1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: Two teas in a pod with Teddy Meloncamps and Tambrad Edge. Hi, guys, 2 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: welcome to this week's to Cheese in a pod with myself, 3 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: Teddy Meloncamp and Tambra Jedge. Hey, Teddy, Hey, I'm so 4 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: excited that we'll bring on Dolores Catania today. I know Jersey, 5 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: I love Dolores. We love Dolores. We also love Frank. 6 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: We have so many questions for her. She's been on 7 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: for seven seasons. But actually right now she's texting me 8 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: please send me the link. So, hey, guys, don't mind me. 9 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: My makeup girl's daughter got sick, so I'm running behind 10 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: all day and I did not get to look pretty 11 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: for you. But I'm going to and on some glasses 12 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: and I just got out of a meeting. I'm in 13 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: a conference room, but you. I'm so excited to speak 14 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: to the two of you that I didn't want to 15 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: say no, no. We are so grateful and you look 16 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: beautiful no matter what. Yes, We're just so happy to 17 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: have you here. Hi, Tamna, Hi to Laura's I'm so excited. 18 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: I love you. Me and my girlfriends, I love you. 19 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: We talked about you all. Thank you. This season. This 20 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: season has been we I mean we do we do 21 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: a thing on two Cheese in a pod where we 22 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: just kind of opened up the questions to anybody on Instagram. 23 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: You saw that I did that yesterday. So we kind 24 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: of go through and we just get through it all. 25 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: But they everybody always asked, they want to start from 26 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: the beginning, how did you get cast on Jersey? Um, 27 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: so tamer you were on a long time ago too, 28 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: when you know how it was in the beginning. Uh, 29 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: they went around to all the high end hair salons 30 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: in the country when you know, and and Thursday nights 31 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: was girls night out and the girls were Caroline Manzo, Dina, 32 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: her sister Dina, Teresa, Jacqueline. You know, we were all 33 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: friends and we go out on Thursday night. We thought 34 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: we were sex in the city. We were like Jim, 35 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: choose and try to dress up and just come home 36 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: empty handled all the time. And so when they went 37 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: all around, Um, they went to this hair son, They're like, oh, 38 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: do you know a group of women and you know, Thursday, 39 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: you're getting your hair done to go out or whatever. 40 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: We're getting ready, And that's how it started. And then 41 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: they interviewed us and it was back when the Sopranos 42 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: were a big deal. So people were intrigued by New 43 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: Jersey and the way we spoke and the way we acted. However, 44 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: we didn't know the rest of the country was nothing 45 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: like that. None of us had traveled and gone to 46 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: college or abroad or you know, maybe Italy to see 47 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: the rest of the family for the summery him now 48 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: and then, but nobody left the block. Yeah, but I 49 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: think that's what makes it good. Yeah, so back then 50 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: that's what it was. And uh so I decided not 51 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: to do it because things got a little weird for me. 52 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: I had not a great feeling back then about and 53 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: my kids were little. So Danielle Stomp took my place 54 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: hold on to one season. Were supposed to do it, 55 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: and then you did season one and I not for me, 56 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: But well, what made you change your mind? I didn't 57 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: like something the producer said, and back then I had like, 58 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: you know, I was like this, like very like um 59 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: not worldly green out of a divorce, you know, never 60 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: went away to college, never went on a vacation like 61 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 1: and they said something I didn't say to my friends. 62 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: They twisted my words a little, because back then that's 63 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: how they produced. Nobody knew their tricks yet, right, nobody 64 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: knew their tricks yet. And I was very offended that 65 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: my friends questioned that I had said that, and I said, 66 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: guess what, I'm not coming back big you know, big 67 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: dick attitude, like I don't want to. Yeah. I had 68 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: been big dick attitude too when I got cast it. 69 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: But did you have any hesitation the second time around? 70 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: You know that the second time Oh, I was ready. 71 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: So a few years later and then you know, you 72 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: got used to how they did it, and you got 73 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: used to what it wise, and um, years later, I 74 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: had a lot to um, I had a lot more 75 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: to offer. I think timing is everything. So I've gone 76 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: through some things in between. You know, Frank had lost 77 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: a lot of money in a bad investment and I 78 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: had to go back. I was working like three or 79 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: four jobs, and I uh got engaged for a short 80 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: time during that time, and my kids got a little older, 81 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: and I got a little smarter and a little wiser 82 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: and a little and I was ready to go back 83 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: on and I had to go through the whole process again. 84 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: I know I'm personally obsessed being a divorce woman, with 85 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: your relationship with your ex husband, Frank. I mean, I 86 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: love it, I love it, I love it, I love it. 87 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: And I think I love him because my dad's name 88 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: is Frank too, so I feel like I extra love him. 89 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: But he is no way you guys can get back together. 90 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: I just love you guys together. No, we'll such good friends. 91 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: And you know that's been a long time now. So 92 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: Frank and I have been divorced for like twenty three years. 93 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: And I think the reason you guys can still you 94 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: can be friends the way that you are because there's 95 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: not that chance in your mind that we're going to 96 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: get back together. Oh yeah, all emotions are out of it. Exactly, Teddy, exactly. 97 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: So you know through the years, of course, I've dated, right, 98 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: I've had five years at a time relationships here there. 99 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: And I can tell you that if somebody is jealous 100 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: or emotional, or if somebody in the relationship the next 101 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: wife for the next husband is jealous or gets angry 102 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: and has a problem with the person that they're they're 103 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: dating for no reason, like let's say there's no it's 104 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: because they still want to be with that person. That's 105 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: how I feel. I'm sorry, that's how I feel because 106 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: I could speak from experience. I'm happy for Frank. When 107 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: I was done, I was done. Listen, Tamra, when I'm done. Um, 108 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: But that's how I am. But I think you're right. 109 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: I feel like there's always one one person in the 110 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: relationship that has their ass all been because of what 111 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: went down, and they can't make nice. And that's also 112 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: another thing. There's also there's actually something else too. There's 113 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: letting go of anger and resentment, letting it go. It's 114 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: it's such an anchor. That's another reason. Okay, let's take out. 115 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: Maybe the person doesn't want to be with that their 116 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: ex for some reason, but they want to not see 117 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: them happy. You know when you could take that. Neither 118 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: one of us have ever had that with each other. 119 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: Never it Listen, was it easy? We've had We had 120 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: fist fights. I beat his girlfriend up. There was disgusting 121 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: things that happened. Teddy discussed thing I've done. No one, 122 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: no one. It took you a long time to get 123 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: to where you are today with him, So it took me. 124 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: I never Here's the thing, in spite of what happened, 125 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: I didn't want to have what was left room, so 126 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: I make like faked it till I made it right 127 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: with me and Frank So I was as nice when, 128 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: even if I didn't want to be. I had gone 129 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: to a child therapist with my kids back when I 130 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: didn't tell anybody I was going. You didn't have to understand. 131 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,119 Speaker 1: I come from a strict Italian, I rich neighborhood. Nobody 132 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: was ever divorced, and we only knew from marriage and 133 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: close families, and things happened in families, but you didn't 134 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: talk about it, and no one got divorced. That was it. 135 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: So now who am I going to call my best friend, 136 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: one of my sisters, my mother. No one knows how 137 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: to get So I went to a therapist, right, a 138 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: child therapist, because I had one high school. If you 139 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: had a fight, yet to go right. So that's the 140 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: only name I knew in the business. I go Throre 141 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: and it was the right person to go to because 142 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: I brought my kids. Frankie was a week old, Gabby 143 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: was three years old. And I'm shuffling through with a 144 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: broken heart. And I said, and I'm sitting seeing while 145 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: these kids sit in her office, and one was crying, 146 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: punching the wall. His mother was heartsick, heart sick, and 147 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: I said, I walked in around them and I sat 148 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: down and said, how do I not have my kids 149 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: so hurt? Because don't fight in front of them from 150 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: that thing on Tamera. I shit, I didn't say we're 151 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: I let it go. It ruins family. I mean, I'm 152 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: firsthand no, like my ex would say horrible things about 153 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: me to my kids and try to conquer and the 154 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: end of the day, like I'm picking up the pieces 155 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: for my children right now at their older age because 156 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: of what their father put them through. It's a tail 157 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: as old as time, you know, and it does take two. 158 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: So I do have a lot of respect for Frank 159 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: in that way. I always say, like, love your children 160 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: more than you hate your ex husband. Great. Great. I 161 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: have a question when it comes to the way and 162 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: I know there was like Infidel, we've seen all that 163 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: on the show, But when when you see it playing 164 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: out for other people on the show and in real time, 165 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: does it ever bring back those memories? Are that pain? 166 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: Are you able to still keep moving on? How do 167 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: you do that? It doesn't bring back pain is because 168 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: I'm over right, you know, it's a it's a dead 169 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,599 Speaker 1: part of my life. But what it does do is 170 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: say I like, I feel like I can help you 171 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: with this. I have the experience of this. I can 172 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: I've spoken to a lot of people through it and 173 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: it's never an instigate. Oh hate them, Oh screw him? 174 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: Or oh it? Is he sorry? Is he sorry? Or 175 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: is she sorry? Um? Is he a good person? Is 176 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: he a good father? Is he does? Like? Can you 177 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: get past this? And it's gonna be hard, and it's 178 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: going to be more work on your part, right because 179 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna have emotions. If so Long is gonna play, 180 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: You're gonna look at them the wrong way one day 181 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: and you're gonna want to fight with them and bring 182 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: it up. But you have to understand might I always say, 183 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: I remember those feelings, and you have to just move 184 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: past it, don't act on it. Take a ride, go 185 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: say a prayer, go light a candle in church. Whatever. 186 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: Now that makes sense? And what do you think it 187 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: is about Jersey that makes all the husband or ex 188 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: husbands so close, Like it's the only show you really 189 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: see this on. I love that, I know, you know what. 190 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: I do love it. I love their camaraderie. It's Jersey 191 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: for you, so like you know, it's like everybody's family. 192 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: You don't have friends here, you have family. That's what 193 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: I always say, and I think that's what makes the 194 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: show so successful, is that you guys can't or you 195 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: can't fight, but when you come back to it's almost 196 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 1: like everybody's family. You come back together and it's like 197 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: you talk it out. You didn't over with. Yeah, but 198 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: Frank always comes out as the voice of reason. He does. 199 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: Can you imagine this? He's really evolved, He's evolved. You know, 200 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: he's a big mush teddy. Frank's feeling to get her 201 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: very easily on the Monica. So you guys have had 202 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 1: pretty much the same group on Jersey for four years. 203 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: Do you think it could? I mean, Tiki Barber's wife 204 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: came in this year. We heard that she was originally 205 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: a housewife, but then it got switched. Do you think 206 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: there's going to be even more of a shake up 207 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: for next year? They just leave good where it is, 208 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: You know as well as I do. We're the last 209 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: to know, always, always, so all is the last to note. 210 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: They talk about it, you know, they they don't. There's 211 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:10,119 Speaker 1: nobody solid, there's really it's hard to cast. In every franchise, 212 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: it's so hard to cast. But with Jersey. I feel 213 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: like they got it down. They don't need to mess 214 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 1: with it, just leave it the way it is. I 215 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: don't want I don't want to see Tiki Barber's wife. 216 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: I want to see the Core girls there. That's what 217 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: I want to see the girls. And you need it 218 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: because how much can we destroy each other? At some 219 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: point that the destroy is going to break and there's 220 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: no coming back from it. Yeah, but it's got to 221 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: be hard to cast in New Jersey because you've gotta 222 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: have a tough girl. And I want to see a 223 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: family member. I want to see your sister, your bro. 224 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: I want to see somebody that it's connected. I like 225 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: the family Camaradite. But the difference is is that when 226 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: it comes to the original girls. I remember when Jen 227 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: and Jackie first came on. I was not fans of 228 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: them because I but then I started to give them 229 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: a chance because you guys became even though y'all thought 230 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: you felt a real connection between you guys, right, So 231 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: so people grow on you, Tam, people grow on you. 232 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: You know. I'd like to see Caroline come back on, 233 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: But that was my next question, who do you think 234 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: should come back on Caroline? Caroline would be great. She 235 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: would be great and and like Teresa says, bring her back. 236 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: How do you juggle the friendship between the two of them? 237 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: Like between being friends with both of them. I treat 238 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: them as I would treat my sister's fighting. I don't 239 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: take a side. I'm a sounding board. I understand where 240 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: they're both coming from. Um, you know, That's how I've 241 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 1: always handled things. I seem to handle it pretty well. 242 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: And if somebody is really a friend, they don't make 243 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: you choose. And I don't like to be told what 244 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: to do anyway, period, So I'm not I'm there's no 245 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: lack of loyalty in my camp for being a friend 246 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: with both p I can support the friend. I don't 247 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: have to support the beef. And that's how I feel 248 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: about it. From watching you, what I like is that 249 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: you can tell that you're being a loyal friend, but 250 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: you also have your own self confidence and what you 251 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: feel and you can stand on that. And so I 252 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: as as a viewer, I'm like, Okay, I see this. 253 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: I can see her side, even if I don't always 254 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: agree with everything that you may have said. I can 255 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: go oh, I feel where her heart is coming from. Yeah, 256 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: and she calls people out like even if you know, 257 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: like Teresa is your friend, but if she's doing something 258 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna I wouldn't have done it, you know, like 259 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: I said, that's not what I wouldn't have done it. 260 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: But now you did it, and let's get past it. 261 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: You are the voice of reason. Are you going to be? Uh? 262 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: Are you bridesmaid? This is it's everywhere you're No? No, 263 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: oh my god, no, she has you know. I mean, 264 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: at my age, I do think I want to be 265 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: a brideswaide standing up there, I am plower girl. That's 266 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: what you want to be a brides maid? Never bride 267 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: this one here? Hi, okay, all right, wow, okay, So 268 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: how do you feel like Teresa's handling the Louie drama. 269 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: I think that Theresa was very emotional understandably, so totally. 270 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: It's just listen, Tamma. You know, you know Teddy, you 271 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: guys know the people that come on for you, you 272 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: feel very guilty when they get whether you like them 273 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: or not, whether you love them or not. And it's 274 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: harder when you love them so much, is you know, 275 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: it's hard there aren't there for you, and then somebody 276 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: says something about them like you want to die, like 277 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: you're like, oh God, like you know what am I doing? 278 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: Why did this have to happen? And that's when you 279 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: start to hate your job, you know? Will you get defensive? 280 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: I've had years where Cassip come after my husband and 281 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: you you know my husband doesn't want to get involving 282 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: two ships, right, so you know you want to get 283 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: involved in that. And she doesn't want Louie to have 284 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: to deal with that stuff, so she's But I don't 285 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: hard defense mode though. If somebody came after Eddie, it's 286 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: not because they saw something on the internet. I think 287 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: it's hard when you enter a show and you already 288 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: know that something's gonna surface. Yeah, will you start to 289 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: show you also, yeah, you don't always know, right, So 290 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: this happens to be what's going on here? Is it 291 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: happens to be a very um, you know, an X 292 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: that's very scorned X, very angry girl and I don't 293 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: really know, you know whatever. But I don't who knew 294 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: that this? I think this will started when he started 295 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: dating Theresa, right, so I didn't I don't know that 296 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: he knew that something would be like this craziness. Oh 297 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: so this all leaked after she wasn't already coming for 298 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: him before the show started airing. No not to not 299 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: to my knowledge, Tenny, I honestly never thought the video 300 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: of Louis was bad. I certainly didn't. I didn't. I thought, 301 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: you know, I come from a background, like I like 302 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: self help and retreats and things like that. I just 303 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: felt like he was trying to better himself, you know. 304 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: I I getted around and one of the things I'm like, oh, 305 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: you know, it looked like a bunch of jerkos. But 306 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: that's like just my lingo. I know, I just want 307 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: to see them come to one of my parties. I 308 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: would invite every one of those Gold guys, and I 309 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: want them to talk to my ex boyfriends and terrib 310 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: lifriend tell her how do you feel like? I was 311 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: like making fun of them a little bit, but I 312 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: thought they were great. I mean, video wasn't the problem, guys. 313 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: It was how for me I wasn't. I was like 314 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: fine with the video, but it was how he responded 315 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: to brought up. Then I was like, why is he 316 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: so ashamed of the video? Now it's making me wonder. 317 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: Now I'm wanting to watch the full length video, Like 318 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: before you I feel like, listen, he was just walking 319 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: on the scene. This happens the day he's supposed to 320 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: like film, and he was like it was like, Harden, 321 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: you know, like we don't always say things right on camera, 322 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: right like in the heat of the moment. Like I 323 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: feel like he could explain it better without being so 324 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: nervous and having everybody and cameras in his face, and like, 325 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: this is a whole big thing going on, so no 326 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: know that that came out of nowhere and he needs 327 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: he can explain it. I think that's how I always felt. Well, 328 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm I'm rooting for them, I had said on a 329 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: podcast earlier when he was doing all these affirmations and 330 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: all these cards and the scroll and all that stuff. 331 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: And I had said on a previous podcast, I said, 332 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: he kind of gives me Brooke butts from Vicky. And 333 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: I think it pissed Theresa off because she unfollowed me 334 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: and she must be mad. Then she's mad, but just 335 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: tell her, but I am actually rooting for them. I 336 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: like them together. I didn't mean it in a bad way. 337 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: Somebody probably she doesn't probably know who Broke is, and 338 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: somebody probably told her like she she gets a lot 339 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: of like, oh, go look at this clip or like 340 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: and she's only seeing what somebody said. Yeah, well, I 341 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: wasn't saying anything bad. I was just saying because he 342 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: did a lot of affirmations which actually are really nice, 343 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: and I think she took. I mean, I think guys 344 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: can they're either going to be super vocal or they're 345 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: gonna have to feel like they need to prep their 346 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: stuff when they come on because if they're not comfortable 347 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: in front of the camera yet or whatever behind the camp. 348 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: You know, that's a good advice for someone like like 349 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: just no, but he didn't know, Like this was nobody 350 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: knew this stuff was Like how did you know this 351 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: person was going to do this? You know what I mean, 352 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: Like I don't expect it. Nobody does, especially your first 353 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: time on reality TV. You're like, what the ship is 354 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: going on here? Now? Speaking of that, what about Bill? 355 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: Like Bill kind of feels like I'm trying to fill 356 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: him out. It was really good to see him last night, 357 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: like picking March seen You're up and dancing like it 358 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: showed like he really had a heart. Like I'm trying 359 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: to figure Yeah, so I'm trying to figure out because 360 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: he's you know, they're going for him and stuff. Is 361 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: he uncomfortable talking about that situation or is he just heartless? 362 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: He's not heartless, as he's a lovely man. I worked 363 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: with him. He was nothing but a gentleman. Where I 364 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: worked with him, he was so kind to his patience. 365 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: You know, most would do their surgeries and run out 366 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: of there. You know, I'm a surgical assystem by trade. 367 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:09,479 Speaker 1: So yeah, so so um yeah, So when Frank had 368 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: everything happened with Frank, I had to scramble and get 369 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,719 Speaker 1: a small technical degree because I had never gone to school, 370 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: only finding out then that I'm dyslexic and I have 371 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: all these learning disorders. Right, So I get this small 372 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: technical degree and I go to work and I become 373 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: a surgical as because I love classic surgery. I used 374 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: to watch House. That was my big thing. I didn't 375 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: know what to do with myself. And UM, I'm like, oh, well, 376 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: I'll be a surgical as system. Well it was really 377 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 1: harder than I thought. Anyway, I make it and I 378 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: start working with Bill Laden. He happens to be moonlighting 379 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: at the surgery center. How many years ago? Um, this 380 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: was like seven to ten years ago when this had happened. 381 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: Did you know? I know now I have to ask 382 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: you to tell no one, No, it didn't. It was 383 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: separate aside. Everyone loved. He is a good person. I 384 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: think that it was mistake and it was poor judgment. 385 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: I think it shouldn't define who he is because I 386 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: know him as nothing but a gentleman, always speaking lovely 387 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: about his wife and children, always treated everybody with respect, 388 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: and treated everybody in the surgery center like an equal 389 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: instead of like he was above them. I like to 390 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 1: hear that too. I hope that this is healing for 391 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: them instead of you know, like watching it back and 392 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: then working through it. I hope that that they can 393 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: let go and be able to work it out for 394 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: their family, because you could see during those conversations with 395 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: their with their daughter that it's it's hard and he's 396 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: a trooper. He is a trooper for even entertaining this 397 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: conversation on a national television show because most guys and 398 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: he didn't have to do it. He didn't have to 399 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: do the show period. No, he got money, he doesn't 400 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: care like he's yeah and uh, speaking of love life, 401 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: So what's going on with the new boyfeelies? Nice hollies? 402 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,239 Speaker 1: Nice plies that from Dublin, Ireland. He's only been here 403 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: about twenty years, so it's very different than what I'm 404 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: used to. Like, he's not a Jersey guy, yet we 405 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: have a lot of similarities, like, you know, it's like 406 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: a family. I miss that old school mentality. Although it's 407 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: not easy, you know, it's not easy. But yeah, so 408 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: it's been fun. It's been fun. I had met him 409 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: as I broke up with David. I wasn't like, really 410 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: looking to get involved with somebody so soon, but David 411 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: and I had been kind of like off for a bit. 412 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: So he's fun, you know, Paul's fun. I learned how 413 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: to drink. I've never been drugged before. Like, so now 414 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: I drink like gentleman Jack, what a big guy? What 415 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: So we're gonna see are are you drinking at the reunion? No, 416 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: no one did. No what heard reunion was crazy. I know, 417 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: you can't tell us one thing about it, but I 418 00:21:51,240 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: heard it was crazy. So reunion was like, um, the 419 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: worst ever ever done. That's my seven and it was 420 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: absolutely draining. It's gonna Yeah, it was a long time 421 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: and a lot of fighting and I'm not you know, 422 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: getting along with someone right now. Out of nowhere. I 423 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: don't even know who that is. Um, it's not important. 424 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: Do you think that all relationships within, even though there's fights, 425 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: do you think that all of them can be mended? 426 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: I do? Oh good, Okay, I do. Yeah. And did 427 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: anyone cry because Jerseys they're not been criers in Jersey? 428 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: No one cried. Oh see, that's good that you're good. 429 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: Jersey is not big criers like they. There's no room 430 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: to cry here. That is. I could cry just thinking 431 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: about not crying. Teddy teddy. Um, that's funny. Jackie a 432 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: little bit pride, I think not even No, Jackie didn't 433 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: really know there was Jackie. I'm very proud of Jackie 434 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: this season. You see, you never know what somebody's going through, 435 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,239 Speaker 1: you know. No, I've actually reached out to her and 436 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: told her, like, I'm so proud of her. She needs 437 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: to hear it. So that's really nice. Yeah, yeah, because 438 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: I can. I can kind of see her struggles. And 439 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you know when certain Housewives brings stuff up 440 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: just for attention our storyline, but you know, this is 441 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: like true ship that's going on in her life, and 442 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: this is a very visceral, very issue with her and 443 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: and and it's something she's been battling for so long, 444 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: and and now and she she's scared. But I mean, 445 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: now she feels like she's accountable to people. She's the world. 446 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: Accountability is the thing that honestly holds you, you know, 447 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it holds you. Accountability is the 448 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: one I mean. I started via Instagram. I said, hold 449 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: me account I'm changing my life today. And that's the 450 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: only thing that And this was you know, way before Housewives, 451 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: but this was the only thing that worked, because when 452 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: you're not being held accountable, you're only accountable to yourself, 453 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: and then you lie to yourself. So I mean, but 454 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 1: on a lighter note, we do have to ask, in 455 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: a perfect world, do you think that Gia and little 456 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: Frank should end up together? Um? I mean of course 457 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: I would love for I love like the you know, 458 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: the she's called me the other day and we spoke 459 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: on the phone. Actually I love her. What will they 460 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 1: wind up together? You just I don't know what I'd 461 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: be happy sure, of course. I mean I know how 462 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: she was raised, I know what kind of girl she is. 463 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: I know she's got those old school Italian ways, like 464 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: for the prom she made sure. My mother came in 465 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: and sat down and made sure my mother had water 466 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: and something. I mean, it's her prom and this is 467 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: what she's doing with my mother. I mean, you know 468 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: this is the thing. But do you ever talk to 469 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: her dad? I don't. I mean I would take Instagram 470 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: like I have, like commented on this stuff or anything. Yeah, 471 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: but no, no to talk on the phone. Now. It 472 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: would be so nice to see him. We don't get 473 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: to see him this season. I would imagine Joe. Yeah, 474 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: I would love to see him on American soil again. 475 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: We could go, you guys can go over there. It 476 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: was COVID. Yeah, like we listen, it's Jersey. We're not 477 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: flying flying private places, different trips. Whether they know where 478 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: they could get away with it? Right, it sounds like 479 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: a good girl's trip. How's your mom go to the 480 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: Jersey shore? She's good thanks to Tama. Listen. You know 481 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: we didn't grow up um in a house where like 482 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: I see how you are a nice your your your 483 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: Finnish and your diet and Teddy is amazing with her kids, 484 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: and I see them meeting their carrots and all that stuff, 485 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: and I just that your children don't understand how lucky 486 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: they are to have that in their lives because in 487 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: Teddy As you know, like it's so important. It's a lifestyle, right, 488 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: So we we grew up on like either cookies for 489 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: breakfast or nothing, and it was just a different time. 490 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: And I struggle with it now. My kids do not. 491 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: My daughter's a vegan, she's gained some weights bothering her terribly. 492 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: Is it's I don't think that. I think it's her 493 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: workload and first off, and um, you know she's a 494 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: veterinarian now, so she's working like crazy hours. And my 495 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: son is just so strict with his diety. He's been 496 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: his whole life. So they're they're okay. I certainly am not. 497 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: Like I I had McDonald's the other night after watch 498 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: What Happens Live, and I drove four towns to get it. 499 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: MS your favorite fast food of them all, I have, 500 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: not having gone in twenty years. Tamra gets really upset 501 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: when I my love for Taco bell. I can't. I'm 502 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: super strict, so I don't eat fast hammer like I know. 503 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: I don't. And I haven't had soda in twenty years, 504 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: like I won't. I've never my kids have never had soda. 505 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: That's how bad I love it. These are the diet 506 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 1: Dr Pepper here. I have to really I had myself 507 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: an intervention from it. Maybe I was filming something stressful 508 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: if I was like, can I have a diet doctor Pepper? Please? Yeah? 509 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: This hurts my heart, I know. Another another big question 510 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: is did you ever hook up even just a little kiss, 511 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: peck anything? Why is this coming up? Because Margaret is 512 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: an asshole about this? Okay, I yelled at her for this. 513 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: She was kidding around and she said something about and 514 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm just I don't talk about anybody's thing like that. 515 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: And I'm like, Margaret, you and I never had that conversation. 516 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: I'm looking with somebody else or you how to dream 517 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: about it? I never talked about She was like, no, 518 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: you said short guys this or that. I've never been 519 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: a short guy. I don't really, you know, Joe Corder 520 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: is like a little brother to me. So it's so 521 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: disgusting that like people are like stuff. You know, you 522 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: never know what people will stick on, right, So Margaret 523 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: was kind of like kidding about it, and I knew 524 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: right away. I was like, whoa, Margaret, that's not like, 525 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: don't even care round about that? And it's probably the 526 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: most mad I ever got it her. Well, yeah, because 527 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: you know how how she he is literally like a 528 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: little brother to me. I've known him since he's a 529 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: little kid, you know, Teresa and I have been for instance, 530 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: her sixteen Joe. Joe and my sister used to work 531 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: at the Rascal House together flipping hampers. I mean like, 532 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: oh my god, he's a little boy. He's not a 533 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: little boys and man, he is to me my like 534 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: a little brother. So no, So that is that a 535 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: hard no? Hard no, it's I'm pretty sure she's like, 536 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: that's a hard no. I think she's also made a 537 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: clear don't you need not apply if you're not all wow? 538 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: I mean I never thought about it, really, just never 539 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: was in line from I'm not I'm not. Yeah, I'm 540 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: more unto short guys, I guess, I mean not sure. 541 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: But I don't know if I've ever had a tall, 542 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: like a super tall boyfriend. I'm only five three, so 543 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: me too, timer, But I can tell you when a 544 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: man is confident and he's strong and he's smart, and 545 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: he's everything he could and he stands tall. So that's 546 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: how I feel about that. Yeah, I mean, or there's 547 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,959 Speaker 1: or there's my husband. This is the best story. So 548 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: my husband's like, yeah, I asked him what I said, 549 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: how taller? You always would say like whatever, it was 550 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: five ten five ten. And then the first time I 551 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: brought him home to meet my dad, and at that point, 552 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: my dad was married to this, you know, Glamazon supermodel 553 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: who was obviously taller than five ten um, and they 554 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: asked him how tall he was. You've never seen somebody 555 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: change their tune fast in his life. He's like five 556 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: five eight and a half five never. I'm not quite 557 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: sure that what happened to that. It's like when I 558 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: say on my license that I'm five five sure. How 559 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: do you think Teddy and I would hold up if 560 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: we were filming? Oh gosh, I think you guys would 561 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: hold up fine until it got super violent. Oh I 562 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: can handle violence. I don't know that I can handle violence. 563 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: I think I honestly think I would cry No if 564 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: you're not you you know, if you're not used to 565 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: it gets really he did in that moment. People that 566 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: walk on have walked on and said I can handle this. 567 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: They don't. I would words. I would love the chance, 568 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: I would. I would love to watch it. Girls, trip. Yeah, 569 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: oh would you join? Of course who would say no that? 570 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, you know Dolaura's let's go on girls trip together? 571 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: There you okay, but Tam already did it. But nope, 572 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: me from Jersey was on that season. No, I think 573 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: they were filming. Ah. No. I grew up in a tough, 574 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: tough family. Like for me, like a compliment would be like, hey, 575 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: you're asked. Isn't looked up big today? Like that's the 576 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: kind of family I grew up in. So so I 577 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: got thick skin. So I don't people always think that 578 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: I'm from New York because I just mainly don't know. 579 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: I could see that, I could definitely see that. But 580 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: like I said, it's like, have I ever gotten nervous 581 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: in that moment? No, I have never gotten nervous. Have 582 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: I gotten stressed over behind the scenes stuff that they 583 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: carry over, the carry over of the emotions and and yeah, 584 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: then I get like that that gets to be a 585 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: lot for me. And then we have one more kind 586 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: of downer question and then we'll we'll we'll end on high. 587 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: But it's speculated that you were not at Teresa's engagement 588 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: party because there's only pictures of Melissa and Jen would 589 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: like to confirm or deny. Yeah, No, I wasn't. I 590 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: wasn't invited, not for any reason. Um, but they said 591 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: that they only kind of invited people that they went 592 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: out together as couples. There may be another reason behind it. However, 593 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,479 Speaker 1: what I can tell you is it was not because 594 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: of Teresa and I weren't getting along or anything. It 595 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: was Louie really didn't know me as a couple because 596 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: I didn't mingle with them as a boyfriend girlfriend. You know, 597 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: I had not gotten to known Louis yet, and I 598 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: think Louis wanted just people, and it was intimate and 599 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: just people. They did, like I said, things together as couples, 600 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: which I had never done because I was just getting 601 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: to know my boyfriend. And just you don't want Teddy. 602 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: This is how I feel about that. I just say, Therese, 603 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: I'm still happy for you, and um, it's not about me, 604 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: and it's not about that I had answered to that, 605 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: and it's not about the people that called me and 606 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: said you should have been invited, and and it's not 607 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: about any of that. It's about you're happy. This guy 608 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: is good to you and your kids. Is really that's 609 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: all I care about me, and I mean that's what 610 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: I was actually going to end with talking about what 611 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: you said right there shows the kind of character that 612 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: you have. Um, I have to say, you were the 613 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: first non Beverly Hills housewife that reached out to me 614 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: after I got the boot, and we had like a 615 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: thirty minute conversation. I had never felt like more at 616 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: ease and felt like like it just you. We leave 617 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: so many of like the like the self torture I 618 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: was giving to myself, you know, whenever you feel any 619 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: form of rejection and all of that and so kind 620 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: and amazing, and I just I wanted to publicly say 621 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: thank you so much for doing that. I'm glad you No, 622 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: I mean and I and I I just I respect 623 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: you so much for that and I appreciate it. And 624 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: you've been doing this a long time and it was 625 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: so kind. And the fact that you texted back in 626 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: two minutes, you know, yesterday when I asked you to 627 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: come on the bottom like this is such a good person. 628 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: I mean, really, we were was excited to hear from you. 629 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: I was very excited. And I actually have to be 630 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: an event for St. Joe's Hospital. There's like six people 631 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: coming in. You know what, Teddy, this will be isn't 632 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 1: as much as I'm looking forward to seeing everybody. This 633 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: is the highlight of my day because I don't always 634 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: get to do like this is gonna be fun. But 635 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: I'm tired. You know this event I'm going. I'm still 636 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: not over the reunion and then the watch What Happens 637 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: Live and then I got I got a stomach flue, 638 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know what wasn't wasn't was McDonald's. 639 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: It was don't blame McDonald's. I don't blame McDonald Damn rock. 640 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: Can you imagine you're shine? Your body would reject it. 641 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: It would be instantly, I know. But um anyway, but 642 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm just so glad that you asked me. So thank you, 643 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, and come visit us soon. Yes, 644 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: I will you so much. I will love you guys, 645 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: see you soon. Thank you. Fie. She's so lovely, so nice, 646 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: well I easy to talk too, and so open. She 647 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 1: really opened up there, Yeah she did. And I love 648 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: that she calls us by her names all the time. 649 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,959 Speaker 1: You know, Teddy, you know Tim like she I don't 650 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: know everything about her? Is this a class act? I 651 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: love her. We had fun um. All right, Well, that's 652 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: all we got for today, that's all we got, Okay, Teddy, 653 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: until next time, see you soon, Bye bye.