1 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: As a guide and hunter. I've spent thousands of days 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics. They'll get you closer 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren. 5 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: This is cutting the distance. Now. Picture this. You're in 6 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 1: the elk woods and you've got a bull that's bugling 7 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: back at you. He's coming in and you know he's 8 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: just right there, but he's held up just on the 9 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: other side of some thick timber. You need him to 10 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: move a little bit closer to get a shot. You 11 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: can't even see him yet. You're playing the back and 12 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: fourth game. Now, how do you make that bowl fatally 13 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: commit to come right into your lap. The thing is 14 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: is there are calls that are not cow calls and 15 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: not bowl calls. I'm gonna call these nonverbal elk calls. 16 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: These are sounds that you can make that will trick 17 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: that bowl into coming that extra distance the times that 18 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: you need him to move and he won't. Things like 19 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: raking a tree, making heavy breathing noises, even urinating sounds 20 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: on the ground. These calls will bring that bowl to 21 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: where you want him when he wants to hold up. 22 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: It's September nineteen, a few years back. Now, I remember 23 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: the day September nineteen, not because of this particular September nineteen, 24 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: yet over the years, that just seems to be the 25 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: day that the rut really peaks for me, calling for 26 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: friends or clients, or even on my own hunts. I 27 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: just feel like that's a great day that the rut 28 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: really kicks off. Now, I started the morning I was 29 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: actually guiding this particular morning. We're at the top of 30 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: a mountain in southwestern Montana. It's pretty steep terrain and 31 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: heavily timbered. I like that area when the rut kicks off, 32 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: because if the bulls are going to be vocal, that's 33 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: when they're the weakest in this particular environment. Other times 34 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: a year, you can never even find them in this place. 35 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: So before the sun even comes up, I'm throwing out 36 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: a few locator bugles, some long drawn out bugles, into 37 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: these canyons where I can get this echo sound because 38 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: I know that I'll travel through that timber. Sure enough, 39 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: I hear a bugle down below me. Okay, that's our bowl. 40 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: I wait a little bit. I think we gotta get 41 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: in on this bowl. Before the sun even gets up. 42 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: I want to be in position early because they tend 43 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: to be shutting up. It's been hot. I did not 44 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: want this bull to shut up on us and then 45 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: just lose him like we did the day before. I bugle. 46 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: He bugles back. We dropped down the mountain. Start moving 47 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: towards that sound a bugle again. He bugles back. It's escalating. 48 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: I give him a mean bugle. He gives me a 49 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: mean bugle back, chuckling. We move in. We dropped down 50 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: and now he's above us, so we're moving up toward him. 51 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: We get closer. I'm throwing cow calls, trying to draw 52 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: this bull in. I can't tell if this bull is 53 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: by himself or if he has a whole herd of cows. 54 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: I don't know the play on this bull yet, because 55 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: it's so thick, I can't see anything. I just hear 56 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: that he's responding as I'm responding. We get within I 57 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: would say probably what sounds like two yards. He bugles. 58 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: I cut his bugle off with my bugle. He's pissed. 59 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: It keeps going back and forth, and the bull just 60 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: seems to be holding up. We move in closer, now 61 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: to what I would consider probably fifty yards from this 62 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: bugle noise. But what I don't want to do is 63 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to move in closer and potentially bump 64 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: the cows that are with him. So if I knew 65 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: it was just a lone bull, yeah, we'd move in 66 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: as close as we could. But I felt like in 67 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: this timber, the odds are something's gonna see us before 68 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: we see them, and below the whole scenario. So I 69 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: really want to call this bull to us. Now he 70 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: starts to come, and it's we're kind of caught in 71 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: this patch of really thick timber, some small conifers. Not ideal. 72 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: But I also don't want to bust through this and 73 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: blow out the elk. So I thought I gotta do 74 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: my best to call this bull to us. I dropped back, 75 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: hoping that maybe that will draw the bull closer in 76 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: to the hunter that I have set up. I'm bugling, 77 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: cow calling. Then I hear that bull start braking a 78 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: tree this is his turf. I break off a branch 79 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: and start thrashing the tree behind me, and it works. 80 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: It pulls the bull in probably ten yards closer. He 81 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: bugles again. I bugle, and he just seems they not 82 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: want to come that extra distant to where I have 83 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: the guy set up. I'm like, man, what do I 84 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: do to pull this bull in? I move up just 85 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: behind the hunter and I'm thinking, I'm like, I've tried 86 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: everything he's hold up yet it's thick, and I don't 87 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: think that we could stalk in and get a shot 88 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: because now he's paying attention. I'm racking my brain what 89 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: to do. I happen to have my nalgene bottle pretty 90 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: handy on my pack. I grabbed the bottle out, twist 91 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: the top off, hold it pretty high above my head, 92 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: and start slowly pouring it on the ground and you 93 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: could hear it splashing. Then I hear the bull make 94 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: a few breathing noises. I breathe back as I'm pouring 95 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: this water out. The bull pops through eight yards away 96 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: and the hunter shoots him, perfect shot. The bull runs 97 00:05:50,839 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: over maybe ten yards and it's done. So what is 98 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: it about these non verbal sounds that get an elk 99 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: to commit to come in that extra distance when just 100 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: bugles and cow calls alone don't seem to be working. 101 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: Because when you're calling elk, you have to create an 102 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: illusion that you are an elk. I think a lot 103 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: of people make a big mistake by when they're calling, 104 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: they're quiet. They're quiet back here, and the only sounds 105 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: they're making are coming from the calls. But that's not 106 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: what it sounds like. When you get into a herd 107 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: of elk, there's a lot going on. There's stick snapping, 108 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: there's elk raking. There's a lot of sounds and noises 109 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: that not only bode confidence that this is actually another elk, 110 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: but there's sounds and noises that they used throughout the 111 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: running process that do a number of things that incite 112 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: other elk to have to come check it out. And 113 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: that includes marking their territory, releasing pheromones, as well as 114 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: talking in a way that isn't bugling or mewing to 115 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: each other. That means certain things, especially during the rut, 116 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: that means things like this cow's hot or I'm ready 117 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: to breed, And those are the kind of noises that 118 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: other bulls cannot resist because that's when the action is 119 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: going down. A big bull does not want to miss 120 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: out on breeding account. He doesn't also not want another 121 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: bull to be into his turf. He wants to think 122 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: that this is his zone, These are his cows. Everything 123 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: is owned by him, and all intruders should be beat up. 124 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: That's what you want, because that's what's gonna draw that 125 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: bull in that extra distance. If you're bow hunting and 126 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: some thicker stuff, you might need to get that bull 127 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: to come within ten yards of your shooter just to 128 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: even be able to see it. And that's a lot 129 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,559 Speaker 1: of times the difference between being successful or just getting 130 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: a bull to hold up twenty cards away. These other sounds, 131 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: a lot of times incite something in a bull's brain 132 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: that makes them say, I need to get over there. 133 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: I need to fight. This needs to be a confrontation, 134 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: not just a screaming match. So what I want to 135 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: do is just talk about the different sounds when and 136 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: how to use them. I think the first sound that 137 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: I have to talk about, because it's one that I 138 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: use nearly every time I'm interacting with the bull, is raking. Now, 139 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: raking is well, white tails do it, mule, deer do it. 140 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: All dear species do some form of raking, but elk 141 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: in particular. When you're calling back and forth, they'll rake 142 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: their territory marking. What it does is releases their scent 143 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 1: onto a tree, but also creates a visual marking and 144 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: it's a display of dominance. So a lot of times 145 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: you'll be calling to a bull, and maybe you might 146 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: be a long ways away. You might not even notice 147 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: that that bull's raking in between calling back and forth 148 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: to you. So the way a bull rakes is it's 149 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: pretty loud and it's pretty vicious. He tries to kill 150 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: that tree, and I do the same. Then after I rake, 151 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: I let out a bugle, because I've seen elk do 152 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: that in the wild more often than not, So it 153 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: works like this most of the time. I start the 154 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: raking sequence when I get in and the bulls already 155 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: fired up. When he's fired up, that's when he wants 156 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: to show his dominance. So I pretend like I'm showing 157 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: my dominance here as well. I'm saying, no, this is 158 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: my area and not your area. I'll generally take a 159 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: big stick and I try to find a tree that's live, 160 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: because the sound is a little bit different if you 161 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 1: find use dead branches. So I get a big stick 162 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: and I just scrape it up and down, thrashing this tree. 163 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: Just imagine in your head a bull raking a tree, 164 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: and then do the same with a stick. Sometimes I've 165 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: even used my bugle tube for it. It makes not 166 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: the same sound. A big stick is the best. I 167 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: get it up against the base and I rake down. 168 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: You really want to create the illusion by scraping down 169 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: the tree. Scraping up and down if you just hit 170 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: the outside of the branches is not the same. Get 171 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: to the base of the tree scrape because the bull 172 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: gets in there, gets close to the tree, is foreheads 173 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: rubbing up against it. His sense getting on that tree, 174 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: his antlers are tearing it apart. You want to try 175 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: to mimic that sound as best as possible. Now, as 176 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: soon as I'm done raking, I often let out an 177 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: aggressive bugle followed by chuckles. That seems to be what 178 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: I've noticed real elk doing right after they scrape a tree. 179 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: But that sound is something that causes the bull to 180 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: want to come in and investigate, like who's marking my territory? 181 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: Is this a small bull? He wants to see what's 182 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: going on and why this bull is marking up his turf. 183 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: So one side note about raking, it depends on the scenario, 184 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: because you've got to think of it like this. In 185 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: the wild, when a bull is raking, other bulls will 186 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: come and investigate. So you need to decide whether you 187 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: want to be the bull that investigates or you want 188 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: to be the bull that has the other bull come 189 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: investigate you. A lot of times when you rake another 190 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: bowl rake, or if I hear a bull raking after 191 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: he bugles, I'll wait maybe thirty seconds and then start 192 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: raking on my own. Every scenario is different, but when 193 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: a bull is raking, they're often distracted. If you know 194 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: that he might be pulled away from the cows and 195 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: there's not other eyes, that's the moment you want to 196 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: run in because you can probably get a shot or 197 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: close the gap while he's raking. So you have to 198 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: think of raking in two ways. When he's raking, you 199 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: can be the bull that goes to him, or when 200 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: you're raking, you might be in a scenario where you 201 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: can't risk going to him. You need him to come 202 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: to you. A few years ago, my buddy John and 203 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: I were hunting in Nevada. We had a bull raking 204 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: and it was one of those deals where we kind 205 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: of held back and we should have ran in. It 206 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: turns out as a giant bowl and he had just 207 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: come to us, raked up a tree, and he never 208 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: committed the rest of the way. So that's something when 209 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: you get a bull to act really start raking, he 210 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: might just mark that territory say I've done it and 211 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: I'm out of here. So you have to really play 212 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: it situationally, whether you want to be the bull that 213 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: goes to him or he's the bull that comes to you. 214 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: Just because he doesn't come to you doesn't mean that 215 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: he doesn't think you're an elk. It just means that 216 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: maybe he was expecting the exact opposite from you, So 217 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: maybe his raking scared you away if you're a real elk. 218 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: So you have to think of it like that and 219 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: play it per scenario. But there are certain instances where 220 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: the bull will not come in because he believes he's 221 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: more dominant and you might have a better opportunity at 222 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: him if you are the one that moves to that bull. 223 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: Now let's talk about some of the other sounds. There's 224 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: a term that elk callers used. They call it glunking, 225 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: and that's a really weird sound. It's often done through 226 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: the bugle tube. But what this sound is, I've seen 227 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: it many times in the wild and these ideas are 228 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: just from the way that I've seen elk using this sound. 229 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: It seems to me like this sound is a sound 230 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: that bulls make to communicate to a hot cow. Every 231 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: time I've seen it, generally it's a bull running with 232 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: his nose right up the butt of a cow, or 233 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: pushing a cow around, or just trying to talk to 234 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: one cow. This sound isn't a bugle it's more of 235 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: like a popping noise through a bugle tube, or so 236 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: I'll make it a sound through my bugle tube. Some people. 237 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: The first time I learned to make this sound was 238 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: just hitting the end of the bugle tube. So I'll 239 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: give you an example so you can just kind of 240 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: get it in your head what this sound might sound like. 241 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: So just hitting the bugle tube, I think it sounds 242 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: better if you just do it with your voice, where 243 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: you get a When I've seen that sound, that's generally 244 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: means that a bull has a hot cow. Now, if 245 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: you do that sound in a herd where a bull 246 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: won't commit, he's going to run in because when a 247 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: cow gets hot, he wants to be in on that action, 248 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: and he's gonna push whatever is on that cow away. 249 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: That sound really works well when they're fired up and 250 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: he believes that there's a hot cow in the area. Now, 251 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: another sound that I hear a lot is just a 252 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: heavy breathing. It's more of I'm here, I'm dominant, and 253 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: I don't even need to bugle at you. You're a bit. 254 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: This is the I don't even know if there's a 255 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: name for this sound, but I've heard it a lot 256 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: of times. It's a breathing sound that raises the hair 257 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: on the back of your neck and often happens when 258 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: a bull is within thirty yards. Doing this sound back 259 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: really establishes your dominance and it's a good way to 260 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: get that bull to try to commit. So this is 261 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: more of a heavy breathing noise where he's just piste 262 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: off and breathing hard. It's like glunking, but to a bull, 263 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: not to a cow. It's just heavy breathing. It's kind 264 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: of like a a snort wease for a white tail 265 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: if you heard that, like, and it's just a bull 266 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: piste at another bull and he's so close he knows 267 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: I don't need to bule, And a lot of times 268 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: that sound will incite the bull to fight. And if 269 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: a bull makes that sound, you know, I would say 270 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: he's within thirty yards of where you're calling from. So 271 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: that's something to keep in mind. If you hear that sound, 272 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: be ready. That bull is really close now if he 273 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: doesn't come into that sound. I picked up this trick 274 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: from one of the first outfitters I worked for up 275 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: in the Swan Valley in Montana, real thick country in there, 276 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: and one day he was just some of the best 277 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: elk calling advice I ever got. It's when you call 278 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: a bull, you visualize yourself as that bull. You have 279 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: to get piste off, you have to get fired up. 280 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: You become that elk. And he's like, you know how 281 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: many times you think about when an elk comes in, 282 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: what's the first thing he does? He gets there, he 283 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: rips up a tree's pissing all over himself. You have 284 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: to be that bull. So he says, you know, I'll 285 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: even be calling and all I'll just start peeing on 286 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: the ground. I got really And then the first time 287 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: I tried it, I pulled the bowl right through the 288 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: small patch of conifers. I actually had a water bladder 289 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: at the time, pop the tube off the hose and 290 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: started pouring it on the ground and that bowl just 291 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: came in fired up. It's those little sounds of here's 292 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: another bull marking his territory in my zone. Now that 293 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: that sound is a sound that you would make when 294 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: you know that bowls within I would say thirty yards 295 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: that that range. That he's gonna hear it, and he's 296 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: gonna believe that you're marking your territory. There's a hot 297 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: cow in there. Combined with some of the other sounds, 298 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: the glunking and the raking, and so that oftentimes, when 299 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: they're close and they won't come, that extra little bit 300 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: of distance is a noise you can make. They will 301 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: just send them over the edge and cause them to 302 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: come in and looking for a fight. And a lot 303 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: of times that's the difference between you telling your buddies. Man, 304 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: I had that bowl right there. He was just twenty 305 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: yards on the other side of some trees. But I 306 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: couldn't I couldn't move. I was peg down. I couldn't 307 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: get that bowl to come in any closer. Well, try 308 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: some of these other sounds, because a lot of these 309 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: sounds are the sounds that are gonna get that bowl 310 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: to come right into your lap and give you that 311 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: shot you might not otherwise get these tips. That's concluding 312 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: what I'm calling my September elk calling series right now. 313 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: If I had to just pick three topics that you 314 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: can use right now this September, it will probably make 315 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: you more successful. And I think not a lot of 316 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: people talk about those. Are it now? If you missed 317 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: the other two, do yourself a favor. Go back, download them, 318 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: listen to them. And if you miss the other two, 319 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: it's probably because you're a subscriber, So make sure you subscribe. 320 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: Then they're in your inbox. Then you're on a road trip, 321 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: you're headed out to your elk hunt. You can pop 322 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: this in, listen for twenty minutes, grab your bugle for 323 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: the next two hours and practice and really visualize and 324 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: start thinking about how you're gonna lay out the scenarios 325 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: that you encounter this September in the woods. One thing 326 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: that I definitely want to do is hear from you 327 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: on your successes, things that have worked. You know, if 328 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: you use one of these tips, just keep these in 329 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: the back of your mind when you when you get 330 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: into these scenarios, give them a try. Maybe some of 331 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: these are things you've never used. Maybe these are things 332 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: that you've known your entire life. That's awesome because I 333 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 1: like that affirmation of knowing things that work for me 334 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: have worked for other people. I think that the stuff 335 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: that works the best, it's not just one time it works, 336 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: it works consistently over time. So I wanted to give 337 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: you what I've considered my ELK calling consistencies, the things 338 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: that really make me the most successful during the rut. 339 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: And I want to hear from you, so you can 340 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: do that via social media or remy at the meat 341 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: eater dot com until next week. Good luck and just 342 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: good luck and good skill. Nobody says good skill? Do 343 00:18:58,680 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: they good skill?