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Speaker 2: A dragon plant? Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to

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Speaker 2: the No Dunks Podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: June eighteenth, twenty twenty five. I'm Jay Skeetz here in

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Speaker 2: the Classic Factory and alongside me, as.

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Speaker 4: Always basketball lovers, this is definitely for you.

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Speaker 2: Next to him, it's the Bearded one, my top Sha

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Speaker 2: hot boy, Trey Kirby hel Hey yo, and over yonder

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Speaker 2: making the magic happen. Super producer JD. Theory is here.

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Speaker 2: We are Hello, Hello, Hello to everyone watching on YouTube

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Speaker 2: and listening to the podcast. Do your likes, do your subs,

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Speaker 2: We appreciate it. Yes, On today's show, we're taking a

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Speaker 2: quick time out when it comes to talking about the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five NBA Finals. We have tomorrow to really

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Speaker 2: set the table for Game six of the thunder Pacer series.

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Speaker 2: They don't play tonight, they play on Thursday. So instead,

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Speaker 2: today we're gonna have some fun. We're firing up the

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Speaker 2: tier list maker to rank every NBA finals from this century.

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Speaker 2: So we're looking at twenty six. If we're counting thunder Pacers,

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Speaker 2: we can get hurt. Yeah, okay, you know twenty five

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Speaker 2: looks better on the thumbnail. Let's just be honest, but

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Speaker 2: we'll include thunder Pacers, which is obviously still happening. But

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Speaker 2: TK you got it here, looks good. We've got the

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Speaker 2: S tier and then ABCD. Yeah, will we end up

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Speaker 2: with the perfect Bell curve distribution? Only time will tell.

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised you guys didn't want to do ninety minutes

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Speaker 1: on Billy Donovan and our tourist Carnisivus getting extensions.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna tier rank all of our tourist

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Speaker 1: Carnicivus's best moves tomorrow, so turn in today. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about the finals starting in two thousand, which is a

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Speaker 1: But in the NBA Finals, the Lakers beat the Pacers

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Speaker 1: four to two. It's the last time the Pacers were

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Speaker 1: in the finals. MVP of the two thousand Finals Shaquille O'Neal.

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Speaker 1: You ever heard of him? He averaged thirty eight points,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ei to the hack of shack Era.

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Speaker 1: I think he went eighteen for thirty nine he did.

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Speaker 2: Thirty nine free throws.

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Speaker 1: Game four, Kobe Bryant came up clutch after missing Game

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Speaker 3: This was my year number five. I was thriving.

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Speaker 4: Find many memories about this series at all. Really, you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nuts, it is. It is nuts.

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Speaker 4: Kobe injureds But I don't really think of many moments

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Speaker 2: And you know it's the memorable part is the start

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know it, Blazers one year, Kings one year.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember who they beat in two thousand and one.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't paying good enough attention. But in the finals,

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Speaker 1: the two thousand and one NBA Finals, the Lakers beat

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Speaker 1: Thirty three points per game, sixteen rebounds, five assists in

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Speaker 1: and then the Lakers smashed the next four games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wrote my notes the douchiest of douchebag sweeps

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Speaker 2: like when they came into this Finals two, the Lakers

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Speaker 3: Obviously that was the whole.

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Speaker 2: you know, they're just getting by and it's all Iverson

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Speaker 2: then it was over from there. So I'm I have

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Speaker 4: Because of that singular moment because this was also the

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Speaker 2: Me, Okay, okay, well then you're the deciding factor. He's

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Speaker 2: where do you put it.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it at the end of the beach here.

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Speaker 1: I don't put it behind these two thousand finals. But

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Speaker 1: but it was Allen Iverson's MVP season. Like cool, how

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Speaker 1: much value do you give a guy stepping over another guy?

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Speaker 2: My only other note from this series is in Game two,

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Speaker 2: Shack went for twenty eight to twenty nine assists and

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Speaker 4: It was a weird playoffs for the Lakers because that

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Speaker 4: kept sweeping. They swept the Spurs in the Conference finals

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Speaker 4: David Robinson was pretty old, but that's all.

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Speaker 3: I'll remember.

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Speaker 4: Robert Oriy hit a game winning shot for the Lakers

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Speaker 2: So that's a good story line.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, not the super most super memorable facts.

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Speaker 2: Oh one, Lakers are a pretty good too. He heard

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Speaker 2: it took like going bonker, like I remembered, like they

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Speaker 2: in the second quarter especially, I think he had thirty

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Speaker 2: You said forty eight in game one? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: so he went bonkers. But yeah, they have this team

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Speaker 1: Honestly, he read through all the Wikipedia summaries, and Wikipedia

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Speaker 2: You're like, man, Shack was good. Theres a lot of

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Speaker 1: Two thousand and two NBA Finals, though the Lakers beat

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Speaker 2: Notable games actually kind of hard to find. Oh no,

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Speaker 2: this is this is I think gonna be a D tier.

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Speaker 2: But Jack had forty two, twelve and eight in Game two,

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Speaker 2: And again we're only ranking the finals, not the totality

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Speaker 2: before Kings. It was Kings Lakers, that Western Conference finals.

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Speaker 2: That was your real championship series. This one was a joke.

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Speaker 2: It's so funny. Like Todd McCullough, the pinball wizard himself,

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Speaker 2: Shaq was just devouring every single guy. They were trying

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Speaker 2: two here was a monster. He had forty points, twelve boards.

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Speaker 2: They were doubling them as you should. He was kicking

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Speaker 2: the free throws. But this is a d tiar. This

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Speaker 2: one is was bad. That was fair fight. Yeah, that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a clear of sweep backup centers of

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Speaker 2: Because he had more fouls than points. Yeah, that's a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the clearly the Western Conference Finals was the

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Speaker 4: considering all the free throws that they shot against Sacramento Kings.

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Speaker 4: We didn't know about that game six so many free throws,

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Speaker 4: twenty seven free throws in that fourth quarter.

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Speaker 4: That was the most noteworthy thing of those playoffs. Yeah, really,

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Speaker 4: so this is nothing.

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Speaker 2: This is nothing, okay, D two Yeah, that was that

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Speaker 1: The two took three NBA finals. Hey, the Lakers don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, forgot year.

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Speaker 1: It feels like it should be one to two oh

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, in two thousand and three, it's the Spurs.

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Speaker 1: their Game one victory and every other team score in

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Speaker 1: this series was under one hundred points.

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Speaker 2: The scores are like eighty seven, eighty five, eighty four

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Speaker 2: to seventy nine, seventy seven, seventy six, Game six a

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty low on this one as well. Just these

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Speaker 2: because he goes into retirements. I do remember that. I

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Speaker 4: The Nets won a couple games. Well, yeah, that's good.

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Speaker 4: You know, they didn't get bombed, they didn't get swept.

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Speaker 4: I went through this with my wife, Danielle, who was

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Speaker 4: series than getting swept. A lot of low scoring games,

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Speaker 4: though incredibly low scoring. When you went through Tim Duncan's

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Speaker 4: overall numbers, it's kind of a great accomplishment to get

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Speaker 4: that high because he was putting up numbers at game one,

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Speaker 4: thirty two and twenty six assists and seven blocks, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that. I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: Actually, I think this is maybe seeds here because the

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Speaker 1: this point, right, he won it in two thousand and

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Speaker 1: two and then two thousand and three, and like you're saying,

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Speaker 1: he dominated in this finals. In the game six close

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Speaker 1: ten assists, and eight blocks eight blocks quad. Not many

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Speaker 1: better games in the NBA Finals than that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: So you guys want to go see tier I guess

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Speaker 2: I'm more of a d tier man. That's fine here, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're not going back to watch this whatever. You'll watch

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Speaker 2: that Tim Duncan highlight mixed. That's yes, that's it.

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Speaker 3: But because it's arguably his best series.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but you're playing the Nets like no offense, Danny.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry if you're listening to watching, but like the

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Speaker 2: Nets were the last team under fifty wins to reach

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Speaker 2: the NBA Finals in a fully played season until we

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Speaker 4: Season team, but they got there and they won two games.

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Speaker 2: It turns out when the scores are in the eighties

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Tom mccullag got out of the way for

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Speaker 4: de Kenvi mctumba. You know, things were different with that,

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Speaker 4: but yeahs definitely it might be the bottom of the.

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Speaker 2: You know what, Okay, bottom of the C tier, and

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Speaker 2: I will make a case for you guys to get it.

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Speaker 2: To see instead of d we did have twenty five

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Speaker 2: year old rookie man Neu Genobili playing in this one,

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Speaker 2: and he was like a positive player, like you you're

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Speaker 2: he was out there, like he was basically a positive player,

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Speaker 2: and they won his minutes all the time. So that

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Speaker 2: was like the start of Ginobili okay and his runs here. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: see tier.

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Speaker 1: See tier it is for now the two thousand and

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Speaker 1: four NBA Finals. I feel like The Detroit Pistons are

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Speaker 1: a team that has gained a lot of respect since

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Speaker 1: this time. In the past twenty one years, the Pistons

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Speaker 1: beat the Lakers for one Lakers made it back after

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Speaker 1: a year out of the Finals.

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Speaker 2: The MVP was Chauncey billups.

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Speaker 1: He went for twenty one points a game, three rebounds,

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Speaker 1: five assists per game, plus a steal. Obviously known as

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Speaker 1: one of the biggest upsets in NBA Finals history, also

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Speaker 1: known for the Pistons defense. In three separate games, they

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Speaker 1: held the Lakers to seventy five, sixty eight, and eighty points.

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Speaker 1: This is also the end of the Shaq, Kobe and

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah. This one is commonly referred to as

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Speaker 2: a five game sweep because the Pistons dominated the four

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Speaker 2: But that had some like cool. That was Kobe, I

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Speaker 2: think hitting a big shot to get it into overtime. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's like should we foul up? Three moments from NBA history.

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Speaker 1: The Pistons decide we're not gonna foul anybody unless it's

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Speaker 1: Shack catching the ball.

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Speaker 2: But it goes to Kobe.

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Speaker 1: He makes the shot, Lakers win it in overtime, and

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Speaker 1: then I went to my Josh, my friend Josh Franks's

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Speaker 1: Lakers are gonna bounce back. They just had that awesome

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Speaker 1: win in Game two. They've got three championships. They're hungry

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Speaker 1: for another one.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: Karl Wilon, I think this is the very last series

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Speaker 1: I'm like, they're gonna do this for sure. And they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, Carrian Prince was shutting down Kobe happens the

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Speaker 4: That was their franchise low sixty eight points in a

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Speaker 4: freaking game. And that's why it's not that noteworthy for

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Speaker 2: No, No, this is this is This is a tough

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Speaker 4: Yeah, outside checking, none of the Lakers rotation shot over

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Speaker 3: No one got close to it. That's a bad number.

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Speaker 4: But it is notorious because of who the Detroit Pistons are, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: because everyone refers to you know, if they're thinking about

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Speaker 4: duper star, they say, what about those two thousand and

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Speaker 2: They did it? Yeah, you know, they did it. They

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Speaker 2: come up a lot, they do as the David to

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Speaker 2: this goliath that was the Lakers. Yeah, even though again

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Speaker 2: I always forget that this wasn't like the four straight

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Speaker 2: finals appearance for those Lakers. Kobe is that weird year there?

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Speaker 2: They weren't there. But I guess I'm gonna go see tier. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm fine with that. Maybe maybe a little higher than

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Speaker 2: go super high. I said over two thousand and three first, okay, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's fine with me. Cool. I was even flirting with

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Speaker 2: you said Carl Malone's last game and then Gary Payton's

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Speaker 2: so this was the end of that the Kobe shack.

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Speaker 1: At least two thousand and five, the Spurs are back.

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Speaker 1: They beat the Pistons, who are also back. Spurs win

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Speaker 1: four to three. In the two thousand and five NBA

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Speaker 1: Finals MVP once again Tim Duncan twenty points per game,

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Speaker 1: fourteen rebounds to assist, plus two blocks per game. This

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Speaker 1: half for dcal. Third Spurs title in seven seasons. I

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Speaker 1: guess starting in nineteen ninety nine. Notable games and this

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Speaker 1: twelve lead changes and Robert Ory went nuts ye in

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter and overtime. He went five for six

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Speaker 2: starring Game one as well. He said, played well in

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Speaker 2: Game seven, but yeah, Duncan took over in the third

435
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Speaker 2: quarter in Game seven. This one's tough because the first

436
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Speaker 2: four sort of suck, yeah, the first four games, but

437
00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,320
Speaker 2: then it saved by five, six, seven and a lot

438
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Speaker 2: of heroics. So I have it pretty high and maybe

439
00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,920
Speaker 2: it going to seven plays apart. I think there could

440
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Speaker 2: be a case for an E tier here. Wow, B,

441
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:30,680
Speaker 2: you're not.

442
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Speaker 1: Going that high a B for sure. Yeah, I think

443
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Speaker 1: this is our best B yet. I would have it

444
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Speaker 1: ahead of two thousand and two thousand and one.

445
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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is my man Genobili series. Arguably he could

446
00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,240
Speaker 4: have won MVP. Those numbers were super close to Tim Duncan,

447
00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,760
Speaker 4: and he came through bake time. In game one, he

448
00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,680
Speaker 4: had that fourth quarter if you had dropped fifteen points

449
00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,920
Speaker 4: to get them, it was there was that dunk hook

450
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,680
Speaker 4: shot three pointer and they won by fifteen. But then yeah,

451
00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,719
Speaker 4: Game two, another blow, Game three, another blow, Game four,

452
00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,760
Speaker 4: super blow, and then game five was they started to

453
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,920
Speaker 4: get close again. It got fun. That was the Robert

454
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Speaker 4: Rory game winner. N ot So when you look back,

455
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Speaker 4: seven games should be fun. But I can't go super high,

456
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,480
Speaker 4: yeah because they because they weren't all that fun.

457
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Speaker 2: But the man new thing was on the floor there.

458
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and the finals word mark was on the floor.

459
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Speaker 2: I think they had that on the baseline. So okay

460
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Speaker 2: for you, I'm probably saying too much stuff on the floor.

461
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Speaker 2: So you're saying that Robert Horriy three, was that the

462
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Speaker 2: one where Rashid Laws leaves them? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay,

463
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Speaker 2: man man who set them up me got good at

464
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Speaker 2: the end. But okay, you guys are knocking it for

465
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Speaker 2: the first flour. That's understandable. They were blowout. So you

466
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Speaker 2: want to go top of the bat here. Yeah, I'm

467
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Speaker 2: trying to.

468
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a beat, that's a be It's not something

469
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Speaker 4: you really Maybe I'll get back.

470
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, I think that could get bumped up.

471
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Speaker 2: How much about how much of it did you remember

472
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Speaker 2: before you did research? I mean, that's a part of

473
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Speaker 2: it for sure. I remember the Robert Hory game. I

474
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Speaker 2: remembered Manu like to break out, obviously Duncan still anah. Yeah.

475
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Speaker 2: I didn't remember like final scores of those first four,

476
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Speaker 2: Like in my head, was it closer? Not?

477
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

478
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,679
Speaker 2: No, no, but okay, beat beast, fine, all right.

479
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Speaker 1: Two thousand and six NBA Finals, one of the most

480
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Speaker 1: controversial in NBA history.

481
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 2: The Heat beat the MAVs four to two.

482
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Speaker 1: Dwayne Wade was your MVP thirty five points per game,

483
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,640
Speaker 1: eight rebounds for assist, two steals, and a block. Really

484
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Speaker 1: his coming out party. This is definitely known for Dwayne

485
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Speaker 1: Wade taking twenty.

486
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Speaker 2: Five free throws in Game five. Yep.

487
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Speaker 1: Also Shack's first non Lakers title. The MAVs won the

488
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Speaker 1: first two games of this series, lost the next four,

489
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Speaker 1: and this is the first Mike Breen Finals in NBA history.

490
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Speaker 1: So the notable games definitely was Game five Dwayne Wade

491
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Speaker 1: forty three points including twenty five free throw attempts. The

492
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Speaker 1: Heat win this one in overtime after an odd timeout

493
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Speaker 1: call on john This is the most known game for

494
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Speaker 1: sure from this finals.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So for those that don't know, like you said,

496
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Speaker 2: Wade with all the free throws, there was like a

497
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Speaker 2: controversial over and back call or no call at the

498
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Speaker 2: end of that Game five. Cuban was so mad. Cuban

499
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 2: was to find a lot for that, and uh, Wade

500
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Speaker 2: back at the line and he hit the first free throw,

501
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 2: and then you see Dallas Mavericks coach Avery Johnson signaling

502
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,880
Speaker 2: to the team, hey, call a time out, but he's

503
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Speaker 2: trying to say call a time out after Wade's attempt

504
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 2: if he hits another one here, but Josh Howard was

505
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 2: a little confused what Avery Johnson was relaying, and he

506
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 2: starts to gesture time out and starts walking to the

507
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Speaker 2: bench like it was pretty blatant, like he thought, okay,

508
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Speaker 2: we're calling time out here, and so the rest like, okay,

509
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 2: time out And that was huge because they couldn't advance

510
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:31,919
Speaker 2: the ball after Wade then hit the second one, and

511
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 2: it was like Devin Harris like chucked up like a

512
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Speaker 2: half court shot that wasn't that far off. He sort

513
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Speaker 2: of he's good at those crazy happen, Yeah, exactly. But anyway,

514
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 2: that was a bit of the controversy, the over and

515
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Speaker 2: back call, all the Wade free throws, and then this

516
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Speaker 2: idea of like Josh Howard did he or did he

517
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Speaker 2: not call the time out? He should the rest have

518
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 2: known he meant to do it after Anyway, weird series,

519
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 2: said Jerry Stackhouse getting suspended in game FO hitting Shack,

520
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 2: so he didn't play in that game fast.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the moment sticks out to me is Gary Payton's

522
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 4: game winner in Game three because they were down two

523
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Speaker 4: to oh and they're down big in the fourth quarter.

524
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Speaker 4: I don't know, it's double digits. Yeah, thirteen fourteen, I

525
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 4: got it written death thirteen midway through the fourth quarter

526
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Speaker 4: and Gary Payton hit a game winner to get the

527
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Speaker 4: Heat their first win. That was monstrous and a championship

528
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Speaker 4: for him obviously, his his first and only championship. But

529
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Speaker 4: it is remembered for free throws, especially.

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Speaker 2: If you're a Dallas fan. Yeah. Yeah, so where do

531
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Speaker 2: we put it? It's a see to me? See it be?

532
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Speaker 2: I had a beach here, I mean I did like

533
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Speaker 2: the I think the Heat were only the third team

534
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Speaker 2: at the time. A couple have done it since to

535
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Speaker 2: be down oh two and then come back and win

536
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Speaker 2: four straight. So that's like a little something there. I mean,

537
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Speaker 2: obviously we see the Cavs do it later and the

538
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 2: Bucks do it later, only on a handful of teams

539
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Speaker 2: have done it before the Heat.

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Speaker 4: That's when the NBA starts to contemplate do he kill

541
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 4: this two three to two thing? Because it hurt? And

542
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 4: Dallas complained about that as well. Mark even complained about

543
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Speaker 4: a lot of things, and he definitely complained about that.

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Speaker 2: I get that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, BC, it's a memorable It's memorable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that memoryle that's I'm b all right, I'm a

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Speaker 2: band for this memorable. Okay, so we got the heat

548
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Speaker 2: over the mate? Did I get better than oh one? Oh?

549
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Speaker 2: Jesus gets very tough. Yeah, I think I like breaking

550
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 2: up the logos. Sure, sure that wash six? All right?

551
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Speaker 1: Two thousand and seven, Spurs are back. They went four

552
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Speaker 1: to zero over Lebron James's Cavaliers. MVP was Tony Parker,

553
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 1: who went for twenty five points per game plus five

554
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: rebounds three assists. This is known for being Lebron's first

555
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 1: finals honestly a throwback bad ratings finals when you're reading

556
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Speaker 1: through the Wikipedia, I think this was the first one

557
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: that was like, ratings were pretty low for this one.

558
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 2: Lowest television NBA Finals ratings since we got to twenty

559
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Speaker 2: twenty on the bubble.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, the fourth Spurs title since nineteen ninety nine.

561
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Speaker 1: Notable Game ones are Lebron's first finals game or notable games.

562
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Speaker 1: Game one is Lebron's first Finals game. Fourteen points on

563
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Speaker 1: four of sixteen shooting, not great. Game three seventy five

564
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: to seventy two, which is the lowest scoring Finals game

565
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: since nineteen fifty five.

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Speaker 2: I think this is a D TI your Finals. It's

567
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Speaker 2: a D. Yeah, it's a D And here's a couple

568
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,719
Speaker 2: of reasons. There's not a lot of memorable moments. I mean, honestly,

569
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Speaker 2: one of the most memorable moments is from after Game

570
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 2: four when Duncan seeks out Lebron like in the tunnel

571
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 2: or in the locker room to say, hey, man, you

572
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 2: know this this league's going to be yours someday. That's

573
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Speaker 2: one of the first things I think of, Like that

574
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 2: cool scene.

575
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Speaker 4: Yeah, where he says, I appreciate you giving it to

576
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 4: us this year. Literally, yeah, so that made Lebron smile.

577
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Speaker 4: That's the most memorable moment. I mean, Big Z had

578
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 4: a lot of big boards, Missus Junis Algoskas had eighteen

579
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Speaker 4: rebounds in that clanker that you said, seventy five seventy two.

580
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 4: Other than that, Now it's Lebron getting a hug from

581
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Speaker 4: Duncan and getting his team there. Literally Lebron getting his

582
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 4: team there and he dragged them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what I was gonna say. The two

584
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 2: best series of the seven playoffs are both the Spurs

585
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 2: Sun's second round when Robert Rory's body checking Steve Nash

586
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 2: and then we have Amari coming off the bench in

587
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 2: the suspension all that. That's an incredible series. And then

588
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: so is the Cavs Pistons Eastern Conference Finals where Lebron

589
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 2: has the bonkers game where he goes like for twenty

590
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: nine to the final thirty points in that double overtime win.

591
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 2: So like, those are way more memorable than this sweep

592
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 2: of the Spurs taking care of the Calves, which Lebron

593
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 2: was just dragging this crazy team to the finals. Yeah,

594
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I ready to be like reading it.

595
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: You're like game three they decided to start Booby Gibson. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

596
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 2: It took until Game four for Cleveland to take their

597
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: first second half lead of the series. Wow, so they didn't.

598
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 2: They weren't even leading in the second half. And then

599
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: it's a D two. Yeah, that's a D. It's not great.

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Speaker 5: It's a D.

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Speaker 2: Boy.

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Speaker 1: This might be our first A Tier finals though. The

603
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Speaker 1: two thousand and eight NBA Finals, the Celtics beat the

604
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: Lakers four to two. Paul Pierce was your MVP twenty

605
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: two points per game, five rebound, six assists, and a steal.

606
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: This is known for the Celtics Big Three Ubuntu title

607
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 1: for sure. Doc Rivers winning a championship, first Boston Championship

608
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: in twenty two years. The most notable games are definitely

609
00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: Game one where Paul Pierce.

610
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 2: Leaves in a wheelchair. Oh yeah, comes back, went.

611
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: Six for six from the field, Like he was pretty

612
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: sweet after coming back from after.

613
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: We thought he was done for this series, after it

614
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 2: looked like his career was over. He left twice that game.

615
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 4: I didn't realize, like he went to the bench or

616
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 4: went to the locker room earlier and then came back

617
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 4: in then had to get on a wheelchair, then had

618
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 4: to talk about it a decade later when he said

619
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 4: he just needed to poop.

620
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, lies, no way. Yeah. Also a notable Game two,

621
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Speaker 2: the Leon Poe game.

622
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Speaker 1: He's like that was crazy, And this one Paul Pierce

623
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 1: blocks a Sasha Vuyach three pointer at the end of

624
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: the game. Game four has a huge Celtics comeback for

625
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: the win, and then Game six a thirty nine point

626
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: Celtics blowout, which was just weird to see in a

627
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: closeout game.

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00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and sometimes I think, uh I may have been

629
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 2: live blogging this series for yeah Who's Sports, because I

630
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 2: remember that thirty nine point blowout in Game six and

631
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 2: it was like, oh, what a crappy end to what

632
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 2: was a pretty entertaining series. Yeah, you went through it.

633
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: I wrote down game one, wheelchair game Game two, Leon Powell,

634
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 2: Game three that was sort of the machine game. Sasha

635
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 2: Vuya Chich was really good in that one. Game four

636
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 2: was the comeback game. Celtics were down huge, came back.

637
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 2: Game five I just called it the game of runs

638
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 2: game because La went up big twice and both times

639
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 2: they gave the lead back, but then they pulled out

640
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 2: the victory at the end. And then game six I

641
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 2: wrote down the blowout game. Rocky first quarter and then

642
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 2: the Celtics dominated and it was drubbing largest ever difference

643
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 2: in an NBA Championship clinching game, thirty nine points. So yeah,

644
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: you want to make a case for the eight tier.

645
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 2: It kind of peters out at the end, does Peter Roun?

646
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 2: I had it high B but where do you fall?

647
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it is Laker Celtics. It's lak Er Celtics.

648
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 4: It gets put up higher a little bit more for that.

649
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Speaker 4: But yeah, it ended poorly. No no podcast has mentioned

650
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 4: Leon Poe more than this one in the last month

651
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 4: because of what he did in that game. Because Ben

652
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 4: Mathurin was emulating that here in the twenty twenty five Finals.

653
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 4: It was the most notable note for me seeing what

654
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 4: the Celtics had to do to get there. They played

655
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 4: a seven game series, then a seven game series, and

656
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 4: a six game series, and then this one ended up

657
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 4: in six games. It's a record of twenty six playoff

658
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 4: games because they're so long.

659
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: Oh those are log it's a lot of playoff run.

660
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, they literally almost had you know, that's a lot

661
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 4: of games this period. And then they ended it with

662
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 4: a thirty nine point win, which was a band that

663
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 4: being said, it's the Paul Pierce story.

664
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 3: I got it. I got it to be at least okay,

665
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 3: at least.

666
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: All right, we'll put it well top I'd put it

667
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: to the top of the best. Yeah, yeah, okay. Two

668
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: thousand and nine NBA Finals the Lakers. They beat the

669
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: Magic four to one. Kobe Bryant was the MVP in

670
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: this one, thirty two points per game, six rebound, seven assists,

671
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,719
Speaker 1: plus a steal in a block. This is known for

672
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: being Kobe's first non shock title, his first Finals MVP,

673
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: and most notably, I would say Courtney Lee missing an

674
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: alley play up with point six seconds left in Game two,

675
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: which may have changed the series because I think it

676
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: would have been then one to one, yeah, going back

677
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: to Orlando, yep. But instead the Lakers beat the Magic

678
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: in OT of that one, they're up to zero, and

679
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: then game four the Lakers winning OT again.

680
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: I guess that's kind of the most notable things. Yeah,

681
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: three of the five games were close. You said two

682
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: went to overtime, so and so that's good. It was

683
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: competitive games, and you said the Courtney Lee moment. I

684
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 2: can't think of a lot of other things that jump

685
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 2: out to me from this one. I mean, we're obviously

686
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: now at this point doing the show, watching these in

687
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: great detail, and it's like, what else was there? I

688
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 2: just remember like.

689
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 4: Dwite missing two free throws at the end of Game

690
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 4: four was very important. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Literally, he hits

691
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 4: one and it's a four point game, but he misses both,

692
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 4: and then Derek Fisher, who is ice cold, gets a

693
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 4: shot to tie it and sent it to overtime. Right,

694
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 4: So that was big. Yeah, along with Courtney Lee, who whoa,

695
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 4: whoa you gotta I've watched that probably one billion times.

696
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 4: I still can't believe he doesn't go in. He still

697
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 4: can't believe he doesn't go in. Pagosol's hand actually goes

698
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 4: through the rim, but it doesn't really matter because Courtney

699
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 4: Lee's shot is so far off and he didn't he

700
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 4: didn't it out, he didn't mess it up. That was

701
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 4: a That was a series where those two two games

702
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 4: obviously could have swayed big time.

703
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 2: If we're being honest, Dwight Howard and the Magic robbed

704
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: us from what have been would have been our only

705
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: Kobe versus Lebron finals. Yeah, so there's that part too,

706
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: But it was cool that it was the Disney series.

707
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: Remember Disney World versus Disneyland. I remember that. I don't

708
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 2: know the games are competitive though, Like I said, so

709
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 2: it's like it's it's b C to me. I don't

710
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 2: know where we slot it. I guess I did have

711
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: in my notes beat here, which I'm surprising myself a

712
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: little bit. Probably would go high. See Okay, that's fine

713
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 2: by me. Sure, okay high see top of the Seas.

714
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 4: There's the Jamiir Nelson starting again for Ray for Alson.

715
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 4: Maybe he shouldn't have been starting.

716
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: But he was fine.

717
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny to see those storylines come back. You're like, man,

718
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: I remember so much wondering about Jimmy or Nelson. I

719
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: remember so much wondering if Tyler Hero gonna play in

720
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three.

721
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 4: And oh yeah, I got shot block on Kobe.

722
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: What game was that? I gotta noted here for four?

723
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: Game four was a banger?

724
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 4: No, no, no four was a Lakers ot. Yeah, yeah,

725
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 4: that was a Lakers ot. But no, it was Game

726
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 4: two that Keto black Kobe. I think, so anyways, that

727
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 4: could be wrong. You know, it's twenty five years of

728
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 4: basketball here.

729
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

730
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: Twenty ten the NBA Finals. The Lakers beat the Celtics

731
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: four to three. Pretty great finals. MVP Kobe Bryant twenty

732
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: nine points, eight rebounds, four assists, and two steals. Obviously,

733
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: the Lakers are known for winning back to back titles here.

734
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: Also notable, Kobe wente six for twenty four in Game seven,

735
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: and there was a lot of talk about should Pau

736
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: gasol b should he have won the finals?

737
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 2: MVP?

738
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: I think he has eighteen rebounds in Game seven, and

739
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: that was a game that the Lakers basically won by

740
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: grabbing offensive rebounds and Kobe going to the free throw

741
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: line one hundred times. Notable games Game three, Derek Fisher

742
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: scores eleven of his sixteen points in the fourth quarter

743
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: to say the Lakers Game four, it's the Celtics bench

744
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: going crazy. That's when you got Nate rob jumping on

745
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: the back of Big Baby. They were shreking Donkey at

746
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: the pretty funny. Game six, Kendrick Perkins hurts his knee,

747
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: which is how we got Doc Rivers saying we never

748
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: lost a series with our starting five intact. And then

749
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: Game seven, Kobe Bryant has twenty three points on six

750
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: of twenty four shooting, plus a million free throws. Ron

751
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: our test still run our test at the time, I

752
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: believe hits a late three pointer. And then in his

753
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: post game post finals press conference.

754
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 2: Kobe passed me the ball. He never passes me the ball.

755
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: Very funny.

756
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, good finals calling out or saying thanks to a

757
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 4: psychiatrist postgame.

758
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 2: So good was this?

759
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: Say Queen's Bridge is this might have been the same

760
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: playoff run because I guess Craig Sager would have been

761
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: a turner guy, so it would have been.

762
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: Probably Western Conference Finals. But great, our test was on

763
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 2: a good run then it was. It was This was

764
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 2: Phil Jackson's first ever finals Game seven too, that's sure, yeah, yeah,

765
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 2: And it was a you know, like Game seven's can be.

766
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: It was pretty ugly, Yeah, it was. It was a

767
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 2: rock fight Game seven, but good series and Lakers were

768
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: down three to two and it went back to LA

769
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: so there's the comeback. Yeah, a couple unfortunate injuries. But

770
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: I'm an a tier guy on this one. You know

771
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: it's going seven. These are two story franchises. There's some

772
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: big moments. You went through them. So I'm an eachier guy.

773
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 4: I am an a tier even though Game seven was

774
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 4: not that well played and there were so many clankers,

775
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 4: and our man Matt Austin was lying down on a

776
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 4: carpet for this game.

777
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 2: This game he was he was watching.

778
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 4: He fell asleep on a carpet watching this game, his

779
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 4: hand in his pocket.

780
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, it was a little boring.

781
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 4: Also the note that I made, apparently Monica saying national

782
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 4: the national anthem after were before Game three, who was

783
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 4: also married to Shannon Brown, who was also playing in

784
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 4: this series.

785
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 2: You don't see that very often. She showed up.

786
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 4: On time, didn't show up for one of our shows

787
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 4: years later. But it was a seven game series, so

788
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 4: I've got I've got an a as well. Although I

789
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 4: was definitely one of those should win MVP. Yeah, that

790
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 4: was one of the.

791
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: He could have had a Game seven the Kobe at

792
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 2: the very least, but whatever.

793
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 3: It was also a bond that those two really made.

794
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 4: You know, we've we've heard other moments of Kobe and

795
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 4: Powell making that bond, but that this series was to

796
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 4: me was it was about Pow.

797
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 2: And Kobe bonding.

798
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 3: So I like it. I like it as an a

799
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 3: for me.

800
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 2: And then this is, uh, yeah, this is Kobe's fifth

801
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 2: championship and he, like in the press conference, was like

802
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: I got one more than check, Like you made that

803
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 2: whole joke. That's right. I noted that out five to

804
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 2: four for him, So okay, ey.

805
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: Tier twenty eleven NBA Finals a banger. The MAVs beat

806
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: the Heat four to two. MVP was Dirk Novitsky, who

807
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: averaged twenty six points per game, ten rebounds, and to assist.

808
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 1: This is known for being one of the craziest championship

809
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: runs in NBA history. Dirk crying after closing things out

810
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: in Game six, uh, some Lebron meltdowns. JJ Burrea is

811
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: a notable name here, and then Wade and Lebron doing

812
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: the fake cough when they were mad that Dirk Novinsky

813
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: was getting a lot of leeway for having a hurt

814
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 1: hand and for you know, coming down with an illness.

815
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: A lot of notable games in this one.

816
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: In Game two, the MAVs come back from down fifteen,

817
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: Dark hits a game winner with that left hand that

818
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: was injured. Game three, bosh, it's a game winner. Game four,

819
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: Lebron scores eight points on three of eleven shooting. Game five,

820
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: Jason Terry takes over in the fourth quarter, and then

821
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: Game six. For me, I really just remember for Dirk

822
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: winning and then going into the locker room before he

823
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: comes back out for all of.

824
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 2: His postgame stuff. So this is a great finals. This

825
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 2: is the top of the eight tier to me, but

826
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 2: maybe you guys want to throw it in the S

827
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 2: tier and include up there. But it's legendary and that run.

828
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 2: I mean, they beat the Blazers, okay, the Mavericks do,

829
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: but then beat the defending champion Lakers, then the Thunder,

830
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 2: the upstart Thunder at that, and then take care of

831
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: the Big three Miami Heat, that evil Miami Heat. Dirk

832
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: just ending the narrative that he's like this underperformer in

833
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Which had been following him around like a

834
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: dark cloud for like a decade. He was incredible. He

835
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 2: had all these like huge shots in fourth quarters, in overtimes,

836
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: throughout the entire postseason, and then man, holy crap, the

837
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: takes were flying when it came to Lebron James. Oh

838
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 2: yeah in this one, having like what do you say,

839
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 2: it averaged like eighteen points and seven and seven. When

840
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 2: you look at that with Lebron's name beside it, you're like,

841
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: oh the hell happened?

842
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: I feel like we were getting those graphics showing us like,

843
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: look how short JJ Burrea is guarding Lebron.

844
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 2: He's so much smarter. De Shan Stevenson became a guy

845
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 2: that we all knew about. Yeah, so there's a lot.

846
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 2: So I have it at the top of the A tier,

847
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 2: But where do you go? I'm going straight to the top.

848
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 4: The fact that Heat were up two to one and

849
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 4: then they did the walking in the hallways doing that

850
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 4: they're rocking, and then the MAVs come back and win

851
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 4: the rest of the way. They won three straight games

852
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 4: after that, So it's just too good a storyline. And

853
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 4: that's Lebron's worst game, Game four, where they came back.

854
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 4: He had that eight point performance. No respect for Sean

855
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 4: Marian who did a great job against it.

856
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: He really did.

857
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 4: And that's probably why Lebron said Sean come join me

858
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 4: on the Cavs a little later in his career because

859
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 4: of what he did to him in the that game.

860
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 4: This isn't just a great team for me to Yeah,

861
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 4: it's who was the second best player for the match.

862
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 4: You can beat so many different plays, probably just Terry

863
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 4: off the bench scoring wise, but you know, Jason Kidd

864
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 4: was also really good. Chun mary And was also very good.

865
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 4: Tyson Chandler was also very good. I heard about JJ

866
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 4: Burrea coming in and starting for that team. So that

867
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 4: was that was just an incredible team period, all right.

868
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you talked me into an s heer too. Wow.

869
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: We won our first S Tier Mavericks beating my fe

870
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: twenty twelve NBA Finals heaterback, they beat the Thunder four

871
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: to one. MVP in this one was Lebron James twenty

872
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: nine points, ten rebound, seven assists and a steal per game.

873
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: This is known for being Lebron's first title, his first

874
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: Finals MVP, and that shot of Durant, Westbrook and Harden

875
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 1: at the end of Game five.

876
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 2: All the thunder are going to be back. Mm hmm yeah, yeah,

877
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 2: just another thirteen years later.

878
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: Notable games Game two, Katie driving baseline in Game two,

879
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: maybe a little touch on the hip from Lebron James,

880
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: he misses the shot, it's a no call. He get

881
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: the winning Game four, Lebron cramps up, can't play the

882
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: last two minutes of the game, but Mario Chalmers carries

883
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: the team to a win. And then and then Game five,

884
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: the closeout game. Mike Miller hit seven threes, but he

885
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 1: did have his shoes on for every single one. And yeah,

886
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: we'll get to the sod hard to remember when his

887
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 1: shoe came off.

888
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 2: I had to look it up. I was like, oh,

889
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: is this one Mike Miller lost the shoe. No, no,

890
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 2: this is another game where he was just on fire.

891
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: He went seven of eight from deep. Lebron had a

892
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 2: triple double in that final Game two. Uh. We should

893
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 2: note this was the sixty six game lockout season. Yes,

894
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: so there is, yeah, there was that. It was a

895
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 2: little different. There's an asterisk for Sea. Yeah. Look, look

896
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: amazing that Lebron is in the two champions Two of

897
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 2: his championships are in the lockout season and then the

898
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: bubble season. It's sort of funny. Katie was amazing though

899
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 2: in that game one, like you said, and then maybe

900
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 2: was he foul? I think he was. That would have

901
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: been Lebron's sixth foul. Two he would have been out

902
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 2: of that game. Yeah, that was a really big call

903
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 2: or no call. I go beat her. You know this

904
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: one is like to me, a perfect, like sort of

905
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 2: average finals. Uh, you know, big names obviously a bunch

906
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: of future Hall of famers in it. Westbrook has a

907
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: forty point game, I think, yeah, and there were close games.

908
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 2: I think the heats experience sort of did like sort

909
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: of you know, oh class the thunder, the young thunder

910
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 2: at that in these finals games a lot of times

911
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: down the stretch. But I go b too. Yeah, it's good,

912
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 2: not great.

913
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, the experience definitely was a factor because the first

914
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 4: two games were in Okay. See they lose that one

915
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 4: because of the the no touch or the no foul,

916
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 4: I should say, and then they lost three straight in Miami.

917
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 4: But because it's such a short series and because it

918
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 4: really is remembered for a foul that wasn't a foul,

919
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 4: which is horrendous to be talking about with Lebron's first title.

920
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 4: I'm a seat tier. I just I just it's not

921
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 4: that memorable for me. Even though it is Lebron's first title,

922
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 4: there just wasn't that many moments.

923
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 2: It seems a lot better than some of those ones

924
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: we have in the Sea to.

925
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 3: Me fighting factor.

926
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

927
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: I'm feeling generous to the NBA legends right now, so

928
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: I'll put it in the b too. You know, it

929
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: is formative moments for Lebron and for the the thunder

930
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: guys as well, for sure. Twenty thirteen NBA Finals up

931
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: Banger the Heat beat the Spurs four to three, MVP

932
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: Lebron James twenty five, eleven and seven with two steals

933
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: on a block. This is known for a lot of stuff,

934
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: including the Ray Allen shot in game six, Lebron blocking

935
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 1: Teato's Thiago splitters dunk in game two, Danny Green almost

936
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: winning finals, MVP Mike Miller making a three pointer with

937
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: one shoe up in game six. There's almost all notable games.

938
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: I feel like in this one game one, Tony Parker

939
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 1: has a bank shot to win. A test has brought

940
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: that up recently on the show. Game This must be

941
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: Game two. I have my notes wrong. Game two, Gary

942
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: Neal hits six threes, Danny Green hit seven threes. Game

943
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: six and all timer. Lebron loses his headband late in.

944
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 2: The fourth quarter. The Ropes are out as the Spurs

945
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 2: are up ninety four to eighty nine. With twenty eight

946
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 2: seven twenty eight seconds left, Lebron misses a three pointer,

947
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 2: offensive rebounds swings back around to Lebron makes the second one.

948
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 2: Tim Duncan goes to the line one of two free throws.

949
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 2: Lebron misses another three pointer, but Chris Bosh grabs the rebound,

950
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: finds Ray Allen in the corner right in front of

951
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: Jimmy Goldstein, back pedals knocks it down. Heat win it

952
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: and get win.

953
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: Game six and overtime, and then Game seven, also a

954
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: really tightly contested game. Tim Duncan has two looks point

955
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: blank range to tie things up with fifty seconds left,

956
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: but he misses it and the Heat end up pulling

957
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: things out in one of the craziest finals ever.

958
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 2: Just one, I think one correction. I think you said

959
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 2: Duncan missed one of two friezos.

960
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 5: Wasn't that?

961
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 3: Kawhi definitely did.

962
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, in that Game six down stretch. Yeah,

963
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: but today's the twelfth anniversary of the Ray Allen shot. Cool,

964
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: so let you go. Yeah, get those motherfucking ropes out

965
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 2: of here, as he said, go back to the bench.

966
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: Pretty baller, but we're out. We watched this one at

967
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: Ken's house. Yeah, we did. This is awesome. This is

968
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 2: an st here. Oh yeah, I mean there there are

969
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: some blowouts early in the series, like despite some great moments,

970
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,439
Speaker 2: like you said, a lot of guys like catching fire

971
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 2: from three on both sides throughout some of these games.

972
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 2: But like Game one awesome, and then oh my god,

973
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: like Game six one of the most memorable games of

974
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 2: all time, even into the overtime where it's like they

975
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 2: did play an extra five. Yeah, and it was tightly contestant,

976
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: and Bosh obviously got the block in the corner on

977
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: Danny Green. And then Game seven happened and it was

978
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: like that was such a weird like it was a

979
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: whole other game after that. Yeah, and then it's such

980
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 2: a weird game, Like Lebron went for thirty seven points,

981
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: so he was special in Game seven. Chris Bosh, Ray

982
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: Allen and Mike Miller didn't score in game seven. Think

983
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: about that. Whoosh, Ray Allen and Mike Miller, like three

984
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: of their most important players. Yeah, didn't score and they

985
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 2: win it. That's wild to me. That is pretty crazy.

986
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 2: But this is s t here easy one, twenty fourteen

987
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: NBA Finals with Spurs are back. It's a rematch with

988
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 2: the heat Spurs take this one for to one.

989
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: The MVP is Kawhi Leonard eighteen points per game, six

990
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: rebounds to assist, a steal in a half and a

991
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: block per game. He kind of wins this one for

992
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: playing defense against Lebron. James are for being quite but

993
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: it is Qui's coming out party, which I think is

994
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: what this is known for, as well as being the peak.

995
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 2: Of like the beautiful game Spurs. Look how the ball

996
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 2: is moving.

997
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: This is the spurs first title since seven, the end

998
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: of the Heatles era in Miami, and also my first

999
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: finals which ended.

1000
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: Up being a two to two one one one for

1001
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 2: the first time for a long time.

1002
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 3: So I was on the road for eight a long

1003
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 3: time now.

1004
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: And correct me if I'm wrong. Were you in the

1005
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: building for Game one when we had the air conditioning

1006
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, malfunction yep, which then led to Lebron being

1007
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: dehydrated and experiencing cramps, and he played like five minutes

1008
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarterly that was a huge story. Oh yeah,

1009
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: but it was like did they do it on purpose?

1010
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 2: Like it was like ninety degrees or whatever, thirty two

1011
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 2: celsius in the building. That was what a way to

1012
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 2: start a finals. But then yeah, they sort of did

1013
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 2: take care of business. QUI was awesome. Yeah, I don't

1014
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 2: know how to feel of it. I don't know where

1015
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: to put this one. I struggle with this one.

1016
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 4: So you being there, Trey and having been to five

1017
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 4: games and it was long, it was hot. How do

1018
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 4: you feel about it considering that it's a short series,

1019
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 4: being that it's only five.

1020
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: When I think back on this series, what I remember

1021
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: is how hot it was in game one.

1022
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: That's the story. Yeah, that's kind of the biggest thing.

1023
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: And then, like I think it's game three, Boris dial

1024
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: gets the start for the Spurs, and as soon as

1025
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: that happened, Miami just couldn't keep up.

1026
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: They looked old and tired.

1027
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: The final three margins of victory for the Spurs were nineteen,

1028
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: twenty one and seventeen, Like they kind of unlocked how

1029
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: to play and Boris dl was awesome like guarding Lebron

1030
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: in that series as well, So I mean, at best,

1031
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: to me, this is like probably a seat here.

1032
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 2: That's right. I think I do have it there a

1033
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: pretty probably higher than some of our sees. But yeah,

1034
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 2: it is because you said it. It's Lebron cramping because

1035
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 2: of a malfunctioning air conditioning system. It's Kawhi like dominating

1036
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 2: the final three games. He shot like nearly seventy percent

1037
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 2: over the final three games. The guy couldn't miss. And

1038
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: then it was the beautiful basketball yeah, spurs and getting

1039
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: the revenge on what happened to hear.

1040
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 4: Before, right, right, They literally were waiting for twelve months

1041
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 4: to play them again. And how many casual fans did

1042
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 4: this series suck in? Just because it's played like a

1043
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 4: different sport. It felt like they were monumental and so

1044
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 4: that kind of makes me want to push it up

1045
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 4: because they played it so beautifully.

1046
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 3: That's basically the talk.

1047
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: The games were close at all, Yeah.

1048
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 4: They were just yeah, So that's that's why it's kind

1049
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 4: of like it's polarizing.

1050
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 3: Okay, but I'm fine, you know, fine, I would push

1051
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 3: it up a little bit. Probably.

1052
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 2: I'm a b man. I think be man at least

1053
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: even though it's five.

1054
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 3: Even though it's five, so I can take that argument.

1055
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we'll see, we'll see if we upgrade it.

1056
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 2: I think if I was ranking just like NBA champions,

1057
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: like just the team that won the Spurs would be

1058
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 2: much higher than the Righter. It would probably be more

1059
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: like an A tier team. But we're looking at the

1060
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: games and the moments and all that.

1061
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we got the new logos going.

1062
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: This is great. This is a great time for basketball.

1063
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: Twenty fifteen NBA Finals the Warriors when their first champion

1064
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: chip in Forever four to two over the Cavaliers MVP.

1065
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 1: It's Andrea Guadalo sixteen points per game, six rebounds, four assists,

1066
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: and a steal. This is known for being the first

1067
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: Warriors title of this era and Iguidala taking Steph Curry's MVP.

1068
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: Steph just a mere twenty six points per game, five

1069
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 1: rebounds and six assists.

1070
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 2: It's not enough. It's because he didn't he have like

1071
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 2: just two stinkers, right, It wasn't great. One brutal Steph Curry. Yeah,

1072
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: it really hurt his chances, and then I think he

1073
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 2: had another rough one. But otherwise he was totally fine. Yeah, yeah.

1074
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: Notable games in this one. Game one was a banger.

1075
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: Kyrie blocks Steph Curry's layup at the end of regulation,

1076
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: but then Kyrie hurts his knee in overtime. Warriors win

1077
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: that one, even though Lebron has forty four points on

1078
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: thirty eight shots to start in the finals. Game two

1079
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: another overtime game. Calvs win this one. Lebron goes for

1080
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 1: thirty nine points, sixteen rebounds, and eleven assists in fifty minutes. Also,

1081
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: Matthew Dellavedova plays him insane defense.

1082
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 2: He was a Curry in this series. Game three, Deli

1083
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 2: scores two points and then had to go get an

1084
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 2: ivy immediately after the game. I think they said he

1085
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: was like chugging coffee before the chase Steph Curry. Game four,

1086
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 2: Iguidala starts.

1087
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 1: For Andrew Boge kind of the beginning of small balls

1088
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 1: in the NBA, and then Game five, Curry scores seventeen

1089
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: of its thirty seven in the fourth quarter before they

1090
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:21,959
Speaker 1: close it out in Game six.

1091
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: So this one's it's like tarnished because of the Kyrie

1092
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 2: busted kneecap in Game one overtime. He's out for the

1093
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 2: rest of the series and then there was no Kevin

1094
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: Love either for the entire series the finals. I mean,

1095
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 2: he missed a ton of yeah yeah against that's in

1096
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 2: then and that serious, So like that knocks it down

1097
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 2: a little bit, and then I guess the igodoll apart

1098
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 2: is fun. He's like the first guy to ever win

1099
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 2: finals MVP not starting every single game of said finals

1100
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 2: because like you said, he came off the bench later.

1101
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,919
Speaker 2: He got seven of the eleven votes for Finals MVP.

1102
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 2: Lebron got the other four. Yeah, that one is a

1103
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: guy on the gonna win Finals MVP because it was

1104
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: six games, you know, it's getting there. Like maybe if

1105
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: it goes seven, I feel like maybe Lebron does win.

1106
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 2: It could be yeah, even in a loss. Let's say

1107
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: they have lost that. But I'm a be tier guy.

1108
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 4: I put it up to a because because it just

1109
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 4: changed the way teams playing their schemes.

1110
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 3: I mean, it changed the way teams play basketball to

1111
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 3: some degree.

1112
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 4: They would want to be the Warriors, spreading that ball

1113
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 4: around being the Warriors if they could, so I think

1114
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 4: that plays a part. It started off so well too,

1115
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 4: and it kind of petered off a little bit. But

1116
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 4: that OT game Kyrit That recovery block was fricking awesome.

1117
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 4: In Game two, another overtime game. I read first series

1118
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 4: that had the first two games go to overtime in

1119
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 4: NBA history, probably the last series now that I'm saying it.

1120
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 4: First two games, well, it's pretty great. Emon Schumpert came

1121
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 4: out of nowhere banging a three. This guy was was

1122
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 4: big for the Cavs, but they just didn't have enough

1123
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 4: without Kevin Love and Kyrie. So I understand it would

1124
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 4: drop a little bit because because they don't have their

1125
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 4: second and third best play.

1126
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, end up being a problem, But it didn't

1127
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 1: mean we get to see Lebron like hold the ball

1128
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: for twenty seconds on every position and they either score

1129
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: or set up mos golf Like was like probably close

1130
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 1: to twenty a game.

1131
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,760
Speaker 2: It was baking this series. I'm a tier as well. Okay,

1132
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 2: I just think, honestly, I think twenty ten is looking

1133
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 2: lonely up there. Okay, that's fine, put it behind that. Yeah.

1134
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,720
Speaker 1: Uh, twenty sixteen NBA Finals the Cast beat the Warriors

1135
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: four to three. Yeah, Lebron James MVP thirty points per game,

1136
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: eleven rebounds, nine assists, two steals, and two blocks. This

1137
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: one's pretty forgettable, though, known for being the best finals

1138
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: of the two thousands, a three to one comeback over

1139
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: a seventy three win team and Lebron winning in Cleveland.

1140
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 2: S Tier. Yeah it is, Yeah, it is. A lot

1141
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 2: of these games were yawners though, sure they were, they were,

1142
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 2: but man, there's so many like then we get to

1143
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 2: Game four, and that's when things got spicy because Game four,

1144
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 2: that's a monster Curry game. But that's the game where

1145
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 2: Draymond Green is assessed after the flagrant foul one for

1146
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 2: contacting Lebron's nuts unnecessary retaliatory. This was huge because then

1147
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 2: Draymond had the four flagrant foul points in the playoffs

1148
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 2: and he was suspended for Game five and he had

1149
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 2: to watch that from the Oakland Coliseum that in a

1150
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 2: luxury box. Oh yeah, And that's in game five when

1151
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 2: Lebron and Kyrie score forty one each and suddenly it's like,

1152
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 2: oh my god, what's going on here? Game six, Steph

1153
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 2: fouls out, chucks his mouthpiece, ejected like he couldn't stay

1154
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 2: on the bench, get out of here. And then Game

1155
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 2: seven was an awesome game, one of the best games

1156
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 2: of all time. Probably how close it was how many

1157
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 2: lead changes and then the block and then the Kyrie shot.

1158
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 2: So I mean, look, there was some early honors, but

1159
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 2: my god, does it get awesome.

1160
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, one in a series piece as it goes. It's

1161
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 4: hard not to put it up. But I love watching

1162
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 4: all those camera shots of where and how Lebron was

1163
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 4: punched in the testicles by Dramon.

1164
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 2: I mean you to zoom in.

1165
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 3: Cameras weren't as good back then it was.

1166
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 4: It was so fun. I was there in Game five.

1167
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 4: I was one of those dummies that thought, it's just

1168
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 4: one game without Draymond Green, you'll figure it out. Yeah,

1169
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 4: But then you watch you watch obviously the Kyrie and

1170
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 4: Lebron game, and you watch Steph not be able to

1171
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 4: beat Steph in Game five and towards the end of

1172
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,720
Speaker 4: that series and all that talk about maybe the seventy

1173
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 4: three and nine Warriors team did a little too much

1174
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 4: in the regular season and they're not preserved here. But

1175
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 4: it's it's it's it's too monument it's too memorable. Then

1176
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 4: we had the at the Halloween party mere months later.

1177
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 4: You know those little cakes, that's the cupcakes that said

1178
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 4: three to one.

1179
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool. Oh yeah, this is where we got

1180
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 2: I mean, this where we got the meme of Lebron

1181
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 2: with the headphones in. Is this this one?

1182
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah sure the NBA TV screenshot he's like

1183
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: basically never come back from the three one lead in

1184
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: the finals.

1185
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: You're sitting there with this head just look un bothered. Yeah, yeah, okay,

1186
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 2: this is the best. I mean yeah, top of the

1187
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 2: he's wearing an Undertaker shirt. Right. Yeah. Yeah. There's Ever

1188
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 2: Dead Dead Will Never Die.

1189
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: Twenty seventeen NBA Finals, Say it's another rematch. Warriors beat

1190
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 1: the Calves for to one. The MVP Kevin Durant thirty

1191
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: five points per game, eight rebounds, five assists, deal and

1192
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: the block. This is known for Katie's first title Finals MVP.

1193
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: Notable games are Katie hitting a dagger three with forty

1194
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 1: five seconds left in Game three, and Game four was

1195
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 1: the first Warriors loss of the postseason. They got completely.

1196
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 2: Blown out, but then they finished the postseason going sixteen

1197
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 2: and one. Pretty good. Yeah, this like it was fun.

1198
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 2: I remember like it was the rubber match with these

1199
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 2: two teams. Obviously, the Warriors had added Kevin Durant, so

1200
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 2: it was a little different. But they are coming in undefeated.

1201
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 2: The Calves steamrolled through the East. I mean I think

1202
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 2: they lost. I think they lost one game. They swept

1203
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 2: the Pacers, they swept our Raptors, and then they beat

1204
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 2: the Celtics in five, so they only had one loss

1205
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 2: to their name coming in, so that was awesome. But

1206
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 2: the Warriors were just like they were on another level

1207
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: once they out at Kevin Durant. I have this as

1208
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 2: a seatier because really is that Kevin Durant shot? Like

1209
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 2: you said, Then they lose a game where the Caves

1210
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 2: hit a million threes and it was twenty four threes

1211
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 2: or something like that. They went crazy odd. But then

1212
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: we had like a day or two of like, oh

1213
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 2: my god, can they do it again? Can they come

1214
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 2: back from three to one again? And it was like, no,

1215
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 2: they can't. They could not do it. No, no, So

1216
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 2: I'm a seat tier. It's not the worst, but it's

1217
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 2: down there.

1218
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 3: I'm a sea tier. You really don't excuse me.

1219
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 4: Remember much other than Grant hitting one shot, and you

1220
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 4: remember actually the Calves hitting shots in Game four when

1221
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 4: it could have been a sweep, but they came out

1222
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 4: and bombed. You said, twenty four threes, yeah, seven for

1223
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 4: Kyrie six for Kevin Love and Jerr Smith.

1224
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 3: Of course he had five. Those are the memorable moments,

1225
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 3: is not they can't be up there not that many.

1226
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 2: No, it's a different series if the Calves hold on

1227
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 2: and win Game three, because they were up six with

1228
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 2: like two and a half to go and then the

1229
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 2: Warriors just ripped off like an eleven ozer run and

1230
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 2: that was it. Then they're up three to zero and like, okay,

1231
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 2: yeah they lost Game four and they finally lost the game,

1232
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 2: but it was just like a matter of time by

1233
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 2: that point.

1234
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: Not beating them four times straight, which is, you know,

1235
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: too bad for the Caves because I think they would

1236
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: probably say twenty seventeen was our best team, like like

1237
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: you're saying they destroyed them.

1238
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 2: They were awesome, but they didn't have two MVPs. They

1239
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 2: had one.

1240
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: No twenty eighteen NBA Finals on four. Fortunately the teams

1241
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: are the same, for the Warriors continue to have two

1242
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:05,919
Speaker 1: MVPs and the Caves only had.

1243
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,479
Speaker 2: Well and Warriors sweep this one four zero MVP.

1244
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant twenty nine points per game, eleven rebound, seven assists,

1245
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: a steal, and two blocks per game.

1246
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 2: This is known for JR.

1247
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: Smith, not taking a layup after grabbing an offensive rebound,

1248
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 1: and that's about it.

1249
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 2: I know. So it feels like an automatic D tier.

1250
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,959
Speaker 2: But I do wonder if that j R. Smith Game

1251
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 2: one brain fart gets it just up to seatier because

1252
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 2: Lebron had fifty one, then goes back and by all

1253
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 2: reports punches the whiteboard. Yep, and then we learned like

1254
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 2: maybe like broke something in his hand. Obviously they kept

1255
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 2: that this secret. I mean, that's pretty memorable, that's for sure,

1256
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 2: but the basketball is not. Because the Warriors were even

1257
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 2: like better than this Cavs team was the year before.

1258
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 2: But I don't know. It's so it's D or C.

1259
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 2: But Carol what we put it.

1260
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny going through these game ones because Lebron

1261
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 4: is known as a guy who feels out game ones,

1262
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 4: but then you see his game one performance fifty one.

1263
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 3: He just wants to He just wants to close.

1264
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 4: Jarr Smith was obviously thinking that, obviously, I say obviously,

1265
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 4: but I don't know.

1266
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 3: I listened to these j R.

1267
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 4: Smith interviews wondering what was he thinking, and I guess

1268
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 4: in the back of his mind he thought George Hill

1269
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 4: was hitting a free throw and they were leading the game.

1270
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're winning.

1271
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 2: I think he just thought it was tied, right, It

1272
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,439
Speaker 2: was the opposite. He didn't think it was tied.

1273
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, because he missed that second one and he

1274
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 3: thought it was over.

1275
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 2: I don't And I think he said he thought that

1276
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 2: the Calves were going to call time out. Yeah.

1277
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, George Hill kind of gets off, yes

1278
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,439
Speaker 1: the hook a little bit here because he did miss

1279
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: game winning free throws that would have just won the game.

1280
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 2: He wouldn't have even had this. J R.

1281
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 4: Smith think he hit the first one, and then I

1282
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 4: guess j R. Smith thinks, man, we're winning this game.

1283
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 4: I guess, yeah, I don't know, because he missed. This

1284
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 4: is the second one. Jerry Smith grabs ball, but no

1285
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 4: time out. Yeah, photo iconic and then four stress and

1286
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 4: he's just furious.

1287
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 2: I just what I love about is like Lebron New

1288
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 2: right then and there, when either the miss free throw

1289
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 2: or Jr. Like not knowing what to do, He's like, well, damn,

1290
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 2: we're done. We lost. Like I can't do much more.

1291
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 2: I gave you fifty one. That was the one, and

1292
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 2: uh you know that's it. That's why he's all frustrated.

1293
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, sweet so where are we putting it?

1294
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: I mean, Lebron, it's Lebron's best finals game, and it's

1295
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: a crazy ending. But also, like I was there for

1296
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: Game four, you know we would do the go in

1297
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: the locker room and catch the celebrations, and even the

1298
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: Warriors were like, nice.

1299
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 2: This was easy.

1300
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Steph Cury just eating popcorn out on there the

1301
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: court afterwards.

1302
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 4: Oh they won by thirty three points. Excuse me, my

1303
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 4: math is my math is off? Hold on a second.

1304
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 4: That was a bombing Yeah, g yeah, it was a

1305
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 4: twenty three in Cleveland. It's just twenty by twenty three points.

1306
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 2: I just also say we came into this series not

1307
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,919
Speaker 2: thinking that the Cats had much of a chance, which

1308
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 2: is why that Game one was like, oh my god,

1309
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 2: he almost did it, Like we were. Everyone was heavily

1310
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 2: like the words are just too good man too. Yeah, yeah, night.

1311
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 2: So at the top of the deed, top of the

1312
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 2: d Lebron, we love your Game one. We love it

1313
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 2: so much. What year are we at twenty nineteen? Oh yeah,

1314
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 2: twenty ninety. Anything happened, Hey, oh, Cad the Toronto Raptors.

1315
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 2: I've seen the Toronto Raptors here won the NBA Championship

1316
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen beat the Warriors four to two. MVP

1317
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard.

1318
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: For the Raptors interesting thirty points per game, ten rebounds,

1319
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,439
Speaker 1: four assists, two steals, and a block and a half

1320
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: per game. This is known as being the Raptors first championship.

1321
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: Lebron becoming the second guy to win Finals MVP on

1322
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: two different teams.

1323
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Kuhi after Lebron.

1324
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: And then also, if we're being quite honest, Kevin Durant

1325
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: tearing his achilles and Klay Thompson tearing his acl were

1326
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: major storylines in this one. Game one, Pascal Siakam has

1327
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: thirty two points, eight rebounds. Huge game in the first

1328
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: finals game played outside of America ever. Game four, Fred

1329
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: van Vliet bleeding from the face YEP. Game five, Kevin

1330
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: Durant comes back, gets hurt in the second quarter, but

1331
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: the Splash brother just go crazy in the last three minutes.

1332
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: I think it's three threes between Curry and Tomas.

1333
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 2: Why did you call a time out? Nick?

1334
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: He didn't want to celebrate into the locker room, he said,

1335
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: go to game six. Kyle Lowry is gonna hit eleven

1336
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: points in the first two minutes. Klay Thompson did tear

1337
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: his ACL in that game as he was starting to

1338
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: heat up. Yeah, bold moments for him to go to

1339
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: the free throw line even and try and knock him down.

1340
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, Raptors pull it out in six games. Okay,

1341
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 2: we're obviously biased with this one. Yeah, right, you know

1342
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 2: we were there for game five. I was in Toronto

1343
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 2: for Game six the night they win. Obviously it's in Oakland,

1344
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 2: but we celebrate in Toronto all night long. One of

1345
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 2: my best nights of my life. Of him being honest

1346
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 2: was so much fun. But you did go through the

1347
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 2: injuries like it. It does suck. It's sort of a

1348
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 2: deflating part of this series. Katie obviously missing the first

1349
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 2: four and then coming back and then the whole I

1350
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 2: forgot Klay Thompson was injured earlier in the series, and

1351
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 2: then obviously it gets injured right at the end of it.

1352
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 2: So that does suck. But the games were close, A

1353
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 2: lot of the games were close. They were pretty competitive.

1354
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 2: I didn't remember how much Boogey Cousins there was back yeah, right,

1355
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 2: right right, So I do have it a beat here.

1356
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, people outside of Toronto, they well, they remember.

1357
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 2: The series well, they remember it just because of Katie's

1358
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 2: injury es fortunately.

1359
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because it's injury, not because of the basketball.

1360
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 2: I mean he was banged up.

1361
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1362
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: I think Festus is zeally is even in this one,

1363
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: like this was the end of the Warriors Kevin durant

1364
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: era and they were fighting with each other, and they

1365
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: played one hundred games per season for the previous three

1366
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: seasons including now this one number four, and it just

1367
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: started adding up.

1368
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 2: You can tell. Now Raptors fans like to say, we

1369
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 2: would have beaten a fully healthy Warriors team. How confident

1370
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 2: they were. That's true, and maybe this case. I mean

1371
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 2: they won a lot of road games, won.

1372
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 4: Game run games, right, they won Game one, Pascal Siakam

1373
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 4: thirty two points.

1374
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 2: I thought the Reps had. I think it's the only

1375
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 2: home win that series. Yeah, Raps started. The Raps had

1376
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 2: home court. Event they may have been in the lower

1377
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 2: seed somehow, but anyway, because.

1378
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 4: Of the record, they lost Game two. Steve Carr always

1379
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 4: says game two, that's a series that the home team

1380
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 4: can lose because they know they get they win Game one,

1381
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 4: they're a little comfortable.

1382
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 2: But yes, that's the shocking part was Raps winning Game

1383
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 2: three and four. Yeah, yeah, oh.

1384
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, yes, and no Clay for one of those.

1385
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 4: The box and one was invented, and everybody talking about

1386
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 4: that as a defense. Watching Kevin Durant come back in

1387
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 4: Game five, were there and he's on the floor warming up,

1388
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 4: he looks like Kevin Durant and he looks good and

1389
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 4: he starts banging like, yeah, he had eleven points in

1390
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 4: that first quarter, played nearly ten minutes. He was playing,

1391
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 4: and he was banging home threes and then he gets injured.

1392
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 4: The play runs the other way, and the entire arena

1393
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 4: is going crazy. Are they going crazy because Kevin Durant

1394
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 4: is down or because they're running back the other way?

1395
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 4: There's the controversy that started at all. It does suck, Yes,

1396
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 4: that Clay had to this a game, and he was

1397
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 4: injured that entire series, most of that series, and that's

1398
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 4: why the box in one was invented. But yeah, for

1399
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 4: Raptors fans seen Kyle Lowry do it in that first quarter. Yeah,

1400
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 4: everybody else I think.

1401
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I like a B I'm a B

1402
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 2: man on this. That's right. They were close games. I'm

1403
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 2: telling you they were for sure. Remember how hot that

1404
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 2: poutine was they brought us out.

1405
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: Rainy that they brought us out, I don't know, five

1406
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: hundred degrees kelvin my mouth.

1407
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 4: My tongue was still burning because you literally have to

1408
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 4: eat it because we're on TV.

1409
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you got it. Yeah, we're on live TV.

1410
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: Here's a metal container, the hottest thing you've ever held

1411
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 1: in your life.

1412
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 2: That was awesome. It was kind of like torture but

1413
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 2: also a good bit at the same time. So how

1414
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 2: do you feel about this one? We're obviously the Rapper.

1415
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 2: I think B is good. Okay, yeah, I think B

1416
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 2: is good.

1417
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: I think I think unfortunately, I'm Raptors colored on this

1418
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 1: head as well, because if you're not a Raptors fan,

1419
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 1: the first thing you think of is Katie.

1420
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, injuries for sure, but it's hanging in the acc

1421
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 2: so who cares. That's right, that's right. Twenty twenty NBA Finals,

1422
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 2: the Lakers beat the Heat four to two. MVP was

1423
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 2: Lebron James.

1424
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: He averaged thirty points per game, twelve rebounds, eight assists

1425
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: in a steal per game. This is known for being

1426
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 1: a bubble championship and Lebron winning it with the Lakers.

1427
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: I think you would also say, this is known.

1428
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 2: For maybe the biggest playoff Jimmy series. In Game three, Jimmy.

1429
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 1: Butler goes for forty points, eleven rebounds, and thirteen assists.

1430
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: In Game four, eighty hits a backbreaking three pointer. In

1431
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: Game five, Jimmy Butler goes for thirty five points, twelve rebounds,

1432
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: eleven assists, and this is like him on.

1433
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 2: The edge of the scorers table. I think he played all.

1434
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 1: But fifty seconds in this game, guarded Lebron for the

1435
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: majority of it. And then game six, Alex Cruso gets

1436
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: the start for Dwight Howard and the Lakers closed things

1437
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: out pretty easily over Miami.

1438
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 2: This one, unfortunately, had injuries play a part two, right,

1439
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 2: being loy Bio Goran Dragic who was pretty important to

1440
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 2: that team. And then it felt like it was Jimmy

1441
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 2: against the world, and that's what we got the meme

1442
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 2: and him all like hunched over, gasping for air. Yeah,

1443
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 2: in the bubbles like this is played in September, played

1444
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 2: in September. We basically October, excuse me. It started September thirtieth,

1445
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 2: and obviously went through the first couple of weeks in October,

1446
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 2: which is a weird thing to wrap your head around

1447
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 2: at the at the sports complex there and in Florida.

1448
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 2: So I guess does that make it more memorable less memorable?

1449
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but I have it pretty low. I do.

1450
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 2: I have it as a seat tier.

1451
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 4: Even though it's Jimmy's biggest finals. For sure, you're seeing

1452
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 4: that forty point performance. I kind of can remove myself

1453
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 4: from the homerism of the Raptors and I exactly I

1454
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 4: go to the exact same route that you'd be with

1455
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 4: the Warriors here for the Miami Heat because Bam missed

1456
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 4: part of the series, Goran Drag missed most of the series,

1457
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 4: and those guys were really really important and it still

1458
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 4: went six because they Jimmy's had a great series.

1459
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was great, and.

1460
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 4: We all wondered after two games Anthony Davis was balling

1461
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 4: thirty four and thirty two in the first two. Maybe

1462
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 4: this is Anthony Davis MVP coming. But although it was great,

1463
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 4: I mean see for me, I guess.

1464
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 2: Memorable moment Rondo celebrating with his son on the floor.

1465
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's pretty fun. It was cool. I did

1466
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 2: write down. I didn't know this. I saw this in

1467
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 2: doing some research the Lakers became the first and only

1468
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 2: team in NBA history to be undefeated in a season

1469
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 2: when leading entering the fourth quarter. They went fifty seven

1470
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 2: to zero in the regular season in playoffs when they

1471
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 2: were up going into the fourth. It's crazy to me.

1472
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, Lakers fans definitely contend that even if this wasn't

1473
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: played in the Bubble, that they had a pretty good

1474
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: shot the champion.

1475
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 2: Surely they did.

1476
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 1: But you know, getting a couple of months off is

1477
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: pretty key for Lebron and Ad two guys.

1478
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 2: We get banged up all the time.

1479
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 1: I think eighty also shot like fifty percent on jumpers

1480
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 1: and in this series and in the bubble, it's like

1481
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 1: everybody was.

1482
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 2: Shooting crazy percentages in the bubble.

1483
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was played there and the Lakers did it.

1484
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 2: I do love the of like whether this was a

1485
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 2: more difficult championship to win, as Lebron tries to tell us,

1486
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 2: or in the opposite, it's like, no, it's actually much easier.

1487
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 2: You're not. First off, you're not playing in Rhode Arenas

1488
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 2: where there's twenty thousand people jeering at you. And then

1489
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 2: you remove the travel part and maybe distraction part, like

1490
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 2: you really are just trapped in a bubble. I don't

1491
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 2: know interested to hear what people think which side you

1492
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 2: fall on of that debate, But anyway.

1493
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 4: I I think I well, I'd love to hear heat

1494
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 4: fans and how they feel about it if they thought

1495
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 4: they would have won. I'm sure they would have felt

1496
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 4: the way that they would have won if they had

1497
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 4: everybody healthy, because that's important. That was important in this series,

1498
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 4: even though it's boring to talk about.

1499
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 2: So you're a beat here, you said, no, I mean,

1500
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 2: I'm a seat tier.

1501
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 4: I just want to forget that time of our lives. Really,

1502
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 4: I mean that's a part of it.

1503
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 1: Got a big face coffee out of this, Yeah, Tyler

1504
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: hero sneering right, like.

1505
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah right. What else was going on in the bubble?

1506
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 2: I mean, the guys were fishing. Ben Simmons caught a bass,

1507
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 2: just threw it and it hit the hit the walk

1508
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 2: away and thrown in the ocean. Coach like had a

1509
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 2: cut on his head from playing pickleball or something. I

1510
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 2: was about to say pickleball was a hot topic. The

1511
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 2: referees were playing.

1512
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 1: Maybe, I don't know. Weird times man, very weird. Twenty

1513
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 1: twenty one NBA Finals slightly less weird. The Bucks beat

1514
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: the Suns four to two. Jannis Kumpo was your MVP.

1515
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:24,439
Speaker 1: Averaged thirty five points per game, thirteen rebounds and five

1516
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 1: assists with a steal and two blocks. This is known

1517
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 1: for Yannis winning a title yep, the Sun's going up

1518
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 1: two oh and then losing four straight. I think there's

1519
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 1: also six forty point games in this well. Booker has three,

1520
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 1: Booker has two, and Chris Middleton has won. Notable games

1521
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 1: I would say is Game four. Middleton has forty scores

1522
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 1: ten straight to tie the series two to two. Booker

1523
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: has forty two in that game. That's also the same

1524
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 1: game Yannis blocked the alleup to DeAndre eight In Game five,

1525
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: has Drew Holliday stealing the ball getting it up to

1526
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: Jannis for the allup, an incredible play In the game six,

1527
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 1: one of the better closeout games you'll ever see. Yanna's

1528
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 1: fifty points, four thirteen rebounds, five blocks, seventeen of nineteen.

1529
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 2: At the line. Oh and this is when everybody was

1530
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 2: calming him down. Oh yeah, yeah, Yes. This one is

1531
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 2: a polarizing series. I remember we talked about this last year.

1532
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 2: I feel like some people either think this one's like

1533
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 2: sort of underrated and like, as you just went through

1534
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 2: man big performances obviously, some big game players, some competitive games,

1535
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 2: some memorable moments, and then other people are like, now

1536
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 2: this one sucked, dude. People are like some people are like,

1537
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 2: maybe it's because of the markets. I don't know if

1538
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 2: that played a part in Milwaukee and Thieves. But I'm

1539
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 2: high on it. I'm in the previous camp. I like it.

1540
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 2: I have it as a B tier. I mean, it

1541
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,679
Speaker 2: almost was flirting with the idea of an A tier, okay,

1542
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 2: but I ultimately went I like high B because this

1543
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 2: was a great one and yeah, some great plays streaming.

1544
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 4: I'm extremely high because we didn't know if you understated

1545
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 4: Google would be playing in this good point. I mean,

1546
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 4: he got injured in the Eastern Conference finals, missed the

1547
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 4: last two games with that hyper extended knet. It looked

1548
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 4: like it bent backwards, but that guy fought through it.

1549
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 4: And then he still loses the first two games even

1550
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 4: though he's ball one, and then comes back and wins

1551
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 4: all for that block of deandred.

1552
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 2: And is just you know, that's cool.

1553
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 4: And then and then you drop fifty in a game

1554
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:10,879
Speaker 4: sealer and you sit.

1555
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 3: In that seat by the court and just chill out

1556
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 3: and just you know, soak it all in. So to me,

1557
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:19,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I y, I mean yanis fan obviously.

1558
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 4: Uh So it's high if I understand why it's not

1559
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 4: an S here, because I think it's part of the

1560
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 4: part of the just the media and and just the markets.

1561
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 3: It just wasn't big enough, like it just it didn't

1562
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 3: hit it.

1563
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 2: I guess we did. We had fans obviously in attendance

1564
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 2: for these games. Yeah, but maybe was it limited at

1565
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 2: least at least during the regular season. Maybe it was

1566
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 2: maybe yeah, right, right, right? So okay, so where do

1567
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 2: you put it? He got it sound like I'm maybe

1568
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 2: high B. So you're the designing.

1569
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 1: Interesting when I'm looking at the grid, I think this

1570
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 1: should be a high B and we should move two

1571
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: thousand and eight up to the Asier.

1572
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 2: Personally, okay, that would be okay. I do think there's

1573
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 2: a debate here about which one is better this finals

1574
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 2: Bucks over Suns in six or the next one that

1575
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 2: we're gonna get two Warriors over Celtics in six. Also,

1576
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 2: I think those are pretty damn close. They're both good.

1577
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would say D tier though for

1578
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 1: the logos for eighteen to twenty one NBA.

1579
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 2: Finals, The Square NBA Finals presented by YouTube TV.

1580
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 1: That looks so bad. Yeah, yeah, they were not chicken

1581
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 1: with that one. Twenty twenty two NBA Finals. I think

1582
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 1: it'll rate highly. The Warriors beat the Celtics sport to two.

1583
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 1: Steph Curry wins his first Finals MVP thirty one points

1584
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 1: per game, six rebounds, five assists, and a couple of steals.

1585
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 1: This is known for Curry's Finals MVP, the Warriors getting

1586
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 1: back to the championship after people thought maybe they were done.

1587
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 1: I think he would also say this is known for

1588
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 1: f you Draymond chance. At Game three, Draymond has a

1589
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 1: terrible game in Boston. Thirty four minutes, he files out

1590
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 1: with two points, four rebounds, and three assists.

1591
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 2: They were in his head.

1592
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 1: He eventually had to be like an offense defense sub

1593
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:57,759
Speaker 1: with Jordan Poole.

1594
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody of Avenue any you could think of. Game four, though,

1595
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 2: is Steph Curry's kind of crowning achievement in the Finals.

1596
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 2: He scores forty three points, has ten rebounds, takes over

1597
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,759
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. I remember him hitting a floater

1598
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 2: that I was convinced was from twenty feet away.

1599
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: He shot as like a twelve footer play by play,

1600
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 1: but it felt monumental. Yeah at the time.

1601
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 2: Game five also a huge Andrew Wiggins game. Twenty six points,

1602
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 2: thirteen boards. Yeah, Andrew Wigans series. He really was. He

1603
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 2: was the second Banana and you want this complete series

1604
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 2: is a good series. Not amazing. Again, this is why

1605
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 2: I sort of like pairro it with that Buck Sun's one.

1606
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 2: It feels like right on par two to that series

1607
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 2: with me, like really good moments, like the Curry game

1608
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 2: is huge, like that Game four is like one of

1609
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 2: his most legendary games. They were down, they were down

1610
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:46,640
Speaker 2: like four or five late. They just ripped off a

1611
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 2: ten or run to suddenly tie the series. So wherever,

1612
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 2: where where do we end up on our last one?

1613
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 2: We had that in the high B high bat So

1614
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 2: I have that, I have this. I'm gonna put this

1615
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 2: just ahead of it. So I guess I have it

1616
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 2: back of the eight tier or you can put it

1617
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 2: obviously ahead of it and B if.

1618
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 3: You want, Yeah, I'm there.

1619
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 4: Because this was Curry's most notorious moment in an NBA finals,

1620
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,600
Speaker 4: even though he won four championships. This Game four, that

1621
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 4: forty three points was the big one. Game four. It's

1622
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 4: an important finals game, and it's when that other team thinks, yeah,

1623
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 4: we could do this, and then you go and steal

1624
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 4: it from them. So that's why it's it's pretty high

1625
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 4: for me because it just made up for it.

1626
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 3: I mean, you made up. Curry made up for so

1627
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 3: much in his career.

1628
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 1: This is just this is the button, big legacy series

1629
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 1: for sure. I would go a as well.

1630
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 2: Okay, thank that's fine.

1631
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 1: Yeah he twoer love it and we got some script

1632
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 1: back in our finals.

1633
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 2: Good stuff.

1634
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty three NBA Finals, The Nuggets beat the Heat

1635
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 1: for one. Nikola Jokic is your MVP, his first title,

1636
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 1: the Nuggets first title. Jokic averaged thirty points, fourteen rebounds,

1637
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 1: seven assists, a steal, and a block. This is known

1638
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: for Jokic balling out certainly, and also the Heat making

1639
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 1: the finals as a play. In team Notable Games, Game two,

1640
01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 1: Miami crazy comeback. Denver still almost comes back to steal it,

1641
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,799
Speaker 1: but Miami takes one on the road. In Game three,

1642
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 1: Jokic and Murray become the first players to both have

1643
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:09,759
Speaker 1: thirty point triple doubles in a game. Thirty two, twenty

1644
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 1: one and ten for Jokich, thirty four ten and ten.

1645
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 2: For Jamal Murray.

1646
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 1: In Game five playoff, Jimmy scores thirteen straight points in

1647
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter to take a one point lead with

1648
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 1: two minutes left, but Bruce Brown gets a tip in

1649
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 1: Contavious Calbell, Pope makes a steal, makes some free throws,

1650
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:25,839
Speaker 1: and then Bruce Brown knocks down some more free throws

1651
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 1: to close out the heat. Where do you guys rank

1652
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three finals see tire Yeah I got

1653
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: it pretty low.

1654
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember a lot.

1655
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 4: I was there, and it was and it was a

1656
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 4: fantastic run for the Denver Nuggets and Miami stealing Game

1657
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 4: two after looking like they weren't gonna win the series

1658
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 4: in game Game one was was fun.

1659
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 2: But then they just they were too small.

1660
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 3: They're too small, and somehow they stole Game two.

1661
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 4: But then the rest of the series just man, it

1662
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 4: was just as Even though you mentioned those numbers for

1663
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 4: Jokicic and Jamal Murray, it's not it's not something I

1664
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 4: really remember all that much. I remember putting on one

1665
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 4: of those monster hats from a fan.

1666
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 2: Big hell big, I remember that. Yeah, that was we

1667
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 2: were we live on playbacks.

1668
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, sir, Yeah, those giant hats he'd expected to

1669
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:24,599
Speaker 5: be really, so it's not it's not really the moments

1670
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 5: for Yoki Jar, you know, beating the Lakers, the shot

1671
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 5: over Anthony Davis, those moments are more than what happened Miami.

1672
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 2: He just dominated, and then Murray was great. And then

1673
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 2: I do remember like Michael Porter Junior had some moments

1674
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 2: here there, Bruce Brown had some moments here there, good

1675
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 2: old Cowboy himself, Christian Brown even as well. But like Aaron,

1676
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 2: thank you, Like everybody contributed, and like they were the

1677
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 2: Heat were the eighth seed. I mean I know they

1678
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 2: were actually the seventh seed but lost the first game

1679
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:52,759
Speaker 2: of the play in and then became the eighth seed,

1680
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 2: and that was cool, Like that was a pretty magical run,

1681
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 2: being like what only the second team since the Knicks

1682
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 2: in ninety nine to get there at that lower seed.

1683
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 2: But once they got there, Denver was just too damn

1684
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 2: good after what they had to do to come out

1685
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:06,679
Speaker 2: of that West. So I just have it low. Yeah,

1686
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:08,679
Speaker 2: and again we're not judging the Nuggets as a champion.

1687
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 2: We're judging the invitality of the finals. Yeah, exactly, And

1688
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 2: I think this is the one where Tyler Hero has

1689
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 2: a broken hand. It's like, will you play? Will and

1690
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 2: he play?

1691
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 1: We were like tracking which bucket had he's wearing on

1692
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 1: the sideline. They finally activate him for game five and

1693
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 1: then don't play.

1694
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 2: He didn't play. It's weird. Yeah, there is somebody's saying

1695
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 2: a sea boy, I got a sea boy.

1696
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that's fair. Yeah, wherever wherever.

1697
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 2: You want to slott it in. I'm not. I'm really

1698
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 2: just throwing them in there. Now. That was organizing. I

1699
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 2: feel pretty good about this.

1700
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four NBA Finals, the Celtics beat the MAVs

1701
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 1: four to one. Jalen Brown was the MVP twenty one points,

1702
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 1: five rebounds, five assists, a steal and a half and

1703
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 1: a block per game. I think you would say this

1704
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 1: is known for Brown and Tatum getting over the hump

1705
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 1: yep after several conference finals and earlier finals appearance. Porzingis's

1706
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 1: return I think was a major storyline. And then Luka

1707
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 1: Doncic made his Finals debut for the MAVs. He's on

1708
01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 1: a different team. Now, have you heard notable games? Game one,

1709
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 1: Chris Porzingis comes back after injury, goes crazy coming off

1710
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 1: the bench twenty points, six rebounds, three blocks. Game three,

1711
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 1: the Celtics tried to blow a lead, as they had

1712
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 1: done during this era, twenty two to to run in

1713
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter proNT of the MAVs, but Celtics end

1714
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 1: up pulling it out anyways. Game four, the MAVs win

1715
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 1: by thirty eight, and then in Game six, Jason Tatum

1716
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 1: has thirty one, eight and eleven assists in a closeout

1717
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 1: game and the people said that's not good enough for MVP.

1718
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Game five, Game five because this was a gentleman's sweep,

1719
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 2: as it was a perfect gentleman's sweep. Here you go,

1720
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 2: you take game four, We'll take Game five dd here whoa,

1721
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 2: oh yeah. We were moved on from this finals in

1722
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 2: like forty eight hours. We so much about this being

1723
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 2: a juiceless finals. It just they were. It was not

1724
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 2: a lot to it. I mean, it was MVP. It

1725
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 2: was like that was cool. That was like the story.

1726
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 2: Oh wow'd be right. I just I hate to say it.

1727
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 2: We like I remember as timely, like what's going on here?

1728
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 2: Was there nothing from this?

1729
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 4: So I gotta go DH. Nico Harrison agrees, Man, they're

1730
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 4: just not good enough to win.

1731
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:06,839
Speaker 2: Really it was. It was juiceless.

1732
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 4: It was like, even though I was at the previous

1733
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 4: finals before that against with the Nuggets and the heat

1734
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:15,559
Speaker 4: and that was just it was a quick five gamer

1735
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 4: as well, this one was far lower. It just there

1736
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 4: wasn't enough competition the Celtics routed really yeah, I.

1737
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 1: Agree now that I'm thinking back of Like the most

1738
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 1: memorable thing was Brian Windhorse being.

1739
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 2: Like, Luca's over there with the losers. Remember that calling

1740
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 2: him out.

1741
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:31,719
Speaker 1: That was the beginning of the end for Luka Doncic

1742
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 1: in Dallas. Kind of incredibly well, no, like Windhorse did

1743
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 1: a thing on ESPN, like his hit postgame was kind

1744
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 1: of like the Mavericks don't think Luca can play defense.

1745
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 1: He doesn't play both sides at the court. So where

1746
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 1: is he right now? He's over there on the loser's side. Yeah, no,

1747
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 1: I mean the MAVs got smoked in this series.

1748
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 2: Smoked.

1749
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were like the whole year where like Christap's

1750
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,640
Speaker 1: for zingis, this guy is the absolute X factor for

1751
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 1: this team. And then he was injured for the entire

1752
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 1: playoffs and it didn't matter.

1753
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 2: It did not, but but it came back.

1754
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 3: Cool.

1755
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:10,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a cool moment Game one for sure. Yeah,

1756
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 2: it's it's a classic. You said that game too, where

1757
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 2: the Dallas Matters made that massive run to get back

1758
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 2: into it. It's like another one. It's like they win

1759
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 2: that game. It's a completely different series maybe, but still

1760
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:22,680
Speaker 2: the Celtics pulled it out, and then they won Game three,

1761
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:24,719
Speaker 2: no problem, and then game four it's like who cares

1762
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 2: here you go, you take one and then we'll take

1763
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 2: game five. Yeah, yeah, it's low. I'm sorry, just sorry.

1764
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five NBA Finals they're ongoing right now. The

1765
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 2: Thunder have a three to two lead over the Pacers.

1766
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 2: We don't have an MVP yet.

1767
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 1: What's it known for Tyree's Halliburton hitting a game winner

1768
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 1: in game one? Being a small market finals? Yep, getting

1769
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 1: to say fifty four from Trey Ball is od shooting

1770
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:49,680
Speaker 1: hang pulse. Notable games are the OKC collapse, Halle game

1771
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 1: winner and Game one. I think you would also say

1772
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 1: thus far. Game four shake just Alexander fourth quarter is

1773
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 1: a notable moment, and then Game five is the Jada game.

1774
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 2: Where does this now? The basketball has been amazing. The

1775
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 2: ball has been amazing. Four out of five games I

1776
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 2: think have been Bangers. Yeah, it's a little TBD obviously.

1777
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 2: I mean if it goes seven, I we go seven

1778
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 2: and we get another amazing shot or two, Like it

1779
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 2: could could knock on the door of an S tire.

1780
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 2: But I have it right now at lower end, e

1781
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 2: tier and that's you know again, I could wrap up

1782
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 2: here on Thursday night or get a game seven, And

1783
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 2: I just think the basketball has been so awesome and

1784
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,639
Speaker 2: they've played harder than I can ever remember two teams playing.

1785
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 2: It's been cool with the depth factor we you know,

1786
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 2: I even like we're getting some buzz now with like

1787
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,879
Speaker 2: there's a late push for people saying has Joan Williams

1788
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 2: got himself into the finals MVP conversation. I mean he

1789
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 2: would need one or two more Banger games because SGA's

1790
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 2: numbers are stupid, So I don't think he's gonna do that.

1791
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 2: But there's a lot, there's a lot to it. I

1792
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 2: just love the basketball, so I'm high on it. Eightier.

1793
01:19:56,200 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like the specificity a lower end. Okay, I

1794
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 4: mean it's I'm with you. It's one of those memorable

1795
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:05,520
Speaker 4: series for sure.

1796
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 2: With the chance still got a chance, who knows, we

1797
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 2: got a change, We get a game seven on Sunday

1798
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:13,879
Speaker 2: if we get there, and you know, we need Haliburton

1799
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:15,800
Speaker 2: to maybe be healthy for Game six. But we'll break

1800
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 2: all that down tomorrow. But I like where we have that.

1801
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 2: I think it's good. We got a nice distribution here.

1802
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 2: Actuat well done.

1803
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:25,679
Speaker 1: All right, our final rankings, we'll start at the bottom

1804
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:29,799
Speaker 1: our D tier. It's twenty twenty four NBA Finals, twenty eighteen,

1805
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven and two thousand and two NBA Finals.

1806
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 1: Some sweeps down there, yeah, not a surprise. And our

1807
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 1: C tier second from the bottom. We've got the twenty

1808
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:44,719
Speaker 1: fourteen Spurs winning. I'm sorry something they're so small, twenty

1809
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 1: twenty three finals as well, the Nuggets, followed by the

1810
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 1: Lakers winning in twenty twenty, the Lakers winning in two

1811
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 1: thousand and nine, the Pistons winning in two thousand and fourth.

1812
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 1: That one seems a little undervalued to me. Whatever, twenty

1813
01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:00,599
Speaker 1: seventeen Warriors and the two thousand and three Spur winning

1814
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 1: are our seatier. The B tier twenty twenty one, two

1815
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 1: thousand and five, twenty nineteen, twenty twenty twelve, two thousand

1816
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:11,599
Speaker 1: and six, and two thousand and one. The Allen Iverson

1817
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 1: really carrying some way there for two thousand and one,

1818
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 1: the eight tier we have the twenty ten, twenty fifteen,

1819
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, twenty twenty two and twenty twenty

1820
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:24,719
Speaker 1: five NBA finals and then our ast here the best

1821
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:29,520
Speaker 1: finals of the two thousands include twenty sixteen, twenty thirteen.

1822
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 2: And twenty eleven. Yeah, inarguable, I would say on those ones, yeh, yeah,

1823
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 2: those are those are good ones. You said, Yeah, you said,

1824
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 2: we have calves, we have heat, and we have Mavericks

1825
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 2: caves heat, MAVs. I like it. Yeah. And after saying that,

1826
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 2: like you said, did we go too high on that

1827
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 2: on the iverson Game one performance against the Lakers during

1828
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 2: their three peat? Maybe? And then we said the four

1829
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 2: pistons one we had a little lower than maybe fours

1830
01:21:56,479 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 2: in the Sea tier. Yep, you're not rewatching it telling

1831
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 2: you you see, isn't that different?

1832
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 3: Yeahah, yeah, we did well. All right, we got it

1833
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 3: very well.

1834
01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 2: Nailed it. You tell us, uh, what you agree with,

1835
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 2: what you disagree with, Let us know as you are

1836
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:11,640
Speaker 2: here in the stream team, let us know on the

1837
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 2: YouTube comments. You can tweet at us at no dunks

1838
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 2: ink if you want to do that as well. Heck,

1839
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 2: I'm sure you could fire up your own.

1840
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, search no dunks on tear maker.

1841
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 2: It'll pull up this very thing and you can use

1842
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 2: these exact same logos, these exact same sometimes crappy logos. Yeah.

1843
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 1: Once they make the font small and then write it

1844
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 1: in gold, it's impossible to see.

1845
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but go check that out. Well, maybe we'll

1846
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 2: link that in the show notes. But thanks for joining

1847
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,639
Speaker 2: us here today. Not bad. We did that in about

1848
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 2: ninety minutes, a little less, oh, with some pace. A

1849
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 2: lot of memories, a lot of memories to be shared. Yeah,

1850
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 2: a lot of stats to share. That was a fun

1851
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 2: trip down memory lane. Hopefully you know thunder Pacers. We

1852
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 2: got it in the atier right now. Hopefully you can

1853
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 2: bump up to an S tier. But we'll talk about

1854
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 2: that game six tomorrow here from the Classic Factory. Get

1855
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 2: you hyped for that, talk about any other NBA news,

1856
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 2: and then we'll go from there till then. Clipper bros.

1857
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 2: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

1858
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 2: love you guys, awesome.

1859
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 4: Next journey us and remember Nick Nurse S tier but

1860
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 4: also D tiers sometimes why'd you call it time out?

1861
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:18,679
Speaker 2: In game five? Man?

1862
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 4: We wanted to celebrate in Toronto winning the championship.

1863
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 2: It's a weird time call the time out. And then

1864
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 2: the Splash Brothers just nailed three. Afters were on a run.

1865
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 2: They were this moment, it was done. We were there

1866
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 2: and it was done. It was cooking like puttin. Some

1867
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 2: reason he stopped it. Yeah, he wanted to do his own.

1868
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 4: He wanted to be known for something, right, And then

1869
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 4: they're they're up six points and they got the ball.

1870
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's weird.

1871
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 1: Curry called it yank defense all right, when I was

1872
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 1: talking about the box and one.

1873
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 2: Al Right, Brace the day, people,