1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Insiders, the influencers, the insides. I would rather see a 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: congressional solution. It's part of my DNA. The Senate map 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: in looks a lot different than it looked in. President 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Trump was sent here to smash conventional norms in a sense. 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: Bernie Standers has already watched this. He's Bloomberg Sound on 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: with Kevin's relating on Bloomberg nine one oh five point 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: seven h D two. I'm Anna Edgerton filling in for 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: Kevin's to relate today. Coming up, we're going to talk 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: about the presidential election and the debate last night in 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: South Carolina. We'll also talk about the coronavirus and how 11 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: the US is working to address that expanding threat, and 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: we'll talk about what our panelists are looking forward to 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: in the week to come. I'm Anna Edgerton filling in 14 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: for Kevin's really today with me tonight, we have Adam Hodge. 15 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: He's a senior vice president at Aerial Investments and a 16 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: Democratic insider. And we have Lester Munson, a principal of 17 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: the government relations firm b r G Group and adjunct 18 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: faculty member at Johns Hopkins University. I'll experienced Republican staffer. So, Adam, 19 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: let me start with you if I could to get 20 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: us into the debates. UM. We South Carolina is a 21 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: very important state for Joe Biden. It's kind of a 22 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: must win situation for him. He had a pretty good 23 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: debate performance last night followed by a very important endorsement 24 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: from Jim CLAIBURNE with whom you used to work very closely. 25 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: What does that mean for Joe Biden going forward and 26 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: does he have what he needs at this point to 27 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: kind of get his campaign back on the right foot. 28 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: I think the biggest takeaway from last night was that 29 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: Biden picked the best night to have his best debate performance, UH, 30 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: and leading into South Carolina on Tuesday, he really needed 31 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: to show that he he could um could show that 32 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: the voters in South Carolina that he had what it 33 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: took to win the primary. UM and then having Jim 34 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: Claiburn come out and endorse the very next day is 35 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: kind of a perfect one to punch heading into Saturday. UH. 36 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: You know, Jim Claiburn is UH the political kingmaker in 37 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: South Carolina and one of the most prominent national African 38 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: American UH elected officials, and so the key thing I'm 39 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: looking for is is what is the margin that that 40 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: Biden ends up winning by I think it looks like 41 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: he he should win on Saturday. How does that springboard 42 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: to the campaign? And then how does he leverage if 43 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: it's a win, uh, to catapult his campaign and really 44 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: give him a boost in Super Tuesday. And it's kind 45 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 1: of hard at this point that Super Tuesdays comes so 46 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: close after the South Carolina primary because a lot of 47 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: people already you know, early voting in these Super Tuesday states, 48 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: So you know, is it going to be enough momentum 49 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: for him to kind of make up the lost space 50 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: in terms of the delegate count with these delegate rich 51 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: Super Tuesday states? So that's absolutely right. I Mean, the 52 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: thing that I think people have to remember is that 53 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: there's only been three percent of the national delegates that 54 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: have been awarded so far, so we really are still 55 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: in the early stages of the primary. After Saturday, it 56 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: really kicks in the high gear. And so the questions 57 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: can Biden both leverage if he is if if he 58 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: does win, um, what that victory does for his campaign 59 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: an Super Tuesday? Does he generate resources in campaign funding 60 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: so that he can strengthen his operation and really run 61 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: a strong ad campaign in the last couple of days 62 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: before Super Tuesday. UM. That certainly remains to be seen, um, 63 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: but certainly the um uh goal that he has set 64 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: out for himself for the next couple of days. That 65 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: is an excellent point about the three person of delegates 66 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: already awarded, because I think, you know, we talked to 67 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: much about the momentum and what the race looks like 68 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: so far, but really in the early stages. But what 69 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: we have to work with so far is a clear 70 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: front runner, and Bernie Sanders. You know, he's leading in delegates, 71 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: he's leading in the polls, he has strong fundraising. Lester, 72 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: if I could turn to you, what does that mean 73 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: for the general election? If we could kind of get 74 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: ahead of ourselves a little bit and think about a 75 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: general election with Sanders representing the Democratic Party and President 76 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: Trump representing the Republican Party. So I don't think there's 77 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: any doubt that Republicans most preferred candidate in the general 78 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: is Bernie Sanders. The President himself is clearly hoping for 79 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: a battle between the crazy guy and the socialist, where 80 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: the President plays the crazy guy. Uh. And I think 81 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: a lot of Republicans are looking back to nineteen seventy 82 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: two and thinking about George McGovern and thinking that it's 83 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: possible Trump wins in a landslide of epic proportions. Frankly, 84 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how realistic that is. There's there's gonna 85 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: be a bunch of states that the Democrat and not 86 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: going to be nominee wins no matter what. And also, uh, 87 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: there is kind of the factor of the conventional wisdom 88 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: is out the window these days. No one expected Donald 89 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,559 Speaker 1: Trump to win in twenty sixteen. No one, I don't think, 90 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: honestly expects Bernie Sanders to win in But it doesn't 91 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: mean it's not gonna happen, and it's not possible, and 92 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: there is We're in a different time and it's hard 93 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: to predict these days. So with the caveat of there's 94 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: there's a big part of this that we just don't know. 95 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: I think Republicans generally are very excited about having Bernie 96 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: Sanders is and and I think what you saw last 97 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: night from the more centrist Um members on the stage 98 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: was a recognition that they Bernie was the front runner 99 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: and they had no choice absolutely take him on was 100 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: something that I quite frankly think a lot of Republicans 101 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: avoided in the six primary. The other thing I just 102 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: want to go back to when Clybras endorsement, I think 103 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: also have to look at his number one priority is 104 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: certainly protecting the House Democratic majority. And I think there's 105 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: been a number of polls and people certainly have come 106 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: to some conclusion that Bernie puts those things, those both 107 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: the House majority and the chances of winning the Senate 108 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: in serious jeopardy. And so if Clybers looking at his 109 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: new colleague Joe Cunningham, a freshman from South Carolina, from 110 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: the Charleston suburbs, how does whoever the nominee helped protect 111 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: that House Democratic majority, And so that could also have 112 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: been a factor in the announcement. Absolutely we've seen that 113 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: from from House Democrats. We had a story out today 114 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: from my call Eric Watson about how worried they are 115 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: about that down ballot impact and what they're doing kind 116 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: of insulate themselves from that. And the other consideration. I 117 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: guess whether it's Sanders, whoever the nominee might be, is 118 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: kind of uniting the party behind this person. And right 119 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: now the Democratic Party is occupies quite a wide range 120 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: of an ideological spectrum. I think we have some sounds 121 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: from Amy Klobuchar last night talking about exactly that if 122 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 1: we spend the next four months tearing our party apart, 123 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna watch Donald Trump spend the next four years 124 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: tearing our country apart, which lester to your point, is 125 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: kind of best case scenario for the president, is it not? Yeah, absolutely, 126 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: he's he loves this his I think it's you know, 127 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna need a little bit more time to kind 128 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: of go back and evaluate how the impeachment played out, 129 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: but I think net net, right now, it looks like 130 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: it was a huge win for Trump. He not only 131 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: survived and is was not removed, but also he stained 132 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: his person most likely to beat him in a general, 133 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, to a point where Biden didn't win any 134 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: of the first three Democrat elections during this primary season. 135 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: So it really uh turned to Trump's advantage. It's continuing 136 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: to do that. He does appear to have a lot 137 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: of luck on his side, and if Bernie is in 138 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: fact the nominee, that is that's his dream opponent. I 139 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 1: think my my initial reaction yesterday was that the winner 140 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: of the debate was Trump and the loser were the moderators. 141 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, Adam, did you want to build just the thing? 142 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: I can't help But thinking back to though, is we 143 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: can't forget that these primary contests are about fighting for 144 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: the vision of the party. And I've been remember in 145 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, a lot of ink was was 146 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: spilled mostly still at that time and not not tweets 147 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: um about how the fight between a bomb and Clinton 148 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: was dragging on and it was going to cost Democrats 149 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: a chance to win, and it was a nasty fight 150 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: between the two of them. It seems so quick, but 151 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: but they were real, honest policy debates about where we 152 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: should take the country and what that should look like. 153 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: I think that's what you're seeing now. I think it's 154 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: actually healthy for the party, uh to Tom jump there in. 155 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: So we'll see how it how it plays out in 156 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: the next Yeah. And so I agree with Adam and 157 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: I disagree with sender Klobucher. It's not the party doesn't 158 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: tear itself apart when it debates the position of the party. 159 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: That's a good thing, that's a healthy thing. That's what 160 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: democracy is about. I think what's going to hurt the 161 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: Democrats is if they nominate someone who's far to the 162 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,559 Speaker 1: left like Bernie Sanders admittedly is that that's my opinion. Again, 163 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: we could be wrong. We saw that we were wrong 164 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: with Donald Trump in so great Thanks so much. I'm 165 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: Anna Edwards and you're listening to Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg. 166 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: Sound on with Kevin Sile on Bloomberg and one oh 167 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: five point seven f m h D two. We have 168 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 1: to work and expand the World Health Organization. Obviously, we 169 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,599 Speaker 1: have to make sure the c d C, the n 170 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: I h our infectious departments are fully funded. This is 171 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: a global problem. We've got to work with countries all 172 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: over the world to solve it. Said, I would be 173 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: on the phone which and making it clear we are 174 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: going to need to be in your country. You have 175 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: to be open, you have to be clear. We have 176 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: to know what's going on. But we don't have the 177 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: organization we need. This is a very serious thing that 178 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: as you see the stock markets falling apart because it's 179 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 1: gonna people are really worried and they should be. We 180 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: don't have anybody to respond. I would better coordinate throughout 181 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 1: my presidency to be ready for the next pandemic and 182 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: to prepare for this one. I'm Anna Edgerton filling in 183 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: for Kevin's really today. That was Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden, 184 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: Michael Bloomberg, and Amy Klobuchar last night at the South 185 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: Carolina debate speaking about the coronavirus. Now, I should mention 186 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: that Michael Bloomberg, who's seeking the Democratic presidential nomination, is 187 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: the founder and majority owner of Bloomberg LP, the parent 188 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: company of Bloomberg Radio. So I wanted to ask our 189 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 1: panelists today we still have with us Adam Hodge, senior 190 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: vice president at Aerial Investments, and Lester Munson, a principal 191 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 1: at government relations firm b R B gr Um. Ask 192 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: you guys about how the the debate candidates treated the coronavirus, 193 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 1: because it's kind of an awkward thing to mention in 194 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: a political setting. You know, it's a very serious global threat, 195 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: but you know it's something that you would want to 196 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: know how these people as president would address this. So Lester, 197 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 1: let's start with you. You know, how did you think 198 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: the candidates handled this question last night? You know, I 199 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: didn't particularly like Mayor Bloomberg's response, and that's not to 200 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: say I don't normally like some of the stuff he says, 201 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: But I thought his response was was probably the most 202 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: political of the ones that we heard. The other candidates 203 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 1: were a little more focused on public policy issues and 204 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: funding and we're less um prone to exaggeration or fear 205 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: mongering or anything like that. This is a very serious issue. 206 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: I do think, uh, the candidates as a in total 207 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: missed an opportunity to say something constructive about the current 208 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,599 Speaker 1: president and say, you know what, President Trump is on 209 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: top of things. He's got good people working for him, 210 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: and I would I would work with the administration right 211 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: now to make sure we had the most robust response possible. 212 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: I think it was real that was an opportunity for 213 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 1: leadership that no one really sees. It's not clear to 214 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: me that that that's the case, because we did have 215 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: kind of conflicting messages from you know, the President tweeting about, um, 216 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: you know, everything's under control, Larry Cudlow saying to buy 217 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: the dip in the stock market. Um, you have CDC 218 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: officials sounding a bit more concerned about but I think 219 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: the threat facing the country. But I think there's an 220 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: opportunity for serious politicians to kind of reach beyond the 221 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: Twitter phrases and go right to the actual response where 222 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: you've got real pros at h HS and n A. 223 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: H wore on the case. We have the best scientists 224 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: in the world and they're all working on this in 225 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: our and the u S response having nothing to do 226 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: necessarily with the political administration is actually very good, and 227 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: we've done some good work with w h O. We've 228 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: even done some good work with China that hasn't been 229 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: talked about much, where they've been willing to share their 230 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 1: data on the virus itself so we're able to identify it. 231 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: There's been some good things that happened. I think if 232 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: you if you kind of step away from the Twitter 233 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: machine and be more rational and talk about in a 234 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: very calm way about the things government is actually doing, 235 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: that's a much better opportunity to show leadership. Well, and 236 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: it seemed like there is still some concern even on 237 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: the Hill. Nancy Pelosi today said that, um, she's concerned 238 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: that there aren't really the health professionals that are in 239 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: place in the administration that you know, they have been 240 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: let go and haven't been replaced. We also have UM 241 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy who said that he wasn't really um as 242 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: thrilled with China's response and that he would hope that 243 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: they would have kind of a better international cooperation. Um Adam, 244 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: if I could turn to you, um how did you 245 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: think that the debate candidates handled this question and was 246 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: there anyone who really stood out as sounding particularly presidential, 247 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: because this is the kind of thing that a president 248 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: could have to face and show leadership in a very 249 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: divided country. No, you're You're absolutely right. I think it 250 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: was a commander in chief test, and one I think 251 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: when Joe Biden was able to bring up his experience 252 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: in the Obama administration helping to lead the response to 253 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: the bowla outbreak, that was one of his strongest moments 254 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: of the debate, and I think he tried to focus 255 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: on leadership and showing how he would would overn and 256 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: how he would that experience prepares him to step in 257 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: and be president day one. And that's an effective message 258 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: because it reinforces the message he's tried to paint from 259 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: from the very beginning of his campaign that he's tested 260 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: he can jump in from day one and take over 261 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 1: from from Trump. I think the question going forward, I 262 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: mean less, He's right, this is a it's a global pandemic. 263 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: It should be treated with the level of seriousness that 264 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: it really is. And I think what you saw from 265 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 1: UM Senator Schumer and other members in the Hill is 266 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: trying to um paint the need for real money to 267 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: try to address the problem. And they, I think they 268 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: are have legitimate reason to express concern about the lack 269 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: of personnel that's been in the administration and that the 270 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: number of acting personnel both within the White House and 271 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: within the HHS really leaves us at a disadvantage and 272 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: trying to tackle this as as compared to how the 273 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: operation we had under the Obama administration when dealing with 274 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: a bullet where you had every facet of the administration 275 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: of working to try to help stop it. You also 276 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: have Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf who has been 277 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: before Congress this week as well. UM Lester, we're kind 278 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: of at a crucial moment in the US response to 279 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: the coronavirus. You we haven't had as many transmissions here 280 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: in the United States. There are fifteen people, I believe UM. 281 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: HHS Secretary A Sar said today that we're not on 282 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: one of the cruise ships that was affected. So how 283 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: do you know what steps as administration need to take 284 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: to really kind of halt the spread and make sure 285 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: that we don't get to kind of the really scary 286 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: moment where it's getting passed around between between communities in 287 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: the United States. Well, I think it's important again, uh, 288 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: you know, not being a doctor and not being an 289 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: epidemiologist or anything like that, so it don't take any 290 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: of my Anything I have to say is medically. It's 291 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: I'm a political hack at best. Um. I think I 292 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: think it's important to focus on, uh, the advice of 293 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: medical professionals. The CDC has done a good job of 294 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: talking about what people should do and shouldn't do. They say, 295 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: you know, masks are overrated. Unless you have a certain 296 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: kind of mask, it's not really going to help you. 297 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: You know, there's other things you can do. You can 298 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: wash your hands, you can be avoid crowds when necessary 299 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: if it reaches a certain point. So read the things 300 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: that the CDC produces, take a look at them, average folks. 301 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: I think we are going to be fine, uh, And 302 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: then the professionals will deal with this in a sensible way. 303 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: And I do think there's again an opportunity for politicians 304 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: to say, you know what, We're just gonna put ours 305 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: and d s aside. We're gonna not argue about stuff 306 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: that's not central to the issue at hand, and we're 307 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: gonna work together to make sure we have the most 308 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: robust response possible. The Administration sent up a supplemental funding 309 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: request a couple of days ago for UH an extra 310 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: one and a half billion. There's some other money they're 311 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: going to add to that for a more UH for 312 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: a serious response to this issue. I would like to 313 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: see Congress take that very seriously, look at it hard, 314 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: to make sure that those are the right things to do, 315 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: and then funded absolutely. It looks like they could even 316 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: ask for more money. I know Minority Leader Chuck Schumer 317 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: in the Senate had said as much as eight point 318 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: five billion dollars. We'll get some more of that in 319 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: the next secon in the next session. Downloaded the Bloomberg 320 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: Sound On podcast on iTunes, at Bloomberg dot com or 321 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: by downloading the Bloomberg Business App. You can also find 322 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: us on Radio dot com, I Heart Radio, and Spotify. 323 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: I'm Anna Edgerton and you're listening to Bloomberg. This is 324 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin Surley on Bloomberg and one 325 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: all five point seven fm h D two. I'm Anna 326 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: Edgerton filling in for Kevin's really today, we still have 327 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: our excellent panel with us tonight. We have Adam Hodge, 328 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: who is UH experienced democratic strategists, worked as the former 329 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: communications director at the Democratic National Committee, also as the 330 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: former Press secretary for House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn. We 331 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: also have Lester Munson, principal of government Relations from b 332 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: GR Group and adjunct faculty member at John's Hopkins University. 333 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: Also for this segment on the line, we have Dan Flatly, 334 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 1: He's one of our Bloomberg reporters on Capitol Hill. Dan, 335 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: how was the news on the Hill today? UM? Tell 336 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: us what we learned about coronavirus. So I think it's 337 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: fair to say that there's uh, there's a little bit 338 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: of skepticism right now in Congress as to you know, 339 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: whether the Trump administration has this uh, has this UM 340 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: virus situation fully under control, or or whether they are 341 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: sending mixed messages to not only members of Congress but 342 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: to the American people. UM Secretary of Homeland UM of 343 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: H S H. S. Alex Hazar was here on the 344 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: Hill today, UH talking to two committees, and he was 345 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: grilled fairly, fairly deeply by UM by both panels on 346 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,479 Speaker 1: not only the numbers that he's put forward, but how 347 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: that they how they will respond. And I think that 348 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: there's uh some disagreement as to how this would be 349 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: funded and whether the two point five billion dollars that 350 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: the administration has requested will be enough. So you've seen 351 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: Senator schu would come out with eight point five eight 352 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: point five billion dollar proposal, and even House UH minority 353 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: Leader Kevin McCarthy suggesting that perhaps the administration wasn't wasn't 354 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: adequately planning for this, and he suggested that maybe four 355 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: billion was needed. So it did sound like we were 356 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: going to have a meeting happening between a Republican and 357 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: Democratic staffers from the appropriations committees in both chambers, which 358 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: would be the ones responsible for, you know, deciding how 359 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: much money needs to be appropriated where exactly it should go. UM, 360 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: is this Is there any concern that the administration will 361 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: be able to address this and UM to keep this 362 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: from spreading faster than has been predicted. I think what 363 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: you've see in this week really uh kind of an 364 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: acknowledgement by members of Congress that that this is going 365 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 1: to come to the United States, that there that we're 366 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: going to see an increase in a number of cases 367 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: here of this coronavirus UM. That's a bit of a 368 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: change from the last few weeks when UM. I think 369 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: that there was some hope that this would remain overseas essentially, 370 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: and that that would be contained. So the line that 371 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: we really heard a lot yesterday was inevitable that this 372 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: will inevitably come to the US and that we will 373 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: see more cases. And I think that what is most 374 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: concerning members of Congress right now is seeing whether the 375 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: administration has kind of a coordinated approach. So you saw 376 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: yesterday Senator John Kennedy really grilling m DHS Secretary Department 377 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: of Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolfe on the numbers, saying, 378 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: you know, why aren't your numbers the same as what 379 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: we're seeing from Health and Human Services? H. Do you 380 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: know what the mortality rate is for the coronavirus relative 381 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: to the flu and H. Kennedy later suggesting that the 382 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: administration needed to get on the same page. And I 383 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: think that's why you see Trump holding a news conference 384 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: this evening to really reinforce this message that you know, 385 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: we have this well in hand. This is a coordinated 386 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: effort across all agencies, and we're doing everything that we 387 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: need to do. I think this is a you know, 388 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: sort of an important messaging opportunity for the administration that 389 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: they really haven't um taken advantage of up to this point. 390 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: And they've gotten pushback from both Republicans and Democrats in 391 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: Congress because of that. That's right, and you know, anytime 392 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: we have kind of bipartisan agreement on that, that is 393 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: you know, a signal that it's that it's serious and 394 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: that it's something that you that shouldn't be subject to 395 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: partisan politics. And just as a reminder, you can catch 396 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: President Trump's addressed to the Nation regarding coronavirus here on 397 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio at six thirty. And thank you so much, 398 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: thanks for your reporting and thanks for your insights today. 399 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: UM Lester, if I could ask you, I know that 400 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: you also worked with UM Senator Bob Corker, who was 401 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: a member of the Senator Bob Corker and UM you're 402 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 1: the chief of staff for Senator Mark Kirk of Illinois, 403 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: who was a member of the Appropriations Committee. So I 404 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: imagine that you have um some experience with these appropriation negotiations. 405 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: What's going on right now kind of behind the scenes, 406 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: what's being weighed in terms of figuring out how much 407 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: to put towards addressing this threat. Well, on the one hand, 408 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna have real experts, and I'm thinking of people 409 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: like Anthony Fauci from the National Institute's Health, who's got 410 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: incredible credibility across the board with Republicans and Democrats. Is 411 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: going to be going up to the hill and talking 412 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: about the particulars of the disease and outlining kind of 413 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: one of some of the resources that are going to 414 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: be needed. That's going to be taken very seriously. At 415 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: the same time, there's going to be some of the 416 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: usual congressional spending politics, and people are gonna be trying 417 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,239 Speaker 1: to put stuff in there that they think they might 418 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: need for something else. But it's tan gentile related to 419 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: a coronavirus response. So it's gonna be it's gonna be 420 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,719 Speaker 1: some good stuff and then some stuff that's a little swampier. Well, 421 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: it seems like timing is a little sensitive right now 422 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: because it's you know, this isn't like continuing resolution that 423 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: you know, this stop gap measured that that members of 424 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: Congress can kind of chew over for for weeks in 425 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: order to fund the government. This is something that's in 426 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: response to an imminent threat. You know, does that add 427 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: added pressure for a clean supplemental appropriations bill? Sure? And 428 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: it's and it gives a much sooner deadline for action 429 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: Congress can do that. Congress could pass you know, I 430 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: must need a bill every day if it really needed to. 431 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: But they only Congress, uh, the way it functions these days, 432 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: it only actually kicks something out to the president when 433 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: it has to do it. So the fact that this 434 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: virus is a very serious and immediate threat means they're 435 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: going to have to do something right away. So it'll 436 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: it'll be very serious negotiations. My senses, it will end 437 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: up being a little bigger than it needs to because 438 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: people are gonna put some stuff in there that they 439 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: think is a little opportunity that is going to be 440 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: seen as opportunist. And how Speaker Nancy Pelosi likes to 441 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: remind us at appropriators, when left to their own devices, 442 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: can work things out amongst themselves. Um adam, do you 443 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: see any kind of urgent UH, concerns for lawmakers on 444 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: the hill, like what do lawmakers need to do to 445 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: respond to this when most of the UM action to 446 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: confront this threat will come from the administration administration, What 447 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: can Republicans and Democrats do to kind of help the 448 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: U s speed its response. I think one of the 449 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: points that that Lesser was making is so spot on, 450 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: and you alluded to as well. Appropriators do historically have 451 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: a way to to work things out and actually get 452 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: things done UM, and I think I would not be 453 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: surprised if this, especially with a you know, a UM 454 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: threat on the horizon, that they will will try to 455 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: move quickly. I think it's important for members of Congress 456 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: just to stick to the facts and try to to 457 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: be the UM adult in the room about the threats 458 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: that we that we really face and not try to 459 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: raise any unnecessary UM alarm bells. At the same time 460 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: treating it with the respect that it actually deserves, and 461 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: putting up a front that that they are going to 462 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: try to solve this problem together collectively on a bipartisan basis. 463 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: That's in the best interests of both parties quite frankly, 464 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: and the question remains to be seen whether Washington can 465 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: actually act and move in that way and expeditiously. I mean, 466 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: this could end up being something unlike anything we've ever 467 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: really seen. You know, Ebola was a very scary threat, 468 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: was a very scary disease, but it was pretty focused 469 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: far away from you assures. But this is something that 470 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: looks like the flu. You know, how do people respond 471 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: to that? No? I think I think that's right. I 472 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: mean to two thoughts that come to mind. One, I 473 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: think alex as our last week I saw an interview 474 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: where he was talking about people the flu is an actual, 475 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: more imminent threat to Americans daily lives, and we will 476 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: roughly fifty sixty Americans will die from the flu this year. 477 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: And so keeping your hands washed in and staying healthy, 478 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: staying home from work, wuner sick is is important. UM. 479 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: But I can't help but remember, um, in being in 480 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: the Obama administration, you know, Trump was on the outside 481 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: talking about canceling all flights to the US from that 482 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: from a bowl, from from Boulis stricken areas, and and 483 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: trying to blockade from those countries. And actually, from everything 484 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: you heard from medical experts, was the last thing that 485 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: we should should do. UM. And so the leadership test 486 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: for him now that he's in the hot seat, now 487 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: that he's behind the resolute desk, is whether he changes 488 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: his tune seeing that, Yeah, unless you look like you 489 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: want to be in there as well. You know. I'm 490 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: reminded of the response after nine eleven happened in New 491 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: York when when old Rudy Giuliani, the very competent mayor 492 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: that that we remember of New York City, was out 493 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: there every day talking about the response, talking about what 494 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: was going on, and really reassured a lot of people 495 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: that city officials and others had things well in hand 496 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: and things were going to be handled. But he was 497 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: a master of detail and he was out there seven. 498 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: President Trump has a high bar to get to in 499 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: that sense. He needs to be a master of detail 500 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: and he needs to he needs to be able to 501 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: talk about it quickly and often. And that just as 502 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: a reminder, people, wash your hands. That's the best thing 503 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: you can do to to prevent the spread of disease. Um. 504 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: Download the Bloomberg Sound On podcast on iTunes at Bloomberg 505 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: dot com or this is Bloomberg sound On with Kevin 506 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: Surreally on Bloomberg one and one or five point seven 507 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: f m h D two. I'm Anna Edgerton filling in 508 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: for Kevin's really today and I'm so disappointed this is 509 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: our last few minutes with our excellent panel. I feel 510 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: like I want to pick Yell's brains, you know. For 511 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: the rest of the evening, we have with us Adam Hodge. 512 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: She's a Democratic strategist with experience at the Democratic National 513 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: Committee and with the House majority of Jim Clyburne. We 514 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: also have less Sermunson, a principle at government relations from 515 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: b GR Group, and an adject faculty remember at Johns 516 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: Hopkins University. So in this segment, I would like to 517 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: ask you guys, what's on your radar? What are you 518 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: looking forward to for the rest of this week, for 519 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: next week? Adam, Let's start with you. Yeah, I mean 520 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: it's hard to not look at South Carolina and the 521 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: results on Super Tuesday. I think in the Super Tuesday 522 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: just parsing out a little bit, I'm really looking for 523 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: at what Bernie's margin in California ends up being. I 524 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: think it is almost assure that he'll win that that state. Um, 525 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: you know, and so how does he balance you know? 526 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 1: What was a rougher debate performance last night. How does 527 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: that affect his margin and victory there um? And how 528 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 1: what's his share of the African American and Latino turn 529 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: out into California versus the other states around the country. 530 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: It's a really, really big big question. California is really 531 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 1: big in terms of delegate count, but it doesn't really 532 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: look like the states that are important for the electoral College. 533 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: What does that mean anything at this point? Or No, 534 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: I don't think that that necessarily means anything. I mean, 535 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: this is ultimately a race to getting of the pledge delegates, 536 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: and so what Bernie's margin there in California, which has 537 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: the most amount of delgates, will matter and could shake 538 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: up the race if he's not able to amount of lead, 539 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: because then there's a bunch of other states after Super 540 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: Tuesday in the South that may give Biden an opportunity 541 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: or or Bloomberger who or someone else to really run 542 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: the table. Absolutely, this is my will be my first 543 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: election voting in Maryland. So I was just looking at 544 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: the Maryland's primary rules to see whether or not I 545 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: can I can vote in the primary. Unlester, what about you? 546 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: What are you looking forward to you next week? So 547 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm watching the news out of Iran as it relates 548 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 1: to coronavirus. As we know ConA coronavirus is in all 549 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: the headlines and it's now becoming a global problem. But 550 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: a couple of days ago we had news out of 551 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: Iran that the government appeared to be not disclosing what 552 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: was really happening in the country with coronavirus or a 553 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: lot of deaths in the Holy City of Comb, which 554 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: is very important in the Shia religion. The Iranian government 555 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: was already on shaky ground because it had accidentally shot 556 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: down this plane full of students in the wake of 557 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: the Kasum Solomoni killing by the US. So there's there's 558 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: a real interesting political dynamic to all this in Iran 559 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: in particular, and that government could be in a little 560 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: bit of trouble. And the deputy Health minister who was 561 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: out there speaking about the coronavirus talking about this threat 562 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: his brow coughing. It was on TV that night and 563 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: then ends up coming down with coronavirus. Yeah, it's uh, 564 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: it's it's it's alarming. You don't want to overstate it, 565 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: but it's it could have that's a place where I 566 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: can have a real immediate political impact, so it bears watching. 567 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: So this week, I think I'm going to be looking 568 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: forward to a Secretary of Pompeio testifying on Capitol Hill 569 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: on Friday. It'll be his first appearance on the Hill 570 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: for for a while, since his last briefing, a closed 571 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: door briefing that he gave to the Senate on Iran, 572 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: which was not well received. There was, um, you know, 573 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: even some Republican senators like Mike Lee and Rand Paul 574 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: who are very upset with the way that he kind 575 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: of presented the administration's decision making process with the run. 576 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: So it'll be really interesting to see, you know, how 577 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: he's received on Capitol Hill. Lester, did you want to 578 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: weigh in on that. Yeah, members of Commerce really like 579 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: it when people defer to them and honor them for 580 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: their position. And Article one it's the first one. Uh. 581 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: And then think Mike Pompey as a four member of Congress. Yeah, 582 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: he doesn't. Yeah, he might not have gotten that memo, 583 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: he really, he seems not. He's more focused on Article 584 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: two now. Yeah, and you know, so he's probably going 585 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: to be talking about the Middle East. We do have 586 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: a Taliban a non violent agreement with the Taliban. That 587 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: ends on Saturday, So if that holds through the weekends, 588 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: we could see um movement towards a peace agreement with 589 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: the Taliban, which would be huge. It would be a 590 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: huge moment for the president and it would be a 591 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: time for him to kind of point to fulfilling one 592 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: of his campaign promises. Adam, is that how important is 593 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: that for the president going into his re election camp. 594 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: I think it's especially important given the other actions he's 595 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: taken in the Middle East to actually increase troops in 596 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: Saudi and a bunch of other countries. And so right 597 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: now he has a huge target on his back as 598 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: that has a broken promise that he made in the 599 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: in the primary. If he's successful, and it's if it's 600 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: a real deal, the devil's always in the details of 601 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: these these agreement Um, it will certainly be an opportunity 602 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: for him to talk about promises made, promises kept. We 603 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: did get a little bit of discussion about foreign policy 604 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: at the debate last night. There were some questions about 605 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: the terrible humanitarian crisis in Syria. Um, Adam, how did 606 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: you evaluate the response from the candidates about foreign policy 607 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: and about how they would position U S troops abroad 608 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: or respond to, um, some of the un certainty in 609 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: the Middle East's there seemed to be some consensus amongst 610 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: members of the folks on on the debate states just 611 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: about how Americans would of foreign policy and how um 612 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: you know, front forward we should be on some of 613 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: those issues. Um. But I think it also gave Bernie 614 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: Sanders and Joe Biden a chance to contrast different styles 615 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: about how they would actually govern in and that sets 616 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: up the key debate with amongst Democratic voters is what 617 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: kind of leader and what kind of commander in chief 618 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: do you want representing the Democratic Party? And we do 619 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: seem to have a bit of a shift within the 620 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: American public where you certainly a lot of support for 621 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: the troops and everyone wants to make sure that they're 622 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: being support of of service members, but really kind of 623 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: realization that the United States should not be involved in 624 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: these wars that drag on for eighteen nineteen years, and 625 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: if you're going to get involved in these kind of conflicts, 626 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: it has to come with an exit strategy. Lester, how 627 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: much do you see this factoring into the campaign? Is there, um, 628 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: you know, a shift in the electorate that candidates will 629 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: have to respond to or is this really driven by 630 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: the candidates themselves. Well, you know, you can talk for 631 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,239 Speaker 1: a long time about this. The last four presidents who 632 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: are elected all campaigned on the more isolationist side than 633 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: their opponent, and they won, but then once in office 634 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: became became much more internationalist. With the possible exception of 635 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: President Trump, he's really kind of held to a let's 636 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: pull back to the US kind of approach. I think 637 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: it's very risky form, particularly in Afghanistan. The devil is 638 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: in the details. If this agreement looks weak, he's going 639 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: to get a ton of opposition from his own right wing. 640 00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: It's going to divide the party. And I was a 641 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: little concerned in the debate from some of the things 642 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: Senator Sanders and Senator Warren said, which I thought were 643 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: frankly as isolationist to some of the stuff that President 644 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: Trump has been saying. And I don't like it from 645 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: either one of them. Well, and you see, one thing 646 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: that almost every candidate on the stage last night emphasized 647 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: was that is not just enough to be strong militarily, 648 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: you also have to build up alliances, making sure you're 649 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: participating with these multilateral institutions and agreements and organizations that 650 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: can address something like the coronavirus. You know, this is 651 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: when you really need to pull together as an international 652 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: community to respond to what we really see as a 653 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: global threat. Is Adam, do you see any one of 654 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: the Democratic candidates is really the strongest on foreign policy 655 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: and having kind of the best approach for this moment 656 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: we find ourselves in. I think it's it's certainly been 657 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: an opportunity for for Joe Biden to give his you know, 658 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: his his best, uh, you know approach. But it's also 659 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: given Mayor Pete a chance to talk about his experience 660 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: serving in a war zone. And I think last night 661 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: that was one of his strongest moments where he was 662 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,479 Speaker 1: able to talk about his experience as an intelligence officer, 663 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: and you could tell that he had a little bit 664 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: more comfort on those issues as opposed to some of 665 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: the other issues. It'll be interesting, you know, if Sender 666 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,479 Speaker 1: Sanders does end up being the nominee of the Democratic Party. 667 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: Is he going to pick someone who's a little more 668 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 1: pro engagement in the world, like a like a Biden 669 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: or a butt a Judge as his running mate? Is 670 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: he is he going to reach out to that part 671 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: of the part. I think that will be a big 672 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: question for and if he does, what does that do 673 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: to his grassroots support. I mean, you know, he's very 674 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: passionate following who seems to be with him until the 675 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: very end. But you know, if he were to pair 676 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: with booted Judge, that would seem like a kind of 677 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 1: hard ticket for some of them to swallow. UM. Any 678 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: other reflections coming up, go ahead, And I was just 679 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: gonna say that, and that just it's it's always fun 680 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: to play the the deep stakes, UM, but I think 681 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard for UM since there's an all 682 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: likelihood of likely to be a white male leading the 683 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: ticket that there that is going to have to be 684 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: a diverse vice presidential candidate to really kind of hold 685 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: the party together. We cannot forget that African American voters, 686 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: specifically African American women are the most engaged and we're 687 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: the majority makers when Democrats took back the House. Whoever 688 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: the nominee is, they have to find a way to 689 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: galvanize that community. And one thing that Joe Biden did 690 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: last night was he's going to pour a black women 691 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court. That race in eyebrows. That was impressive, absolutely, 692 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,439 Speaker 1: and that's something will definitely be watching for in South 693 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: Carolina on Saturday. Thank you so much for our panelist show. 694 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: Are great. I hope we can continue this conversation. Um. 695 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: Just as a reminder, you can download the Bloomberg Sound 696 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: on podcasts on iTunes at Bloomberg dot com, but bry 697 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: downloading the Bloomberg Business App. You can also find us 698 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: on Radio dot com, I Heart Radio, and Spotify. And 699 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: tonight stay tuned right here to Bloomberg Radio. We will 700 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: bring you President Trump's news conference with CDC and other officials.