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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where Football's not back, but the

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Speaker 1: Trade Candidates Podcast is. I'm here. I'm like garage with

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Speaker 1: my friend Bill Barnwell across the country. I just had

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Speaker 1: dinner with you, Bill in San Francisco. It was delicious,

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Speaker 1: it was fun, and het Tye was there. What a

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Speaker 1: medium of the mind's Bill Gavin. And yet it all

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Speaker 1: felt like prelude to this, the show that everyone was

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Speaker 1: asking me about on the streets of San Francisco. When

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Speaker 1: is your Trade Candidates podcast coming out? The answer is today, Bill.

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Speaker 2: This is the only thing I'm doing between Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: and the middle of next week. I gave myself a

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Speaker 2: week off. This was the lone exception. I said, we

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Speaker 2: have to do the Trade Candidate's column. The throngs of

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Speaker 2: fans in San Francisco who stopped, not only you, but

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Speaker 2: me and asked, when are you going to hit me

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Speaker 2: with that Joe Toney? For twenty I have been grinding

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Speaker 2: for days trying to find who the next Joe Toney

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Speaker 2: will be.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so yes, Bill Barnwell nailed the Joe Tony trade

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Speaker 1: last year. We did twenty three names last year. I

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Speaker 1: have a feeling it's going to go over that this

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Speaker 1: time we hit about eight or nine depending on the

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Speaker 1: statute of limitations. Does Jalen Phillips still count? I mean

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Speaker 1: that happened eventually we got George Pickens, Micah deebo DK,

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Speaker 1: Minka Fitzpatrick. When did that happen? That happened at some point. So, okay,

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Speaker 1: we got some good ones last year and we're going

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Speaker 1: to do great this year too. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: there's as many obvious names and it's it's just a

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Speaker 1: season where I think there could be a lot of

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Speaker 1: trades very quickly before we get going. I do think

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Speaker 1: there is a situation in the league that is asking

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Speaker 1: for a lot of trades. Eleven teams with more than

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Speaker 1: forty million dollars in cap space, seven between twenty and

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Speaker 1: forty million. That's before opening up space. Then there's about

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Speaker 1: twelve teams that are tied to the cap or under,

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Speaker 1: so it's going to be trickier for them, but a

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Speaker 1: lot of tradable contracts out there. I do think we're

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Speaker 1: in a world where trading is growing at you know,

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Speaker 1: every single season, and it's only going to continue.

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Speaker 2: I agree, And maybe some of the names aren't quite

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Speaker 2: as big. Some of the people I have as the

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Speaker 2: most likely to be traded are not necessarily superstars, although

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Speaker 2: some of them are, you know, Pro Bowl caliber talents.

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Speaker 2: But I have dozens of potentially Look sure, I frankly,

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Speaker 2: frankly I stopped. I could have kept going, but I'm

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Speaker 2: really interested in some people off the top of the

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Speaker 2: list who are extremely likely to be traded, and then

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Speaker 2: some people at the bottom by list, maybe not necessarily

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Speaker 2: likely to be traded, but would be a fascinating deal

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Speaker 2: if they actually went on the move.

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Speaker 1: I think last year we did a bit of a

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Speaker 1: sliding scale of like interesting names that also had a

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Speaker 1: high chance to be traded early. We'll go in order

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Speaker 1: of who we think could be traded, Like Stafford was

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Speaker 1: was right near the top, so was Pickens, which did happen.

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Speaker 1: I will give you the first first pick here since

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Speaker 1: you had the best hit when it came to Joe

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Speaker 1: Tuney that came out of nowhere, So you can go first.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Greg. There is only one player in the National

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Speaker 2: Football League who has had his owner go in a

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Speaker 2: press conference and talk about what a bad pick he

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Speaker 2: was over the last three months, and that is Keon

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Speaker 2: Coleman of the Buffalo Bills. I am starting with the

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Speaker 2: player who was trashed by ownership at a press conference,

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Speaker 2: Keon Coleman, who was a healthy scratch for the Bills

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Speaker 2: at times down the stretch. I do know Sean McDermott's out,

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Speaker 2: so maybe this could be a thing where Joe Brady,

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Speaker 2: who seemed to like Keon Coleman, will keep him around.

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Speaker 2: But I just feel like once ownership is saying not

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Speaker 2: for me, I feel like your agent probably realizes I'm

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Speaker 2: not getting a second contract here. You get on the phone,

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Speaker 2: you start talking to teams, you start hinting, Hey, maybe

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Speaker 2: a fresh start would makes sense for all sides. Does

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Speaker 2: feel like he uncalled him would be a good place

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Speaker 2: for us to start.

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Speaker 1: What a what a way to start saying the number

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Speaker 1: six receiver on the Bills could get dealt? No, I

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Speaker 1: like it, You're right, I mean it's I actually forgot

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Speaker 1: about him. It was I kept panicking. I keep going

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Speaker 1: through different ways of looking. I looked at twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: near the top of my list of likely to get traded.

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Speaker 1: DJ Moore can be traded by the Bears. You can

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Speaker 1: save sixteen million dollars by tradingum. He is twenty four

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Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed. You have more in terms of a trade.

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Speaker 2: In terms of cash, so forty nine million over the

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Speaker 2: next two years for DJ Moore in terms of cash

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Speaker 2: savings for the Chicago's rese.

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Speaker 1: For CAP, Yes, for CAP in general, I kind of

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Speaker 1: To think about it too, And it's also important to

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Speaker 1: think about the contract that he has because that affects

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Speaker 1: his trade value. He's owed twenty four million dollars guaranteed

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Speaker 1: this year, which is a decent amount for essentially like

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Speaker 1: They have a lot of issues they are. I believe

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Speaker 1: very logical one. If you have any landing spots or

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Speaker 1: any other thoughts on Dj Moore, this is just one

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Speaker 1: where I thought I would frankly be surprised if he's

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Speaker 1: not traded. I absolutely think he would have a market.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what that market would be. Maybe I'll

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Speaker 2: Round pick, you know, third fourth round range. I don't

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Speaker 2: I mean, forty nine million over two years is not

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Speaker 2: thinking about you know, superstars getting forty plus million dollars

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Speaker 2: Bears this offseason, fifteen and a half million of his

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Speaker 2: And I do think about, you know, how this season

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Speaker 2: we have the We don't have the playbook, so we

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Speaker 2: can't say for sure, but that route combination looked pretty

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Speaker 2: He's had some stuff on film. I know JT. O.

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Speaker 2: Sullivan who covers the Bears league closely and has broken

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Speaker 2: They could play more twelve next year with with Colson

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Speaker 1: Might have just set a name that's going to be

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Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see. But I do think, you know,

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Speaker 2: if he's your third white out, maybe twenty four and

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense with his production. And you're right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: half on my list for sure. His tenure in Chicago's

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Speaker 1: player as you want. Now that said, incredibly productive in

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. So maybe one in two on this list

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Speaker 1: they get traded for or each other. Ben McAdoo was

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Speaker 1: I think that's a really strong one. I'm giving myself

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Speaker 1: the win in this first round. Not the way, all right,

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, less exciting player, but still notable, and I

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Speaker 2: think very likely to be traded. Walker Little, the tackle

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Speaker 2: But everything hinds to an idea that Walker Little is

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Speaker 2: Walker Little not making a ton of money. Twelve million

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Speaker 1: Could he be like the the younger left ackle answer

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Speaker 1: to Morgan Moses, Just the guy who plugs a gap

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Speaker 1: guaranteed that money this year walker little eleven million dollar salary.

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Speaker 1: But I think it'd be tradable. The only question would

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Speaker 1: I think they're committed to him at this point. He'll

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Speaker 2: If you're the Jaguars, do you settle for a late

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Speaker 1: Who Trevor Lawrence. Yeah right, that's a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: was really half a season for BTJ that that elevated

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Speaker 2: I'll get you one more wide receiver, a couple other

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Speaker 2: have some cap situation to work with. We'll see what

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Speaker 2: happens with Lane Johnson if he retires. That offensive line

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Speaker 2: like all sides involved, Baby could have used a new

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Speaker 1: I totally agree. I think all the chatter about how

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Speaker 1: But I think his value would still be really high,

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Speaker 1: I kind of think you still could. Am I crazy?

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Speaker 2: Do you remember anyone who seemed crestfallen on television when

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Speaker 2: his team traded away A J. Brown? Who you can

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Speaker 2: think of for a team you need a wide receiver

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Speaker 2: Like Frabele and the Patriots. I mean it's it's high risk,

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Speaker 1: The trick is like, man, the Patriots need some young

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Speaker 2: for Stefan Diggs kind of feels like that would be

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Speaker 1: And the thing to think about if you're an Eagles

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Speaker 1: he's good at sort of thinking about those future years

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: Tua did not make my list. Really. I wrote down

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Speaker 1: But I do think they will find a team willing

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Speaker 1: Vikings would be fun. I don't think the Browns are

436
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Speaker 1: going to take on big money because the Watson situation.

437
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,399
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna Yeah, I think they're just gonna

438
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 1: start shoulder plus a cheap option if if nothing else happened. Vikings, Steelers, Jets, Dolphins,

439
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:11,920
Speaker 1: They're kind of gonna be all.

440
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 2: Steelers are the interesting one to me, Yeah, because it

441
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 2: feels like the McCarthy thing sort of was hinting towards

442
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:19,880
Speaker 2: Rogers coming back.

443
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 1: Yes, I kind of expected it to be Rodgers, but

444
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 1: you never know. This also could be one because the

445
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,159
Speaker 1: Cardinals have so much cap space, they could ride it

446
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 1: out a little bit and wait until camp. He could

447
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 1: be someone that they almost pretend they're gonna keep and

448
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 1: they're just seeing what happens because they're not in a

449
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 1: huge dress. All right, let's keep going because I do

450
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 1: want to get to as many names as we can.

451
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 1: You are up next. Kyler's the big quarterback fish though.

452
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 2: Kyler's the big quarterback. I'll go to a smaller quarterback

453
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 2: or I guess a bigger quarterback in terms of size,

454
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 2: but smaller in terms of stature. Mac Jones and I

455
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 2: know there's been a lot of like we are gonna

456
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 2: keep him, and maybe they will, like it makes sense

457
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 2: with Brock Party's injury history to keep mac Jones. I

458
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 2: just feel like team that has been and is committed

459
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 2: to Rock Party for multiple seasons, that has been so

460
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 2: worn down in terms of meeting depth, the draft capital,

461
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 2: they've lost in terms of the trade lance trade, the

462
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey trade. If you could offer a second round

463
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 2: pick for mac Jones, are you really not? Are you

464
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,479
Speaker 2: really saying no, You're really that's not enough for us?

465
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 2: Like I could see like an not an adultin trade.

466
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Speaker 1: You would say yes, you would say yes. How about

467
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 1: the shop trade?

468
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 2: Maybe?

469
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 1: How about like a future third? Would you do that

470
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 1: like the twenty twenty seven to third?

471
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 2: No? Probably not, but I think they'll can offer more.

472
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 2: I think there's whether it's the Jets, for example, Like

473
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 2: if you're the Jets, would you offer a two for

474
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Speaker 2: mac Jones?

475
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Speaker 1: I don't think I wouldn't. I like Mac Jones a lot,

476
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Speaker 1: and I guess I would have to see how the

477
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: rest of the off season goes. Look, I mean, me

478
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: and Mac we're boys. Now, you should go back and listen.

479
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 1: I know you were very busy last week, me and

480
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Speaker 1: Max Jones. By the end of our interview, Eric Robert,

481
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 1: it's our producer, said it sounded like I was just

482
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: listening to a first date. You guys are just growing out.

483
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: So I'm a fan, But I think Mac Jones knows

484
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: he has a good situation in San Francisco. To me,

485
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: he only makes sense in very specific situations. Now, Minnesota

486
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: is the one that the most sense for both sides

487
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: where it's like, okay, I could see that, but otherwise

488
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 1: I don't know if it yeah, I don't know. If

489
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Speaker 1: a team is going to give up anything higher than three.

490
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,360
Speaker 2: What would you send JJ McCarthy back in a Mac

491
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 2: Jones trade.

492
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's hilarious, and who would be giving up

493
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,919
Speaker 1: the extra pick? There is is.

494
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: Fascinating be giving up the extra pick.

495
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: See, that's crazy?

496
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 2: How was it crazy?

497
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Speaker 1: Because I do think if you're a top ten pick

498
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 1: that you get like three years before that shine totally

499
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 1: wears off. I I still remember Josh Rosen, after one

500
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: of the worst seasons ever got traded for a second

501
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: that was.

502
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Speaker 2: Truly one d I did still have some faith on

503
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 2: that one. When it happened Josh frozen trade happened, I

504
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: was like.

505
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: JJ for Max straight up though, who says no? It's

506
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 1: it's pretty interesting.

507
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: I do think it's the Niners who say no. I do,

508
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 2: and that seems impossible, but I think it's true.

509
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: I think the forty nine ers want to keep Mac,

510
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: which is why I think it will cost a second

511
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: just because I do. They are in the ultimate win

512
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 1: now window and Purty hasn't been extremely durable, and so

513
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: it's just a great thing to have a guy that

514
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 1: can win games off the bench for you. That's fun.

515
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: I love that choice. Mac Jones. Steelers are a team

516
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: that came up in my thinking quite a bit. Pat Fryermuth.

517
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 1: We actually hit him a little bit on our last show,

518
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 1: so I won't go too long, but they barely played

519
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: him last year. He's doue nine point one million dollars

520
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: in total compensation this season. He has an extremely tradable

521
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: contract and so maybe Miccarthy has a different vision for

522
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: him that could absolutely happen. But Ali Connelly on our

523
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 1: show kind of said, well, if Rogers is going back there,

524
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: I just he didn't seem a fit with Rogers for

525
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 1: whatever reason, and actually think he would have a market.

526
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: So I think he's one of those guys when I

527
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 1: talked at the beginning of the show of like there's

528
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: some tradable contracts and there's plenty of cap space out there,

529
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 1: and like the types of guys that maybe weren't gonna

530
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: get getting traded in the past. He seems like one

531
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 1: that stands out to me because he's in the middle

532
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: of his prime. He's a solid player, but maybe just

533
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: not a fit there anymore.

534
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, And if we do see teams lean more into

535
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 2: twelve thirteen personnel playing more tight ends, as the Rams

536
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 2: stated and other teams did this offseason or there in

537
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 2: the regular season, I should say those tight ends could

538
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 2: be more valuable. You could say, hey, getting PI fied

539
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 2: with is are tight end one slash two for that

540
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: much money is not going to be a bad deal

541
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Speaker 2: for playing him seventy percent of the offensive snaps.

542
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Speaker 1: No, I think like the test for the guys at

543
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: this part of the proceedings, I mean, we might have

544
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: some big names left still, But is it a contract

545
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: you would happily give to the guy in free agency

546
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 1: anyways in Friarmouth because he signed it a little bit ago,

547
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: like would absolutely be like he would absolutely get more

548
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 1: in free agency I think than like a nine million

549
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 1: dollars per year with not many guarantees. So that one

550
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 1: makes sense to me. All Right, you're up, let's do

551
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: ten and then we'll take a break. You are the

552
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: ninth trade target right now, I got.

553
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 2: I still had a couple of big names on my board.

554
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Actually this is a.

555
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: Player who has been rumored alternately to be wanting out

556
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 2: and alternately that he wants to stay, and that is

557
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 2: Max Crosby, the edge rusher for the loss of Vegas Raiders.

558
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 2: This feels way more smoke to me around Max Crosby

559
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: this offseason than at any point over his prior tenure.

560
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 2: And we don't know if maybe the organization upset him

561
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: by keeping him out late in the year, if they

562
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 2: blame that on Pete Carroll Manny Klink Kubiak will get

563
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 2: there and say hey, we want you here. But like

564
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 2: in terms of what makes sense for the organization creating

565
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 2: Max Crosby makes sense. It is a incredibly logical thing

566
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 2: to do. Is actually, even if they could stop, still

567
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 2: probably get something significant for him. Maybe not what they

568
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 2: would have a year ago or even at the trade deadline,

569
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: but if Max Crosby wants out, you would assume the

570
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 2: Raiders eventually will accommodate that request.

571
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: Okay, just to play the other side, Why when you

572
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: have no good players does it Why is it smart

573
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: to trade your good player.

574
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 2: Because you're not They're not going to win with Max Crosby,

575
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 2: so it's better.

576
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: They don't know that team. I think they probably think

577
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: that they can win next next season, let's say twenty

578
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: twenty seven, and in theory he'd be thirty one. There

579
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: you can still be a pretty effective edge rusher there.

580
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: They did structure his contract in a way when they

581
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: gave him that extra money last year that it is

582
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: pain free, like he is pure savings trading Huim now,

583
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: And because he's so unhappy, you probably are going to

584
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: have to give him more money guaranteed to keep him

585
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: if you want to keep him. So I tend to

586
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: agree that it makes sense to trade him, But I

587
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: also I think they think about the ultimate raider of

588
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: it all and that these fans are pretty beaten down

589
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: right now and he's kind of all they have.

590
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: But they're gonna get They're gonna get a quarterback with

591
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: the first overall pick who's going to be the focus

592
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: of that organization. And there is like a at this

593
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 2: this tier w we're talking about, like Kyler Murray the

594
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 2: most important person on an organization. That's not a coaching decision.

595
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 2: That's not a mot the Austin Ford decision, that's a

596
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 2: ownership decision. That is ownership asiding we are out of

597
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 2: the Kyler Murray business. I think if Bax Crosby goes

598
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 2: to Mark Davis and says, listen, I've been beating up

599
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 2: too much, We're losing, we're not close to winning. I'm

600
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: stick of it. I want to get traded. Mark Davis

601
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: would do that because he feels like Max Crosby has

602
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: been a good soldier for a long enough time.

603
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: Okay, I like that. No, he probably should have come

604
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: higher because Jay Glazer reported he wants out, and if

605
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,479
Speaker 1: he makes it very difficult for the Raiders, then then

606
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: they might have no choice and they would have a

607
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: good market. What do you think, what do you think

608
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: he'd cost.

609
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Speaker 2: I think at least two. I don't know. If they

610
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: get a first s turnd pick of in his age,

611
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: it would be well. The problem is to Quentinn Williams

612
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: trade probably threw off a lot of trade values around

613
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: the league. Like I think the Raiders would ask for

614
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: at least what the Cowboys sent for Quentinn Williams, and

615
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: that's probably not gonna happen.

616
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: But it really depends on again, like a twenty seven

617
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: first then a twenty six second or something. I don't

618
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: think that's that crazy.

619
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: So one of the two, wow, I don't know.

620
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: Three I think it's not.

621
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 2: I don't think Quinn Williams is gonna get that much,

622
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: and I was wrong, so I don't think you could

623
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: rule it out. But if you're Lions, who I've pitched

624
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: over and over again as a mac Crosby destination, willing

625
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 2: to make that kind of trade for that second d

626
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: rusher next day.

627
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: To Hutcheson, I think I would. Although the money, the

628
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: money gets complicated for the Lions specifically, that's a crazy

629
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: amount to be paying on the edge. I'll go to

630
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: a more simple one. The Cults seemed done with Anthony Richards.

631
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: Woah.

632
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: I think someone will try.

633
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: Wow, I had a different cult. That's my number ten player.

634
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 2: But please.

635
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: You take on a little dead money, but you save

636
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: money versus the cap. It's you know, you're going into

637
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: the last year eventually rookie deal unless you wanted to,

638
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: you know, put the fifth year option, which they're obviously

639
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: not going to do. And I do think someone will

640
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: give him a shot, right like, just as that's part

641
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: of it. It'll be like the Matt Lafleur like project

642
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: to bet to back.

643
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 2: This is why I asked the question, because you're gonna

644
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: name a team and I'm gonna get excited. I will say,

645
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 2: remember that that famous Kevin O'Connell. Yeah, Anthony Richardson this

646
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: season meeting, Hey, you're gonna be a great player in

647
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: this league. Little did we know at the time maybe

648
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: that would be for the Minnesota Vikings.

649
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: I yeah, that would be That would be amazing. I

650
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: heard I heard someone who's usually like just say things

651
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: to be like, I don't know about Richardson, like he

652
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: might just be done. And I'm I was like, what

653
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: do you mean done? Just like eh? And then I

654
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: went and I watched some interviews with Richardson after the

655
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: season and he was ready to play. He was talking

656
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: about how he wanted to stay in Indianapolis because he

657
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: likes the people there and he's excited for the twenty

658
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: twenty sixties. So I was like, what does that mean done?

659
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: Because he's definitely going to get other chances. He's twenty

660
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: three years old. And so they were implying something that

661
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: I haven't seen reported anywhere, And so I don't know

662
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: why I even said it, but I think you'll.

663
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: You brought this person up just to trash what they

664
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: were going They told you, Well, just as sticking in

665
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 2: my head, maybe I shouldn't put him as high on

666
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: the list, But what seas you gave at all?

667
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a tease you gave that you have another

668
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: cult coming up on the list. Let's take a break

669
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: and we're gonna come back with the rest of our

670
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: most Intriguing Trade Targets list of twenty twenty six. Back

671
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: on NFL Daily with the show that street walkers in

672
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: Indianapolis were saying, look the not Indianapolis. Oh my god,

673
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: San Francisco. They were saying, the whole Super Bowl week

674
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: was a preamble to the real big ticket here. Really

675
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: getting myself in trouble. Let's pivot to Anthony Richardson we

676
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: just talked about. I mean, you said you had another cult,

677
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: but I cut you off before you had a spicy

678
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: potential Richardson landing spot.

679
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 2: Would you not be so enthralled? Greg? Would the street

680
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: walkers of Indianapolis and San Francisco not be so enthralled

681
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: with Anthony Richardson Kansas City chief? Would that not be fun?

682
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 1: That would be large, incredible.

683
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 2: Large quarterback for a team that's that is probably not

684
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: gonna have Cream hunt back and doesn't want to run

685
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 2: their quarterback on sneaks, red zone option, potential short term

686
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: Mahomes replacement early in the year, you get to build

687
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: them up. I know it's not it's going to be

688
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: not in your contract, but you could sign him to

689
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: a reasonable extension where maybe you build up his trade value.

690
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: Andy Reid best quarterback coach of his generation. Would you

691
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: not be excited for like four Chiefs Fanny Richardson starts

692
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: to begin the year before my Homes comes back and

693
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 2: takes over at quarterback.

694
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: I'd be incredibly excited. I think any Reid would be too.

695
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: The whole news that Gardner Minshew doesn't actually have a

696
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: torn a cl was weird.

697
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: Oh Craig, Yeah, Chris Ballard, colch GM Where where was

698
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 2: he before? Hey, like he was in Kansas City.

699
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that street walker. I just mean,

700
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: like you've seen those John Gruden videos where he keeps

701
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: bumping into people. That was that was my week. We

702
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: walked by Kyrone Williams uh during the week. You would

703
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: just see all sorts of just faces of like former

704
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: NFL players and media members. They were just they were

705
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: just everywhere. The street walker.

706
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 2: I was not. I was not watching the John Gruden videos.

707
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: I have to admit.

708
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: Oh you shouldn't. Please please, we got to pick up here.

709
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 2: If we want to get to your We're not going

710
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: to get to all thirty five. We're gonna get to

711
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 2: a bunch of them. But Colt player Michael Pittman a

712
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: wide receiver, not a quarterback. My Pittman is still a

713
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: good player. But Alec Pearce is about to be a

714
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: free agent. Michael Pittman entering the final year of his

715
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: deal twenty four million dollars unguaranteed, still a good player.

716
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 2: But if you're the Colts and you're picking between Pittman

717
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: and Pierce Pierce is younger, he is harder to find

718
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: in terms of his skill set with his speed ascending,

719
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: perhaps or as Pittman more on the descending side, Tyler

720
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: Warren maybe can take some of the Pittman stuff in

721
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 2: terms of the more physical we're out running middle of

722
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 2: the field stuff. Does feel like maybe it could be

723
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: like a we're picking one of these two guys, and

724
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: we'd rather pick Pierce at the same price range versus Pittman,

725
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 2: especially if you can get a pick for Michael Pittman

726
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 2: maybe in return for that one year deal.

727
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: Love It was one of the last players I had

728
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: written down to in terms of my like, Actually, I

729
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 1: think there's a realistic chance it happens. He was on

730
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: our show last week. He brought up unprompted that he's

731
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: not sure what the Colts are going to do with him.

732
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't even ask, bro, And by

733
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: that I think he meant trade, cut, extend either way

734
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: he's entering the or just keep. He's entering the last

735
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: year of his deal. He's still a pretty young player.

736
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: They gave him that contract early, so I think if

737
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: you're trading for him, you're not feeling like he's descending,

738
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: but I think it makes sense because it's all savings

739
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 1: to trade him. They have about thirty five million dollars

740
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: in cap space, which is plenty, but they have about

741
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: as much to do this offseason as almost any team,

742
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: including paying a quarterback. So I could see that. I

743
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: like that.

744
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, all she got Greg.

745
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go cave on Thibodeau. Not spicy, but last

746
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: year of his contract, fifth year option, fourteen point five

747
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: million dollars. Should I just do a doubleheader here because

748
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: I think it's a conversation together. I don't know if

749
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: you I don't know if you wrote down Dexter Lawrence

750
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: or not.

751
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 2: I mean, Dexter Lawrence is I think, more unique of

752
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: a player. They don't have like a like Dexter Lawrence replacement.

753
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: It just does feel like he you know, if you

754
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: were presenting him as the best run plugging nose tackle

755
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 2: in football. That's what Giants fans thought he was heading

756
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: into last season, fact that they were the worst run

757
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: defense in foot and I don't recall it being particularly close.

758
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: I'm not blaming that on Dexter Lawrence, but he was

759
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 2: not able to overcome that. I just think Tibodeau has

760
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 2: like they're more likely to have easy replacement for him

761
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 2: in terms of itself, a larger Abdul Carter role on

762
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 2: the right in.

763
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 1: Your two right and you know, caveon Thibodeau to review

764
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: top ten pick been solid, like he's gonna get a

765
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: decent second contract. It's probably just not from the Giants.

766
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: You know, maybe hasn't lived up to the draft status,

767
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 1: but should be starting or close to it in the NFL,

768
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: and they can save a lot, and it just makes sense.

769
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence is one of those names when I'm just

770
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: going through the highest paid players at each position list,

771
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is a good one. This

772
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: could be my tuny. This is my tuny baby. And

773
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: here's the case. Twenty nine years old, he's quote unquote

774
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: only due eighteen point five million dollars on his contract

775
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: this year, which I think is a tradable contract, no

776
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: guaranteed money involved. Did not play great last year, was

777
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: coming off a really serious injury, and I don't think

778
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: he was quite the same player, but you're kind of

779
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: banking on a one more year removed from the surgery,

780
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: and just did not seem happy there. And I don't

781
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: nobody was happy with the Giants. But that's why I'm

782
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: doing the double. I just think, maybe, Joe Shane, you

783
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: actually get something saucy for Dexter Lawrence where maybe you

784
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't for Caveon Thibodeau. I'm playing my flag. That's my tuney,

785
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: that's your tuney.

786
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not at Tony time yet, but I give

787
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 2: another Giants player. I just being like a.

788
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: Big name player. I don't think he's been being talked

789
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: about as a potential trade target.

790
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:32,919
Speaker 2: Maybe he is. It's a good one.

791
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: I just think he's one that logically makes a little

792
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: sense for me. All Right, you're up. I just took two.

793
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: You could go to if you want.

794
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you nine. I'm gonna give you nine

795
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: players who all fit into the same group for me.

796
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: Dude, nine is that allowed? I thought you're gonna give

797
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: me nine JJ McCarthy, But oh, I don't know if

798
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: I'm allowing this, but I'll I'll take I'll listen to

799
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: the case and see what.

800
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get as many names in the pot

801
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 2: as possible. That's my case, okay, And all these guys

802
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: are in the same group where probably not likely any

803
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 2: of them get traded in terms of each individual one,

804
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 2: but I wouldn't be shocked if two or three got traded.

805
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 2: This is the fresh Start club.

806
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: Okay, and a lot of those are separate on the

807
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: on the graphic, we have a separate little fresh start club.

808
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay. Fresh Star club includes Deontay Banks form he

809
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 2: first round picking cornerback for the Giants who has been

810
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 2: buried on the depth chart and struggled. Kalay Ringo the

811
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: Eagles cornerback who has been ultimately disappointing and not playing

812
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 2: very much. Nate Hobbs, the one non rookie contracts who

813
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 2: signed with the Packers last year, was very disappointing for them.

814
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 2: Might be a cut candidate, but could get traded. David

815
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: Leaguet Panthers first drum pick now they're wide receiver three.

816
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 2: Isaac Grendo looked pretty promising late in the MAS in

817
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: year one, barely played, didn't eve play at all. I

818
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 2: think an offense in year two. Jackson Powers Johnson the

819
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 2: college center who the Raiders don't think could play center

820
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 2: who moved to guard, got hurt. Thought a favor could

821
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 2: be a opportunity there for him to move on. Roman Wilson,

822
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: Steelers wide receiver who has twelve catches in two seasons.

823
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: It's not live up to expectations there. When everybody thinks

824
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: the Steelers have a one hundred percent hit rate on

825
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: day two wide receivers, he has been an exception to

826
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 2: that rule. Caleb Johnson, who was one of the more

827
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 2: highly drafted running backs in last year's class, barely played

828
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: his first season. Mike Tomlin lost all faith in him.

829
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if McCarthy is going to find more

830
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 2: faith in him. I think that coaching change helps. But

831
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: Caleb Johnson and then bj Ojalari the Cardinals at Rusher,

832
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 2: I don't think he's a free agent of the veget

833
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 2: double check but buried on the depth chart there. Believe

834
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 2: he has one year left on his contract if I'm

835
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 2: not mistaken on double check and as we record this,

836
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: but just feels like a guy who maybe could find

837
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 2: a fresh start. Efsewhere had some success earlier in his career.

838
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: He's entering the final year of his rookie deal. Greg

839
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 2: we crammed nine guys if I count correctly into the

840
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 2: fourteenth pick there.

841
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: This is a crazy thing that you just did. I'm

842
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: not sure how I feel about it. I think listeners,

843
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if they count as hits. Here's the thing.

844
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: If I was your editor, yeah, or your host in

845
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 1: this case in the past, I would take out that's

846
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: right for the Rota World Fantasy Football magazine of like

847
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, I mean twenty ten, I would have taken

848
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: JPJ Jackson, Powers Johnson out of this, put it into

849
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: the main group, because I think that's spicy. It was

850
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: a pretty high pick that I think a lot of

851
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: teams would be intrigued by. He is relatively a name,

852
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: and I think it could happen. The rest of these

853
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: guys are probably some of them are more likely to

854
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 1: get cut than traded. I mean, Isaac Grendo, I would

855
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: just be like, sorry, you need that's not high enough

856
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: octane to make this list. Wow, Banks, I think is

857
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: getting cut, mate, you know, if they can't trade him.

858
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: But you're right, it could contract. It could It's same

859
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: with Roman Wilson. You're right, it could be. It could

860
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: be something where you get like a late round pick.

861
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 1: And so I like Bill's nine player Fresh Star Club.

862
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: I'm taking Powers Johnson because I think that that's a

863
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: that's a good one. I'm taking that. I'm taking that

864
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: out on the graphic. I'm taking him out and I'm

865
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: putting him in the regular graphic and we're going to

866
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: make the fresh Start club. But I like that because

867
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,959
Speaker 1: these are different players to think about that are smart.

868
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: Nahaps is a good one that I would not have

869
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: thought of. I'm still going for some big names that

870
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: are just this is just guesswork. Dron payin. The Commanders

871
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: have a lot of space. He is a really good player,

872
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: so it probably isn't going to happen. But sixteen points

873
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: seven million dollars in savings, only four million dollars guaranteed,

874
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 1: only twenty nine years old, it's essentially a one year deal.

875
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 1: The reason I don't think it's likely is the Commanders

876
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: are bad at football and he's good at football, and

877
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: they don't really need the space. But he's kind of

878
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: an old regime guy, and I just thought, like, when

879
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: I saw a guy with that, I have a price

880
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: that just kind of cleanly comes off. I think they're

881
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: going to be a team like the Jags that we've

882
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 1: mentioned that just got to be in the mix. Wouldn't

883
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: surprise me if the Maners are pretty active in trades,

884
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: and he was kind of the guy from their team

885
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: that stood out to me.

886
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Justsely Newton is there as like their

887
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 2: third defensive tackle. They could expand his role. They can

888
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 2: go out and get another Niners player, which has been

889
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 2: Adam Peter's kind of default over the past couple of years,

890
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: but makes sense to me. I have a different NFC

891
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 2: East tackle on my list. We've already named two in

892
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 2: Dexter Lawrence, we named John Payne. I'll go Kenny Clark,

893
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 2: the Cowboys defensive tackle because I don't know if you

894
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 2: notice correct, they have a lot suddenly at defensive tackle.

895
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: They have ohso o'diggi Zua making a lot of money,

896
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 2: Quentin Williams, so they traded a massive amount for is

897
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: going to get a significant extension I would assume from

898
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: the Cowboys in the near future. Kenny Clark. His contract

899
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: was very cheap last year, not going to be very

900
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: cheap if I'm not mistaken this year. And for a

901
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 2: guy who's going to be maybe third in your defensive

902
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: tackle rotation, is there a better use of those resources

903
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: if you're the Cowboys. I know they wanted him as

904
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: part of the trade, but he gets it's a twenty

905
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: trading the math bad here. I believe it's over twenty

906
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: million dollars next year for Kenny Clark, where he's going

907
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 2: to be a rotation defensive tackle for you just seems

908
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 2: like maybe they could use that money elsewhere.

909
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: Thirty one years old, I thought about him, and I

910
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: thought he also could be a candidate to just be

911
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: straight out cut because it would be pure savings twenty

912
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: one point five yeah, million dollars whether they trade or

913
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: cut him. The reason why I think I didn't write

914
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: him down in the end was I was like, I

915
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: just don't think Jerry's going to want to take that.

916
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: Like all that they just talked about how much Kenny

917
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: Clark is going to help their run defense, and they

918
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: love Kenny Clark and he's such a big part of

919
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: this Quinn williamstraight and I just feel like it's a

920
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: human nature thing is they don't want to take that

921
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: l But I actually do think you're right. I think

922
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: it makes a lot of sense. And would a team

923
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: trade something for Kenny Clark for that salary? Yeah, probably,

924
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: I think you're right.

925
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: Itkes a six four seven. Maybe they give him a

926
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: new contract where he makes last but he has another

927
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 2: Gary Teder after the season. Maybe they do that.

928
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's a good one. No, that's a good one.

929
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: With my next trade candidate, I think it's time for

930
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: delivering results presented by Uber eats. When football makes you hungry,

931
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: order uber eats. I'm actually surprised it's taking this long

932
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: for me to get to Tanner McKee. Or you the

933
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: quarterback of the Eagles. You laugh? What about Tanner McKee

934
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: makes you laugh? Come on?

935
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a good one. It wasn't on my list,

936
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 2: but now that I think about it, I could see

937
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 2: is there are teams. I feel like the Internet loves

938
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 2: Tanner McKey. Do you think teams love Tanner McKey?

939
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: I am the Internet. We are representing the Internet.

940
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 2: Okay.

941
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: I think there's probably a you know, I'm trying to

942
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: think of who around the league has been with him.

943
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: You know, could they consider him in Indianapolis? Probably not,

944
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: because that's just going to be Daniel Jones and I

945
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: think Riley Leonard. It would kind of play the role

946
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: that McKee in theory could be, which would be like

947
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: the guy who gets us by until Daniel didn't.

948
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: Kevin Patullo just get hired in Miami.

949
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: Miami, Danner McKee. That would be fun. Yeah, what a

950
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: weird staff that is in Miami now that I'm putting

951
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 1: it together. In general, big tall, a little more athletic

952
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: than you think. I think fits in the system. Our

953
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: friends at the PHL Y Show actually did a thought

954
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: exercise where and I thought about this too. I mean,

955
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: is there a world where the Eagles considered trading Jalen

956
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 1: Hurts and keeping Tanner McKee.

957
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 2: That's what I was going to ask you.

958
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: I think if the contract was a little more forgivable,

959
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: and I think then it wouldn't be as crazy. But

960
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: the Eagles would take on so much dead money. I

961
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: know they did that with Carson Wentz, but it just

962
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: doesn't feel necessary. It would all be about twenty twenty

963
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: seven if they decided to do that, And like, can

964
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: they find a team that's actually going to give a

965
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: couple high picks for Hurts? Yeah? Probably, but even that

966
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: I'm not too sure about. So I kind of ruled

967
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: against it in my own my own head. But shout

968
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: out to uh our producers Eric Roberts and Chris Babona,

969
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: who had the Tanner McKee tape ready. He looked awesome

970
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: in the preseason in general Bill and looked great in

971
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: the regular season last year or twenty twenty four, but

972
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: not not as good when he played in twenty twenty five.

973
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Dolphins call you. I assume Kevin Batula gives gives

974
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: them Howie's number. Yeah, they call you and say, we

975
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: want to trade for Tanner McKee. What if you're Howie Roseman.

976
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: Are you insisting on? If you're gonna let Tanner McKee

977
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 2: go out the door?

978
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 1: Third?

979
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 2: Three? Dolphin's gonna pick rotively high. I would assume third

980
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 2: would make sense. Maybe at maybe you want like a

981
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 2: comp pick or on a sorry conditional pick. If he plays,

982
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 2: you know, start your routine.

983
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: Get a conditional second. They once got a second for

984
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: aj Feely just to use some ej it, just to

985
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: use some Eagles history. I mean, they're not that different.

986
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: But you're right. I don't know if the if the

987
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: rest of the league likes McKee as much. I do

988
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: know people really do believe in tannamckey in that building

989
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: and maybe elsewhere. So I think I think he might

990
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: be like a like a pretty compelling Arizona landing spot

991
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: of just like let's just take a swing with like

992
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick that converts to a third or something.

993
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: So he's someone I'm intrigued by. That was delivery and

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Speaker 1: demand delivery partner of the NFL. Order. Now I've only

997
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: got a couple more on my like, I think it's

998
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: realistic less and then I have a long like these

999
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: are just fun names to think about list, but why

1000
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: don't you.

1001
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 2: Go, well do I will give you one more realistic

1002
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 2: one and then we'll get to the fun ones. Okay,

1003
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 2: Quentin Johnston is my last realistic one like that where

1004
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 2: regime inherited him from the prior guys. He's been okay,

1005
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 2: obviously has had moments of really effectiveness, has almost he's

1006
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 2: been very frustrating. I still think his best role is

1007
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: on the slot. I think he's better as a power

1008
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 2: slot than he is as an outside guy. That role

1009
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: with by McConkie and Keenan Allen there last year for

1010
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: the Chargers was occupied Ronde Gatson took a lot of

1011
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 2: his usage. Like before Nie got done of the line up,

1012
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 2: Quentin Johnston was playing really well, once Gaston was on

1013
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 2: the field, and I think he's going to be on

1014
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: the field for years to come, Quentin Johnston's role really diminished.

1015
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 2: He was more just a strictly downfield guy. Seventeen and

1016
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 2: a half million fifty year option coming due in twenty seven.

1017
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 2: The Chargers have to decide on this year. That's after

1018
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 2: they're going to pay mcconky. Justin Herbert's ready getting a

1019
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: lot of money. It just feels like there's a benefit

1020
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: for him elsewhere. I think there's teams who would benefit

1021
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 2: from him on like a two year deal in the

1022
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 2: twenty I think twenty two million dollars range not very expensive,

1023
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 2: and the Chargers could probably still get like a three

1024
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 2: or a four for me for Quentin Johnston, So I

1025
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 2: think there's upside there.

1026
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: I think you can even get a two potentially. It

1027
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 1: did not think of him. This is why it's good

1028
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: to have these ideas bouncing off each other. I think

1029
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: if you're two into Chargers media, which I am, you

1030
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: know how much Jim Harbaugh loves Quinton Johnson. Although he

1031
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: loves everyone, he just loves football players. Yeah, this this

1032
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: almost hits me a little bit like the tuney one

1033
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: where now that you put the case together from the

1034
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: outside looking at there is a logical sense too. No

1035
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: that it doesn't make sense, you know, because to me,

1036
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 1: I think you're in this window. You like Quinton Johnston,

1037
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: you have him under control for two more years. It

1038
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: would surprise me, But at this point in the list,

1039
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 1: they almost all would would surprise me a little. I'm

1040
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna group my last three that I think

1041
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: are realistic together, So I'm cheating like you did once

1042
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: because they're all tight ends.

1043
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 2: You just think the two guys with the same pick

1044
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: right before me.

1045
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I cheated too. You're not trying to very shock

1046
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: cole Comet, Dawson Knox, and TJ. Hockinson. And it's funny

1047
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: because I already mentioned Friarmouth. So that is four tight

1048
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: ends total that all have these tradable contracts that all

1049
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: don't make a ton of sense just going through them quickly.

1050
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: Comett is due about ten million dollars guaranteed. He's the

1051
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: clear tight end too. They could use the room the Bears,

1052
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: although I think they could use cole Comet too, so

1053
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 1: that's that's not a must trade Dawson Knox they could

1054
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: save ten million dollars cutting or trading him. He's thirty

1055
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: years old. The contract's fine, but man, a team like

1056
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: the Saints that would love a tight end. I think

1057
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: they would absolutely give up something for Dawson Knox. I

1058
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 1: can really see that one happening, and then TJ Hockinson.

1059
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: You'd save about nine million dollars a little less. Same

1060
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: as cutting him, you would take on some dead money.

1061
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 1: He's one where I don't know if I'm that excited

1062
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: about paying fifteen point four million dollars to TJ. Howkinson,

1063
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: whether I'm the Vikings or another team. So he's just

1064
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: someone I've kind of got my eye on and I'm

1065
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,479
Speaker 1: throwing him into my tight end pack.

1066
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 2: It's been tough post Acl tear. I don't think he's

1067
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 2: been the same guy.

1068
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: He might be more likely to get traded than cut

1069
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: type of guy. I mean, more likely to get cut

1070
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: than traded. Sorry about that.

1071
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 2: I feel like they're in that discussion. So I do

1072
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 2: think that Hockinson, of those three things, most likely to

1073
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 2: not be on his roster next year. But that SAMs

1074
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty cut or trade for.

1075
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: Me between the tight end free agents, which we hit

1076
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: on our last show. And then these guys, I feel

1077
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: like fifty percent of the tight ends ranked eighth to

1078
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: seventeenth in the NFL are going to move this offseat

1079
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of like pretty good tight ends

1080
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: available if you need one this offseason.

1081
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 2: A lot and a lot of tight end.

1082
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 1: Okay, now we're getting into the fun ones. Let's do it.

1083
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 2: Rashie Rice.

1084
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: Oh, that's not as fun just because of the off

1085
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 1: field stuff, but it does sound realistic.

1086
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 2: Rashie Rice on my list of fun ones.

1087
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie, Yes, okay, let's let's stop there with the chiefs. Okay,

1088
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 1: do you have another chief though?

1089
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 2: Oh no, those are my two remaining chiefs.

1090
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: Okay. I think McDuffie is a sneaky good one. I

1091
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: think we should Yeah, we should put McDuffie just on

1092
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,959
Speaker 1: the list here. I don't think we're she Rice because

1093
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: of the off field stuff is tradeable. It could be.

1094
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 2: Wrong, but I wonder if they're just we're done, We're

1095
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 2: trading him for whatever we can get, washing our hands.

1096
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, if they wanted to trade McDuffie, it'd be kind

1097
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: of like the lagarious sneed deal.

1098
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: Why that's that's sort of why and go back to

1099
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 2: Marcus Peters, who they traded at this point when he

1100
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 2: was on his rookie deal. They have not been They're

1101
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 2: very comfortable drafting cornerbacks, and they're very comfortable trading cornerbacks

1102
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 2: and getting values okay, at the end of their contracts.

1103
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: This one don't. I don't want to officially put on

1104
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: the list, but I'm I'm just thrown out. It's my

1105
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: it's my section of players. We'll get to a little

1106
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: later the which wouldn't shock me, but I couldn't quite

1107
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: get there. Chris Jones. The problem is, I don't think

1108
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,240
Speaker 1: there'd be a market for him. Because he's guaranteed thirty

1109
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: five million dollars this year. You would save fifteen point six.

1110
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: But does anyone want to pay Chris Jones thirty five

1111
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: million dollars this year? He's just someone to think about,

1112
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 1: I thought.

1113
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 2: I just feel like he's worth more to the Chiefs than.

1114
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I'm not going to write him down.

1115
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: McDuffie gets the full treatment. Eric on the list. I'm

1116
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: going to go for. I have two really spicy ones, Okay,

1117
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: one Christian of the real.

1118
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 2: Okay, sell me on this one.

1119
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: Come on, is he a Rabel guy. There was a

1120
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: lot of whispers when he wasn't coming back from that

1121
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: hamstring injury. And he wants the contract. Will the Pats

1122
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: want to pay him Stingley's certain money because that's that's

1123
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 1: what he deserves here. Probably he's so good. He's so good.

1124
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: I would hate it. Is there is there any chance

1125
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: that they see all their needs that they have, or

1126
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 1: even see like an AJ Brown or whoever. You know,

1127
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: it would be like a Brian Thomas, you know whoever

1128
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: it does, and they think about we don't want to

1129
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: pay him Patrick Curtan money. It's just a little vibe,

1130
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: which I could be wrong about that. Just maybe this

1131
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: regime doesn't love him quite as much as the rest

1132
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: of the world does.

1133
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: I would be very surprise if you've ever made I

1134
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 2: think about the Rams training two first round thanks for

1135
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: Jayalen Ramsey after three years a face rookie deal. Would

1136
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: you make that deal if you're the Rams and you

1137
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 2: have a huge need of cornerback.

1138
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: Yes, I think Christian Gonzales is worth worth the move,

1139
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 1: you know. I Christian Gonzalez did say like, look, I

1140
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: want to be back. This is where I want to be.

1141
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: Of course he's gonna say that. I'm sure it's true too.

1142
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: I just I and I do hope that Patriots, who

1143
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 1: have plenty of cap space, just just give him that contract.

1144
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: And it could be something where it just it just

1145
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: strings out and he doesn't get the deal, or it

1146
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,479
Speaker 1: goes all the way into training camp and he holds out,

1147
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: or they they have the franchise tag that they kind

1148
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: of hold over him into next year. Just it just

1149
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't it wouldn't totally shock me. So I thought that

1150
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: was a fun one of I have two like blockbusters

1151
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: that would just not like totally stun me. I'll put

1152
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: there Patriots fans are going to be mad if we

1153
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: just put this guy on the list, But I think

1154
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it all right.

1155
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 2: I would be surprised, but I'm not unpossible. I'm gonna

1156
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 2: save my tuny for my final pick. Okay, this is

1157
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 2: my next to last pick here.

1158
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: The problem is, you don't know what the tuney is

1159
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: until it happens. You didn't know you know that you

1160
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: called tuney until it happened.

1161
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 2: I say a player, a player nobody is talking about

1162
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 2: being traded where I could see a strong case for

1163
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 2: him being traded, but.

1164
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: You've had a couple of those. If if you got

1165
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: you know you you threw out McDuffie there, or maybe

1166
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 1: I did you you had Quinton Johnson, that could account

1167
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: it as your tuny. But okay, I hear you that

1168
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: that's throughout the other names.

1169
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 2: I'm designating a tuney here. This one's kind of tough,

1170
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 2: but it is one of the Steelers as rushers. So okay,

1171
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 2: Alex Highsmith, Nick her Big, t J. Watt in that order.

1172
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: I love it, and that and Herbig and Heighsmith specifically

1173
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: were on my like longer living board. My my question

1174
00:55:55,960 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: would be just why like it? I agree it seems possible,

1175
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: but I don't think they should do it, And so

1176
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: my question would be why, But there is talk about it.

1177
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 2: If you say need a Tanner McKee and you knew

1178
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 2: someone who obsesses over edge rushing talent, would you not

1179
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 2: call the Eagles and say, hey, look, Nick Krbig, Tanner McKee,

1180
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 2: two guys and rookie deals. You get a cost controlled

1181
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 2: player for another year who had phenomenal pass rushing numbers,

1182
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 2: and we get our quarterback of the future and we

1183
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 2: have Aaron Rodgers under center. Does that not seem like

1184
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 2: a cratch my back, I scratcher a situation.

1185
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: It's a great it's a great question would you rather have?

1186
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd rather just have Nick Kerrbrigg. It's a

1187
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: burge in hand, and you are going to have to

1188
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: give him a big contract sooner than than later. Right,

1189
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 1: how many more years does he have? Honest deal? Yeah,

1190
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: and you know, one of the cheapest, like most underpaid

1191
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: players in the league and just a pure great pass rusher.

1192
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: Just seems like a guy they should be signing long term.

1193
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: The problem is tj is do thirty two million dollars

1194
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: guaranteed the next two seasons, and to me, that contract

1195
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: is borderline untradeable. They would never do it anyways, So

1196
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,479
Speaker 1: it's I don't think the I don't think that's gonna

1197
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: match up. I'm I'm considering that tj WA is not

1198
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: going anywhere, and so that leaves you with high Smith,

1199
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: which is like, yeah, you could get a good return

1200
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: for him and then you pay her big and you

1201
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: get something for hei smooth. Sure, But I also think,

1202
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: like why high Smith's great and his contract's pretty good too,

1203
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: Like I think he they got him at a nice

1204
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: number and he's in the middle of his prime. They

1205
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: do have plenty of cap space, so that makes it

1206
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: less likely, But I do I do see where you're

1207
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: going here.

1208
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 2: This is not about the savings as much as it's

1209
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 2: just getting pieces that you need that you don't have

1210
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 2: access to. That's why I feel like McKee would make

1211
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 2: sense as the potential herb trade.

1212
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: That is really I mean, you know who is definitely

1213
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: doing that? The Eagles? I mean, do you have to

1214
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: give up McKee plus to get her big? I don't know.

1215
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: He has a quarterback.

1216
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 2: He's a quarterback and you need.

1217
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: Those they would be thrilled for for that trade. All Right,

1218
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: I'm going create I'm going with my other total wild

1219
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: card along those same lines.

1220
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 2: Uh Oh.

1221
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: Would the Eagles ever considered Jalen Carter? I doubt it.

1222
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: But coming off of a season where you know he's

1223
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: kind of been a hit or miss player, they're gonna

1224
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: have to pay him so much money? Do they? Do

1225
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: they ever think about getting a year ahead of things

1226
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: and get the mother load for Jalen Carter? Obviously, I

1227
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: don't think that's particularly likely. But Howie Roseman's a crazy guy,

1228
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: and Jalen Carter is like, man, you call up forget you.

1229
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: You were talking about Andy Reid before. I mean, help

1230
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: your old friend Andy Reid. You could have your next

1231
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: Chris Jones here. You would get the mother load, and

1232
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: it would allow Philadelphia to start paying everyone else. Don't

1233
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: think it's really likely, but I just thought guns and

1234
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: him were these fun, sort of big time swings that

1235
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: a GM and more importantly me could make.

1236
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 2: It feels like you would need to get a defensive

1237
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 2: lineman back. I think if you're Howie Roaspin, you have

1238
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 2: to get like a young piece who's going to make

1239
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 2: a difference now back, and that that I think is

1240
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 2: the tough part of making this trade. Like you could

1241
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 2: call the Rams and say, hey, we want Kobe Turner

1242
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 2: back as part of this trade. But like, at what

1243
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 2: point do you just be like, hey, we already have

1244
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 2: this guy we think is really good. Why not keep him?

1245
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, on some level, it would be a little bit

1246
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: of a bet against Jalen Carter.

1247
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 2: Based which is not defensible, not indefensible.

1248
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: Right, based on how his career has gone so far.

1249
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: I think the risk of that, and and why I

1250
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: don't think they would do is like, look, these defensive tackles,

1251
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: they develop more slowly and obviously he has shown the

1252
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: ability to totally take over games. And so this has

1253
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: been like the pre prime Jalen Carter. Imagine what the

1254
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: prime Jalen Carter is going to be. It's kind of great.

1255
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: I want a different category for those two guys because

1256
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get killed that we're putting them on our list,

1257
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: Gonzales and Carter a little separate category. Eric, that's like, uh,

1258
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: you know, wild cards.

1259
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 2: The social media death threat section of the trade column. Okay,

1260
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 2: time has come, Greg, Time for the Tuney, the twenty

1261
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 2: twenty six player nobody is talking about as a trade

1262
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 2: candidate who I would not be shocked moves on this offseason.

1263
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 2: Broncos cornerback Riley Moss.

1264
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Okay, not.

1265
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 2: The most exciting name. I understand that Tuney wasn't.

1266
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: I thought, for a second, you're about to you talk

1267
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: about the best quarter track in the league.

1268
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,919
Speaker 2: I was like, no, no, no, I mean that would

1269
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 2: be wild but I don't think that is likely. But

1270
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 2: they drafted Jay Baron in the first round last year,

1271
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 2: didn't get a ton of playing time. Jaquimcbillin is excellent

1272
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 2: in the slot. I think they keep Nick Villain in

1273
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 2: the slot signed him to an extension. Rolly Moss entering

1274
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 2: the final year of his deal, a good player, but

1275
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 2: an easy scapegoat for the Broncos. They could keep them

1276
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 2: keep Baron as their backup as the number three quarter

1277
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 2: number four quarterback basically, and then put him in the

1278
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 2: lineup next year. But that is a team that still,

1279
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 2: you know, has some draft capital downstream missing from all

1280
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 2: the Russell Wilson, the Seawan paynon trades. They could add

1281
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 2: more depth to other parts of their roster. They could

1282
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 2: try to get a receiver. Riley Moss is a good player.

1283
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 2: They're not going to sign him, I would assume as

1284
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 2: a free agent they could sign him, I guess, and

1285
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 2: move Baron into the slot, moved from McMillan, who's an RFA.

1286
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 2: But I just think that they seem to signal they're

1287
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 2: not going to be in the Riley Moss business for

1288
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 2: the long term by drafting Baron, and so I think

1289
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:41,439
Speaker 2: trading Moss would make sense.

1290
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: Now, did you consider, you know, you got a lot

1291
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Speaker 1: of pop for the Tuny call. Potentially he's a future

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, he ends up winning Protector of the Year.

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Speaker 1: He'll always be the first ever Protector of the Year,

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Speaker 1: a household name if you're into football, maybe not, you're

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Speaker 1: brilliant more than Riley Moss. Did you consider Riley Moss

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Speaker 1: not enough pop for this spot?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Riley Moss is on television more often than any

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Speaker 2: other cornerback in football because they're constantly throwing at him.

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Speaker 2: So and typically he's chasing downto the receivers, so you

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Speaker 2: see the back of his jersey quite often. So I

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Speaker 2: do think Riley Moss is more of a household name

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Speaker 2: than Joe Toney. But I'm willing to be sold.

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Speaker 1: Over and a pioneer, I mean, and he does get

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Speaker 1: talked about a lot, like you know, Bomani Jones is

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Speaker 1: always talking about Riley Moss. Nate Tice, we talked about it.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about him a lot.

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Speaker 1: I think he's been an underrated NFL player. I think

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Speaker 1: that's fair to say. I don't know if you have

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Speaker 1: a monster trade market, so the only thing you got

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Speaker 1: to be is right here, Bill. But if it's for

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Speaker 1: like a future, for addition, a third like, that's not

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Speaker 1: a lot of pop. That's I don't know what he's

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Speaker 1: going to cost.

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Speaker 2: Toney was a fourth round pick.

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Speaker 1: No, that's right, I'm saying. And what is Riley Moss

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Speaker 1: getting traded for. I don't know if it's that much

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Speaker 1: higher than.

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Speaker 2: I would assume, like like a high Day three pick,

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Speaker 2: and that seems reasonable enough to me.

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Speaker 1: I would never doubt the man, the myth, the legend,

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Speaker 1: Bill Barnwell. That was who he was saving all this time.

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Speaker 1: I do have two more guys.

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Speaker 2: I was saving BTJ, and you took him in the

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Speaker 2: top eight.

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Speaker 1: You can you can claim that too.

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Speaker 2: Even though you told me, let's do it in order

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Speaker 2: of most likely to be traded the least likely to

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Speaker 2: be traded, and.

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Speaker 1: Then was playing mind games. I thought, I honestly think

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Speaker 1: BTJ is pretty high up on the list. Maybe you're right.

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Speaker 1: I pushed him up because it sounded fun.

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Speaker 2: It's fun, no question.

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Speaker 1: It just feels that's more of a gut feel. Logically,

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Speaker 1: there's other guys that seem more logical. I just have

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Speaker 1: a gut feeling that like he's getting traded, so I'm

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Speaker 1: sticking with that. I have two more guys that I

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Speaker 1: think are going to be the final two on our

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Speaker 1: on our we'll separate. This is your tuny, but it's

1339
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: a teammate of Brian Thomas Jr. If they traded tradevon Walk,

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01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: it'd be a fifteen million dollars in savings. That's more

1341
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:05,919
Speaker 1: likely an extension. I don't think it's gonna happen because

1342
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: I think they love trayvon Walker, But you never know.

1343
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 1: If they just felt like they can't get that deal done,

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01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: I think there'd be a good market for him. I

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01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: find him interesting. And then Jesse Bates was the other

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01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: name that like. Is another team giving up a big

1347
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 1: thing for Jesse Bates right now? Would the Falcons even

1348
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: want to do that? Why would they want to? He's

1349
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: twenty nine years old, He's do thirteen million dollars in salary.

1350
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 1: They're in the middle of their cap space, but he's

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01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 1: entering the final year of his contract. He was someone

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01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 1: I thought, you can't see like a Rams or a

1353
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 1: team that just wants a calm hand in the secondary?

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Speaker 1: Do they I could, I could see that. I tried

1355
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: to look for new regimes. The problem is Bill and

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Speaker 1: this supports the idea that there'll be a lot of trades.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's a new regime right now, Like half the league

1358
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: is different. Though those are my final two.

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Speaker 2: I like them.

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Speaker 1: We got to twenty eight plus eight from the Fresh

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Speaker 1: Start Club. Do you have any because I'm pushing against

1362
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 1: your time here, but it got a little bit of

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01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: time before you got to pick up, you know, a

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01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: few more your lovely child. I know that's it for

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01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 1: our our main list. Do you want to just rapid

1366
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: fire throw out anything that the guys you left off

1367
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: that you find interesting that maybe they're more cuts. Maybe

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01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:19,479
Speaker 1: you just don't think it makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Lugerious sneed Okay, he talked to him a little bit

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01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 2: of get cut, but not gonna get traded. I would

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01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 2: assume he'll get cut. Maybe they, you know, may the

1372
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 2: Chiefs trade a seventh thrown pick for him and he

1373
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 2: takes a pay cut. Troll Bernard with the bills do

1374
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 2: nine point seven million dollars next year. Jill and Waddle,

1375
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 2: who I don't think is likely to be traded, but

1376
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 2: you would certainly figure is going to be. There'll be

1377
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 2: teams calling about Jill and Wattle. Dan Moore, who was

1378
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 2: kind of a mess in Tennessee. Maybe an ill fated contract.

1379
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Speaker 2: A lot of teams.

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Speaker 1: He's staying that's a cut.

1381
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 2: His contract should be cut, but his contract is guaranteed.

1382
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 2: I wonder if they'll you know Tennessee will try to

1383
01:05:56,320 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 2: move on from him. Jerry Judy, who I I I

1384
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 2: realized is the modern day Kenny Britt where he puts

1385
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 2: up like okay to good numbers exclusively on bad football teams.

1386
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Speaker 1: That's not who you want to be. I looked at him,

1387
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: and then I just thought the contract was untradeable. There's

1388
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: so much guaranteed money that I was like, I think

1389
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 1: that would require them needing to throw in as a

1390
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: salary dump someone else taking on his money. So I

1391
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 1: guess that's possible, but it's that's unfortunate for them.

1392
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,439
Speaker 2: I've got one more okay, and it's in your honor. Yeah,

1393
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 2: I'm finishing up with this man, and you will have to.

1394
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 2: Raiders will have to eat some of the money to

1395
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 2: get this done. Are pal Gino Smith's.

1396
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Speaker 1: Fun That's a funny one. Probably untradeable on the contract

1397
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 1: he has, but you never know. You never know.

1398
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 2: Eighteen million guaranteed next year, if the Raiders eat ten

1399
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 2: million and Gino the rest of the unnguaranteed money comes off,

1400
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 2: and you can get Gino for one year and eight

1401
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 2: million bucks. Would you not be interested?

1402
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 1: I would be interested? Would would the Vikings or the

1403
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: Steelers be interested in all that. Again, I think it's

1404
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: going to be Rogers to the Steelers, but with the

1405
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 1: you know, it's probably not gonna be the Jets eeth.

1406
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy. The problem with that scenario,

1407
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: I guess why I didn't list him was I think

1408
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: that takes a team really wanting that, Like that's a

1409
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: lot of hoops to jump through, and so it just

1410
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 1: seems like he's more likely to just get straight cut,

1411
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 1: and then a team who would like to give him

1412
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 1: eight million dollars just okay, then we think about him.

1413
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 2: Then yeah, but.

1414
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 1: I would be that team if I was running a team.

1415
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 2: Teams don't always act rationally when it comes to quarterbacks.

1416
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 1: Kirk, you know that, no, And I think he's a

1417
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 1: better option than some out there. There's not enough quarterbacks

1418
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 1: to fill, to fill the amount of reps that that

1419
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 1: will be out there. Some names that didn't make it

1420
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: for me that are just interesting. Rashaan Gary is doing

1421
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 1: eighteen million dollars. I think he's more likely to get cut.

1422
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: The edresher for the Packers, Calvin Ridley is somehow thirty

1423
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 1: two years old right now. You would save a little

1424
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 1: more if the if you're the Titans. By trading him

1425
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 1: then cutting him six teen million dollars versus thirteen million dollars,

1426
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 1: I think he would be very tough to deal. He's

1427
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 1: due about twenty two million dollars this year. I think

1428
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 1: he's a pretty likely cut candidate. AJ Terrell and Denzel

1429
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 1: Ward in Vita Veya, we're all like future free agents

1430
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 1: that landed on my like but why why would you

1431
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: do that? I don't think the team that has them

1432
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 1: would trade them, but it just they wouldn't be like

1433
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 1: the most stunning person in the world. Jacoby Brissette is

1434
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 1: very tradeable. Would would the But would the Lions really

1435
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:30,600
Speaker 1: want to trade for him as a backup to go

1436
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 1: with Drew Petsick. He's only do four million dollars this year,

1437
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 1: but I think the.

1438
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 2: Cardinals, the Cardinals need him.

1439
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. The quarterback Bradley Chubb more likely to get cut.

1440
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,719
Speaker 1: We mentioned what will Levis made our list last year.

1441
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 1: I mean, who knows does someone want to give up

1442
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 1: a sixth and seventh swap for will Levis?

1443
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 2: Probably not Timmy will Levis and JJ McCarthy would be

1444
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 2: my dream quarterback room.

1445
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 1: So and uh yeah, I mentioned Gino here too. Kirk

1446
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 1: Cousins probably a straight cut Spencer rattler, but I you know,

1447
01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 1: I think the Saints will just hold on to him.

1448
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 1: I don't think Klint Kubiak sending away draft compensation to

1449
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 1: be reunited with him necessarily. And then we talked about Tua,

1450
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 1: who's untradeable to me, but I just think it's worth

1451
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 1: worth mentioning that's it a million dollar cap hit. By

1452
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 1: the way, if if Tua is cut, whereas a trade

1453
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 1: saves them eight million dollars, so they they could be

1454
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 1: in a situation. Would they give up maybe not the farm,

1455
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 1: but would they give up picks plus money just so

1456
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 1: that it's a trade while versus a cut for an

1457
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 1: as Wiler type trade. I think that's what it would take.

1458
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 1: But I kind of think he's untradeable.

1459
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 2: I they should be willing to trade draft capital get

1460
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 2: off the deal. Would another team be willing to do

1461
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 2: that like the Browns did the Brow trade. I can't

1462
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 2: imagine them paying to a end paying Sean Watson, but

1463
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 2: stranger things have happening.

1464
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 1: Well, there's a couple teams out there with more cap

1465
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,759
Speaker 1: states than you possibly can use. The Titans, the Raiders,

1466
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 1: the Jets, the Commanders. Yeah, there's the Bengals. Although they

1467
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 1: never get creative. There's some teams out there that could

1468
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: like play some funny money games and just do it.

1469
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: We did it, Bill. This was one of our most

1470
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: listened to shows of the entire calendar, and so I

1471
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 1: think it's going to happen again. We'll be having in

1472
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 1: prime position over the holiday weekend. I am grateful for

1473
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 1: your friendship. It was how grateful that we broke bread

1474
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 1: and got really messy eating some thie wings. Kin Cow

1475
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 1: if you're in San Francis good. That was so good.

1476
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 2: Kin Cow I feel like was the favorite place of

1477
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 2: NFL writers during the combine. I feel like more people

1478
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 2: ate there and posted a battle on Instagram and how

1479
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 2: good it was. Oh really, any other place in San Francisco?

1480
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, although I did hear of another

1481
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 1: group that went, the Robert Mays group that went for sure,

1482
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 1: So you know it was You could get reservations. It's

1483
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 1: just in a hotel es centrally located and the food's dynamite.

1484
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 1: Importantly about your friendship, that you were willing to come

1485
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 1: out of semi retirement for a week and a half

1486
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 1: to do this show, which is like the nicest thing

1487
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 1: you could do for me. So thank you. Go enjoy,

1488
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 1: go enjoy your family bill. Thank you.

1489
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 2: I will We'll be.

1490
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 1: Back, Like I said, after the long weekend franchise tag

1491
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 1: season starts, so I think me and Shuck are going

1492
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 1: to just talk about a little bit about the guys

1493
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 1: who are going to get tagged. We'll start getting into

1494
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 1: our top one o one free agents. I got a

1495
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,679
Speaker 1: deadline next week. Can't wait for that. Football is not back,

1496
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 1: but this show was, and it was a pleasure to do.