1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: This is the most traumatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison coming to you from the home office in Austin, Texas. 3 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: I have a great show today. I can brag because 4 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: it's the guests that always make the show, and today 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: Val and Max Chimmerkowski. You know him, you love him 6 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: from Dancing with the Stars, obviously married to Jenna and 7 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: Peta also Dancing with the Stars, fame and I have 8 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: so much to discuss with these guys. Their family life, 9 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: Max and pet expecting baby number two and Val and 10 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: Jenna just had a baby, their ties to Ukraine, their 11 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: feelings on the war and what this has meant to them. 12 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: There's also an exciting new project that I want to 13 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: talk to him about, something called Savor Up and Napa Valley, 14 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: a little after hours dance show. Can't wait to hear 15 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: about it with Max and Val. You just know it's 16 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: going to be good and entertaining, so let's get right 17 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: to it. Joining me from Napa Valley, California. There's a 18 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: reason for that, so we'll get into that in just 19 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: a little bit. Max and Valchimmerkowski, you guys couldn't see it, 20 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: but they just gave each other a little fist bump 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: because there's some great stuff going down in Napa Valley. 22 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: Yes, thanks for having us, Chris, and yeah, we have 23 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: some great things doing. 24 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: It's so good to see you guys. First of all, 25 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: it's been a while since I've seen you. Obviously, we 26 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: got to know each other during your days on Dancing 27 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: with the Stars, both of you. We may have played 28 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: a little golf from time to time together, Max, But 29 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: it's good to see you guys together and doing so well. 30 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Thank you so much. Yeah, we're 31 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: very excited for our latest product, project Rather and yeah, 32 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: it's a lot of fun up here. 33 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: How fun is this to do together? I won't we 34 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: won't talk about what Savor is yet, but just you 35 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: guys have worked together, I mean, is it your entire lives? 36 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 2: This is a twenty fifty year. 37 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 3: Since the first time we actually made money together and 38 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 3: had perform as performers on stage where I called him 39 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 3: out because I had a three couple show in Brooklyn 40 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 3: and we were performing in restaurants up and down right 41 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: in Beach and one of my couples pulled out and 42 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 3: I had a twelve year old brother who. 43 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: Was one of the best dances. 44 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 3: In the US, and I was like, well, you know 45 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 3: what Chach is, Chacha, you want to come do this? 46 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 2: He's like, sure, what are you paying? 47 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 3: He didn't ask, he said sure, he danced and then 48 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 3: I paid him and it's like, oh damn, Like this 49 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 3: is this is a great exchange. So you know, the guys, 50 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: the commerce and he was born and the producer me 51 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 3: was kind of like, yeah, but it's been twenty five 52 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 3: years since and we're still here. And not only that, 53 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 3: but this is the best project yet. And another, you know, 54 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: something that moves the needle and something that people say. 55 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: Hey, this is very unique. 56 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 3: It's very different, and in our industry, you know, to 57 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: come out with something that is unique and. 58 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: It's a huge fee, it's a huge feet. 59 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, well we'll get right into it since 60 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: we're already teasing it up. It's called Savor and as 61 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: in like the the tasting notes of savor this wine 62 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: or savor this food is the term, and so Savor 63 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: is going to be kind of after Ours Cabaret in 64 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: Napa Valley. Explain what we're doing. 65 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: So Saber app to Ours is a wine tasting show, 66 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: but we do our tastings a little different at saber. 67 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: Every performance you see at our show in the evening 68 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: is inspired by the very wine that you will be 69 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: drinking throughout the evening. You get four distinctly different servings 70 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: that are complemented by distinctly different performances throughout that tasting experience. 71 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: So you guys are gonna pair the dance with the wine. 72 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the relationship that our creative director and the 73 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: creator of the show, Mark swan Hart built, And and 74 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: and kind of that was the inception of the idea 75 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: for this is he was having a glass of wine, 76 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: which is where kind of he has most of his muses, 77 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: and he kind of, you know, he writes most of 78 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: his shows over a glass of wine, and in this 79 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: particular moment, he was like, why don't I just write 80 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 2: the show around wine? Yeah? And yeah, No. It was 81 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: an amazing process to even witness. 82 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 3: It was forty years ago that he called us and said, 83 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 3: and you know, the project back then was called Tasting Notes. 84 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: It was very on point. It was very simple and 85 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,119 Speaker 3: clear and unique. And again it was we got hoped 86 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 3: and we we couldn't wait to see it. It's pretty 87 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 3: much exactly as it wasn't back then in his head 88 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 3: and to see it come to fruition. Not only that, 89 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 3: but you know the response that we got trying to 90 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 3: we needed the wine, right and this this is the pouring. 91 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 3: You know, we're talking about three hundred people's seats and 92 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: this is four glasses per the flights, four poors by 93 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: the way, just a side note, you don't have to drink. 94 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 2: It's an add on, right, obviously it's at first. 95 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 3: It's a show, but also this experience, right, Yeah, the 96 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 3: seating is not a precedium seating, it's not a beer seating. 97 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 3: It's more about four tops for tabletopund tables. 98 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: Our stage were allowed ourselves. 99 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 3: Creativity of just like let's just build stage out into 100 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: the audience and you know, dancing between the tables and 101 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 3: have this experience for a moment where it's happening around you. 102 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: So you know, there was a lot of very interesting 103 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 2: components of the show that we never got to play 104 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 2: with before. 105 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: And again, the response from the local winemakers was amazing. 106 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 3: We got two different It's been incredible to see that 107 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 3: we're welcomed here. Kind of nervous for the response, but 108 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 3: so far soft opening, responsive exactly. 109 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: How well and wine is so experiential it's you taste it, 110 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: and it's always been are depending on who you're with, 111 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: what you're doing, and it does take you to places. 112 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: And it's interesting because I'm a big wine guy and 113 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: you work with a chef, and the chef wants to 114 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: taste the wine and that will take his palate to 115 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: what he wants to serve you. I'm interested. A. Are 116 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: you guys wine guys? And B do you taste the 117 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: wine and then choreographed to what you have felt from 118 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: the wine? Or do you just kind of take the 119 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: general Hey, it's Spanish, so we're going to do a. 120 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 2: No. First of all, I mean, again, I enjoy wine. 121 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: I'm not as as well versed as you sound like 122 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: you are. I mean you've already used like five words 123 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 2: and I just learned last week. But you know, I 124 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 2: think that the relate the connection between my part because 125 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 2: you'll talk, you know, on his own behalf. For me, 126 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: the relationship stems from It's what you said. It's wine 127 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: brings people together and it allows people to you know, 128 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: it's not just about getting intoxicated. It's about having an experience, 129 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 2: an experience where you raise a glass. So for us 130 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 2: and our family, we always raise the glass, not to 131 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: get drunk, but to commemorate each other. This is how 132 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: we you know, we have a moment to connect and 133 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: reflect and kind of you know, congregate. 134 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: Over over, celebrate the moment. 135 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 2: Celebrate the moment, you know. And so I'm like, wow, 136 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: we built a kind of a Mama Mia inspired essence 137 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: about the fact that we are coming together, that theater 138 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: feels like one giant party, and so I'm more from 139 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: that element, really excited about the show. I love that element, 140 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: the fact that I get to be in the audience 141 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: on stage around you know. But as far as our 142 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: passion for wine, Max will take over. 143 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 3: Oh no, I think our passion is for like I 144 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,679 Speaker 3: keep going back to just human interaction and people's service. 145 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 3: We started with service industry, you know, twelve eighteen. We're 146 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 3: in the restaurant just presenting this while people are eating, 147 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 3: they still having dinner. 148 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 2: There's also a sophistication about it that I think pairs 149 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: well with our essence, believe it or not. 150 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: You know, hair aside, Hey, I like you use the 151 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,559 Speaker 1: word pairing weller parents. 152 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: And as far as the creative, you know, I think 153 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 2: it isn't as simple as we taste the wine and 154 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: then we choreographed what happened, was Mark Swanheart, the director, Yes, 155 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: he tasted the wine and he envisioned the story out 156 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 2: of it, right, because again, wine tells stories and people 157 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: tell their story overwined. And so there's a few pieces that, 158 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: first of all, are such a riot. There's a few 159 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 2: pieces that are incredibly heartbreaking and heartwarming. Right, there's going 160 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 2: to be a lot of laughter, a lot of impression, 161 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 2: but also a few tiers just because again it's something 162 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 2: that's timeless and it's something that you share with loved ones, 163 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: and you know loved ones go and you know you 164 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 2: stay in that bottle of wine will remind you of 165 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: a lot of the shared stories. So I think that 166 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 2: was more of the pattern. It was what can we 167 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: invite the audience to experience to this selection of wine, 168 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 2: and what kind of stories can we share that our 169 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 2: universally shared with everyone else. 170 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: Max has never met a shirt that he couldn't take off. 171 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: Will he have a shirt at any point during these shows? 172 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 2: Yes, that's a great way to position that that question, 173 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 2: but no mystery. 174 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: Yes, And by the way, talk about real you know, 175 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: real estate is everything, right, location, location, location, You guys 176 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: have the greatest location in naw But you're going to 177 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: be right downtown, right on Main Street and first in 178 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: the middle of it all at above jam Seller, I believe, 179 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: is a location. 180 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 2: We are we are in cells. 181 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: Okay, you're in jam Seller so just down from the 182 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: Archer Hotel, which is spectacular. It is on the main drag. 183 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 2: Talking about jam Seller's the tasting room. We're talking about 184 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: jam Seller's ballroom that's above the. 185 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 3: Lunar right, so the theater itself. Yes, And I just 186 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 3: want to piggyback that that was the whole point. Hey, 187 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 3: there's wine show idea. Let's just simplified. And that was 188 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 3: you know, this conversation happened four years ago and since 189 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 3: then it was like, well. 190 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 2: This has to be in in a wine producer, I 191 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 2: mean show. Yeah, it will be like just different, you know, 192 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 2: a little different what I had to go straight to 193 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: hard liquor show. 194 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: But this was so unique and you know, and it 195 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 3: took it took a mind of an individual who's a producer, 196 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 3: you know, who had the vision Lee Marshall with magic 197 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 3: space and the way they approached it and it was 198 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 3: together in lightning speed. 199 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 2: I'm telling you. 200 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 3: Once you get people that get it together at one table. 201 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 2: It goes fast, and so we took. 202 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: A long time trying to get here and in a 203 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 3: lightning preproduction speed. I am now a resident of Napo, 204 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 3: so is Valve with his family, and we're so grateful. 205 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 3: The local community saw on the show a couple of times. 206 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: They can't say enough about it. And this was our goal. 207 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 2: Pay a marsh to the farmer, paying marsh to the the. 208 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 3: Process, process that the grape, make sure that they are 209 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 3: not offended by what we're doing with it. 210 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: And that was exactly two of the greatest performers. We know, 211 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: you guys, no doubt, are going to put on an 212 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: amazing show that people will love. And just selfishly, I 213 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: find it perfect because when you go to NAPA, obviously 214 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: there's wine tasting and there's great food and yet but 215 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: there's really nothing to do later. There's nothing, as you say, 216 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: after hours. So what a perfect position to give people 217 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: a little something to do with the end of the day. 218 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 2: Thank you, And and I just wanted to mention you know, 219 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 2: first of all, the theater used to be the Napbook 220 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: Opera House, so this isn't like the location is grant. 221 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: We built it specifically for the show, so we extended 222 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 2: the stage. It's I mean, man, it like sometimes throughout 223 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 2: the night it feels like you're in a mid you know, 224 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: sixteenth century Parisian like tavern. It's like, wow, it's awesome. 225 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: And to kind of as far as the entertainment of it, 226 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: it's not just Max and Vaal. We have a host 227 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 2: that kind of narrates you through this story and through 228 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: this experience. Incredible actress. 229 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: How did I not get that gig in Napa? Damn it? 230 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 2: And we have a cast of just extraordinary dancers and 231 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: performers as well that they are kind of all all 232 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 2: featured in the show. We have a magician and there 233 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 2: also up magic and it's not me at. 234 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: Once making his shirt disappear. I get it. You mentioned 235 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: your families are there with you. And by the way, 236 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: val belated congratulations on baby Rome born. I think January right, Yeah, 237 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: thank you so much. You and Jenna, Max, You are 238 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: you and Peta already parents expecting baby number two? 239 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: Now? 240 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: Yes, like any moment. 241 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 2: Like actually within the next five days. 242 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: Yes, no way, that's so you already have baby shy uh? 243 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: And do we have a name. 244 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: We do have a name. 245 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: Have we announced it? 246 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 2: I wasn't ready. It's not my decision, you know, you 247 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 2: know I got to go make a phone call. 248 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: No, I do not want to get in trouble with Peta, 249 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: and I don't want you to get in trouble. Don't 250 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: cross a pregnant woman, especially on the day she's about 251 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: to give birth. Just let's let's leave it. But congratulations 252 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: val on first becoming a dad, and you and Pete 253 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: God bless you guys on a safe, healthy birth in 254 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 1: the next week or so. 255 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: Thank you so so much. We can't wait to see 256 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: you on host on our show. 257 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 3: I just want to add to what Ball was saying, 258 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 3: is that theaters you need got to rebuild it. This 259 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 3: seating on stage, we have a we have a bar 260 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 3: kind of runway the seating over that as well. 261 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: So I would like a lap dance. 262 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: I would recommend people, I'm just kidding into the. 263 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 3: Same afterhours dot com just to see tickets, not into 264 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 3: like purchase, but to see what it is and understand. 265 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 2: What we're trying to say. It's a fully immersive opportunity. 266 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you guys more too, about family, 267 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: how brothers clearly so at six years apart. Now now 268 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: that both of you are dads. Has your relationship changed? 269 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: How have you guys seen each other change? 270 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: I think our relationship has constantly been evolving. And uh, 271 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: you know, as somebody that have shared a life but 272 00:14:55,800 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: also then share the dance floor, shared lot of our 273 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 2: interests together, that became business partners and continued. You know, 274 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 2: we've we've had our ups and downs and ultimately now 275 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: as as fathers, it kind of yes, propelled us to 276 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 2: a new level of a friendship and relationship. But yeah, 277 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that that was the pivotal moment that 278 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: changed us. I think now we're just proud of each 279 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 2: other even more on on like more of a human 280 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: level rather than like a professional level, like wow, you've 281 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: accomplished this or you've accomplished that. Now we you know, 282 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: I think we're proud of each other. 283 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's not easy. Well, you're married to Jenna 284 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: Max Mary Peter from the show Lauren Ziema and I 285 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: my fiance. Obviously, you guys know from antainment tonight we 286 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: kind of you know, work together and fishing off the 287 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: company pier. Some people say, you know, don't eat where 288 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: you know where you work, but it worked for both 289 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: of you. Guys, I was. 290 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: About to say, That's what I was trying to say. 291 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 3: Like, so we've been been here for a week, and uh, 292 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 3: this is our second week in Napa. 293 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 2: We got here seven. 294 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 3: Days ago, and and you know, we went into the 295 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 3: first day of tech run and we had a very 296 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 3: gem production. It's very it was heavy schedule and we 297 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: just tied and just weren't exhausted. Hey, you want to 298 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 3: come over for dinner? Yes, and come over the Okay, 299 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 3: you want to stay over? Yes, I'll stay over. We're 300 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: fifteen minutes apart, by the way, just where we're staying here. 301 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: And we ended up I ended up staying over his 302 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 3: house that he and Jenna have here for the summer, 303 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: beautiful place, a bunch of rooms. Ended up sleeping the 304 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 3: same bad as we always do it. I wouldn't have 305 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 3: it any other way. 306 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: And uh, and that's literally us and it's our relationship. 307 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: We just went on a trip with my brother. We 308 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: shared a room. It's like I wanted to be with 309 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: my brother. It's like it's my boy, it's my best friend. 310 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's as far as working with our significant others, 311 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 2: you know that there's an incredible amount of respect for them. 312 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: As their own artists and entities. And yeah, it's again 313 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 2: our close proximity is we've also been not challenging for them, 314 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 2: but it's also something different for them to see. But 315 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 2: that is all part of now our little world. You know, 316 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 2: everybody understands that. And there are things that I do 317 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 2: with Jen that I love and we do together. There 318 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 2: are things that we also do separately together, which is 319 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 2: dancing with the stars. You know that is also you know, 320 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 2: we're close by, but we have our own responsibilities and 321 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 2: our own kind of responsibilities to our partners. There are 322 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 2: things that Max and Peter do together, and there are 323 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: things that Max and I do together that our wives 324 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 2: love and support, and. 325 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 3: These these are different, I feel like to me, there 326 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 3: are different products. The maxim bell is one and the 327 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 3: Bell and Jen is a beautiful different dance product. And 328 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 3: you know, relationship with Peter and maxis have their own 329 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 3: sort of like line going on. 330 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 2: But I love that we're. 331 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 3: Still doing it together and we're kind of finding our niches. 332 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 3: We're not with floral ident two identical couples. We identical 333 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 3: in dancing in the world that we're from and where 334 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 3: we came from. Like you would think, right it's pretty different. 335 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 2: We were well because there are a lot of similarities, 336 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 2: but there's also a lot of really important differences, and 337 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 2: I think figured out a way to support those differences. 338 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 1: Would you want your kids to dance? Would you push 339 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: them in that professional world? 340 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 2: My kids dancing? Shy? 341 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 3: You know a year ago you asked me that question, 342 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 3: and and and you know there's a story how he said, 343 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 3: you know you're doing a lot of things. 344 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: Well, don't you want to do I asked him. He said, 345 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 2: I don't like that. I was like, okay, I'll never 346 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: ask you that again. That you know, he stuck with it. 347 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: He dances ballroom. 348 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 3: So he's got his recital with his bolroom partner that 349 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 3: he does like twice a week, and it's turned into 350 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 3: this is what you're doing, and he doesn't mind it 351 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 3: and actually getting great at it and led me a 352 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:20,719 Speaker 3: couple of times. 353 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: So I was shocked and surprised. 354 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 3: But he also has passion for hip hop, which is like, 355 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 3: not one of our things. And he drags Peter to 356 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 3: West Hollywood with Melbourne, so she has to shlip every 357 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 3: Saturday for that one class that he just wanted to do. 358 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 3: He just had to recital, and I was like, we're 359 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 3: watching his ear two year smile. 360 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: I can't believe that. 361 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 3: You know, this has been my baby and now it's 362 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 3: this person and he has his own track line and 363 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 3: he knows where he's. 364 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: Going with it. 365 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: So cool. 366 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 3: I want to give it to him to choose, like 367 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 3: with our parents who are trying to tell us, you know, 368 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 3: he has his tendence, he's got his soccer, his dance, 369 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 3: he's got his academics, you know, searching whatever. It is 370 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 3: my responsibility with Peters just to make sure that he 371 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 3: has these, you know, things to to achieve and then 372 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 3: he'll have more choice to pick trom what he wants 373 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 3: to do. 374 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: I would love to put I would I would love 375 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: to have my kid dance. You know, I don't know 376 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 2: if I you know, the rest will you know, time 377 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: will tell. But whether he pursues it professionally or not 378 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 2: is regardless of why I would want him to do dance. 379 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 2: I think it's really good for your mental health, physical health, 380 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: and social health. Is just a really really awesome thing 381 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 2: that everybody should put their kids into. 382 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: You guys will be together for a Father's Day. I 383 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: assume you'll be up there and nap it together. 384 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, we're here on schedule. We're here for 385 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 3: the rest of the summer. That's actually a real thing. 386 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 3: The only time I might not be here is in 387 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 3: the next seven days. 388 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: This is where value you're gonna get, like a weird 389 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: gift from baby Rome that Jenna has put together, like 390 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: a bad like a bad tie or a bath towel 391 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: or something weird. And then but you're gonna hold on 392 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: to it forever because you'll remember that was like. 393 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: A swe that's say that says father. 394 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was best dad in the world. But this 395 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: is your first. This is your first. So happy Father's 396 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: Day to you. 397 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: Thanks man, thank you. It's it's a great title. It's 398 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 2: the best. 399 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: It really is. I want to talk to you guys 400 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: too about Dancing with the Stars, obviously helped by you know, 401 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: the writer's strike and the need to bring stuff back, 402 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: but it's coming back to ABC. Thoughts on that. 403 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 2: Thoughts, Oh, it's awesome. I think there's a lot of 404 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: folks that we left behind, you know. I'm glad that well, 405 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 2: I've already heard the response, you know. Ever ever since 406 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 2: the announcement was made, Uh, everybody that stops me that right, 407 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 2: ignizes me from the show. They all mention how happy. 408 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: They are that it's coming back to But some of 409 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 1: the big changes. First and foremost, host Julianne Huff is 410 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 1: going to be taking on that role. I think her 411 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: and Alfonso Roberto correct, Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love Alfonso 412 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: and I love well, I love Julianne as well. What 413 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: do you guys think of the hosting duo. 414 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 2: I think they're going to be great. I mean they 415 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 2: both have rapport with all the dancers, right, I think 416 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 2: that's really important because well, they have report with the dance, 417 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 2: they have rapport with the space. You know, as soon 418 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 2: as you walk into a space you're familiar with, as 419 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: soon as you are surrounded by people you're familiar with. 420 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 2: I mean, it just changes the energy in which you 421 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 2: conduct yourself, in the way you conduct those interviews. And 422 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 2: so I think Alfonso is going to be an incredible host. 423 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: I think julian How Huff will be a great companion, 424 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 2: and I think that it's great for the show. 425 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: Obviously, huge shoes to fill. On a sad note, Len Goodman, 426 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: the brilliant judge. I know you guys love and respect it. 427 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: Everybody did passed away. This will be the first season 428 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: without Land. Who could fill that role and can you 429 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: fill that role moving forward? 430 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 2: I mean a big. 431 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 3: Loss obviously, but Len was kind of like on his 432 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 3: way out just yeah, fashion well I believe that he 433 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 3: did step away for season or two then came back 434 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 3: to the inaugural season. 435 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 2: It was awesome to have him back. To be honest 436 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 2: with you, he came you know, when he came back, 437 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 2: it felt like, Okay, that's what was missing type of thing. 438 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, but the show is also going through some changes, 439 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 3: and from a side view, it felt like it was 440 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 3: going up and down. Now the show is back. You know, 441 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 3: it's incredible that it's sustained itself. I love that it's 442 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 3: back when you see personally, I love that it's a 443 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 3: fun kind of deal. 444 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 2: Well because he would still watch it on uh yeah, 445 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 2: because it's like just it's just more, you know, it's 446 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 2: not like or it's just an end, and that's always better. 447 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 3: And it also I feel like in terms of Land, 448 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 3: some things that just not necessarily need to be replaced, 449 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 3: maybe there's something that can come that's different, you know, 450 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 3: maybe something that could change in the dynamic of the 451 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 3: judging panel. 452 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 2: And you know, people can grab onto this and say, oh, 453 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 2: who do you want fire? This isn't what I'm saying, brilliant. 454 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 2: Everything changes, everything. 455 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 3: Goes through ebbs and flows, and so I feel like 456 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 3: with the permanent see in Land missing right from here 457 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 3: on out, I feel like there won't be a question 458 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 3: of when is he going to come back? Or will 459 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 3: replace him with someone like that? Now it's sort of 460 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 3: like an open discussion of who can be the next 461 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 3: you know, to fill that role. 462 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: Could we see a Chimmerkowski in the judges scene? 463 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 2: I will I would love to fill that role. Can 464 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 2: just say that finally, and you know that way. 465 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 3: I will probably not going to be on the show 466 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 3: as dance as a pro, but if there's an opportunity 467 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 3: for me to step into the role of a judge 468 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 3: and adjudicator, absolutely absolutely, because I would love to bring. 469 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 2: Value to that position as well in a in a 470 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 2: way that I feel like. 471 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 3: He wanted, and continue with the bringing the brand and 472 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 3: continue helping the brand, because you know, we're all part 473 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 3: of that came from there where I'm sitting here because 474 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 3: of that show, and so I love seeing it be 475 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 3: back in the familiar kind. 476 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: Of yeah, now what about you? 477 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: Well, in what sense what I want to judge the show. 478 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, could you see yourself ever sitting in that seat? 479 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 2: Of course, of course I love you know, I love dance. 480 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 2: I love dance. I teach dance, I perform dance. I 481 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 2: grew up with dance. I preached the gospel of dance. 482 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, you guys are such characters. Not 483 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: a bad idea to put you both on the panel 484 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: and let you go at each other a little bit. 485 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 4: That that'd be a good dyeamic it would be awesome, 486 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 4: or the answer with the stars should invest in a spinoff? 487 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 4: There you go, and we don't have to have to 488 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 4: replace anybody, you know, we don't have to change ourselves 489 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 4: to kind of fill a certain role. And at the 490 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 4: same time, to see this. 491 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: Ridiculous, well what I like, I do like with and 492 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: appreciate what you said, Max, and I believe that for 493 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: all legends, it's that no one's going to fill that 494 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: void necessarily. You can't try to be land. You're just 495 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: going to go in and do what you do and 496 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: you'll you'll put your own thumbprint on it and your 497 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: own spin on it, and that's an important way to 498 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: approach it. Whoever takes that role. 499 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 2: Right cool. I also think that it'll be fun to 500 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 2: have somebody maybe completely outside of this world to come 501 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 2: in and be a judge, you know, essentially from a different. 502 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: Genre of things, you mean, like Tom Brady, Like what 503 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: are you talking about? 504 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 2: Not of tom Brady, but but again, if we want 505 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 2: to expand this this style of two more markets, you know, 506 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 2: potentially boys that is from a different genre of either 507 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 2: movement or. 508 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. 509 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, in entertainment again, and we've had guest judges and 510 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 2: they don't always they don't always fly. 511 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: It's not easy. It's not easy. 512 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 2: Oh, it's not again, I don't know what the answer is. Yeah, 513 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 2: but I'm excited for the show because as much as 514 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: I'm celebrating it coming back to ABC, I do have 515 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 2: to give credit to Disney and that move because even 516 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 2: though World One Family, it did feel like us moving 517 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: to Disney. Plus, I saw billboards, I saw an excitement, 518 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: I saw a change and energy that really I think 519 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: revived the show. 520 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would be remiss if we didn't talk a 521 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: little bit before you guys go. You are Ukrainian out 522 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: Ukrainians obviously the war Lingers on what is your emotional 523 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: state on this what do you guys hear from back home. 524 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: Are you still connected with It's it's. 525 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 2: It's it's emotional, you know. 526 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 3: Speaking for me, I'm I mean we have different ties, opportunity, 527 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 3: you know, conversations, connections, but overall we're kind of like 528 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 3: in the same place. But it's emotional, you know. I'm 529 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 3: I'm able to disconnect, to be honest, or do I 530 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 3: want to, But it feels like it's the length of 531 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 3: this tragedy. It's just it takes more and more, you know, 532 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 3: more and more out of out of you, I feel. 533 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 2: Anyway, the current news is that the blowing up of 534 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 2: the dam in Zaparisia. 535 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, we we now are just, in 536 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 5: my opinion, just globally waiting for a disaster that is 537 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 5: so big that it is starts to affect the outside 538 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 5: of your brain. 539 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 2: And I think that that's when it's going to start 540 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 2: to kind of like, okay, so maybe it's just step in. 541 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 3: But what's happening internally, it's so devastating and it's just 542 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 3: so hard to watch, and it's such a soap opera, 543 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 3: just like we're all in that sort of fish saying. 544 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 2: I felt I spoke hoping somebody a couple of days ago, 545 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 2: and I feel. 546 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 3: Like we're all in the zoom, just kind of like 547 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 3: watching the animals go at it, and I'm like, this 548 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 3: is just so heartbreaking, and you know, I wish for 549 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 3: the world to oversee some rules and regulations globally and 550 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 3: try to, you know, end it. And it has to 551 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 3: be ended by giving back to your brain. 552 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 2: It's theory. 553 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: Well, Max, you were there and you documented some things 554 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: before you got out, and you did such a brilliant 555 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: job of that. Are there two kind of sides to you? 556 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: That part of you probably wishes you were still there 557 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: so you could be kind of involved and connected somehow. 558 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: But then part of you is probably like, I'm glad 559 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: my family is safe and we're out, and there may 560 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: be may even be a little guilt involved with that. 561 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a beat up phrase at this point, 562 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: with the survivor's guilt. 563 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 3: But you know, it's it's been a year and a 564 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 3: half later, and you know I've spoken to enough people 565 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 3: and understood enough about this, and I was also helped 566 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 3: along the way, supported and you know, motivated and also 567 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 3: educated in a lot of ways. 568 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 2: So you know, I'm a different meet today. I know 569 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 2: who I am I know who I'm not. I know 570 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 2: who I'm not and what I'm not a part of, 571 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 2: but I'm. 572 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 3: A global citizen and my connection to your brain is 573 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 3: just is not a choice at the point at this point, 574 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 3: it's it's something that the. 575 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 2: Strategy tragedy also kind of. 576 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 3: You know, allowed me to reconnect with that that part 577 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 3: of Ukraine you need, you know, and so I feel 578 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 3: very proud to be a part of this in that 579 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 3: sort of way. 580 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 2: I hate that I that this has ever happened. 581 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 3: I don't think I was documenting anything out of key 582 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 3: if I was just honestly it was a cry for 583 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 3: not cry for help, but it was like. 584 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 2: Am I the only one seeing this? Like how common 585 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 2: of its really running? 586 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 3: But today, like I said, it's up to powers to 587 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 3: be Our job is to you know, help support the person, 588 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 3: you know, the training person that's not it's not in 589 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 3: their choice and they're the ones suffering. So we continue 590 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 3: in humanitarian efforts. Burn Over twenty seven with our Dad 591 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 3: is still operational and we're working on some big events 592 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 3: to help you know, fundraise at the time when people 593 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 3: already stopped doing that. 594 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, I know we're still in it, and we'll 595 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 2: be here for the long hold. 596 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna give you a chance before we say goodbye, 597 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: you know. 598 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 2: Might take even even with our charity and fundraising and 599 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 2: things like that, you know, the subject matter became politicized, 600 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 2: just like everything else in this country. And I just 601 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 2: want to emphasize that besides, you know, right and wrong, 602 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 2: you know, just on some like human level. You know, 603 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 2: because when we started fundraising, our warehouse was in New Jersey, 604 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 2: Nor Jersey, and we in two days we had a 605 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 2: close to a thousand people show up to help organize 606 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 2: the humanitarian aid that was pouring in. And they weren't 607 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 2: thousand Ukrainians that woked in. It was you know, ninety 608 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 2: five percent every walk of life, you know, just just 609 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 2: local tri state area of folks that came in. And 610 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 2: it reminded me of the days after nine to eleven 611 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 2: where people again, people rally like this is the most 612 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 2: American thing to do is to support another dog. So 613 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 2: for me, Ukraine is you know, at the moment, it 614 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 2: is synonymous with the American spirit. It's defending its land 615 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 2: against somebody that is trying to take it from them, 616 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 2: is doing it righteously, you know, and courageously and I 617 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 2: think it spoke to a lot of Americans until again 618 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 2: that the subject matter became hijacked by political you know whatever. 619 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 2: But I haven't lost sight of that. For me, it's 620 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 2: a matter of being there for somebody in need. And 621 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 2: I think the country of Ukraine is that somebody. 622 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: It's not lose sight of the people. Yeah, absolutely, speaking 623 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: of two good people, Max and Vale. Right here, I'm 624 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: telling you talk about the American uh you know story 625 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: right here. 626 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 2: This is it. 627 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: You guys have been so successful and crushed it and 628 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: it's been fun to watch you guys and get to 629 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: know you gosh over the last decade your new venture Savor. 630 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: After ours spectacular wine tasting dance show at Napa Valley, 631 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: everybody is going to be wanting to know how to 632 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: get tickets. So tell us again, where do we go 633 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: to check it out and buy tickets? 634 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 2: Well, you can go to save half the hours dot 635 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,719 Speaker 2: com and all the details of where, when, tickets, all 636 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 2: of that will be there. 637 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: All right, fellas, go go check them out if you're 638 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: in Napa Valley. I'm definitely gonna be there and I 639 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: will be there front row. I don't know if I'll 640 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: be on the stage, but you know close, Chris, Well. 641 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 2: We'll talk about me. We'll take you on on the stage. 642 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if I want all of Max's sweat 643 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: on me. No, fellaws. Hey, it's good to see you again. 644 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're doing well. And again Val congrats and 645 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 1: prematurely Max to you and Pete. God bless you guys, 646 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: and good luck to you. I know you're expecting baby 647 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: number two any day now. 648 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 2: Thank you so much and good luck to you. We're 649 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 2: also big fans and followed your career and thank you 650 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 2: for the. 651 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: Con words always boys, Y'll take care. I'll talk to 652 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:36,439 Speaker 1: you soon. 653 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 2: Thank you. 654 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. 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