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Speaker 1: points allout. I mean, this is not the defense you

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Speaker 1: want to be facing this week with the things you're

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Speaker 1: trying to get fixed on offense, right Chris Brown Bills

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Speaker 1: inside of Buffalo Bills dot Com and studio with us

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Speaker 1: John Murphy's team tasker One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive,

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Speaker 1: recapping and talking about last night's long twenty five to

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Speaker 1: six loss to the New England Patriots. Will take your

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Speaker 1: phone calls as well. Eight o three fifty twel three

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. We'll

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Speaker 1: go to David and lockboard. David, go ahead, you're on

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Speaker 1: the air, Hi, John and Steve and Chris him. I

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Speaker 1: said it earlier this year, I said I I have

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Speaker 1: games five bad games. Now it's six bad games. We

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Speaker 1: need to change the offensive line coach and the receiver's coach.

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Speaker 1: And how will that help? David? Do you think, David,

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Speaker 1: do you think those guys are just are that good

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Speaker 1: and they're just not being coached? Well, he's had it

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Speaker 1: for years. It's been the answer to our own line

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Speaker 1: for years. Well, this wide receivers coach has been here

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Speaker 1: for one year and the old line coach has been

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Speaker 1: here for two years. But they're gonna you want to

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Speaker 1: put the on them with the failures you think that

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Speaker 1: have gone on for years. They're not communicating with each

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Speaker 1: other and then not communicating with a quarterbacks coach. How

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Speaker 1: do you know that? Because because our quarterbacks can't do anything,

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Speaker 1: nor can our running backs do anything because the offensive

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Speaker 1: lines just out there and the receivers aren't there. So

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Speaker 1: that sounds like that sounds more like a personnel issue

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Speaker 1: to me. And you know, I Brandon Bean was on

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Speaker 1: WKBWTV last night in the pregame and he was pretty

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Speaker 1: self effacing last last night. I mean, he basically said,

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Speaker 1: we kind of knew we were going to take some

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Speaker 1: lumps on offense this year based on the cap jail

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Speaker 1: we had to get ourselves out of. Uh. You know,

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Speaker 1: it was a cumulative effect act of the things that

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Speaker 1: were stripped away from the offensive side of the ball

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Speaker 1: over the past season and a half. Whether you want

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Speaker 1: to talk about the two veteran offensive lineman, one that

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Speaker 1: was moved off the roster, the other that had to

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Speaker 1: suddenly retire due to a neck injury, Whether you want

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Speaker 1: to talk about the trade of Sammy Watkins not resigning

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Speaker 1: Robert Woods in free agency because he was going to

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Speaker 1: get a big pay day and based on what he

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Speaker 1: was doing in this offense, you couldn't justify the cost

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Speaker 1: at eleven million dollars a year. Mark he's goodman who

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Speaker 1: couldn't stay healthy. You know, these are all pieces that

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Speaker 1: were taken off of an offense that was relatively productive

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Speaker 1: and at the time prior to McDermott's arrival was number

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Speaker 1: one in the league and rushing, so all that chipping

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Speaker 1: away has a cumulative effect. The cumulative effect is there's

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Speaker 1: not enough talent here to execute on a consistent basis

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Speaker 1: and string positive plays together. I do believe it's more

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Speaker 1: of what you have in terms of personnel and talent

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Speaker 1: than it is a coaching perspective. You guys may disagree

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Speaker 1: with me on that, but I think it's a personnel issue.

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Speaker 1: You don't have enough horses in the barn right now

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Speaker 1: to string enough positive plays together to put yourself in

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Speaker 1: a position to score points on a consistent basis. The

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Speaker 1: thing that gets lost in all of that, and the

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Speaker 1: people don't want to hear about, is the fact that

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Speaker 1: they couldn't afford to buy any right. But that's not

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Speaker 1: the that's not the fault of the current regime. They

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Speaker 1: were not the ones to sign those players trying to

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Speaker 1: cause prohibitive con I'm not trying to sign a sign blame.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that's the way what they probably had Some

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Speaker 1: different guys maybe that they wanted to go out and

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Speaker 1: grab some guys, they wanted to sign some guys they

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Speaker 1: wanted to pay and didn't just flatt didn't have the money. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you this The bottom line is this. This is fifty

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Speaker 1: five minutes at least dead cap money. This was a

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Speaker 1: bite the bullet year. This is a bite the bullet year.

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Speaker 1: Suck up the cap problems of the previous regime and

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Speaker 1: go spend your money next year in the off season

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Speaker 1: when you have cap room and you have ten draft

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Speaker 1: choices to improve your roster. And they did. They did

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Speaker 1: do a couple of things. They did know that that

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Speaker 1: and we've talked about it that you know, they were

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Speaker 1: gonna win with defense and try and run the ball,

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Speaker 1: you know, try and protect a young quarterback of whoever

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Speaker 1: the quarterback was gonna be, whether it's going to be

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Speaker 1: a Bridge, whether it's gonna be Nate Peterman or a J. McCarron.

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Speaker 1: Neither one of those guys ended up being a quarterback

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Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills. But now it's Derek Anderson, which

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Speaker 1: is kind of the plan that they had. I mean,

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Speaker 1: a guy like Derek Anderson trying short up enough to

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Speaker 1: win with the defense, but and I was telling us

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Speaker 1: to Murphy Brown, I'd be interested to see what you saw.

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Speaker 1: The two turnovers the Bills did. One that took that

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Speaker 1: gave the Patriots a field goal. The other end of

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Speaker 1: obviously the pick six. The Bills defense gave up one

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Speaker 1: drive in that game. They gave up a ten play

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Speaker 1: touchdown drive. And that was virtually the offensive day for

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, right. I mean people will look at the

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Speaker 1: stats and say, oh, he threw for three hundred yards,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of those plays were not backbreakers. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Bills were playing ben but don't break, and they

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Speaker 1: were getting the third down stops when they needed him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there was a point in the game come

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Speaker 1: the end of the third quarter the Patriots were three

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Speaker 1: of eleven on third day. Yeah, they were getting it

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Speaker 1: done with third down defense. And I wrote as much

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Speaker 1: in you know the top three things we learned from

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Speaker 1: the Bills Patriots game. The third down defense kept the

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Speaker 1: team in the game for three quarters. And to ask

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Speaker 1: them to do it for the whole game, all right,

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Speaker 1: you want to do that, that's fine, But to me

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, especially when you're facing a quarterback the

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Speaker 1: caliber of Tom Brady, it's unrealistic to expect them to

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Speaker 1: do it for sixty minutes and completely shut it down.

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Speaker 1: If you think about this, the Bills in their last

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Speaker 1: two games against the Patriots have held Tom Brady without

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Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. The last two meetings here in Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: they've held tom Brady without a touchdown pass. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if there's too many teams in the league that

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Speaker 1: have been able to do that defensively against this Patriots team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you call here from Corey and Saint Catherine's Ontario. Hi, Corey,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the ear. Yeah. There's just so

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Speaker 1: many frustrating things that I thought the game yesterday. First

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Speaker 1: of all, the refereeing. There was a few I thought

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, I thought his head was going to explode

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Speaker 1: at one point on the sign on the sideline after

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Speaker 1: the rest of mystic call um. The other thing that

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Speaker 1: I that I saw was a lot of positivity with

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Speaker 1: the defense, Like that defense was absolutely amazing, and in

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Speaker 1: all reality, the offense really lost us the game with

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Speaker 1: that pick six um, the turnover that went to the

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Speaker 1: U to the field goal. Right, you take those ten

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Speaker 1: points away and it's a completely different game. And that

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Speaker 1: makes me think that it's the O line that is

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Speaker 1: the real problem, because yeah, Shady couldn't run yesterday with

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Speaker 1: the ball, but the minute you threw it to him

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Speaker 1: and you didn't have to worry about the O line,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, now he's getting yards. And that's

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Speaker 1: the Shady that I'm used to. And that's okay. We

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Speaker 1: saw it even late in the game. Uh, certainly on

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Speaker 1: the when they were, you know, starting to throw it

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Speaker 1: a little bit on every down to get back into it.

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Speaker 1: We saw some things from Shady that were great. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he made it. There was a couple of guys that

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Speaker 1: had him himmed in and he gave him you know

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Speaker 1: that Shady shake and and got an extra fifteen yards

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Speaker 1: and in a first down. H I think, Lashawn, I

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Speaker 1: don't know you can speak to this brownie Murph. I

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Speaker 1: think Shady still got a lot to give to an offense.

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Speaker 1: I think he's still talented. I think he can still run.

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Speaker 1: And I and I'll and I guess I'll agree with

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Speaker 1: Corey from Saint Catherine's the offensive line has not played well.

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Speaker 1: They knew it's been a work in progress. It's played

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Speaker 1: a little bit more steady and consistently than it did

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Speaker 1: earlier in the season. But it's still not They're not

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Speaker 1: dominating anybody. They're not moving guys off the line, they're

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Speaker 1: not winning. They're not winning the line of scrimmage. And

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Speaker 1: the coaches said that three times this year on Monday's

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Speaker 1: after games. And that's a and that's you might say

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Speaker 1: it again today. I'd say it again today. They're not

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Speaker 1: winning the last scrimmage and that's that has an enormous

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00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: ripple effect all the way out to the whiteouts and

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Speaker 1: the tight ends and the running backs and obviously the

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Speaker 1: cool back and Mark Kelso has mentioned this too. They

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Speaker 1: don't have wide receivers that block well either. That's right.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you want to talk about an underrated

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Speaker 1: quality of Robert Woods, that might have been one of

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Speaker 1: the best blocking receiver I've ever seen. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: not a mistake that they were number one in rushing

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Speaker 1: the last two years that Robert Woods was here. He

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Speaker 1: was an outstanding blocking receiver. And you look what he's

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Speaker 1: doing in LA with the Rams. He's doing much of

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Speaker 1: the same thing. Todd Gurley's a special talent, don't get

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Speaker 1: me wrong, but he gets out to the edge those

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Speaker 1: receivers are blocking downfield, and you don't see enough of

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Speaker 1: that here unfortunately. So you know, wide runs or sweeps

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Speaker 1: or whatever you want, even the wide receivers are not

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Speaker 1: winning enough in the blocking department. Chris Brown's gonna stick

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Speaker 1: around through most of this hour, so we're gonna take

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Speaker 1: right and come back with more. We're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about the trade deadline, which is four o'clock today, about

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Melana one of the standouts on defense.

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Speaker 1: He could have won that game. Pick that off, they'd

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Speaker 1: take three points off the board. And then he dropped

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Speaker 1: a pick six he that got on him. If he'd

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Speaker 1: have caught that, that had a chance to go to

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Speaker 1: the distance. Yeah, John Murphy, Chris Brown and uh with

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Speaker 1: the Steve Tasker. Chris doing his Adam Schefter imitation over here.

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Speaker 1: Obviously the trade deadline has got Chris. He didn't even

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Speaker 1: hear me behind He totally what you can multites. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing a little math. Are you tweeting? Don't give

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Speaker 1: me any stats anymore about how bad the offense. No,

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Speaker 1: it's not stats. Okay, I don't want to hear how

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Speaker 1: bad the offense is. One of one of our listeners

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Speaker 1: kind of took me to task on previous regime contracts

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Speaker 1: and clearing those in dead cash space, saying, there's just

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Speaker 1: as many from the current regime as the previous and

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Speaker 1: it is pretty close to even, but it is still

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Speaker 1: a little bit more from previous regime than current. It's

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Speaker 1: very close. Though. What do you mean there's a day

643
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Speaker 1: of the dead cat money, fifty five million of dead

644
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: cat money. It's twenty six six to five from previous

645
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: regime contracts, it's twenty five seven from current contracts. Who

646
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: would that be? Who you're talking about? Eric Wood? Which

647
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: is kind of an unforeseen thing you can't blame. And

648
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: that's and that's the biggest one. I mean, I don't

649
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: think you can really fault they was playing. Yeah, they

650
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: signed him to an extra contract. If you take that away,

651
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: it's it's clearly in favor of it. Was like Jordan

652
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: Matthew Tyrod for seven point four, Um Coleman for three

653
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: point five, m three mccaren two point one. That that

654
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: that's dropping a buck. Yeah you're talking, We're not talking

655
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: like sixty three million bucks from you know, let's talk

656
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: a little defense. Stephen, Chris and Steve, let's start with you.

657
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,479
Speaker 1: It was again people say it's wasted. It is when

658
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: you played defense at well, when you played third down

659
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: defense at well, when you play red zone defense that well,

660
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: when you disrupt Tom Brady as well as they did.

661
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: I love the fact that early in the game they

662
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: hit Tom Brady and it was all legal, and it

663
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: was all good, strong hits that got his attention. I

664
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: thought they really did an outstanding job defensively, and for

665
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: the most part through the first eight games, the Bill's

666
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: defense has been good for what four and a half

667
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: five of those eight games. Yeah, it's been a little

668
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: bit of a roller coaster because they did lay an

669
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: egg in Indianapolis, and then of course the first two

670
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: weeks of the season, first week and a half of

671
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,479
Speaker 1: the season, Um, they weren't good in Baltimore, and they

672
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: were bad in the first half of the Charger game

673
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: as well. But then you know, they got it together.

674
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: They got themselves into the top five in the league

675
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: and in a lot of categories, and then of course

676
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: laid the egg. And then now they bounced back and

677
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: somebody one of our listeners chimed in yesterday said, Listen,

678
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: they always follow up a stinker of a game with

679
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: a great game, and they certainly did that last night.

680
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: They the defense, um played stellar football last night, holding

681
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: the Patriots to what four field goals and one touchdown drive. Um,

682
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: it's a pretty good night in this day and age,

683
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: and particularly for Patriots team that's been scoring literally thirty

684
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: nine points a game. Unbelievable. Chefty, any thoughts on the defense.

685
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: On the Buffalo defense, you couldn't let it go? Can you?

686
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: You don't like I'm trying to set the record straight? Um,

687
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: you know I'm not. I think the defense is encouraging.

688
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,479
Speaker 1: From a pass rush perspective. They're on pace to get

689
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: over forty sacks this season. They not do that last year.

690
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: They're a little behind in the takeaway department in comparison

691
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: to last year when they had twenty five, and that's what,

692
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: in large part, helped them win games last year. Granted

693
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: that the offense was more productive from a rushing perspective,

694
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: from a red zone scoring perspective, from a points per

695
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: game perspective, but I think the defense certainly is taking

696
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: steps forward. They have a lot of young players that

697
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: are playing a lot of minutes. I think even ESPN

698
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: put the stat up yesterday, forty percent of this roster

699
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: is first and second year players, And even though it

700
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: is one of the older rosters in the league, doing

701
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: large part because you have people like Derek Anderson, Kyle Williams,

702
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: and Lorenzo Alexander on the roster were all age thirty five,

703
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: the vast majority of players on this team are unproven players,

704
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: first and second year players that are still learning on

705
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: the job and playing a ton of minutes. So, you know,

706
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: I think the future is encouraging for the defense as well,

707
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,239
Speaker 1: because when you have players who in two or three

708
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: years are going to be the core of that unit,

709
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds, Taryn Johnson, Trey White, Matt Milano, the future

710
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: is certainly bright. Was already playing well. Yeah, so that's

711
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: what you can hang your hat on with respect to

712
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: the Bills defense right now. I think second half of

713
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: the season two, Stephen, you can speak to this as

714
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 1: a former player. The Bills will go to Foxborough December

715
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: twenty third, knowing that they can handle Tom Brady and

716
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: the Patriots. You know, I mean, let's face it, going

717
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: into that game yesterday, there were some people saying, oh,

718
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: the Bills are going to give up fifty after giving

719
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 1: up thirty seven to the Colts last week. Well, it

720
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: wasn't even close to that. That's how strongly we're defensively yesterday.

721
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: I've mentioned this to Kelso last night, Mark, they can

722
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: learn from this and apply many of these same principles.

723
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: On December twenty third, to Foxborough, Kelso said, shoot, they

724
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: can do it next week against Chicago. Really, that is

725
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: the template the way they have to play defense. I think, oh, absolutely,

726
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: they keep it up, it's gonna be the big yeah,

727
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: a big probance that. That's how good they gotta play

728
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: to give themselves even a chance. They're almost gonna have

729
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 1: to get some picks. A they're going to start scoring points.

730
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: I mean, right, I mean, that's how bad it is

731
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: on the other side. The other side. You know, they're there,

732
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: and I and I think, and I know, you know,

733
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: people kill you when you say stuff like this. But

734
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: the offense, you know, I'm not giving up on it.

735
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: And I think there Derek Anderson's going to play better.

736
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: He's played better yesterday than he did last week in

737
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: his first start. The ball comes out on time. He

738
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: gives them a little something if they can you know

739
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: they've got to find a way to stay on the

740
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: field on third down, not turn the football over and

741
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: get some touchdowns. You know, it's not going to take

742
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: a bunch of touchdowns to win with this defense. Yesterday

743
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: one two would have done it, you know, so uh

744
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: and and not turning it over. So there's a lot

745
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 1: to good that goes into it. But I'm I'm still

746
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: thinking that. You know, the offense is gonna have to

747
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: play better, no question, But this is a defense that

748
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: while you're right, I mean, I think they've still got

749
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: it in to, you know, to close a game like

750
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: that out maybe, but man, oh man, how can he

751
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: even ask him to do it? Hey? Four o'clock is

752
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 1: the trade deadline today. We'll see if the Bills are active.

753
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: They have been in the past, obviously. Take a couple

754
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: of phone calls here, Brian and Buffalo. Hello, Brian, welcome

755
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,439
Speaker 1: to the show. You're on the air thanking me guys?

756
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: Sure London's running? What do you guys think about trading? What?

757
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: I just had him in my head? The receiver Benjamin

758
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: Kelvin Kelvin Benjamin A couple of times last night. He

759
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: didn't he don't seem to really be active. He seems

760
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: to run his slow the quarterback Anson yesterday, he can

761
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: see him a couple of times, like moving his arm

762
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: that he was mad about, you know what he did

763
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: and stuff. I mean, and if this is a rebuilding year,

764
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: what will you just think about seeing what you can

765
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 1: get from McCoy? I mean, because I feel a fan

766
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 1: for him. He's still a great player, and let him

767
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: go to Tema has a chance in the playoff. Yeah,

768
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I get him because he has I

769
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: don't know if I don't think so, which I get. Well,

770
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: here's the thing right now, Calvin Benjamin, I mean, ask yourself,

771
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: as a Bills fan, what would you give up to

772
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: have him on your team? It wouldn't get much wid Yeah,

773
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: wats you know? I think you'll get more out of

774
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,439
Speaker 1: him keeping him right where he is than you will

775
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: if you trade him. Um, he's not even if he's

776
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: not helping you. Well, that's the And to your point, Brian,

777
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: who call it? If you guys, you know all you people,

778
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: and this is always happens, You're like, hey, you may

779
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: as well just mail in the rest of him, get

780
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: a better draft pick, and make yourself better for next year.

781
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: You use the cap money, you know, YadA YadA, out

782
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: of draft, all offense do all that. Well, Calvin Benjamin's

783
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: helping you get there right now. Because he's not he's

784
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: not playing well enough to win games. Why trade him

785
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: for something that's less valuable than what you really are

786
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: trying to do if you're I mean, I'm not saying

787
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: Calvin Benjamin's tank in the season, but none of that

788
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: makes sense. You're not going to get enough out of

789
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: a out of a trade of that magnitude. I don't

790
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: think so, because I'll tell you what. If I'm if

791
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: we have an offensive if we have greater our offensive line,

792
00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: if we get better play out of them, if they

793
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: are winning the line of scrimmage, LaShaun McCoy's gonna play better.

794
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: I believe. Well, it couldn't know, but it could happen

795
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: next year. I think LaShaun McCoy could play well next

796
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: year too. There's nothing in his play and his ability

797
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: is the way he moves, the way he's running, his speed,

798
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: his explosiveness. And I'll tell you what. And I got

799
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: to tip my hat to him a couple of times.

800
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 1: Last night. He got called for a holding penalty when

801
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: he stepped up to pick up a blitz. He got

802
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 1: caught and it turned him into a first and twenty

803
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: later on they ran the same blitz and he went

804
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 1: after the guy quick and stepped up and whacked the

805
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: linebacker really good and made the stop. I mean, the

806
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: guy is willing to do anything. Lashawn McCoy has been

807
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: a real warrior for this club. You can say whatever

808
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: you want about the kind of guy is how productive

809
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: he is. That guy can play, and I say, you

810
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: don't trade away guys like that. Chris Brown mentioned now emotional,

811
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: really shady was in the locker room yesterday last night.

812
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: Let's listen in a portion of his comments to the

813
00:38:55,680 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: media last night after the Bill's loss the office. We're

814
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 1: not really doing well at all. A lot of small

815
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: mental mistakes, tons of pionies. I got two hundred yards

816
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: in this game with seven eight? Was that right? Was

817
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: the game eight? No, that's That's never happened with me,

818
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's different. It's a different season. Thirty years

819
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: old and playing I've been in high school. Stuff will

820
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: never happen to me. So it is tough. Despite despite

821
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: the struggles, are you still overall happy being here with

822
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: the Bills and being in Buffalo. I mean, now you're

823
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: you're taking me being frustrated as a Buffalo bill football

824
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: player compared to this mob mob my team. You know

825
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: this is my team, man. They they've done a lot

826
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: for me, um but loyalty to me. So I'm happy here.

827
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: But I don't don't matter if I was here or

828
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: anywhere else playing a season like this, you you'll be mad.

829
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: I I don't think it's just a matter of where

830
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: I'm at, It's just it's being taken placing and how

831
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: things are going offensively. How much does this cause you

832
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 1: to question your own ability to this point your breath,

833
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: I'll still complay. I'm all still comply defense, and I'll

834
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: still complay see the way to approach me when I'm

835
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 1: in the game. How much on the trade deadline? Playing

836
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: your by? Who knows? Man? It gets a pretty good answer.

837
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: Who knows? I don't know. I don't think he's going

838
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: to be dealt away, though, Chris, what do you think

839
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: I think they've got to be blown away with an

840
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: offer for it to happen third round or better, second round? Probably, yeah,

841
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: I would. The third round is not a blow a

842
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: way off, I would. I would think at two seconds.

843
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: That's absolute least a conditional three that can become a

844
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: two based on what he does. But um, that's not good.

845
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: I think it's got to be better than that. Yeah,

846
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: and you know, the argument at work here is this.

847
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: You have a young quarterback who's eventually going to be

848
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: back on the field, who knows when, and you have

849
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: an offense that is largely devoid of proven weapons. Yes,

850
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: McCoy's numbers are not what they have been in years past,

851
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 1: but it's not because of McCoy. It's because of everything

852
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: that's around him. If you subtract him now from the

853
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: offensive equation, when you put Josh Allen back on the field,

854
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: I think it makes it even harder, a harder task

855
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: for Josh Allen. And it's hard right now, not only

856
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: because of all the things that he has to figure out,

857
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: but because of the limited weapons that he has at

858
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: his disposal. You want to take another one away from

859
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: a young quarterback trying to learn on the job. You're

860
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: making it a really tough row to hoe for a

861
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback. In opinion, Yeah, I think that's crazy talk. Now,

862
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: you want to explore, you want to explore, You want

863
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: to explore, trading him in the off season because you

864
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: feel you'll be able to add I think you got

865
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: a drafty young running back next offseason. No matter what

866
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Lashawn's going to be entering the final year

867
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: of his contract. Ivory has got a one year deal.

868
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: That's up. I think Marcus Murphy is whether him or not.

869
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: There's guys out there, right, so you've got I think

870
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: you do have to draft one, not early, you know,

871
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: middle rounds. I mean several teams in this league you

872
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 1: have proven you can find quality talent in the middle

873
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: rounds at the running back because I would come our

874
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: a fifth round draft pick, you know, Kareem Hunt round pick. Yeah,

875
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: so they're out there, but I don't even know if

876
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: you waste a draft pick on one of those guys

877
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: when there's going to be a ton of them available

878
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: in the free agent market. And well, that's not a

879
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: position you traditionally want to overpay for it, right, So

880
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: I say, an age, it's quite the knowing you can

881
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: get a middle round talent that could help you if

882
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: you hit the right guy, you know, that's probably the

883
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: direction they go. And you have McCoy kind of lead

884
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: the thing next year and then you hand the baton

885
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: off after twenty nineteen to hopefully a young kid that's

886
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: showing you some promise that you drafted in the middle

887
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: round somewhere. We got a few more minutes with Chris Brown.

888
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: Will take a break and come back and finish up

889
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: with Chris. One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. And

890
00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. I'll come back One Bill's

891
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive, John Murphy, Steve Tasker, Chris

892
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: Brown from Buffalo Bills dot Com in studio with a

893
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: couple of minutes left here in this hour. Chris, we

894
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 1: thank you for coming by. I have this good news.

895
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: It's a little sunny out there today at right. Weather's

896
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: not bad the rest of the week. Most of the

897
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: sunshines in my heart. Just remember that, Chris. Uh. We

898
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 1: got some injury questions from yesterday first and foremost, said

899
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 1: Derek Anderson a four o'clock news conference today from Sean McDermott.

900
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: He may or may not update some of these, but

901
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 1: that's a problem if Derek Anderson's not ready to go right. Yeah,

902
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: And it was hard to discern what was going on

903
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: there with respect to the injury. I mean, he obviously

904
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 1: got knocked and then he was walking off with the

905
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: athletic trainer and the team doctor, you know, walking back

906
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: to the locker room under his own power. But it

907
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: was clear that something was wrong. Hopefully it's my or

908
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: in nature because we got a short week here, Yes

909
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: we do, and so he's got a he's got to

910
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,479
Speaker 1: get better in a hurry. So you know, you're hoping

911
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: it's not concussion related or something like that. Um, and

912
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: the guy did bury his helmet man noy in between

913
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: the shoulder blades there, so you hope it's not a

914
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: back issue or anything. We don't will hopefully coach McDermot

915
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: can at least shed some light on what he's dealing with. Yeah,

916
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: the location of the injury. Yeah, more than anything else.

917
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna get a prognosis in a

918
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: short week. And you've got Tremaine Emmons in concussion protocol. Stephen.

919
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: I were talking before he came out the air. There

920
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: was he got hurt, and I watched the game over today.

921
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: With about ten minutes left in the first half, you

922
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 1: could hear the helmets click, you know, he drilled well,

923
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: he lowered his helmet and hit Devlin. Devlin the fullback,

924
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: and you could see if you watch the game, and

925
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: I watched at this point, you see Tremaine was kind

926
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: of dazed a little bit. By the way, don't they

927
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: have an independent neurological observer they's supposed to pick up

928
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 1: I saw it on TV and picked up up on it.

929
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 1: But he stayed in the game, finished the first half,

930
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: and then didn't play in the second half with a concussion. Yeah,

931
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: and you know that's a loss. I mean, the way

932
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: Milano and Edmunds have been playing as a tandem there,

933
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you could argue they've been invaluable at that

934
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: second level just making plays in coverage not having him

935
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: and a team with the option to game plan for

936
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: him not being in there. Although you know, I will

937
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: give credit to Julian Stanford. You know, Lorenzo did as well.

938
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: After the game, he said he stepped in, did a

939
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: good job. They had a limited communication system for this

940
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: game because they know that the Patriots like to go tempo,

941
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: so coach Frasier kept the communication pre snap to a minimum.

942
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 1: He really kind of shucked it down to the cob

943
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: and said, look, we're gonna only have one two word

944
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: calls because when these guys catch us in base and

945
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 1: they start going, we want one and two word calls

946
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: out here. And so I think that facilitated Stanford coming

947
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: in and being able to execute the calls because they

948
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: were so short and nature getting people lined up. And

949
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: you know, he made a couple of plays too, a

950
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: nice third downplay. Yeah. The fact that Edmonds finished the

951
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: first half anyway, I guess boats wealth or whatever he

952
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: has can cutch and protocol will probably be the does

953
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: it I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.

954
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: I'm just stunning. First of all, there looked like helmet hits.

955
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: They could have been flagged two of them on that play.

956
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 1: Well it Tremaine lowered the helmet on the play, yeah,

957
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: to make a tackle. And secondly, they do have observers

958
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: who're supposed to watch her. You see Tremaine sit there

959
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: on the field for what two and a half three seconds,

960
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: You're like, okay, something's up here. But he also got

961
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: a penalty on the very next play, a hold on

962
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: that's right, Edleman. So I don't know whether it was

963
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: you know, he's kind of finding a little foggy, you know,

964
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: and decided to hang on for dear life or whatever.

965
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: He took a penalty on the next play, And I

966
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: want to ask you, Brownie, what do you think? And

967
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: generally speaking, trade deadline today four pm. I've been reading articles,

968
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: you know, all the way in the run up, and

969
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: there's been rumors flying all over the league, not just

970
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: with the Bills but every team. Do you really think

971
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: it's going to turn out out that there's going to

972
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: be a flurry of activity here at the deadline. I

973
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: think it depends on what your definition of flurry is.

974
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: I think there might be a handful of players that move.

975
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:12,479
Speaker 1: Name players that move. You know, Damarius Thomas sounds likely

976
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: to move, and you know that would make sense if

977
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: he goes to the Patriots, only because Josh McDaniels had

978
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: him in Denver when he coached there briefly, so there's

979
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: some familiarity there. And you know, maybe they're fed up

980
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: with Josh Gordon and just want to move on from

981
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: him they replace him with Thomas. There's talk that the

982
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: Patriots want to get Jamie Collins back from Cleveland, you know,

983
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: the player they traded away just last year. So you know,

984
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: you have some names that are floating around out there.

985
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure there are others that even the national news

986
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,479
Speaker 1: breakers still don't know about that could come to pass.

987
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: But if there's more than five or six, I'll be surprised.

988
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: I think there'll be a couple of teams that make

989
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: some critical moves, you know, and say we're going for it,

990
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: but I don't know if it's going to go much pass. Yeah,

991
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: but at this point at one o'clock, we haven't heard anything.

992
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 1: There's nothing happening. If it happens in the next three hours,

993
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: I think I'll be a little bit shocked. And I'm

994
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: a little bit shocked that it hasn't happened. Well, I've

995
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: seen something. I will say this, you have a new

996
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: generation of general managers in this league who are far

997
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: more willing to deal than the previous generation. They do

998
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: not have a problem moving players, and I think it's

999
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: partly due to the fact that with the cap going

1000
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 1: up every year, the impact to your team salary cap

1001
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 1: is lesser than it used to be ten years ago,

1002
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: where if you traded a guy and you know eight

1003
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: the amortized bonus money that hit your cap immediately, you

1004
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 1: know it was it was palpitating having to do something

1005
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: like that. The impact is far less than it used

1006
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: to be, and I think that's made gms more apt

1007
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: to pull the trigger on a deal that they feel

1008
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: could get their team over the top. One of the

1009
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: things that's interesting about this, one of the reasons you

1010
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: never saw trades in the NFL because the offenses and

1011
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: defense were always so complicated that it was hard to

1012
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: get the guy up to speed, like we've seen the

1013
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: Bills do with Derek Anderson and like some other players.

1014
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: And one of the reasons some teams will trade a

1015
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: player ways is just not getting it. So I think

1016
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: that's kind of gone away as well because they're starting

1017
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: to use some techniques and some coaching and some offensive

1018
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 1: terminologies and some some schemes that help the players pick

1019
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: it up just to hit the ground mystery. Yeah, I

1020
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 1: hit ground a little bit. Yeah, they can get quicker

1021
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: contribution from guys who haven't been there through the OTAs

1022
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: and the training kids getting closer to the college game, right, Chris,

1023
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: what's coming up on the website Buffalo Bills dot com

1024
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: this afternoon? Yeah, Well, you know, we basically covered what

1025
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: Leshawn said in the locker room last night, and that's

1026
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: up there now, along with some numbers in there about

1027
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: some of the offenses that Lean pointed to specifically, which

1028
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: are eye opening, yeah, to say the least. But we're

1029
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: going to kind of chronicle a little bit later in

1030
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: the week where this defense is headed. You know, kind

1031
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: of some projections now that we're at the midway pointing

1032
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: the season, because there are some encouraging numbers there. You

1033
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: just hope that the offense can at least get themselves

1034
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 1: to serviceable to help this defense and put themselves in

1035
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: positions to win some games here. I will say this too.

1036
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: First half of the season, Bills I think had the

1037
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: fourth hardest strength of schedule in the league. Second half

1038
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: of the season they have one of the easiest strength

1039
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: of schedules in the league. You hope they can help us.

1040
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: You hope they can roll up some wins here in

1041
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 1: the second half of stones. No matter who you're playing,

1042
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna need scoring. It is way easier. Storing is

1043
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: unquestionably job one. You can't win game zero zero and

1044
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,240
Speaker 1: Sean mcdermot's news conference at four up on the website,

1045
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: and so yes, we'll have quick hits later this afternoon,

1046
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: basically a synopsis of some of the top things that

1047
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,720
Speaker 1: coach mentions right for Chris Brown, Bills Inside or Buffalo

1048
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: Bills dot Com. Thank you. Peter King coming up next

1049
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: Football Morning in America, Pro Football Talk, NBC Sports his

1050
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: take on Monday Night Football and the trade deadline. We'll

1051
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: talk with Peter about that when we come back. One

1052
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: Bill's Hive from One Bills Drive and this is Buffalo

1053
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: Bills Radio, Bufalo Hills Radio Network Sports Update from One

1054
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: Bills Drive. Gonna be an interesting couple of hours with

1055
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: the trade deadline a couple of hours away, and the

1056
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,919
Speaker 1: Bills are just hours removed from their loss on Monday

1057
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: Night Football, the twenty five to six loss to the

1058
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: New England Patriots. A great game for the Buffalo defense

1059
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: and no touchdown scored for the Buffalo offense. Eight consecutive

1060
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: quarters without a touchdown scored by the Buffalo offense. Next

1061
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: up the Chicago Bears at home on Sunday afternoon here

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Speaker 1: at New Airfield. The Bills said yesterday they hosted free

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Speaker 1: agent wide receiver Torrell Prior on a visit. He was here,

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Speaker 1: according to Sean McDermot, spent with time with him prior

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Speaker 1: to twenty nine years old. Released by the Jets earlier

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Speaker 1: this month after suffering a grain injury. He is healthy now.

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Speaker 1: One ESPN report says Prior had a contract offer from

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Speaker 1: the Bills, but no confirmation on that from the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: Last night halftime, the Bills retired Thurman Thomas number thirty

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Speaker 1: four during ceremony, third player in Bill's history to get

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Speaker 1: that honor. Jim Kelly had his twelve retired in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and one and Bruce Smith's number seventy eight retired

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Speaker 1: in two sixteen. After the game, la Sean McCoy said

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Speaker 1: he doesn't know if the Bills are going to trade him.

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Speaker 1: It was running back another rough game, thirteen yards on

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Speaker 1: twelve carries. He's been the subject of some trade rumors,

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Speaker 1: but nothing yet. No reports yet on that. Ian Rappaport

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Speaker 1: of NFL Network says that Houston Texans are closing in

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Speaker 1: on a deal for Bronco's wide receiver to Maryus Thomas

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Speaker 1: in exchange for a mid round draft pick. Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 1: say they're not giving up on the season, they're just rebooting,

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Speaker 1: as they fired coach Hugh Jackson and offensive coordinator Todd

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Speaker 1: Hailey yesterday. General manager John Dorsey says the Brown's focus

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Speaker 1: is on the final eight games. Of the season and

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Speaker 1: trying to help interim head coach Greg Williams get as

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Speaker 1: many wins as he can. Giants head coach Pat Shermoury

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Speaker 1: will not fully commit to Eli Manning as a starting

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Speaker 1: quarterback for the Giants next game two weeks away against

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Speaker 1: San Francisco. Giants have a bye this week. Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: have fired their offensive line coach Paul Alexander. Assistant ol

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Speaker 1: coach Mark Colombo replaces him. NFL says it will play

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Speaker 1: four games in London next season, three there this year,

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Speaker 1: and the Savers home to Calgary tonight at key Bank

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Speaker 1: Center seven o'clock faceoff Buffalo three oh and one over

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Speaker 1: their last four games. And that is the update from

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. John Murphy steam Tasker here until three

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Speaker 1: o'clock today talking about the Bills, the post mortem on

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Speaker 1: last night's loss to the Patriots, NFL trade deadline. Who

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Speaker 1: better to look at the league and a global perspective

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Speaker 1: for us than the longtime pro football writer for Sports

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Speaker 1: Illustrated Now with Football Morning in America, Pro Football Talk,

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Speaker 1: NBC Sports happy to have Peter King on the line

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Speaker 1: with us. Peter, John Murphy and Steam task are in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Hello, guys, how are you. We're good?

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on with us your thoughts on last

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Speaker 1: night's Bills game. You probably kept an eye on it.

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Speaker 1: Monday night football. Huh yeah. I mean, you know, I

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Speaker 1: guess I would look at it this way. I mean,

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00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: you know, the Bills. Bills have had some really really

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00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: weird football games this year. You give up nine the

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00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 1: coal and you shut down Brady for three quarters. I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's just somebody please figure out this team

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Speaker 1: and this sport basically in general. But I think I

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Speaker 1: think the biggest takeaway from last night is that, you know, look,

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Speaker 1: a Monday night game in Buffalo is something that the

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Speaker 1: NFL should have every year. And I don't care about

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Speaker 1: the you know, I don't care about the relative strength

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Speaker 1: or weakness of the team. I just think the way

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Speaker 1: that people in in Western New York makes such an

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Speaker 1: event of that event is special, and I think it

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Speaker 1: played into a lot of what happened in the game.

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Speaker 1: And the fact is, you know, you're not going to

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Speaker 1: have a good offense this year in Buffalo period. That's

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Speaker 1: you know, and the defense is going to have to

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Speaker 1: win these games. Defense and special teams. It's very, very

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Speaker 1: hard to do, not only when you're playing Tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: but when you're playing a lot of quarterbacks in the

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Speaker 1: league this year because everything is, you know, tilted towards

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Speaker 1: the offense so much. Right now, just one question you

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Speaker 1: I have to say in your Football Morning in America

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00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: COM on Monday, you kind of saw it coming. You

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Speaker 1: thought the Bills might take advantage of that crowd, noise

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00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: and that great support and shut down the Patriots. You

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00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,439
Speaker 1: had New England winning at seventeen to nine. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: too far from that. Peter, I always feel like if

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00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 1: there is going to be an emotional game, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm talking about any stadium in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: any market in the NFL. I include the best teams,

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Speaker 1: I include the loudest stadiums. There's something about playing a

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00:55:54,400 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: game in Orchard Park that that the the crowd and

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00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: the place itself is a factor, period and a lot

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00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 1: of times you say, wow, it's tough to win in Seattle.

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00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: It's tough to win all that, you know, and it

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00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 1: is tough to win in a lot of different places.

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00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: Seattle's really tough to win. But a primetime game, h

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00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: you know, a big game in Buffalo. I've tried. I've

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00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: tried to tell people this about Patriots Bills games in

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Speaker 1: Buffalo over the years. I think I've been to three

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00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: of them. It's like it's it's I mean, people laugh

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00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: when I say this, but I mean, it's Red Socks

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00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: Yankees playoff game. It's the people in Buffalo want to

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00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: win that game bad. And it's just and you say, well,

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Speaker 1: why they're not going anywhere this year? And I and

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Speaker 1: I my feeling is, well, that's precisely the reason last

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Speaker 1: night was a playoff game for the people who live

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00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: in Buffalo period, because there's not going to be any

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00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: layoff games there this year. It's going to be the

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Speaker 1: last huge moment this year for that franchise. And they

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00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,479
Speaker 1: almost made it a great moment, but again, it would

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Speaker 1: have been a fairy tale to win that game, obviously,

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00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: and the defense played its part, but you know, you're

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Speaker 1: just not going to be able to turn it around

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Speaker 1: offensively this year. Yeah, and there's there's a lot of moments.

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Speaker 1: It was looking to be a pretty good moment for

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Speaker 1: that defense last night particular. They did do a nice job,

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Speaker 1: but there's also a lot of teams around the league

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Speaker 1: that this is going there is something to play for

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Speaker 1: this year. There is some playoff hopes and dreams. And

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Speaker 1: the trade deadline is today at four o'clock. And Pete

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Speaker 1: and I know you talked to guys all around the league,

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Speaker 1: and I've read a bunch of articles and I've been

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Speaker 1: talking about it. There was some conjecture that there are

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Speaker 1: going to be a lot of trades at the at

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Speaker 1: the deadline this year. Nothing yet. What do you think

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Speaker 1: is going to happen the next three hours. Well, that's

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Speaker 1: a great question, Steve. I would have predicted that they're

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Speaker 1: over the weekend. There was a lot of discussion. A lot.

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Speaker 1: I think it's centered around I think the Patriots would

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Speaker 1: be interested in a receiver. I do not put it

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Speaker 1: past them to go get Damarus Thomas of Denver. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it will happen. I'm just saying that

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Speaker 1: it's possible. One of the things I wrote about yesterday

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00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: in my column that nobody really considers. Okay, and let's

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Speaker 1: use New England as an example. New England has four

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Speaker 1: picks in the top three rounds all right this year

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Speaker 1: in the draft are in twenty nineteen as of now, okay,

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Speaker 1: and you say, okay, well that's that's that's fine, that's

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Speaker 1: an extra draft choice, blah blah blah. But actually the

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Speaker 1: Patriots have six picks in the first three rounds because

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Speaker 1: they will be getting two third round compensatory picks, which

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Speaker 1: happened when you louse high cost guys in free agency,

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Speaker 1: and they lost Nate Soldier and Malcolm Butler both for

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Speaker 1: huge money, and so now they're going to get two

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00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: threets and everybody said, well, okay, well what does that mean.

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Speaker 1: It allows the Patriots to say, hey, listen, we're in

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Speaker 1: great shape in the draft next year, and we can

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Speaker 1: trade one of these six picks in the first three

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Speaker 1: rounds if you can help us this year. So let's

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Speaker 1: just say you're the Patriots and you have two spots

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Speaker 1: right now, that and probably three spots. You'd like to

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Speaker 1: have a pass rusher, you'd like to have a corner,

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Speaker 1: and you'd like to have an extra receiver. And I

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00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: think people might look at and say, well, why receiver,

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Speaker 1: And I say, because very simply, I don't think he

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Speaker 1: can count on Josh Gordon. But be that as it may.

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Speaker 1: You look around now, and you got the Giants, who

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Speaker 1: I think you could get Generus Jenkins from at Denver.

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Speaker 1: You could certainly get Damarrius Thomas from the Broncos, and

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Speaker 1: you might be able to get Olivier Vernon from the Giants,

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Speaker 1: the pass rusher. Anyway, my only point is there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of teams right now who want to sell. As

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Speaker 1: one team president told me on Saturday, this is as

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Speaker 1: big of a buyer's markets as he remembers. And what

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Speaker 1: he means is that there's a lot of people who

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Speaker 1: want to trade a lot of players, and there aren't

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Speaker 1: necessarily all that many teams that are going to be

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Speaker 1: aggressive to try to get them. But I do think

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Speaker 1: because there are good players out there on the market,

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Speaker 1: that still we're going to see three or four trades

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Speaker 1: in the next three hours. Now, again, they don't sell

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Speaker 1: insurance for this kind of stuff, but I just think

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Speaker 1: it makes too much sense for contending teams with all

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Speaker 1: the guys who are available, if you do what happened

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Speaker 1: to the NFL trade deadline the last two or three years.

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Speaker 1: It used to be sleepy, nothing ever happened. Now it's

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Speaker 1: kind of a fun day. What happened, well, they moved

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Speaker 1: it back two weeks. I think in two and twelves,

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Speaker 1: they moved it back two weeks, so now instead of

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Speaker 1: it being six weeks into the season and maybe you're

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Speaker 1: one and four or two and four and you're not

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01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 1: really sure whether you're still in it, now basically you're

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Speaker 1: halfway through the season kind of know you're out of

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Speaker 1: it by that point. There's that And I really believe

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Speaker 1: that that the caliber of general manager in the league

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Speaker 1: has changed. And by that, I mean if you look

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Speaker 1: at the young general managers, the aggressive general managers. You know,

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Speaker 1: Brandon Bean is one of them, Howie Roseman in Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: John Schneider in Seattle. There's a lot of general managers

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Speaker 1: right now who are aggressive, really aggressive, and they play

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Speaker 1: for today. This is not all draft picks are so

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Speaker 1: sacred we don't want to get rid of them. They're

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Speaker 1: playing for today. And I think those are a couple

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Speaker 1: of reasons why it's happening this way. I think one

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01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 1: of the things, also, Peter, you see these guys, a

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01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: lot of owners around the league kind of churned not

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01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: only the roster at the bottom of the roster, they

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01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: also churned the head front office. I think the gems

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01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: are in as much pressure to win immediately or to

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Speaker 1: make a splash that makes a difference in a team,

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Speaker 1: even if it's just for a week. To make that

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Speaker 1: change and to see some positive things happen, I think

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Speaker 1: goes a long way towards job security for GMS. Steve.

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Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think teams have had the

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Speaker 1: desire to win today and all that, but I think

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01:02:56,320 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways they haven't put their actions

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Speaker 1: where their mouth is, basically because they haven't done some

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Speaker 1: of the things that you're seeing being done now and

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Speaker 1: a lot of aggressive trades being made. So I would

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Speaker 1: agree with you. I think teams are impatient. They want

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Speaker 1: to win now. I just think they're acting on it

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Speaker 1: more than they used to, and they're doing it in

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Speaker 1: part because these are not your father's general managers who

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01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: would always be uber patient at the trading deadline. And

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Speaker 1: the only trade that you really liked is one that

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Speaker 1: you felt like you really beat the opposition, you really

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Speaker 1: won this trade. And in my opinion, when I look

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Speaker 1: at it, I think teams are fine if it's a

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Speaker 1: fifty fifty trade. I think they're happy both teams can

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Speaker 1: get something out of it and they feel good about that.

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Speaker 1: Peter King joins us from Football Morning in America longtime

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Speaker 1: NFL columnists Peter, Before I let you go, any thoughts

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Speaker 1: on the end season turmoil in Cleveland with the Browns,

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Speaker 1: A coaching change, a coordinator change. It was. It was

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Speaker 1: pretty predictable, wasn't it when you think about it. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I thought, once they turned it around a

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Speaker 1: little bit offensively, that they were going to just give

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Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson this year. And honestly, John, that is what

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Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson a little more than twenty four hours ago,

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Speaker 1: was in a meeting with the executives in the need

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Speaker 1: and the owner, you know, Jimmy Haslin, basically saying, please

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Speaker 1: give me the rest of this year. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: you know, I'll do what I have to do. But

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Speaker 1: I think they felt like, okay, you know Hugh Jackson essentially,

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Speaker 1: you know, at the beginning of the year, before this

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Speaker 1: year or higher, Todd Haley handed them the keys to

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Speaker 1: the offense. Things aren't going well the last two or three,

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Speaker 1: last three or four weeks with the offense. And now

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Speaker 1: he basically says, well, and I don't know if it

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Speaker 1: came to exactly this, he would have fired Todd Haley

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Speaker 1: and taken back the offensive self, and I think they

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Speaker 1: felt like, Okay, enough, you know, we've we've had enough change,

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Speaker 1: he's had enough chances. And yeah, it's pretty tough. You're

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Speaker 1: three thirty six and one and things are going badly

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Speaker 1: right now. I think Jimmy has them said I've had enough.

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Speaker 1: We got to move on. Do you think that Greg

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Speaker 1: Williams took that job without the caveat that he could

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Speaker 1: win it if the if the team improves. Yeah, Steve,

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Speaker 1: I think we're all guessing a little bit. But my

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Speaker 1: thing was that if the Browns got to a point

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Speaker 1: where they won five or six games and things were

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Speaker 1: looking great with Baker Mayfield, I think he could have

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Speaker 1: kept his job. But no one basically saw sort of

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Speaker 1: the internal discord coming that that really happened with this team.

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Speaker 1: So that's why I think they made them all interesting days,

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Speaker 1: maybe a couple of interesting hours ahead. Peter, thank you

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Speaker 1: for joining us. We'll talk you again next week. Sounds great, guys,

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Peter King is the NBC foot Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Talk sports columns covering in the NFL rights Football Morning

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Speaker 1: in America every Monday, and that's another great column this week,

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Speaker 1: Football Morning in America from Peter King talking about the

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Speaker 1: Bills a lot today and a lot more to come.

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Speaker 1: We're going to discuss Thurman thomas halftime ceremony in a moment,

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Speaker 1: but we want to review. We got phone lines open.

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Speaker 1: Eight oh three oh five fifty is a number outside Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: It's a toll free call one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. Looking ahead, what's the best hope

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Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills offense? Maybe you think there's no hope.

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Speaker 1: That's acceptable if you want to say that. A couple

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Speaker 1: of people have said on Twitter, no hope. I'm sad.

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Speaker 1: That's sad. It's a sad Tuesday after a Monday night

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Speaker 1: lost like that, particularly when he got one side of

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Speaker 1: the ball playing so well. I think the thing about

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Speaker 1: it is, you think about this, Murph, and I don't

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Speaker 1: want to I don't want to go too far down

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Speaker 1: the road. And you know, we've all got this shangrilof

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Speaker 1: point on the horizon where we're winning every game by

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Speaker 1: fifty points. But the way the team put together the

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Speaker 1: defensive side of the football in the last two years,

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Speaker 1: if they can have that kind of success on the

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Speaker 1: other side of the football, and people tend to particularly

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Speaker 1: with a defensive head coach who puts together a defense

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Speaker 1: like Sean McDermott has, and it's a pretty good defense

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Speaker 1: at times. Do you give them the credit for maybe

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Speaker 1: being able to do that? When they have the assets,

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Speaker 1: when they have the cap space, when they have the

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Speaker 1: free agent money to spend, when they have the draft

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Speaker 1: picks to spend, and the freedom to do that, can

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Speaker 1: they put together an offense that is complimentary to the

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Speaker 1: defense they've already built? That's do you tend not to

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Speaker 1: give the guy the credit to be able to do

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Speaker 1: it because you think, yeah, he's a defensive expert, he

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Speaker 1: should be able to build a good defense. Do you

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Speaker 1: think people are gonna when they see this offense take

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Speaker 1: shape in the next few months here, either at the

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Speaker 1: second half of this season or in the next year

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Speaker 1: when they start picking free agents, when they start getting

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Speaker 1: ready for the draft, do you think there's any faith

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Speaker 1: that they're gonna be able to put it together as

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Speaker 1: well as they did on the defensive side right now? Yeah? No, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think very little faith. Yeah, but we're asking on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: you know, where's the hope? And check the Twitter lineup here.

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Speaker 1: Most of you put your hope in the return of

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Speaker 1: quarterback Josh Allen. Sixty three percent say you're the best

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Speaker 1: hope for the Bill's offense second half of the season

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Speaker 1: is the return of Josh Allen, the rookie. Eighteen percent

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Speaker 1: of you say it's getting some help in the trade market.

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Speaker 1: We're down to two and a half hours for that

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Speaker 1: to happen. Thirteen percent of something else in mind. Six

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Speaker 1: percent say a return to form for Lashawn McCoy. I

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Speaker 1: do think Chris Brown made a really good point, and

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Speaker 1: I'm inclined to agree with him on this. I'm not

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't write off Lashaw McCoy yet this season a

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Speaker 1: really bad first half of the season. He is extremely

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Speaker 1: down about it, you could tell from his comments last night.

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Speaker 1: But there's still a role for shitty McCoy to play

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Speaker 1: the one dynamic playmaker on the offensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: And maybe that role is as a pass receiver. Maybe

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Speaker 1: Chris is right. Line them up, spread them out and

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Speaker 1: throw it down field. You can get a line, you

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Speaker 1: can get yards from scrimmage with Lashawn McCoy, and I

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Speaker 1: get Brown, he's got him, you know. Bring Ivory and

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Speaker 1: McCoy on the field together, use McCoy as a back

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Speaker 1: and then split him out either shift him out there

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Speaker 1: after pre snap and I just move him around so

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Speaker 1: that you can get him the football in space and

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Speaker 1: get him out from behind the offensive line. Ivory's more

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Speaker 1: of a big, physical runner. You think you can still

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Speaker 1: hand it off to him on occasion and have some

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Speaker 1: production there. And he's shown the ability to be a

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Speaker 1: really good back. And I think a lot of Bill's

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Speaker 1: fans are happy they've got Ivory. He's flashed well for him.

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Speaker 1: But I agree with Brownie to this extent. Leshaun has

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Speaker 1: still got a lot to offer this offense, and they

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Speaker 1: got to find ways to get him the football, and

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Speaker 1: they've splitting him out and throwing him in the football helps.

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Speaker 1: I think it comes down to when you do that, Listen,

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Speaker 1: the defense isn't gonna sit there and watch you do it.

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Speaker 1: If you start bringing LaShaun McCoy in with Ivory into

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Speaker 1: the backfield, they're gonna have you do force the defense

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Speaker 1: to make a decision. Are they gonna come in heavy

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Speaker 1: and say you got two running backs in, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: bring in another linebacker and muscle up for the run formation.

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Speaker 1: And then when you split it out, you know, if

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Speaker 1: you start splitting it out too much and start giving

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Speaker 1: him the ball in space and use him as a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. They're going to counter you with a safety

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Speaker 1: or a corner and go nickel or dime to counter that.

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna have a matchup issue. Then kind Lashawan

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Speaker 1: McCoy beat a corner out on the outside and some

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Speaker 1: teams will take that matchup. But it'll be interesting to see.

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Speaker 1: That's what you're looking at if you start doing that.

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot to be said for the creativity

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Speaker 1: the Brian Dable brings to the table. They did a

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Speaker 1: little bit with the wildcat. We'll see what he has

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Speaker 1: up his sleeves. But you can bet they are burning

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Speaker 1: the midnight oil trying to manufacture some way scorn points.

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Speaker 1: Let us know where you think the hope lies. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you don't think there's any hope at all, but let's

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Speaker 1: hear from your phone. Line is open at eight oh

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Speaker 1: three fifteen and toll free one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. They had a stiff upper lip

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Speaker 1: in the Buffalo locker Room last night. I was there

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Speaker 1: late last night doing some of the interviews. Let's listen

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Speaker 1: Visit units dot org. Here we go around the locker room.

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Speaker 1: Head coach Sean McDermott on Buffalo's offensive futility. It's clearly

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Speaker 1: not good enough. I thought the defense came out and

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Speaker 1: and played played well at times, and um, you know, offensively,

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Speaker 1: we shot ourselves in the foot a little bit there

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Speaker 1: at times, and then um, just couldn't get it going enough.

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Speaker 1: We had some some first downs, but couldn't get it

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Speaker 1: going enough in particular as we started to get it going.

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Speaker 1: So out to your question, and uh, you gotta continue

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Speaker 1: to go back and find answers, find solution. Wide receiver

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Speaker 1: Calvin Benjamin on the Buffalo offense struggling, I can't wait

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Speaker 1: to say, man, I mean, I know there's no I

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Speaker 1: think we just gotta keep working to get just get

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Speaker 1: it fixed, you know, because like you said, the defense

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Speaker 1: haven't playing legs out. We know the game come down

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Speaker 1: to points and we gotta put points on the board.

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Speaker 1: Why about Zay Jones at his frustration with the offensive struggles.

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Speaker 1: It's just not enough. It's not good enough offensively, it's

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Speaker 1: not good enough. Professional athletes you know, we expect to

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Speaker 1: compete at a high level and do the best that

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Speaker 1: we can, and we're not getting the job done, and

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Speaker 1: it's frustrating. You know, it hurts, especially you have a

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Speaker 1: great fan base that supports you and come out to

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Speaker 1: every game. It's just it's just us. Light back of

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Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander on the Bill's success Defensively, guys have made

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Speaker 1: some good play, some good type coverage. Um was I

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Speaker 1: able to get to him a little bit too, even

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Speaker 1: I'm uncomfortable and uh you know, um so it's a

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Speaker 1: good combination of a guesst Russian coverage today, but obviously

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Speaker 1: wasn't good enough. We need to be created some type

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Speaker 1: of turnover, extra possession and take some points off and

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Speaker 1: then find a way to score like they did today

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Speaker 1: to kind of put us in a position where we

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Speaker 1: could have maybe have won the game again. Defensive tackle

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Speaker 1: Kyle Williams, The Bill's disrupted Tom Brady's timing. I thinking

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Speaker 1: the thing is disrupt him getting to move around. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's he's just he's so tough to sack because of

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Speaker 1: you know, how he can distribute the football and do

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Speaker 1: other stuf. But trying to get him to move his

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Speaker 1: feet is a pivotal thing for us. But like I said,

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Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, it come

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Speaker 1: down to they created a couple of turnovers and we didn't.

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Speaker 1: It ends up being the difference in the game. Safety

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Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer, the Buffalo defense has been carrying the low.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think each week we kind of come

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Speaker 1: in with the mindset that we're gonna have to be

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Speaker 1: the ones that win the game, that we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to be the ones that take the football away. And

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Speaker 1: like I said, give our offense good field position in

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Speaker 1: order to put points up on the board. And like then,

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Speaker 1: like I said, again, so short of that today. And

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Speaker 1: this is this team game. Man. You can say what

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Speaker 1: you want, like I said, offense defense best teams, but

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Speaker 1: we got to figure out ways to get offensive football

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Speaker 1: cyclists they go around the locker room, presented about unit's

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Speaker 1: donate blood, visit units dot org. Steve Tasker John m

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Speaker 1: repeats One Bills Live from One Bills Drive. When we

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Speaker 1: come back, we'll talk with you about last night's game.

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Speaker 1: To struggles with the Buffalo offense, but we do have

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Speaker 1: to spend some time talk about the halftime ceremony. It

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Speaker 1: was amazing last night at halftime. Yeah, it was great.

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Speaker 1: It was after we get off the show and you

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01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 1: and I took our little naps. You gotta talk about that. Yeah, Yeah,

1480
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 1: there was a nice tailgate. It was. It was a

1481
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 1: private tailgate here at the inside the ad prove inside

1482
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 1: of the field House. You got to see a ton

1483
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 1: of guys. It was. It was a blast. We'll talk

1484
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 1: more about this in a moment or two. Come on back.

1485
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 1: One Bill's line from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo

1486
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio to all of my fans. Some of y'all

1487
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 1: are crazy as hell, and you know who you are.

1488
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 1: But you have supported me throughout my entire career and

1489
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 1: beyond good times and bad. I love each and every

1490
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: one of you with more than you will ever know. Well,

1491
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 1: there y'all. Thurman, Thomas Bills All time, running back, Hall

1492
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 1: of Famer Thurman time. I feel like I'm speaking in

1493
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 1: the city now too. Today today I feel feel feel

1494
01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 1: like the luckiest man now. Thurman was great last night.

1495
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 1: It was one of the highlights of last night's event.

1496
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 1: It was a great, great atmosphere at New Airfield last night.

1497
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 1: The offense we've talked about. We'll talk more about it,

1498
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 1: but halftime Thurman Thomas as his number, officially retired, the

1499
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 1: culmination of what two or three days of celebration or Steve,

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01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 1: I mentioned you about the party. I had the good

1501
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,679
Speaker 1: fortune to attend Sunday night and you spent pre game

1502
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 1: last night tail game with all of your budd During

1503
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 1: the game, they we all watched the game from the

1504
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 1: same sweere. Most of us were in the same suite

1505
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 1: up in the Mt. Bank Club, or maybe it was

1506
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 1: the business class or the other side, but it was.

1507
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 1: It was great. Bunches and bunches of former players showed up.

1508
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 1: They all had a connection to Thurman. If even if

1509
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 1: they didn't have a connection to Thurman, they felt connected

1510
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 1: to him. Last night. The team, the organization treated all

1511
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 1: those guys me included really well. Uh. We had a

1512
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 1: wonderful party here in the field house pre game. Thurm

1513
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 1: and Patting their whole family was there and a lot

1514
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 1: of guys brought their wives back. Um, so all the

1515
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 1: families kind of had a chance to get together. And

1516
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 1: I thought the stadium look absolutely fantastic. You know, the

1517
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,600
Speaker 1: red radiant heating for the club seats. I know, it

1518
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 1: looks great. It looked great, looks really good. They have

1519
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 1: Kelly and Marv Levy and Bollion and Steve and all

1520
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 1: those players. Players from different garros too. It wasn't just

1521
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 1: your Marlin Briscoe was there, has back, you know, Nate

1522
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 1: Turner was there, like Chris Hale, good friend of mine.

1523
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 1: We covered a lot of kicks together. Mark Pike was there,

1524
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 1: real close friend of mine. Um, just a ton of

1525
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 1: guys that made the effort to come back and and um,

1526
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 1: you know, hats off to the organization for pulling it

1527
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 1: off in that way. Yeah, and you know, logistically and

1528
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 1: obviously the game is the thing. But to pull that

1529
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 1: off and to get all that out there in what

1530
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 1: twelve or maybe thirteen minutes, to get everybody's speeches in

1531
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 1: and everybody out and off the field, it's it's a

1532
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: it's a heavy left. I mean, you got twelve minutes

1533
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:56,560
Speaker 1: to do all that. And there's a little pressure on

1534
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 1: it too. That after Thurman's it was over and the

1535
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 1: lights came back up. You know, all the veteran, all

1536
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 1: the the alumni guys rushed Thurman and we had this

1537
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 1: kind of like huddle, right, and were your idea? Well,

1538
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 1: and it wasn't my idea, but I was. We just

1539
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 1: kind of rushed Thurman to give him a big group hug, right, yea,

1540
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 1: and that kind of the staff that's in charge of that,

1541
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 1: you know, the crew that's in charge of getting us

1542
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 1: on and off. They're panicked a little bit because the

1543
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 1: legal levy of fine against the team if they don't,

1544
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 1: you know, get that off the field right right, right,

1545
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 1: so right, So so we were, you know, you know,

1546
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 1: we I think they were a little later. They did.

1547
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 1: The kick came off on time, but no, I don't yeah,

1548
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if they'll hear about

1549
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 1: it or not. But certainly it was um um for

1550
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 1: the for the alumni, and I'm sure for Thurman and

1551
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,680
Speaker 1: his family. Was really well worth it. It was it was.

1552
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 1: It was really awesome, and I was the stadium looked awesome,

1553
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 1: it looked fantastic. Chris Burman was the master of ceremonies

1554
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 1: and did a great job. And then Thurman spoken, had

1555
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 1: a tremendous word and really put the spotlight on teammates

1556
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 1: and family. Here's some of what Thurman had to see

1557
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 1: you last night. Guidance from coaches that were absolute best

1558
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 1: of the best. I don't have to tell anyone how

1559
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 1: much I love Marve Leavy. Marvel would often say, where

1560
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,679
Speaker 1: else would you be? Rather than right here, right now,

1561
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 1: right again? Coach? I received a call. I received a

1562
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 1: call about two weeks ago from Bruce Smith. He asked me, Squatty,

1563
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 1: do you know what it really means to have your

1564
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 1: jersey retired? He said, Thurman, do you realize the importance

1565
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 1: of it? I do now, Bruce, and now I'm here

1566
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 1: with all of you. I realized that even more. My

1567
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 1: teammates not only made me a better football player, but

1568
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:01,599
Speaker 1: made me a better man. Jim Darren, Carneers, Andre Steve,

1569
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 1: Chris Kenny, and Ken Hall rest in peace, my brother,

1570
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 1: just to name a few. I was lucky enough to

1571
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 1: marry a girl from of my dreams, one hundred percent

1572
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 1: from Buffalo. My wife, Patty has been by my side

1573
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 1: for thirty one years. She showed me how important it

1574
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 1: is to just be a simple man, and together we

1575
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 1: learned that the greatest life's gift come with humility. Patty

1576
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 1: and I have four beautiful, smart and passionate children, Olivia, Angel,

1577
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 1: Annie and Thurn you all and Mommy or my world.

1578
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:44,560
Speaker 1: We added another addition to our family a couple of

1579
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 1: years ago, from a few grown babies that we consider

1580
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 1: our family. Ken Mary met me, Hey, and the dear.

1581
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 1: I love you all so much. I never thought when

1582
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 1: I retired that I would get to experience the singular

1583
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 1: thrill of coming out of the tunnel and onto this

1584
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,640
Speaker 1: field in front of you all once again. But I

1585
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 1: am experiencing that right now. From this point on, when

1586
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 1: I look up and see the number thirty four retired

1587
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:15,560
Speaker 1: under my name, I'll be reminded that number doesn't just

1588
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 1: belong to me. It belongs to the Bills fans everywhere.

1589
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 1: Thank you, God, bless I love you, Thurman Thomas to

1590
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 1: feel good moment of the evening last night, and maybe

1591
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 1: of the season. Quite frankly, the whole couple of days

1592
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 1: were just amazing that Thurman was great about it all.

1593
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah he was, And we were teasing him

1594
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 1: in the run up, you and I both and because

1595
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:40,560
Speaker 1: it was like, you know, festivals third, we gotta do

1596
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 1: this for Thurman this week and next week we got

1597
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 1: another thing. And it was all in the lead up,

1598
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 1: in the culmination of last night and and it was.

1599
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 1: It was really great because it turned out to be

1600
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 1: a wonderful evening despite the outcome of the game. And

1601
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 1: one reason was that it was cruddy weather during the day.

1602
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 1: It cleared off that night, it was clear, it was bright,

1603
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 1: it was cold, and as you said, the city and

1604
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:07,640
Speaker 1: the fans and the atmosphere was just off the chart spectacular.

1605
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:09,680
Speaker 1: It was just a lot of fun to witness it.

1606
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 1: And like I said, you know, it's been a while

1607
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 1: since I've been actually be able to relax and just

1608
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 1: be a fan, and it was so fun, great night fun.

1609
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 1: I believe we have Thurman on the show tomorrow, so

1610
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 1: we'll kind of recap with him on that if we

1611
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 1: do get him on the show tomorrow. Twitter Paul Today,

1612
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:28,680
Speaker 1: what's the best hope for the Buffalo Bill's offense in

1613
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:31,599
Speaker 1: the upcoming second half of the season? On Twitter, sixty

1614
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 1: two percent of you say you think the best hope

1615
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 1: is that Josh Allen comes back and is better than

1616
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 1: when he left with injury. Eighteen percent say you think

1617
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 1: maybe some help in the trade market coming up in

1618
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:44,679
Speaker 1: the next couple of hours. Maybe fourteen percent have something

1619
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 1: else in mind. Six percent say a return to form

1620
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 1: for Lashawn McCoy sake some calls on this particular issue.

1621
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 1: Frank on the line, Franco ahead, welcome to the show. Hello, Frank,

1622
01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,919
Speaker 1: are you gone? You're gone? How about Joel and Tanawan?

1623
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 1: Ay Joel? Hey guys, it's Joe actually, Okay, go ahead.

1624
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was wondering if there is any chances

1625
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 1: anybody interested in Lorenzo and uh Kyle Williams, So maybe

1626
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 1: they can get a chance to play in Uh. I

1627
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 1: hope not. I mean I hope they stay and play.

1628
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 1: You want to ship them off to you, Joe, Well,

1629
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:23,640
Speaker 1: I just want to because they're they're at the end

1630
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 1: of their career and you know, hopefully somebody might be

1631
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 1: interested in them. Maybe they could win a Super Bowl. Maybe. Yeah, charity,

1632
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 1: they're running here trying to win here. We're not trying

1633
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 1: to do favors for people. Yeah, you don't want to

1634
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 1: hamstring the best part of your football team right now,

1635
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 1: with the defense the way it's playing. I mean, you've

1636
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 1: got to You've got to try and keep that as

1637
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 1: solid as you can and maybe even maybe even get

1638
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 1: it better somehow someway. But you know, right now, they're

1639
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 1: hoping that Tremaine Edmonds is back on the field next

1640
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 1: weekend or this weekend coming up, and gets out of

1641
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 1: the concussion protocol in time to get on the field.

1642
01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 1: They need him on the field. I don't think you

1643
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:01,680
Speaker 1: want to week in the defense that has played so

1644
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:03,719
Speaker 1: well for the club this thus far in the season.

1645
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 1: I think you want to keep those guys intact. Um. Yeah,

1646
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 1: I don't. And I get the sentiment of, you know,

1647
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:12,680
Speaker 1: they've they've served the organization so well, you'd like to

1648
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 1: see them have a chance of the championship. It's obviously

1649
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be going to be happening this year

1650
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, but that's you know, that's I guess that's

1651
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 1: great for a fan to think that, But there's no

1652
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 1: way you can objectively sit there and expect an NFL

1653
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 1: franchise to to make a decision of that nature. For

1654
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 1: that reason, let's call from Matt in Canan Diego. Hello, Matt,

1655
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:37,679
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Um. I just said, I wanted

1656
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:43,640
Speaker 1: to ask you guys about um the block Benjamin had mccordy,

1657
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 1: um penalty. I get that he was defenseless, but he

1658
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 1: was running towards he had like an mccordy had an angle. Yep,

1659
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 1: towards a sideline on I think it was McCoy. Um,

1660
01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 1: what else is Benjamin really supposed to do? Yeah, it's illegal.

1661
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 1: It's totally illegal. It's not a bad call. You can't block.

1662
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 1: You can't block a defender running back towards your own

1663
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 1: goal line. It's illegal, and it's been illegal for quite

1664
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:16,760
Speaker 1: a long time. Calvin Benjamin was running towards the goal line,

1665
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 1: behind the line of screams behind the offense, and you

1666
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 1: what he's supposed to do is not lay the guy out,

1667
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 1: but stand in front of him and shield him. You

1668
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:28,639
Speaker 1: can't lay him out like that and get a blindside block.

1669
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:31,879
Speaker 1: It's appeal. It's called a peel back block, and it's illegal,

1670
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 1: and it has been for a while. And listen, I

1671
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 1: used to do that every chance I got. I used

1672
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 1: to lay guys out like that. It was It's an

1673
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:42,680
Speaker 1: easy freeway to set a tone physically and to keep

1674
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 1: got defenders. And after you've been you know it's a

1675
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 1: rules changed since you played. Yeah it's been Yeah, well

1676
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 1: I've been out for twenty one years, so yeah, it's

1677
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 1: been a rules change for at least half a dozen years.

1678
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 1: The peel backblock is illegal, and that's what Benjamin did.

1679
01:24:57,160 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 1: If he would have just gotten in and not if

1680
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have looked so bad as it did. If

1681
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 1: you'd have just shield and stepped in between mccordy and

1682
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:08,679
Speaker 1: Shady instead of trying to lay him out, they would

1683
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 1: have let that go. But that's what if. That's what

1684
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 1: the offensive players required to do. It was a penalty.

1685
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 1: Our Twitter question best hope for the Bills offense in

1686
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 1: the second half of the season from the tweet sheet

1687
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:24,720
Speaker 1: Anthony Domanico. He's said, I like the way he starts here,

1688
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 1: he writes, I mean this sincerely. There is nothing they

1689
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 1: can do this season. I just need to write it

1690
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 1: out and add as many weapons as possible in the

1691
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 1: off season. I don't know. That's so sad, Anthony, Yeah,

1692
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 1: you might be right. It's just sad to consider that.

1693
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 1: I like this one from Thomas Derlock better. Other not

1694
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 1: much hope with the limited practice time and understanding of

1695
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,640
Speaker 1: the playbook a new player would have any additions this

1696
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:52,679
Speaker 1: year or more towards next season. Alan needs to return

1697
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 1: and the season must be about his development. And I

1698
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 1: liked that too, and I agree I and I and

1699
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's gonna come in and knock it

1700
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 1: out of the park. But let's let's face it. I mean,

1701
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 1: everybody's very enamored and for good reason with Patrick Mahomes.

1702
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 1: A lot of people loved him coming out last year.

1703
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 1: Not everybody was sold on him. Obviously, the Bills were

1704
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 1: not sold on how good a quarterback Patrick Mahomes was

1705
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:17,720
Speaker 1: going to be. He didn't play at all last year

1706
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:19,959
Speaker 1: until the last game of the season in a meaningless

1707
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 1: game getting into the playoffs for the Kansas City Chiefs.

1708
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 1: And now he's on and I say on pace because

1709
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 1: there's some statistics that'll tell you if he keeps it

1710
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 1: up like he's doing, he's gonna win the MVP this year. Now,

1711
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 1: I mean he's in the conversation right now. He sat

1712
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 1: all last year. Josh Allen is not gonna sit if

1713
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:41,479
Speaker 1: he's healthy this season for the Buffalo Bills. That guy

1714
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 1: has plugged back into the offense. Hopefully that will pay

1715
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 1: dividends in the future. But for right now, I want

1716
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 1: to see the guy get better. I want to see

1717
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:51,680
Speaker 1: what he's been doing since he got hurt the last

1718
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, as he's been grinding in

1719
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 1: a way, as he's been studying film as he's been

1720
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 1: trying to get better, he's been learning the playbook. I

1721
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 1: want to see the guy learn a little bit. It's

1722
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:01,600
Speaker 1: the almost the perfect scenario in this way. If he

1723
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 1: comes back one hundred percent healthy because he got a

1724
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 1: chance to start and get and it's like wow, I

1725
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 1: didn't realize we're gonna be this fast, or he's like wow,

1726
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:09,720
Speaker 1: I wish I could have done this. I wish you

1727
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 1: could have done that. Look at my look at myself

1728
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 1: on film, and then sit back and watch Derek Anderson

1729
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 1: come in and watch a guy who's a little bit

1730
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 1: calmer back there a little and get the ball comes

1731
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 1: out on time. Look at the windows that Derek Anderson

1732
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 1: sees and see him completing some balls, and then come

1733
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 1: back in and give it another try late in the season.

1734
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:30,759
Speaker 1: I think it's a perfect scenario for Josh Allen his development.

1735
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 1: But he's got to take advantage of it, you know.

1736
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 1: I want to see the guy get better too. I

1737
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 1: want to see him get back in. We don't know

1738
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 1: when it'll be. Hey, Bills, fans don't yet. You can

1739
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 1: be the MVP of your home gate with tostitos. Just

1740
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 1: tweet Freedo Lay contest tell us how you game day

1741
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:50,640
Speaker 1: and include the hashtag Bills Tostitos Sweepstakes. Enter for your

1742
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 1: chance to win a Buffalo Bills VIP experience. Steve and

1743
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:55,719
Speaker 1: I back with more. One goes live from One Bill's

1744
01:27:55,800 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 1: Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to

1745
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 1: One Day's Wife, John Murphy, Steve task Or hanging in

1746
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 1: there the day after a tough lots. It is a

1747
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 1: beautiful day in Archer Park. I wish it was this

1748
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 1: nice yesterday. It was a great night last night. I

1749
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 1: mean we talked about the therm and stuff, but just

1750
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 1: the weather got good right before kickoff, and it is.

1751
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 1: If you're watching the the MSG fee you can see

1752
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 1: it's sunny. Blue guys in Archer Park today. Buy now.

1753
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:36,599
Speaker 1: See as I mentioned yesterday, they I don't know if

1754
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 1: you can hear that they're doing construction here at the

1755
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 1: stadium and it is right next to our studio, I

1756
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 1: mean like behind the wall right now, right and now

1757
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 1: they're like they're like stacking bricks on the ceiling. It

1758
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 1: sounds or dropping bricks on the ceiling. I don't know

1759
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 1: if you can hear it over the airway. I guess

1760
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 1: you probably cannot, but it's it's like a lightning bolt

1761
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 1: every two seconds. I'm in there. So anyway, what were

1762
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 1: we talking about? Just how nice the weather was? Right,

1763
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:06,880
Speaker 1: the discerning viewer that I mentioned yesterday, who would have

1764
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 1: noticed it was a game day because all the benches

1765
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 1: and all the stuff is now if you saw it today,

1766
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 1: it's completely empty. Right, it's a it's an open field.

1767
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 1: You watched some of the game this morning. I did

1768
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 1: as well before he came in. And I know it's

1769
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:22,759
Speaker 1: a forty five year old venue, you know, newer a Field,

1770
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 1: formerly rich Stadium, formerly Raffles and Stadium. It looked great

1771
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 1: on TV last night and Peter King mentioned it right.

1772
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 1: First words out of Peter King's mouth today was where

1773
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:33,720
Speaker 1: the NFL's got to get a Monday night game in

1774
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:36,679
Speaker 1: Orchard Park every year? Because it was it was a spectacle.

1775
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 1: You know how sometimes you turn on Monday night football

1776
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:42,560
Speaker 1: and you're like, huh okay Tampa and Jacksonville. Okay, no, no,

1777
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 1: you're flipping through channels. Last night, you get the ESPN,

1778
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:48,719
Speaker 1: you get the shot of those fans that that's seen.

1779
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:51,799
Speaker 1: The color, I mean, yeah, it's something I think is elemental,

1780
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:53,800
Speaker 1: is just the color of what it looked like on

1781
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 1: your TV last night. You could not turn away last night.

1782
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 1: In fact, Steve, what did I do with it? Ratings? Oh,

1783
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:01,720
Speaker 1: ESPN is out with the ratings from last night rating

1784
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:04,799
Speaker 1: the Bills road victory over the Bill or the Patriots

1785
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 1: road victory over the Bills, a seven point nine overnight

1786
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 1: rating accorded in Nielsen, an increase of ten percent over

1787
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 1: last year when the Broncos and Chiefs played on the

1788
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 1: Monday night Football same week, second best year over year

1789
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 1: increase of this season the peak ten thirty to ten

1790
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 1: forty five and eight point nine ratings, so that's nationally

1791
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:26,599
Speaker 1: a ten percent increased nationally in ratings. In New England,

1792
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 1: the game delivered a nine point eight rating on ESPN,

1793
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 1: a six point two rating on the ABC affiliate, and

1794
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:36,519
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, the game delivered a ten point five rating

1795
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 1: on ESPN, a higher rating than in Boston, and a

1796
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 1: thirty point five rating on Channel seven in Buffalo. For

1797
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 1: combined forty one rating, a higher rating in Buffalo than

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01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:48,679
Speaker 1: it was in Boston. Forty one rating in Buffalo, thirty

1799
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 1: seven point four in the Boston market. Top meter markets Providence,

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01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 1: New Orleans, Hartford, Kansas City, Norfolk, Washington ten percent increased

1801
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 1: nationally in ratings. I'm telling you, that's how good it

1802
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 1: looked last night. It really great. And it was when

1803
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 1: we were up in the high seats indoors, because you know,

1804
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 1: we were all special so at one time we used

1805
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 1: to special. So when we got down on the field,

1806
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 1: we came down with about and about literally about ten

1807
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:16,439
Speaker 1: minutes to go in the second quarter, and we walked

1808
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 1: out on the field for that. Even the guys who

1809
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 1: all those guys that I was with, all that we'd

1810
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 1: all been down there for a game. You know, we've

1811
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 1: all spent we've all spent time and sell out crowds

1812
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:29,519
Speaker 1: down there play. And when when you got down there,

1813
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 1: mean the hair on the back of your neck just

1814
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 1: stood up. I mean it was just it's you forget

1815
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 1: how amazing that stadium is. And they turned the lights out,

1816
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 1: and everybody turned their phone lights on, and the like

1817
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 1: you said, the heating, the club seat heating lit the

1818
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:50,400
Speaker 1: underneath of the of the upper decks. It was spectacular.

1819
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean it looked like and it looked like a show.

1820
01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 1: It was really wild. And and of course the electricity

1821
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 1: and the fans were, you know, off their Rocker last night.

1822
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:01,640
Speaker 1: So it was it was like it was unbelievable. It

1823
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:03,560
Speaker 1: was I was really I gotta tell you, I was

1824
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 1: really proud of the stadium, the fans, of the city. Everything.

1825
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 1: It was. It was like, Wow, this is you know,

1826
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 1: what it's supposed to be like. And I know the

1827
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:12,320
Speaker 1: guys on the TV were loving it. Except for the

1828
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:14,720
Speaker 1: lack of some offensive touchdown, it would have been nice,

1829
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 1: you know game, you know, but whatever, whatever. Fred Jackson's

1830
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:22,800
Speaker 1: waiting to join us in the next hour, coming back

1831
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:25,639
Speaker 1: for that. Steve Tasker, John Murphy. One Bill's Live presented

1832
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 1: by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo

1833
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:44,080
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio, Buffalo Bill's Radio Network Sports date. The update

1834
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:46,280
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. It is two hours away from

1835
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:48,880
Speaker 1: the NFL trade deadline. Who knows that the Bills will

1836
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 1: get involved in anything? Lashawn McCoy said last night he

1837
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 1: does not know if he'll be traded. It seems unlikely,

1838
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 1: doesn't it. But McCoy, you said, a rough season so far. Again,

1839
01:32:57,439 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 1: a rough night last night. Just thirteen yards and twelve

1840
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:02,599
Speaker 1: carries in the twenty five to six loss on Monday

1841
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:05,679
Speaker 1: Night Football to the New England Patriots. McCoy got twelve

1842
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:07,240
Speaker 1: yards on his first carry, but the rest of the

1843
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 1: way he got one yard on eleven carries. McCoy say

1844
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:13,559
Speaker 1: doesn't know if he will be traded. No real trades yet.

1845
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 1: In the NFL report for Me and rappaport that the

1846
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 1: Texans are closing in on the deal for Bronco's wide

1847
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:20,640
Speaker 1: receiver to marry As Thomas in exchange for a mid

1848
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:23,560
Speaker 1: round draft pick. Bills had wide receiver Torell Prior in

1849
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:26,640
Speaker 1: for a visit yesterday. Prior twenty nine years old, just

1850
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 1: released by the Jets earlier this month with a groin injury,

1851
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 1: is healthy now and probably looking to make a return

1852
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 1: to the field. It may come with the Bills. ESPN

1853
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:36,720
Speaker 1: reported that the Bills had offered a contract, but there's

1854
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:40,360
Speaker 1: no confirmation on that. Prior seven years in the NFL

1855
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 1: one under thirteen catches for fifteen hundred yards six games

1856
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:47,360
Speaker 1: this season, with a total of fourteen fourteen catches so

1857
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 1: far this year. The Bills last night, at halftime of

1858
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 1: their loss to the Patriots, celebrated the retirement the official

1859
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 1: retirement of Thurman Thomas, number thirty four. It happened in halftime.

1860
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:58,599
Speaker 1: He becomes the third player in history to receive the honor.

1861
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:01,240
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly's number twelve retired in two thousand and one

1862
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:04,839
Speaker 1: and Bruce Smith's number seventy eight retired in two sixteen.

1863
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 1: Around the NFL Round's owner of Jimmy Haslem, says the

1864
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:10,639
Speaker 1: firing of coach Hugh Jackson an offensive coordinator Tod Hailey

1865
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:12,559
Speaker 1: does not mean the team is gimming up on the season.

1866
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:14,840
Speaker 1: They said their focus is on the final league games

1867
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 1: and trying to help new head coach interim coach Greg

1868
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:19,080
Speaker 1: Williams win as many of those games as he can.

1869
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:22,719
Speaker 1: Giants coach Pat Shermer will not fully commit to Eli

1870
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 1: Manning as his starting quarterback. They'll play again for another

1871
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 1: couple of weeks when they go to San Francisco after

1872
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:29,640
Speaker 1: a bye week. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are gonna go

1873
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 1: with Ryan Fitzpatrick at quarterback against Carolina. That announcement came

1874
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:36,320
Speaker 1: yesterday from Dirk Cutter. They bench quarterback Jamis Winston on

1875
01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:39,639
Speaker 1: Sunday against Cincinnati, and the Savers at home tonight against

1876
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:42,040
Speaker 1: Calgary seven o'clock face off. That's the update from One

1877
01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:44,080
Speaker 1: Bills Drive at is our three We go here until

1878
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:46,960
Speaker 1: three o'clock, John Murphy, Steve Tasker One Bills Line from

1879
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:49,640
Speaker 1: One Bills Drive and on Tuesdays at this time, we

1880
01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:52,120
Speaker 1: always talked with a long time Bill's running back, third

1881
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:54,679
Speaker 1: leading rusher in Buffalo Bill's history, and the co host

1882
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:58,679
Speaker 1: of Bills Tonight Sunday Nights eleven thirty on the MSG Network,

1883
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 1: Fred Jackson, who hosts that show along with Mike Carolina.

1884
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 1: Fred Jackson design the line with us. Hi, Fred, it's

1885
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 1: John Raphy and Steve task You're in Buffalo. Thanks for

1886
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 1: joining us. Oh yeah, thanks for having me. Fellas. You

1887
01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:10,120
Speaker 1: were in town over the weekend, right, but you didn't

1888
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:13,519
Speaker 1: stay for the Therman time of celebration or the game. Huh. Yeah,

1889
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 1: I wasn't in town over the weekend, but yesterday was

1890
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:18,599
Speaker 1: actually my wife's birthday, so we had already made plans

1891
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 1: in advance and it just didn't line up for us

1892
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:22,519
Speaker 1: to be out there and hang out with then. Well,

1893
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 1: happy birthday to your wife. That's that's awesome. Look at

1894
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 1: you being a nice guy, Hey, happy wife, happy life.

1895
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:33,000
Speaker 1: How it is? What are your opinions about the game,

1896
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:35,800
Speaker 1: particularly the Bill's offense. Obviously the defense is playing well

1897
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 1: enough to give him a chance, but the offense can't

1898
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,439
Speaker 1: seem to get it together. Yeah, I mean, that's just said.

1899
01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 1: Anybody who watches a game sees that the defense is

1900
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 1: playing well enough to win a football game. They're just

1901
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 1: not putting up for enough points and having enough offensive

1902
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:51,600
Speaker 1: you know, explosions to hang around and be able to

1903
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:52,840
Speaker 1: win the game at the end of the game. So

1904
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:55,360
Speaker 1: it's something they gotta figure out. You can see that

1905
01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 1: they're obviously throwing in some a bunch of new recals

1906
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:00,320
Speaker 1: with the wildcat and stuff like that last night. So

1907
01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 1: hopefully they can get something figured out and get it

1908
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 1: turned around, because you know, the season slowly slipping away.

1909
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:09,599
Speaker 1: If what do you think those new wrinkles that wildcat

1910
01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:12,640
Speaker 1: does to a defense from your experience playing not too

1911
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 1: long ago, what does it do when a defense goes

1912
01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:17,120
Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage expecting to see one thing

1913
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:20,920
Speaker 1: and see something radically different. Well, it can. It can

1914
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:23,160
Speaker 1: create mismatches. I think one of the things that you're

1915
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:25,760
Speaker 1: trying to do is create those. And if you have

1916
01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 1: two running backs on the field, you got to figure

1917
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:29,400
Speaker 1: out do you want to play that as as a

1918
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:31,600
Speaker 1: base defense with two linebackers in there, or do you

1919
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:33,800
Speaker 1: want to play that with a nickel defense and with

1920
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:36,800
Speaker 1: both Chris Ivory and Shady being able to run the

1921
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:39,720
Speaker 1: ball well and run routes out of the backfield. If

1922
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 1: you get those two lined up on a linebacker, it

1923
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:44,679
Speaker 1: can be a mitch match mismatch in the past game,

1924
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:46,880
Speaker 1: and I think that's something that the Bills have to

1925
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:48,680
Speaker 1: try and take care of or take advantage of the

1926
01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:51,320
Speaker 1: next time they get on the field. Did you did

1927
01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:54,320
Speaker 1: you what did you think about the Wildcats starting out

1928
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:56,200
Speaker 1: and giving it that many snaps that much early in

1929
01:36:56,240 --> 01:36:59,000
Speaker 1: the game. I mean, how long does that you know?

1930
01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:01,360
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you look at that with the

1931
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:03,760
Speaker 1: creativity that kind of thing, and what was really to

1932
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:07,719
Speaker 1: be gained by that? Well, I think there was something

1933
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 1: that they saw in film and obviously through the week

1934
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 1: that they felt like if they got in walk out,

1935
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:16,320
Speaker 1: that they can put the Patriots in a mismatching. They

1936
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 1: wanted to go to it earlier. I think they there

1937
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:22,120
Speaker 1: were some players there to be had. Obviously, with Shady's

1938
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:25,960
Speaker 1: first carry going for twelve yards, they liked something that

1939
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:28,800
Speaker 1: they saw. I think they just needed to do a

1940
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:31,959
Speaker 1: little bit more passing out of that whole Wildcat situation,

1941
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:36,920
Speaker 1: using utilizing both those backs on linebackers, and I think

1942
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:39,040
Speaker 1: that would have gave them given them a better chance

1943
01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:41,680
Speaker 1: to score more points. If fred let me ask you

1944
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:44,519
Speaker 1: about Shady just what you've seen from him. He expressed

1945
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:47,760
Speaker 1: a lot of disappointment last night in the locker room

1946
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:49,800
Speaker 1: afterwards about the way his first half of the season

1947
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:51,720
Speaker 1: has gone. He's been injured a couple of times, but

1948
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:54,080
Speaker 1: beyond that, even when he's on the field healthy, just

1949
01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:56,639
Speaker 1: not real productive. Do you see a problem up front

1950
01:37:56,680 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 1: in front of him with the offensive line or maybe

1951
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:01,360
Speaker 1: a different way that McCoy might be running this year.

1952
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:05,120
Speaker 1: What do you see? Well? Uh, one thing that you

1953
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:07,320
Speaker 1: you You never want to tell a running back where

1954
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:09,880
Speaker 1: to see, what holes you're seeing and things like that,

1955
01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:12,800
Speaker 1: or where the run. But there was a few plays

1956
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 1: last night that I saw that um, you know, he

1957
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:17,599
Speaker 1: was looking for the big play, and I think if

1958
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:20,719
Speaker 1: he takes those you know, three four or five yards,

1959
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:25,320
Speaker 1: it puts them in better management of their downs instead

1960
01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:28,519
Speaker 1: of trying to go for twenty every time. But again,

1961
01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 1: like I said, he's out there on the field and

1962
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:32,479
Speaker 1: he's seeing what he's seeing. It's easy for me to

1963
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:35,000
Speaker 1: set back, you know, up in the stands or on

1964
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:37,000
Speaker 1: a TV monitor and say, hey, he should have hit

1965
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:39,719
Speaker 1: right there. When you're out there and it's three hundred

1966
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 1: pounds lineman flying at you, you know, you get completely

1967
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:44,519
Speaker 1: different perspectives. And if you're sitting up watching it on

1968
01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 1: a TV TV screens, Yeah, that's really good point. It's

1969
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:49,560
Speaker 1: really what we talked about it Markkelso on in the

1970
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:52,879
Speaker 1: radio broadcast last night about how how Ivory just explodes

1971
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:55,560
Speaker 1: Chris Ivory just explodes through the whole where it's with

1972
01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:58,080
Speaker 1: McCoy and I think I mentioned this to Kelso last night.

1973
01:38:58,280 --> 01:38:59,560
Speaker 1: You get the sense that he wants to hit a

1974
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:01,559
Speaker 1: home run every time, right, He's not contact to take

1975
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:04,600
Speaker 1: a singular a double. Yeah, And I think that's the

1976
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:06,439
Speaker 1: difference between the two right now and the schemes that

1977
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 1: they're running. It looks like if it's built more towards

1978
01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:12,200
Speaker 1: towards Ivory, who you know, he's a put his foot

1979
01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:15,080
Speaker 1: in the ground guy and getting north. And that's the

1980
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:17,519
Speaker 1: reason I think he's having more success than Shady is

1981
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:19,880
Speaker 1: right now is because of the schemes that they're running,

1982
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:22,880
Speaker 1: they're built more towards what Ivory does and what he's

1983
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:25,960
Speaker 1: better at doing. Frey I want to ask you also

1984
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:29,360
Speaker 1: about your boy Ryan Fitzpatrick. Fitzmagic is back in the

1985
01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 1: saddle in Tampa Bay, and this time it looks like

1986
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:35,240
Speaker 1: it might be an extended stay. Yeah, it's always I mean,

1987
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:38,880
Speaker 1: the things that he's doing, it's obvious. You know, people

1988
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:40,960
Speaker 1: are calling it fitz Magic for a reason because he's

1989
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:43,439
Speaker 1: he's leading his team. He's giving them opportunities to winning

1990
01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:46,160
Speaker 1: football games, you know, making plays. I tell you what

1991
01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:49,040
Speaker 1: the play he made to score a two point conversion

1992
01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 1: where he got Skinny to jump out of the way

1993
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:54,720
Speaker 1: of a defensive lineman. It didn't make that pass. It's

1994
01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:56,560
Speaker 1: something fun to watch. And I think right now he

1995
01:39:56,760 --> 01:39:59,040
Speaker 1: is obviously the best, you know chance. He gives them

1996
01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:01,439
Speaker 1: the best chance to win ball games. The whole situation

1997
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:04,479
Speaker 1: down there was almost set up for Fits to succeed, right,

1998
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:07,680
Speaker 1: especially once Jameis Winston had that suspension to serve. I mean,

1999
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:09,160
Speaker 1: you could almost predict it. This is the way he

2000
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:11,760
Speaker 1: was going to play out right, you know, I think

2001
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 1: anybody that's ever been around Fits and and figured that

2002
01:40:15,400 --> 01:40:17,040
Speaker 1: he was going to get to start for the first three,

2003
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:19,760
Speaker 1: three or four games, uh knew that it was a

2004
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:22,280
Speaker 1: situation he was going to take advantage of and a

2005
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:24,400
Speaker 1: situation that you know he was going to make the

2006
01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 1: best of. Um, I'll tell you what he was, without

2007
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:29,600
Speaker 1: a doubt, my favorite, you know quarterback to play with

2008
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:31,679
Speaker 1: all of my one of my all time favorite teammates.

2009
01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:34,120
Speaker 1: And I love what he's doing right now. And I

2010
01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:36,040
Speaker 1: think he's gonna continue to just go out there and

2011
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:38,280
Speaker 1: do what he does and try to make plays up

2012
01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:41,080
Speaker 1: as team win well for things that are turning turning

2013
01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:44,439
Speaker 1: sunshine for Ryan Fitzpatrick, it's it's kind of doom and

2014
01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:46,720
Speaker 1: gloom for another friend of yours. Marshawn Lynch got put

2015
01:40:46,760 --> 01:40:49,080
Speaker 1: on IR with his growing injury. Have you spoken to

2016
01:40:49,240 --> 01:40:52,040
Speaker 1: him and what's his what's his mindset like now that

2017
01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:54,680
Speaker 1: I mean at his age and his long in the

2018
01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:57,320
Speaker 1: tooth and now he's on IR. What's next? Roar Shawn?

2019
01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:00,679
Speaker 1: You know, uh, marshaw and has one of those guys.

2020
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:02,760
Speaker 1: He's gonna do what he feels is you know, best

2021
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 1: for him. Um. You know in talking to him though

2022
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:07,160
Speaker 1: right now, he's still playing to play. You know, he

2023
01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:10,080
Speaker 1: wants to get he's getting he's having a surgery done now,

2024
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 1: you know, and he wants to even when it was

2025
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 1: the same growing injury. I think when when he was

2026
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:17,120
Speaker 1: in Seattle, you know, he wanted to get that taken

2027
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:19,960
Speaker 1: care of and you know, get back out there to

2028
01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:23,479
Speaker 1: help his teammates. My understanding is that's the case. But

2029
01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:26,519
Speaker 1: we know Marshawn is gonna do what Marshawn does, just

2030
01:41:26,680 --> 01:41:30,160
Speaker 1: like he you know, retired in the middle of the

2031
01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:33,559
Speaker 1: Super Bowl last time. So it'll be interesting to see

2032
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:36,120
Speaker 1: what he does. And you know he at the end

2033
01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:37,599
Speaker 1: of the day, he's the only one that can make

2034
01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:39,800
Speaker 1: that determination. Here's a topic you know a lot about

2035
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:42,679
Speaker 1: mars Shawn is thirty two. Does he still and he's

2036
01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:45,080
Speaker 1: got some mileage? I mean, he's got some pounding on

2037
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:47,519
Speaker 1: his body. Is there's something left in the tank? You

2038
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:50,519
Speaker 1: think at age thirty two, with all the hits he's taken, Oh,

2039
01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:52,840
Speaker 1: I believe. So, you know, I think Marshawn is a

2040
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:54,880
Speaker 1: guy that you know, if he didn't feel like he

2041
01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:56,800
Speaker 1: could be out there competing, he wouldn't be out there,

2042
01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 1: you know. And talking to Marshawn, you know he loves

2043
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:03,439
Speaker 1: to play football, but it's not the defining person. It

2044
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:05,639
Speaker 1: doesn't define him as a person. So to be out

2045
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:08,559
Speaker 1: there is something, Uh, he wants to be out there,

2046
01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 1: and if he didn't want to be out there and

2047
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:13,040
Speaker 1: he couldn't contribute, he wouldn't be out there. And I

2048
01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:16,040
Speaker 1: think that when when this is all said and done, uh,

2049
01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 1: and he's back on the field, it's because he wants

2050
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:19,719
Speaker 1: to be there and he knows he can still compete

2051
01:42:19,720 --> 01:42:21,960
Speaker 1: at a high level. Freddie, we had an event here

2052
01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 1: last night on Monday Night Football in halftime where Thurman

2053
01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:27,000
Speaker 1: Thomas got his jersey retired. If he's spoken to Thurman

2054
01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:29,439
Speaker 1: or what are your thoughts about, you know, a legendary

2055
01:42:29,479 --> 01:42:32,280
Speaker 1: player like that having that honor bestowed on him. Yeah.

2056
01:42:32,360 --> 01:42:34,120
Speaker 1: I did get to talk to Thurm. You know, he's

2057
01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:36,320
Speaker 1: always been like a big brother to me. And when

2058
01:42:36,360 --> 01:42:38,519
Speaker 1: I got to Buffalo, he was one of the first

2059
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 1: people to you know, come to me and you know,

2060
01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:41,680
Speaker 1: give me a big hug and welcome me to the

2061
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 1: city of Buffalo. So uh, it's huge for a guy

2062
01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:46,200
Speaker 1: like that to be honored, you know, and it's a

2063
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:48,519
Speaker 1: no bringer. You know, he's the guy that did so

2064
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:51,240
Speaker 1: much for the city of Buffalo, so much for the team, uh,

2065
01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:54,240
Speaker 1: the organization. Uh. And I you know what, I'm just

2066
01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:56,439
Speaker 1: happy to see that he was honored like that. Nobody

2067
01:42:56,479 --> 01:42:58,200
Speaker 1: should wear a thirty four again. You know, it's a

2068
01:42:58,320 --> 01:43:01,080
Speaker 1: it's a When you see thirty for in the Buffalo Bills,

2069
01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:04,559
Speaker 1: it should be Thurman Thomas. And that's it. And I'm

2070
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:06,719
Speaker 1: happy that it was able to his family was able

2071
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:08,040
Speaker 1: to be there and be a part of it. There

2072
01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:10,240
Speaker 1: are so many people in town to support him because

2073
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:12,240
Speaker 1: you know, that's just the type of guy he is.

2074
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:15,720
Speaker 1: And he was loved by everybody, loved by the city

2075
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:18,960
Speaker 1: of Buffalo, and I think that was one of the reasons,

2076
01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:21,320
Speaker 1: you know, so many people showed him so much support. Fred,

2077
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:24,280
Speaker 1: last question for you, and we've been pulling our listeners

2078
01:43:24,320 --> 01:43:27,160
Speaker 1: and viewers today on this question. What's the best hope

2079
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:29,880
Speaker 1: for any kind of resurgence by the Buffalo offense and

2080
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:31,679
Speaker 1: the final league games this year? Is it the return

2081
01:43:31,720 --> 01:43:34,000
Speaker 1: of Josh Allen? Is it a return to for him

2082
01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:36,840
Speaker 1: by Lashawn McCoy? Could it be a trade they would

2083
01:43:36,840 --> 01:43:38,680
Speaker 1: make in the next hour and forty five minutes? I mean,

2084
01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:41,360
Speaker 1: what do you We're having trouble finding hope and this

2085
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:43,920
Speaker 1: offense getting getting much better this year. Where would you

2086
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:46,920
Speaker 1: send us? Whereould your point us? Which direction? Well, if

2087
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:49,080
Speaker 1: it was me and just from looking at it. I

2088
01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:52,760
Speaker 1: think quarterbacks and a quarterbacks best friend as well as

2089
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:55,520
Speaker 1: a running backs best friend, it's a receiver that defenses

2090
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:57,720
Speaker 1: are scared of, you know. I think you get one

2091
01:43:57,760 --> 01:43:59,519
Speaker 1: of those guys. You bring in, one of those guys

2092
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:03,120
Speaker 1: that can blow the roof off of a defense. You know.

2093
01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:05,519
Speaker 1: I know Josh Allen is gonna love having it, and

2094
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:07,639
Speaker 1: I know you know, Shady and all the running backs

2095
01:44:07,680 --> 01:44:09,840
Speaker 1: are gonna love that because that means you gotta keep

2096
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:12,120
Speaker 1: safety back to help them. And I think it helps everybody.

2097
01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 1: So if it was up to me, you know, and

2098
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:16,080
Speaker 1: I was sending in that locker room as an offensive player,

2099
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:18,360
Speaker 1: I would want, you know, a big name receiver that

2100
01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:20,600
Speaker 1: can come in and blow the top off of a

2101
01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:22,559
Speaker 1: defense to help all of us out right, go out

2102
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:26,360
Speaker 1: and find this one, you know what. I'll make some

2103
01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:28,599
Speaker 1: phone calls and see who I can find for Thanks, Fred,

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Speaker 1: good talking with me again. Thanks. I appreciate the fellas.

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Speaker 1: Fred Jackson, longtime Bill's running back, former Bills running back

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Speaker 1: co host of Bills Tonight eleven thirty pm on Sundays

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Speaker 1: on MSG along with Mike Catalana. It's our Twitter poll

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Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean we're trying to find some hope,

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Speaker 1: and we want to know from you on Twitter, what

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01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:47,679
Speaker 1: do you think what's the best hope for the Bills

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Speaker 1: offense in the second half of the season. On Twitter,

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Speaker 1: we've had more than twelve hundred votes in so far.

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Speaker 1: Sixty two percent of you to say the best hope

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Speaker 1: is for Josh Allen to come back better, come back,

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Speaker 1: return to the lineup better than he was before he

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01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:03,280
Speaker 1: got injured. Eighteen percent of you say, get some help

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01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 1: in the trade market with the trade deadline coming up

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Speaker 1: at four o'clock at a hour forty five minutes away.

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Speaker 1: Six percent of you say, and that's all just a

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01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:12,960
Speaker 1: return to form for LaShaun McCoy. I would think they'd

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01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:15,479
Speaker 1: be higher than that fourteen percent of something else in

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Speaker 1: might give us a call, Well discuss eight oh three

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Speaker 1: five fifty or twenty three one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. Well, we knew it was going

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Speaker 1: to happen, and now that we're closing in on the

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Speaker 1: deadline forty five minutes away from the actually an hour

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Speaker 1: and forty five minutes away from the trade deadline, there's

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Speaker 1: been a trade that's happened in the National Football has

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01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:34,640
Speaker 1: been reported that the Houston Texans have traded for the

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01:45:34,720 --> 01:45:38,080
Speaker 1: Broncos wide receiver da Marius Thomas. The Broncos received the

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01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:41,479
Speaker 1: Texans fourth round pick in return, and then in addition

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Speaker 1: to Damarius Thomas and the fourth round pick, the teams

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Speaker 1: will exchange seventh round picks. And also the Eagles have

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01:45:49,360 --> 01:45:53,679
Speaker 1: acquired Golden Tate from the Lions. Golden Tate, starting wide

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01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:56,320
Speaker 1: receiver for the Lions, has been there for a handful

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01:45:56,320 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 1: of years. After he came over from Seattle. He goes

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Speaker 1: to Philadelphia's Billy is trying to extend that window by

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01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:04,919
Speaker 1: which they can win and maybe repeat as world champions.

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Speaker 1: So Golden Tate is now a Lion and Damarius Thomas

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Speaker 1: is now a Texan and Demarius Thomas is gonna play

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Speaker 1: against his old team on Sunday as Denver is home

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Speaker 1: against Houston. Damarrius Thomas had some good years for the

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01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:20,400
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. He's thirty years old, is really his productions

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01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:23,280
Speaker 1: tailed off in the last few years, coinciding with the

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Speaker 1: tailoff of the quarterback play at Denver. This year, da

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Speaker 1: Marius Thomas thirty six catches, four hundred two yards three touchdowns.

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01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:33,040
Speaker 1: A five time Pro Bowl selection, he knew he was

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Speaker 1: going to be traded. He said a couple of days

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01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:37,240
Speaker 1: ago fifty fifty odds that he'd be dealt away. And

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01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:39,960
Speaker 1: the Broncos feel like they have Courtland Sutton ready to

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01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:43,200
Speaker 1: get even more opportunities. A rookie seventy eight yards on

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01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:47,200
Speaker 1: three catches last week against the Chiefs. Contractually, Demarius Thomas

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01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:49,840
Speaker 1: one year remaining on his contract, set to have a

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01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:52,800
Speaker 1: cap hit of seventeen point five million dollars. From the

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Speaker 1: Texans perspective, Steve looked, they're in a division where they're

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01:46:57,040 --> 01:46:58,800
Speaker 1: on a roll now, right, five straight wins. They have

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01:46:58,840 --> 01:47:01,439
Speaker 1: a chance to win the South, and they might think

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01:47:01,720 --> 01:47:04,719
Speaker 1: one more weapon to put alongside the other good weapons

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Speaker 1: they have in the passing game might put them over

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01:47:06,320 --> 01:47:08,280
Speaker 1: the top. And they lost Will Fuller for the season.

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Speaker 1: Right Listen, they're way out in front of the of

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01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:13,360
Speaker 1: the AFC South. They're five and three. Everybody else is

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01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:15,160
Speaker 1: three and four, three and five. So they've got a

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Speaker 1: two game lead in that division. They want to extend

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Speaker 1: it and want to make sure they keep it there.

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01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:21,040
Speaker 1: And they're probably you know, they're trying to get better.

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01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:22,680
Speaker 1: They want to win now. I mean, this is a

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01:47:22,760 --> 01:47:25,800
Speaker 1: window they've got that they're going to take advantage of,

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Speaker 1: and certainly Damarius Thomas is a guy who could help

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01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:31,960
Speaker 1: them in some respects. He's a big, rangey wide out.

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01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:34,639
Speaker 1: He's you know, he's got that size thing going. Put

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Speaker 1: him on the other side of DeAndre Hopkins and all

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01:47:37,120 --> 01:47:39,200
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Houston changes a little bit offensively. So

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good move for both those clubs.

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Speaker 1: The fourth round pick Okay, thirty year old wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: I think both clubs can be happy with that, particularly

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Speaker 1: the Broncos as in a season where they're gonna try

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Speaker 1: and get better as well. The Bronchos, you know, they're

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Speaker 1: three and five and they're just, you know, trying to

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01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:01,080
Speaker 1: kind of tread and water really, So I think that's

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01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:02,920
Speaker 1: I think it's a good moved by both clubs. The

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01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:07,400
Speaker 1: Lions ship off Golden Tate, another thirty year old wide receiver.

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01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:11,080
Speaker 1: He's had two straight seasons with over a thousand resting yards.

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01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:14,080
Speaker 1: This year take forty four catches, five hundred and seventeen

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Speaker 1: yards and three touchdowns. He'll be an undrestricted free agent

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01:48:17,120 --> 01:48:19,920
Speaker 1: after the year. Eagles four and fourth, second place behind

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01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:23,920
Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins in the NFC East, and Golden Tate

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01:48:23,960 --> 01:48:27,240
Speaker 1: tweeted out, it's been real Detroit. I'll love you forever, Philly, Philly,

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01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:30,720
Speaker 1: let's get it, Okay. Golden Tate had that to say

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Speaker 1: about the trade, and look, he's going to a Philadelphia

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01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 1: team that has picked up it's play in recent weeks,

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Speaker 1: and I would think would have a real chance. I

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01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:41,080
Speaker 1: know Washington right is in first place in the NFC East. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if Eagles are four and fourth second place, but yeah,

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01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:45,720
Speaker 1: I think the Eagles made themselves better with this move

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01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:47,600
Speaker 1: and they're probably gonna I would think they're gonna go

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Speaker 1: ahead and win that division. I think Golden Tate is

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Speaker 1: a type of receivers. He's a little bit and you'll

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Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about, Murph. He's a little bit

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01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:59,479
Speaker 1: like Hines Ward was. He's a great physical receiver, makes

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Speaker 1: tough catch in traffic. He's not going to be a

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Speaker 1: speed merchant, but he is going to be really good

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01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:07,000
Speaker 1: after the catch. Golden Tate's really good at running with

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Speaker 1: the football after he makes after he gets contact and

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Speaker 1: after he makes the catch. And that's gonna help Philly

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Speaker 1: out a lot. I don't think if they've got a

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Speaker 1: guy on their roster that it has that gift. He's

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Speaker 1: going to be at another dimension of their passing game

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Speaker 1: with his ability to play well with the ball in

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Speaker 1: his hands as a receiver. So those two trades, both

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Speaker 1: involving thirty year old wide receivers. Nothing from the Buffalo Bills.

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01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:31,400
Speaker 1: Trade deadline is less than two hours away, right it's

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Speaker 1: two twenty The trade deadline is an hour and forty

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Speaker 1: minutes away. In the meantime, what can the Bills do?

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Speaker 1: Where's the hope and the offense? After another rough game?

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01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:41,160
Speaker 1: They have not scored a touchdown in two straight games.

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01:49:41,680 --> 01:49:45,360
Speaker 1: Seven total offensive touchdowns in the first eight games this year.

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01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:47,960
Speaker 1: That's incredible. Just reading some of the numbers of Golden

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01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:51,400
Speaker 1: Tate and Damarius Thomas, I'm thinking those guys have that now.

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01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:54,840
Speaker 1: I mean, ourt receivers have nothing remotely close to that

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01:49:55,200 --> 01:49:58,080
Speaker 1: the Bills receivers. What do you think? What's where's the

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01:49:58,120 --> 01:50:00,280
Speaker 1: hope for the Buffalo Bills on offense? If us a

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Speaker 1: call and discuss eighth three five fifty or toll free

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01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:06,200
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty. You've got some more

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01:50:06,200 --> 01:50:08,559
Speaker 1: tweets from the twenty from Temn twenty two, it's all

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01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:10,920
Speaker 1: about the quarterback. You need to see improvement from Alan

2227
01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:12,800
Speaker 1: and signs he's the guy so we can build around.

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01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:14,920
Speaker 1: Day Ball also needs to put these guys in a

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01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:18,600
Speaker 1: better position to succeed. He's given a pass because a

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01:50:18,640 --> 01:50:22,360
Speaker 1: lack of talent. But I see a confused offense, undisciplined penalties,

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01:50:22,360 --> 01:50:25,320
Speaker 1: and no identity, you know, And I think and there's

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01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:27,040
Speaker 1: something to be said from that no identity, a little

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01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:29,000
Speaker 1: bit of confusion out there, that that comes down to

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01:50:29,080 --> 01:50:33,960
Speaker 1: guys who just aren't up to it. You can say

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01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:36,439
Speaker 1: what you want about the coaching at some point that well,

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01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:38,400
Speaker 1: at most point, the players have got to take some

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01:50:38,479 --> 01:50:41,760
Speaker 1: responsibility for the way they're playing. Penalties are all on

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01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:44,960
Speaker 1: the players. You can say, well, it's not a discipline atmosphere, listen,

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01:50:45,240 --> 01:50:47,800
Speaker 1: it's on the players get lined up and don't know

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Speaker 1: the snap count, particularly and particularly pre snap penalties, which

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01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:56,320
Speaker 1: have been a problem at times this year. So getting

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01:50:56,360 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 1: guys we had illegal formation penalties. It's ridiculous. So I

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01:51:00,479 --> 01:51:02,799
Speaker 1: think you can lay that at the feet of the players,

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01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:06,439
Speaker 1: but I get that too. About it's hard. It's hard

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01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:09,960
Speaker 1: to know where how much blame or credit to give

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01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:13,839
Speaker 1: a guy like Brian Dable because you know the receiving

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01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:18,280
Speaker 1: corps is is a work in progress at best. The

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01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:21,320
Speaker 1: offensive line has was a mess to begin the season.

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01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:25,000
Speaker 1: Now it's maybe just stabilized. And because of that, the

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Speaker 1: running you got a quarterback that's been here a month.

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01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:30,200
Speaker 1: You got a lot of issues on the offensive side

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01:51:30,240 --> 01:51:33,240
Speaker 1: of the ball, and it shows so how much I mean,

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01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:35,160
Speaker 1: I don't know how much you expect Brian how many

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01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:38,320
Speaker 1: miracles you expect Brian dable to work under those conditions.

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Speaker 1: And I'm along the same line, I don't know how

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01:51:42,040 --> 01:51:46,400
Speaker 1: much progress Josh Allen can make behind all that. So

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01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:50,160
Speaker 1: it's it's working against the Buffalo Bills offensively on a

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01:51:50,240 --> 01:51:53,320
Speaker 1: number of different levels. Here's a call from Paul in Williamsville.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Paul, you around the air of this. Hey, guys,

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01:51:55,760 --> 01:51:59,360
Speaker 1: great show. I have a question for Steve. Steve, as

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Speaker 1: a former reiver, a couple of times last night, wouldn't

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Speaker 1: mention that the Bills receivers needed to create more space.

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01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:08,600
Speaker 1: How does a receiver give given what the Bills have

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01:52:08,720 --> 01:52:11,680
Speaker 1: in their receiving car, how do they create space? Is

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01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:15,160
Speaker 1: it something physical? Is it technique? Is it the plays

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01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:18,559
Speaker 1: that are designed for them? I'd like to hear your answer, Well,

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01:52:18,600 --> 01:52:20,160
Speaker 1: it can be a lot of things. There's something different

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01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:23,240
Speaker 1: probably on every play. It certainly is route running. Technique

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01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:28,160
Speaker 1: is made, and you use technique to create space. It's

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01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:31,960
Speaker 1: also physical ability and a matchup. There are some corners

2271
01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:36,559
Speaker 1: out there, Tardavious White as one of them. That Stefan

2272
01:52:36,640 --> 01:52:39,639
Speaker 1: Gilmore is another. These guys are good at not giving

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01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:42,960
Speaker 1: you space. You've got to use great technique. You've got

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01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:44,840
Speaker 1: to be explosive in and out of the breaks. And

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01:52:45,320 --> 01:52:47,280
Speaker 1: I've heard this set a lot, and you know, you

2276
01:52:47,320 --> 01:52:49,760
Speaker 1: always hear. And we had Terrell Owens was in town

2277
01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:52,439
Speaker 1: last night and they're chirping about how he's available, and

2278
01:52:52,479 --> 01:52:54,320
Speaker 1: all these all these guys that want to play listen,

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Speaker 1: And I don't care if you can run a four

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01:52:56,479 --> 01:52:59,719
Speaker 1: three forty. That's not what being an NFL receivers about.

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01:53:00,240 --> 01:53:06,439
Speaker 1: It's about creating space. That's the issue. It's not about

2282
01:53:06,439 --> 01:53:09,360
Speaker 1: out running guys all the time. It's about creating space.

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01:53:10,120 --> 01:53:13,280
Speaker 1: And the issue comes at most of these guys that

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01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:16,759
Speaker 1: are really fast. They lose it, not because they get slow,

2285
01:53:17,200 --> 01:53:20,400
Speaker 1: but because they can't stop hard and explode in a

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01:53:20,479 --> 01:53:23,160
Speaker 1: different direction. All of a sudden their legs give out.

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01:53:23,200 --> 01:53:26,280
Speaker 1: It gets they get injured. Their lower legs and their

2288
01:53:26,320 --> 01:53:28,599
Speaker 1: feet and ankles are under a lot of pressure. That's

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01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:31,320
Speaker 1: the first thing that gets sore with receivers during training

2290
01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:34,280
Speaker 1: camp when they start really running routes into competition. You

2291
01:53:34,520 --> 01:53:38,240
Speaker 1: stop and go so hard from full speed. As a

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01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:41,479
Speaker 1: wide receiver in the NFL, that's what creates the space.

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01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:43,920
Speaker 1: It's not just your ability to run fast. It's your

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01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:47,639
Speaker 1: ability to stop hard and explode in a different direction

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01:53:48,400 --> 01:53:51,000
Speaker 1: and fool the defender into thinking you're going a direction

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01:53:51,040 --> 01:53:53,400
Speaker 1: that you're not going. So you fool the guy you

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01:53:53,479 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 1: stop hard and you go in a direction he thinks

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01:53:55,240 --> 01:53:58,360
Speaker 1: you're going someplace else. That creates space. So it's all

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01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:01,719
Speaker 1: those things rolled into one. It's technique, it's physical ability,

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01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:04,280
Speaker 1: it's the play called. And you have to be at

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01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:07,800
Speaker 1: a spot on the field in a time frame that

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01:54:07,920 --> 01:54:09,680
Speaker 1: I'm kind of a mental clock. You have to be

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01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:11,880
Speaker 1: there when when the quarterback is ready to throw it,

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01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:15,479
Speaker 1: and you gotta do it as fast as you can

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01:54:15,640 --> 01:54:17,200
Speaker 1: and get creating. You've got to get to a spot

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01:54:17,240 --> 01:54:20,560
Speaker 1: on the field in a certain time by yourself, and

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01:54:20,720 --> 01:54:22,479
Speaker 1: it's hard to do. And all those things are in

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01:54:22,600 --> 01:54:24,559
Speaker 1: play as a wide receiver in the NFL. So yeah,

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01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:27,160
Speaker 1: there's no question the space has not been there at

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01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:31,479
Speaker 1: times for the Bills receivers. Some of it is for

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01:54:31,960 --> 01:54:34,839
Speaker 1: every reason I just discussed. Sometimes they get beat physically,

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Speaker 1: sometimes they're not good enough physically. Sometimes the play call

2313
01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:41,040
Speaker 1: is a gotcha play by the defense. They're waiting on

2314
01:54:41,160 --> 01:54:44,480
Speaker 1: that route, and so all that stuff is in play,

2315
01:54:44,520 --> 01:54:47,920
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's and it's happened too much, with too

2316
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:51,720
Speaker 1: much consistently consistency that the Bills haven't been able to

2317
01:54:51,760 --> 01:54:53,880
Speaker 1: get separation in the secondary. You gotta call here from

2318
01:54:53,960 --> 01:54:56,320
Speaker 1: Dave and Amherst. Hello Dave, Welcome to the show. Go ahead,

2319
01:54:56,360 --> 01:54:58,760
Speaker 1: you're on the air. Hey guys, great job, but I

2320
01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:02,080
Speaker 1: love the show. Thanks Dave. I'd like to quote Sean

2321
01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:06,680
Speaker 1: McDermot from last Tuesday's newspaper and then ask you a question.

2322
01:55:08,160 --> 01:55:10,520
Speaker 1: He said that we carried the ball six times in

2323
01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:13,200
Speaker 1: the first quarter against the Colts, producing just nine yards,

2324
01:55:13,280 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 1: and he says I didn't won the line of scrimmage,

2325
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:18,720
Speaker 1: which is the key to winning football games, both offensively

2326
01:55:18,800 --> 01:55:22,160
Speaker 1: and defensively. From that, things didn't go our way. We've

2327
01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:24,280
Speaker 1: got to make sure we establish a line of scrimmage

2328
01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:26,760
Speaker 1: and the run and the pass game, because things really

2329
01:55:26,840 --> 01:55:29,280
Speaker 1: fall from that, whether it's stopping the run, being able

2330
01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:32,000
Speaker 1: to run the football of the quarterback, and then keeping

2331
01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:35,760
Speaker 1: our quarterback with a clean pocket. Well, so here's my

2332
01:55:36,240 --> 01:55:39,120
Speaker 1: Is it really a slap a fair slap on Shady

2333
01:55:39,480 --> 01:55:41,640
Speaker 1: for a lack of his production or the fact that

2334
01:55:41,760 --> 01:55:44,840
Speaker 1: the offensive line doesn't have enough talent to give to

2335
01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:48,320
Speaker 1: give him even a crack to run through. I think

2336
01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:50,720
Speaker 1: it's a lack of talent on the old line. And

2337
01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:54,440
Speaker 1: Steve Tasper here who was just mentioning that relating to

2338
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:59,600
Speaker 1: that about our receivers creating space, and what it comes

2339
01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:02,720
Speaker 1: down to is they don't have enough talent. And Steve,

2340
01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:05,480
Speaker 1: you were just explaining exactly what they need to do.

2341
01:56:06,080 --> 01:56:09,760
Speaker 1: But it's quite obvious that they can't do it. Are they.

2342
01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:13,160
Speaker 1: Are they actually going after some offensive linemen? Are they

2343
01:56:13,240 --> 01:56:17,480
Speaker 1: out there? Well? All right, Dave, that's yeah, that's there's

2344
01:56:17,520 --> 01:56:19,640
Speaker 1: a lot in there. David, You're right, And there's if

2345
01:56:19,720 --> 01:56:23,000
Speaker 1: anybody who's out there is gonna be well, let's face it,

2346
01:56:23,080 --> 01:56:25,360
Speaker 1: they're gonna be the Derek Anderson of the offensive linemen

2347
01:56:25,440 --> 01:56:28,440
Speaker 1: that are available. Nobody available, Yeah, I mean if they're yeah,

2348
01:56:28,600 --> 01:56:30,800
Speaker 1: not for free. And and let's face it, the Bills

2349
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:33,080
Speaker 1: are up against the cap. They got dead cap money.

2350
01:56:33,080 --> 01:56:36,280
Speaker 1: I don't they you know, so they're not. You can't

2351
01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:38,280
Speaker 1: go out there and spend a bunch of money on

2352
01:56:39,480 --> 01:56:43,000
Speaker 1: players right down. And the way coaches do it, notoriously

2353
01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:46,520
Speaker 1: is to know, you got to crack the whip on

2354
01:56:46,600 --> 01:56:48,920
Speaker 1: the guys you got, you gotta you gotta treat them

2355
01:56:49,000 --> 01:56:50,920
Speaker 1: like rented mules. You gotta get something out of them.

2356
01:56:50,920 --> 01:56:54,520
Speaker 1: You gotta get them motivated, you gotta get them emotionally involved,

2357
01:56:54,520 --> 01:56:56,000
Speaker 1: you gotta get them engaged. You got to coach them

2358
01:56:56,080 --> 01:56:57,880
Speaker 1: up so they used at least the right techniques. So

2359
01:56:57,920 --> 01:57:01,360
Speaker 1: even if they're not physically superior to anybody they play against,

2360
01:57:01,400 --> 01:57:03,480
Speaker 1: at least they use the proper technique and you and

2361
01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:06,240
Speaker 1: make it as difficult as they can on the on

2362
01:57:06,360 --> 01:57:08,440
Speaker 1: the guy there man match man to man on. So

2363
01:57:09,120 --> 01:57:11,080
Speaker 1: it's up to the coaches. A lot of guys will

2364
01:57:11,120 --> 01:57:13,240
Speaker 1: tell you, hey, if you can motivate them the right way,

2365
01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:17,720
Speaker 1: they'll play better. Well as good as they can play,

2366
01:57:17,840 --> 01:57:20,640
Speaker 1: it may not be good enough, and I agree. I

2367
01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:22,720
Speaker 1: think the offensive line should shoulder a lot of the

2368
01:57:22,760 --> 01:57:24,880
Speaker 1: burden for the struggles the offense has had, and at

2369
01:57:24,920 --> 01:57:28,400
Speaker 1: times they're the sole reason for their struggles. Not all

2370
01:57:28,440 --> 01:57:30,960
Speaker 1: the time, but at times they are. And at times

2371
01:57:31,240 --> 01:57:34,040
Speaker 1: it's the wide receivers on the other end of a

2372
01:57:34,120 --> 01:57:36,920
Speaker 1: throw that can't get separation and can't make the catch.

2373
01:57:37,000 --> 01:57:40,280
Speaker 1: So you know, you've got eleven guys on offense and

2374
01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:42,440
Speaker 1: either and if either one, any one of them takes

2375
01:57:42,480 --> 01:57:46,640
Speaker 1: a turn at being the problem on that play, unlike defense,

2376
01:57:47,680 --> 01:57:50,080
Speaker 1: the whole play goes south. All right, what do you think?

2377
01:57:50,120 --> 01:57:53,040
Speaker 1: What's the Bill's best hope offensively? Second half of the season.

2378
01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:54,720
Speaker 1: We got phone lines open and time to do it

2379
01:57:55,120 --> 01:57:57,800
Speaker 1: eight O three fifty and toll free one eight eight

2380
01:57:58,440 --> 01:58:00,560
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. Get to more of your

2381
01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:03,440
Speaker 1: calls when we return plus NFL true and false. That's

2382
01:58:03,480 --> 01:58:06,720
Speaker 1: coming up. Also John Murphy's Team Tasker. One Bill's Live

2383
01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:21,680
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back.

2384
01:58:21,680 --> 01:58:24,240
Speaker 1: It's one Bill's Live here until three tomorrow show Thurman

2385
01:58:24,280 --> 01:58:27,520
Speaker 1: Thomas will be here tomorrow to recap the summer of

2386
01:58:27,600 --> 01:58:31,160
Speaker 1: th recap the events of the last few days. U.

2387
01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:33,640
Speaker 1: I hope Thurman is kind of chilling today and just

2388
01:58:33,720 --> 01:58:35,920
Speaker 1: kind of thinking. But a couple of days for him. See,

2389
01:58:36,040 --> 01:58:38,960
Speaker 1: really you know, and that spectacle last night, that that

2390
01:58:39,160 --> 01:58:41,040
Speaker 1: image last night, I mean that woud be burned into

2391
01:58:41,240 --> 01:58:44,680
Speaker 1: anybody's head forever, right, But I love look, man, I aims.

2392
01:58:44,800 --> 01:58:47,680
Speaker 1: That was so cool the way that stadium looks. At

2393
01:58:47,720 --> 01:58:50,920
Speaker 1: halftime for Thurman's Jersey retirement, I left our radio booth

2394
01:58:51,000 --> 01:58:52,560
Speaker 1: because I always do first thing right, you know, you

2395
01:58:52,600 --> 01:58:54,800
Speaker 1: got twelve minutes, ran right across the hall to the

2396
01:58:54,840 --> 01:58:56,800
Speaker 1: men's room, didn't even take a look at the field,

2397
01:58:56,920 --> 01:59:00,680
Speaker 1: ran back out and I was like, whoa. It was unbelievable.

2398
01:59:00,920 --> 01:59:03,600
Speaker 1: It was unbelievable last night. The lights were out. They

2399
01:59:03,680 --> 01:59:05,240
Speaker 1: turned the lights out, and they had these you know,

2400
01:59:05,400 --> 01:59:08,680
Speaker 1: the color and the orange stripes down the side, underneath

2401
01:59:08,760 --> 01:59:12,760
Speaker 1: the over the second level were the heating units, were

2402
01:59:12,840 --> 01:59:16,240
Speaker 1: the club seats, and it gave it that really cool

2403
01:59:16,360 --> 01:59:19,800
Speaker 1: warm glow, red glow. Man, it was awesome. Best part

2404
01:59:19,840 --> 01:59:23,000
Speaker 1: of the night. Yeah, probably, I don't know. The defense

2405
01:59:23,120 --> 01:59:25,160
Speaker 1: is off. I will I will go along with our

2406
01:59:25,320 --> 01:59:28,280
Speaker 1: with our people who chimed in on our Twitter poll yesterday.

2407
01:59:28,360 --> 01:59:32,000
Speaker 1: The tailgate wasn't bad, The atmosphere wasn't bad. It was

2408
01:59:32,200 --> 01:59:34,520
Speaker 1: it was. It was very fun. Let's take a few

2409
01:59:34,560 --> 01:59:36,720
Speaker 1: more phone calls your thoughts on the Buffalo offense. Is

2410
01:59:36,760 --> 01:59:38,920
Speaker 1: there any hope? What do you think? What can they

2411
01:59:38,960 --> 01:59:41,280
Speaker 1: look for? Here's Bob and Buffalo. Hi, Bob, go ahead,

2412
01:59:41,280 --> 01:59:46,360
Speaker 1: and you're on the air, Bob, Hi, Yeah, you're on

2413
01:59:46,400 --> 01:59:48,760
Speaker 1: the air. Go ahead, Bob. Yeah. I'm just calling to

2414
01:59:48,800 --> 01:59:50,720
Speaker 1: say I thought that those were pretty good yesterday at

2415
01:59:50,720 --> 01:59:53,080
Speaker 1: the national stage at the beginning of the fourth quarter.

2416
01:59:53,640 --> 01:59:56,200
Speaker 1: They weren't out of the game. And I haven't even

2417
01:59:56,240 --> 01:59:59,720
Speaker 1: given up on Peterman yet, winning two five interceptions, last

2418
02:00:00,040 --> 02:00:03,160
Speaker 1: first one bounced off to Marco's hands and he lost

2419
02:00:03,240 --> 02:00:07,560
Speaker 1: his confidence. And I think if they rally around him, obviously, um,

2420
02:00:07,800 --> 02:00:10,320
Speaker 1: you know, Josh Allen's got more challenge. But I'm not

2421
02:00:10,360 --> 02:00:12,680
Speaker 1: giving up on the Bills yet. All Right. I gotta

2422
02:00:12,720 --> 02:00:16,960
Speaker 1: tell you, what kind of mental state would you have if, say,

2423
02:00:17,040 --> 02:00:19,440
Speaker 1: for instance, we don't know anything about Derek Anderson or

2424
02:00:19,480 --> 02:00:22,720
Speaker 1: house severity of an injury. What I mean, what's it

2425
02:00:22,800 --> 02:00:25,560
Speaker 1: gonna be like in Buffalo if Nathan Peterman is the

2426
02:00:25,640 --> 02:00:28,760
Speaker 1: last guy standing this week? Because they won't even if

2427
02:00:28,840 --> 02:00:30,680
Speaker 1: Derek Anderson can't go, I don't know who to be

2428
02:00:30,720 --> 02:00:34,360
Speaker 1: the backup, right, But I guess I'm look at it

2429
02:00:34,480 --> 02:00:36,360
Speaker 1: like the Bills saw something and him to make him

2430
02:00:36,360 --> 02:00:38,720
Speaker 1: a starter for the first game of the year, And

2431
02:00:39,560 --> 02:00:41,240
Speaker 1: I'm not giving up on him, you know, I think

2432
02:00:41,320 --> 02:00:44,320
Speaker 1: if he gets a little confidence, I think it's snowballed

2433
02:00:44,360 --> 02:00:46,320
Speaker 1: on him last year when he got all those interceptions,

2434
02:00:46,320 --> 02:00:48,640
Speaker 1: because he really lost his confidence. And I've got calling

2435
02:00:48,720 --> 02:00:52,440
Speaker 1: for him, all right, might sound crazy, Well, there's a

2436
02:00:52,480 --> 02:00:54,600
Speaker 1: lot of people that get a little bit. There's a

2437
02:00:54,640 --> 02:00:57,040
Speaker 1: lot of people in Buffalo are just so fixated on

2438
02:00:57,200 --> 02:00:59,520
Speaker 1: that story of redemption that we have yet to see.

2439
02:01:00,120 --> 02:01:01,960
Speaker 1: I'd love to see it. I would love too. I

2440
02:01:02,000 --> 02:01:06,520
Speaker 1: would love to as well. But you talk about having hope,

2441
02:01:06,520 --> 02:01:08,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if I have any for that. If

2442
02:01:08,280 --> 02:01:11,200
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman asked to start against the Bears, he'll be

2443
02:01:11,280 --> 02:01:15,160
Speaker 1: starting against the number one NFL team in percentage of intercepts,

2444
02:01:15,280 --> 02:01:20,760
Speaker 1: number one. You talking about a perfect the snow again.

2445
02:01:21,000 --> 02:01:23,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't even start. We can't even

2446
02:01:23,680 --> 02:01:26,000
Speaker 1: you know what we can't We can't start. We can't

2447
02:01:26,000 --> 02:01:28,040
Speaker 1: start talking about that. In the last twenty minutes of version,

2448
02:01:29,040 --> 02:01:31,000
Speaker 1: as you said, not at all for that redemption story.

2449
02:01:31,000 --> 02:01:33,160
Speaker 1: I don't know when it'll come. I I hope it

2450
02:01:33,240 --> 02:01:35,800
Speaker 1: comes someday for his sake. For all of our sake. Um,

2451
02:01:35,960 --> 02:01:38,280
Speaker 1: but that would be that would be uh, that would

2452
02:01:38,320 --> 02:01:42,800
Speaker 1: be the storyline going. Bro, Well, I am not ready

2453
02:01:42,800 --> 02:01:45,120
Speaker 1: for that topic yet. I can't, we can't. We're not

2454
02:01:45,120 --> 02:01:47,360
Speaker 1: gonna go. We gotta Yeah, I'm just gonna listen to

2455
02:01:47,440 --> 02:01:50,400
Speaker 1: Sean mcdermot's four o'clock. Yeah, four o'clock today the coach

2456
02:01:50,680 --> 02:01:53,280
Speaker 1: talks to the medium. Maybe an update out of the quarterbacks, sad,

2457
02:01:53,360 --> 02:01:55,640
Speaker 1: I'm not ready for that little nugget to come out.

2458
02:01:55,720 --> 02:01:57,880
Speaker 1: I call here from David Michigan Illo, Dave, go ahead,

2459
02:01:59,520 --> 02:02:01,600
Speaker 1: Hey guys, it's a great show. Thank you for taking

2460
02:02:01,680 --> 02:02:06,400
Speaker 1: my call. I just had a question and in a comment,

2461
02:02:06,480 --> 02:02:08,880
Speaker 1: But my question is, you know, we've been talking about

2462
02:02:08,920 --> 02:02:12,680
Speaker 1: the lack of talent at the receiver position that the

2463
02:02:12,760 --> 02:02:15,960
Speaker 1: Bills have, and then I look across, you know, the

2464
02:02:16,680 --> 02:02:20,000
Speaker 1: game last night brings to mind how many years we've heard,

2465
02:02:20,560 --> 02:02:23,880
Speaker 1: you know, the Patriots have no name receivers, so to speak,

2466
02:02:23,920 --> 02:02:26,920
Speaker 1: and it just seems like an organization like that could

2467
02:02:27,040 --> 02:02:29,880
Speaker 1: pull a guy out of the stands in one week

2468
02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:32,880
Speaker 1: turn them into a productive player. I know that's an exaggeration,

2469
02:02:32,920 --> 02:02:34,640
Speaker 1: but who do you even mind? Dave? Who are you

2470
02:02:34,720 --> 02:02:37,920
Speaker 1: thinking there? But I don't know. I'm just I would

2471
02:02:37,960 --> 02:02:41,160
Speaker 1: like your opinion on how does an organization like that.

2472
02:02:41,440 --> 02:02:43,080
Speaker 1: Is it all Brady that he can just make a

2473
02:02:43,160 --> 02:02:46,560
Speaker 1: pedestrian receiver look like a Pro Bowl player? Is that

2474
02:02:47,320 --> 02:02:49,760
Speaker 1: the fact that they can evaluate talent so well that

2475
02:02:49,840 --> 02:02:52,760
Speaker 1: they can find these diamonds interrupt? And you know the

2476
02:02:53,080 --> 02:02:56,040
Speaker 1: no name players? I mean, given someday that can that

2477
02:02:56,160 --> 02:02:58,240
Speaker 1: could be to Yeah, I mean, and I want to

2478
02:02:58,280 --> 02:03:00,440
Speaker 1: get seams take on this. I don't know that they

2479
02:03:00,480 --> 02:03:02,240
Speaker 1: are no names, right? Josh Gordon is not a non

2480
02:03:02,320 --> 02:03:04,640
Speaker 1: name player that they signed, right, that they traded for

2481
02:03:04,840 --> 02:03:08,240
Speaker 1: from Cleveland? Not a no name. I'm not talking yeah,

2482
02:03:08,240 --> 02:03:10,920
Speaker 1: I'm not talking specifically of this year, but I as

2483
02:03:11,160 --> 02:03:15,160
Speaker 1: they have they have frought these players in that you know,

2484
02:03:15,360 --> 02:03:17,760
Speaker 1: who the heck is this guy? Yeah? All right? Maybe not?

2485
02:03:17,840 --> 02:03:20,480
Speaker 1: I mean court Paris Patterson is not a no name guy.

2486
02:03:20,720 --> 02:03:22,360
Speaker 1: Chris Hogan had a pretty good name here for a

2487
02:03:22,400 --> 02:03:24,240
Speaker 1: couple of years in Buffalo. I don't know who you're

2488
02:03:24,240 --> 02:03:25,880
Speaker 1: thinking of. I'd have to think about that a little bit,

2489
02:03:25,960 --> 02:03:28,480
Speaker 1: but I do think that you're right on Dave when

2490
02:03:28,520 --> 02:03:30,600
Speaker 1: you say, is it Brady can make something out of

2491
02:03:30,640 --> 02:03:33,320
Speaker 1: these guys? The answer is yes, I think he can. Yeah.

2492
02:03:33,400 --> 02:03:35,520
Speaker 1: They do have a program and a quarterback that is

2493
02:03:35,760 --> 02:03:38,120
Speaker 1: very good at spreading the football around. They also have

2494
02:03:38,240 --> 02:03:40,640
Speaker 1: a culture in their building where they're a different team

2495
02:03:40,720 --> 02:03:45,360
Speaker 1: every week. They are notorious for winning different ways, with

2496
02:03:45,480 --> 02:03:48,520
Speaker 1: a different game plan and a different identity. Even it

2497
02:03:48,600 --> 02:03:51,120
Speaker 1: almost seems like they can change their DNA week to week.

2498
02:03:51,200 --> 02:03:52,960
Speaker 1: Tom Brady gives them a lot of that, and his

2499
02:03:53,040 --> 02:03:56,320
Speaker 1: ability to spread the football around and not get fixated

2500
02:03:56,320 --> 02:04:00,480
Speaker 1: on anyone receiver, even Gronkowski. If they if gunk Kowski's

2501
02:04:00,480 --> 02:04:03,160
Speaker 1: not around, that they don't even miss a beat. You

2502
02:04:03,280 --> 02:04:05,920
Speaker 1: think about what happened with Malcolm Butler in the Super Bowl.

2503
02:04:05,920 --> 02:04:08,640
Speaker 1: They had a starting corner and they had no problems.

2504
02:04:08,760 --> 02:04:10,240
Speaker 1: You know what, You're gonna sit down today because we

2505
02:04:10,320 --> 02:04:13,040
Speaker 1: think it was best for our football team. One week,

2506
02:04:13,640 --> 02:04:16,200
Speaker 1: a guy Sony Michelle will come out and run for

2507
02:04:16,320 --> 02:04:19,000
Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety yards and thirty five touches. I'm

2508
02:04:19,040 --> 02:04:20,920
Speaker 1: exaggerating here. I don't know if this actually happened, but

2509
02:04:21,240 --> 02:04:23,720
Speaker 1: I'm exaggerating to make a point. The He'll have thirty

2510
02:04:23,760 --> 02:04:26,080
Speaker 1: five touches, run for one hundred and ninety yards and

2511
02:04:26,240 --> 02:04:29,200
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, and the next week he'll only get two touches,

2512
02:04:29,560 --> 02:04:31,640
Speaker 1: and they won't even try to use him because the

2513
02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:35,839
Speaker 1: matchup they see is someplace else. There's no question the Patriots,

2514
02:04:35,880 --> 02:04:38,520
Speaker 1: you you need to acknowledge they do things a little

2515
02:04:38,560 --> 02:04:40,360
Speaker 1: differently than everybody else, and they do them better than

2516
02:04:40,400 --> 02:04:42,520
Speaker 1: anybody else. They do what they do better than anybody

2517
02:04:42,560 --> 02:04:44,880
Speaker 1: else does what they do, and they have for a

2518
02:04:44,960 --> 02:04:48,200
Speaker 1: long long time. Tom Brady does give them some of that,

2519
02:04:48,960 --> 02:04:50,360
Speaker 1: but I also think it has a lot to do

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02:04:50,440 --> 02:04:54,320
Speaker 1: with their head coach. Yeah, cordinell Panamson last night lined

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02:04:54,400 --> 02:04:57,240
Speaker 1: up it started at running bad right. I mean I

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02:04:57,360 --> 02:04:59,600
Speaker 1: didn't I watched four Patriots games. I didn't see any

2523
02:04:59,600 --> 02:05:01,640
Speaker 1: of that. There there it is they were down Sony

2524
02:05:01,720 --> 02:05:04,600
Speaker 1: Michelle and so Patterson, you're in You're the guy, you know,

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02:05:04,720 --> 02:05:07,240
Speaker 1: Cordall Patterson all of a sudden, is is is a

2526
02:05:07,320 --> 02:05:10,240
Speaker 1: running back? Right? He had uh what ten carries last night?

2527
02:05:10,680 --> 02:05:13,040
Speaker 1: I don't know they have a knack for doing it.

2528
02:05:13,160 --> 02:05:15,520
Speaker 1: It's it is coaching. It is the program and a

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02:05:15,560 --> 02:05:17,400
Speaker 1: lot of it, I do believe see even it's not

2530
02:05:17,480 --> 02:05:19,360
Speaker 1: an excuse they have them, but it's the Hall of

2531
02:05:19,400 --> 02:05:22,080
Speaker 1: Fame quarterback, the guy running this, running this and listens

2532
02:05:22,200 --> 02:05:24,760
Speaker 1: it's culture too. You can you can thumb your nose

2533
02:05:24,840 --> 02:05:26,560
Speaker 1: or roll your eyes when I say that, but listen,

2534
02:05:26,680 --> 02:05:29,280
Speaker 1: they pick guys who when you come to the guy

2535
02:05:29,400 --> 02:05:31,720
Speaker 1: and say, listen, this week, you're gonna line up in

2536
02:05:31,720 --> 02:05:33,960
Speaker 1: the backfield, we're gonna hand it to you. A lot

2537
02:05:34,000 --> 02:05:37,800
Speaker 1: of people other than Cordoall Patterson, what can you imagine?

2538
02:05:37,840 --> 02:05:41,760
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins sat he would not do it. There are

2539
02:05:41,760 --> 02:05:43,680
Speaker 1: a couple times last night and I thought Patterson doesn't

2540
02:05:43,720 --> 02:05:45,600
Speaker 1: like this, you know, yeah, but you know what. The

2541
02:05:45,760 --> 02:05:48,000
Speaker 1: guys they hire, the guys they keep in their building,

2542
02:05:48,080 --> 02:05:50,440
Speaker 1: they may be less physically gifted or less you know,

2543
02:05:50,600 --> 02:05:53,120
Speaker 1: on paper, look like that, but they're the guys who

2544
02:05:53,160 --> 02:05:54,320
Speaker 1: are saying, all right, I'm gonna do it, and I'm

2545
02:05:54,320 --> 02:05:56,720
Speaker 1: gonna give you best effort, and they do. That's a

2546
02:05:56,800 --> 02:05:59,520
Speaker 1: culture and that's uh, that's something that the Patriots have

2547
02:05:59,600 --> 02:06:02,960
Speaker 1: always done and continue to do very well. How committed

2548
02:06:03,000 --> 02:06:08,160
Speaker 1: are you to NFL two or false, Stevie, Let's do

2549
02:06:08,280 --> 02:06:10,560
Speaker 1: it one or two of them anyway, NFL two or false.

2550
02:06:11,040 --> 02:06:12,520
Speaker 1: I like when we open up the show and let

2551
02:06:12,560 --> 02:06:14,520
Speaker 1: people see how we've figured this out. You know what

2552
02:06:14,560 --> 02:06:16,360
Speaker 1: I mean. He's making it up as he goes alone.

2553
02:06:16,520 --> 02:06:19,120
Speaker 1: NFL two or False presented by Yancey's Fancy New York's

2554
02:06:19,200 --> 02:06:22,120
Speaker 1: artist and Cheese. This was on the ESPN story over

2555
02:06:22,200 --> 02:06:25,200
Speaker 1: reactions after Week eight. Andrew Luck on the Colts will

2556
02:06:25,240 --> 02:06:28,000
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. I'm gonna say false. They could. I

2557
02:06:28,080 --> 02:06:30,040
Speaker 1: think the Texans made a big move today to go

2558
02:06:30,360 --> 02:06:33,200
Speaker 1: ahead and kind of strangle hold that division. But we'll see.

2559
02:06:33,760 --> 02:06:36,400
Speaker 1: I would say false. The luck in the Colts improving,

2560
02:06:36,520 --> 02:06:38,720
Speaker 1: getting better, I don't think there'll be a playoff team.

2561
02:06:38,720 --> 02:06:41,680
Speaker 1: What do you think? I say false? As well. They're

2562
02:06:41,680 --> 02:06:45,280
Speaker 1: in the South. They're third in that division. They're behind

2563
02:06:45,680 --> 02:06:48,840
Speaker 1: Tennessee and Houston. You've got seven and one Kansas City,

2564
02:06:48,880 --> 02:06:51,400
Speaker 1: five and two Chargers, four and two, Pittsburgh, five and

2565
02:06:51,520 --> 02:06:54,720
Speaker 1: three Cincinnati. Those are the teams they've got to be chasing,

2566
02:06:54,760 --> 02:06:56,120
Speaker 1: and I don't think they're gonna get there. I just

2567
02:06:56,160 --> 02:06:58,720
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna be three teams from the South

2568
02:06:58,880 --> 02:07:01,960
Speaker 1: they get in feltrue or false part too. The Minnesota Vikings.

2569
02:07:02,360 --> 02:07:04,840
Speaker 1: This was in a USA Today post. The Minnesota Vikings

2570
02:07:04,880 --> 02:07:07,280
Speaker 1: are not getting their money's worth from Kirk Cousins, not

2571
02:07:07,360 --> 02:07:10,400
Speaker 1: playing enough to his contract. Look, we've gone over this.

2572
02:07:10,760 --> 02:07:13,320
Speaker 1: You signed a free agent at any position, including quarterback,

2573
02:07:13,360 --> 02:07:16,440
Speaker 1: you overpay. If you don't overpay, you don't get the guy.

2574
02:07:16,560 --> 02:07:18,280
Speaker 1: He's not going to live up to whatever money you

2575
02:07:18,360 --> 02:07:20,880
Speaker 1: think he's earned. I think he's I think he's an

2576
02:07:20,920 --> 02:07:22,840
Speaker 1: upgrade over what they were doing at quarterback last year.

2577
02:07:22,840 --> 02:07:25,560
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, are they getting their money's worth?

2578
02:07:26,160 --> 02:07:29,320
Speaker 1: No free agent, unrestricted free agent ever lives up to

2579
02:07:29,360 --> 02:07:31,520
Speaker 1: the money. But if you don't paying the money, you

2580
02:07:31,560 --> 02:07:34,360
Speaker 1: won't get him. So that's false. You're right on the money.

2581
02:07:35,160 --> 02:07:36,520
Speaker 1: You are going to have to overpay to get a

2582
02:07:36,560 --> 02:07:39,240
Speaker 1: guy at Kirk Cousins, particularly in last year's quarterback market,

2583
02:07:39,440 --> 02:07:42,880
Speaker 1: with all those guys coming out. Cousins gives them exactly

2584
02:07:43,000 --> 02:07:45,320
Speaker 1: what they expected him to give him. He gives them

2585
02:07:45,320 --> 02:07:47,720
Speaker 1: a little extra skill and a little extra something at

2586
02:07:47,800 --> 02:07:51,960
Speaker 1: quarterback that they can depend on. And he is almost

2587
02:07:52,000 --> 02:07:54,840
Speaker 1: I read an article on this, he's almost statistically almost

2588
02:07:54,920 --> 02:07:57,280
Speaker 1: exactly what he was in Washington. They knew exactly what

2589
02:07:57,320 --> 02:07:59,120
Speaker 1: he's getting. So if they thought they were getting that guy,

2590
02:07:59,280 --> 02:08:03,360
Speaker 1: that's what they got, getting what they had. Great, he's

2591
02:08:03,400 --> 02:08:06,360
Speaker 1: got good, good statistics, but a five hundred record. Ye

2592
02:08:06,880 --> 02:08:09,320
Speaker 1: all right? Finally, NFL true or false? This is interesting

2593
02:08:09,360 --> 02:08:12,280
Speaker 1: and this was a USA Today covering the Browns. Greg

2594
02:08:12,320 --> 02:08:16,920
Speaker 1: Williams will rescue the Browns. True false. There's no sound

2595
02:08:16,960 --> 02:08:18,840
Speaker 1: like you got something. There's no rescue in the Browns.

2596
02:08:19,000 --> 02:08:22,960
Speaker 1: And there's no question he could win the head coaching

2597
02:08:23,040 --> 02:08:26,040
Speaker 1: job and drop the interim tag from his name. Um,

2598
02:08:26,200 --> 02:08:28,160
Speaker 1: and he had and I think he's got the personality

2599
02:08:28,280 --> 02:08:30,680
Speaker 1: to do it. I don't think that team is set

2600
02:08:30,800 --> 02:08:33,120
Speaker 1: up for Greg Williams to save it, oh not now.

2601
02:08:33,200 --> 02:08:36,280
Speaker 1: But two things I hope that he does for two reasons.

2602
02:08:36,400 --> 02:08:38,840
Speaker 1: Number One, those Browns fans they need a break, right.

2603
02:08:39,120 --> 02:08:40,560
Speaker 1: We need a break here too, by the way, but

2604
02:08:40,640 --> 02:08:43,680
Speaker 1: they they've been loyal, they've been supportive. Um. I think

2605
02:08:43,720 --> 02:08:45,360
Speaker 1: it'd be good for the Browns if if they came

2606
02:08:45,400 --> 02:08:47,840
Speaker 1: around and finished strong this year. Secondly, and may be

2607
02:08:47,920 --> 02:08:49,720
Speaker 1: in the minority here, and I know Greg Williams is

2608
02:08:49,720 --> 02:08:54,160
Speaker 1: abrasive and and you know a little bit self centered

2609
02:08:54,320 --> 02:08:56,760
Speaker 1: is that the right word. I like the guy. I

2610
02:08:56,880 --> 02:08:59,440
Speaker 1: think he is a I think he's a fun guy

2611
02:08:59,480 --> 02:09:01,040
Speaker 1: to be around. I think he knows what he's doing

2612
02:09:01,080 --> 02:09:03,440
Speaker 1: when it comes to coaching defense. I think he is

2613
02:09:03,720 --> 02:09:08,200
Speaker 1: quite possibly the greatest, uh the greatest developer of new

2614
02:09:08,280 --> 02:09:12,000
Speaker 1: swear words that I've ever heard of. I like Greg Williams, right,

2615
02:09:12,040 --> 02:09:13,880
Speaker 1: I hope that he rescues the Browns. I'm gonna say true.

2616
02:09:13,880 --> 02:09:15,680
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, And I'll tell you this, you know, you know,

2617
02:09:15,800 --> 02:09:18,240
Speaker 1: but you talk. We talk about guys from other teams

2618
02:09:18,280 --> 02:09:19,920
Speaker 1: all the time, particularly the guys who have been through

2619
02:09:19,960 --> 02:09:22,400
Speaker 1: Buffalo or guys we've had a personal relationship, but each

2620
02:09:22,440 --> 02:09:24,080
Speaker 1: here for him. I do help the best for him.

2621
02:09:24,160 --> 02:09:26,080
Speaker 1: And and Greg Williams is one of those guys. I

2622
02:09:26,240 --> 02:09:28,920
Speaker 1: you know, I certainly you know, don't want him coming

2623
02:09:28,960 --> 02:09:31,600
Speaker 1: in wiping up the floor with the Bills, right, but

2624
02:09:31,680 --> 02:09:33,320
Speaker 1: I don't care if he has success down there and

2625
02:09:33,360 --> 02:09:35,200
Speaker 1: it's no skin. We don't have any skin in that game,

2626
02:09:35,320 --> 02:09:37,800
Speaker 1: you know. So I do wish the best for him.

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02:09:38,320 --> 02:09:41,160
Speaker 1: You don't think I don't think. I don't think this

2628
02:09:41,360 --> 02:09:44,200
Speaker 1: is the right position for for him to save the Prins.

2629
02:09:44,240 --> 02:09:45,600
Speaker 1: I don't think it's the right point in history for

2630
02:09:45,640 --> 02:09:50,400
Speaker 1: them to be saved. Wow, we're talking about the Bills. Listen,

2631
02:09:50,480 --> 02:09:53,160
Speaker 1: they lack of hope? What about that. I'm not in

2632
02:09:53,160 --> 02:09:56,120
Speaker 1: a position to be saved. That's sad. Not this year,

2633
02:09:56,960 --> 02:09:59,120
Speaker 1: you know, NFL true or falls brought to you by

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Speaker 1: At Pro Sports high School Coaches of the Week, we

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Speaker 1: now eight and one. They'll play for the Section six

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Speaker 1: Sports Coach of the Week Jeff Mandial of Victor. He

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Speaker 1: led Victor pass undefeated Canondegua twenty seven to seven in

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Speaker 1: the Section five Class A semifinals. Victor now seven and two.

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Speaker 1: On the season, they'll play a Roniquoid in the Section

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Speaker 1: five Class A Championship games. Steve and I backwoodmore one

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Speaker 1: learned from today's show? Pretty good show today? What did

2656
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2658
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Speaker 1: Buffalo offense and how they really have not lived up

2659
02:11:22,920 --> 02:11:25,160
Speaker 1: to expectations and they've kind of let the defense down.

2660
02:11:25,240 --> 02:11:29,000
Speaker 1: Here's what Chris Brown had to say, The flat out

2661
02:11:29,520 --> 02:11:31,840
Speaker 1: end result is it's just not good enough. And now

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02:11:31,920 --> 02:11:33,960
Speaker 1: I think it's to a point where a lot of

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02:11:34,000 --> 02:11:37,200
Speaker 1: players on offense, McCoy chief among them, are pressing to

2664
02:11:37,320 --> 02:11:41,960
Speaker 1: make things happen because they feel they know they're letting

2665
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Speaker 1: this defense down. Because McCoy was asked, point blank in

2666
02:11:45,880 --> 02:11:48,760
Speaker 1: the locker room last night, do you feel you're letting

2667
02:11:48,800 --> 02:11:52,160
Speaker 1: the defense down? He's like, yeah, we are, we are.

2668
02:11:53,040 --> 02:11:56,360
Speaker 1: We are. He's right, they are. They're right when they

2669
02:11:56,400 --> 02:11:59,760
Speaker 1: say that also not playing good enough. Peter King from

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02:12:00,000 --> 02:12:02,480
Speaker 1: Football Morning in America joined US today talks about the

2671
02:12:02,720 --> 02:12:05,840
Speaker 1: Bills Patriots game and how how important it is to

2672
02:12:05,920 --> 02:12:08,440
Speaker 1: have that game on national TV when they play in Buffalo,

2673
02:12:10,400 --> 02:12:14,720
Speaker 1: a primetime game, you know, a big game in Buffalo.

2674
02:12:15,240 --> 02:12:18,640
Speaker 1: I've tried. I've tried to tell people this about Patriots

2675
02:12:18,760 --> 02:12:21,960
Speaker 1: Bills games in Buffalo over the years. I think I've

2676
02:12:22,000 --> 02:12:26,280
Speaker 1: been to three of them. It's Rich Stark's Yankees playoff game.

2677
02:12:27,280 --> 02:12:32,080
Speaker 1: It's the people in Buffalo want to win that game bad. Yeah,

2678
02:12:32,400 --> 02:12:35,680
Speaker 1: and it's just and you say, well, why you're not

2679
02:12:35,800 --> 02:12:39,600
Speaker 1: going anywhere this year? And I my feeling is, well,

2680
02:12:39,640 --> 02:12:43,600
Speaker 1: that's precisely the reason. Last night was a playoff game

2681
02:12:44,080 --> 02:12:47,440
Speaker 1: for the people who live in Buffalo period. Hopefully not

2682
02:12:47,600 --> 02:12:49,880
Speaker 1: the last one. I do disagree with that when he

2683
02:12:49,920 --> 02:12:51,680
Speaker 1: said it's the last meaningful game on the schedule. I

2684
02:12:51,720 --> 02:12:54,400
Speaker 1: don't believe that. See, we got eight games left. Look,

2685
02:12:54,440 --> 02:12:56,120
Speaker 1: it's been bad, and the last couple of weeks I've

2686
02:12:56,160 --> 02:12:59,920
Speaker 1: been awful for the Bills offensively especially, But this people

2687
02:13:00,040 --> 02:13:02,120
Speaker 1: will shake their heads. But the season's not over. The

2688
02:13:02,160 --> 02:13:04,800
Speaker 1: story of the season is not yet over. So there's

2689
02:13:04,800 --> 02:13:06,240
Speaker 1: a lot of things we want to find out about

2690
02:13:06,280 --> 02:13:08,640
Speaker 1: this team as well. Yeah, there's a lot of things

2691
02:13:08,720 --> 02:13:11,920
Speaker 1: to be thinking about for not only for the future

2692
02:13:12,000 --> 02:13:14,080
Speaker 1: but also this season, about what it's going to look

2693
02:13:14,160 --> 02:13:17,600
Speaker 1: like and what and if it as it does roll down.

2694
02:13:17,680 --> 02:13:21,120
Speaker 1: If they if they do continue to struggle offensively and

2695
02:13:21,200 --> 02:13:23,320
Speaker 1: can't get get over the hump and get a win,

2696
02:13:23,800 --> 02:13:25,840
Speaker 1: You're gonna start to think about what pieces are going

2697
02:13:25,920 --> 02:13:28,520
Speaker 1: to be still around when the season ends and when

2698
02:13:28,960 --> 02:13:30,760
Speaker 1: they kick it off next season. Yep, Hey, we got

2699
02:13:30,840 --> 02:13:33,520
Speaker 1: to show to do Tomorrow. We will take a deep breath,

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Speaker 1: come back forget about the Patriots and talk about the Bear.

2701
02:13:36,720 --> 02:13:39,560
Speaker 1: Starting tomorrow, we'll get some Bills players from the current

2702
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Speaker 1: team we would think on tomorrow's show. Also tomorrow, Thurman

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Speaker 1: Thomas will join us to recap his incredible few days.

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