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Speaker 6: Well, Bill, guess.
Speaker 2: First we come on too early, then we come on
Speaker 2: too l late.
Speaker 6: On the NFL rule for signing practice squad guys starts
Speaker 6: at noon.
Speaker 3: It starts at noon. Is that Eastern time or Central
Speaker 3: our time? Okay, Central time. So news will officially break
Speaker 3: right about anyone being signed to the Cowboys practice squad.
Speaker 6: Though the Cowboys probably won't make it official until they
Speaker 6: have all sixteen guys signed because they don't want to
Speaker 6: drive anybody away. Then might sign here and say, oh,
Speaker 6: there's too many of that position. I go somewhere else.
Speaker 3: Okay, So any reports that are out there about the
Speaker 3: players signing with the Cowboys, nothing is official until noon today.
Speaker 6: That's when they can start signing guys back, okay, because
Speaker 6: before they change the rule, you had to wait till
Speaker 6: three o'clock. But they decided, well, teams are practicing, let's
Speaker 6: get the practice squad together for the practice. And that's
Speaker 6: why they're precs like at night. Also, by the way, okay,
Speaker 6: all right, one of the reasons.
Speaker 7: Okay. So anyway, that's how we get things started.
Speaker 3: And on Monday, we got breaking news after we got
Speaker 3: off the air.
Speaker 2: Here, and that was that clam.
Speaker 7: Has signed his contract. And I think everyone.
Speaker 8: Over let's go, let's go, let's go, baby, let's do this.
Speaker 3: And I think everyone could have predicted that Monday was
Speaker 3: going to be the day.
Speaker 6: Sure, absolutely, especially since uh Jerry when communication cold on Saturday.
Speaker 3: When Jerry goes communication cold, right, that means something something similar.
Speaker 2: For sure, when when he doesn't talk, when he.
Speaker 6: Refused, didn't say anything, I didn't mention.
Speaker 2: Him, solike him.
Speaker 6: That's when you know something's close.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 9: But how great was it to see c D yesterday
Speaker 9: at Cowboys Night at the practice.
Speaker 10: He was just so happy to be back in this facility.
Speaker 9: His interview afterwards, Oh my gosh, he was over joyed
Speaker 9: to be back.
Speaker 3: I think he was overjoyed to be back here with us,
Speaker 3: or was there another reason that he.
Speaker 8: Was well, But I mean, you know, we knew it
Speaker 8: was gonna We knew it was going to happen. I
Speaker 8: mean that we all felt it was going to happen.
Speaker 8: But you know, he was not just happy because of that.
Speaker 8: He's happy because it's over, it's.
Speaker 6: Done, and he gets, as he pointed out, I get
Speaker 6: to do what I love to do, get to go
Speaker 6: back and play footnoll because he pointed out that he
Speaker 6: hadn't been in this building since the middle of January
Speaker 6: after the loss.
Speaker 8: Let's let's just let's just look at his numbers from
Speaker 8: last year, and you know that he's going to He's
Speaker 8: his off season was probably as professional as it could be,
Speaker 8: you know, considering the fact that that he's not signed.
Speaker 2: He hadn't signed at the.
Speaker 6: Time, but huge contract.
Speaker 8: But yeah, but you also knew that he was going
Speaker 8: to be in shape when he got here, absolutely, because
Speaker 8: that's you know, guys, these days, they're not like we
Speaker 8: were back.
Speaker 6: In the day, spags, we went to training camp to.
Speaker 2: Get in shape.
Speaker 8: Now we this guy and all of these professionally at
Speaker 8: these these days. It's a twenty four hour, three hundred
Speaker 8: and sixty five degree deal.
Speaker 6: And he said he'd be ready. He's been running, he's
Speaker 6: been doing, he said. The only thing I haven't been
Speaker 6: able to do is have somebody kind of jostle me.
Speaker 10: Around, like the contact, a little bit.
Speaker 6: Of contact to hit when you know you're going to.
Speaker 2: Get guys like myself. Yeah, guy might be invading his
Speaker 2: sale somebody. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And that's hard to simulate, it is. So he
Speaker 6: gets it done. It's an extension now, right, So because
Speaker 6: of the year he had on the contract, they rolled
Speaker 6: that money into the total package of what ended up
Speaker 6: being one hundred and thirty six million, So this seventeen
Speaker 6: point ninety nine went into that package, and then they
Speaker 6: could lower his base salary this year to the minimum
Speaker 6: of one point two I think one point one two.
Speaker 6: But what they wanted to do is pro rate the
Speaker 6: thirty eight million dollars signing bonus over five years, so
Speaker 6: they get to do it this year and then the
Speaker 6: four years of the extension. So good deal for him.
Speaker 6: But if you look at the guaranteed money.
Speaker 7: The last year one hundred right million.
Speaker 6: But that's that was what you can earn with play incentives.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, but the so he's up to one hundred
Speaker 3: million guarantee.
Speaker 6: But the final year of his contract twenty twenty eight,
Speaker 6: so final year of the extension. Uh, it's a thirty
Speaker 6: one million dollar base salary and it's not guaranteed. So
Speaker 6: to me, I'm dividing taking thirty one out of the
Speaker 6: thirty six divided by five, and it averages thirty million
Speaker 6: or by four thirty million are So it's right the
Speaker 6: line what everybody else is averaging. Because all these other numbers,
Speaker 6: the one forty, the one thirty eight or whatever, they
Speaker 6: were not counting that year that wasn't guaranteed. So the
Speaker 6: fact that he got thirty eight million dollars signing bones
Speaker 6: had a lot to do with what they already owed.
Speaker 7: Them for this year.
Speaker 6: So it's not out of line. Because I saw something
Speaker 6: I think it was in the San Jose paper and
Speaker 6: they said, well, the Cowboys just screwed things up for
Speaker 6: San Francisco because they can't sign Ayuk to money like that,
Speaker 6: and they just set a precedence, and the guy didn't
Speaker 6: read inside the contract like what it really is. The
Speaker 6: other thing that wasn't pointed out with Jefferson having like
Speaker 6: the largest I didn't know this, but Minnesota has a
Speaker 6: nine percent state income tax. So take nine percent out
Speaker 6: of one forty that's eleven million dollars that he doesn't
Speaker 6: get the state gifts. So CD gets all his here
Speaker 6: in Texas, right, no state income tax.
Speaker 8: And you know the thing about these contracts, you know,
Speaker 8: I learned that back in the day. Sometimes it's just
Speaker 8: about the optics, right.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 2: You can dangle numbers out for the agent, yeah, perfect, exactly.
Speaker 8: Well, but for the team as well, because the team
Speaker 8: wants to say that they did right by their players, right,
Speaker 8: So it's the same thing.
Speaker 2: You know. You can talk about it all you want.
Speaker 8: You can flip these numbers here, and turn these numbers
Speaker 8: here and divide this and.
Speaker 2: All of that.
Speaker 8: When it comes down to it, it's just all about
Speaker 8: what looks good on paper.
Speaker 6: Seeing so many people want to say, well, if they
Speaker 6: paid them that, why didn't they do it a month ago?
Speaker 6: Well you don't know what they were asking for, that's right,
Speaker 6: And you don't know that maybe they wanted a three
Speaker 6: year deal instead of a four.
Speaker 2: Year and negotiations are negotiations.
Speaker 10: Bro take time. It takes a lot of patience this stuff.
Speaker 8: You're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars and then
Speaker 8: we're supposed to be getting it done like that. It
Speaker 8: just never happened. Although I am a bit concerned that
Speaker 8: we have two guys that we have to sign. I'm
Speaker 8: still concerned, but I'm still concerned.
Speaker 6: Yeah, of course, Well, I.
Speaker 2: Think that's just that's that's NFL football.
Speaker 6: Eventually, Dax will get done. I don't know that there's
Speaker 6: I don't want to use the word urgency, but it'll
Speaker 6: get done. And then Micah that's next year.
Speaker 9: And even Ceedy mentioned yesterday and interviews how he's like
Speaker 9: he wants to see the dact you'll get done because
Speaker 9: he wants to have that chemistry with DAK and that
Speaker 9: they're at the top of the leader ward as far
Speaker 9: as those stats, and he, you know, Ceedy even mentioned
Speaker 9: he wants Dax done as well.
Speaker 6: So right, yeah, catches last year one hundred and thirty five.
Speaker 3: I want he wants he wants one for looking think
Speaker 3: about think about I think one thing about CD.
Speaker 7: I'm happy to see him get paid because he.
Speaker 3: Spent about the last seven years getting other people paid.
Speaker 3: And that would be the quarterarterback, the quarterbacks that he
Speaker 3: has played with, going back to his time at Oklahoma,
Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield is not the first pick in the draft
Speaker 3: if he doesn't have ced Lamb that he's throwing to.
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray is not the first pick in the draft
Speaker 3: without throwing to ced Lamb. And then he had Jalen Hurtz,
Speaker 3: who wasn't the first pick in the draft. He was
Speaker 3: a second round pick, but he contributed to Jalen hurts
Speaker 3: Stock as.
Speaker 7: Well in the NFL.
Speaker 3: And then he comes to Dallas and you got Dak Prescott,
Speaker 3: who's now about to get his second contract since playing
Speaker 3: with CD Lamb.
Speaker 7: And here's the other thing about CD.
Speaker 3: If you go back and look at his time as
Speaker 3: far as being a winning football player, go back to
Speaker 3: his time and I saw this last night at Oklahoma.
Speaker 3: And here, of course he's had He's been on three
Speaker 3: straight teams that have won twelve games in the NFL
Speaker 3: his three years at Oklahoma.
Speaker 7: How many games this season did Oklahoma win twelve? They
Speaker 7: won twelve, They went twelve and two all three years so.
Speaker 10: Six has to throw in the Oklahoma No.
Speaker 2: No, but no, but seriously, it's more of a CD thing.
Speaker 7: Six six of.
Speaker 3: The last seven years. The only year that Cede Lamb
Speaker 3: did not win twelve games in a season was the
Speaker 3: COVID year in twenty twenty, when his rookie year, when
Speaker 3: the Cowboys went six and ten and they didn't have
Speaker 3: a full offseason or anything.
Speaker 6: And here's the best thing of him as a receiver.
Speaker 6: He can play all three positions. He's not just this
Speaker 6: or he's not just that. Which was the mistake I
Speaker 6: saw in the in the Mercury News. The guy said, yeah, the.
Speaker 7: San Jose News while you're reading it came up.
Speaker 6: He came up on a headline when I went to Google,
Speaker 6: and for some reason I saw it.
Speaker 2: And this will be the last time we mentioned them
Speaker 2: on this program.
Speaker 6: Right, but again, here's how shoddy reporting. They pointed out
Speaker 6: that they paid all that money for a guy that
Speaker 6: lines up in the slot. Oh wow, how do you
Speaker 6: make that mistake? He doesn't know what he's talking about. Right,
Speaker 6: That's why it's this stuff online you gotta be careful about.
Speaker 6: You just got to be careful.
Speaker 2: You missed it, Chris, that was.
Speaker 7: There's a mix shot, the mixed shot about shoddy.
Speaker 2: Reporting the San Jose. Why did you even give who
Speaker 2: still anyway out come on?
Speaker 6: Well it wasn't because they were right.
Speaker 8: There you go. But here's the thing I like about CD.
Speaker 8: It's the subtlety in his game. You know, he's a
Speaker 8: guy that there's no sense of urgency in what he does,
Speaker 8: and it's simply because he has the timing between he
Speaker 8: and his quarterback in his head. And I think that's
Speaker 8: extremely admirable. You look at him when he comes off
Speaker 8: the line of scrimmage, you wonder why he's open all
Speaker 8: the time, because if I'm looking at him as a player,
Speaker 8: I'm gonna think, oh, this guy, you know he would
Speaker 8: be easy to contact off the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2: That is not the case.
Speaker 8: He has never shown that a guy can shut him
Speaker 8: down coming off the line of scrimmage in a press position.
Speaker 8: That's something that makes him the most comfortable target for
Speaker 8: a quarterback because he can see right away that this
Speaker 8: guy didn't get jammed at the line of scrimmage and
Speaker 8: I will play, will continue because of what he did.
Speaker 2: Those kind of things are those subtle things that.
Speaker 8: You really need from a consistent combination between quarterback and
Speaker 8: wide receiver. You got to have that kind of subtlety
Speaker 8: there because they know we're coming to him, right, but
Speaker 8: yet you still can't stop it.
Speaker 3: You know why that is he's a master of his craft.
Speaker 3: He really is, true, and it really goes back to
Speaker 3: his high school days, even I mean, he has never
Speaker 3: not known success. If you go back to his high
Speaker 3: school days in Houston, his senior year, he had ninety
Speaker 3: eight catches for two thousand and thirty two yards and
Speaker 3: thirty three touchdowns. The yards is the fourth in the
Speaker 3: State of Texas history. And then without red shirt season
Speaker 3: or anything, he goes right into college and does the
Speaker 3: exact same stuff all through college, and then he goes
Speaker 3: right in as a first round draft pick in the NFL.
Speaker 7: And it's just it is arrow kicks. He used to
Speaker 7: point up.
Speaker 6: I think he was doing it in the I don't
Speaker 6: know what the league was called with junior high level
Speaker 6: when he was playing in Houston, and they had this
Speaker 6: fancy team with a bunch of guys that got ended
Speaker 6: up in the NFL or at least at Oklahoma. The
Speaker 6: safety build, the big safety from Houston. They were all
Speaker 6: on this same team. And one of the wide receivers
Speaker 6: that went to LSU because they all had moved there
Speaker 6: during Katrina.
Speaker 3: Exactly right, Yeah, because he's from Louisiana.
Speaker 6: And so and so they had this young team they
Speaker 6: were they were winning all the titles, like even national titles.
Speaker 6: So yeah, he's uh, he's been a winner. And guess
Speaker 6: what else he adds. He adds to that running back
Speaker 6: room because if you remember last year, they started lining
Speaker 6: him up in the backfield and handling the ball, pitching
Speaker 6: them the ball, and the threat of that happened takes
Speaker 6: away from what the coverage is.
Speaker 2: So are we looking for him to so about? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Right, Well, and the other thing is he he maintains
Speaker 6: he will be ready to play next Sunday, that the
Speaker 6: ramp up, they will put him through a ramp up.
Speaker 6: But that uh, you know, I don't know that he
Speaker 6: plays fifty snaps, but I think he goes out and
Speaker 6: I went back.
Speaker 3: Bet he does pay if they have fifty snaps on offense.
Speaker 7: And if they have and if they have ninety.
Speaker 3: Snaps on offense, he'll be out there for ninety snaps.
Speaker 6: This reminded me of nineteen ninety two when Michael Irvin
Speaker 6: missed the entire training camp. The Cowboys were going to
Speaker 6: open the season on Monday night against Washington. He signed
Speaker 6: his contract Thursday, right, And it was a long negotiation
Speaker 6: back and forth. Local agent Steve Endicott was Mike's agent.
Speaker 6: And how about this. It was one of the biggest
Speaker 6: contracts ever signed by the Cowboys. It was three years,
Speaker 6: three point seventy five.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 6: And they were arguing over should it be one point
Speaker 6: seventy five or one point zero? Right, And they finally
Speaker 6: met at one and a quarter a year. Mike showed
Speaker 6: up on Thursday, and they had seen him working out
Speaker 6: in pads during training camp. Here Craig James was throwing
Speaker 6: passes to him, right, and and and so when he
Speaker 6: showed up, Uh so it was Elvin Harper, Kelvin Martin.
Speaker 6: Forgot who the other Williams not yet anyway, those they
Speaker 6: had three and Jimmy goes, yeah, he's not starting, you know,
Speaker 6: he can't start. Second play of the game. He came in, yes, yes,
Speaker 6: thank you, and right, and so he ended up with
Speaker 6: five catches for eighty nine yards. With no training camp.
Speaker 6: They won the first three games in the game he
Speaker 6: gave him and each each game his catches went up
Speaker 6: for the first three games that they started the season
Speaker 6: off with a three and oh record.
Speaker 8: So as I was going to say, if you think
Speaker 8: about c the and his accomplishments and his drive, ah,
Speaker 8: he's an old school player.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And that was like he has that same work
Speaker 7: ethic that Michael had.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 6: And that was kind of Michael's breakout season because re Membory,
Speaker 6: he tore his a cl in eighty nine ninety he
Speaker 6: played half the season ninety one. He was pretty good,
Speaker 6: but that was his big breakout season. No training camp.
Speaker 6: So I still have visions of Mike rehappened with his
Speaker 6: a cl and he was living in Carrollton at that
Speaker 6: time where I was living.
Speaker 7: I'm coming bicycle story.
Speaker 6: Yeah he's heard them, but I've heard and we have
Speaker 6: different listeners. Big Mike in the middle of Trinity Mills
Speaker 6: riding his bicycle down the middle of the road. It
Speaker 6: was a scary sock.
Speaker 2: I must add.
Speaker 8: I Uh, Mike used to get on my irvis when
Speaker 8: I first met him, you know when that was that
Speaker 8: eighty nine season, and you know, it was just tough,
Speaker 8: even from the beginning, it was tough. And I just
Speaker 8: remember when he got injured and he had on a
Speaker 8: weight vest and he was bounding, just bounding, trying to
Speaker 8: work there. I'm like, damn, that looks hard. I'm like,
Speaker 8: you know that I had never seen anything like that.
Speaker 8: I mean, I've seen guys work hard. I've seen, but
Speaker 8: coming off of that injury and his determination at that time,
Speaker 8: well it went from this. I would see him in
Speaker 8: the in the Jacuzie area and he was depressed, I
Speaker 8: mean really depressed, and I remember talking to him and
Speaker 8: I don't know what I you know, we just talked,
Speaker 8: talked talking. Next thing, you know, I see him out
Speaker 8: there bounding with that weight best on, and that thing
Speaker 8: had to be.
Speaker 2: It seemed like it was close to twenty five pounds
Speaker 2: weight vest and.
Speaker 8: He was bounding off of two feet down the track
Speaker 8: in pally Rance And I'm like, man, this guy's going
Speaker 8: to be red.
Speaker 6: And then he had to have a second surgery because
Speaker 6: the scar tissue built up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he might have heard himselves, yeah get read right?
Speaker 2: Yeah all right.
Speaker 3: So I wonder when we come back here on make shots,
Speaker 3: is there room on this roster for a former four
Speaker 3: time Pro Bowl running back? What do y'all think when
Speaker 3: we come back here on mix shots.
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Speaker 3: All right, we continue now with mix shots, and as
Speaker 3: we alluded to off the top of the show, we
Speaker 3: expect news to happen after we get off the air,
Speaker 3: and Mickey specifically said noon today is when practice squad
Speaker 3: signings can occur. So we are assured that the Cowboys
Speaker 3: will have a practice squad this year, and so there
Speaker 3: will be signings that's right at noon. May not be
Speaker 3: announced at noon, but they will become official at noon.
Speaker 3: And Mickey, there are reports out there, and it's coming
Speaker 3: from a player's agent, that a certain four time Pro
Speaker 3: Bowl running back is headed here to Dallas.
Speaker 6: Are you talking about Dalvin Cook?
Speaker 7: That would be Dalvin Cook.
Speaker 6: Came in yesterday for a visit. My understanding is if
Speaker 6: he was signed, it was most likely going to be
Speaker 6: to the practice squad because he's not ready to play.
Speaker 6: No ramp up they'll have by time he gets signed.
Speaker 6: They'll have one padded practice tomorrow, they'll have one paddy
Speaker 6: practice next week and that's it. And he had no
Speaker 6: training camp, so they can put him on the practice
Speaker 6: squad and they could ramp him up and then if
Speaker 6: they want to elevate him for one game, you see
Speaker 6: how things go, you can elevate him then. But I
Speaker 6: think that's where the interest is in. I'm also told
Speaker 6: that they would welcome back Carl Lawson, the defensive end
Speaker 6: that they brought in and then released. He's another guy
Speaker 6: he's not ready to play. But if he'll sign to
Speaker 6: the practice squad, that will give him an opportunity to
Speaker 6: get in football shape.
Speaker 3: He's not ready to play a full game, right because
Speaker 3: he did play.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he played what half a dozen snaps, ten SAPs,
Speaker 6: something like that, and that's what probably determined how well
Speaker 6: he did. They were also looking at Gosh, I'm gonna
Speaker 6: forget his first name, Bowser, defensive Tyas Bowser from East Texas,
Speaker 6: Tyas Bowser, Yeah, Tias, and they were kind of interested
Speaker 6: in him. Now he hadt least been in training camp,
Speaker 6: so that'll be one that they're also interested in. But
Speaker 6: the new rule, I'm told on the practice squad, if
Speaker 6: you're a veteran guy, you used to be able to
Speaker 6: sign those guys for whatever. Now it's a twenty one
Speaker 6: thousand dollars a week maximum, So it's a little different
Speaker 6: than the young guys that are getting twelve thousand a week,
Speaker 6: which is a heck of a lot more before when
Speaker 6: they started twenty.
Speaker 3: One thousand times eighteen at three hundred and seventy eight
Speaker 3: thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 7: Not bad, huh to be a practice squad.
Speaker 3: I go out there, I go out and the blocking
Speaker 3: dumb and the weeks that you do get elevated to
Speaker 3: the varsity.
Speaker 6: You get you whatever?
Speaker 3: You get?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: So I want to go.
Speaker 10: Back to our mention of Dalvin Cook.
Speaker 9: First, it's an incredible like tenure in this in the NFL.
Speaker 10: I mean, from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty two, he.
Speaker 9: Had four back to back over one thousand yard seasons.
Speaker 9: Twenty twenty three spent time with the Jets and the Ravens.
Speaker 9: But you know there he didn't have too much playing
Speaker 9: time for.
Speaker 10: Either of those teams. I'm only seeing you know, two
Speaker 10: hundred and fourteen yards overall.
Speaker 9: But I just I think that could be an incredible
Speaker 9: match if that's the case. And like you said, he's
Speaker 9: definitely not ready as of this moment, but practice squad,
Speaker 9: I can see, you know how they can maybe what happened?
Speaker 10: Would they do there?
Speaker 2: What happened?
Speaker 6: Not sure?
Speaker 2: Injury?
Speaker 7: Shoulder surgery. He had shoulder surgery. And he feels like
Speaker 7: and that was the word before he came here.
Speaker 8: To how major was this show? I mean, how bad
Speaker 8: was it? I mean because everything changed?
Speaker 10: I mean I definitely had.
Speaker 11: Happened.
Speaker 8: Yah, he had twenty twenty two, he had over a
Speaker 8: thousand yards.
Speaker 6: Right, what happens to running backs after they get past.
Speaker 2: Twenty No, it's that not that kind of drop.
Speaker 6: How old were you when you finished thirty three? You
Speaker 6: made it to thirty three.
Speaker 8: I made it to thirty three, Okay, But with him,
Speaker 8: this drop off is significant.
Speaker 2: Significant within one year, or.
Speaker 6: Maybe he just didn't fit in to whatever the other
Speaker 6: teams were doing.
Speaker 8: He and the Jets, that was that was a disaster.
Speaker 8: Now did that have something to do with his shoulder
Speaker 8: or not?
Speaker 2: These are the questions we'll see there. You go, okay, so.
Speaker 6: Go ask the quarterback.
Speaker 2: But damn he goes from eleven hundred plus yards to.
Speaker 10: What was it to two fourteen?
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, man, that's I'm sorry.
Speaker 8: I need to know more because this guy was one
Speaker 8: of the best running backs and in the NFL at one.
Speaker 3: Point, and then he went to the Ravens at the
Speaker 3: end of the year and they actually used him in
Speaker 3: the playoffs and had eight carries for twenty three yards
Speaker 3: two point nine yards to carry in the playoffs last.
Speaker 2: Year and that was the game they lost, right yeah,
Speaker 2: Kansas City.
Speaker 8: So yeah, man, when you look at it on paper,
Speaker 8: this is a great sign.
Speaker 6: He's ready to play football and still has.
Speaker 2: Some okay once again, but it's good to.
Speaker 6: Check it out. No, it's good to check I know.
Speaker 8: All I'm saying is I'm not going to chalk this
Speaker 8: up to well, you know, running back stay after twenty
Speaker 8: nine whatever.
Speaker 2: I'm not chalking this up to that.
Speaker 8: I want to know what's wrong with what happened with
Speaker 8: this kid who had over a thousand yards in twenty
Speaker 8: twenty two.
Speaker 3: And by the way, let me correct that he did
Speaker 3: not he did not carry the ball against Kansas City.
Speaker 3: It was their playoff win against Houston. Yet he carries
Speaker 3: for twenty three yards.
Speaker 8: So yeah, you know, because we look at this potentially,
Speaker 8: potentially this could be huge. But I just want to
Speaker 8: know what happened to this young man to where showed
Speaker 8: us surgery or you know, just the whims of what
Speaker 8: happens with the NFL players comes about.
Speaker 2: I think this guy, I don't know. I look at
Speaker 2: him as.
Speaker 8: A potentially a game breaker for us, a game changer
Speaker 8: for us, potentially.
Speaker 3: That's why it's worth it's worth taking a chance on
Speaker 3: that to bring him in here. He's not taking up
Speaker 3: a roster spot right now. And then see how he
Speaker 3: looks over the course of you know, they saw how
Speaker 3: he looks in one little workout yesterday. Now we see
Speaker 3: how he looks over the course of some time and
Speaker 3: and then measure it against the others. And it also
Speaker 3: provides insurance in case you have an injury to one
Speaker 3: of your running on the roster right.
Speaker 6: Now, because they don't really well, we'll find out what
Speaker 6: practice squad insurance they would have at noon.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean other guys that they would be looking
Speaker 3: at would be Malik Davis, Royce Freeman who they had in.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't think that they would bring those two guys back.
Speaker 9: They cut the speaking of roster spots yesterday we got
Speaker 9: down to the fifty three man.
Speaker 10: How did we do on our predictions, Mickey.
Speaker 6: I think we were right on every one of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, every single It's like Mickey had a pipeline to
Speaker 3: the personnel department and knew exactly what was going to happen.
Speaker 6: I did find out a little bit of why Peyton
Speaker 6: Hendershot was going to be uh expendable, and I thought
Speaker 6: I saw it in training camp, but I didn't take
Speaker 6: the time to look. And I'm not sure what they
Speaker 6: listed his weight at, but he had gotten like into
Speaker 6: two twenties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a more slender tight end anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 3: any battle injury problems here and even in training camp
Speaker 3: he was.
Speaker 6: So they were looking for different dimensions in in in
Speaker 6: that fourth well, the third and fourth guy, well John Steven,
Speaker 6: he gave him a different dimension. He's down the seam,
Speaker 6: uh kind of former wide receiver that's a tight end.
Speaker 6: And then with uh spawn Ford, he's more of a
Speaker 6: prototype tight end. They really liked what he's.
Speaker 7: Six six and a half two hundred and sixty pounds.
Speaker 2: As a rookie going to take over the world. Yeah right,
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, man, these guys are studs.
Speaker 3: Well take think about the teams that made it deep
Speaker 3: in the playoffs last.
Speaker 7: Year and what they had at tight end.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Think about the two Super Bowl teams Kelsey and Kittle there.
Speaker 2: And the ones that didn't make it. Yeah, I mean, yeah, Andrews.
Speaker 6: That's where all the power forwards in the NBA, right
Speaker 6: there is the NFL.
Speaker 7: Tight end at Detroit and Detroit.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so that was one reason that they they were
Speaker 6: getting calls I understand about him. So instead of releasing him,
Speaker 6: they got a future the.
Speaker 8: Guy that I mentioned that did we talk about him?
Speaker 8: The one that I thought looked good? But you say
Speaker 8: it was a form of fullback Princeton, that's fair.
Speaker 6: I bet he'll he'll be a practice I got because
Speaker 6: they kept forward tight ends.
Speaker 9: Yes, kept obviously Ferguson schoonmaker John Stevens, and then Brevian
Speaker 9: Spanford out of Minnesota.
Speaker 10: So that the guy.
Speaker 9: Who he's like six six six and a half two, Yeah,
Speaker 9: he's the big one, and they.
Speaker 6: Kept four running backs as we sort of predicted.
Speaker 7: Well, three running backs in a fullback, right, yeah, well
Speaker 7: who's also can do them all?
Speaker 2: Guy? Right?
Speaker 3: He had so Actually, they have five tight end types
Speaker 3: on their roster, including.
Speaker 6: So I shouldn't say they got ten. Ten defensive batt
Speaker 6: also means they.
Speaker 7: Have four quarterbacks on the roster because I think if
Speaker 7: you could.
Speaker 2: Put a quarterback stop stop stopping.
Speaker 10: I like that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, duces back in the mixer, you know, I like
Speaker 9: seeing how they may.
Speaker 10: End up utilizing him.
Speaker 6: They show him.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean it looked it was kind of fifty
Speaker 9: to fifty at that point, you know, at the end
Speaker 9: of training camp.
Speaker 10: But I like how you know he's here.
Speaker 6: Offensive line was going to either be WI Let's go
Speaker 6: or ball. They chose w Let's go. Ball's got released.
Speaker 6: And I mean linebackers, we we about had it with
Speaker 6: Buddy Johnson. They're keeping him.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 6: They also on the defensive line made room for Lynnville Joseph,
Speaker 6: so they signed him to a one year deal. Another
Speaker 6: thirty six years old?
Speaker 5: Is that what I saw?
Speaker 2: Two old guys. We had two old guys.
Speaker 6: Now I worry about getting old.
Speaker 7: He'll turn thirty six in October.
Speaker 2: I think, Okay, that's why they probably limit the plays.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they'll play rotation games.
Speaker 6: And by the way, it got reported that he signed
Speaker 6: one year of four million. It can be four million, okay,
Speaker 6: up to the base is two million. So uh, you know,
Speaker 6: it's another guy that you take a look see.
Speaker 3: And and it's a long season.
Speaker 6: Especially for nose tackles, right, so they needed some experience
Speaker 6: behind Mazzi. It's not like they're saying, Okay, Mozzie can't
Speaker 6: do it. They're still he's still the starter. But this
Speaker 6: guy will add some experience and bulk.
Speaker 2: By the way, you.
Speaker 8: Know, I must admit I was a little bit of
Speaker 8: remissing watching preseason games of any team.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 8: And I finally saw a kickoff.
Speaker 6: No wait, let me get it went to the twenty eight.
Speaker 8: Yard Well no, no, they downed it. It was the
Speaker 8: back of the end zone. Right, So these are the
Speaker 8: criterias for kickoff.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 8: Obviously if you're catching the back of the end zone,
Speaker 8: they still don't want to return it.
Speaker 2: They feel like that messes up.
Speaker 6: Come out to the thirty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it does, but I mean running it out.
Speaker 6: Yeah that's what I'm saying. Yeah, I might as well
Speaker 6: just take it at the thirty right.
Speaker 8: Right, So they don't like doing that, so they don't
Speaker 8: like bring it out like if you're at the back
Speaker 8: of the end zone.
Speaker 2: They don't like bringing that out so much.
Speaker 3: So there was talk, and I think they still have
Speaker 3: time to do this. I don't think anything has been
Speaker 3: decided for sure about this, although they did have a
Speaker 3: special owners meeting this week and maybe maybe they passed
Speaker 3: on this idea because the rule right now is if
Speaker 3: you kick the ball into the end zone on the fly,
Speaker 3: it comes.
Speaker 7: Out to the thirty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well when you, as Mickey said, the twenty eight
Speaker 3: yard line, what the average starting position on all the
Speaker 3: after every kickoff is basically the twenty eight and a
Speaker 3: half yard line, And so if they're trying to encourage
Speaker 3: more kickoffs, then there was a thought amongst the coaches
Speaker 3: that okay, how about we bring it instead. You bring
Speaker 3: instead of bringing out to the thirty, bring it out
Speaker 3: to the thirty five yard line, and that would keep
Speaker 3: teams from kicking into the end zone as much, and
Speaker 3: so which would encourage more kick because you might as well,
Speaker 3: if the average is they're getting out to the twenty eight,
Speaker 3: well just don't risk that someone could break one on
Speaker 3: and just.
Speaker 7: What's two yards? Well, think seven yards is a little different.
Speaker 6: Think if you're kicking to Cavante Turpin, you want to
Speaker 6: take the chance you're going to tackle them, or you
Speaker 6: want to just put the ball to thirty yard line.
Speaker 3: But the ideal thing is is that you bounce it
Speaker 3: into the end zone. If it lands in the landing
Speaker 3: zone between the goal line and the twenty and then
Speaker 3: goes through the end zone, it comes out to the
Speaker 3: twenty yard line.
Speaker 7: We saw that in the gain the other day.
Speaker 2: Okay, I did not know that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, did you notice that at some points in that
Speaker 6: game the referees didn't know The officials didn't know where
Speaker 6: that ball was going, and the team didn't either.
Speaker 3: They that was after they were experimenting with a six
Speaker 3: man crew too.
Speaker 7: That what they did in that they I think every
Speaker 7: game they did this across the league.
Speaker 3: The third preseason game they the officials experiment with, Okay,
Speaker 3: what if during the regular season one of our officials
Speaker 3: went down with an injury and so they had like
Speaker 3: the in this case, it was the down judge who
Speaker 3: was during the course of the game promoted a referee.
Speaker 3: So he's got to make all the calls on all
Speaker 3: the decision.
Speaker 5: Makes I think it's gonna be an injury, but to
Speaker 5: because I mean, there's.
Speaker 7: But just in case. No, it's just that that's their chance.
Speaker 3: That's their chance to give reps to someone who if
Speaker 3: an emergency situation got thrown into having to announce on
Speaker 3: national television.
Speaker 6: So and by the I was going to say, by
Speaker 6: the way, on the on the roster, so CD gets
Speaker 6: a roster exemption. I think it can be up to
Speaker 6: two games, so he doesn't count against the fifty three.
Speaker 3: But if he's playing the GAMEE what I'm saying, Yeah, well,
Speaker 3: obviously you don't get an exemption.
Speaker 2: I was thinking, like, whoa he really?
Speaker 6: They also dron Bland had his surgery uh the other day,
Speaker 6: so uh, and they put him on IR recall. So
Speaker 6: you had the ability for the fifty three to put
Speaker 6: two guys on IR recall, so he's one of them.
Speaker 8: Is this an injury that could affect his ability to
Speaker 8: cover after?
Speaker 6: Well, you get over it, because you've had this before
Speaker 6: I had it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's why I'm asking for real, because you know.
Speaker 6: I didn't have to cover.
Speaker 2: This guy's got a back.
Speaker 6: But it's a it's a it's your fifth minute tarsl.
Speaker 6: So it's the bone that goes into your little toe, which.
Speaker 2: Tell me anything, what do you mean? I'm just trying
Speaker 2: to figure out what kind of problems will he What.
Speaker 10: Can we expect when he comes back?
Speaker 2: Right right?
Speaker 6: It's not last.
Speaker 7: It has to heal though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course we know these things. I mean, after all.
Speaker 7: That, so he would have a problem until it heals.
Speaker 6: The one, the one you should ask about is that.
Speaker 6: So it's it's it's the variation of a high ankle
Speaker 6: spring that a doga suffered. And so basically what that
Speaker 6: what happens is the fibula and tibia separate and they're
Speaker 6: supposed to be together. Yeah, so they have this surgery,
Speaker 6: it's called a rope surgery. They kind of tie it
Speaker 6: together to get the bones back to no space between them.
Speaker 8: You seem very proud of the fact that you know that,
Speaker 8: you very proud.
Speaker 6: I just put extra for you.
Speaker 3: And when you had the fractured fifth metatarsal, you were
Speaker 3: out how long?
Speaker 6: Three months?
Speaker 7: Three months? He's going to be out three weeks. He'll
Speaker 7: be back.
Speaker 6: That's what they told me. If I was a professional athlete.
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Speaker 3: All Right, our final few minutes of Mixed Shots and
Speaker 3: we recon.
Speaker 7: Be next week.
Speaker 3: Right, It's like Tuesday after Labor Day noon?
Speaker 6: Is that right? Chris? I got it?
Speaker 7: I got to noon during the regular season.
Speaker 3: All right, Mickey, what shall we talk about here in
Speaker 3: this last segment of the preseason.
Speaker 6: Let's pick a position the Cowboys probably are zeroing in
Speaker 6: on to upgrade. Are still need to upgrade going forward?
Speaker 9: I'm thinking if we're looking at defensive ends right now,
Speaker 9: so far Michael Parsons, DeMarcus Lawrence, Marshawn Neeland, and then
Speaker 9: Tyris Wheat, but obviously Sam Williams going down in training
Speaker 9: camp this year. I think that's still a position that
Speaker 9: the Cowboys need to be paying attention to.
Speaker 6: Well, think about what happens if you put Parsons at linebacker.
Speaker 6: So you've got DeMarcus Lawrence Kneelan, DeMarcus Lawrence Goldston, h
Speaker 6: Tyrus Wheat. I forgot about yeah, because they moved him
Speaker 6: basically back to defensive and they cut forj Hooko. So yeah,
Speaker 6: it's a little thin there.
Speaker 7: He got placed on I R didn't he?
Speaker 6: I believe he did?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 6: Or released injured?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we waved injured, which typic. Typically they that leads
Speaker 3: you to going on the injured reserve unless there's an
Speaker 3: injury settlement, which could happen. So, and the other thing
Speaker 3: at defensive end is al quad and Muhammad is on
Speaker 3: the suspended list for one week. He still has one
Speaker 3: more game to serve on his six games suspended.
Speaker 8: How how was the situation would go off to defensive
Speaker 8: ends for the for the preseason?
Speaker 7: Did we none?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 8: I just remember the pressure your words, and.
Speaker 2: That's what I don't.
Speaker 6: But then Lawrence wasn't playing, Parsons wasn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but damn, we got these young guys out there, man.
Speaker 7: That's why it's a problem. Area that the ling played.
Speaker 3: But then at a certain point. But at a certain
Speaker 3: point Kneeland didn't play right because now, okay, we can't
Speaker 3: afford to lose Kneeling, We've already lost Sam Williams. Yeah,
Speaker 3: protect him and put him in bubble wrap.
Speaker 8: You know, if you if you have some young guys
Speaker 8: on the squad, I mean I know. The first thing
Speaker 8: Michael Downs thought about was making good reads and of
Speaker 8: course playing well on special teams.
Speaker 2: That was when he first came to the Cowboys. That's
Speaker 2: what he was doing.
Speaker 8: They were gonna put me in their free safety is
Speaker 8: gonna make some play, its gonna make some tackles. When
Speaker 8: I got there, my whole thing was out. I got
Speaker 8: to make interceptions. That's the only way I'm going to
Speaker 8: be noticed. So as a defensive end, you got no
Speaker 8: pressure from from any of the young guys.
Speaker 6: They really didn't come on.
Speaker 2: Man, So do you have who are these guys that
Speaker 2: we signed?
Speaker 6: You have a position you're worried about?
Speaker 2: Defensive end?
Speaker 6: Oh you too?
Speaker 2: Yes, brought me up on this.
Speaker 3: And Carl Lawson is a guy that they cut yesterday.
Speaker 3: That sounds like they're gonna he's welcome to come back
Speaker 3: on the practice squad unless off Yeah.
Speaker 2: And so it sounds like we're settling.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, they're looking.
Speaker 8: Okay, because man, you gotta have a defensive end. That's
Speaker 8: gonna make us sad.
Speaker 6: Trade for Charles Hayley.
Speaker 2: Man, Charles could come out right now, Well, I don't
Speaker 2: know he's.
Speaker 3: And the other other well, it's your swing tackle on offense.
Speaker 3: I mean, uh, if Tyler, if Tyler Goyton weren't able
Speaker 3: to play for some reason, or for that matter, Terrence Steele.
Speaker 3: On the other side, you've got Matt will let's go,
Speaker 3: who's a right tackle. And you got Awesome Richards who
Speaker 3: has played at left tackle in the preseason and we
Speaker 3: also played some guard. They have to be scouring the
Speaker 3: countryside looking for.
Speaker 7: Because the injury just put him in that position.
Speaker 10: Can you remind me how long he is out for.
Speaker 7: It was toe injury that it was.
Speaker 6: I was told probably till Thanksgiving, damn.
Speaker 7: And he did have surgery.
Speaker 6: Well with surgery, yeah, okay, it ruined Deon Sander's career. Yeah,
Speaker 6: that was kind of the same thing. Foreign ligaments. Yeah,
Speaker 6: mine would be who's the fourth corner now that blands
Speaker 6: out for six to eight weeks? Now two weeks will
Speaker 6: be leading up. So four games probably got Lewis Diggs
Speaker 6: and then the next guy up would probably be Andrew Booth,
Speaker 6: who it was the second round draft choice of Minnesota
Speaker 6: and they traded him for Nashan Right, So I think
Speaker 6: they got to keep looking there because you're one injury
Speaker 6: away from that guy playing. No, he's there, but he's
Speaker 6: kind of I talked to him and he said he no,
Speaker 6: one's talked to him about moving the corner. He's a safety.
Speaker 6: He'll play the nickel for you, but that's it. If
Speaker 6: it's an outside guy, it's Booth. What about Belle safety
Speaker 6: and Jannier Thomas can go in the slot. I told
Speaker 6: you on the dime we talked about that. So that's
Speaker 6: what I think they're looking at.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 6: We'll see what happens going forward. Looking at the waiver wire.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to look at the waiver wire right now,
Speaker 3: but it's going to be interesting to see what happens.
Speaker 3: There's there are players who made the team yesterday. He's
Speaker 3: breathing this sigh of relief, and they calling homes and.
Speaker 6: Mom made the t don't buy a house.
Speaker 3: Across the league, it's like that and then they're finding
Speaker 3: out today and no need to sign this guy over here,
Speaker 3: and so we're gonna.
Speaker 2: That's not cool. Yeah, back in the day when it
Speaker 2: was done, it was done.
Speaker 3: But having said that, and I went back and looked
Speaker 3: at it from last year, and it gets back to
Speaker 3: how long a season it is and how.
Speaker 7: Many players you use.
Speaker 3: There were all but five players that were on the
Speaker 3: roster the last preseason game last year that were playing
Speaker 3: in the NFL in some capacity, either on a practice
Speaker 3: squad or the regular roster.
Speaker 7: Throughout the year.
Speaker 3: So we talk about how these preseason games aren't worth watching. Well,
Speaker 3: all these players that are playing in these preseason games are.
Speaker 7: Going to be on an NFL roster. That's the way
Speaker 7: things have changed in the league.
Speaker 6: So do we bid a dude to one of our party?
Speaker 2: We bid? Yeah, I did. Yeah.
Speaker 9: But you know what, I'm going to give Everson this
Speaker 9: read sheet because you're going to have to start.
Speaker 2: Practicing with yesterday.
Speaker 10: I need ever to take something.
Speaker 6: She promoted you to do. The reads I got practice.
Speaker 6: You better step your this is your homework.
Speaker 7: We need we need to thank uh Savannah.
Speaker 6: Savannah her diligent work joining us. Okay, brought a smile
Speaker 6: to the show, brought some knowledge and got better as
Speaker 6: the season went on.
Speaker 2: And the difficult last name.
Speaker 10: There you go.
Speaker 6: Okay, after all, got.
Speaker 2: Me and n Savannah Georgia.
Speaker 10: That's it, I know.
Speaker 9: But I'm so thankful for you guys, thankful for Mickey
Speaker 9: for having me on. And I'm not going too far away,
Speaker 9: still be.
Speaker 2: Around on good, oh good, excellent, excellent.
Speaker 6: Well, thanks for your help. So if it was up
Speaker 6: to me, throw it in my last yeah.
Speaker 3: All right, okay, And so next Tuesday at noon, okay,
Speaker 3: the regular season grind begins.
Speaker 6: It's an off day for the players, so we are
Speaker 6: we every day next week?
Speaker 3: So all right, So that does it for the off
Speaker 3: season and preseason edition for mix Shots. Bill Jones, Everson Walls,
Speaker 3: Mickey Spagnola, and the great Savannah thanks.
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