WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Recapping the Scrimmage 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:12.600 The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:24.800 and the Dallas Cowboys football clubs. Are you ready for 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:28.520 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:32.839 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:38.200 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:43.320 Were with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:47.600 Derek Eagleton. It is Monday, August fifth, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:49.960 episode number twenty. Welcome to another edition of The Break. 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:54.160 We're life on Hottar, California right Sunday morning, Monday morning, 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:56.360 and the Cowboys have the day off. They will be 0:00:57.040 --> 0:00:59.800 chilling the day. They'll be back at practice tomorrow tomorrow 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:02.680 at three thirty their normal time. They got a week 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:05.800 of practice Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday this week, and then on 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:09.000 Friday they head off for their first preseason game against 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:12.280 the San Francisco forty nine ers. Before that, though, yesterday, 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:15.319 they had their Blue White scrimmage. Some interesting moments from 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:17.199 that day. We'll go around the table in a little 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:19.240 bit and get some observations from these guys of things 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:21.440 that they saw, things you guys should be aware of. 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:24.200 We'll also talk a little bit about some injuries. There's 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:26.959 some pretty high profile names that if that are on 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:29.000 the injury report. Now we'll talk about how important those 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:32.040 injuries are and the status of those guys. And then 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:34.720 we're gonna get into the defensive backs, which I believe 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:37.200 has been the best unit so far out here at 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.040 training camp in my opinion. We'll talk about the cornerbacks 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:43.760 and the safeties and get some opinions on that where 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:47.080 those two positions are as far as positions and starters 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:51.440 and in depth. How's everybody feeling this morning? I feel great. Great, 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:54.480 It's Monday, and we don't really have to work as 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:56.600 hard as we usually do, and that's an awesome way 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:58.280 to start the week. And mind, you feel great because 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:02.400 of SODA's soda? Like, have you like energized? Soda has 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:06.800 me hungry? Um, but hey, I weighed myself this morning. 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:09.920 I'm down seven pounds since I started. So yeah, that's 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:12.000 what I'm talking about. For those of you don't know 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:14.960 what soda is, it's a weight loss program that you guys, 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.399 You and Brian are, yeah, me and the big guy. Yeah, 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:21.360 he's down twenty five so h yeah. Amber was supposed 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:22.840 to be on it and I didn't even want to 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:25.320 mention that she was liked. I got on the scale 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:29.200 and I've gained because you're not following the diet. I 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:33.560 a diet, that's part of the whole thing. Yeah, you 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:35.720 don't need it first, but say I'm working out more. 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:38.920 So when you worked out more, it's a muscle. So 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:40.200 you got a gain weight when you hit. When you 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:44.760 get muscle, right, I hope it's a muscles up. Oh yeah, 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:47.720 I'm out on diet and work out. We're just trying 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:49.839 to get you right, like we gotta get you right. 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:52.440 I felt a bud for Cody Wickman. What kind of 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.400 calf injury? And you know what that feels like? You 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:58.440 said something the doctor said, are meaning the Some of 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:00.679 the coaches were saying they could linker a whole week. 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:05.000 It's like a whole week shot three months. For those 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:08.839 who don't know Nick, Well, I'm sure he's treatment. Yeah, 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.600 you on the head. You just like limping around and complaining, 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:15.280 yeah instead of actually getting treatment. Dam all right, starting 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:20.840 it off very simple. No, it's not me. He needs 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:23.000 treatment and he doesn't get it. That's a good point. 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:26.360 It's fair. I've been to the emergency room three times 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:28.880 since this whole thing. So no, I've had plenty of treatment. 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:31.320 It's all good. All right, Let's talk about some of 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:33.880 these uh some stuff around the Cowboys. Let's start with 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:36.840 the blanket coverage. I have one question for you guys today. 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:40.960 Rod Marnelly said about the defensive depth. There's not a 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:43.200 lot of defensive line depth. I'm sorry, there's not a 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:45.520 lot of difference between first, second, and third with some 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:49.120 of these guys. Of the depth guys. Blank has had 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:52.520 a better camp of the of the guys that are 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:55.160 not the starting type players, the guys that are lower 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:58.640 than that. I'll throw a couple of names for you. Armstrong, Hill, Jolks, 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:02.600 Covington talk, Oh, Wise, gotcha give me give me a 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:04.160 name of a guy that you think is at the 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:07.920 best camp of those kinds of guys. Wow, best camp 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:13.440 is obviously Don's Armstrong. Absolutely, yeah. I think that's the 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:15.680 answer to that. But if we're gonna go to the 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:18.920 next way, Daniel Wise has been really good and Jock 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:20.720 says too. I know Jokes is a guy I talk 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:22.960 about a lot, But both of those Wise I think 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:25.640 I feel like they're not that far off from each other. 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:28.040 I think Wise is a guy that they it's like 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:31.360 a young like Tyrone Crawford in training because he can 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.560 play everything. I mean, you see him on the end, 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:36.960 you see him a tackle. I think he could probably 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:40.800 get into a one technique. He's I just think he's 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:43.600 he's a versatile player that they had him coming off 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.240 the edge a couple of days ago. Joe Jackson is 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:50.559 another one who actually he hasn't had this amazing camp, 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:52.520 but they let him tackle out there yesterday and all 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:54.000 of a sudden, he was all over the place. So 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:56.000 I mean that it's a cliche, but it's a very 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:58.080 real thing. You know, some of these guys need the 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:00.920 contact aspect to really kind to show their game. And 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:03.720 maybe Joe Jackson's one of them because he looked good yesterday. Yeah, 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:05.520 or take a step back, because that's the other thing. 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:07.200 When you start hitting and then you got you see 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.160 a little bit more about what they can do, especially 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:11.320 offensive guys as far as being hitting out I meaning 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:13.240 on the ball, all those kinds of and there's like 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:15.520 they've said, I mean, there is something to it, because 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:18.440 when you get to the NFL and you practice all 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:21.240 summer and what's one hundred, what's fifty percent? Like I 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:24.320 don't know what you tyrants fifty percent? What's my fifty percent? 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:27.279 But when you get to a game or practice like 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:30.320 this and you're like, just tackle, it's everyone's one hundred percent. 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:33.239 So it doesn't matter because that's where most fights happen 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:36.320 at practice. It's a guy that hits harder than he's 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:38.360 supposed to and they're like, wait, and now you hit 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:40.400 my guy. It's a cheap shot, and now you start fighting. 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:42.320 You get to a game and it's just like it's 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:44.360 all in, let's go. That's also why you know you 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:46.320 have these teams that Cowboys used to this where you 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:48.560 pull two teams together to practice during training camp. I 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:51.000 think that's a recipe before disaster because if you've been 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:54.320 practicing at one level, like your team, you know kind 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:55.919 of how hard you hit, and you know how fast 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:58.080 you're going, some of it's not on the same page, 0:05:58.120 --> 0:05:59.560 and the other team might be. They might be going 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:01.320 all out and you, and then all of a sudden, 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:03.680 you have that collision of these two different mindsets and 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:06.280 then guys take personal, take it personal, and then they 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:09.120 really don't care about it. Their George chuns exactly like 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:12.000 you just we will hit him hard. Yeah, so I've 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:14.520 been terrible every time I've ever seen it. I mean 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:17.760 Chargers and we went to San Diego. That was just 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:21.119 a fight fest. Denver flows out Adam ripped his helmet 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:23.760 off and threw it and and basically hit a player 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.799 in the head with it. Um I hear the Raider 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:31.160 thing like that was Yeah, Raiders and Rams like malice 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:34.040 at the Palace and it's terrible. Yeah, that's crazy. But 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:36.000 I saw this one on the NFL network. There are 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.440 several teams a day they're starting practices with each other, 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:40.920 and I was just like, good for them. I'm I'm 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:44.640 glad that. I don't know why I always laugh about 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:47.320 it's an inside joke. When the Rams walked out the 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:50.680 practice that day. Day was so mad at those people. 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:54.840 Were people just their their version of us. They just 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:57.800 walked out on their their media team rubbed me the 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:00.719 wrong way. And it was weird because Dave, that was 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:03.440 a point where your first second, thirty year, third year, 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.560 and he was, you know, nothing really gets David like rattle. Yeah, 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:09.520 that's wondered, like this guy's just walked out and that 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:12.600 it was like our group, you know, but they come 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:16.680 out like what we got here? They just were they 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:18.360 were kind of acting like they owned the place. I 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:20.920 was like, who the hell are y'all? Oh man, that 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:25.680 would have been funny if you first time I've seen you, 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.280 because he's always the guy that's like, doesn't really matter, 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:31.320 like calm down, who cares? You know, which is true, 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:33.720 which is a good attitude. But that particular day, those 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:37.200 rams wasn't having it. Should have been in there helping 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:40.480 my guys. Yeah I didn't, though I don't know what 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:43.640 how much help I would have been. Let's talk some injuries. 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:45.320 There are a couple of guys that have popped on 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:48.280 the injury report this weekend while we weren't doing shows 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:50.240 or want to catch up on Zach Martin and Mark 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:53.000 Cooper to be exact, and then also just for kicks, 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:55.320 give me an update if you have one on shout Lee. 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:58.880 Start first with Zach Martin. What are we hearing about him? Um? 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:02.280 I think here and that it's enough for him to rest, 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:04.200 you know, I mean, he's an injury, he got a 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:06.960 back injury, and he's you know, I just think it's 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:10.920 a situation where he's had something in the in the summer, 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:12.920 or this isn't the first time he's had a little 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:16.400 irritation there, so this might be a manage a thing 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:19.080 they have to manage, which is good. It's a thing. 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:21.440 It's a thing they're gonna have to manage. It's just 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:23.480 just it just is. It's a back problem for an 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:27.040 offensive lineman like you. Your whole the whole position is 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:29.800 about like leveraging your body and having people push back 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:32.360 against you, like that's gonna hurt your back when you 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:34.839 sit down, which is literally I'm not saying sit but 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:38.120 I'm saying when you when when guy's rushing an interior lineman. 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:40.079 The point is they want to basically get to a 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:41.760 point where they get a stalemate, and they just have 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:45.120 this guy. The nature of that is your back is 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:49.200 arched and you're being bent backwards. So it's that's there's 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:51.480 no way around to be good. YEA. Luckily, you know 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:53.720 from the MRI it sounds it's not a big deal. 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:56.560 It's not like this herniated disc or some major problem. 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:59.880 It's just an irritation. But you know, every time he 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:04.080 plays his position, it's probably gonna get irritated. Luckily, he's 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:07.560 one of the toughest mofos around, so I have no 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:10.839 doubt he can fight through that, but it's just probably 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.200 gonna be something he has to manage. But how much 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:15.880 does that concern you? Knowing that again, talking about the 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.280 fact that every play that's probably gonna be something that's 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:21.040 gonna happen to him. And when you start talking about 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:25.040 a full season, his availability, his effectiveness, We've seen other 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:27.400 guys with back injuries. Do you think he'll be as 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:29.559 good as he has always been or do you think 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:32.320 this affects him just knowing that that irritation is there 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:34.120 and it may not be anything they can really do 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:36.440 about it. Both. I think he'll be as good as 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:38.120 he's been, and I think it will affect him. I 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:40.120 think he's that type of guy. I also think the 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:41.920 next time he hits any one, they'll be wearing a 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:45.200 Giants jersey. That's what There's no point putting him out here. 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:49.760 How many times did Jerry mentioned the word the giant Giants? Yeah, 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:53.040 he's mentioned a few times. Yeah, I mean the Giants. 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:57.280 Oh it was another injury Cooper. Yeah, he said He's like, 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.600 if we were lacing up doctor Jerry, you know, if 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:01.959 we were to play the Giants, he'd be out there. 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:04.839 But what's you know, why risk him transitioned right into 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:08.280 your Cooper, which I'm Mariy Cooper's fine. He's he's fine. 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:12.160 He bruised his heel, and again it's Oxnard. He's a 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:16.160 Marii Cooper. Let's not be silly. He's fine. I'm very 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:18.920 confident about that. So you know, he might be out 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:22.160 there tomorrow. He might not be, but he's fine. But 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:24.719 whether he's out there or not, the the idea is 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:27.000 that he's fine. It's just mean he's not out there. 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:28.360 They're just not put him out, you know what they're 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.040 really going on here, right, But I mean we've been 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:33.760 hearing about how small this plane is from Dallas, I 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:37.439 mean from Oxnard to San Francisco, trying to get some guys. Yeah, 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:38.960 if guys are kind of banked up, they're like, okay, 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:40.959 you're not playing in the game. You stay back, you 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:43.600 stay back there. They're just working on the itinerary if 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:49.400 I'm smart. Honestly, Sean Lee dinged his MCL He says 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.959 he feels good, he's progressing well. Um, he's working through 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:55.640 his rehab. He doesn't know when he'll be back. It's 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:58.040 like we talked about, it's probably one of those things 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:01.160 where if there was a game on Sunday, it would 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:03.120 probably be a different story. But again, why are you 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:05.840 a thirty two year old veteran with an injury history. 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:08.920 Why are you trying to rush him through? Just be patient. Um, 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:12.079 I'm curious to see when we see him again, because 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:15.800 I don't know the answer to that. Injury provides opportunity, 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:19.600 That's what I always say. And uh, basically just giving 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:22.360 these young linebackers a chance to do something. Luke Gifford's 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:24.800 a guy that gets to do some things there a linebacker. 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:28.120 I think he's making making some plays just since they 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:29.880 were they were able to have a little bit more 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:32.760 contact yesterday. Was there a guy a linebacker that that 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:34.959 maybe stood out to you a little bit when we 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:38.719 talk about opportunity, you know? Not not really. I don't 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.280 think that they those guys did a lot. Maybe Brian 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:44.280 Scott Scott's eye has you know, some linebackers there. I 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:46.959 haven't seen that yet, but I will say this, I 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:49.840 think linebacker is a position that is a little bit 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:52.720 It's not as deep as you think it is because 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:57.000 it's very top heavy. But after two, I really just two. 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:00.120 The questions start at three. The questions start with on 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.800 Lee's hell, then after that, who Who's Who's a lot 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.400 to make the team? Oh see, I think I feel 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:07.880 pretty differently about that. I think Joe Thomas is a 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:11.320 lot to make the team. Vers I forget him every 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:13.360 single time he's on the roster. I just forget he's 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:15.439 on the team, which I don't know why. Well, it's 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:17.400 fair because there's not omous there's not a lot of 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:20.640 snaps for him. But like he's a solid he is 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:23.199 a solid player. I remember me of Durant like in 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:25.839 that way, like he's just a solid guy, not a 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:29.760 great guy. Is the number get out of the forties? 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.320 I can't. I can't take you seriously, And I don't 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:34.240 know why. I don't know why. That's stupid. That's a 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:39.680 dumb Is there any good linebacker in the NFL? That's Jones? 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:43.720 He's a boss? Yeah, he is a cockl. Yeah, Devin 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.400 White LSU also going to be a boss in the forties, 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:49.080 just saying LBU. He's just gonna run off the LSU guys. 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:53.760 Um no, I will, I mean, no, let's keep it 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:56.480 on the tracks because I think I think justin march 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:59.720 Lowar's a lot to make this team, a lot a lot. 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.000 He has been good out here. Did you see his 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.000 one handed interception the other day? It was great. He 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:06.880 made an awesome play. He can play multiple positions. He's 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.640 a special teams guy. He's a Garrett type of guy, 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.280 just a you know, good attitude, good dude. I mean, 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:16.040 you know you can't. I can't definitively say Locke because 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:18.319 it's the NFL. Dan Bailey got cut last year. But 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:22.640 what do I think of five or six? I guarantee 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:25.880 you six and I think seven. Maybe. Yeah, they love 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:29.360 they love linebackers because that's who does the heavy lifting 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:33.360 at special teams. Sean Lee's got an injury history, all 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:35.440 that good stuff. So if you're right, really there's only 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:38.320 one spot, one to two spots left for the other guys, 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:40.640 because I think they already think that those five five 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:44.400 are here. And then you're looking at Luke Gifford, looking 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:48.559 Chris Covington. Um, you know, Nate Hall has done some stuff. 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:49.839 I don't know if I'm ready to put him on 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:52.800 the team, but there's Yeah, it's kind of an open 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:55.440 competition between a bunch of those young, cheap guys. Ye, 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:58.520 but I think I think Gifford is the guy. The 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:02.080 next guy there. I mean, I think he's guy right now. 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:04.160 I think he's you know, and we talked about him. 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:05.400 It's like, what do you gotta do. All you gotta 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:08.160 do is really be better than Chris Covington or maybe 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:11.199 Justin Marshallelard. But I feel I feel like you keeps six. 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:14.360 I just feel, you know, right now, in August fifth, 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:17.120 I'll be surprised if Justin Marshall Lollard isn't on the team. 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:19.720 All right, let's take our let's take our first break. 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:21.920 When we come back, we're gonna get into some observations 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:24.560 from the Blue White scrimmage that happened yesterday afternoon. Really 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:26.960 fun time. These guys will tell us what they saw, 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:28.800 some things that stood out to them, so that when 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:30.560 we come right back. 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It is day I think 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:43.080 like nine or something. I'm so lost, well I even 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:44.840 know what day of the week it is. Yesterday was 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:48.960 practice eighth, makes this is probably day twelves, the halfway day. 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:51.600 Oh yeah, like it's we're you know, like we're up 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:53.440 at the top of the hill if this is you know, 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:55.680 the roller coaster, and we're about to go down real 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:58.680 fast because we got an off day. There's there's two 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:01.520 travel days in the next five, there's a game, and 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:03.520 then all of a sudden, we're hopping a plane to 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:07.240 Hawaii and going back to Dallas. Yes, I'm mixed, I'm excited. 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:10.000 I feel like we've been here forever. Yeah, all right, 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:12.760 let's let's get into some observations from the Blue White scrimmage. 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:14.440 Why want you guys to tell me some things. We'll 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:16.080 go around the table. Tell me some things you saw 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:18.600 yesterday that you thought were really, really interesting. Nick, let's 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:21.880 start with you. Yeah, number one, I'd like to change 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:23.720 the word and not call it a scrimmage anymore. But 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:27.480 it's a scrimmage, Nick, Okay, Um, just just a few 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:31.119 plays of tackling out there. But sorry, I do that 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:34.880 after the fact. I get all your promotions him nitpicking 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:38.080 right now, because that's always Nick though. Well, everyone's like, 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:40.840 where's the scrimmage start. I'm like, it is starting. It's 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:43.400 just tackling, so stop. It's not like a kickoff. There's 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:46.240 no heads tails or whatever. But we call it a scrimmage, 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:50.320 all right. Anyways, um, there were some some tackling going on. 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.920 I thought the running backs, Um, I thought a Jordan Chun, 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:57.520 that's a thing. Now I think he's a guy. Jamaine's 0:17:57.520 --> 0:17:59.280 all the Walley was supposed to be the thumper back. 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:01.480 That's not happen and we don't see that happen. And 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:04.560 Jordan Chun, I think, is the one taking the most 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:08.600 advantage of Zeke not being here, because Tony Pollard is 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:10.399 going to do what he does and that's good, and 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:12.639 Webber did some nice things too, But I think Jordan 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:16.440 Chun is a guy. He's a big, powerful back, and 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:18.479 I think he's making a difference. You know. That's interesting. 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:21.040 I actually thought that Pollard was the guy who's making 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:23.640 the most of it, because when we first started camp, 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:26.120 it seemed like the first team reps are pretty much 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:30.639 going to Gerald Jackson, sorry Uma Jackson, Jaris Jackson and 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:33.760 h and to Chun. And it seemed like as it's progressed, 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:35.800 you're seeing Pollard more and more at the first team, 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:38.320 And I thought maybe, and Dave you, you and I 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:39.800 talked about this yesterday and you kind of had this 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:42.960 opinion too. It almost felt like at first they were like, well, yeah, 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:44.800 let's just keep Tony you kind of in that that 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:47.800 secondary role, and as time when they were like, huh, 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:49.880 it might be pretty good. We might want to give 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:51.920 him a little bit more and see or else we 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:53.880 can use him. And I thought, maybe it it lets 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:56.280 them know, you know, is this a situation where he's 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:58.640 a guy that's a third down back. Maybe not. Maybe 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:00.719 he's a guy that can take a series rather than 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:03.359 just down. I think, really what I'm saying, he's a 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:05.440 lock to make this team, regardless of steaks here or not. 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:08.000 And yeah, if the more he can prove, the more 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:11.440 snaps he'll get. But a guy Derrius Jackson's not a lock. 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:14.479 They went and got offered more as Chun. I think 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:17.520 Chun's the guy from that group that's moving him more 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:21.520 into consideration of maybe making the team. Yeah, and everything 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:23.639 you just said about Pollard is right, but he is 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:25.920 so entrenched that he was really more part of the 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:29.440