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Speaker 1: Life flock dot com Welcome to episode. Eddie is jumping
Speaker 1: in from from from the Bio Bonne Show, but the
Speaker 1: Sore Losers podcast as well. That's kind of cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I come from another place. Yeah yeah. Eddie is my
Speaker 1: music friend and we sit and we talked about music
Speaker 1: a lot, which is kind of where the stem from
Speaker 1: of reading an article that if you want a song
Speaker 1: to be a hit, the best thing to do is
Speaker 1: to bring another artist in. Like most times when you
Speaker 1: bring another artist in generates interest. Usually if you bring
Speaker 1: an artist and that means are good, people know them
Speaker 1: up so kind of duets or the thing and we
Speaker 1: can look back at something like f g L meant
Speaker 1: to be, which bb Rex all right, And this song
Speaker 1: worked multiple formats because bb Rex is a pop artist,
Speaker 1: and on the different formats, what's funny is they played
Speaker 1: to the strengths so much more, meaning country. They did
Speaker 1: a whole lot more of f g L and cut
Speaker 1: some of the bb pop. They did a whole lot
Speaker 1: more bb and cut some of the Florida Georgia line.
Speaker 1: Like it was like this long piece that they could,
Speaker 1: you know, manipulate whichever way they needed to for people
Speaker 1: to listen to it. I remember hearing that version of
Speaker 1: of bb rexas singing the you no need not no
Speaker 1: not her part. It's it's the regular floor to Georgia
Speaker 1: line part, And I was like, that sounds so weird
Speaker 1: because I was used to the country version. Yeah. Sense,
Speaker 1: So the story is that I can read you this here.
Speaker 1: A new study found that songs with featured guest artists
Speaker 1: or duos over the past two decades have become top
Speaker 1: ten hits. Right and Maroon five mc Cardi b Honey
Speaker 1: an girl Like You. Yeah, that's the same one. I
Speaker 1: like money moved this says girls like that doesn't name
Speaker 1: of that song. They messed up the who did that?
Speaker 1: That's why we're the expert on the podcast. Remember Katy
Speaker 1: Perry and Snoop Dogg doing California Girls. That's a good one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so and they left some of them. Eminem and Rihanna
Speaker 1: doing Monster that the fire Monster, Eminem with Dido doing
Speaker 1: Stand of course. I big that one was huge. That's
Speaker 1: that One's was that stand? Yeah? Yeah, no, not stand No,
Speaker 1: It wasn't Stand. My teas rock. So what happened with
Speaker 1: that one was Hey, but he's fan. The name is stand.
Speaker 1: Just wow, You're right. I didn't realize she put that
Speaker 1: out herself after that that song alone. So, uh, thank
Speaker 1: dude teaching the stuff right now, I like that. I
Speaker 1: wasn't planning to talk about that. I'm going from memory here.
Speaker 1: What was that died? A song called you can look
Speaker 1: it up? No, I don't need to, all right, I'll
Speaker 1: look it up because I need to. Um, it's probably
Speaker 1: called I want to thank you. That's not it for
Speaker 1: giving me the best day of my life. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: she made this into a real song and released it
Speaker 1: after she was on it. Yo, slim, it's me day.
Speaker 1: So that's the minm vertue. So this came out after
Speaker 1: stand Yes, I believe again, I'm just going for that. True.
Speaker 1: I would have thought hip hop they sample this is original.
Speaker 1: This came first and then they sampled it first. Stand
Speaker 1: But no, I'm not saying this was already created. But
Speaker 1: it's so why aren't we like just infiltrated with duets?
Speaker 1: We kind of are now if you look around features
Speaker 1: and duets, And that's my point, and I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: to some some of the new stuff and even the
Speaker 1: best duets of the past twenty five years. And by duets,
Speaker 1: it can also be a feature, right, I just used
Speaker 1: do it if there's two people singing in a song.
Speaker 1: But this is stand you know, it comes to mind.
Speaker 1: It's like John Mayer like he I feel like he's
Speaker 1: the dude like he dates a girl. He's like, hey,
Speaker 1: feature duet with me because like really like he doing Taylor?
Speaker 1: They were dating, right, So I think that story again.
Speaker 1: I'm just pulling up out of my butt right here.
Speaker 1: What I think about the Taylor one is because that
Speaker 1: would be half my heart, my god him, Okay, it's
Speaker 1: John Mary Taylor Swift. I believe that she was more
Speaker 1: prominently in the song from what I've heard, could be wrong.
Speaker 1: And then once it didn't go so well, they kind
Speaker 1: of pulled her back a bit some background like she's
Speaker 1: saying versus. I don't know about versus, but she was
Speaker 1: definitely more in there. And then John Mary and Katy
Speaker 1: Perry did who You Love? Yeah so good? Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: I've half of my heart and see if there's any
Speaker 1: recollection or if I made it up or if I
Speaker 1: no insider. And when you geek over the stuff, like
Speaker 1: what kind of research you did? You just google everything?
Speaker 1: Or I talk to people that are really close you
Speaker 1: have that advantage. Yeah, well it's my job, and those
Speaker 1: people they just kind of vomit all that information out, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because they know I don't share stuff like I'm if
Speaker 1: I note like their stuff. I know about songs the
Speaker 1: country music right now, who they're written about, it would
Speaker 1: shake the know. But there's one song in particular that
Speaker 1: if I was like, oh, you know, the song is
Speaker 1: about blah blah blah the whole what. Yeah, dang, that's
Speaker 1: crazy and it's so cool they trust you with that, Like, dude,
Speaker 1: you could really just like, but I don't want to
Speaker 1: because then no one will trust you ever again. Mike,
Speaker 1: you want to talking about now, Okay, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say. I'm not even gonna allude to it. Dang,
Speaker 1: that's so cool. But if you prove trustworthy, then people
Speaker 1: trust you. And you have to show that you're trustworthy
Speaker 1: and little bits first and they give you middle bits
Speaker 1: and then finally people are like I one to love
Speaker 1: music first and form more than I love gossip. You
Speaker 1: can say, God, I love mother than I love gossip
Speaker 1: for what it's about, Like I love you and the
Speaker 1: thing about my ex girlfriend's record when it comes out later,
Speaker 1: I haven't heard it, but there are songs about me.
Speaker 1: But I respect the music so much that she was like, hey,
Speaker 1: should I send you these songs something? I was like, nope,
Speaker 1: because I'll be like, don't put it out, but I
Speaker 1: want your record to be what you wanted to be.
Speaker 1: Zero songs got me, ten songs about me. It needs
Speaker 1: to be what you're feeling. So from respect for the
Speaker 1: music and you as an artist, don't send me crap
Speaker 1: because me, the humans gonna go. Don't put that out. Me,
Speaker 1: the person who loves music goes. I don't even want
Speaker 1: to hear it. You just should put out what you
Speaker 1: want to put out, and if it's slamming me or
Speaker 1: are loving me or mostly slamming me, then that's what
Speaker 1: you should do. Yeah, slamming me. Yeah. Do you like
Speaker 1: knowing all that stuff? Though? Like do you like knowing
Speaker 1: what the song was written about? Because then then your
Speaker 1: mind just take there. I know sometimes not because I
Speaker 1: like to assign at times my own narrative things. Because
Speaker 1: I think we hear a song, we go, this makes
Speaker 1: me feel this way, But if we know what it's
Speaker 1: really written about, we can't feel the way that we
Speaker 1: would have loved to have felt or we feel the
Speaker 1: way that we were needing to feel. Mike, do you
Speaker 1: find thing about that? Okay? Then if finely not true? Well,
Speaker 1: you know I didn't say okay, so that could be it.
Speaker 1: It could be that the version that you're hearing without
Speaker 1: her really is because they pulled her back off of
Speaker 1: it because they decided she didn't she shouldn't be on it.
Speaker 1: That really could be it. So I wonder how all
Speaker 1: these go down to, like how did they get asked?
Speaker 1: They probably say they're probably lay in bed. I was
Speaker 1: just thinking, and that's it. You're like, all right, let's
Speaker 1: go Tay. No, but they were dating, I thought, or
Speaker 1: maybe it was after the fact, and then they recorded,
Speaker 1: and then I don't know, no, because you needed Aniston
Speaker 1: after Taylor or before, and you know what, I know
Speaker 1: stuff about that doesn't matter. I know too much. I'm
Speaker 1: going to stop talking. There are those places to where
Speaker 1: I got because I know too much. Um And I
Speaker 1: don't even like to stand up too much because then
Speaker 1: it's like shut up, oh cool guy. But I have
Speaker 1: to stop because I got to say something I supposed
Speaker 1: to say. That being said, I want to hear this list.
Speaker 1: This whole thing is the best duets of the last
Speaker 1: twenty five years, and one of the recent duets is
Speaker 1: Brandley Gilbert and Lindsay l This song right flying up
Speaker 1: charts right now your ex girlfriend? Right, what happens in
Speaker 1: a small town? Stop? When I read that article about
Speaker 1: features and duet, I was like, Oh, this is what's
Speaker 1: happening now with the Brentley Lindsay song. It's not the
Speaker 1: kitchen my girlfriend, but separate everybody. So there's that one.
Speaker 1: What happens in a small town? We'll do some country
Speaker 1: was first? All right, let's by the way. Eddie was
Speaker 1: like a bad goodbye dude. I just like, I mean
Speaker 1: when this song came out, and I'm kind of like
Speaker 1: you with like the emo music like stuff that's just
Speaker 1: pulls your heart, dude. I remember being young listening to
Speaker 1: the song and get interior and I'm like, what do
Speaker 1: I know about this crap? It's club black and don't
Speaker 1: know why judge. Now, to be fair, this is not
Speaker 1: inside the twenty years I missed it, But what when
Speaker 1: is the right year? I'm sure it's something. Can you
Speaker 1: fast forward? Because when they hit that like towards the end,
Speaker 1: when they go power like song, it so much it's
Speaker 1: given me like chill, remembering, like being a kid here
Speaker 1: in this take it, dude, you know how far do
Speaker 1: you want to go out? And didn't? They're both because
Speaker 1: when it does the verse after this and then they
Speaker 1: do it together where that's the powerful. There's no good,
Speaker 1: who's good? Whenever? Man to leave? Try to keep talking
Speaker 1: you through here it is there maybe no way and
Speaker 1: the cloud up to clear. Did I can't leave? We
Speaker 1: the mag good bye, good good dude, I can't. So
Speaker 1: you remember it? Of course that was so powerful and
Speaker 1: I don't even know if it was huge or it
Speaker 1: made all right. Listen all the time I kissed the thing.
Speaker 1: That's what my min was k frog. Yeah, that's the valley.
Speaker 1: So I didn't make the list, but I did um
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Speaker 1: country duets. My favorite he put that sky Lullaby is
Speaker 1: your favorite. It's such a good song. Brad Paisley, Alice
Speaker 1: Cross and finally, drink Away her Mom. And Brad Paisley
Speaker 1: writes most of his songs. He didn't write this one.
Speaker 1: Remember Brad coming in once and I was like, due,
Speaker 1: my favorite song you've ever done. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if if that's insulting or it's not an insult, but
Speaker 1: it's like insulting because to him, he's done so much
Speaker 1: and he's had so much, so he's had so many
Speaker 1: songs he's written and put out down. He was entertaining
Speaker 1: of the everything right, but this song, these slow songs
Speaker 1: to this is and when one of the best, like
Speaker 1: top five best country duets, and I have my top five,
Speaker 1: they're not really any order. This other one, it was
Speaker 1: not a single this I'll Be the Moon. Oh dude,
Speaker 1: I just I listen to this now still, like it's
Speaker 1: in my rotation of songs to listen to. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I'll Be the Moon is Dirk's and Marion Morris. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Ryan heard wrote this, and dude, honestly, and I'm pretty
Speaker 1: good at listen to music and breaking down lyrics and
Speaker 1: kind of understanding what they're saying. And I never really
Speaker 1: paid attention to it. But when Ryan Ryan one time
Speaker 1: talked about this and talked about, you know, is it
Speaker 1: being an affair and then being okay with that. It
Speaker 1: was like, and that's what it means, Like you're gonna
Speaker 1: metaphorically call that the sun and the moon, Like he
Speaker 1: can be the sun and I'll be on the other
Speaker 1: side of the world be of the moon. And it's like,
Speaker 1: I'll I'm okay waiting if that's the only way I
Speaker 1: can have you is that I'll be the moon. That's intense, right,
Speaker 1: Like that to me is like that's just the thinking
Speaker 1: that never would cross my mind. And they turn it
Speaker 1: into a song, a beautiful song. I don't want to
Speaker 1: be I don't want to be a secret if you want.
Speaker 1: They came in and played this from Dark's record. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had Darks and Maren come in and play this together. Dude.
Speaker 1: They were like, I'm not a single. I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't care, just play it. He can, I'll be okay.
Speaker 1: But you said that they may they do these things
Speaker 1: kind of like as ah, like, the most of the
Speaker 1: data says these are most successful, so this is kind
Speaker 1: of why labels do sometimes put these together and arrange
Speaker 1: them and release them. But in this case, this wasn't
Speaker 1: even a single. It wasn't a single. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: And sometimes they don't make those decisions till later. They
Speaker 1: could have recorded it going to be a single that
Speaker 1: for some reason ended up changing. Interesting Remember Dark's put
Speaker 1: out a song called what the Hell or something, and
Speaker 1: they pulled it because darksn't like Hell being a single,
Speaker 1: and so all those factors it may or may not
Speaker 1: have changed what the next single was, what the next
Speaker 1: single was. Because you don't do two slow songs in
Speaker 1: a row. You don't do, you know, so, I don't
Speaker 1: know why, but that song is so good. That's in
Speaker 1: my top duets years. I also have picture from Kid
Speaker 1: Rock and Sheryl Crow. I mean it's classic, right, shoot
Speaker 1: one eight years ago? Would you consider this country? I
Speaker 1: don't know why. I don't think Cheryl's country. Then he's
Speaker 1: not country now? Really kid Rock has never been country
Speaker 1: kind of he lives in Naville now, I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: wolves in London and oh yeah, I guess that was Yeah,
Speaker 1: what was that done? It's hard to sing another song
Speaker 1: when this one's playing. That called anywhere fishing on the
Speaker 1: ducks all summer long? That song note might could be
Speaker 1: pulling up picture. Cheryl Crow wasn't the original singer on
Speaker 1: that song. Who was another country artist? Really? Yeah? And
Speaker 1: so and again they were dating kid Rock and show Crow?
Speaker 1: Were they not when this one thing? I don't know
Speaker 1: if they were dating then or not, because I feel
Speaker 1: like that's special to like if there is romance between
Speaker 1: that probably how you get them or you get him
Speaker 1: in the studio and then you start dating after it.
Speaker 1: It's like a little tactic that you do. Yeah, It's like, Hey,
Speaker 1: I want to meet somebody. How do I get them
Speaker 1: to come in? Ask him to do a duet? It's
Speaker 1: like putting somebody in music video. Who was Alison More? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So she was the original one on the song. I
Speaker 1: mean huge, huge advantage to put Sheryl Crown. That could
Speaker 1: have that could have made the song. Yeah, are that crazy?
Speaker 1: That is a crazy good one. That's one of my
Speaker 1: top I love this You and Tequila from Kenny Chesney
Speaker 1: and Grace Potter two thousand ten Quill made me crazy,
Speaker 1: jam right so good lacks and my blood harmonies right here.
Speaker 1: One more n could kill wan just want to? One
Speaker 1: more is never It comes so good. Put that on
Speaker 1: the list. Another one that I put in is the
Speaker 1: Brooks and Done with Reba. Yeah, cow Girls don't Cry? Yes?
Speaker 1: Is that a duet or a triplet? Well? Or is
Speaker 1: that a three way? Is that a threesome? It's two artists,
Speaker 1: like brooks Don's considered an artist, but yeah, they should
Speaker 1: make another category for three and then they would dominate
Speaker 1: it obviously because this is good. But it's like two artists. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying girls. The whole song is like the
Speaker 1: dad's like telling her, hey, you fall up a horse.
Speaker 1: Cowgirls will cry, get up, Hey this happened. Cowgirls will cry,
Speaker 1: get up. And at the end, the dad's dying and
Speaker 1: she's like, she's the cowguys like because cowgirls don't cry,
Speaker 1: and it turned it on him. That's that's a good one.
Speaker 1: I put that in the top five if I had
Speaker 1: to do one more, because I have a bunch of
Speaker 1: them up here. Whiskey the Laby, I'll be the moon.
Speaker 1: Cowgirls Don't Cry. That's five. You know the one that
Speaker 1: you have more, You have more on there? I do
Speaker 1: like this is the probably the ultimate, probably the biggest. Again,
Speaker 1: the ultimate. We know Tim and Faith like they're married.
Speaker 1: It's love. So that makes all this way more special
Speaker 1: than just two artists singing a song. I wonder if
Speaker 1: there are a lot of duets where people were together
Speaker 1: and now they hate each other and we feel worse
Speaker 1: about it because on the show, on the radio show,
Speaker 1: we were talking about the song from Dixie Chicks, Cowboy
Speaker 1: Take Me Away was written about Emily Robinson and Charlie
Speaker 1: Robinson no longer together and they're not together, but it
Speaker 1: was written about, you know them, seeing that happen. It
Speaker 1: was written about Emily fallen in love with Charlie. Wrote
Speaker 1: it with Marcus Hummond about Emily and Charlie. Now they're
Speaker 1: not together. But if you know that story, do you
Speaker 1: think of it differently and go, oh, this has written
Speaker 1: about their love? Well, ever since you told that story,
Speaker 1: I heard it a couple of times after that, and
Speaker 1: I've automatically thought about that story now, so I don't
Speaker 1: even think about I mean, I don't know, I never
Speaker 1: thought about anything, but now I think about Charlie and Emily,
Speaker 1: like it doesn't kill it that they're not together, because
Speaker 1: that's real life. The fact that they got divorced whatever,
Speaker 1: real life. We never would have known that that story
Speaker 1: wasn't even out. But the song, I mean that that
Speaker 1: that still lives, like you talk about that song still
Speaker 1: lives and if it was about them fallen in love,
Speaker 1: it will always be at them falling in love. It's
Speaker 1: five o'clock somewhere, Alan Jackson, Jimmy Buffett. Did you like
Speaker 1: this one? Yes, you like Jimmy Buffett. He's my favorite.
Speaker 1: I was never a lover lover of this song. There
Speaker 1: was a guy in high school named Brian Wagner, and
Speaker 1: this dude was like a surfer kind of kid or whatever,
Speaker 1: and his parents were big Jimmy Bufett fans, and he
Speaker 1: got me into Jimmy Buffett, and I loved that whole
Speaker 1: like party margarita's and parrots and like tropical vibe. Like
Speaker 1: I just love his whatever he stood for, that's your thing.
Speaker 1: I'm a beach guy man. Buffets my dude. So when
Speaker 1: you put Alan Jackson, who was I mean, the king
Speaker 1: of just country music, nineties country really like the Chattahoochie
Speaker 1: and all that, and then put him together with Jimmy
Speaker 1: Buffett and loving life, I wonder how many of these
Speaker 1: two were saying in the same studio back in the
Speaker 1: day versus now. It's a good question, because you have you,
Speaker 1: we have like the raging idiots. You have duets with
Speaker 1: We have duets with Carrie Underwood, Harry Charles, Charles, Kelly,
Speaker 1: um Kelsey Ballerini. So and how many of those were
Speaker 1: done in the same time exactly? Well, maybe same room,
Speaker 1: but we were went at the same time. Like when
Speaker 1: Carry went up to saying you were there, I wasn't there, correct,
Speaker 1: And I think I'm have been sick or something, and
Speaker 1: Carry went up and just nailed it and was like,
Speaker 1: all right, So that's just us. And why would you
Speaker 1: try to schedule time and you're busy schedule to both
Speaker 1: be in the same room unless it's a special moment
Speaker 1: you have to be there, Like why would you why
Speaker 1: would you record at the same time? Technology? Man a video? Okay,
Speaker 1: I guess that was I mean videos now, like, no,
Speaker 1: they don't really matter that much anymore. People don't way
Speaker 1: too much money on videos now and I've never I
Speaker 1: don't see him. You need to put up a lyric video,
Speaker 1: the one with the bouncy ball on the bottom. Anything?
Speaker 1: Um one more Arthutrian jam, big jam. You know what
Speaker 1: I've realized about talking about this. I like my duets
Speaker 1: slow jam. What's the fast one that we talked about?
Speaker 1: One fast somewhere Okay, yeah's true, but all my favorite
Speaker 1: the ones I pulled are all slow ones. Yeah you
Speaker 1: did say bb Rex in Florgia. Oh that was an
Speaker 1: example that was the top. Yeah, but again such a
Speaker 1: big one, like massive, so right, Dan and Jay not
Speaker 1: to do it, but there are two dudes. Tequila was
Speaker 1: such a big song had the FJL song not existed,
Speaker 1: that song what it said every record, But that's how
Speaker 1: big the f GL song was. It blew people's It
Speaker 1: was so big that haters and country music didn't want
Speaker 1: to acknowledge it was that big country music haters that
Speaker 1: they didn't even want to acknowledge it. Uh, pop, here
Speaker 1: you got some of the best duets, Jay Z, Alicia Keis,
Speaker 1: it's still good. Yes, it comes on and but Eddie,
Speaker 1: I wonder if it's because we're late thirties. This wasn't
Speaker 1: my thing, Like I wasn't listening to this kind of
Speaker 1: music when it came out, but it stood out over
Speaker 1: everything else when it did come out, So I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't care, I love it. And then Alicia Kis
Speaker 1: put the song after that is the song? Would it
Speaker 1: have been a bigger song of it was Beyonce? Because
Speaker 1: again I feel like it's really important. Beyonce is not
Speaker 1: from New York, Texas. He he doesn't acknowledge them that
Speaker 1: song Texas. I think that the reason that Alicia Keys
Speaker 1: does it is because it's a New York girl and
Speaker 1: you need someone in jay Z the New York game.
Speaker 1: So I don't think it could have been Beyonce speaking
Speaker 1: of maybe off track a little bit. But do you
Speaker 1: think Alicia Key is gonna do good at the Grammys? Yeah,
Speaker 1: should be fine. They won't put in a situation to
Speaker 1: not do well, meaning they're not gonna have her up
Speaker 1: doing a comedy monologue. I just don't see her as
Speaker 1: a host, Okay, I don't think they have our traditional
Speaker 1: host Like she'd come out and do something a little funny.
Speaker 1: She'd probably play a little funny song, maybe on her piano.
Speaker 1: They won't take someone like that who's so good at
Speaker 1: what they do and put them in a whole new
Speaker 1: world and give him a chance to fail. You get
Speaker 1: someone like that for their name, what they're good at,
Speaker 1: and you let them do what they're good. You know,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's good answer. Uh do you remember Mariah
Speaker 1: Carey boys man? Once we day what no play? Let
Speaker 1: me see no You're shining down on Me from Heaven.
Speaker 1: No No, this song was massive. They sang this together
Speaker 1: in the studio and videos out from Heaven minting we
Speaker 1: Lost along the Way and no no if this song
Speaker 1: was so big it number one for like twelve weeks.
Speaker 1: I've heard it. I've heard it one sweet day, there's
Speaker 1: boys to men at their height and Mariah Carey height.
Speaker 1: That's a massive song. Holy crap, that's a big one.
Speaker 1: Remember the song this is Megan Trainer John Legend from
Speaker 1: two fifteen wasn't like a super super super smash, but
Speaker 1: I loved it. I feel like that was last year
Speaker 1: I come saying goodbye day like the roles. I love
Speaker 1: it because I had runs called runs Yeah, run ye
Speaker 1: shallow from Stars Born. Oh yeah, it's actually something good?
Speaker 1: Oh you happy and loose model? Need is there something news?
Speaker 1: You search? You fool food? Like the movie I've never
Speaker 1: seen it. Oh you haven't seen this movie. And I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna be one that goes to the greatest movie
Speaker 1: ever because it's not it's really good. But when you
Speaker 1: say something's really good, it's usually right. You don't really
Speaker 1: you're not to follow the hype kind of guy. And
Speaker 1: I wanted to not like it. That's how much fault
Speaker 1: not follow the hype. Guy. I wanted to be like,
Speaker 1: come on, guys, my roll my eyes. It's good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've seen other versions, so I know how I kind
Speaker 1: of how guys just thinking that cuff we have? What
Speaker 1: do you think about him? Though? Like, I mean, this
Speaker 1: is gonna it's already want some awards, right, they're playing
Speaker 1: it at the Oscars, right, So I mean, this is
Speaker 1: Bradley Cooper. This is why I like it so much.
Speaker 1: The movie is because he had to he had to
Speaker 1: do that. He had to get to sing, he had
Speaker 1: to learn to play guitar. Oh, he didn't know how
Speaker 1: to play guitar or anything. Nothing and sing and do
Speaker 1: and then he gets on and does our great jobs
Speaker 1: to him man, and then as someone who you know
Speaker 1: plays music, and then I know, like in the big
Speaker 1: scene at the beginning where he's playing a huge, huge
Speaker 1: stadium or now it's each festival, like that was no
Speaker 1: stage coach, stage coach, and like you just see all
Speaker 1: the things they had to do to make that movie work,
Speaker 1: and it's really cool. You'll like it. You should watch it,
Speaker 1: will Yeah, And then it reminds you of like other
Speaker 1: artists too that we know, and you're like, well, and
Speaker 1: then Eddie Vetter is my favorite, and he wouldn't lived
Speaker 1: to darn his behavior mannerisms. Remember this one dilemma Nelly
Speaker 1: and Kelly Rowland. Of course it shook up every of course,
Speaker 1: you know. The other one was Nelly and Tim McGraw. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which I'm surprised that wasn't one of the country ones.
Speaker 1: Well because it wasn't country. Was that a Was that
Speaker 1: a big pop hit? Yeah? Over and over country really
Speaker 1: did country I played at all? Only pop did because
Speaker 1: it's all in my head. Shook my world out. Dang, dude,
Speaker 1: you're right, yeah, I think about it over and over.
Speaker 1: I mean, think about when this came out. For Timogarald
Speaker 1: get on a rap record, it wasn't something everybody was.
Speaker 1: The country wasn't doing that wearing his cowboy hat. And
Speaker 1: for Nellie to be able to see out to the
Speaker 1: box and go, let's bring out a country singer, they
Speaker 1: were way ahead of their time. Nellie's got something in
Speaker 1: him where he kind of like maybe he doesn't see
Speaker 1: genre lyons or something, because he's real close to country,
Speaker 1: Like maybe it's from Missouri. Maybe That's that's always what
Speaker 1: I thought, Like, you grow up in the Midwest, you know,
Speaker 1: someone considered almost a stuff that you have a country roots.
Speaker 1: And I mean he's done Cray country grammar, country grammar,
Speaker 1: all of that. I feel like he does have country
Speaker 1: deep country. Did he put us all they wanted to
Speaker 1: go country? At one point I think Nellie did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this shook it, That shook b b REXA FJL meant
Speaker 1: to be obviously. You know what song I loved to do?
Speaker 1: It was any of the best duets of the past
Speaker 1: twenty five years in my opinion, that Pink and that
Speaker 1: Nate rouse from Fun when they did. Just give me
Speaker 1: a reason that was I love this song. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: clearly a fun song, right like the band Fun because
Speaker 1: it sounds like them. I hate them not together any
Speaker 1: fun Like this guy's got one of the best voices
Speaker 1: I've ever heard. His range. It sounds like a girl
Speaker 1: sometimes sigh. Must have just something going on because Jack
Speaker 1: the guy now is in the bleachers. Yes he's the
Speaker 1: he's the guitar and bleachers are good now. But it's
Speaker 1: not Fun. But Fun was when Fun came out. It
Speaker 1: sounds like we're saying, but that's not fun, man, the
Speaker 1: fun The band isn't even like current to people, and
Speaker 1: and they only had what they weren't around for that long.
Speaker 1: Right as far as far as they're like huge success,
Speaker 1: I don't I remember a blit of their warriors. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's nothing. Funds first song some Nights? Was it some nights?
Speaker 1: No? No No, no, that sounds like it said that one
Speaker 1: young I thought it was weird that I could be wrong.
Speaker 1: What friends are in the bathroom getting hired than she
Speaker 1: is waiting for me just across. This is not a duet.
Speaker 1: The band was just so goodlass and then Nate Ruce
Speaker 1: can never take off himself. I know, I gave it
Speaker 1: to you months ago. That was good. And then after
Speaker 1: that was I believe some nights, some nights, and then
Speaker 1: this is that jam. But my favorite was carry On too.
Speaker 1: Still it's still my favorite. I love it again. I'm
Speaker 1: a sucker for slow piano carry on, carry on. So
Speaker 1: I woke to the song. I'll listen to this today now.
Speaker 1: I never reminded of it, like nine to listen all
Speaker 1: fun today. After if I played, I was like I
Speaker 1: player and I was just jamming out to some other stuff.
Speaker 1: You know what. I the what trail I went down
Speaker 1: recently was the Seven Club trail. I didn't mean to,
Speaker 1: but I just kind of started listening to all their
Speaker 1: music and brought me down a little bit. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have just doing that, can I can I give you
Speaker 1: the other side of that, a bit of the darker
Speaker 1: side of it, and not in a bad way. But
Speaker 1: I would say, because here's you want to give the story,
Speaker 1: the seven Club twenty seven club is is the age
Speaker 1: twenty seven that a group of artists, I would say
Speaker 1: artists because they're even I mean I even think maybe
Speaker 1: Heath Ledgers in as well, but like artists died at
Speaker 1: age seven, and they call it the twenty seven Club
Speaker 1: because they're all probably still together in heaven or something,
Speaker 1: you know, some basic right, So okay, let's let's get
Speaker 1: one on as I tell the story. For example, you're
Speaker 1: going Cobain now, I was gonna go Jimmy Hendrix, Nirvana,
Speaker 1: Amy Winehouse, Um, Jim Morrison a lot. Right. Here's my
Speaker 1: theory as to why it's actually not bad, which it
Speaker 1: makes it kind of dark. I don't think they would
Speaker 1: have been able to create such magic stuff had they
Speaker 1: been normal. You know, this is my theory anyway to
Speaker 1: create and we always have the argument we create crazy stuff.
Speaker 1: You have to be crazy to create crazy good stuff
Speaker 1: that's so so different, you have to be different. And
Speaker 1: I would say what made them special is also what
Speaker 1: killed them. That they were out of control, you know what.
Speaker 1: Where they were out of control musically and had no rules,
Speaker 1: they were also out of control in the personal life
Speaker 1: that had no rules. You can't just kind of pick
Speaker 1: a spot and go, I'm fully nutty in this part
Speaker 1: of my life. But you know what, I'm gonna count
Speaker 1: it the rest of the day. So the fact that
Speaker 1: Kurt Cobain was able to take a sound and elevate it.
Speaker 1: They didn't create that sound, you know, they were actually
Speaker 1: the first ones from that scene to bust through with
Speaker 1: that sound. But the fact that he was able to
Speaker 1: do that, he was only able to do that because
Speaker 1: he was nuts. That music would have never happened had
Speaker 1: he not been reckless and crazy and nuts and and
Speaker 1: that same characteristic is what killed him. So if he
Speaker 1: didn't have if he didn't have the characters that killed
Speaker 1: he would have had the characters that made the music.
Speaker 1: Amy Winehouse the same thing, Jim Morrison from the Doors
Speaker 1: like that. Dudy was insane but genius at the same time,
Speaker 1: and what killed him was his insanity. So my thing is, Okay,
Speaker 1: it sucks they all died at but we had never
Speaker 1: had their music, had they not been nutty to begin with?
Speaker 1: Did that make sense? It does? And I agree with
Speaker 1: you for some of them. I don't agree with Jim
Speaker 1: Morrison or Amy Winehouse because because Jim Morrison had a band,
Speaker 1: like a really good band that made really good he
Speaker 1: was the poet of that band, you know, like he wrote,
Speaker 1: he was nut But I think I think music historians
Speaker 1: and music geeks talk about like, oh, but listen to
Speaker 1: the lyrics of Light My Fire, and I'm like, listen
Speaker 1: to that sound and listen to his voice and listen
Speaker 1: to the doors as a whole. But him, he was
Speaker 1: a good poet. But here's the saying lyrics that no
Speaker 1: one ever understands. Anyway, I thought, I love your thoughts, right,
Speaker 1: what he had to be a total package frontman for
Speaker 1: this to be seen. He would perform backwards, with his
Speaker 1: back towards the crowd, exactly my point. And he also
Speaker 1: pulled his pecker out and play right, and no one
Speaker 1: liked that. But my mom would like the Doors would
Speaker 1: not be legendary without him doing frontman things. Lots of
Speaker 1: people make good music, lots of people make good music.
Speaker 1: We don't hear all the good music because of good music.
Speaker 1: There's something else about it that makes it go Oh.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can ever try this. Name
Speaker 1: a band that's boring but makes fantastic music and got famous.
Speaker 1: Zach Brown Band. I'm not. I'm not saying they're born.
Speaker 1: They're just what's to them. They're they're great talented that
Speaker 1: makes that makes good music, but they're not like but
Speaker 1: they're current. Again, we can't assign their place in history yet.
Speaker 1: Zack Brown Band, Okay, Alabama, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like they make good good I don't think you can
Speaker 1: be at my point if they're not me really exclusive
Speaker 1: like Amy Winehouse. We'll talk about her first second watch
Speaker 1: the documentary I did, and I loved it, but me
Speaker 1: as a consumer that you finished on the Doors real quick.
Speaker 1: You're saying the Doors wouldn't be the Doors without him
Speaker 1: doing all that crazy stuff. It's my point because their
Speaker 1: legend and their nuttiness preceded them, Like you knew that
Speaker 1: was nuts before it even got to you, and it
Speaker 1: made it bigger. And the fact that he died made
Speaker 1: it bigger. Absolutely all of it did died live in
Speaker 1: that way. So they wouldn't have made their art if
Speaker 1: they didn't live an already lifestyle because and a lot
Speaker 1: of already not all, but a lot of already lifestyles
Speaker 1: are filled with excess. Some already lost aren't, aren't filled
Speaker 1: with excessive drugs and alcohol. Some are filled with excessive
Speaker 1: working out. You have to find your excess to McGraw's,
Speaker 1: they happen to find theirs. And uh, you know, physical sure,
Speaker 1: because I agree, I agree with with Jimi Hendrix. He
Speaker 1: would have never liked he would have made that music.
Speaker 1: All that music would have never come out of he
Speaker 1: wasn't an ass. Same thing with her Cobain, And you you
Speaker 1: think he's making that stuff on here, correct, And that's
Speaker 1: why I do that. But she but she's saying like
Speaker 1: she had her voice soul came from pain and that
Speaker 1: pain wasn't influenced a bit with the drugs and the alcohol. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not even arguing that. I'm absolutely right. I just
Speaker 1: that's my theory on it. I had to explain to
Speaker 1: my kids because my kids were with me when I
Speaker 1: was listening to it as I just got into this
Speaker 1: hole of talking to them about the twenty seven Club,
Speaker 1: and I really meet explaining to them what happened to them.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like, how do you explain to a
Speaker 1: eleven year old why they were in the twenty seven Club?
Speaker 1: They made bad choices, like they were too creative, they
Speaker 1: were they you know, they didn't know how to handle
Speaker 1: certain things in their life. Like it's sad because when
Speaker 1: you get when you're twenty seven, you're like, dude, whatever,
Speaker 1: man do whatever. Live your life that way. It's cool.
Speaker 1: When you're older and you have kids and a family,
Speaker 1: you're just like, damn, that sucks. They didn't make it
Speaker 1: past that because Jim Morrison probably wouldn't mean if you
Speaker 1: were still alive. L You watch a documentary on right
Speaker 1: did Right Again? She doesn't make that's super soulful, painful
Speaker 1: music without pain? And what do you do with pain?
Speaker 1: You try to make the pain go away? And how
Speaker 1: do you make the pain go away? Well, one of
Speaker 1: the ways is by an expression expression. So yeah, that's
Speaker 1: my point. Let have to be right, But that's what
Speaker 1: I that's how I feel. We wouldn't if they didn't
Speaker 1: die that what killed them made them awesome. Hey, how
Speaker 1: many times we have this conversation a lot um that
Speaker 1: the crazy thing about Janis Choplin we've spiraled and well, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll go back to do it when I will finish
Speaker 1: for almost done anyway. But the crazy thing about Janis
Speaker 1: Joplin is that her biggest hit didn't even come out
Speaker 1: until she was dead, which is um me and Bobby McGee. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and she didn't write it. Christi Stofferson did. That's right, right,
Speaker 1: So this didn't even come out really until she was dead.
Speaker 1: Who gets all that money? He does? He wrote it?
Speaker 1: I mean she gets some of the master I don't listen.
Speaker 1: I don't know how deals were done. Then, you know,
Speaker 1: there's far less money and being the artist in the
Speaker 1: if you don't write the song, there's really not a
Speaker 1: lot of money in making the record. A couple of
Speaker 1: tricks that artists do now is and I'll just speak
Speaker 1: in general terms, if you're a major, major artist, you
Speaker 1: can almost demand writing credit. Even if you don't write,
Speaker 1: you can get in and change. That's just a split
Speaker 1: split of the money you can get into. And it's
Speaker 1: different because in pop world you can get in it.
Speaker 1: So let's say you're a I'm just gonna do someone
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about on that level of Beyonce,
Speaker 1: and Beyonce doesn't touch a word of her song. She
Speaker 1: could go in if there are five other songwriters and
Speaker 1: be like, hey, listen, I'm not gonna cut it less
Speaker 1: I get a writer's credit, let me change a word.
Speaker 1: And what are they going to do? They want exactly? Um.
Speaker 1: In the country world, it's different because here that's all
Speaker 1: on equal percentages for the most part, and there is
Speaker 1: a there's a respect here of like you don't cross anyone.
Speaker 1: Most of the time. Most I know artists who've got
Speaker 1: on song as they didn't pop me. But most of
Speaker 1: the time. One in particular, I was like, that's dirty.
Speaker 1: I remember this. Yeah, I remember thinking the same thing.
Speaker 1: Dirty want they change one word only so you get
Speaker 1: writing credit on it. It's a word for a third.
Speaker 1: I believe they say that, now writers, did you change
Speaker 1: the word, you're now a third writer of the song.
Speaker 1: So um so that. But you know, if you're sing
Speaker 1: on a song and get a little bit of the
Speaker 1: master money, But it's all in songwriting, all in publishing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, one time when I was in my old band,
Speaker 1: like you know whatever, fifteen years ago. I'm tied. Look
Speaker 1: it up and I'm tied. Yeah. I did Bob Dylan
Speaker 1: cover and I put it up on my Space and
Speaker 1: like within two days Bob Dylan's publishing. It was just like,
Speaker 1: first off, it's terrible Dylan's brother. Yeah, and it was
Speaker 1: it was two options. One you can pay us, or
Speaker 1: to just take it down now like pretty much, which
Speaker 1: is like you know, I've had to. We were just
Speaker 1: a dumb band, like a garage band. We're like, okay,
Speaker 1: take it down, Bob Dylan. I don't like this. Well,
Speaker 1: this was the best duets of the last twenty five years,
Speaker 1: and I believe that's what this podcast is all about. Yeah. Anyway,
Speaker 1: the point is duets features are massive. You want to
Speaker 1: get it hit, get somebody on that's different and as
Speaker 1: cool or cooler than you, hopefully because people like to
Speaker 1: see song with multiple people on it. It's like having
Speaker 1: it for dinner. Do you want one course? Sure, it's good,
Speaker 1: you know, like chicken, let's cool. Get some corn on
Speaker 1: there too, sure, Like you know, like you go to Chili's,
Speaker 1: they have like the just pick two of this whole item. Like,
Speaker 1: pick three of the item you want? Do you want
Speaker 1: a little bit of everything? I get it? Not enough?
Speaker 1: Not makes Janna Schoplin wants the documentary and go read
Speaker 1: the story about this song because it's fantastic. Guess what
Speaker 1: I know we're from is this song for the most part? Um,
Speaker 1: you know what's our two? It's like, I mean, what
Speaker 1: a piece of my heart? What's your fate tale with? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Mercedes Benz mail made piece of my heart? People knew
Speaker 1: that was jannas Shoplin song. Oh yeah, oh lord, won't
Speaker 1: you buy Mercedes fins? Yeah? My friends all drop Porsches
Speaker 1: is making man so good man? Yeah, okay, good talk dude,
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