1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Weekly Zitgeist. Uh. These are some of our favorite segments 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: from this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: laugh stravaganza. Uh. Yeah, So, without further ado, here is 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: the Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh. And finally, what is a myth? 6 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: What's something people think is true? You know to be false? Uh? 7 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: Doritos are of this world? M yes, they landed here 8 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: on an asteroid. It's not They're not real. Yeah you 9 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: like Drido's I do. That's why I can't like it's 10 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: like the perfect perfect Yeah. Could you eat a like 11 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: a family size bag without a doubt? Like and when 12 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: like some good caso or something like that? Oh? Fuck 13 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: you double up? Come on man, yo, I like to 14 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: come on man, you're looking. If we're gonna sin, I 15 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: just don't want to fully dive in. Yeah, we're not 16 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: just gonna have oral sex. Let's do this, Let's breach 17 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: the castle walls. Uh. Nacho cheese derritos with green Mountain 18 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: Greno salsa is one of my favorite combo. It's green 19 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: Mountain Gringo salace medium. It's just a salsa that I 20 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: really like. Where do they sell it here and yeah, yeah, 21 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: just one of my favorite sauces. Does it say green 22 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: in it? Yeah? Awesome at least no, yeah, like we 23 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: don't want that. It was actually on that food blog, 24 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: the take Out they posited the question to their staff 25 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: is it nacho cheese or cool Ranch the superior torito, 26 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: and they were deadlocked. Na cheese because I think cool 27 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: Ranch gives you such a weird feeling in your mouth, 28 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: like tasting your mouth afterwards, this zing. Yeah, that's what 29 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: we call the zing. Right. The zing ends up at 30 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: like maybe three minutes after you've eating it, making it 31 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: feel like you've sucked on a battery or something. To me, 32 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: the proper way to eat the cool Ranch is in 33 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: the sandwich itself. Yeah, the sandwich successory. Well, like inside 34 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: the sandwich. Yeah, because what you said, anything anything you'd 35 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: put ranch on, bro Yeah, anything you would eat it with, 36 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: Like any kind of sandwich, you would eat it, but 37 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: you just put it in there. Yeah. You know it's funny. 38 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: I'm always not your cheese, but then I have cool 39 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: Ranch and I go, you know what, this one isn't 40 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: bad too. It's like chocolate and vanilla. Yeah, you need 41 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: chocolate vanilla especially Vanilla Bean may al right, a new 42 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: show that reminds me. My wife did this bit because 43 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: she was because I like vanilla, and she was like, 44 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: you like a psychopath, Like why you just eat the 45 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: vanilla and she was like, it's pretty FilmOn deal on stage. 46 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: I was like, I wouldn't because I think I'm pretty normal, 47 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: and she did it and it bombs. I was like, 48 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: I think there's a reason it's one of the popular 49 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: flavor right. Yeah, she was like I didn't think. I 50 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: didn't tell her that. I was like, this is gonna 51 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: be funny. Could you just wait to do that until 52 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: I'm so that's awesome? What is something that's underrated? Man? 53 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: Uh man? Jamie, Yeah, man, I'm a men's rights activist. 54 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: Surprised I tricked Anna out debate me coward to Jamie, 55 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: debate you think you're so smart with your menso to 56 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: debate an average man, Yeah, but to own you with 57 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: facts and logic, um, you can't. You referenced tenfoil hat. 58 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: I think what's underrated is um what I used to think. 59 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: We're really crazy conspiracy theories like I had. I've had 60 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: friends that have been telling me for years that all 61 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: the world's elite are pedophiles. And I was like, that 62 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: sounds crazy, but they were right this whole time looking 63 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: at these listen like huh, I'm like, man, it is 64 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: that is everyone you told me was a pedophile. She's like, 65 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: I've been I've been told that, Like I've been told 66 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: crazy things about Bill Clinton my whole life. But I 67 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: thought it was just because I grew up in a 68 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: red state, you know. But yeah, I mean, god, see, 69 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: that's why this whole Jeffrey Epstein thing, I bring it 70 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: all out bringing. I want to see it all that 71 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: we need to get to the bottom of this ship. 72 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: That is the funny thing is you're seeing like a 73 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: lot of more like right leaning people that are like, 74 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: well what about when what are your people? Comes out? 75 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: And every everyone left, Yeah, please take them. All the 76 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: fires are being stoked and ready. Yeah. And it's in 77 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: like every area of rich people to every genre of 78 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: rich Like there, if you haven't seen an Open Secret, 79 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: have you guys seen an Open Secret? That's the documentary 80 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: from a couple of years ago by Amy Berg about 81 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: like Hollywood specific pedophile and like I couldn't get a 82 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: theatrical release really because it was like such a controversial. 83 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: I gotta see that. She's like an Oscar winning director 84 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: and he couldn't get it right right right. But it's 85 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: like it's so prevalent. I mean, we got we're talking 86 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: Pearlman today and this is like Abuseville to like, especially 87 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: the Carrot of Fame is used to just manipulate the 88 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: funk out of people. I still am just like, how 89 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: is Dan Schneider not? Like there's so many people who 90 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: belong in jail and they're not. It's it's coming. Maybe 91 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: it's coming. Yeah, I mean it's coming out. And it's 92 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: just like I feel like a lot of things are 93 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: just coming to the surface. That's why everything is so crazy. 94 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: It's just like we're at the culdron is bubbling. It's 95 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: it's reached peak boil and we're just like all standing 96 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: around like, oh god, it's gonna blow. Yeah. The Devil's 97 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: the Devil's balloon knots inside out. I can tell, man, 98 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: the Devil's windsock. Now, what is a myth? What's something 99 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: that you? Uh? I forget how Jack wards it? But 100 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: what's a myth? Now? Man? Just bust Okay, So this 101 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: kind of blew my mind and it's kind of a 102 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,559 Speaker 1: string of thought that leads to a couple of quotes 103 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: that we've been missed using for years. As uh So, 104 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: my girl and I were kind of talking about this 105 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: whole basic idea that millennials are like ungrateful or lazy, 106 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: and we were just talking about how really it's more 107 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: that we're so inundated with options that no one can 108 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: feel contentment because it's just we're so constantly aware of 109 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: what we don't have or or what the other thing 110 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: we could be doing. Like, my grandparents had a beautiful maryage. 111 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: They were married for like sixty five years. But it's 112 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: also like she was just yeah, what if I about it? 113 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: That was my myth. I would like to break the 114 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: myth that my grandparents had a good parent who Thanksgiving conversation, 115 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: I mean, any grandparents courting story is the scariest thing 116 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: I've ever heard. My grandparents met via my grandfather cat 117 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: calling my grandfather. Yeah she was, she was. She had 118 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: like a much younger sibling. She was like, you know, 119 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: walking the baby around she's a teenager, and my grandfather 120 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: tailgated her, pulled up to her. It was like, hey, 121 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: that your baby, and then they were married for years. 122 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: Hey yo, that your baby. Yo, Ma, that's your baby. 123 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: That's your baby. No, what are you doing this? If 124 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: you wow? Okay, so go on, oh yeah, well it 125 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: was just we're just talking about it. It's like, also, 126 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: my they didn't have like Facebook, you know, where all 127 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: of a sudden, that girl that you kind of missed 128 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: with in high school hits you up twenty years later. 129 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: Like I've been thinking about, you know, like he didn't 130 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: have to deal with any of that ship. She didn't 131 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: have to deal with any of that that ship. So anyway, 132 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: we were just talking about, like there's all these quotes 133 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: that we've just been misusing honestly to the opposite effects. 134 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: So like, for instance, do you know blood is thicker 135 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: than water? The full saying is actually the blood of 136 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb, 137 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: which basically means the opposite. So it's basically the bonds 138 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: that you choose to make mean much more than the 139 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: bonds that you're born into. But we literally say it 140 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: like blood a stick in the water, like blood over everything, 141 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: blood over everything. But it's really like because your friends 142 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: will adapt with you, it flows more like water. So 143 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: like blood, blood is slower to move, so your family 144 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: is not going to change, so you create your own 145 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: family that's like minded, and you guys are moving like 146 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: a hive. And so it's actually like an insult to 147 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: say blood is thicker than water exactly. We've been saying that. Yeah. 148 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: And then the other one is they say jack of 149 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: all trades, master of none, right, which is like, if 150 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: you focus on a bunch of things, you won't be 151 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: great at anything. But the full saying is jack of 152 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: all trades, master of none. But maybe that's better than 153 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: a master of one. So basically, a jack of all 154 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: trades would beat a master at most things because the 155 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 1: master is only good at one thing. So if you're 156 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: good at ten things, you're gonna beat the master at 157 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: nine things. This is a thank you. That's smiling family. Yeah. Now, 158 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: next person to call me a multi hyph in it. 159 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: You don't fucking get the origin, homie. You don't know 160 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: the end of the phrase. Oh you're just a master 161 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: of super smash brothers. Okay, I'm a little bit good 162 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: at many other things as well. Hell yeah, Okay, that 163 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: that was empowering good. Yeah, that was to share that 164 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: feeling with you. Motherfucking paradigm shift. Yeah, I think we 165 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: need a new drop for paradigm shifts. Just going the 166 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: last married it on that that's what those earthquakes where 167 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: baby was just the paradigm shift to see the Devil's 168 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: but provides and it giveth and it taketh away. Jamie, 169 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: how is men con okay? So give us a quick update? 170 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: What's going on? Quick update? I'm not gonna I'm not 171 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: gonna go crazy on the recap. But do you feel 172 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: like you know I've been talking to people know about 173 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: over a year now. Yeah, you you're you are a mention. 174 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: Yes you've been. You've written things about mensa, Yes, you've been. 175 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: I'll let you just tell your story. I'm sorry, so 176 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: just making space. Uh so, So basically, if if you're 177 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: not familiar, that's great. Honestly took the IMNA entry exam 178 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: as a joke. Turned out to not be turned out 179 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: as a genius. Turns out, No, it turns out and 180 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: I genuinely do believe this. Turns out the test is 181 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: way easier than they tell you, and it's kind of 182 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: a grift. Um I try. I truly believe like a 183 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: lot of people, almost anyone could pass this test. I think, Uh, 184 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: if you taking standardized tests, which most of us did. 185 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: If you if you dig well and your standardized tests 186 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: in elementary school, you'll probably do all on these. Uh. 187 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: Either way, I wrote about it as a joke, got 188 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: in as a joke, was writing some kind of goofy 189 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: pieces under the assumption that the group was kind of 190 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of like rich liberal nerds. Yeah, sure so, 191 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: kind of poking at that. Um. Then turns out it 192 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: was a way more complicated organizations than I realized. There 193 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: are a lot of secret Facebook groups that were toxic there. 194 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying to remain I'm like twelve thousand 195 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: words deep into this story, um, and it is said 196 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: that many words already way more bizarre. Oh you're writing Okay, 197 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: I thought you had spoken twelve Just no, although I 198 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: am going craft envirol the co crow. But long story short, 199 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: there are all these uh all these secret groups, especially 200 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: this one unmoderated one who found my work and immediately 201 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: were like, you know, like there there were there were 202 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: threats that were insulted. It was just kind of the 203 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: general uh person online. Yeah, you poked a cultural bee 204 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: hive online, right, and then the response so, uh so 205 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 1: I just started writing about that I stopped making fun 206 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: of it and stopped started reporting on it. Uh, things 207 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: kind of spiraled out. I like met people who were 208 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: very high up in a rick and Mensa and they 209 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: were like, Yeah, we're not going to shut this group 210 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: down because people like it, even though it's extremely right leaning, 211 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: a lot of rates of stuff in there, a lot 212 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: of anything folks, it's in that group. Um, and they'll 213 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: specifically target members of the group they don't agree with 214 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: and mass blocked them and basically make the group inaccessible. Um. 215 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: So they it was requested that I go to the 216 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: annual gathering of but it was in Phoenix this year 217 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: or so. It was three days, three nights, seventy two 218 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: hours of mensa hundred and ten degrees minimum the whole time, 219 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: because we're in fucking Phoenix. Uh. And it was it 220 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 1: was like truly one of the most bizarre experiences I've 221 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: ever had where I wasn't expecting for like, I had 222 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: a name tag on and and I think I was 223 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: confronted for good bad somewhere in between by minimum a 224 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: hundred people. Uh, just like it was because you've been kind, 225 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: you're sort of a pariah in the MENSA community. But 226 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: I didn't anticipate to know, of course, but yeah, but 227 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: I know, like you, definitely people knew the name Jamie 228 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: Loftus in certain circles. Sure, but I mean it was 229 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: I thought I was assuming I could kind of slink 230 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: you know, not slinker up, but they asked me. Basically, 231 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: the criticism of me besides effect that I'm an ugly 232 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: count who doesn't know what I'm talking about. Outside of 233 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: that very valid criticism, um, the criticism was that I, 234 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: i you know, pre judged the organization before I got 235 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: to know them, which so I was like, okay, final 236 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: go and you know, I'll talk to people and you know, fine, um, 237 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: and yeah, I met I've never liked. There were multiple 238 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: of times where I was in a room full of 239 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 1: people who had blocked me online. They knew exactly who 240 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: I was. I had no way of knowing who any 241 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: of them, and it was just a series of in 242 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: person interactions. I mean some of them, I mean some 243 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: of them were pleasant conversations, and then I would hear 244 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: from a second party after like, oh that's person that 245 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: said really like hideous things about you that that I 246 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: can't see. Because so it was just like a very 247 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: weird translating from online to I r L situation. I 248 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: was kind of surprised that there were a few members 249 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: who they were so aggressive towards me that I that 250 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: I knew who they were, and which means that they 251 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: went out of their way to go out of the 252 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: blocking and contact me directly. And there there were a 253 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: few people I met who got like, I think, surprisingly 254 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: vulnerable with like why they why they felt a certain 255 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: way about a certain thing. And I still disagree with 256 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: most of it, but it was like, I don't know 257 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: they I got invited to this this dinner at like 258 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: Scottish hooters in Phoenix called it is called Tilted Kilt, 259 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: but it is it is Scottis shooters, um And I 260 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: mean I ended up talking to all these people. That's 261 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: amazing that MENSA meetings are at the Tilted Kill, like 262 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: we're intellectual beat me at the Buffalo Wings. It was 263 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: a massive I mean there were two thousand people at 264 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: the Sheridan and Phoenix doing this, and and the daytime, 265 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: I mean the lectures during the day were mostly stupid 266 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: and hilarious. Where there was comedy workshops run by eight 267 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: year old professor comedy workshops. I went to three comedy 268 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: themed workshops. What how? Why why do they need comedy 269 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: worked on in a shop? I don't know, but I 270 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: I don't think that they were helped by the by 271 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: the programming available. They're they're My favorite one was called 272 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: because Science is Cool, Young Sheldon, the Big Bank Theory 273 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: and you it was. It was cute, but yeah, sponsored 274 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: by CBS. No, it was. I mean, I've never seen 275 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: a room full of full grown adults recite a scene 276 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: from The Big Bank Theory from memory and then laugh 277 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: their heads off. Um, but it was. I mean it was. 278 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: I am going to write something about it. It's taking 279 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: a long time because there's more to write about than 280 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: I anticipated. I don't know. It was. It was truly 281 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: like the most bizarre, one of the most bizarre weekends 282 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: I've ever had, And I still don't even know how 283 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: I feel about. Right. Well, I can't wait for you 284 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: to finish this very long piece you've been working on, 285 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: because it sounds like it's it has everything. It was 286 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: a very strange experience that I guess. I guess that 287 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: I'll reach my conclusion at some point, But it's so long, 288 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: it's so much stuff. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated. 289 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: I would say, Gloria, who is the cashier at my 290 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: local Elpoil Loco. Um, she does a wonderful job, Like 291 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: she makes me have a great day every time I 292 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: go in there. And I know that part of it 293 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: is like she's just the face of the delicious chicken. 294 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: Then I get and like the people in the back 295 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: who like season the chicken, they're probably and all the 296 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: hard work. But you know, she just greeted me with 297 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: a smile every day. She really is like the best 298 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: cashier of any place that I've ever had. I feel 299 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: like we have a very it's an important relationship, right 300 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: and doesn't make you feel bad for eating a Eloil 301 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: loco every day. No, And not only that she does 302 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: the thing where she you know, they're reading like off 303 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: a script where they have to like try and up 304 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: sell you things, but she does it with such a 305 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: smile and such like a pleasant attitude that I don't 306 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: begrudge her, like trying to get me to sign up 307 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: for the Eloil local app or try some you know, 308 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: chips in guacamole for two dollars extra. And but do 309 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: you ever ever fall victim to them? Absolutely not know, 310 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: you know, just as kindly back. You're like, Gloria, do 311 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: you want to put this on your Eloia Loco American Express? 312 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: Or wait, you have one of those, don't you don't 313 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: you you don't know, I mean I shouldn't. If I 314 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: was getting points for that, I would be one of 315 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: like the most positive effective ways I could use. Though. 316 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: I'm really surprised Vince, and I can call you Vince 317 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: right because I know how frequently come in here, and 318 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: if you just sign up, you actually get ten thousand 319 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: free Polo bucks just for signing up, and that translates to, well, 320 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: the way you eat probably about a month's worth of 321 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: free food. Well, all right, on that note, we're gonna 322 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: go to a quick break. We'll be right back, and 323 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: we're back finally, what is a myth? What's something people 324 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: think it's true you know to be false? Oh man, 325 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: I forgot this part of the thing. Um lefty lucy, 326 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: righty tidy. Yeah, not always true, not always true. Sometimes 327 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: the contractor just blows it. In fact, in my apartment 328 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: they got they put the cold and the hot on 329 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: the wrong side in the shower, and I think they 330 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: did it like just to screw with me. And it's 331 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: righty Lucy, Oh my, Well. Also, it's not that it's 332 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: like a world gone mad. We need a we need 333 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: a rhyme that is like clockwise verse count our clockwise, 334 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: because it's not it's not really obvious, like I always 335 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: have to like think about it and be like, well, 336 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: they mean the top is going in that direction, not 337 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: because that that's why we have clockwise verse counterclockwise, is 338 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: because we don't. We haven't decided like one means right 339 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: and the other means left. So they come up with 340 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: a better topic and the bottom goes left. It's the 341 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,719 Speaker 1: right way. It's always going to turn that way now. 342 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying the bottom part is going left. 343 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: Though on a circular thing, it's circle. It's circle miles right. 344 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: I just don't think you can. I don't think you 345 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: can say a perfect circle that is turning in place 346 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: is going to the right or left, it's going clockwise 347 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: or counter clockwise. Okay, yeah, so funck off man, how 348 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: could it? But if you fixed a point on the 349 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: outside of a circle, you would very much be able 350 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: to tell if it's going just saying in relationship, because 351 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: we don't have a vertical line that actually differentiates between 352 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: right and left. Okay, Well, I guess I never thought 353 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: so deeply about it. I just twist the fucking thing. Yeah, 354 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: but I like how it sort of fill us out 355 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: of like how could we know? Though? Is there like 356 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: a calculus term for this that we're just too dumb 357 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,239 Speaker 1: to know? Probably almost definitely there math math gang. Let 358 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: us know how dumb we sound right now? Right? I 359 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: think I might be the only one who sounds dumb there. 360 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: I think everyone's like, what are you talking about? Vince 361 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: is gob smacked at the moment. I mean I started 362 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: around like discussion. I blame myself. Wait, but then that 363 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: I'm guessing for this thing to hold true that if 364 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: it's lefty tidy, that would mean it's completely inverted, like 365 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: even the way that the installed backwards or something. Yeah, 366 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. What do we scientists? 367 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: You know? No? No, we're not We're not. Hey, I 368 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: just got word in we're not confirmed from the boom 369 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: and confirmed. Okay, we are not fucking scientists. But let's 370 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: talk about this employee who was interviewed for Wired, who 371 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: has a background as a CIA officer turned Facebook employee. Yeah, 372 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: and this woman Yale Iceland Todd, I think is her 373 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: name Eisenstadt. Eisenstadt, Yes, worked for the CIA as it 374 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: was a diplomat in East Africa adviser to Vice President 375 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: Biden and before that, and then came because they were like, hey, 376 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: we have I think an election meddling problem. You want 377 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: to check it out, and she joined as head of 378 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: Global Elections Integrity OPS. And that was meaning like, hey, 379 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: you're in the CIA, you get it. You know how 380 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: this ship works, Like what can we be doing, like 381 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: safeguard democracy around the world, which is the CIA is 382 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: number one number one priority. Think they're most famous for 383 00:21:55,080 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: life guarding democracy, safeguarding oil profits with targeted assassination target 384 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: assassinations and yes and if refuse jackals will do that. Um. 385 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: But then on day two she realized that the job 386 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,239 Speaker 1: probably wasn't gonna be all that chill because she was 387 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: like instantly there like her boss was like, yeah, we're 388 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: gonna I think we're changing it up a little bit 389 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: based on what we need and we're just gonna make 390 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: you a manager for now. And she's like, I'm from 391 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 1: the Funk. What okay? So when they asked her, she 392 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: goes on this interview, she says, quote, once I walked 393 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: in that door. I was never once empowered to do 394 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: the work I was hired to do, and in fact, 395 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: more than not being empowered, I was purposefully sidelined. It's Facebook. 396 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: Everyone talks about it being a flat organization. Everybody talks 397 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: about how anybody can go talk to anybody. It was 398 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: never that way for me. My boss intentionally never let 399 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: me participate in any of the meetings that were specifically 400 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: about the job I was hired to do. So you're like, huh, 401 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 1: that's interesting, Well what else did they do? Like, what 402 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: what kind of stuff they doing for an interference? Her 403 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: first part was just sort of like, um, they just 404 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: kind of did the bare minimum, which isn't much. But 405 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: she says, the foreign interference part this might sound odd, 406 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: but should be the easiest part to fix. Of course, 407 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: people can always game it, but there are basic tools 408 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: you can put in place. There were advertisers who paid 409 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: in rubles. Those are things that shouldn't have been that 410 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: hard to figure out. That was like her day one, 411 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: and now it's like you accept rupe. Uh, okay, so 412 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: when we do that, and I think maybe that's when 413 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 1: there But when she was asked like do you think 414 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: you were just a publicity stent. She didn't think she was, 415 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: but I think or she didn't believe she was. But 416 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: as her work became clearer, I think that's when she 417 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: realized that any suggestion she made was going to butt 418 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: up against what the business model is of all of 419 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: these social media platforms. And she's very clear it's not 420 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: just about Facebook or Google or Twitter or YouTube, whatever. 421 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: This is just how all social media works. And I 422 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: think this is what's very interesting and something that we 423 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: deeply need to consider. Quote, the business model is to 424 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: keep you engaged. It's not even a question of whether 425 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: advertising is bad or good. It's ation of what do 426 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: they have to do to keep you engaged long enough 427 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 1: to get those ads in front of your eyeballs. Their 428 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 1: tools are doing what they can to keep us engaged, 429 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: which is taking us down more and more extreme rabbit holes, 430 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: which is polarizing us more and more because the salacious 431 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: talking points and salacious click baity headlines or what keep 432 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: people's eyeballs on their screens, And the more and more 433 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: you can keep us outrage, keep us angry, keep us polarized, 434 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: it just makes it much easier for Russia to come 435 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: in and exploit that for me, the biggest issue is 436 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: to fix a business model that intentionally feeds on the 437 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: worst part of who we are as humans. And yes, 438 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 1: people can say, isn't it just human beings? Is it 439 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: Facebook or Google or Twitter or YouTube's fault that people 440 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: love this stuff. It's not their fault. But they're absolutely 441 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: manipulating it and exacerbating it and getting into our psychology 442 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: in order to keep us on their screens. So I 443 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: can't buy the isn't it just human nature? Argument? Right, 444 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: They're engineering things to manipulate human nature. And now, yeah, 445 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: to the point where it's like, well, funk, I guess 446 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: if we keep turning adding spice to the recipe, it 447 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: will just it's already starting to burn. But if it's 448 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: like not, man, I guess we need spicier ship to 449 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: get people fucking going to keep so I can serve 450 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: you and add for shambong whatever the funk it is, right, 451 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: But I think that's really yeah, I think that's the 452 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: that's part of the business model that I think legislators 453 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 1: also have to look at of like, oh, you're purely 454 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: guided by I need advertisers to buy ads. The only 455 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: way I can make our our platform attractive to advertisers 456 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: by saying I can keep idiots staring at this fucking 457 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: thing for X hours at a time. There's this book 458 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: Good to Grade that's like this guy did a study 459 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: on companies that had like sustained success, and one of 460 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: the like main things he says they all have in 461 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: common is called the hedgehog principle, which is like they 462 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 1: know one thing, Like they just always have the same 463 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: sort of core value at the heart of everything they do. 464 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: So like with I forget what the like a let 465 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,719 Speaker 1: was one of the companies, and like it was like 466 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: some manner of like shaving, like staying focused on being 467 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 1: the best in the world, a like providing like shaving things. 468 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: So uh with Facebook, like it seems like the entire 469 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: like d n A of the country of the company 470 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: is built on you know, is built counter to actually 471 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 1: like protecting people's privacy and not manipulating them and not 472 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: making it easy for them to be manipulated. So it 473 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: doesn't like you can't just put a single person in 474 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: there and change like the molecular structure of the company, 475 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: Like that's just not an organism. They everything about it 476 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: is built to be a successful company that makes money, 477 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: and the way they do that is the opposite of 478 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: what we're asking them to do. So it's not going 479 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 1: to come from within, Like they would either need to 480 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: be dismantled or you would need to put like a 481 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: government agency inside the company that like regulates them and 482 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: is like sitting in on their media to be like 483 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: totally unprecedented. Yeah. And the funny thing, like the the 484 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,239 Speaker 1: one thing that she was saying, like based on her 485 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: working there and understanding like seeing like, Oh, their whole 486 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: thing is to know what the funk you want to 487 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: see and just keep accelerating your need to keep looking. 488 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: And she's that's where she was like, Yeah, I'm in 489 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: this unique position where I've worked at the CIA, and 490 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: I can tell you Facebook knows fucking way more about 491 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: you than even the CIA does. So that's troubling. Yeah, 492 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: because the CIA knows a lot about me. Yeah, they 493 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: do screen Oh he used to run this really weird tumbler. Yeah, 494 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: a lot of weird, wacky stuff on there. Um, we 495 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: all saw the I mean that's not to say everyone did, 496 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,959 Speaker 1: but the people that like even the Lego movie, all 497 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: these things that are about like dystopian sort of futures 498 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: and everyone went, okay, just just kind of keep a 499 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: heads up. There were people that were late adopters to 500 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: phones and then smartphones, people that were late joining Facebook 501 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: any of those social media platforms to be like, god, 502 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: damn it, all my friends are gone. I mean they're 503 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: going to just live out here in the woods rubbing 504 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: sticks together and never see anyone. I gotta kind of 505 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: join the hive. And if it became like inescapable for us, 506 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: so I felt like, no, no, no, well, we'll all 507 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: kind of monitor each other and like, hey, keep an 508 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: eye out, big brother. Right, we all read that. And 509 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: now it's just so we're so immersed in it's so 510 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: oppressive that we're like, now I'm little brother, and it 511 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: just seems absolutely impossible. Like you're talking about like we 512 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: need someone to come and regulate that will never happen. 513 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: We have no power to do that to in any 514 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: way hold them accountable when there are hundreds of billions 515 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: of dollars. And if you remember when Zuckerberg went up 516 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: to testify in front of Congress, these motherfuckers don't know 517 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,719 Speaker 1: what face, they don't know what the funk. This is, 518 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: Like those cos were like my granddaughter got a game 519 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: that's it. I was racist, like, well, you are Steve 520 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: King so but like even then, we're we don't even 521 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: the legislators that are equipped with the idea that the 522 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: conceptually what this is and what the potential is of 523 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: this kind of thing. And that's where we're like, oh 524 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: man and and she in the this CI a former 525 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: CIA person, former Facebook and play even pointed to that. 526 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I don't even know if Congress is 527 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: fucking equipped even under like conceptually get down to what 528 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: this is. She was like, we we need a targeted 529 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: assassination to take care of the problems like the Jackal compromat. 530 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: Then maybe he shouldn't fly private too much. The thing about, uh, 531 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: do you have friends who have to this day to 532 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: this day? Uh? Not you who are not on Facebook? Uh? 533 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: I have. I have one friend who has avoided my 534 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: Space every fucking social media, like the whole He's a ghost. 535 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: He is not fucking available on this ship. And I 536 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: commend him because now I'm it wasn't even like him 537 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: being like, oh, I don't know. He was just sort 538 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: of like, what I gotta do? Sign up? I don't 539 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: even know. I get a fucking picture on my No 540 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm good, and then like now I'm like, this guy's 541 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: got it all figured out. Yeah, but it's funny, like 542 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: I feel like there are there are kinds of people 543 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: who were so suspicious that never engaged in it, and 544 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: then people like my my friend who was just too 545 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: lazy and didn't care enough about technology to be interested 546 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: in it until he was trying to use Tinder and 547 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: he's like, you need a Facebook account and he's like, 548 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm sure I'm just gonna use okay Cupid. 549 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: Then I don't need it. Good for him, Yeah, I 550 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: like his style. No, I mean, I barely funk with Facebook, 551 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: but I do funk with other social media platforms. It 552 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: does seem like young people make fun of people who 553 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: have Facebook, which is at least a little bit uplifting. 554 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: But they're gonna age into a category. They go, I 555 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: want to see everyone's baby photos. They're gonna merge into 556 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: it where because you see all that stuff like Snapchat 557 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: is such a great thing for the temporary nature of existence, 558 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: Like they're they're living life kind of knowing the previous 559 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: generation was like that was your great grandmother's table, So 560 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: you own that now and you have to keep it 561 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: forever and it means nothing to me. It takes up 562 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: a lot of space. It's been in the family, and 563 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: the younger people are like, oh I had this photo. 564 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: It was the greatest day of my life. It disappeared, Well, 565 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: never see it again. Such as life, what's next, what's 566 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: the next thing? I'm in the present, so potentially that 567 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: could be. I mean, of course, there's still ways to 568 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: data mind all of your stuff and sell your information 569 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: with that, but it's it's a little less like every 570 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: time people sit down and type anything on Facebook, they're saying, 571 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,239 Speaker 1: here's where I am, here's what I like, Here's how 572 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: you can mark it to me that yeah, this never 573 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: goes away, And that's what I've been saying. Snapchat is 574 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,479 Speaker 1: an entire philosophy. It's not just a platform, man, it's 575 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: all about uh. Yeah. It was interesting. I heard an 576 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: interview with Janine Garofalo where she she like still has 577 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: the like mindset of like somebody in the late nineties 578 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: who's like, I don't really funk with computers, but like, 579 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: you know, for like good like reasons that at the 580 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: time might have seemed paranoid, but now but like it 581 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: was just wild because I was like oh, yeah, I 582 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: haven't heard somebody like this since I was like ten 583 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: years old. Like people just like stopped having this concern. 584 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: Everyone was just like, yeah, we joined, Yeah, everything's good now. 585 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: But she was like, yeah, I don't really do computers, 586 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: and like I don't put anything on the internet. And 587 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: I was like, what a loser. But two years in 588 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: retrospect and like, oh, I'm gonna get those likes. For years, 589 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: I didn't have any of the stuff. And I sent 590 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: out a mailing list through my website starting in like 591 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: maybe two thousand seven or eight something like that. And 592 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: then it finally like avalanche where I just I couldn't 593 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: reach out and get in touch with people. They were 594 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: only available through the networks. So I was like, damn, 595 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: you used to be like search them or go to 596 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: their website or something like you might even have someone's 597 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: actual phone number written down. And then so I'm doing 598 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of stand up shows coming up, and I 599 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: sent out the mailing list for the first time in 600 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: like two years. It felt fantastic. It was just this 601 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: feeling like that's how I'd love to communicate. Here's what 602 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: I'm up to once a year or so, if you 603 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: want to email me back. Great, But I don't feel 604 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,479 Speaker 1: like it's healthy for humans to have to constantly be like, 605 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: I'm not dead. Here's the thing, I'm still alive. That is, 606 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: I do feel like they're people who post a lot 607 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: a lot on social media. I do feel like that 608 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: comes from an existential place of I'm not dead every 609 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: time they post. Yeah, I exist and I matter, And 610 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: this is the version of me that you will accept. Yes, 611 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,719 Speaker 1: if I look at someone's thing and they have like 612 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: fifty thou tweets, even if I like them, I will 613 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: never follow. You need something that I can't give you. 614 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: It's it's terrifying. Yea, this is coming from a place 615 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: of deep, unnerving need to screaming to the void. Man 616 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: speaking of people with really weird dicks, Leonardo DiCaprio doesn't know. 617 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: I have no idea. If he has a weird dick, 618 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: probably been sued. Jack probably has a gorgeous dick. Leonardo 619 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: dick Caprio, Hey, I mean that's I think that's my 620 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: favorite joke that anybody's made on our podcast to this point. 621 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:25,919 Speaker 1: Uh Anyway, Nerds Dick capriod Dick uh has is still 622 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: forced to answer questions about why Jack had to die 623 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,479 Speaker 1: at the end of Titanic, Like, so he's going around 624 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 1: doing press for his upcoming you know, Artsy Quentin Tarantino movie, 625 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: and people are like, so, why didn't you just get 626 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: on the door with Rose? Like you could have fit? 627 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: It was obviously pivoting, like being like and great, what 628 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: was it like to work with Quentin Tarantino? Okay, and 629 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: look I gotta ask, Like everyone's still harping on that 630 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: to the point that like he's really like pissed about 631 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: out it. Like Brad Pitt was with him on during 632 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: this interview and was like, yeah, could you have squeezed 633 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: in there? You could have, right, And Leonardo Kapro was like, 634 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: no comment, and he was like did you mention it 635 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: at the time that, Like Margot Robbie was like, yeah, 636 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: did you mention that at the time. To James Cameron, 637 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: he was like like, I said, I have no comment. 638 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: Oh why couldn't the boat just avoid the ice? Right exactly? 639 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: Could have been a chill film. I think that's a 640 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: I think that's the boat point to be honest, the 641 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: whole Like he should have just gotten on the door 642 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 1: because like it might not have floated, Like, well, that's 643 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: why there's been this is such a hotly contested topic, 644 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 1: like from people who made fucking diagrams of how they 645 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: both could have fit their bodies on the door, and 646 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: people were like, assuming their weight is this, and this 647 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: is the buoyancy of this would like but what how 648 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,720 Speaker 1: do you assume that? So MythBusters did an episode about 649 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 1: the door where they were like, the way he could 650 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: have done it is to rein force its buoyancy with 651 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: a life vest but that requires him to swim, Like well, 652 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: it's like twenty degree water, swim under the door and 653 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: like put a life vest on there. And this is 654 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: a point James Cameron had to make. He was like 655 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 1: in response to that, he's like, you're talking about the 656 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: MythBusters thing, right, Oh you're talking MythBusters. Well let me 657 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,760 Speaker 1: bust this for you. Yeah. Um, so I I agree 658 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: with James Cameron and on this and only this, uh 659 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: to quote Titanic. I mean, look, I think it's just 660 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: one of those things where people were so pissed that 661 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: he didn't have to die or something. But like, look, 662 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: that's why it's a fucking drama. Okay, it's fucking suspended 663 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: for a second to just be like, yeah, maybe he 664 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: fucking had he just died, Okay. James Cameron's like, you, 665 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 1: guys know I pilot submarines, right, Like you're gonna ask 666 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: me about this. He's like, yeah, I thought about it. 667 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: Oh you want to talk water stuff. Let's talk water stuff. 668 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: I create a new fucking c tech. But you know, 669 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: I think I think more people are pissed about the 670 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 1: necklace being thrown away. I'm just mad about Rose committing adultery, 671 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 1: right wow, and talks about that. You don't go to 672 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: movies to not see lion Dick and you don't go 673 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: to see acts of adultery. Yeah, I don't want to 674 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 1: go and watch a nice boat movie and then be 675 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: tempted by infidelity right by the fruit of another you 676 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 1: know the I mean that was for me. I didn't 677 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: care as much about jack Down was like great whatever, 678 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: Like sure, that's what happens in movies or whatever listens. No, 679 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: it it's the perfect sense. You know, that guy would 680 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: be a shitty husbands like, oh, I'm such a lovable 681 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: rogue drawing pictures of people like yeah, what are your 682 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: what do you? What job are you gonna do with? 683 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: Definitely fucked at least three other women. On during that 684 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: dance sequence in Steerage with all the Irish dancing. But 685 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: you don't know as she blinked her eyes and he 686 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: was sixty nine. The lady, you think yours is the 687 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: only handprint on this car window when you fog it up, 688 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 1: just hands over and all the other cars since serious 689 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 1: just to have handprints all over. So much heat was 690 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: coming off their genitals. They just fugged the whole thing up. 691 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: I mean, that guy was he was getting it in. 692 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 1: There's there's no way he wasn't. I also feel like 693 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: feeling like if they got off, like, hey, she still 694 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: would have been with cal right Billy Zane, like technically, 695 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: because didn't she say like she was still with him 696 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: until he like, well she shoot her, shoot her? Yeah, 697 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: but she at the end she just pretends that she 698 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: died and starts a completely new that's right, And then 699 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: she just heard tell of Cow's uh like fate where 700 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: he like shot himself after the market crashed in twenty 701 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: nine or something. Yes, I believe that's correct. I mean 702 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: I would have liked if she gave Cow some weird 703 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: like steerage std from you know Jack, like next thing 704 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: you know he's got like you know, lice and and 705 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: all the crabs and stuff from hanging out down there 706 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: with all those people. Yeah yeah, I feel like, but 707 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: then if they Jack and Rose are together living a 708 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,800 Speaker 1: secret life, are they mad stressed? Because he's like, yo, dude, 709 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: like I'm kind of paranoid because you're faked your own death. 710 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: You got that wild ass necklace that's worth a lot 711 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: of money, Like I'm wanted, like in France, I was 712 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: drawing all those French girls, which is a euphemism, and 713 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: also like can I tell you more stories about me 714 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: and Fabrizio? She was a chill dude. There's no way 715 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 1: that that necklace would have gone unsold, unpawned. If if 716 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 1: Jack had made it, he would have pawned that ship quick, 717 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,760 Speaker 1: all right. He gets like a bad like like heroin addiction. 718 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: He would have had gambling debts for sure. Yeah yeah, 719 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: oh man, see that's what that's the universe. You need 720 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: to explore what happens if they get off the boat. 721 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: She says, the necklace is Jack Dawson a good dude, right, 722 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,280 Speaker 1: It's also kind of fucked up for her husband because 723 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: like she has grandkids and stuff, and then she dies 724 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: and goes to Heaven and the at the end of 725 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: the movie and Jack is there. She goes to Heaven 726 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: in the movie. Yeah, I mean she dies and like 727 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: arrives and it's the ballroom full of Titanic passengers. Oh ship, 728 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: that does happen. Yeah, that does happen at the end. 729 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: Oh wow, I'm so But that means that like her husband, kids, 730 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: grandkids are all like, yo, where is she? What's just 731 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: supposed to be here? And she's just like off on 732 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: the Titanic homie, y'all don't know, hadn't been getting it 733 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: in in Heaven at the whole time. Man. Oh, she 734 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: walks in on him in steerage, like I should have 735 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: sold that necklace and started a nonprofit. Uh. And in 736 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: stear when she walks in on him in steerage, she's 737 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: just sitting back in the car with noise canceling headphones 738 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 1: on daping. DiCaprio actually has sex allegedly that should be 739 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: how Jack Fox then yes, and like in the Heaven sequence, 740 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 1: he's got air pods in vaping hardcore and like, just 741 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: do your thing, girl, not air pods, bro. No, he's 742 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: canceling headphones so that he can't he can just totally uh, 743 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 1: zone out, that's right. Listening to Mt. Electric Field. My 744 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: friend was driving people to you know, he went to 745 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: Coachella and he was like watching the concert and he 746 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 1: looked over and he sees this like he was sort 747 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 1: of like this very attractive woman sort of caught his 748 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: eye and then he looked over and he's like, why 749 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: is she making out with that really gross, like fat, 750 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,240 Speaker 1: just disheveled looking dude. And he's looking and he realized 751 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: it's Leonardo DiCaprio, and like at a certain point, apparently 752 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: like Leonardo DiCaprio like left and the girl was like 753 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,359 Speaker 1: still like dancing, like waiting for him to come back. 754 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: And he's like, yeah, how is that. I was there 755 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 1: for like two hours and she was still in the 756 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 1: same spot. I was like waiting for Leo to come back, 757 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 1: and she probably would have dancing by herself there all day. 758 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: He went little did she know? He went to steerage. 759 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 1: When you coach Ella is the Doo Lab? Yeah, I 760 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,760 Speaker 1: don't even know what that is. Joke for the homies. 761 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 1: I pretended like I got it, but I didn't. Yeah, 762 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,359 Speaker 1: the real plot hole, like you said, our writer Jan 763 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: was pointing out that she really did not have to 764 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 1: throw that, like, well, how much did they say it 765 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: was worth? The diamond it was like the rarest diamond 766 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,800 Speaker 1: on earth basically to that hundreds of millions of dollars, 767 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: and she like threw it out for romantic reasons, like 768 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: as opposed to just like selling it and feeding a 769 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 1: village for the rest of time for kids are like 770 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 1: I had to take out student loans. Hell, yeah, there 771 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 1: is if you actually search how much was the Heart 772 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 1: of the Ocean worth? It? Says the very famous jeweler 773 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 1: Harry Winston, known for having owned the Hope diamond uh 774 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: and many other diamonds, made his own take on the 775 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,280 Speaker 1: Heart of the Ocean diamond using a real blue diamond 776 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,280 Speaker 1: fIF carrot. This piece is worth ten times as much 777 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:59,359 Speaker 1: as the previous example valued at twenty million. So I 778 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: guess twenty times as much as the previous which was 779 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 1: ten million as the previous example. What does that? Does 780 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 1: that mean the real hard look ship was worth a 781 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 1: lot rose You could have done something with it. It's 782 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: gonna be hard to find defense. It's like, yeah, we 783 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,240 Speaker 1: need someone who has two hundred million dollars to flow 784 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 1: on a rock. Point. Very good point. Huh, Well, I 785 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: don't know if I have a buyer for that. Look, 786 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna take another quick break. We'll be 787 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: right back, and we're back. All right, let's talk about 788 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: Sylvester Stallone. Yeah, you know, I got right Racey. You 789 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: knows they can say, don't I got rights. I don't 790 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,359 Speaker 1: think I could do anything. You can say the hell 791 00:43:55,400 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 1: out of that phrase. He wants to reboot Rocky somehow 792 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: he did that right, Like Creed was a great movie, 793 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: and you know Creed two. I haven't seen, but Creed 794 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,839 Speaker 1: two Electric Boogleloo. Yeah, it's pretty good. Years the last 795 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 1: thing we saw. Yeah, he's seventy three. There's no way that. 796 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 1: I mean, the point of a Rocky movie is that 797 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 1: Rocky fights at the end of the Rocky movie. Yeah, 798 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 1: but now he's fighting against osteoporosis, and so that'll be 799 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,919 Speaker 1: really out of calcium. Yeah, I mean so in this one. 800 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 1: Uh they said so. He didn't interview with interview recently 801 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: where he talked about a lot of things, but when 802 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 1: they talked about a sequel, Stallone says there's a good 803 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 1: chance that Rocky may ride again. He then goes on 804 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 1: to divulge the plot of the sequel, which involves now 805 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,800 Speaker 1: get this ship, Rocky quote befriending a young street fighter 806 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 1: living in the US illegally, Rocky means a young angry person. 807 00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 1: When he comes to see you, sister, he takes him 808 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: into his living an unbelievable adventure begins and they wind 809 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 1: up south of the border. It's very, very timely. What 810 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:13,240 Speaker 1: the fuck is this? I mean, White fight Savior fucking 811 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 1: what the seventy three year old Rocky is like running 812 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: around on like border crossing adventures? Immigration advocate? Yeah, yeah, 813 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 1: I know, he looks amazing, right does he look? I mean, 814 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 1: if you pump yourself up with enough H G H 815 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,799 Speaker 1: or whatever the funk else like a melting novelty camp. 816 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I'm sure. I mean I can only 817 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: guess he's like, yeah, you know, it's gonna be Mexican, 818 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 1: you know, I mean he has so he had the 819 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 1: perfect mind for the eighties, because like so, the idea 820 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: of Rocky going to Russia to win the Cold War 821 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 1: was just the right amount of cheesiness for the eighties. 822 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,360 Speaker 1: But right now, like it's like two on the notes aggressive, 823 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 1: It's just it doesn't it doesn't work for the modern world. Yeah, 824 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 1: you know, he's gonna go to Mexico and fight the mafia. 825 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 1: Yeah out, like what the means what it will bring 826 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: it in the stuff? You know you're gonna fight him, 827 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 1: Like Okay. The other thing is, though he wants to 828 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 1: do a TV prequel series, this guy is trying to 829 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,799 Speaker 1: bite the whole fucking apple. And but this is where 830 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 1: he was like, I bet I can't do that because 831 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 1: a he doesn't even own the intellectual property rights to 832 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,359 Speaker 1: anything having to do with Rocky. He was fucking hoodwinked 833 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 1: out of his IP rights to Rocky. He fucking he 834 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 1: created Rocky right, the fucking writer of it. It's a 835 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,959 Speaker 1: pretty common thing actually, yeah, yeah, he wrote it when 836 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: he was a nobody in Hollywood and like right sold 837 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:54,399 Speaker 1: it to the studio. Like the studio didn't even want 838 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 1: him to be the person in it, and he like 839 00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,439 Speaker 1: had to basically put his foot down and be like, look, 840 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 1: you can have the intellectual property. Just let me just 841 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 1: let me fight, you know, let me look. But I think, yeah, 842 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 1: I think the producer who does have the rights are own. 843 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 1: Winkler like has a good relationship with Sylvester Stalone. So 844 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 1: he's the one who's always been like okay, like yeah, 845 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,839 Speaker 1: let's do another one. Maybe not this pretty cool thing, 846 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: but also you know, I'm like I got old guy 847 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,879 Speaker 1: meeting a young angry kid fighter is also creede. Right, yeah, 848 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: it's like mean this time, yes, hear to come out 849 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:41,279 Speaker 1: and see the movies. Uh. Rocky is also based on like, 850 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 1: so Stallone went and saw this fight where a guy 851 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 1: named Chuck Webner basically like made it to the last 852 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 1: round with Muhammad Ali, and so Rocky is essentially a 853 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 1: true story. And Sylvester Stalone just like never gave this 854 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 1: guy credit, and like at first he was like, yeah, 855 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 1: it's based on Chuck Wepner, and then people who are like, 856 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 1: that's not and he's like, it's not based on anyone. 857 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:09,879 Speaker 1: It's Rocky. Uh so yeah, kind of fucked up Chuck 858 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 1: Weapner like signs uh boxing gloves and like a you know, 859 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,919 Speaker 1: one bedroom house for living these days. Oh man, really 860 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 1: one bedroom house sounds pretty nice. Yeah, it's actually beautiful. 861 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 1: It's like a Santa Monica bungalow. It's really it's like 862 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,799 Speaker 1: on one of those streets right off ocean that's like 863 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,879 Speaker 1: kind of those preserved areas. Right, all right, that's gonna 864 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 1: do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and 865 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:43,359 Speaker 1: review the show. If you like the show, uh means 866 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 1: the world to Miles. He needs your validation, folks. I 867 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,839 Speaker 1: hope you're having a great weekend and I will talk 868 00:48:50,880 --> 00:49:01,360 Speaker 1: to him Monday. By S.