1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: A familiar face is back on the practice field. Got 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: Danny surrec with me Bird Gang. Actually, there were a 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 1: couple of familiar faces back on Wednesday. We'll start though, 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: with Trey Benson. It's been a little while and his 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: return comes at a good time. Also, what does Michael 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: Wilson do for an encore? And just how effective has 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: Walter Nolan been in a short amount of time? By 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: the way, it's Cardinals Cover two, Episode nine eight, and 9 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: it starts now. 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: Who to Baker? What Heart? What rent? 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Right up the five hit the 15 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: ends up for the Cardinal touchdown. 16 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: Drey McBride, he's been an absolute monster. 17 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: Here's Craig Grioler. 18 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: So how about we start with some good news here 19 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: on a Wednesday, Danny, because I think we're all in 20 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: need of some good news considering how one the season 21 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 1: has gone, and two how each of the past two 22 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: weeks have gone for the Arizona Cardinals. But it was 23 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: good one to hear it and then see it later 24 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: in the morning. Trey Benson, according to head coach Jonathan 25 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: get In, in the morning, had his twenty one day practice 26 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: window opened up, and then a couple of hours later 27 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: we actually did see number thirty three on the practice field. 28 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: He was limited, but it certainly looked good to see 29 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: Trey on the field because it's been a little while. 30 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, it's always good to see a player back 31 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: on the practice field when they've missed a couple of 32 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks, and it's been seven weeks, six 33 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 3: games that Benson has missed with a knee injury. It's 34 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 3: not to say that he'll be ready to go Sunday. 35 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: He still remains on ir and it's the start of 36 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: a twenty one day practice window, so that's how long 37 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 3: the team has to make a decision on whether or 38 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 3: not you make a spot for him on the roster 39 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: or he's done for the year. And look, it's good 40 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 3: to see him out there. He wasn't wearing a brace, 41 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 3: but I'm not gonna pretend like he's out there with 42 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 3: the change direction and his ability to jolt the way 43 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 3: that he was before, which is okay. That's expected. It's 44 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: his first practice back. There's a good chance he looks 45 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 3: very different come Friday after having a few more days 46 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 3: under his belt. But when he does make his return, 47 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 3: it'll be some added relief to a run game. 48 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: The key will be how does Tray feel on Thursday 49 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 1: the day after, and then if he's in pads on Thursday, 50 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: how does he feel Friday the day after that? And 51 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: then you progress. But it is something. And again I've 52 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: been wrong more times than right when it comes to 53 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: these practice windows, because typically the team utilizes all twenty 54 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: one days. With these injuries, they play it cautious. Bijo 55 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: Julari came back in two weeks a couple of years ago, 56 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker one week. Again, every player is different, and 57 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: keep this in mind as well, berg Gang, this wasn't 58 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: just a knee injury. To do Adam Schefter. Benson underwent 59 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: arthroscoptic surgery on his meniscus, so there is more to 60 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: this than just Hey, he hurt his knee. Let's give 61 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: him four weeks on ir Okay. 62 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 3: I don't want to be negative, Nancy. I don't want 63 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 3: to necessarily point fingers, but let this be a lesson 64 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 3: to everybody who's mentioning me on Twitter clamoring me about 65 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 3: why Benson hasn't returned after the minimum four weeks, or 66 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 3: why we weren't tweeting about him not practicing when his 67 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 3: practice window wasn't opened. I thought we had all learned 68 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: from Bijo Jalari of sometimes an injury or recovery in 69 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 3: the rehab process, it's a lot more extensive and more 70 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 3: intense than we are given information on than fans are 71 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 3: maybe led to believe. Doesn't mean the player's lazy. Doesn't 72 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 3: mean that, you know what I mean? Like, the minimum 73 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 3: was four weeks, and everyone's been clamoring me on Twitter 74 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 3: of why isn't Benson back? He's supposed to be back 75 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 3: or he wasn't supposed to be back. No, no one 76 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: said that, So everyone just take a deep breath. It's okay. 77 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: Injured reserve meaning you are out at minimum four weeks. 78 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean after four weeks you're automatically returning. It's 79 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: a designation to give the team an open roster spot 80 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: because the player is unavailable. So yes, leave Danny sireka 81 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: Alon when it comes to Trey Benson. Although I'll say 82 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: this when Trey does come back, whether that's this week 83 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: or next week. I was looking at some of the numbers. 84 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: I did not realize this, but he was averaging five 85 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: and a half yards a carry over his twenty nine 86 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: carries this season. Again, he was supposed to be the 87 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: guy when James Connor went out, and then the following 88 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: week Trey Benson gets hurt and lands on IR. So 89 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: we haven't really seen at least this season RB one 90 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: when it comes to Trey Benson. 91 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 3: In hindsight, the fact that the Cardinals had to put 92 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 3: their number one running back on injured reserve back to 93 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 3: back weeks was a bit of foreshadowing for some of 94 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,559 Speaker 3: the injuries they would sustain this year. And that's true. 95 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 3: Is when you get Benson back, that is a huge 96 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 3: boost to this offense. Now, look, even when Benson and 97 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 3: Connor were both healthy for the first few weeks, it's 98 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: not like the run game was absolutely stellar, and it's 99 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 3: not like it's really picked up quite a bit since then. 100 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 3: But if you are able to get Benson back, that 101 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 3: is a huge relief, and that does give you some 102 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: added juice to the run game that is still looking 103 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: to really get going. 104 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: It's a good point because it certainly would help specifically 105 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: this week, because, as announced on Wednesday, Amaro de Mericado 106 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: will not play this week. He is out with an 107 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: ankle injury. Adam Schefter reported it's a high ankle sprain, 108 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: so that might mean more time missed. And remember Amari 109 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: missed week seven with an ankle injury, and then Bam 110 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: Knight's limited in practice on Wednesday with an ankle injury 111 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: of his own. So right now the only healthy running 112 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: back on the roster is Michael Carter. You do have 113 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: Jamar Jefferson on practice squad. So again, do we think 114 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: Trey Benson is going to play this week? Based off 115 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: what we both saw on Wednesday, I'd be leaning towards no, 116 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: But it's Wednesday. They're still Thursday, Friday, Saturday before decision 117 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: needs to be made. 118 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 3: Stranger things have certainly happened to Craig. 119 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: Question is, though, if you do not have Trey, you 120 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,239 Speaker 1: do not have Amari, You've got Bam Knight, Michael Carter. 121 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: My guess is Jefferson would get elevated, and then you're asking, Okay, 122 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,559 Speaker 1: who's your third down back? Because we know both Bam 123 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: and Michael can run the ball. But it's that third 124 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: down pass protection. 125 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 3: John Gains, We've seen him at full back or half 126 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 3: back a few times. Maybe you pop that offensive lineman 127 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 3: back there. 128 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: That's a nice wrinkle. I'm trying to visualize that. And 129 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: then I just hear Ron woofully in the back of 130 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: my head screen full back, full back. But hey, it's 131 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: at this point, especially based off what you just said 132 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: about the run game and how it hasn't really been 133 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: what we've anticipated it being considering how well this team 134 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: has run each of the past two years, maybe you 135 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: do need that extra blocker, not on the line of scrimmage, 136 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: which we've seen a lot of, but maybe in the 137 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: backfield as again, an extra guy to kind of help 138 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: open up those rushing lanes. 139 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 3: I definitely think. I think every possibility is on the table. 140 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 3: I mean, you want to talk about offensive lineman, what 141 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 3: is that old line gonna look like? Because will Hernandez, 142 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 3: Jonah Williams, and Calvin Beachum all three did not practice Wednesday. 143 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 3: It's a groin for Beacham, knee for Hernandez, shoulder for 144 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: Williams who missed last week's game, and Beacham and Hernandez 145 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 3: both I don't want to say reaggravated, because I don't 146 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 3: know if that's true, but Beacham left the game with 147 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: a groin injury that had been keeping him limited and 148 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 3: practice leading up to that game. So if you don't 149 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 3: have those three, it's gonna likely gonna be Isaiah Adams 150 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: as your right guard and the rookie Josh Schreyer at 151 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,679 Speaker 3: right tackle. So I'd imagine, yeah, maybe an offensive lineman 152 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 3: like Gains for some extra protection might be nice for 153 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: Brissett and whoever is in a running back. 154 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: Interesting because I think we're at that point in the 155 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: season here, getting ready for Week twelve to where I'm 156 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: sure there's a segment of the fan base that would 157 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: like to see some of these younger players see more action. 158 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: In the case of right guard Isaiah Adams, who did 159 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: play four series, including the final touchdown drive of the 160 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: game on Sunday, And here's someone that started the season 161 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: and then everyone clamoring for Will to come back. He 162 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: comes back, plays well, but I don't think he's completely 163 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: all the way there yet as far as what we 164 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: typically see out of Will Hernandez as far as his 165 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: lateral movement and when they pull him and maybe stepping 166 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: back and watching for Isaiah maybe has not a different appreciation, 167 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: but maybe a different focus or coming back. Okay, now, 168 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: I know you get that experience at the start of 169 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: the season, you take a step back, and now coming 170 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: back maybe starting or getting more time. Because if you 171 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: look at it, here's a draft pick a day three 172 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: excuse me, a day two? Yeah, day three, draft pick, No, 173 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: Day two. He was a third round pick. Isaiah Adams 174 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: was a Day two pick. So someone that you invested 175 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: a high I would say, a high draft pick in 176 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: that you hope is now not just here for three 177 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: or four years, but potentially could be part of that 178 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: offensive line for a long time. 179 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 3: This is the part where you see if you're getting 180 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 3: that return on investment there. You know, we saw Adams, 181 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 3: he looked good, and then will Hernandez comes back and 182 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 3: when he's healthy, right, that's why you bring him back. 183 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 3: And Hernandez won out that battle. It's clear though that 184 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 3: the knee that he suffered that season enging injury early 185 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 3: last year that he's been recovering from is something that's 186 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 3: keeping him limited, which is somewhat expected. So as he 187 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 3: continues to work through that, this is a great opportunity 188 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 3: for Adams, and you're right, You're going to get to 189 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 3: a point in the season right where this is the 190 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 3: time to step up. This is where these young players, 191 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 3: someone like Adams who didn't really play a lot last 192 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 3: year and got that year to get stronger and get 193 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 3: a few reps and then had a lot of experience 194 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 3: early on in the season. This is all his opportunity 195 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 3: now of I'm going to come back, if I start, 196 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 3: if I get more reps, I'm going to prove my 197 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 3: value to this team. 198 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: And remember how much we talked about it in training camp, 199 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: because because there was a lot of attention on right 200 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: guard and Isaiah Adams and you know, you and I 201 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: went back and forth a lot, and we saw Adams 202 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: win the job. He was the best at that position. 203 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: And it wasn't like he was half speed, but this 204 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: was full contact, not only practice but preseason games in 205 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: which he was holding his own and one on ones, 206 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: and it looked good to where you were like, Okay, 207 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: not that you don't need a Will Hernandez, but Will's 208 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: not available. Isaiah Adams, especially with veterans on either side 209 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: of him, yelleda and Jonah, Okay, maybe you can plug 210 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: in in Isaiah Adams and be Okay. Now, I think 211 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: the entire offensive line has had its ups and downs 212 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: all season. I don't know if there's a real strength 213 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: outside of maybe Paris on the left side, but they 214 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: have all I think, if everyone is being honest, they've 215 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: all had their moments this season where it's like, Okay, 216 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: we can play a lot better individually and as a unit. 217 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And look, they're going to say that every week, 218 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: right Like, I don't think we're ever going to find 219 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 3: a week where Reveren's gonna say, wow, we really had 220 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 3: an absolutely incredible game. These are professional athletes at the 221 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 3: highest level who are always going to want to be better. 222 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 3: It is really great, though, that they didn't give up 223 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 3: a sack against the forty nine ers. Now that's not 224 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 3: a defense who's necessarily generating a lot of pressure, especially 225 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 3: without having Nick Bosa, but still that's something to hang 226 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 3: your hat on. Is they kept the pocket clean enough 227 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 3: for Jacoby Bursett to get the ball out. 228 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: And Jacoby brought that up on an unprompted on Wednesday 229 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: when he addressed reporters post practice and wanted to make 230 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: sure that he knew that it wasn't as many times 231 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: as he dropped back fifty seven attempts. That the fact 232 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: that he was not sack. Yeah, he was hit, and 233 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: forget about who the defensive players were who was rushing him, 234 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: But you dropped back that many times when your opponent 235 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: knows you're dropping back and they can pin their ears 236 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: back and get after you. And the fact that he 237 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: was kept upright, Jacoby wanted to make sure, Hey, credit 238 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: the offensive line. Now, Paris asked about that post practice, 239 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: said yeah, but credit Jacoby as well, because he stood 240 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: in there, absorbed those hits and before getting sacked, was 241 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: able to get rid of the football. So again it 242 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: goes back and forth. But Jacoby can't do anything. If 243 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: those five guys in front of them aren't doing their job. 244 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 3: It's going to be a tougher challenge against Jacksonville, which 245 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 3: is Jacksonville is always so intriguing to. 246 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: Me, maybe because we don't see. 247 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Cardinals don't really play them a lot, so 248 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 3: it's just kind of a team you just kind of 249 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 3: look at from afar. But like Trevor Lawrence is a 250 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 3: great microcosm of that. Is the quarterback is known for 251 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 3: throwing just as many interceptions as he has touchdowns. He 252 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 3: is really hot and cold. And that's how the Jaguars 253 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 3: have kind of been this year. I mean, they've got 254 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 3: six wins, right, so clearly doing something right. But the 255 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 3: last few weeks coming out of their by they've been hot. 256 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 3: I mean, their defense is generating pressure. Jacksonville generated pressure 257 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 3: on fifty percent of the Chargers dropbacks last week. I 258 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 3: mean they kept the Chargers to what six points? They 259 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 3: just completely dominated them. So this, this defensive front for 260 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 3: Jacksonville is going to pose a threat for the Cardinals offense, 261 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 3: especially when you're looking in the backfield of Jacksonville's defense 262 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 3: and they've got second best eighteen takeaways, thirteen of those interceptions. 263 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: The pressure that the Jaguars got on Justin Herbert last 264 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: week was impressive. They got three sacks as well, but 265 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: they did not blitz hardly at all, so they're able 266 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: to get home which is four which again the difference 267 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: between the forty nine Ers defense and the Jaguars defense 268 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: coming up on Sunday, much more attention on the Cardinals 269 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: offensive line, and as you look at who may or 270 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: may not be available on the offensive line, who may 271 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: or may not be available at the running back position, 272 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: goes back to our conversation about Michael Wilson and what 273 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: he was able to do, and now knowing that Marvin 274 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: Harrison Junior is not going to be available this week, 275 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: missing his second straight game because of appendicitis. So what 276 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: do you do if you're Drew petsing against this Jacksonville defense? 277 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: Michael Wills, Yeah, I mean it's okay. I've always maintained 278 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: that I don't think you can sustain or be successful 279 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: when you're consistently throwing forty one more times a game. 280 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: I just to me, it just doesn't work. Now every 281 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: once in a while, sure, but we're at that point 282 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: in the season, Danny, where this team needs to win. 283 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: So if Jacoby's got to throw it fifty five times, 284 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: fifty seven times, whatever it takes, because right now, the 285 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: passing game, if you're looking at this offense, the passing 286 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: game is what is leading this team. It's not the 287 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: run game. 288 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 3: If for Sett throws fifty seven times in a second 289 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 3: straight week, he might need Tommy John surgery. I am 290 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 3: right there with you. You gotta do whatever it takes. 291 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 3: Doesn't mean you want to get away from the run game. 292 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 3: Doesn't mean you ever don't want to try to establish 293 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 3: that to wear down a defense, be in control open 294 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: up the rest of the playbook. The way to do that, though, 295 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: is having a hotter start. The Cardinals the last two 296 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 3: weeks have gotten so far behind so early that they 297 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: have no choice but to be an obvious passing downs 298 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 3: from a Georgi of the game. I mean, that's part 299 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 3: of the reason it was so lopsided against Seattle, as 300 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 3: Sam Darnold threw the ball twelve times as opposed to 301 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 3: their forty six runs, because Seattle had such a lead 302 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 3: from the get go. And then you look at the 303 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 3: Cardinals and Brissett throws fifty seven times forty seven completions, 304 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 3: which is incredibly impressive. That's because the Cardinals were behind. 305 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 3: They were down seven to nothing sixteen seconds into the 306 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 3: game against the Niners because of a ninety eight yard 307 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 3: kickoff return which ended in a Christian McCaffrey touchdown. So 308 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 3: you have to have a hotter start so that you 309 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 3: can be in more control. If the Cardinals have to 310 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 3: rely on the passing game, especially if Benson is not 311 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 3: able to go, if that's what works, then that's what 312 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 3: we're Honestly, you gotta put points on the board, and 313 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 3: you got to start stringing along some wins, and Wilson 314 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 3: is coming off an absolutely unbelievable performance, his best game 315 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 3: since high school. In his words, fifteen catches on eighteen 316 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 3: targets for one hundred and eighty five yards. No other 317 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 3: player has had more receiving yards in a game this season. 318 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 3: The two of them were on fire, and it wasn't 319 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 3: just I don't want to say clean catches by any means, 320 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 3: but they were contestant and Wilson was making acrobatic catches 321 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 3: where he was turning around, making adjustments mythrow, contorting his body, 322 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 3: falling to the ground with a defender on his hip 323 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 3: or hand in his face. Those two really were a 324 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 3: nice duo last week, and that needs to continue against Jacksonville. 325 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: One of the more impressive performances by a wide receiver 326 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: in a Cardinals uniform that I've seen, and that includes 327 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: watching Larry Fitzgerald and Kwan Bolden and DeAndre Hopkins. So yeah, 328 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: it's right up there for one game. Now, the question is, okay, 329 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: can you do it again? How do you do that? Now? 330 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: Knowing that okay, one, there was a lot of attention 331 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: last week on Michael Hey, you're the guy. Now, can 332 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: you handle it. Okay, he can handle it. Now it's Jacksonville. Hey, 333 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: they don't have Marvin again. We can't let Michael go 334 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: off for another fifteen catch performance. You don't want to 335 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: go away from your best pass catcher, at least wide receiver. 336 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: Plus Trey McBride was outstanding last week as well. He's 337 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: always been good this entire season. But I think what 338 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: we saw last week was Michael Wilson proving to himself 339 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: first of all, which he acknowledged the Paul Calvis and 340 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: the Cardinals locker room show, and then to everyone else, Hey, 341 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: when given the opportunity, I can be that guy. And 342 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: now you potentially are gonna have to be that guy 343 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: at least for one more week and maybe longer depending 344 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: on when Marvin is back. 345 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 3: I love that take advantage of the opportunity. There was 346 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 3: so much outside discussion about this offseason whether or not 347 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 3: the Cardinals needed to bring in a number two wide receiver, 348 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 3: and it's now seeming maybe that Wilson just hasn't had 349 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 3: the opportunities to show that he has what it takes 350 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 3: to be a number two receiver. Or maybe that one A, 351 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 3: one B and maybe you split some of the attention 352 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 3: if he's just on fire. Once Harrison comes back, I'll 353 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 3: be curious how Jacksonville defends Wilson because can't really double 354 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 3: team him, because what are you gonna do about Trem 355 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 3: mc bride, right, He can't really double g McBride because 356 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 3: then you know, So it'll be interested to see how 357 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 3: Jacksonville kind of attacks having those two players that are 358 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 3: both coming off just really good games. I know that 359 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 3: it ended in a loss, but if you if you're 360 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 3: watching the game and you're able to objectively look at 361 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 3: it that way, great performances. 362 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: And the connection that Jacoby and Michael have won. It's 363 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: I think a product of a lot of post practice 364 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: work because there wasn't a lot of time together in 365 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: the offseason, training camp, preseason, the start of the season 366 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: because Jacoby's not throwing consistently to Marvin or to Michael 367 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: or to Trey. Now. We did hear Marvin mentioned and 368 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: believe a couple of weeks back that there had been 369 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: some post practice even before Kyler's injury, that they were 370 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: looking to get some extra work. But that was more 371 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: Marvin wanting some extra work for himself than it was 372 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: I want to work with Jacoby Marvin needed some things 373 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: that he wanted to work on. I needed a quarterback 374 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: who's got, you know, an arm, Let's go out and 375 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: throw it. All of a sudden, I think that work 376 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: is paying off, and it's certainly paying off with Michael Wilson. 377 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: And it's again you hear about it, chemistry connection, whatever 378 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:13,479 Speaker 1: it is. But it was almost instant when Jacoby stepped 379 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: in there and became QB one, all of a sudden, 380 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: the numbers for Michael Wilson went way, way up. 381 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 3: It also helps when the backup quarterback has been playing 382 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 3: for a decade. Brissette has thrown to a lot of receivers, 383 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 3: he has read a lot of defenses. He's been under 384 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 3: a lot of pressure, right, so that also helps in 385 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 3: kind of knowing how to expedite that process. 386 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: And Michael does a very good job of getting open. 387 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 1: And I think even if there is some extra attention, 388 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 1: he'll find a way. Because you brought it up. It 389 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: wasn't like Michael was wide open on any of these 390 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: pass attempts. It was in traffic, it was going deep, 391 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: it was down the middle, it was coming across the 392 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: middle of the field, and he does a very good 393 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: of making sure that he catches that ball out in 394 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: front of him and if he can't get it, he's 395 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: going to make sure the defender does not have a 396 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: chance at the football. So very I'm actually excited to 397 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: see what Michael Wilson does for an encore to say, 398 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: all right, yeah, it wasn't just a one hit wonder. 399 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: I wasn't just a flash in the pan. I can 400 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: be this guy if you give me the opportunity. And 401 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: the one thing about Michael is he is going to 402 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: be on the field because of his ability to block. 403 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: And that was something that Jonathan Gannon mentioned Monday that 404 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: the best play that he saw Michael make was on 405 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: the Bam Night touchdown that wasn't a touchdown, and it's 406 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: because of plays like that that regardless of who is 407 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: on the other side of him or what happens with 408 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: Marvin or Trey, Michael Wilson is going to find a 409 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: part or be a big piece within this offense. 410 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 3: If that touchdown had counted, it wouldn't have happened without 411 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 3: that block by Wilson. It was crucial down the stretch 412 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 3: to open things up for Night and that just says 413 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 3: a lot about the type of player he is. It's 414 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 3: not you know, the player speak. Whenever Wilson says, you 415 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 3: know what I just gotta do. I gotta star my 416 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 3: role whatever is asked of me. I know that I'm 417 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 3: not going to be the most targeted receiver when I 418 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 3: look around the room. I just got to do what's 419 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 3: asked of me. And that's proof that he had eighteen 420 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 3: targets and he was still the one with the crucial 421 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 3: block downfield for Bam Knight. 422 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: It says a lot about a player, but it's really 423 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: the person knowing your situation. And I think Michael understands 424 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: his place within this offense, within this wide receiver room. 425 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: Yet that doesn't mean he's not capable of being a 426 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: number one guy. He brought up one, A, one B. 427 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: If what we have seen has done something to unlock 428 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: Michael Wilson. Now looking ahead, whether that's this week or whenever, 429 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: all three are healthy, but Marvin Harrison Junior, Michael Wilson, 430 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: Tray McBride, that's a pretty solid one two punch in 431 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: the wide receiver room plus to tie end and then 432 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: you just got to figure out what you do it 433 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: running back, whether that's James or Trey. But that's certainly 434 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: a nice it's a pretty solid foundation as far as 435 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: pass catchers moving forward the rest of this year and 436 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: next year. 437 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 3: Absolutely, it is time, though to string it together right. 438 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 3: And I don't want to take away that's a great game. 439 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 3: He has another opportunity to do again against a very 440 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 3: good of very stingy Jacksonville Secondary. So it's time to 441 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 3: show up. 442 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:22,479 Speaker 1: Jaguars defensively second best against the run, bottom third against 443 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: the pass. So again, going back to our discussion, if 444 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: you're Drew Petsing, do you dial it up a little 445 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: bit more? Because if that run game, yeah, you're gonna 446 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,719 Speaker 1: have to at least try to run the football. I'm 447 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: not saying come out and shotgun and you're dropping back 448 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: twenty straight times. I don't think you'll see that. But 449 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: you brought up something earlier as far as if you 450 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: can get off to a lead and not have to 451 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: play catch up, because then all of a sudden, if 452 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: you're trailing by a possession or two, then a lot 453 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: of that playbook goes out the window, no matter how 454 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: much time is left in the game. So if you 455 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: can established the run but just get some points on 456 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: the board, I'd love to see this team win the 457 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: toss and elect to receive and put the offense on 458 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: the field. That's what we see, especially at home. Get 459 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: that home, get the crowd excited about what they saw 460 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: last week and the numbers that Chacobe put up and 461 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: Michael and Trey. I know it goes against what we 462 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: have typically seen. If you win the toss, you the first, 463 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: you can kind of double up in first half beginning 464 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: of the second half, but switch it up and put 465 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: Jacoby in the offense on the field. Now maybe it 466 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: might maybe that might not be their decision because the 467 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: Jaguars will win the toss and defers so we see it. 468 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: But if the Cardinals win the toss, I'd love to 469 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: see them to say we want our offense on the 470 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: field first. 471 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 3: Oh do you want better? What about a Greg doorsch 472 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 3: ninety eight yard kickoff return that leads to a touchdown, Craig, I. 473 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: Could do that, just go special teams touchdown and then 474 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: the offense just you know, waits there you go, but 475 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: they're playing from ahead because of special teams. 476 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 3: Yes, that's what you want. That would really open up 477 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 3: for the Cardinals. And I think two is kind of 478 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 3: settle themselves right. Get that confidence back up in the 479 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 3: beginning of the. 480 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: Games Cardinals and Jaguars coming up on Sunday. That's a 481 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: two ZHO five kickoff. By the way, nine to thirty 482 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: pre game coverage begins on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. Defensively, 483 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: as we look at this Cardinals team one, as far 484 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: as who was and who wasn't out at practice, Will Johnson, Rabbit, 485 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: Taylor Demerson, Baron Browning all not at practice on Wednesday. 486 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: Will continues to deal with a hip slash, back Rabbit 487 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: and ankle, and Baron remains in concussion protocol. Again, We'll 488 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: see what happens between now and Sunday. But I think defensively, 489 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: what we're seeing is maybe a little bit better better 490 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: production up front, specifically Walter Nolan the third he has 491 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: only played three games. Danny and I know we don't 492 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: want to get over our head over our skis on 493 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: a lot of this because it's a small sample size 494 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: and we've had a wait so long to see him 495 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: and act. But he continues to look good regardless of 496 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: showing up in the stat sheet. But he continues to 497 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 1: look good, and more importantly, he's earning praise from his 498 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: head coach and his defensive coordinator about what he is 499 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: doing affecting the pocket, whether it's a play for him 500 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: or a play for someone else. 501 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 3: It's still small sample size, just three games, but what 502 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 3: a great three games. I mean, first of all, what 503 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 3: a great debut in Dallas against the Cowboys. I mean, 504 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 3: he really showed up on the stat sheet there. Even 505 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 3: though he hasn't shown up in that way the last 506 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 3: two games against Seattle and San Francisco, he's still making 507 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 3: an impact. That Josh sweatsack against San Francisco does not 508 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 3: happen without the interior pressure from Nolan. He is consistently 509 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 3: winning his one on ones and he's getting into the 510 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 3: backfield and he's putting the pressure on the quarterback. That's 511 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 3: why you drafted him as high as you did. So 512 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 3: it's I'm excited, right, but it's kind of like, Okay, 513 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 3: tempered a little right. Remember it's a small sample size. 514 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 3: But that's also what's so great is like he is 515 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 3: still getting comfortable, right, Like he is still getting used 516 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 3: to one probably what his body is going through every week, 517 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,479 Speaker 3: and then what's also taking mentally and putting everything together. 518 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 3: I will say, if this very small sample size is 519 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 3: an idea of what is to come that's a home 520 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 3: run of a draft pack. 521 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: More importantly than what he has shown on the field 522 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: is something that Jag said Wednesday is Nolan is not 523 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: making a lot of mistakes. And one that's a credit 524 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: to the coaching he's receiving, and two is a credit 525 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: to Walter himself because it shows that even when he 526 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: was not on the practice field, he was in the 527 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: classroom studying and understanding what his role was going to 528 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: be once he got on the field. And then once 529 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: on the field, take what you learn from the classroom, 530 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: apply it onto the field and make sure you're in 531 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: the right place. And sometimes that's not easy because there's 532 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people that can that can learn in 533 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: a classroom, but they are more learning by their actions, 534 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: hands on, hands on learning. Yeah, where you reps, you 535 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: learn from the reps, and there are others that can 536 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: just carry it over from the classroom monitor the field. 537 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 1: It certainly sounds and looks like Walter has done exactly that, 538 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: because if you're not making a ton of mistakes three 539 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: games in in the middle of the season, where everyone 540 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: else is light years ahead of you, I think that 541 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: speaks volumes. 542 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, if you're not making physical mistakes, 543 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 3: it's because you're not making mental mistakes. So those two 544 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 3: go hand in hand, and that's that's huge credit to 545 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 3: Nolan in this coaching staff. 546 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: Here are some of the numbers for Walter Nolan. I 547 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: think this is impressive. Four tackles for loss in three games. 548 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: That is tied for the third most on the team 549 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: with Zavian Collins. Only Josh Wet and Kalais Campbell have 550 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 1: more Sweat with eleven Kalais with eight. Now the difference 551 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: is Zavin, Sweat and Klayis have all played ten games, 552 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: Walter's only played three. So it's what you do when 553 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: you're on the field, regardless of how many snaps you get, 554 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: how productive are you And Walter was very productive in 555 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: that season debut. Kind of quiet in his second game, 556 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: but against the forty nine ers, two tackles for loss 557 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: and a quarterback hit and what I would call a 558 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: hockey assist on the Josh Sweat sack. So it doesn't 559 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,479 Speaker 1: show up, but coaches notice that. So again it's what 560 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: are you doing to disrupt either the interior of the pocket, 561 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: collapse it, or maybe get to the outside and make 562 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: a play for yourself. 563 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,959 Speaker 3: Well, if you want to get technical in hockey, they 564 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 3: actually give two assists on the goal. 565 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: That's true. 566 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that's what you're going towards. I understood 567 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 3: what you were saying. 568 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: We need defensive players, they need that. It doesn't happen 569 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: without exactly it's a lot. I don't know how you 570 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: do abbreviate with. 571 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 3: A microphone in front of your face on game day. 572 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 3: Make it happen. 573 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,479 Speaker 1: You've got one too, You've got one. 574 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're doing all the post game stuff. 575 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: Make your own rules start. 576 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 3: Okay, we start your own statue. 577 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: We don't want that. By the way, speaking of Josh Sweat, 578 00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: you did something that not a lot of people have 579 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: able to do, and that is get Josh Wet to 580 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: stand still for a little while. By the way, I 581 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: think I think if people got to know the person, 582 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: they would really really love Josh Wet and interacting with 583 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: him because he is a fun person to talk to, 584 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: either in the locker room or just casually on the field. 585 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Joshwat. 586 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 3: I'm hoping this sideline exchange interview does that. It's so 587 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 3: I love whenever you have a player who is so 588 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 3: disruptive and violent in the game, and then you sit 589 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 3: down with them and they're so nice and maybe even 590 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 3: a little introverted, which is how Sweat comes across. 591 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 2: It was. 592 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 3: It was really one of the more fun and kind 593 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 3: of eccentric interviews that I have done this year. We 594 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 3: talked about a whole range of things. One of them 595 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 3: was all of his piercings and tattoos, and as someone 596 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 3: who has a couple of piercings in my ears, like, 597 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 3: I'm very intrigued by the face piercings and some of 598 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 3: the ones that he has. And before we actually started recording, 599 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 3: we were comparing some of the ones we have and 600 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 3: you know which ones hurt the most to heal and 601 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 3: how long they took to heal. But we also did 602 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 3: talk a little bit about Thanksgiving, and you know, I 603 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 3: feel about dreamy castrole, and I didn't bring that out. 604 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 3: I did ask him, though I will spoil this one 605 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 3: question is I asked him about his favorite Thanksgiving side 606 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 3: dish and he said, you know, the older I get, 607 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 3: the more I force myself to like stuffing because I 608 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 3: just feel like, as an adult, that's something you have 609 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 3: to like. So now I like stuffing but that's just 610 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 3: kind of I forced myself to do it as I'm matured. 611 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 3: I said, oh, do you make it? He goes, No, 612 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 3: I still eat like a college kid. I barely have 613 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,239 Speaker 3: a fridge and plates and cups like this guy's one 614 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 3: of the top five sack leaders in the end of 615 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 3: you know what, whatever is working for you is working, 616 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 3: you know. We also talked about the matchup and his play, 617 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 3: and he's on pace to start career highs and a 618 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 3: lot of different numbers. So it was it was a 619 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 3: really fun interview. I'm glad I had a chance to 620 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 3: sit down with him. So that'll be on all of 621 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 3: our social channels and asycarnals dot com uh Thursday, probably 622 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 3: later in the week, and then you can also find 623 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 3: if you tune into Cardinals Birdwatch Saturdays at six o'clock. 624 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: Already, Sweat has surpassed his sack total from last season 625 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: regular season. He had eight in the regular season. He's 626 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: got nine now. And again it's he's not playing a ton, 627 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: he's not playing as much as he was playing in Philadelphia. 628 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: But when he does play, when he is on the field, 629 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: more times than not, those are productive reps. Whether it 630 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: ends in a sack or not, because you have to 631 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: account for number ten wherever he is on the football field, 632 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: and I think it's it certainly helped this defensive front. 633 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: Now you'd like some more stops and fewer points scored, 634 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: but again that goes back to what we discussed earlier 635 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: in the week, was okay, stop allowing your opponent to 636 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: have short fields, whether that's a turnover or special teams. 637 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: But I do think Josh what is a's a home 638 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: run signing in the offseason that has again you pay 639 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: money for those guys on the edge to get after quarterbacks, 640 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: and that's exactly what we've seen from Josh Sweat bank Buck. 641 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 3: We had wondered bringing in a player of that caliber 642 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 3: without kind of money if he would not be rotated 643 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 3: out as often, and we were wrong. And that's what's 644 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 3: worked for this defense is to keep him in that 645 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 3: normal rotation with the rest of your pass rushers, the 646 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 3: rest of the defensive lineman. But it is working, and 647 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 3: you're right, it's not as many snaps as he was 648 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 3: playing in Philadelphia, but he is being more productive at 649 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 3: least when you're looking at the numbers, and. 650 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: Those snaps go down because Bijo Julari is now on 651 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: the football field. I will allow you Danny here to 652 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: talk about I think one of the more intriguing draft 653 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: picks that this team has made one because he's a prince. 654 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: He is legitimately it's not just a prince of a person, 655 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: which he is, but he is legitimately a prince. 656 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 3: No concern about him having to leave football to sit 657 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 3: on the throne. 658 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: I checked, what is he in line? Some ridiculous number. 659 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 3: Here's the good news is his brother, a Zz is older. 660 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 3: So if we get to a point where a Z's 661 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 3: is having to leave football to go sit on the 662 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 3: that that's when you can start alerting the sirens of Okay, keep. 663 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: An eye on bj his season debut twenty three defensive 664 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: snaps plus thirteen on special teams. I mentioned the special 665 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: teams because well it wasn't really even it was a 666 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: special team's play. 667 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 3: We got to make your own statue, correct, that's where 668 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 3: you start. 669 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: Okay, here we go. All right, Technically BJFI did not 670 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: show up on the statue. He didn't record a tackle. 671 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: We all saw what he did, though. He tracked down 672 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: brock Party on a two point attempt and got the sack. However, 673 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: the official game book just listed as two point try unsuccessful. 674 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 3: Doesn't countunt, the start doesn't. 675 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: Count as a sack. It doesn't count for Brock or 676 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: for bj It's just even if it was a successful 677 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: two point it. 678 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 3: Doesn't count as a touchdown if you catch one. It's 679 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 3: so interesting. 680 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: It's a team stat, not an individual stat. 681 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 3: So, yeah, what an incredible story for Ojelari who hadn't 682 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 3: played a football game in close to five hundred days. 683 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 3: His last game was the twenty twenty three season finale 684 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 3: when he was wearing number eighteen. 685 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: You mentioned that pregame and I was like, oh, that's right. 686 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: We've not seen him in number nine until Sunday. 687 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 3: Eighteen is now Marvin Harrison Junior. So it had been 688 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 3: a long time coming, and it had been a journey 689 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 3: which Ojelari described as hell. His knee injury he suffered 690 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 3: in training camp last August, he revealed he didn't just 691 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 3: tear his ACL, he tore multiple ligaments. His knee was 692 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 3: not responding as well as they liked. So we had 693 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 3: to go to LA and have it drained, and that's 694 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 3: another procedure, and it took a long time for him 695 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 3: to rehab and get to a point where he could 696 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 3: do that in a healthy manner. And that's not just 697 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 3: tough physically mentally, that is just brutal. And he relied 698 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 3: on his teammates and his coaches and his family, and 699 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 3: so everyone was just as excited for o Jeli when 700 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 3: he stepped onto the field in his game pads Sunday 701 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,280 Speaker 3: as he was. And to see him out there, no sleeve, 702 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 3: no brace. Now, the length and the bend were things 703 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 3: that he received a lot of praise for and that's 704 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 3: just going to continue to come into show back up 705 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 3: as he gets more comfortable, as his body gets used 706 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 3: to playing football again. But what a great story to 707 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 3: see him back out there. And I know it's not 708 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 3: going to show up in the statue, but the validation 709 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 3: of him making that play is huge for all parties involved. 710 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: He spoke with reporters on Monday, quote that's all I needed. 711 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: I just needed to know that I can do it. 712 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,919 Speaker 1: End quote, talking about the play that wasn't a sack. 713 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: But again, that might be the most meaningful or we 714 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: might be able to let's hope we can do this. 715 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: Go back either later this season or next season and 716 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: look back at that particular play where Yeah, you did 717 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: see the burst off the line of scrimmage. You saw 718 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: the athleticism to go after a mobile quarterback, maybe not 719 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: as mobile as some quarterbacks, but again, chase down a 720 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: quarterback who had rolled out on a two point try 721 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: and bring him down again. Does it go as a sack? 722 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: But got didn't allow points on the scoreboard. 723 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 3: You know who else would receive a lot of rays 724 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 3: for the length and bend. Maybe not so much link, 725 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 3: but the bend at least was Dennis Gardak, who will 726 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 3: be coming to town as a Jacksonville Jaguar. 727 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: It is Sardeki. Dennis Gardak comes back. Spencer Whipples on 728 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: the Jaguars staff. Derek LeBlanc is on the Jaguars staff. 729 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, a lot of familiar fac faces will be 730 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: back at State Farm Stadium on Sunday. 731 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 3: Are you covering this team? The last time the Jags 732 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 3: were here was two thousand and five. 733 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: Two thousand and five, I was, I just don't really remember. 734 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. That was the last time the Jags beat 735 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 3: the Cardinals? Wasn't two thousand and five is the number 736 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 3: I'm looking at, but I play often. 737 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: The last time they were in Arizona was twenty seventeen. 738 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 3: Twenty seventeen. 739 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: Okay, that was bs before, Sirrek. 740 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 3: Hey was Zach No Zach two thousand and five, Zach 741 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 3: Grsman was born. Yeah, he was born by then. 742 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: Twenty seventeen, No, two thousand. 743 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 3: And five, two thousand Yes, sorry, So twenty seventeen was 744 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 3: the last time the Jags played the Cardinals. This one 745 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 3: I'm reading here is the last time the Jags beat 746 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 3: the Cardinals was Week twelve, two thousand and five. You 747 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 3: know who the head coach was? 748 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 1: Four for the Cardinals in two thousand and five, can agree? 749 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 3: Okay, Dennis Green for the Jags it was Jack del Rio. 750 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Kurt Warner was the quarterback. 751 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: The way back machine a lot. By the way, speaking 752 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: of familiar faces, want to at least acknowledge this, Trent 753 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: shearferld shut, let me say that again. Trent Sherfield is 754 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: back in the building, signed to the practice squad with 755 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 1: the Cardinals in twenty eighteen and through twenty twenty. Called 756 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: it surreal to be back in this building and feels 757 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: like home. And then Matt Hawk signed after Pad O'Donnell 758 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: release of the Cardinals have a new punter. Matt Hawk 759 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: the former Arizona State punter and was with the Cardinals 760 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: during the twenty twenty three off season, most recently punted 761 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: for the Giants in twenty twenty four. So not only 762 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,240 Speaker 1: Trey Benson back on the field as a familiar face, 763 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: but Matt Hawk and Trent Sherfield here as well. 764 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 3: So Darren, that's his son devil in the locker room 765 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 3: after all. 766 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, there are a lot of sun Devils in the building, 767 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,879 Speaker 1: just not a lot in the locker room. 768 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 3: Well there you go. So I know fans were clamoring 769 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 3: in the off season, so you get your wish. 770 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: Yeah we really Cody over here smiling because he's got 771 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: a sun Devil forks up. Yeah, well m I Z 772 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 1: yeah z ou Syracuse. So we still have that. 773 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're good. 774 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: Okay, So pay attention Berg Gang. Coming up this week 775 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: Sideline Exchange with Josh Sweat. I'm really very looking forward 776 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 1: to that interview. And then for those that are fans 777 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: of the Big Red Rage this week, Bertram Barry, former 778 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: host for five years, is the guest of Big Red 779 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: Rage out at Flanker Kitchen and Sports Bar on the 780 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: Great Line near State Farm Stadium. That is Thursday, six pm. 781 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: If you can't be there in person, you can listen 782 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 1: on Arizona Sports ninety eighty seven FM, Paul calvc, Ron 783 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 1: wolf Lee and b Trained back on the airwaves as well. 784 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: What a trio Cardinals and Jaguars. You ready? 785 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 3: I'm ready? Are you ready? 786 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely? Always ready born ready. 787 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 3: I am excited too because it's going to be fun. Pregame. 788 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 3: This is the My Cause, My cleat game, so as 789 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 3: part of the Salute to Service efforts, which is the 790 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 3: NFL's ongoing commitment to honoring and supporting those who are 791 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,879 Speaker 3: currently serving or have served our country. And so you'll 792 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 3: see thirty seven players and six coaches wearing customized cleats 793 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 3: and shoes that are benefiting a cause close to them. 794 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 3: I know. I think it's Zach Gersherman who's writing the 795 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 3: article on Easycardinals dot com further explaining what a lot 796 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 3: of their causes are. So, if you're watching, either in 797 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 3: person or on TV, and you see warmups, you're thinking, 798 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 3: why is that player wearing like pink and blue and 799 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 3: purple shoes? 800 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,879 Speaker 1: Well, that's why it is always fun to see one 801 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: what they look like and then see them in action, 802 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: either in pregame warm ups and sometimes in the game 803 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: as well, but that is coming up. On Sunday. Cardinals 804 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: and Jaguars two oh five is the kickoff. Nine thirty 805 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 1: pregame coverage begins year on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network, 806 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: And on that note, we will put a lid on 807 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: this edition of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hyundai, probably 808 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to 809 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 1: our executive producer Jim Mamhandro, our associate producer Cody Fincher. 810 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 1: For Danny Sirek, I'm Craig Raylu. We'll talk to you 811 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: next time here on Cardinals Cover two.