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Speaker 1: now after all this build up, Brownie, you and I

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Speaker 1: that's it's true, and it makes some good sense. And

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Speaker 1: there's you know, these guys have got something about him,

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Speaker 1: you know, these these kids who you know, I had

431
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Speaker 1: a kid who played in Canada. Um, they do have

432
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Speaker 1: somebody to bounce ideas off of and how it's going

433
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Speaker 1: and doing talking about things and and it, and it

434
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Speaker 1: seems to be they seem to be more able to

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Speaker 1: adjust to that environment more so than the guy coming

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Speaker 1: in cold who's never seen it before. I ain't, yeah,

437
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Speaker 1: going in there. And I you know, when when I

438
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Speaker 1: was playing I on Saturdays, it was Kids' Day. My

439
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: kids were in the NFL locker room with other kids,

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Speaker 1: and it was you know, it was they were there,

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Speaker 1: they watched it, you know, they were comfortable there. So

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Speaker 1: I think that that does carry into your childhood and

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Speaker 1: into your into your adulthood, that that experience. So I'll

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Speaker 1: and I'll give credit to Joe who's going to be

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Speaker 1: on the show with us in the second hour because

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00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 1: he pointed this out in his write up, which we'll

447
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Speaker 1: be talking to him about in the second half of

448
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Speaker 1: the second hour of the show. But Asante Samuel Senior

449
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: played under Sean McDermott in Philadelphia, so there is some

450
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Speaker 1: measure of familiarity there, so yeah, you better And Leslie

451
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: Frazier was there on the staff as well, so you

452
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Speaker 1: better believe if they're doing their due diligence on a

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Speaker 1: guy like a Sante Samuel Junior, somebody lobbed a call

454
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Speaker 1: to Asante Samuel Senior, that's Mike absolutely, if he's not,

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Speaker 1: if he doesn't have a regular text conversation going on

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Speaker 1: with him, because some coaches do that, they keep in

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00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: touch with a lot of their former players. Not you know,

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00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: not all of them do, and not certainly not too

459
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Speaker 1: extent we're talking about, but that's always a possibility. But

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Speaker 1: I'm with I'm with Ryan from Niagara Falls. He called it,

461
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Speaker 1: I would be really happy if they grabbed a corner

462
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Speaker 1: at third and and it could be one of any

463
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Speaker 1: one of eight or nine or ten guys. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: I'd be really happy with it because those being the

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Speaker 1: corner drum too. Yeah, I think I'm banging that drum today,

466
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Speaker 1: but that's not who I think it'll be. But um,

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Speaker 1: do you think he goes earlier? Is that why? Okay?

468
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Speaker 1: I think that. I think that corners are gone earlier,

469
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Speaker 1: and I think there'll be a guy I'm picking, an

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Speaker 1: edge rusher. Yeah, that I think they'll take a guy

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Speaker 1: that'll be probably be ranked higher than the guy's left

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Speaker 1: on the board. Yeah. The value in terms of what's

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Speaker 1: expected to happen, looks like it might gravitate more to

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Speaker 1: edge rusher when the Bills are on the clock. But

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Speaker 1: that's what makes the draft so interesting. We'll have to

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Speaker 1: wait and see. Let's go back to the phones. We

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Speaker 1: go to Bernie in Grand Island. Bernie, what do you

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Speaker 1: have for us here? On one Bill's Live? Bernie. Gotta

479
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: turn Bernie, jump on the line here quick. Oh hey Bernie, Bernie,

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Speaker 1: say what you got? How you doing good? Yeah? You know,

481
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Speaker 1: I the skuytold my thunder I was gonna go with

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Speaker 1: a Sante Samuel. That's all right, you can still pick

483
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: him anyway. But you know what, I who I like

484
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: maybe helped me out with my son, said Michael Parsons.

485
00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: Swump be there, but he's a troublemaker. Uh No, I

486
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: mean there's there's some off the field stuff that I

487
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 1: think teams have to vet out. Um. I don't know

488
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: if it's enough to knock him down the board to

489
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Speaker 1: any great degree. He's widely expected to go in the

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Speaker 1: top ten to twelve picks. Uh, just because of the

491
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: athletic talent that he is. Um. So, yeah, he's not

492
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Speaker 1: going to be there at thirty. I think he can

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Speaker 1: almost guarantee that short of some unknown footage showing up

494
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Speaker 1: on social media that might plumbing him down the board.

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Speaker 1: I don't see that happening anybody else you had in mind, Bernie,

496
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: that's about it, I think, Uh, you know, I you know,

497
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Speaker 1: I'm kind of I'm kind of sometimes I like the

498
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Speaker 1: thought about from getting a wide uh my son through

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver into the mix. Uh you know, Uh,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of young talent and wide receivers. Maybe

501
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Speaker 1: a wide receiver down the road. Yeah, yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 1: I get it. Thanks for the call, Bernie. I don't

503
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Speaker 1: think you can rule out receiver. I think that's probably

504
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: more of a late day two day three option where

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00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: maybe you get some receiver. That's because the class is

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Speaker 1: very deep this year, and it's particularly deep at the

507
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: slot position. And we know that as great as Cole

508
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: Beasley has been for this offense the last two years,

509
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: he is thirty three years of age. His last year

510
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: of his contract is the twenty twenty two season. But

511
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Speaker 1: maybe you want to get somebody in the pipeline to

512
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Speaker 1: perhaps compete with Isaiah Hodgens for that future slot role

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Speaker 1: when Cole Beasley hangs up the spikes, and maybe you

514
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: can find a value late in the draft, the guy

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Speaker 1: that plays slot and maybe offers some returnability or something

516
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: like that. I would have some more confidence that at

517
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: the point when you're going to need a wide receiver,

518
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: there's going to be not only low hanging fruit in

519
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: the free agent market, but also it seems as though

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Speaker 1: every single draft class that comes out has got guys

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Speaker 1: who are proven pass catchers. So you can pick one

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00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: of those guys up out of a big basket of

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00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: good ones. So in my opinion, you got to get

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Speaker 1: guys who don't come along, or at positions who don't

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00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: come along and who are harder to find. To me,

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Speaker 1: that's an edge rusher, or particularly if you're picking and

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Speaker 1: you're talking about your number one draft pick. I get

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Speaker 1: it having your pick of the crop, but if it's

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Speaker 1: a bumper crop every year, don't I find a guy

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Speaker 1: that's more rare, either in this draft Pritt in particular,

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Speaker 1: or in a larger score. You know, you pick the

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Speaker 1: unicorn quarterback, or you pick you know, a unicorn tight

533
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Speaker 1: end like we've been talking about with Kyle Pitts. Wide

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Speaker 1: receiver to me has been a guy you could grab

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Speaker 1: and grab a really good one in any draft over

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Speaker 1: the last three or four years. And I think it's

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Speaker 1: probably gonna be exactly the same environment next year, even

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Speaker 1: more so. So I don't get caught up in doing

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Speaker 1: that right now, particularly with a roster at wide receiver

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Speaker 1: as deep as the Bills have. Certainly Emmanuel Anders is

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Speaker 1: only on a one year deal, but we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: a chance to vet Isaiah Hodgins to a great degree.

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00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: You got other guys in, you know, with Isaiah McKenzie,

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00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: Duke Williams, Jake Kumero, all these guys are different types

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00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: of receivers that the Bills are going to be able

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Speaker 1: to get a longer look at and develop a little

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Speaker 1: bit more, maybe get on the field form. So I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm getting if particularly a year where number thirty with

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Speaker 1: a deep roster, I think he gets somebody who's really

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00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: gonna go, who's got a chance to chip in this year.

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00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: That's my that's my take, which will be easier said

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00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: than done with the names that you no matter, Jake,

553
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: and think of it this way. Isaiah Hodgins essentially had

554
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,239
Speaker 1: a red shirt year last year. He's here. He's your

555
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: first year receiver now, so you know, maybe that's how

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Speaker 1: they look at it. We'll have to wait and see

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00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: Tom and Webster, Tim and Depew. Hang tight, we have

558
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: to take a break here, but when come back, more

559
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: of your phone calls at eight oh three, five fifty

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00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: who you got for the thirtieth pick in the draft

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Speaker 1: tonight for your Buffalo Bills. Let us know more of

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Speaker 1: your phone calls next here on One Bills Live, presented

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Speaker 1: by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back

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00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: to one Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you.

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00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: It is draft day, people, and we're asking you who

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Speaker 1: you got for pick thirty for the Bills in round

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Speaker 1: one tonight. And just from a timing perspective, that pick

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Speaker 1: is expected to be made somewhere between eleven thirty and

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Speaker 1: eleven forty five tonight. So if you have time to

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00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: get an app in, do it now so you don't

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00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,959
Speaker 1: miss it, because the last thing you want to do

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00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: is sleep through that thing. So, without any further ado,

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Speaker 1: we go back to the phones and leading us off

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Speaker 1: there waiting patiently, is Tom in webster? Tom, what do

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00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: you have for us? You're on one bills live. Oh hey,

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00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: Chris and Steve, Happy draft day. Amen, it's finally here.

577
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: That's right there you go. Hey, I just briefly, I

578
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: don't have names, but I just wonder if, without detailed analysis,

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Speaker 1: who or what is our greatest need based on at

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Speaker 1: number thirty in your opinion, based on the victory over

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00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: the Ravens and then the loss to Casey, is it?

582
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: Do we need number one defensive end that can start.

583
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: I'm at a loss. I don't have any names, but

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Speaker 1: I guess I'll hang up and let you guys run

585
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: that by me. Yeah, that's fine, and thanks for the call. Tom.

586
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: I'll say this, I think people are getting wrapped up

587
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: in matching up better against the Chiefs, and I totally

588
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: get that. And you can certainly make an argument that

589
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: if you're going to keep up with the Chief Chiefs.

590
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: You literally have to put more speed on the field,

591
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: especially on the back end of your defense, and there

592
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 1: is a cornerback need. As we've mentioned, they're a little

593
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: short on safety depth at least right now. Linebacker depth,

594
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 1: you can make an argument for that. Behind Milano and Edmonds,

595
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 1: they signed a couple of you know, lower rung players,

596
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: and they have Tyrrel Dotson in the pipeline. But you

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00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: bring in a fifth round draft choice, that guy's going

598
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: to compete for a backup roll right away. And then

599
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: you have the pass rusher position. So pass rushers at

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Speaker 1: thirty that figure to still be on the board or

601
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: could potentially still be on the board. You're talking about

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00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: guys like Washington's Joe try On, possibly Penn States Jason Oway.

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00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: I'm not convinced he'll be there just because he's got

604
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: off the charts measurables, and if a team has a

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Speaker 1: coaching staff that believes they can mold and shape him

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00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: into a refined pass rusher, all of the physical tools

607
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 1: are there for the kid to skyrocket. There is a risk,

608
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: but some people, more often than not, teams bank on

609
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: elite physical traits and count on their coaching to turn

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00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: the player into something special, so that could keep that

611
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: could take a way off the board before the bills

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00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: around the clock, other possibilities. Greg Russe so tall, long

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00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: pass rusher who did not have a great pro day,

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00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 1: which particularly effective from inside as a pass rusher as well. Yeah,

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00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: his less than impressive numbers at his pro day have

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00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: some concerned that he doesn't bring the same athleticism to

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Speaker 1: the table that maybe others do. So maybe he slides

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Would he be a consideration? Hard to say.

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Speaker 1: If you want to compete against the Chiefs from a

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00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: pass rushing perspective, you got to have long chase players

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Speaker 1: if you're play playing Patrick Mahomes. Is Greg Russo a

622
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: long chase player? I don't know that he is, and

623
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Speaker 1: maybe his pro day has some people concerned that he's not,

624
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: but that it's different strokes for different folks. As we know,

625
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: you have to you're projecting a top end on these

626
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: guys because none of them is the current player they are,

627
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: or very few of them are gonna come in and

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00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: say you're gonna be starting playing one hundred percent of

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Speaker 1: the defensive snaps, And particularly in Buffalo where McDermott and

630
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 1: Leslie Frasier rotate eight guys through on their defensive front constantly,

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Speaker 1: no matter how they're playing. Now. They may do it situationally,

632
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: make sure I'm passing down to this group's in, or

633
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: another passing down down to distance this group's end. They

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00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 1: may do that, but they are moving those guys around

635
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: a lot, and so any guy they pick up front

636
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: is going to only get a number of snaps that

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00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: he earns. And that's a hard thing to do as

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00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: a young player coming out. And I the reason I

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00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: and you know this Greg Russo guy we're talking about

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00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: and watching here on MSG. I like him on the

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Speaker 1: inside because he's so long. He gets in, he gets

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Speaker 1: into quarterback's vision and he can reach around an offensive

643
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Speaker 1: lineman and get a piece of the quarterback when he's

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Speaker 1: actually being blocked. He's got real good length and there's

645
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: no space in a pocket like that for a guy

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Speaker 1: like you know, who's as tall and long as Rousseau

647
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Speaker 1: is assault size over eleven inches. Yeah, I mean the guys.

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00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: The guy really has a long reach and coming from

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00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: the inside like he's able to do. He also plays

650
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Speaker 1: the out. He's listened as an edge rusher rusher, but

651
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: a lot of times at Miami they put him right

652
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: down on the center. Um, I like his versatility, but

653
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: anybody like that, even the o Way guy from Penn State,

654
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: He's going to grow into his role with the Buffalo Bills.

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00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: Even Ed Oliver did aj Epenesa? Do you remember aj

656
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 1: And I've said it a couple of times. Aj Epenesa

657
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: was inactive for a couple of weeks at the beginning

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Speaker 1: of his rookie season, and then by the end of

659
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: the year he was in the regular rotation in place

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00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: of Trent Murphy. All of that stuff goes into the mix.

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00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,280
Speaker 1: But the contribution they're going to be expected to make early,

662
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: any any contribution they do make early is going to

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00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 1: be gravy because they've had some guys who came in,

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Speaker 1: as you know, pretty high round draft picks who had

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Speaker 1: to work their way under the field as well. So, um,

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Speaker 1: if you're going edge rusher, you know, temper your expectations

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00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: for the guy, right, but you're talking about a thirtieth

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Speaker 1: overall pick as well. Let's go back to the phones

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Speaker 1: and we go to Tim in Depew. Tim, what do

670
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Speaker 1: you have for us? You're on one Bills live. Hey, listen,

671
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: I like what Chicago tried to do as far as packaging,

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00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: Cleo Mac you know, you know, you cut a lot

673
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: of cap space open for you. I think that's a

674
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,919
Speaker 1: great way for the Bills to approach this draft as well.

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Speaker 1: I think you, uh, you cut bait with Edmonds. You

676
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: get throwing your first round pick and if you even

677
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: if you need to your third round pick to move

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00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: up to stay round fifteen or so sixteen, and you

679
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: go for the linebacker from milber Dame who's a big

680
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: I'm hitter, the kid that comes to play every game.

681
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: And you know, that's what this defense needs, is sumbody

682
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: in the middle. That's a big hitter, and unfortunately we

683
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: don't have that with Edmunds. Well, Tim, here's here's the

684
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: only problem with that plan. The problem is Jeremiah Usu

685
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: Coromoa is two hundred and fifteen pounds. You can't play

686
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Speaker 1: middle linebacker even in today's game at that weight. You

687
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: need somebody a little bit bigger. Is he a monster hitter? Yes?

688
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: Is he an intense player? Yes? Would I take him

689
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: in the first fifteen to twenty picks? Yes? Again, I

690
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: love this guy. He might be my favorite player in

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00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: the entire draft. But what that guy is is a

692
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: weak side linebacker. In a scheme like Buffalo's, he would

693
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Speaker 1: have to play Milano's position. He might even have to

694
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: play a hybrid big nickel position because he's only two

695
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Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen pounds. He plays bigger. It seems to

696
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: hit bigger than that. But in the NFL, I could

697
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Speaker 1: see guys running straight at him if they see him

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Speaker 1: out there at the middle linebacker spot. So I don't

699
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Speaker 1: think that's his position. And to take it a step further,

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Speaker 1: and I know you're not alone in this criticism of

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00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds. You're saying, Oh, he doesn't hit enough, he

702
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: doesn't lay people out. That's not what this defensive scheme

703
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: is about. It's about covering people out of the backfield,

704
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: being going sideline to sideline with your range. The days

705
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: of middle linebackers knocking people's teeth out like Jack Lambert

706
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: and Mike Singletary did are over in this league. Yeah,

707
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: it's over. I get. I mean, everybody says the exact

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00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: same thing as Tim just did, and I don't want

709
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: to you know you and I hear it a lot,

710
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: and so maybe some of our listeners has have missed it.

711
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: But you know, Tremaine Edmonds gets a lot of criticism

712
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: or a lot of questioning about his contribution to the

713
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: defense because they don't see him, you know, knocking guys backward.

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00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: They see a lot of arm tackling, They see a

715
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Speaker 1: lot of draft downs. And let me just say this,

716
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: that's what you see all over the league. As you know,

717
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: you laugh at me. I go back and watch games

718
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: over and over again. There was one or two tackles

719
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: the entire season against the Bill's offense where he went wow.

720
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: And that against guys like Devin Singletary and Zach Moss

721
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: where the guy runs it up in there and they

722
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: get labeled. It happened like twice for the entire season.

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Speaker 1: It just doesn't happen anymore. Guys don't tackle like that anymore.

724
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Speaker 1: They're not. First of all, they're not allowed to lead

725
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: with their head like they did. And second of all,

726
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: the league is it's a throwing league. And so I

727
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: know that I think they're taking out the way the

728
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: game has changed. They're taking that that frustration out over

729
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: the way the game's changed out on Tremaine Edmonds for

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00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: playing the way he's being asked to be played. He's

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00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 1: been voted the Pro Bowl, but the players and coaches

732
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: he plays against, they voted the guys like that's the

733
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: guy we want out there on our team. That Kerry

734
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: should carry a lot of weight with Bills fans as well.

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00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: That's not It's not entirely a population popularity contest like

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00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: so many people say it is. To a certain extent,

737
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: it is, but not when you play in Buffalo or

738
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: New Orleans or Green Bay. So you get there because

739
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: of the coaches and players vote. And that's what Tremaine

740
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: Edmonds has done. The guy plays the way the NFL

741
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: is played now, and Sean McDermott and Leslie Frasier, I

742
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: don't think they could be happier with the way that

743
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: he's played. We have to take a break. When we

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Speaker 1: come back, Jeff in Lockport, Bill and Rochester, we will

745
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: get to you. So hang right where you are at

746
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: eight oh three, oh five fifty. Who you got at

747
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: pick thirty for the Bills tonight? Give us your favorites

748
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: or tell us the position you believe the Bills absolutely

749
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: have to land in round one tonight. Back in a

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Speaker 1: moment here on one, Bills live presented by a lot

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Speaker 1: of health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and before

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00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: we get back to the phones, we do want to

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Speaker 1: remind you Bill's Mafia head down to Rachel's Mediterranean Grill

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Speaker 1: this month to participate in Rachel's round Up. When you

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00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: up amount will be donated to the John r. O'shi

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Speaker 1: so be sure to just round up your bill when

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00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: you go into Rachel's and get your lunch or dinner.

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Speaker 1: Let's get back to the phones and we go to

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Speaker 1: Jeff in Lockport. Jeff, what do you have for us

764
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Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Hey, guys, how you doing. We're

765
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: doing great, good, good good. The things I have bad rusher,

766
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Speaker 1: Oh boy, hold on, hold on here, Jeff. You're in

767
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: a bad cell location right now. He stepped into a bucket. Jeff, Yeah,

768
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: we lost you. It sounds like you're in a tunnel underwater.

769
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: So hang on, Jeff. We'll get back here in a second.

770
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: When you get to a better cell location. In the meantime,

771
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: we'll go to Bill and Rochester. Bill, what do you

772
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: have for us? You're on one Bill's five. Okay, I'd

773
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Speaker 1: like to say hello to Steve Tasker. I'm a fellow

774
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Speaker 1: employee of West Oh. There you go go ahead, Bill. Okay.

775
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: I was gonna pick Kansas City in the Super Bowl,

776
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: and then I got to thinking about that linebacking crew

777
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 1: for Tampa Bay. It was brilliant in that game. My

778
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: opinion is, if you couldn't even have to move up

779
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: to get that linebacker from penns Date or maybe another

780
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: linebacker that can do it all, I would think you

781
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: put in those three linebackers on that defense. Thus you

782
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: got Klein as a backup. I think you'd have a

783
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 1: heck of a defense. I know about the pass rushers,

784
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: and I know about that extra corner. Wouldn't it be

785
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: nice to have a linebacking crew like Tampa Bay which

786
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: shut Mahomes down pretty good. I mean pass rush was

787
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: good too, right, And and what do you think? Yeah,

788
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: thanks for the call, Bill, appreciate that. I think we

789
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: have to look at the defense and for a great

790
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: majority of the time Tampa only had two linebackers on

791
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: the field, Lavante David and Devin White. So those guys

792
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: are unbelievable. Yeah, the front six one it for Tampa.

793
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: Devin White was a top five draft pick, which kind

794
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: of caters to your stance that you should go up

795
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: and get a player like that. But Tremaine Emmonds was

796
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 1: the sixteenth pick in the draft. I don't think he's

797
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: quite as fast as Devin White, who runs in the

798
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: four fours. But Tremaine Edmonds ran a four or five three.

799
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: I want to say at the combine he's not slow. Um,

800
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: And I think Matt mullane ran in the four sixes.

801
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: I want to say at the combine plays a lot

802
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: faster than he than he Thanke, that's for sure. I'm yeah,

803
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: I'm not, don't. It's a it's a big ask for

804
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: the Buffalo bill For if you're a fan out there

805
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: thinking that the Buffalo Bills are gonna kick Tremaine Edmonds

806
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,919
Speaker 1: to the curb and draft a guy to replace him. Um,

807
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you're good enough to beat

808
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: Kansas City. Yeah, you're wrong. They were good enough to

809
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: beat Kansas City this year and didn't play well on

810
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: the day of the game. Um, Kansas City played their

811
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: best game of the year against the Buffalo Bills. They

812
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: played their absolute best game of the season against the

813
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. And and the Bills because of something, you know,

814
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: like a drop pass here and maybe a bit missdecision

815
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Speaker 1: by Sean which he has already owned. He said, Listen,

816
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: if I had to do it again, I probably would

817
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: have gone for it on fourth and two on their

818
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: goal line. You got to go for it in those places.

819
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: And there's a chance that the Bills, with a drop

820
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: pass by Devin's singletary go in and score, and they

821
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: go up by two scores. A lot of things in

822
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: that game did not go the Bill's way, but both

823
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: by their own doing and by the Chiefs doing, you're

824
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: good enough to beat that team. Now, you don't have

825
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: to reinvent anything. You don't have to throw away a

826
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: good player in hopes of getting a better one. You

827
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: can just draft one to help. That's all you gotta do.

828
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 1: I mean, there are four or five teams at the

829
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: end of this past season who were good enough to

830
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: go and win the whole thing, but they didn't play

831
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: well enough on the day they got eliminated. And that's it.

832
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: So this I get the obsession with the Kansas City Chiefs,

833
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: but don't sell this team short because they've got a

834
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 1: linebacker that doesn't look like one from your childhood. And

835
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Speaker 1: Brandon Bean has this opinion about the Super Bowl, and

836
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: I share this opinion. It was the pass rush of

837
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Bucks that had the greatest impact on

838
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: neutralizing the Kansas City Chiefs, due in part to the

839
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: fact that they had two backup tackles playing with Eric

840
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: Fisher injured as well as their right tackle whose names

841
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: escaping me right now. They had backups out there against

842
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: Jason Pierre Paul and Shack Barrett who just got franchised

843
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: and resigned. So if you have a pass rusher could

844
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 1: make a difference. So yeah, along with adamican Soon inside

845
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 1: and Vita Vea who just got his fifth year option

846
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: picked up. So the defensive line had a little bit

847
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: to do with that as well, and may have had

848
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: more impact because Patrick Mahomes in that game ran for

849
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: over four hundred yards according to his GPS, side to side,

850
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 1: backwards wherever he could to get rid of the football.

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Speaker 1: We have to take a break when we return Jobascalla

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Speaker 1: from the athletic with some bills draft Day Notes will

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Speaker 1: get with him next here on one Bill's Live presented

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Speaker 1: taster who has been all over the fields kind of unique.

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Speaker 1: He was kind of a dual role player for you,

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Speaker 1: state Steve a blimp, we're not even in the stratosphere

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Speaker 1: of normalcy. Well, welcome to our number two of one

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Speaker 1: Bills Live here on Draft Day twenty twenty one and

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Speaker 1: joining us now to strip it down to its core

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Speaker 1: for what maybe the fifteenth is uh Bill's reporter for

862
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Speaker 1: the Athletic Joe Biscallio, who's got a column up that

863
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: he just released this morning called Bill's NFL Draft Day Notebook,

864
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: Edge Rusher the Logical Leader thirty. But what about Asante

865
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: Samuel Jr. And Joe. It's interesting because that has been

866
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: a popular name this morning amongst our callers. And I

867
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: think the one area that hasn't been discussed enough with

868
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: Asante Samuel is position flexibility, because he has experienced both

869
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: on the outside and in the Nickel and Steve and

870
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 1: I have mentioned on this show everybody's talking about cornerback too,

871
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: but I don't think enough people are talking about the

872
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: fact that Tarn Johnson is in the last year of

873
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: his rookie contract. Yeah, I am totally with you, and

874
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: that's the reason why I viewed Nickel Corner as one

875
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: of both their biggest short term and long term needs.

876
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: I mean, you laid it out perfectly. Tarn Johnson is

877
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 1: in the final year of his rookie deal, and if

878
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: the Bills fire up the fifth year option for both Josh,

879
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: both Josh Allen and Tremade Edmonds, that's putting them at

880
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: around one hundred ninety millia next year, or they do

881
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 1: anything else, and we don't know how much the cap

882
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: is going to go up. So from that perspective, they're

883
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: not going to be able to resign a bunch of

884
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: guys unless they they cut a lot of players. So

885
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: I think adding a guy like Assante Samuel gives them

886
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 1: a lot of flexibility. And you know, you look what

887
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: he's able to do. The he can slide inside to

888
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: Nickel corner, and that fills a need right there, because

889
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: that was also a spot last year. Despite Terren Johnson

890
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: making the humongous play, and you don't want to take

891
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: that away from him, whatsoever, he did struggle in coverage

892
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: last year. And got benched at one point early in

893
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: the season. Turned it around. Really good run defender, don't

894
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: get me wrong, but they can stand up there. Even

895
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: in the AFC Championship game, Tyreek Hill, when the Bills

896
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: flipped amand coverage, Tyrek Hill burned him for for a

897
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: pretty long touchdown on just a pretty quick route. So

898
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: that's an area that they want to get better at.

899
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: I would think Assante Samuel, I think what's interesting about

900
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: him specifically is the Bill's based defensive I think you

901
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: guys know this as well as I do. They're they're

902
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: in nickel. I mean, they're not three linebackers. That's not

903
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: the NFL anymore. So when you have three corner field

904
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: he's sixty five percent of the time, if not seventy

905
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: seventy five, eighty percent of the time, that's a pretty

906
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: substantial spot in your in your squad. And so Asante

907
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: Samuel can play those roles, deal with the quicker twitch players,

908
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: and then when teams go to three h when they

909
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: forced the Bills into three linebackers that's the base defense,

910
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: then you can slide him outside and he can and

911
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: he has the type of skills to where you know

912
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: he's got the instincts, he's got the ball hawking skills,

913
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: He's a good tackler, good coverage in stinks. I think

914
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: he can bridge that gap. So that way your third

915
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: cornerback is essentially Levi Wallace or Datan Jackson. Yeah, And

916
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: with Levi Wallace signing a one year deal to come back,

917
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: Terrence Johnston the last year of his deal, you're looking

918
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: at a secondary that has been really good being completely

919
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: different in a year and after this season. Um certainly

920
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: a lot of free agents signed back here, and I

921
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: get it Levi wall but you know they've been trying

922
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: to replace Levi Wallace. They haven't been able to get

923
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: it done, particularly with guys who check cough a lot

924
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,240
Speaker 1: of boxes. They haven't had a guy drafted this high

925
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: to try and do that. Kevin Johnson you can make

926
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: your case for, but you know he comes over and

927
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 1: while he had some of the physical traits of he

928
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: didn't have the skill on the field. And you know,

929
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: Josh Norman passed his prime, could not recapture what it was.

930
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: He couldn't get Levi Wallace off the field for any

931
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: length of time. But he's going to be gone after

932
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: this year. He signed a one year deal, the Bills

933
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: bring him back. Tarn Johnson's gonna be gone. So even

934
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: with those two guys gone and Asante Samuel in the fold,

935
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: long term, you're still down a guy that you're gonna

936
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: need to replace. So Sante Samuel's or some cornerback of

937
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: his ILK seems almost like a must when he put

938
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: it in those terms. Yeah, and I think Dane Jackson,

939
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: we still have to figure out what he is. I mean,

940
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: I know Brandon being said that he could figure into

941
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: the starting pompetence this year. It's such a small sample

942
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 1: size from what we saw of him. Like I remember

943
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: he had flash plays. It was against Arizona against Tennessee

944
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: where people are like, whoa this kid can plays seventh rounder,

945
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: didn't really think he got cut, went on the practice squad,

946
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: all these different things. But then you know later on

947
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: in the season he did have some struggles in his

948
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: last appearance, and even in that Arizona game too, he

949
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: had he had a few struggles. So and I don't

950
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: know if those were really as populated as his successes

951
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: throughout those games because on the broadcast you see those,

952
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: you see the breakups everything like that, and that's how

953
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 1: kind of opinions get formed. But with Dan Jackson still

954
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: have to figure it out. And by Wallace fine baseline

955
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: starting player for this year if they really need him

956
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: to be, I mean, they would probably want him to

957
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: take a step forward or take Dane or have Dan

958
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: Jackson to take it step forward. But at its core,

959
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, Leie. By Wallace could be gone next year.

960
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: Arn Johnson could be gone next year, and then what

961
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: do you have. I mean, Sir ran Neil could be

962
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: gone next year. He's another one who's due at the

963
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: rookie contract after the season. So you have Tredebas White,

964
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: Dan Jackson and phill in the blank. Yeah, the same

965
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: could be said to a great degree at Edge Rusher.

966
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: I know I don't need to tell you this, Joe,

967
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: but Jerry Hughes Mario Addison both in the last year,

968
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: they're deals long in the tooth players as well. I

969
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: know Steve is a big fan of Greg Rousseau. I'm

970
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: a little partial to Joe. Try on. I know you

971
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: broke this down in your column, so why don't you

972
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: do it here? Just names to look out for at thirty. Yeah,

973
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: I went back and looked look at the Carolina guys

974
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: that they brought in because I think they have kind

975
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: of reformatted what they're looking for in defense ends. So

976
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: since Bean and McDermott have arrived to Buffalo, I looked

977
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: at the five players that they've legitimately signed or drafted,

978
00:55:55,120 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: that being Darryl Johnson, Trent Murphy, Fao bod Aj Mario

979
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: Addison is the fifth one, and just just to take

980
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 1: their average height, weight, arm length, everything like that, and

981
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 1: what you get is essentially a player that is six

982
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 1: foot five, two hundred and fifty seven pounds within arm

983
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: length of a little over thir and a quarter inches.

984
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: So when you look at that type of profile, you're

985
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: looking for stific meshes just on the first round targets

986
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 1: and guys that stand out right. The one guy that

987
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 1: you brought up Joe Tryon from Washington, he is basically

988
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 1: a carbon copy of their prototype. Same thing with Jason

989
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: Oway from from Penn State. A Zizo Gulari is shorter,

990
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 1: but he's got super long arms, and our draft expert

991
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: at the Athletic Dane Brugler, said he's got an arm

992
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: length of a guy who is three inches taller than him,

993
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: so that probably bridges that gap. Jalen Phillips is another

994
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: one who might be a little bit shorter arms but

995
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: has everything else they want, so those are probably the

996
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,760
Speaker 1: best fits. Rousseau is another one that from a size perspective,

997
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: check off the box. But where I'm a little bit

998
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: hesitant on Rousseau specifically for the Bills is one of

999
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 1: the things that Brandon being really talked about was having

1000
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: the explosiveness and looking for that in their past rushers

1001
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 1: and having the agility, fluidity, the ability to change directions,

1002
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: the ability to drop back into coverage. And Rousseau he

1003
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: uh a mock draftabull dot com. His agility scores, his

1004
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: explosive scores did not check out well like he was

1005
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: in the fifteenth, the thirtieth percentile and three of the

1006
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: four and the fifty second percentile in the other So

1007
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: there's just a little bit of a gap there. And

1008
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: when you watch him there you can kind of see

1009
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: it too. He almost kind of looks like an undersized

1010
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: five technique. At least that's the field I got when

1011
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: I was watching him. That's not to say he can't,

1012
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: like maybe shed some weight and gain some more explosiveness.

1013
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: We saw that with AJP and SA last year when

1014
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: they asked him to drop some weight. But all that said,

1015
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: I think if you're looking for explosive miss fluidity and

1016
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: all these different things, the three guys that really stand

1017
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: out to me of this edge rusher class are of

1018
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: the first round group or Joe try On, Jason Oway

1019
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: and as he's Ocholari and if is not going to

1020
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: be there, that brings it down to try and Oa

1021
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: And my personal favorite of the two is trying which

1022
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: one of those guys is the most versat what they do.

1023
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: One of the reasons I like Rousseau is the fact

1024
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: that he plays down inside some particularly on pass rush.

1025
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: He's got an he's so long, and I get it

1026
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: what you're saying about it, and if you watch him,

1027
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: the one way to put it so people can envision

1028
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: it is he kind of rushes a little bit like

1029
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: a basketball player. You know, he's not a totally physical guy,

1030
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: and he you know, he runs through some of the

1031
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: some of the traffic like a guy trying to weave

1032
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: through screens. He's not really trying to take guys on

1033
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: or push him off. He tries to get slippery. Um.

1034
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: He's really good. I think him the inside when the

1035
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: pocket collapses. He's long enough to reach around guys to

1036
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: get to the quarterback and force the issue when he's

1037
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: not really actually going to get a sack or drag

1038
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: the guy down. But and his but his his versatility

1039
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: in the fact that he can play down inside a

1040
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: lot like we thought Epaneza would be asked to do

1041
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: last year coming out of Iowa two hundred and eighty.

1042
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 1: We thought he'd move down quite a bit, and then

1043
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: of course they thought he needed more explosion. They dropped

1044
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: the way and he never moved down inside. Are very

1045
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: rarely did, so That's one of the reasons I liked Rousseau.

1046
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: What are the guys that you like? Are any of

1047
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:27,919
Speaker 1: them versatile enough to do like moved down inside, moved

1048
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,479
Speaker 1: to different spots on the offensive line or defensive line,

1049
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: and also drop into coverage. Who's which of your guys

1050
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: are versatile enough to do that? Yeah, the guys that

1051
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: I laid out are probably just add rusher guys, but

1052
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: they also are better at dropping back in the which

1053
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: is a statement. As you guys know of what the

1054
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: Bills do at defensive end when they like the blitz

1055
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: linebackers or cornerbacks or safety like to you know, compensate

1056
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: for that by by dropping either a defensive end or

1057
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: a defensive tackle back into coverage. So that that's why

1058
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: I like the try On and Oway fits. If there's

1059
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: one guy that fills the explosiveness scores and gives you

1060
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: versatility where you can maybe slide him down the line.

1061
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: I'm not even looking at that he might end up

1062
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: going in the first round because I think he's really talented.

1063
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: But he's kind of this on the radar, number sixty

1064
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: one second round guy for me, Peyton Turner out of Houston.

1065
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: I mean six foot five, two hundred and seventy pounds,

1066
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: thirty five inch long arms. I mean, you watch him.

1067
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: He moves around and is fluid and looks like a

1068
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty pound player. He can drop back

1069
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: into coverage. They line him up on the left side

1070
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: of the line, they line him up on the right

1071
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: side of the line, they line him up at defensive tackle.

1072
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: So he's got all of these different flexibilities and it

1073
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: still has the explosiveness side matchet. So he's someone I'm

1074
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess that he gets drafted well before sixty one.

1075
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: But if he's at sixty one and the Bills have

1076
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 1: to taken a pass rusher. I think he would be

1077
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: an extraordinarily good fit. Yeah, he was an interesting player

1078
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: because he had to begin his college career, I believe,

1079
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: at defensive tackle just to due to lack of numbers

1080
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,479
Speaker 1: on the Houston defensive line, and then finally got to

1081
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: finally play on the edge, I think just this past

1082
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: year predominantly, and then he got on the radar there.

1083
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: He got hurt this year, but before he got hurt

1084
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: this season, he was crushing people and he was really

1085
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 1: playing well. And then he got injured and uh and yeah,

1086
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 1: I kind of did it for Yeah, I think you're

1087
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 1: talking about a guy with thirty five plus inch arms.

1088
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: I mean, plays with heavy hands. That's what stands out

1089
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: about him. Joe Um. I know you also covered in

1090
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: your column the needs for the teams ahead of the Bills,

1091
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 1: directly ahead of them in the lower to upper twenties,

1092
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: and Steve and I have sliced this a number of

1093
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: ways too. I'm concerned that there will be a run

1094
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: on corners in this range because that's the vast, the

1095
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: vast majority of those teams have corners as probably one

1096
01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: of their top two needs. Edge rusher is also a

1097
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 1: common need for a lot of those clubs too. But

1098
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: corner is almost I mean, it's clear as day all

1099
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: the way down from twenty two right up until the

1100
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 1: Packers at twenty nine right in front of Buffalo. What

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01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: do you envision there? Do you see a cornerback run

1102
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: or do you think it could go a little topsy turvy? Yeah,

1103
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,919
Speaker 1: I'm kind of expecting. Well, I think there's a chance

1104
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: that the top two corners could go in the top ten,

1105
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 1: which completely could recaliber thing. And then I think there's

1106
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: a chance Greg Newsom goes in the top twenty ahead

1107
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 1: of Caleb Farley. And we don't know what to do

1108
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: with Caleb Farley because of the back concerns and whether

1109
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: or not that's going to impact his draft status. And

1110
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: how comfortable these teams are, especially in this year where

1111
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 1: the medicals are just such an up in the air situation.

1112
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: But when you have all of those teams in front

1113
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: of them, like you like you said, and shout out

1114
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: to all my colleagues at the at the Athletic because

1115
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: you know, I randomly slack message to them. I'm like, hey,

1116
01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: give me give me your top five beads for the

1117
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 1: for the team, and every single one of them got

1118
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 1: back to me soon super quick, so thank you that.

1119
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 1: But when you look at right down the line, cornerback

1120
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 1: is the one that stands out. But I think edge

1121
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: rusher to me is maybe the more concerning aspect if

1122
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: that's what the Bills want to come away with here

1123
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: in the first round, because the drop off and edge

1124
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 1: rusher is an extreme one. Once you get past that

1125
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 1: Peyton Turner tier it past the second round, like then

1126
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: you're getting into guys like Genarius Robinson Smith from UAB,

1127
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: Jordan Smith from UAB, that hamilcar Rusher ed from Oregons

1128
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: like these are these are not names that are really

1129
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 1: going to move the meter all that much. So if

1130
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: you want a pass rusher or a cornerback for that matter,

1131
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 1: I think the team that the Bills are gonna need

1132
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,439
Speaker 1: to cozy up are the Pittsburgh Steelers. That that's the

1133
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: most obvious trade up part to where it's both a

1134
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: realistic and b It probably wouldn't lost them too much.

1135
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 1: I would expect to move up to twenty four. It

1136
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: probably cost them their third round pick, but then they

1137
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 1: could get a fourth round pick back. Maybe they have

1138
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: to throw in a seventh round pick or a sixth

1139
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: round pick or something like that. But if they're assuring

1140
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 1: themselves of the edge rusher that they want, then that

1141
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: could be a potential spot, because then you've got Jacksonville,

1142
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: who is a complete wild card. They need everything across

1143
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: the board outside of quarterback. And then past that you've

1144
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 1: got Cleveland at Baltimore twenty seven. Two direct competitors to

1145
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 1: the AFC crown this year for the Bills, the Saints

1146
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 1: at twenty eight, who may or may not be picking

1147
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 1: there based on some of the rumors from j Glazer

1148
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: today about trying to get in the top ten and

1149
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 1: the Packers they're not as big of a concern with

1150
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: edge rusher, but yeah, there's edge rusher is going to

1151
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: be one of those things. And then when you look

1152
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 1: past past the Bills, if you're talking about trading down,

1153
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 1: the Ravens are there at thirty one, they need one,

1154
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers at thirty two, and then all six teams

1155
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 1: at the top of round too could use an edge

1156
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 1: rusher too. So if you want an edge rusher thirty

1157
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: or trading on your spot. Yeah, and Steve and I

1158
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: mentioned also the prospect of if you do in fact

1159
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: trade back. There's a very real possibility you're allowing the

1160
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: Jets and the Dolphins to pick three times before you

1161
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 1: make a single draft selection this year, which is kind

1162
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 1: of a very daunting thing in my mind. Anyway, it's

1163
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,439
Speaker 1: hard to be really cares, but it's hard to feel

1164
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: like you're gonna get better or that they're not closing

1165
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: the gap one and when they pick three players in

1166
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: the top sixty five or ninety picks fifty zero, that's hard.

1167
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: That's a hard thing to live with. You got anything

1168
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: else for Joe or Joe? Thanks so much. I love

1169
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 1: your stuff. Joe appreciate you. Yeah, thanks for the time. Joe,

1170
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: enjoy the draft. We'll be keeping our ear to the

1171
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: ground on some of your coverage, so thanks very much

1172
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 1: for the time. Sounds great, guys. All right, that's Joe

1173
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: is Draft from the Athletic Bills be reporter and you

1174
01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 1: want to talk about thorough He spends an ungodly amount

1175
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 1: of hours putting some of these columns together. I don't

1176
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 1: know if there's any angle left based on what I

1177
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 1: would say, it's probably like this. Steve. Every angle that

1178
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: he's covered in the Draft day notes column that he

1179
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: listed here probably covers what we've done in the last

1180
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: twenty days, right, you know what I'm saying stuff. Yeah,

1181
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm totally with him on this. Peyton Turner guy as well.

1182
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 1: Good player. He's a good player. And I'll tell you

1183
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: this too. He's big. And I know I got this

1184
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 1: my own hang ups because I've lived in that world

1185
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 1: for so long as a as a small guy trying

1186
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: to make my way. Big bodies help you in a

1187
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: lot of ways. Certainly they have to be athletic and

1188
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 1: good players, but man o, man, they're hard to push around. Yeah. Never,

1189
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 1: you can never see yourself getting dominated at the line

1190
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 1: of scrimmage when you got guys that are six six,

1191
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 1: you know, two seventy or three twenty up in front

1192
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 1: on the defensive line. I thought there was a couple

1193
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: of times last year, particularly for a team like Buffalo

1194
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 1: who play nickel so much, he only got six big

1195
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 1: boys on the field, and it's hard. It's hard to

1196
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 1: get those guys stopped right. And as I mentioned, you know,

1197
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 1: he played on the inside early in his college career.

1198
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's playing like a four eye position

1199
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 1: and he has foot surgery after his sophomore year, and

1200
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: they transition him to end this past year and he

1201
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 1: dropped twenty pounds. He was playing at two ninety and

1202
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 1: now he's playing at two seventy. And I kind of

1203
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 1: think that playing inside helped him in terms of his

1204
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 1: pad level and leverage, because if you don't play low inside,

1205
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 1: you don't have a chance. Now he goes to the outside,

1206
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 1: and you watch his tape this year and he's walking

1207
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: offensive tackles back because he learned the leverage game because

1208
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 1: he had no choice playing inside full time. Now he

1209
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 1: goes outside and he's still playing with that leverage and

1210
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 1: he's winning against taller players. Yeah. Well, and there's not

1211
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: too many taller players out there. He's six and I

1212
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 1: and I love that. You know, it's just he's under

1213
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 1: the radar, and he's he's ranked, you know, some of

1214
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: these places they got him like the fifty eighth player ranked,

1215
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 1: so he's not top one hundred, but that's a guy

1216
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 1: I think will probably he's probably going top fifty picks. Yeah,

1217
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll be there for the Bills second,

1218
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 1: especially with all the edge rush needs of the team's

1219
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 1: Joe mentioned at the top of round two, right, he's

1220
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 1: gonna come off because I saw him in an interview too,

1221
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 1: a fantastic kid, like he's gonna go like he checks

1222
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 1: the character box, he checks to do anything for my

1223
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 1: team box. Having played inside at two hundred and ninety

1224
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 1: pounds and then losing twenty pounds to go back on

1225
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 1: the edge. And that's a kid that's gonna do anything

1226
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 1: he can to make his team, to help his team.

1227
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: I said it yesterday. Some of these guys, you know,

1228
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,879
Speaker 1: Epineza did it last year. You get these guys, particularly

1229
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: the young age, like we talked about Devin Singletary doing

1230
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 1: it this year, working on his body composition. That takes

1231
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 1: an incredible amount of work in discipline for a young

1232
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 1: guy to a display. Yeah, and forgot like Peyton Turner,

1233
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 1: who's a big, big dude dropping twenty You say, well,

1234
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 1: it's dropping twenty. It's dropping twenty pounds and playing well

1235
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 1: after you do it, and actually playing better after you

1236
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 1: do it. I says a lot about where his commitment is,

1237
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 1: and I'm just uh. And in the other box, he

1238
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: checks his position stability, So I'm I'm like, where I'm

1239
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 1: at with Peyton Turner is kind of where I'm at

1240
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 1: with rus Greg Rousseau and the fact that he really

1241
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 1: dominated this year when he actually got on the field

1242
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: and they moved him back outside, moved him outside and

1243
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 1: dropped twenty pounds, and all of a sudden, he's crushing people. Um,

1244
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 1: you can talk yourself into anybody, you know. It sounds

1245
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,600
Speaker 1: like you have right. So I don't know, but I

1246
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 1: still think Greg Russo is the better talent because of

1247
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 1: his length and his versatility. Is there. I have no

1248
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 1: idea whether Peyton Turner's injury is a big deal for people. Well,

1249
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 1: they'll they'll check it for sure. Surgery is foot. Surgery

1250
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 1: wasn't what he did this last year season? Was it?

1251
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 1: I'll have to check. I want to say he might

1252
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 1: have had it. Yeah, so that's that's shoulders. I can't

1253
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 1: remember all these players run together after a while. Uh,

1254
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 1: we have somebody supporting your Greg Russo argument, Steve. It's

1255
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 1: Robert in Toronto joining us on One Bill's Live. Robert,

1256
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 1: what do you have for us? Remember all these players

1257
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 1: run together after a while, Robert, turn your radio down.

1258
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 1: Hello there, go ahead, Robert. Hey, guys, just want to

1259
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 1: say I really agree with what Joe said, except for always.

1260
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,799
Speaker 1: I think always more of a guy that's not proven

1261
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 1: but a guy that's if I can make a bit

1262
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,639
Speaker 1: of a Derby analogy, a bit of a guy that works.

1263
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: Oh great, But I like Russo and I want to

1264
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 1: talk Steve back into Russo because Russel's proved it on

1265
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 1: the field and I want guys that proved on the field.

1266
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 1: If I could make a comment about the second round,

1267
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 1: if we go with a corner there and maybe a

1268
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 1: guy like Benjamin Saint who's got some links, and in

1269
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 1: the third round Tommy Tremble the tight end from order Damon,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to turn it off on to your comments.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Yeah, no problem, Robert. I think there is

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Speaker 1: an argument to be made to hopefully get the edge

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Speaker 1: rusher you want, or that you believe fits the value

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Speaker 1: for you at thirty because I think, as we just

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01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 1: heard from Joe, there's probably going to be a run

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Speaker 1: on more edge guys at the top of round two

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Speaker 1: in terms of whatever fits the value there. And it's

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Speaker 1: generally believed by some of the draft experts Dane Brugler,

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Speaker 1: who has been on this show, that there's this second

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Speaker 1: tier of corners that are expected to start ticking off

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Speaker 1: the board in the second half of round two. So

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Speaker 1: does it get all the way down to the bills.

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Speaker 1: It's sixty one. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. But

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Speaker 1: I think you have a greater chance of landing a

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Speaker 1: corner you can be happy with in round two than

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Speaker 1: you do landing an edge rusher you would be happy

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Speaker 1: with in round two. The question is are you gonna

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Speaker 1: get what you like? Volunteer at thirty in round one

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Speaker 1: to take an edge rusher you're excited about, Well, that's

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Speaker 1: the big unknown. Yeah, And once you get down into

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Speaker 1: the second, third round, I think it's even more and

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Speaker 1: more getting to the point for this franchise where it

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Speaker 1: sits with this roster. You take the best guy out there,

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna let him chance, give him a chance.

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Speaker 1: And there's enough We've talked about this enough that it's

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Speaker 1: almost to the point where while there's a ton of them,

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Speaker 1: you start looking around. He got all these guys on

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Speaker 1: one year deals, but you also have like guys in

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Speaker 1: the last year of their deal. This is a team

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01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 1: that once again, just like they did two years ago

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01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 1: and this like they did this year, they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: a ton of guys that are not on the team

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01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 1: after that last snap of the football in whatever game

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Speaker 1: they in their season on. It's gonna be a vastly

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01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 1: different group coming back in twenty twenty two that it's

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Speaker 1: going to be in twenty twenty one, just like it's

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01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 1: gonna be in twenty twenty one that it was in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. So, but it's scary to think about all

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Speaker 1: these guys leaving when they are such a healthy con

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Speaker 1: tributors to what you're trying to do. Jerry Hughes just

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01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 1: to be just one same thing we have with Levi

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01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 1: Wallace and tarn Johnson. They're gonna be out the door,

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Speaker 1: perhaps Mario Addison, all these guys there, Mitch Morris is

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Speaker 1: going to be in the last year of his deal.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a different group. And that's the way

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Speaker 1: they have decided to build the team. And one of

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Speaker 1: the things we talk about, and we've talked about this

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Speaker 1: in the break, talking about trading up, trading down. I

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Speaker 1: think the philosophy of this year's draft is going to

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Speaker 1: be slightly different for the Buffalo Bills. We talk about

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Speaker 1: Brandon being trade up, trading up, trading up, trading up,

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Speaker 1: but that was when they were trying to fine guys

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01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 1: who could really get it done for them. But for

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Speaker 1: the most part, they got those guys. So I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's gonna be a reason to drop some other

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Speaker 1: draft picks into this because there's gonna be a guy

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Speaker 1: who's gonna make a huge difference. I mean, even if

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Speaker 1: they get the edge rusher of their choice in this draft,

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Speaker 1: he's going to rotate in right. I mean, there's no

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Speaker 1: other way to look at it. The world on fire

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01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 1: and training camp. He is not going to come in

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Speaker 1: and play better than Jerry Hughes does, even at Jerry

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Speaker 1: Hughes advanced age. He's gonna have to earn his way

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Speaker 1: on the field. The one place you could say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the guy's gonna make a difference is at corner maybe,

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Speaker 1: and that's if you get one of the guys that

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Speaker 1: checks off all the physical boxes and that, you know,

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Speaker 1: all the technical stuff that the corner's got to do.

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01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 1: Other than that, I mean, there's nobody gonna be there

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Speaker 1: at this in this draft, even in the twenties that

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01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 1: are gonna be like, wow, we got him. Look at this.

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01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna be a guy who's gonna Okay,

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01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 1: he's just one of this because he's this group's high

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01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 1: level at every position. Group. So to think you're gonna

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01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 1: get this guy's gonna come in and splash, it's just

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01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. The roster is too good. So I

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01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 1: think you know they're not gonna I don't think they're

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01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 1: gonna trade down or do it. I think this draft

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01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 1: is gonna be much different for this Bill's front office,

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01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 1: and just because of where they are in their rebuild,

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01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 1: and they're not really rebuilding anymore. But jin Buffalo, Paul

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01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 1: and Florida hang tight. We have to step aside right

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01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 1: here and take a break. But when we come back,

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01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 1: we'll get to your phone calls, and we'll also get

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01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 1: to the guys Steve and I have for the bills

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Speaker 1: at thirty. We will reveal those when we return here

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Speaker 1: on One Bills Line presented by Collid to Health, this

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Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna jump right back on the phone lines. If

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Speaker 1: we're asking you who you got for the bills at

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Speaker 1: thirty in round one of the twenty twenty one NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: Tonight waiting patiently is Butch in Buffalo. Butch, what do

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Speaker 1: you have for us? You're on One Bills Live. First

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Speaker 1: of all. Good afternoon, gentlemen. See Chris, you know I

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01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 1: loved you, guys. It's been a long time since I

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01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:55,679
Speaker 1: spoke with you by you already know I'm a follower,

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01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 1: and you got to outstand and you're doing a helmet

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01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 1: job as usual. Thanks. Good year from him. You know

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01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 1: you want to rock and I really appreciate both of you.

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Speaker 1: I just really want to say this. You know, before

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Speaker 1: I saw this call, and Chris you know, Sqeeve you

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Speaker 1: know too, I always said Brandon Bean went ahead when

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01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 1: grocery shopping has stopped the shells for years. This year,

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01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 1: you know, the meal they put together this year about

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01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 1: going to the SEC Championship was outstanding. The dessert was outstanding,

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01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 1: the meal was outstanding. Unfortunately, you know, somebody beat this.

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01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 1: We couldn't get to the show. Now, looking forward with that,

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01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 1: when you look at the drafts moving forward, it's not

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01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 1: about just getting seven picks like we used to do

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01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 1: and just try to try to build a team. The

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01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 1: team is already built right now. We're adding to the team.

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Speaker 1: So what I'm looking at it in this draft, I

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01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 1: really want to combine this year's draft and next year's

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01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 1: draft and make one whole draft that will be for

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Speaker 1: two years. Saying that we have a first round pick,

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01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 1: we got other picks. I'm looking I would like this

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Speaker 1: is me personally. I would like that Brandon being his crew,

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01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:02,599
Speaker 1: look sat combining both this year and next year's draft.

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Speaker 1: If we have to move up and just get four

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01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 1: players out of this draft and maybe four players out

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Speaker 1: of next year draft with his eight players out of

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Speaker 1: the total of fifteen or fourteen players, or even put

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01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 1: it even seven players out of fifteen players. But at

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01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 1: least these seven players are gonna be active on our team.

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01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,720
Speaker 1: They're gonna pitch other players so they can play and

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01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,440
Speaker 1: make our team even stronger because we still have free agency.

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01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 1: So moving what we're saying that I looked at You know,

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01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:31,600
Speaker 1: people always talked about the running back from Clemson, and

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01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 1: I know the buildings that may might be looking at them,

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01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 1: but I don't really think they're gonna go at thirty

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01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 1: with them. But I'm thinking like this, if we pick

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01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 1: it thirty, I wouldn't be surprised if they've come from

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01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 1: the second and move right back into the early prior

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01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 1: to the second round and grab a player and sacrifice

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01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 1: maybe some draft picks this year and maybe some draft

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01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 1: picks next year, but we can combine next year's draft

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01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 1: and this year's draft to have one slide draft. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. I appreciate you taking my call. I as

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01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 1: you know, I love you guys. I'll bless you and

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01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 1: your families and you stay say gold Bills, I love you,

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01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thanks, thanks, but appreciate that. I

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01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: hope your family as well. Also. Yeah, I mean I

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01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 1: understand the what Pusch is trying to explain. There get

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01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 1: guys that you know definitively are going to make your

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01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 1: roster because they're at the high end of the talent

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01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 1: pool in this year's class and next year's class. But

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01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,680
Speaker 1: I think we know this, Steve, because we've talked about it.

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01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 1: The class this year is thin just from a pure

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01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 1: numbers standpoint, and the class next year is going to

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01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 1: be extraordinarily deep. Six round picks could be like fifth

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01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 1: round picks next year, maybe even fourth round. We were

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01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: talking about it in the break. One GM has said

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Speaker 1: next year's draft picks are absolute worth, absolute gold. You're

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01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:47,759
Speaker 1: not going to see teams passing those out this season.

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01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:51,759
Speaker 1: You know, on a whim, there is a real sense

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01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 1: that next year's draft is going to be a big,

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01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 1: rich harvest of good players. So everybody wants as many

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01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:00,680
Speaker 1: picks as they can get next year, So don't look

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01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 1: for teams to be given those away from this point

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01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 1: going for right. So from that standpoint, I don't anticipate

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01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 1: the Bills doing that. Now, make no mistake. Steve's listed

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01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 1: a bunch of the names already on today's show. Got

1433
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 1: a lot of older players in the final years of

1434
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 1: their contract, even young guys on their rookie deals, in

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01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 1: the final years of their contract, and you're not going

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01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 1: to be able to sign the young all of them anyway,

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01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 1: to big second contracts, which is what those players are

1438
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 1: going to be looking for. They're thinking, like Tarn Johnson's like, look, man,

1439
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 1: I've played a ton of snaps in my four year career.

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01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 1: I've made big plays. You remember the Ravens game in

1441
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 1: the playoffs last year. Like that's what he and his

1442
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 1: agent are going to be saying next offseason when he

1443
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 1: hits the free agent market. Yeah, I'm worth It was

1444
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 1: an absolute historic play. My team played ninety percent. Nickel.

1445
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 1: I got a lot of time on the field under

1446
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 1: my belt in this league, covering some of the best people.

1447
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 1: You've ever seen my team put me on Tyreek Hill

1448
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 1: in the slot, you know, Like that's what he's gonna

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01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,719
Speaker 1: be doing when he's selling himself next year. He's gonna

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01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 1: be expecting big money and he's worked hard. I can't

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01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 1: even argue that he hasn't earned it because he has.

1452
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 1: He's been a model teammate and done everything the Bills

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01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 1: have asked him to do. And more so, he wants

1454
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 1: to get paid, and he deserves to get paid, and

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01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:20,759
Speaker 1: the market will say what he deserves to be paid,

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01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 1: but the Bills probably aren't going to be in on that.

1457
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:25,680
Speaker 1: So that's a guy they've got to replace. Same thing

1458
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 1: at defensive end with Jerry Hughes and Mario Addison. Those

1459
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 1: two guys are probably not here in twenty twenty two.

1460
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 1: They can't afford to sign those guys back for primetime

1461
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 1: veteran money. So you need to start putting people in

1462
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 1: the pipeline this year and again next year. And I

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01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 1: don't know, butch if saying let's get four impact players

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01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 1: that we know can start right away or be impact

1465
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 1: guys that are active on game day, you can do

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01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 1: that this year and next year and then be done

1467
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,639
Speaker 1: with it. You still need guys to backfill your roster,

1468
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 1: two guys like well, you know Gabriel Davis, who's sup

1469
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 1: rises and becomes a bigger player than you anticipated. But

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Speaker 1: even Isaiah Hodgins was having a good camp until the

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Speaker 1: shoulder thing popped up. He probably would have been on

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Speaker 1: the roster as a six round draft choice. Well, and

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01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 1: I get Butcher's right, it's a great philosophy. The problem

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01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:22,839
Speaker 1: is it's it's too good of a philosophy. Yeah, every

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01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 1: club would trade their last three draft picks for one

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01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 1: in the top three rounds. Yeah, nobody's doing that. If

1477
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Speaker 1: you can get four players out of every draft, you

1478
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 1: were winning the Super Bowl every couple of years. That's

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Speaker 1: how teams do it. You get two drafts in a

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01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 1: row where you get three starters, you're in the super Bowl.

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01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 1: That's the way it works, because you're you got six

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01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 1: guys that are starters on their rookie contracts, and that's

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01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 1: what happens. Look at the Seattle Seahawks. They went to

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01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 1: two straight Super Bowls because they got three starters, including

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01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 1: a quarterback in the in the two drafts in a row,

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01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 1: and they crushed it. So, yeah, I get the philosophy.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a In fact, he said, than done is yeah,

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01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna I mean, you can try it, but you're

1489
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 1: what are you gonna give to get to give up

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01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 1: a Because every time you do this, you think we

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01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 1: should give up our fifth, sixth, and seventh rounders for

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01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 1: an extra third rounder. Yeah, well everybody would do that, right,

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01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 1: And the problem is it's gonna be harder to do

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01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 1: that this year because the value of the fifth, sixth,

1495
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 1: and seven round picks are less than what they usually are.

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01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 1: Because everybody under the sun that's in personnel in the

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01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 1: NFL knows this draft class is thin. So now the

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Speaker 1: value of a fifth round pick or the value of

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01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 1: a sixth round pick or seventh round pick is less

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Speaker 1: than what it usually is. So if Brandon Bean gets

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Speaker 1: on the phone and says, hey, I got two fives

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01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:46,200
Speaker 1: to six and a seven, you give me your you're

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01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 1: late four, They're gonna hang up the phone. They won't

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01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 1: do it because they know there's gonna be nothing left.

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01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 1: They won't even give you their fifth. You can give

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01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 1: them your fifth, sixth, and seventh. They won't give you

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01:22:56,360 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 1: a fifth next year, no, because the fifth is like

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01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 1: a fourth. Next year class will give you that so

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01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 1: great idea, I said, than done, and even harder this

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01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 1: year because the draft class is so thick. It always

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01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 1: comes back to this, this one one aspect. No matter

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01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 1: where you're drafting or how many picks you have, there's

1513
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 1: always going to be a guy in that draft class,

1514
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 1: in that pool on your board that's gonna be better

1515
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 1: than that pick. Where is it? Which guy is it? Unfortunately,

1516
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:29,720
Speaker 1: those guys it's hard to see. It's hard to know.

1517
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:33,679
Speaker 1: You may not. You may have fifteen offensive lineman already

1518
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 1: and it's that one and at the sixteenth pick that

1519
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:38,599
Speaker 1: may be the guy that's better than all of them.

1520
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 1: You'd never know. The absolute holy grail of the NFL

1521
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 1: draft is getting guys that are that will play great,

1522
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 1: way above their draft station and be with your team

1523
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 1: for a decade and a half from the fifth round.

1524
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:57,679
Speaker 1: I'll Matt Milano, you know, I like Kyle Williams. Those

1525
01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 1: kind of guys They're hard to find because they don't

1526
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:03,639
Speaker 1: jump off the page when you go look at them,

1527
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 1: when you go watch them play, when you go see

1528
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 1: them and talk to them. They're great guys. Sure, but

1529
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 1: I got this for you. There's a hundreds of great

1530
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 1: kids coming out of college trying to play in the NFL.

1531
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 1: Hundreds of great kids, quality men, but they can't play.

1532
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 1: You got to find the ones that can play and

1533
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 1: who are also quality people. And the best philosophy, and

1534
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 1: the one that works the most is the one that says,

1535
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 1: get as many picks as you can and pick all

1536
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 1: of them, because if you hit the same percentage that

1537
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 1: everybody else does, you get more picks. That means you

1538
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 1: hit on more guys. It's that simple. You cast a

1539
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 1: wider net. You're gonna find some guys that are good,

1540
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 1: and some guys you draft higher than others, and they

1541
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 1: come in and they're more valuable in reverse order. You know,

1542
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 1: the guys you draft late actually are better than the

1543
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 1: ones you drafted early. Who could have said, but that's

1544
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:01,559
Speaker 1: the philosophy that those teams try to ascribe. To give

1545
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 1: me as many draft picks as I can possibly get

1546
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 1: every single year, and will cast a wide net, and

1547
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:10,679
Speaker 1: somebody somewhere is going to be able to play. Back

1548
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 1: to the phones into Paul in Florida. Paul, what do

1549
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 1: you have for us? You're on one bills live. Hey, Chris,

1550
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 1: say Steve listen. I'd like to make a case for

1551
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:21,759
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the football, and I think the Bills.

1552
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 1: You hear a lot about they need running decks, but

1553
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:28,679
Speaker 1: the Bills don't need running decks. They have several good ones.

1554
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 1: What they need is somebody can open holes for him.

1555
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 1: And I think with the thirtieth pick, I think the

1556
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 1: Bills should take a center, and specifically either Creed Humphrey

1557
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 1: from Oklahoma or Landon Dickerson from Alabama six four, six five,

1558
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 1: twenty three, twenty five, that both being touted as future

1559
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 1: folk Pro Bowlers. And I think Steve would agree that

1560
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 1: he played with one of the best centers that ever

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01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 1: ever played, and he made a huge difference in this team,

1562
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 1: right I think I think that's exactly what the team needs.

1563
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:09,760
Speaker 1: I think I'm sorry, but Mitch Morris's future is tenitive,

1564
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 1: you know, and I really think it's time right now

1565
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 1: they have an opportunity if the problem, of course is

1566
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 1: that other teams head centers. Green Bay is going to

1567
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 1: take one right before him at twenty nine. Pittsburgh has

1568
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 1: to replace Pouty. So those are two problems that those

1569
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 1: would have to look at that I really think for

1570
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 1: the future and for now, I think the best choice

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01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 1: would be a center. You're you're speaking Steve's language. He's

1572
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 1: been I'm totally naming that. Improving the run game is

1573
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 1: all about improving your offensive line, not taking a running back.

1574
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 1: And I would tend to agree with that. As a

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01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 1: matter of fact, Creed Humphrey is my wild card pick

1576
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,679
Speaker 1: for the Bills for our draft show tonight that we're

1577
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:53,679
Speaker 1: streaming at seven thirty PM. Take a look around, look around.

1578
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 1: Zekiel Elliott and his rookie season led the league in

1579
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 1: rushing and was crushing people. He had three Pro bowl

1580
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 1: was all pros up in front of him, had had

1581
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 1: a dominant offensive line. Those guys can't. Their contract came up,

1582
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 1: some of them left, you know, all that stuff. Their

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01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:10,760
Speaker 1: offensive line changed in front of him. Now he's he's

1584
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 1: nicked up and sitting on the sideline and the team's

1585
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 1: not winning as many games. I'm it's all about for me,

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01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 1: it's all about the offensive line. You're right. I did

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01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:22,599
Speaker 1: play with Kent Hall. He was one of the great

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01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 1: centers ever, one of the great human beings ever, and

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01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 1: he held that whole thing together. And you know, the

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01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 1: success of that team was due in large part of

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01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 1: the dominance of their offensive line. I said last week,

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01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:37,720
Speaker 1: or maybe it was this week, that the year their

1593
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 1: first Super Bowl, there were seven players in the entire NFL,

1594
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:44,759
Speaker 1: in the entire NFL that we're listed at three hundred pounds.

1595
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:47,639
Speaker 1: We had three of them starting on our offensive line.

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01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 1: Three of the seven in the entire league, we had them,

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01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 1: and they were all starting. It matters, It matters how

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01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:58,919
Speaker 1: good those guys are, and it always matters. It never changes.

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01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 1: It's always constant, whether they run the ball or pass it,

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01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 1: whether they whether it's a throwing league or running league,

1601
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 1: whether it's zone blocking or gap scheme, power game. If

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01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 1: your offensive line is good, your offense is going to

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01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 1: be good. Right, We ran out of time in this segment,

1604
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 1: But when we come back, Steve and I will let

1605
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 1: you know who we have as our ideal guys for

1606
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 1: pick number thirty for the Bills. Next here on One

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Speaker 1: is time we've asked our callers, our listeners, what their

1626
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 1: pick is at thirty for the bills tonight, What sir,

1627
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 1: is yours mine? Who I think the guy want would

1628
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:02,200
Speaker 1: probably be an offensive lineman, truth be told, But I

1629
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:04,759
Speaker 1: don't think this guy's I don't think Tevin Jenkins Oklahoma

1630
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 1: State's going to be there, So I think the Bills

1631
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:09,640
Speaker 1: are gonna take Greg Rousseau, the defensive lineman out of

1632
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:12,479
Speaker 1: the University of Miami six feet seven and she's tall too,

1633
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:17,719
Speaker 1: it or sixty six pounds. He he's can move inside

1634
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 1: as a pass rusher, plays defensive end, but he also

1635
01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 1: rushes from the interior, which is something that Versatility's big

1636
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:30,599
Speaker 1: he is. He's not to me. His physical gifts are

1637
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 1: not his explosion and movement. It's his size and reach

1638
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:37,479
Speaker 1: and his ability and his versatility. I told we said

1639
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 1: this earlier with when we had Joe Biscallion. He moved.

1640
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 1: I think so once in a while. He rushes a

1641
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:44,800
Speaker 1: little bit like like a basketball player. You know. He's

1642
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 1: just he doesn't seem real physical and explosive, but he

1643
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 1: does have a fast motor. He does. He is has

1644
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:55,840
Speaker 1: been productive. He's very slippery down inside. When offensive linemen

1645
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 1: are trying to look and see other guys, he slips

1646
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:01,280
Speaker 1: By's got good good ability to get buy offensive lineman,

1647
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 1: particularly in the interior, and when the pocket collapses, the

1648
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 1: guy can reach around people to pull a guy down.

1649
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 1: He's the guy with the huge hands. He's got big

1650
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 1: meat hooks for hands, and when he gets a handful

1651
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 1: of Jersey. It's a tackle, I think that's the guy.

1652
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:21,719
Speaker 1: I think if it's not corner or offensive lineman or whatever,

1653
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 1: and I think those guys will start to be thinned

1654
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 1: out if they're gonna go edge. I think this is

1655
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 1: the guy they're gonna go to. And I think Russeau's

1656
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:30,599
Speaker 1: gonna be a He's gonna be a big, tall, ranging

1657
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:32,960
Speaker 1: guy down inside for the Bills on pass rushing. There's

1658
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 1: a part of me that hopes that Washington's Joe Tryon

1659
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:40,760
Speaker 1: is there for them the edge rusher for the Huskies.

1660
01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:43,680
Speaker 1: I'm not convinced he will be, but if he's there,

1661
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:47,200
Speaker 1: I hope they take him. Um I'm worried there's gonna

1662
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 1: be a run on edge rushers as well as corners,

1663
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 1: and that the Bills could be left with limited options

1664
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:58,439
Speaker 1: there and maybe even trade down. But for the thirtieth pick,

1665
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:00,280
Speaker 1: I think a guy that's kind of flown under the

1666
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 1: radar and more people have mocked at the top of

1667
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 1: round two than the bottom of round one is Georgia

1668
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:09,880
Speaker 1: corner Eric Stokes, who I think matches what the Bills

1669
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 1: look for in many ways. I think the only thing

1670
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 1: he's missing right now he needs to get a little

1671
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 1: bit stronger, but he's scheme versatile. And the thing that

1672
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:21,439
Speaker 1: I like the most about his season this past year

1673
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:28,760
Speaker 1: was he started converting his pass breakups into interceptions led

1674
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:31,000
Speaker 1: Georgia and I and t s with four this season,

1675
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:35,280
Speaker 1: two of which he returned for touchdowns. And there's ball

1676
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:39,799
Speaker 1: production every single year. Nine pass breakups in twenty eighteen,

1677
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:43,880
Speaker 1: nine pass breakups in twenty nineteen, eight pass breakups in

1678
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:48,960
Speaker 1: twenty twenty having only played nine games, so the consistency

1679
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 1: is there. The kid burns up a stopwatch. He's a

1680
01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 1: former track athlete, but he does not play like a

1681
01:32:55,520 --> 01:33:00,200
Speaker 1: track athlete. He's pretty aggressive, does a good job of

1682
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 1: breaking down and making tackles, so he looks like he

1683
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:05,479
Speaker 1: has the ability to be a run support corner, which

1684
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:09,560
Speaker 1: is important in Sean McDermott and Leslie Frasier's scheme. And

1685
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:11,560
Speaker 1: he can run for days. You need to put a

1686
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 1: guy on Tyreek Hill who can run with him. This

1687
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:17,600
Speaker 1: guy runs a four two ninety so to me and

1688
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:21,120
Speaker 1: six one, you know, one hundred and ninety four pounds.

1689
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:23,439
Speaker 1: He adds a little bit of weight, gets a little stronger,

1690
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:25,960
Speaker 1: you know, mature is into a full grown man that

1691
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:28,840
Speaker 1: plays in the NFL. I don't mind them taking him

1692
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:31,720
Speaker 1: at thirty even if some people project him as, you know,

1693
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:35,800
Speaker 1: a pick thirty five or pick thirty six. I'm all

1694
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:38,400
Speaker 1: too happy if they take this guy. If the early

1695
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 1: run on the top tier of corners has happened. We've

1696
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 1: heard Brandon being say himself that, hey, we're almost picking

1697
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:48,639
Speaker 1: in the second round, picking thirtieth. Take this kid, especially

1698
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:50,519
Speaker 1: if the top five corners are off the board. This

1699
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:52,160
Speaker 1: is a good guy to have as the sixth corner

1700
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:53,880
Speaker 1: in the draft. I would agree he had to put

1701
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:57,800
Speaker 1: him at the sixth corner, even with Farley being having

1702
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 1: the back surgery and having the medical questions, he dropped

1703
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:02,519
Speaker 1: to that point he could. He's gonna he's gonna be

1704
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 1: one of the biggest storylines. I think so too, because

1705
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:09,120
Speaker 1: he's really he's big, he's a ridiculous athlete. But he's

1706
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:11,559
Speaker 1: got a he's had two back surgeries since the last

1707
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:16,360
Speaker 1: time he played football. Just had one in January. So yeah, yeah,

1708
01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:18,680
Speaker 1: you know, but a guy like Eric Stokes, with the

1709
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 1: speed that he has, I think he could really help

1710
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:26,760
Speaker 1: help it. And I'm m I'm with you. I'm I

1711
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:29,639
Speaker 1: would be so I'll be ecstatic if they take edge rusher,

1712
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 1: corner or an offensive lineman, any one of the three

1713
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:34,599
Speaker 1: is fine with me. We've talked to a little bit

1714
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:36,720
Speaker 1: because Brandon Beans said that he was gonna do They

1715
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:39,640
Speaker 1: were gonna do this long term thinking. Okay, So they

1716
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:42,360
Speaker 1: got four their five offensive lineman tied up from multiple

1717
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 1: year deals, Cody Ford at left guard, Dion Dawkins left tackle,

1718
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:51,679
Speaker 1: Feliciano and Daryl Williams at right guard right tackle. Respectedly,

1719
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:53,760
Speaker 1: Mitch Morris is the guy that they're talking about, and

1720
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:56,720
Speaker 1: Feliciano can play center if he needs to. Uh, They're

1721
01:34:56,800 --> 01:34:58,640
Speaker 1: kind of set at offensive line, so there's really no

1722
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:04,760
Speaker 1: next year positional emergencies at corner. Yeah, there is at

1723
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:08,679
Speaker 1: edge rusher. Gather is because they got guys whose contracts

1724
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 1: are expiring a lot of them at both those spots.

1725
01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:13,599
Speaker 1: So I think edge rusher and corner are where they're

1726
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:15,559
Speaker 1: kind of looking at long term. And as I said,

1727
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:17,920
Speaker 1: my wild card pick is Creed Humphrey. I think if

1728
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:20,639
Speaker 1: there's nothing edge rusher, there's nothing at corner that fits

1729
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:23,479
Speaker 1: their value and they can't move back, you could do

1730
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:25,720
Speaker 1: a whole lot worse than having Creed Humphrey on your roster.

1731
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:29,120
Speaker 1: So that would be my wild card guy. We have

1732
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:31,639
Speaker 1: to take a break. When we return, though, we're gonna

1733
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 1: talk more draft with Established the Run founder and writer

1734
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:38,679
Speaker 1: Evan Silva used to write for Rhodo World, a popular

1735
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:41,840
Speaker 1: fantasy site for just about all the professional leagues. Now

1736
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:44,680
Speaker 1: he's doing his own thing and Established the Run. We'll

1737
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:46,840
Speaker 1: talk to Evan Silva next here on One Bill's Live,

1738
01:35:46,880 --> 01:36:06,720
Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio at a

1739
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:10,160
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker who has been all all over the fields.

1740
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:11,840
Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

1741
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:18,240
Speaker 1: player for you, Steve. Steve a blimp. We're not even

1742
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:24,599
Speaker 1: in the strated here of normalcy. Here. Welcome to our

1743
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:29,840
Speaker 1: number three of our Thursday Draft Day edition of One

1744
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:32,679
Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Chris Brown sleeves after with you as always

1745
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 1: awaiting the arrival of Established the Run founder and writer.

1746
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:39,640
Speaker 1: Oh he is out, Okay, Good time to go to

1747
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 1: the phone lines the zoom lines. Established a Run founder

1748
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:47,519
Speaker 1: and writer, also co hosts of Established a Run podcast.

1749
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:50,439
Speaker 1: It is one eleven. Evan Silva joining us on the

1750
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 1: line right now. Evan, how you doing. Welcome to Draft Day.

1751
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:57,599
Speaker 1: We're here. Yeah, I'm excited. Chris Brown been a big

1752
01:36:57,680 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 1: fan of yours for a long time. Steve Tasker legend.

1753
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:02,760
Speaker 1: I got a buddy who I work with and he's

1754
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 1: a big Bills fan, lives up there in Western New York.

1755
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 1: He's got a Steve Tasker jersey that he wears all

1756
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:12,160
Speaker 1: the time proudly. So it's gonna be with you guys.

1757
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:15,120
Speaker 1: Let's talk some drafts. Yeah there, Yeah, Steve Tasker jerseys

1758
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 1: are really hard to fund. I mean, I don't have any.

1759
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:21,759
Speaker 1: You've been doing that. We've been chewing on this draft

1760
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:24,439
Speaker 1: like gum and over the last you know, you go,

1761
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:26,439
Speaker 1: you go all the way around the block with every

1762
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:28,519
Speaker 1: position and all that. The Bills the last couple of

1763
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:30,640
Speaker 1: days have been linked to maybe even trading up to

1764
01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:33,599
Speaker 1: get Travis atn or Naji Harris or one of these

1765
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 1: running backs. And we only hear about two or maybe

1766
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:40,400
Speaker 1: three running backs in this draft. How could you what's

1767
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:43,320
Speaker 1: this draft? Black? Where's this draft class of running backs?

1768
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 1: Where's it fall in the history of your history of

1769
01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:48,559
Speaker 1: covering the draft? How good is this running back class?

1770
01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 1: It's really really bad? Yeah, really bad, you know, and

1771
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be nice, but it's it's really really rough.

1772
01:37:57,160 --> 01:38:00,080
Speaker 1: I started off the draft process by I do a

1773
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 1: lot of fantasy football coverage, and so I want, I

1774
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:05,080
Speaker 1: need to be real clued in with the RBS, and

1775
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:08,640
Speaker 1: so I went early on. I looked at um etn

1776
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:13,240
Speaker 1: and Nage Harris and um Javante Williams and Trey Sermon,

1777
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:15,160
Speaker 1: and all those guys are pretty good. I think that

1778
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:17,640
Speaker 1: the first three guys in particular, are probably going to

1779
01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:20,280
Speaker 1: be starters in the NFL. Tray Sermons got a shot,

1780
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:22,880
Speaker 1: and then you just fall off a cliff. I mean,

1781
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:26,880
Speaker 1: it's a bunch of committee backs at best. You know,

1782
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:29,799
Speaker 1: guys that might have been a little productive in college

1783
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 1: but really aren't aren't athletic enough to be to be

1784
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:37,000
Speaker 1: like long term pros, Guys that are going to end

1785
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 1: up playing a lot of special teams, you know, just

1786
01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 1: back into the roster guys. And and so I think,

1787
01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:46,720
Speaker 1: I wonder if that position scarcity, you know, with just

1788
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:50,040
Speaker 1: there there being three maybe four good running backs, is

1789
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:51,960
Speaker 1: going to actually vault some of the RBS up the

1790
01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 1: board at the top. I actually expect that to happen.

1791
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:58,439
Speaker 1: I think we'll see two first round running backs, maybe three.

1792
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:01,719
Speaker 1: Um And you know, as you guys know, the bills

1793
01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:05,000
Speaker 1: are sort of in within striking distance. With that said,

1794
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:08,360
Speaker 1: I think that they could glean more value from a

1795
01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:11,280
Speaker 1: pass defender. I thought there. You know, their offense took

1796
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:14,000
Speaker 1: off last year, but their their defense I thought was

1797
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:18,400
Speaker 1: a little bit disappointing at times. And um, I thought

1798
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:24,160
Speaker 1: some of it was due to um uh lack of

1799
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:27,560
Speaker 1: elite pass rush and then uh and then they I

1800
01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 1: think that they have a need, a leg legitimate need

1801
01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:34,759
Speaker 1: in the secondary. So you know, I prefer a Sante

1802
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:37,519
Speaker 1: Samuel junior out of Florida State. I talked with Joe

1803
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:40,000
Speaker 1: B I think you guys had him on the show earlier,

1804
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:42,479
Speaker 1: talk with him on Twitter DM, and I think that

1805
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:46,599
Speaker 1: he's on the Sante Samuel Junior train as well. Um

1806
01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:49,200
Speaker 1: and also maybe maybe a pass rusher two. I think

1807
01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:51,439
Speaker 1: that they they I think they should look at pass rushers.

1808
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 1: I think they can have a competent ground game with

1809
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 1: what they have right now in place. Um, but I

1810
01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:00,120
Speaker 1: think that I think that they would be better. Are

1811
01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:03,720
Speaker 1: off taking a pasta thunder. Yeah, and you kind of

1812
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 1: stole my thunder because I was going to pump up

1813
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:08,080
Speaker 1: your your mock draft on Established the Run dot com.

1814
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:10,599
Speaker 1: That's okay, Hey, man, you want to, you can talk

1815
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 1: about your stuff whenever the hell you want. It doesn't

1816
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:14,559
Speaker 1: make a difference to me. I'm just gonna probably repeat

1817
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:17,000
Speaker 1: it here anyway. So you have Assante Samuel As you're

1818
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:20,360
Speaker 1: picked to the Bills at thirty overall. And while I

1819
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:22,840
Speaker 1: would be fine with that pick one hundred percent, my

1820
01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:25,479
Speaker 1: concern is there's going to be this cornerback run before

1821
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:27,800
Speaker 1: the Bills get on the clock. Because you look at

1822
01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 1: teams like the Colts, the Titans, the Jets, the Steelers, Jags, Browns, Ravens, Saints, Packers,

1823
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:36,679
Speaker 1: those are the guys picking all in order ten spots

1824
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:39,040
Speaker 1: before the Bills. You can make an argument for corner

1825
01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:41,200
Speaker 1: for almost every one of them. Now, not every single

1826
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:43,160
Speaker 1: one is going to take a corner, but when you

1827
01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:46,120
Speaker 1: have that many teams with corner needs, it concerns me

1828
01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:49,920
Speaker 1: a little bit. And so I'm hoping maybe the edge

1829
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:52,920
Speaker 1: rusher position will have better value for them if there

1830
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:55,960
Speaker 1: is in fact a cornerback run. And that's not catastrophic

1831
01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:57,960
Speaker 1: to me, Evan, and tell me if you agree with this,

1832
01:40:58,120 --> 01:41:00,680
Speaker 1: but I think in the set and half of the

1833
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:05,760
Speaker 1: second round, there's another tier of corners there that they

1834
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 1: may not be day one starters, but you know as

1835
01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:11,720
Speaker 1: the course of their rookie seasons where on maybe they

1836
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:14,560
Speaker 1: can factor in in some sub packages and give you

1837
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:17,600
Speaker 1: that kind of ability as a rookie. I don't know

1838
01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 1: where you feel the corner class sits, but it seems

1839
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 1: like there could be some value had even on the

1840
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:26,599
Speaker 1: second half of round two, on day two at corner,

1841
01:41:26,640 --> 01:41:28,000
Speaker 1: I don't know where do you where do you stand

1842
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 1: on that? Yeah? I do wonder though if if for

1843
01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:35,240
Speaker 1: the reasons that you just mentioned that there's that big

1844
01:41:35,400 --> 01:41:37,519
Speaker 1: run of teams. I mean it really it's really starts

1845
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 1: up at sixteen at Arizona. Yeah, where where there's there's

1846
01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:44,160
Speaker 1: just a ton of teams that could take a corner.

1847
01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:46,800
Speaker 1: I think that we're going to see JC Horn and

1848
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:53,720
Speaker 1: certain Patrick certan And and Greg Newsome are the top

1849
01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:55,960
Speaker 1: three cornerbacks. I think that all three of those guys

1850
01:41:56,080 --> 01:42:03,120
Speaker 1: go within the first sixteen picks. And then I wonder

1851
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:04,840
Speaker 1: if some of those guys that we think might go

1852
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:07,240
Speaker 1: in the second round actually might get sucked up into

1853
01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:09,920
Speaker 1: the back end of the first down first round, like

1854
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 1: the two Georgia cornerbacks Tyson Campbell and Eric Stokes. Those

1855
01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:18,240
Speaker 1: guys have gotten actually some late first round buzz recently

1856
01:42:19,240 --> 01:42:22,840
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah, who's probably the best mock drafter in the

1857
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:25,720
Speaker 1: business in terms of accuracy year over year. I mean,

1858
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:28,479
Speaker 1: he just he's really really plugged in with guys around

1859
01:42:28,479 --> 01:42:31,639
Speaker 1: the NFL, and he truly is an accurate mock drafter,

1860
01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:34,280
Speaker 1: you know, for as much as that's worth. I mean,

1861
01:42:35,120 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 1: an accurate mock draft is getting like eleven or twelve

1862
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:40,599
Speaker 1: of the picks right, and that's like a thirty three

1863
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:43,800
Speaker 1: percent hit rate. But still he's one of the best

1864
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:46,639
Speaker 1: out there. He had Tyson Campbell, who who very few

1865
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:49,080
Speaker 1: people have talked about in the back end of the

1866
01:42:49,120 --> 01:42:52,200
Speaker 1: first round, and Tom Pallisero from NFL Network, one of

1867
01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:56,040
Speaker 1: the better reporters out there, also identified Tyson Campbell as

1868
01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:59,680
Speaker 1: a guy that could sneak into the first round. So

1869
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 1: and then Eric Stokes, his teammate at Georgia plus size

1870
01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:07,960
Speaker 1: six one ninety four, ran like four to seven at

1871
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:11,080
Speaker 1: his prot at four picks and nine games at Georgia,

1872
01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:15,160
Speaker 1: you know, played against SEC competition. His PF grades are

1873
01:43:15,200 --> 01:43:19,559
Speaker 1: good for whatever that's worth. And I think he could

1874
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:21,360
Speaker 1: go in the first round too. Yeah. He was actually

1875
01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:23,320
Speaker 1: ten minutes ago on this show my pick for the

1876
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:25,840
Speaker 1: Bills at thirty because I'm worried there's gonna be that run.

1877
01:43:26,479 --> 01:43:28,559
Speaker 1: And I think Stokes, you know, if you and Brandon

1878
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:30,840
Speaker 1: Bean said it a week or so ago, he said,

1879
01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:32,800
Speaker 1: we're picking at thirty. We're practically picking in the second

1880
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:35,040
Speaker 1: round anyway. So I wonder if the value is good

1881
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:37,200
Speaker 1: enough for Stokes where they say, well, the runs happen,

1882
01:43:37,360 --> 01:43:39,360
Speaker 1: but we like this kid. I'm not going to trade

1883
01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:40,840
Speaker 1: back and hope to get him. Let me just take

1884
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:45,840
Speaker 1: him here. And I the thing I love is thirty

1885
01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:48,760
Speaker 1: eight and a half percent completion percentage against this kid.

1886
01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:51,080
Speaker 1: I mean they threw at him in Tyson Campbell a

1887
01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:54,360
Speaker 1: lot in your mock draft of it, like two weeks ago,

1888
01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:57,120
Speaker 1: about two weeks ago, fourteen, Yeah, April fourteenth, you had

1889
01:43:57,320 --> 01:43:59,799
Speaker 1: you know, you had five I was actually six corners

1890
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:01,720
Speaker 1: in the first round. The last one would have been

1891
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:04,639
Speaker 1: Asante Samuel to the Bills. What do you think about

1892
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:07,680
Speaker 1: the kind of the wild card of Caleb Farley, guy,

1893
01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:10,800
Speaker 1: two back surgeries since the last time he played football. Um,

1894
01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:16,280
Speaker 1: but he's elite if he can play. And you know,

1895
01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:18,000
Speaker 1: so you've got and you've got him up there with

1896
01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:21,160
Speaker 1: Greg Newsom and you know, and uh Patrick certain and

1897
01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:23,400
Speaker 1: and and the rest. So what do you think about

1898
01:44:23,479 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 1: Caleb Farley now a couple of weeks later, Yeah, you know,

1899
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:32,640
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know what to think, Like, you know,

1900
01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:37,360
Speaker 1: from you know the fact that he's gotten COVID twice now,

1901
01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:41,360
Speaker 1: but I wonder if that could like work against him

1902
01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:46,320
Speaker 1: in some way. He's got two back surgeries that neither

1903
01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:50,040
Speaker 1: of them are like considered serious back surgeries. But man,

1904
01:44:50,160 --> 01:44:53,439
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, back injuries. I did a show

1905
01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:57,680
Speaker 1: with Ross Tucker for five years, and anytime that a

1906
01:44:57,800 --> 01:45:00,320
Speaker 1: player would come up as having a back end injury,

1907
01:45:00,760 --> 01:45:04,559
Speaker 1: it didn't matter what position they played. Ross would be like, oh, man,

1908
01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:07,519
Speaker 1: you know, back injuries are the worst. And then I

1909
01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:10,240
Speaker 1: recently had a back injury and like I couldn't get

1910
01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:13,240
Speaker 1: out of bed for four days. Yeah, and you know,

1911
01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:15,800
Speaker 1: and and and for a cornerback, I mean, they're like,

1912
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:17,800
Speaker 1: you know, bending at their waist all the time and

1913
01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 1: back pedaling. So that's a scary injury. At the same time,

1914
01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:24,680
Speaker 1: I've heard that there are teams in the back end

1915
01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:27,280
Speaker 1: of the first round that are okay with his health,

1916
01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:30,800
Speaker 1: and the Saints being one of them. And now We've

1917
01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:32,840
Speaker 1: got rumors of the Saints though, trying to trade up

1918
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:36,519
Speaker 1: into the top ten to get a cornerback. But I've

1919
01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 1: heard that they really like Caleb Farley. So that's where

1920
01:45:39,080 --> 01:45:41,639
Speaker 1: I put Caleb Farley in my mock draft at number

1921
01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:44,120
Speaker 1: twenty eight to the Saints. But there's no question that

1922
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:47,719
Speaker 1: this dude, Caleb Farley, is a wild card and he's

1923
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:50,559
Speaker 1: really tough to pag in terms of his draft position

1924
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:53,479
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, the reason Ross feels that way is

1925
01:45:53,479 --> 01:45:56,080
Speaker 1: because Ross had back back problems too, when it's why

1926
01:45:56,120 --> 01:45:58,599
Speaker 1: he didn't last much longer in the league. He had

1927
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:03,160
Speaker 1: tons of back problems, So his concerns are well founded.

1928
01:46:04,479 --> 01:46:09,280
Speaker 1: Offensive Line, Evan is an area where Steve and I

1929
01:46:09,479 --> 01:46:12,439
Speaker 1: kind of feel they need a swing tackle. They really

1930
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 1: don't have one right now behind Darryl Williams and Dion Dawkins,

1931
01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:19,439
Speaker 1: the starters. Ty and Secki is in Dallas now. And

1932
01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:25,000
Speaker 1: interior wise, there's a general thought that Mitch Morse and

1933
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:28,320
Speaker 1: his contract size, which already he decided to agree to

1934
01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:31,000
Speaker 1: take a pay cut this year, his salary may be

1935
01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:34,160
Speaker 1: cost prohibitive. Knowing the contract they're gonna have to hand

1936
01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:37,439
Speaker 1: Josh Allen going into next year and maybe even Tremaine Edmonds,

1937
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:41,840
Speaker 1: two guys from the twenty eighteen draft. So people are thinking, Okay,

1938
01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:44,880
Speaker 1: they got to replenish there as well. I know the

1939
01:46:45,000 --> 01:46:47,760
Speaker 1: tackle class is considered to be pretty deep. What are

1940
01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:51,680
Speaker 1: your thoughts on interior? Oh, line, because I think if

1941
01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:55,599
Speaker 1: the cupboards bear at thirty, Evan at corner and edge rusher,

1942
01:46:55,720 --> 01:46:58,759
Speaker 1: I don't know if we can rule out offensive line

1943
01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:00,960
Speaker 1: there for the Bills at thirty, like a Creed Humphrey

1944
01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:08,160
Speaker 1: type is a guy that we've brought up here. Oh yeah,

1945
01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:11,040
Speaker 1: Free is a guy that has generated some back end

1946
01:47:11,240 --> 01:47:16,479
Speaker 1: first round first round buzz um. I wonder if, like

1947
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:19,519
Speaker 1: Landon Dickerson, if I don't think he goes in the

1948
01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:22,840
Speaker 1: first round because of his injury history, but maybe a

1949
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:26,360
Speaker 1: guy with number sixty one could could? I mean, I

1950
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:30,759
Speaker 1: think he'd be an awesome value pick there. He's although

1951
01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:32,880
Speaker 1: he's like people think that there's gonna be like a

1952
01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:35,160
Speaker 1: limit on how how long he lasts in the league.

1953
01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:37,879
Speaker 1: Like I think that he's gonna be a high impact

1954
01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:42,000
Speaker 1: blocker for four or five years in the NFL. I mean,

1955
01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:44,479
Speaker 1: and if you've seen like Brian Balding or doing the

1956
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:46,640
Speaker 1: cut ups and the and and the tape reviews on

1957
01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:49,680
Speaker 1: Landon Dickerson like this dude is is a maler and

1958
01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:52,880
Speaker 1: a brawler and he's gonna be a winning player for

1959
01:47:53,040 --> 01:47:56,400
Speaker 1: as long as he lasts. Yeah. That and that's an

1960
01:47:56,680 --> 01:48:00,360
Speaker 1: availability and ability to compete. Um, if you get a

1961
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:03,160
Speaker 1: good five year run out of an offensive lineman, I

1962
01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:06,160
Speaker 1: think that's that's got to be worth it. How deep

1963
01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:09,439
Speaker 1: does this offensive line depth go in in this draft,

1964
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:12,479
Speaker 1: not only at the offensive tackle position, but also center guard.

1965
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:18,560
Speaker 1: I feel like it's pretty good. I think that the

1966
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:22,360
Speaker 1: center guards are I mean, unless you're gonna consider Elijah

1967
01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:26,400
Speaker 1: vera Tucker uh like Solia guard, which I think he

1968
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:29,760
Speaker 1: might end up playing right tackle in the league. Um,

1969
01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:35,040
Speaker 1: the guard center position I think is pretty good, but

1970
01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:37,040
Speaker 1: it's it's not going to go in the first round,

1971
01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:38,439
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think many of the guys

1972
01:48:38,479 --> 01:48:40,760
Speaker 1: are going to go in the first round. Um. And

1973
01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:44,200
Speaker 1: then the tackle position, I mean, just because it's so valued,

1974
01:48:44,280 --> 01:48:46,479
Speaker 1: you know, I think that guys like Tevin Jenkins out

1975
01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:49,920
Speaker 1: of Oklahoma State might go a little bit earlier than

1976
01:48:50,360 --> 01:48:54,320
Speaker 1: they then they warrant as a right tackle only. UM,

1977
01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:58,240
Speaker 1: So I think that the tackles get get pushed up

1978
01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:00,760
Speaker 1: a little bit and then you you can get some

1979
01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:03,720
Speaker 1: good garden town in rounds two through four. Now, I

1980
01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:06,760
Speaker 1: think that the drafts as an entity, you know, in

1981
01:49:06,880 --> 01:49:12,120
Speaker 1: its entirety is really thin. And you know, if if I,

1982
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:14,120
Speaker 1: if I was like a GM, I'd be trying to

1983
01:49:14,200 --> 01:49:17,960
Speaker 1: trade the Bills two fives, they're six, they're seven, to

1984
01:49:18,160 --> 01:49:21,320
Speaker 1: move up, you know, maybe for a four or for

1985
01:49:21,439 --> 01:49:24,519
Speaker 1: a late three or um or trying to trade those

1986
01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:27,200
Speaker 1: picks into next year's draft. Although I think that that

1987
01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:30,640
Speaker 1: might be what everyone is trying to do. Yeah, so

1988
01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:34,840
Speaker 1: then you get sort of a watered down market. We've

1989
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:37,240
Speaker 1: got some question marks here at the top of the

1990
01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:41,200
Speaker 1: board in round one even and people are curious to know.

1991
01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:43,400
Speaker 1: And obviously Bills fans are keeping an eye on the

1992
01:49:43,479 --> 01:49:45,559
Speaker 1: rest of the AFC East with all the draft capital

1993
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:47,960
Speaker 1: they have in front of them. But for the Patriots,

1994
01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:51,439
Speaker 1: it looks like a quarterback or bust type draft and

1995
01:49:51,560 --> 01:49:53,800
Speaker 1: they sit there at fifteen and then they only have

1996
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:56,439
Speaker 1: their other pick at forty six before they have a

1997
01:49:56,560 --> 01:50:01,160
Speaker 1: cluster of third rounders to work with. So Stefan Gilmour

1998
01:50:01,200 --> 01:50:04,160
Speaker 1: has been mentioned in the trade rumors. How high do

1999
01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:08,360
Speaker 1: you think the Patriots try to go to get a quarterback,

2000
01:50:08,439 --> 01:50:11,519
Speaker 1: assuming of course that Atlanta passes on a QB and

2001
01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:15,200
Speaker 1: then we're pretty confident in Cincinnati and Miami will both pass.

2002
01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:18,120
Speaker 1: So now you're down to seven eight nine. But Denver

2003
01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:20,080
Speaker 1: could still be in the market, even though they traded

2004
01:50:20,120 --> 01:50:22,400
Speaker 1: for Teddy Bridgewater. So how do you see that jockey

2005
01:50:22,479 --> 01:50:26,120
Speaker 1: and going maybe between New England and Denver chief among

2006
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:28,080
Speaker 1: the teams that could be on the hunt for the

2007
01:50:28,120 --> 01:50:31,439
Speaker 1: fourth or fifth quarterback on the board. Well, I don't

2008
01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:33,080
Speaker 1: think that New England is going to try to go

2009
01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:35,439
Speaker 1: up and get a quarterback. I'm not buying that. I

2010
01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:39,519
Speaker 1: think that they are that they're gonna trade for Jimmy Garoppolo,

2011
01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:43,599
Speaker 1: and they're gonna get him on the cheap, and they're

2012
01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:47,920
Speaker 1: gonna get him probably for like a Day three pick.

2013
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:50,680
Speaker 1: I do not think that they have interest in going

2014
01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:53,840
Speaker 1: up for Justin Fields. I think that that is just

2015
01:50:53,960 --> 01:50:56,439
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, a bunch of media scuttle butt,

2016
01:50:56,960 --> 01:51:02,280
Speaker 1: you know, it gets the clicks, and Denver and Carolina

2017
01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:05,280
Speaker 1: and Detroit that is sort of the sweet spot for

2018
01:51:05,439 --> 01:51:08,760
Speaker 1: Justin Fields and Denver in particular, although they did just

2019
01:51:08,840 --> 01:51:10,840
Speaker 1: trade for Teddy Bridgewater. I think that we know by

2020
01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:13,479
Speaker 1: now that Teddy Bridgewater is not any kind of a

2021
01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:17,720
Speaker 1: long term solution that he can He's he's, you know,

2022
01:51:18,280 --> 01:51:22,760
Speaker 1: purely no pun intended to a bridge quarterback, and that

2023
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:25,479
Speaker 1: they he's only under contract for one year, and they

2024
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:27,400
Speaker 1: know that Drew Lock is not the guy. Drew Lock

2025
01:51:27,479 --> 01:51:30,559
Speaker 1: does not factor into this decision at all. And then

2026
01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:35,040
Speaker 1: but and I think I think that the most interesting

2027
01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:39,640
Speaker 1: possibility would be here Denver trading from number nine to

2028
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:43,360
Speaker 1: number seven with Detroit. Detroit needs draft picks, like they

2029
01:51:43,680 --> 01:51:47,160
Speaker 1: they're full scale rebuild. I mean, they've gotten nothing on

2030
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:51,000
Speaker 1: their team and they've got some decent offensive lineman, like

2031
01:51:51,080 --> 01:51:55,200
Speaker 1: that's about it. And then the rookie Jeff Okuda, the

2032
01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:57,400
Speaker 1: corner who really didn't have a very good rookie season,

2033
01:51:57,840 --> 01:52:02,080
Speaker 1: So they moved back from vnto nine. Bronchos jump over

2034
01:52:02,160 --> 01:52:05,080
Speaker 1: the Panthers, who are you know, somewhat of a threat

2035
01:52:05,120 --> 01:52:08,679
Speaker 1: to take a quarterback. Broncos take Justin Fields at seven

2036
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:11,920
Speaker 1: at number nine, the Broncos pick up an extra pick

2037
01:52:12,040 --> 01:52:14,160
Speaker 1: or two, or the Lions pick up an extra pick

2038
01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:17,080
Speaker 1: or two for their rebuild. They maybe take Trey Lance

2039
01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:20,479
Speaker 1: at number nine to jump start their rebuild, but they

2040
01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:23,240
Speaker 1: get those extra picks and the Broncos get their quarterback

2041
01:52:23,280 --> 01:52:27,120
Speaker 1: of the future. Where does the draft start? Brownie and

2042
01:52:27,160 --> 01:52:30,080
Speaker 1: I have thought it starts to certainly the forty nine

2043
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:34,280
Speaker 1: is going to take a quarterback, and whether it's justin fields,

2044
01:52:34,640 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 1: Trey Lance, mac Jones, you know, two of those three

2045
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:40,320
Speaker 1: guys are still going to be on the board when

2046
01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:42,800
Speaker 1: Atlanta comes up at number four, And for us, I

2047
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:46,000
Speaker 1: think number four Atlanta is where the draft starts entirely.

2048
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:50,880
Speaker 1: What does Atlanta do at number four? Yeah, I think

2049
01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:53,960
Speaker 1: that the draft those starts at number three, especially since

2050
01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:55,280
Speaker 1: and I know you guys have been doing the show.

2051
01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:56,640
Speaker 1: I don't know how close you guys have been, like

2052
01:52:56,680 --> 01:52:59,439
Speaker 1: paying attention to Twitter and stuff, and the betting markets

2053
01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:02,599
Speaker 1: are you know and there. I don't want to say

2054
01:53:02,640 --> 01:53:06,719
Speaker 1: that they're reliable, okay, um, but but it does create

2055
01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:09,760
Speaker 1: intrigue and all of a sudden, Trey Lance is the

2056
01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:15,160
Speaker 1: betting favorite and the prop draft market, uh to the

2057
01:53:15,439 --> 01:53:18,400
Speaker 1: prop bet market to be to be the third overall pick.

2058
01:53:18,640 --> 01:53:21,280
Speaker 1: Right now as we speak, Trey Lance jumped Mac Jones

2059
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:25,720
Speaker 1: to be the favorite at at the third overall pick. Now,

2060
01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:28,880
Speaker 1: by the time that the draft actually starts tonight, It'll

2061
01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:31,679
Speaker 1: probably be Mac Jones back as the as the favorite.

2062
01:53:31,720 --> 01:53:34,160
Speaker 1: That's how these things kind of go, you know. But

2063
01:53:34,360 --> 01:53:36,479
Speaker 1: but I would say it the draft starts at number

2064
01:53:36,520 --> 01:53:41,680
Speaker 1: three as we sit here speaking and um, and then

2065
01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:44,479
Speaker 1: so whoever. I mean, hey, if the forty nine ers

2066
01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:48,920
Speaker 1: throw us a curveball and take Trey Lance, then I mean,

2067
01:53:49,400 --> 01:53:51,679
Speaker 1: then things start to get real, really interesting. But let's

2068
01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:53,800
Speaker 1: let's say that they just take Mac Jones like we

2069
01:53:54,160 --> 01:53:57,320
Speaker 1: we probably all still expect despite this movement in the

2070
01:53:57,800 --> 01:54:02,320
Speaker 1: betting markets. I think Kyle Pitts goes number four to Atlanta,

2071
01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:05,160
Speaker 1: and then I think the draft starts to get really

2072
01:54:05,200 --> 01:54:07,439
Speaker 1: interesting because for a while there, Jamar Chase was the

2073
01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:11,280
Speaker 1: heavy favorite to be the number five overall pick to Cincinnati,

2074
01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:17,080
Speaker 1: But lately Daniel Jeremiah had Penny Sewell in at number

2075
01:54:17,120 --> 01:54:20,200
Speaker 1: five in his mock. Peter Schrager had Penny Suel number

2076
01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:24,559
Speaker 1: five in his mock. Mike Lombardi predicted that the Bengals

2077
01:54:24,560 --> 01:54:27,280
Speaker 1: would take Penny Sewell and then Jamar Chase falls to

2078
01:54:27,280 --> 01:54:31,120
Speaker 1: the Dolphins at number six. And then and then we're

2079
01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:35,080
Speaker 1: into that little, you know, three team window of guys

2080
01:54:35,160 --> 01:54:37,800
Speaker 1: that could take Justin fields. I mean, we've got a

2081
01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:40,280
Speaker 1: lot of room for intrigue here. Still, I don't think

2082
01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 1: that anything is really set in stone after one and two.

2083
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:46,360
Speaker 1: How many trades do you anticipate, both in the top

2084
01:54:46,440 --> 01:54:49,160
Speaker 1: ten and then maybe in the bottom there ten of

2085
01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:52,080
Speaker 1: the first round? Man, that's just so hard to say.

2086
01:54:52,160 --> 01:54:56,000
Speaker 1: I liked the idea of the Broncos Lions trade, right,

2087
01:54:56,120 --> 01:55:00,560
Speaker 1: and then after that, I just I don't know, I

2088
01:55:00,680 --> 01:55:03,640
Speaker 1: really don't know. I think maybe the Chargers, if Penny

2089
01:55:03,680 --> 01:55:07,120
Speaker 1: School gets past the Bengals, then maybe the Chargers might

2090
01:55:07,280 --> 01:55:09,560
Speaker 1: move up to try to get Penny School. You know,

2091
01:55:09,640 --> 01:55:13,520
Speaker 1: Penny School protected justin Herbert Herbert's blindside at Oregon, right,

2092
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:19,440
Speaker 1: and the Chargers are desperate for left tackle help. But yeah,

2093
01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 1: I don't know how many trades they were gonna be.

2094
01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:23,520
Speaker 1: There were way fewer trades than I thought there would

2095
01:55:23,520 --> 01:55:25,560
Speaker 1: be last year. What did we go like twelve or

2096
01:55:25,600 --> 01:55:27,680
Speaker 1: thirteen or fourteen picks without there even being a single

2097
01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:30,320
Speaker 1: trade last year? If I recall directly, I think there

2098
01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:33,280
Speaker 1: was only four total trades in round one. But here's

2099
01:55:33,280 --> 01:55:35,360
Speaker 1: an interesting thing, at least for Bills fans. In the

2100
01:55:35,480 --> 01:55:38,320
Speaker 1: last three drafts, Evan, there have been an average of

2101
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:42,000
Speaker 1: four trades between picks twenty and thirty two. It's either

2102
01:55:42,440 --> 01:55:44,520
Speaker 1: guys climbing up a little bit or people trying to

2103
01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:47,080
Speaker 1: trade back in from round two. So could be some

2104
01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:49,200
Speaker 1: action down there at the bottom half of the round,

2105
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:52,080
Speaker 1: maybe even more so than the top, depending on how

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Speaker 1: that quarterback tier falls at the top of the draft. Evan,

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Speaker 1: thanks very much for the time. Enjoy the draft tonight,

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Speaker 1: and we have appreciate the insight. All right, thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for having me guys. All right, that is the

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01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:07,680
Speaker 1: founder and writer from Established the Run dot com. You

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Speaker 1: can get his info there. He's got his final mock

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Speaker 1: draft up right now at Established the Run dot com.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's going to be interesting. And there's

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Speaker 1: some news floating around. There's talk that the Chargers may

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01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:25,640
Speaker 1: be looking to move up from their spot at thirteen

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01:56:25,760 --> 01:56:27,760
Speaker 1: to try to get one of the top two tackles

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Speaker 1: in the draft. They were initially thought to be in

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Speaker 1: a good position at thirteen to get somebody like Rashaan Slater,

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Speaker 1: assuming that Pena Suel is off the board. Now there

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Speaker 1: is talk that they prefer Sewell over Slater and realize

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Speaker 1: they have to move up to go get him, so

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Speaker 1: there's talk of the Chargers perhaps moving up the board.

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Speaker 1: Their Gmtom Talsco, moved up the board last year. As

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Speaker 1: a matter of fact, he moved up from the second

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Speaker 1: round up to the bottom of the first round to

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Speaker 1: take the linebacker Kenneth Murray made a trade up the

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Speaker 1: board back into round one to nab their middle linebacker

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Speaker 1: of the future, and he's expected to start this coming season.

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Speaker 1: There's this from Adam Schefter. He said that an NFL

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01:57:14,720 --> 01:57:18,920
Speaker 1: official said Caleb Farley tested positive for COVID twice and

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01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:21,240
Speaker 1: therefore will not be allowed to watch the draft with

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01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:23,600
Speaker 1: friends and family for the safety of all. We wish

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01:57:23,680 --> 01:57:28,120
Speaker 1: him the best of luck. There was a report earlier

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01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:32,160
Speaker 1: in the day that he retested today and was negative

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01:57:32,240 --> 01:57:34,839
Speaker 1: for COVID, but the NFL is not taking any chances.

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Speaker 1: His agent, Drew Rosenhouse, called it very encouraging. He was

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01:57:39,560 --> 01:57:42,080
Speaker 1: claiming he could watch the draft with friends and family.

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01:57:42,680 --> 01:57:47,000
Speaker 1: An NFL official is arguing otherwise, So that's going to

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01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:49,080
Speaker 1: be very interesting. I don't know if they have cameras

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01:57:49,120 --> 01:57:51,320
Speaker 1: in his home tonight. He's not going to be at

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Speaker 1: the draft. We know that, and I don't know if

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01:57:53,920 --> 01:57:59,240
Speaker 1: you saw the setup Steve for the draft prospects attending

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01:57:59,440 --> 01:58:01,920
Speaker 1: the Draft. I have not seen it so typically in

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01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:03,960
Speaker 1: the past we would see them in the green room.

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01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:07,600
Speaker 1: They'd be sitting at a round banquet table with family members,

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01:58:07,720 --> 01:58:10,240
Speaker 1: their age and stuff like that. It's kind of like

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01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:12,920
Speaker 1: a banquet setting, big round tables in a broom. Just yeah,

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01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:15,480
Speaker 1: it's different. Now, what do they got them doing. They've

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01:58:15,560 --> 01:58:20,280
Speaker 1: got like a VIP room for the player and their

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01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:23,440
Speaker 1: family members and whoever else is in the entourage for

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01:58:23,640 --> 01:58:26,200
Speaker 1: each of the players. Because there's only thirteen of them

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01:58:26,280 --> 01:58:28,600
Speaker 1: that are going to be on site tonight, they went

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01:58:28,680 --> 01:58:32,440
Speaker 1: all out so and they tweeted it out. Brian McCarthy,

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01:58:32,480 --> 01:58:35,960
Speaker 1: the head of NFLPR, tweeted it out earlier today, and

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01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:40,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you want to talk plush, Steve, We're like

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01:58:40,200 --> 01:58:44,480
Speaker 1: talking velvet couches. And that is not by mistake. This

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01:58:44,760 --> 01:58:46,880
Speaker 1: is not by mistakes, Steve and our MSG viewers are

2158
01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:49,120
Speaker 1: getting to look at it now. This is not by mistake.

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01:58:49,280 --> 01:58:51,160
Speaker 1: This is being put out on social media by the

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01:58:51,320 --> 01:58:54,600
Speaker 1: NFL to let draft prospects of the future know, Hey,

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01:58:55,880 --> 01:58:58,160
Speaker 1: you want to come to the Draft, We'll set you up.

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01:58:58,480 --> 01:59:01,280
Speaker 1: You're gonna look good. A bottle of champagne on ice

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01:59:01,400 --> 01:59:04,200
Speaker 1: for all we know. But I mean that's for a

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01:59:04,400 --> 01:59:08,800
Speaker 1: temporary setup. That's pretty posh. It's better than a green

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01:59:08,880 --> 01:59:12,000
Speaker 1: room with a round banquet table and folding chairs. Expect

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01:59:12,120 --> 01:59:15,040
Speaker 1: nothing less because they have to be separated, you know,

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01:59:15,120 --> 01:59:19,440
Speaker 1: physically distanced anyway. And each player probably has what they

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01:59:19,480 --> 01:59:22,320
Speaker 1: say they can bring two people with them. I believe

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01:59:22,400 --> 01:59:24,440
Speaker 1: that's correct. It's not very many people, and they got

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Speaker 1: a big this big room for all those mom what

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01:59:26,520 --> 01:59:29,880
Speaker 1: do you know, I don't know, I get it, but

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01:59:30,960 --> 01:59:34,320
Speaker 1: let me just say this. We would all expect anything

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01:59:34,400 --> 01:59:36,040
Speaker 1: of this nature that the NFL is going to do

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01:59:36,160 --> 01:59:41,080
Speaker 1: to be absolutely top shelf. Yeah, top shelf, first class,

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01:59:41,720 --> 01:59:46,560
Speaker 1: name your adjective. It should be five star every step

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01:59:46,640 --> 01:59:49,800
Speaker 1: of the way. And it looks like they've made every

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Speaker 1: effort to do that in Cleveland. Good for them. Our

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01:59:52,480 --> 01:59:55,800
Speaker 1: good friend Diana Rassini from ESPN is tweeting that she

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Speaker 1: was told Saints GM Mickey Loomis is working the phone

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01:59:58,680 --> 02:00:01,400
Speaker 1: trying to trade up to the top ten. She's not

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02:00:01,480 --> 02:00:05,040
Speaker 1: the first person to report that, however, She adds to

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Speaker 1: that by saying the primary reason isn't for a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: it's actually for another position, although she does not know

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Speaker 1: what that position is. She said there is one QB

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Speaker 1: not named Trevor who would change their minds if he

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02:00:18,360 --> 02:00:22,280
Speaker 1: was still available. So they're not looking to move into

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Speaker 1: the top ten for a quarterback per se, but if

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Speaker 1: one of the top four or five are there, that

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02:00:29,360 --> 02:00:32,280
Speaker 1: might change their mind. I wonder who they're trying to

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02:00:32,400 --> 02:00:37,640
Speaker 1: go up and get in the top ten, because maybe

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02:00:37,680 --> 02:00:40,400
Speaker 1: a weapon to pair with Michael Thomas. Like, what are

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Speaker 1: you looking for there? If you're the Saints, Yeah, maybe

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02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:45,920
Speaker 1: you're looking for the best corner in the draft. You

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02:00:46,000 --> 02:00:48,360
Speaker 1: have Marshawn Lattimore and then you have Patrick Sir Tan

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Speaker 1: on the other side. Man, that'd be good. Yeah, they maybe.

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Speaker 1: I think the draft is gonna start to get a

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Speaker 1: little dicey, like we just heard right around number seven,

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02:01:03,400 --> 02:01:06,280
Speaker 1: eight and nine is when things will start to change.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know that. I don't even put

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Speaker 1: it past Jerry Jones in Dallas to move move from

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Speaker 1: ten up or down. Yeah, he said he doesn't. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna probably stay right there unless they're bowled over with

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02:01:17,240 --> 02:01:19,600
Speaker 1: an offer and they'll slide back. They need so much

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02:01:19,640 --> 02:01:21,920
Speaker 1: help on defense at ten, you've got a chance to

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02:01:21,960 --> 02:01:24,640
Speaker 1: get the best corner in the draft. Patrick, I think

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02:01:24,640 --> 02:01:27,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna get Pat Surtan, right, who would be paired

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02:01:27,840 --> 02:01:33,240
Speaker 1: with his former teammate at Alabama, Stefon Digg's brother, Treylon Dick.

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02:01:33,320 --> 02:01:35,680
Speaker 1: So you know that that would not be a bad

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Speaker 1: bookend corner tandem to have down there to try to

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Speaker 1: cover people up and keep teams from But I think

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02:01:40,520 --> 02:01:42,880
Speaker 1: it's gonna running up thirty forty points on him every week.

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02:01:42,960 --> 02:01:44,960
Speaker 1: The deeper we get into it, the more and more

2213
02:01:45,000 --> 02:01:47,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna, you know, shipped out as to which team

2214
02:01:47,640 --> 02:01:49,600
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a run on. I'm with him, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think at some point you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get a couple of these corners, like consecutive picks. Yeah,

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02:01:55,120 --> 02:01:57,320
Speaker 1: and uh, that's my worry. That's when it takes a

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Speaker 1: big chunk out of that top five. Yeah. I just

2219
02:01:59,720 --> 02:02:02,440
Speaker 1: hope Stokes is sitting down there and nobody's touched him yet.

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Speaker 1: We have to take a break. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get some of your thoughts on the tweet sheet.

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02:02:06,400 --> 02:02:07,720
Speaker 1: We were taking a lot of phone calls in the

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02:02:07,760 --> 02:02:09,160
Speaker 1: first half of the show time to get to the

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02:02:09,200 --> 02:02:11,240
Speaker 1: tweet sheet to get you your thoughts on who you

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02:02:11,320 --> 02:02:13,520
Speaker 1: got for the Bills at thirty and we're also going

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02:02:13,560 --> 02:02:16,560
Speaker 1: to rattle off a few names of prospects who could

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02:02:16,600 --> 02:02:21,440
Speaker 1: be picked a little bit earlier than originally anticipated. Some

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Speaker 1: familiar names there will get to them when we return

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Speaker 1: here on one Bill's Live presenter Bike a Lot of Health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. A reminder for you that our

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Speaker 1: draft coverage continues tonight with our Bills Draft special. Maddi

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Speaker 1: Glaban myself will be on all of the Buffalo Bills

2233
02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:51,880
Speaker 1: streaming platforms on Buffalo bills dot Com, Twitter, and the

2234
02:02:51,960 --> 02:02:55,840
Speaker 1: Bills Facebook page at seven thirty PM, as we'll have

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02:02:56,000 --> 02:02:58,560
Speaker 1: GM Brandon being joined us as well as Executive director

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02:02:58,560 --> 02:03:00,840
Speaker 1: of the Senior Bull Jim Nagy to help us get

2237
02:03:00,880 --> 02:03:03,000
Speaker 1: you ready for round one tonight. We'll take you right

2238
02:03:03,120 --> 02:03:05,200
Speaker 1: up until the start of the draft at eight PM,

2239
02:03:05,240 --> 02:03:08,120
Speaker 1: when you can switch over at that time to ABC,

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02:03:08,480 --> 02:03:10,880
Speaker 1: ESPN and NFL Network, and then we'll be back on

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02:03:11,560 --> 02:03:14,720
Speaker 1: right after the Bills pick with reaction and have NFL

2242
02:03:14,800 --> 02:03:18,200
Speaker 1: films Great co Sell break down the player from top

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Speaker 1: to bottom, and then we'll do the same on Friday

2244
02:03:20,840 --> 02:03:23,760
Speaker 1: night for Round two and three. The Bills Draft special

2245
02:03:23,840 --> 02:03:26,320
Speaker 1: streaming on Twitter, the Bills Facebook page, and on Buffalo

2246
02:03:26,360 --> 02:03:28,760
Speaker 1: bills dot Com tonight at seven thirty and then again

2247
02:03:28,800 --> 02:03:31,160
Speaker 1: after the Bills pick in round one, and of course

2248
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Speaker 1: Friday at noon. Steve and I will be right back

2249
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Speaker 1: here in these chairs to break down Round one of

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Speaker 1: the draft and prep you four rounds two and three

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Speaker 1: on Day two. Steve, there are some names that are

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02:03:47,560 --> 02:03:52,480
Speaker 1: being listed by some of the NFL national reporters as

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02:03:52,640 --> 02:03:58,600
Speaker 1: guys that could be drafted earlier then anticipated. One of them,

2254
02:03:58,680 --> 02:04:01,560
Speaker 1: you'll be happy to know is Oklahoma center Creed Humphrey,

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Speaker 1: who we've mentioned as a possible late first round pick

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02:04:04,800 --> 02:04:06,440
Speaker 1: that could be an option for the Bills if the

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02:04:06,520 --> 02:04:09,440
Speaker 1: cupboards bear at corner and edge rusher. There are some

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02:04:09,520 --> 02:04:13,560
Speaker 1: other names. Northern Iowa offensive lineman Spencer Brown, who wowed

2259
02:04:13,640 --> 02:04:17,360
Speaker 1: people at the Senior Bowl. He is moving up boards.

2260
02:04:17,680 --> 02:04:21,240
Speaker 1: Oregon safety Javon Holland, who I like a lot. I

2261
02:04:21,280 --> 02:04:24,160
Speaker 1: think he's a very versatile player. I actually like him

2262
02:04:24,160 --> 02:04:26,520
Speaker 1: a little bit better than the TCU safety who many

2263
02:04:26,560 --> 02:04:28,080
Speaker 1: people have at the top of the class at the

2264
02:04:28,120 --> 02:04:32,280
Speaker 1: safety position, Trevan Merrig. Holland I like even better than him.

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02:04:32,840 --> 02:04:36,840
Speaker 1: And then Notre Dame offensive tackle Liam Eichenberg, largely seen

2266
02:04:36,880 --> 02:04:42,160
Speaker 1: as a right tackle. Not super athletic, but long assignment sound,

2267
02:04:42,280 --> 02:04:44,640
Speaker 1: more of a technician, and pretty good in the run

2268
02:04:44,760 --> 02:04:47,360
Speaker 1: game as well. They're expecting him to go higher. And

2269
02:04:47,400 --> 02:04:51,200
Speaker 1: then there's Auburn wide receiver Anthony Schwartz, who's a Blazer.

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02:04:52,000 --> 02:04:54,800
Speaker 1: I can't remember his forty time off the top of

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02:04:54,880 --> 02:04:56,680
Speaker 1: my head, but let me see if I can find it.

2272
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Speaker 1: And then those are some the names that NFL Networks

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Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport listed I saw early on in our process,

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Speaker 1: you know, early on, I say, a month ago. Ian,

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Speaker 1: this Liam Eichenberg was mocked to the Bills at thirty yeah,

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02:05:14,800 --> 02:05:17,920
Speaker 1: on a multiple mock dress and then he disappeared for

2277
02:05:18,040 --> 02:05:22,560
Speaker 1: some reason. I don't know why. But he's like, he's

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02:05:22,600 --> 02:05:25,240
Speaker 1: one of these six eight three fifteen guys, you know,

2279
02:05:25,400 --> 02:05:29,640
Speaker 1: real tall, richie guy. But he was on the radar

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02:05:29,720 --> 02:05:33,320
Speaker 1: for the Bills at thirty a month ago. Two. Anthony Schwartz,

2281
02:05:34,280 --> 02:05:38,640
Speaker 1: who was a receiver at Auburn six feet one hundred

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02:05:38,680 --> 02:05:44,200
Speaker 1: and eighty six pounds, ran a four two five. That

2283
02:05:45,040 --> 02:05:48,600
Speaker 1: is moving. It's pretty fast. It seems fast to me,

2284
02:05:50,560 --> 02:05:54,720
Speaker 1: four two five. How big is he? He's six foote

2285
02:05:54,920 --> 02:05:59,560
Speaker 1: eighty six. Really, he's largely seen as a fourth round pick.

2286
02:06:00,760 --> 02:06:03,240
Speaker 1: Had pretty good hands in terms of size, nine and

2287
02:06:03,360 --> 02:06:06,200
Speaker 1: three eight inches thirty one and a half inch arms.

2288
02:06:06,280 --> 02:06:12,440
Speaker 1: That's a little short, but yeah, it's interesting. It seems

2289
02:06:12,520 --> 02:06:15,560
Speaker 1: like Auburn Steve over the last several years seems to

2290
02:06:15,600 --> 02:06:20,640
Speaker 1: get these athletic or physical measurable type players, but they're

2291
02:06:20,680 --> 02:06:23,520
Speaker 1: not very refined when they get to the league. Duke

2292
02:06:23,560 --> 02:06:27,960
Speaker 1: Williams is an example of that, and there have been

2293
02:06:28,000 --> 02:06:32,120
Speaker 1: others in recent years. Although DK Metcalf hit the ground

2294
02:06:32,200 --> 02:06:35,839
Speaker 1: running as did A. J. Brown, those guys, but elite

2295
02:06:36,040 --> 02:06:39,640
Speaker 1: physical measurables for those guys. Anthony Schwartz doesn't check quite

2296
02:06:39,680 --> 02:06:43,160
Speaker 1: as many boxes as those two studs do at six six,

2297
02:06:43,200 --> 02:06:45,320
Speaker 1: but he certainly does in the speed department. My goodness,

2298
02:06:45,400 --> 02:06:49,000
Speaker 1: four to five that jumps that. That, more so than anything,

2299
02:06:49,080 --> 02:06:51,040
Speaker 1: is the one quality that will get you, that will

2300
02:06:51,080 --> 02:06:53,840
Speaker 1: turn heads no matter how big or small you are,

2301
02:06:55,000 --> 02:06:57,040
Speaker 1: and you know the bigger you are and you run

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Speaker 1: those things, it's angible rounds up the board that you'll go, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what is at six one? That's that's big? What is

2304
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Speaker 1: the miles per hour? Once you start getting into the

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Speaker 1: four two fives, Like, what is top speed? Are you

2306
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Speaker 1: talking eighteen nineteen miles per hour? Twenty one? Tyreek Hill

2307
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Speaker 1: ran what twenty one something last year the forty yard dash.

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02:07:21,120 --> 02:07:23,520
Speaker 1: These guys are running the forty yard dash in about

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Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty steps. Yeah, and so when you get

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Speaker 1: out there, you'll see guys starting to run it in

2311
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Speaker 1: eighteen or seventeen and a half, you know that kind

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Speaker 1: of thing. That's that's the way I count it. Those

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Speaker 1: guys get out and they started and that's why these big,

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Speaker 1: tall guys who can run fat, they do it in

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02:07:43,840 --> 02:07:47,360
Speaker 1: fewer steps because they just cover more ground with longer legs,

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Speaker 1: taller bodies. But it's you're getting out of the four

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Speaker 1: four twos. I mean, it was unheard of in my

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02:07:54,880 --> 02:07:56,360
Speaker 1: in the day and age in which I came out.

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Speaker 1: And this was hand time, which are always faster than

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Speaker 1: electrically timed. Nobody was getting near four three, let alone

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Speaker 1: a four two. You couldn't get nearer four three. You

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02:08:10,400 --> 02:08:14,960
Speaker 1: couldn't get near it, especially electronically timed. Willie Galt might

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02:08:15,000 --> 02:08:20,520
Speaker 1: have been an exception. Olympic. Yeah, those were the only

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Speaker 1: guys running that. Yeah, I get you. Yeah, yeah, those really,

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Speaker 1: those are the only absolutely running those times. Then you

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Speaker 1: get Dion. He popped out and he snapped one off early,

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02:08:29,320 --> 02:08:32,000
Speaker 1: and he was a special athlete. You never really saw

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02:08:32,120 --> 02:08:35,240
Speaker 1: Bo Jackson run of forty, but that guy could explode.

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02:08:36,120 --> 02:08:39,440
Speaker 1: He had some legs like tree trunks, had unbelievable explosion.

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02:08:39,920 --> 02:08:44,480
Speaker 1: So but he was two hundred and thirty five pounds.

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02:08:45,760 --> 02:08:47,880
Speaker 1: You got and I said this earlier, and I started

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02:08:47,920 --> 02:08:49,520
Speaker 1: this earlier. On the front. You got guys running after

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02:08:49,560 --> 02:08:51,760
Speaker 1: the every kid running after the ice cream trucks, running

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02:08:51,760 --> 02:08:56,720
Speaker 1: a four three these days, they're they're coming. If they're

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02:08:56,760 --> 02:08:59,560
Speaker 1: everybody's doing it, I don't know how does that happen? Yeah,

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02:09:00,080 --> 02:09:02,720
Speaker 1: something in the water. Maybe maybe it's in the ice cream.

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02:09:02,760 --> 02:09:04,200
Speaker 1: Who knows. Let me get some more of that so

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02:09:04,240 --> 02:09:08,360
Speaker 1: I can keep running four three and chase it. How

2339
02:09:08,400 --> 02:09:10,360
Speaker 1: about this one, Steve, I'm gonna throw you for a

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02:09:10,440 --> 02:09:13,920
Speaker 1: loop with this one. NFL Networks Ian Rappaport has just

2341
02:09:14,080 --> 02:09:19,600
Speaker 1: said update on a former first round pick, Tim Tebow

2342
02:09:20,240 --> 02:09:24,520
Speaker 1: recently worked out for the Jaguars. We know the connection there.

2343
02:09:25,160 --> 02:09:29,080
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer, who formerly coached Tim Tebow, worked out for

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02:09:29,160 --> 02:09:31,880
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, and there has been at least some discussion

2345
02:09:32,640 --> 02:09:36,520
Speaker 1: of signing him. Oh and by the way, he's a

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02:09:36,600 --> 02:09:41,840
Speaker 1: tight end now, Oh, it's a tight end. So Tim

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02:09:41,920 --> 02:09:44,879
Speaker 1: Tebow I think in the last six months officially retired

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02:09:44,960 --> 02:09:47,120
Speaker 1: from baseball. As you know, he was kicking around in

2349
02:09:47,160 --> 02:09:50,840
Speaker 1: the minor leagues. I believe in the Mets organization got

2350
02:09:50,880 --> 02:09:55,760
Speaker 1: to double a hung it up and now trying to

2351
02:09:55,880 --> 02:10:00,360
Speaker 1: revive his professional football career as a tight end and

2352
02:10:00,680 --> 02:10:02,600
Speaker 1: obviously had an end with the head coach of the

2353
02:10:02,680 --> 02:10:05,760
Speaker 1: Jaguar since it was his head coach. As niversary of

2354
02:10:05,800 --> 02:10:12,960
Speaker 1: Florida Tebow, he refused to do that when he came

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02:10:13,000 --> 02:10:16,200
Speaker 1: out as it and right for good reason. He made

2356
02:10:16,200 --> 02:10:17,960
Speaker 1: a pile of money as a first round draft pick

2357
02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:20,120
Speaker 1: of the Broncos as a quarterback. I was on the

2358
02:10:20,240 --> 02:10:23,080
Speaker 1: sidelines for the playoff game that he quarterback did the

2359
02:10:23,120 --> 02:10:28,240
Speaker 1: overtime win over the Steelers against the Steelers, and that's

2360
02:10:28,320 --> 02:10:33,720
Speaker 1: what I remember about quick story. I'm doing the sidelines

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02:10:33,760 --> 02:10:37,600
Speaker 1: of the game. My we have family in Denver, right

2362
02:10:38,000 --> 02:10:42,160
Speaker 1: in the Colorado region, but ton of them cousins, aunt's uncles.

2363
02:10:42,200 --> 02:10:45,560
Speaker 1: All right, So my wife accompanies me to the game

2364
02:10:45,640 --> 02:10:47,840
Speaker 1: because she's in a visit family while I'm working right,

2365
02:10:47,920 --> 02:10:50,160
Speaker 1: So I got her a sideline. She pregames. She's down there.

2366
02:10:50,200 --> 02:10:52,480
Speaker 1: We're walking around, and she says, why is this Tebow?

2367
02:10:53,240 --> 02:10:55,600
Speaker 1: So why do people hate him and yell about him

2368
02:10:55,600 --> 02:10:57,360
Speaker 1: and then love him? What's the deal with him? And

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02:10:57,520 --> 02:11:01,160
Speaker 1: I go, well, he's this guy's a tremendous guy. But

2370
02:11:01,320 --> 02:11:04,120
Speaker 1: he you know, he didn't you know, he's he's at cumted.

2371
02:11:04,240 --> 02:11:05,760
Speaker 1: She goes, he's a quarterback. What are what's going on?

2372
02:11:05,840 --> 02:11:07,360
Speaker 1: So we're walking the back of the end zone here

2373
02:11:07,840 --> 02:11:10,360
Speaker 1: they come out and they're throwing. Tebow's backs up into

2374
02:11:10,400 --> 02:11:11,680
Speaker 1: the end zone in the middle of the field and

2375
02:11:11,720 --> 02:11:16,160
Speaker 1: throws a quick out. My wife whom she thinks the

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02:11:16,240 --> 02:11:19,760
Speaker 1: ball's blown up. She does, it might be stuffed, and

2377
02:11:19,920 --> 02:11:21,760
Speaker 1: she's pretty sure that if the ball goes through the

2378
02:11:21,840 --> 02:11:24,400
Speaker 1: uprights it's a field. I'm teasing. She knows about football,

2379
02:11:24,640 --> 02:11:27,040
Speaker 1: but you know, she doesn't know players. Right, right, he

2380
02:11:27,200 --> 02:11:29,480
Speaker 1: throws one quick out route and she goes, oh my god.

2381
02:11:30,880 --> 02:11:34,920
Speaker 1: She so she saw it as lousy. Oh yeah, he's

2382
02:11:35,040 --> 02:11:37,000
Speaker 1: She's like, well, he's like, wasn't he throwing on to

2383
02:11:37,120 --> 02:11:40,400
Speaker 1: that guy? What was that's why he's throwing to that guy? Right?

2384
02:11:41,120 --> 02:11:44,040
Speaker 1: She's like, oh my gosh, she couldn't believe he couldn't

2385
02:11:44,080 --> 02:11:45,760
Speaker 1: throw it to that guy. Then he wins the game.

2386
02:11:46,000 --> 02:11:50,360
Speaker 1: He wins the game. But even she like one drop

2387
02:11:50,440 --> 02:11:52,960
Speaker 1: back and throw. She was like, oh my gosh. Get

2388
02:11:53,000 --> 02:11:57,680
Speaker 1: her in the scouting department. So there you go. That's

2389
02:11:57,720 --> 02:12:00,480
Speaker 1: why the guy's a tight end now. Yeah, and tried

2390
02:12:00,520 --> 02:12:03,080
Speaker 1: to be a baseball player. Break time for us, Steve

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Speaker 1: and I close it up when we return with what

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02:12:05,920 --> 02:12:08,080
Speaker 1: have we learned? On one Bill's line presented by Kalida

2393
02:12:08,120 --> 02:12:24,360
Speaker 1: helped Buffalo Bills Radio. What have we learned? Brought to

2394
02:12:24,440 --> 02:12:28,360
Speaker 1: you by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental company of

2395
02:12:28,520 --> 02:12:33,560
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, And we've learned this Tom Pellisio NFL

2396
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Speaker 1: Network saying the forty nine ers reached out to the

2397
02:12:35,480 --> 02:12:38,320
Speaker 1: Packers on Wednesday about training for Aaron Rodgers, but no

2398
02:12:38,440 --> 02:12:40,480
Speaker 1: formal offer was made and a source said there is

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02:12:40,520 --> 02:12:44,280
Speaker 1: zero percent chance at Green Bay Deals. The raining NFL

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02:12:44,560 --> 02:12:48,840
Speaker 1: MVP Ian Rappaport followed up by saying, while focusing on

2401
02:12:48,920 --> 02:12:51,680
Speaker 1: the draft, the forty nine ers have been monitoring the

2402
02:12:51,840 --> 02:12:56,320
Speaker 1: veteran QBS Toshaun Watson Aaron Rodgers. This wasn't the first

2403
02:12:56,360 --> 02:13:00,520
Speaker 1: piece of due diligence either. Yeah, I get it they're

2404
02:13:00,880 --> 02:13:03,600
Speaker 1: putting out there now. They might not have enough assets,

2405
02:13:03,680 --> 02:13:06,120
Speaker 1: But I mean you'd have to say, Okay, if you're

2406
02:13:06,160 --> 02:13:07,760
Speaker 1: the Niners, what are we gonna have to do to

2407
02:13:07,800 --> 02:13:09,880
Speaker 1: get them to not say just say no out of hand?

2408
02:13:10,680 --> 02:13:13,280
Speaker 1: And if you're the Green Bay Packers, it's your job

2409
02:13:14,680 --> 02:13:18,160
Speaker 1: to come up with a price for your reigning MVP.

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02:13:21,200 --> 02:13:23,080
Speaker 1: You can say what you want. It's Aaron Rodgers, the

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02:13:23,120 --> 02:13:26,760
Speaker 1: guys in his mid thirties. It's your job to come

2412
02:13:26,840 --> 02:13:28,920
Speaker 1: up with a price that you will take for him.

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Speaker 1: This year's one of for San Francisco, of course. This

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Speaker 1: year's two yes, next year's one, next year's two yes,

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02:13:35,400 --> 02:13:38,120
Speaker 1: and the third years one. Yeah. I'll take all of

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02:13:38,160 --> 02:13:44,360
Speaker 1: that and Nick Bosa. If you can give me three ones,

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02:13:44,760 --> 02:13:48,080
Speaker 1: two twos and Nick Bosa, it's a done deal. I'll

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02:13:48,160 --> 02:13:51,840
Speaker 1: think about it. Yeah. When you're looking and vetting the

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02:13:51,960 --> 02:13:55,640
Speaker 1: veteran quarterbacks like this, it makes me believe they're still

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Speaker 1: leaning towards mac Jones. But it's down to Trey Lance

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02:13:59,360 --> 02:14:02,680
Speaker 1: and mac Jones, and the sports books have now moved

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Speaker 1: Lance into the position of favorite for the pick at three.

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Speaker 1: If Lance goes there, I don't think they deal Garoppolo.

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Speaker 1: I think they hang on to him. Yeah, I think

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02:14:11,360 --> 02:14:13,920
Speaker 1: they have to. They have to. Steve and I will

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Speaker 1: be back tomorrow at noon to break down round one.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you then