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Speaker 1: Laden ten touched up. What's up? Guys, Welcome into a

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Speaker 1: brand new episode of Chargers Weekly. We are presented by

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Speaker 1: Splintero as always, joined by the voice of the Chargers

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Speaker 1: Matt Muddy Smith and our guy Jalila Died joining us

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Speaker 1: today and gentlemen, it's all about the fifty three men roster.

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Speaker 1: A lot of surprises, a lot of directions. We can

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Speaker 1: go Jalel, when you first saw it, what stood out

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Speaker 1: to you?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 3: It's crazy because we were talking about it. Chris and

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Speaker 3: I thought that Tony Jefferson was going to be a

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Speaker 3: for sure lock. We've seen that obviously r J mckens.

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Speaker 3: He had a beast of a preseason. We knew that

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Speaker 3: he would be locked. But the biggest surprise for me

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Speaker 3: was Kenda Williamson. Throughout the preseason, he was a really

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Speaker 3: good shirt tackler and I would I remember saying to myself, Man,

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Speaker 3: he's having a really strong case of, you know, making

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Speaker 3: this roster. But I didn't think that he would sir

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Speaker 3: past Tony Jefferson. So that was the biggest one for me. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: Tony Jefferson signback on the practice squad, but I thought

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Speaker 3: Tony did enough to make the initial fifty three no

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Speaker 3: slate to Kendall because he had a solid preseason as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I had a gut feeling that he was gonna

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Speaker 4: make it. He's been an exceptional special teams player. We

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Speaker 4: know how important Ryan Ficken is into this process, especially

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Speaker 4: when you're talking about players forty five through fifty three.

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Speaker 4: And even though Tony was playing special teams. Uh, personally,

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Speaker 4: you know, I thought Kendall might and I think Kendall's

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Speaker 4: probably fifty three. I think he had gotten claimed. I

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Speaker 4: don't think there's any any doubt. You love smart safeties

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Speaker 4: and you can just see it in the way he

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Speaker 4: plays that he sees it, he diagnoses it. He's there

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Speaker 4: in a hurry. You said it. Jalil, He's a sure tackler.

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Speaker 4: We saw him in limited action last year, so we

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Speaker 4: know how much they like him. You know, he's a

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Speaker 4: guy that was elevated from the practice squad. And I

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Speaker 4: think when you look at the waiverclaim, you know what

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Speaker 4: do you see? You see a mountain of defensive backs.

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Speaker 4: Those are the guys that end up getting claimed more

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Speaker 4: than anyone else. And to me, I think that's what

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Speaker 4: you know some people And then Jalil I know for

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Speaker 4: you it's it's a different sort of feeling. I would

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Speaker 4: imagine you do everything, you feel good, you want to

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Speaker 4: make that fifty three. But to me it's I think

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Speaker 4: a lot of the calculus for the way they did

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Speaker 4: the fifty three. The way they did it was who

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Speaker 4: can we sneak through? And I think they probably knew.

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Speaker 4: I think Tony's not going to sign as a free

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Speaker 4: agent anywhere else. We can get him back and we'll

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Speaker 4: kind of lay this out for him, and Williamson will

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Speaker 4: get claimed, Nico will get claimed. You know, Eric Rodgers

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Speaker 4: even might get claimed. With the ink. Let's just keep

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Speaker 4: all those dbs and we'll roll the dice with our

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Speaker 4: offensive lineman, you know, Branson Taylor will roll the dice

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Speaker 4: with Tony, Jefferson, the older eleven year vet, you know,

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Speaker 4: with Nahem Hines, with those kind of players. Now Rocket

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Speaker 4: got claimed. We can get into that in a minute,

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Speaker 4: but I think that's probably what went into that. If

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Speaker 4: we put if we put Kendall on the on waivers,

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Speaker 4: someone's going to pick him up and we want him.

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Speaker 1: Jillill, I wonder if it because it played out the

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Speaker 1: same way for Tony as last year, and he was

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Speaker 1: just trying to, you know, kind of get back into

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Speaker 1: progressively better last year. I wonder if it, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know, we'd have to ask Tony, but like,

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Speaker 1: did he want to go anywhere else? Was the practice

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Speaker 1: the same results last year of him playing a lot

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great question, and only Tony would know that.

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Speaker 3: But me knowing Tony, he's you know, as the San

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Speaker 3: Diego native, lives here in Powaway. You know, eleven year

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Speaker 3: vet family is comfortable, so knows the system obviously, like

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Speaker 3: like you said, last year, kind of the same road.

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Speaker 3: And two thousand and twenty is when they first introduced that,

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Speaker 3: And you know, it works for both the players and

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Speaker 3: can be practice squad, but we know, like anyone else knows,

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Speaker 3: he can be elevated by week two, week three, week

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Speaker 2: So it's different than.

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Speaker 3: When before twenty twenty, when practice squad was you know

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Speaker 3: kind of like ah, I may practice, No, you.

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Speaker 2: Make practice squad. Now it's like, look, you can be practice.

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Speaker 3: Squad tomorrow and by Sunday you could be upready dressed

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Speaker 3: and playing a very pivotal you know position for the defense, offense,

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Speaker 4: I think we already saw Chris with Eric Rodgers, right,

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Speaker 4: he makes the initial fifty three and del Sean Phillips doesn't.

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Speaker 4: Del Seawan is you know, a special team's ace, and

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Speaker 4: you know, as opposed to someone that's gonna probably get

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Speaker 4: the you know, he's going to be that mcnemon sort

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Speaker 4: Marlo Wax and Ico Reid. We'll roll the dice again,

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Speaker 4: you know on on del Sean and they immediately sign

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Speaker 4: shows competence in the front office, the way they did

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Speaker 4: it right, It's like, you know what, we're going to

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Speaker 4: can have your little gamesmanship. And it's something I know

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Speaker 4: it's a different sport, but it's something that Dodgers have

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Speaker 4: done so effectively. You know, when the new rules were

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Speaker 4: it's the Oklahoma City Express. Dude, you're you're gone for

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Speaker 4: I don't see you kept twelve defensive backs, Joshure, you know,

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Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if this fifty three changes

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Speaker 1: by the time people are listening to this. You're taping

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Speaker 1: this on a Thursday morning. Seems happening with this podcast often.

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Speaker 1: But just staying on the defensive side, Jalil the two

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Speaker 1: Say what you keep? Twelve d Beach. There was not

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Speaker 1: a way to not keep Nico Reid with the way

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Speaker 1: Marlo Wax, I think making the fifty three wasn't much

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Speaker 3: No, well, it's funny we we missed on I think

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Speaker 3: it was the second week of preseason with our players

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Speaker 3: just obviously undrafted. I have a soft spot for undrafted guys.

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Speaker 3: just it's refreshing, right because it shows again what this

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Speaker 3: That's just is what it is. And we would always

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Speaker 3: not shocking to me to see that those sixth rounders

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Speaker 2: The crack, all on myself. So I'm not surprised at all.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Chris. I mean, just to Julia's point, the Rams

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Speaker 3: One thing that just popped out to me you said

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Speaker 2: First, not the player. Yeah, and it's a fact.

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Speaker 4: Like you said, I'm looking at the just real quick, Chris,

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Speaker 4: claimed to the Nico Reid, Eric Rodgers, why didn't they

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Speaker 1: And Julia probably goes to your point where maybe there

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Speaker 3: And we're not talking about you know, nause getting a

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Speaker 3: bone or ankle. No, we're talking hamstrings, right, knock on,

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Speaker 3: wood calves, soft tissue.

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Speaker 2: Like, those things come.

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Speaker 3: Those things come to play because your body's just not ready,

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Speaker 3: your body's not trained for, your body's fatigued, and when

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Speaker 3: your body's fatigued, that's when you start straining stuff. So

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Speaker 3: I was kind of shocked to see that they were

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Speaker 3: going to have him ready to rock week one, not

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Speaker 3: because he's not ready physically and mentally, but because it

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Speaker 3: will his body be able to take the toll that's

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Speaker 3: going to go down in Brazil.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's you know, when you're thinking about

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Speaker 4: who got put back on the practice squad, that's kind

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Speaker 4: of where Comani by Dell pops In. You know, is

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Speaker 4: here's someone who plays a ton of special teams who

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Speaker 4: fits into that room. You know, if it's Hampton and

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Speaker 4: Haskins and then Videll, you know who's probably your best

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Speaker 4: pass catching back, you know, unless Hampton takes that from him,

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Speaker 4: which I wouldn't be surprised. And so I think they

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Speaker 4: felt good about that. You know, to me, if I

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Speaker 4: had to get like as crazy as it sounds and like,

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Speaker 4: here's the thing I And maybe it's just because I

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Speaker 4: got into this so much with people online because I like,

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Speaker 4: I love it. You know, it's fun to engage with

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Speaker 4: them and talk a little bit and kind of see

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Speaker 4: where they're coming from and what they saw. And I said, listen,

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Speaker 4: I've seen a lot of this is my tenth year, man,

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Speaker 4: I've seen a lot of ninth year. I've seen a

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Speaker 4: lot of preseason football. And there's only one running back

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Speaker 4: I remember going Holy hell, and that was Austin Eckler,

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Speaker 4: and that dude was ripping off carries for six yards

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Speaker 4: per tote. He caught the hell out. He had a

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Speaker 4: wheel route where he tracked the ball over his shoulder, burned.

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Speaker 4: A linebacker took it in for a tug or almost.

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Speaker 4: I think you took it to like the two yard

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Speaker 4: line and he was a special team's demon, like just

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Speaker 4: a freaking psycho. Yeah, he was gunning. I said, you know,

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Speaker 4: Rocket had a nice run. He had like one like

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Speaker 4: you because you're like, oh wow, that's a that's a

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Speaker 4: big man moving now. And like I was like, there's

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Speaker 4: there's there's there's not a lot there. There's not a

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Speaker 4: lot where someone will be like, holy hell, look at it.

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Speaker 4: This guy's going to be a stuff. You've got a

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Speaker 4: Marion Hampton that's gonna be getting seventy five percent of

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Speaker 4: the carries. You got Naji Harris in the first few

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Speaker 4: weeks here that's gonna get twenty percent of the carries.

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Speaker 4: And Ashan Haskin is gonna get five percent of the carries.

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Speaker 4: What does that do for Rocket Sanders? He's inactive, Like

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Speaker 4: that's that's all we're talking about, you know. So for

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Speaker 4: people that are with with the, with the with the

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Speaker 4: to your point, Chris with Nause being out there practicing,

479
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Speaker 4: like you have to remember, like this is a room,

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Speaker 4: it's a collection, it's not Rocket Sanders is great.

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Speaker 1: our preseason colored glasses off now it's time for the

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Speaker 1: regular season. And this is why they brought nag in.

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Speaker 1: They brought Naji in before Marion Hampton was even in

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Speaker 1: the conversation at twenty two, overall thinking that he could

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Speaker 1: be the bell cow. So when you bring in another

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Speaker 1: guy who we're very confident can have a really really

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Speaker 1: good year, maybe offensive Rookie of the Year type year

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Speaker 1: with a Marion Hampton, just the way that he looked

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Speaker 1: throughout the preseason, where are the carry's going to come

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Speaker 1: from for anybody else? Right? So I think Amaron Hampton

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Speaker 1: can can carry the load for the first four weeks

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Speaker 1: if need be. If you want to give Nase four

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Speaker 1: five touches in Brazil and give Amaran fifteen to twenty

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Speaker 1: and let Justin Herbert do the rest. And that's great,

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Speaker 1: but I think that that's going to ramp up to

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Speaker 1: a running game that is going to be I think,

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Speaker 1: markedly more consistent than it was last year, because there

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Speaker 1: was there was times listen when JK was rolling for

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Speaker 1: a few weeks, he was, he was popping off fifty

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Speaker 1: sixty hour runs, but we were lacking a consistency on

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Speaker 1: a week to week basis.

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Speaker 4: Julie, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I'm just going to tell you from a players standpoint,

512
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Speaker 3: like the Kannasity Chiefs, like you better get your big

513
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Speaker 3: boy pads because for four quarters tackling and Marion Hampton

514
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Speaker 3: and then the guy that's sparing him is Najie Harris,

515
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Speaker 3: Like that's a heavyweight fight, twelve rounds, blow for blow.

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Speaker 3: Like I you talk about a JK. Dobbins comeback year.

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Speaker 3: Last year was hot, right, you know, finished games for us.

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Speaker 3: But this is a different monster that we're talking about

519
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Speaker 3: with these two headed monsters that they got, and I

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Speaker 3: think it's going to be really really beneficial for Herbie

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Speaker 3: and the offense.

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Speaker 4: And look, this was another thing I pointed out. You

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Speaker 4: know someone's like oh, Rockett was the best running back

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Speaker 4: in the preseason. I said, no, it wasn't. St Haskins

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Speaker 4: was the best running back in the preseason. Son Haskins

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Speaker 4: looked like a man on a mission. And you're talking

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Speaker 4: about a guy that posted a fifteen hundred year our

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Speaker 4: twenty four touchdown season for coach harbaughd Michigan. You know

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Speaker 4: that this is a dude that you look at his

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Speaker 4: and I think what happens is people become victim some

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Speaker 4: not all, but but a lot of people that get

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Speaker 4: get you know, air in their mouth and start flapping

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Speaker 4: those gums. They're just looking at box scores and they're

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Speaker 4: looking at Hassan's Haskins stats from last year and it's like, well,

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Speaker 4: why are we keeping a guy that's averaging you know,

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Speaker 4: three yards per carrier? Why? Because that's the guy that

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Speaker 4: was asked to pick up third and one and would

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Speaker 4: get you three yards every time they handed him the ball.

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Speaker 4: That's a guy that would go in and justin Herbert

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Speaker 4: trusted him implicitly in pass pro to hang in there

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Speaker 4: and wait for lad to flash open, like it's not

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Speaker 4: all about being you know, Priest Holmes and averaging five

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Speaker 4: point five yards per carry, Like Hassan's role was very

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Speaker 4: defined last year and he was really good at it.

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Speaker 4: And he was and he never complained. Here's a guy

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Speaker 4: on a one year deal, on a ED minimum deal,

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Speaker 4: and he never complained about being the running back that

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Speaker 4: didn't get those opportunities on first and second down, rarely

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Speaker 4: maybe get a series per game, and was constantly asked

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Speaker 4: to come in and pick up two yards and he

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Speaker 4: knew what that would do to his box score. And

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Speaker 4: I commend him, man, and I commend the coaching staff.

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Speaker 4: Same thing with Tucker Fisk. Man. That was the other one.

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Speaker 4: I had him on my initial fifty three and people

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Speaker 4: are like, you're out of your mind, you can't keep

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Speaker 4: up blocking. You watched Tucker Fisk. That guy's freaking machine. Man.

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Speaker 4: This is a team that wants to bly. You're talking

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Speaker 4: about at big Boy Pants, Jalil. You know, like you've

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Speaker 4: got a right side of the line that is severely

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Speaker 4: compromised because of the Rashaun Slater injury, and you need

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Speaker 4: to tell me you're not gonna keep Tucker Fisk on

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Speaker 4: this roster and plant his ass right next to Trey Pipkins.

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Speaker 4: You know, while you have Will Dissy this team's gonna

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Speaker 4: be operating in twelve and twenty two and freaking thirteen

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Speaker 4: a heck of a lot this season, and Tucker Fisk

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Speaker 4: is gonna be a big part of that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, naikeem heinz him. I was very intrigued

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Speaker 1: to see who the running backs they were going to

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Speaker 1: keep on the practice squad, and I imagine Rocket was

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Speaker 1: gonna be one of them headed out through and then

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Speaker 1: I don't know, if you know, it could have been

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Speaker 1: between nahim and and Kimani. Jimani played really well the

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Speaker 1: first two preseason games, I think is the third one,

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Speaker 1: he had like ten carries for sixteen yards.

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Speaker 4: Then they got the old line was a disaster in

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Speaker 4: that game. Yes, I mean it was an abject failure

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Speaker 4: in that game, and it didn't do those guys any favors.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, the one thing we talked about

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Speaker 1: with Naim Jalil on Saturday is just the concern anything

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Speaker 1: is the fumbles, like putting the ball on the ground.

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Speaker 1: Jim harball. You're not going to play if you put

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Speaker 1: the football on the ground. So three fumbles in the

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Speaker 1: preseason a little concerning. But on the other side of it,

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Speaker 1: you know, his veteran presence and kind of maybe having

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Speaker 1: a veteran in the room if something were to happen

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Speaker 1: to Nazi or he can't go, and then you know,

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Speaker 1: let's kind of shift to the tight ends room. I

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Speaker 1: agree with your money. I didn't see a world where

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Speaker 1: Tuckerfisk wasn't going to be on the team just because

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Speaker 1: of the Rashaun Slater injury. Now you have you have

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Speaker 1: Disley who can kind of slide into that natural role

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Speaker 1: as primarily a blocker, but someone who can catch the football,

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Speaker 1: and then you have Conklin and Gatson is really your

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Speaker 1: top past catching options. It's a tight ends room, Jalil,

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Speaker 1: that just feels a lot more complete than it did

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Speaker 1: last year. And with the absence of Rishawn Slater, man

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Speaker 1: you need those blocking tight ends, especially in the fourth

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Speaker 1: quarter of football games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and when you look at Tucker Fisk, they labeled

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Speaker 3: him as a tight end, but he's really a glorified.

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Speaker 2: Old school fullback.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, he's.

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Speaker 3: That's what he's built like, right, And you know, I

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Speaker 3: know the game has gotten away from the typical traditional

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Speaker 3: fullback right back in the day leading you know ISOs,

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Speaker 3: but that's what he is. When money, you talked about it.

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Speaker 3: You can go thirteen personnel, motion him in the backfield.

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Speaker 3: Now you have an eye formation with two block and

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Speaker 3: tight ends still on the field right. Then you motion

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Speaker 3: him from the backfield to create that you know, we

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Speaker 3: called it a spread look with three tight ends on

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Speaker 3: the line, and now you're creating extra running gaps. So

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Speaker 3: there's so much that you can do with that thirteen

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Speaker 3: personnel and the twenty two personnel and the twenty one

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Speaker 3: personnel and the identity and the style of ball that

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Speaker 3: Jim har Ball plays.

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Speaker 2: It only made sense.

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Speaker 3: That that was, you know, one of the key points

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Speaker 3: to keep Tucker Fisk. And when you talk about the

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Speaker 3: tight end room being more complete, Tyler Conklin obviously passing

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Speaker 3: tight end, got Rondi Gaskin passing tight end, and then

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Speaker 3: you got Will Disley who can do it. Last year,

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Speaker 3: I mean he was in the passing game.

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Speaker 1: He proved it.

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Speaker 2: I prove it. So I mean you improved. There's a

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Speaker 2: major improvement in that room.

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Speaker 3: And like I said, with Fist being you know, a

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Speaker 3: glorified tight end slash fullback, you can move him around

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Speaker 3: so much.

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Speaker 4: He's a chess piece, yeah, and a launch snapper. Don't

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Speaker 4: find out.

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, the more the more you can do,

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Speaker 2: the more you.

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Speaker 4: And I'll say, look, he's not going to be snap.

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Speaker 4: He's not gonna be launch snapping the ball in the

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Speaker 4: Chiefs game in Brazil. So that's something to keep in mind.

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Speaker 4: You know, you're going to remove one of these players

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Speaker 4: from the fifty three because you have to add a

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Speaker 4: long snapper, and you're gonna remove one of these players

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Speaker 4: from the fifty three because you're gonna have to add

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Speaker 4: a ninth offensive linement. You know, I just don't. I

642
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Speaker 4: don't and that I don't foresee this team. And I

643
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 4: Popper and I had this argument at a training camp practice,

644
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 4: and you know, Popper likes to get hot when it

645
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 4: comes to the fifty three man roster, and he said,

646
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 4: there's no way this team is going to carry eight

647
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 4: offensive linemen because we were kind of talking about the

648
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 4: struggles of David Sharp of Branson Taylor, and I just said,

649
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 4: if they're not rosterable in their current state, David Sharp,

650
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 4: you know, Greg Roman has talked about how he's out

651
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 4: of shape. They need to get him back in shape.

652
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 4: And the fact that Taylor has kind of been dealing

653
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 4: with these injuries and really struggling out there. I was like,

654
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 4: how can you put them on the fifty three? I

655
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 4: was like, they're going to have to go out and

656
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 4: find other guys. And yes, this is a team that's

657
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 4: going to probably carry nine offensive linemen. I've got to

658
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 4: believe that with the injury history to Mackay Beckton, with

659
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 4: the you know, Trey has been a guy that's got

660
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 4: banged up quite a bit. So now I think, you know,

661
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,719
Speaker 4: you're talking about nine oer linemen, and you know, you

662
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 4: look at the the practice squad tells you everything. You know,

663
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 4: it kind of tells the tail right, and they get

664
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 4: seventeen because they have Thomas Yasman in there for the

665
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 4: international player. But the sixteen players, look who they are.

666
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 4: David Sharp, coach Roman told us he's got to get

667
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 4: into shape. You know, Branson Taylor, Hey, tried them a

668
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 4: guard wasn't really working. Try him it at tackle. Let's see.

669
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 4: You know, it's a project, you can see it. You

670
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 4: know the same thing with Look if Nahem Hines doesn't

671
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 4: have those three fumbles, I think he makes the team, right.

672
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because he's a he's a Darius Davis replacement too.

673
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: Right back there, you know, the more, like you said,

674
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: the more you can do. And you know, the the

675
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: Josh Harris thing throws a little bit of a wrinkle

676
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: into the first four weeks of the season. You're not

677
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: gonna have him. He's a he's a Pro Bowl long snapper,

678
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: and it's until you don't have a long snapper. It's

679
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: not as everything's fine until he's out of the equation

680
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: because the chemistry between JK and Cameron and Josh is

681
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: a big deal. They brought Rick Levado onto the practice squad.

682
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: He was with the Eagles, won two Super Bowls with

683
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: the Eagles, was there for for eight or nine seasons.

684
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: So at least you bring in a guy who's been there,

685
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: done that, who has been in big moments, and you

686
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: hope that you don't miss the absence of Josh Harris

687
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: because that would be something that has gone wrong in

688
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: the Special Teams operation. Guys.

689
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you do you talk about it, Chris.

690
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 3: It's like it's like the girlfriend that you know been

691
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 3: wanting you forever and you've been shutting her away and.

692
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: Then when she leaves you, you realize how much you

693
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: miss her.

694
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 3: Right, It's it's the long snapper, Like it's a it's

695
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 3: just a position that's taken for granted.

696
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: Like he's a long snapper, he better do his job.

697
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 2: But it's all about timing.

698
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 3: And I would see these guys so often while we're

699
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 3: doing seven on seven and team and one on ones,

700
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 3: the long snapper and the holder and the kicker off

701
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 3: to the side, and they're just they're just practicing their reps,

702
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 3: their timing. And I was a part of a team

703
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 3: when we were losing games by three, right, and we

704
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 3: were missing game winning field goals and.

705
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 4: We yeah, you know like twenty seventeen.

706
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, we missed the playoffs because of it.

707
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 4: Right, So, yeah, lost your first four, lost.

708
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: The first and we were I mean, it's nothing you

709
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: can do.

710
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 4: With finished nine and seven, lost your first four and

711
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 4: finished nine and seven.

712
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: And still didn't make it.

713
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, like, I know how crucial it is for

714
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 3: a long snapper and a hold.

715
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 2: You're a kicker, right.

716
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 3: Everyone knows how great Cameron Dicker is, But at the

717
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 3: end of the day, Cameron Dicker can't do his job

718
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 3: if the operation time is not done correctly. So that's

719
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 3: a good point you made, Chris, And hopefully you know,

720
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 3: we don't miss Harris those first four weeks.

721
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's gonna be hard not to miss. Somebody's

722
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 4: a captain. It's a guy that's been made. He's a

723
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 4: long snapper and he was a captain of the team.

724
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 4: Like that's how important he is. And you know, the

725
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 4: operation's been arguably the best in football between EJK and

726
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 4: Dicker when it comes to cam and look that has

727
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 4: been historically. All he's going to do is take his

728
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,479
Speaker 4: next three attempts and it'll still be the most accurate

729
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 4: kicker in the history of the NFL through one hundred attempts.

730
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 4: So you know, so Levado's going to get elevated. And

731
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 4: the reason he hasn't been yet because they want to

732
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 4: try to get these teams to get their rosters as

733
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 4: settled as possible. So whoever he's replacing is going to

734
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 4: go to the practice squad and hopefully won't get picked

735
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 4: up and put on somebody's fifty three. But yeah, that's

736
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 4: gonna be a big one. You know, that's gonna be

737
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 4: a big one because I don't know and look, I

738
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 4: bring I puffed my chest out about Tucker Fisk and

739
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 4: all that, and I also recognize that I think he's

740
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 4: a guy that could probably be sent down from time

741
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 4: to time because I don't know how many teams value

742
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 4: what Tucker Fisk would have to offer like the Chargers do.

743
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 4: I do know, though, that he is as valuable to

744
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 4: them as he would be any other team, and that's

745
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 4: why he may never get sent down, because they can't

746
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 4: afford to lose someone who's that capable of a blocker,

747
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 4: who had a seven game streak with a reception, you know,

748
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 4: who's always good for one man, he's gonna get you one.

749
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 4: He saw at of that preseason get Hall of Fame game, right,

750
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 4: there's a nineteen yarder man and he's got good hands.

751
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 4: You know, he's got good hands, and you let them

752
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 4: leak out. It's a fun little it's fun. It's a

753
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 4: fun play man. I remember going back and watching it.

754
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 4: I'm gonna pull up right now just because it puts

755
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 4: a big smile on my face when I see it.

756
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 4: It's just I think, you know what, I think they

757
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 4: did it with a ronde if I remember right, I

758
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 4: think it was with a ronde in the might have

759
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 4: been the Saints game, and it was a fun little

760
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 4: wrinkle to see, Julie, you got him, You got a

761
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 4: Rondez linking up with I think it was I think

762
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 4: it was a backer that was lined up, and he's

763
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 4: got him for a good second and a half two seconds,

764
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, just chucks him and

765
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 4: he runs that seam route and it's wide open man

766
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 4: for fifteen twenty yards. And that's what Fisk does, because

767
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 4: what does he do? He goes out there any blocks

768
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 4: and you're you can it's one of those it's not

769
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 4: a trick play, but it's a play. You set up

770
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 4: all these runs, all these runs, all these run here

771
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 4: comes Tucker Fisk and then all of a sudden he's

772
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 4: ditching you and there is nobody for fifteen yards of

773
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 4: green and you're gonna pick up a first down because

774
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 4: of it, every single game, because of how capable of

775
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 4: a blocker he is and the resources that they have

776
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 4: to commit to try to win that battle.

777
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Tucker, go ahead, Jilli, Okay.

778
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 3: And that's the thing, like we talk about it, and

779
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 3: we didn't even mention twenty three personnel with Scott with

780
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 3: Scottie in the back, full bank right right, and three

781
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 3: tight ends on the field, and it's like, okay, well,

782
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: obviously it looks like they're gonna run the ball, but

783
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 3: then there's play action and now the linebacker's feet are

784
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 3: cold and they're not coming downhill is fast. And now

785
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: that they're coming down hill is fast, We're gonna go

786
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 3: play action over the top. So listen, it's gonna be

787
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 3: really interesting to see how g ro gets creative with

788
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 3: that personnel.

789
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 2: Well, you know.

790
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: Tucker Fisked and you know him being a target for

791
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: Justin Herver late in the season is a nice segue

792
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: to the to the.

793
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 4: Wider I'm watching it right now. It's hilarious to watch.

794
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 4: I mean, Tucker is, he's a freaking bowling ball.

795
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: He's attached Tucker for President Man.

796
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 4: Right, he's attached to the right line. He's attached to

797
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 4: the right of the offensive line. And on the snap

798
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 4: with with Trey throwing it, he just sneaks out and

799
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 4: he just breaks that. It's like a post route, man,

800
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 4: and he's got to jump and a high point the

801
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 4: ball and it's like, yeah, dude, there we go. It's

802
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 4: hilarious to watch, man.

803
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 2: But I don't think I'm happy about anything other than surfing.

804
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 4: Oh it makes me so happy because the guy, I mean,

805
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 4: you know how it is, Julie right, you bust your

806
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 4: face into a guy for however many snapped forty five

807
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 4: snaps a game, and then here's my one chance, dude,

808
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 4: and I'm setting up this safety and he's setting up

809
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 4: outside leverage A bang, I'm gonna cut it inside and

810
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to high point this thing for fifteen yards.

811
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: Well, definitely, I'm excited about that. I don't want to

812
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: see it in September. I'd like to see these wide

813
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: receivers that that I think we finally have a wide

814
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 1: receiver room that that looks complete. And it was you know, Mike,

815
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: Mike retired, they won a training camp. I think that

816
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of okay, what are what

817
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: are KALs and Trey Harriskon looks like in the preseason

818
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: they delivered Keena comes in and as soon as Keina

819
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: came in, it felt like that wide receiver room was

820
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: really really settled. Like it felt like we've known for

821
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks now who the six guys are

822
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: going to be. And that's a good thing because you know,

823
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: just going back and mentioning Tucker Fisk when he's a

824
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: weapon in a wildcard game, that's probably not a good sign.

825
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: When when you have a bang up JK. Dobbins and

826
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: not much a burning game, that's not a good sign.

827
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: When nobody other than lat mcconukey's doing anything on the outside,

828
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: it's not great for Justin Herbert. That's why I think

829
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: he was pressing a little bit in that game. Now

830
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: you have Lad and I don't even know if I

831
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: would put a label on who the wide receiver two is.

832
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: It could be Quentin, it could be Keenan. I think

833
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: Trey Harrison Kalos have shown us over like the last month,

834
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: you know, on a on any given Sunday, could be them.

835
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 1: You know, Darius Davis has done stuff. So I think

836
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: that the wide receiver room money's in much much better

837
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 1: shape than it was nine ten months ago.

838
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're going to see a lot of

839
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 4: Laddin Keenan out there.

840
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: Any wide receiver too, baby all day.

841
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 4: Right, I just that to me, like, I think that's

842
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 4: just going to our point though, Juliel about it being

843
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 4: a lot of twelve, a lot of thirteen, maybe some

844
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 4: thirteen and some twenty two. And I think you're gonna

845
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 4: you know, I think you're gonna see a lot of twelve, Lad, Keenan,

846
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 4: and that's what it's gonna look like. You know, to me,

847
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 4: that's that's sort of what I suspect him. Marian Hampton,

848
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 4: here's Tucker Fist, will Disley, Keenan lad and let's go

849
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 4: and and you feel pretty good about.

850
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: That, Jillian, Do you do you think Keenan Do you

851
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: think Keenan has a little chip right now? Like I

852
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: just I'm looking at I'm looking at Terry McLaurin, thirty

853
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: years old getting all that money. He deserves it. But

854
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: you know, Keenan is thirty two, kind of had to

855
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: wake this out and comes to the Chargers and it

856
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: didn't seem like and I don't know, maybe maybe his agent,

857
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: maybe he had other opportunities, didn't want to go anywhere else,

858
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: but it just it feels like he's a little bit forgotten.

859
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: And you know, we talked about how his game is

860
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: early predicated on speed anyway, but you said wide receiver too,

861
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: slam dunk. It's just it's it's hard for me to

862
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: believe that he was out there as long as he was.

863
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I was shocked by that.

864
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 3: And when you look what he did in Chicago last

865
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 3: year with Calen Williams getting beat up and not being

866
00:39:59,000 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 3: able to get the ball.

867
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 2: Out and still had a very productive year.

868
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 3: He still was putting guys on skates, He still was

869
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 3: having highlight reels.

870
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: His game didn't.

871
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 3: Drop right, So the fact that he sat that long

872
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 3: maybe was only people may have thought that, you know,

873
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 3: he was asking for too much at the age that

874
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 3: he's at. You know, in the NFL, once you turn thirty,

875
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 3: which was a good point that Skary Terry just got

876
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 3: that bag at thirty, which just shocking. Once you turn thirty,

877
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 3: no matter how good you look, the front office and

878
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 3: the league starts to write you off like you're going

879
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 3: downhill more than you're going up right for whatever reason.

880
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 3: And I think Keenan still can be arguably, depending on

881
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 3: if they want to run the offense around him, he

882
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 3: could be one, right, but they're not obviously lads one.

883
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 2: We know that.

884
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 3: So when you say who's two, it's Keenan off the

885
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 3: bat right. It just I'm going to be really intrigued

886
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 3: to see how they use Keenan because Keenan really makes

887
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 3: his hay in the slot and Ladd makes his hay

888
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 3: in the slot.

889
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 2: Right.

890
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 3: Earlier on in Keenan's career, he made his hay on

891
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 3: the outside and the slot, and then as you know,

892
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 3: Anthony Lynn came and Staley came. They it was more

893
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 3: so that slot route, slot choices. He's never really been

894
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 3: a burner. We know that since he came into the league.

895
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 3: But he's still one of the best, and we'll go

896
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 3: down as the best wide receiver in charges history. But

897
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 3: I'm just excited for him to be back. Good friend

898
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 3: of mine, same class, and I know that he's going

899
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 3: to put up the numbers this year. That's gonna make

900
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 3: people raise their eyebrows, like, hey, why was this guy

901
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 3: sitting that long?

902
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's also hard they use him. You know, they

903
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 4: didn't really use him right in Chicago. Guy's running go balls,

904
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 4: you know, ten percent of the time.

905
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: And I mean it was a mess there though. It

906
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: was a mess.

907
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, three offensive coordinators and and I think the thing

908
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 4: is her like there's there's he had a rookie throwing

909
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 4: to him that held out of the ball too long

910
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 4: that that we knew, you know, it was going to

911
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 4: take a minute to get acclimated. I still think Cale

912
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a great quarterback in this league. But

913
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 4: you know that what were the knocks coming in he

914
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 4: used to process a little bit, quicker, holds onto the

915
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 4: ball a little too long, thinks he can scramble and

916
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 4: make that is so not Keenan. Allen. Keenan's like and

917
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 4: breaks it down, and I need the ball and and

918
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 4: let's go. And that's what Herbert Herbert sees you know.

919
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 4: Herbert's like a freaking hammerhead shark. Dude, he sees it all,

920
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 4: you know. So it's like the second that ball is snapped,

921
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 4: he's like. That's the thing. When you go back and

922
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 4: watch Herbert tape to see how quickly he goes through

923
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 4: his progressions, it's like, damn Like it's like it was

924
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 4: like watching Drew Brees. You know how quick that dude

925
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 4: would rip through those progressions. And that was like, that's Keenan, Like,

926
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 4: give it to me. It's it's the uh, it's make

927
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 4: another joke. I don't know if this one will land

928
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 4: as well, but it's the it's the lead Keenan is.

929
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 4: And he would probably punch me in the chest if

930
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 4: you heard me say this. But he's kind of like

931
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 4: the Leroy Horde of receivers, right, remember the famous Lee

932
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 4: Roy Horde quote, you want you need two yards I'm

933
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 4: gonna get you three. You need five yards, I'm gonna

934
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 4: get you three. You know, Keenan is you need you

935
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 4: need three yards. I'm gonna get you seven. You need

936
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 4: ten yards. I'm gonna get you seven. You know. But

937
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 4: that's and and I and Herbert have that. You know

938
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 4: they have that. And I don't think Chicago did a

939
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 4: great job of that last year of kind of knowing

940
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 4: what that value was. I mean, jeez, there's a reason

941
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 4: why the guy would lead the league in third down

942
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 4: catches every year because he knows where are the sticks?

943
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 4: How do I get my depth? Let me get that reception.

944
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 4: Move the sticks. I don't need the fifteen point six

945
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 4: yards average, you know, yards perception, That's not what I need.

946
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 4: Look how many first downs I got.

947
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 2: It's never been him though.

948
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, you know what I.

949
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 1: Was thinking about this. You know, last year you lose

950
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 1: Mike and Keenan. So justin the weapons that he grew

951
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: up through the league with, he had every year, year

952
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: and year out of the security blank with Keenan did

953
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: not have that last year, And it took a while

954
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: for the chemistry between him and lad It didn't take long,

955
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: but it took a minute for them to really kind

956
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: of get on the same page and be he was

957
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,439
Speaker 1: kind of the keen and two point zero last year

958
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: towards the end of the year. Like the chemistry that

959
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: they had you could tell was built over time. Now

960
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: with Keenan back and that chemistry already established with Ladd,

961
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 1: I just think for Justin there's a lot more comfortable

962
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: comfortability with having Keenan and Ladd together. And and I'm

963
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: really intrigued to see how Greg Roman uses those guys

964
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: on the field together, especially on third down, because if

965
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: you put both those guys on on on the field

966
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: on third down and you got Kls going run on

967
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: a go route or you know some of these other guys,

968
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: you know, these these tight ends like Conklin and Gatson,

969
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: I think Justin could get really creative.

970
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think the one thing just quickly, Julian and

971
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 4: you can you can pay it quickly. I want to

972
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 4: point out I just pulled up his route tree from

973
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 4: last year. Uh understandably, most highest percentage was the out

974
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 4: for Keenan second most go how how is how is

975
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 4: Keenan's second most route run of freaking go route?

976
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: That's That's that.

977
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 4: But the second thing I was going to say, is

978
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 4: like the one thing about Lad because when you think

979
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 4: of slot, you know, you think of jitterbug and quick movements,

980
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 4: or you think of you know, the Keenan Ou in

981
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 4: power slot. Lad can run man. That's four to three guy.

982
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,240
Speaker 4: So you know that's that's the difference.

983
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 2: That's the difference. Money you hit it on the head,

984
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:09,720
Speaker 2: that's the difference.

985
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 3: Like Lad, you think about him and you're like, oh,

986
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 3: he's a he's a hundred refro type.

987
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: No, he's not right. Can you run those routes? Can

988
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 2: you run those jig roundes? Can you run those shape routes?

989
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 2: Can he find a soft zone? Yes?

990
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 3: But he can also take the top off we've see

991
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 3: in his yak yards last year. When he catches that thing,

992
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 3: he can get north and south right now, right, So

993
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 3: I'm I'm listen. Herbert has weapons and as a whole,

994
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 3: probably the most weapons.

995
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: He's had in his career.

996
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 3: If you look at it from Tyler right, Arande, then

997
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 3: Keenan Ladd, KLS, Trey, and QJ. I get it, Charge Nation,

998
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 3: I get it. But QJ is still a big physical

999
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 3: receiver that can run. Now the drops we'll see this year.

1000
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 3: I always I'm always listen. I'm a guy who wants

1001
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 3: to give people second chances. Listen, you have a chance

1002
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 3: to prove yourself. And I think this is his year too.

1003
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 3: He has to stamp himself. Talking about Quentin Johnson, he

1004
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 3: has to stamp himself. But he's another option as well.

1005
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 3: Like when you just look right bar injury knock on wood,

1006
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 3: Herbert has the most weapons that he's had in his career.

1007
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 2: Money.

1008
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: I have question for you about the wide receivers with

1009
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 1: with Quinton and then the and then the two rookies,

1010
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: because I think Jalil you laid it out in a

1011
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: way that I think is undeniable. Keen is going to

1012
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: get a lot of run on the other side of

1013
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: lad So the third wide receiver. You know, you obviously

1014
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: invest a second round and a fifth round pick on

1015
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: two rookies who were very promising this preseason. You also

1016
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: have Quinton there. How do you how do you dole

1017
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: out these snaps? Like is it a week the week thing?

1018
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: Is it just kind of it kind of plays itself out,

1019
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: you know, I like, what.

1020
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 2: Do you do?

1021
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's I don't think you're good.

1022
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 4: You're not keeping six receivers on on game day, You're

1023
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 4: just not like, that's not how the death works. It

1024
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 4: can't happen. And so I think I think they already

1025
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 4: showed us, right. They showed us in the RAM game

1026
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 4: when Q took that shot and he was taken off

1027
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 4: the field, who jogged on Andre Lambert Smith immediately and

1028
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 4: immediately delivered. So I think they've kind of shown us,

1029
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 4: you know, what it is. And so now later in

1030
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 4: that game, Trey Harris had you know, had to kind

1031
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 4: of had to come an out party and so that

1032
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 4: was that was great for him. And I still believe

1033
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 4: that both of those players can't contribute. I just I'm

1034
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 4: trying to figure out how the math. But it's just

1035
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 4: like putting the fifty three together, it's no different in

1036
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 4: putting your game day together and which five guys are

1037
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 4: going to be inactive and you're not kid with Darius

1038
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 4: Davis being active every single Sunday or Friday. In the

1039
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 4: case of Brazil, you're going to have one receiver inactive.

1040
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 4: And I think you made a great point, Julil. I

1041
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 4: think the way they've built this roster and I think

1042
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 4: it'll go the same way on game day is competitors welcome,

1043
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 4: you know, and if it's Q, and I think it'll

1044
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 4: probably be Q most of the time, then it'll be Q.

1045
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 4: But if for whatever reason, KeAndre Lambert Smith and Trey

1046
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 4: Harris are closing in and there's something going on there,

1047
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 4: you know, that's all this team cares about. Coach Harbad

1048
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 4: just said it two days ago. You know, to heck

1049
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 4: with winning Justin Herbert a playoff game. We're here to

1050
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 4: win the Super Bowl or die trying. And so that

1051
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 4: means I don't care what the number next to your

1052
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 4: name is when it says round drafted. I care about

1053
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 4: what you're going to do out there on the field

1054
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 4: and help ten. How do we help ten? And Tucker

1055
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 4: Fisk helps ten, and Amari and Hampton and Najie Harris

1056
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 4: and Hassan Haskins most definitely helped number ten. And so

1057
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 4: I think you're going to see a very similar thing

1058
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 4: over the course of the season, because there is going

1059
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 4: to be a wide receiver inactive every single week, and

1060
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 4: it'll be interesting to see if it's the same guy

1061
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 4: over and over again, or if that's you know, an

1062
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 4: opportunity for somebody to go up and snatch a spot.

1063
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: Julia before you go just is worth mentioning Trey Harris

1064
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: was off to the side in practice yesterday too, so again,

1065
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: they don't have to roll out an injury report till

1066
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: next week. But I think it's just that's noteworthy because

1067
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Speaker 1: he didn't play in the last game either.

1068
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure how big his injury is, but

1069
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 3: money you said it.

1070
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 2: If we're going number three on Friday, right next Friday.

1071
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 3: I'm going QJ, right, big fan of KALs, like big

1072
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,479
Speaker 3: fan Trey Harris, second round draft pick, came on late

1073
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,919
Speaker 3: social prominence and catches KLS is on qj's tail.

1074
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 2: Right.

1075
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 3: But I think obviously you talked about an investment first

1076
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 3: round draft pick, and this is the year where he

1077
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 3: has to basically prove himself and if not, they know

1078
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 3: that they have the young bucks in the wing that

1079
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 3: they can easily.

1080
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 2: Say, hey, it's your time. Right, So that's my three.

1081
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 3: I'm going with just off the bat, but it'll be

1082
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 3: exciting to see how they roll this thing.

1083
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: A couple more roster things and you know we'll close

1084
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: the final thought, let's get out of here.

1085
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 4: Tray's time today for the second Lance.

1086
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: Trey Lance is the backup dju is on the practice squad.

1087
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: Taylor Heineke was released. I you know, there was maybe

1088
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: some conversation about keeping three quarterbacks. I think that the

1089
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: move was was made, and I think it was the

1090
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: right move to keep Lances the backup quarterback. Any anything

1091
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 1: else regarding the quarterback or anything else, Julie that.

1092
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 5: You want to talk about, h No, I think that

1093
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 5: that was the right move when you look at Trey Lance,

1094
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 5: and I just want to condemn him right for you know,

1095
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 5: being a third third overall draft pick and the pressure

1096
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 5: that comes with being that and struggling, then having your

1097
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 5: backup come in and become the superstar of the organization

1098
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 5: and sign a big deal.

1099
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 2: Then you go to Dallas right where you pretty.

1100
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 3: Much know that you don't have a shot, right, and

1101
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 3: then he comes over here and it just seems like

1102
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 3: when he was in the game, he woned, he won,

1103
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 3: He won QB two. The design runs, the way he

1104
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 3: kept the drives alive with his feet, look comfortable in

1105
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 3: the pocket, made really good throws, and just to have

1106
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 3: people at home and it's playing in the NFL is

1107
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 3: it's not just physical, right, It's a lot of mental

1108
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 3: and the mental capacity that you have to have right

1109
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 3: to get over those hardships and adversity.

1110
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 2: What what Trey.

1111
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 3: Lance has done and as a as a young buck,

1112
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 3: he's only what twenty five to keep rolling and finding

1113
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 3: a system that looks like fits him.

1114
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 2: I tip my hat to him.

1115
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 4: Yeah. Nothing on the quarterbacks, Chris, I'm you know, I'm

1116
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 4: happy they kept DJ. I'm excited for them to continue

1117
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 4: to develop them. You know, I think the world of

1118
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 4: the young man and his family here in southern California,

1119
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 4: So I'm excited for that. I did not realize. I

1120
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 4: was not aware that that. I just assumed, because of

1121
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 4: his skill set, the five star rating coming out of

1122
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 4: high school, that he would have had a handful of

1123
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 4: UDFA invites. He didn't. He made this team on a tryout,

1124
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 4: on a local team tryout is how he got to

1125
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 4: the Chargers. So speaking to your you know your point, Juliel,

1126
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 4: of overcoming and kind of getting past those roadblocks that

1127
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 4: have been put in front of you, you know, just

1128
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 4: tip of the cap to DJ, who had a rough

1129
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 4: go at Florida State that final year after a solid

1130
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 4: season at Oregon State where he was able to kind

1131
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 4: of re establish himself following a disappointing season at Clemson

1132
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 4: and and I think the team's probably excited about developing him,

1133
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 4: and that's sort of what I think we're looking at,

1134
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 4: right if you can, if we can go through and

1135
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 4: let's click on the schedule real quick, just so I

1136
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 4: can kind of get a look at it, Like if

1137
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 4: you can get a handful of these games where you

1138
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 4: can put it on a team man, and you can

1139
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 4: get Tray out there on the fourth quarter and he can,

1140
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 4: you know, get out there and deal a little bit,

1141
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 4: which I hope they're I hope they have an opportunity

1142
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 4: to do that in a few of these. You know,

1143
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 4: let's just say it's two or three. If you can

1144
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 4: get two or three of those where he gets a quarter,

1145
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 4: even let's three's a lot. Let's go two because there

1146
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 4: aren't a lot of blowouts in the NFL. So if

1147
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 4: you can get two games where he can get out

1148
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 4: there and do his thing, you're talking to Everyone's like, oh,

1149
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 4: they should trade him. No, no, no, that they will trade him.

1150
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 4: The trade will be him getting the Baker Mayfield, the

1151
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 4: Sam Darnold, the Daniel Jones in Indianapolis contract become a

1152
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 4: starter and that becomes a third round pick, you know,

1153
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 4: in the Coppick formula, and that's that's the goal. And

1154
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 4: then if you can do it the next year with DJ,

1155
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 4: another year in the system under Shane Day, with Justin

1156
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 4: Herbert as your mentor, and now DJ gets out there

1157
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 4: and he's you know, with that freaking cannon that he's

1158
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 4: got and as young as he is, and he's showing

1159
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 4: out now in the preseason because we certainly saw some

1160
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 4: sweet throws from DJ in the preseason. You know, that's

1161
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 4: how you do it. Remember it was it was Ron

1162
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 4: Wolf's man. That's what he always did, right, He always

1163
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 4: drafted a quarterback. And next thing you know, you're getting

1164
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 4: a high pick for Matt Flynn, You're getting a high

1165
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 4: pick for Mark Brunell, You're getting a high Hasselback. You're

1166
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 4: getting a high pick for all of these quarterbacks that

1167
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 4: you're drafting, or you have this an undrafted free agent

1168
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 4: or a free agent, and that's that's what it's all about.

1169
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: I saw that the Seahawks are implementing Jalen Milroe in

1170
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: like a package. Would you do that with Trey Lance?

1171
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: But the thing is, if you have Justin Herbert as

1172
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: your quarterback, you don't want to keep Justin Herbert off

1173
00:53:58,640 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: the field.

1174
00:53:59,040 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: That's I think.

1175
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: That's the only.

1176
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 4: I think.

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00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 2: I also don't design the runs with them either.

1178
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do, I get it. I do. I want to.

1179
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 4: I want to see a little more Josh Allen out there.

1180
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:11,439
Speaker 1: Man.

1181
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 4: You know, I know it's easy for me to say,

1182
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 4: and I the guy that's got to take the hits,

1183
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,720
Speaker 4: but he's a freaking horse, dude. He's built like a horse,

1184
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 4: and so I would like to see it. And you know,

1185
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 4: when we had Greg Roman on what did he say?

1186
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 4: He's like, look, you know he kind of got he

1187
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 4: got into the weeds a little bit with Justin's injuries,

1188
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 4: Like we just never had that opportunity last year, you know,

1189
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 4: that planner and then the ankle. He's like, it was

1190
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 4: never in the conversation because of those two injuries straight

1191
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 4: out of the gate. He's like, but he goes, look,

1192
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 4: the reality is these guys get hurt in the pocket.

1193
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 4: If I can roll him out, then he can see

1194
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 4: it and he knows where the danger is. If I'm

1195
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 4: planting him in there, he does not know where the

1196
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 4: danger's coming from. He's like, so I've always you know,

1197
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 4: and look at his track record. I mean, you're talking

1198
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 4: about guys that he constantly has running and so that's

1199
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 4: that's just the philosophy of his That's.

1200
00:54:59,000 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 2: A good point he made.

1201
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 3: But because I remember, the stigma of Lamar Jackson was

1202
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 3: that he got injured a lot. And the crazy part

1203
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 3: about it, he never If you watch Lamar Jackson, he's

1204
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 3: never ever and it's a fact, been hurt outside of

1205
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 3: the pocket.

1206
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 4: Right.

1207
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 2: All his injuries have come from him being in the pocket.

1208
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, fact where it gets muddy and there's bodies everywhere

1209
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 4: and you can't see it coming. And so for a

1210
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 4: guy who's clocking in at six six two forty and

1211
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 4: is running a four five forty or low four six forty,

1212
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 4: let's go, dude, Let's let's get out there and let's

1213
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 4: mash some dudes. I'd love to see your replay of

1214
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 4: his first career start and he's not going a linebacker silly.

1215
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 1: Just like just slide slide, just like that was like,

1216
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: that's why Robert Griffin the thirds career was short. He

1217
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 1: couldn't well, every time he went out of the pocket.

1218
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 1: It was a disaster. He couldn't because he's.

1219
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 4: Six one two and fifteen pounds. You know. That's that

1220
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 4: that was the problem with RG three and you know.

1221
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 4: That's that's the big concern about Jayden Daniels is you

1222
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 4: know he is like the whole thing about Russell Wilson. Remember,

1223
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 4: they're like, oh, he's not gonna be able to keep that. Well,

1224
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson's built like a tank, you know. Same with

1225
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 4: Kyler Murray Goose. Yeah, they're squatty and they're strong, like

1226
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 4: Jade Daniels and RG three. These guys are slent there,

1227
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 4: narrow shouldered, slender guys, and so that's where and even

1228
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 4: you know, but it can be done because Lamar Jackson

1229
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 4: is that way, and that was the big concern, like,

1230
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 4: you can't have this guy running around the way he's built.

1231
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 4: And some guys are just a depth at it, you know.

1232
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 4: That's I had a coach one say to me that

1233
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson, they're like, Russell Wilson is Floyd Mayweather. He

1234
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 4: will never take a direct shot. The guy just knows

1235
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 4: how to get his body at the right angle to

1236
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 4: not take that shot. That's I'm sorry, Yeah.

1237
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: It's decision making. Yeah, we're talking about other teams, different

1238
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: eras guys. This is gonna be a fun year, man.

1239
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm happy for all the guys. Who made the fifty three.

1240
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: Now we can talk about the games starting next week

1241
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: in Brazil. I cannot believe we are eight days from

1242
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 1: the season over Bay year. I can't wait. Jalil, looking

1243
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: forward to having you throughout the year. My man Money,

1244
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: I will see you in Brazil next week.

1245
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 4: Brother, exactly right, travel Staates, go bolt off.

1246
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: Everybody, let's go for Jalil and Money. I'm Chris. This

1247
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: has been charges