Speaker 1: Warning, this podcast can take spoilers for Doctor Stranger, the
Speaker 1: Multiverse of Madness, and the Halo series, including the finale,
Speaker 1: so if you haven't caught up with those particular pieces
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Speaker 1: That's all. Thank you. Hello. My name is Jason Getsepsion
Speaker 1: and I'm currently in the throes of the novel coronavirus
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen, which I tested positive for last weekend and
Speaker 1: have been suffering symptoms of fromout a day before I
Speaker 1: had tested positive for it. All of which is to
Speaker 1: say this is going to be a crazy episode because
Speaker 1: not only am I suffering from the novel coronavirus COVID nineteen,
Speaker 1: but my brilliant co host, the best in the business, folks,
Speaker 1: the number one comics writer, pop historian in the game today,
Speaker 1: Rosie Night, Rosie, how are you?
Speaker 2: I also have novel coronavirus aka COVID nineteen, and somehow
Speaker 2: we didn't get this at the same place. We legitimately
Speaker 2: have not seen each other in public for a long time.
Speaker 1: In real good.
Speaker 3: Point, Rosie, because here's what I have this happened.
Speaker 1: You can read the news and the COVID.
Speaker 3: Is rampant right now, people wear your masks.
Speaker 1: I've been to numerous places over the last you know,
Speaker 1: the last week in the zone when I could have
Speaker 1: gotten it, and I was always one of like the
Speaker 1: five percent of people. They're wearing a mask. It ain't
Speaker 1: gone away, folks. And this time it's crazy. This is
Speaker 1: my second go round with COVID nineteen the novel Coronavirus.
Speaker 1: The first time I basically just slept for like eighteen
Speaker 1: hours and then like two days later I felt fine.
Speaker 1: This time, like Terminator two or Aliens or Godfather too.
Speaker 1: The sequel is much more potent than the original, and
Speaker 1: I feel like I got a fucking house dropped on me.
Speaker 1: How do you feel, Rosie, I would.
Speaker 2: Concur This is not my first time having COVID, seeing
Speaker 2: as we all living through a global pandemic in busy cities.
Speaker 3: But this is the worst time.
Speaker 2: I have been haunting my house like a fucking sickened ghost.
Speaker 3: That I have a FEVA every day. It is like
Speaker 3: you said, it is.
Speaker 2: It's truly like the James Cameron's Aliens to Ridley Scott's Alien.
Speaker 2: The first one was like a brain foggy, slow lucid experience.
Speaker 2: This is like space marine shooting you with then with
Speaker 2: a big space gun.
Speaker 1: It's very bad, folks. It's snarley. Don't get it, and
Speaker 1: we say ask be safe and take care of yourselves
Speaker 1: and other people and other people around you who, for
Speaker 1: reasons not having to do with ignorance, perhaps can't get
Speaker 1: the numerous vaccines that are out there because of the
Speaker 1: previous metal conditions, the fact that they're compromised, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Those people are living in a state of constant fear,
Speaker 1: and we can, we can, we can make their plight
Speaker 1: a little bit less stressful by hopefully getting vaccinated. If
Speaker 1: you're not vaccinated by now, I'm not sure what happened.
Speaker 1: But also just wearing your mask because it's out here, folks,
Speaker 1: it's out here. I saw Paul McCartney at I saw
Speaker 1: Paul McCartney. That's so fi and again one of like
Speaker 1: one of like five percent of the people there who
Speaker 1: was wearing a mask. So it's out it's it's it
Speaker 1: is here, folks. And also anecdotally, as this very podcast
Speaker 1: episode recording proves, I've even like when it was pre vaccines,
Speaker 1: when when it was like really really really really scary,
Speaker 1: I didn't know this many people like that had it,
Speaker 1: So I know so many people that have it right
Speaker 1: now or had it last week or two weeks ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going around.
Speaker 2: And and I don't really go out many places or
Speaker 2: go and do big socializing things just to protect my
Speaker 2: own health. And I always wear a mask and I
Speaker 2: still got it. So just everybody's getting it. It's it's
Speaker 2: good to just take care. And it's hard right now
Speaker 2: because the way that the numbers are being reported and
Speaker 2: the fact that a lot of people are testing at
Speaker 2: home means we won't necessarily see those numbers in the
Speaker 2: same way we did in other waves.
Speaker 3: So it's just really good.
Speaker 2: To follow you got and be thoughtful for your own
Speaker 2: sake and other people's. And because this is very gnolly,
Speaker 2: you don't want to be sittin a sweating like us
Speaker 2: talking about I know.
Speaker 1: Well, great, great transition, because let's do that in today's episode.
Speaker 1: In the previously on, we're going to talk about a
Speaker 1: bunch of news from this week, headlined by the the
Speaker 1: she Hulk trailer drops. The delightful She Hulk trailer drop.
Speaker 1: We will talk about the Halo finale and the fact
Speaker 1: that Master Chief popped his cherry he did it and
Speaker 1: people aren't necessarily happy about it. We will talk about
Speaker 1: some other news, and then we will go to the airlock,
Speaker 1: where we will talk about when you're sick and you're
Speaker 1: sitting at home, what do you watch, what do you read,
Speaker 1: what do you do to just kind of comfort you
Speaker 1: through it? And that's that's in our air lock section.
Speaker 1: Of course, as always, if you want to jump around,
Speaker 1: check out the time stamps in the show notes. First up,
Speaker 1: let's go to the news. The She Hulk trailer. She
Speaker 1: Hulk Attorney a law She's barred, folks, She's a barred
Speaker 1: attorney at New York State. It's Jennifer Walter's cousin of
Speaker 1: our good friend Bruce Banner. The show starring Tatiana Mazlani
Speaker 1: as Jennifer Walters, Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner, Hello, Tim
Speaker 1: Roth as Emil Blonsky, Benedict Wong as Wong, and others.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about this trailer, which is absolutely super super fun, delight.
Speaker 1: Here's my first takeaway. Hulk's arm is fine. Therefore, this
Speaker 1: is pre end game. Therefore we're going to fill in
Speaker 1: the stuff clearly post snap, and that is Bruce Banner's
Speaker 1: you know, post Ragnarok journey to becoming Professor Hulk, We're
Speaker 1: going to see some of that timeline filled in and
Speaker 1: that is super super cool and awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to talk about that, because like if
Speaker 2: you if you're not like us and you don't be
Speaker 2: pausing the trailer and everything.
Speaker 3: You might be like, what are you talking about? But
Speaker 3: this is it.
Speaker 2: In Endgame, we met Professor Holk, who explained that he
Speaker 2: was a new version of Banner and Hulk combined.
Speaker 3: He was not a third entity. He was who he is.
Speaker 3: He's he's an intelligent adream and the bridge together exactly.
Speaker 2: And he's looking hunky and I'm sure some people on
Speaker 2: the internet are calling.
Speaker 3: Him Daddy Jeez. And then at the end of.
Speaker 2: Shang Chi, we saw Bruce Banner in his human form.
Speaker 2: We had a sling on his arm because in Endgame
Speaker 2: we saw him, we saw Holk wheeled the Infinity Gauntlet
Speaker 2: and do the snap and it really messed up his arm.
Speaker 2: So in the modern continuity, we know that Bruce is
Speaker 2: back in his normal human body and he has an
Speaker 2: arm sling in this trailer is Jason so smartly noticed
Speaker 2: he is Professor Holk and his arms are looking fine.
Speaker 3: So it is very very likely that.
Speaker 2: This is going to be in that period between Infinity
Speaker 2: War and Endgame, which is something we have yet to see.
Speaker 1: Another thing we're gonna see. I think we can deduce
Speaker 1: from this wonderful again trailer. There's the part of the
Speaker 1: trailer in which you know, one of the heads of
Speaker 1: the law firm that Jennifer works for says, hey, we
Speaker 1: want to start a superhero division, which is directly a
Speaker 1: very much a comics thing. Like Jennifer's specialty is powered incidents,
Speaker 1: you know, cases involving or related to people with powers.
Speaker 1: And we remember from Shang Xi right that that Emil Blonski,
Speaker 1: the Abomination in his comics accurate form, was doing fights
Speaker 1: for money against Wong and we're like, holy shit, wasn't
Speaker 1: he like in jail? Wasn't he in Super People Jail?
Speaker 1: And we see him in this trailer when when the
Speaker 1: the you know, one of the law partners mentions, hey,
Speaker 1: we want to start superhero a superpowered person's division. I
Speaker 1: think this is how he gets out. I think I
Speaker 1: think Jennifer, and honestly rightly so, I think you would
Speaker 1: make the argument that, like, hey, we can't hold this
Speaker 1: guy forever like it's actually, yes, he's theoretically a weapon
Speaker 1: of mass destruction, but there's other powered people out there
Speaker 1: now who are also similarly powerful. And what what does
Speaker 1: it mean legally that we can just like hold this
Speaker 1: guy ad infinitum. And I think that's how Emil Blanski
Speaker 1: gets his freedom or whatever whatever status he has by
Speaker 1: shang Chi, where he's able to come and go at will.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 2: Also, I think that the cell that we see in
Speaker 2: this trailer, that that we see Jennifer in when she's
Speaker 2: testing her Hulk powers, that looks very similar to where
Speaker 2: we see Abomination walk back.
Speaker 3: Into during shang Chi.
Speaker 2: So I think that I think that Bruce, whatever part
Speaker 2: of Bruce's life this is, it's going to be important
Speaker 2: and foundational to the notion of whatever's going on in
Speaker 2: the current continuity. We know that Sword was set up,
Speaker 2: you know, within this there was that was a really
Speaker 2: big time for Sword after and we found out about
Speaker 2: all the plans that they were making because of what
Speaker 2: had happened because of the blips. So it wouldn't surprise
Speaker 2: me if some of the things that we thought we
Speaker 2: were going to see or we thought we were seeing
Speaker 2: being established with shang Chi like Dark Avengers, et cetera.
Speaker 2: If those things might have already been in the works
Speaker 2: during this five years, and am we going to kind
Speaker 2: of retroactively learn about them and see how they could
Speaker 2: come into play in the y to MCU, what.
Speaker 1: Else do we see? Let's talk about this. So we
Speaker 1: see in the opening shots, we see a car tumbling
Speaker 1: down the hill. Now, in the comics, Jennifer gets her
Speaker 1: powers because she needs a blood transfusion from know she
Speaker 1: has a particular blood type, and so they go to
Speaker 1: a relative, and of course Bruce Banner is the relative,
Speaker 1: and the side effect of him donating blood to his
Speaker 1: cousin is that the gamma radiation in his blood also
Speaker 1: gets into Jen's body and she reacts in a very
Speaker 1: similar way to Bruce and becomes the shields. Now, in
Speaker 1: the comics, it's gangsters shoot her because of her legal
Speaker 1: activities and she requires this blood transfusions. I think it's
Speaker 1: going to be I think clearly it's going to be
Speaker 1: an accident rather than gangs, which anyway is like I
Speaker 1: think Punisher like debut like two years before that, so
Speaker 1: it's like they just like reused the Punisher's origin.
Speaker 2: Like everyone's family's being killed by gangsters.
Speaker 3: No, I think you're right in something.
Speaker 2: That our super producer Sauw was saying when we were
Speaker 2: prepping for this episode was like Hawk Eyed did something
Speaker 2: really interesting where it tied Kate Bishop's origin and her
Speaker 2: tragic backstory directly into events of the MCU, And that
Speaker 2: definitely feels like something we could see here.
Speaker 3: But from the.
Speaker 2: Tone of the show, which is like very eighties and
Speaker 2: funny and kind of like feels a bit more lighthearted
Speaker 2: than a lot of the other stuff we've gotten, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised to see them play with that kind
Speaker 2: of fan favorite conversation about like collateral damage, which is
Speaker 2: like not something we've really seen very much. They touched
Speaker 2: on it in the Netflix stuff, But I wouldn't be
Speaker 2: surprised if her accident was like something got thrown and
Speaker 2: hit a wall and then it fell on her.
Speaker 3: During an event just happened or something exactly.
Speaker 1: It's like the.
Speaker 2: Snap an ice cream van had a guy who wasn't driving,
Speaker 2: and I just think, like, this show seems to be
Speaker 2: going into that humor and it's it's if it's gonna
Speaker 2: be like the comics. She's always been a very meta
Speaker 2: fourth wall breaking character. So to have a little bit
Speaker 2: of that conversation with the audience and say, well, this
Speaker 2: is kind of what it's like for normal people who
Speaker 2: live in the MCU. You might not even end up
Speaker 2: being normal because your cousin's got gamma blood.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about one of the real surprises in this trailer,
Speaker 1: which is the very very brief shot of Frogmen from
Speaker 1: I did not know this was gonna happen.
Speaker 3: I cannot believe this happened. I am sure.
Speaker 1: Tell us who tell us about Frogman. Frogman, very very
Speaker 1: minor character that I maintain was at least in some
Speaker 1: form a like esthetic influence on the Teenage Mutant Ninja journals.
Speaker 1: I yeah claim that I have no evidence for that,
Speaker 1: but I claim.
Speaker 2: That the truth is that all those I mean, TMNT
Speaker 2: is like one of my favorite topics, and all of
Speaker 2: those comics, the original Black and White Stuff, which is
Speaker 2: very dark and very funny, was an absolute response to
Speaker 2: Marvel and DC and big superhero comics. So that would
Speaker 2: make a lot of sense, especially when you think about
Speaker 2: the fact that, like in Teenage Mutant Ninja titles, for example,
Speaker 2: the bad group is called it's called the foot Clan
Speaker 2: instead of the Hand you know, and.
Speaker 3: Stuff like that. So it's very It was like a self.
Speaker 2: Published kind of shit post comic, and I love that
Speaker 2: it became this team this like Kid's powerhouse. But yes, Frogman,
Speaker 2: it is with a hyphen like spider Man, so don't
Speaker 2: spell it wrong or else the comic fans might get
Speaker 2: upset with you.
Speaker 3: Created by JM. D.
Speaker 2: Matteas and Kerry Gamil from a Marvel Team Up issue
Speaker 2: Marvel Team Up one one June nineteen eighty two, which I.
Speaker 1: Believe those were fun man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that puts it between that. I think that
Speaker 2: puts it before the first yeah, two years before the
Speaker 2: first Ninja title's comics, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And also like Eugene, the frog Man's Eugene identity, Eugene's
Speaker 1: like fifteen. This is why I claim that Frogman is
Speaker 1: an influence onto you. But like again, I have no
Speaker 1: I'm saying that.
Speaker 2: Kevin Eastman on it to talk about this local legend. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so yes, his mother is called Rosie. Shout out to me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he basically makes like he is like a kid
Speaker 2: who wants to be a villain, and it is like
Speaker 2: really weird and strange, and he could definitely one of
Speaker 2: those weird characters from the seventies and eighties where you're just.
Speaker 3: Like, how did this get in there?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like he actually payspot pete, like the kind of
Speaker 1: level character I have to say.
Speaker 3: This actually, and basically he is, like.
Speaker 2: He's one of those characters who's so out there and
Speaker 2: weird if you're a comic book occasionally, if you're like,
Speaker 2: if like me and Jason got to write a comic,
Speaker 2: we would be pulling these.
Speaker 3: Weird characters that we love. So he pops up.
Speaker 2: Like he's in Secret Invasion, you know, as a scroll
Speaker 2: he's he's in like you see these.
Speaker 1: Different crazy by the way, hilarious pull in Secret Invasion the.
Speaker 2: Scroll and then like, I mean, he's definitely I think
Speaker 2: there's there's character.
Speaker 3: There's creators now.
Speaker 2: Who remember him fondly because he pops up a lot, and.
Speaker 3: To see him here.
Speaker 2: They they do a really good job kind of recontextualizing
Speaker 2: the costume, which in the comics is like very cartoony.
Speaker 2: In in the trailer, as we see it, it looks
Speaker 2: kind of like a Super Sentai costume, like a like
Speaker 2: a Power Rangers costume. Meets Vigilante from the recently released
Speaker 2: peace Maker show that we talked a lot about, So
Speaker 2: I'm very interested to see my gut says he will
Speaker 2: be someone that she represents. That seems to be the
Speaker 2: only way to easily ul him into the show unless
Speaker 2: he is actually secretly the villain and Titania is like
Speaker 2: gonna be an ally instead.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned Titania Uh played by Jimmy La Jamil.
Speaker 1: She is we assume, gonna be the big bad of
Speaker 1: the series and is a frequent foil for she Hulk
Speaker 1: over the years. Now, Titana in the comics gets her
Speaker 1: powers from Doctor DOOMO it.
Speaker 3: Will be dun dunn dunt dun duh.
Speaker 1: It will be absolutely I fascinated to know where she
Speaker 1: gets her powers this time.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also in the comics, one more connection with the Well.
Speaker 1: First of all, She Hulk was a member of the
Speaker 1: Fantastic Four, so there's that. And then also she Hulk
Speaker 1: represented Doctor Doom's son in his attempt to basically flea
Speaker 1: lat Varia and become an American citizen. So there are
Speaker 1: a lot of really cool Doctor Doom connections and it
Speaker 1: just feels like I once again we're inching inching towards
Speaker 1: a Fantastic four canonical debut. The fact that we saw
Speaker 1: John Krasinski as Richard's nonwithstanding.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I totally agree. I think it's a really
Speaker 2: interesting poll. Obviously, she is like a really famous shock villain,
Speaker 2: and it makes sense because they're obviously going for kind
Speaker 2: of like an Ali McBeal vibe, so it makes sense
Speaker 2: to give her like a female antagonist. But I wouldn't
Speaker 2: be surprised if we saw some kind of implication of
Speaker 2: like a powerbroker.
Speaker 3: Sort like where did she get this power?
Speaker 1: Great?
Speaker 3: How could she get it?
Speaker 2: Also in the comics, like even though it's kind of
Speaker 2: a wacky origin during the Secret Wars stuff that I
Speaker 2: think it's Secret Wars three where she's introduced, it's actually
Speaker 2: like bad she does get tested on and has is
Speaker 2: kind of what could definitely be be written as like
Speaker 2: a tragic backstory or a reason to be pissed off
Speaker 2: at people, or reason to kind of want to become
Speaker 2: a villain. So I think there's interesting stuff to dig
Speaker 2: into there, and I think it's really interesting that in
Speaker 2: this the first trailer for the show, it's just this
Speaker 2: kind of like glimpse of a fight. So I'm really
Speaker 2: interested to see where they go because I feel like
Speaker 2: the MCU is definitely blurring the lines between like good
Speaker 2: guys and bad guys and kind of that gray area
Speaker 2: between Ally and antagonist, and I think that relationship could
Speaker 2: be prime for that. And the fact that Wong is
Speaker 2: going to be in this show and we know that
Speaker 2: he is connected to a nomination, He's connected to whatever
Speaker 2: this secret team he's kind of trying to put together.
Speaker 2: He's like the new Phase four Nick Fury, which I like.
Speaker 1: I love that at some point we should discuss the
Speaker 1: fact that comic Swang currently is great. Movie Wong is
Speaker 1: orders of magnitude the best Wong. It's not even close
Speaker 1: to how cool, how much cooler.
Speaker 2: He is in the movies then in the and I
Speaker 2: think you can absolutely one Benedict Wong shout out that's
Speaker 2: like all you great, like you're killing it. And I
Speaker 2: think that you can't understate his impact on why the
Speaker 2: comic book Wong is better, because like these movies and
Speaker 2: comics are so intertwined, and when you have such a
Speaker 2: brilliant in depth, like thoughtful, funny, silly, strong, brilliant character,
Speaker 2: and I know that some people were definitely also like
Speaker 2: becoming like thirsty for Wong after Doctor Strange too.
Speaker 3: I've seen the internet.
Speaker 2: I never feeling it like he had a new outfit,
Speaker 2: he was looking good and like I just yeah, I
Speaker 2: love it and I love that it's up the game.
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, they've done a really great job recontextualizing
Speaker 2: that orientalist aspect. Yes, so it's so key to like
Speaker 2: the older Doctor Strange stuff.
Speaker 1: There might be some of our listeners out there like, oh,
Speaker 1: she I love the trailer. I'm getting into comic. What
Speaker 1: can I read? It's super super easy read Dan Slott's
Speaker 1: She Hulk The Complete Collection. This is story by Dan Slot,
Speaker 1: Audi ground Off on cover art, also Paul Peltier and
Speaker 1: Scott Collins on art. It kind of like set the
Speaker 1: modern tone for She Hulk as a character in the
Speaker 1: early two thousands, as this kind of like one time
Speaker 1: shy lawyer who has become this very like super confident,
Speaker 1: hard charging work, hard play hard character who's like who
Speaker 1: is in a lot of ways like a focus point
Speaker 1: for the female superhero community, Like she has so many
Speaker 1: friends across the female superhero community, which is part of
Speaker 1: what makes that that collection so fun. Is just like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've said this many times. I'm a big fan of
Speaker 1: like superheroes just hang out stories, and there's so many
Speaker 1: scenes in that collection where it's just like Jen just
Speaker 1: hanging out with her friends.
Speaker 3: Also because she's one of.
Speaker 2: The few, she's one of like the few heroes aside
Speaker 2: from like the Fantastic Four, So she's gonna be one
Speaker 2: of the first MCU heroes who has like a full
Speaker 2: time job. She's not just like bumming around like somehow
Speaker 2: not getting paid for being an avenger.
Speaker 3: She has like a full time job.
Speaker 2: So that leads to a lot of funny kind of
Speaker 2: slice of life sitting around stuff. And I mean in
Speaker 2: that Dance Loot collection, Titania is like a major antagonist.
Speaker 3: So you're looking for there you have.
Speaker 2: The new poster that they just released is almost certainly
Speaker 2: based on one of Greg Horn's covers, which is actually
Speaker 2: the back of the collection, which is her kind of
Speaker 2: striding up these stairs, you know, and and the and
Speaker 2: the the visualization that they've gone for as Tatiana as
Speaker 2: she is very much that Greg Horn kind of vibe.
Speaker 2: She's she's big, but she's like shape plea and she's
Speaker 2: kind of athletic and so it's very interesting to see that.
Speaker 1: So there's that. So there's the Shell collect her by
Speaker 1: Dan Slot Complete Collection. This collects like she hoped one
Speaker 1: to twelve and I think a couple maybe an annual
Speaker 1: or something like that, and then she hulked the complete collection.
Speaker 1: A more recent a more recent collection by Charles Sewell,
Speaker 1: Javier Plito and Munsa of Vicente, And that one is
Speaker 1: just super super funny. Charles Sewell was a lawyer, so
Speaker 1: he's got all the lingo down and it's That's another
Speaker 1: one where it's like.
Speaker 3: Jen hanging out with Hellcat, you know, like Jena, like.
Speaker 2: Her friendship with Patsy is so great and I do
Speaker 2: I love it. That's gonna be something that plays.
Speaker 1: In That's okay, So I have a prediction. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be We know, our listeners know how much we love
Speaker 1: to make predictions and we don't care if they're wrong.
Speaker 1: We just love to do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just fun.
Speaker 1: Here's so much of like the texture of Jennifer Walter
Speaker 1: stories is about the role she plays in the broader
Speaker 1: superhero community and her friendship and bonds with various figures
Speaker 1: throughout the female superhero community. I think we're going to
Speaker 1: see more than frogmen debut. I think we might see others.
Speaker 1: I think we might because, like, if you think about
Speaker 1: it superhero division, I get that there's a lot of like,
Speaker 1: you know, property damage and loss of life from the
Speaker 1: various superhero incidents around the world. Who could forget Hulk
Speaker 1: fucking up Harlem and every place he goes, you know,
Speaker 1: But there's when you talk about the community, it's not
Speaker 1: like there's that many, you know, like, there's not that
Speaker 1: many folks that she could rep. She could represent uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Bruce Banner in the various lawsuits that are
Speaker 1: probably lodged against him for destroying you know, uh, Betty's College, Harlem,
Speaker 1: et cetera. There's uh yeah, but there's not that many
Speaker 1: she yet. She could get ant Man like his charges dropped,
Speaker 1: et cetera.
Speaker 3: But there's not like that many. There's really not that.
Speaker 1: Many superheroes yet. So I do wonder if we might
Speaker 1: not if the Frogman drop isn't a signal that hey,
Speaker 1: all those like really really fun, rarely used minor minor
Speaker 1: minor Marvel characters, we might see some of them pop
Speaker 1: up here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that you're right, and I also think
Speaker 2: this is going to continue the Hawkeye tradition, not just
Speaker 2: in tone, but in branding and reshaping the Netflix Marvel
Speaker 2: shows as something for.
Speaker 3: The main MCU.
Speaker 2: It's quite likely we might see Matt Murdock here. He
Speaker 2: too is a lawyer, and him and Jennifer have worked
Speaker 2: alongside each other and something else that you just made
Speaker 2: me realize when we're talking about this. It could work
Speaker 2: as it could work in the same way the Netflix
Speaker 2: shows worked, which is when you actually watch those shows,
Speaker 2: they introduced so many comic book characters because they needed
Speaker 2: like a living community like Luke Cage, so many characters,
Speaker 2: and no MCU show has really done that. Hawkeye used
Speaker 2: names of characters, but it wasn't actually they didn't become
Speaker 2: those characters as we knew them. She could be a
Speaker 2: way of introducing a new I mean, if they wanted
Speaker 2: to do it like a procedural, you could have a
Speaker 2: new character that she's looking after every week, you know,
Speaker 2: and it would be a way to build out that community.
Speaker 2: It would be very funny, kind of funny. And some
Speaker 2: of them, you know, you have her defending a hero,
Speaker 2: you have her defending a villain, you have a kind
Speaker 2: of building that moral compass and like that the Charles
Speaker 2: Saul run that you were talking about with Havia as
Speaker 2: amazing art, Like that's the one where she defends the
Speaker 2: son of Doctor Doom and she and Captain America. Yes,
Speaker 2: you know, so there's all different kinds of ways that
Speaker 2: you can explore that. And I think that looking to
Speaker 2: those two, this one has her face down with Matt Murdoch,
Speaker 2: like Deadpool is in this, and there's a holiday party,
Speaker 2: so you get that fun space. I just think this
Speaker 2: could be a launch pad for building out those weirder,
Speaker 2: smaller superhero roles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again I wonder if we it'd be cool
Speaker 1: to get a hellcare drop in this. Hellcat one of
Speaker 1: the oldest Marvel character. I mean, going back to the forties,
Speaker 1: like this is like as like fucking Marvel fashion.
Speaker 3: Fashion cocks really incredible times.
Speaker 2: People forget those old days when women were seen as
Speaker 2: a as a truly large part half of the market.
Speaker 2: So they had romance comics, they had fashion comics, and
Speaker 2: that's where Patsy Walker, who became Patsy Walker Hellcat came from.
Speaker 2: And she was in the Jessica Jones show in a
Speaker 2: kind of reimagined version, But this version of she Hulks
Speaker 2: seems like a better place to to bring in a
Speaker 2: different version of her. There was a she Cat. There
Speaker 2: was a hell Cat comic with incredible art by Brittany
Speaker 2: Williams a few years ago, and that was very much
Speaker 2: like Sheahawks having a party at the office and like,
Speaker 2: look at all these different characters who are here, and
Speaker 2: oh no, who are you gonna have to defend?
Speaker 3: Is it gonna be?
Speaker 1: Like? That's what I love about Seahawks stories. And that's
Speaker 1: why I hope, and that's why I sit because it
Speaker 1: is really such an important part of the texture and
Speaker 1: fuels Jennifer Walter stories, and so you know, selfishly, I
Speaker 1: just hope we see a lot of I think.
Speaker 2: The tone of the trailer up it hints at that.
Speaker 2: It hints like her and Bruce in the bar. There's
Speaker 2: like a comedy and she obviously a climate just like
Speaker 2: in the comic. She acclimates very well to being in
Speaker 2: her She hoped form because that's how she chooses to be. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it looks like from the trailer that's going to
Speaker 2: be the case for most of the show.
Speaker 1: Well, we can't wait for this one up next. Let's
Speaker 1: welcome in our super producer Chris to talk about the
Speaker 1: Halo series and the finale of the Halo series, which
Speaker 1: recently aired on Paramount Plus. Chris, there, tell us about Halo.
Speaker 5: I have to say, overall, it was a little bit disappointing.
Speaker 4: I know, we were all pretty optimistic after the first episode, like, okay,
Speaker 4: the covenentary here they're teasing, like the conflicts with the colonies,
Speaker 4: the unsc are, the kind of the.
Speaker 5: Bad guys, Like there is potential.
Speaker 4: And I have to say that in the whole series,
Speaker 4: about twenty minutes like really good Halo stuff in there.
Speaker 5: But those twenty minutes, I have to say, are really good.
Speaker 1: I here is my takeaway. I haven't watched the finale yet,
Speaker 1: but I've watched like the first five episodes. My takeaway
Speaker 1: is that very very clearly eighty percent of the budget
Speaker 1: went to the pilot and then yeah, immediately thereafter, it
Speaker 1: fucking falls off in terms of like scope, in terms
Speaker 1: of what they're and and the storytelling kind of takes
Speaker 1: a hit after that. So when you say not a
Speaker 1: lot of quote unquote Halo stuff, what do you what
Speaker 1: do you? What do you mean?
Speaker 4: Like, you know, I think there's always a question of
Speaker 4: why even adapt, Like what more can you really gain
Speaker 4: out of doing a film when the games are pretty cinematic.
Speaker 4: I think the one big thing you can do is
Speaker 4: you can show just what incredible soldiers and fighters and
Speaker 4: like combatants everyone is, all these Spartans are. That's more
Speaker 4: than just a first person POV holding a gun. You know,
Speaker 4: like these fights should look you know, crazy, you know,
Speaker 4: I mean, like maybe not quite the Raid, which is like,
Speaker 4: you know, we talked about like what is actually.
Speaker 2: The TV show tried to look like the Raid? That
Speaker 2: would make me very.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just like let's see, like let's really see like
Speaker 4: great fight choreography, and the first episode to get a
Speaker 4: bit of that, as you do in five. Then the finale,
Speaker 4: like finale, you finally get you know, Silver Team, the
Speaker 4: four Spartans going up against this massive wave of Covenant
Speaker 4: you know, almost feels like like the firefight situation on
Speaker 4: like ODST like Horde mode, Hord mode exactly, yeah, like
Speaker 4: and it's honestly like, the fight's really good, and they
Speaker 4: finally bring in a little bit of the Halo theme,
Speaker 4: which I think is just like one of the coolest themes.
Speaker 4: I absolutely love it so much. And it's it's really
Speaker 4: really fun And yeah, Jason, your point, you feel like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is where they spent all the budget was like
Speaker 4: on these like three really big epic fight sequences. You know,
Speaker 4: in episode five, we see I think it's John, we
Speaker 4: see one of the Spartans like jump on top of
Speaker 4: a bansheet. Right, It's like, okay, like this is point
Speaker 4: except from the game that's really un exciting.
Speaker 5: You know for those that have read those books, you.
Speaker 4: Know, the Eric Nyland novels, which you've talked about, there's
Speaker 4: a lot of really great lore in there, and they
Speaker 4: just kind of jettisoned all of that. Like I really
Speaker 4: wanted to see the Spartans as a kind of family, yea.
Speaker 5: Like one of the tragedies of reading those books is whenever.
Speaker 4: They lose one of their soldiers, like you know, they're
Speaker 4: kind of programmed to be emotionally uneffective.
Speaker 5: You can tell it hurts them when they lose one
Speaker 5: of their own.
Speaker 4: And they didn't really go there either, Like that could
Speaker 4: have been a really great heart of the story, and
Speaker 4: I feel like they kind of skirted around that for
Speaker 4: just a lot of really generic and room conversations.
Speaker 1: Something else that is kind of not haloy is. Master
Speaker 1: Chief got his dick wet.
Speaker 3: Master Chief the cherry, the cherry got popped.
Speaker 1: He got out of his armor and got into something
Speaker 1: a lot more comfortable.
Speaker 3: And the reason that fans.
Speaker 1: Are upset, like hardcore, you know, the fans who have
Speaker 1: read the books and are up on the lore is
Speaker 1: is part of the Spartan The Spartan training program is
Speaker 1: fucking brutal. Like when you read the Nyland books, you're like,
Speaker 1: holy shit, this is terrible they did. It's terrible what
Speaker 1: they did to these kids to train them to be
Speaker 1: these uh super soldiers. And part of that is they
Speaker 1: injected them with various steroids and drugs. And part of
Speaker 1: that medical regimen was, uh that their sex drive was
Speaker 1: you know, medicinally depressed. It was like basically like lowered
Speaker 1: to nothing because they didn't want Spartans having any kind
Speaker 1: of like emotional and or physical connection to anyone. They
Speaker 1: just wanted them to be like killing machines and uh.
Speaker 1: And then guess what master Chief had sex the show?
Speaker 1: How was it? Did you did you were you? Were
Speaker 1: you upset by it as a Halo fan? And how
Speaker 1: is you know what did we see what happened there.
Speaker 4: I mean, I it felt a little bit out of character,
Speaker 4: but I wasn't upset about it. I'm like, Okay, I
Speaker 4: get what they're doing.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: They's like, Okay, I get what they're trying to do here.
Speaker 4: They're trying to give him a romance with this other
Speaker 4: character McKee. You know, I'm never going to complain about
Speaker 4: Pablo Schreiver being naked, which is a few times in
Speaker 4: this year congratulation, looking great, looking absolutely.
Speaker 3: Happy to see a bum Yeah.
Speaker 4: As was I like, there's something you're too except as budshots,
Speaker 4: they're fantastic. So from that respect, I've like, okay, I'm
Speaker 4: on board with this. It definitely didn't make me upset.
Speaker 4: It just felt a little bit, i don't know, kind
Speaker 4: of unnecessary. It definite felt a little bit out of character.
Speaker 4: And it's like, it's not going to make me angry
Speaker 4: that they change things. Like this part of an adaptation,
Speaker 4: you gotta change things. But I didn't think it necessarily
Speaker 4: added a lot to the story.
Speaker 2: It sounds like it's actually a bit of a missed
Speaker 2: opportunity because that's such a tragic and kind of brutal
Speaker 2: bit of law that they could have done a scene
Speaker 2: where it's like an intimacy scene that isn't to do
Speaker 2: with fucking, and that could have been like a really
Speaker 2: interesting and motive way to explore like that side of
Speaker 2: the past, and that.
Speaker 1: Kind of actually a great Yeah, it's actually a really
Speaker 1: great and tragic plot device where it's like you know,
Speaker 1: he he can't like, yeah, he can't do that. You
Speaker 1: find other ways of being intimate like that.
Speaker 2: I think that's a shape that kind of like it's
Speaker 2: I really like the first couple of episodes, I felt
Speaker 2: like it was like really ambitious, weird sci fi storytelling.
Speaker 2: But I just think it's a shame because I think
Speaker 2: like if you can't keep that going for those little
Speaker 2: moments when you could do something that's really like emotionally
Speaker 2: powerful like that, then it you.
Speaker 3: Know, does it hit basically like you said, did it
Speaker 3: left you?
Speaker 2: You watched it and you were like, eh, nice.
Speaker 5: To see it, but like yeah, it just felt generic,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 4: And I think that was the big disappointment this the
Speaker 4: series is that for me, Halo's never felt generic. It's
Speaker 4: always been kind of special, and like the Master Chief,
Speaker 4: despite being kind of like kind of a.
Speaker 5: Blank canvas, has always felt special. Too, and this was
Speaker 5: just like.
Speaker 2: Eh, is there anything that you would want to see
Speaker 2: them do in like a second season that would redeem
Speaker 2: it or like interesting exploring.
Speaker 4: I'm not like totally writing it off, you know, like
Speaker 4: every series takes a little bit of time to get
Speaker 4: its footing, and if they are going to push it
Speaker 4: more towards like those sort of battle sequences like we
Speaker 4: saw here, maybe fewer episodes, bigger scope and scale, more
Speaker 4: fight with the Covenant, which requires more budget than I
Speaker 4: actually think there is some potential here. It's like there
Speaker 4: was just enough here for me to want to keep
Speaker 4: going and be a little bit disappointed. But I would say, like,
Speaker 4: you know, I can't say it's any better than any
Speaker 4: other Halo thing. They can't be like, hey, like dedicated
Speaker 4: nine hours this thing instead of reading one of the
Speaker 4: books or playing one of the games. But I think
Speaker 4: in a second season, with a bit more money, we
Speaker 4: can see more of like that big scale comming because
Speaker 4: the Covenant are barely in it, unfortunately, And I was
Speaker 4: hoping that the villains were too expense too expensive, and
Speaker 4: it was good, like honestly, yeah, the Covenant looked good
Speaker 4: when they bring him in there, you know, and they
Speaker 4: bring in little nods the game, like you know, we
Speaker 4: see them like initially stealthily take out a bunch of
Speaker 4: grunts by hitting them the head, Like Okay, we've all
Speaker 4: done this, we're going so I think maybe a little
Speaker 4: bit more of that and I could be on board.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm actually looking forward to catching up on this.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's one of the things I do in the
Speaker 1: throes of COVID nineteen, the novel coronavirus. Up next the airlock,
Speaker 1: where we'll tell you about what we do when we're sick.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the airlock. Stay on the other side of it, folks,
Speaker 1: because because your hosts today Rosie and I have been
Speaker 1: stricken with the novel coronavirus COVID nineteen, and so you're
Speaker 1: gonna want to stay on the other side of that
Speaker 1: airlock so that you don't catch it. And today in
Speaker 1: the airlock, we're going to talk about the things that
Speaker 1: we as a team super producers Chris and Saul, Hey,
Speaker 1: Rosie and I do when we're sick. What do we watch,
Speaker 1: what do we do, what do we read? What are
Speaker 1: the things that comfort us and get us through this?
Speaker 1: This really horrific fucking feeling that we're feeling right now, Rosie,
Speaker 1: let's start with you. What are you been doing in
Speaker 1: the time? By the way, let me let's just start
Speaker 1: with this. I texted on Monday like, hey, I have COVID, Like,
Speaker 1: let's cancel the pre pro meeting. YadA, YadA, YadA. And
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm glad that you tell It's funny you
Speaker 1: should text right now because I too have COVID, And yes,
Speaker 1: let's definitely push the meeting. So when did you When
Speaker 1: did you start feeling it? And what have you been
Speaker 1: doing since then?
Speaker 2: Like Thursday ish and then Friday was really the the day.
Speaker 2: But it's just it's only gone worse, baby, It's only
Speaker 2: gotten worse.
Speaker 3: So I'm I have been. I luckily I had actually just.
Speaker 2: Incidentally kind of like taken some time off to like
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm gonna do some writing, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: like do some stuff.
Speaker 3: I had my mom visit and and then.
Speaker 2: Lo and behold, it just ended up working out because
Speaker 2: it meant I could just not I could just lay
Speaker 2: around and and and rest. And one of the things
Speaker 2: that I did that was very comforting that we haven't
Speaker 2: talked about yet. Somehow that is easily up there with
Speaker 2: like my favorite shows.
Speaker 3: Of the year was I finished Our Flagman's Death.
Speaker 5: It's a great show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been.
Speaker 2: Saving like the last two episodes because.
Speaker 3: I didn't want it to be finished.
Speaker 1: Don't spoil the finale because there is some really great
Speaker 1: The finale has some great stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just gonna I'm not even gonna really spoil anything.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna tell you why it's good and you
Speaker 3: should watch it.
Speaker 2: So it's it's the much lauded Taiko w t t
Speaker 2: produce starring Pirate show and it is just like, along
Speaker 2: with Abbott Elementary, another one of my favorite shows of
Speaker 2: the year.
Speaker 3: It is like the.
Speaker 2: Funniest, like kindest, sweetest, weirdest show, and the cast is
Speaker 2: incredible and the writing is funny, and it's just like
Speaker 2: one of those half hour comedies where you're just like, damn,
Speaker 2: I wish I had made this because it is like
Speaker 2: so so surprising, but it's also very cozy. It has
Speaker 2: like I was sending around everyone who was like saying
Speaker 2: that they enjoyed it. I was like, there's this old
Speaker 2: English tradition of like weird musical kids shows, and one
Speaker 2: of them was called Maid Marian and her merry Men,
Speaker 2: and it was done by the guys who made Black
Speaker 2: at Her And when I was a kid, like I
Speaker 2: always think about that, And the opening of the first
Speaker 2: show is this guy singing like a reggae song about
Speaker 2: like mud and how how terrible it is to be
Speaker 2: a peasant in like Britain. And this show has that
Speaker 2: same like weird Britainish musical kids show energy, like it
Speaker 2: has some it is for adults, like, it's got some violence,
Speaker 2: but but generally you're just like, this is like a
Speaker 2: really funny kids show but made for people my age.
Speaker 4: It's surprisingly wholesome. Oh it's whole for being pirates. Yeah, like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is actually like really nice.
Speaker 1: Saul, what are you? What do you? What do you watch?
Speaker 1: What is your go to when you're sick?
Speaker 6: It's a good question. I think my go to when
Speaker 6: I'm sick is probably like, I want something really comforting
Speaker 6: and comfortable, nothing like complicated. I want to minimize complexity,
Speaker 6: and I want, I mean, like the familiar. It is
Speaker 6: hard to beat, Like, I want something relatively familiar, so
Speaker 6: I'll often rewatch. I gotta say, when I was a kid,
Speaker 6: and this is actually still true, my mom would take
Speaker 6: me to work with her when I was really sick,
Speaker 6: and I would just sit in her office and watch
Speaker 6: on her Like other computer watch movies, The Ocean's Trilogy
Speaker 6: would be something I.
Speaker 3: Watch Ultimate comfort Watch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that's a great one.
Speaker 6: Watching Brad Pitt and especially Brad Pitt. I love Brad Pitt,
Speaker 6: But watching brad Pitt and Clooney just like sort of
Speaker 6: like stylishly solve problems and like do it with no
Speaker 6: issues at all. It's just like very pleasing. I'm like this,
Speaker 6: it's complicated, but it's so not complicated. They make it
Speaker 6: too easy. That's what I want life to be.
Speaker 2: Like this stakes the high but love watch it and
Speaker 2: you're like they're stealing a lot, but this is not stressful.
Speaker 3: This is relaxing. I'm glad to be involved in this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like, this is good. One hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1: I want that.
Speaker 3: This is great. If only, if only.
Speaker 5: This could be so easy?
Speaker 1: Chris, what is your go to sick content?
Speaker 4: I think if I'm sick, probably the first movie I
Speaker 4: put on is probably the movie I've seen the most
Speaker 4: of my entire life, which is The Great Mouse Detective, Like.
Speaker 3: The Respect to Basil. That's the one I.
Speaker 4: Mean, yeah, you know, and and Vincent Price's Radigan is
Speaker 4: like one of the all time great camp villains. And
Speaker 4: I've watched the movie probably three or four times a year.
Speaker 4: I ever just like feeling like a little bit like
Speaker 4: hungover or sick whatever.
Speaker 5: Ikay thrown that on.
Speaker 4: And when I actually I had COVID back in October
Speaker 4: twenty twenty, you know, pre vaccine, when it was like
Speaker 4: you can't go anywhere, do anything, you don't know how
Speaker 4: long you're gonna be six. I basically quarantined for three
Speaker 4: weeks more or less, and I caught up in a
Speaker 4: lot of Batman comics. I reread the Cataclysm in No
Speaker 4: Man's Lam arc, but I went and tracked down like
Speaker 4: all the side issues that were included in like the
Speaker 4: trade collective versions that I had in the nineties, you know,
Speaker 4: thank you for was it DC Infinity or whatever?
Speaker 5: That was fantastic, And then I started, yeah, but it is, yeah, no,
Speaker 5: it was really excellent.
Speaker 4: I caught up on a lot of comics, and then
Speaker 4: the other thing I did was I got back into
Speaker 4: building custom lego sets I hadn't done in probably like
Speaker 4: a decade or so, and I just had a bunch
Speaker 4: of pieces line around, and so for the first time
Speaker 4: in a long time, I built like a little custom
Speaker 4: batmobile and a little tumbler, and I was like, Oh,
Speaker 4: I'm actually really really proud of how these came out.
Speaker 4: This is pretty great. Yeah, I just like sat my
Speaker 4: apartment for three weeks and buil Legos and red comics
Speaker 4: and it was sound.
Speaker 5: Honestly it was. It was part of me. Part of
Speaker 5: me kind of misses it now at this point that
Speaker 5: that era.
Speaker 2: Of like weird Disney movies from like what they were
Speaker 2: seeing as like a flop era, they definitely come to me.
Speaker 2: Like one of my ultimate ones is The Black Cauldron.
Speaker 2: I watched that culture and and it's so scary and
Speaker 2: weird and like just off key, but it's so comforting.
Speaker 2: And that definitely like that Basso Mass Detective. Like Disney
Speaker 2: Plus in that way has kind of been a blessing
Speaker 2: and a curse because they have they have all those
Speaker 2: a lot of those vaulted movies, but they also used
Speaker 2: to just be free to rent from the library services
Speaker 2: because like nobody wanted them, but it's easier to find
Speaker 2: them on Disney Plus.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, that's that's a great call.
Speaker 5: They were dark too, like a black.
Speaker 2: Coldin is like legitimately terrifying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like it freaked me out, Like it's still to
Speaker 4: this day, Like there's a part of my brain that
Speaker 4: like shivers little bit whenever Fidget busts to the window,
Speaker 4: Like I should still be scared by this all these
Speaker 4: years later.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're like they're dark and cool. I really like
Speaker 5: that era. Actually the one for me like that was
Speaker 5: Page Master.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah so scary.
Speaker 6: The mister Hyde was so scary to me, Like just
Speaker 6: like the I don't know all of the streaky, but
Speaker 6: like you just kind of like want more of it.
Speaker 6: It feels like a version of a fever a little bit,
Speaker 6: like let me just try to like get get the
Speaker 6: bad stuff out.
Speaker 5: Dude.
Speaker 2: Joe Johnston, he's a pretty legit Comfort Watchers director actually,
Speaker 2: because he directed Rocketeer and now brilliant Rocketeer.
Speaker 1: Shouts to Rocketeer right shouts a. Shouts to Jennifer Connelly,
Speaker 1: my always my first wife is fantastic in The Rocketeer,
Speaker 1: A movie that should have been like a hit but
Speaker 1: wasn't a hit.
Speaker 5: Fun movie, really fun, super fun.
Speaker 2: There's no way Captain America exists the First Avenger directed
Speaker 2: by him.
Speaker 3: If that movie didn't exist, Hey, right, yeah.
Speaker 1: He's completely I've been rewatching it, like I've rewatched The
Speaker 1: Succession season two episode turn Haven, today, episodes of television,
Speaker 1: and I've been reading a lot. But I think that
Speaker 1: I've been like catching up on a lot of TV.
Speaker 1: And one of the shows that I'm really enjoying right
Speaker 1: now is killing it on Peacock.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the Craig Robinson Show.
Speaker 1: It stars Craig Robinson, created by Luke del Tredici and
Speaker 1: Dan Gore, and it is Craig Robinson is a like
Speaker 1: down on his luck dude who enters a like a
Speaker 1: Boa constrictor catching contest in the Everglades. Now, because like
Speaker 1: the setup here is that I'm sure we've all read
Speaker 1: these stories where like people who couldn't handle their snakes
Speaker 1: in the in the you know, Everglade region, they would
Speaker 1: just like let them go into like the swamps and shit,
Speaker 1: and now they're like a threat to the environment and
Speaker 1: so they have to be caught. And so there's like
Speaker 1: this twenty thousand dollars contest for whoever catches the most
Speaker 1: snakes in the swamps. And of course, like that is
Speaker 1: the exact amount of money that Craig Robinson's character needs
Speaker 1: to get out of the jam he's in. And it's like,
Speaker 1: first of all, the cast is great. Craig Robinson as
Speaker 1: Craig He's Craig Robinson has reached the Tony Danza. All
Speaker 1: my characters are named my name level of like TV
Speaker 1: acticts the Pizza Hut money. Yeah, Claudio Darity as Gillian,
Speaker 1: who I just chat from our Wagman's death and love
Speaker 1: and from other things. She's just like fantastic and so funny.
Speaker 1: Lily Sullivan from The Righteous Gemstones and season one of
Speaker 1: I think you should leave. Uh. Tim Heidecker as like
Speaker 1: as like Tom Cruise's character from Magnolia. Like, it's so
Speaker 1: the casting is really great, And first of all, I
Speaker 1: was not aware on Peacock that you could curse and shit,
Speaker 1: So there's like a lot it's like adult, but it
Speaker 1: also deals with like it's a show about people on
Speaker 1: the lowest rungs of the socioeconomic gladder who've been left
Speaker 1: behind by capitalism and who are just like trying to
Speaker 1: get by. And part of the way, part of the
Speaker 1: journey of the show is, you know, along with all
Speaker 1: the snake catching and all of like hilarity and wild
Speaker 1: stuff that happens. Is like they all kind of like
Speaker 1: bond together into this community as a way to get by.
Speaker 1: It's just a really really funny show. It's really fun.
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying it. It's not like anything else that's out
Speaker 1: there in the same way that Abbot and in Our
Speaker 1: Flag Means death feel really singular and unique killing. It
Speaker 1: feels like that really fun showing.
Speaker 5: I love that.
Speaker 4: That's what streaming has given us now, is you can
Speaker 4: go super niche like that and just produce like a
Speaker 4: short ten episode series. It's like for a very ci
Speaker 4: audience that discover and love it and it can just
Speaker 4: exist and be awesome and not have to be twenty
Speaker 4: two episodes and appeal to everybody all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I really like that, Like these Found family
Speaker 2: stories are becoming like such a trope now, and I
Speaker 2: think it's because like people our age grew up with,
Speaker 2: like some of the ultimate Found families, you know, like
Speaker 2: the X Men and stuff like that, And I I
Speaker 2: just it makes me really happy to see shows that
Speaker 2: are being made at a prestige TV level where that
Speaker 2: discovery of community for whatever reason whether it's socio economic
Speaker 2: or sexuality or just living like on the outside of society.
Speaker 2: That's become such a cool part of TV now, and
Speaker 2: that's definitely like one of my comfort tropes.
Speaker 3: So it's really nice to.
Speaker 6: See Guardians the Galaxy. I watch that movie all the time.
Speaker 6: Another Ultimate Found Family movie.
Speaker 1: That's a great one. I will go on Disney Plus
Speaker 1: and just watch scenes from Marvel movies way too much,
Speaker 1: Like even when I'm not sick, I do that all
Speaker 1: the time. I really do that all the time. And
Speaker 1: it's it's sad, and I don't like to talk about it,
Speaker 1: but I do. I do that constantly.
Speaker 2: I do Captain America picking up Thor's hammer.
Speaker 3: That's like but once a week probably, And.
Speaker 1: Like listen, one of the greatest scenes in the entire
Speaker 1: MCU is the before as Ultron is like knitting his
Speaker 1: consciousness together, and they're all and the rest of the
Speaker 1: Avengers are just like partying on at Stark Tower. The
Speaker 1: iOS just like hanging out, and that is like so fun.
Speaker 1: That is such a fun scene. Everybody drinking like Thor's
Speaker 1: thousand year old dorog, you know, seeing who could pick
Speaker 1: up Thort's hammer, roasting Roadie for being like a Kmart superhero.
Speaker 3: Like that. Some So that's the good stuff.
Speaker 4: And I love Black Widow's response like, oh, that's not
Speaker 4: a question I any answered.
Speaker 5: It's like, oh, yeah, that's that's perfect for her character.
Speaker 3: It's like, no, I don't want to know.
Speaker 1: Well, listen, hopefully this will be over soon, Rosie.
Speaker 3: I believe in us.
Speaker 1: You've you've been dealing with since Thursday. I've been dealing
Speaker 1: it with since Saturday. Although, as I told my primary
Speaker 1: care doctor, because I'm lucky enough to have health insurance
Speaker 1: and I think that's the thing that everybody in this
Speaker 1: country should just have. Yes, definitely, there was like a
Speaker 1: two to three maybe four day period where it was like,
Speaker 1: oh man, my allergies are bad. So you know, like
Speaker 1: it's hard to yeah, it's hard to say, it's hard
Speaker 1: to know, but I'm going to say Saturday, and so
Speaker 1: hopefully this is over soon. I know that there. I
Speaker 1: know that there's probably some people yelling at their speakers
Speaker 1: right now. Get that anti viral pa Sloffett or whatever
Speaker 1: it's called. I tried, let me tell you, folks, I tried.
Speaker 1: I did. I was like, hey, what about that anti viral.
Speaker 1: I've been hearing about and they didn't want to give
Speaker 1: it to me because I guess my symptoms aren't bad enough,
Speaker 1: and I respect it. There's probably people who really really
Speaker 1: require it. They are giving that out for anybody in
Speaker 1: New York. I believe that's free. If you get that prescribed,
Speaker 1: you can get that for free. I guess they just
Speaker 1: have a lot of it over there.
Speaker 3: That's amazing in New York's sitience.
Speaker 1: But hopefully this will be over soon and we'll be
Speaker 1: back with you by our next episode, fully whole and
Speaker 1: well and certainly finished with our journey to full recovery.
Speaker 1: Up next the outro, It's a big thank you to
Speaker 1: Rosie Night. Chris Lord and Saw Roumin are super producers
Speaker 1: for joining us and helping us carry through the episode
Speaker 1: on X ray vision as Rosie and I are dealing
Speaker 1: with reduced lung capacity. Rosie, what do you have to plug?
Speaker 2: Well, depending on how I'm feeling this weekend, I may
Speaker 2: or may not be there, but do remember that there
Speaker 2: is an amazing Transformers Day event at Pop Fiction in
Speaker 2: Long Beach, which is my local comic shop.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a ton of cool artists there.
Speaker 2: You can get some brad Transformers comics on sale. Even
Speaker 2: if I'm not there, I'll make sure some of my
Speaker 2: zines and stuff are there that you can pick up,
Speaker 2: and it will just be a really good time. I
Speaker 2: dream that I will be well, but it feels like
Speaker 2: I will never be well, so I'm not promising anything.
Speaker 3: Oh, we're gonna get there.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do it. We can do it, and we
Speaker 1: can do it, folks, don't forget to check out our
Speaker 1: videos on Cultured YouTube channel and the show notes for
Speaker 1: the listener's Guide to X ray Vision, where we provide
Speaker 1: more details about the stuff we talk about on each episode,
Speaker 1: including this one. Our next episode will be on May
Speaker 1: twenty seventh, by which time we hope to be fully
Speaker 1: whole and well and our body's free of the novel
Speaker 1: coronavirus COVID nineteen. Don't forget rate and review us with
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Speaker 1: X ray Vision is a Crooked Media production. The show
Speaker 1: is produced by Chris Lord and Saalrubin. The show is
Speaker 1: executive produced by myself and Sandy garhard Our, Editing and
Speaker 1: sound designers by Vacillius Patopoulos. Dellan Villanueva and Macna Group
Speaker 1: provide video production support and alex Rella for handle social media.
Speaker 1: Thank you Brian Vasquez for a theme music. See you
Speaker 1: next time.