WEBVTT - She-Hulk Trailer Reactions + Favorite Sick Day Comfort Watches

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<v Speaker 1>Warning, this podcast can take spoilers for Doctor Stranger, the

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<v Speaker 1>Multiverse of Madness, and the Halo series, including the finale,

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<v Speaker 1>of content, make sure to skip those sections of our podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all. Thank you. Hello. My name is Jason Getsepsion

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm currently in the throes of the novel coronavirus

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<v Speaker 1>COVID nineteen, which I tested positive for last weekend and

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<v Speaker 1>have been suffering symptoms of fromout a day before I

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<v Speaker 1>had tested positive for it. All of which is to

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<v Speaker 1>say this is going to be a crazy episode because

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<v Speaker 1>not only am I suffering from the novel coronavirus COVID nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>but my brilliant co host, the best in the business, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>the number one comics writer, pop historian in the game today,

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<v Speaker 1>Rosie Night, Rosie, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I also have novel coronavirus aka COVID nineteen, and somehow

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't get this at the same place. We legitimately

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<v Speaker 2>have not seen each other in public for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>In real good.

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<v Speaker 3>Point, Rosie, because here's what I have this happened.

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<v Speaker 1>You can read the news and the COVID.

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<v Speaker 3>Is rampant right now, people wear your masks.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been to numerous places over the last you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the last week in the zone when I could have

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<v Speaker 1>gotten it, and I was always one of like the

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<v Speaker 1>five percent of people. They're wearing a mask. It ain't

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<v Speaker 1>gone away, folks. And this time it's crazy. This is

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<v Speaker 1>my second go round with COVID nineteen the novel Coronavirus.

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<v Speaker 1>The first time I basically just slept for like eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>hours and then like two days later I felt fine.

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<v Speaker 1>This time, like Terminator two or Aliens or Godfather too.

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<v Speaker 1>The sequel is much more potent than the original, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I got a fucking house dropped on me.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel, Rosie, I would.

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<v Speaker 2>Concur This is not my first time having COVID, seeing

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<v Speaker 2>as we all living through a global pandemic in busy cities.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is the worst time.

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<v Speaker 2>I have been haunting my house like a fucking sickened ghost.

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<v Speaker 3>That I have a FEVA every day. It is like

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<v Speaker 3>you said, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's truly like the James Cameron's Aliens to Ridley Scott's Alien.

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<v Speaker 2>The first one was like a brain foggy, slow lucid experience.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like space marine shooting you with then with

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<v Speaker 2>a big space gun.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very bad, folks. It's snarley. Don't get it, and

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<v Speaker 1>we say ask be safe and take care of yourselves

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<v Speaker 1>and other people and other people around you who, for

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<v Speaker 1>reasons not having to do with ignorance, perhaps can't get

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<v Speaker 1>the numerous vaccines that are out there because of the

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<v Speaker 1>previous metal conditions, the fact that they're compromised, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>Those people are living in a state of constant fear,

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<v Speaker 1>and we can, we can, we can make their plight

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit less stressful by hopefully getting vaccinated. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're not vaccinated by now, I'm not sure what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>But also just wearing your mask because it's out here, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>it's out here. I saw Paul McCartney at I saw

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<v Speaker 1>Paul McCartney. That's so fi and again one of like

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<v Speaker 1>one of like five percent of the people there who

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<v Speaker 1>was wearing a mask. So it's out it's it's it

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<v Speaker 1>is here, folks. And also anecdotally, as this very podcast

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<v Speaker 1>episode recording proves, I've even like when it was pre vaccines,

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<v Speaker 1>when when it was like really really really really scary,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know this many people like that had it,

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<v Speaker 1>So I know so many people that have it right

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<v Speaker 1>now or had it last week or two weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's going around.

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<v Speaker 2>And and I don't really go out many places or

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<v Speaker 2>go and do big socializing things just to protect my

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<v Speaker 2>own health. And I always wear a mask and I

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<v Speaker 2>still got it. So just everybody's getting it. It's it's

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<v Speaker 2>good to just take care. And it's hard right now

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<v Speaker 2>because the way that the numbers are being reported and

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that a lot of people are testing at

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<v Speaker 2>home means we won't necessarily see those numbers in the

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<v Speaker 2>same way we did in other waves.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's just really good.

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<v Speaker 2>To follow you got and be thoughtful for your own

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<v Speaker 2>sake and other people's. And because this is very gnolly,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to be sittin a sweating like us

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<v Speaker 2>talking about I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, great, great transition, because let's do that in today's episode.

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<v Speaker 1>In the previously on, we're going to talk about a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of news from this week, headlined by the the

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<v Speaker 1>she Hulk trailer drops. The delightful She Hulk trailer drop.

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<v Speaker 1>We will talk about the Halo finale and the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that Master Chief popped his cherry he did it and

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<v Speaker 1>people aren't necessarily happy about it. We will talk about

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<v Speaker 1>some other news, and then we will go to the airlock,

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<v Speaker 1>where we will talk about when you're sick and you're

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<v Speaker 1>sitting at home, what do you watch, what do you read,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you do to just kind of comfort you

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<v Speaker 1>through it? And that's that's in our air lock section.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, as always, if you want to jump around,

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<v Speaker 1>check out the time stamps in the show notes. First up,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go to the news. The She Hulk trailer. She

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<v Speaker 1>Hulk Attorney a law She's barred, folks, She's a barred

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<v Speaker 1>attorney at New York State. It's Jennifer Walter's cousin of

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<v Speaker 1>our good friend Bruce Banner. The show starring Tatiana Mazlani

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<v Speaker 1>as Jennifer Walters, Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner, Hello, Tim

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<v Speaker 1>Roth as Emil Blonsky, Benedict Wong as Wong, and others.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about this trailer, which is absolutely super super fun, delight.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's my first takeaway. Hulk's arm is fine. Therefore, this

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<v Speaker 1>is pre end game. Therefore we're going to fill in

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff clearly post snap, and that is Bruce Banner's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, post Ragnarok journey to becoming Professor Hulk, We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to see some of that timeline filled in and

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<v Speaker 1>that is super super cool and awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to talk about that, because like if

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<v Speaker 2>you if you're not like us and you don't be

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<v Speaker 2>pausing the trailer and everything.

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<v Speaker 3>You might be like, what are you talking about? But

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<v Speaker 3>this is it.

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<v Speaker 2>In Endgame, we met Professor Holk, who explained that he

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<v Speaker 2>was a new version of Banner and Hulk combined.

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<v Speaker 3>He was not a third entity. He was who he is.

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<v Speaker 3>He's he's an intelligent adream and the bridge together exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's looking hunky and I'm sure some people on

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<v Speaker 2>the internet are calling.

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<v Speaker 3>Him Daddy Jeez. And then at the end of.

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<v Speaker 2>Shang Chi, we saw Bruce Banner in his human form.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a sling on his arm because in Endgame

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<v Speaker 2>we saw him, we saw Holk wheeled the Infinity Gauntlet

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<v Speaker 2>and do the snap and it really messed up his arm.

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<v Speaker 2>So in the modern continuity, we know that Bruce is

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<v Speaker 2>back in his normal human body and he has an

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<v Speaker 2>arm sling in this trailer is Jason so smartly noticed

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<v Speaker 2>he is Professor Holk and his arms are looking fine.

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<v Speaker 3>So it is very very likely that.

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<v Speaker 2>This is going to be in that period between Infinity

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<v Speaker 2>War and Endgame, which is something we have yet to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Another thing we're gonna see. I think we can deduce

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<v Speaker 1>from this wonderful again trailer. There's the part of the

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<v Speaker 1>trailer in which you know, one of the heads of

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<v Speaker 1>the law firm that Jennifer works for says, hey, we

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<v Speaker 1>want to start a superhero division, which is directly a

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<v Speaker 1>very much a comics thing. Like Jennifer's specialty is powered incidents,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, cases involving or related to people with powers.

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<v Speaker 1>And we remember from Shang Xi right that that Emil Blonski,

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<v Speaker 1>the Abomination in his comics accurate form, was doing fights

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<v Speaker 1>for money against Wong and we're like, holy shit, wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>he like in jail? Wasn't he in Super People Jail?

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<v Speaker 1>And we see him in this trailer when when the

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, one of the law partners mentions, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to start superhero a superpowered person's division. I

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<v Speaker 1>think this is how he gets out. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think Jennifer, and honestly rightly so, I think you would

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<v Speaker 1>make the argument that, like, hey, we can't hold this

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<v Speaker 1>guy forever like it's actually, yes, he's theoretically a weapon

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<v Speaker 1>of mass destruction, but there's other powered people out there

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<v Speaker 1>now who are also similarly powerful. And what what does

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<v Speaker 1>it mean legally that we can just like hold this

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<v Speaker 1>guy ad infinitum. And I think that's how Emil Blanski

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<v Speaker 1>gets his freedom or whatever whatever status he has by

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<v Speaker 1>shang Chi, where he's able to come and go at will.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I think that the cell that we see in

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<v Speaker 2>this trailer, that that we see Jennifer in when she's

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<v Speaker 2>testing her Hulk powers, that looks very similar to where

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<v Speaker 2>we see Abomination walk back.

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<v Speaker 3>Into during shang Chi.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that I think that Bruce, whatever part

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<v Speaker 2>of Bruce's life this is, it's going to be important

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<v Speaker 2>and foundational to the notion of whatever's going on in

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<v Speaker 2>the current continuity. We know that Sword was set up,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, within this there was that was a really

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<v Speaker 2>big time for Sword after and we found out about

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<v Speaker 2>all the plans that they were making because of what

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<v Speaker 2>had happened because of the blips. So it wouldn't surprise

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<v Speaker 2>me if some of the things that we thought we

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<v Speaker 2>were going to see or we thought we were seeing

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<v Speaker 2>being established with shang Chi like Dark Avengers, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>If those things might have already been in the works

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<v Speaker 2>during this five years, and am we going to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of retroactively learn about them and see how they could

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<v Speaker 2>come into play in the y to MCU, what.

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<v Speaker 1>Else do we see? Let's talk about this. So we

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<v Speaker 1>see in the opening shots, we see a car tumbling

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<v Speaker 1>down the hill. Now, in the comics, Jennifer gets her

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<v Speaker 1>powers because she needs a blood transfusion from know she

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<v Speaker 1>has a particular blood type, and so they go to

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<v Speaker 1>a relative, and of course Bruce Banner is the relative,

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<v Speaker 1>and the side effect of him donating blood to his

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<v Speaker 1>cousin is that the gamma radiation in his blood also

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<v Speaker 1>gets into Jen's body and she reacts in a very

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<v Speaker 1>similar way to Bruce and becomes the shields. Now, in

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<v Speaker 1>the comics, it's gangsters shoot her because of her legal

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<v Speaker 1>activities and she requires this blood transfusions. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be I think clearly it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>an accident rather than gangs, which anyway is like I

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<v Speaker 1>think Punisher like debut like two years before that, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's like they just like reused the Punisher's origin.

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<v Speaker 2>Like everyone's family's being killed by gangsters.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I think you're right in something.

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<v Speaker 2>That our super producer Sauw was saying when we were

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<v Speaker 2>prepping for this episode was like Hawk Eyed did something

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<v Speaker 2>really interesting where it tied Kate Bishop's origin and her

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<v Speaker 2>tragic backstory directly into events of the MCU, And that

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<v Speaker 2>definitely feels like something we could see here.

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<v Speaker 3>But from the.

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<v Speaker 2>Tone of the show, which is like very eighties and

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<v Speaker 2>funny and kind of like feels a bit more lighthearted

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<v Speaker 2>than a lot of the other stuff we've gotten, I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be surprised to see them play with that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of fan favorite conversation about like collateral damage, which is

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<v Speaker 2>like not something we've really seen very much. They touched

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<v Speaker 2>on it in the Netflix stuff, But I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>surprised if her accident was like something got thrown and

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<v Speaker 2>hit a wall and then it fell on her.

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<v Speaker 3>During an event just happened or something exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the.

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<v Speaker 2>Snap an ice cream van had a guy who wasn't driving,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just think, like, this show seems to be

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<v Speaker 2>going into that humor and it's it's if it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be like the comics. She's always been a very meta

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<v Speaker 2>fourth wall breaking character. So to have a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of that conversation with the audience and say, well, this

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of what it's like for normal people who

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<v Speaker 2>live in the MCU. You might not even end up

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<v Speaker 2>being normal because your cousin's got gamma blood.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about one of the real surprises in this trailer,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the very very brief shot of Frogmen from

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<v Speaker 1>I did not know this was gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 3>I cannot believe this happened. I am sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us who tell us about Frogman. Frogman, very very

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<v Speaker 1>minor character that I maintain was at least in some

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<v Speaker 1>form a like esthetic influence on the Teenage Mutant Ninja journals.

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<v Speaker 1>I yeah claim that I have no evidence for that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I claim.

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<v Speaker 2>That the truth is that all those I mean, TMNT

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<v Speaker 2>is like one of my favorite topics, and all of

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<v Speaker 2>those comics, the original Black and White Stuff, which is

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<v Speaker 2>very dark and very funny, was an absolute response to

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<v Speaker 2>Marvel and DC and big superhero comics. So that would

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<v Speaker 2>make a lot of sense, especially when you think about

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that, like in Teenage Mutant Ninja titles, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>the bad group is called it's called the foot Clan

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<v Speaker 2>instead of the Hand you know, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Stuff like that. So it's very It was like a self.

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<v Speaker 2>Published kind of shit post comic, and I love that

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<v Speaker 2>it became this team this like Kid's powerhouse. But yes, Frogman,

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<v Speaker 2>it is with a hyphen like spider Man, so don't

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<v Speaker 2>spell it wrong or else the comic fans might get

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<v Speaker 2>upset with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Created by JM. D.

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<v Speaker 2>Matteas and Kerry Gamil from a Marvel Team Up issue

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<v Speaker 2>Marvel Team Up one one June nineteen eighty two, which I.

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<v Speaker 1>Believe those were fun man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that puts it between that. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>puts it before the first yeah, two years before the

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<v Speaker 2>first Ninja title's comics, That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And also like Eugene, the frog Man's Eugene identity, Eugene's

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<v Speaker 1>like fifteen. This is why I claim that Frogman is

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<v Speaker 1>an influence onto you. But like again, I have no

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that.

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Eastman on it to talk about this local legend. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so yes, his mother is called Rosie. Shout out to me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and he basically makes like he is like a kid

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<v Speaker 2>who wants to be a villain, and it is like

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<v Speaker 2>really weird and strange, and he could definitely one of

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<v Speaker 2>those weird characters from the seventies and eighties where you're just.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, how did this get in there?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like he actually payspot pete, like the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>level character I have to say.

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<v Speaker 3>This actually, and basically he is, like.

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<v Speaker 2>He's one of those characters who's so out there and

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<v Speaker 2>weird if you're a comic book occasionally, if you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>if like me and Jason got to write a comic,

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<v Speaker 2>we would be pulling these.

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<v Speaker 3>Weird characters that we love. So he pops up.

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<v Speaker 2>Like he's in Secret Invasion, you know, as a scroll

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<v Speaker 2>he's he's in like you see these.

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<v Speaker 1>Different crazy by the way, hilarious pull in Secret Invasion the.

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<v Speaker 2>Scroll and then like, I mean, he's definitely I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's there's character.

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<v Speaker 3>There's creators now.

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<v Speaker 2>Who remember him fondly because he pops up a lot, and.

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<v Speaker 3>To see him here.

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<v Speaker 2>They they do a really good job kind of recontextualizing

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<v Speaker 2>the costume, which in the comics is like very cartoony.

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<v Speaker 2>In in the trailer, as we see it, it looks

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like a Super Sentai costume, like a like

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<v Speaker 2>a Power Rangers costume. Meets Vigilante from the recently released

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<v Speaker 2>peace Maker show that we talked a lot about, So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very interested to see my gut says he will

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<v Speaker 2>be someone that she represents. That seems to be the

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<v Speaker 2>only way to easily ul him into the show unless

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<v Speaker 2>he is actually secretly the villain and Titania is like

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be an ally instead.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you mentioned Titania Uh played by Jimmy La Jamil.

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<v Speaker 1>She is we assume, gonna be the big bad of

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<v Speaker 1>the series and is a frequent foil for she Hulk

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<v Speaker 1>over the years. Now, Titana in the comics gets her

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<v Speaker 1>powers from Doctor DOOMO it.

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<v Speaker 3>Will be dun dunn dunt dun duh.

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<v Speaker 1>It will be absolutely I fascinated to know where she

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<v Speaker 1>gets her powers this time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Also in the comics, one more connection with the Well.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, She Hulk was a member of the

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<v Speaker 1>Fantastic Four, so there's that. And then also she Hulk

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<v Speaker 1>represented Doctor Doom's son in his attempt to basically flea

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<v Speaker 1>lat Varia and become an American citizen. So there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of really cool Doctor Doom connections and it

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<v Speaker 1>just feels like I once again we're inching inching towards

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<v Speaker 1>a Fantastic four canonical debut. The fact that we saw

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<v Speaker 1>John Krasinski as Richard's nonwithstanding.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I totally agree. I think it's a really

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<v Speaker 2>interesting poll. Obviously, she is like a really famous shock villain,

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<v Speaker 2>and it makes sense because they're obviously going for kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like an Ali McBeal vibe, so it makes sense

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<v Speaker 2>to give her like a female antagonist. But I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be surprised if we saw some kind of implication of

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<v Speaker 2>like a powerbroker.

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<v Speaker 3>Sort like where did she get this power?

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<v Speaker 1>Great?

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<v Speaker 3>How could she get it?

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<v Speaker 2>Also in the comics, like even though it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a wacky origin during the Secret Wars stuff that I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's Secret Wars three where she's introduced, it's actually

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<v Speaker 2>like bad she does get tested on and has is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of what could definitely be be written as like

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<v Speaker 2>a tragic backstory or a reason to be pissed off

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<v Speaker 2>at people, or reason to kind of want to become

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<v Speaker 2>a villain. So I think there's interesting stuff to dig

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<v Speaker 2>into there, and I think it's really interesting that in

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<v Speaker 2>this the first trailer for the show, it's just this

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like glimpse of a fight. So I'm really

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<v Speaker 2>interested to see where they go because I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>the MCU is definitely blurring the lines between like good

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<v Speaker 2>guys and bad guys and kind of that gray area

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<v Speaker 2>between Ally and antagonist, and I think that relationship could

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<v Speaker 2>be prime for that. And the fact that Wong is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be in this show and we know that

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<v Speaker 2>he is connected to a nomination, He's connected to whatever

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<v Speaker 2>this secret team he's kind of trying to put together.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like the new Phase four Nick Fury, which I like.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that at some point we should discuss the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that comic Swang currently is great. Movie Wong is

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<v Speaker 1>orders of magnitude the best Wong. It's not even close

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<v Speaker 1>to how cool, how much cooler.

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<v Speaker 2>He is in the movies then in the and I

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<v Speaker 2>think you can absolutely one Benedict Wong shout out that's

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<v Speaker 2>like all you great, like you're killing it. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that you can't understate his impact on why the

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<v Speaker 2>comic book Wong is better, because like these movies and

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<v Speaker 2>comics are so intertwined, and when you have such a

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<v Speaker 2>brilliant in depth, like thoughtful, funny, silly, strong, brilliant character,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know that some people were definitely also like

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<v Speaker 2>becoming like thirsty for Wong after Doctor Strange too.

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>I never feeling it like he had a new outfit,

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<v Speaker 2>he was looking good and like I just yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>love it and I love that it's up the game.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, honestly, they've done a really great job recontextualizing

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<v Speaker 2>that orientalist aspect. Yes, so it's so key to like

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<v Speaker 2>the older Doctor Strange stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>There might be some of our listeners out there like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>she I love the trailer. I'm getting into comic. What

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<v Speaker 1>can I read? It's super super easy read Dan Slott's

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<v Speaker 1>She Hulk The Complete Collection. This is story by Dan Slot,

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<v Speaker 1>Audi ground Off on cover art, also Paul Peltier and

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Collins on art. It kind of like set the

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<v Speaker 1>modern tone for She Hulk as a character in the

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<v Speaker 1>early two thousands, as this kind of like one time

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<v Speaker 1>shy lawyer who has become this very like super confident,

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<v Speaker 1>hard charging work, hard play hard character who's like who

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<v Speaker 1>is in a lot of ways like a focus point

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<v Speaker 1>for the female superhero community, Like she has so many

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<v Speaker 1>friends across the female superhero community, which is part of

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<v Speaker 1>what makes that that collection so fun. Is just like, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've said this many times. I'm a big fan of

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<v Speaker 1>like superheroes just hang out stories, and there's so many

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<v Speaker 1>scenes in that collection where it's just like Jen just

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out with her friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Also because she's one of.

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<v Speaker 2>The few, she's one of like the few heroes aside

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<v Speaker 2>from like the Fantastic Four, So she's gonna be one

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<v Speaker 2>of the first MCU heroes who has like a full

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<v Speaker 2>time job. She's not just like bumming around like somehow

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<v Speaker 2>not getting paid for being an avenger.

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<v Speaker 3>She has like a full time job.

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<v Speaker 2>So that leads to a lot of funny kind of

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<v Speaker 2>slice of life sitting around stuff. And I mean in

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<v Speaker 2>that Dance Loot collection, Titania is like a major antagonist.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're looking for there you have.

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<v Speaker 2>The new poster that they just released is almost certainly

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<v Speaker 2>based on one of Greg Horn's covers, which is actually

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<v Speaker 2>the back of the collection, which is her kind of

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<v Speaker 2>striding up these stairs, you know, and and the and

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<v Speaker 2>the the visualization that they've gone for as Tatiana as

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<v Speaker 2>she is very much that Greg Horn kind of vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>She's she's big, but she's like shape plea and she's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of athletic and so it's very interesting to see that.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's that. So there's the Shell collect her by

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Slot Complete Collection. This collects like she hoped one

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<v Speaker 1>to twelve and I think a couple maybe an annual

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that, and then she hulked the complete collection.

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<v Speaker 1>A more recent a more recent collection by Charles Sewell,

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<v Speaker 1>Javier Plito and Munsa of Vicente, And that one is

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<v Speaker 1>just super super funny. Charles Sewell was a lawyer, so

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<v Speaker 1>he's got all the lingo down and it's That's another

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<v Speaker 1>one where it's like.

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<v Speaker 3>Jen hanging out with Hellcat, you know, like Jena, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Her friendship with Patsy is so great and I do

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. That's gonna be something that plays.

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<v Speaker 1>In That's okay, So I have a prediction. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be We know, our listeners know how much we love

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<v Speaker 1>to make predictions and we don't care if they're wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>We just love to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's so much of like the texture of Jennifer Walter

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<v Speaker 1>stories is about the role she plays in the broader

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<v Speaker 1>superhero community and her friendship and bonds with various figures

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the female superhero community. I think we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>see more than frogmen debut. I think we might see others.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we might because, like, if you think about

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<v Speaker 1>it superhero division, I get that there's a lot of like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, property damage and loss of life from the

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<v Speaker 1>various superhero incidents around the world. Who could forget Hulk

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<v Speaker 1>fucking up Harlem and every place he goes, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>But there's when you talk about the community, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like there's that many, you know, like, there's not that

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<v Speaker 1>many folks that she could rep. She could represent uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Bruce Banner in the various lawsuits that are

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<v Speaker 1>probably lodged against him for destroying you know, uh, Betty's College, Harlem,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. There's uh yeah, but there's not that many

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<v Speaker 1>she yet. She could get ant Man like his charges dropped,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's not like that many. There's really not that.

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<v Speaker 1>Many superheroes yet. So I do wonder if we might

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<v Speaker 1>not if the Frogman drop isn't a signal that hey,

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<v Speaker 1>all those like really really fun, rarely used minor minor

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<v Speaker 1>minor Marvel characters, we might see some of them pop

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<v Speaker 1>up here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that you're right, and I also think

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<v Speaker 2>this is going to continue the Hawkeye tradition, not just

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<v Speaker 2>in tone, but in branding and reshaping the Netflix Marvel

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<v Speaker 2>shows as something for.

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<v Speaker 3>The main MCU.

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<v Speaker 2>It's quite likely we might see Matt Murdock here. He

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<v Speaker 2>too is a lawyer, and him and Jennifer have worked

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<v Speaker 2>alongside each other and something else that you just made

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<v Speaker 2>me realize when we're talking about this. It could work

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<v Speaker 2>as it could work in the same way the Netflix

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<v Speaker 2>shows worked, which is when you actually watch those shows,

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<v Speaker 2>they introduced so many comic book characters because they needed

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<v Speaker 2>like a living community like Luke Cage, so many characters,

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<v Speaker 2>and no MCU show has really done that. Hawkeye used

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<v Speaker 2>names of characters, but it wasn't actually they didn't become

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<v Speaker 2>those characters as we knew them. She could be a

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<v Speaker 2>way of introducing a new I mean, if they wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to do it like a procedural, you could have a

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<v Speaker 2>new character that she's looking after every week, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and it would be a way to build out that community.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be very funny, kind of funny. And some

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<v Speaker 2>of them, you know, you have her defending a hero,

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<v Speaker 2>you have her defending a villain, you have a kind

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<v Speaker 2>of building that moral compass and like that the Charles

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:12.679
<v Speaker 2>Saul run that you were talking about with Havia as

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:15.919
<v Speaker 2>amazing art, Like that's the one where she defends the

0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:19.640
<v Speaker 2>son of Doctor Doom and she and Captain America. Yes,

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, so there's all different kinds of ways that

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 2>you can explore that. And I think that looking to

0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 2>those two, this one has her face down with Matt Murdoch,

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:34.280
<v Speaker 2>like Deadpool is in this, and there's a holiday party,

0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:39.120
<v Speaker 2>so you get that fun space. I just think this

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:43.480
<v Speaker 2>could be a launch pad for building out those weirder,

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 2>smaller superhero roles.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and again I wonder if we it'd be cool

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:53.199
<v Speaker 1>to get a hellcare drop in this. Hellcat one of

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 1>the oldest Marvel character. I mean, going back to the forties,

0:27:56.760 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 1>like this is like as like fucking Marvel fashion.

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:05.199
<v Speaker 3>Fashion cocks really incredible times.

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 2>People forget those old days when women were seen as

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 2>a as a truly large part half of the market.

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 2>So they had romance comics, they had fashion comics, and

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:16.480
<v Speaker 2>that's where Patsy Walker, who became Patsy Walker Hellcat came from.

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:20.639
<v Speaker 2>And she was in the Jessica Jones show in a

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:25.639
<v Speaker 2>kind of reimagined version, But this version of she Hulks

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:29.399
<v Speaker 2>seems like a better place to to bring in a

0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:31.640
<v Speaker 2>different version of her. There was a she Cat. There

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:34.399
<v Speaker 2>was a hell Cat comic with incredible art by Brittany

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Williams a few years ago, and that was very much

0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:42.239
<v Speaker 2>like Sheahawks having a party at the office and like,

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 2>look at all these different characters who are here, and

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:46.360
<v Speaker 2>oh no, who are you gonna have to defend?

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Is it gonna be?

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<v Speaker 1>Like? That's what I love about Seahawks stories. And that's

0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:52.360
<v Speaker 1>why I hope, and that's why I sit because it

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 1>is really such an important part of the texture and

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 1>fuels Jennifer Walter stories, and so you know, selfishly, I

0:28:59.880 --> 0:29:02.080
<v Speaker 1>just hope we see a lot of I think.

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<v Speaker 2>The tone of the trailer up it hints at that.

0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:07.880
<v Speaker 2>It hints like her and Bruce in the bar. There's

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 2>like a comedy and she obviously a climate just like

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:13.479
<v Speaker 2>in the comic. She acclimates very well to being in

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 2>her She hoped form because that's how she chooses to be. Yeah,

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 2>and it looks like from the trailer that's going to

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:20.480
<v Speaker 2>be the case for most of the show.

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, we can't wait for this one up next. Let's

0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:31.320
<v Speaker 1>welcome in our super producer Chris to talk about the

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Halo series and the finale of the Halo series, which

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 1>recently aired on Paramount Plus. Chris, there, tell us about Halo.

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<v Speaker 5>I have to say, overall, it was a little bit disappointing.

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 4>I know, we were all pretty optimistic after the first episode, like, okay,

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:54.720
<v Speaker 4>the covenentary here they're teasing, like the conflicts with the colonies,

0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 4>the unsc are, the kind of the.

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 5>Bad guys, Like there is potential.

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<v Speaker 4>And I have to say that in the whole series,

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 4>about twenty minutes like really good Halo stuff in there.

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:06.320
<v Speaker 5>But those twenty minutes, I have to say, are really good.

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<v Speaker 1>I here is my takeaway. I haven't watched the finale yet,

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:14.960
<v Speaker 1>but I've watched like the first five episodes. My takeaway

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 1>is that very very clearly eighty percent of the budget

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 1>went to the pilot and then yeah, immediately thereafter, it

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 1>fucking falls off in terms of like scope, in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of what they're and and the storytelling kind of takes

0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 1>a hit after that. So when you say not a

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:40.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of quote unquote Halo stuff, what do you what

0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 1>do you? What do you mean?

0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 4>Like, you know, I think there's always a question of

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:47.400
<v Speaker 4>why even adapt, Like what more can you really gain

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:50.040
<v Speaker 4>out of doing a film when the games are pretty cinematic.

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 4>I think the one big thing you can do is

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 4>you can show just what incredible soldiers and fighters and

0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 4>like combatants everyone is, all these Spartans are. That's more

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 4>than just a first person POV holding a gun. You know,

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 4>like these fights should look you know, crazy, you know,

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 4>I mean, like maybe not quite the Raid, which is like,

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, we talked about like what is actually.

0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 2>The TV show tried to look like the Raid? That

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 2>would make me very.

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:17.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just like let's see, like let's really see like

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 4>great fight choreography, and the first episode to get a

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 4>bit of that, as you do in five. Then the finale,

0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 4>like finale, you finally get you know, Silver Team, the

0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 4>four Spartans going up against this massive wave of Covenant

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, almost feels like like the firefight situation on

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:35.960
<v Speaker 4>like ODST like Horde mode, Hord mode exactly, yeah, like

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 4>and it's honestly like, the fight's really good, and they

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 4>finally bring in a little bit of the Halo theme,

0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 4>which I think is just like one of the coolest themes.

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 4>I absolutely love it so much. And it's it's really

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 4>really fun And yeah, Jason, your point, you feel like, oh,

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:50.240
<v Speaker 4>this is where they spent all the budget was like

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 4>on these like three really big epic fight sequences. You know,

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:56.520
<v Speaker 4>in episode five, we see I think it's John, we

0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 4>see one of the Spartans like jump on top of

0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 4>a bansheet. Right, It's like, okay, like this is point

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:01.760
<v Speaker 4>except from the game that's really un exciting.

0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 5>You know for those that have read those books, you.

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:08.120
<v Speaker 4>Know, the Eric Nyland novels, which you've talked about, there's

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 4>a lot of really great lore in there, and they

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 4>just kind of jettisoned all of that. Like I really

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 4>wanted to see the Spartans as a kind of family, yea.

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 5>Like one of the tragedies of reading those books is whenever.

0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 4>They lose one of their soldiers, like you know, they're

0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 4>kind of programmed to be emotionally uneffective.

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 5>You can tell it hurts them when they lose one

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 5>of their own.

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 4>And they didn't really go there either, Like that could

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 4>have been a really great heart of the story, and

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:32.840
<v Speaker 4>I feel like they kind of skirted around that for

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 4>just a lot of really generic and room conversations.

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Something else that is kind of not haloy is. Master

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Chief got his dick wet.

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 3>Master Chief the cherry, the cherry got popped.

0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 1>He got out of his armor and got into something

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot more comfortable.

0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 3>And the reason that fans.

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Are upset, like hardcore, you know, the fans who have

0:32:57.600 --> 0:33:00.120
<v Speaker 1>read the books and are up on the lore is

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 1>is part of the Spartan The Spartan training program is

0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 1>fucking brutal. Like when you read the Nyland books, you're like,

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 1>holy shit, this is terrible they did. It's terrible what

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 1>they did to these kids to train them to be

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 1>these uh super soldiers. And part of that is they

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 1>injected them with various steroids and drugs. And part of

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 1>that medical regimen was, uh that their sex drive was

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, medicinally depressed. It was like basically like lowered

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 1>to nothing because they didn't want Spartans having any kind

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:43.680
<v Speaker 1>of like emotional and or physical connection to anyone. They

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 1>just wanted them to be like killing machines and uh.

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 1>And then guess what master Chief had sex the show?

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 1>How was it? Did you did you were you? Were

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 1>you upset by it as a Halo fan? And how

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 1>is you know what did we see what happened there.

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I it felt a little bit out of character,

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 4>but I wasn't upset about it. I'm like, Okay, I

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:12.600
<v Speaker 4>get what they're doing.

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 6>You know.

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 4>They's like, Okay, I get what they're trying to do here.

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:16.319
<v Speaker 4>They're trying to give him a romance with this other

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:19.479
<v Speaker 4>character McKee. You know, I'm never going to complain about

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:21.840
<v Speaker 4>Pablo Schreiver being naked, which is a few times in

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 4>this year congratulation, looking great, looking absolutely.

0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 3>Happy to see a bum Yeah.

0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 4>As was I like, there's something you're too except as budshots,

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 4>they're fantastic. So from that respect, I've like, okay, I'm

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:38.160
<v Speaker 4>on board with this. It definitely didn't make me upset.

0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:40.359
<v Speaker 4>It just felt a little bit, i don't know, kind

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:42.400
<v Speaker 4>of unnecessary. It definite felt a little bit out of character.

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:44.440
<v Speaker 4>And it's like, it's not going to make me angry

0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 4>that they change things. Like this part of an adaptation,

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:48.360
<v Speaker 4>you gotta change things. But I didn't think it necessarily

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:49.720
<v Speaker 4>added a lot to the story.

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:51.479
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like it's actually a bit of a missed

0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 2>opportunity because that's such a tragic and kind of brutal

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:56.479
<v Speaker 2>bit of law that they could have done a scene

0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 2>where it's like an intimacy scene that isn't to do

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:01.720
<v Speaker 2>with fucking, and that could have been like a really

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 2>interesting and motive way to explore like that side of

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 2>the past, and that.

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Kind of actually a great Yeah, it's actually a really

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Speaker 1>great and tragic plot device where it's like you know,

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:17.759
<v Speaker 1>he he can't like, yeah, he can't do that. You

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:20.239
<v Speaker 1>find other ways of being intimate like that.

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:23.399
<v Speaker 2>I think that's a shape that kind of like it's

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:25.799
<v Speaker 2>I really like the first couple of episodes, I felt

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 2>like it was like really ambitious, weird sci fi storytelling.

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:31.319
<v Speaker 2>But I just think it's a shame because I think

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 2>like if you can't keep that going for those little

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:40.480
<v Speaker 2>moments when you could do something that's really like emotionally

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:43.959
<v Speaker 2>powerful like that, then it you.

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 3>Know, does it hit basically like you said, did it

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:46.960
<v Speaker 3>left you?

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 2>You watched it and you were like, eh, nice.

0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:51.560
<v Speaker 5>To see it, but like yeah, it just felt generic,

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 5>you know.

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 4>And I think that was the big disappointment this the

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 4>series is that for me, Halo's never felt generic. It's

0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 4>always been kind of special, and like the Master Chief,

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 4>despite being kind of like kind of a.

0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 5>Blank canvas, has always felt special. Too, and this was

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:03.600
<v Speaker 5>just like.

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Eh, is there anything that you would want to see

0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 2>them do in like a second season that would redeem

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:12.279
<v Speaker 2>it or like interesting exploring.

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:15.360
<v Speaker 4>I'm not like totally writing it off, you know, like

0:36:15.480 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 4>every series takes a little bit of time to get

0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:20.360
<v Speaker 4>its footing, and if they are going to push it

0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:22.400
<v Speaker 4>more towards like those sort of battle sequences like we

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:25.759
<v Speaker 4>saw here, maybe fewer episodes, bigger scope and scale, more

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:27.840
<v Speaker 4>fight with the Covenant, which requires more budget than I

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:30.799
<v Speaker 4>actually think there is some potential here. It's like there

0:36:30.880 --> 0:36:32.839
<v Speaker 4>was just enough here for me to want to keep

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 4>going and be a little bit disappointed. But I would say, like,

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 4>you know, I can't say it's any better than any

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:40.240
<v Speaker 4>other Halo thing. They can't be like, hey, like dedicated

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:41.840
<v Speaker 4>nine hours this thing instead of reading one of the

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 4>books or playing one of the games. But I think

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:46.960
<v Speaker 4>in a second season, with a bit more money, we

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 4>can see more of like that big scale comming because

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:52.360
<v Speaker 4>the Covenant are barely in it, unfortunately, And I was

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 4>hoping that the villains were too expense too expensive, and

0:36:56.040 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 4>it was good, like honestly, yeah, the Covenant looked good

0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:00.480
<v Speaker 4>when they bring him in there, you know, and they

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 4>bring in little nods the game, like you know, we

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:04.040
<v Speaker 4>see them like initially stealthily take out a bunch of

0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:05.879
<v Speaker 4>grunts by hitting them the head, Like Okay, we've all

0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:09.280
<v Speaker 4>done this, we're going so I think maybe a little

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:11.240
<v Speaker 4>bit more of that and I could be on board.

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:14.759
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm actually looking forward to catching up on this.

0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's one of the things I do in the

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:23.280
<v Speaker 1>throes of COVID nineteen, the novel coronavirus. Up next the airlock,

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:27.840
<v Speaker 1>where we'll tell you about what we do when we're sick.

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the airlock. Stay on the other side of it, folks,

0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:50.799
<v Speaker 1>because because your hosts today Rosie and I have been

0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 1>stricken with the novel coronavirus COVID nineteen, and so you're

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:55.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna want to stay on the other side of that

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:59.040
<v Speaker 1>airlock so that you don't catch it. And today in

0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:01.839
<v Speaker 1>the airlock, we're going to talk about the things that

0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:07.279
<v Speaker 1>we as a team super producers Chris and Saul, Hey,

0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Rosie and I do when we're sick. What do we watch,

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 1>what do we do, what do we read? What are

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:20.239
<v Speaker 1>the things that comfort us and get us through this?

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 1>This really horrific fucking feeling that we're feeling right now, Rosie,

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:26.440
<v Speaker 1>let's start with you. What are you been doing in

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:28.840
<v Speaker 1>the time? By the way, let me let's just start

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 1>with this. I texted on Monday like, hey, I have COVID, Like,

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:37.719
<v Speaker 1>let's cancel the pre pro meeting. YadA, YadA, YadA. And

0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:41.239
<v Speaker 1>you're like, I'm glad that you tell It's funny you

0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:44.959
<v Speaker 1>should text right now because I too have COVID, And yes,

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:50.120
<v Speaker 1>let's definitely push the meeting. So when did you When

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:51.839
<v Speaker 1>did you start feeling it? And what have you been

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:52.600
<v Speaker 1>doing since then?

0:38:53.080 --> 0:39:00.160
<v Speaker 2>Like Thursday ish and then Friday was really the the day.

0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 2>But it's just it's only gone worse, baby, It's only

0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:04.120
<v Speaker 2>gotten worse.

0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:08.359
<v Speaker 3>So I'm I have been. I luckily I had actually just.

0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Incidentally kind of like taken some time off to like

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'm gonna do some writing, I'm gonna

0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 2>like do some stuff.

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:18.920
<v Speaker 3>I had my mom visit and and then.

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:21.359
<v Speaker 2>Lo and behold, it just ended up working out because

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:23.080
<v Speaker 2>it meant I could just not I could just lay

0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:27.000
<v Speaker 2>around and and and rest. And one of the things

0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:29.959
<v Speaker 2>that I did that was very comforting that we haven't

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:33.480
<v Speaker 2>talked about yet. Somehow that is easily up there with

0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:34.600
<v Speaker 2>like my favorite shows.

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:36.759
<v Speaker 3>Of the year was I finished Our Flagman's Death.

0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:38.480
<v Speaker 5>It's a great show.

0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:39.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've been.

0:39:39.160 --> 0:39:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Saving like the last two episodes because.

0:39:41.680 --> 0:39:43.120
<v Speaker 3>I didn't want it to be finished.

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Don't spoil the finale because there is some really great

0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 1>The finale has some great stuff.

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm just gonna I'm not even gonna really spoil anything.

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:53.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna tell you why it's good and you

0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:54.200
<v Speaker 3>should watch it.

0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 2>So it's it's the much lauded Taiko w t t

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:04.800
<v Speaker 2>produce starring Pirate show and it is just like, along

0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:07.200
<v Speaker 2>with Abbott Elementary, another one of my favorite shows of

0:40:07.200 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 2>the year.

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:08.920
<v Speaker 3>It is like the.

0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:15.560
<v Speaker 2>Funniest, like kindest, sweetest, weirdest show, and the cast is

0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:20.080
<v Speaker 2>incredible and the writing is funny, and it's just like

0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:22.920
<v Speaker 2>one of those half hour comedies where you're just like, damn,

0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:25.440
<v Speaker 2>I wish I had made this because it is like

0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:29.640
<v Speaker 2>so so surprising, but it's also very cozy. It has

0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:33.359
<v Speaker 2>like I was sending around everyone who was like saying

0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:35.680
<v Speaker 2>that they enjoyed it. I was like, there's this old

0:40:35.719 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 2>English tradition of like weird musical kids shows, and one

0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:42.399
<v Speaker 2>of them was called Maid Marian and her merry Men,

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:44.480
<v Speaker 2>and it was done by the guys who made Black

0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:46.120
<v Speaker 2>at Her And when I was a kid, like I

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:48.279
<v Speaker 2>always think about that, And the opening of the first

0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:51.160
<v Speaker 2>show is this guy singing like a reggae song about

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:53.560
<v Speaker 2>like mud and how how terrible it is to be

0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 2>a peasant in like Britain. And this show has that

0:40:58.160 --> 0:41:02.080
<v Speaker 2>same like weird Britainish musical kids show energy, like it

0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:05.240
<v Speaker 2>has some it is for adults, like, it's got some violence,

0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:08.200
<v Speaker 2>but but generally you're just like, this is like a

0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:13.440
<v Speaker 2>really funny kids show but made for people my age.

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:18.040
<v Speaker 4>It's surprisingly wholesome. Oh it's whole for being pirates. Yeah, like, oh,

0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:19.720
<v Speaker 4>this is actually like really nice.

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Saul, what are you? What do you? What do you watch?

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:24.960
<v Speaker 1>What is your go to when you're sick?

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 6>It's a good question. I think my go to when

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:30.960
<v Speaker 6>I'm sick is probably like, I want something really comforting

0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:34.880
<v Speaker 6>and comfortable, nothing like complicated. I want to minimize complexity,

0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 6>and I want, I mean, like the familiar. It is

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:39.719
<v Speaker 6>hard to beat, Like, I want something relatively familiar, so

0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:43.120
<v Speaker 6>I'll often rewatch. I gotta say, when I was a kid,

0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:45.480
<v Speaker 6>and this is actually still true, my mom would take

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 6>me to work with her when I was really sick,

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:49.320
<v Speaker 6>and I would just sit in her office and watch

0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:52.760
<v Speaker 6>on her Like other computer watch movies, The Ocean's Trilogy

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:54.680
<v Speaker 6>would be something I.

0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:57.760
<v Speaker 3>Watch Ultimate comfort Watch.

0:41:58.040 --> 0:41:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like that's a great one.

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:02.600
<v Speaker 6>Watching Brad Pitt and especially Brad Pitt. I love Brad Pitt,

0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:04.440
<v Speaker 6>But watching brad Pitt and Clooney just like sort of

0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:08.400
<v Speaker 6>like stylishly solve problems and like do it with no

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:11.799
<v Speaker 6>issues at all. It's just like very pleasing. I'm like this,

0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:14.920
<v Speaker 6>it's complicated, but it's so not complicated. They make it

0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:16.279
<v Speaker 6>too easy. That's what I want life to be.

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:20.319
<v Speaker 2>Like this stakes the high but love watch it and

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:23.080
<v Speaker 2>you're like they're stealing a lot, but this is not stressful.

0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:25.799
<v Speaker 3>This is relaxing. I'm glad to be involved in this.

0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:29.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm like, this is good. One hundred million dollars.

0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:30.040
<v Speaker 1>I want that.

0:42:30.200 --> 0:42:31.720
<v Speaker 3>This is great. If only, if only.

0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:34.480
<v Speaker 5>This could be so easy?

0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Chris, what is your go to sick content?

0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:42.440
<v Speaker 4>I think if I'm sick, probably the first movie I

0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 4>put on is probably the movie I've seen the most

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 4>of my entire life, which is The Great Mouse Detective, Like.

0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:52.759
<v Speaker 3>The Respect to Basil. That's the one I.

0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:55.680
<v Speaker 4>Mean, yeah, you know, and and Vincent Price's Radigan is

0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:58.920
<v Speaker 4>like one of the all time great camp villains. And

0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:02.920
<v Speaker 4>I've watched the movie probably three or four times a year.

0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 4>I ever just like feeling like a little bit like

0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 4>hungover or sick whatever.

0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:06.600
<v Speaker 5>Ikay thrown that on.

0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:10.400
<v Speaker 4>And when I actually I had COVID back in October

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:13.279
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty, you know, pre vaccine, when it was like

0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:15.239
<v Speaker 4>you can't go anywhere, do anything, you don't know how

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:17.479
<v Speaker 4>long you're gonna be six. I basically quarantined for three

0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:20.200
<v Speaker 4>weeks more or less, and I caught up in a

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:24.480
<v Speaker 4>lot of Batman comics. I reread the Cataclysm in No

0:43:24.600 --> 0:43:27.719
<v Speaker 4>Man's Lam arc, but I went and tracked down like

0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:29.840
<v Speaker 4>all the side issues that were included in like the

0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:33.440
<v Speaker 4>trade collective versions that I had in the nineties, you know,

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:36.480
<v Speaker 4>thank you for was it DC Infinity or whatever?

0:43:36.880 --> 0:43:40.840
<v Speaker 5>That was fantastic, And then I started, yeah, but it is, yeah, no,

0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:42.080
<v Speaker 5>it was really excellent.

0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:43.520
<v Speaker 4>I caught up on a lot of comics, and then

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:45.120
<v Speaker 4>the other thing I did was I got back into

0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:49.560
<v Speaker 4>building custom lego sets I hadn't done in probably like

0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:51.879
<v Speaker 4>a decade or so, and I just had a bunch

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 4>of pieces line around, and so for the first time

0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:55.360
<v Speaker 4>in a long time, I built like a little custom

0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:57.640
<v Speaker 4>batmobile and a little tumbler, and I was like, Oh,

0:43:57.719 --> 0:43:59.719
<v Speaker 4>I'm actually really really proud of how these came out.

0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:02.040
<v Speaker 4>This is pretty great. Yeah, I just like sat my

0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:04.160
<v Speaker 4>apartment for three weeks and buil Legos and red comics

0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:05.080
<v Speaker 4>and it was sound.

0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:08.320
<v Speaker 5>Honestly it was. It was part of me. Part of

0:44:08.360 --> 0:44:11.239
<v Speaker 5>me kind of misses it now at this point that

0:44:11.239 --> 0:44:11.920
<v Speaker 5>that era.

0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:15.040
<v Speaker 2>Of like weird Disney movies from like what they were

0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:17.560
<v Speaker 2>seeing as like a flop era, they definitely come to me.

0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Like one of my ultimate ones is The Black Cauldron.

0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:25.279
<v Speaker 2>I watched that culture and and it's so scary and

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:29.960
<v Speaker 2>weird and like just off key, but it's so comforting.

0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:34.600
<v Speaker 2>And that definitely like that Basso Mass Detective. Like Disney

0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Plus in that way has kind of been a blessing

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:38.719
<v Speaker 2>and a curse because they have they have all those

0:44:38.800 --> 0:44:41.480
<v Speaker 2>a lot of those vaulted movies, but they also used

0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:43.800
<v Speaker 2>to just be free to rent from the library services

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:47.359
<v Speaker 2>because like nobody wanted them, but it's easier to find

0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:48.320
<v Speaker 2>them on Disney Plus.

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:49.919
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know, that's that's a great call.

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:53.680
<v Speaker 5>They were dark too, like a black.

0:44:53.440 --> 0:44:55.400
<v Speaker 2>Coldin is like legitimately terrifying.

0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:57.799
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like it freaked me out, Like it's still to

0:44:57.800 --> 0:44:59.400
<v Speaker 4>this day, Like there's a part of my brain that

0:44:59.440 --> 0:45:01.640
<v Speaker 4>like shivers little bit whenever Fidget busts to the window,

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:03.680
<v Speaker 4>Like I should still be scared by this all these

0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:04.239
<v Speaker 4>years later.

0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:06.319
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they're like they're dark and cool. I really like

0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:08.520
<v Speaker 5>that era. Actually the one for me like that was

0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:09.200
<v Speaker 5>Page Master.

0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

0:45:10.360 --> 0:45:14.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah yeah, yeah so scary.

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:17.600
<v Speaker 6>The mister Hyde was so scary to me, Like just

0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:20.040
<v Speaker 6>like the I don't know all of the streaky, but

0:45:20.080 --> 0:45:21.960
<v Speaker 6>like you just kind of like want more of it.

0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:23.600
<v Speaker 6>It feels like a version of a fever a little bit,

0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:25.480
<v Speaker 6>like let me just try to like get get the

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:26.279
<v Speaker 6>bad stuff out.

0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:26.719
<v Speaker 5>Dude.

0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Joe Johnston, he's a pretty legit Comfort Watchers director actually,

0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:34.239
<v Speaker 2>because he directed Rocketeer and now brilliant Rocketeer.

0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Shouts to Rocketeer right shouts a. Shouts to Jennifer Connelly,

0:45:40.440 --> 0:45:47.000
<v Speaker 1>my always my first wife is fantastic in The Rocketeer,

0:45:47.080 --> 0:45:50.120
<v Speaker 1>A movie that should have been like a hit but

0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:50.839
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a hit.

0:45:51.360 --> 0:45:53.720
<v Speaker 5>Fun movie, really fun, super fun.

0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:57.560
<v Speaker 2>There's no way Captain America exists the First Avenger directed

0:45:57.560 --> 0:45:57.879
<v Speaker 2>by him.

0:45:57.880 --> 0:46:00.600
<v Speaker 3>If that movie didn't exist, Hey, right, yeah.

0:46:00.800 --> 0:46:07.320
<v Speaker 1>He's completely I've been rewatching it, like I've rewatched The

0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:15.799
<v Speaker 1>Succession season two episode turn Haven, today, episodes of television,

0:46:17.840 --> 0:46:19.640
<v Speaker 1>and I've been reading a lot. But I think that

0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:23.200
<v Speaker 1>I've been like catching up on a lot of TV.

0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:26.359
<v Speaker 1>And one of the shows that I'm really enjoying right

0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:28.920
<v Speaker 1>now is killing it on Peacock.

0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:31.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, the Craig Robinson Show.

0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:38.320
<v Speaker 1>It stars Craig Robinson, created by Luke del Tredici and

0:46:38.400 --> 0:46:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Dan Gore, and it is Craig Robinson is a like

0:46:45.200 --> 0:46:52.759
<v Speaker 1>down on his luck dude who enters a like a

0:46:52.920 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Boa constrictor catching contest in the Everglades. Now, because like

0:47:00.400 --> 0:47:02.719
<v Speaker 1>the setup here is that I'm sure we've all read

0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:05.640
<v Speaker 1>these stories where like people who couldn't handle their snakes

0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:08.439
<v Speaker 1>in the in the you know, Everglade region, they would

0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:10.759
<v Speaker 1>just like let them go into like the swamps and shit,

0:47:11.440 --> 0:47:14.680
<v Speaker 1>and now they're like a threat to the environment and

0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:18.160
<v Speaker 1>so they have to be caught. And so there's like

0:47:18.200 --> 0:47:25.000
<v Speaker 1>this twenty thousand dollars contest for whoever catches the most

0:47:25.040 --> 0:47:29.960
<v Speaker 1>snakes in the swamps. And of course, like that is

0:47:30.000 --> 0:47:34.000
<v Speaker 1>the exact amount of money that Craig Robinson's character needs

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:38.759
<v Speaker 1>to get out of the jam he's in. And it's like,

0:47:40.640 --> 0:47:44.239
<v Speaker 1>first of all, the cast is great. Craig Robinson as

0:47:44.560 --> 0:47:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Craig He's Craig Robinson has reached the Tony Danza. All

0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:52.680
<v Speaker 1>my characters are named my name level of like TV

0:47:52.800 --> 0:47:56.960
<v Speaker 1>acticts the Pizza Hut money. Yeah, Claudio Darity as Gillian,

0:47:57.000 --> 0:48:01.320
<v Speaker 1>who I just chat from our Wagman's death and love

0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:04.480
<v Speaker 1>and from other things. She's just like fantastic and so funny.

0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Lily Sullivan from The Righteous Gemstones and season one of

0:48:08.400 --> 0:48:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I think you should leave. Uh. Tim Heidecker as like

0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:19.560
<v Speaker 1>as like Tom Cruise's character from Magnolia. Like, it's so

0:48:20.719 --> 0:48:23.239
<v Speaker 1>the casting is really great, And first of all, I

0:48:23.320 --> 0:48:25.680
<v Speaker 1>was not aware on Peacock that you could curse and shit,

0:48:25.760 --> 0:48:29.040
<v Speaker 1>So there's like a lot it's like adult, but it

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:34.560
<v Speaker 1>also deals with like it's a show about people on

0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:38.600
<v Speaker 1>the lowest rungs of the socioeconomic gladder who've been left

0:48:38.640 --> 0:48:43.480
<v Speaker 1>behind by capitalism and who are just like trying to

0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:48.680
<v Speaker 1>get by. And part of the way, part of the

0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:51.640
<v Speaker 1>journey of the show is, you know, along with all

0:48:51.640 --> 0:48:54.040
<v Speaker 1>the snake catching and all of like hilarity and wild

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:56.239
<v Speaker 1>stuff that happens. Is like they all kind of like

0:48:56.360 --> 0:48:59.839
<v Speaker 1>bond together into this community as a way to get by.

0:48:59.840 --> 0:49:02.359
<v Speaker 1>It's just a really really funny show. It's really fun.

0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:07.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm enjoying it. It's not like anything else that's out

0:49:07.920 --> 0:49:10.880
<v Speaker 1>there in the same way that Abbot and in Our

0:49:10.920 --> 0:49:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Flag Means death feel really singular and unique killing. It

0:49:15.280 --> 0:49:17.600
<v Speaker 1>feels like that really fun showing.

0:49:18.719 --> 0:49:19.400
<v Speaker 5>I love that.

0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:21.359
<v Speaker 4>That's what streaming has given us now, is you can

0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:23.480
<v Speaker 4>go super niche like that and just produce like a

0:49:23.520 --> 0:49:26.200
<v Speaker 4>short ten episode series. It's like for a very ci

0:49:26.480 --> 0:49:28.960
<v Speaker 4>audience that discover and love it and it can just

0:49:29.040 --> 0:49:31.560
<v Speaker 4>exist and be awesome and not have to be twenty

0:49:31.560 --> 0:49:33.600
<v Speaker 4>two episodes and appeal to everybody all the time.

0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:36.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I really like that, Like these Found family

0:49:36.360 --> 0:49:39.840
<v Speaker 2>stories are becoming like such a trope now, and I

0:49:39.840 --> 0:49:42.680
<v Speaker 2>think it's because like people our age grew up with,

0:49:42.719 --> 0:49:45.040
<v Speaker 2>like some of the ultimate Found families, you know, like

0:49:45.120 --> 0:49:48.120
<v Speaker 2>the X Men and stuff like that, And I I

0:49:48.239 --> 0:49:50.880
<v Speaker 2>just it makes me really happy to see shows that

0:49:50.920 --> 0:49:54.200
<v Speaker 2>are being made at a prestige TV level where that

0:49:54.640 --> 0:49:58.880
<v Speaker 2>discovery of community for whatever reason whether it's socio economic

0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:01.920
<v Speaker 2>or sexuality or just living like on the outside of society.

0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:05.200
<v Speaker 2>That's become such a cool part of TV now, and

0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:07.560
<v Speaker 2>that's definitely like one of my comfort tropes.

0:50:08.160 --> 0:50:09.640
<v Speaker 3>So it's really nice to.

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:12.479
<v Speaker 6>See Guardians the Galaxy. I watch that movie all the time.

0:50:12.600 --> 0:50:14.520
<v Speaker 6>Another Ultimate Found Family movie.

0:50:14.640 --> 0:50:16.680
<v Speaker 1>That's a great one. I will go on Disney Plus

0:50:16.760 --> 0:50:19.800
<v Speaker 1>and just watch scenes from Marvel movies way too much,

0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:21.640
<v Speaker 1>Like even when I'm not sick, I do that all

0:50:21.640 --> 0:50:23.920
<v Speaker 1>the time. I really do that all the time. And

0:50:23.960 --> 0:50:26.719
<v Speaker 1>it's it's sad, and I don't like to talk about it,

0:50:26.760 --> 0:50:28.920
<v Speaker 1>but I do. I do that constantly.

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<v Speaker 2>I do Captain America picking up Thor's hammer.

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<v Speaker 3>That's like but once a week probably, And.

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<v Speaker 1>Like listen, one of the greatest scenes in the entire

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<v Speaker 1>MCU is the before as Ultron is like knitting his

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<v Speaker 1>consciousness together, and they're all and the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>Avengers are just like partying on at Stark Tower. The

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<v Speaker 1>iOS just like hanging out, and that is like so fun.

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<v Speaker 1>That is such a fun scene. Everybody drinking like Thor's

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<v Speaker 1>thousand year old dorog, you know, seeing who could pick

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<v Speaker 1>up Thort's hammer, roasting Roadie for being like a Kmart superhero.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that. Some So that's the good stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>And I love Black Widow's response like, oh, that's not

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<v Speaker 4>a question I any answered.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, oh, yeah, that's that's perfect for her character.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, no, I don't want to know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, listen, hopefully this will be over soon, Rosie.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe in us.

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<v Speaker 1>You've you've been dealing with since Thursday. I've been dealing

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<v Speaker 1>it with since Saturday. Although, as I told my primary

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<v Speaker 1>care doctor, because I'm lucky enough to have health insurance

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's the thing that everybody in this

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<v Speaker 1>country should just have. Yes, definitely, there was like a

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<v Speaker 1>two to three maybe four day period where it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, my allergies are bad. So you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to yeah, it's hard to say, it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to know, but I'm going to say Saturday, and so

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully this is over soon. I know that there. I

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<v Speaker 1>know that there's probably some people yelling at their speakers

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Get that anti viral pa Sloffett or whatever

0:52:14.200 --> 0:52:17.160
<v Speaker 1>it's called. I tried, let me tell you, folks, I tried.

0:52:17.600 --> 0:52:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I did. I was like, hey, what about that anti viral.

0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I've been hearing about and they didn't want to give

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<v Speaker 1>it to me because I guess my symptoms aren't bad enough,

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<v Speaker 1>and I respect it. There's probably people who really really

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<v Speaker 1>require it. They are giving that out for anybody in

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<v Speaker 1>New York. I believe that's free. If you get that prescribed,

0:52:33.360 --> 0:52:34.920
<v Speaker 1>you can get that for free. I guess they just

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of it over there.

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<v Speaker 3>That's amazing in New York's sitience.

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<v Speaker 1>But hopefully this will be over soon and we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>back with you by our next episode, fully whole and

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<v Speaker 1>well and certainly finished with our journey to full recovery.

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<v Speaker 1>Up next the outro, It's a big thank you to

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<v Speaker 1>Rosie Night. Chris Lord and Saw Roumin are super producers

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<v Speaker 1>for joining us and helping us carry through the episode

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<v Speaker 1>on X ray vision as Rosie and I are dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with reduced lung capacity. Rosie, what do you have to plug?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, depending on how I'm feeling this weekend, I may

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<v Speaker 2>or may not be there, but do remember that there

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<v Speaker 2>is an amazing Transformers Day event at Pop Fiction in

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<v Speaker 2>Long Beach, which is my local comic shop.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be a ton of cool artists there.

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<v Speaker 2>You can get some brad Transformers comics on sale. Even

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm not there, I'll make sure some of my

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<v Speaker 2>zines and stuff are there that you can pick up,

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<v Speaker 2>and it will just be a really good time. I

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<v Speaker 2>dream that I will be well, but it feels like

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<v Speaker 2>I will never be well, so I'm not promising anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, we're gonna get there.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna do it. We can do it, and we

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<v Speaker 1>can do it, folks, don't forget to check out our

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<v Speaker 1>videos on Cultured YouTube channel and the show notes for

0:54:04.480 --> 0:54:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the listener's Guide to X ray Vision, where we provide

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<v Speaker 1>more details about the stuff we talk about on each episode,

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<v Speaker 1>including this one. Our next episode will be on May

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventh, by which time we hope to be fully

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<v Speaker 1>whole and well and our body's free of the novel

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<v Speaker 1>X ray Vision is a Crooked Media production. The show

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<v Speaker 1>is produced by Chris Lord and Saalrubin. The show is

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<v Speaker 1>executive produced by myself and Sandy garhard Our, Editing and

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you Brian Vasquez for a theme music. See you

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<v Speaker 1>next time.