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Speaker 1: That's all. Thank you. Hello. My name is Jason Getsepsion

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Speaker 1: and I'm currently in the throes of the novel coronavirus

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Speaker 1: COVID nineteen, which I tested positive for last weekend and

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Speaker 1: not only am I suffering from the novel coronavirus COVID nineteen,

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Speaker 1: the number one comics writer, pop historian in the game today,

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Speaker 1: Rosie Night, Rosie, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I also have novel coronavirus aka COVID nineteen, and somehow

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Speaker 3: Point, Rosie, because here's what I have this happened.

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Speaker 1: You can read the news and the COVID.

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Speaker 3: Is rampant right now, people wear your masks.

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Speaker 1: I've been to numerous places over the last you know,

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Speaker 1: It's very bad, folks. It's snarley. Don't get it, and

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Speaker 1: we say ask be safe and take care of yourselves

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Speaker 2: this is going to continue the Hawkeye tradition, not just

436
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 2: in tone, but in branding and reshaping the Netflix Marvel

437
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 2: shows as something for.

438
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 3: The main MCU.

439
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: It's quite likely we might see Matt Murdock here. He

440
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: too is a lawyer, and him and Jennifer have worked

441
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: alongside each other and something else that you just made

442
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 2: me realize when we're talking about this. It could work

443
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 2: as it could work in the same way the Netflix

444
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: shows worked, which is when you actually watch those shows,

445
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 2: they introduced so many comic book characters because they needed

446
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 2: like a living community like Luke Cage, so many characters,

447
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 2: and no MCU show has really done that. Hawkeye used

448
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 2: names of characters, but it wasn't actually they didn't become

449
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: those characters as we knew them. She could be a

450
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 2: way of introducing a new I mean, if they wanted

451
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: to do it like a procedural, you could have a

452
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: new character that she's looking after every week, you know,

453
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 2: and it would be a way to build out that community.

454
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: It would be very funny, kind of funny. And some

455
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: of them, you know, you have her defending a hero,

456
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: you have her defending a villain, you have a kind

457
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: of building that moral compass and like that the Charles

458
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 2: Saul run that you were talking about with Havia as

459
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 2: amazing art, Like that's the one where she defends the

460
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 2: son of Doctor Doom and she and Captain America. Yes,

461
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 2: you know, so there's all different kinds of ways that

462
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: you can explore that. And I think that looking to

463
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 2: those two, this one has her face down with Matt Murdoch,

464
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: like Deadpool is in this, and there's a holiday party,

465
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 2: so you get that fun space. I just think this

466
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: could be a launch pad for building out those weirder,

467
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: smaller superhero roles.

468
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again I wonder if we it'd be cool

469
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 1: to get a hellcare drop in this. Hellcat one of

470
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: the oldest Marvel character. I mean, going back to the forties,

471
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: like this is like as like fucking Marvel fashion.

472
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 3: Fashion cocks really incredible times.

473
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: People forget those old days when women were seen as

474
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 2: a as a truly large part half of the market.

475
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: So they had romance comics, they had fashion comics, and

476
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 2: that's where Patsy Walker, who became Patsy Walker Hellcat came from.

477
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 2: And she was in the Jessica Jones show in a

478
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 2: kind of reimagined version, But this version of she Hulks

479
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 2: seems like a better place to to bring in a

480
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 2: different version of her. There was a she Cat. There

481
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 2: was a hell Cat comic with incredible art by Brittany

482
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: Williams a few years ago, and that was very much

483
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,239
Speaker 2: like Sheahawks having a party at the office and like,

484
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: look at all these different characters who are here, and

485
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: oh no, who are you gonna have to defend?

486
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 3: Is it gonna be?

487
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: Like? That's what I love about Seahawks stories. And that's

488
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: why I hope, and that's why I sit because it

489
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: is really such an important part of the texture and

490
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: fuels Jennifer Walter stories, and so you know, selfishly, I

491
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: just hope we see a lot of I think.

492
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: The tone of the trailer up it hints at that.

493
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: It hints like her and Bruce in the bar. There's

494
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 2: like a comedy and she obviously a climate just like

495
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,479
Speaker 2: in the comic. She acclimates very well to being in

496
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: her She hoped form because that's how she chooses to be. Yeah,

497
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: and it looks like from the trailer that's going to

498
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 2: be the case for most of the show.

499
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: Well, we can't wait for this one up next. Let's

500
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: welcome in our super producer Chris to talk about the

501
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: Halo series and the finale of the Halo series, which

502
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: recently aired on Paramount Plus. Chris, there, tell us about Halo.

503
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 5: I have to say, overall, it was a little bit disappointing.

504
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 4: I know, we were all pretty optimistic after the first episode, like, okay,

505
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 4: the covenentary here they're teasing, like the conflicts with the colonies,

506
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 4: the unsc are, the kind of the.

507
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 5: Bad guys, Like there is potential.

508
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 4: And I have to say that in the whole series,

509
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 4: about twenty minutes like really good Halo stuff in there.

510
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 5: But those twenty minutes, I have to say, are really good.

511
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: I here is my takeaway. I haven't watched the finale yet,

512
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: but I've watched like the first five episodes. My takeaway

513
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: is that very very clearly eighty percent of the budget

514
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: went to the pilot and then yeah, immediately thereafter, it

515
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: fucking falls off in terms of like scope, in terms

516
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: of what they're and and the storytelling kind of takes

517
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: a hit after that. So when you say not a

518
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: lot of quote unquote Halo stuff, what do you what

519
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: do you? What do you mean?

520
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 4: Like, you know, I think there's always a question of

521
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 4: why even adapt, Like what more can you really gain

522
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 4: out of doing a film when the games are pretty cinematic.

523
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 4: I think the one big thing you can do is

524
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 4: you can show just what incredible soldiers and fighters and

525
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 4: like combatants everyone is, all these Spartans are. That's more

526
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 4: than just a first person POV holding a gun. You know,

527
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 4: like these fights should look you know, crazy, you know,

528
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 4: I mean, like maybe not quite the Raid, which is like,

529
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 4: you know, we talked about like what is actually.

530
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: The TV show tried to look like the Raid? That

531
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: would make me very.

532
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, just like let's see, like let's really see like

533
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 4: great fight choreography, and the first episode to get a

534
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 4: bit of that, as you do in five. Then the finale,

535
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 4: like finale, you finally get you know, Silver Team, the

536
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 4: four Spartans going up against this massive wave of Covenant

537
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 4: you know, almost feels like like the firefight situation on

538
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 4: like ODST like Horde mode, Hord mode exactly, yeah, like

539
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 4: and it's honestly like, the fight's really good, and they

540
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 4: finally bring in a little bit of the Halo theme,

541
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 4: which I think is just like one of the coolest themes.

542
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 4: I absolutely love it so much. And it's it's really

543
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 4: really fun And yeah, Jason, your point, you feel like, oh,

544
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 4: this is where they spent all the budget was like

545
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 4: on these like three really big epic fight sequences. You know,

546
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 4: in episode five, we see I think it's John, we

547
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 4: see one of the Spartans like jump on top of

548
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 4: a bansheet. Right, It's like, okay, like this is point

549
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 4: except from the game that's really un exciting.

550
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 5: You know for those that have read those books, you.

551
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 4: Know, the Eric Nyland novels, which you've talked about, there's

552
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 4: a lot of really great lore in there, and they

553
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 4: just kind of jettisoned all of that. Like I really

554
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 4: wanted to see the Spartans as a kind of family, yea.

555
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 5: Like one of the tragedies of reading those books is whenever.

556
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 4: They lose one of their soldiers, like you know, they're

557
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 4: kind of programmed to be emotionally uneffective.

558
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 5: You can tell it hurts them when they lose one

559
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 5: of their own.

560
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 4: And they didn't really go there either, Like that could

561
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 4: have been a really great heart of the story, and

562
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 4: I feel like they kind of skirted around that for

563
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 4: just a lot of really generic and room conversations.

564
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: Something else that is kind of not haloy is. Master

565
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: Chief got his dick wet.

566
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 3: Master Chief the cherry, the cherry got popped.

567
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: He got out of his armor and got into something

568
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: a lot more comfortable.

569
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 3: And the reason that fans.

570
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: Are upset, like hardcore, you know, the fans who have

571
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: read the books and are up on the lore is

572
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: is part of the Spartan The Spartan training program is

573
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: fucking brutal. Like when you read the Nyland books, you're like,

574
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: holy shit, this is terrible they did. It's terrible what

575
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: they did to these kids to train them to be

576
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: these uh super soldiers. And part of that is they

577
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: injected them with various steroids and drugs. And part of

578
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: that medical regimen was, uh that their sex drive was

579
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: you know, medicinally depressed. It was like basically like lowered

580
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: to nothing because they didn't want Spartans having any kind

581
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: of like emotional and or physical connection to anyone. They

582
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: just wanted them to be like killing machines and uh.

583
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: And then guess what master Chief had sex the show?

584
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: How was it? Did you did you were you? Were

585
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: you upset by it as a Halo fan? And how

586
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: is you know what did we see what happened there.

587
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 4: I mean, I it felt a little bit out of character,

588
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 4: but I wasn't upset about it. I'm like, Okay, I

589
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 4: get what they're doing.

590
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 6: You know.

591
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 4: They's like, Okay, I get what they're trying to do here.

592
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 4: They're trying to give him a romance with this other

593
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,479
Speaker 4: character McKee. You know, I'm never going to complain about

594
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 4: Pablo Schreiver being naked, which is a few times in

595
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 4: this year congratulation, looking great, looking absolutely.

596
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 3: Happy to see a bum Yeah.

597
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 4: As was I like, there's something you're too except as budshots,

598
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 4: they're fantastic. So from that respect, I've like, okay, I'm

599
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 4: on board with this. It definitely didn't make me upset.

600
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 4: It just felt a little bit, i don't know, kind

601
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 4: of unnecessary. It definite felt a little bit out of character.

602
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 4: And it's like, it's not going to make me angry

603
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 4: that they change things. Like this part of an adaptation,

604
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 4: you gotta change things. But I didn't think it necessarily

605
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 4: added a lot to the story.

606
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,479
Speaker 2: It sounds like it's actually a bit of a missed

607
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 2: opportunity because that's such a tragic and kind of brutal

608
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,479
Speaker 2: bit of law that they could have done a scene

609
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 2: where it's like an intimacy scene that isn't to do

610
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 2: with fucking, and that could have been like a really

611
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 2: interesting and motive way to explore like that side of

612
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: the past, and that.

613
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: Kind of actually a great Yeah, it's actually a really

614
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: great and tragic plot device where it's like you know,

615
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: he he can't like, yeah, he can't do that. You

616
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: find other ways of being intimate like that.

617
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 2: I think that's a shape that kind of like it's

618
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 2: I really like the first couple of episodes, I felt

619
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: like it was like really ambitious, weird sci fi storytelling.

620
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 2: But I just think it's a shame because I think

621
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: like if you can't keep that going for those little

622
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 2: moments when you could do something that's really like emotionally

623
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,959
Speaker 2: powerful like that, then it you.

624
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 3: Know, does it hit basically like you said, did it

625
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 3: left you?

626
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: You watched it and you were like, eh, nice.

627
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 5: To see it, but like yeah, it just felt generic,

628
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 5: you know.

629
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Speaker 4: And I think that was the big disappointment this the

630
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 4: series is that for me, Halo's never felt generic. It's

631
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 4: always been kind of special, and like the Master Chief,

632
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 4: despite being kind of like kind of a.

633
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 5: Blank canvas, has always felt special. Too, and this was

634
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 5: just like.

635
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 2: Eh, is there anything that you would want to see

636
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: them do in like a second season that would redeem

637
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: it or like interesting exploring.

638
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 4: I'm not like totally writing it off, you know, like

639
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 4: every series takes a little bit of time to get

640
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 4: its footing, and if they are going to push it

641
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 4: more towards like those sort of battle sequences like we

642
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 4: saw here, maybe fewer episodes, bigger scope and scale, more

643
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 4: fight with the Covenant, which requires more budget than I

644
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 4: actually think there is some potential here. It's like there

645
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 4: was just enough here for me to want to keep

646
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 4: going and be a little bit disappointed. But I would say, like,

647
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 4: you know, I can't say it's any better than any

648
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 4: other Halo thing. They can't be like, hey, like dedicated

649
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 4: nine hours this thing instead of reading one of the

650
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 4: books or playing one of the games. But I think

651
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 4: in a second season, with a bit more money, we

652
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 4: can see more of like that big scale comming because

653
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Speaker 4: the Covenant are barely in it, unfortunately, And I was

654
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Speaker 4: hoping that the villains were too expense too expensive, and

655
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Speaker 4: it was good, like honestly, yeah, the Covenant looked good

656
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Speaker 4: when they bring him in there, you know, and they

657
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 4: bring in little nods the game, like you know, we

658
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 4: see them like initially stealthily take out a bunch of

659
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 4: grunts by hitting them the head, Like Okay, we've all

660
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 4: done this, we're going so I think maybe a little

661
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Speaker 4: bit more of that and I could be on board.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm actually looking forward to catching up on this.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's one of the things I do in the

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Speaker 1: throes of COVID nineteen, the novel coronavirus. Up next the airlock,

665
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Speaker 1: where we'll tell you about what we do when we're sick.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the airlock. Stay on the other side of it, folks,

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Speaker 1: because because your hosts today Rosie and I have been

668
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Speaker 1: stricken with the novel coronavirus COVID nineteen, and so you're

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Speaker 1: gonna want to stay on the other side of that

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Speaker 1: airlock so that you don't catch it. And today in

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Speaker 1: the airlock, we're going to talk about the things that

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Speaker 1: we as a team super producers Chris and Saul, Hey,

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00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: Rosie and I do when we're sick. What do we watch,

674
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Speaker 1: what do we do, what do we read? What are

675
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Speaker 1: the things that comfort us and get us through this?

676
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: This really horrific fucking feeling that we're feeling right now, Rosie,

677
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: let's start with you. What are you been doing in

678
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: the time? By the way, let me let's just start

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Speaker 1: with this. I texted on Monday like, hey, I have COVID, Like,

680
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Speaker 1: let's cancel the pre pro meeting. YadA, YadA, YadA. And

681
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm glad that you tell It's funny you

682
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,959
Speaker 1: should text right now because I too have COVID, And yes,

683
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: let's definitely push the meeting. So when did you When

684
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: did you start feeling it? And what have you been

685
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: doing since then?

686
00:38:53,080 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 2: Like Thursday ish and then Friday was really the the day.

687
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 2: But it's just it's only gone worse, baby, It's only

688
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: gotten worse.

689
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 3: So I'm I have been. I luckily I had actually just.

690
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: Incidentally kind of like taken some time off to like

691
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm gonna do some writing, I'm gonna

692
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: like do some stuff.

693
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 3: I had my mom visit and and then.

694
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Speaker 2: Lo and behold, it just ended up working out because

695
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 2: it meant I could just not I could just lay

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Speaker 2: around and and and rest. And one of the things

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00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,959
Speaker 2: that I did that was very comforting that we haven't

698
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 2: talked about yet. Somehow that is easily up there with

699
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 2: like my favorite shows.

700
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Speaker 3: Of the year was I finished Our Flagman's Death.

701
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Speaker 5: It's a great show.

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00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been.

703
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 2: Saving like the last two episodes because.

704
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 3: I didn't want it to be finished.

705
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Speaker 1: Don't spoil the finale because there is some really great

706
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Speaker 1: The finale has some great stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just gonna I'm not even gonna really spoil anything.

708
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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna tell you why it's good and you

709
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 3: should watch it.

710
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Speaker 2: So it's it's the much lauded Taiko w t t

711
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 2: produce starring Pirate show and it is just like, along

712
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: with Abbott Elementary, another one of my favorite shows of

713
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Speaker 2: the year.

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Speaker 3: It is like the.

715
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Speaker 2: Funniest, like kindest, sweetest, weirdest show, and the cast is

716
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 2: incredible and the writing is funny, and it's just like

717
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Speaker 2: one of those half hour comedies where you're just like, damn,

718
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Speaker 2: I wish I had made this because it is like

719
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: so so surprising, but it's also very cozy. It has

720
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Speaker 2: like I was sending around everyone who was like saying

721
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Speaker 2: that they enjoyed it. I was like, there's this old

722
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Speaker 2: English tradition of like weird musical kids shows, and one

723
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Speaker 2: of them was called Maid Marian and her merry Men,

724
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Speaker 2: and it was done by the guys who made Black

725
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Speaker 2: at Her And when I was a kid, like I

726
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Speaker 2: always think about that, And the opening of the first

727
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: show is this guy singing like a reggae song about

728
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Speaker 2: like mud and how how terrible it is to be

729
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Speaker 2: a peasant in like Britain. And this show has that

730
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Speaker 2: same like weird Britainish musical kids show energy, like it

731
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Speaker 2: has some it is for adults, like, it's got some violence,

732
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: but but generally you're just like, this is like a

733
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Speaker 2: really funny kids show but made for people my age.

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Speaker 4: It's surprisingly wholesome. Oh it's whole for being pirates. Yeah, like, oh,

735
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Speaker 4: this is actually like really nice.

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Speaker 1: Saul, what are you? What do you? What do you watch?

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Speaker 1: What is your go to when you're sick?

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Speaker 6: It's a good question. I think my go to when

739
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 6: I'm sick is probably like, I want something really comforting

740
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Speaker 6: and comfortable, nothing like complicated. I want to minimize complexity,

741
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Speaker 6: and I want, I mean, like the familiar. It is

742
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 6: hard to beat, Like, I want something relatively familiar, so

743
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Speaker 6: I'll often rewatch. I gotta say, when I was a kid,

744
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Speaker 6: and this is actually still true, my mom would take

745
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Speaker 6: me to work with her when I was really sick,

746
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 6: and I would just sit in her office and watch

747
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 6: on her Like other computer watch movies, The Ocean's Trilogy

748
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Speaker 6: would be something I.

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Speaker 3: Watch Ultimate comfort Watch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like that's a great one.

751
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Speaker 6: Watching Brad Pitt and especially Brad Pitt. I love Brad Pitt,

752
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 6: But watching brad Pitt and Clooney just like sort of

753
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 6: like stylishly solve problems and like do it with no

754
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 6: issues at all. It's just like very pleasing. I'm like this,

755
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 6: it's complicated, but it's so not complicated. They make it

756
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 6: too easy. That's what I want life to be.

757
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Speaker 2: Like this stakes the high but love watch it and

758
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 2: you're like they're stealing a lot, but this is not stressful.

759
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 3: This is relaxing. I'm glad to be involved in this.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like, this is good. One hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 1: I want that.

762
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 3: This is great. If only, if only.

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Speaker 5: This could be so easy?

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Speaker 1: Chris, what is your go to sick content?

765
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Speaker 4: I think if I'm sick, probably the first movie I

766
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 4: put on is probably the movie I've seen the most

767
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Speaker 4: of my entire life, which is The Great Mouse Detective, Like.

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Speaker 3: The Respect to Basil. That's the one I.

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Speaker 4: Mean, yeah, you know, and and Vincent Price's Radigan is

770
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 4: like one of the all time great camp villains. And

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Speaker 4: I've watched the movie probably three or four times a year.

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Speaker 4: I ever just like feeling like a little bit like

773
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Speaker 4: hungover or sick whatever.

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Speaker 5: Ikay thrown that on.

775
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 4: And when I actually I had COVID back in October

776
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 4: twenty twenty, you know, pre vaccine, when it was like

777
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 4: you can't go anywhere, do anything, you don't know how

778
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,479
Speaker 4: long you're gonna be six. I basically quarantined for three

779
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 4: weeks more or less, and I caught up in a

780
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 4: lot of Batman comics. I reread the Cataclysm in No

781
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 4: Man's Lam arc, but I went and tracked down like

782
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Speaker 4: all the side issues that were included in like the

783
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Speaker 4: trade collective versions that I had in the nineties, you know,

784
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 4: thank you for was it DC Infinity or whatever?

785
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 5: That was fantastic, And then I started, yeah, but it is, yeah, no,

786
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Speaker 5: it was really excellent.

787
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Speaker 4: I caught up on a lot of comics, and then

788
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Speaker 4: the other thing I did was I got back into

789
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Speaker 4: building custom lego sets I hadn't done in probably like

790
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Speaker 4: a decade or so, and I just had a bunch

791
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 4: of pieces line around, and so for the first time

792
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 4: in a long time, I built like a little custom

793
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 4: batmobile and a little tumbler, and I was like, Oh,

794
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 4: I'm actually really really proud of how these came out.

795
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 4: This is pretty great. Yeah, I just like sat my

796
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Speaker 4: apartment for three weeks and buil Legos and red comics

797
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 4: and it was sound.

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Speaker 5: Honestly it was. It was part of me. Part of

799
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 5: me kind of misses it now at this point that

800
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 5: that era.

801
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: Of like weird Disney movies from like what they were

802
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: seeing as like a flop era, they definitely come to me.

803
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 2: Like one of my ultimate ones is The Black Cauldron.

804
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 2: I watched that culture and and it's so scary and

805
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 2: weird and like just off key, but it's so comforting.

806
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: And that definitely like that Basso Mass Detective. Like Disney

807
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 2: Plus in that way has kind of been a blessing

808
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 2: and a curse because they have they have all those

809
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: a lot of those vaulted movies, but they also used

810
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 2: to just be free to rent from the library services

811
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 2: because like nobody wanted them, but it's easier to find

812
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Speaker 2: them on Disney Plus.

813
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, that's that's a great call.

814
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 5: They were dark too, like a black.

815
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 2: Coldin is like legitimately terrifying.

816
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, like it freaked me out, Like it's still to

817
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 4: this day, Like there's a part of my brain that

818
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 4: like shivers little bit whenever Fidget busts to the window,

819
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 4: Like I should still be scared by this all these

820
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Speaker 4: years later.

821
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're like they're dark and cool. I really like

822
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Speaker 5: that era. Actually the one for me like that was

823
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Speaker 5: Page Master.

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00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

825
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah so scary.

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Speaker 6: The mister Hyde was so scary to me, Like just

827
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 6: like the I don't know all of the streaky, but

828
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 6: like you just kind of like want more of it.

829
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 6: It feels like a version of a fever a little bit,

830
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Speaker 6: like let me just try to like get get the

831
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Speaker 6: bad stuff out.

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Speaker 5: Dude.

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Speaker 2: Joe Johnston, he's a pretty legit Comfort Watchers director actually,

834
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Speaker 2: because he directed Rocketeer and now brilliant Rocketeer.

835
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Speaker 1: Shouts to Rocketeer right shouts a. Shouts to Jennifer Connelly,

836
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: my always my first wife is fantastic in The Rocketeer,

837
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: A movie that should have been like a hit but

838
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: wasn't a hit.

839
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Speaker 5: Fun movie, really fun, super fun.

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00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: There's no way Captain America exists the First Avenger directed

841
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 2: by him.

842
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 3: If that movie didn't exist, Hey, right, yeah.

843
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: He's completely I've been rewatching it, like I've rewatched The

844
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Speaker 1: Succession season two episode turn Haven, today, episodes of television,

845
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: and I've been reading a lot. But I think that

846
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: I've been like catching up on a lot of TV.

847
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: And one of the shows that I'm really enjoying right

848
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: now is killing it on Peacock.

849
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the Craig Robinson Show.

850
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 1: It stars Craig Robinson, created by Luke del Tredici and

851
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: Dan Gore, and it is Craig Robinson is a like

852
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: down on his luck dude who enters a like a

853
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: Boa constrictor catching contest in the Everglades. Now, because like

854
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: the setup here is that I'm sure we've all read

855
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: these stories where like people who couldn't handle their snakes

856
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 1: in the in the you know, Everglade region, they would

857
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: just like let them go into like the swamps and shit,

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00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: and now they're like a threat to the environment and

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00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: so they have to be caught. And so there's like

860
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: this twenty thousand dollars contest for whoever catches the most

861
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: snakes in the swamps. And of course, like that is

862
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: the exact amount of money that Craig Robinson's character needs

863
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: to get out of the jam he's in. And it's like,

864
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: first of all, the cast is great. Craig Robinson as

865
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Speaker 1: Craig He's Craig Robinson has reached the Tony Danza. All

866
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: my characters are named my name level of like TV

867
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Speaker 1: acticts the Pizza Hut money. Yeah, Claudio Darity as Gillian,

868
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Speaker 1: who I just chat from our Wagman's death and love

869
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Speaker 1: and from other things. She's just like fantastic and so funny.

870
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: Lily Sullivan from The Righteous Gemstones and season one of

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Speaker 1: I think you should leave. Uh. Tim Heidecker as like

872
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: as like Tom Cruise's character from Magnolia. Like, it's so

873
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: the casting is really great, And first of all, I

874
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: was not aware on Peacock that you could curse and shit,

875
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: So there's like a lot it's like adult, but it

876
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: also deals with like it's a show about people on

877
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: the lowest rungs of the socioeconomic gladder who've been left

878
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: behind by capitalism and who are just like trying to

879
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: get by. And part of the way, part of the

880
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: journey of the show is, you know, along with all

881
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: the snake catching and all of like hilarity and wild

882
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: stuff that happens. Is like they all kind of like

883
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 1: bond together into this community as a way to get by.

884
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: It's just a really really funny show. It's really fun.

885
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying it. It's not like anything else that's out

886
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: there in the same way that Abbot and in Our

887
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: Flag Means death feel really singular and unique killing. It

888
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: feels like that really fun showing.

889
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 5: I love that.

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00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 4: That's what streaming has given us now, is you can

891
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 4: go super niche like that and just produce like a

892
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 4: short ten episode series. It's like for a very ci

893
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 4: audience that discover and love it and it can just

894
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 4: exist and be awesome and not have to be twenty

895
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 4: two episodes and appeal to everybody all the time.

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00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I really like that, Like these Found family

897
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 2: stories are becoming like such a trope now, and I

898
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: think it's because like people our age grew up with,

899
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 2: like some of the ultimate Found families, you know, like

900
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 2: the X Men and stuff like that, And I I

901
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 2: just it makes me really happy to see shows that

902
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: are being made at a prestige TV level where that

903
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 2: discovery of community for whatever reason whether it's socio economic

904
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 2: or sexuality or just living like on the outside of society.

905
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 2: That's become such a cool part of TV now, and

906
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 2: that's definitely like one of my comfort tropes.

907
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 3: So it's really nice to.

908
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,479
Speaker 6: See Guardians the Galaxy. I watch that movie all the time.

909
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 6: Another Ultimate Found Family movie.

910
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: That's a great one. I will go on Disney Plus

911
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 1: and just watch scenes from Marvel movies way too much,

912
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: Like even when I'm not sick, I do that all

913
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: the time. I really do that all the time. And

914
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: it's it's sad, and I don't like to talk about it,

915
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: but I do. I do that constantly.

916
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: I do Captain America picking up Thor's hammer.

917
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 3: That's like but once a week probably, And.

918
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: Like listen, one of the greatest scenes in the entire

919
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: MCU is the before as Ultron is like knitting his

920
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: consciousness together, and they're all and the rest of the

921
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: Avengers are just like partying on at Stark Tower. The

922
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 1: iOS just like hanging out, and that is like so fun.

923
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 1: That is such a fun scene. Everybody drinking like Thor's

924
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: thousand year old dorog, you know, seeing who could pick

925
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: up Thort's hammer, roasting Roadie for being like a Kmart superhero.

926
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Speaker 3: Like that. Some So that's the good stuff.

927
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Speaker 4: And I love Black Widow's response like, oh, that's not

928
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 4: a question I any answered.

929
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 5: It's like, oh, yeah, that's that's perfect for her character.

930
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 3: It's like, no, I don't want to know.

931
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Speaker 1: Well, listen, hopefully this will be over soon, Rosie.

932
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Speaker 3: I believe in us.

933
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: You've you've been dealing with since Thursday. I've been dealing

934
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 1: it with since Saturday. Although, as I told my primary

935
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: care doctor, because I'm lucky enough to have health insurance

936
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: and I think that's the thing that everybody in this

937
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: country should just have. Yes, definitely, there was like a

938
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Speaker 1: two to three maybe four day period where it was like,

939
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: oh man, my allergies are bad. So you know, like

940
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 1: it's hard to yeah, it's hard to say, it's hard

941
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: to know, but I'm going to say Saturday, and so

942
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: hopefully this is over soon. I know that there. I

943
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: know that there's probably some people yelling at their speakers

944
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: right now. Get that anti viral pa Sloffett or whatever

945
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: it's called. I tried, let me tell you, folks, I tried.

946
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: I did. I was like, hey, what about that anti viral.

947
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: I've been hearing about and they didn't want to give

948
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: it to me because I guess my symptoms aren't bad enough,

949
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 1: and I respect it. There's probably people who really really

950
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: require it. They are giving that out for anybody in

951
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 1: New York. I believe that's free. If you get that prescribed,

952
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: you can get that for free. I guess they just

953
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: have a lot of it over there.

954
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 3: That's amazing in New York's sitience.

955
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: But hopefully this will be over soon and we'll be

956
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 1: back with you by our next episode, fully whole and

957
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: well and certainly finished with our journey to full recovery.

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00:52:54,360 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: Up next the outro, It's a big thank you to

959
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: Rosie Night. Chris Lord and Saw Roumin are super producers

960
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 1: for joining us and helping us carry through the episode

961
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Speaker 1: on X ray vision as Rosie and I are dealing

962
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Speaker 1: with reduced lung capacity. Rosie, what do you have to plug?

963
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 2: Well, depending on how I'm feeling this weekend, I may

964
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 2: or may not be there, but do remember that there

965
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 2: is an amazing Transformers Day event at Pop Fiction in

966
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 2: Long Beach, which is my local comic shop.

967
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a ton of cool artists there.

968
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 2: You can get some brad Transformers comics on sale. Even

969
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 2: if I'm not there, I'll make sure some of my

970
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 2: zines and stuff are there that you can pick up,

971
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 2: and it will just be a really good time. I

972
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Speaker 2: dream that I will be well, but it feels like

973
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Speaker 2: I will never be well, so I'm not promising anything.

974
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Speaker 3: Oh, we're gonna get there.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do it. We can do it, and we

976
00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 1: can do it, folks, don't forget to check out our

977
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: videos on Cultured YouTube channel and the show notes for

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00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: the listener's Guide to X ray Vision, where we provide

979
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: more details about the stuff we talk about on each episode,

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00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: including this one. Our next episode will be on May

981
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Speaker 1: twenty seventh, by which time we hope to be fully

982
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: whole and well and our body's free of the novel

983
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Speaker 1: coronavirus COVID nineteen. Don't forget rate and review us with

984
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: the five stars wherever you get your podcasts. We want

985
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: those five stars. We need them. We gotta have them.

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Speaker 1: Our lives will not be complete unless you drop the

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Speaker 1: five star ratings on the podcast platform of your choice.

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Speaker 1: X ray Vision is a Crooked Media production. The show

989
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Speaker 1: is produced by Chris Lord and Saalrubin. The show is

990
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: executive produced by myself and Sandy garhard Our, Editing and

991
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: sound designers by Vacillius Patopoulos. Dellan Villanueva and Macna Group

992
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: provide video production support and alex Rella for handle social media.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Brian Vasquez for a theme music. See you

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Speaker 1: next time.