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Speaker 1: Warning, Today's episode contains minus spoilers for Netflix's hit movie

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Speaker 1: and likely Oscar pick for Best Animation, K Pop Demon Hunters.

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Speaker 2: We're going up up up a moment.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Hello, I am Rosie Knight and I do love

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Speaker 1: K Pop Demon Hunters.

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Speaker 3: I'm Joel Monikin I would date all of the Saga.

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Speaker 1: Boys a correct, they are all so beautiful And welcome

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Speaker 1: back to x ray Vision, the podcast where we dive

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Speaker 1: deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics and pop culture.

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Speaker 1: We are here at iHeart Podcasts as always, where we

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Speaker 1: will be bringing you three episodes a week.

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Speaker 4: And news on Saturdays.

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Speaker 5: In today's episode, first deep cuts an interview with Jenna

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Speaker 5: Andrew and Stephen Kirk, the songwriting team behind two of

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Speaker 5: the hit songs, including my favorite hit song from Netflix's

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Speaker 5: K Pop Demon Hunters. Aaron's gonna be sitting down with them.

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Speaker 5: It's a good discussion. You also stay tuned for that,

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Speaker 5: and then actor Rosie and I will be back for

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Speaker 5: a quick discussion on the staying power of K Pop

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Speaker 5: Demon Hunters, why the sing along works, and why if

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Speaker 5: you haven't given it a chance yet, totally sure.

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Speaker 1: And now let's dive into Aaron's interview with Jenna Andrews

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Speaker 1: and Stephen Cook.

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Speaker 6: All Right, we are here with two of the writers

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Speaker 6: from K pop Demon Hunters, who worked on a couple

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Speaker 6: of my favorite songs from it. We have Jenna Andrews

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Speaker 6: and Stephen Kirk. Thank you guys for joining.

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Speaker 7: Hello, Hello, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 6: So, I know, normally you're in Nashville, you have a

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Speaker 6: big farm with chickens and goats and all sorts of animals.

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Speaker 6: But right now you're calling us from where Soul.

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Speaker 7: We're in Korea right now.

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Speaker 6: And this is a this is a writing trip. You're

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Speaker 6: working on other pieces of music and stuff.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's been crazy. It's so fun.

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Speaker 9: We love it here.

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Speaker 4: It's just yeah, I mean we basically come here and

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Speaker 4: we every time we're like, we have to get a

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Speaker 9: Basically we're Korean. Now. Awesome, awesome, great.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm sure like the kimchi scene in Nashville is

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Speaker 6: not quite as good as it is and so so yeah, no, no,

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Speaker 6: all right, So, between the two of you, you've written

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Speaker 6: and produced songs for everyone from BTS, Lil Nas X,

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Speaker 6: Sabrina Carpenter, Tory Kelly, like some incredible performers. You've done

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Speaker 6: a bunch of really great songs, some of my favorite

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Speaker 6: things on there as well, But we're here mostly to

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Speaker 6: talk about k pop Demon Hunters, which you wrote two

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Speaker 6: of the songs that are on there. Tell me and

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Speaker 6: did the two you realize like how big this project was, Like,

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Speaker 6: did you was there a moment when you heard someone

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Speaker 6: singing the song? What was it for you?

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Speaker 9: I mean, I don't want to speak for you, but

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Speaker 9: we found out maybe like two days after it came out,

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Speaker 9: and it was just going crazy, Like we didn't know

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Speaker 7: I don't think we had.

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Speaker 9: I don't think anybody involved with the movie, whether it's

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Speaker 7: What a blessing has been pretty crazy.

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Speaker 4: I mean I think we probably thought it was going

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Speaker 4: we've actually worked with two of the Soga boys the

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Speaker 8: I think we all just are like blown away with

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I feel like I'll get into this when we

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Speaker 6: when I was like, Wow, this is this is this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but we'll get to that.

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Speaker 6: How did you too get involved with the movie in general?

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Speaker 6: Like were you given backstory and direction or did they

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Speaker 9: So we got approached by spring Aspers, who headed up

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Speaker 9: And then so with movies it's always like kind of

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Speaker 7: When we were approached, we just were like, we have

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Speaker 9: The materials they gave us were very very very like

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Speaker 6: And did they give you any sort of notes like

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Speaker 9: They kind of gave us free rate in the beginning

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Speaker 8: A lot I mean, yeah happens.

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Speaker 7: I mean it happens a lot. But I mean, but

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Speaker 9: Artists, it could go both ways. Really, so a lot

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Speaker 9: We write a lot of songs though, and a lot

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Speaker 9: almost two years to complete. There was one hundred and

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Speaker 9: It was just, I mean, it was I mean, it's

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Speaker 9: such a blessing. I can't call it a nightmare. But

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Speaker 7: It was crazy.

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Speaker 6: And did you have I mean, like you had like

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Speaker 6: you're saying you had to redo lyrics as as characters

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Speaker 6: changed throughout. I think you did such an incredible job lyrically,

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Speaker 6: have a pop song quote your quote unquote, a pop

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Speaker 9: But were there were there.

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Speaker 9: But I think I think, I think the biggest struggle

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Speaker 9: it's like tying that massive story into small stories in

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Speaker 7: To figure out how they want to say things in

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Speaker 9: And it was just it was an interesting learning experience

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Speaker 6: once too, so you know what I'm saying. They talking

445
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Speaker 6: about some of these other artists you've written with. What's

446
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Speaker 6: the difference for you when you're writing with a developing

447
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 6: artist who still finding their sound versus when you're writing

448
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 6: with someone who really knows who they are. They have

449
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 6: a couple of hit songs they want to continue or

450
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Speaker 6: expand that. But the difference between someone who's established is

451
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Speaker 6: someone you're helping to grow.

452
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's always I think it's it's

453
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 4: it can be the same and different, you know, because

454
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Speaker 4: I think when you're established, a lot of times you

455
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 4: want to grow, so you also don't want to stay stagnant, right,

456
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 4: So I think that a lot of times that is

457
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 4: a challenge in.

458
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Speaker 8: Its own self.

459
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 4: But then like when you're developing, you're trying to find

460
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 4: a sound, so it's like kind of it's like I think,

461
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 4: just because you found a sound doesn't mean like it

462
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 4: doesn't mean that you've like arrived, right, because you have

463
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 4: to keep doing this. So sometimes, honestly, that can be

464
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 4: harder because you don't because especially when an artist is

465
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 4: experience the music industry, I think they get in their

466
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 4: head a lot. Developing artists is really exciting to work

467
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Speaker 4: with because it's so like they're like probably the most

468
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 4: inspiring place in my opinion, Like I feel like they're

469
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,199
Speaker 4: just like so like, oh, I can't wait, you know,

470
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,199
Speaker 4: and it's like when it's like I hate to say it,

471
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 4: but sometimes you can get a little bit jaded or bitter,

472
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Speaker 4: not not I don't know if it's I'm using exactly

473
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 4: like the right word, and I don't know if everyone

474
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Speaker 4: feels this way, but my experience, I think you just

475
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 4: kind of like, I don't know, I just I think

476
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 4: that people are a little bit more afraid when they've

477
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 4: already had something as even if it's successful, because they're like, oh,

478
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 4: I have to repeat or you know, are people going

479
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 4: to judge me for this?

480
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 8: Whereas it developing artists, it's like so open, you know.

481
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 7: And also we're kind of known, like we're notorious for

482
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 7: ignoring the brief, so they'll.

483
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,439
Speaker 9: Be like, this is what we want, this, this, and this,

484
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,439
Speaker 9: and they're like, no, we're gonna try this like we

485
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 9: and it works a lot of the time because I

486
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 9: think I think the thing about a true artist is

487
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 9: they're inspired by things that they don't even realize they're

488
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 9: being inspired by. So and as artists, I think everybody

489
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 9: who makes music is a version of artists. And we

490
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 9: see you know, like if I said, like like if I.

491
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 7: Told you to paint, like to make the color red

492
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 7: and I.

493
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Speaker 9: Got to make the color red, we probably have different

494
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 9: shades and they're both red either in its art right,

495
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 9: So nobody's ever wrong in art. It's just like it's subjective,

496
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 9: like some people will like it, some people won't. But

497
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Speaker 9: I think, yeah, we're kind of known for like we're

498
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 9: kind of like notorious for just here comes to A

499
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,360
Speaker 9: and R and they're like, this is what we want,

500
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,719
Speaker 9: This is what we want, this is what we're looking for,

501
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 9: and we're like, I think we'll do this and you know, yeah, yeah,

502
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 9: and that's the thing because we, like.

503
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 8: I come from artists.

504
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, and also like the success of a song is

505
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 9: irrelevant if you don't get in the car after the

506
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 9: session and want to turn it up to a thousand

507
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 9: and listen all the way home. And for us, that's

508
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't care how many more hits we've had,

509
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 9: or how many hits we have had, or how much

510
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 9: money we make or any of the things. I still

511
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 9: I still make music for that feeling, you know what

512
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 9: I'm saying.

513
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Speaker 7: And we both make music for that feeling.

514
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Speaker 9: And so like, yeah, with developing artists you can kind

515
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 9: of just be like, let's just try a hundred things,

516
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 9: and then with bigger artists just kind of like, let's

517
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:45,719
Speaker 9: just take a shot, and if they hate it, they

518
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 9: hate it.

519
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 7: If they don't, well we won.

520
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 6: So yeah, I had another national artist one time tell

521
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Speaker 6: me the three greatest songs ever written are Yesterday, Amazing Grace,

522
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 6: and the song I just finished. And those are the

523
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 6: three best things I ever heard, you.

524
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 9: Know what I'm saying.

525
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 7: That's the thing. Yeah, it's so true.

526
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 6: So, speaking of some other art are there things non

527
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 6: musical that you go to for inspiration, books, art, movies, TV,

528
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 6: et cetera.

529
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 8: Oh, I think all of the above for me.

530
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Speaker 4: I mean I think I think I don't know if

531
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 4: you like, well, for me personally, I don't know if

532
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 4: I go to them, but I feel like you definitely

533
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 4: just naturally take from them, if that makes sense. It's like,

534
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 4: you know, like if for me, if I'm watching a

535
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 4: show or a movie and I hear a line or

536
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 4: something like that, I'm definitely writing it.

537
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 8: I'm like, oh, that's interesting, you know, like or even

538
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 8: just a feeling.

539
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 4: And I think a lot of times just like there's

540
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 4: something to be said about just living life. Like you know,

541
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 4: it's just being out on the street seeing something, talking

542
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 4: to a stranger, and all of a sudden you're like,

543
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 4: oh my gosh, because there's so much.

544
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Speaker 8: We were saying this the other day, like so much.

545
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Speaker 4: Of what people love about songs is conversation, and just

546
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 4: like I just don't think like in the beginning of

547
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 4: becoming a songwriter, you think, oh, there's so much, like

548
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 4: you have to be so poetic, and so I don't know,

549
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 4: I think we overthink things, but I think like what

550
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 4: people want to hear is something that they like a

551
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 4: conversation that's just relatable and feels good. You know, it

552
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 4: just like kind of moves your soul, but like in

553
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 4: a very simple way. And I think those things are

554
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 4: really inspiring from things like the movies or conversation, simple

555
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 4: things like that.

556
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm definitely one of those weird people that like

557
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 9: hold people up the grocery store because I'm trying to

558
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 9: find out what Judith is on in her life at

559
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 9: the moment, you know what I'm saying. So for me,

560
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 9: it's really a conversation and just complete stranger. Yeah, I like, yeah,

561
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 9: I think it's it's just like the human Like the

562
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 9: human experience is just such an inspiring thing because I mean,

563
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 9: you could have people on top of the world that

564
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 9: will be at the world be on top of them tomorrow.

565
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 9: And you have people that literally have nothing and they're

566
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 9: on the you know they and but tomorrow they're up.

567
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 9: And then you have people in both places, people who

568
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 9: are very successful who are unhappy, and you have people

569
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 9: who are very unsuccessful but are so happy.

570
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Speaker 7: And so it's just.

571
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Speaker 9: Like that experience of just like you are, you can

572
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 9: only be in this present moment and you can only

573
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 9: really take from this present moment and moments are so fleeting,

574
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 9: so like just experiencing people and just talking to people.

575
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Speaker 7: And also I love hanging out with my horses and goats, chickens, dogs.

576
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's basically a part I mean, I'm like.

577
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 9: A farmer halfway.

578
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 7: Yeah.

579
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 9: LOOKI I'm kind of a farmer, like like this is

580
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 9: my whole. I love being home and taking care of

581
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 9: the animals is hard being away from them.

582
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 8: But you are basically apart. So you're basically one hundred

583
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Speaker 8: percent a part time farmer.

584
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Speaker 4: I will say, I I'm upset.

585
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 8: I'm like, I love animals.

586
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 4: In fact, he actually you got me the gohs and

587
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 4: the horses for my birthday.

588
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 8: But he basically is like the lead farmer.

589
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 9: It's like to give that. I had to keep giving

590
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 9: because I'm out there like cleaning up after him doing

591
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 9: a thing.

592
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 7: But it's, uh, it's so worth it.

593
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 9: Animals to take care of too.

594
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 7: Yeah no, no, I mean yeah, they're reckless. It's crazy,

595
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 7: all right.

596
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 6: So what is some other projects you have coming out

597
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 6: or that just came out that anyone who's listening who's

598
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 6: a fan of the songs you worked on for K

599
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 6: Pop Demon Hunters? What else can they check out from you.

600
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 8: Recently, Big X the Plug with Thomas Rhett.

601
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, Big X Plug Thomas Rhett. Nate Smith has

602
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 9: a song coming out as country artist. There's a lot

603
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 9: I don't even know. Some of them we can't probably

604
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 9: even talk about. I will say so we started a

605
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 9: label and we have amazing artists. We got one girl

606
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 9: that was on American Idol. Her name is Maddy Prewett.

607
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 9: She's phenomenal, sixteen year old. She's amazing. And then we

608
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 9: have this girl, Kendall cut who's from North Carolina. She's

609
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 9: like insanely talented. Then we have a girl, Morgan Johnston,

610
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 9: she's a country singer. Well, I've signed so many girls

611
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 9: and we needed a boy on the roster. But those

612
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 9: things are like like at this point in our career

613
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 9: and what we're doing, like we're doing all the things right,

614
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 9: writing for big artists and writing for medium artists and

615
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 9: movies and all the things, but our heart really, well

616
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 9: my heart and I know i'm speaking, I don't meaning

617
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 9: to speak for you, but our heart is really in

618
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 9: these artists that we're developing, because it's like their family

619
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 9: and you're you're you're solving puzzles together. It's such a

620
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 9: beautiful experience to be like let's let's just let's get

621
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 9: in and and And the thing about it now is

622
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 9: is that, like we it's half about making music with

623
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 9: these artists, these young artists, but it's also half about

624
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 9: letting like helping them avoid the trauma and.

625
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 7: The things that we had to go through to get here,

626
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 7: you know what I mean.

627
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,719
Speaker 9: And so that's like, you know, like a paying it

628
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 9: for a type situation, except for it pays us forward.

629
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 7: It's like such a such a beautiful thing. It's like

630
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 7: it's amazing. So that's that's really what we're excited about.

631
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, And I think it's cool that you asked that question.

632
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 4: That's why I was like, you know, the developing artists

633
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 4: versus like an artist that's been doing it, because I

634
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 4: think both of us when we met, like obviously, you know,

635
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 4: there's so many things that drew us to each other.

636
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 8: Obviously, and creatively we work so well together.

637
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 4: But I mean, I think one of the big things

638
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 4: is that we both came from being artists and really

639
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 4: have a deep passion for developing artists. So I think

640
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 4: it's so true what you're saying, because I think that's really.

641
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 8: Where our heart is.

642
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 4: It means it's it's so exciting to work with developing artist,

643
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 4: especially once that you actually like that feel so close

644
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 4: to your heart because it's just like, I don't know,

645
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 4: it's just this feeling that is like irreplaceable.

646
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 9: Like we can work with a thousand artists and do

647
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 9: a thousand different things, but every day both of us

648
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 9: get at least one text from all of our artists,

649
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 9: and it's just such a beauty, Like we're across the

650
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 9: world right now, and it's just like it's it's rare

651
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 9: to have artists checking on you, like are you good?

652
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 9: Most of the artists like hey can I get this?

653
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 7: Can I this? It's a.

654
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, like yeah, they think

655
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 9: they think that we're doing for them, because we we

656
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 9: do really work hard for them and try.

657
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 7: Our best, but they do a lot for us.

658
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 9: So it's just like such a I love I love

659
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 9: developing the artists that we have such a blessing.

660
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 4: And I will say, like lastly, it's so fun because

661
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 4: like any little success right because it's like like you

662
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Speaker 4: could get like let's say, you know, one song streams

663
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Speaker 4: a little bit ahead of the last song that feels

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Speaker 4: like a giant.

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Speaker 9: It's like back when I start. It's like it's like

666
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Speaker 9: one of those things like we're back in the with

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Speaker 9: all this experience. We're back in the like the beginning stages,

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Speaker 9: and it's just so fired.

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Speaker 10: It's like so exciting, like one little opening show, right,

670
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Speaker 10: like you get like one thing being like, oh, this

671
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Speaker 10: artist gets to like perform, like do this venue opening

672
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 10: for such and such Like to us, that's such.

673
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Speaker 8: A win, you know, and that's such a cool feeling

674
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Speaker 8: to have.

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Speaker 6: Well, thank you so much. I have three real quick,

676
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 6: rapid fire questions for you before we go. First, I

677
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 6: go to karaoke song.

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00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 8: Oh oh my gosh. Okay, go to karaoke song.

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00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,959
Speaker 6: You're both incredible singers, so that that does change it.

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Speaker 7: Thank you.

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00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 4: It's got to be like I mean, I don't know

682
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 4: if I have a go to, but it's got to

683
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 4: be anything Mariah Carey.

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00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 7: Okay, we couldn't be more opposite.

685
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 9: Number one I got to. Number one is gonna be

686
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 9: you give Love a Bad Name bon joke.

687
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 7: And then my.

688
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 9: Second one and then my second one's got to be

689
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 9: Superstition by Stevie Wonder.

690
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, yeah, I was not not expecting Bonjo at all.

691
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 9: So far you're kind of drunk. Even everybody in the

692
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 9: bar just going crazy.

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00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,959
Speaker 7: Yeah, the bar will love that one.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 6: Favorite movie musical non t pop Demon Hunters, bi okay.

696
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 4: Favorite movie musical meaning like even like animated, sure.

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00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 8: It could it be like okay, so like, oh god,

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00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 8: I mean Little.

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00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 4: Mermaid Yeah, yeh count Yeah, it's gonna be Little Mermaid.

700
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 8: Or Beauty and the Beast.

701
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 9: I like the I mean those ones are Aladdin. It's Aladdin.

702
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 9: It's definitely Aladdin.

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00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 6: I Ryan King, Yeah, Lion King, Aladdin, King's Fire.

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00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, there's too many good ones. I guess it's it's

705
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 9: impossible to like, but those are just so classic.

706
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just I mean.

707
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 6: I just rewatched West Side Story and I was like, man,

708
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 6: that's probably higher on my list.

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00:31:58,560 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 9: I thought, all right, it's going.

710
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 6: You're non musical must have when you're in the studio

711
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 6: or you're writing. What do you need to have there

712
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 6: with you?

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00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 8: Oh god, I mean heard? Okay, mine is heard a

714
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 8: non musical must have.

715
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, okay, here's the secret.

716
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 7: I'll go first.

717
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 9: So you could think, because I know you're struggling thing

718
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 9: I at all times in the studio. I don't care

719
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 9: if it's five thousand degrees.

720
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Speaker 7: I have to have a hoodie in the studio. Like

721
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 7: I have to be in a hoodie.

722
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 9: I'm superstitious, Like I used to play sports, so like

723
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 9: a lot of things. Like I just like like I

724
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 9: have the same routine all the things, Like I have

725
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 9: about nine thousand hoodies. And when I'm out, like I'll

726
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 9: leave the studio to go get food and they'll be like, bro,

727
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 9: it's it's two hundred and seventeen degrees outside. I'm like, sorry, Bro,

728
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 9: I'm in the studio. Like I always have to have

729
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 9: a hoodie in the studio, Like I'm.

730
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 3: Always I love that.

731
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 7: I love that.

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00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So for me, I'm a very like it's

733
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 4: like the I need to like have something, so like yeah,

734
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 4: like a coffee, a tea, a glass of wine, like something.

735
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: I don't know.

736
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Speaker 4: It depends on the time, of course, but in the

737
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 4: day it's like you need like a coffee, your tea

738
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 4: or like at night it's like, yeah, just a low

739
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 4: glass of wine or something just to like kind of

740
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 4: have that like like the oral fixation or whatever.

741
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 8: It's just like it helps your brain kind of move.

742
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 4: Oh.

743
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Speaker 6: One hundred percent all right. And last one, when's kop

744
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 6: DMI Hunter's two coming out.

745
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 9: I'm kidding, hell, I promise you I will call you

746
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 9: on a side and tell you as soon as I

747
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 9: find out.

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Speaker 7: Awesome.

749
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Speaker 6: Thank you guys so much.

750
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 7: This was great.

751
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 6: Uh, congratulations again. The movie is incredible. The songs are incredible.

752
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 6: I had an argument with some coworkers because I was

753
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 6: saying I liked this is what it sounds like more

754
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 6: than free, and they're like, You're You're so wrong. Free

755
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 6: is so much better. So you guys have just done

756
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 6: such a great job.

757
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 7: Thank you so much.

758
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 9: Thank you, bro, Thank you so much for having us man,

759
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 9: thank you for what you do for just music community

760
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 9: and everything.

761
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 7: Is such an honor and a blessing to be on

762
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 7: here with you, so thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Thank you real quick, and let me come back.

764
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Speaker 5: Rosie and I are going to discuss the staying power

765
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 5: Capeop Demon here.

766
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Speaker 3: And we're back Rose eight weeks ago.

767
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 5: Weeks ago, we got a coveted invite to Netflix the

768
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Speaker 5: Compound in Hollywood to watch the singalong version of Cape

769
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Speaker 5: Hop Demon Hunters. The sing along version is now on

770
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 5: Netflix for anyone to watch as long as it's in

771
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 5: your language. Sorry to my friend Azuko in Japan, who

772
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 5: was like, yeah, they didn't do a Japanese translation, girl,

773
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 5: so we ain't got no sing alongs over here in

774
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 5: every language. Please we need it. But that experience for

775
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 5: me was so I was like, oh, this is going

776
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 5: to be the movie and the segment. I think Cars

777
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 5: was the movie for a generation of kids in the

778
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 5: same way I think like for us, it's probably.

779
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 3: The Lion King. Maybe was the movie.

780
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 5: Shrek the generation after us, where there's a song that

781
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 5: sticks out that everyone has to know, where the music

782
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 5: is so on point and delicious, where the animation is

783
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 5: gorgeous and groundbreaking and totally different, that just cements within

784
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 5: a generation. I easily think K pop Demon Hunters could

785
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 5: be that film. There was a kid sitting behind us

786
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 5: who knew every line to the movie. I'm not saying songs,

787
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 5: I mean the line they're speaking in the cadence. When

788
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 5: Derby came out, he was screaming at the top.

789
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 3: He's like, oh my god. I was like, they love it,

790
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 3: and I too love it. Talk a little bit about

791
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 3: your experience at the sing along, because you actually brought

792
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 3: a little person with you.

793
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,479
Speaker 1: I was lucky enough to bring one of my many

794
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: nieces and nephews with me, and yes, she loved it.

795
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: It definitely took her a little bit to warm up.

796
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: But I was also sitting next to Ardencho's family. They

797
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 1: were on the other.

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00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 3: Side of me, and too.

799
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: Of the kids, the two boys, they knew every word,

800
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: every dance move. It was so fun to get to

801
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: see them experience the movie that way. And I think,

802
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: like I already knew, because I have many children in

803
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: my life, that this movie was popular, because every child

804
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: liked it, Like every different kid who likes different stuff,

805
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: this was like a unifying thing.

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00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 2: That they would ask me about.

807
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: And now that we're a little bit further out, it

808
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: is very clear that the kids were onto something, because

809
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: we have now gotten the news that by the end

810
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: of August twenty twenty five, Kpop Theman Hunter had had

811
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty six million views on Netflix, which

812
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 1: made it the most popular title ever full stop movies, TV, anything,

813
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: And that was a month ago, so you know that

814
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: it's higher out. We're also in a situation where, again

815
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: months out, Hunterricks's golden iconic song, in my opinion, not

816
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: even the best song, but still a great song. It

817
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: Opster one hundred, Hot one hundred for the sixth week,

818
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: which means that it has broken its tie within canto

819
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: and it is now the most weeks at number one

820
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 1: for a soundtrack single since twenty fifteen. And it's probably

821
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: just going to keep breaking those records because I have

822
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: started to hear it in the car on the radio

823
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: now and that.

824
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: Not just gold Stars the other day.

825
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a huge moment too, because it is

826
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: rare that Disney is going to reach out and get

827
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: a song from a different space of a streamer that

828
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: is a competitor. But they needed it because they know

829
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: that this is like aj Audenna Reami.

830
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 9: These are now the.

831
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: Most popular girl band in the world. They had the

832
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: first number one hit single since Destiny's Child for a

833
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: girl band, it had been about fifteen years. Again, they

834
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: are also the sole longest leading hit by an animated

835
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: group in the Hot one hundred and sixty seven year

836
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: history and first ever soundtrack to generate four simultaneous top

837
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: top tens. And it's really yeah because right now Golden

838
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: is number one, Soda Pop by the Soger Boys is

839
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: number five, Your Idol is number six, and how it's

840
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: Done is number eight. So you're talking about the most.

841
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 5: Respecting my favorite song and it bothers the shit out

842
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 5: of me.

843
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 3: But okay, which one's your favorite?

844
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 4: Mine? Uh?

845
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 5: This is what it sounds like is the best song

846
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 5: on the album. I would fight a great street about this.

847
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 5: I would throw a lot in someone's eye over this,

848
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 5: like it is. It is a hill worth dying on.

849
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 5: That song makes me cry every time. It just it

850
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 5: uplifts me. I feel like it ties me to my friends,

851
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 5: like it is a perfect ending song. You know, I

852
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 5: think the finale for a musical can be really hit

853
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 5: or miss. It's a challenging song to write. It's probably

854
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 5: the only other sound song as challenging in a musical

855
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 5: is Wherever your love.

856
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 3: Duet is trying to make that sound original.

857
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 2: Which they did great with Free.

858
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 5: They also nailed it you Go and y'all could put

859
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 5: Free back up on these charts too.

860
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. I dig Free. But this is

861
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 3: what it sounds like.

862
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 5: Is it's a chilling and it's also it's a stadium anthem,

863
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 5: like can you imagine actually hearing this is what it

864
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 5: sounds like in a stadium with a full But my

865
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 5: fucking got it would rock.

866
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: It was emotional just hearing it in that theater where

867
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:34,479
Speaker 1: there was maybe like one hundred people and everyone because

868
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: everyone's comfortable enough, everyone feels engaged and yet to me,

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00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: I just think that this is such an interesting movie

870
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: that proves the original musicals are great. It doesn't have

871
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: to be a jukebox musical. It doesn't have to be

872
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: tied to an ip that people already know. If you

873
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: actually pay great musicians to write great music, you can

874
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: make a great musical.

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00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 2: I think it's very exactly.

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00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 1: I also think it's very interesting because we know that Wicked,

877
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: another movie that both of us love, Wicked for Good,

878
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: will be coming out in a round a month. And

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00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: the interesting thing there is, though, there will be two

880
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: new songs, one for Alpha Bart and the Wizard and

881
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: one for Glinda about her turn to being good. And

882
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: for a while those were kind of seen as the

883
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Speaker 1: shoe him for best song of the year. But I

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Speaker 1: just I don't see anyway unless you've got like a

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Speaker 1: defying gravity level new edition, I don't see a way

886
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Speaker 1: that Golden doesn't win. And I think that this is

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Speaker 1: also going to be very interesting. I'm hoping this is

888
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: such an unusual situation for streaming. For Netflix, they put

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Speaker 1: the movie into theaters. And for directors. Maggie Kang is

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Speaker 1: female director, and if this movie had been in the

891
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Speaker 1: cinema as a real, you know release, she would probably

892
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Speaker 1: be up there with one of the most successful female

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Speaker 1: directors of all time financially.

894
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Speaker 3: And I want to make.

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Speaker 1: Sure that we are all in the industry and in

896
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Speaker 1: the FYC space, and in the streaming space and in

897
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Speaker 1: the cinematic space.

898
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Speaker 2: Let's not let the women who.

899
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Speaker 1: Made this movie a massive success disappear after this movie.

900
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: They have so many more stories to tell. And I

901
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: think that this is gonna be capeop. Demon Hunters is

902
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Speaker 1: going to be the story for the Oscars this year.

903
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be really interesting to see it up against,

904
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Speaker 1: you know, alongside I should say, one battle after another,

905
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Speaker 1: maybe Sinners, which I'm thinking is probably gonna do a

906
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Speaker 1: huge sweep. And if we have a huge Sinners sweep

907
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Speaker 1: alongside an animation sweep, that would be a big year

908
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Speaker 1: for horror for animation. I think it's going to continue

909
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Speaker 1: to be a conversation. I'm so glad Aaron got to

910
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Speaker 1: have this great chat, and we will definitely be covering

911
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: Capeop Demon Hunters again, because I think you're right, Joelle,

912
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Speaker 1: this is like a generational addition to the animated canon,

913
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Speaker 1: and the music is so good. We haven't had songs

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Speaker 1: like this, sins. It's that era of Disney Beauty and

915
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: the Beast Lion King Ariel where you really got those

916
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: huge banger songs. This is that, but taken to the

917
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Speaker 1: extreme pop level, you know, turn it up to eleven

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Speaker 1: spinal Tatyana.

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Speaker 5: And this in the modern ken of like animated musicals. Really,

920
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 5: because as much as I like Incanto, I don't know

921
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Speaker 5: if the songs, I guess we don't talk about Brutal

922
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Speaker 5: did the rounds for quite a while, but it's like

923
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Speaker 5: and it got on. Every song was really hitting in

924
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Speaker 5: the same way that multiple songs are hitting for this

925
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Speaker 5: as well.

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Speaker 3: Also the song about the sister. Oh, that's true, strong

927
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Speaker 3: sister Louisa.

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Speaker 2: I will say my niece and nephew they loved in Canto.

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Speaker 1: They loved those songs, but Golden has gotten more play,

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Speaker 1: I think because and Capop Demon Hunter is in general,

931
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Speaker 1: because in Canto was fun and for my niece, very formative.

932
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Speaker 1: She loves Luisa, she wants to be strong that is

933
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Speaker 1: like her icon, but Capop Demon Hunters offers up something

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Speaker 1: that I have found that kids are really really into,

935
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: which is a character who is seemingly monstrous but has

936
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Speaker 1: a redemptive arc that is like such a huge thing

937
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: that kids appeal to. Kids, whether they're watching something like

938
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 1: Five Nights at Freddy's or whether they're watching k Pop

939
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: Demon Hunters, they this is their version of the Sith

940
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 1: or wanting to be a you know, a death eater,

941
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: but without a lot of the horrible connotations that came

942
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: from those outdated ideas. Instead, here you get Genu, and

943
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: you get to see that exploration of somebody who ended

944
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: up sacrificing himself for someone else, even after getting to

945
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: be demonic and getting to make choices. And I think

946
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: that redemptive ark is so popular among kids, and every

947
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: kid I ask Ginu's their favorite character?

948
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Speaker 3: Ugh, you could count? First of all, Wow, how could

949
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Speaker 3: you not know?

950
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 4: Genie?

951
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 3: He's so cool? Who are we throceing over?

952
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 9: In which one man in the.

953
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Speaker 5: Other Netflix animated TV show based off the video game

954
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Speaker 5: with the Super High Okay, yes, oh, I feel like

955
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Speaker 5: we have a repeat of our our sexy Piltover crew

956
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Speaker 5: m hmm.

957
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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this.

958
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Speaker 5: Do you think it's it's a no brainer that this

959
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 5: will be nominated for Best Animated Film at the Oscars.

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Speaker 3: Do you think this has the juice to be nominated

961
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 3: for Best Picture?

962
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: I think it as the juice and I think if

963
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Speaker 1: Netflix is smart, they will push for that because the

964
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Speaker 1: truth is, it's going to be an eclectic, weird year

965
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: and no movie has been in the conversation as much

966
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: as this movie, aside from Sinners. This is Sinners and

967
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 1: This are the two movies where people who don't usually

968
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: reach out to me about going to the theater have gone,

969
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: I need to go see this, Like is this tell

970
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Speaker 1: me about this?

971
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 2: Where can I go see it?

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Speaker 1: In seventy mil we took people to see Sinners and

973
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Speaker 1: seventy email at the b start it was like Monumental

974
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Speaker 1: and I feel like k Pop demon Hunt is making

975
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: that move from Netflix to the theater and then being

976
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Speaker 1: number one has to put it in contention because also

977
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Speaker 1: it's a gorgeous animated feature, so it should be in contention.

978
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Speaker 2: It deserves it at every level.

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Speaker 1: Is the Academy open to it? Let's see, especially because

980
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: this is very popular with young girls and we know,

981
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Speaker 1: they don't often take that stuff as seriously.

982
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Speaker 4: They do not. They do not.

983
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 3: It's animated.

984
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 5: It's about K pop, which for some reason some people

985
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 5: feel still feel confused about, you know. I mean we

986
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Speaker 5: had talked when we did our K Pop breakdown that,

987
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 5: you know, when Sony sold this to Netflix, they were like,

988
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Speaker 5: We're just not even sure anyone's gonna watch it.

989
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't think anyone will like their pennies. It's whatever.

990
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 3: This film has a lot of staying power.

991
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 5: I think because it moves really quickly, because the characters

992
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 5: are interesting, because the music is fabulous, because you want

993
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 5: to dress like all the characters. Like, it's really a

994
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Speaker 5: full package film, Like I'm looking forward to Halloween and everyone.

995
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 5: I've already seen the girls getting their long purple braids together.

996
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 3: The hot leagues have come out.

997
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 5: People are trying to figure out how to make their

998
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 5: hair into space buns. Like it's really it's like what

999
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 5: at times, to just be alive and to experiences. I

1000
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Speaker 5: love when a movie in the same way that we

1001
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Speaker 5: saw with like Barbie, Like when a movie just.

1002
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Speaker 1: Hits as a whole, it's.

1003
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Speaker 5: All become fans, you know, it says walking down the

1004
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 5: Stree my friend the other day, and this guy was

1005
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 5: just hanging out. I think he was like changing his

1006
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 5: kids diaper in the back of his car, and just

1007
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 5: gold and it's just pouring out of his speakers. And

1008
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 5: then we walked like two more blocks and someone else

1009
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 5: was listening to Soda Pop and I was like, yeah,

1010
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 5: this is these are the songs of the summer.

1011
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 3: You know these are It's.

1012
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 5: An enduring film, So yeah, I might actually just go

1013
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 5: watch K Pop even Hunters right now.

1014
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 3: I mean, why not.

1015
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just thinking that too. I'm like, maybe

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00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 2: that's what we'll do this afternoon.

1017
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 3: Okay, I love this perfect. I think that's the show.

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00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 3: Did we do it?

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00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1020
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 4: Oh, we did it.

1021
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Speaker 6: We did it.

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Speaker 2: On the next episode of X ray Vision, We've got

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Speaker 2: another edition of x ray Vision group chat with a

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Speaker 2: check in on one of my favorite shows, gen V

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Speaker 2: and a ton more fun. That's the episode. Thanks for listening, guys,

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Speaker 2: Bye bye.

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Speaker 6: X ray Vision is hosted by Jason steps Young and

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Speaker 6: Rosie Night and it's a production of Iheartpot.

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Speaker 1: Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman.

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Speaker 6: Our supervising producer is Abu zafar Our.

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Speaker 1: Producers are Common, Laurent Dean Jonathan and Faye Wag.

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Speaker 6: A theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme

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Speaker 6: songs by Aaron Kauffman.

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Speaker 1: Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman and

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Speaker 1: Heidi our discord moderator,