1 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on eight 3 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland, presented by bally bet Sportsbook, an official 4 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns. Please bet responsibly. 5 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura. 6 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: Let's sill live on a tuesdaytion of Cleveland Browns Daily 7 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 2: were presented by bally Bete official sports betting partner of 8 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: your Cleveland Browns. Merely Bo. The Great Z cut down 9 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: day in the NFL. I drove over here a little 10 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: bit of rain. Thermometer in the car fifty eight Yeah, 11 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: not great. Wow, Wow the windows open last night. Loved it. 12 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: Crisp and cool, clear air. 13 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 3: It's a little early though, not now. It's a little early, 14 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 3: not now. It doesn't look great for the weekend. Like 15 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 3: I mean, look, it's not gonna rain. But like the. 16 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: Weather seventies though, isn't it not great? Let's check the 17 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 2: ACI weather. It's by the way, they should I should 18 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: get this app for free for all the times that 19 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 2: I no doubt. I'm excited. You would have had a 20 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: weather dot com. 21 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 4: No, no, no, he doesn't want no I want the upgrade. 22 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 4: He wants an accurate Oh my. 23 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 2: Gosh, Hi, it's chilly. I'm this week seventy five. I 24 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: mean Sunday is going to be perfect. Yeah, this week 25 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: is crazy though. Sixty eight, seventy one, sixty eight, sixty eight, 26 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: sixty nine, those are highs. Yeah. Wow in August, man, man, 27 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: man man, I'm happy for those folks going down to 28 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: the game in Columbus on Saturday that they're going to 29 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 2: get a nice, nice weather day. They I mean, the 30 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: noon thing is ridiculous, but the notion that the fear 31 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: was that it was going to be ninety four and 32 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: sun and you just bake and that would suck the 33 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: energy out of the place. Sound like the high is 34 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 2: going to be in the mid seventies, so it should be. 35 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 3: Perfect for that good. Yeah, my wife is none too pleased. 36 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 3: We have like this whole weekend. Yeah, had the whole 37 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: family getting together, rented a house vacation home a little 38 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 3: bit away for the weekend. I'm like, I'm gonna need 39 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 3: a block from about eleven thirty to three thirty, and then, 40 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 3: depending on how it goes, I might need a few 41 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 3: more hours. 42 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: No one's ever opened with a game like this, number 43 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: one versus number two. It's just never happened. You've never 44 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: seen anything like it. So now it's incredibly and by 45 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 2: the way, like you know, if you're into the draft 46 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: and all of that stuff, like the amount of talent 47 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: that is going to go talent equates games. This weekend 48 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: in college football is stunning. Not just Ohio State, Texas, 49 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: Alabama and Florida State follow that in the afternoon, and 50 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: then Clemson and LSU happened Saturday night, both of those 51 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: quarterbacks going to go in the first round. 52 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 3: Dabo's hype man's walking around here, I know, peacocking around. 53 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: He thinks that they're a title contender. 54 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: Hey, this is they should be. This, this is it's all. 55 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: If not now when for Clemson, you get into Sunday, 56 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: Carson becks at Miami Now against Notre Dame. That's the 57 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 2: night game. Leonora sellers the South Carolina quarterback. They host 58 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: Virginia Tech in the afternoon game, and then Bill Belichick 59 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: debuts Monday night. So that's a night. College football gets 60 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 2: this part right in the lead up to the NFL 61 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 2: and they crushed it this weekend. It's the best opening 62 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 2: weekend I can ever recall. 63 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: My only concern is I feel like then weeks two 64 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 3: and three just it's a slump. 65 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna go from like six games that you 66 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: can't miss two weeks two and three. Week two, Oklahoma 67 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: does host Michigan, So Bryce Underwood will be making his 68 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: first He's starting this week the true freshman, number one 69 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: player in the country quarterback. He's starting as a true 70 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: freshman against New Mexico on Saturday night in an arbor. 71 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: But then they will travel to Oklahoma week two. So 72 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 2: that's a matchup of the highest rated quarterback and then 73 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: the highest rated transfer quarterback, the number one transfer last 74 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: years at Oklahoma kid named Johnny Matteer who was at 75 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: Washington State before that. So that'll be a massive one 76 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: in week two. But it's not Yeah, you're going to 77 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: take a step back. But honestly, then there's the NFL 78 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 2: there with its big main course with all of Thursday 79 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: night Friday, you're all locked in the same night. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 80 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: So I'm okay with college football having a down Week 81 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: two because it's having a massive Week one and then 82 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: the NFL in Week two and you're good to go. 83 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: So more than all of that, all of that is 84 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: very very good. It is cut down day. Well, some 85 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: things have happened since there's a lot going on since 86 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: you and I did a show yesterday, Buddy, this wasn't 87 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: even a three h five. 88 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 3: Dude, I'm going through. I'm like, okay, so let's start 89 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: with at three oh one, at two fifty five yesterday. 90 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 3: Let's see what I missed that I need to throw 91 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 3: in this. 92 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: So much, so much. Obviously, the headline is the trade 93 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: from last night. The Browns traded quarterback can You Pickett 94 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 2: to the Raiders for a twenty twenty six fifth rounder. 95 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: Last week on this show, it was coming out of 96 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 2: the Philly game, and you and I had a very 97 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: frank conversation about the way Gabriel played and the thing 98 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 2: that we discussed, I want to say it was Monday 99 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: or Tuesday of last week. It was coming out of 100 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: the Philly game, and we said, did Dylan Gabriel do 101 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 2: enough that you could look to move Kenny? Did he 102 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 2: do enough to prove that he's the backup to Joe 103 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: Flacco and you feel very comfortable with it? And the 104 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 2: thing that you and I said at the time was yeah, 105 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: I think so. And then he did nothing on Saturday, 106 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 2: but to prove that even more that he was more 107 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: than capable of running the full compliment of the Browns offense. 108 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 2: So that allows for what happened last night. 109 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 4: Absolutely, And it's funny that people hear what they want 110 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 4: to hear. But when Joe Flacco was named the starter, 111 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 4: immediately you said, it's ironic that it was a two 112 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 4: person competition to be the day one starter, But losing 113 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 4: that competition might mean you're not here, and I think 114 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 4: that's kind of certainly had Picket not goten hurt and 115 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 4: he had been the starter, I think that then Joe 116 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 4: Flacco probably would not have been here. But you're wondering 117 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 4: with Picket there, and the question was more not that 118 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 4: would Gylan Dylan Gabriel be the backup by kind of 119 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 4: more long term, It's just that if something happened to 120 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 4: Flacco in week two, yeah, do you want the rookie 121 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 4: to go in there against that schedule? And really the 122 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 4: only reason I thought at that point to keep Kenny 123 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 4: Pickett around was once Flacco was the starter, was in 124 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 4: the event of an injury early in the season, but 125 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 4: that's a roster spot, so he was on. I've got 126 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 4: my little spreadsheet with the colors on here that he 127 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 4: was always once Joe Flacco's even started, he went to 128 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 4: yellow for me from green. Now the Browns obviously had 129 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 4: said all along that they wanted what's that? 130 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 2: I can't see it. I need binoculars. Go look, go investigate. 131 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 3: It's happening. The internet is officially broken. Travis Kelcey and 132 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 3: Taylor Swift are engaged. 133 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: How about it? And the debutante breaking the news is 134 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 2: breaking news. 135 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 4: By the way, I got Kelsey got Kelsey in the 136 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 4: seventh round in a draft. Let this last night with us, who, 137 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 4: by the way, insisted that we could not leave our 138 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 4: draft without Luther Burden the third and in fact we 139 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 4: took him in the eighth round probably would have been 140 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 4: able in the sixteenth. He's like, trust me, did is 141 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 4: he a buck guye recruit who didn't go? 142 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, you do realize it? 143 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: Nonetheless, Tras worked down on one knee. 144 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: So they're married, engaged. 145 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 3: Oh okay, all right, good for the Cleveland just to 146 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: Cleveland message. Your English teacher and your gym teacher are 147 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: getting married. 148 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: That's great. Good for those My family chat and they're 149 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: gonna go nuts. They're gonna love it. They're lucked up into. 150 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 4: I can't believe I got to break that news to 151 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 4: my kids. 152 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: That's gonna be for me. Big props for you, and 153 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: thanks to the debutante than what's amazing and there is 154 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: nothing that's more this show than what just happened. We 155 00:07:58,280 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: are going we're just in the middle of going through 156 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: a timeline of the actual real truth of what has 157 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: happened at the quarterback competition, and the debutante is on 158 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 2: the other side of the windows holding up holding up 159 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 2: a phone, very like we got to I'm thinking, did 160 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: we cut somebody that we didn't? My social out, I'm like, 161 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: did did we trade? Is Matthew Stafford of Brown Like 162 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: what what happened? Adam is tweeting it next chefter chefter bomb? 163 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 2: I love you, but news to you. Everybody who needs 164 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: to know already does. That's right. 165 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 3: They have all the followers worry about what's going on 166 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 3: with cutdown day. It's like a lot going on over here. 167 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: When you see like. 168 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 2: A local NFL person like retweet Chefty. Yeah, everybody is 169 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 2: following him. We all see it. You don't need to 170 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: retweet him. We're good. As you were saying, where were we. 171 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 3: We're talking about quarterbacks. Let's not derail what we were 172 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 3: talking about, right, So I. 173 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: Think it's been we just got to get the train back. 174 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: That's right, we're back. We're refocused on engineer. 175 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 4: Once Pickett gets hurt, Flacco becomes the starter. We just 176 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 4: it didn't make sense to have four quarterbacks. We tried 177 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 4: to go through this roster and decisions it would have 178 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 4: to be made about that. Now, the Browns have done 179 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 4: a very good job of remember gassing up Travis Hunter 180 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 4: before we traded him, and that was at that point. 181 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 4: Remember that deal's done for two weeks. Yeah, well after 182 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 4: that and now with Kenny Pickett, and people can refuse 183 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 4: to believe it or not, but Kenny Pickett, had he 184 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 4: not gotten hurt, was very likely going to be the 185 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 4: starting quarterback clean runs. He did get hurt on day 186 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 4: four of training camp. Once that happened, Joe Flacco was 187 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 4: clearly the answer to start. And at that point, you know, 188 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 4: we talked about I mentioned that there are lots of 189 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 4: times we see guys go from being the starter and 190 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 4: then they're like third stringer off the team because you 191 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 4: got guys that you want to develop. Kenny Pickett's not 192 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 4: under contract next year. So like if you had started 193 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 4: him and he was really good, you would be hoping 194 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 4: to get a third round compensor. 195 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 2: I mean, we've literally. 196 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 4: Laid all this out for you exactly as it actually 197 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 4: is or was, and so I'm not surprised at all 198 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 4: that they traded him. I always said, they said they're 199 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 4: not trading him, but I think I said this on 200 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 4: yesterday on a mo Pedman station. Everybody's got a price. Yeah, 201 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 4: like you calling, you make something that makes us want 202 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 4: to do it good. So basically we traded a fifth 203 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 4: round pick to get Kenny Pickett and then traded a 204 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 4: Kenny Pickett for that exact same fifth round pick back. 205 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so did it happen? Was he here? 206 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 4: No, he's a very nice young man. I wish him well. 207 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 4: But now you're at three quarterbacks, and so now you 208 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 4: know some of the things changed out. We've seen reports 209 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 4: on various things that were I think pretty apparent, you know. 210 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 4: In terms of bigger names, Deontay Johnson has been reportedly released. 211 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 4: He's sent out a tweet set that you know, thank you. 212 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: For the opportunity. 213 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 4: Pierre Strong has been released, and it's not because Pierre 214 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 4: Strong's not an NFL back he is. It's just that 215 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 4: Jerome Ford and Dylan Samson fit that role rendancy, it's 216 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 4: a redundancy. 217 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: They need a bigger back now. 218 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 4: Hopefully get Quinn Shawn Judkins in here, get him signed today. 219 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 4: That's certainly something that you would very much like to see. 220 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 4: We know now that could we go ten deep on 221 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 4: the line. Kind of feels like it's possible. With Katie 222 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 4: Leviston being acquired today from the Rams, he's a tackle. 223 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 4: Browns give a twenty twenty eight to seventh round pick there. 224 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 4: It was reported last night DeAndre Carter was released by 225 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 4: Jordan Schultz. Not true, Mary Kasas, the Browns are not 226 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 4: releasing DeAndre Carter. Now, she did say that we were 227 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 4: not trading Kenny Pickett. But again, folks, sometimes you have 228 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 4: to understand the way things work and like open your 229 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 4: eyes nuanced the nuance of it that the Browns had. 230 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 4: And it is true, would the Browns had they not 231 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 4: gotten an offer that they felt was good for Kenny 232 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 4: Pickett gone in the season with all four quarterbacks, Yes, 233 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 4: of course, yes, but then they did just like it 234 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 4: is also true that Kenny Pickett, had he not gotten 235 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 4: hurt probably is your starter right now, or there's at 236 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 4: least better a fifty percent chance at a minimum, And go. 237 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: Back to the first four practices of training camp and 238 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 2: go look at the team sessions. Go look went first, 239 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: and I know that the reps, folks, old people screaming 240 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 2: at the clouds are like, I all know it. No 241 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 2: you didn't because it wasn't true, and certainly not. It's 242 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: never been true. No, it's never been true. 243 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 4: Nor was it a general manager directive wherever that came from, 244 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 4: which is far on my capacity to understand. 245 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 2: No, Only here's the this is the thing with that, 246 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 2: because of the injuries to Deshaun Watson, in conjunction with 247 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: the salary of Deshaun Watson, we were always in a 248 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: position where you were going to have to be very 249 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 2: creative at this position, so you were going to take 250 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 2: shots in the draft. We did. Took two shots in 251 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: the draft, one in the third and a lottery a 252 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 2: lot of potentially a lottery ticket in the fifth. Maybe 253 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: Dylan's a lottery ticket to two shots at it third, fifth, 254 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 2: bring in two quarterbacks. Let's take a shot at it. 255 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: Unrookie deals. By the way, and you've braided this point. 256 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: A bunch of times. In regard to Dylan, if he's 257 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: a rookie backup here for a decade, that's a success, 258 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 2: huge success, and he needs to be. I think he'sun be. 259 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: Somebody'suna be for a very very long time, and someone 260 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 2: who the ceiling might be quite a bit higher than that. 261 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see, we'll see. But they took two 262 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: swings at it. The acquisition to Kenny Pickett is which 263 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 2: was the very first thing we did. And if that 264 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 2: doesn't tell you what they thought of him, I can't 265 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 2: help you. Like sometimes we have to apply some bit 266 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 2: of reasonable common sense. So he's the first thing they 267 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: did was that you look at Kenny Pickett from their 268 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: perspective and you go former first round pick. Pedigree. One 269 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 2: thing that these guys do as long as they've been 270 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 2: in charge. If there is someone who becomes available that 271 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: has pedigree, they'll kick the tires. Maybe there's more to it, 272 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: Maybe it wasn't developed properly. Who knows, Get him in here, 273 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 2: let's see what it is. Says absolutely he was this 274 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: is an offense that would suit better to his skill set. 275 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: If you go back to the draft, if you listen 276 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: to the conversations that Quinshawn Judkins had the interviews, they had, 277 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 2: the first calls he got, the first contact was made 278 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: by Kenny Pickett. If you go back to the voluntary 279 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 2: to the mini camp, Kenny Pickett was the first guy. 280 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: He was he was the presumptive starter. And as you 281 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: then you bring in Joe and you say, okay, Kenny, 282 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 2: break glass, Joe Rook killing underneath. That's what it was 283 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: going to be. Yes, And we've laid this out for months. Yes, 284 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: and it gets misconstrued a thousand ways. People go, wait 285 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 2: a second, then, why did you trade him? Because the 286 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 2: circumstances changed. Kenny Pickett got hurt with a hamstring when 287 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 2: that happened, a severe hamstring, as we come to find out, right, 288 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: But we didn't realize it at the time. No, we 289 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: did that show on Monday and I went back. We're like, oh, 290 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: he'll be back in a couple of days. I don't 291 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: think I'll hold him out a couple days percashire, he'll 292 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: be back. He couldn't get back, Nope, could not get 293 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: back before that Saturday when the hamstring happened. Kenny took 294 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 2: almost what would you say, eighty or nine of the 295 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: one team reps yes, and Joe got none. The first thing, 296 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: Joe didn't really get a lot of reps early. 297 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 4: In the offseason either, which I talked to him about 298 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 4: and he was like, look, I get the deal. 299 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: I see, I know what's. 300 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 4: Going on, and it's frustrating, but I'm just going to 301 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 4: make the most of it. And things can always change, 302 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 4: and in this case, things did. 303 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: The injury to Kenny changed everything for Yes. So what 304 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 2: that did is it allowed Dylan to run with the 305 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: ones in the backup role, and over the last I 306 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: don't know, five weeks, he has proven to them that 307 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: he's capable of doing it. 308 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, the weekend Philadelphia was so big because that's a 309 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 4: week where Dylan gets to get all that work with 310 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 4: the ones, then he plays in the game. Shadoor ends 311 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 4: up not practicing at all that week, Kenny doesn't do 312 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 4: anything in team, So every single team rep in Philadelphia 313 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 4: was Flacco and Dylan. Yes, that's it, and so yeah, 314 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 4: he got a lot of opportunities there, took advantage of it, 315 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 4: showed it there in those joint practices, and then showed 316 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 4: it in the both games. I still think, as I've 317 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 4: said all along, their plan is Joe Flacco to get 318 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 4: us through the first six to eight and if, by 319 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 4: the way we're winning, he's gonna keep playing quarterback. It's 320 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 4: always been that there's gonna be this tranch, and your 321 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 4: job as the quarterback who's the starter, whether it was 322 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 4: Kenny Picket or Flacco, is so that you don't get 323 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 4: to see Dylan Gabriel. But if that comes, Dylan Gabriel 324 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 4: is next up. And I alwauld we thought all along 325 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 4: Dylan Gabriel was next up, like it was never gonna 326 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 4: be like, oh, it's gonna be Kenny and then Joe 327 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 4: or Joe and then Kenny and then Dylan. It's gonna 328 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 4: be one of those guys, and then it's gonna be 329 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 4: Dylan Yeah. And Dylan's job is to make sure that 330 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 4: then it's never Shadoor Yeah this year. And if not, 331 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 4: then Shador is going to get a trench. And obviously 332 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 4: we've said it kind of all along, we'd like to 333 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 4: see all three of them get a nice tranch here. 334 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 4: But your goal is when you get that opportunity so 335 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 4: that we're winning, we're in it. We're not making any 336 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 4: changes correct, And that's been the quarterback team. So once 337 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 4: you got to that point, and you understand that you're 338 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 4: gonna you're you have the draft of next year coming up. 339 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: Remember here's the timeline. Now March, you trade for Kenny Pickett, 340 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 2: mid April, you bring in Flacco, then you draft the 341 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: two quarterbacks. 342 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 4: Again, you're only expected to draft one quarterback. Yeah, that 343 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 4: was going to be Dylan Gabriel. He was going to 344 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 4: be a Cleveland Brown. So that's why it all changed. 345 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 4: And in that scenario, I still think it's true, whoever 346 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 4: was the starter, you would keep the other one here, 347 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 4: you'd probably go with three. Now you could get to 348 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 4: a point where maybe you just go with two. We've 349 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 4: done that many times in the past with a rookie. 350 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 4: We did with dtr But Gabril was kind of always 351 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 4: going to be the second guy up once he showed 352 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 4: that he was capable of doing that, because it's the 353 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 4: only thing that makes sense. So at that point, getting 354 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 4: an asset for Kenny Pickett makes sense, just like it 355 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 4: had it been the roles reversed, I guarantee we would 356 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 4: have been shopping Joe to somewhere. 357 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it had it gone the other way. But the 358 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 2: other factor in this that can't be missed is that 359 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 2: this is all possible because how Dylan came along. Yes, 360 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 2: you do. Kenny Pickett is still a Cleveland Brown. If 361 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 2: Dylan did not play the way that he played the 362 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 2: last two weeks, yes, but he allowed for you to say, Okay, 363 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,479 Speaker 2: if something God forbid does have to operate this offense, 364 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: he can run the full complement of the offense. Yes, 365 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 2: And without that opportunity, which is there in large part 366 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: because the Picket injury, you would have four quarterbacks on 367 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 2: this roster and they wouldn't have sweated. 368 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 4: So it's just funny that you bring some of these 369 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 4: things up. So I was doing all of our charting, 370 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 4: you know, like charting every rep kind of early on. 371 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 4: I'm going back to OTA's I'm talking training camps, of 372 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 4: mini camps, all of that. Like before it all went down, 373 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 4: the reps were the most for Gabriel Picket, big gap 374 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 4: to Flacco and Shoudore. And then obviously the injury happens 375 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 4: and that changes, but that's Picket and Gabriel would average 376 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 4: thirty reps combined for every twenty reps for Flaco and 377 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 4: Sanders combined. So we're talking about one hundred and fifty 378 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 4: percent there. So this is it again. 379 00:18:58,600 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 2: It all happened the way that it did. 380 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 4: I'm thrilled that Joe Flacko is gonna be a starter 381 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 4: for the Cleveland Browns because I think he is gonna 382 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 4: be fun and he can throw the ball around the yard. 383 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 4: He's four and one as a starter here. He's a 384 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 4: great dude. I think Jerry, Judy and Najoku and Fannon 385 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 4: are all going to be thrilled about it because it 386 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 4: would have been a different style. 387 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 2: Offense with Kenny. 388 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 4: It would have Yeah, this is going to be more fun, 389 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 4: probably more explosions, good and probably some bad. That's just 390 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 4: kind of the way that he plays the game as 391 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 4: a gunslinger, which is gonna be fine. But now getting 392 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 4: something for Picket who was redundant and was going to 393 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 4: eat up a roster spot at that point, that's what 394 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 4: you That's what you had to do. So I was 395 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 4: I was more surprised by you know, you had people 396 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 4: being like, no, they're one hundred percent keeping four. You 397 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 4: always keep here. Listen when you everything that's said is 398 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 4: done for a reason. Yeah, So you know AB's going 399 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 4: up there saying you want some team to believe that 400 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 4: if they you don't make an offer, I like, I'll 401 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 4: keep him and guess what that was the truth and 402 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 4: that's why it was so believable. Had they not gotten 403 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 4: an offer for Kenny Pickett at all, he would. 404 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: Be on the RUSS. They weren't gonna cut him. 405 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 4: No, they were gonna cut him because he still could 406 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 4: be an asset if there's an injury some whe else. 407 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 4: People still know the guy started twenty five games in 408 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 4: the league and as winning record as quarterback in the league. 409 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 4: So the opportunity present itself and it's there, and now 410 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 4: you go into the running back. 411 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 2: Room real quick. As you mentioned the Flacco thing, this 412 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 2: is the other thing that is a little lesson in NFL. 413 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 2: As you're in a transition phase as we are, you 414 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 2: have to be quick to flip your script. And the 415 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 2: Browns had to flip their script. The injury to pick it, 416 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 2: the incident with quin Shawn Judkins, the retirement of Jordan Hicks, 417 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 2: all of these things happened boom boom, boom in ten days. 418 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 2: The makeup of what this team was going to be offensively, 419 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: the identity was going to be, We're going to run 420 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 2: the ball. You correct me where I'm wrong. We're going 421 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 2: to run the ball. We're gonna play action off of it. 422 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 2: We're going to take the air out of the ball. 423 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 2: We're going to try to have long drives to keep 424 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 2: you off the field, and we're going to try to 425 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 2: quite honestly, muck it up a little bit. Yeah it's different. Now, Yep, 426 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 2: Judkins is not currently here. We're looking for a big back. 427 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 2: If if he's not going to be here, then you 428 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 2: got to find one and we'll get into that as 429 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 2: we go along. There are plenty of options, plenty of 430 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: options for that. So and now you have a quarterback 431 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 2: who can take the top off asolutely. So what else 432 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 2: happened in the last month? A kid named Isaiah Bond 433 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 2: became a Cleveland Brown. Well guess what he does? So 434 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: now I love that sound effect that he's a good one. 435 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 2: Now this thing is all different. Yeah, it's all different. 436 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 2: And that's the NFL. Some teams can walk into a 437 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 2: season and go, it's Josh Allen and this is what 438 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 2: we're doing, this is who we are, and away we go. 439 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 2: We had an incredible curveball thrown our way in the 440 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 2: last in the in the ten days and the lead 441 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 2: up to camp, and in the first week of camp, massive. 442 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 4: Massive, Yes, exactly definitely who you thought you were going 443 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 4: to be on. 444 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: The defense Hicks MJ. 445 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 4: And that, to me, the quarterback one worked out. And 446 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 4: that's why having Joe Flacco here was so great because 447 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 4: you knew if you needed him, Joe Flacco could come 448 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 4: in and get the job done. And I'm excited for 449 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 4: the opportunity for Joe Flacco. What you're looking at now 450 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 4: is a lot of question marks at the cornerback position, 451 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 4: I think, and as we're trying to go through, we're 452 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 4: trying to go through kind of this roster right now, 453 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 4: and we can go position or however you want to 454 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 4: navigate through it. But there are big question marks. And 455 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 4: I think that this is a year in which more 456 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 4: so than recent years, because there used to be years 457 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 4: where like we would pick six guys up. I don't 458 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 4: think we're picking up six guys, but I think maybe 459 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 4: more there will be. I would imagine a couple guys 460 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 4: picked up off of the claims, because if the reporting 461 00:22:54,800 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 4: that we're getting is accurate, you are seeing a lot 462 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 4: of undrafted free agents on this initial fifty three. 463 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 2: All right, let's do that right now in terms of 464 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 2: what is being reported. 465 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 4: Let's just go position by position in terms of what's 466 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 4: being reported on what we've got, and you can just 467 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 4: ask me and. 468 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 2: I can Okay, answered, I got it. Okay, you got it. 469 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 2: You're ready. Let's start running back? 470 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 4: All right? 471 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 2: So running back, you've already done quarterback? Yep. 472 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 4: We know Jerome Ford and Dylan Samson will be here. 473 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 4: Pierre Strong is reported to have been released. I have 474 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 4: not seen anything suggesting that at this point, Amani Marshall 475 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 4: has been released. My guess is, you know you would 476 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 4: love to get quinch On Judkins signed certainly in here today. 477 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 4: No idea if that's going to happen or not. But 478 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 4: there will be a power back added to that mix. 479 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 4: And whether I mean that as an addition from in house, 480 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 4: Amani Marshall, whether that means quinch On Judkins signs and 481 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 4: is there, or it means that you sign pick somebody 482 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 4: up from elsewhere. I know a lot of people are 483 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 4: adric estimate who I liked coming out of Notre Dame. 484 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 4: Big guy feels like I could fit. I don't know 485 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 4: why it didn't work out in Denver. I'd be somewhat 486 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 4: concerned about that. Yeah, but I think you will have 487 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 4: another There will be a big back added to that room. 488 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 4: And again it could be from in house, just kept 489 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 4: there as a placeholder. But that's a position that I 490 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 4: would be watching unless Quinch on sidens and I would 491 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 4: feel much better about it. 492 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, then you feel very good to go. So three quarterbacks, 493 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 2: two running backs, and then the third you're gonna have three. 494 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 2: Which is it the guy you drafted at the top 495 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: of the second round helps which we hope, or is 496 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 2: it something else? All right, wide. 497 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 4: Receiver at the wide receiver position, you've got reporting that 498 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 4: Gage Larva Dan has made the team, and so that 499 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 4: means to me it will be six wide receivers Judy Tillman, Thrash, 500 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 4: Carter and Bond and Larva Dan. 501 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 2: All right, So six there, yep, And that's possible because 502 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 2: you know, four quarterbacks. We talked about that. So now 503 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: you're at twelve into the tight end room. 504 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 4: I think you're going to keep two here. I think 505 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 4: you're going to keep in the joke and fan in. 506 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: We already know. Do we have the list of the 507 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 2: releases out here? Is it part of this now? 508 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure sal Canelo was released, Mitch van Voren 509 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 4: was released. 510 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we had, Yeah, we had the list. 511 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 4: Yesterday I think white Heart and Baits. I think that 512 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 4: you'll white Heart's banged up, so I think maybe the 513 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 4: way that you get the twenty four on offense initially 514 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 4: is you keep two tight ends. I think you'll end 515 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 4: up with three. This is all in flux, you know. 516 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 2: I think you'll end up with three on the screen 517 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 2: for you there we go yesterday. 518 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, so sal Knella and Van Vorn, so they still 519 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 4: have in that groom right now, white Heart and Baits, 520 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 4: who I have in yellow. I think ultimately they'll want three. 521 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 4: I think they can try to get away with two 522 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 4: on the initial get a couple guys on the PRAC 523 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 4: squad and use the elevations there because you're you're Chador 524 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 4: is going to be inactive, so yes, he's on the 525 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 4: fifty three, but that's a spot that you'll be able 526 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 4: to use. So on the offensive line, you've got your 527 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 4: five starters, and I think you could end up with 528 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 4: ten because you got Cornelius Lucas, You've got zax In, 529 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 4: You've got Luke Whippler, you've got Tevin Jenkins, and then 530 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 4: you just traded for Kati Leviston from the Rams. And 531 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 4: I would imagine if you traded for a person today 532 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 4: and give him a seventh round pick for. 533 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 2: Them, they will be on the fifty three. 534 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 4: Seventh round pick, seventh round and twenty twenty eight. The 535 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 4: way you said that, I thought you said second, no, no, no, twenty. 536 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: Seventy of them. Yeah, so there would be those five 537 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: and then the five starters, so that would be four. 538 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 2: They'll get you the twenty four. 539 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 4: Ye Defensively on the line, I think Miles Alex right, 540 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 4: Isaiah Maguire. 541 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 2: Are locks on the end. This is at the end. 542 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 4: And then I think you will get two of the 543 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 4: three from Tryon Shoyinka, who did not have a great preseason, 544 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 4: but as the pedigree former first round pick Cam Thomas, 545 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 4: who I think is I feel confident about him. And 546 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 4: then Julian Aquara and Aquirs banged up. 547 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 2: He suffered a. 548 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 4: Ribbing jury in that game, so we don't know how 549 00:26:54,320 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 4: that impacts his standing right there. Okay, defensive tackles, we've 550 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 4: got Malik Collins, Mason Graham, Shelby Harris, Mike Hall, and 551 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 4: Aiden Huntington. There you go, and I will find out 552 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 4: where my call's at. You know, if they iRED him 553 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 4: so then he would be out the first four. Yeah, 554 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 4: if they did. I don't know that. I don't think 555 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 4: the belief was that he was closer than that, So 556 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 4: I don't know that that's going to happen. 557 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 2: So there's your there's ten. Now we're in the linebackerom. 558 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 4: Okay, so linebacker room becomes interesting. Locks are Bush, Swessenger 559 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 4: and Baker. Diabate is a lock and he should be 560 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 4: ready to go for week one. So that's four. And 561 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 4: then Easton Moscaranus Arnold, who was your leading tackler in 562 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 4: the preseason reported Mary Kay's one has reported that he 563 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 4: is making the fifty three man roster, which, by the way, 564 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,959 Speaker 4: if all these reports are true, that Gage Donovan Mitchell, 565 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 4: Easton Mascarinus Arnold, Donovan Mitchell, that's what was in their tweet. 566 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Donovan McMillan, part of McMillan. 567 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 2: I do' don't worry. 568 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 4: Spider Mitchell still playing basketball, Gage Larvendan, Donovan McMillan, Easton 569 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 4: mosk Grains Arnold, Dom Jones and Isaiah Bond and Aiden Huntington. 570 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 4: That would mean six of our fifty three, more than 571 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 4: ten percent this roster are undrafted rookies this year. That'd 572 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 4: be more undrafted free agents that have made the team combined, 573 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 4: Oh my god in their tenure here. Yeah, it was 574 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 4: d Anthony Bell, Mahmoud Diabate, Ronnie Hickman. There might be another, 575 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 4: But that's a corner. Wasn't there a corner we claimed him? 576 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 4: Khalif Lassi we claimed from Kansas City Green? 577 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: Didn't we have an A J. Green? Wasn't he undrafted? Yeah? 578 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,719 Speaker 2: That might have been before twenty It might have been 579 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 2: been Depot would have been here obviously, but yeah, but 580 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 2: that's John Yeah, that might have been. Yeah, but that's 581 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: the one that jumped into my head. Yeah. 582 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 4: So anyway, that's just that's a shock number. So the 583 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 4: question then becomes is so you're fifteen. 584 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 2: As we get to the second. 585 00:28:55,080 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 4: Is is Winston Reid healthy enough at linebacker to make 586 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 4: the fifty three? He would he would be on or 587 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 4: is he somebody that's going to be on ir with 588 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 4: as he deals with his injury. So that's a spot 589 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 4: that's up in the air because we know Bookie Watson's 590 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 4: out corner. This is fast, so you know it's Denzel 591 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 4: and you know it's Greg Newsom. We know that Tony 592 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 4: Brown has been released. 593 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: We know that. 594 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 4: Chickaz A Enusium has been released. We throw that list 595 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 4: up there again, Gibbe. I would imagine cam Mitchell is 596 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 4: going to be here, all right. We know Christian Holmes, Ken, 597 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 4: Isaac Darius Rush have all been released. 598 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, who's our other guys? James is 599 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: the only Tony Brown? Is Tony Brown released? Yeah? His 600 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 2: contract was terminal. 601 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 4: And Mary Kay has Dom Jones in yep, So then 602 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 4: it would be Dom Jones, Denzel Ward, Greg Newsom, cam Mitchell, 603 00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 4: Miles Harden is. 604 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 2: My guess, So that would be your five there, yep. 605 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 4: And then Safety Hickman and Delpit We know Nick Needham, 606 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 4: we know was released. I think ray Sean is in, 607 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 4: Rayshon Jenkins, yeah, I would think, so that. 608 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 2: Would be three more so it could be two of 609 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: the three. 610 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 4: Of KZY, Edmunds and McMillan is my guess. And if 611 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 4: Donovan McMillan has been told he's in, it either means 612 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 4: Edmunds or KZ for one spot. Right, So, and then 613 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 4: the real question that is not up there, and the 614 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 4: position that I think is the most interesting is kicker yep. 615 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 4: And it just feels like it's I don't want to 616 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 4: use the word gotta be. It just feels like it 617 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 4: would be hard at this point for. 618 00:30:53,720 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 2: It not to be Andre Schmidt. Yeah, I mean, it's 619 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 2: just it's unfortunately. I love the hop love just feels 620 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 2: something's amiss. It just. 621 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 4: It again, those aren't These are not scores. It just 622 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 4: And that's why I don't want to use words like 623 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 4: has to be because this is my opinion, it just 624 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 4: feels like that at that position you need to go 625 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 4: in with with some confidence, and I just think it's 626 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 4: hard right now, unfortunately, coming off of last year and 627 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 4: then coming off of this preseason to be super confident. 628 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 4: Now if they are, that maybe speaks volumes about stuff 629 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 4: that we're not seeing because I'm we're not watching every 630 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 4: kick that he's hitting. But I really think that, you know, 631 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 4: going back to all the crazy talk that came out 632 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 4: of Saturday's game, was that they really wanted a field 633 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 4: goal attempt right there. They got it. Schmidt got it, 634 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 4: and he put it right down the middle. It didn't 635 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 4: just sneak in. 636 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 2: He piped it. 637 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 4: And that is a kick that he knows if he 638 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 4: misses it will not be him. No, that's a that 639 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 4: is a massive pressure kick and he crushed it so 640 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 4: so that's where I think you are. 641 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 2: That's that's that's really what it is. Yeah, that's the 642 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 2: real truth of it. And we have two and a 643 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 2: half hours to see how this all shakes out. And 644 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 2: then remember there will be you know, like this roster 645 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 2: that's fifty three at four o'clock will be different Thursday, 646 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 2: It'll be it'll be different tomorrow, tomorrow. Yeah. 647 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 4: So I would imagine and this is one of those things. 648 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 4: That's why this is such a tough day. There are 649 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 4: gonna be guys that are feeling great excitement, and that 650 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 4: excitement night might not have staying power. Now, look, if 651 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 4: you make this fifty three and you get replaced, you're 652 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 4: absolutely going to be invited back onto the team's practice 653 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 4: squad and you might end up getting assigned by somebody 654 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 4: else because you did something. 655 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 2: You're you showed that you belong in the National FOOTBA League. 656 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 4: But and while the practice squad guys get compensated nicely, 657 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 4: it is there's that is a big financial thing. I 658 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 4: think of the guys that are on our fit, I 659 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 4: think like Aiden is not going anywhere. That would be 660 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 4: the one that I would say is I feel that 661 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 4: he's not going anywhere. 662 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 2: Well, knock on wood. 663 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 3: There's a good chance it'll get released at three oh one, 664 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 3: but we we would have the roster because the team 665 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 3: takes the practice field at three twenty and it's open 666 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 3: to the media, so you're gonna know real quick who's 667 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 3: there and who's not. 668 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, So. 669 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 3: I mean, we should have this in the next ninety minutes, 670 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 3: knock on wood, but maybe it's ninety one minutes. 671 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 2: Gonna it's It's a fascinating day. It is not the 672 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 2: end all be all for what a roster will be, 673 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 2: and in many ends, I mean, this is the last 674 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 2: few guys on all of these rosters. So that's kind 675 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 2: of the way that all this stuff will break down 676 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 2: today and will be here every step of the way 677 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 2: guiding you through it. Those are your hot Topics of 678 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 2: the Day, presented by Universey Hospital, official healthcare partner of 679 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 2: your Cleveland Browns. There is a lot going on around 680 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 2: the league, including the Cincinnati Bengals being as all in 681 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 2: as they have ever been as a franchise. 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You believed in it? 697 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 2: Oh baby you did. 698 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 3: I think you and Annarella had him done by like 699 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 3: Valentine's Day and. 700 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 2: They started like that's like years ago, December. Yeah, it's like, 701 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 2: I do. 702 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 4: Think you might help me some uh transform. 703 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 2: It turkey or something. At the very feels like you're 704 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 2: own that. Uh. There was one other one that that 705 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 2: what was the other one of the relationship ones that 706 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 2: we oh it was uh Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga. 707 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 2: Never happened that never happened, but we always thought or 708 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 2: made it. Maybe it did. Such a connection in the shallows, 709 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 2: you get, it's connected in the shallows around the league. 710 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: Uh. 711 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 2: The Cincinnati Bengals put every chip they have into the 712 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 2: middle of the table. They got it done. It was 713 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 2: a hold in. Trey Hendrickson finally figured out the deal, 714 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 2: Bengals giving him fourteen more million this season, bumping his 715 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,439 Speaker 2: salary up to thirty making him the sixth high paid 716 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 2: pass rusher in the league. There will be no extension. 717 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 2: He will walk after this year. He's thirty, by the way, 718 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 2: like I think some people times people think he's like 719 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 2: thirty four. He's not. He's thirty. Yeah, and so it's 720 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 2: a one year all in for Cincinnati and he'll move 721 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 2: on to different pastures, greener or not. Certainly there will 722 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 2: be plenty of green Backs. But you for all the 723 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 2: criticism of them and the Boomer thing and all of 724 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 2: the stuff they do, if you were to tell me 725 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 2: a year ago they would have at that point they 726 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 2: had already locked up, hadn't done Chase yet, that they 727 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 2: would do Chase Higgins Hendrickson and keep them all. I 728 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 2: would have said, you're nuts. And there's plenty of guys 729 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 2: I talked to down there that I've had on through 730 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 2: the years, and Ben Baby and Mike Petreglia, all these 731 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 2: guys through the years, Jay Morrison have them on and 732 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 2: they're all like, no, they think they're keeping them all. 733 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 2: And I'd be like, what are you talking about? And 734 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 2: I remember I would sometimes bring that to you guys. 735 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 2: I'm like, they think they're keeping it all the more like, 736 00:36:53,840 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 2: how like seventy five percent of their caps four guys. 737 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 4: They put themselves in a tougher situation because they really 738 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 4: haven't unfortunately not drafted well outside of the guys that 739 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 4: they did and Chase Brown. You had Chase Brown and 740 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 4: being a darn good pick, but they have not drafted 741 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 4: well defensively, and they put all of their resources in 742 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 4: the draft pretty much outside of at the top when 743 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,439 Speaker 4: you had Burrow, Higgins and Chase in those years. But yeah, 744 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 4: that's been kind of the tough part. But they're going 745 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 4: for it. I don't know that they've got enough juice, 746 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 4: so we'll see, but at least they're going for it 747 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 4: and as they should. That's as they should. 748 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 2: Now. 749 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 4: I will say one thing that's interesting in these contracts 750 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 4: and always is it's always about the actual guarantees in 751 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 4: the contract. Yeah, there have been There is not a 752 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 4: single word has come out about Karen mclaurin's guarantees. 753 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 2: Okay, so yesterday there was the story from Pelisaro three 754 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 2: years ninety six he got a thirty million dollars signing bonus. Correct, 755 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 2: So that's all we knew, right in terms of guaranteed. 756 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 4: Again, nothing is in there, and he was making what 757 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 4: this year twenty seventies, so basically got like a three 758 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 4: million dollar raise this year. So the question is going 759 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 4: to be what is it beyond this year? And my 760 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 4: guess is I could be completely wrong, but we've done 761 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 4: this long enough that if there's big guarantees that put 762 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 4: him up there with the big boys, his agent has 763 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 4: everybody blasting that out. Yes, So what it feels like 764 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 4: is he did not get anywhere near the guarantees of 765 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 4: the big guys. 766 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 2: And what that means is that he. 767 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 4: Is obviously not putting that out and the team doesn't want. 768 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 4: The team's like happy that they got it done. They're 769 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 4: not trying to embarrass them. Verus like somebody's gonna get 770 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 4: eventually spot tracker over this. He's going to get the 771 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 4: actual contract and then it'll come out, but it's not 772 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,280 Speaker 4: being broadcast for a reason. 773 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 2: And that's that echoes a little bit. The way the 774 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 2: Bengals handled Hendrickson. They did not say contract extension. They 775 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 2: did not talk about they talked they I think, how 776 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 2: did they phrase it, reworked a reward contract, a reworked 777 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 2: contract for Trey Hendrickson. So that's the part of that. 778 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 2: The other thing that's interesting in Cincinnati is I truly 779 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 2: believe that they would have hit on Jermaine Burton that 780 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,760 Speaker 2: they probably wouldn't have paid t Higgins, but they weren't. 781 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 2: They he got but had some Yeah, he had some 782 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 2: offield stuff, but like if he blossomed last year, they 783 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 2: probably he was drafted to cover their rear end with 784 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 2: if Higgins walked, But when he didn't, you're staring at 785 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 2: Burrow and Chase and they're saying, sign our boy, and 786 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 2: so they did, and so they got it all down. 787 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 2: I think they will be like, we're not going to 788 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 2: have a whole lot of interest in them, because obviously 789 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 2: they're an in state and a divisional rival. But in 790 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,359 Speaker 2: terms of their games will be fun. Their games are 791 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 2: going to be fun. Oh, it's going to be a 792 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 2: steady died a forty one, thirty eight, thirty five, thirty four, 793 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 2: thirty five, thirty one, thirty one, twenty eight. They're going 794 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 2: to live in that world, Listen. That's what I always said. 795 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 4: Late, even when when the Detroit Lions had Stafford and 796 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 4: Megatron and we weren't winning anything, Brand and Pedigrew. 797 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 2: You knew they were gonna be fun to watch. 798 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 4: Like the game we had in Denver last year, it 799 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 4: was awful that we lost. Nobody's happy about the fact 800 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 4: that we lost. 801 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 2: That was a fun game, fun football. 802 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you didn't leave it and be like, oh yeah, yeah. 803 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 2: Winning is always the most fun. 804 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 4: But like that game was more fun certainly than like 805 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 4: if you had been leading all game nine to seven 806 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,359 Speaker 4: and they kick Alassic and field goal and you lose 807 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 4: ten to seven. 808 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 2: Yes, like that was just that was fun. There. There 809 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 2: was some excitement. So a couple other things, lots of 810 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 2: other things. Actually, Amari Cooper has found a new team 811 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 2: and it is one of his former teams. Coop back 812 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 2: with the Raiders on a one year deal. There as 813 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 2: the Raiders try to figure out kind of their weaponry. Look, 814 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 2: Pete's in his seventies. He's not there to rebuild anything. 815 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 2: He's trying to flip it quick and get them a 816 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 2: winning record. I think if they could have a winning record, 817 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 2: being the playoff hunt, that'd be cartwheels from Mark Davis 818 00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,720 Speaker 2: and everybody out there. So that's that's kind of the objective. 819 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 2: Speaking of the Raiders, one of their current receivers wants 820 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 2: out Jacoby Myers. He's coming off a career best eighty 821 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 2: seven for oney twenty seven to four touchdowns, three different 822 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 2: quarterbacks thrown to him last year. Gino there, Now, why 823 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 2: does he want them? I don't know. Uh, he's looking 824 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 2: for a contract extension. Well, obviously talks broke down. He's like, 825 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 2: just get rid of me. 826 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 4: They drafted Jack Beck, who's basically going to be a 827 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,919 Speaker 4: slot receiver, so I guess he's his replacement. So maybe 828 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 4: he knows it's he's not getting a longer deal there. 829 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. 830 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 4: I think Jacoby Myers is a very good player. 831 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that. 832 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 4: He's like a needle mover where you know, we're different 833 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 4: now because we have Jacoby Myers. 834 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 2: No, No, A couple others around the league. The Texans 835 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 2: releasing tackle Trent Brown, also from Houston and shifty and 836 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 2: named to watch Day's left tackle Cam Robinson, so they're 837 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 2: discussing trading him. Texans are not activating running back Joe 838 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 2: Mixon by Tuesday's four o'clock deadline, making eligible to play 839 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 2: at least the first four games of the season. That 840 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 2: could mean that Nick Chubb would be your starting quarterback 841 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,839 Speaker 2: or starting runner back rather in Houston. Now, I've heard 842 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 2: a mixed bag. 843 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,320 Speaker 4: It hasn't been positive that I hope it is. I 844 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 4: hope he goes out there and lights it up. 845 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 2: I know I love Nick Chubb. Of course, God bless them. 846 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 3: Uh still still right there, still there. 847 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:25,359 Speaker 2: But yeah, like that's that's wild to think that that 848 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 2: that's there because that team has everything else. If CJ 849 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 2: bounces back, and I believe that he will, either defense 850 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 2: is loaded. 851 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 4: And the kid they draft in the second round is 852 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 4: kind of like another Nico Con. So they're gonna have 853 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 4: two big Nico's and then they're gonna have Christian Kirk 854 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 4: Balden Schultz. 855 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 2: That's Stroud. 856 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 4: And the reports were coming out right, I'm sure you 857 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 4: saw this that Stroud wasn't allowed to audible or change 858 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 4: protections or. 859 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 2: Do anything, which seems odd. 860 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 4: It's also odd though, this is how the two years 861 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 4: ago Slowik was like the hottest offensive coordinator of the league, 862 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,720 Speaker 4: and then last year it's like he can't coach anymore. 863 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 4: That's some of the stuff that sometimes is wild in 864 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 4: the NFL. Yeah, yeah, that is true. Tommy's releasing former 865 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 4: Brown center Nick Harris. Loved Nick, just the injury thing. 866 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,359 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, crushed that one year We had him 867 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 4: in here and he was so excited and got dinged 868 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 4: and that was always the thing for him. Tommy DeVito 869 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 4: is released by the g Man. Tommy Cutlets will always 870 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 4: have his agent, God bless him. And the Packers releasing 871 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 4: linebacker Isaiah Simmons. We loved him in the process. We 872 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 4: weren't right on him. It just didn't work for him 873 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 4: in the pros the way we thought no. 874 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 2: And it's one of those where you wonder, was he 875 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 2: just never. 876 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 4: Put at some point it's on the player, right, but 877 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 4: was he asked to be too much of a tweener 878 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 4: where he never really got good at one of the things. 879 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 4: I mean, he was such a beast in college. But 880 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 4: sometimes that doesn't happen, you know. I remember, going back 881 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 4: years years years, I want to say he was out 882 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 4: of b C. 883 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 2: Aaron Curry, Oh, yeah, was Aaron Curry was out of 884 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,799 Speaker 2: Wake for us, out Awake, I went to the Seahawks. Seahawks. Yeah, 885 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 2: he actually was drafted ahead of Luriniitis and. 886 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 4: Was like considered. But yeah, the most can't miss and 887 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 4: it just never no worked out. It's a tough evaluation. 888 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,439 Speaker 4: I'm surprised obviously. I think guys a pretty darn talented guy, 889 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 4: but I don't know that he fits what we need. 890 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 2: No, And I think sometimes like if it's just like 891 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 2: any other position, if you are not incubated in a 892 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 2: position to succeed, and you lose faith, you lose confidence 893 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,879 Speaker 2: who you are, and you forget who you are. And 894 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 2: you know, the key for all these dudes is you know, 895 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 2: by the time you get to Sunday or practices, it's 896 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 2: to be ten feet tall and bulletproof. And it doesn't 897 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 2: always work that way for various reasons, some of it 898 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,399 Speaker 2: on your end and some of it on the other's end. 899 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 2: All right, I'll do this as succinctly as I can, 900 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 2: But there's a lot of layers to this. What's going 901 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 2: on down in Columbus that's gotten a lot of attention today. 902 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 2: We'll try to make sense of that. Coming up next. 903 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 2: You listen to Cleveland Browns Daily presented by bally Bet, 904 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 2: official sportsmaning partner your Cleveland Browns on eight fifty esp 905 00:44:58,800 --> 00:44:59,320 Speaker 2: in Cleveland. 906 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: You're listening to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland, 907 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: presented by bally Bet sports Book, an official sports betting 908 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 1: partner of your Cleveland Browns. Please bet responsibly. 909 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 2: Add more fun, add more fun to your fandom with 910 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 2: the bally Bet sports Book app downloaded to Gay. 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Not even what I was talking about. 921 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:09,280 Speaker 4: Oh cheese, Oh, just my goodness. 922 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,880 Speaker 2: Great, it's me making fun of my beautiful T shirt 923 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 2: from the Cleveland. I would tell you this, you want 924 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 2: to come in here and model that for the people 925 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 2: right now we were making fun of your te It 926 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 2: just it's a lot of choices that were made on 927 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 2: a T shirt. No, it's just strange that they put 928 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,800 Speaker 2: all of those things on what should have been just 929 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,280 Speaker 2: a very simple brown V neck T shirt with a 930 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 2: with our logo on it, which is what you would do, 931 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 2: all right, So we're all parents. It's a it's a 932 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 2: tough world to live in right now, us new brand new. 933 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 2: In some instances, it's a tough world to live in 934 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 2: right now because everybody has their own truth, and it's 935 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 2: almost like it's too much of a hassle to look 936 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 2: into the real truth. We just today, it's too much 937 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 2: of a hassle to look into the real truth. So 938 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,479 Speaker 2: you just run with this truth as it makes sense 939 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,439 Speaker 2: to you. So yesterday I saw this that Ohio State 940 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 2: had banned Dave Portnoy, the founder of barstool and one 941 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,279 Speaker 2: of the most successful sports entrepreneurs of all time, that 942 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 2: they had banned him. Also Michigan alumnus and massive Michigan booster, 943 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,319 Speaker 2: who enabled Connor stallions in a certain way and absolutely 944 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 2: contributed to Bryce Underwood ending up at Michigan. He was 945 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,800 Speaker 2: part of organizing all of that. But look, they've invited 946 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 2: Desmond Howard all the time, so there had to be 947 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 2: more to it. And I blame myself a little bit 948 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 2: for this. I had put this in my morning show 949 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 2: without contacting Ross b Yorke, the athletic director at Ohio State, 950 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:54,840 Speaker 2: to verify it, and I should have. Yeah, so before 951 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 2: I started this morning, Ross Dellinger of Yahoo had the 952 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 2: story all over it. He was all over it. It 953 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 2: was not Ohio State's decision to ban ave Portland. They 954 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,320 Speaker 2: didn't ban anybody from Ohio Stadium. But what they did 955 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 2: was it was a Fox decision in that the Fox 956 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,839 Speaker 2: Game Day crew will be in the studio for their 957 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 2: last segment because they kick at noon, will be in 958 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 2: the studio in the stadium for their last segment before 959 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:23,320 Speaker 2: the noon kick. And apparently Portnoy's part of the show, 960 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,840 Speaker 2: which is they've now partnered Barstool and Fox have partnered, 961 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 2: that part of the show was never going to be 962 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 2: in the shoe. Okay. Now, what I don't know and 963 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:38,360 Speaker 2: I don't care is if Ohio State said the Barstool 964 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 2: Tailgate show can't be on campus. Then they have the 965 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 2: right to do that. You have, you request a credential, 966 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,240 Speaker 2: you request space to do things. It's up to Ohio 967 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 2: State if they want to permit that or not. They're 968 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 2: under no obligation to grant permission to anybody, So I 969 00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 2: don't know that part. That part doesn't matter. I'm not 970 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 2: talking about that. He was not per ros Bijork. He 971 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,319 Speaker 2: was the athletic director at Ohio State. He was not 972 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 2: banned or not permitted to be an Ohio stadium. Now. 973 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if he applied for a credential. I 974 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 2: don't know if Fox applied for a credential. I don't know. 975 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 3: Well, and the Yahoo people said Fox's comment was only 976 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,360 Speaker 3: the desk crew will be inside the stadium, and that 977 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 3: portnoy excuse me, wouldn't be in any big ten stadiums 978 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 3: this year. 979 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, which makes it because I think what they're going 980 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 2: to try to do. And I also probably I saw 981 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,760 Speaker 2: our buddies at Awful Announcing and they were are spot 982 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,840 Speaker 2: on this. It feels like Fox and Barstool did like 983 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 2: a shotgun marriage without a whole lot of dialogue about 984 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,720 Speaker 2: how all of what it was going to actually look like. Yeah, 985 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,319 Speaker 2: So the way I understand it, Barstools still is going 986 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,040 Speaker 2: to try to take their tailgate show on the road. 987 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 2: I don't know if they're always on campus or not. 988 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 2: Some campuses probably can't wait to have them because they 989 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 2: don't get a whole lot of attention. This is Ohio 990 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 2: State in Texas. The whole college football world is going 991 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,360 Speaker 2: to be there Saturday. Every pregame show on the planet 992 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 2: is going to be their Saturday. I know, when's the 993 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 2: last time either of you were around Ohio Stadium. As 994 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,279 Speaker 2: big as that space is, there's not that much of it. 995 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,760 Speaker 2: You got a river on one side, you have parking, 996 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 2: you have parking garages on the other. The Ohio Stadium 997 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,840 Speaker 2: parking lot is small. Yeah, when you consider it's one 998 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 2: hundred five thousand people going into that price. You guys 999 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 2: have parked down there. You've been to the tailgates. Some 1000 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 2: of these tailgates are a mile and a half away 1001 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,920 Speaker 2: and it's still campus. You're parking in grass fields and 1002 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 2: stuff like there. 1003 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,399 Speaker 3: Take a couple of cocktails with you as you walk, 1004 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,240 Speaker 3: because otherwise you're sober by. 1005 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like some of these places where every 1006 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 2: there's parking everywhere around the stadium. There isn't that much, 1007 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,719 Speaker 2: so that part I can't comment to, but they did 1008 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,400 Speaker 2: not deny him access in any way. So there you go. 1009 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,760 Speaker 2: There it is, and that's the real truth. That's the truth. 1010 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,359 Speaker 2: That's it, Boots, that's that's that's the way that it 1011 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 2: that's the way that it shook out. 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If so much is made of these, of 1036 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 2: every single cutdown and then you wake up tomorrow and 1037 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 2: things change again, where are you kind of with the 1038 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 2: way that this is all covered, in the way it's 1039 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 2: talked about. 1040 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 5: I can't believe you don't want to talk about Taylor Swift, 1041 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,160 Speaker 5: you know, going right to the fifty three. 1042 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,440 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, who's can't? I'm sorry? What what happened? What 1043 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,360 Speaker 2: happened today? What happened? What happened? 1044 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 5: Guys? 1045 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 2: Hi? Guys? What is this? Is Taylor as Taylor Swiss? 1046 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 2: To make news? I broke it to my kids. Is 1047 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 2: she a prospect in the Guardians organization? 1048 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:53,439 Speaker 5: Hey, hey, the Guardian's twenty twenty six schedules just for release. 1049 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:54,399 Speaker 5: They're opening out here. 1050 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,800 Speaker 2: But timing on that, huh on that for Major League Baseball. 1051 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 4: The kids are very excited about this engagement. 1052 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 2: They are very excited about it, and. 1053 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 5: I don't want to do a victory lap. 1054 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:09,960 Speaker 2: They think it's one step closer to them living in Cleveland, which. 1055 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 5: They are very we we've all heard them. 1056 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,359 Speaker 4: Let's say Chris Rose was at JoJo's yesterday and they 1057 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,799 Speaker 4: part of like bringing somebody into JoJo's is there for 1058 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:20,680 Speaker 4: the for they show. 1059 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 2: This is where, this is where they were They really yeah, they. 1060 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:25,880 Speaker 5: Don't say. 1061 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:27,920 Speaker 3: Right. 1062 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,480 Speaker 5: What they don't say is this is where Nathan and 1063 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 5: Siciliano sat back in October. They don't. 1064 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,560 Speaker 2: They don't say that I was at the bar. No, 1065 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:37,880 Speaker 2: they should have belly up. 1066 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:38,239 Speaker 4: I know. 1067 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 5: I want I just want to do my victory lap 1068 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,479 Speaker 5: real quick. I was the very first person to ever 1069 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,320 Speaker 5: ask Travis about this on camera. I just want people. 1070 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,320 Speaker 2: To give us the details. How did this happen? 1071 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:53,440 Speaker 5: When training camp in August of twenty twenty three and 1072 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,279 Speaker 5: we had him live on an NFL network and I'm like, 1073 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,440 Speaker 5: i'd heard it was kind of in the internet that 1074 00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,360 Speaker 5: he had tried to shoot a shot, and I'm like, 1075 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 5: I'm going to nailhim down. And he he didn't say much, 1076 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,279 Speaker 5: but what he didn't say, and how awkward he made 1077 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 5: it looked, and how at one point when I pressed 1078 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,480 Speaker 5: he looked at the camera and went, all right, and 1079 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 5: that's gonna do it. Let's wrap it up here on 1080 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:14,319 Speaker 5: NFL network. 1081 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,879 Speaker 2: I was like, all right, now, hold on, So this 1082 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:22,360 Speaker 2: is before they got together, or so was when you 1083 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,640 Speaker 2: or they were they together at this point? Oh? 1084 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 5: No, they were not in any way public. At this 1085 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 5: point there had been over this was he had he 1086 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:33,960 Speaker 5: had kind Jason had mentioned on the pod a day 1087 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:38,759 Speaker 5: earlier something about going to the show and Travis had 1088 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 5: a friendship bracelet ready but like he never got to 1089 00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,840 Speaker 5: meet her. And so I said, did you really shoot 1090 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,800 Speaker 5: your shot? And he was like, I'm not going to 1091 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:53,480 Speaker 5: talk about this, and I said, but has she reached 1092 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 5: out since you shot your shot? And that's when he 1093 00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,399 Speaker 5: went and that's going to wrap it up and we're 1094 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 5: going to move on. And Michael Robinson went, look what 1095 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,760 Speaker 5: you did, Like, you shot your shot? And you didn't 1096 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:09,560 Speaker 5: say no, and that was it. Yeah, anyway, I'm happy 1097 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,280 Speaker 5: for them both, truly. I take no credit. 1098 00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:19,160 Speaker 2: Well be something if you did no, you're like, well, 1099 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,360 Speaker 2: because like Aaron Andrews or Carissa Thompson have like a 1100 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,359 Speaker 2: part of me. Where's your victory lap? Yeah? Where? 1101 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,200 Speaker 4: I don't know why you weren't in the engagement announcement 1102 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:26,920 Speaker 4: I should have been. 1103 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 5: Feels like a real and Carissa have far more to 1104 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,520 Speaker 5: do it, do with it than I. I have nothing 1105 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,200 Speaker 5: to do with it whatsoever. I'm just a guy that 1106 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,200 Speaker 5: asked a question. Moving on back to the fifty three? 1107 00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:37,839 Speaker 5: What was the question? 1108 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 4: What? 1109 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,319 Speaker 5: Like, what's the biggest. 1110 00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 2: Take it wherever you want to? 1111 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think what or just what do you think 1112 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:43,480 Speaker 4: about the day? 1113 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,960 Speaker 5: Okay? So my thing is this last year there were 1114 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 5: only twenty seven players claimed, and I mean initially right 1115 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:56,040 Speaker 5: after cutdown, and the Panthers claimed seven of those twenty seven. 1116 00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,480 Speaker 5: They had the number one spot. Right now, the Titans 1117 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 5: have the number one spot. Obviously the Browns are number two. 1118 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,520 Speaker 5: So I think Tennessee is going to claim a lot 1119 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 5: of players. But there is this idea, oh my god, 1120 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 5: can we get this guy through waivers when In reality, 1121 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 5: there aren't nearly as many claims of players that turn 1122 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,239 Speaker 5: out to have a lasting impact on a team that 1123 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:23,280 Speaker 5: people think now they're important to you, meaning they're important 1124 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,279 Speaker 5: to one of the thirty two in that moment, like hey, 1125 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,239 Speaker 5: we love this kid. We don't want to cut them 1126 00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 5: in risk losing them in the moment. They're important long term, 1127 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 5: whether or not these cut down day waiver claims ever 1128 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 5: truly moved the needle. There are only so many of them, 1129 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,399 Speaker 5: so I would just go big picture. That is one 1130 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,319 Speaker 5: thing that I think people should remember. The other thing, too, 1131 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 5: is the word initial. Fifty three initial in front of 1132 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,160 Speaker 5: fifty three. To me is important because, as you guys 1133 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,040 Speaker 5: and I've been listening have pointed out, a lot can 1134 00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:01,040 Speaker 5: change with either waiver claims or vested veterans coming back 1135 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 5: after the first week where their salaries and guaranteed things 1136 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,840 Speaker 5: like that, A lot can change in the next forty 1137 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,040 Speaker 5: eight hours to really ten. 1138 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:16,520 Speaker 4: Days right now, if we are to believe reports that 1139 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:23,600 Speaker 4: are currently out there, Aiden Huntington, Donovan McMillan, Gage, Larvadan, 1140 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:29,480 Speaker 4: Eastern Moscarenus, Arnold, Isaiah Bond, and I'm missing one other 1141 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:34,280 Speaker 4: one from an undrafted free agent standpoint, I think I'm missing. 1142 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:34,720 Speaker 2: One more. 1143 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,160 Speaker 5: Tom Jones, Tom Jones. 1144 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:38,440 Speaker 2: Dom Jon. 1145 00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's six, Okay, then you add that to 1146 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:48,680 Speaker 4: Mason Graham seven, Dylan Sampson eight, Carson Swestinger nine, Quin 1147 00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:54,880 Speaker 4: Sewan if he gets here, ten, Harold Fannin eleven, Dylan 1148 00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:59,000 Speaker 4: Gabriel twelve, thirteen. We could be at a looking at 1149 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,520 Speaker 4: thirteen to fifty would be an even twenty five percent. 1150 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:06,040 Speaker 4: But yeah, we're twenty five percent of this roster are rookies. Yeah, 1151 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 4: well we've agreed. Would you be surprised by that number? 1152 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:10,200 Speaker 2: One? 1153 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,240 Speaker 4: And that's got to be one of the highest rates since, 1154 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,960 Speaker 4: like we were back in the fifteen to. 1155 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,320 Speaker 5: Sixteen are it's a really high number. But then again, 1156 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:22,080 Speaker 5: we all agree, and we've all been saying, I mean, 1157 00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 5: even going back to last year, when you realize that 1158 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,360 Speaker 5: it was going downhill last year, that this team has 1159 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,000 Speaker 5: to get younger. I don't know that all those names 1160 00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:33,080 Speaker 5: are going to stick. 1161 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,400 Speaker 2: That's I mean initial exactly, Yeah. 1162 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:36,960 Speaker 5: The initials. Some of them will get through to the 1163 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,680 Speaker 5: practice squad and there may be decisions made where you know, 1164 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,840 Speaker 5: you pick somebody else up and one of those guys 1165 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,400 Speaker 5: has to get cut and hopefully does land on the 1166 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,680 Speaker 5: other list, the list of sixteen where you're still getting 1167 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,160 Speaker 5: a good paying job and you're just one injury or 1168 00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,800 Speaker 5: one good day of practice away from getting up to 1169 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:59,240 Speaker 5: the game day roster. We need youth. I think anyone 1170 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,240 Speaker 5: who looks at this team last year knows that you 1171 00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:07,280 Speaker 5: need youth, and that's the only way to get out 1172 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:11,640 Speaker 5: from under some of the salary cat burdens of the 1173 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:16,360 Speaker 5: last few years. Hopefully a good percentage of those names 1174 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,240 Speaker 5: that you just listed of the rookies turn out to 1175 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,520 Speaker 5: be players that you can count on for years to come. 1176 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,400 Speaker 2: Andrew, what did you make of the news last night 1177 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,120 Speaker 2: of Kenny Pickett being traded to Las Vegas. 1178 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,960 Speaker 5: I think my brother framed it really well this morning 1179 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:33,920 Speaker 5: when he texted me, and I hadn't looked at it 1180 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:40,120 Speaker 5: this way. You traded DTR for a five, right, think 1181 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,560 Speaker 5: about it. You traded DTR and a five for Kenny Pickett, 1182 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,080 Speaker 5: and then you flip Kenny Pickett for a five. If 1183 00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,360 Speaker 5: I told you last year that after seeing DTR for 1184 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:50,840 Speaker 5: a couple of years, and we all love him, and 1185 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,640 Speaker 5: it was great, Nathan, you and I got to catch 1186 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 5: up with him and a bunch of other Browns personnel 1187 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,760 Speaker 5: did on the field in Philadelphia. Love him, wish the 1188 00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,520 Speaker 5: best for him, and I do think he could play 1189 00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,920 Speaker 5: in this league. But if I had told you last year, hey, 1190 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:03,800 Speaker 5: we're going to get a five for DTR, which is 1191 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,880 Speaker 5: what you spent initially when you drafted him, I think 1192 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:11,240 Speaker 5: everyone would have been happy you move on. In the meantime, 1193 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,400 Speaker 5: you get Kenny Pickett moving through the building. Yes, he 1194 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,840 Speaker 5: had an opportunity to be the guy day number one, 1195 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,400 Speaker 5: and then he got hurt and it didn't happen. Four 1196 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,320 Speaker 5: quarterbacks could have been done, but it's a lot easier 1197 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,120 Speaker 5: with three. Four would have been Even though ab said 1198 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,680 Speaker 5: it's not a burden, it's an opportunity. It's a heck 1199 01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:32,160 Speaker 5: of a lot easier to navigate the rest of your roster. Nathan, 1200 01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,240 Speaker 5: you just listed all those young guys like to try 1201 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 5: to figure out the secondary, to try to figure out 1202 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:40,080 Speaker 5: what you're doing with maybe an injury on O line 1203 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,320 Speaker 5: or an injury on DLI. It's a heck of a 1204 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,760 Speaker 5: lot easier when you're only carrying. 1205 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:53,720 Speaker 4: Three much or even two, when yeah, you got four's. 1206 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,800 Speaker 5: Fours unnecessary for you have to navigate a lot of 1207 01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,760 Speaker 5: other things. 1208 01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:02,400 Speaker 4: What is your take on the kicker situation? What would 1209 01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,560 Speaker 4: you go leaving your Syracuse bias out of it if 1210 01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:06,280 Speaker 4: you are able? 1211 01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,040 Speaker 5: I think and you and I talked about this, and 1212 01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,320 Speaker 5: I wish, by the way, with all the tinfoil hat 1213 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:17,200 Speaker 5: conspiracies about the quarterbacks that were running rampant on Sunday, 1214 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,760 Speaker 5: that people had listened to the final ten minutes of 1215 01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,000 Speaker 5: the game. I don't mean clock time, I just mean 1216 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,040 Speaker 5: real time when you brought it up and we unpacked 1217 01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:29,640 Speaker 5: it throughout that not only final Browns drive with Snoop, 1218 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,480 Speaker 5: but the final Rams drive when it became apparent that 1219 01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,360 Speaker 5: they were probably going to score. This sets up an 1220 01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 5: endo game situation for the kicker, and we need to 1221 01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,520 Speaker 5: figure out if Andre Schmidt can do it, and he did. 1222 01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:42,800 Speaker 5: Now the Browns have to figure out as they look around, 1223 01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:44,760 Speaker 5: is there another guy out there, maybe a veteran that 1224 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,960 Speaker 5: they trust a little bit more. Schmid still never kicked 1225 01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,240 Speaker 5: in a regular season NFL game. He's bounced around with 1226 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,200 Speaker 5: the Bears for a little bit. And yes he had 1227 01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:56,360 Speaker 5: a great college career. His Luke Groza Award was actually 1228 01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,760 Speaker 5: not as a senior, it was earlier in his career 1229 01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 5: and then at the end of his Syracuse career, maybe 1230 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:05,080 Speaker 5: not as hot as the beginning of his career, but 1231 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,720 Speaker 5: he proved that in a pressure situation he could make it. 1232 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,080 Speaker 5: That pressure situation against the Rams in front of a 1233 01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,640 Speaker 5: sparse crowd is going to be a lot different than 1234 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,560 Speaker 5: the one he might face if he is the guy 1235 01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,320 Speaker 5: on September seventh with the packed house and Joe Burrow 1236 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:24,480 Speaker 5: on the other sideline. But I do think, and Nathan, 1237 01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,400 Speaker 5: I know you brought this up yesterday, that there is 1238 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,640 Speaker 5: a difficult decision to make and they have to figure 1239 01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,240 Speaker 5: out whether or not they want to eat the money 1240 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:31,960 Speaker 5: and move on. 1241 01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right now. 1242 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:38,520 Speaker 4: You would you be leaning towards if it was an 1243 01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 4: in house solution, towards Schmidt. 1244 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,760 Speaker 5: If it's in house, yes, I think. Look, we all 1245 01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:49,880 Speaker 5: love Dustin. You just can't be live at extra points 1246 01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:53,560 Speaker 5: on the field. You can't forget about Look two years ago, 1247 01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:57,680 Speaker 5: he was a weapon from fifty plus. He wasn't just 1248 01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,920 Speaker 5: a oh maybe he makes this. He was a weapon 1249 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:04,560 Speaker 5: from fifty plus. We all agree that this is going 1250 01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,880 Speaker 5: to be another one of those years where the defense 1251 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,880 Speaker 5: hopefully plays well and the offense you're not going to 1252 01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:14,080 Speaker 5: win too many shootouts, So your kicker is important, right, 1253 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:18,919 Speaker 5: Every extra point matters. You know, just just getting into 1254 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,439 Speaker 5: getting to the forty for a lot of teams means 1255 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,280 Speaker 5: you're in field goal range. The Brown's got to get 1256 01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,360 Speaker 5: back to Hey, if you're at the forty year in 1257 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,680 Speaker 5: field goal range. I realize you can't bank on fifty 1258 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,720 Speaker 5: eight yarders every week, but look around the league. Camb 1259 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,400 Speaker 5: Little just nailed us seventy yarder and then another sixty 1260 01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:38,400 Speaker 5: plus Brandon Aubrey. The game has changed, and two years 1261 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,840 Speaker 5: ago the Browns were one of those teams for which 1262 01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,920 Speaker 5: you can say, heyh's cross midfield and we got a chance. 1263 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,640 Speaker 5: I don't know that Andre Schmidt has that kind of leg, 1264 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,080 Speaker 5: but you got to be able to rely on your kicker. 1265 01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:56,520 Speaker 2: What what are you most curious about with this roster 1266 01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,600 Speaker 2: between now and four o'clock our forty five minutes? 1267 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:04,440 Speaker 5: What the backfield looks like? If you guys were just 1268 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,560 Speaker 5: talking about that too, If they're truly moving on from 1269 01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,240 Speaker 5: Pierre Strong, does he come back on the practice squad? 1270 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,920 Speaker 5: Can you trust Amani Marshall and blitz pick up? He 1271 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,000 Speaker 5: certainly had the nice pickup to get Shador a little 1272 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,520 Speaker 5: pocket movement and the ability to throw to Caden Davis 1273 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,800 Speaker 5: and Carolina, but he also couldn't hold the blocking and 1274 01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:21,960 Speaker 5: he got Joe flacco sack. It was the only reason, 1275 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,440 Speaker 5: but obviously the protection was part of it there when 1276 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,560 Speaker 5: Flacco took his only sack on Saturday. I know you 1277 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,920 Speaker 5: brought up Audric Estimae. Obviously there's the Tommy Reese connection. 1278 01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,480 Speaker 5: You and I Nathan were texting yesterday. When I saw 1279 01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:35,560 Speaker 5: that he was getting cut loose, then that might be 1280 01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,600 Speaker 5: an option. And then what's the deal with Judkins? Like, listen, 1281 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,040 Speaker 5: look at the suspensions around the league. A lot of 1282 01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:45,600 Speaker 5: teams are still waiting DeMarcus Robinson. They're still waiting there 1283 01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,520 Speaker 5: for some details. In San Francisco, we're a cut down day, 1284 01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,640 Speaker 5: and I know that they're not all in one basket 1285 01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:55,360 Speaker 5: from three forty five Park, But I would think that 1286 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,720 Speaker 5: the Browns are not the only team that is hoping 1287 01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:02,480 Speaker 5: for some kind of clarity for guys that are in 1288 01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,120 Speaker 5: the middle of the disciplinary process. So hopefully we figure 1289 01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:05,840 Speaker 5: something out soon. 1290 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:09,520 Speaker 4: I know it doesn't have to be, but do you 1291 01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,680 Speaker 4: feel like there's kind of at least an In my mind, 1292 01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,440 Speaker 4: it feels like there's least an artificial deadline with Quinjohn 1293 01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,240 Speaker 4: of today by four I might I would. 1294 01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:22,040 Speaker 5: Think so, Yeah, I would think so, But I don't know. 1295 01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,360 Speaker 5: I don't know for certain. I mean we thought this 1296 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,280 Speaker 5: would be over a couple of weeks ago. When I 1297 01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:31,480 Speaker 5: say over, I mean at least understand where where the 1298 01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,480 Speaker 5: finish line is, like, get some kind of clarity on 1299 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,120 Speaker 5: either the contract or the discipline or both. And we 1300 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:38,200 Speaker 5: still don't. 1301 01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,120 Speaker 2: Do you guys have any point of reference on something 1302 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:41,320 Speaker 2: like this? 1303 01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,800 Speaker 5: I don't. I was thinking about that. I don't know 1304 01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:48,800 Speaker 5: the last time that there was a suspension like this 1305 01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:53,080 Speaker 5: or or a looming disciplinary issue. Let's put it that here, 1306 01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:54,720 Speaker 5: because I don't know that he's going to get suspended 1307 01:05:54,960 --> 01:06:00,200 Speaker 5: for an unsigned that's raft to pick. I just I can't. 1308 01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:03,680 Speaker 2: I can't think. I couldn't think of one either, as 1309 01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:05,040 Speaker 2: wrack of my brain trying to think if there was 1310 01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,280 Speaker 2: any circumstances that were similar, and I really couldn't come 1311 01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:07,800 Speaker 2: up with anything. 1312 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:11,000 Speaker 4: And and if if the reporting is to be believed 1313 01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:15,960 Speaker 4: that the hang up is over guaranteed money, like at 1314 01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:21,320 Speaker 4: some point I would imagine, look, just get in here 1315 01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,800 Speaker 4: and play, and if you don't do anything off the 1316 01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:27,560 Speaker 4: field again it's basically a guaranteed contract. 1317 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:34,200 Speaker 5: Right, But at the same time, you know, there's there's 1318 01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:38,120 Speaker 5: basic language and all deals that say that if if 1319 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,240 Speaker 5: you run a foul of the NFL's Personal Conduct Policy, 1320 01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:45,760 Speaker 5: we automatically can remove guarantees avoid it. 1321 01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:49,640 Speaker 4: Yes, right, which has happened, which, like I think had 1322 01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,320 Speaker 4: he been signed it would hasn't that could. 1323 01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,000 Speaker 2: Have what what if? 1324 01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,200 Speaker 5: What if there is no discipline? 1325 01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:01,040 Speaker 2: Don't they have to have some lead something like how 1326 01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:01,720 Speaker 2: hard is this? 1327 01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,320 Speaker 4: Like, Okay, here are the facts, here's what was in 1328 01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,760 Speaker 4: the report, right, and the fact that you know there 1329 01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:11,120 Speaker 4: are things that at least provide credible doubt as to 1330 01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,160 Speaker 4: what went down in that situation. 1331 01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:17,080 Speaker 2: We're not going to suspend you. This is me talking. 1332 01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,040 Speaker 4: This is a completely different conversation for another day. 1333 01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:20,720 Speaker 2: But like, if you are. 1334 01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:25,400 Speaker 4: Exonerated in a court of law in this country, to me, 1335 01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,800 Speaker 4: then you should not be facing discipline. 1336 01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:33,720 Speaker 5: And discipline of course, plenty of other players and obviously 1337 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:38,160 Speaker 5: there there's we know of one, right, then plenty of 1338 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:43,600 Speaker 5: other players have been suspended even when the criminal cases 1339 01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:44,800 Speaker 5: go away. 1340 01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:46,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure. 1341 01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:48,120 Speaker 4: And I do think that there could be some type 1342 01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,120 Speaker 4: of a delineation that if you are willing to pay 1343 01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,000 Speaker 4: money to settle a case to make it go away. 1344 01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:55,520 Speaker 2: Yes, that is some way of that saying. 1345 01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,920 Speaker 4: On some level, I felt the need to make right 1346 01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,160 Speaker 4: for something, and you could say that, Okay, maybe I'm 1347 01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,360 Speaker 4: wrongdoing has a heard, But in an event where like 1348 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,120 Speaker 4: there just are no charges, it's a he said, she said, 1349 01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:09,120 Speaker 4: and there is conflicting evidence. And that's just based on 1350 01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:10,920 Speaker 4: the report that was issued by the law enforcement. I 1351 01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:12,800 Speaker 4: don't know what happened. I wasn't there Probably only two 1352 01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:13,600 Speaker 4: people know what happened. 1353 01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:15,360 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1354 01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,800 Speaker 4: If that's not the case, if this wasn't a paid 1355 01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:21,080 Speaker 4: to go away situation, like what are we doing here? 1356 01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:21,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1357 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:26,040 Speaker 5: Well, also look at the league disciplinary calendar here for 1358 01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:27,200 Speaker 5: a guy like Rashi Rice. 1359 01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:30,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then that one's being pushed. That doesn't make 1360 01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:31,240 Speaker 2: any sense either. 1361 01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,000 Speaker 5: That one doesn't make any sense either. Now there's another 1362 01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,280 Speaker 5: way to look at it too. I know there's the 1363 01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,320 Speaker 5: Chiefs conspiracy theory, which I don't buy. But some fans 1364 01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:39,640 Speaker 5: are up at arms. Oh are you gonna let him 1365 01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,479 Speaker 5: play all through September and all these nationally televised games 1366 01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:44,880 Speaker 5: and Brazil and all this. Yeah, No, I get that 1367 01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:46,880 Speaker 5: side of it, But the other side of it is, 1368 01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:50,320 Speaker 5: let's say he has his hearing in October, and then 1369 01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:53,000 Speaker 5: that takes a couple of weeks for the decision, and 1370 01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:56,320 Speaker 5: then he gets a hefty suspension. He might be gone 1371 01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:58,559 Speaker 5: for the year at that point and the Chiefs may 1372 01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,360 Speaker 5: never get him back. So do you what of the 1373 01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:03,360 Speaker 5: first half of the year the second half of the year. Look, 1374 01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,400 Speaker 5: his suspension might only be a matter of games, but 1375 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,799 Speaker 5: no one around the league thinks it's only a handful 1376 01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,880 Speaker 5: of games. It's multiple felonies here we're talking about. 1377 01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the note. And also, like if you're in 1378 01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,760 Speaker 2: the conspiracy group that thinks like they're trying to make 1379 01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,040 Speaker 2: sure that they get ratings for Brazil games, let me 1380 01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,000 Speaker 2: just break some news to your Rashi Rice is not 1381 01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,080 Speaker 2: changing ratings in any way, shape or form. He's not Mahomes, 1382 01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,320 Speaker 2: he is not the guy who just got engaged the 1383 01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,479 Speaker 2: most famous woman on the planet. So as long as 1384 01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:29,840 Speaker 2: they're involved, they'll be just fine. 1385 01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:34,080 Speaker 5: In kansasit that game is going to get a massive number, massive. 1386 01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:37,960 Speaker 2: Almost immune to that. The NFL is immune to that number. 1387 01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:41,280 Speaker 5: The NFL's concern with that game has nothing to do 1388 01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:44,679 Speaker 5: with whether or not Rashi Rice is allowed into Brazil. 1389 01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:48,040 Speaker 5: It has everything to do with whether or not YouTube 1390 01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:52,080 Speaker 5: or just you know, a standalone streaming game of that magnitude. 1391 01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,400 Speaker 5: The second day of the season holds up streaming. 1392 01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:00,519 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, certainly. All right, what do we have 1393 01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,519 Speaker 2: an hour forty away? So it's it's going to be 1394 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:03,840 Speaker 2: here before we know it. Let's get you out of 1395 01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:07,840 Speaker 2: here on this one. If you were to give your 1396 01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,479 Speaker 2: best guess, since you are the man who fostered this 1397 01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:15,880 Speaker 2: relationship and begin with, if you were to take your 1398 01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:19,559 Speaker 2: best guess at where the wedding takes place, that's a 1399 01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:20,000 Speaker 2: good one. 1400 01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:26,280 Speaker 4: What venue are you going? With the new dome in 1401 01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:26,960 Speaker 4: brook Park? 1402 01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,360 Speaker 2: Nine over? And with the concert? 1403 01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,240 Speaker 4: This is going to be a long, long betrothal, a 1404 01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:37,520 Speaker 4: long engagement, long courtship, a long courtship. 1405 01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,080 Speaker 5: I mean for for men out there, Listener'll. 1406 01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:43,120 Speaker 2: Be presided out there. List uncle baby Billy. 1407 01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:48,400 Speaker 5: You ever told you give a knee and say yes? 1408 01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,080 Speaker 5: But wait three years? I mean, how does that work? 1409 01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:52,160 Speaker 2: Listen? 1410 01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:54,840 Speaker 4: When they want to milk it, they want to the 1411 01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:55,360 Speaker 4: milk it. 1412 01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:57,120 Speaker 2: Out, all right. So I'm not going to hold you. 1413 01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:01,160 Speaker 2: I'm not going to hold you to locate, but I 1414 01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,200 Speaker 2: want you to guess your theme so you can do 1415 01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,040 Speaker 2: not in this country. I'm leaning where you are. 1416 01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:13,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, I say internationally and beach. However, if you look 1417 01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:18,320 Speaker 5: at the photo that they both posted to announce this post, yeah, 1418 01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:22,240 Speaker 5: there's it's wooded, there are flowers. 1419 01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,160 Speaker 2: Whatever it is, I. 1420 01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,360 Speaker 5: Guarantee you she's already figured it out and it has 1421 01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:30,920 Speaker 5: something to do with not this imminent album release, but 1422 01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:34,280 Speaker 5: the next one. If you know anything about Taylor Swift, 1423 01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:37,880 Speaker 5: she has planned every single detail. And I truly do 1424 01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:41,479 Speaker 5: mean this. They're like she plans stuff on her album 1425 01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:45,000 Speaker 5: release weeks and months in advance, and she drops these 1426 01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,479 Speaker 5: little hints. I mean something as subtle as like the 1427 01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:52,080 Speaker 5: color of her shoes or I'm not kidding, or the 1428 01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:55,479 Speaker 5: color of her sunglasses, or the hand on which she 1429 01:11:55,640 --> 01:12:00,160 Speaker 5: is wearing a certain ring or bracelet. There are hints dry. 1430 01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:06,200 Speaker 2: Months and months breakdowns, breakdown. Seriously, what did you what 1431 01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:06,840 Speaker 2: did you say? 1432 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:07,080 Speaker 4: One? 1433 01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,559 Speaker 2: Did you get to see this happening in the crystal 1434 01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:15,000 Speaker 2: clear Turkoise waters of the Maldives? You're going beach too. 1435 01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,680 Speaker 4: I like the uncle Baby Billy uncle Baby combined with 1436 01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:20,400 Speaker 4: Ashley Shaeffer BMW. 1437 01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,280 Speaker 2: Yeah wow, that'd be perfect and a little bit of 1438 01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:25,599 Speaker 2: match a little bit of the Ooh. Yeah, Travis Kelsey 1439 01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:29,559 Speaker 2: and Taylor Swift gonna tie the knot. Yeah. Biggest wedding 1440 01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:34,200 Speaker 2: since me and Miss Elizabeth at Summer Slim nineteen ninety one. Yeah. 1441 01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:39,600 Speaker 5: Oh man, it's gonna be in a castle. 1442 01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,479 Speaker 4: They're going quite frankly, after that breakdown you just did 1443 01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:45,120 Speaker 4: of Taylor Swift, maybe you need to get out. 1444 01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,760 Speaker 5: I lived in a Swifty home for a long long time. 1445 01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:53,320 Speaker 2: Okay, long, same long, right you got you got beach. 1446 01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,080 Speaker 2: You're going Maldives, Ceciliana. Did you ever give us an 1447 01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,800 Speaker 2: answer and just get all around? Baby Billy wants? I 1448 01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:02,559 Speaker 2: think I think it's going to your castle. Castle. I'm 1449 01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,519 Speaker 2: going maybe a castle, no one or the other. You 1450 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:05,479 Speaker 2: gotta pick one. 1451 01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:09,400 Speaker 5: There are European castles on the beach. Go to Normandy. 1452 01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:16,040 Speaker 2: Okay, they're not getting married in Normandy. You've seen you 1453 01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,519 Speaker 2: went to a good school like Lake com On. Maybe 1454 01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,719 Speaker 2: I want to I need an answer from you. Beach 1455 01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:24,760 Speaker 2: castle Church, What are you going? 1456 01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:26,679 Speaker 5: I say, castle on the beach. 1457 01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:30,040 Speaker 2: Oh, for God's sake, get out of here, get back 1458 01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,840 Speaker 2: to your beach. My castles. Come. 1459 01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:35,720 Speaker 5: What's wrong with that idea? 1460 01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:38,880 Speaker 2: Because you hedged you're hedging. 1461 01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,480 Speaker 5: Did you not watch Game of Thrones? They have castles 1462 01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:42,080 Speaker 5: on the beach. 1463 01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:50,720 Speaker 4: So she's getting married in to Bravnick maybe Nathan, Yeah. 1464 01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:52,840 Speaker 2: I would I gladly do that. We'll talk to you soon. 1465 01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:59,120 Speaker 2: We are gathered here today. You could sell it. There's 1466 01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:03,519 Speaker 2: a Southern Baptist Bible bonkers deep within you. Teens well 1467 01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:07,320 Speaker 2: that he's the only one could play kid. Couldn't do it, 1468 01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:09,639 Speaker 2: couldn't just got to do it. 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Oh? 1483 01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:13,919 Speaker 3: Just refreshing Twitter digging through the Taylor Swift stuff. 1484 01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,000 Speaker 2: Big news out of Cincinnati. 1485 01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:19,160 Speaker 4: The Bengals have informed rookie long snapper Will Wagner that 1486 01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:20,960 Speaker 4: he's won the job for twenty twenty five. 1487 01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:32,639 Speaker 2: I it's funny I say this morning, like these are 1488 01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:36,840 Speaker 2: people and and feelings and dreams that are hopes and 1489 01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:40,479 Speaker 2: dashed and all of it. But big picture NFL not 1490 01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,479 Speaker 2: necessarily for us with this team, because we have relationships 1491 01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:44,760 Speaker 2: with a lot of these guys who are being let 1492 01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,200 Speaker 2: go and so forth and so on. This is these 1493 01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:50,080 Speaker 2: are the This is about a very bottom of rosters. Yes, 1494 01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:52,760 Speaker 2: Like this is kind of like the one day that 1495 01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,400 Speaker 2: I because I think like I give a lot of 1496 01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:58,000 Speaker 2: hell sometimes to like Baseball Twitter, NBA Twitter for acting 1497 01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:02,840 Speaker 2: like every transaction is the herschel Walker trade, right, and 1498 01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:06,280 Speaker 2: we NFL riters go nuts over today and we parcel 1499 01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,919 Speaker 2: over it. But this is the very bottoms of rosters. 1500 01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:12,000 Speaker 2: Like there, it is rare that anything that happens today 1501 01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:16,640 Speaker 2: is going to impact what teams are okay. So I 1502 01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:17,320 Speaker 2: would add. 1503 01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:19,519 Speaker 4: This Caampay Buccaneers have set their initial fifty three man 1504 01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:21,000 Speaker 4: roster on it. 1505 01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,639 Speaker 2: Ours is coming in seventeen minutes. That real one. 1506 01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:27,080 Speaker 4: Seventeen seventeen would be perfect. Seventeen's perfect. 1507 01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:30,160 Speaker 2: Twenty seven did struggle with the math there? Oh yeah, 1508 01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:32,439 Speaker 2: twenty seven Eddie George. I looked, any George is not 1509 01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:36,280 Speaker 2: having that type of accountability on campus. Give me you 1510 01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:37,040 Speaker 2: you better be right. 1511 01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:40,080 Speaker 3: Remember, bring your a game when you're representing night Tomorrow night, 1512 01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:41,040 Speaker 3: I think it's tomorrow night. 1513 01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:43,719 Speaker 2: Thursday, isn't it? Or is it for? Is it tomorrow? 1514 01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,360 Speaker 2: It might be tomorrow Night's when they tape Saturday in life. 1515 01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:48,160 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that's right. 1516 01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,240 Speaker 3: Retire herbs going up into the Ring of Honor. That's 1517 01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:57,879 Speaker 3: a big day, big night, big big night on campus. 1518 01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:03,000 Speaker 2: That's fun. George's debut. The power coming in. He's on 1519 01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:06,400 Speaker 2: like the raging Cajun's are coming in, I believe. 1520 01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:06,559 Speaker 1: So. 1521 01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:10,040 Speaker 2: I saw he was like doing like a hype session 1522 01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,840 Speaker 2: on a stand in the middle of a street. They 1523 01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:14,959 Speaker 2: do it. They do it in a parade now and tailgate. 1524 01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,160 Speaker 2: I was like, he's killing it. We did not do that. 1525 01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:22,879 Speaker 2: He is the best He's the best former professional football 1526 01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:28,679 Speaker 2: player hype man that I've ever seen. He's so good 1527 01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,559 Speaker 2: on the mic. He's amazing on the mic. 1528 01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:33,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, the first time I ever got to meet him 1529 01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:37,519 Speaker 3: in person, we were doing pregame for an Ohio State 1530 01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:41,160 Speaker 3: Michigan game. Eddie Georgia's had just opened in Columbus. Yeah, 1531 01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:44,240 Speaker 3: I'm working up in Cleveland. I knew it had opened, 1532 01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,919 Speaker 3: called down there and said, hey, any chance the Cleveland 1533 01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,880 Speaker 3: ESPN affiliate could could do stuff from down there, And 1534 01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:54,800 Speaker 3: they're like, no one else has even called us. Yeah, yeah, 1535 01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,720 Speaker 3: we'll set you up in like the VIP room. I 1536 01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:01,320 Speaker 3: was like awesome, and they were all They helped me 1537 01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,760 Speaker 3: get the lines installed. You know, at that point, it 1538 01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,599 Speaker 3: was a lot. It was dn and might have had 1539 01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,400 Speaker 3: an AT and T tow truck towed away in the 1540 01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:12,599 Speaker 3: middle of it, even though it was being served. It 1541 01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:15,559 Speaker 3: was servicing the area. But on High Street. That's a 1542 01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:19,880 Speaker 3: big no no to park. We're doing the pregame show 1543 01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:23,519 Speaker 3: that Saturday morning. Yeah, and they opened the windows of 1544 01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:26,639 Speaker 3: like the VIP room, so like we're in there, we're 1545 01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:30,200 Speaker 3: doing the show. We got our speakers going everything. Eddie 1546 01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:33,400 Speaker 3: walks in. Now this is Ohio State, Michigan. It is 1547 01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:36,080 Speaker 3: Wall the Wall people. He's got the Ohio State marching 1548 01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:41,760 Speaker 3: band marching through the bar. It's pure insanity. It is 1549 01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:45,720 Speaker 3: Wall the Wall people. He comes in, introduces himself to 1550 01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:49,439 Speaker 3: every single person from the interns working like to our 1551 01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:53,559 Speaker 3: on air hosts. He goes, hand me a mic. Yeah 1552 01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:56,120 Speaker 3: you got a wireless I said, I do. He goes here, 1553 01:18:57,280 --> 01:19:02,160 Speaker 3: go walks out into the bar, stands up on the bar, yeah, 1554 01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:07,280 Speaker 3: and goes everybody gets a shot. It's ten ten in 1555 01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:11,879 Speaker 3: the morning and Michigan still sucks and the place went berserk. 1556 01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:16,400 Speaker 3: That's awesome and that's perfect. That's Eddie George. And they 1557 01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:19,160 Speaker 3: laid out the red carpet like the tab never came. 1558 01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:21,479 Speaker 3: I was like, what do we owe? Like yeah, and 1559 01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:22,920 Speaker 3: they're like, nope, Eddie's. 1560 01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:28,320 Speaker 2: Got it on it. It's been on Broadway Eddie. 1561 01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:32,080 Speaker 4: I mean like, he's got a great presence the Combine 1562 01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:32,880 Speaker 4: this year. 1563 01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:36,439 Speaker 2: Great presence. He is. I still think this and I 1564 01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:39,479 Speaker 2: he's one of the more decorated players to ever play there. 1565 01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:42,680 Speaker 2: He is the answer though to when even still and 1566 01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,439 Speaker 2: he didn't win a national title, won the Heisman, but 1567 01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:47,439 Speaker 2: when he walks in a room it's he's the one 1568 01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:51,240 Speaker 2: guy down there that it stops, just stops when he 1569 01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:55,639 Speaker 2: walks in. There's such a charisma to him, such a charisma. Yeah, 1570 01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:58,599 Speaker 2: and he's big. I mean he's big dude, big dude, 1571 01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,320 Speaker 2: great shape. It still amost like he could play. Oh 1572 01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:03,519 Speaker 2: yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, he's cool. He's like 1573 01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,400 Speaker 2: on the in the Calvin Johnson School. He is. Yes, 1574 01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:07,200 Speaker 2: it is wild though. 1575 01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,040 Speaker 4: When you go back and like look at his career numbers, 1576 01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:11,639 Speaker 4: like how quickly the physicality kind of took a toll 1577 01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:13,679 Speaker 4: on his yards per carry. 1578 01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:15,639 Speaker 2: That's what I always say when I think about Derrick 1579 01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:18,000 Speaker 2: Henry and the fact that he had nineteen hundred yards 1580 01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:19,960 Speaker 2: last year at that age, six yards of carry. It's 1581 01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:21,960 Speaker 2: crazy that he was still able to do it. Yeah, 1582 01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:22,800 Speaker 2: Eddie took a beating. 1583 01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:25,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, me and me and asked other than we have 1584 01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:27,360 Speaker 4: like our team is all rookies and then dudes that 1585 01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:32,120 Speaker 4: were really good in like seventeen, We got like DeVante Adams, Kelsey, 1586 01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:33,960 Speaker 4: Derrick Henry. 1587 01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:38,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, Lamar, I probably had a bunch of draft I've 1588 01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:40,599 Speaker 2: ever had in my life. We got an night from CB. 1589 01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:42,519 Speaker 2: I guarantee I got an from you, which makes me 1590 01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:45,080 Speaker 2: sometimes I think that's good. Yeah, that's good. I've never 1591 01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,639 Speaker 2: had it to where my first I picked nine, which 1592 01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:49,120 Speaker 2: I think is the worst place you can pick in 1593 01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:51,679 Speaker 2: a ten person draft because you don't even control the comeback. 1594 01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,920 Speaker 2: It likes to be tenth, ten at least. Fine, give 1595 01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,639 Speaker 2: me ten, eleven. I know now I can strategize nine. 1596 01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:58,720 Speaker 2: You got to rely on you got eight. You got 1597 01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,080 Speaker 2: to worry about ten and before you pick again, and 1598 01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,400 Speaker 2: then it's forever. Yeah, that's right to get back in there. Yeah, 1599 01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:06,200 Speaker 2: And my first three picks, the way I was was 1600 01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:08,960 Speaker 2: thinking about building the team were picked in front of 1601 01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:12,519 Speaker 2: me in all three instances, and so then I had 1602 01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:15,599 Speaker 2: to like scramble and I don't even know who ended 1603 01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:16,760 Speaker 2: up with I was doing it. 1604 01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:17,479 Speaker 5: I don't know. 1605 01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:20,360 Speaker 4: It's not We've got Luther Burden, so well we're god 1606 01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:22,960 Speaker 4: they got Then we also drafted Colston Loveland. 1607 01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:28,280 Speaker 2: I'm like a secret Michigan fans. I don't know, it 1608 01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:30,120 Speaker 2: feels that way. But also at the same time, you 1609 01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,920 Speaker 2: know he's a known litterer. They've got known literary, They've got. 1610 01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:35,200 Speaker 4: DJ Moore, they roma Dunze in the first round the 1611 01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:38,639 Speaker 4: year before. Yeah, they got running backs, like I mean 1612 01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:41,160 Speaker 4: weapons all over the place. When you draft Loveland, I 1613 01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:42,320 Speaker 4: think that early he's gonna. 1614 01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:45,800 Speaker 2: Get He's gonna in the mix, all right. 1615 01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:49,599 Speaker 3: So BG place Thursday at six, I thought, yeah, Thursday, 1616 01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:50,280 Speaker 3: So there you go. 1617 01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:52,960 Speaker 2: By the way, where's Valley four jet. 1618 01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:54,479 Speaker 4: I'm looking at the high school game for a Week 1619 01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:58,439 Speaker 4: for week two right here in and Parma. 1620 01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:05,840 Speaker 2: Great logoma about Normandy, Normandy and Valley Forge. I believe 1621 01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:15,519 Speaker 2: the Invaders. I know that that's correct. Nor My uh 1622 01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:22,000 Speaker 2: my wife's parents went to, uh Valley Forge and there 1623 01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,200 Speaker 2: was a time I think it was the biggest high 1624 01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:28,400 Speaker 2: school in the state. Logo it's incredible. Yeah, that's awesome, 1625 01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:30,800 Speaker 2: but I think it was. There was a time years 1626 01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:32,599 Speaker 2: ago that it was the biggest high school in the state. 1627 01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:35,920 Speaker 2: Like massive classes, like a thousand kids of class. That's 1628 01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:38,160 Speaker 2: like logans like James logan. Yeah. Massive. 1629 01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,840 Speaker 4: So the Game of the Week nominees this week Bria 1630 01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:44,000 Speaker 4: Midpark against Euclid Lutheran West versus Aurora. 1631 01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:46,559 Speaker 2: Aurora's got a good logo too. What is that guy. 1632 01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:48,280 Speaker 5: He is? 1633 01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:50,680 Speaker 2: Well, it turns out he only has green hair, don't know. 1634 01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:53,439 Speaker 2: The little wizard or a joker type guy. Yeah, I 1635 01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:53,760 Speaker 2: like him. 1636 01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:56,479 Speaker 4: Luther and West has a pretty strong steed is its logo. 1637 01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:58,720 Speaker 3: By the way, I'll just knock out the live read 1638 01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:01,240 Speaker 3: then for you. High School Game of the Week, presented 1639 01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:05,880 Speaker 3: by Ohio Cat showcases top matchups and rising stars across 1640 01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:09,120 Speaker 3: Northeast high Each week, fans can vote the game they 1641 01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:12,639 Speaker 3: want to see. The winning team earns three thousand dollars 1642 01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:18,080 Speaker 3: in funding, plus spotlight coverage on Brown's social media, and 1643 01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:20,759 Speaker 3: two of the three panelists are on this radio show. 1644 01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:26,280 Speaker 2: Well high school Nate, listen, you know it's a lot. 1645 01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:27,160 Speaker 2: They're asking me to go. 1646 01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:30,200 Speaker 4: It's like, okay, I can't wait. Make you in the 1647 01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:32,680 Speaker 4: National Football League. Now we got to be college football, Nate. 1648 01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:34,559 Speaker 2: Now you got to be high school football, Nate. It's 1649 01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:37,960 Speaker 2: a lot going on pretty soon, Pop Warnernate. Oh, before 1650 01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:40,160 Speaker 2: you know it, wait till I give you that playbook 1651 01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:43,080 Speaker 2: with my wristband system. It's going to change your life. 1652 01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:45,360 Speaker 2: The wristband system. A little zos is going to be 1653 01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:50,080 Speaker 2: a flag football quarterback. That's his that's his path, and 1654 01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:53,960 Speaker 2: a golfer. We're going we're not jeopardizing this golf career. Well, 1655 01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,640 Speaker 2: he's going to play hoops. I guess he's able to 1656 01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:00,559 Speaker 2: across you gotta lot going on. 1657 01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:05,479 Speaker 4: I'm just so I feel like today so much more 1658 01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:07,880 Speaker 4: ill equipped to get him like where he needs to 1659 01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:08,320 Speaker 4: be in hoops. 1660 01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:11,160 Speaker 2: And I was fifteen years ago. You're not. Yeah. Yeah, 1661 01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,080 Speaker 2: if you can shoot, you can play. I used to run. 1662 01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:15,920 Speaker 2: I used to be I would be playing in a 1663 01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:18,839 Speaker 2: league fifteen years ago. It doesn't matter. The game's not scoring. 1664 01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:21,519 Speaker 2: But I'm not any I'm not. I don't consider myself 1665 01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:24,559 Speaker 2: competent right now as a basketball player. It doesn't matter. 1666 01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,639 Speaker 2: But you can teach what you know. Sure, yeah, score 1667 01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:28,840 Speaker 2: the basketball. I get all the I get all the 1668 01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:30,360 Speaker 2: playbooks for you. You're gonna be said, get you a 1669 01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:32,960 Speaker 2: little offense, run a few inbound plays. I'll take care 1670 01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:34,559 Speaker 2: of your buddy. I'll save it all for you. It's 1671 01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:39,200 Speaker 2: gonna be like Celine Dion. That's right, you're gonna bring 1672 01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:42,680 Speaker 2: me in. I'm just going to tell him, would be unbelievable. 1673 01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:44,320 Speaker 5: Oh man, Yeah, him coming in. 1674 01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:48,280 Speaker 2: You're gonna like the physicality on the line. You guys, 1675 01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:54,240 Speaker 2: coach the first practice, a little coaching bike shorts. Yeah, yeah, 1676 01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:55,080 Speaker 2: that's what I want. 1677 01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:59,320 Speaker 4: Shorts, Yeah, shorts, that's what we wore my freshman year 1678 01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:01,559 Speaker 4: in high school. Are so ended, they will look up 1679 01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:02,800 Speaker 4: an old Kelly. 1680 01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:09,680 Speaker 2: Our practices are not designed for your pleasure. Boys. Yeah, 1681 01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,000 Speaker 2: be funny if you became everything that you hated. If 1682 01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:13,920 Speaker 2: like your first practice with little guys, you were like, 1683 01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:16,240 Speaker 2: put the balls down, you're not touching the ball today. 1684 01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:20,439 Speaker 2: Getting defensive STOTL is not gonna play anything. First, I've 1685 01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:23,120 Speaker 2: already done the right. 1686 01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:26,640 Speaker 4: Now I jump in with already buckets, and we go 1687 01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:29,600 Speaker 4: on a tear on a tear, and what do we 1688 01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:31,760 Speaker 4: focus on. Let's let's out, let's score the basketball. We 1689 01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,599 Speaker 4: played good defense. I'm a proponent of tenacious D. 1690 01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:37,799 Speaker 2: But just as long as you're not the one playing. 1691 01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:45,479 Speaker 4: Listen, when it was time to play the D, I 1692 01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:46,639 Speaker 4: played the D locked in. 1693 01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:49,880 Speaker 2: Correct. 1694 01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:55,000 Speaker 4: Imagine my style of defense. Here's a perfect analogy. My 1695 01:25:55,200 --> 01:26:01,479 Speaker 4: game was perfectly suited for late like nine era. Yeah, 1696 01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:06,040 Speaker 4: NBA All Star Games. First three quarters, we're just out 1697 01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:08,960 Speaker 4: there having fun scoring Like you score, I score, I'll 1698 01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:09,840 Speaker 4: probably outscore you. 1699 01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:10,160 Speaker 2: Great. 1700 01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:13,240 Speaker 4: But then like fourth core, Okay, now we'll like play defense. 1701 01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:18,120 Speaker 2: It strikes me as that unless it's not close, then 1702 01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:21,000 Speaker 2: then we're not playing any defense. You kind of feel 1703 01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:24,000 Speaker 2: like a j. R. Smith at the peak of his powers. 1704 01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:28,160 Speaker 2: I had a better floor game than that. 1705 01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:30,400 Speaker 4: Like I did more rebounding and passing, like assist, Like 1706 01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:31,479 Speaker 4: I was a good I would get a lot of 1707 01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:32,160 Speaker 4: cis because I was. 1708 01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:34,280 Speaker 2: I just understood where to pass. Oh yeah, so I 1709 01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:37,240 Speaker 2: wasn't just he had before he got here. Like in Denver, 1710 01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:38,560 Speaker 2: he had a pretty good full floor. You had a 1711 01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:40,000 Speaker 2: good floor game. I'm fine, I'll take it. I love 1712 01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:41,519 Speaker 2: that any good golfer. 1713 01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:45,840 Speaker 4: Great similarities continue. I've never gone the wrong way on 1714 01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:46,719 Speaker 4: the basketball court. 1715 01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:52,760 Speaker 3: There no what are we doing. I've always known my 1716 01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:53,719 Speaker 3: spatial awareness. 1717 01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:54,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've always had that. 1718 01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:57,920 Speaker 3: We can say this for tomorrow. We could do so 1719 01:26:58,000 --> 01:26:59,600 Speaker 3: much more to come in the hopes that maybe the 1720 01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:01,120 Speaker 3: schedule or maybe the Rocks. 1721 01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:04,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope that it does. I hope you you know, 1722 01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:07,120 Speaker 2: hope against hope. I guess so much more to common. 1723 01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:09,639 Speaker 2: Potentially there could be You listen to Cleveland Browns Daily. 1724 01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:12,120 Speaker 2: It's presented by bally Bet, official sportsmanning partner Your Cleveland 1725 01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:13,679 Speaker 2: Browns on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1726 01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:25,080 Speaker 1: You're listening to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland, 1727 01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:28,679 Speaker 1: presented by bally Bet sports Book, an official sports betting 1728 01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:32,160 Speaker 1: partner of your Cleveland Browns, Please bet responsibly. 1729 01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:41,320 Speaker 2: Paul, Now, why two k? What cost of the wind? 1730 01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:46,760 Speaker 2: Dusted Daniels? Well, what's his next? How do you follow that? 1731 01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:53,200 Speaker 2: How do you follow Uncle Baby Billy lead and White 1732 01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:56,840 Speaker 2: Lotus now is like a guy who's on national ads 1733 01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:59,719 Speaker 2: left and right. He does Walmart ads. Now, he's a legend. 1734 01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:01,720 Speaker 2: I mean, this is like a twenty year burn. I 1735 01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:05,240 Speaker 2: remember him on the Shield twenty five years ago. Yeah, 1736 01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:10,000 Speaker 2: and then he was unbelievable, as boyd unjustified, unbelievable. Ugh, yes, 1737 01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:13,479 Speaker 2: and so here you go, here you go. It's interesting 1738 01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:16,679 Speaker 2: there has been very little news during the now hour 1739 01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:19,000 Speaker 2: and fifty minutes that we've been on the show. Nothing 1740 01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:22,439 Speaker 2: in fact from the Browns perspective. Jordan Schultz with this 1741 01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:25,960 Speaker 2: Spencer Rattler the starting quarterback down in New Orleans. So 1742 01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:28,960 Speaker 2: they go Rattler and then rookie Tyler Schuck behind him. 1743 01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:32,000 Speaker 2: That is not good news for Tyler Shuck. That appears 1744 01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:34,240 Speaker 2: to me to be a team that is going to 1745 01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:37,559 Speaker 2: make dang sure that they're picking number one. 1746 01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:41,439 Speaker 3: Tayson Hill opening on pup. Go ahead and stay there, son, 1747 01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:42,800 Speaker 3: we got some tanking to do. 1748 01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:46,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. To me, you just look at their setup, the roster, 1749 01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:48,360 Speaker 2: all of it. It feels like they are going to 1750 01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:51,519 Speaker 2: be in a position to be at the bottom. And look, 1751 01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:55,639 Speaker 2: you have two. You have a quarterback draft next year 1752 01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:59,080 Speaker 2: that could have upwards of five or six first rounders 1753 01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:03,200 Speaker 2: in it. Yep, I don't think that that's overestimating. And 1754 01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:07,160 Speaker 2: if Arch does it all and wins it all and 1755 01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:09,960 Speaker 2: something changes for him, then you would have the number 1756 01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:13,200 Speaker 2: one pick in that draft. Also that right now is 1757 01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:15,519 Speaker 2: not part of that list of five or six. But 1758 01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:20,720 Speaker 2: you've got Club Nick Aller, Sellers, nuss Meyer. I mean 1759 01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:25,120 Speaker 2: those four for sure, Sus for Nus. Those guys are 1760 01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:27,479 Speaker 2: all going to be in the mix, and there will 1761 01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:29,840 Speaker 2: be more. There's going to be more who are added 1762 01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:33,360 Speaker 2: to it. So yeah, it's a very good class. 1763 01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:36,200 Speaker 3: This is your reminder that Spencer Rattler is younger than 1764 01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:36,880 Speaker 3: Tyler Schuck. 1765 01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:43,559 Speaker 2: Yeah he was. I didn't watch Quarterback on or whatever 1766 01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:45,719 Speaker 2: it was that it was. It was an Amazon series, 1767 01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:49,880 Speaker 2: I think. And anytime I speak of Spencer Rattler or 1768 01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:54,200 Speaker 2: Tate Martel who went to Ohio State and I used 1769 01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:55,760 Speaker 2: to a little bit more often, don't mention either one 1770 01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:58,840 Speaker 2: of their names now anymore. But I'm quickly reminded by 1771 01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:01,000 Speaker 2: so many people that both of them came across as 1772 01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,760 Speaker 2: like complete jerks in this docu series when they were 1773 01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:07,640 Speaker 2: high school. I remember saying that, like like real, yeah, 1774 01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:10,400 Speaker 2: and I never watched it, so I don't I don't know, 1775 01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:13,639 Speaker 2: but they like went behind the scenes with these high 1776 01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:16,400 Speaker 2: school kids and that they were they were a tough act, uh, 1777 01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:19,639 Speaker 2: to say the least. So all the quarterbacks are sorted. 1778 01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:23,559 Speaker 2: That was the last one we were waiting on. There 1779 01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:26,760 Speaker 2: we go a little bit of a surprise. We'll see, 1780 01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:32,360 Speaker 2: Uh are we trying to make a move Hunter Renfro 1781 01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:33,560 Speaker 2: cut by Carolina. 1782 01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:36,799 Speaker 4: It feels like everybody's trying to make a move Hunter Renfro. Unfortunately, 1783 01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:39,120 Speaker 4: it just hasn't been. It's been a while. It's been 1784 01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:39,519 Speaker 4: a while. 1785 01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:43,400 Speaker 2: He would he caught the pass from Deshaun that won 1786 01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:46,080 Speaker 2: the Natty. Won the Natty Clemson, that's. 1787 01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:51,360 Speaker 4: Right, their first title those many years again won a couple. 1788 01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:55,360 Speaker 2: Years later with Trevor. Yeah. Yeah, so they there you go, 1789 01:30:56,200 --> 01:31:01,800 Speaker 2: all right, kids, Uh hour and eight left to don't 1790 01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:05,680 Speaker 2: have it into that? Yeah, there you go. Keep it 1791 01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:07,080 Speaker 2: here at the next level. They're going to take you 1792 01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:09,240 Speaker 2: through all of it. We are back tomorrow. Thanks for 1793 01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:11,679 Speaker 2: listening about it, Cleveland Rods Daily, eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1794 01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:15,519 Speaker 1: You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of 1795 01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:18,800 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, and eight fifty ESPN Cleveland