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Speaker 1: Michael Bumps and Paul Moyer on Hawks Live. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for joining us tonight. Moya, how you doing, man, I'm

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Speaker 1: doing well. It's it's been a long week. Anytime coming

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Speaker 1: off a loss, it takes a while to get the

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a beautiful weekend. And see it's got

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Speaker 1: another tough one. I know, everybody just letting you know.

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Speaker 1: Minnesota is owing to both their losses on the road

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Speaker 1: total of four points. Yep. So before we get on Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: we still have to digest and talk about this loss.

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Speaker 1: Real question, let's just go on to minute. We can't.

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Speaker 1: We can't do that, Moyer. We have we have to

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Speaker 1: live in the president. And now now they lost to

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Speaker 1: the Titans thirty three to thirty in overtime, and it

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Speaker 1: was really a tell of two halves, right, the first

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Speaker 1: half is twenty forty nine. You're feeling good. I saw

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Speaker 1: hyped up going into halftime, and then you come out

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Speaker 1: in the second half and the Titans really dominated. They

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Speaker 1: dominated the time of possession. They put together long drives.

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Speaker 1: Dereck Henry had a huge play of sixty yard touchdown

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Speaker 1: know right now that this Tennessee Titans team really controlled

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Speaker 1: first half. It was boom boom, boom boom, big plays

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Speaker 1: game now. Yeah. I remember us doing a halftime you know, updates,

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Speaker 1: and we were up twenty four tonight. So I felt

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Speaker 1: good with the score, but Tennessee was getting the ball.

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Speaker 1: We weren't. But I didn't feel good with how we

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Speaker 1: gonna correct all this too, And we went back through

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Speaker 1: the film and I go, oh my god, they have

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Speaker 1: so much to correct. Monday was probably an interesting meeting

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Speaker 1: day calling guys out. And what I mean by cleaning

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Speaker 1: it's only two scores there, you know, I mean, particularly

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Speaker 1: the time of possession was off the charts still in

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Speaker 1: the first half for Tennessee, it's two games in a row,

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Speaker 1: and so for me, the Seahawks, we're just not They

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Speaker 1: weren't sustaining enough drives. I really did think defensively, though,

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Speaker 1: second half. Quite the opposite, quite the opposite second half.

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Speaker 1: Chris Carson also didn't touch the football as much. He

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Speaker 1: did have two touchdowns in the first half, but that

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Speaker 1: that doesn't really reflect how he played. Are the opportunities

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Speaker 1: that he got a positive Tyler Lockett had another great

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Speaker 1: game over one hundred and seventy yards, two touchdowns. Excuse me,

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Speaker 1: just one touchdown, but a long touchdown sixty nine yards,

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Speaker 1: look at the three passing plays that the Hawks came

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Speaker 1: on a couple of shows and are always asking me

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Speaker 1: That was the team, ail man. I mean the offense

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Speaker 1: at times. The offense gave up now excuse me, defense

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Speaker 1: They gave the offense the ball. So I cannot play

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Speaker 1: then the one where we got our opening field goal.

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Speaker 1: There's so many little plays in this game. And that's

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Speaker 1: going the a tension to detail the silliness. After the game,

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Speaker 1: The beauty is win. Clean all that up that the

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Speaker 1: I think the frustration is we gotta start putting teams away.

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Speaker 1: forgot what year was any quarterback who's had a QBR

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Speaker 1: They've they've had it. We kind of had their number,

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Speaker 1: So there's some positives there. But you mentioned some of

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Speaker 1: second week in a row they're going up against a

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Speaker 1: got a really good football team. Yes, we just didn't

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Speaker 1: You have to learn from your mistakes. That's why you

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Speaker 1: look at film, critique yourself. Your coaches are going to

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Speaker 1: I am doing good man. I'm excited for this game.

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Speaker 1: recruiting process go for you. I would in cool, you know, um,

428
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Speaker 1: you know, you know, growing up you kind of always

429
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,160
Speaker 1: think about going there. But you know I worked out

430
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Speaker 1: from that, I'm going to Texas Tech, and uh, you know,

431
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,160
Speaker 1: kind of the best decision that happened for me. You know,

432
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 1: growing up, growing up down the street, you know, you're

433
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,959
Speaker 1: all kind of excusing yourself going to that other school,

434
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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I was just happy.

435
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 1: Am I going to Texas? Take now, Karen, You've had

436
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,959
Speaker 1: a nice journey in the NFL. You moved on from

437
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 1: Dallas in twenty eighteen, and you have a breakout season

438
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:22,919
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. But with the forty nine ers, what happened,

439
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 1: Like what clicked in your game? Was it something that

440
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 1: you've always had in you that you're just waiting to

441
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,160
Speaker 1: really show the world what clicked with you to allow

442
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 1: you to play so greatly. The NFL is full of

443
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,439
Speaker 1: great players, man, It's just a lot of times it

444
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,920
Speaker 1: comes down an opportunity. When you get the opportunity to play,

445
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 1: then you've got to give a jaw. You know, everyone

446
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 1: every team gots talent. You know, when you got opportunities,

447
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 1: you got to show your stuff. And I got an

448
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 1: opportunity to play. You know that they had some guys

449
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 1: go down and I distrust them to the starting lineup,

450
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 1: and I just I was ready for that moment. I

451
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 1: think everybody thought the forty nine ers are going to

452
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 1: resign you. Um, and there are some things that went

453
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 1: down there. How did you end up being a Seahawk?

454
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,880
Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of stories on that one. Um.

455
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 1: You know, it's a competitive game, and you know teams

456
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 1: are always trying to make themselves better in that kind

457
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 1: of game. Seattle came calling. You know, you know, I

458
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:19,959
Speaker 1: kind of you kind of thought you were gonna end

459
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 1: up somewhere to bull the business, you never know for

460
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 1: sure where you're gonna end up, especially free agency, and

461
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 1: Seattle came calling. It seemed like a perfect fifth feeling.

462
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 1: I care, you guys took a tough loss to the Titans,

463
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 1: a game that I know you guys felt like you

464
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: could have won. What's the vibe like in v mag?

465
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 1: What's the approach this week? Next week? You know, uh,

466
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,400
Speaker 1: we watched the tape, you know, you know, as a group,

467
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 1: we kind of felt like we gonna let one get away,

468
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 1: but then finish your game strong. But uh, we're really

469
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Speaker 1: focused on this week. We really want to you know,

470
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 1: get back on track. Game. It's played four quarters, you know,

471
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 1: we you know, we played a good half last week,

472
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 1: but he just didn't finish the game. So as we

473
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Speaker 1: get focused on just playing for four quarters and as

474
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Speaker 1: finish now, I will win. I know last week obviously

475
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 1: it didn't go the way you guys wanted to. But

476
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: what was it like finally playing in front of the

477
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 1: twelve at Looming Field that you know that maybe even

478
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: compared a little to where San Francisco versus the Seahawks

479
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 1: with a home crowd. You know, I know it's hard

480
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: for the offense to communicate when you know the crowd

481
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 1: is as loud as it is, But for defensive player,

482
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 1: it was new for me. I couldn't hear my players

483
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: next to me, I couldn't hear Bobby talking, I couldn't

484
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 1: hear those things. So I was the first time for

485
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: me out there and really hearing the twelves like that,

486
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,959
Speaker 1: And man, it was electric out there. Man, I couldn't.

487
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: I couldn't hear I couldn't hear the person next to

488
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 1: me out there. So that's you know, you can't you

489
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: can't really prepare for it. You just gotta get into it,

490
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: you know. I carry I'm a I'm a callie kid.

491
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Speaker 1: Like I mentioned, I grew up watching Kobe Bryant. My

492
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: second son, his name is Kobe Bryant. Now I see

493
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: that Kobe reached out to you after your injury. Man,

494
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 1: what was that like? Having conversations with Kobe? Man, he

495
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: just did the snake He knows you, But man, it

496
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: made my whole day. I didn't you know, I was

497
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 1: kind of down that day and just kind of you know,

498
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: I guess you was saying my feelings a little bit.

499
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 1: So when he reached out to me and I got

500
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 1: to tell you to put a little pets of my step,

501
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: it just kind of you know, you know, you're somebody

502
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: you look up to and somebody you watch all the

503
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: time reach out to you like that, man, just you

504
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: can't do remember, put a little fire under you. Well,

505
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Speaker 1: I'm assuming that you came off an achilles injury. He

506
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 1: had had an achilles injury, so how was how did

507
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Speaker 1: he call you. How was that whole thing set up? Well,

508
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 1: I know he wasn't a car I really just I

509
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: tweeted like I'm gonna, you know, channel my mama and

510
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: my mama mentality and he uh and he just reached

511
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Speaker 1: out and quoted to tweeting and put the snake emoji.

512
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: I never talked to him anything like that, but the

513
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: fin reaching out like that, man, it did a lot

514
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Speaker 1: for me. Just one little, one little emoji is my

515
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: whole day. Man. I love it. You better, you better

516
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: a screen shot and kept that one because that's a

517
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Speaker 1: that's press. Yeah, hey, carry what's the defensive room? Like?

518
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: You know, every room had the personalities the dbs, I

519
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: got more you here those dbs or the cockiest dudes

520
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: on the team. It's just the best look. They say.

521
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 1: The receivers are diva. So what's that d line room? Like? Oh? Man,

522
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: I feel like we a bunch of rooms for the

523
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: jokes is like we you know, you know, of course

524
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: we know when the time to you see, but uh,

525
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: and we're always cracking on each other. We're always pushing

526
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: each other. Man. It's a great group. You know, we

527
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,719
Speaker 1: want to see each other see, but we're constantly cracking

528
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: on each other. You can constantly trying to push each

529
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: other on the field. So I gotta say, I gotta

530
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: say you probably got the fun of each room out

531
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: of everybody we're visiting with Carrie Hider. Um, I'm gonna

532
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: take in a little different direction. You are a very

533
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 1: good athlete, but as you know, you've got another athlete

534
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: in the household and your wife, Jasmine, who was the

535
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: Pac ten actually Pack twelve for summery. I read Pack ten,

536
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: but Pac twelve four hurdler. Um? What what? How did

537
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: you guys meet? She went to my school, Arizona State,

538
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 1: so I'm a son devil, so I've got a lot

539
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 1: of love for her there. But uh cheron, how you

540
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: guys met? Oh? My senior year in college, she was

541
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Speaker 1: she was helping out with the track team. You know,

542
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: she was running profession the leaves and her coach that

543
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: recruited herd the Arizona State was actually coaching the take.

544
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 1: So when she when she went to tag, she moved

545
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 1: to Lovely and with training for the Farder hurdles. And

546
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: I was happing to run into it. You know, I

547
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 1: run into it as all she wrote. You know, I

548
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: gotta I know you've been asked us a million times,

549
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 1: but I gotta ask, can you beat her? Can you

550
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: beat her in a race between me and you? Yeah,

551
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: you know, I think, I think I can get it,

552
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: but I ain't gonna never have it on tape. I

553
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: can keep talking, I keep talking, ain't gonna never actually

554
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: race it. But that means she's not in the room

555
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: next year. So you can say, you can say those things.

556
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: And you gotta you gotta daughters or about six years

557
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: old as well. And I know that's got to keep

558
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: you really preoccupied on your free time. Oh yeah, man,

559
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 1: when I'm not playing football, I'm my dad dude, just

560
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: trying to, you know, do my part. You know, during

561
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: the season, it's hard to get to the time you

562
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: want to get in. So I try to maximize my

563
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 1: time and hold it. Try some time my father when

564
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: I worked in I feel you, man, you need a

565
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: woman to hold you down most definitely. Now let's talk

566
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: about these Vikings real quick. Man. When when you look

567
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: at this film, what do you see in the Minnesota

568
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: Vikings physical bunch? You know, obviously Dalvincase is a great

569
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: running back, and uh, it's gonna take a team effort.

570
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: You know, we just can't you know, use a lot

571
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: like Garek Henry in a lot of ways where he

572
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: can you know, he can hit the home run ball

573
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: and again make a lot of plays. So a lot

574
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,479
Speaker 1: of the offense once to them. So we just you know,

575
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a group effort. You know, we had

576
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: to stop to run and Russian coverage got to work together.

577
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: You know. I know this kind of sounds like something

578
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: people say every week, but you know that's the basis

579
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: of defense. You gotta stop to run and we gotta

580
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: get out to the quarterback whenever we can. Well, you

581
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: got you again. Last week wasn't how you wanted it? Um,

582
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: what do is tell the truth? Monday? Like? And then

583
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: this is your first year there, supposedly it's a it's

584
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: a very open and let's be honest with each other. Yeah,

585
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: what what came out of Monday's meeting for you? Because

586
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: you guys are too talented defensively, you know to have

587
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: two hundred yards on you. Well, we just you know,

588
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: we just gotta do better a fenision four quarters. You know,

589
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: we teams are too good in this league for us

590
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: to beat ourselves. So there's an opportunity for us to

591
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: make the play or not do something to cause something negatives.

592
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta do it because you know, you

593
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: let it's a good team like that standing too long

594
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: and we can make some minimal mistakes, they're gonna capitalize

595
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: on it. Looking at the stills in the mirror and

596
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: letting us know that you know, like, hey, we played.

597
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: We played a decent game, but we hat to play

598
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: full quarters. We came to give games away like that,

599
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: especially plead. That's a great thing about the NFL carry

600
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: you always bounce back the following a week. Man. We

601
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: expect you guys to do that. We appreciate you taking

602
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: time out of your day. Thank the wife, kiss the

603
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: baby girl for us. Man, you have a good night.

604
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: Thank you man, Thanks for having me on. You have

605
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: a good night. All right. That was Carrie Hireder. When

606
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: we return, we're gonna talk to the professor. I'm gonna

607
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: ask him about this Thursday night football game. Are the

608
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: Hawks still continues? Moria have some question for him as well.

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Speaker 1: That's next right here on Hawks Live. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: Hawks Live. It is seven forty five. That means we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk to the professor John Klain John, no funk

612
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: music for you today, But we know what time it is.

613
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: Oh no, absolutely, time to get into the funk, time

614
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: to get into it all right, John, are you watching

615
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: this Thursday night football game? Unfortunately, I'm looking at Sam

616
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: Donald and he is twenty to twenty nine, twenty sixty

617
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: two yards. Do you think this guy can resurrect his

618
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: career so early, I guess in his career and really

619
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: have a good a good career overall, a good career.

620
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna have a great career.

621
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Speaker 1: I don't think he's being the third pick in the draft.

622
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: I mean because again, I mean, you can see some

623
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: inconsistencies in his game, but again I think you can

624
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: see that, you know, he's certainly better now in Carol

625
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: Lineman than he was with Adam Gays in the New

626
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: York Jets. I mean, he's you know, you can see

627
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: his running ability. It's a shame that that holding penalty

628
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: by number seventy five took away the thirty three yard

629
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: run because that would have helped. But again, it's like

630
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: you're playing the Houston Texans team and I think I

631
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: had to just walk down before they made the field goal, right,

632
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: so it's seventeen. Yeah, got seventeen seventeen six. So it's like,

633
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: you know, at least they were able to you know,

634
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: they're not scoring enough points against a bad Houston team

635
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: that basically has absolutely and totally no offense. With that

636
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: being said, though, John, I mean, they're about to go

637
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: three and oh Carolina. Yeah, and they did be they

638
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: blew out in New Orleans, who blew out you know,

639
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: Green Bay? I mean, again, another weird year of NFL football.

640
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: It's you know, what have you done for me lately?

641
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: But you know, would that be the surprise team so

642
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: far this year? If they go three and oh? I

643
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: had to do a thing for the Washington Post this

644
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: year or this last week. We had to rate to

645
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: seven and oh teams and I rated them number seven,

646
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: and I said that they had a chance to be

647
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: one of the surprise teams in the league. Now I

648
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: think we need to see more. In fact, I even

649
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: suggested that, uh, you know, I if if they won,

650
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: and I don't know, I might need to have another

651
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: week just to make sure. But it's like I actually

652
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: suggested that, you know, I do a story next week

653
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: for the Post with Scott Fitter on uh just fitter

654
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: to basically talk about where this team is because you know,

655
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: darnold of all the quarterback acquisitions and now we're up

656
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: to what fourteen new quarterbacks in the league looks to

657
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: be among the best, and that looks good. And then

658
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: you can see that their Phil Snow is just amazing

659
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: the blitz packages and everything else. He's their defensive coordinator.

660
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: Nobody knows who he is, but Phil Snows and one

661
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: is designing these blitz packages and they're much better on offense.

662
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: And so it's like, uh, you know, it's not maybe

663
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: showing tonight, but again, I like this team, all right, John,

664
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: I must shipped over to the Seattle Seahawks. Tyler Lockett

665
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: is having a great year. Twelve receptions, twenty seventy yards,

666
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: three touchdowns. I know it's early, but do you think

667
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: that he can keep this pace up and be the

668
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: seahawks number one receiver throughout the year. I wouldn't. I

669
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: wouldn't think not. I mean again, you know, technically you

670
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: can always say, even though Metcalf has had big numbers

671
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: and big plays down field, that Tyler Lockett has been

672
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: the number one receiver all along. You know, it's like

673
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: both of I mean, you know, Metcalf certainly gets the

674
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: you know, accolades because he's so big and he makes

675
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: so many big plays and all that stuff. But I

676
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: think that you weigh the big plays that Lockett makes

677
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: in the incredible runs that he has puts them into

678
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: rare spot. I mean, he's been in the NFL Top

679
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: one hundred now from the NFL Fill Network for what

680
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: two three years, and he's been a Pro Bowl alternate

681
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: for several several years. You know the way he's going

682
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: right now, particularly if a good over one hundred catches,

683
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: you know, because again, say what you want, it's like

684
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: he did have more catches last year than DK Medcalf,

685
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't you know. It's like, sure, you can

686
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: maybe make the argument that both are number ones, but

687
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: right now you'd have to say that I still think

688
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: you would consider Tyler Olaka the number one receiver on

689
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: the team, even though DK Medcalf has so much more talent.

690
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: It's interesting you get near, you know, second third year,

691
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: you got you gotta adjust, and then DK's finding out

692
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: again jos he did last year. But let's let's talk

693
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: about something that again I thought I hurt in the Seahawks.

694
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: We didn't have a lot of injuries last week, but

695
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: I thought we had some key ones, particularly on the

696
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: defensive line. Brian Money, you know, tough running game. Where

697
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: are we with some injuries right now? Well, I mean

698
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: right now, it certainly looks questionable as far as Brandon

699
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: Shell at right tackle because he didn't practice today because

700
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: of the ankle injury. You know. Yeah, Still you wonder

701
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: about Dwayne Estridge because again, you know, a concussion should

702
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: be okay after one week, but he's still been struggling

703
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: a little bit with that, so that's going to be

704
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: in question. You know, Damian Lewis sounds like he's in

705
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: better shape now. He's limited, but again that means he's

706
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: probably gonna be questionable, but he's got to be much

707
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: better than he was last week where he had to

708
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: alternate with Jamarco Jones. But overall, I mean Rashad Penny

709
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: obviously he's not going to be able to play, and

710
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: so they're not in too bad of a shape. I

711
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: think as far as their injuries, you know, we'll see

712
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: where they are with you know, Freddie Swain Swayne has

713
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: the back injury, but he was limited today and I

714
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: can't imagine a back injury is going to keep a

715
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: fast receiver out of a game. John, The NFL did

716
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: a great job a couple of years back allowing team celebrations,

717
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: having fun, right there were the No Fun League. Then

718
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: they mess up. They get a pass interference type call

719
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: in there where guys can challenge that. They mess that up.

720
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: They fixed that, So now it's the taunting, right, the

721
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 1: over emphasis on taunting. Do you think this is something

722
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: that the NFL is going to stick with? Are the

723
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: gonna make right eventually? Right now, they're gonna stick with

724
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: it because they're stubborn and you know, and each year

725
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: they'll come up with some rule change that's absolutely dumb,

726
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 1: and this one's really dumb. I mean, here's the thing

727
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: that's so bad about this. It's like, okay, so now

728
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 1: you have a taunting penalty, particularly something that's really innocent,

729
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: that's not going to cause a fight, you know, just

730
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: like you know DJ Reid and his little celebration that

731
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: he was turning was like, was that celebrating himself? Was

732
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: he trying to show up the receiver who dropped the ball?

733
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 1: And I don't think he was showing up the receiver

734
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: dropped the ball. But here's the stupid part of it.

735
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 1: To add to the fact that they're doing this fifteen

736
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: yards fifteen yards for a taunting penalty, you're making this

737
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: the same as you know, knocking down the quarterback, knocking

738
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,479
Speaker 1: a roughing, roughing running back, you know, helmet type hits.

739
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 1: I mean, you're making a taunting penalty where there's no

740
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: contact and making it a fifteen yard penalty. Now there's

741
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: been eleven of them, and I think what the Seahawks

742
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: have about twenty percent of them. But to me, it

743
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: is a waste of time. And again, you know, penalties

744
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: right now or at the stage where you know they've increased,

745
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 1: you know, maybe about ten to fifteen percent, there are

746
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: two thirty five after two weeks, and uh, you know,

747
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: the taunting penalties adds to it. And it's crazy. John,

748
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: I don't even know if you know this question, but

749
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: I'll ask it. Yeah, because when I think of rules

750
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 1: like this, like the I don't want to say targeting,

751
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: but you know, if you hit somebody too hard in

752
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: the NFL, now, you know, particularly defensively hits offensive guys

753
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: like receivers, they throw a penalty. I get that because

754
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: you're trying to protect a player, and the fans why

755
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: they don't like it. The NFL is going to go,

756
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: I get it, but we've got a bigger goal here.

757
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: The taunting one isn't about safety, and the fans hate it.

758
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: So I don't really get why wouldn't they go right

759
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: now middle of the year ago, this is a dumb thing.

760
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 1: Let's let's we don't have to change the rule, because

761
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: they really didn't change the rule. All we're doing is

762
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: emphasizing it. Now. Just let's take the emphasis off. Yeah. Yeah,

763
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: but I don't think they will because I think that

764
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: they're going to be stubborn about this, you know, once

765
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: they make a decision. You know, they stuck with the

766
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: you know, the stupid defensive interference rule and that challenge

767
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: and all that stuff until the entire season, until it

768
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: went to the NFC Championship game against the Rams and

769
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: the Saints had a call that should have gone their

770
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: way but didn't, and they end up going out going

771
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. And out of that they said, well, gee,

772
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: this costs the Saints the chance to go to the

773
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Let's take that rule away. And in this case,

774
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you're getting too many penalty and again fifteen

775
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: yards for taunting and then not only fifteen yards, but

776
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: you now you put the player one half of the

777
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: way from being ejected. Yeah, it really doesn't make any sense.

778
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: Let's Minnesota real quick. Oh and two. Zimmer has probably

779
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: taking some heat here. Pretty good football team, John, I mean,

780
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: going on the road, this is our home opener. You know,

781
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: just your your thoughts on how how good of a

782
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: team were about to face? Who is actually owing two? Yeah,

783
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: I think their average because obviously they've got a pass rush,

784
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: particularly with the Neil Hunter, who's one of the best

785
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: in the league. And they've got really good linebackers, but

786
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: they're really shaky in the secondary. And that's been the

787
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: way for the last couple of years. I mean, you

788
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: think about the fact that, you know what they've in

789
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: the last like three years, four years, they've drafted two

790
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: first round picks at cornerback and they're no longer with

791
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: the team, and that's bad. And so it's like, I mean,

792
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: last year they were so young at line at cornerback

793
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: that they were just getting carved up. And I think

794
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: they're still at the stage right now where they're vulnerable

795
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: at the cornerback position. So that that has to be

796
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: a concern, and then they continue to not do well

797
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. Then the other weird part, and

798
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: I have to double check this because I know that

799
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: you know, there was a stat out there that actually

800
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: was wrong that said the only two teams in the

801
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 1: league that have not played draft choices or even had

802
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,720
Speaker 1: a draft choice snap was Seattle and Minnesota. But obviously

803
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: Dwayne Estridge has been on the field, so he's been

804
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: out there. But the Vikings had eleven drafty. I know

805
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: that you know Darres Saul the tackle he's hurt, and

806
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: if you've got a couple of other injuries, but how

807
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: can you draft eleven players and not play them? All? Right?

808
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: John's that time? What do you want to talk about?

809
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: I want to talk about what's going on with Josh Gordon? Rule? Okay,

810
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: what's going on with Josh Gordon? Well, Josh Gordon of course,

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00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: as Adam Schefter, has been reporting for more than two weeks,

812
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: has been passing every one of his drug tests, so

813
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: he's all set to come back in the league. The

814
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: question is going to be when. Now, if you ask

815
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, they will have no word. Is that if

816
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: they're interested in signing him if they're not interested in

817
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: signing him because obviously he burned them twice with two suspensions.

818
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: So it's like, we don't know that. But here's the

819
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: key and follow where I'm going on this. Guess where

820
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: Josh Gordon continues to live Seattle, m okay? And so

821
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: my read is early next week he's going to be reinstated.

822
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: And if that is the case and you're Seattle, I mean,

823
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: and he can talk his way onto the roster. I

824
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: think what you can see is that Josh Gordon will

825
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: be on the practice squad. He may obviously he's not

826
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: going to play next in the Thursday night game against

827
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: the Rams, but also he puts himself in a position

828
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: to at some point after a couple of weeks, he

829
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 1: can emerge and challenge for the number three receiver spot.

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00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: You know, if Michael Bumpus had Josh Gordon's body, he'd

831
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: still be playing. John. We call that Cass, John, Cass, Hey, John,

832
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: we appreciate your time. Man. We will talk to you

833
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: on Sunday. You have a good night. Okay, sounds good.

834
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: Thanks John? All right? That was John Clayton when we returned.

835
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Speaker 1: It's time to talk. That talk we'll pick some topics

836
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: and Paul Moyer and I will square up maybe Tyler

837
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: Lockett justin Phills Kirk Cousins. You have to tune in

838
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: to find out that's next. Right here on Hawks Live,

839
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: it's time to Talk that Talk with Michael Bumpus and

840
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 1: Paul Moyer. On Hawks Live, It's time for Talk that Talk.

841
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: Michael Bompas here with Paul Morier. Every Thursday. We'll be

842
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: right here at seven o'clock. Talk that Talk. Moyer. This

843
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: is when we kind of we can debate a little bit.

844
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: We go back and forth about certain topics. And the

845
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: first one I'll start us off first. I want to

846
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 1: ask you, Moyer. Once you're your true opinion here, all right,

847
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett? Will he end the season leading the Seahawks

848
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: and receptions, yards and touchdowns? Yes he will, Yes, he will.

849
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: He will. And partly he's got such a huge lead

850
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: right from the get go, and I truly believe this

851
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 1: offense is not designed for one guy to go crazy.

852
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: He's gone crazy the last two games. And partly is

853
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 1: you know DK in this league is the League of Adjustments, right,

854
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: you know, how do they play the DK metcalf last year?

855
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: This year. At some point, you know, they're gonna start

856
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: shifting a little bit to Tyler, and that's gonna open

857
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: things up for DK. And once they see that, I mean,

858
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: I just think Tyler's gonna have more opportunities not to

859
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 1: be doubled all along the way. I think this offense

860
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: will give him that shot. But I just think it's

861
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: gonna be hard for one guy to dominate right now.

862
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: I think you just have such a big lead, you

863
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: know what. I disagree. I think DK is going to

864
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 1: get going. I think when it comes to this natural ability,

865
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: right DK has that. I think Lockett is the more

866
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: crafty receiver at this point in his career. That's the

867
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: next step for DK become crafty and catch the difficult football.

868
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: And I think eventually, because teams are gonna hone in

869
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: on Lockett, DK is gonna put together two or three

870
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: good weeks that at least are gonna keep him in

871
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: the fight and get him going. I don't think it's

872
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: gonna be a blow out. I think it's gonna be close.

873
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: They're gonna be within a hundred yards. Ten catches, two touchdowns.

874
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: He saw what the numbers were last year. I mean,

875
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: these dudes were close, So I think it's a toss up.

876
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: But I think that mister DK Metcalf. All right, So

877
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 1: right now, you've got two hundred and seventy eight yards

878
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 1: for Lockett. Yeah, you got one hundred and eleven for Metcalf.

879
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: You got three touchdowns for Lockett, one for Metcalf. Hey,

880
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: you could talk me out of that one. Yeah, and

881
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: may and I really think Lockets can have more yards

882
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: and more catches. The touchdown won those trick here because

883
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: we start getting into that red zone. You know, DC's force.

884
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: I think the Titans come into play as well. But

885
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: you know, I'm still gonna stick with Lockett. But the

886
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: touchdown one, I think is gonna be the toughest. All right,

887
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go last week. When you get double digit leads,

888
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say double digit leads, I'm gonna say

889
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,919
Speaker 1: more than one score. So let's get nine points or more.

890
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 1: Is that fair? That means you're a pretty good team.

891
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,439
Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're doing some really great things. Last

892
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 1: year we had a bunch of those. Defense was struggling

893
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: the first, you know, half of the season and got

894
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: it right in the second half. We've done that again

895
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 1: twice in two games and last week we're up by fifteen,

896
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 1: We're up by fourteen, should have been up by fifteen

897
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: into the fourth quarter. Will the Seahawks and will this

898
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: be the last time the Seahawks blow? And I hate

899
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: saying blow? Will they last time to give up more

900
00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: than a score and lead in the fourth quarter? I'm

901
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: gonna say no, and I say no because this is

902
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: the NFL and there are gonna be times where you

903
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: are going to fail. I think this offense is still

904
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: trying to figure themselves out. It looks like a good offense.

905
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: I think you and I both agree. We like what

906
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: they're doing. We're like what they're trying to accomplish. But

907
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna be times where it just ain't working. Where

908
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: you come out hot and like we mentioned during the postgame,

909
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: have time adjustments, meaning that two minutes that the coaches

910
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 1: got to speak to you, they throw a little nugget

911
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: in there and say all right, look we're gonna do this,

912
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: and then maybe it changes. I just know how this

913
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: league works, man. No one goes undefeated. There's never a

914
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: flawless game. They're gonna be times for your quarterback struggles,

915
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: gonna be time with your defense struggles. I'm gonna give

916
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: them one more time this year. I don't think it's

917
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,439
Speaker 1: gonna be a habit, but one more time, you know, again,

918
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: give it up. A lead happens. You know, you're up

919
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: by three, six, whatever, I mean, the teams score up

920
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: and then again, that's just part of life. Give it

921
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: up a double digit lead, though that those are rare.

922
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, it's the first time I think, and

923
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's time here that you know, going into the

924
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, that that's happened. But it's not just on

925
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: the defense, you know, it's it's a lot on the

926
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 1: defense because I'm paying you guys to stop these guys now,

927
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: and they're they should be throwing the football. Last week

928
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 1: we found out Tennessee said now we'll run it. Well,

929
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: we're fine, fourth quarter, we'll we'll still run the football down,

930
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: you know, two scores. But the offense man went three

931
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: and out, three and out, three and out, four and out.

932
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if it was quite in

933
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: that order. One of those was actually I believe a touchdown.

934
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: But they got to help him out too. This was

935
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: a team fourth quarter loss. Defense gave it up with

936
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: a big play, The big running play offense, not sustaining drive,

937
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: not getting first downs. They almost doubled us in first down.

938
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: So I think we get it corrected. I think if

939
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 1: we got a nine point leader more, we're not giving

940
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: that up again this year. Now. I just we're too

941
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: good a pass rushing team. I believe our secondary is good.

942
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta get better. I think we're gonna

943
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 1: make a huge improvement from this last week to this week.

944
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:05,959
Speaker 1: And how we how we play, I don't know. Just

945
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: just just tighten things up now. Not making selly mistakes

946
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,720
Speaker 1: along the way. And team lost. We gotta throw special

947
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 1: teams in there, and there was an extra point I

948
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: was missed and that kind of bit him in the

949
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: butt later. All right, Now, next question Aaron rodgers Man.

950
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: We've been talking about him a lot this offseason, especially

951
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 1: during the season. First week against the New Orleans Saints,

952
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: He's fifteen to twenty eight, two interception, doesn't look good,

953
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 1: one sack. Looks like he's been vacation in all off season.

954
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: Second week against the Bears, thirty five to seventeen win,

955
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: eighty one eighty one. He completes eighty one percent of

956
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 1: his passes, four touchdowns, no interceptions. Was Aaron Rodgers right?

957
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: Are the Packers? Okay? Should we go back to what

958
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: he said a couple of years ago and just relax? Well,

959
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: if they had to play the Bears, I might have

960
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: changed my mind. But I think they played Detroit and

961
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: they beat Detroit thirty five seventeen. They were down at

962
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: halftime to Troit. Yeah, it's Detroit, Detroit at home. Aaron

963
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: Rodgers played well, he's what twenty two for twenty seven

964
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: four touchdowns? You know, look good? He still looks like

965
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: a yoga instructor. To me, I just don't think yoga

966
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: instructors are built to last season in the NFL. You're

967
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: not for all you and yoga instructors betweeting me and

968
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: all that. I love yoga. I think it should be

969
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: a part of every person's life for a lot of

970
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: good reasons. But if that's all you do, not truly

971
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: that I think that's all Aaron Rodgers do. No, I

972
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: think I think Green Bay's in trouble. They to me,

973
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: didn't look good against Detroit. Maybe Detroit's better than we thought.

974
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: They've actually played pretty well two weeks in a row. Um. No,

975
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: now there they are who they are? You know, I

976
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be okay. And what maybe a believer

977
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: was watching some of the throws that Aaron Rodgers made

978
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,439
Speaker 1: against Detroit. I know it is Detroit, but he's still

979
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: off his back foot, he slide into the right, he's

980
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: off balance, He's still making the Aaron Rodgers type throws.

981
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: I like your point to he don't look like he's

982
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: built to last. But you know who else don't looks

983
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: like he's built to last. Tom Brady looks like, man,

984
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: if you hit him too hard on a Tuesday, he's

985
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: done for two weeks. He just doesn't look like a

986
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: very strong football player. And now the quarterack position, I

987
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: don't think you need to look like that. But I

988
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: just I believe in the magic of Aaron Rodgers for

989
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: some reason. Yeah, Tom Brady and I get that's a

990
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: good point. Um. You know, the differtory is Tom and Aaron.

991
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: Tom's says, I'm not holding on the ball more in

992
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: two seconds, Yeah, Aaron wants to backpedal, he wants extent

993
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: and you know, look all pretty as he's leaning back

994
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: and throwing off his back foot. So no, no go

995
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: for me? All right, twenty seconds, Josh Gordon is available,

996
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: do you take a chance on him. Yeah. That came

997
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: from our last segment with John Clayton and potentially him

998
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: being available next week. He's living here. Yes, I'm taking

999
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: him Athletic leaks crazy. Put him on the practice squad.

1000
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: I don't think we need him right now. But if

1001
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 1: you put him out wide with DK and Tyler inside,

1002
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: mix in some Eskridge as well, just say pure that

1003
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: his presence alone Josh Gordon makes teams go, oh, do

1004
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: we leave him alone? Yeah? All right, I don't know

1005
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: where I stand on that. I think you got some

1006
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: young guys who are ready to go. I don't know that.

1007
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: That's a tricky one. All right, when wait, wait, wait,

1008
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 1: all right, all right, yes, no, no, okay, no, don't

1009
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: take it later, camp White, there was no tilent that

1010
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 1: was shown in there for you. All right, My bad,

1011
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: my bad. Moyer. All right, when we return, we're gonna

1012
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: go inside the film room. Bobby Wagner sack. He got

1013
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: Tyler Locke's touchdown, Henry's sixty yard touchdown. We'll break it

1014
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: down right here on Hawks Lock. Welcome back to Hawkslive

1015
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: of Michael Bump is hanging out with Paul Moyer. We're

1016
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: about to go inside the film room. This is something

1017
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: that Moyer and I really enjoy doing. Right as we

1018
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 1: both played, we both coached. There's nothing like watching film

1019
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: and breaking down what really happened because a lot of

1020
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: people sit on their couch, Moyer and they got all

1021
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: the answers, but they can't tell you what it texts

1022
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: this done is. They can't tell you what what that

1023
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 1: nine tech is. They can't tell you what a cover

1024
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: three is. So Morier, we're here to help the people

1025
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 1: learn the game. I like it. And there's as we

1026
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 1: say that you're never as good or as bad as

1027
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: you think you are until you go into the film

1028
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: session and find out what's really going on. Yep, you

1029
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: gotta tell the truth, all right. The first play we're

1030
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,240
Speaker 1: gonna break down. Bobby Wagner sex Ryan Tannehill on third down.

1031
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: It's a force a field goal Tannehill from the shotgun

1032
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: with a slot near side. Tannehill gets hit and goes

1033
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: down on the blitz. Bobby Wagner came flashing through untouched

1034
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: and he just barry Tannehill back at the fifteen yard

1035
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: line at eight yard loss. And Dave you mentioned it,

1036
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,720
Speaker 1: there may be no better blitzer from that inside backer spot.

1037
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: There's a lot of good things here. First of all,

1038
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: shout out to Bobby a really productive day, twenty tackles

1039
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: franchise record last week, and I know he's not happy

1040
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 1: about it because you know, we lost and they gave

1041
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: up a lot of yards and stuff. But this is

1042
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: something he's been doing well for so long. It's something

1043
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: I love. I actually like it when they have a

1044
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: bit of a five band front, you know, this bare look,

1045
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: which isn't I'm not describing his play right now, and

1046
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: then shoot the tackles are defensive tackles out wide and

1047
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: pull the guards out wide too, so there's a big

1048
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: space there that he can work one on one against

1049
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: the center. I've seen hardly any centers that can beat

1050
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: him or can lock him up one on one like that.

1051
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: But in this particular play, they just run a little stunt.

1052
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: And it's really the reason why I say it's a

1053
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: little stunt is Bobby Wagner times is so perfect. And

1054
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: as soon as the center puts his head down because

1055
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: they're in a shotgun, look, as soon as he puts

1056
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: his head down, if this comes from film study, he

1057
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: knows the ball is gonna get snapped, right, after so

1058
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: his timing of it's perfect. And so they bring our

1059
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: left tackle inside the garden center kind of mess it up.

1060
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: They should have actually picked us up, but Bobby so fast.

1061
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: By the time they realize what was going on. The

1062
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: guard looked and Bobby said, where'd he go? Where'd who go?

1063
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: And it was a big sack. I was actually worried

1064
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: on this play that we're gonna get a personal file

1065
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 1: because Bobby really did a bear hug high and went

1066
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 1: towards his helmet and neck or Bobba's neck. And nowadays

1067
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 1: you just don't know what they're gonna call if you

1068
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,959
Speaker 1: hurt somebody too much. But just it shows it's still

1069
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 1: a speed as explosiveness. Another big played by Bobby Wagner,

1070
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: big play by Bobby. The thing that sticks out to

1071
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: me is Ryan Tannehill. He's not even looking at Bobby.

1072
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: He looks at this offensive line and what they're bringing.

1073
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: It says, look, I'm protected on that side. Even if

1074
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: they stunt that, I should be good. It's a numbers game.

1075
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: So Ryan Tannehill is looking to the left and then

1076
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: you mentioned man, Bobby Wagner times it up perfectly. Big

1077
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,919
Speaker 1: hit on Ryan Tannehill. Forcing them to a field goal.

1078
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: Every game. I look for a signature Bobby Wagner play.

1079
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: We got one in week two with this play for sure.

1080
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: All right, next play, we're gonna break down. Russell Wilson

1081
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 1: finds Tyler Lockett for a sixty three yard touchdown in

1082
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: the second quarter wide slot, far side Russ play fake

1083
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: beach chase. Now he looks now he throws back. It's

1084
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett. Waits makes the catch, but to tackle thirty

1085
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: twenty five backup, touching ten five toutsdown, Tyler locking toutsdown

1086
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: Seahawks a sixty three yarder. The Tyler Locket stop started,

1087
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: broke a tackle and then broke the tape at the

1088
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: finish line like he was winning the hundred in the Olympics.

1089
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 1: The building is rocking and the Seahawks go on top

1090
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: nine to six. Now this is just beautiful. I look

1091
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 1: at Tyler Lockett's release and he understands what he's trying

1092
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: to accomplish. Now, you young receivers, you don't just line

1093
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: them to the line of the scream to say, okay,

1094
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: I'm running a post. You gotta have a plan, And

1095
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: this shows Tyler Lockett has a plan. He knows he's

1096
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: going to sell that corner, right, but he knows I'm

1097
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: gonna go back to this post. So what does he do.

1098
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,959
Speaker 1: He takes an inside release and says, look, I'm gonna

1099
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: let this defender thing. He has me on the corner.

1100
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: At the top of this route, he turns his shoulders

1101
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: to the corner the defender's line, I mean position at

1102
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: this point. He snaps it off at the top, breaks

1103
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: to the post and says, lip, there's nothing but space

1104
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: an opportunity for me. Russell throws a deep ball. The

1105
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 1: rest is Tyler Lockett, our friend Bradley McDougal, who used

1106
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: to play on this ball club, takes a horrible angle

1107
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: and the rest is number sixteen. This is a receiver

1108
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 1: who has a plan and who understands how to attack

1109
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: a defense. Yeah, good, good protection. I this is one

1110
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: where Russell kind of slid inside the pocket bottle just

1111
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: a little bit of extra time. Throws an absolute dime.

1112
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: And you'd mentioned sometimes their deception from receivers, right, So

1113
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: if I'm covering you the particularly of my backs to

1114
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: the football, there's times where I've got to play your

1115
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: hands right. I'm looking at your hip and what kind

1116
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: of route you're gonna run. And there's a guy named

1117
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 1: Steve Largent that many people are familiar with. I'll never

1118
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: forget when he was playing against Lester Hayes. It's Lester.

1119
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: I think it's Lesters from the Raiders. I mean he

1120
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: was He had all the you know, stick him on

1121
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: his arms and everything, just a fantastic And we were

1122
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: playing at home in the Kingdom and they were battling

1123
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: all day and Lester's you know, just bump and run,

1124
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: mirroring him wherever he can go. But Steve's having a

1125
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 1: pretty good day. And it's like twenty yards downfield and

1126
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: Steve runs a fade route, you know, it gets an

1127
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: outside release. Lester's got him pinned to the sideline. But

1128
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: Lester liked to read his hands, so he's running and

1129
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Steve puts out his hands like

1130
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: it's a fade route, and as soon as Lester turns

1131
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: around for the ball, he stops and does a twenty

1132
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: yard come back. Oh it was good, Nay, yeah, it

1133
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 1: was nasty. And so Lockett has a little bit of

1134
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: that deception in him in his route. So that was

1135
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: my point there. Yeah, and he has his own style

1136
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: no one runs routes and plays like Tyler Lockett. I

1137
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: love to see it. Next play, This one might hurt

1138
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: a little bit. Derek Henry sixty yard touchdown and run

1139
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: in the four. Henry stays in the backfield first and ten.

1140
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 1: He gets the hand off, starts left, cuts back inside,

1141
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: but miss tackle, turns up field. Peach By digs down

1142
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: the near sidelines, stiff arms digs He's gonna go in?

1143
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Derek Henry goes sixty yards down

1144
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 1: the near sideline. Seattle hit. Done a magnificent job the

1145
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: entire game of bottling up. Number twenty two he bounces outside,

1146
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: two tackles missed, and he goes sixty yards for a

1147
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 1: touch and just like that, Tennessee right back in at

1148
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 1: thirty to twenty two. Yeah, this one hurts me as

1149
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: a coach because I've got the play. You know, I

1150
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: won't describe the whole thing on this, but they come

1151
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 1: into a tight formation like a wing. Look, even though

1152
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: I think one of them is a wide receiver to

1153
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 1: our right, Jamal Adams is in between what you know,

1154
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: I used to a wing formation. So he blitzes and

1155
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: he comes into it. I don't even know what gap

1156
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: we're looking at here at this point, but he comes

1157
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 1: inside between the two tight ends or that it's actually

1158
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: wide receiver, but it looks like a two tight end,

1159
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: and set trying to describe this for people. The ball

1160
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: is in is on our far left hash mark. As

1161
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: a defense, it's offense is far far right hash mark.

1162
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 1: Everybody gets washed down mefic. Jamal gets washed down so far.

1163
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: Even though he gets penetration and he gets up field,

1164
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: he gets washed down so far. He gets pushed all

1165
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: the way all to where the ball was almost to

1166
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: the hash mark. So now tray flower and by the way,

1167
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: this is like a little via or what I've called

1168
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: just what would you call this we've got Henry takes

1169
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: a jab step to his right and then he comes

1170
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: back to his left misdirection. And what it does is

1171
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 1: when you get flow, what we call flow of the

1172
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: running back going to the left side of the defense,

1173
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: everybody has a certain gap. Well, as soon as he

1174
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: makes that misdirection and comes back to the other everybody's

1175
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: got to shift over back to the other side with

1176
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: their gap. Bobby doesn't make that adjustment. Jamal gets washed

1177
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: too far. So now you've got Trey Flowers sitting out

1178
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: there as the force in the contained corner, and he's

1179
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: got so much space. It's a one on one tackle

1180
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: in the open field against Henry who's six foot three,

1181
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: six foot four, two hundred and fifty five sixty pounds,

1182
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 1: runs a four to five, and which surprised me is

1183
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: he runs away from everybody. It's you know, it's not

1184
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: a bad defense. It's just this is technique. These are

1185
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: the little things. You can never get washed in this

1186
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: situation for Jamal. Jamal can't. You can't get run up field,

1187
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: you can't get washed down inside. Now, I would say

1188
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: for Trey, Trey, you gotta try and squeeze out as

1189
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: much as he can. It was my original thought. You

1190
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: gotta squeeze it down trying to get in a hip

1191
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: pocket of that tight end. In this case, it's a

1192
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: wide receiver off the ball man. It's just too much space. Yeah,

1193
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: way too much space. And correct me if I'm wrong here. More,

1194
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: I think that Jamal can do a better job of

1195
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: not committing right now. Right, he gets in there and

1196
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: he gets washed because he gets that penetration and gets

1197
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: pushed in the back. He makes as a receiver, all right,

1198
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: if I know that, Okay, this run is meant to

1199
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: pop outside. If you go inside, I'm like, yep, I'm

1200
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: gonna push you on your shoulder. I've done my job.

1201
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,439
Speaker 1: I don't even really need to make it great block.

1202
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: I just need to take you where you wants to go.

1203
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: That's what Julio Jones does. And then I feel bad

1204
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: for Trey Flowers. They don't pay him to make tackles

1205
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: like that. That's that's now. He should make tackles. But

1206
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: that's not You don't expect your corner. It's not like

1207
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: he's Richard Sherman, where you know Sherman used to make

1208
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: those tackles. But I don't see corners as open field

1209
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: tacklers like that. But yeah, but this is tough one.

1210
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: And again I see what Jamal sees. Jamal sees that

1211
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: misdirection step going to his left them Again, Jamal's on

1212
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: the right side. He's blitzing down the line of scrimmage basically,

1213
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: or in the backfield, but down the line of scrimmage.

1214
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: He thinks he's gonna have a blow up shot on Henry.

1215
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 1: Henry does the misdirection cuts it back, and then you

1216
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: have Trey Trey right now it's going. Oh. The only

1217
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: thing I would tell Trey is guy, if he could

1218
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: have just shut it down a little bit sooner he

1219
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: actually comes two or three yards into the backfield, I

1220
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: would have tried to set a little close for the

1221
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage there. But I look, honestly, I'm looking

1222
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: this play over and over and night. Go. Trey is

1223
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: in a tough situation, and this show's one of the

1224
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: most nimble plays for a man who's two hundred and

1225
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: sixty pounds. Look at the cut and again for those

1226
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: who can get a chance to go back and look

1227
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 1: at it. You know, Bump and I are looking at

1228
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 1: it right now. Look at the cutting makes on Trey here.

1229
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just a one step cut upfield, and

1230
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: look at all that room. Nothing Tray can do. Nothing

1231
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: he can do there. That play changed the game for sure,

1232
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: all right. Those were our three players, Bobby Wagner, Sack,

1233
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, and Tyler Lockett. And then Derreck Henry's sixty

1234
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: yard TD run That definitely changed the game. When we

1235
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,959
Speaker 1: come back, we're gonna go around the NFL Kyler Murray

1236
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: versus Russell Wilson. Grant makes a confession on Monday Night football.

1237
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: All that is next right here on Hawks Line. Welcome

1238
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: back to Hawks Live. Thanks for hanging out with us

1239
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: tonight on a Thursday. If you weren't watching the game,

1240
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 1: the Panthers gotta done. Good win by the Panthers Sam

1241
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: Darnold twenty three to thirty four, three out of four

1242
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: yards and two rushing touchdowns three and oh three and

1243
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: oh three and oh on the Thursday. That's a good feeling. Yeah,

1244
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: it is good to chill watch it go down. All right.

1245
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: So now we're going around the NFL. We're gonna start

1246
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: with Stephen A. Smith. We all know he has very

1247
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: strong opinions about things, and he talked about two quarterbacks.

1248
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: There's a quarterback in the NFC West that's making a

1249
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: case in saying, look, man, don't forget about me. I

1250
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: know Matthew Stafford is new to the block. I know

1251
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is here. You gotta maybe a controversy brewing

1252
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:41,479
Speaker 1: in San Francisco with Garoppolo and Trey Lance. But Kylin

1253
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: Murray has been doing doing this thing, and Stephen A.

1254
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 1: Smith has something to say about that. Which quarterback would

1255
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: you rather have? Russ or Kyler? Shockingly I'm gonna tell you,

1256
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 1: Kylin Murray, and I'm fully aware of the greatness of

1257
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. He's a first, He's a future Hall of Famous.

1258
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 1: Far as I'm concerned, he's carried to Seahawks franchise on

1259
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: his back. I love me Russell Wilson. He is special

1260
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,919
Speaker 1: with Colin Murray, ladies and gentleman. He's putting everybody on notice.

1261
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: He's twenty four years old. Okay, this brother already has

1262
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: passed for nearly seven hundred yards in two games this season,

1263
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 1: seven touchdowns just being receptions. He's completing over seventy three

1264
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: of his passes. And I'm looking at this dude, just

1265
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: make things happen. He's got an arm. When you talk

1266
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: about I mean, when you talk about a guy that

1267
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: can move in and out of the pocket, extend plays,

1268
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: and create opportunities to his offense. In terms of running

1269
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 1: with the football, there's nobody better than him other than

1270
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. All right, Moyer, why is he wrong? Why

1271
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: is he right? How do you feel about this? I

1272
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: don't know if he's wrong. I think Kyler Murray heard

1273
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: me in preseason say he's just not accurate and he's

1274
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: stepped up his game, but he's second the league. He's

1275
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: right with six hundred and eighty nine yards. He's got

1276
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: seven touchdowns. The thing I like to look at and

1277
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: I do believe you know that they're doing a pretty

1278
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: good job of making him get rid of the ball. Yeah.

1279
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 1: Is he completing eighty percent of his passes at seventy

1280
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 1: three point? I don't know. I'm not completely sold at it.

1281
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: I would say this after two games. I think his

1282
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: legs are so dynamic and it's such a big part

1283
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: of this game nowadays. You know when protection breaks down

1284
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: and what the receivers he has. I don't I'm not

1285
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: saying stephen A is wrong after the first two games,

1286
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 1: But let me tell you what the last eight games

1287
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 1: of the year. In the last three games, are you

1288
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: going to the playoffs? Oh? I promise you you want

1289
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, Yes, And Kyler Murray's he's good man. He's

1290
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: short though. Man, I just I don't know. Teams are

1291
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: going to figure that part out. Yeah. See, this is

1292
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 1: the way I feel about Kyler Murray. I love what

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01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: he does is exciting. He extends plays, But when you

1294
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,439
Speaker 1: go on a road trip, you don't take the sports car. Right,

1295
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: you take the reliable, you take the suv. You can

1296
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: fit the family in there. You know it is there

1297
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 1: for the long haul. That's how I see Russell Wilson.

1298
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is like, look, I'm the dependable vehicle, all right.

1299
01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta tune me up. You gotta take

1300
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: to the shop and make sure I'm good to go.

1301
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna be there for you. Like you mentioned

1302
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 1: the last eight games, the last three games, I just

1303
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: have to see a full season from Kyler Murray. You

1304
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 1: can only depend on those legs so much. A lot

1305
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 1: of his big plays are broken down plays where he

1306
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: makes things happen. Now there's a guy, Patrick Mahomes who

1307
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: kind of does the same thing. It just looks different.

1308
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. Boy, it looks different

1309
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 1: when Mahomes does it. It looks like it's more sustainable

1310
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 1: when Mahomes does it. I think Kyler Murray had two

1311
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 1: better weeks than Russell Wilson. But in the long haul, man,

1312
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm taking Russell. Well, I mean, let's go ahead and

1313
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: look at Russell's numbers just a little bit. And by

1314
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 1: the way, just got Patrick Mahomes is super accurate, yea

1315
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 1: with an incredible arm, and he's mobile. Kyler has a

1316
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 1: strong arm, unbelievably mobile. He not super accurate, and he

1317
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 1: needs the dinks and dunks. But you just mentioned that

1318
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:55,479
Speaker 1: he's completing seventy three percent of his pass as well.

1319
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's completing seventy four percent of his passes. Kyler

1320
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 1: Murray has seven touchdown Russ Wilson has six touchdowns. You

1321
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: got a quarterback rating? What's what's Kyler's quarterback rating? One?

1322
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: As apologize it's not seventy one point six. Oh excuse me,

1323
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: one twenty one point five. Yeah, one twenty one point five.

1324
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: We got Russell Wilson with one forty six point nine.

1325
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 1: So Kyler Murray has played the best two games of

1326
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: his life and it's still not as good as Russell Wilson.

1327
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 1: Tell him, Moawyer. But they are two and oh and

1328
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 1: the NFC West has not lost a game in regular

1329
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: time so far this year and overtime lost. Let me

1330
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 1: just add some food for thought. Right now. Number one,

1331
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray does not have the career he has right now.

1332
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 1: It's not even this league if there wasn't for Russell

1333
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 1: Wilson number one. That's point blank. But I will say

1334
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: this a little devil's advocate here the things that we're

1335
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: saying about Kyler right now, some people said about Russell

1336
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 1: in the sense of it's an unfair comparison. Russell has

1337
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: done so much in this league. When Russell first got in,

1338
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 1: everyone compared him to Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers.

1339
01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: He didn't have as much time in the league at

1340
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,959
Speaker 1: that point. But now, I don't know, are we saying

1341
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 1: the same things about a young Russell Wilson that he

1342
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: just makes too many plays with his feet. He's really

1343
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: about this, He's only good when the plays breakdown. Are

1344
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 1: we making the same mistakes that maybe we said about

1345
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson that we other people said back in the day.

1346
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 1: All right, so I'll add to that. When Russell was

1347
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: coming out, did you think of him as a runner

1348
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 1: or a thrower runner? All day? Did? I thought it

1349
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 1: was a runner? He rush for eight hundred yards one season? Yeah, No,

1350
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 1: that was like year whenever there was a year we

1351
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 1: didn't rush very well. But um, I still thought of

1352
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 1: him as a thrower who could run. I think Kyler

1353
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 1: as a runner. That's a tough one. Because Lamar is

1354
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 1: starting to come out of that that stigma too, and

1355
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 1: every said he's a runner, you know, he's not a thrower.

1356
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: He's starting to, I think, prove some doubters on that

1357
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 1: one wrong. I don't know. If you took the mobility

1358
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: away from Kyler, I think he's done. You take some mobility,

1359
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 1: you think you can win just on throwing that you

1360
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: can throw. You think you can because I think Russell

1361
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 1: can sit in the pocket and beat you. Okay, but

1362
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 1: all right, well, are you take away his legs? He

1363
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 1: becomes say like an Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers doesn't have

1364
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 1: great legs, but he can move a little bit. He

1365
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 1: can slide in the pocketing and extend some plays. If

1366
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 1: he had the legs of Aaron Rodgers. I think he's

1367
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 1: still okay. I I think Kyler's just he Kyler has

1368
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 1: to have the legs because he's so short, you know,

1369
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he's really limited and seeing Overlyneman. So I'm

1370
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: saying he's done after you're eight nine, you know, I

1371
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what I'm saying. I want.

1372
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make a good analogy here, and it's

1373
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 1: not doing very well for me. I just think you

1374
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 1: take Russell's legs away. Which look, Russell doesn't run as

1375
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 1: well as he used to. Know, He's still shifty, he

1376
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 1: knows how to escape, but he's not running by anybody.

1377
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 1: Kyler is. Yeah. I just think when that goes away,

1378
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 1: will Kyler be a guy that you you fear throwing

1379
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: the football? Because I think people now go, oh, I

1380
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: fear Russell Russell throwing it. Yeah, and maybe that Kyler

1381
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 1: turns into that. Yeah. Time will tell. Time. I will

1382
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,919
Speaker 1: take Russell, though, I'll take Russell too. All right, real quick,

1383
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about Rob Gronkowski. He made a confession

1384
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: on the pay Manning or excuse me, the Manning Brothers

1385
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 1: make it cast on Monday Night Football. My teammate cam

1386
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 1: Break just asked me the other day. He goes, Rob,

1387
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 1: I have a serious question. He goes, do you ever

1388
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 1: watch film? And I said, no, I don't. It's I

1389
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 1: just run by guys. If I'm feeling good, I'm feeling good.

1390
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 1: So I don't know how to answer that. Eli, I

1391
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 1: don't watch film, but I do watch it when the

1392
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 1: team is showing it. So uh, and I actually do

1393
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,600
Speaker 1: go up to time because I know Tim watches like,

1394
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 1: I don't know forty hours of film a week. I go, Tom,

1395
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: who's covering me this week? What type of coverages are

1396
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 1: they doing? I love it and I hate it at

1397
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 1: the same time. I love it because he's honest and

1398
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 1: he's that good to where he probably doesn't have to

1399
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: watch it. I hate it because Moyer, I needed to

1400
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 1: watch film. I needed to know what they're gonna look

1401
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,520
Speaker 1: like a third down? What are they gonna be their adjustments?

1402
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: Who am I going up? Begins? I look up, and

1403
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 1: I would mark down to the third step? Easy out

1404
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 1: of his break by his third step? What is gonna

1405
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 1: do in this covers? Like, I had it down to

1406
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 1: a science. So I love it because he's just good

1407
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 1: and he's honest. But I'm jealous because I had to

1408
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 1: watch film. Yeah, most guys, look, first of all, we

1409
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 1: watch a ton of film. Just in your position meetings, right,

1410
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 1: I mean it's they get everything broken down. Here's by

1411
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 1: formation where you are on the field down a distance.

1412
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, here's some tendencies on these players.

1413
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 1: Go look at this, and by the way, you got

1414
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: some cut ups, you know, look at third down, look

1415
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 1: at play acts, and you get all that stuff along

1416
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 1: the way. So most of us have watched a ton

1417
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: of film, but there's others that watched a lot more.

1418
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 1: I liked watch the film. I've always liked it. Now,

1419
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 1: I didn't study the players like they probably do today

1420
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 1: because quite frankly, it wasn't an HD, and you know,

1421
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 1: I couldn't see, you know, the fingers move and things

1422
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 1: like that they do today. I mean, it's more about

1423
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 1: formations and all that other stuff. But the Seahawks used

1424
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: to do something that was really funny back then. Have

1425
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 1: you have you ever heard of VHS tapes? Of course, okay,

1426
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 1: you're you're you're not too young. For those out there

1427
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 1: who are listening for the first time, VHS what is it?

1428
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 1: They're there are video tapes that they would make and

1429
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 1: they would give them all the players and give them

1430
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: to them with cutups and other games. Most of the players,

1431
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 1: we've watched enough film. You don't need to go home

1432
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: and put on a VHS and back and back. Well,

1433
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: one day they said, by the way, we know if

1434
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: you've been watching it, because we can tell if I

1435
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 1: don't know. They made by the way, they made this

1436
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,679
Speaker 1: up so players would go home and stick the tape

1437
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 1: into their tape and just let it run till the end,

1438
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 1: pull it out and give it back to the film guys, thinking, oh,

1439
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 1: these guys know think I watched film. And I found

1440
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 1: out later from Tom Fermstad and some of the other

1441
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 1: guys they said, oh, we just made that. We had

1442
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:56,520
Speaker 1: no idea if you guys watched film and um. But yeah,

1443
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: if you're an NFL player, you're you're putting in twenty

1444
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,719
Speaker 1: thirty hours a week of film work. Moral of the story, kids,

1445
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 1: watch film. Prepare yourself for the test. If you ever

1446
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,680
Speaker 1: walked into a class and you ain't steady and you

1447
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,759
Speaker 1: get that examine in front of you and you are lost,

1448
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 1: that's how you will feel on a football field. Yeah,

1449
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 1: unless you're Rob Grondcows. Kids, they just get an age,

1450
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 1: just show up and say what do we what's the

1451
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 1: test on today? Hey? And there's always a kid like

1452
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 1: that who can do that. Yeah. It just shows up

1453
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 1: during the week and then he's good to go for

1454
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 1: the test. I used to have I said, come here,

1455
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: do you mind doing my here? Give me the answers.

1456
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 1: Never no, never did that as shoot, that never happened.

1457
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 1: All right, when we come back, we will give you

1458
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 1: our final thoughts and the keys to victory for the Seahawks.

1459
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 1: That is next here on Hawks Live. Welcome back to

1460
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 1: Hawks Live every Thursday. I'm Michael Bumps along with Paul Moyer.

1461
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 1: Last segment of the day. On the sheet here it says,

1462
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: show recap, Final thoughts and keys, Show recap. I think

1463
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 1: we did our thing, Moyer. I think we had a

1464
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: good show. We did. It's always always fun. We have

1465
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 1: good time here. Look keys of the game on this one.

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Speaker 1: We could go the same route almost every week because

1467
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 1: usually it's turnovers things like that. I'm gonna go on

1468
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 1: a little different this time. And actually I think Robert

1469
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 1: Turbin may have said it in our pregame show last week.

1470
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 1: We got to sustain drives. We gotta start getting first

1471
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 1: downs offensively. If you go and look last week, I

1472
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 1: don't think we had a drive. I remember it now.

1473
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 1: We had two drives over two minutes. Two two of

1474
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 1: those were four minute drives both times we punt it.

1475
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 1: Those are two longest drives. Everything else was under two minutes.

1476
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 1: You know, not a lot of first downs on AAM.

1477
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 1: I think we had seventeen eighteen first downs last week

1478
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 1: versus you know, thirty two thirty three. That can't happen

1479
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,719
Speaker 1: in this league. And again, I love the big play,

1480
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:49,600
Speaker 1: I love scoring, but you start looking at what Tennessee

1481
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 1: did to us defensively, started running. We got some long

1482
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 1: drive boom offenses off the field in a minute and

1483
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 1: a half. Defense got to go back out. Now, I'm

1484
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:01,600
Speaker 1: not putting it on the offense. That's not the offenses.

1485
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 1: Falter job, you know, the defense. But we've got us

1486
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 1: sustain drives. We gotta start eating some clock. We gotta

1487
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 1: get some first downs where their defense had a little

1488
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: bit more. And that's really what we haven't done in

1489
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,719
Speaker 1: the first two weeks. Yeah, I'm with you. Sustain those drives.

1490
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 1: Here are the scoring drives for us. Five plays fifty

1491
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 1: seven yards a minute, fifty eight three plays eighty three

1492
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 1: yards a minute, forty four two plays six yards, seven

1493
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 1: plays seventy five yards, three plays sixty six yards. And

1494
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: you look at nine of them over two minutes, none

1495
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 1: of them over two minutes. Now, the Tennessee Titans, man,

1496
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 1: they took control of this name. Eight plays eighty yards

1497
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 1: four minutes twenty three seconds. How many twelve plays sixty

1498
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: eight yards three minutes forty four seconds you hit it

1499
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 1: on the head. Thirty three first downs to the Hawks

1500
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,719
Speaker 1: seven team. You have to have the ball to control

1501
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 1: the temple of the game, and I think the Hawks

1502
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 1: offense can do that. They showed that the first week. Right,

1503
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 1: there's a quick game. You can check stuff down, get

1504
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 1: things going. We don't want to eliminate the big plays.

1505
01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 1: We're not saying, oh no, we don't want that sixty

1506
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 1: nine yard touchdown from Locket or that sixty two f

1507
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 1: Freddie Swayne. We're just saying, look, in between those big plays,

1508
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 1: let's play three or four drives together to really wear

1509
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 1: this defense down like the Titans that and the Hogs

1510
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 1: have a running back who can wear defense down thirty

1511
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 1: two runs hard, let him touch the peel. Yeah, no,

1512
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 1: I agree, there is You know, there's a human element

1513
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 1: to this that people sometimes forget this video game. These

1514
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 1: are human beings and it's a physical game. And if

1515
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 1: you if you're an offense and you're wearing them out

1516
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 1: and get these seven, eight play drives or twelve play drives, man,

1517
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 1: it's taxing on a defense. We're tired. And then you

1518
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 1: go to sit back down and it's you know, it's warm,

1519
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 1: you know it's still we're still got some some weather

1520
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 1: going on. You get to have a little drinking if

1521
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 1: you gotta go back out there. Even though you just

1522
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 1: you scored. I'm happy you scored. Yeah, Mike, I am,

1523
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 1: but I need a break because I'm physically I'm starting

1524
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 1: to get get tired. And I've said this forever, it's

1525
01:14:55,439 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 1: really important to get first downs. If last week we

1526
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 1: were getting we were we weren't getting first downs on

1527
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 1: mixed downs. And if you're coming up third down all

1528
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 1: the time, you go first down, second down, third down. Man,

1529
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 1: it's just the law of averages. You can convert on

1530
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 1: fifty percent of your third downs. But at some point

1531
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 1: and that drive, I'm off the field. So I need

1532
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 1: to start getting eight nine play drives with one or

1533
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:22,719
Speaker 1: two third down opportunities, because if I've got four or five,

1534
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 1: likelihood of us scoring is really difficult. It's just not

1535
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 1: the odds aren't in your favor, and you speak up

1536
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 1: third downs. The Hawks for four for twelve on third

1537
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 1: downs not great. They never really have been a great

1538
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 1: third down team, at least not in the last two

1539
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 1: or three seasons. So they need to clean that up. Now.

1540
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 1: The Vikings they're going to run the football. They're gonna

1541
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: run a bit different. They're gonna run some power, They're

1542
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 1: gonna run some trap. They're gonna lead with their tight ends.

1543
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 1: They're gonna lead with their fullback. They have the ability

1544
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 1: to play hard nosed football in the bots and spread

1545
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 1: it up, spread it out on the outside with Thelon

1546
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 1: and Osbourne and Justin Jefferson. I mean, we said it

1547
01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,640
Speaker 1: last week, Paul, and I don't think people really believe us.

1548
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:01,640
Speaker 1: We're gonna staying again this week. This is going to

1549
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 1: be a tough game. And you're going to Minnesota. You

1550
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, it's their first home game. They are going

1551
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:09,679
Speaker 1: to be ready to go. Yeah, they've got some heat

1552
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 1: on him, Zimmer, their head coach. Normally, I always say

1553
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 1: I want to play a team who's lost. I'd rather

1554
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 1: play a team who's lost a game than won a game.

1555
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 1: And if the reason for me is if you've won,

1556
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 1: you're playing well. If you've lost, you're usually not. I'd

1557
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 1: rather play the team who's not playing well. Now, sometimes

1558
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:27,599
Speaker 1: there's some adjustments that come into play there. This one

1559
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,680
Speaker 1: is a little different because they're O and two and

1560
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: they are a wounded animal, and they are at home.

1561
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 1: They can't lose this game. They lose this game, Minnesota,

1562
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 1: they're other player. You go on three the statistics on

1563
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:42,679
Speaker 1: that's crazy. So the Seacus have to play the best

1564
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 1: game of the year. It I don't know if it's

1565
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 1: the Yeah. Actually I wouldn't even say it's a tie

1566
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 1: with Indy. I think it's a similar team, maybe a

1567
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:55,799
Speaker 1: better quarterback than Wentz. But you know, they got skilled

1568
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 1: people that are a challenge. Like last week. Last week

1569
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 1: they had a ton of skill position. You look at

1570
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 1: Minnesota across the board, wide receivers, running backs, quarterback. You know,

1571
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 1: we'll see if they can protect them. And if we are,

1572
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 1: we've got to start playing some man to man. We

1573
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 1: gotta start taking away the short stuff. Yea. If we're

1574
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 1: gonna keep playing three deep zone and teams are as

1575
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 1: hot as they are throwing the ball and dinking and

1576
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 1: Duncan and not even dinking Dune but hitting seven eight

1577
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 1: yard place. I think Bobby Wagner had ten tackles in

1578
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 1: the passing game last year. So they're working that middle

1579
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 1: of the field and if you're dropping in the zone,

1580
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 1: we're giving some of that up. So we're gonna have

1581
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 1: to tighten some things up. Play a man to man.

1582
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 1: Just play with play with confidence on defense. And this

1583
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 1: game is crucial. Man. After this game, you got the

1584
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 1: Niners at the Niners and the Rams come into town.

1585
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 1: You get into the division. You have to get into

1586
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 1: these division games feeling good about yourself and you have

1587
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 1: to get into these these division games correcting a lot

1588
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 1: of your wrongs. Russell Wilson has played some good football.

1589
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 1: My minus the overtime, they only had the ball once

1590
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 1: in the third quarter. You got to tip your head

1591
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 1: off to the Titans. They really just controlled that game.

1592
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 1: Russell had a chance to win the game, he just

1593
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 1: didn't do it. Doesn't mean the magic is gone this

1594
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:08,600
Speaker 1: The NFL guys are going to make play. So I

1595
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 1: just want to see this offense continue to grow. And

1596
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,640
Speaker 1: like you said, this defense has tightened a couple of

1597
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,719
Speaker 1: things up. We need some more plays from those defensive linemen.

1598
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 1: I think the first week we saw Ratime Green, we

1599
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 1: saw Darryl Taylor. Those guys kind of disappeared week two.

1600
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 1: They're young, They're still finding their way. I like when

1601
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 1: Rabel is calling names out that aren't Locket, DK Russell

1602
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 1: and Jamal Adams, so Everett dis Lee, Carson yeah, yeah,

1603
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 1: I agree with that. We're spreading the football. It didn't

1604
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,679
Speaker 1: feel that way last week. It's as comfortable as Russell

1605
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 1: look the first week. I don't want to say he

1606
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 1: looked uncomfortable. Last week, he just didn't look for whatever reason.

1607
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was. You know, to me,

1608
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 1: Tennessee was a better defensive line than I thought they.

1609
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 1: Damian Lewis was hurt. I mean, you go and look

1610
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 1: at the first two plays. You know, Dwayne Brown got

1611
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,679
Speaker 1: you know, pushed back. The next play, Damian Lewis got

1612
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 1: pushed back and Damien was hurt. I'm hoping he's healthy

1613
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 1: because that I think that's a big factor in our

1614
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 1: run game. We try to run to the left side

1615
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 1: where we need Damian Lewis healthy, and you know, if

1616
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 1: you get him Dwayne Brown together both healthy, we should

1617
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 1: be able to run the football. I like that. I

1618
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 1: like that Alex Collins should get a few more touches

1619
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 1: this week. You know that one big run he had,

1620
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 1: It was a great tackle by the defender there, but

1621
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 1: he had a nice run. D s Gridge is going

1622
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 1: to get healthy, and then I think offensively, you get

1623
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:33,640
Speaker 1: those tight ends back in the game. I'm not worried, Um,

1624
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 1: but I'm a I'm a big, a bit anxious for

1625
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: this game. I want to there's some things that I

1626
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 1: want to see and I have to see to make

1627
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 1: me have the same feelings I had week one. Yeah,

1628
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 1: I'm not worried. Look Seahawks back. I mean, what's Russell

1629
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 1: Wilson's record after a loss? Are you kidding me? I

1630
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 1: mean it's it's off the charts. He's gonna play well.

1631
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna play better because we have things to clean up.

1632
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 1: And that is the one thing about a loss. You

1633
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 1: go back and fix things. You know, when we're winning,

1634
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 1: sometimes you we're good. You know, quite self scout is

1635
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 1: as hard as sorry. Pete, if you're listening, I know

1636
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 1: you guys self scout, but you don't worry about something

1637
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:12,800
Speaker 1: that may be working. Um, So we're gonna crack some things.

1638
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 1: We're not gonna play youthful mistakes this week, and I

1639
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:19,639
Speaker 1: expect a nice win for us, no youthful mistakes. If

1640
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 1: we do that, there should be a W in the

1641
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 1: win column. All right, Well, home, bump, I'm gonna cut

1642
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 1: you off before we get out of here. Paul, you

1643
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: talked about record after loss, so Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson

1644
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 1: has a seven point seven nine one winning percentage after

1645
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,679
Speaker 1: an in season loss. It's the best since the nineteen

1646
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 1: seventy merger. He's thirty four nine following a loss. That's

1647
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,560
Speaker 1: pretty good. That goes back a long way too. That

1648
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 1: it's a double well, it's let's put this way. If

1649
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 1: you were in Vegas, that'd be a good bet. Yeah,

1650
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:51,799
Speaker 1: good bet, good bet, all right, bet on these Hawks

1651
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 1: before we get out of here. Special things that Matthew Coller,

1652
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 1: Carree Hyder, and John Clayton for joining the show. Our

1653
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 1: board operated DJ Wilder and execut the producer Nasa Choby.

1654
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,639
Speaker 1: The Seahawks pregame show was live this Sunday starting at

1655
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 1: ten am. Until next time. I'm your host, Michael bump

1656
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,680
Speaker 1: Is with my guy Paul Moyer. We'll be back to

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01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 1: next We'll be back next week right here on the

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Speaker 1: Hawks Live