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Speaker 1: So I was on Twitter today I guess it's now X,

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Speaker 1: saw a tweet from my friend. He's been on the show,

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Speaker 1: Sean Parnell. Of course you know him as retired Army

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Speaker 1: infantry captain with the elite tenth Mountain Division, spent a

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Speaker 1: someone who understands war, who understands the consequences of war.

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Speaker 1: He was tweeting about that every day the IDF delays

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Speaker 1: its ground invasion, it gives amass a chance to lay

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Speaker 1: the Biden administration has been working to delay that ground invasion.

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Speaker 1: So I asked him to come on because I wanted

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Speaker 1: him to walk us through the consequences of delay and

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Speaker 1: also why the Biden administration is delaying that ground invasion. Also,

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Speaker 1: as someone who understands war, I wanted to talk to

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Speaker 1: the consequences of war, and also just talk about the

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Speaker 1: disgusting fact that so many people lack moral clarity at

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Speaker 1: a time where it is abundantly clear that we saw

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Speaker 1: evil and that evil was somemas. So why can't people

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Speaker 1: say that? Why are they trying to both sides this?

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense to me. We're also going to

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Speaker 1: talk about the southern border and the concerns that terrorism

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Speaker 1: to talk about with someone who really understands this stuff

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Speaker 1: in a meaningful way. He's also just an American hero.

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Speaker 1: You know, received two Bronze Stars, one for Valor and

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Speaker 1: the Purple Heart as well. So I think you're going

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Speaker 1: to enjoy this conversation with my friend Sean Parnell stay

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Speaker 1: with us. So, Sean, it's great to have you back

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Speaker 1: on the show. You know when people stay hero, you're

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Speaker 1: actually an American hero. But we were talking offline and

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Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta have you on to bring

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Speaker 2: Oh, of course, you're welcome. It's great to be back.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, Sean your tweeting, Well, first of all,

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Speaker 1: what a scary time to be alive. Did you ever

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Speaker 1: think things would deteriorate this fast under Biden.

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Speaker 3: You know, Lisa, Actually, yeah, I mean when I was

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Speaker 3: on the campaign trail in twenty twenty two running for

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Speaker 3: to dismantle and destroy the United States of America, what

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Speaker 3: exactly would you do differently than Joe Biden's doing right now?

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Speaker 3: I mean, right now, He's printing cash, creating record inflation,

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Speaker 3: He's created a war againstlaw enforcement. We're in the midst

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Speaker 3: because of the Democrats defund the police nonsense. The fact

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Speaker 3: Well, first, let me just tell you that, you know,

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Speaker 3: These were clearly Iranian funded terrorists, because you know, when

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Speaker 2: We go over three hundred and fifty.

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Speaker 2: These aren't. These aren't militants, these aren't gunmen. They're terrorists.

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Speaker 3: And it wasn't just a traditional military attack on traditional

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Speaker 2: That's not enough. All that does is.

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Speaker 3: That's how Republicans need to message this because frankly, there

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Speaker 3: Hamas anticipated this and knew that Israel was going to attack.

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Speaker 3: even date Lisa, every second that is delayed it makes

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Speaker 3: tactically untenable. Every day that passes, it gives Hamas an

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're gonna they're gonna be booby traps all

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Speaker 3: And this is just US military doctrine. This isn't Sean speaking,

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Speaker 3: This is how we train and fight. You can expect

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Speaker 3: So by delaying it diplomatically and talking out both sides

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Speaker 4: So is Joe? I totally see what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: It makes sense to me, you know, So Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: It's absolutely to delay. There's that, There's no question in

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Speaker 3: And if like, just look at what he said in

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Speaker 3: And and I've often wondered throughout my life because I

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Speaker 1: And it's not just the Biden administration. I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: They allow themselves to be fooled, like they conflate that.

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Speaker 2: have to.

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Speaker 3: It is possible, like I told you, to win a

434
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Speaker 3: fight and eradicate him most but they've got to be

435
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Speaker 3: have the military capability and the freedom from the international

436
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Speaker 3: community to be allowed to do it. And right now,

437
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Speaker 3: the second thing is the lynchpin to this entire operation.

438
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Speaker 3: So yes, Israel could go in and I've seen that

439
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Speaker 3: they have some like amazing like rubble bulldozer things that

440
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Speaker 3: you know, deflect RPGs and stuff like that. But it

441
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Speaker 3: it going in now means I hate to say it,

442
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Speaker 3: but it just means at least a thirty three percent

443
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Speaker 3: casualty rate for the IDF. And it all depends on.

444
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Speaker 3: Any time you plan a military tactical operation like this, Lisa,

445
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Speaker 3: you have to evaluate what they call the tactical risk

446
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 3: and does the end state mission objective outweigh the tactical risk?

447
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Speaker 3: And so Israel's going to have to ask themselves, Okay,

448
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Speaker 3: the objective is the mission is to eradicate Amos. If

449
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Speaker 3: we need to lose fifteen thousand Israelis to do it,

450
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Speaker 3: is that worth it? And that's a calculation that bb

451
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Speaker 3: Net and Yahoo in his government is going to have

452
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Speaker 3: to make, and it's a tragic one and I wish

453
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Speaker 3: they didn't have to do it because I think this

454
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Speaker 3: was completely this was a completely avoidable situation.

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Speaker 1: And that's just so depressed to hear it put out

456
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Speaker 1: that way. But it's truth, and the truth matters. You know,

457
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Speaker 1: we've had wide open borders for over two years under Biden.

458
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Speaker 1: We know that at least one hundred and sixty people

459
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Speaker 1: in the terror watch list were caught in twenty twenty

460
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Speaker 1: three alone. You know we're still in that year, so

461
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Speaker 1: ven number could grow. And who knows who has actually

462
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Speaker 1: been able to get in here because we've had so

463
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Speaker 1: many goadaways. The FBI director warning about terror attacks here.

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Speaker 4: I mean that seems inevitable.

465
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Speaker 3: It does, it does. And you know this is why

466
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Speaker 3: I say often like, learn to defend yourself. Find someone

467
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Speaker 3: to know this what they're doing. Learn to defend yourself,

468
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Speaker 3: learn to defend your home. If you have a family,

469
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Speaker 3: teach them what you learned. You might never need it,

470
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Speaker 3: and I hope that you never do. But if you

471
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Speaker 3: look at what happened in Israel, you have to assume

472
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Speaker 3: that because we've had wide open borders for three years

473
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Speaker 3: under Biden, right, and you've had six plus million people

474
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Speaker 3: will come across. And I think you look at what

475
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Speaker 3: happened just I mean, Fox News just broke yesterday at

476
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 3: nineteen Ranians and seventeen Syrians illegally crossed into the US

477
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Speaker 3: to order just last week, just last week. So if

478
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Speaker 3: you extrapolate that and you say that there's been six

479
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Speaker 3: plus million people over just this year alone, and then

480
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Speaker 3: look at how many people that have come across in

481
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Speaker 3: the last three years, there is absolutely, positively no doubt

482
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Speaker 3: that Hesbela and asymmetrics fats all around this world are

483
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Speaker 3: going to exploit the weakness at our southern border and

484
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Speaker 3: they're going to lay in waiting. And I mean this

485
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Speaker 3: has been well known intelligence for a long time that

486
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Speaker 3: if the United States got embroiled in an open conflict

487
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Speaker 3: with Iran, which could easily happen here in this situation

488
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Speaker 3: in Israel, because if Iran or HESBLA invades Israel from

489
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Speaker 3: the north, that triggers the War Powers Act and United

490
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Speaker 3: statesm is compelled to act in support of our ally

491
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Speaker 3: if we end up in an open conflict with Iran.

492
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Speaker 3: We know for a fact, and as you mentioned Christopher

493
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Speaker 3: Rae talked about yesterday, that the likelihood of domestic terrorist

494
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Speaker 3: attacks here in this country it's a real threat.

495
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Speaker 2: We know for a fact that.

496
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Speaker 3: There are a thousands of Hesibal operatives here, a sleeper

497
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Speaker 3: agents just waiting to conduct, facilitating conduct tacks here in

498
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Speaker 3: this country. Should we become embroidered a larger conflict with

499
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Speaker 3: the Roan, it's it's it's not a question of if

500
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 3: it will happen, but when and when that happens, you

501
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 3: have to be able to defend yourself full stop, because

502
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Speaker 3: the government and police they ain't coming to save you.

503
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Speaker 3: I hate to say it like that, but as you mentioned,

504
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 3: it's the truth. It's the name of your show. So

505
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 3: people need to know that information. They need to go

506
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Speaker 3: train themselves and defend themselves. Really find somebody knows what

507
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 3: the hell they're doing as well. But you've got to

508
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Speaker 3: do it. It's not a question of if.

509
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Speaker 2: But when.

510
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Speaker 3: I hope you never need it. But these attacks are

511
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Speaker 3: coming here, they just are. The enemy is already here.

512
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Speaker 4: Where is this conflict in the Middle East? Heading?

513
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

514
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Speaker 3: I think the escalatory possibilities for this war scare me,

515
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 3: and not frankly, the escal escalatory possibilities of the war

516
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 3: in Ukraine scares me as well. But I think if

517
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Speaker 3: Biden has his way, they you know, Israel stops.

518
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Speaker 2: They do not.

519
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 3: They don't conduct a ground invasion of Gaza. They fired

520
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 3: a few artillery rounds, they decimated Hamas targets, and they

521
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 3: just go back to business as usual, you know. And

522
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 3: that is and when I say that's going to perpetuate

523
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Speaker 3: the cycle of violence, it will because in another year

524
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Speaker 3: or so, there's gonna be another attack on Israel.

525
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Speaker 2: There's gonna be more rockets fired in Israel.

526
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Speaker 3: There could be more Israeli civilians said, But if if

527
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 3: I'm worried about the the Iran factor, I'm very worried

528
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Speaker 3: about Hesbela invading Israel from the north. I'm worried about

529
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 3: Iran openly funding and operating in support of Hezbela because

530
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Speaker 3: that would trigger an escalatory component to this fight that frankly,

531
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Speaker 3: our military is just not ready for. I mean, you

532
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 3: saw Janet Yellen say, well, you know, she's like so

533
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 3: out there and who the hell even talks like this?

534
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Speaker 2: But we could certainly afford to wars like, well, what

535
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 2: the hell world she lives?

536
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Speaker 3: And I don't know because with thirty three trillion dollars

537
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 3: in debt, like we're broke. I mean, what a ridiculous statement. That,

538
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 3: doesn't it just highlight how these people live in a

539
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 3: world are their own. But you look at what's happening

540
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 3: in Ukraine, and you look at what's happening in Israel,

541
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Speaker 3: and it's not difficult to see how the dominoes could

542
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 3: fall very easily. And I hate when people say World

543
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 3: War three because it's become cliche at this point, but

544
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 3: you could see very easily how countries could align themselves

545
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Speaker 3: along like sort of allied access of evil type thing,

546
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Speaker 3: and we can find ourselves embroiled and a conflict that's

547
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Speaker 3: much larger than the ones that we have now. And

548
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Speaker 3: that's scared the hell out of me because my oldest

549
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 3: kid is sixteen, and in the next couple of years

550
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 3: they could be fighting in these wars and there's no

551
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Speaker 3: way in hell I want that.

552
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Speaker 1: I think the problem with well, there's a lot of

553
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Speaker 1: problems with democrats. I think inherently after well, I know,

554
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Speaker 1: I was like once I said that, I'm like, well, actually,

555
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: we don't have enough time. But you know, I do

556
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Speaker 1: think that there's inherently a moral and an evil issue.

557
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Speaker 1: But also I think that you just have a lot

558
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Speaker 1: of people government that are leftists who have never actually

559
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Speaker 1: had to do in life.

560
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Speaker 4: You know, they just think in theories.

561
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Speaker 1: They're like they're like activists and academics, and so they've

562
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Speaker 1: never actually had to like carry something out to its

563
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: end objective and so you know, they thinking these theories

564
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: but not in practicality, and that's why they're governing. Governing

565
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: always fails, you know, like look at Biden, for instance,

566
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Speaker 1: he's been in government for like fifty years. He's never

567
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: actually had to accomplish anything. He's never actually had to

568
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: have real accountability, he's never actually had to really bear

569
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Speaker 1: out the consequences of his decisions. And so you've got

570
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of people running government who don't actually know

571
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Speaker 1: how to do anything in practicality.

572
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Speaker 3: But you think about it, though, they're pretty damn good

573
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 3: at destroying our country.

574
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Speaker 2: Because good at that, you know, you think about it.

575
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Speaker 3: Though, like they they're so afraid to speak with moral

576
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Speaker 3: clarity about Israeli men, women, children, elderly babies being murdered.

577
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 3: But boy, you know, George Floyd died. Let's turn down

578
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 3: twenty cities in America. Boy, if you say a man

579
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Speaker 3: cannot be a woman, we're coming after you. If that

580
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 3: professor at Cornell, you know, instead of saying that the

581
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 3: Hamas attack on Israel was energizing and got them basically

582
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 3: psyched up. And I'm paraphrasing on that last part, but

583
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 3: if he said a man can't be a woman, they

584
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 3: would have fired him on the spot. So they're not

585
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 3: afraid to speak out about this LGBTQ element o p

586
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 3: you know, like all of these other things that are

587
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 3: morally ambiguous at best, but when there's issues of real

588
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 3: moral clarity, life and death stuff, they equivocate, and it

589
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 3: sickens me. So that's why I think like they're policies

590
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Speaker 3: when I say that they want to knock America down

591
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Speaker 3: a peg, and I think they see Israel as a

592
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Speaker 3: little mini America.

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Speaker 2: I think they.

594
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Speaker 3: Truly believe that the world would be a better place

595
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Speaker 3: if America was not its sole superpower. And that scares me.

596
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 3: And it's high time that Republicans wake up. And I

597
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 3: say this often, and you know, I believe that the

598
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Speaker 3: Democrats are an existential threat to this country.

599
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: I just do.

600
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Speaker 3: And and that's why Republics better recognize this threat for

601
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 3: what it is and get their get their house and order,

602
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 3: no pun intended like that.

603
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Speaker 1: But they don't seem to, you know, we seem to

604
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Speaker 1: be a complete disarray as a party. Which is it's like,

605
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: is there like where the hell is there any leadership

606
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: like anywhere? You know, it's just, you know, it's just

607
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,479
Speaker 1: it's really disheartening and depressing to watch, you know. So

608
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Speaker 1: I want to ask you this question as someone because

609
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Speaker 1: I think often, you know, we like people talk about war,

610
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: but very few people understand the consequences of what war

611
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Speaker 1: actually looks like. And you are one of the few

612
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Speaker 1: that do in a real and meaningful way, more than

613
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Speaker 1: you know, the vast majority, more than the vast majority

614
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Speaker 1: of Americans, maybe like one percent of you know? And

615
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Speaker 1: so what should as someone who understands the consequences of war?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: What should the United States do in regard to Israel?

618
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Speaker 1: You know, how much support should we lend? What does

619
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Speaker 1: that look like? How far do we want to get involved?

620
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Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think? What's your assessment?

621
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Speaker 3: I think that we should continue to support Israel militarily

622
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Speaker 3: and give them what they need to fight this fight,

623
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Speaker 3: but not at the expense of our own military and

624
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Speaker 3: our own defense supplies.

625
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Speaker 2: Right.

626
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Speaker 3: It scares me when we've sent all our one to

627
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 3: five to five artillery shells to Ukraine and we don't

628
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 3: have any here at home to defend ourselves. That worries me.

629
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Speaker 3: So I think it's possible to support Israel given what

630
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Speaker 3: they need, while keeping an eye on what we have

631
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 3: here at home and making sure we're good to go.

632
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Speaker 3: And here's another important component of this. Israel is not

633
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Speaker 3: asking for American boots on the ground. I don't support

634
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Speaker 3: American boots on the ground for many different reasons, but

635
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Speaker 3: Israel's not asking for it. And I think in terms

636
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Speaker 3: of Israel's legitimacy in the region, insofar as house Saudi Arabia, Jordan,

637
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,959
Speaker 3: Egypt looks at them, they want to see Israel as

638
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 3: a country they can stand on their own, which would help,

639
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 3: I think, normalize relationships between those Middle East countries and Israel.

640
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Speaker 3: And this is also partly the endgame for hamasque they

641
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 3: don't want a norm realization of Israel relations between Saudi

642
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 3: Arabia and Israel, Jordan and Israel, Egypt and Israel and

643
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Speaker 3: those countries like that, because I think it puts, you know, Palestine, Gaza,

644
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 3: Iran makes some play second fiddle and it's actually an

645
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: existential throughout to Iran when Israel's working with those countries.

646
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Speaker 3: So I think Iran, I think Hamas wants to disrupt

647
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Speaker 3: all of that, but I mean certainly, I mean the

648
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Speaker 3: six billion dollars in aid that we gave to Iran

649
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 3: should have been should have been taken back yesterday. I

650
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Speaker 3: think all the Hamas leadership that is living in five

651
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Speaker 3: star hotels. I mean they're responsible for the death of

652
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Speaker 3: American citizens. Why haven't we given an ultimatum to Cutter

653
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 3: and basically said, you've got Hamas leadership living in these

654
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Speaker 3: in these hotels, Like, if you don't extradite them to

655
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Speaker 3: America so that they can be brought to justice for

656
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Speaker 3: the death of American citizens, We're going to sanction the

657
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 3: hell out of you. Another thing is American energy independence,

658
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 3: because you can bet that the Straits of Horror Moves,

659
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 3: as this conflict drags on, is going to be leveraged

660
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 3: against us. It doesn't have to be that way. I mean,

661
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 3: we can be and that energy export. We've got everything

662
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 3: that we need here. So I think it's important that

663
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 3: we that we can that the Biden administration reverse his

664
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Speaker 3: disastrous war in American energy. So he doesn't have us,

665
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 3: you know, he doesn't have us at the whims of

666
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 3: the Iranians in the Straits of Horror moves. That's closed, right,

667
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 3: So I think there are lots of things that we

668
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 3: can do without getting involved in the actual conflict. Boots

669
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 3: on the ground Americans. Also, last thing I'll say is

670
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 3: that one of the things that's concerned me over the

671
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 3: last week or so is I mean, I as someone

672
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 3: who's seen war like you will and been on the

673
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 3: twenty years of failure in Iraq and Afghanistan, I am

674
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 3: not somebody that we ever advocate for American boots on

675
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 3: the ground unless it's one thousand percent absolutely necessary and

676
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 3: there's no other way around it. But we can't be

677
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 3: so isolationists in this country that we are not willing

678
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 3: to evac our own people. And you know, American hostages

679
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 3: are trapped, Americans are trapped in Israel. It is not incumbent.

680
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 3: It's not the responsibility of American citizens to go over there,

681
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 3: like John Wayne and Ebak our own people because the

682
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 3: government just sucks. Like we have to prioritize rescuing our

683
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 3: own people so that we don't have a repeat. So

684
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 3: I think a focus on those three things moving forward,

685
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 3: for those three or four things moving forward is the

686
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 3: right place for America. But we'll see what happens, because

687
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 3: the Biden administration just has an uncanny ability to screw

688
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 3: things up.

689
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say, it seemed you know

690
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: it was going it was going was you were going

691
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: through the list, I'm like, Okay, Biden seems to be

692
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: doing the opposite.

693
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Speaker 4: Biden seems to be doing the opposite. That sure doesn't

694
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Speaker 4: sound like common sense, but Biden's doing the opposite. My god,

695
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 4: you know, I love. I don't know if you saw

696
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 4: four Seasons Doha. I can't remember.

697
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Speaker 1: The Hamas's uh one of their leaders, who's staying in guitar,

698
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Speaker 1: but four Seasons Doha was like, he's not staying here.

699
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Speaker 4: Just want everyone to know, like we're not housing them,

700
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Speaker 4: he's not staying at our.

701
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Speaker 1: Hotel, which you know, good, you know, but but shame,

702
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: shame whichever hotel is allowing someone like to stay there,

703
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: you know. And then also you've got you know, the

704
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 1: King of Jordan saying that they're not going to take

705
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: these Gaza refugees. Egypt, which is neighbors with Gaza, is

706
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Speaker 1: like fortifying their borders not you know. But yet we've

707
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 1: got leftists here who want us to accept these Gazan refugees,

708
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 1: who support terrorism. For the larger part, I mean, obviously

709
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: you can't equivocally say all, but we've at least you know,

710
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Speaker 1: a majority support for Hamasa and pull and pulling mm hmm.

711
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, the United States shouldn't shouldn't accept one single

712
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 3: refugee from from Gaza period, full stop. I'm tired of

713
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 3: allowing people into this country that despise this country. And

714
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 3: if you look at you look at what's happening on

715
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 3: our southern border.

716
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 2: Lisa and we talked.

717
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 3: A little bit about it already, but there is a

718
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 3: tidal wave of human suffering happening at our southern order

719
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 3: right now. What it does is it preys upon that

720
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: human suffering is uniquely, uniquely focused on women and children.

721
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Speaker 3: It's empowered the cartels. It's allowed fentanyl to pour in

722
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 3: this country. And by the way, they're making fentanyl to

723
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 3: look like candy now to target our children. And if

724
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 3: you think that's not an asymmetric attack on this country

725
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 3: just because of the addicted qualities of fensanyl, you have

726
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,439
Speaker 3: another thing coming. Like throw if you're listening to this show,

727
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 3: throw Kensington, Philadelphia into your Google search and.

728
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: See what it looks like. That's that's how fast.

729
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 3: Sentinel can tear through your community. It make it look

730
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 3: like an episode of The Walking Dead. You think the

731
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 3: stuff is manufactured in China, China is working with the

732
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 3: cartels in Mexico. They're shipping fentanyl across our southern border.

733
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 3: It's highly addictive and it's decimating our communities. That is

734
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 3: absolutely an asymmetric attack on our country, all made possible

735
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 3: by our wide open southern border. If you think countries

736
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 3: like Iran and Hesbla and other people, aren't you capitalizing

737
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 3: on that, You're wrong. But I'm tired of importing people

738
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Speaker 3: into this country. And also, here's another thing, Lisa. What

739
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 3: gets lost in the AUSO on this debate about immigration

740
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 3: in the open border is this fact the United States

741
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 3: of America is the most generous country on the face

742
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 3: of the planet. We let two to three million legal

743
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 3: immigrants into this country every single year, every year. No

744
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 3: other country on the face of the planet does that.

745
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 3: So the idea that we are obligated to take more

746
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 3: than that illegally is sickening to me. And the left

747
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 3: us such a good job at conflating I llegal immigration

748
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 3: with legal immigration. But the fact of the matter is

749
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 3: Republicans consistently get their butt kicked in the court of

750
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 3: public opinion on this because they don't know how to

751
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 3: talk about the issue. We're a generous country, We already

752
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 3: let millions of people into this country legally. Allowing our

753
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 3: border to be opened, just from a policy standpoint, is

754
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 3: profoundly unfair to the people who come here. Legally, Yes,

755
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 3: we want to be a country that takes refugees, Yes

756
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 3: we want people to come here, but they've got to assimilate.

757
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 3: They've got a pledge to support American values. Doesn't mean

758
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 3: they have to discard every cultural aspect of where they

759
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: came from, but it has to be important to them

760
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 3: to be an American. The Constitution has to be important

761
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 3: to them. Otherwise, in every major city in this country,

762
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 3: you're gonna have no go zones like you have in London.

763
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 3: And that ain't gonna work for anyone here because it's

764
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 3: fundamentally anti American. But that's what the left ones.

765
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: Yep.

766
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Speaker 1: And you know, I think there is a a terror

767
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: attack just the other day in Brussels, but and I

768
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: think there was one in France, and then there was

769
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: a stabbing and I believe was it Beijing right recently?

770
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean look like we worked Look, we worked

771
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 3: with with the Afghans. Okay, we were in Afghans or

772
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 3: tribal right, Islam didn't come to Afghanistan for you know,

773
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 3: within the last one hundred years since we since we've

774
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 3: been there, right, So it's this isn't necessarily this isn't

775
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 3: a talk about Muslim or Islam or the religion or

776
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: anything else. It's just cultural differences, okay. And I'm tired

777
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 3: of the moral relativist position that, oh, you know, it's

778
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 3: just how they are, Like it's okay to rape children,

779
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 3: It's just how their culture is. It's how they've always been.

780
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 3: I just say, like, absolutely not. Western culture is better

781
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 3: than that, and it is better than that, and it

782
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 3: will always be better than that. We should not be

783
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 3: the same to say it. You know, like some of

784
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 3: the things. Even the best people in Afghanistan, the people

785
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 3: that work with us the most, the people that we

786
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 3: had great diplomatic relationships, there are times where we'd roll

787
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 3: into their village to meet with them on diplomatic relationships,

788
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 3: and they're like, wait a second, No, No, you shouldn't

789
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 3: bury that woman up to her neck and stone or

790
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 3: to death because she dared leave the house. Like I'm sorry.

791
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 3: If you're not willing to leave that aspective of your

792
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 3: culture behind when you come here, then you shouldn't come here.

793
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

794
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 3: I call me whatever you want, but those things A

795
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 3: fundamental free American liberal democracy republic is diametrically opposed to

796
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 3: whatever I just explained to you that stuff doesn't belong

797
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 3: in America. And I'm tired of people equivocating and saying

798
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 3: that's just their culture, if it's right for them, it's

799
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 3: how they've always been. No, there is a right and

800
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 3: wrong in this world, and Western culture is just better

801
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 3: than everywhere else.

802
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: I agree with you, and I wish that we could

803
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Speaker 1: get back to that sort of clarity of thought.

804
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 4: And it's really what I think.

805
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: What's wild to me is a lot of the conversation

806
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: we have had today is you know, common sense, and

807
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: yet just basic common sense just cannot be I mean,

808
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: cannot be grasped anymore.

809
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 3: Right.

810
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: It's like you would you know, I don't know, you

811
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: would hope that it's common sense, as you just point

812
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: out to not let people into the United States who

813
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: think that you know, stoning something right.

814
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 4: It's like you would think at the base line.

815
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you're brilliant, but you you would think of

816
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 1: the base line that like people would be like, oh, okay, yeah,

817
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: that makes sense, and yet we find ourselves here and

818
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: so it's like, I just don't what is ever going

819
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: to get through to these people.

820
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 4: I guess I'll tell you.

821
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you a couple of things. You see AOC

822
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Speaker 3: and I've referenced her once already, and I'm not trying

823
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 3: to pick on her.

824
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 2: But okay, yes you.

825
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 4: Can get on her. I don't care. I don't like.

826
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Speaker 3: I mean, she's out there, she's out well. I mean,

827
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Speaker 3: first of all, she throws together these gre words and

828
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 3: this crazy word salad, thinking that it makes her sound

829
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 3: smart concordantly vis a V. I think we have to

830
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 3: have a conversation. I was in grad school. That's how

831
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 3: these dumbasses talk. Excuse my language. It just makes me

832
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 3: sick to my scum as stomach, These educated nitwits who

833
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 3: can't see with moral clarity.

834
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Speaker 2: She's just socking about well. I think that you know

835
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 2: it should shutting off water? Is that a bridge too far?

836
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 2: And collective punishment blah blah blah.

837
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Speaker 3: It's like, without mentioning that Harmas dug up all the

838
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 3: water pipes so that they could be used as rocket

839
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 3: tubes to fire at Israel. Gee, I wonder why the

840
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 3: people of Gaza don't have water.

841
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 2: Maybe it's because Harmas dug up all the water pipes.

842
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 2: So you see what I'm.

843
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 3: Saying like it's in Republicans. I don't know what it

844
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 3: is about the Republican Party that prevents them from speaking

845
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 3: with moral clarity about this in the same way that

846
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 3: I'm talking to you. I don't know what it is.

847
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 3: But I'll tell you one thing that the voters that

848
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 3: are based that our party it's undeniable. Yet there's so

849
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 3: many people in our party when they run they don't

850
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 3: get this. But authenticity is the coin of the realm.

851
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 3: It's not about being a people pleaser and promising everybody everything.

852
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 3: Beware of the politician Democrat or Democrat or Republican who

853
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 3: you'd say, well, I agree with everything this person says,

854
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 3: they're not.

855
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: Being honest with you.

856
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 3: In fact, one of the things that I said in

857
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 3: the Campantra all the time is the one thing that

858
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 3: I can promise you is that you'll not We're not

859
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 3: always going to agree, but you're always going to dawn

860
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 3: one know exactly where I stand. And and again that

861
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily lit doesn't mean we have to agree.

862
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 2: Who says we have to.

863
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 3: But Republicans and you and I have talked about this before, Lisa,

864
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Speaker 3: they are so about being in the popular club and

865
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Speaker 3: being ingratiated to the media and somehow using their their

866
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 3: politics or being a servant politicians a springboard into celebrity,

867
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Speaker 3: and I'm tired of it. If you're running for political

868
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 3: office at the local, state and federal level, you go

869
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 3: into that thinking that you are going to be reviled.

870
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Speaker 3: And that's a good place to be if the media

871
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 3: thinks of you in that way, and you have got

872
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 3: to be unafraid to lockhorns with these mouth breathing morons

873
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 3: who just spew leftist talking points left and right, and

874
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 3: our party for whatever it is, Lisa's you know. And

875
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Speaker 3: by the way, there are notable exceptions to this. I'm

876
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Speaker 3: not just blanketing all Republicans, right or some great great Republicans,

877
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 3: but by a large like our party wants to be

878
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 3: a part of the popular kids club.

879
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: Just drives me crazy.

880
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 3: And this is what I think prevents our party from

881
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 3: going on offense and carrying the damn ball down the

882
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 3: field and scoring a touchdown like what's happening in the

883
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 3: House of Representatives right now. Lisa is a perfect example

884
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 3: of that. It's the only legislative body that we control,

885
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 3: yet we are in complete disarray.

886
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 2: War broke out in Israel.

887
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 3: Our ally needs our help, and we can't even come

888
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 3: to a consensus on who do elect as a Speaker

889
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 3: of the House. It's a microcosm of all the issues

890
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 3: with our party right now. The Democrats don't have these

891
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 3: issue because if you watch Star Trek, they're like the Borg.

892
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 3: You know, a Democrat in southern California is no different

893
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 3: than a Democrat in New York, is no different than

894
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 3: a Democrat in southern Florida. They're all exactly the same.

895
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 3: They all vote exactly the same. But the same is

896
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 3: not true of a Republican in southern California versus a

897
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 3: Republican in New York, Republican in Florida. They're all vastly different.

898
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 3: Because our party is a party of intellectual diversity. We're

899
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 3: actually the party of we the people. The Democrats are

900
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 3: the party of they the people.

901
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: But in so far as.

902
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 3: Recognizing the Democrat as an existential threat, like as we

903
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 3: continue to tear down our institutions, you know who's united

904
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 3: ready to pick up the pieces and put it back

905
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 3: together in their image, the Democrats and their mission. When

906
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 3: they talk about fundamentally transforming this country, it's tearing it

907
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 3: down brick by bick because in order to fundamentally transform something,

908
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 3: you have to first tear it down. So the Republicans

909
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 3: just don't reckon, they don't. So many people just don't

910
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 3: recognize the cultural moment that we're in and it's putting

911
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 3: both our party and our country in danger.

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Speaker 1: Well, and it's like I'm fine with Like I actually

913
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Speaker 1: I supported what Republicans were doing in the initial speaker

914
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: fight because they had clear objective. I think I thought

915
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Speaker 1: those objectives were worthy and it was a worthy goal,

916
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: and they're pushing things in the direction that you know

917
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: they wanted. But you know, this seems to have just

918
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: blown it up for the stake of blowing it up

919
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 1: without any alternative plan. And for me, that is just chaotic.

920
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: That is not leadership. That makes us look like we're

921
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: in complete disarray, and it completely disregards the fact that

922
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: we barely have a majority in the House, and so

923
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: it just it defies logic, it defies common sense, and

924
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: I think that we look like a bunch of clowns.

925
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: Well you know you look.

926
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Speaker 3: Yes, It's frustrating to me because I don't like, you know,

927
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Speaker 3: as a team, right, if you're on a football team

928
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 3: and you're taking the plays that you come up with

929
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 3: in secret in the huddle, and then you go tell

930
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Speaker 3: the opposing team what your play is. You're not going

931
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 3: to farewell. Republicans hang their dirty laundry out there to

932
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,919
Speaker 3: dry for everyone to see. And what I keep coming

933
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 3: back to is this the whole Like, oh McCarthy, McCarthy's

934
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 3: a rhino. Oh my gosh, he's terrible, he's But like,

935
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Speaker 3: don't you think that if McCarthy true and this look,

936
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Speaker 3: I what I would vote for Jim Jordan in a

937
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Speaker 3: second as speaker at the House. Okay, so this isn't

938
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Speaker 3: like me defending Kevin McCarthy, just me like putting this

939
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 3: out there for people to think about. But don't you

940
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Speaker 3: think that if McCarthy was a rhino like many you

941
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 3: know of the eight Republicans and then like they love

942
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 3: to overuse the term rhino, but the eight Republicans who

943
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 3: were against him and opposed him, don't you think that

944
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 3: if he were really a rhino, don't you think the

945
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 3: Dems would fight to keep him? Like if he really

946
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 3: was working with the Democrats behind closed doors, the why

947
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 3: did the Democrats vote to get rid of him? So

948
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 3: clearly he wasn't a rhino. Clearly he was effective at

949
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 3: what he did. And I'm like, look, you look at

950
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 3: like Kevin McCarthy. You know it took fifteen or sixteen votes,

951
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 3: so a year ago, like you said, and I right,

952
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Speaker 3: I supported that process.

953
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Speaker 4: Sam.

954
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Speaker 3: You know, it's like he was able to get two

955
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Speaker 3: hundred and seventeen votes. And now you've seen people like

956
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Speaker 3: Steve Scale and now even Jim Jordan, two Republicans that

957
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Speaker 3: have an unbelievable amount of respect for they're not even coming.

958
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Speaker 2: Close to that.

959
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 3: And so it just shows you that maybe, just maybe

960
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 3: and go with me for a second, that you want

961
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 3: you want a swamp killer as Speaker of the House.

962
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 3: You want somebody who's got time in Washington, who understands

963
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 3: how the system works, who is willing to use, knows

964
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 3: where all the bodies bodies are buried, knows how to

965
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 3: get things done and work behind the scenes to dismantle

966
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 3: the Democrat Party. If you've got a representative or a

967
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 3: member of Congress who's a great grassroots congressman, or like

968
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 3: a guy like Jim Jordan. Between me and you, I

969
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 3: guess it's not between me and you anymore, Lisa, But

970
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 3: like I hauld rather see him on the Judiciary ask

971
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 3: He's one of the few Republicans that can ask very,

972
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 3: very effective questions and he was great in that role.

973
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 3: And never mind the fact that republic Republicans, Speaker of

974
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 3: the House is one of the most thankless jobs on

975
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 3: the face of the planet. If you watch, if Jim

976
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 3: Jordan somehow pulls us off today in this vote at

977
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 3: one o'clock coming up here soon within six months, so

978
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 3: you're gonna have people on our party calling him a rhino.

979
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 3: He doesn't want that, I can assure you, but but

980
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 3: most Republicans don't want that job. So it's just like, yeah,

981
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 3: I agree with you. I think it's embarrassing, it's frustrating.

982
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 3: I wish there'd been a plan, But here we are.

983
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 1: Yeap you We've covered a lot of ground today, Sean.

984
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: I've really enjoyed this conversation. You know, you certainly got

985
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: my you know, mind spinning when I was looking at

986
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: your tweets today. So we were talking offline, I was like,

987
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: I need to have you on to you know, talk

988
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: about this and explain it to my audience and me

989
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: as well. Is there anything you want to leave us

990
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Speaker 1: with before we go?

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Speaker 3: Sean, just you know, we talked about how can something

992
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 3: like the Holocaust happen? And I would ask your listeners

993
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 3: just as they move through life, and I'm not I'm Catholic,

994
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 3: but you know, everyone has a different faith and they

995
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 3: believe different things. But open your eyes to the fact

996
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 3: that there is a very real spiritual war happening, and

997
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 3: the ground zero for that fight is right here in

998
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 3: this country, and your ability as an American citizen. And look,

999
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 3: I'm a conservative, I'm a Republican, I'm a Trump supporter,

1000
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 3: all cards on the table. I recognize that not everybody

1001
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 3: is going to agree with me on that, But there

1002
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 3: is a way in which we can get past all

1003
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 3: the politics and see good and evil for what it

1004
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 3: really is. Because good and evil does really exist in

1005
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 3: this world, and it is so important for people to

1006
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 3: be able to see that evil, be unafraid stand up

1007
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 3: to it and say I'm not moving, you move. It's

1008
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 3: just so important for people in our country to see

1009
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Speaker 3: things with moral clarity right now. And so if you

1010
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 3: take one thing away from this interview, please just try

1011
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 3: to open your eyes to the fact that there's a

1012
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 3: spiritual war and see things with moral clarity.

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00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: Amen, host of the Battleground Podcast American hero Sean Parnell.

1014
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Speaker 1: We appreciate you giving us our time, enlightening conversation. I

1015
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Speaker 1: really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, Lisa. I hope to talk to you soon.

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Speaker 4: I was Sean Parnell.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate him taking the time to join the show. I

1019
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Speaker 1: just wanted to have someone who has really experienced war,

1020
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Speaker 1: and he has, you know, retired Army Infantry captain with

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Speaker 1: the Elite tenth Mountain Division, spent you know, four hundred

1022
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Speaker 1: and eighty five days fighting along the Afghan Pakistan border.

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Speaker 1: So I think he knows what he's talking about. So

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Speaker 1: appreciate him.

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Speaker 4: For joining the show. I appreciate you listening at home.

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Speaker 1: You know, we normally do these Mondays and Thursdays, but

1027
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Speaker 1: there's just so much going on with us.

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Speaker 4: It's so important.

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Speaker 1: We've been putting them out at different times to be timely,

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Speaker 1: but I thank you for listening. I want to thank

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Speaker 1: John Cassio, my producer, for putting the show together.

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Speaker 4: Until next time,