1 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: Previously on Heidie World, we met Heidi Flice, the young 2 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: brilliant girl who turned her babysitting job into a successful 3 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: babysitting ring, and we introduced you to the Flice family, 4 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: a close knit, brady bunch of Jewish bohemians in LA's 5 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: Los Felis neighborhood led by patriarch and beloved local pediatrician, 6 00:00:52,800 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: doctor Paul Fleiss. Welcome to Heidi World. Chapter two, Party 7 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: Girl on the Sunset Strip. Heidi chases thrills instead of 8 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: stability and finds out there's a whole secret, underground world 9 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: of partying to the super rich. At Club Helena's the 10 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: nineteen eighties. It's the year nineteen eighty five. Heidi Flice 11 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: is nineteen years old. She wears cropped half shirts without 12 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: a bra, and likes to flash her tits at people 13 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: to shock them. She's also still living at home with 14 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: her dad and brother, which now means an apartment in 15 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: Santa Monica. Her parents are divorced, and her younger brother Jesse, 16 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: acts out by becoming a tiny punk rocker. Armed with 17 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: a good fake id, Heidi takes on the Los Angeles 18 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: clubbing scene, where she has the best possible access to 19 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: her ideal sexual prey, rich older men who want to 20 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: meet sexy young girls. These are some of the clubs 21 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: that Heidi frequents. Ice Paradise twenty four, the world famous Cathouse, 22 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: which is owned by Ricky Rachman, a musician from Van 23 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: Nuys who will become the host of MTD's flagship hard 24 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: rock show Head Banger's Ball Eddie Nash's Seven Seas. You 25 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: may know of Eddie Nash from his involvement as the 26 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: alleged mastermind of the Wonderland Murders, which were one of 27 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: the inspirations for Paul Thomas Anderson's Boogie Knights. Clubs like Vertigo, 28 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: Weis and Scream, where Heidi says the less than zero 29 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: set gathers. Heidi is ready to stop relying on her 30 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: family and definitely ready to stop living with her dad 31 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: and brother. To make some money, she gets a waitressing 32 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: job at a restaurant in Sunset Boulevard called Cravings. Cravings 33 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: is an upscale cafe that no longer exists, whose location 34 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: now houses a place that is named the Butcher, the Baker, 35 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: and the cappuccino Maker. Cravings serves nineteen eighties cow Mediterranean fair, 36 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: which means overpriced Italian food such as vegetable forward pizza 37 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 1: and pasta prima vera. Similar to one of Heidi's favorites, 38 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: Wolfgang Puck's trendsetting restaurants, Spago, Cravings is not only super trendy, 39 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: it's on the fucking Sunset Strip. 40 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: When I was eighteen and nineteen, I got a job 41 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: waitressing with a couple of my girlfriends. 42 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 3: This is what I learned from the experience. 43 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: Do not disrespect your server in any way or your 44 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: food will be tampered with. You got a tip no 45 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: matter what, even if you only had a cup of coffee. 46 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: If you don't, you will be fucked with. And I 47 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: had a lot of fun working there until things got 48 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: out of control. Like one of the girls, Liz, she 49 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: started smoking special cigarettes in the bathroom, while another girl 50 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: I grew up with, who had the face of an angel, 51 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: started stealing from the register. It was very uncomfortable for 52 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: me because I have the look, you know, the look 53 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: that makes you the culprit, and all I was trying 54 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: to do is be a good waitress. I think that 55 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: she used Cravings as a place to get involved in 56 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: a very fast running crowd. 57 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 3: Shane of flice. 58 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: Now, let's zoom out here and do a little La 59 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: history about the Sunset Strip. Sunset Boulevard is one of 60 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: LA's major thoroughfares, running east to west across the city, 61 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: stretching from downtown LA all the way. 62 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:34,559 Speaker 3: To the beach. 63 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: The Sunset Strip is the name of a mile and 64 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: a half long stretch of Sunset between West Hollywood and 65 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: Beverly Hills. Until the eighties, the Sunset Strip was unincorporated, 66 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: which meant that it didn't fall under the jurisdiction of 67 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: the LA Police Department. In the nineteen twenties, a bunch 68 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: of casinos and nightclubs opened on the Strip, offering gambling, 69 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: which was legal in La. 70 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 4: Proper during Prohibition. 71 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: The places on the Sunset Strip served booze in back rooms, 72 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: which brought in the brand new film industry's hard partying 73 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: social set, including the very first movie stars, forever establishing 74 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: the Sunset Strip's reputation as a liminal zone for glamorous 75 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: hard partying. In the nineteen thirties and forties, a new 76 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: generation of plush nightclubs opened on the Strip. These clubs 77 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: had velvet curtains, stage shows, and big, beautiful neon signs 78 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: out front places like Ciro's The Macambo and Cafe Trocadero, which. 79 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 4: Further established the strip. 80 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: The Macambo had a tropical theme with glass cages filled 81 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: with cockatoos, macaws, and parrots. It hosted Frank Sinatra's first 82 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: appearance in La and an Ella Fitzgerald Residency personally lobbied 83 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: for by Marilyn Monroe in a challenge to the club's 84 00:05:55,080 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: racist performance policy. The Sunset Strip's high classic era club ubs, 85 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: which you can see in a lot of film noirs, 86 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: have cinematic decor and dream like immersiveness set against the 87 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: disgusting regularness of outside. This has taken to logical extremes 88 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: in the nineteen fifties with the casino hotels built in 89 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: the desert city of Las Vegas, like the Flamingo built 90 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 1: by Bugsy Seagull and Walt Disney's escapist Fantasia Disneyland. Again, 91 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: Hollywood stars and players flocked to the swank Sunset Strip 92 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: supper clubs, where gossip columnists were waiting to report their 93 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: studio approved hijinks in trade mag columns the next day. 94 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: Like an ancient version of Doumois, Many of the Sunset 95 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: Strip supper clubs were run by or paid a cut 96 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: to the Jewish gangsters who were at that time running 97 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: vice in la people like Mickey Cohen and Bugsy Seagull. 98 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: By the sixties, the old supper clubs had faded and 99 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: were no longer considered cool. The strip scene became dominated 100 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: by beatnick cafes that stayed open late, and jazz clubs, 101 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: most notably coffee shop slash nightclub Pandora's Box. A new 102 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: generation of club promoters open rock clubs on the Strip 103 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: like the Whisky a Go Go, attracting young people to 104 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: see locally made stars like The Birds, The Doors and 105 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: Sonny and Chare, a band of Laurel Canyon proto hippie 106 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: art weirdos known as Vito and his Freakers were hired 107 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: by club owners to show up at the clubs and 108 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: dance outrageously, to prompt other people to dance and give 109 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: the tourists looking for an authentic taste of the burgeoning 110 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: but already commodifying California counterculture something to write home about. 111 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: The Sunset Strip's new reputation as a haven for flower 112 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: children grew until kids from all over the city of 113 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: Los Angeles started showing up to hang out there. Older 114 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: conservatives complained about the hippie teenagers, and an arbitrary curfew 115 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: for young people was established. How long, the police were 116 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: brought in, where they proceeded to beat the. 117 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 4: Shit out of a bunch of kids. 118 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: This inspired protests, which in turn inspired the Buffalo Springfield 119 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: song for what It's Worth, which I don't have enough 120 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: money to. 121 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 4: Play on this show. 122 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: The rock scene became even more debauched in the seventies 123 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,239 Speaker 1: with the founding of Sunset Strip hotels like the Tropicana 124 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: and the Hyatt, which became known as the Riot House 125 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: for its association with led Zeppelin. This is the Sunset 126 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: Strip of Almost Famous, home to the increasingly underage groupie 127 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: scene at Rodney Bingenheimer's English Disco, which broke British glam 128 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: rock in America. In the eighties, the glam and hard 129 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: rock scene mutates into its final. 130 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 4: Form, hair metal, and this is where. 131 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,599 Speaker 1: Heidi Fleis finds herself on the strip at the absolute 132 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: peak of the nineteen eighties hair metal years. Partying on 133 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: the Sunset Strip is a rite of passage for locals, transplants, 134 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: and tourists alike. Like any other gold rush town, the 135 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: Strip is always going through booms and busts. It had 136 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: yet another wave of popularity recently during COVID, when it 137 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: became the place for TikTok influencers living in mansions in 138 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: the Hollywood Hills to see and be seen partying. The 139 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: TikTokers even repopularized the Old West theme steakhouse Saddle Ranch, 140 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: which is most famous from the Sex and the City 141 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: episode where they go to La and Miranda rides the 142 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: mechanical bull. The Sunset Strip's ongoing reputation as Sodom and 143 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: Gomora on Earth is total catnip for anyone looking to 144 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: party in La, so of course Heidi Flights is drawn 145 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: there as a young woman. Cravings is walking distance from 146 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: clubs like the Roxy, The Whiskey, and the Rainbow Bar 147 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: and Grill, which are all at their peak. Bands who 148 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: got their start on the Sunset Strip at these clubs, 149 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: like Motley Crue and Guns N' Roses still hang out 150 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: there while they're topping the charts for the Let us 151 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: look at what the strip was like in the years 152 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: Heidi was working and hanging out there. I recommend Penelope 153 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: Spherus is The Decline of Western Civilization, Part two the 154 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: Metal Years in nineteen eighty five. The strip is the 155 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: epicenter of partying and excess, and Heidiflie is right there waitressing, 156 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: ready to become part of it all. 157 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 3: Be confident. 158 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 2: Body language is very important. You must have a good posture. 159 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 2: Speak with a subtle yet sexy attitude. 160 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 3: Project desire. 161 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: You want this person to feel that they will be 162 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: missing out if they are not with you. You can 163 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: come on strong as long as you express yourself in 164 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 2: the right manner and a subtle please come with me attitude. 165 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 2: Tell them not to look at you or stand near you, 166 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: because all you can do is think about them. 167 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: While she's working at Cravings, Heidi becomes best friends with 168 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 1: a woman named Jennifer Young, who comes from a Hollywood family. 169 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: This is a pattern we see throughout the entire Heidi 170 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: Fly saga. A lot of people in it are second 171 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: generation LA residents whose parents are prominent in the city 172 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: in some way. Heidi is obviously the first example, with 173 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 1: her father, the prominent pediatrician. Jennifer Young's father was an 174 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: Oscar winning actor named gig Young birth name Byron Barr. 175 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: Gig Young was nominated for Best Supporting Actor three times 176 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty two for alcoholism drama Come Fill the Cup, 177 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty nine for the Doris Day romantic comedy 178 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: Teacher's Pet, and in nineteen sixty nine for Sidney Pollock's 179 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: new Hollywood period piece They Shoot Horses, Don't They? About, 180 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: a Depression era dancathon. He won in nineteen sixty nine 181 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: for his portrayal of the dance's MC. He was married 182 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: five times and was briefly engaged to Elaine Stretch. His 183 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: most famous wife was Bewitched star Elizabeth Montgomery, who divorced 184 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: him over his alcoholism. After losing the nineteen fifty one 185 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: Oscar gig, Young told Gossip columnist Luella Parsons, so many 186 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: people who have been nominated for an Oscar have had 187 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: bad luck. Afterwards. After his win for They Shoot Horses, 188 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: Don't They, the bad luck arrived. His alcoholism became an 189 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: increasing issue on sets, and he was fired from Blazing 190 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: Saddles for collapsing due to alcohol withdrawal. In nineteen seventy six, 191 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 1: Young was hired as the voice of Charlie on Aaron 192 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: Spelling's new show Charlie's Angels, then fired and replaced when 193 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: his addiction interfered with his work. He continued to book 194 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: jobs sporadically in the seventies. His last role was in 195 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: the posthumously released nineteen seventy eight Bruce Lee film Game 196 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: of Death. 197 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 4: Gig Young was. 198 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: Also a patient of quack psychotherapist doctor Eugene Landy, best 199 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: known for treating the Beach Boys Brian Wilson with his 200 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: unconventional twenty four hour marathon therapy techniques and then having 201 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: his license. 202 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 4: Revoked for malpractice. 203 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: Landy came up in the same era of New age 204 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: medicine as Heidi's dad, and ran a clinic in the 205 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: early seventies called Free Foundation for the Rechanneling of Emotions 206 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: and Education. Landy was a guru type and aspiring music 207 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: business hanger on. 208 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 4: Again. 209 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: This was the era of pushing the boundaries of therapy, 210 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: especially in California, where the line between legitimately helpful new 211 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 1: therapy technique and thought control experiment slash. 212 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 4: Cult could be very thin. 213 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: Despite being married five times, Jennifer Young was gig Young's 214 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: only child, and he denied having fathered her In court 215 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: battles over child support, which he lost. 216 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 4: In nineteen seventy eight. 217 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: Sixty four year old gig Young married his fifth wife, 218 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: a thirty one year old German magazine editor named Kim Schmidt, 219 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: who he met in Hong Kong while filming Game of Death. 220 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: Three weeks after the wedding, the couple were found dead 221 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: in their Manhattan apartment with a diary open that said 222 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: we got married today. The cops decided that Young had 223 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: shot his wife and then himself, but there was no 224 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 1: clear motive for the murder. Suicide conspiracists started theorizing about 225 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: his connections to doctor Eugene Landy. When Heidie World returns, 226 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: Heidi gets to party at LA's hottest nineteen eighties club, 227 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: Plaine Us. Welcome back to Heidie World, so Heidi pells 228 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: up with Jennifer Young, and the two young waitresses paint 229 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: the town red every night after work. Jen introduces Heidi 230 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: to a new echelon of partying, a more exclusive level. 231 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: So far, Heidi has just been clubbing in Hollywood with 232 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: the Pleabs. Jen takes her to a VIP club, the 233 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: kind where you have to know someone to get in. 234 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: It's a club called Helena's, a nondescript door at Rampart 235 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: and Temple. At Helena's, the clientele includes Prince Madonna, Marlon Brando, 236 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: Joni Mitchell, The Pointer Sisters, George Michael, Sean Penn, Jack Nicholson, 237 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: Meryl Streep, Angelica Houston, and Harry Dean Stanton. Helena's is 238 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: infamous as a club where celebrities openly can do drugs. 239 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: Helena's is run by Helena kallianotis, a Greek refugee actress, 240 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: belly dancer, and close friend of Jack Nicholson. Jack and 241 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: Helena met through his friend Five Easy Pieces screenwriter Carol Eastman, 242 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: who brought Jack to the Greek restaurant in the vast 243 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: Lli Helena belly danced at. Nicholson, who was not yet 244 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: a star, put Helena an easy rider as a commune dweller, 245 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: and had her dance in the Monkey's movie Head, which 246 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: he wrote. Kalia Niota's most notable performance is as one 247 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: half of the lesbian hitchhiking couple in Five Easy Pieces, 248 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: alongside Tony Basil, the choreographer of later Oh, Mickey, You're 249 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: So Fine, You're so fine, You Blow My mind fame. 250 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: Kalia Niotis lived in Jack's guesthouse and acted as his 251 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: property manager. Angelica Houston was a regular at Helena's and 252 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: Jack Nicholson's longtime partner. She recalls meeting Helena. 253 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 5: I met Helena at Jack Nicholson's. It was the first 254 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 5: night I met Jack, about nineteen seventy two or seventy three. 255 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 5: I remember this amazing looking woman. She had a tattoo 256 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 5: on her upper arm that was a crucifix that said mom. 257 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 5: She was fascinating and scary. I soon learned that Helena 258 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 5: has the gentlest of hearts. 259 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: Helena first hosted a popular night at skateland Roller Rank 260 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: in Resita with Ed Begley Junior, before taking over the 261 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: lease for a belly dancing studio in the space that 262 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: became Helena's. Helena's was next to a scientology building and 263 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: across the street from LAPD's notorious rampart Division. The most 264 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: famous people Helena turned away from the club were armsteeler 265 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: Adnan Kushogi, and once accidentally, Prince because she thought he 266 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: was a real prince and she despised royalty when she 267 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: realized her tremendous fuck up. She gave Prince a permanent 268 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: table of his own where he would come sit and 269 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: drink water, sometimes bringing his father. Helena's lasted from nineteen 270 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: eighty five to nineteen ninety one, when Helena suffered a 271 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 1: serious car accident. While she eventually moved out of Jack's 272 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: back house, Helena, who is eighty three, is still very 273 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: close with him and organized the twenty seventeen memorial for 274 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: their mutual friend Harry Dean Stanton. Although Helena says she 275 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: didn't do any drugs herself, the spot with the no 276 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: camera's rule developed a particular reputation. Here are some quotes 277 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: from a twenty eighteen Hollywood Reporter story about the club. 278 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 6: It was so much fun because that was the thing 279 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 6: to dance Pana Helena's and do drugs. 280 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 4: Melanie Griffith actress. 281 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 5: Everybody was coped out and getting laid Rita Wilson actress, 282 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 5: Prince on the dance floor, Paul Getty in his wheelchair 283 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 5: doing circles, Sean Penn punching someone over, Madonna, people being themselves. 284 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 5: It just happened. A bunch were really famous. 285 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: Going to Helena's ups the ante for Heidi even more. 286 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: It raises her expectations for what constitutes fun. She now 287 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: knows that there's a whole hidden world of luxurious, even 288 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: more limited access partying and She's completely determined to work 289 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 1: her way in. 290 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: You can put the best looking twenty two year old 291 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 2: in front of my face and it's just like ooh 292 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: to me. An older guy that is educated, affluent, intellectual 293 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 2: and worldly is much more of a sexual turn on 294 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 2: than someone like marking Mark. 295 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 3: I'm talking like so old he needs a walker. 296 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: Greyhall Mansion is a Beverly Hills estate that played Chris 297 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: Christofferson's Rockstar character's house in the nineteen seventy six A 298 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: Star Is Born, and hosted Eddie Van Halen's wedding to 299 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: Valerie Bertinelli. Gray Hall has a secret underground tunnel that 300 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: once connected it to pickfair the estate of Silent Star 301 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: super couple Douglas Fairbanks and Mary Pickford. Greyhall is for 302 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: sure haunted, and its last famous owner was Mark R. Hughes, 303 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: the CEO of Herbal Life, the caffeine pill supplement multi 304 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: level marketing scheme. Hughes was found dead in two thousand 305 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: if a drug overdose, eerily echoing his mother, who was 306 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: addicted to amphetamine diet pills and died from an overdose 307 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: of the opioid darvon. One night, Jennifer Young drags Heidi 308 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: to a party at Greyhall Mansion, now owned by a 309 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: self made entrepreneur named Bernie Cornfeld. Heidi doesn't really want 310 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: to go and tells herself she'll just wait in the 311 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: car for her friend. But as soon as Heidi sees 312 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: the gigantic house, she knows this is where she belongs. 313 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 2: One night, I called my friend Jennifer Young to pick 314 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 2: me up and she was like, only if you go 315 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 2: to this party with me? So I said yes, with 316 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 2: no intention of actually getting out of the car whence 317 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 2: we arrived. 318 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 3: But then we pull up to the house. 319 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 2: The minute I walked through the front door, I asked 320 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 2: Jennifer who owns this house? And she pointed to Bernie, 321 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 2: who looked like Santa Cla Clause. And I was thinking, fuck, 322 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 2: I'm going to live with this guy and life is 323 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,479 Speaker 2: going to be easy street. That is how I met 324 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 2: Bernie Coornfeld at his home, Greyhall Mansion. 325 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: It is love at first sight between Heidi and the mansion. 326 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 1: Heidi's lust for luxury, real estate and the finer, more 327 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: expensive things in life bonds her to the rich, older 328 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: men she likes who like all the same things, and 329 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: also young, vivacious Jewish women. Bernie Cornfeld is a Romanian 330 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: and Russian Jew born in Istanbul who moved to Brooklyn 331 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: as a child. His first hustle was running an age 332 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: and weight guessing stand at Coney Island. Cornfield was a 333 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: social worker, then got into mutual funds, starting at a 334 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: company called Investors Overseas Service that was a Ponzi scheme 335 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: in the late nineteen sixties, whose Switzerland based company ran 336 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 1: a two point five billion dollar mutual fund business out 337 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: of one hundred countries. The company collapsed in nineteen sixty 338 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: nine when profits fell far short of what was expected, 339 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: and in nineteen seventy the investors sued. It was then 340 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: revived by New Jersey finance guy Robert Fesco, who allegedly 341 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: turned it into a front company for the CIA, until 342 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 1: it collapsed again and ruined a bunch of banks. Cornfeld 343 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: was arrested in Switzerland, where iOS was based, and spent 344 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: eleven months in a Swiss jail. 345 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 4: In nineteen seventy. 346 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: Five, he was also charged with telephone fraud for a 347 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: scam where he used a thing called blue boxes to 348 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: do what's called phone freaking with a pH and get 349 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: around long distance charges. However, he was eventually acquitted in 350 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine, which is when he moved to Beverly Hills, 351 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: was still quite a lot of money. After his acquittal, 352 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: Cornfeld held court in Beverly Hills for famous friends like 353 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Taylor and Tony Curtis, as well as wealthy businessmen 354 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: like Elfred S. Bloomingdale, the heir to the department store 355 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: fortune and a close confidant of President Ronald Reagan. Bloomingdale 356 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: had a public sex scandal when his mistress, Vicky Morgan, 357 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: demanded financial compensation in court for palimony. This embarrassed Bloomingdale, 358 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: who was dying of cancer, his wife, and their pals, 359 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: the Reagans, since Vicky Morgan had been doing survival sex 360 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: work since falling on hard times. Bloomingdale's lawyers tried to 361 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: claim that the arrangement had been entirely sex for hire, 362 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: but ultimately awarded her the equivalent of nearly half a 363 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: million dollars before she was then shockingly murdered by her roommate, 364 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: who had become psychotically obsessed with her. After Vicky Morgan 365 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: was murdered, a lawyer named Robert K. Steinberg, who had 366 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: considered representing the killer roommate said he had custody of 367 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: sex tapes recovered from Morgan's apartment that showed Vicky Morgan, 368 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: Bloomingdale and friends engaging in sadomasochistic sex parties with prominent 369 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: members of the Reagan White House. Steinberg claimed he would 370 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: destroy the tapes unless the White House told him not to, 371 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: and the sex tapes now appeared. Now does that mean 372 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: the sex tape showing White House officials and compromising positions 373 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: with sex workers didn't exist, of course not. Phantom sex 374 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: tapes also show up in the story of the Manson 375 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: family murders. 376 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 4: In telm O'Neill's. 377 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,719 Speaker 1: Chaos, he finds evidence that the cops confiscated sex tapes 378 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: from the clo Drive house where Roman Polanski and Sharon 379 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: Tate lived, which allegedly depicted the couple and their famous 380 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: friends engaging in group sex and SMM scenarios. In the 381 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: Ed Sanders book The Family, he also hears tale of 382 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: these sn M tapes, as well as sex and snuff 383 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: films made by the Manson family. Sanders actually coins the 384 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: term snuff film in the book The Family off the 385 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: term that he also coins snuff buffs, in reference to 386 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: people who show up at the Manson trial hearing just 387 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: to gawk. The tapes never materialized for Sanders, although people 388 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: are always claiming to have them, but that doesn't mean 389 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: they didn't exist. The Heidi Fly story also has some 390 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: phantom audio tapes. Stories like this which happen partially underground 391 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: are plagued with unprovable but true seeming details. When sex 392 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: tapes of the rich and powerful doing things they are 393 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 1: supposedly again surface, like these alleged Reagan White House sex tapes, 394 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: they are likely to be buried before the public ever 395 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: gets a chance to see them. Anyway, back to Heidi 396 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: and Bernie Cornfeld. 397 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 3: He introduced himself, We talked. 398 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 2: He offered me a new job, answering phones twice the 399 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 2: salary I had been making as a waitress. 400 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: We weren't really a couple in that sense. 401 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 4: It's not my thing, but we were good friends. 402 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 6: We saw a lot of each other. 403 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: Bernie Cornfeld businessmen. 404 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 3: He was always trying to teach me things the god. 405 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: He had a weird way of getting his point across. 406 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: Heidi moves into Gray Hall with Bernie immediately. Her parents 407 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: are not thrilled. They have still been hoping Heidi would 408 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: straighten up and decide to go to college, but they 409 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: also know how wilful she can be. 410 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 7: I didn't approve of that jet, said lifestyle. 411 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 3: I was horrified, and I let her know. 412 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 7: Paul Fleisch, pediatrician. 413 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 1: For four years. Bernie is Heidi's sugar daddy, if not 414 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: her official boyfriend, because he doesn't believe in such labels. Nevertheless, 415 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: he spoils her with the expensive material things she craves, 416 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: and she respects his important status. They travel the world 417 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: together on his private jet, going to his various properties 418 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: and luxury hotels around the globe, from Hotel Xanadu in 419 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,719 Speaker 1: the Bahamas to his twelfth century castle in the Swiss 420 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: French Alps. She's working as Bernie's assistant for way more 421 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: than she made. She also feels she understands Bernie, who 422 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: is clearly overcompensating for a youth where beautiful women weren't 423 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: sexually interested in him. 424 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 2: On my twenty first birthday, he gave me a million 425 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 2: in cash and a cornish okay, he's not exactly tight 426 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: with money. 427 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: For a while, everything works beautifully with Heidi and Bernie 428 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: traveling the world, sometimes bringing other women in for sex, 429 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: until the day Heidi realizes that Bernie is fucking other 430 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: women without her, and furthermore that she doesn't want that, 431 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: no matter the lifestyle that comes with it. They stay 432 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,239 Speaker 1: often at Xanadu, which was built by Howard Hughes and 433 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: bought by Cornfeld, who turned it into Timeshares. In the 434 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 1: penthouse of Xana Do, Heidi decides it's over. 435 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 3: He just couldn't be monogamous and it drove me crazy. 436 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 2: By then, I'm twenty two, and I'm thinking I have 437 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 2: to get out of the city situation of having an 438 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: older guy that's just beating me to treads mentally, and 439 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 2: I'm thinking it's all my fault. I'm a loser and 440 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: my self esteem is zero. We would fight and I 441 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 2: would fly to Europe for one day and he'd call 442 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 2: me and say I love you, and then I'd fly 443 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,479 Speaker 2: back the next I woke up one morning in the 444 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 2: Howard Hughes penthouse. My view is the bright blue ocean 445 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 2: and the whole world is out there, and I decide 446 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 2: I'm going home. 447 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 3: I'm going to go do something. 448 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,959 Speaker 1: Heidi's relationship with Bernie ends peacefully, although she feels heartbroken, 449 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: and they remain very close friends until his death. She 450 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: looked up to Bernie, but also loved his glamorous escapades 451 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: and stories about hanging out with his pal Hugh Hefner. 452 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: True to her penthouse revelation. After she and Bernie break up, 453 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: Heidi decides to try and pursue a real career. She's 454 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: twenty three, now done with waitress saying, and eager to 455 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: make some real money of her own. She doesn't have 456 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: to rely on a rich boyfriend to give her Heidi 457 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: decides she wants to be like her sort of friend, 458 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: Jen Young's mom, Elaine Young, a realtor who bills herself 459 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: as the Realtor to the Stars. Elaine Young is another 460 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: LA native whose father worked at Universal Studios as an 461 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: art director. She levied herself into the showy world of 462 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: LA real estate, selling houses to stars like Elvis Presley, 463 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: Burt Reynolds, Frank Sinatra, and Elizabeth Taylor. She even sells 464 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: a house to football star turned pitchman O. J. Simpson, 465 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: a beautiful house in the upscale neighborhood of Brentwood on 466 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: Rockingham Drive. 467 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 3: Never let an opportunity pass you. By Elaine Young, Realtor 468 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 3: to the Stars. 469 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: You can see how Heidi might have picked up a 470 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: few ideas from Jen's realtor to the star's mom about 471 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: brand building as well. If you bill yourself is catering 472 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: to an exclusive client, tell and can get a fish 473 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: or two on the line yourself through your own personal connections, 474 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: the rest of the exclusive client tele you seek will 475 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: start coming to you. So Heidie does something she has 476 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: hardly ever done before. She studies really hard for an 477 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: exam the realtor test to get her realtor's license, and 478 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: she passes the realtor test and gets a realtor's license. 479 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 3: I was determined to find a career. 480 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 2: I got my real estate license and a job at 481 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 2: a fancy office in Beverly Hills. My first client was 482 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 2: a lawyer from Disney Pictures. After just a few minutes 483 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 2: of conversation with her, I knew right away a condo 484 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 2: she would be interested in, and I showed it to 485 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 2: her and she loved it. And then she turned around 486 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 2: and did the transaction with another broker. 487 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: Heidi is frustrated by her lack of instant success in 488 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: the real estate business. She loves to gamble, but hates 489 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: to lose. She learns another valuable lesson about being cutthroat. 490 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 3: Every profession is competitive. 491 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if you're a doctor, an architect, or 492 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 2: if you're selling shoes. 493 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 3: It is all the same. 494 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 2: It comes down to you and how badly you want 495 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 2: it and how hard you are willing to work for it. 496 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: Nostalgie de la beau is a French term I just 497 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: learned off Wikipedia that means nostalgia for mud. It means 498 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: you have an attraction to low life culture, to the 499 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: romance of the gutter. Heidi was clearly drawn to the 500 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: sea deier side of La just as much as she 501 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: was drawn to the glittering mansions in the hills. She 502 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: says as much herself that she was attracted to the 503 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: world of sexfice because it was culturally taboo. She understood 504 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: the implicit connection between extreme wealth and elite vice. Where 505 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: one exists, so does the other, and sometimes these vices gambling, 506 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: for example, can be a great equalizer. When Heidi World returns, 507 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: Heidi Meetslimebag producer Yvonne naj. 508 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 4: Welcome back to Heidi World. 509 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 6: I came to this country when I was eighteen years 510 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 6: old without a beny in my pocket, and I grew 511 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 6: to become one of the most admired photographers in town, 512 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 6: and I went on to a directing career that got 513 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 6: me to a certain level, you know. So what you 514 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 6: see here is the direct result of the career that 515 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 6: I built in nothing else. Ivan Nage, producer. 516 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 2: I always had this thing when I go to nightclubs 517 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: that when the most loser, creepiest guy would ask me 518 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 2: to dance, I would just always say yes. So some 519 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 2: guy that looks like a creep dressed disgusting comes and 520 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 2: asks me to dance one night, and I say yes, 521 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 2: And it happened to be Yvonne Naje. 522 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: One night at Helena's, Heidi meets a Hungarian director named 523 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: Yvonne naj Nase is fifty two years old, divorced from 524 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: actress Irene Sue, and on the prowl for Heidi. It 525 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: is not love at first sight. Unlike Bernie Cornfeld, who 526 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: is very rich and well liked by all, Nase is 527 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: not particularly rich and a universally loathed all around dirtba. 528 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: He's a Hollywood hanger on. He started out taking photos 529 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: of the band Buffalo Springfield ended up in the low 530 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: budget B movie world of the nineteen seventies. If you 531 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: like Quentin Tarantinos, Once upon a time in Hollywood. You 532 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: are going to love this part, which is about von 533 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: Naj's career in Hollywood. Nause's directing career consisted of the 534 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: following Bad Charleston Charlie, a nineteen seventy three comedy about 535 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 1: inepte gangsters with a small cameo from David Carrodine. Bad 536 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: Charleston Charlie starred and was written by b Movie Studio 537 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: Crown International Pictures regular Ross Hagen. Hagen was a Hollywood 538 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 1: lifer who played cowboys in sixties TV westerns like Lancer, 539 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: and starred in not one, but three sexploitation movies about 540 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: female biker gangs. He plays a Hollywood cowboy in the 541 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four movie Angel, Robert Vincent O'Neill's nineteen eighty 542 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: four cult classic, famous for its video store poster and 543 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 1: tagline high School, I Will honor student by day Hollywood 544 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: hooker by night. Angel is actually a sympathetic portrayal of 545 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 1: sex work and not a teen sexploitation movie at all. 546 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: Hagen's final credit before his twenty ten death was voicing 547 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: one Last Cowboy in Red Dead Redemption. Hagan and Naj 548 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: made a second feature in nineteen seventy three that they 549 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: co wrote called Pushing Up Daisies, about criminals who rob 550 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: a bank dressed as nuns. The movie itself was something 551 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: of a heist. It was shot on discarded film short 552 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: ends over seventeen weekends. In nineteen seventy five, Yvonne Naj 553 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: directed Deadly Hero, about a psychotic, trigger happy New York 554 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: cop vigilante who becomes a local hero, which came out 555 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: a year before Paul Schrader and Martin Scorsese's similarly themed 556 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 1: Taxi Driver. Deadly Hero is very insane and features cameos 557 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,720 Speaker 1: from Debbie Harry and Christine of Blondie. 558 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 4: In nineteen seventy. 559 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 1: Six, Nase wrote the story for Trackdown, whose story resembles 560 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 1: that of another Paul Schrader joint. Nineteen seventy nine's hardcore 561 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: Trackdown stars James mitchum, son of Robert, as a man 562 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: trying to track down his sister who left Montana for 563 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: Hollywood and was trafficked into prostitution the tagline what if 564 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: it was Your sister. Nauj moved into TV, where he 565 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,280 Speaker 1: was a journeyman TV director in the seventies and eighties 566 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: for shows like Starsky and Hutch Chips, and The Hitchhiker. 567 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 1: He also directed TV movies like Once Upon a Spy 568 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: starring Ted Danson and Christopher Lee, Midnight Lace with Susan 569 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: Tyrrell and Blackie Dammit, Father of the Red Hot Chili 570 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 1: Peppers front man Anthony Keatis, and a widely maligned made 571 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: for TV movie starring Gary Coleman as a teenage arsonist. 572 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 8: Von nauj was a less than mediocre director. I could 573 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 8: tell in the first five minutes whether Yvonne had directed it. 574 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 8: He's an enemy of talent Andy Seda, director and friend 575 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 8: of Avon's. 576 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,479 Speaker 1: By the time Heidi meets Yvonne naj in nineteen eighty nine, 577 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: directing is no longer his main career. He's now primarily 578 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: a sports bookie and drug dealer. But because he straddles 579 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: the not so distant worlds of illegal vice and mainstream 580 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: Hollywood entertainment, he is welcomed at a spot like Helena's 581 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: and Heidi, as we know, is a gambler. While she 582 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: is put off by his appearance an entire general vibe, 583 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: the revelation that Yvonne is a bookie intrigues her, and 584 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,760 Speaker 1: she places a sports bet with him. For five hundred dollars. 585 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: The next day, she goes to pick up her winnings 586 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: and finds Nase on an expensive fifty five foot boat. 587 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: The walls of the boat cabin are lined with photographs 588 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: of Nause with well known Hollywood playboys and nude women. 589 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: Heidi asks, what the fuck happens on this boat and 590 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: he laughs at her. 591 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 3: I made a bet with him and I happened to win. 592 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 2: I went straight back to the Bahamas, and Yvonne followed 593 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 2: me there. 594 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 3: I did not know he was a lunatic. Not yet. 595 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: Yvonne naj and Heidi Flies get into a relationship marked 596 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: immediately by emotional and physical abuse. He rapes her over 597 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: a gambling dad, and she's too fucked up by the 598 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,879 Speaker 1: whole experience to report it. She asks Bernie Cornfeld about 599 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 1: Yvonne Naje and he tells her to stay far, far away. 600 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 3: I never thought of him as my boyfriend at the time. 601 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,720 Speaker 2: I thought for a while to fend him off, actually, 602 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 2: and I hit my head on a table really hard too, 603 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 2: and then I kept thinking, what do I want to do? 604 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 2: Go home where my sister who just had her final 605 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 2: operation is throwing up, and it's my fault. 606 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 3: And so I spent the night at his house afterwards, 607 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 3: and that was it. 608 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 1: Yvon Nage also enables Heidie's worst tendencies to gamble and 609 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: abuse drugs. Their intersection is a toxic nightmare from the 610 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,439 Speaker 1: get go, but they also cannot let go of each other, 611 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: and this is where we get into disputed territory. At 612 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: some point, Yvonne Nage introduces Heidie flies to a woman 613 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,720 Speaker 1: named Alex Adams, who is, at the time they meet, 614 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: the premier madam in Beverly Hills. Alex Adams, known also 615 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: as Madame Alex, rules the high end escorting game without 616 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: ever leaving the bedroom of her bel air mansion on 617 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:36,760 Speaker 1: Doheeney Drive. 618 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 4: For years. 619 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: Madame Alex conducts business entirely from her bedroom in one 620 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 1: of her trademark lumus, speaking on the phone to her 621 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: wealthy and well connected clientele. Alex had been building her 622 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: madaming empire in la since the sixties, and will explain 623 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 1: how she did that in episode three. But by the 624 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: time Heidi meets her, Alex is in her fifties and 625 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,919 Speaker 1: has s several serious health conditions keeping her confined to bed. 626 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 1: Alex had never been a sex worker, herself. She was 627 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 1: a managerial type who organized everything for her employees through 628 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,919 Speaker 1: her lifeline, the telephone. Nobody seems to agree on how 629 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: Heidi and Alex first met. According to Heidi, she met 630 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: Alex around town. According to Yvonne Naje, he quote unquote 631 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: gave Heidi to Alex to pay off a gambling debt. 632 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: However it went down. Heidi and Alex hit it off instantly. 633 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: Alex loved to impress people, and Heidi was genuinely impressed. 634 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: She was also a fast study and a teacher's pet, 635 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,280 Speaker 1: rising in the ranks quickly to become Madame Alex's favorite. 636 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: Heidi says she never had sex with anyone when she 637 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: worked for Madame Alex. She was more of an assistant. 638 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: But Alex differs. 639 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,800 Speaker 7: Yvonne brought Heidi here in nineteen eighty nine. He turned 640 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 7: her out. He made her work for me to pay 641 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 7: off a four hundred and fifty dollars gift bed I said, 642 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 7: why do you want to do this? And he said 643 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 7: I need the four fifty And I said, I thought 644 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 7: you loved her, why do you want to sell her? 645 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 7: It was awful. He's a piece of work. 646 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 4: This man. 647 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 7: I can't remember who I sent her to, Jesus. It 648 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 7: was years ago, but I think it was a very 649 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 7: wealthy Texan Madame Alex. 650 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 6: Obviously, I didn't want her to work, and the last 651 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 6: thing I wanted to do was to sell her to Alex. 652 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 3: That was his job. He'd sell people to Alex. 653 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 2: Alex had him collect money, scare girls, do errands, and 654 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 2: for this she'd get him laid and pay him due. 655 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 7: Why are you bringing me this thing? She was a 656 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 7: five ideal intense. 657 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 1: When Heiday is twenty two, Alex and Yvonne naj convince 658 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: her to go out on a job. 659 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 2: I got fucked up on drugs, cocaine and kailubes and 660 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 2: they talked me into having sex with an Arab at 661 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 2: the Beverly Wilshire Hotel for. 662 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 3: Five thousand dollars. 663 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,720 Speaker 2: He was so nice he paid me in travelers checks 664 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 2: and I gave two thousand to Yvonne. 665 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 3: I wasn't scared because I was fucked up. 666 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: While their first meeting may have been a bit strange, 667 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,280 Speaker 1: a close connection between Heidi and Madame Alex is forged 668 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 1: over the next year as Heidi starts working for Alex. 669 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 1: Whether or not she continued to do sex work. She 670 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: definitely does do assistant work for Alex and shadows her closely, 671 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: which helps her learn Alex's business. Heidi says she was 672 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: sent on a bad group date to Las Vegas that 673 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: made her want to work more behind the scenes. What 674 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,280 Speaker 1: is certain is that Heidi started working for Madame Alex 675 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,280 Speaker 1: sometime in the late eighties and aggressively sucked up to her, 676 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: learning her trade and very specific methodology, but also becoming 677 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 1: her constant companion. Heidi and Alex have a mutual respect. 678 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 1: Heidi respects that Alex is so powerful and rich, and 679 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 1: Alex respects Heidi's street smarts and strong ambition. 680 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,439 Speaker 7: We'd giggle, We'd get bored tonight. We'd call up other 681 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 7: Madams and ask them about girls. They'd think that they 682 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 7: were being taped and freak out. 683 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 2: Alex did not drive. She would call me to take 684 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 2: her on errands when she needed help. I tried to 685 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 2: help her no matter what time it was. 686 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 3: I was really good about that. 687 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 2: Many times Alex called it two am because she thought 688 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 2: someone was on her roof or ringing her doorbell. And 689 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 2: she would also call it dawn on a Saturday. 690 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 3: And say, oh, don't you feel like fresh orchids. 691 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 2: Today, and so I would get up and drive her 692 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,280 Speaker 2: twenty minutes the flower martin downtown LA. 693 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 7: I was more than good to Heidi. She was so 694 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 7: respectful and I was flattered. She's a freak. Mena fascinated 695 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 7: by freaks. They become obsessed. Heidi is lovable in her 696 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 7: way when she's not being a twat. 697 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 1: Heidi takes Alex everywhere that Alex wants to go to 698 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: an art fair where she drops six thousand dollars on 699 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 1: trinkets that Heidi thinks are a bunch of junk. To 700 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: Nieman Marcus for expensive chocolates, where all the salespeople know 701 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: Alex and she's treated like a queen. Two estate sales 702 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 1: where she overbids on a Salvador Dolly print of dubious 703 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,399 Speaker 1: origin that Heidi swears looks just like the museum gift 704 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 1: store posters, to open houses what she likes to walk 705 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 1: through and critique the homes. She also once calls Heidi 706 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 1: for urgent help after getting bit on the labia by 707 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: a spider. Madame Alex also uses cocaine in a way 708 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: that I have never heard of anyone doing before she 709 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 1: crushes it up in a Kleenex and pretends to blow 710 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:58,359 Speaker 1: her nose, but actually inhales in She thinks it's very 711 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: funny to pretend to be an old woman with a 712 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 1: cold when she is in fact a madam flying on 713 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 1: blow to show that she is savvy and loyal, Heidi 714 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 1: tells Alex that Yvonne is overcharging her for drugs and 715 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: black market plane tickets. Alex claims to be aware but 716 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,879 Speaker 1: doesn't confront him, perhaps also showing Heidi that Alex has 717 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 1: some key flaws she may be able to take advantage 718 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 1: of later. 719 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 3: If they hit you once, then they'll hit you twice. 720 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 2: If they cheat on you once, they will cheat on 721 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 2: you twice. 722 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 1: Heidi Flice and her abusive pseudo boyfriend, Yvonne Naj are 723 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 1: breaking up and getting back together every week. Yvonne continues 724 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 1: beating Heidi up and threatening to kill her. She routinely 725 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 1: calls the cops to file complaints against him, but ultimately 726 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: withdraws them or the cases are abandoned because the cops 727 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 1: don't prioritize domestic violence complaints, which might have something to 728 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 1: do with the fact that more than a few of 729 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,720 Speaker 1: them engage in domestic violence themselves. When Heidi tells Yvonne 730 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 1: she is leaving him for good. He punches her in 731 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 1: the face. She flees to Madame Alex's side, who convinces 732 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,760 Speaker 1: her not to call the cops, fearing what Yvonne's wrath 733 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 1: will be like if she does. 734 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 7: He beat me up once when I was trying to 735 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 7: keep him from hurting Heidi. Poor Heidi didn't deserve Yvonne. 736 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 7: She was living with a monster. 737 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 1: Heidi stops talking to Yvonne Naj for six months, and 738 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: on May twenty third, nineteen eighty nine, she obtains a 739 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 1: restraining order against him. One of Heidi's best friends is 740 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 1: an eighteen year old actress and real estate agent named 741 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 1: Wendy Tar. In nineteen eighty nine, Tar is shot in 742 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 1: the head while showing an apartment in downtown LA during 743 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 1: an attempted Heidi sits by Tar's bedside for three days 744 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 1: while her friend is in a coma, and then dies. 745 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: According to Madame Alex, Tard worked as a call girl, 746 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,360 Speaker 1: she knew as quote Heidi's friend Bridget, and was trying 747 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,800 Speaker 1: to pivot to real estate full time when she was murdered. 748 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 1: Heidi is completely fucked up by all of this. She 749 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 1: feels powerless and like the system is telling her that 750 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,839 Speaker 1: her friend's death doesn't matter, so she writes a letter 751 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:32,400 Speaker 1: to a popular TV show called America's Most Wanted. America's 752 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 1: Most Wanted as a show where host John Walsh presents 753 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 1: unsolved cases and asks civilians to keep an eye out 754 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 1: and call in tips. Heidi appears on camera as a 755 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 1: talking head on America's Most Wanted in a segment that 756 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 1: airs February twenty fifth, nineteen ninety, asking the public to 757 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 1: provide information about the murder of her friend. She is 758 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,360 Speaker 1: frustrated that the cops are doing nothing and feels like 759 00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 1: the platform of being on TV might at least make Villians. 760 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 4: Look for the killer. 761 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 1: The day after the episode airs, her friend's killer, a 762 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 1: paroled rapist felon named James Edward Knowell, turns himself in 763 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:16,399 Speaker 1: and pleads guilty, eventually receiving a life sentence. From all 764 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,319 Speaker 1: of this, Heidi Flice learns a valuable lesson about the 765 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 1: power of mass media. 766 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 5: Fighting broke out overnight, frustrated, opening fire with. 767 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:45,720 Speaker 1: Next time on Heidi World, enter the world of Heidie's mentor, 768 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 1: Madam Alex as we trace her journey through a Catholic 769 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 1: girlhood in the Philippines, a nineteen fifties marriage in the 770 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 1: American suburbs, and a flower shop job at the Ambassador 771 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 1: Hotel that leads her to LA's sexual underground, and a 772 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 1: high end escort service in the sixties that blossoms into 773 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:08,400 Speaker 1: a very profitable, notorious business in the seventies and eighties 774 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 1: that leads her to meet a girl named Heidi Flice