WEBVTT - SYSTEMIC RACISM 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:09.559 It's a lot going on in the street, and you 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:12.119 grew a beard. So there we go. Yeah, you know 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:19.640 what I'm saying to big Big life. So first of all, 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:23.720 I'm in my bed, y'all, because unfortunately, if I showed 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:26.240 you guys like what it looks like in my entire 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:29.360 apartment because I have work being done on a major 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:34.400 part of my place, um, you would probably scream. So 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:36.199 I have to actually be in my bed. This is 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:39.920 not something that I would generally do on Live on 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:44.080 the Street politicians live. But we got to do what 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:47.879 we got to do. So what we're talking about. You 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:49.879 had the time that man, you had. You know, you 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:52.840 had the Internet going a little crazy because and I'm 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:56.360 not hear it all the time. I post on my 0:00:56.480 --> 0:01:03.360 page about things, and you know you post about let's say, yesterday, 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:07.959 Um I posted or I didn't even post. I just 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:12.120 seen yesterday that they attempted to hang him in like 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:14.000 some white some white people was in They were I 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:15.840 think they were on the camping trip or something, and 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:19.640 they approached some black dude and it was attempting to 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:21.880 hang him and some people called them and it's like 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:24.880 hey stop that stop that They got it on camera 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:28.600 and everything, and you'll post something like that and people 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:31.480 would say, oh, why you don't post about the violence 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:34.479 that's happening in black on black crimes that's going on, 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:38.800 you know, or your post I posted today? You know, 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:41.560 there was a video I don't know where how how 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:45.240 it created, I mean, what we created the situation, but 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:51.160 obviously there was some type of um disturbance inside. I 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:53.360 think it was a restaurant or something with a white 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:57.000 white man, a white woman her man, I guess, or 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:59.600 somebody was with her, and I guess she was having 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:02.760 some is was with some black people. So one of 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.280 the black ladies that she was having an issue would 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:07.840 look like she tried to grab all hit her and 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:12.280 the guy that was with her ted off from started 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:15.120 punching on like she was to do uppercutting. And a 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:19.320 black dude came out and he he toys asks up, 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:22.600 he let him up, you know. And then you have 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:25.520 people say, you know, yeah, you'll show that, but why 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:27.800 you don't talk about the black on black crime or 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:29.880 why you don't talk about the people that killed somebody 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:32.000 in the wrong and we and and it's so it's 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:34.880 so annoying to me, right and they and they don't 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:38.280 realize the correlation to all of these things. So there's 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:40.760 so many people that make it seem like, you know, 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:44.200 black people and in the communities, they just negative, they 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:47.280 just violent, These people just shooting each other because it's 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:50.360 just hid of y'all. You know, these people were just terrible, 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:55.320 They most evil, the most you know, demonized savages people 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:58.240 in the world. You know. And I've seen you make 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:03.880 a post about how systematic racism causes is the cause 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:06.280 for the violence of the black music, and you know, 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:08.200 and there's always people that, oh, you don't want to 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:11.400 be healthy, accountable, people just want to act like there's 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:14.480 nothing going on. Black people need to pull yourself by 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:18.360 the bootstraps and stop making excuses. And you can't blame 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:21.480 the white man everything. And I hear this bullshit over 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:25.960 over thousands, thousands towns, And you know, I'm so glad 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:30.040 that you posted that. So it gave us an opportunity 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:35.160 to have a conversation and delve deep into what systematic 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:38.720 and systemic racism is and how it really plays the 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:45.320 part you're talking, you know, you know, you know, I 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:49.680 heard about obviously a lot of the shootings that happened 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:52.520 over the weekend I was hearing about it. You know, 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:56.560 as we do, we get reports. Unfortunately add things are 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:59.880 happening from you know, I'm on you and I both 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:03.680 on one group in New York which is made up 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:09.760 of all the major anti violence groups and UM and 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:14.520 Park Park Jayton, We're gonna come right to your m 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:20.400 But all the major anti violence groups that are in 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:24.400 New York City are on a thread and we're constantly 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:26.760 back and forth. And you know, and I really am 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:29.280 more of a bystander, just kind of listening and and 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:34.760 figuring out how I can be helpful and UM. So 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:38.640 you unfortunately get to hear this happened at this time, 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:41.680 like it's in real time. You find out about things 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:44.280 that's going on. So and of course, even though it's 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:48.760 a group in New York, you share relationships and partnership 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:52.440 and family with people from all around the country, and 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:55.400 so you hear about incidents that are happening even before 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:58.880 the general public knows about, you know, different shootings. And 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:02.360 so I'm staring a lot about kids being killed. And 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:05.039 I mentioned in the post that I wrote last night 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:07.760 that for the over the last twenty five years of 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:12.839 my life, I have UM unfortunately helped to bury a 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:15.719 lot of kids, um, you know a lot of kids, 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.880 you know, and and I guess the one case that 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:23.400 is the most significant to me, not that any child, 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:25.800 like I guess all of them are significant, but the 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:31.040 one that I really literally helped with everything and getting 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:37.040 him a casket that was um fit for his side. 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:39.960 He was too small for the other caskets, he was 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:42.520 too small for a big too big for a baby casket, 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:46.400 but too small for any of the other caskets, and 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:50.080 so um we had to have a special casket board 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:54.760 in And it was for young Christopher Lloyd Morgan UM 0:05:55.040 --> 0:06:01.840 and his parents Lloyd and Um. And it whether or 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:03.480 not they don't even need to be given out his 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:10.960 parents name. The bottom line is that that particular service, 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:16.480 that funeral, it really mice tore like something into my 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.520 soul to watch these people, this family, I mean, I 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:22.919 guess Cheyenne doesn't doesn't mind me talking about her because 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:26.919 she's told her story a million times, But to watch 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:33.960 her bury her baby was so incredibly painful for me. 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.840 I have never been able to erase the image of 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:40.599 that baby in that casket. I've never been able to 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:44.799 get that out of my mind. It was so painful, 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:47.920 and to watch her family go through the turmoil, and 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:52.240 she had another child and other you know, her mom 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:55.000 and all of what they suffered. And so I know 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:58.599 all too well that what happens, you know, to a 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:01.680 family when a child dis killed, is like no other 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:06.159 pain in the world. So this is not about excusing 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:15.240 those individuals responsible for killing Um Young. In fact, when 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:19.760 I think about it, um we went to court, we 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:25.920 actually need to court, then into court and sat with 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:30.160 her while she had to face her children's murderers. And 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:34.160 so I don't think that anyone is saying I know 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:37.040 for sure that no one that I know that's in 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:41.440 the anti violence world, people doing this work for many years. 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:45.640 No one is saying that it's acceptable, that there is 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:49.000 a there's an excuse that can be made for it, 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:52.880 that it is uh, you know, it's it's it's okay, 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:57.200 or that anyone who challenges these individuals is wrong, or 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:01.160 that we are going to challenge their parents for saying 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:04.600 that they want to see um that that these that 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:07.400 the individuals that are responsible for killing their kids are 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:10.360 health responsible. I don't think anyone is saying that I know, 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:14.600 I'm not I'm not that's not that's not the point. 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:18.920 But what we know, or at least what I know, 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:26.160 is that this particular type of of of activity or 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:33.040 or or horrific action really only takes place in certain communities. 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:37.880 So I'm really trying to go slow with this so 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:43.200 we can really break it down because unpack. It's a 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:45.720 lot to unpack, and it's hard when you move fastward 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:48.520 because people be like, I know, I do not miss it. Okay, 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:52.280 we're gonna take We're gonna take our time to wet time. 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:57.439 We got time. So we're gonna break it down slow. Okay. 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:02.720 So it only happens in certain communities. So when I 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:05.680 go to hey, Derek, my brother, I love you. It's 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:09.920 not like when I go to the black community in 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:17.640 Beverly Hills, or in Buckhead, or in on Strivers Road 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:20.360 or those Strivers Row in Manhattan is very close to 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:24.839 you know, Edge Home and other places. But I'm just saying, 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:28.480 you get the point. I go into those places and 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:31.920 I bring those places because black people live in Beverly Hills, 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:35.800 black ship live in um and and what's the other 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:41.880 place in u uh no, no, no, But in the 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:45.880 other place I said, in Buckhead, black people live in Buckhead. 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:51.880 The black people live in um in uh Strivers Row 0:09:51.960 --> 0:10:00.520 in Manhattan, and Harlem, in Edgewater, New Jersey. Puts give 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:05.319 us some other places where black people live in these 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:12.160 rich areas. These things don't happen there. Now, what some 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:16.280 people will try to have us believe, Mice. I want 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:25.959 to say, is that kids who lives in the Bronx, Yeah, 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:31.800 it is different somehow mechanically like their makeup from the 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:38.160 child who grew up in Edgewater. Check that. I think 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:44.920 all these children are born the same. But then something happens. 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:48.640 So now you want to pick it up because I 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:52.120 don't want to. Can. I know you you you use teaching, 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:56.280 use teaching. So there there is, there is, and this 0:10:56.320 --> 0:11:02.440 is what my whole conversation is. There is a direct correlization. 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:09.480 And I made up a word, my fault, correlization. It's correlation. 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:17.640 There's a direct correlation to poverty en violence. You know, 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:21.440 there is a direct correlation. They are they are connected 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:29.120 at the hip. And that's why when you say that there, 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:33.520 when you talk about that, black people are you know, 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:38.200 are prevalent in out that where there is not poverty, 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:41.520 there is not violence that follows. So that shows that 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:44.280 we're but it's not just that black people are just negative, 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:49.520 violent people. There is something that is causing violence. And 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:54.120 when we talk about poverty, poverty in our communities is 0:11:54.160 --> 0:12:08.000 a direct effect of systemic racist going through fast fact. Okay, 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:12.559 let's tell me the problems. Some people are not even 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:19.400 clear how the poverty does even have. Let me let 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.600 me okay, let me break down to the poverty creates 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:27.000 the violence. Because look, you're in a community, right, you 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:31.560 wake up hungry, Right, that's that's the first thing. You 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:37.720 wake up hungry. That causes trauma, and the trauma eventually 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:42.360 leads to mental health issues. Right. A lot of these 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:46.480 people who are committing violence are doing two things. They're 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:50.280 trying to eat and they're dealing with mental health issues. 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:54.320 So you go outside after you're hungry. Right, you don't 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:57.920 have much money. The only vision of success that you 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:02.160 have in your community is the drug dealer. Right, the 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:05.880 drug dealer comes outside. He has the nice clothes you want, 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:09.360 he has to the car you want, he got the 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:13.880 girl you want, he got everything. You woke up hungry 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:16.920 because the food stamps that they said and then didn't 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.680 feed everybody, because you got about six and seven brothers 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:23.800 and sisters, you know, and there's not you you want. 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:26.280 This is this is your situation you was born into 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:29.400 as a young boy. You didn't you didn't just didn't 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:31.480 do your job. You came into. You were born to 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:35.160 a project household where it's not much going on. It's 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:38.240 three bedrooms and it's about ten or fifteen y'all you're 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.840 sleeping on and you wake up, you frustrated, your little 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:44.640 sister and Pete in the bed. There's pistons in the mattress. 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:47.400 You hunt all these things you dealer when you come outside, 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.720 and the drug dealer got the brand new Jordan's you want, 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:52.920 and the girl you could try to talk about something. 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:56.400 My acutity is you ain't. It's no doctor to the 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:59.440 next door to you, ain't no lawyer that next door 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:02.080 to you. The only vision of success or the person 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:05.599 that you see closest to the proximity of success is 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.920 this drug. Because where did the doctors go and the lawyer? 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:12.800 The doctors and the lawyers don't went to Beverly Hills. 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:17.760 They they didn't. They didn't stay here and tell you 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.320 how to be a doctor. And the lawyer they didn't 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:24.520 give you no, no, no, no, you know, no blueprint. 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.040 They didn't give you anything possible, They didn't let you 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:30.440 know anything that you was able to do was absolutely 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:36.880 no nothing. So what happens is now you was left 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:40.360 with the drug deal you know, and he don't know. 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:44.320 And it's not just the drug dealer, because the drug 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:47.520 dealer is there. Yes, that is true, and you've talked 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:49.920 about that. So I think that's very personal for you 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:53.400 that the drug dealer became someone that you saw and 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:58.400 sort of idolized, if you will. Right, But David John says, 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:01.760 there was no cliff notes. They was just it was nothing. 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:07.280 It was just literally and and and someone else says, 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:09.840 here we got to talk to our Our father was 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:13.560 Nate Jones, who I love much, said, and she said, 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:15.920 you gotta sell some of them stamps because the food 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.000 stamps by the day. But so you gotta sell some 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:21.960 of them stamps, right, but talk about it, he said. 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:25.480 The fathers, where were the fathers? The father is there, 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:29.160 your father is there. Sometimes the father is there, But 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:34.520 the father who is there is working for uh the 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:38.960 bus what you call it, uh m t A maybe 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:43.680 driving a train. You left out image in the household 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:46.240 and of of a man who's working hard. But he 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:49.560 doesn't look shiny like the dude on the street. But 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:54.160 that is old school mine. You're talking old school, you're 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:58.720 speaking from Okay, so now we're talking about the skin 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:02.160 the scammera now, but I ain't even talking about the 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:05.200 scam because the old school. What I'm saying is old 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:09.080 schools that drug dealers in the community, and therefore you 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:11.920 got to see him in a certain way. Now it's 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:17.560 on your cell phone. Everybody on your cell phone, on 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:25.400 on instag it's late, they're rich, they everybody. Everybody on 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:29.400 your cell phone is literally lit like everybody even if 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:33.960 you got nothing, they are lit on the cell phone. 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:39.800 So these are these are the things that you're she said, 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:43.240 the weak minded individuals. Well, the problem with that, with 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.920 that philosop sided people, all the weak minded individuals now 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:51.320 ain't a attentative people fall to that same reality like 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:55.280 we don't you don't We figure it out later. You 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:58.560 understand I'm saying. But for the most part, everybody's trying 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:01.280 to be lit. When you're young. We ain't sitting there, 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:04.359 We ain't got this events mind saying, Yo, you know, 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:06.800 don't do that. That's not what we're going for. We're 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:09.600 going forward was lit. We're going forwards hot. We want 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:14.320 nice things? Why don't we want nice thing? I young, 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.320 when I was a young girl, I say this in 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:21.119 my documentary, I wanted to be married to a drug 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:25.359 dealer because when I asked my parents for stuff, they 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:30.040 told me, you can't have that. I ain't buying that. 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:32.880 That's stupid. This is that I'm not spending that kind 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:35.800 of money on these things and that thing. So that's 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:40.680 what I learned. Now I'm just saying, I'm talking about 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:46.080 Tamika Mallory. There is a direct line between what I 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:49.080 was looking for when I was young. I wanted to 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:51.520 be married to a drug dealer. And then I met 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:56.399 my baby father and he was working in a print shop. 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:59.360 He was working in a print shop at a at 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:02.240 a law for he was he was he was tempting 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:06.080 at night, making copies of the legal documents for the 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:09.639 next day. His brother had him doing that job. But 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:13.919 I wanted things, so I would say I want this, 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:16.680 I want that, I don't understand it this and that 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:19.800 you can't do nothing for me. That that that was 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:23.399 doing the net vib and the whole thing. And guess 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:27.760 what happened next thing, you know, he started selling weeds 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:31.040 trying to keep up. It wasn't just me, but I'm 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:34.199 I'm I'm taking full responsibility because I don't really give 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:38.760 a funk with anybody thinks I'm telling the truth. He started, 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:42.159 he started selling weeds, and that was just supposed to 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:45.600 be some extra money on the side. But guess what, 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:50.359 within X amount of years the weed turned into a 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:52.560 little bit of weed that went to a lot of 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:55.520 bit of weeds that went to him being killed because 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:59.359 of um you know, folks saying that he sold drugs 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:02.159 or whatever. Some that the head was drug related, and 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:05.399 come to find out when it was all said and done, 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:08.240 another young lady said she was piste off with the 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:10.919 guy who lived in the house and so she stole 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:14.320 the drugs. And yet my baby Frother was blamed for it. 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:16.960 He was shot and killed. He was left in the 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:21.520 dish for two weeks before he was discovered. So, you know, 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:25.479 for us, like some people think, oh, you guys are 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:30.480 out here just fighting, um uh for against police brutality, 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:34.280 but you're not really doing anything about the issue of 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:36.840 fix my camera. If they all on me about get 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:42.480 it together, um um sorry. You know, some people feel 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:46.719 like well, you know, they just out here fighting police brutality. 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:49.720 They're not really dealing with the issue of violence in 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:52.880 our community. And I'm like, yo, part of it might 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:58.119 just be our fault that we haven't really expressed to people, 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:03.120 um what we do and our real stories. Maybe they 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:05.359 just haven't heard it. Maybe they are a lot of 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:09.159 new followers, people who don't really know our stories. But 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:12.840 we're not talking about stuff that is far, you know, 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:15.359 away from us, or things that we can't touch and 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:18.080 feel and smell and taste every day, because this is 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:25.040 actually our lived experiences, right and that's pretty much what 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:27.880 it is. And so when we break down these situations, 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:32.840 when I talk about how, you know, what my experience 0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:38.720 growing up young was, I understand how that reality created violence, 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:43.560 created and talking about I was talking about how, you know, 0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:45.719 how we really grew up poor, you know, and how 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:50.680 could the crackt error in our community completely wiped us out, 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:53.920 you know, and it made us It created mental health, 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:58.119 it created trauma, it created poverty, created all of those things. 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:01.639 And those things come from somewhere, you know. People just oh, 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:04.320 you just made bad decisions. Everybody has to be responsible 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:08.080 for the decisions, which your decisions is based on your choices. 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:13.399 You understand what I'm saying. I'm I'm quite sure, okay, 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:15.960 so let me explain to you. Your decision is based 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:19.399 on your choices. Now you have okay, hey, there's no 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:25.840 food in refrigerator, you can not eat. Hey, you can 0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:28.760 go access neighbor to see if maybe they have something, 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:32.720 which they probably won't be when you can see go 0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:37.199 outside and probably steal something to see d or you 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:40.320 can go out and hustle and pretty much not you know, 0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:42.520 figure out when your own and make your own money. 0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:45.320 But you can have more money for even more than 0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:48.200 just groceries. You can actually have some sneakers that don't 0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:52.359 have holes in it, right, and what comes with that, 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:55.600 A lot of people in the community are choosing indeed, 0:21:56.119 --> 0:21:58.480 because you don't really want to steal. You know what 0:21:58.520 --> 0:22:00.080 I'm saying. You want to make your own money that 0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:02.480 you don't want to starve, you don't want to be hungry. 0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:04.679 So a lot of people in your same community are 0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:09.679 choosing indeed. Now what happens was d is everybody can't 0:22:09.720 --> 0:22:12.960 make money in the same place because if you make 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:16.240 it money he making money, then all the people that 0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:18.800 hustle on it's not really making no money. So what 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:21.760 happens is you realize that in order for you to 0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:26.000 actually make money, there has to be some level of 0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:29.080 violence that comes with this situation, because you gotta make 0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:31.480 them believe like, you can't just hustle on his block 0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:33.960 because I can't pay the money if we all hustle 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:36.760 on the same corner, because everybody ain't coming and buy 0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:39.399 the same drugs, and everybody ain't coming to buy the 0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:43.200 same somebody. Somebody can't work it. So what happens is 0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:46.119 the toughest person is the one that gets to be 0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:48.520 able to make the money on the block. So you 0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:51.960 learn that just by watching whoever they're scared of is 0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:54.920 the person that's able to make them money. So you 0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:59.440 start to adopt that mentality. And what happens is everybody 0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:01.800 else to die tell you, so they have to prove 0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:04.440 to you that you're toughing in them or they're tough 0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:07.239 than you. And then what happens after they starts out 0:23:07.320 --> 0:23:11.080 with fist fights on the block, it turns into the guns. 0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:15.359 And this is all these things are creative because people 0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:23.520 just don't want to be hungry. I put you fast, yo, 0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:25.919 you gotta slow it down for the people in the 0:23:25.960 --> 0:23:28.280 back because they can't hear you in the back. Ok 0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:35.000 that doesn't mean that we're not saying we don't want 0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:37.439 to see violence. Man, I wish Erica could be in 0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:40.680 this conversation. But they got to do better with this 0:23:40.720 --> 0:23:43.560 where we can have more than one person on Instagram 0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:48.960 at one Instagram, you gotta start getting three or four ways, 0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:54.320 you know, exactly. And my brother is on here flawless, um, flawless, 0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:57.119 n T. He's on here talking about how like I 0:23:57.240 --> 0:24:00.240 was mad young. That's the thing about lived experience is 0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:05.480 I was like fourteen and fifteen years old after my 0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:09.679 brother had been shot several times and he was in jail, 0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:13.760 and I was traveling on buses back and forth to 0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:16.840 go see him in jail. I was I was going 0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:19.600 to the grocery store helping my mother to pack up 0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:22.960 boxes to ship him to send him, to help him 0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:28.280 in his situation. Like this is our live experience, Okay. 0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:32.280 And he he was not born a bad person, he 0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:37.800 was not born angry and evil. Actually, he's a very sweet, kind, 0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:45.719 thoughtful and loving person. Actually. However, however, based upon the 0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:48.080 fact that he is not my mother's child, this is 0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:51.359 actually he's actually my cousin who we lived. I lived 0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:54.080 with him, so he is my brother, but he's my cousin. 0:24:54.600 --> 0:24:57.640 He lived in a situation where his father was deceased 0:24:57.640 --> 0:25:00.920 when he was very young. He lived with his mother, 0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:05.959 who had little means. They lived in a certain community 0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:09.119 that was very violent. It was very rough, it was 0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:15.400 very challenged, and he's he became a victim of his environment. 0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:20.240 So now someone saying, we want to discuss George Sorrows, 0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:25.960 whatever your questions are, please, I need or George Sorrows 0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:29.120 to give him some money. He's applying. He is asked 0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:34.400 many times, I got the fellowship last year. We are yes, 0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:37.120 we I got some money from George Sorrows. My son 0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:40.640 did not. He's trying. So I'm trying because I hate 0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:44.000 giving up money and free money to please free because 0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:48.080 I have to work. I got a project. But anyway, um, 0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:50.960 you know, I mean, people try to make it seem 0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:56.520 like they're doing some gotcha thing like so anyway, um, 0:25:56.640 --> 0:26:00.040 that's how I lived experience, and when you it resonates 0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:02.679 with me when you talk about the crack addiction. My 0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:05.639 parents were not addicted to crack, right, That's something that 0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:08.000 I didn't have to deal with. So I did a 0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:10.760 little bit better than most of the people around me. 0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:14.800 But down the hall from me, I lived in in 0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:18.560 a project on a in a project building where there 0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:22.560 was twenty floors, and on each floor there were four 0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:27.600 apartments for three four so it was eight nine, eleven, 0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:33.080 eleven apartments on each floor. Every other door had people 0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:38.880 addicted to crack. Sverrely, I'm not listen. I was born 0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:42.280 in nineteen eighty. I'm not talking about people addicted to 0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:45.439 crack today, because I understand there's a difference between the 0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:50.200 today crack addicts and the crack addicts of nineteen eighty. 0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:55.399 They were severely addicted to crack cocaine. This was the 0:26:55.520 --> 0:26:59.240 first time in the in the and and I think 0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:03.760 in our exact sense that black women would sell their children, 0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:06.960 the children. And this is not this is not a bullshit. 0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:10.199 They were selling their their bodies and their children. They 0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:15.000 was literally leaving their children in the crackhouse as collateral 0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:18.800 to come back for cracks, saying listen, you can hold 0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:20.480 my baby if you don't think I'll come back, and 0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:24.040 leaving the baby with the drug dealer for weeks at 0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:29.080 a time. Newborn babies, man like, I literally seen this 0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:33.240 like I watched these things happen. I watched women who 0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:36.160 I've seen who are nine the five working every day, 0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:40.480 the most beautiful, smart people in the world was outside 0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:43.479 knocking on doors saying they would do anything in the 0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:46.760 world just to get a hit like this. And we 0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:52.560 we learned because it has now proven and recording that 0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:59.800 crack cocaine was implanted in our communities, that the federal 0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:05.680 government had lots to do with how crack cocaine became 0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:10.000 prevalent in the Black community. And I think it's important 0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:13.879 for us too, because we gotta swing back because I 0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:17.840 know Cat is gonna get on us our producer about 0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:23.760 staying on point about white supremacy and about systemic racism 0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:27.240 and how there are some people who do not understand 0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:32.159 the connection between the ways in which our communities have 0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:36.679 been literally designed. Like right, they say that the c 0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:40.160 i A. Someone Nicole is saying exactly the c I 0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:47.360 A Is reported to having been engaged in ensuring that 0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:50.880 crack cocaine was and dope and all of those things 0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:54.360 were prevalent in the black community. So we what we 0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:57.160 what we? What we? What we? And that's why I 0:28:57.200 --> 0:29:00.560 wrote in my last post last night, we have a 0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:04.880 We don't understand because when you hear white supremacy, people 0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:08.720 start saying, well, white people didn't run up and actually 0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:13.800 shoot and kill the black people or children. We're talking 0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:20.320 about people. We're talking about the system, system, system. Take 0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:24.400 You could take Johnny out the system and put in 0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:28.640 uh Mark Jack and it was the system was still run. 0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:33.880 The same world will continue to run because the system 0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:39.360 has been designed in a way that is set up 0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:48.520 to keep our communities oppressed, dependent and broken and violence 0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:53.560 exactly violence. This people don't understand when you say systems, 0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:57.200 racism and what you they don't understand what capitalism is 0:29:57.200 --> 0:30:01.200 built on. Capitalism is built on the fact that there 0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:06.240 will be a lower class. There has to be a bottom, 0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:10.160 and this structure was built with black people to stay 0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:16.520 at the bottom. The main structures that are funding capitalism 0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:23.600 is the prison industrialism and the prison industrialism incorporations. And 0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:27.240 they invest in the bottom. They invest in us killing 0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:30.560 each other, they're invest in us dying, they invest in 0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:35.880 us being a consumer. Everything about capitalism is built on 0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:40.760 the back of black empore people in the world. That 0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:43.920 is how they make their money. They make their money 0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:46.400 betting on the fact that we will go to jail, 0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:51.520 that we will die fast, that we will overpopulate the prisons, 0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:54.760 that we will um spend most of our money into 0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:58.160 anything that they put out. This is how this structure 0:30:58.200 --> 0:31:01.280 has been So when we talk about system make racism, 0:31:01.320 --> 0:31:04.240 that is what is built on. It's understanding that, Okay, 0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:06.800 we're gonna make sure that they have access to guns, 0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:09.520 even though they don't make any guns in the community. 0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:12.160 We're gonna make sure that they have abundant of access 0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:15.200 to guns so that they can continue to kill each other, 0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:17.360 so that we can continue to lock them up and 0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:22.360 make billions and trillions of dollars a year. I'm laughing 0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:24.360 because people are talking to me in the comments, but no, 0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:38.920 and we are don't. He just wanted some batteries. His 0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:44.120 mother can batteries. Um that that we have to understand 0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:49.040 that when you and I and I really mean my 0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:53.480 slow slow for real, because I'm telling you last night, 0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:57.240 I sat up for two hours and talk to people 0:31:57.240 --> 0:32:01.320 in the in the comments that are lost, they don't know. 0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:05.680 They think that this is about locking up Ray Ray 0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:10.360 now that you can lock up and the violence in 0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:21.600 our communities because the same the same position and if 0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:25.520 you can't change his conditions, You cannot change his reality. 0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:29.560 This is why when you look at our rappers, when 0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:32.280 you look at our rappers, when you look at our athletes, 0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:35.240 when you look at all of our people who acclimate 0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:37.920 to a level of success, if you watch how they 0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:41.280 come into the business, as to how the mind state changes, 0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:45.360 and how they're able even able to capitalize and monopolize 0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:48.160 any of these industries. When you look at fifties, I 0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:52.920 teach courses. I sit down and teach educators about They asked, 0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:56.120 why are we not able to grab the bonds of 0:32:56.240 --> 0:33:00.600 these young geniuses in elementary school and junior high school? 0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:04.320 How do people like jay Z don't even go or 0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:07.120 graduate high school? How does fifty cent of them drop 0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:09.719 out of junior high school high school? How aren't we 0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:13.040 able to capitalize on these young brilliant minds. And it's 0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:17.320 because the structures, and it's in the poverty and all 0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:20.080 the things going on around us. There's not a lot 0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:23.040 of us to be to be in golf, in school 0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:25.800 and the structure of school that it's not meant to 0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:28.959 really teach us or teach us how to be the 0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:33.280 entrepreneurs that other white white counterparts. Again, so we're not 0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:36.080 even grabbing onto that we're dealing with. So to listen 0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:39.240 to me. I was dealing with so much ship in school, 0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:41.720 I mean in my home that by the time I 0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:44.080 was probably one of the most intelligent my kid. My 0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:47.040 teachers to tell you that from kindergarten through a high school, 0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:49.440 I was one of the most intelligent kids. But I 0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:52.520 was dealing with so much trauma and ship in my school. 0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:57.240 It was from you mean my home. I was dealing 0:33:57.240 --> 0:34:02.080 with so much trauma in my home. That why I 0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:04.920 was dealing with the drugs in my household. I was 0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:08.759 dealing with domestic violence in my household where they was 0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:11.839 up fighting half the night, or one of them wasn't there. 0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:13.799 Me and my sister was in the household night. We're 0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:16.440 worried about where they where. They had eight and nine 0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:19.359 years old. There's nobody in the house. You're waking up, 0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:21.359 you hungry, you scared to death. You don't know if 0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:23.600 they killed your mother out there because you know she 0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:26.120 was getting high. You know, you don't know what's going 0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:28.360 on your My father died when I was twelve, So 0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:32.200 it was so many different things and and you you 0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:34.520 had to call the police. Police knocking on your door. 0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:36.880 Some nights, the drug dealer knocking on your door to 0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:39.440 out your mother didn't come with his money where she 0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:42.279 had and you know what I'm saying, it's it was 0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:44.279 so much that you had to deal with as a kid. 0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:46.359 Police knocking money door because your mother and your father 0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:49.360 was fighting all night, so the neighbor then called the police. 0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:52.399 Y'all had to sleep in the police presept because your 0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:56.320 mother don't pushed charges. And then you know you, you 0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:59.120 you up all night, you had eight You scared the death. 0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:01.080 You don't know what's going You got to go to 0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:04.120 school tomorrow and try to try to pay attention to 0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:06.880 what's going on school, and nobody knows why you lashing. Now, 0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:09.719 nobody knows why you're angry, and they're telling you you 0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:13.680 gotta behavior problems. Now those behavior problems. Somebody teasing you 0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:15.799 about the sneakers you had. So now you get into 0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:19.120 a fight. Now you you're in the principle's office. Your 0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:22.279 mother's mad because she was getting asked and now she 0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:24.759 gotta come to school and talk about you. So now 0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:27.759 she ready with your ass. Uh, so much ship that 0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:33.040 you're dealing with class. By the time you get the class, 0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:37.439 the white teacher that about already told you that you'll 0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:40.520 be dead by the time you're seventeen years old. You know, 0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:42.720 my third grade teacher told me that I'll die before 0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:44.400 I was eighteen, or I'll be in jail for the 0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:47.960 rest of my life. So nobody understands that. So now 0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:50.319 when you're tired of being you tired of deal, you 0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:52.600 figuring out. I gotta get out this house. So I gotta, 0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:54.920 I gotta help my mother. I gotta, I gotta me 0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:57.000 and my sister can't live here. We gotta figure it out. 0:35:57.040 --> 0:35:59.880 My little sister was selling drugs before she was twelve. 0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:03.680 She was on planes but fucking cocaine inside of her body. 0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:06.480 I didn't know about this. She was coming back giving 0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:09.960 me a thousand. So my my little sister introduced me 0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:12.360 to hustle in the street because she was tired of 0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:15.399 us being broken, people picking on us. So this, this 0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:17.600 is what you don't understand. So people, this all you're 0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:19.960 just a savage. And this is now you outside the 0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:22.840 people picking on you. You're not gonna let nobody hurt you. 0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:25.600 Your sister because it's just you and hug and and 0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:29.400 and she's small, she's sucking ninety pounds with the biggest 0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:32.319 mouth in the world. So you gotta protect her, you 0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:33.879 know what I'm saying. So you gotta fight for her, 0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:36.920 and you can't be sold. So now it's nothing all 0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:42.120 you have surrounding, it's testoster on the ego and violence 0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:43.960 and all this. So you want to become that. That's 0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:46.160 like in your nature. You're a good kid. He was 0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:49.239 a smart kid. You played. You was one of the 0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:52.400 smartest kids in your community. Everybody knew you was smart. 0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:55.920 But you didn't have the opportunity to capitalize on none 0:36:55.960 --> 0:37:02.200 of that. Ship. You couldn't catch your because your friends 0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:04.839 around you was like, yo, we remember the first time man, 0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:07.319 I still crack was in nineteen I think it was 0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:10.360 eighty six, eight five or eighty six. My friend showed 0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:12.880 me cracker said it's gonna get us rich. God blessed 0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:15.200 that when said this is gonna get us and I said, 0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:17.960 I'm not selling that. I wanted to do with drugs, 0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:21.440 And next thing I know, they had man and everything, 0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:24.160 you know, and I was still trying to do the right. 0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:27.480 It wasn't my reality. I was tired of being her, 0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:30.759 not having enough. I was tired of trying to go 0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:33.520 to school, and having to hop the train to go 0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:37.759 to John J. College because you got birth bit, you know, 0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:41.520 And I don't want to and I don't want I 0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:44.480 don't want to cut you off because people need to 0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:50.400 understand this, like deeply, like deeply deeply understand because in 0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:53.759 the in the projects where I lived, I didn't even 0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:57.960 have parents that was messed up on drugs, but the 0:37:58.080 --> 0:38:03.919 sirens all night and the sounds of the drama, and 0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:07.560 and my neighbor having to give my mother her money 0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:10.479 every month when she or every whatever time they got 0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:13.360 their welfare check, so my mother could hide the money 0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:16.719 because her children were so messed up on crack and 0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:20.120 they would throw her down the stairs and her money 0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:23.359 and they will fight their mother. And then they had 0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:26.400 children that were my age that were also dealing with 0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:30.840 a whole lot like our community. And and mind you, 0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:35.239 the mere fact that that can be going on uptown 0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:40.799 and then downtown like whenever you had to go downtown, 0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:44.879 was like, why ain't how they live in so good? 0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:50.799 Like how what? How is it so different in these 0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:55.040 two areas? And it makes me think about people. So 0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:58.080 I want to bring us to like right now, but 0:38:58.200 --> 0:39:03.839 I mean, yo, we need whole live on how I 0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:13.080 grew up. And you want by white people specifically, like 0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:15.640 I want white people. I'm ain't talking about black folks. 0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:19.720 I want white people to sit and watch and listen 0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:24.040 to many of us to tell stories about how I 0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:29.359 grew up. It's people that know how we grew up 0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:32.000 to Mika, and one of two of them might have 0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:33.880 made it off the block. Like, you know, it's a 0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:35.520 dude on my page. I don't want to bring up 0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:38.240 their name, but this thing was one of the first 0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:42.359 talking about who was one of the people. Know, it's 0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:46.759 a dude that's that he comes on my page. Yeah, 0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:51.040 I'm not bringing No, I'm not talking about that crews. No, 0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:53.320 I'm not talking I ain't getting mother that I'm talking about. 0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:56.200 It's dudes on my page that come from my community. 0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:58.200 And I watched these dudes sit on the corner and 0:39:58.280 --> 0:40:02.040 hustle and sell drugs for years, Like this was one 0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:04.200 of the and they finally made it out. You know, 0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:06.560 they got something, you know, they changed their life around. 0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:10.440 And now every post is everybody's a savage in the 0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:14.319 community and they need to die and don't blame us 0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:16.960 because we did the right thing. And I'm like, brother, 0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:19.160 you you was going to see block I was on. 0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:22.359 I watched you. You contributed. You saw some of these 0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:25.120 these kids mother's dogs. You're the reason some of them 0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:28.200 was was crack babies. You understand saying now you better 0:40:28.239 --> 0:40:33.200 than everybody. Now everybody need to figure it out. Everybody's 0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:35.319 a thug and all this because you figured out how 0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:38.600 to move past that, like weird And that's the mentally. 0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:40.480 I watched a lot of people come from and it's 0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:43.000 like brother, and they're like, I did it. You could 0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:46.480 do it too. No, listen to me. The understand that 0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:49.000 you are the exception, not the rule. Because if ninety 0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:51.680 percent of the people ain't doing the ship you're doing, 0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:54.520 it's something because it's a reason why you know what 0:40:54.520 --> 0:41:00.359 I'm saying, like, oh my god, that's about I gotta 0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:03.279 do a bell because that's the whole thing. Well, I 0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:06.959 know some people who figured it out and they made 0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:11.200 it out. Yeah, sure, ship, there's a few of us 0:41:11.520 --> 0:41:13.719 that have made it out. But you always got to 0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:18.080 ask yourself, where's the majority? Where does where's the line 0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:27.840 of majority? It's the exception and not the rule, and 0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:30.000 that's it. And when you realize that you're the exception, 0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:31.960 not the rule, and you stop holding people to a 0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:35.480 stay because to be successful coming from our community, it 0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:40.879 takes this. It takes skill, It takes drive, it takes push, 0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:44.880 it takes luck, It takes everything to happen at the 0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:49.759 exact same time perfectly perfectly, because you don't because if 0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:51.880 you think you just did it because you're just smaller, 0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:54.399 and you know you like I'm telling people, they said 0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:56.320 I wasn't lucky at what told I said, Well, listen, 0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:59.360 you could have been the Central Park five. You're lucky. 0:41:59.840 --> 0:42:03.040 You could have been colde Prouder. They didn't that wrong, 0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:06.440 but they lost half their life in prison. So when 0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:08.880 you when you don't realize that that could have been, 0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:11.520 you could have been a young boy, another young boy 0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:13.799 that just got shot walking down the plot who just 0:42:13.880 --> 0:42:18.879 didn't make it. When you come from our communities, there 0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:22.000 is a very large element of luck that you are. 0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:25.960 That you you got. You know what I'm saying, that 0:42:26.000 --> 0:42:28.160 you got to be some successful because a lot of 0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:30.319 people that didn't do nothing that was on it. The 0:42:30.360 --> 0:42:32.759 young boy the other day, seventeen years old, they said 0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:35.680 he was on his way to get a college scholarship. 0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:41.680 He ain't here today. And it's not just that it's 0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:47.040 so evil that he that's not okay, but wait, I'm 0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:49.680 losing the point that I think is important. I want 0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:54.839 us to go back to the children of today and 0:42:54.960 --> 0:43:02.920 what is and how does systemic racism into what we see? Okay, 0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:12.680 talking about social constructs, communities that are constructive in a 0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:16.279 certain way. Right. So they asked the question, what is 0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:18.960 the difference or at least I propose, what's the difference 0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:25.480 between systemic racism and systematic racism? Hold on, let me 0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:29.320 see Tony lindsay. He said, black people have been conditioned 0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:34.480 to see exceptions as rules. Um, whether it is the 0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:37.920 ones who made it out or the black on black 0:43:37.960 --> 0:43:41.840 crime skate go into the ones who commit crimes exactly, Okay, 0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:45.520 come back to you. So from what And I was 0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:49.560 thinking of what's the easiest way to explain the difference 0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:53.799 between the two. From a systemic okay, you can't see me, 0:43:54.040 --> 0:43:59.960 what is happening? Okay? From a from a systemic racist 0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:05.799 is um systematic? Let's talk about systematic. First, tramatic racism. 0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:13.480 It means the district attorney decides that he is going 0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:16.240 to you know you you you finally elect a district 0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:19.879 attorney like say Ken Thompson in Brooklyn. He was an 0:44:19.880 --> 0:44:24.120 amazing uh a district attorney, which we didn't always agree 0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:25.879 with that, but he did a lot of good work. 0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:28.279 So you so you do the work right because you're like, yo, 0:44:28.360 --> 0:44:32.280 the previous district attorney was sending mad people to jail 0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:36.279 right for crimes they didn't commit that. He was a 0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:39.880 crook and he was terrible. So you get the people together, 0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:43.120 the people like, we're gonna vote, and we're going to 0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:47.200 make sure that that we that we elect. Somebody knew, 0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:50.360 So then you get a new district attorney. And then 0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:55.000 that district attorney goes into these courtrooms and finds out 0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:59.839 that the judge and other people who are working within 0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:04.680 court system are literally working together, like the ones in 0:45:04.800 --> 0:45:10.360 Philly who were literally sending boys to prison for crimes 0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:13.800 at higher rates so that they can feed them into 0:45:14.200 --> 0:45:16.719 the system, so they can go to jail and make 0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:20.600 products and whatever else and become products of the state, 0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:25.200 so that the prison system could stay wealthy and and 0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:28.399 and and full of people. Right. So that's that's systematic. 0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:33.400 That means planned that people were involved that even though 0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:36.279 you may have had one good person trying to do 0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:38.680 the right thing, they got they get hit with a 0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:42.680 wall because they come up against people like the judges 0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:46.799 and others who are working together and they are conspiring 0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:50.080 for a particular goal, which is the prison schools, so 0:45:50.120 --> 0:45:53.839 that money can can can continue to flow within certain communities. 0:45:55.239 --> 0:45:59.680 It's how you can see systematic. It planned, its scheduled, 0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:04.880 it's very intentional. But now when you start talking about 0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:13.600 systemic racism, systemic racism looks like no knock warrants, like 0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:20.480 what killed Brianna Taylor, being active in a particular community 0:46:20.480 --> 0:46:24.080 where they only use no knock warrants on black folks 0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:27.040 and brown folks and people in poor communities. But they 0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:29.680 can just show up at your house, kick your door down, 0:46:30.000 --> 0:46:33.319 come into your house, and if you protect yourself, they 0:46:33.360 --> 0:46:36.560 can kill you with impunity and say, oh, well that 0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:41.120 doesn't that The reason why that systemic is because it 0:46:41.160 --> 0:46:44.719 doesn't matter which officer was involved. It could have been 0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:48.720 Ray Johnny Leroy, it could have been a black officer, 0:46:48.880 --> 0:46:53.960 Latino officer. They are following a law that has been 0:46:54.000 --> 0:46:57.640 put into the place that is definitely going to marginally 0:46:57.640 --> 0:47:01.080 in effect black and brown employ of people in areas 0:47:01.600 --> 0:47:06.560 every time. It's just just like the legal system is 0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:10.319 is systemic racism because it allows you to pay for 0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:15.439 your freedom. So if you don't have money, then you 0:47:15.480 --> 0:47:18.560 are going to go to jail. When you have money, 0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:22.560 you can buy your way out of the out of jail. 0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:25.520 When you don't, you could go if you go to 0:47:25.560 --> 0:47:28.200 the best lawyers, they can tell you for twenty thousand, 0:47:28.560 --> 0:47:31.200 I can guarantee that you will not do jail time. 0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:35.279 When you don't have money, they guarantee you will do 0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:39.040 jail time. And they under and the people who don't 0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:43.840 have money is mainly our people. Right, So it doesn't matter. 0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:49.479 Someone said, frist these are laws that have been put 0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:54.040 into place that it doesn't matter what it could be. 0:47:54.120 --> 0:47:58.280 It could be. You could you could go and and 0:47:58.280 --> 0:48:01.720 and and and and and and changed and spit twenty 0:48:02.360 --> 0:48:07.160 cops out and then bring twenty tho more in, and 0:48:07.239 --> 0:48:09.680 maybe one or two might try to do the right thing. 0:48:10.640 --> 0:48:15.759 But overall, excuse me, overall the way in which the 0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:21.120 system operates, police officers and others walk into it and 0:48:21.160 --> 0:48:26.799 began to carry it along the way from forever. So 0:48:26.880 --> 0:48:33.840 it's like some of our traditions in our family are systemic. 0:48:36.360 --> 0:48:42.080 Great great grandmother put the honey, the garlic and the 0:48:42.160 --> 0:48:46.719 limen in a spoon and has been feeding it to 0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:50.000 you when you get a cold all your life. That's everything. 0:48:50.040 --> 0:48:54.160 That's that's all we know. It was pretty much tradition. 0:48:54.520 --> 0:48:58.520 It's tradition. It doesn't right, it doesn't matter if Barbara 0:48:58.960 --> 0:49:04.080 comes into the fan Emilie, Barbara is doing the same 0:49:04.120 --> 0:49:08.200 ship that everyone else has been doing, because that is 0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:12.440 the way it works. So when we say this this, 0:49:12.719 --> 0:49:16.120 there's a reason why what I'm saying or what we're 0:49:16.160 --> 0:49:22.240 saying right here is important because when people say, well, nah, 0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:25.640 at the end of the day, you should never kill kids. 0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:29.200 We know that, we know that. But what we have 0:49:29.320 --> 0:49:33.680 to ask ourselves is when kids are the ones killing 0:49:33.719 --> 0:49:42.760 the kids? Right? Why why you think that a child? 0:49:43.239 --> 0:49:46.240 Do you think a child just woke up this morning 0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:48.799 and said, or a person just woke up this morning 0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:51.520 and said, oh, I'm gonna go out and I'm gonna 0:49:51.560 --> 0:49:54.400 shoot a five year old, a six year old, a 0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:59.080 seven year old. Hell no, hell no, that's not what happens. 0:49:59.440 --> 0:50:03.080 But when you are living in a sense of starvation, 0:50:03.640 --> 0:50:09.000 you are starved mentally, you are started spiritually, you are 0:50:09.120 --> 0:50:16.400 starved educationally, you are starved housing, you and and and 0:50:17.239 --> 0:50:20.440 we are living in the era of COVID. It is 0:50:20.600 --> 0:50:25.560 my expectation that this violence that we are seeing is 0:50:25.600 --> 0:50:31.600 going to actually get worse. It's going to yeah, because 0:50:32.600 --> 0:50:35.399 just just looking at where it stems from when we're 0:50:35.440 --> 0:50:38.839 living in this area of COVID. If you realize the 0:50:38.920 --> 0:50:42.080 level of trauma and fear that was instilled in us 0:50:42.120 --> 0:50:46.279 throughout this era, you understand that when you look at 0:50:46.280 --> 0:50:49.400 the the level of trauma and fear couple with the 0:50:49.480 --> 0:50:55.560 loss of jobs, with the loss of activity for our communities. 0:50:55.600 --> 0:51:00.400 They took away some of youth. They took away the 0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:04.200 the basketball, the sports, everything that these people were doing 0:51:04.280 --> 0:51:06.560 that was that was giving them some level of joy 0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:10.640 that was now you're sitting on corners and nothing but heat. 0:51:11.320 --> 0:51:14.680 Already frustrated to feel like you lost. People have lost. 0:51:15.360 --> 0:51:18.000 Kids didn't even graduate, they didn't go to the people 0:51:18.040 --> 0:51:20.200 that went to school, they were like they didn't have 0:51:20.239 --> 0:51:23.120 a graduation. They didn't have a proper graduation. There's people 0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:25.400 that are supposed to be starting schools, they're supposed to 0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:32.040 start certain jobs. They was they was they were sold Americans. 0:51:32.160 --> 0:51:34.880 People were sold the American dream. They were supposed to 0:51:34.920 --> 0:51:39.200 start their dream job last month and the job ain't 0:51:39.200 --> 0:51:41.840 even there no more, you know what I'm saying. Like 0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:44.440 they're supposed to start college college, they can't even go. 0:51:44.760 --> 0:51:47.400 Like everything they've been tought to live, to believe up 0:51:47.440 --> 0:51:50.319 to a certain points, it's not even happening anymore. The 0:51:50.360 --> 0:51:55.560 whole trajectity of life has changed for our youth. So 0:51:55.640 --> 0:51:59.520 do you understand you know what I'm saying. Do you 0:51:59.560 --> 0:52:03.160 understand a level of trauma that is in itself? And 0:52:03.239 --> 0:52:07.160 then you you you you couple that with just the 0:52:07.640 --> 0:52:10.239 regular what we see or TV every day, and racism 0:52:10.320 --> 0:52:13.560 just in general, and you think it's not gonna get worse, 0:52:13.840 --> 0:52:19.040 the trauma that they see watching murder happen in their communities. 0:52:19.080 --> 0:52:22.040 Why do I Why do I feel that I have 0:52:22.239 --> 0:52:26.040 anything to lose if the jump Out boys roll up 0:52:26.040 --> 0:52:30.000 in on my block every day, throwing me up against 0:52:30.000 --> 0:52:35.319 the wall, you know, just treating us like ship. The 0:52:35.400 --> 0:52:39.840 point that I'm making here is that we are we 0:52:39.960 --> 0:52:45.960 are naive to not have an understanding of the level 0:52:46.040 --> 0:52:50.839 of trauma that these young people and other individuals are 0:52:51.080 --> 0:52:55.319 under with all the different things that's happening in our communities. 0:52:55.760 --> 0:53:03.879 And what scares me, um, what scares me is this 0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:08.800 what scares me. Is this idea that, as I said before, 0:53:09.440 --> 0:53:13.279 just locking people up, it's going in and that personal 0:53:13.360 --> 0:53:20.680 responsibility is the solution for decades and decades and decades 0:53:22.200 --> 0:53:27.239 trauma and pain and and and and unequal and unfair treatment. 0:53:27.719 --> 0:53:33.080 You can't lock that up. You can't still people, you 0:53:33.120 --> 0:53:37.120 know when you so close minded right, because you you 0:53:37.320 --> 0:53:40.040 have to understand when when you look at trauma right 0:53:40.120 --> 0:53:43.960 and stress and realize that during the COVID that that 0:53:43.960 --> 0:53:49.600 that um that suicide was up, right, When when you 0:53:49.640 --> 0:53:52.880 when you realize that alcohol intake was up, that drug 0:53:53.360 --> 0:53:56.239 intake was at at old time. How when you look 0:53:56.280 --> 0:53:59.839 at all of these things right, and to not understand 0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:03.400 that if if some if people, if the rates of 0:54:03.520 --> 0:54:06.919 people killing theirselves is up, why would you not think 0:54:06.960 --> 0:54:09.759 the rates of people killing other people would be up. 0:54:10.480 --> 0:54:15.040 You know, every everybody deals with trauma differently. You know, 0:54:15.120 --> 0:54:19.520 everybody deals with pain differently. We we cannot ignore the 0:54:19.520 --> 0:54:23.920 fact that that the violence is a way that people 0:54:24.040 --> 0:54:26.239 deal with trauma. There are so many people that don't 0:54:26.239 --> 0:54:29.080 know how to take their own trauma and just hold 0:54:29.160 --> 0:54:31.560 onto it and figure out ways to prevent it out 0:54:31.600 --> 0:54:34.640 without hurt harmy people. So when you keep saying it's 0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:37.880 not excuse. No, we're not making excuses, We're giving you reasons. 0:54:39.680 --> 0:54:43.160 There are difference between excuses and reasons. If you if 0:54:43.440 --> 0:54:45.680 something happens, right, you have to try to figure out 0:54:45.680 --> 0:54:48.239 why is that thing happening. The reason why this is 0:54:48.280 --> 0:54:52.280 happening is because there's a reason. It's not just happening 0:54:52.520 --> 0:55:01.000 by our most reason. It's because there's a reason. And Mike, 0:55:02.719 --> 0:55:06.080 someone else on here said, how do we know that 0:55:06.200 --> 0:55:09.680 black people are actually ones doing the killing? Right? So 0:55:09.800 --> 0:55:14.719 that's a different that's and then you got Branches, and 0:55:14.800 --> 0:55:18.239 so this question around how do we know that black 0:55:18.239 --> 0:55:20.239 people are the ones doing the killing? I don't know. 0:55:21.160 --> 0:55:27.480 It's too deep. I am so disturbed by the level 0:55:27.600 --> 0:55:31.440 of ignorance with our own people not being able to 0:55:31.560 --> 0:55:39.200 understand how societal failures have created violent communities and how 0:55:39.280 --> 0:55:45.760 we need to dismantle fund and defund police in order 0:55:45.840 --> 0:55:49.399 to address some of our issues. Right. I am so 0:55:49.560 --> 0:55:53.719 disgusted with that that or not discussed it, so saddened 0:55:53.760 --> 0:55:56.120 by it that I can't even get to the point 0:55:56.120 --> 0:56:01.360 of explaining to you that it is ironic at in 0:56:01.400 --> 0:56:07.279 the same weekend where police officers said we're not doing 0:56:07.320 --> 0:56:11.680 our jobs anymore because some of them are piste off 0:56:11.719 --> 0:56:15.359 about the accountability, a little bit of accountability that has 0:56:15.400 --> 0:56:18.560 been happening over the last few months where you see 0:56:18.600 --> 0:56:22.480 some officers being arrested, some officers being fired, and you 0:56:22.560 --> 0:56:26.000 see some type of activity happening here where we're pushing 0:56:26.040 --> 0:56:29.920 forward and forcing the system to reckon with itself to 0:56:30.040 --> 0:56:33.320 some degree that there are people they are police officers 0:56:33.320 --> 0:56:35.120 are so piste off about it that they're like, I'm 0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:37.319 gonna quit my job. I'm not gonna show up two 0:56:37.400 --> 0:56:39.919 different you know, to to where I'm supposed to be. 0:56:40.080 --> 0:56:42.319 I'm gonna take a longer time to get there. This 0:56:42.400 --> 0:56:44.600 is this is the attitude that they have. And then 0:56:44.640 --> 0:56:49.320 in the same time period, they are all these shootings 0:56:49.400 --> 0:56:53.719 happening across the across the country, and your shootings don't 0:56:53.800 --> 0:56:57.520 generally even happen. But if you bring that up and 0:56:57.560 --> 0:57:01.200 start talking about coin tell pro and talking about how 0:57:01.719 --> 0:57:06.160 they these people are not your friends, they actually they 0:57:06.239 --> 0:57:09.800 actually work together. Just like they plant guns and drugs 0:57:09.840 --> 0:57:15.279 on people. And you don't think for one moment that 0:57:15.440 --> 0:57:19.680 they will not turn around and plant guns or people 0:57:19.720 --> 0:57:22.640 who look like us in our communities that will commit crimes. 0:57:22.880 --> 0:57:29.640 But let's go to that, because that's we can't even 0:57:29.800 --> 0:57:34.400 do that one, that's too deep. Let's start with let's 0:57:34.440 --> 0:57:39.680 just touch a little bit team on the idea. Okay 0:57:39.840 --> 0:57:43.280 that and because this might piss some people, or they 0:57:43.400 --> 0:57:47.760 killed the same amount of people last year. Yeah, So 0:57:47.800 --> 0:57:49.920 what I'm saying is when people say, how do we 0:57:49.960 --> 0:57:54.120 know it's black people because we buried kids last fourth 0:57:54.120 --> 0:57:58.480 of July, last Memorial weekend, this is not a new phenomenon. 0:57:59.160 --> 0:58:04.880 That's maybe y'all just woke up. They've been doing. It's 0:58:04.920 --> 0:58:09.920 hot weekends. That's what it's called a hot weekend. Yeah, 0:58:10.120 --> 0:58:13.040 that's the reality of situation. And and we just get 0:58:13.080 --> 0:58:15.920 so when we get so caught up because now we're 0:58:15.920 --> 0:58:21.280 allowing them to change the narrative. You know what some 0:58:21.320 --> 0:58:24.480 people are some people are getting caught up, old man. 0:58:24.720 --> 0:58:27.280 You know why we're not talking about what we're doing 0:58:27.280 --> 0:58:30.040 to our own community. We've been talking about that. The 0:58:30.080 --> 0:58:32.640 difference is in what I say all the time is 0:58:33.120 --> 0:58:38.560 when we do it, it is called a crime. It 0:58:38.640 --> 0:58:43.560 has always been a crime for for when murders happen 0:58:43.600 --> 0:58:47.160 in our communities has never been labeled anything else. When 0:58:47.240 --> 0:58:49.880 Ray Ray kills Pooky and they catch Ray Ray. He's 0:58:49.920 --> 0:58:52.760 gonna do a hundred years. Ray Ray is gonna die. 0:58:52.880 --> 0:58:55.120 This is the typele We know that the law state 0:58:55.440 --> 0:58:57.240 that when one of us killed, you are going to 0:58:57.320 --> 0:59:00.880 jail forever. We are protesting get us the fact that 0:59:01.000 --> 0:59:05.720 Officer Jack does not go to jail. Officer Jack goes 0:59:05.760 --> 0:59:09.440 home on pay vacation. Officer Jack gets to sit at 0:59:09.440 --> 0:59:12.600 a desk until they figure out what happened. That's what 0:59:12.760 --> 0:59:15.800 the whole protesting about it. It's not when we were 0:59:15.840 --> 0:59:18.720 not when they don't march for this. We marching because 0:59:18.720 --> 0:59:22.120 we want justice. Justice is going to be served in 0:59:22.160 --> 0:59:27.080 our community every time somebody skills unfortunately, but we understand 0:59:27.120 --> 0:59:30.160 that first you have to change the conditions in the community. 0:59:30.760 --> 0:59:33.640 We know that we are a hundred percent short that 0:59:33.760 --> 0:59:36.640 when you give these kids a reason to live, when 0:59:36.720 --> 0:59:41.360 you give them something um adequate amount of resources, you 0:59:41.440 --> 0:59:44.520 give them jobs, to give them opportunities, they are lots 0:59:44.920 --> 0:59:49.560 less likely to do violence. We know that because anythingwhere 0:59:49.840 --> 0:59:53.439 where black people are in communities that are thriving, there 0:59:53.440 --> 1:00:03.040 are no violence. Different the out little kids getting shot 1:00:03.080 --> 1:00:07.040 in the cross fire, that it doesn't happen because it's 1:00:07.040 --> 1:00:11.320 not even shots because well, I'm gonna say there's no shots. 1:00:11.360 --> 1:00:14.360 I don't think they report of it, but it would 1:00:14.360 --> 1:00:20.360 be domestic violence. But but there's not people on the 1:00:20.440 --> 1:00:26.560 street just there's not random acts of violence. There's they're violence. 1:00:27.000 --> 1:00:29.560 Violence is that they are gonna there's always gonna be 1:00:29.680 --> 1:00:32.560 violence to some level everywhere because that's the negative and 1:00:32.600 --> 1:00:35.400 positive is the balance of the world. And but when 1:00:35.400 --> 1:00:38.200 you look at the violence that's in communities where people 1:00:38.240 --> 1:00:43.440 are successful, is there is there's a situation that occurs. 1:00:43.600 --> 1:00:46.400 You know, there's something that it traces back to this situation. 1:00:46.440 --> 1:00:50.120 There's domestic issues, their problems that's going on. But you 1:00:50.160 --> 1:00:53.880 do not see random acts of violence where you know, 1:00:53.960 --> 1:00:59.280 where unintended victims are being killed. There's very very very rare. 1:00:59.600 --> 1:01:04.520 You completely eradicate violence. The issue is reducing it. And 1:01:04.760 --> 1:01:07.800 Erica is asking what we're saying about we've been doing 1:01:07.800 --> 1:01:10.800 it and what we were saying. Erica Ford, who has 1:01:11.200 --> 1:01:16.439 a who has a program in New York City called 1:01:16.480 --> 1:01:20.200 the Crisis Management System. You know when people say to me, oh, 1:01:20.360 --> 1:01:23.480 you know, all you do is talk about police brutality, 1:01:23.800 --> 1:01:27.520 but you don't you don't do anything regarding uh violence 1:01:27.520 --> 1:01:30.520 in the community. Well, guess what I actually was one 1:01:30.640 --> 1:01:33.280 of many people not well, first of all three and 1:01:33.320 --> 1:01:37.320 then many since then, Lance Fotado and others um are 1:01:37.400 --> 1:01:41.959 are here on this live many many years ago. Um, 1:01:42.120 --> 1:01:45.840 we started a program in New York City, uh called 1:01:45.880 --> 1:01:49.600 the Crisis Management System that you know, as I said, 1:01:49.600 --> 1:01:52.320 a few of us got together and work to get funding. 1:01:52.320 --> 1:01:54.560 I think the first amount of funding we got was 1:01:54.640 --> 1:01:59.640 five million dollars that was allotted for grassroots organizations and 1:01:59.680 --> 1:02:02.360 it was and easy to get. We protested, just like 1:02:02.400 --> 1:02:06.040 we do for police brutality. We have to go you know, 1:02:06.160 --> 1:02:09.600 hold up, not not stick up, but you know, uh 1:02:09.680 --> 1:02:13.120 a four side way into meetings and conversations with elected 1:02:13.160 --> 1:02:16.800 officials to get them to actually put some money behind 1:02:16.920 --> 1:02:22.360 grassroots organizations that hire people who are formally incarcerated, people 1:02:22.360 --> 1:02:25.560 who have direct connections to the streets, people who know 1:02:25.800 --> 1:02:28.280 who the shooters are and who the one who the 1:02:28.320 --> 1:02:31.680 people are that have issues. We we we went out 1:02:31.760 --> 1:02:35.040 and we found a way to get funding for those programs. 1:02:35.280 --> 1:02:38.200 It was at five million, I believe when we first started. 1:02:38.400 --> 1:02:42.160 It's over thirty million dollars and in fact yet actually 1:02:42.240 --> 1:02:44.800 that's right, Erica. We were bringing caskets out in the 1:02:44.840 --> 1:02:49.320 street protests and showing the caskets to to represent the 1:02:49.400 --> 1:02:52.720 bodies that we lost. Um. I remember one Memorial weekend 1:02:52.720 --> 1:02:55.400 we had it was like seventy shootings across the city 1:02:55.400 --> 1:02:58.440 of New York. We did mad work and it started 1:02:58.480 --> 1:03:02.560 out being five million dollars, of which at the time, Bloomberg, 1:03:02.640 --> 1:03:05.360 who just tried to run for president, was the mayor 1:03:05.400 --> 1:03:07.720 in New York City and he sat I don't know, Erica, 1:03:07.720 --> 1:03:10.120 if you remember that meeting where he sat with us 1:03:10.360 --> 1:03:13.320 and he specifically told me to my face that he 1:03:13.360 --> 1:03:18.160 would not fund any grassroots organizations because there was no 1:03:18.320 --> 1:03:22.400 data to prove that those types of groups work in 1:03:22.200 --> 1:03:25.880 in terms of reducing violence. But after doing some pushing 1:03:26.240 --> 1:03:29.800 at the time, uh, you know, a councilman Jamanni Williams 1:03:29.880 --> 1:03:34.760 and I think Fernando Cabrera and also a speaker Quinn, 1:03:35.080 --> 1:03:38.360 they got together and and they got gave us five 1:03:38.400 --> 1:03:41.680 million dollars, not us, because Tamika Mallory probably has received 1:03:41.680 --> 1:03:46.360 twenty thousand dollars ever from it. Completely. Um, from the 1:03:46.560 --> 1:03:49.400 entire program I helped to found it, help to do 1:03:49.480 --> 1:03:52.360 all the work, but I did not receive any resources. 1:03:52.720 --> 1:03:54.680 I want to change that at some point because I 1:03:54.680 --> 1:03:59.200 need to focus on doing my work. But nonetheless, um, 1:03:59.240 --> 1:04:03.000 you know, that was where we started. Today it's over 1:04:03.160 --> 1:04:06.320 thirty million. And now the new the mayor of New 1:04:06.400 --> 1:04:11.240 York City, Bill Deblasio, has given another ten million dollars 1:04:11.800 --> 1:04:14.120 to the program, where he will give ten more million 1:04:14.160 --> 1:04:18.280 dollars to the program to ensure that because he realizes 1:04:18.720 --> 1:04:22.760 that his police department is unable to do the job 1:04:23.080 --> 1:04:29.520 he is hereby in our communities, they don't have the 1:04:29.560 --> 1:04:32.920 credibility and and and and the police is not designed 1:04:32.920 --> 1:04:36.800 to prevent crime. It is not. It is the police 1:04:37.520 --> 1:04:41.040 that's when the crisis management system, that's what the crisis 1:04:41.080 --> 1:04:44.280 and and and and and so that people can understand 1:04:45.680 --> 1:04:51.080 in all the places where the crisis management program exists, 1:04:51.280 --> 1:04:56.200 so in places where they actually have centers set up 1:04:56.800 --> 1:04:59.920 where people like the Erica Fords, the A. T. Mitchell 1:05:00.600 --> 1:05:03.480 and the if E F A. Charles and I mean 1:05:03.600 --> 1:05:06.800 and Lance for Titles and all the others where they work, 1:05:07.120 --> 1:05:12.640 where they do their work right, violence is down. These 1:05:12.640 --> 1:05:15.200 are places where when and I would say that this 1:05:15.240 --> 1:05:19.080 summer right now, we're experiencing a peak environment. But for 1:05:19.200 --> 1:05:22.680 the last five to six years, violence has been down 1:05:22.800 --> 1:05:26.720 in these things called in catchment areas because the ways 1:05:26.760 --> 1:05:31.120 in which these programs exist is not that uh they 1:05:31.160 --> 1:05:35.320 called the cops and called big brother as soon as 1:05:35.440 --> 1:05:40.000 something happens. No, they empowered the community to do its 1:05:40.040 --> 1:05:44.360 own work. So in the community, there's somebody who has 1:05:44.680 --> 1:05:49.000 mental health services, there's someone who knows where you might 1:05:49.040 --> 1:05:52.240 be able to get jobs, a g D program, a 1:05:52.360 --> 1:05:56.320 college program, someone that you can talk to, you can 1:05:56.520 --> 1:06:00.560 you can have you know, there's there's therapy. Um, we 1:06:00.600 --> 1:06:03.800 even are learning how to eat better through the leadership 1:06:03.920 --> 1:06:07.640 of Capri Kiers. What else is? What else is there? Erica? 1:06:07.720 --> 1:06:12.560 Feed me some more. We got man, big brothers, big brothers. 1:06:12.600 --> 1:06:14.920 You need to pick up the phone and call none valunity. 1:06:14.920 --> 1:06:17.760 But to Erica's pointing, to your point, my son Conca 1:06:17.880 --> 1:06:21.880 actually showing up after the ship that went down. That 1:06:22.080 --> 1:06:26.680 is happening from the crisis management system. That now that's 1:06:26.720 --> 1:06:29.440 something that's going on and doing the work to go 1:06:30.040 --> 1:06:33.120 round up the young people, round up the potential shoot 1:06:33.200 --> 1:06:35.520 is and sit down and try to broke the deals 1:06:35.680 --> 1:06:39.000 to to to kill the noise. And I'm not gonna 1:06:39.000 --> 1:06:41.200 talk anymore after this because because this this is the 1:06:41.240 --> 1:06:45.000 main this is the point and you wanted to do that, 1:06:45.680 --> 1:06:50.840 you need money exactly. And that's what I tell people 1:06:50.840 --> 1:06:52.720 all the time, and they say, oh, well, you know 1:06:53.320 --> 1:06:55.240 you you keep talking about this. We need to govern 1:06:55.240 --> 1:06:58.480 our own communities. And until the the quote unquote games 1:06:58.560 --> 1:07:02.120 is doing, I'm saying, do we reality is, it's possible 1:07:02.600 --> 1:07:05.600 if you employ these young boys who want the street, 1:07:05.600 --> 1:07:08.439 who think they don't have any other either, any other 1:07:08.480 --> 1:07:14.800 reco negative. You know, if you employed them and you say, look, 1:07:14.840 --> 1:07:16.480 we're gonna we're gonna make sure that you don't have 1:07:16.520 --> 1:07:18.400 to stay in the corner because we've actually gonna pay 1:07:18.400 --> 1:07:21.680 you more than you actually doing making out here on 1:07:21.720 --> 1:07:24.560 this corner. But we want you to be responsible for 1:07:24.640 --> 1:07:27.080 protecting these communities you want to. We want you to 1:07:27.080 --> 1:07:30.240 to be the media that people respect you enough, so 1:07:30.320 --> 1:07:32.440 we want you to be able to go and and 1:07:32.880 --> 1:07:35.200 and you know, and prevent some of these crimes, just 1:07:35.320 --> 1:07:37.760 gonna prevent some of the violence. That's gonna stop some 1:07:37.800 --> 1:07:40.120 of the beef and suddenly be because they respect who 1:07:40.200 --> 1:07:42.680 you are. So when you're when you say something, your 1:07:42.680 --> 1:07:45.840 word actually means something. So when you're paying somebody to 1:07:45.920 --> 1:07:48.960 do the same thing that you and you're taking some 1:07:49.080 --> 1:07:51.600 resources away from the police because they're not capable of 1:07:51.640 --> 1:07:54.080 doing that. They don't have credibility in our communities. They 1:07:54.120 --> 1:07:57.000 can't come and put to Joe Joe and Ray Ray 1:07:57.040 --> 1:08:00.680 and say look, we need you to sit down and squashes, 1:08:00.720 --> 1:08:03.439 because that ain't gonna happen. When you got somebody who's 1:08:03.480 --> 1:08:05.560 able to do that, then they need to be paid 1:08:05.640 --> 1:08:12.320 for those services. You can't go to work at uh 1:08:12.600 --> 1:08:17.800 the McDonald's all day long and then later on and 1:08:18.080 --> 1:08:20.719 then think you're gonna get to the situation that's about 1:08:20.800 --> 1:08:23.800 to go down when you get off, when you take 1:08:23.880 --> 1:08:26.400 your nap. You gotta have a full time job on 1:08:26.560 --> 1:08:30.040 the ground. And I think about just a few months ago, 1:08:30.240 --> 1:08:34.760 freezing cold outside, you and Erica Ford were and and 1:08:35.040 --> 1:08:38.240 and and and a you and others were out there 1:08:38.400 --> 1:08:42.240 and we're out there in the projects. Now. I'm not 1:08:42.320 --> 1:08:46.000 seeing y'all solve the problems forever, because there's probably still 1:08:46.080 --> 1:08:48.799 ship that's going on in the same area in Queens. 1:08:49.160 --> 1:08:52.240 But you was able to help save some young people's 1:08:52.280 --> 1:08:56.160 lives another day just by going out there talking to them, 1:08:56.439 --> 1:08:59.600 offering them resources, offering them some kind of hope, and 1:08:59.720 --> 1:09:02.639 letting know that people care about them to jump out 1:09:02.720 --> 1:09:06.720 police boys. They cannot offer that. And so what we're 1:09:06.760 --> 1:09:09.400 saying is when we say you need money, but we 1:09:09.640 --> 1:09:13.160 what we're saying is there is no reason for police 1:09:13.280 --> 1:09:16.840 officers to have billions of dollars to show up in 1:09:16.960 --> 1:09:23.360 our communities to deal with damn to deal with a 1:09:23.479 --> 1:09:27.920 pro approach. And they come out, the protest happens, and 1:09:28.000 --> 1:09:32.120 they show up with horses and and military equipment and 1:09:32.200 --> 1:09:35.160 all this freaking gear that they don't need. They don't 1:09:35.160 --> 1:09:38.160 need that. Take that damn money and put it into 1:09:38.280 --> 1:09:42.280 the communities so that people can actually feel like there's 1:09:42.320 --> 1:09:46.439 some hope and there's some actual care, some understanding of 1:09:46.520 --> 1:09:48.639 what it is that they need. I made, I said 1:09:48.680 --> 1:09:50.880 to us, I was saying the Erica today. I was 1:09:50.960 --> 1:09:52.760 have an argument with somebody the other day and he 1:09:52.880 --> 1:09:55.080 was like, well, you know, but what we're gonna do 1:09:55.160 --> 1:09:58.040 about these knuckleheads? I said, give him a job. Well, 1:09:58.280 --> 1:10:00.560 but you know the projects that I live next do 1:10:00.680 --> 1:10:02.920 or two. There's always some ship going on, and this 1:10:03.080 --> 1:10:06.759 one apartment in particular, where they just they whole house 1:10:06.920 --> 1:10:10.160 is messed up. The fathers on drugs. So the son 1:10:10.479 --> 1:10:13.880 he got and I said, you know what if I'm 1:10:13.960 --> 1:10:17.000 the president. If I'm the president of the Housing Association 1:10:17.120 --> 1:10:20.479 and that project, right, I'm I'm the one. I'm the 1:10:20.560 --> 1:10:24.320 big dog in the in the in the in the community, Okay. 1:10:25.080 --> 1:10:29.599 And I find out that in building number seven, Apartment four, 1:10:29.720 --> 1:10:34.120 Team B, it's all kinds of ship going on. There's violence, 1:10:34.200 --> 1:10:38.040 somebody kills somebody last night. All is happening when I 1:10:38.200 --> 1:10:41.400 go up there, because the community says, we gotta deal 1:10:41.479 --> 1:10:43.800 with it. Something has to happen. And let's just say 1:10:44.160 --> 1:10:46.599 we decide we're not calling non one one no more 1:10:46.880 --> 1:10:50.639 so now the housing Authority, the housing president, she's gonna 1:10:50.720 --> 1:10:54.120 go upstairs and she's gonna talk to miss Mary about 1:10:54.200 --> 1:10:57.760 what's going down in her household when she gets there. 1:10:58.120 --> 1:11:02.440 She needs some jobs, she needs a mental health program, 1:11:02.760 --> 1:11:07.639 she needs a drug treatment program. She needs a cow 1:11:07.760 --> 1:11:10.400 that can't read. Need some help. They might need some 1:11:10.640 --> 1:11:15.960 food tonight, not calmed help, help going around the way. 1:11:16.439 --> 1:11:19.960 We got food tonight that will get you over for 1:11:20.080 --> 1:11:22.200 the next week or two, because we know what you're 1:11:22.200 --> 1:11:25.000 going through. We know what you're going through. You you 1:11:25.120 --> 1:11:28.240 probably hungry. You can't even control these kids. They because 1:11:28.280 --> 1:11:30.479 you're in here broken, they're like that. We ain't gonna 1:11:30.520 --> 1:11:32.760 be pol like this is a reality of what's going on. 1:11:33.200 --> 1:11:35.599 If you're coming in with resource, it's like what if 1:11:35.640 --> 1:11:38.840 you look at um um lean on me, man. That's 1:11:39.280 --> 1:11:40.960 Mr Clark used to go to the house and said, 1:11:41.000 --> 1:11:44.160 what you need. You know what I'm saying. We're gonna 1:11:44.160 --> 1:11:45.920 We're gonna give you some resources. We're gonna get you 1:11:45.960 --> 1:11:48.280 a job. I know Connesian got the baby. We're gonna 1:11:48.320 --> 1:11:50.640 take it like we're gonna do like. People want to 1:11:50.720 --> 1:11:53.200 feel like you actually kid. They don't want to feel 1:11:53.240 --> 1:11:55.879 like you're coming at them calling them more sucking police. 1:11:55.960 --> 1:11:59.920 And people are frustrated. It's too much going on daily. Man. 1:12:00.280 --> 1:12:02.559 They want somebody to just give him a hug some time. 1:12:03.280 --> 1:12:05.799 Mrs She just want to hug you, to get somebody 1:12:05.800 --> 1:12:09.400 to understand what's she going through. And then guess what. 1:12:09.720 --> 1:12:13.800 Then guess what happened? Ray Rey gotta go to work 1:12:13.840 --> 1:12:16.599 in the morning cause she's don't told him listening your 1:12:16.680 --> 1:12:20.040 job this week, you're gonna be down there helping Mr 1:12:20.160 --> 1:12:23.640 John at the at the wherever the mechanic to this 1:12:23.880 --> 1:12:25.840 that at the third he got a job for you. 1:12:26.080 --> 1:12:28.120 He's gonna hook you up with some resources. So I 1:12:28.200 --> 1:12:31.280 need you to go down there and and and every 1:12:31.360 --> 1:12:35.160 morning you gotta be there at seven o'clock. So now 1:12:36.840 --> 1:12:39.400 my own son, I see it with my own child, 1:12:39.600 --> 1:12:42.880 mice where he gotta get when he got something that 1:12:42.920 --> 1:12:46.559 he's focused on, and it's some money involved. Especially dude, 1:12:46.720 --> 1:12:49.200 go in there and turn the lights off, turn every 1:12:49.280 --> 1:12:51.960 TV off. He goes to bed so that he could 1:12:52.000 --> 1:12:54.000 get up in the morning to take care of his business. 1:12:54.160 --> 1:12:56.080 Of course, there's gonna be something that don't but the 1:12:56.200 --> 1:13:01.280 majority will do it. And then after a while, when 1:13:01.439 --> 1:13:05.120 when trouble come about, they turned around to Miss Sue, 1:13:05.400 --> 1:13:08.599 the president and the Tennis Association, and they say, Miss Sue, 1:13:08.920 --> 1:13:11.479 you know, man, I know you helped me out with this, 1:13:11.800 --> 1:13:14.160 and now we got this going on. The light bill 1:13:14.320 --> 1:13:16.720 was never really paid. Okay, no problems to be hard. 1:13:16.880 --> 1:13:19.080 I'm gonna give you this piece of paper. I'm gonna 1:13:19.120 --> 1:13:22.280 help you'll fill it out. Because I realized that you 1:13:22.560 --> 1:13:24.600 may not have you may not you may not have 1:13:24.760 --> 1:13:27.960 your reading skills because the school failed you. And you 1:13:28.000 --> 1:13:31.799 don't want to tell anybody that you can't really read. Okay, 1:13:32.200 --> 1:13:35.200 you might not have a knowledge of all of these 1:13:35.320 --> 1:13:39.080 complicated things that they're asking you for making you fill 1:13:39.120 --> 1:13:41.719 out all the ship and do all this ship that's 1:13:42.000 --> 1:13:45.920 complicated as fun to get some damn help. So I 1:13:46.080 --> 1:13:48.880 can't do all of that. I'm stressed out. My husband 1:13:49.439 --> 1:13:52.320 is having problems. Somebody in the fucking house is sit 1:13:52.600 --> 1:13:56.240 and now somebody and not my mama got fucking COVID nineteen, 1:13:56.640 --> 1:14:01.120 so this is a lot. Now got COVID and watching 1:14:01.160 --> 1:14:05.799 the death count on TV, you're just kneeled in George 1:14:05.840 --> 1:14:09.479 Floyd's net. People are telling me to fight, fucking Brianna Taylor. 1:14:09.680 --> 1:14:11.400 I got all this ship going on, and you want 1:14:11.439 --> 1:14:14.280 me to fill out a goddamn application to get talk 1:14:14.320 --> 1:14:16.599 about the census and all this ship. It's too much. 1:14:16.880 --> 1:14:20.080 It's too much, it's too much, and you don't and 1:14:20.240 --> 1:14:23.320 you can't even survive. You barely count survived, and you 1:14:23.439 --> 1:14:26.280 gotta deal with all you were survived. You was you was, 1:14:26.800 --> 1:14:29.880 You didn't even have lunch meat before this ship happened, 1:14:31.000 --> 1:14:35.920 and now this happened. You you below starvation? What like? People? 1:14:37.120 --> 1:14:43.360 You t like the job? The lay they said fifty 1:14:43.439 --> 1:14:47.680 billion dollars went to in the similar package. Come on, 1:14:48.920 --> 1:14:52.760 come on, man, in biduals got twelve hundred dollars there's 1:14:52.840 --> 1:14:55.599 too much. Man, we do have to do the census. 1:14:55.680 --> 1:14:58.599 We do, we do. We're not saying if you don't 1:14:59.120 --> 1:15:04.160 actually got it's a lot Erica gotta do the sense, 1:15:05.120 --> 1:15:08.560 but it's too much, gotta do the census. But but 1:15:08.680 --> 1:15:11.000 I'm just saying, I'm just saying, with the whole, with 1:15:11.080 --> 1:15:14.639 the with the the damn it, I lost it because 1:15:14.680 --> 1:15:18.120 the census is mad important. I can't remember, but y'all 1:15:18.520 --> 1:15:21.559 like it's way too much, like it's over the freaking top. 1:15:21.760 --> 1:15:25.599 So now our position is if you want to stop. 1:15:25.880 --> 1:15:29.439 And and by the way, everything that we're saying here, 1:15:29.880 --> 1:15:34.439 these fucking people understand. They know it. They know it, 1:15:34.920 --> 1:15:44.080 they know they know what's going on there. They know, 1:15:45.040 --> 1:15:48.599 and we got vote, and we gotta vote, even though 1:15:48.640 --> 1:15:51.719 you're my damn shit, I don't, I don't, I don't 1:15:51.800 --> 1:15:55.080 care about none of that yo. In your local communities. 1:15:55.439 --> 1:16:00.080 If you don't vote, other people will and then you 1:16:00.200 --> 1:16:02.400 don't be sucked up. Oh I know that the person 1:16:02.479 --> 1:16:05.280 thank you for bringing me back. Yeah, there's twelve hundred dollars. 1:16:05.479 --> 1:16:08.960 You get one dollars. Well, if your old child support, 1:16:09.479 --> 1:16:13.280 if you had certain types of femily convictions, if this 1:16:13.520 --> 1:16:17.880 and that and your paperwork wasn't right, and you didn't 1:16:17.880 --> 1:16:20.760 even get the twelve hundred dollars. So now you don't 1:16:20.800 --> 1:16:24.519 even have the money that the little, the little twelve 1:16:24.760 --> 1:16:28.360 hundred dollars. You didn't even necessarily get that, or you 1:16:28.479 --> 1:16:31.439 may have gotten it, But the corporation's got fifty billions, 1:16:31.560 --> 1:16:37.840 and you're gonna tell us that systemic racism is not relevant. 1:16:38.240 --> 1:16:40.760 Listen to me. These corporations think they were in the 1:16:40.960 --> 1:16:44.439 game the riots. That's why you've seen these white people 1:16:44.479 --> 1:16:47.840 out there breaking Target windows and ola talking. Got all 1:16:47.960 --> 1:16:52.240 this money, then they got the the insurance from the stores. 1:16:52.280 --> 1:16:56.160 They then they got the insurance from people burning down 1:16:56.200 --> 1:17:01.800 their stories like this ship. This ship is old. Target, 1:17:01.920 --> 1:17:04.599 don't be talking about that about my target. Target came 1:17:04.640 --> 1:17:07.719 out and said they was for the protests. Of course 1:17:07.840 --> 1:17:10.800 there was, because now they got the surers money plus 1:17:10.880 --> 1:17:14.200 the hundred they got all the money. Don't put targets 1:17:15.640 --> 1:17:20.559 target all of these stories. But seriously, they got there 1:17:21.040 --> 1:17:23.040 is sent this money out there, and it was to 1:17:23.200 --> 1:17:26.400 the tune of fifty billion dollars that was given out 1:17:26.439 --> 1:17:31.160 to people. Yet and still individuals every day, people may 1:17:31.280 --> 1:17:34.120 or may not have gotten twelve hundred dollars and then 1:17:34.200 --> 1:17:37.040 of course you got your unemployment checked. Some people, some 1:17:37.200 --> 1:17:40.080 people not, like we're dealing with some real ship. So 1:17:40.120 --> 1:17:43.360 when you say, well, why is it, why is this happening? 1:17:43.479 --> 1:17:49.400 First of all, every single summer, every single summer, not 1:17:49.800 --> 1:17:56.120 some summers, not summer twenty years ago. Every single summer, 1:17:58.240 --> 1:18:03.160 children are killed. Children are killed in Chicago, children are 1:18:03.200 --> 1:18:07.400 killed in New York, children are killed in every single 1:18:07.560 --> 1:18:13.760 summer across this country. In Alabama. Unfortunately, this stuff happens 1:18:14.160 --> 1:18:16.560 every single year. Well, we have to do and I 1:18:16.680 --> 1:18:23.680 think we're coming down, coming down today to the end 1:18:23.720 --> 1:18:26.880 of this. What we have to do, brothers and sisters, 1:18:27.000 --> 1:18:31.080 ladies and gentlemen and family. It's first of all, not 1:18:31.280 --> 1:18:35.280 allow these people to change the narrative on us. Don't 1:18:35.320 --> 1:18:39.400 be allowing people to make you feel like the fact 1:18:39.479 --> 1:18:43.160 that you fight against police brutality means that you don't 1:18:43.280 --> 1:18:47.040 care about what's happening in your own communities. Because we 1:18:47.280 --> 1:18:52.040 do care. Okay, we do definitely care, and people of 1:18:52.160 --> 1:18:55.800 us are doing real work. Some people could be doing more, 1:18:56.200 --> 1:18:59.240 but some people are doing real work to deal with 1:18:59.720 --> 1:19:03.160 by islens in our own community. So it's not allowed 1:19:03.240 --> 1:19:06.960 them to change the narrative, because that's the goal, that's 1:19:07.000 --> 1:19:10.160 the whole gool want to do. They want to talk 1:19:10.200 --> 1:19:13.160 about something different. You keep your foot on their Next 1:19:13.720 --> 1:19:19.599 Next Tuesday, we're going to Kentucky. We're going to uh 1:19:20.240 --> 1:19:23.439 have a direct action that may get us arrested for 1:19:23.800 --> 1:19:27.679 Brianna Taylor because they are trying to sweep Rihanna Taylor 1:19:27.840 --> 1:19:31.240 under the rug. They want us to forget about that 1:19:31.720 --> 1:19:35.840 and start focusing on blaming one another and arguing with 1:19:35.960 --> 1:19:40.719 one another. And we are not going to do black 1:19:41.000 --> 1:19:44.360 black crime. Whatever the funk that is? What is that? 1:19:44.479 --> 1:19:49.640 What is black? You know? I guess it's just an 1:19:49.680 --> 1:19:52.920 easy way for some people to explain a black person 1:19:53.040 --> 1:19:55.400 killing a black person. And I think we just have 1:19:55.560 --> 1:19:58.400 a responsibility to educate people. I love the mean that 1:19:58.479 --> 1:20:03.080 I've seen that says thirty eight six percent of white 1:20:03.160 --> 1:20:06.360 people who kill other white people. White people who are 1:20:06.520 --> 1:20:11.440 killed are killed by other white people. So every community 1:20:11.560 --> 1:20:17.559 has the same thing. Yes, it's called proximity, called proximity crimes. Right, 1:20:17.920 --> 1:20:23.679 whoever you're close to, you are most likely to commit 1:20:23.720 --> 1:20:29.120 a crime against it. We never heard white on white crimes, 1:20:29.160 --> 1:20:31.600 So stop saying, don't let these people keep telling you 1:20:31.680 --> 1:20:34.679 this black on black ship. Please, it's it's a point. 1:20:35.320 --> 1:20:38.360 So that's one. Let's let's not let them change the narrative. 1:20:38.439 --> 1:20:41.360 Second of all, let's continue to fight for people like 1:20:41.560 --> 1:20:45.120 Brianna Taylor. And then I think the last thing is 1:20:45.640 --> 1:20:51.920 let's invest in local grassroots organizations that are actually doing 1:20:52.479 --> 1:20:56.720 the work, because there are people in your local community. 1:20:57.600 --> 1:21:02.160 Every single day they march. You just don't go. It's 1:21:02.200 --> 1:21:04.880 not that there's not a march that happens. My son 1:21:05.040 --> 1:21:08.719 and Erica was just doing the march. When was that Sunday, 1:21:10.720 --> 1:21:13.960 the fourth of July, the fourth of your mind, just 1:21:14.040 --> 1:21:17.280 out there shout out to East Key. She had you know, 1:21:17.479 --> 1:21:20.640 she had a rally outside outside of the um the 1:21:20.760 --> 1:21:24.720 PE Center and was out there with along with Michael Kay. 1:21:25.160 --> 1:21:31.680 Michael Killis came out there. You know. So my askar 1:21:32.000 --> 1:21:34.240 is asking us, how do you get funding? I think 1:21:34.280 --> 1:21:37.040 you get funded by defunding the police. You don't need 1:21:37.160 --> 1:21:41.080 them to have the military equipment, you don't need them 1:21:41.200 --> 1:21:45.640 to UH to do nothing in our communities. In some instances, 1:21:46.080 --> 1:21:49.080 we need to take those that money, take those resources 1:21:49.400 --> 1:21:56.000 and shifted to community UH funded programs, to resources and 1:21:56.120 --> 1:21:59.479 services that we need in our community. So the end 1:21:59.520 --> 1:22:04.639 of the day, support grassroots organization. You can go right now, Erica, 1:22:04.760 --> 1:22:09.479 put put your Life camp um tagging here and my son, 1:22:10.120 --> 1:22:12.599 you could pen it for the next couple of seconds 1:22:12.640 --> 1:22:15.599 that were on here, but you can go right now 1:22:16.000 --> 1:22:21.240 at this moment and give to a group like life 1:22:21.320 --> 1:22:25.080 Camp and other groups that are actually doing the what 1:22:27.360 --> 1:22:32.000 they are stopping violence on a regular basis. And if 1:22:32.040 --> 1:22:34.439 you live in a city and you're like, damn, what 1:22:34.600 --> 1:22:37.880 can I do? But you have relationships with legislators, you 1:22:37.960 --> 1:22:39.559 need to get in touch with us and find out 1:22:39.640 --> 1:22:42.799 how we did it. The funding literally you know, generally 1:22:42.920 --> 1:22:46.840 will come from some of the funding will come from 1:22:47.400 --> 1:22:51.360 UH City Council, UH and other legislators, and then people 1:22:51.640 --> 1:22:55.200 can also go out and get private funds to match 1:22:55.320 --> 1:22:59.479 that money. So that's what you guys need. Okay, right there? 1:23:00.040 --> 1:23:04.760 Did you see that right there? Give right now to 1:23:05.560 --> 1:23:10.040 two pieces of lifestyle dot com. Go to Pieces of 1:23:10.160 --> 1:23:18.559 Lifestyle dot com and support local grass organization. Support man 1:23:18.680 --> 1:23:28.160 support because it's like down to look, yeah, support g MAC. 1:23:28.280 --> 1:23:32.880 I see somebody saying definitely Shan Duke mcfadder our brother, 1:23:33.720 --> 1:23:44.519 support him, support Manna support. Uh what's the fa Tito 1:23:44.640 --> 1:23:48.960 brothers organization name I can't remember it right now, because 1:23:49.000 --> 1:23:52.080 like King of Kings, King of Kings, King of Kings 1:23:52.600 --> 1:23:56.800 support them. Okay, this links for the jobs of kids 1:23:56.840 --> 1:23:59.519 and someone. This is how they trying to perform how 1:23:59.600 --> 1:24:06.760 to free money too implemented. M h m hmm right 1:24:06.840 --> 1:24:09.800 because this this the city this year said they didn't 1:24:09.840 --> 1:24:14.160 have enough resources to uh to hire all the kids 1:24:14.280 --> 1:24:16.320 the way that they have in the past, the COVID 1:24:16.439 --> 1:24:19.680 nineteen issue and other things, and so they don't have 1:24:19.920 --> 1:24:23.839 enough money. Um, so we should make sure to support 1:24:23.960 --> 1:24:27.519 people like life Camp or organizations like life Camp, like 1:24:28.040 --> 1:24:31.400 life Camp that are going to continue to keep our 1:24:31.720 --> 1:24:35.320 young people employed. I see also shar Bates is here 1:24:35.439 --> 1:24:39.200 with cash ap. My vote is hip hop. These are 1:24:39.280 --> 1:24:44.240 people who do real work. These are people doing real 1:24:45.400 --> 1:24:48.839 live work. And of course you can support until Freedom 1:24:49.000 --> 1:24:52.160 by going to until freedom dot com. That is my 1:24:52.320 --> 1:24:56.080 son and my organization that tonight is not about us. 1:24:56.800 --> 1:25:03.680 Give to small grassroots organism stations like um I was 1:25:03.760 --> 1:25:06.760 a smaller grassrooms too. But you understand my point. Yes, 1:25:07.280 --> 1:25:09.840 but you hear me, do I sound better? Not much 1:25:10.240 --> 1:25:15.680 not much better? Okay, So that's it. That's it. So 1:25:15.840 --> 1:25:18.439 we hope we listen. We hope that you learned something, 1:25:19.040 --> 1:25:21.840 you know, We hope that you you you understand why 1:25:22.240 --> 1:25:27.439 systemic and systematic racism play major parts in the violence 1:25:27.479 --> 1:25:30.320 and black communities. We hope that you know, like we 1:25:30.400 --> 1:25:32.400 say all the time, we we don't not want to 1:25:32.439 --> 1:25:35.240 be accountable. We definitely want we did we deal with 1:25:35.320 --> 1:25:39.320 our accountability, but we have to understand where these things 1:25:39.400 --> 1:25:42.280 stem from. They don't just come out of the clear blue. 1:25:42.680 --> 1:25:45.599 Black people ain't just shooting and killing and they're just like, oh, ship, 1:25:45.640 --> 1:25:47.680 what's going on? They just know there are things that 1:25:47.840 --> 1:25:51.680 created the situations. And I hope my realities and my 1:25:51.880 --> 1:25:55.080 experiences that I gave that I was you know, honest 1:25:55.160 --> 1:25:57.800 about and to me it was honest about her experiences. 1:25:57.880 --> 1:26:00.479 I hope that you listen to those, you know. I 1:26:00.520 --> 1:26:03.519 hope that you actually listened so that when you and 1:26:03.640 --> 1:26:07.320 just not just listen to to rebut but listen to 1:26:07.439 --> 1:26:11.000 actually just really understand there are really serious situations going 1:26:11.120 --> 1:26:14.000 on in our community. So, you know, a lot of 1:26:14.080 --> 1:26:18.639 people are angry with me because I refused to all 1:26:18.680 --> 1:26:21.479 the ways condemn what's going on in the communities, and 1:26:21.600 --> 1:26:25.759 I confused to you know, speak out and and against 1:26:25.840 --> 1:26:28.560 these young because I understand what they're dealing with, you know, 1:26:28.720 --> 1:26:32.120 and I understand that that Malcolm X was read before 1:26:32.160 --> 1:26:34.360 he was Malcolm X. You know, there there there was 1:26:34.439 --> 1:26:37.439 a process that we all have to go through to grow, 1:26:37.680 --> 1:26:40.320 you know. You know, I come from the streets, and 1:26:40.360 --> 1:26:43.760 a lot of my understanding came from the streets, and 1:26:43.760 --> 1:26:46.000 a lot of things that I believed that helped me 1:26:46.080 --> 1:26:48.960 to survive came from the streets. There are a lot 1:26:49.000 --> 1:26:50.920 of negative things that I learned from the streets, but 1:26:51.080 --> 1:26:55.000 I was able to identify and understand that these young 1:26:55.160 --> 1:26:58.560 kids are getting these same lessons that I learned, and 1:26:58.560 --> 1:27:00.840 a lot of them have been taught wrong. And but 1:27:00.960 --> 1:27:03.920 they're not bad people. You know that this is not savages, 1:27:03.960 --> 1:27:07.680 They're not animals. They've just been raised and taught negativity 1:27:07.880 --> 1:27:11.040 was you know, we've been we've normalized abnormality for a 1:27:11.200 --> 1:27:14.040 long time. And I'm just one of those people that 1:27:14.560 --> 1:27:16.880 try to meet people where they are because I remember 1:27:16.960 --> 1:27:19.400 when I was there, you know, And I just hope 1:27:19.640 --> 1:27:22.080 that you don't look down on your brothers and sisters 1:27:22.479 --> 1:27:24.880 that's going through a lot in these communities and have 1:27:25.040 --> 1:27:27.800 made bad and poor choices and you know, and you 1:27:27.880 --> 1:27:31.360 don't see yourself as above them, but just understand that 1:27:31.520 --> 1:27:35.200 it is your duty and it is your duty to 1:27:35.360 --> 1:27:37.679 try to help them, you know, and try to change 1:27:37.800 --> 1:27:41.360 all of our brothers and sisters realities and situations. So 1:27:42.000 --> 1:27:45.040 with that said, I'm just happy we had this conversation. 1:27:46.520 --> 1:27:48.920 It requires more and more because it was so much 1:27:48.960 --> 1:27:53.640 to impact. Yeah, but um, you know, I'm not going 1:27:53.720 --> 1:27:56.800 to even try to match that because I I know 1:27:56.960 --> 1:28:00.719 when our brothers speak, especially in your situation and things 1:28:00.800 --> 1:28:02.960 you've been through, you can speak to it even better 1:28:03.040 --> 1:28:06.760 than me. So we appreciate you and I love you too, 1:28:06.840 --> 1:28:11.160 dy um Mice and you know, and I think tonight 1:28:11.400 --> 1:28:13.600 trying to give people just a little bit of a 1:28:13.720 --> 1:28:16.600 glimpse of what it is that we go through. But 1:28:16.760 --> 1:28:20.040 I will end this by saying, you still can't be 1:28:20.120 --> 1:28:24.599 killing our babies. Definitely can't, and it's not acceptable. It's 1:28:24.640 --> 1:28:27.280 not acceptable, man. We have to What we do have 1:28:27.400 --> 1:28:30.839 to do, is what I definitely say, is we cannot glorify. 1:28:31.080 --> 1:28:36.639 We cannot allow anybody who is harming our community, who 1:28:36.800 --> 1:28:40.080 is you know, terrorizing our community, either whether it's systemic 1:28:40.360 --> 1:28:43.439 or not, to feel like it's some bad, bad you honor. 1:28:43.880 --> 1:28:45.760 You know, we have to. We have to. That's one 1:28:45.840 --> 1:28:48.000 thing that I learned from being in the streets is 1:28:48.080 --> 1:28:50.360 that we have to create what cool is. When we 1:28:50.920 --> 1:28:52.880 in these streets say, yo, it's not cool for you 1:28:52.960 --> 1:28:56.080 to hurt your own people. That's not quote unquote gangster. 1:28:56.160 --> 1:28:58.840 Because people want to be considered real. They want to 1:28:58.880 --> 1:29:01.360 be considered this gangster. And when we start changing the 1:29:01.479 --> 1:29:05.160 definition of what that is, then you you start speaking 1:29:05.200 --> 1:29:06.960 their language. You have to speak to the people that 1:29:07.080 --> 1:29:09.080 you want to help. You gotta speak the language over 1:29:09.439 --> 1:29:11.360 and they want to be considered real. They want to 1:29:11.400 --> 1:29:14.479 be quote unquote gangster. Well, gangsters. Making sure that nobody 1:29:14.560 --> 1:29:18.200 comes to your community and harms nobody. Gangsters. Making sure 1:29:18.280 --> 1:29:20.160 that you're not robbing these old people, that the old 1:29:20.200 --> 1:29:22.519 people feel safe when they see you on the block 1:29:22.560 --> 1:29:25.240 because they know that you're going to protect them. That's 1:29:25.280 --> 1:29:27.840 what gangster is. That's what real is. So when we 1:29:28.040 --> 1:29:31.200 we we can't glorify nobody's shooting and killing their own 1:29:31.560 --> 1:29:34.200 over two and three dollars or fifty or whatever it is. 1:29:34.320 --> 1:29:36.880 We can't make that cool no more. That ship is over. 1:29:36.960 --> 1:29:40.080 It's completely dead, you know, it's there's no there's no 1:29:40.280 --> 1:29:43.000 honor in that. There's no gangster, there's nothing in that. 1:29:43.479 --> 1:29:45.800 And that's what we have to do in our community. Yeah, 1:29:46.120 --> 1:29:48.560 no killing babies. When I was a kid, when some 1:29:48.680 --> 1:29:51.599 ship was about to go down, they came and they said, 1:29:51.680 --> 1:29:55.240 women and children out the park, women and children go upstairs. 1:29:55.680 --> 1:29:59.400 They forced us upstairs, and and uh, and they made 1:29:59.439 --> 1:30:01.880 sure that the treets was clear before they did whatever, 1:30:02.080 --> 1:30:04.320 handle their business or whatever you want to call it. 1:30:04.800 --> 1:30:06.760 And we gotta make sure there's some kind of colde 1:30:06.800 --> 1:30:08.320 in the streets. So if you're O G, if you 1:30:08.479 --> 1:30:10.640 somebody to think you are O G and you're on 1:30:10.760 --> 1:30:13.479 this live. The biggest part of the work that we 1:30:13.640 --> 1:30:17.120 do is making sure that people who are like you, 1:30:17.400 --> 1:30:19.800 people who've been through this, people who know these young 1:30:19.920 --> 1:30:23.240 people are taking the time to talk to them about 1:30:23.360 --> 1:30:26.080 codes in the street and make sure that they never 1:30:26.320 --> 1:30:30.880 ever opened fire when young kids are around, especially, we 1:30:31.000 --> 1:30:33.200 want them not to open fire at all. But we 1:30:33.360 --> 1:30:38.280 understand that to have poverty and trying to say piece 1:30:38.400 --> 1:30:41.160 needs to exist in the same place is not realistic 1:30:41.320 --> 1:30:46.000 at this point in every situation. But you cannot You 1:30:46.160 --> 1:30:49.840 cannot be in a place and a time in the 1:30:49.960 --> 1:30:53.280 space where you so damn frustrating, crazy off the wall 1:30:53.360 --> 1:30:58.559 and whatever else that a child gets killed, so piece 1:30:58.600 --> 1:31:04.080 out street to listen. We may not always agree, but 1:31:04.200 --> 1:31:06.800 we agreed a lot today. You know, we haven't been 1:31:06.880 --> 1:31:09.160 listen to disagreeing lady. But you know it's gonna be 1:31:09.280 --> 1:31:15.599 times when we talk about uh culture issues we don't. Yeah, 1:31:15.640 --> 1:31:17.960 we when it comes to when it comes to this movement, 1:31:18.000 --> 1:31:21.360 we're pretty much on on point. But like, but this 1:31:21.479 --> 1:31:23.439 is our closest statement. So we always say we may 1:31:23.520 --> 1:31:25.840 not agree, we may not always be right, and we 1:31:25.960 --> 1:31:30.720 not always be wrong, but we will always be all authentics. 1:31:30.840 --> 1:31:35.040 They tuned for Street Podcast, Street Politicians Podcast. It's gonna 1:31:35.080 --> 1:31:38.479 be we got a major things coming, So thank you 1:31:38.520 --> 1:31:41.000 all for tuning in. We hope you enjoyed it. We 1:31:41.080 --> 1:31:44.639 hope you learn something. We learn from y'all and peace. 1:31:47.880 --> 1:31:48.840 That's how we own it.