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Speaker 1: As a guide and hunter. I've spent thousands of days

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Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard

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Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics they'll get you closer

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Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren.

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Speaker 1: This is cutting the distance. Now. Picture this. You're bugling

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Speaker 1: at a bull and he's all fired up. He calls back,

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Speaker 1: and everything you do is right. It seems like this

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Speaker 1: bull is going to come right to where you want

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Speaker 1: him to do, right into bow range. But you're hunting

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Speaker 1: in a fairly open area and you just, for some

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Speaker 1: reason can't get this bull any closer than maybe that

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Speaker 1: hundred hundred and twenty yard maybe hundred and fifty yard mark.

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Speaker 1: The bull just keeps hanging up out of range. What

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Speaker 1: can you do? And why is that bull hanging up?

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Speaker 1: You may not really be doing anything wrong. That bowl

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Speaker 1: is just as close as he needs to be and

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Speaker 1: is letting his eyes do the rest of the walking.

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Speaker 1: So on one hand, congrats you tricked his ears and

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Speaker 1: his nose as well, But how do you trick his eyes?

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Speaker 1: This week, I'm going to break down the use of

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Speaker 1: a cow elk decoy and how employing them adds success.

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Speaker 1: But first I want to share my favorite story of

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Speaker 1: decoys and karma. This story takes place in New Mexico

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Speaker 1: and it was right when these decoys or Elk decoys

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Speaker 1: came out, and honestly, when I first saw him come out,

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Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, this is definitely something that I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to use effectively, because there are so many

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Speaker 1: times where I thought, if I just had something to

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Speaker 1: show the Elk, I could get him to come that

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Speaker 1: further distance on those bowls that just kept hanging up.

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Speaker 1: And so when I first came out, I think it

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Speaker 1: was a Montana Elk decoy was the first one that

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Speaker 1: I ended up buying, and I bought a couple of

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Speaker 1: them before I headed down to New Mexico to guide,

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Speaker 1: and a couple of the other guides that picked him

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Speaker 1: up as well, because it was like, oh, these things

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Speaker 1: are pretty awesome. They're a little expensive, you know, on

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Speaker 1: the ship out of this. So I ended up getting

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Speaker 1: two of them, and when I got down to where

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Speaker 1: I was guiding in New Mexico, a couple of the

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Speaker 1: other guides actually had him as well. In this particular

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Speaker 1: place we had this piece of private that we can

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Speaker 1: early rifle hunt, so it was like the first week

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Speaker 1: of October, somewhere in there in October, and the elk

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Speaker 1: were still running, but it was just like this really

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Speaker 1: hot week and they weren't making a lot of sound.

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Speaker 1: And it's fairly difficult because there's a lot of timber around,

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Speaker 1: a lot of oak brush and some real thick stuff.

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Speaker 1: And then there was this one meadow like pretty much

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Speaker 1: the elk we're just getting in there, and you could

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Speaker 1: just hear them bugling, running around doing their thing, you know.

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Speaker 1: We could see them just after shooting time come out

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Speaker 1: into the meadow and start filing out and feeding out

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Speaker 1: in this meadow, and it was really making me mad.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking, Man, there's gotta be a way we

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Speaker 1: can get these bulls to come out a little bit earlier.

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Speaker 1: All we need is just a half hour ten minutes

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Speaker 1: why don't we pull all of our decoys together and

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Speaker 1: I'll create like a miniature heard of elk out in

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Speaker 1: going to come out at. But maybe just having some

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Speaker 1: them out sooner. So everyone's like, that's a great idea.

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Speaker 1: So I grab everyone's decoys and I think we have

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Speaker 1: We get out in the meadow like mid day and

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Speaker 1: we're just gonna set up, and I at up all

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Speaker 1: the decoys and then I made a blind on the

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like a pasture, but it's just a

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Speaker 1: and it's just like really good and there's elk everywhere,

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Speaker 1: and this this was just a lot of thick timber,

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Speaker 1: So I built a blind on the one side out

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Speaker 1: start letting out a few bugles kind of back in

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Speaker 1: and so we just I see like this, Jimmy, just

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Speaker 1: and so we're sitting there and I wasn't thinking anything

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Speaker 1: out some more cow calls and you know, really getting

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Speaker 1: I'm glassing and I see some movement. I'm like, Ei,

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Speaker 1: the heck? And sure enough, this dude pops out like

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Speaker 1: like looking at him through the binoculas, I'm like, what

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Speaker 1: we're like, hey, hey, dude, what's going on? And he's

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Speaker 1: Now he knows that he's been caught and he's going

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Speaker 1: So he's deciding he's going to go over it, and

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Speaker 1: and as he falls, I don't know how it happened,

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Speaker 1: we are just rolling like the Karma just bit this dude.

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Speaker 1: I could tell, like through my binoculars he's bleeding because

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Speaker 1: he's just like he's just been completely stuck in this

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Speaker 1: a kind of scary scenario, you know. And and at

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Speaker 1: So everybody was really curious and how our first decoy

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Speaker 1: did decoys go? Everyone figured for sure they like we

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Speaker 1: didn't hear any shots, you know, I'm like, oh, you

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Speaker 1: they worked so freaking good, and everyone's super excited, like,

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Speaker 1: just this dude just splayed open and caught on this

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Speaker 1: So of course we didn't get an ELK that day,

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Speaker 1: this again. We learned our lesson. Even though nobody should

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Speaker 1: just whatever. We just tucked him back on the other

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Speaker 1: an hour before sundown. A nice five point. Bull walks

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Speaker 1: his head back and forth, and then he comes straight in.

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Speaker 1: My hunter lines up, boom, shoots and drops the bull.

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Speaker 1: And that was the first time I successfully used elk

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Speaker 1: decoys in bringing in in elk. So before we get

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Speaker 1: saying like that's so stupid using an elk decoy during

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Speaker 1: your rifle season, I know, you know sometimes you're thinking,

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Speaker 1: you know, we were in the middle of private land.

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Speaker 1: There shouldn't you know. You're kind of assuming that people

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Speaker 1: that and then altered our plan. They're pretty new then,

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Speaker 1: but it was definitely legal to use the decoys during

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Speaker 1: the rifle season. Then. There wasn't even a thing. I

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Speaker 1: don't even know. Maybe there's places you can't use them now.

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Speaker 1: We were in the middle of a large piece of

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Speaker 1: private land. There shouldn't have been anyone there and there

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Speaker 1: shouldn't have been clearly like it was very well marked.

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Speaker 1: The person definitely knew they were breaking the law moving

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Speaker 1: in on those elk, like especially the whole face mask

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Speaker 1: and like caliber rifle lent me to believe that that's

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Speaker 1: what was going on. It was. It was definitely a poacher,

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Speaker 1: that's just an elk. You throw out some calls and

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Speaker 1: then get out of sight or hunker down or do

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Speaker 1: something where if I get caught moving in because I

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Speaker 1: found that when you're by yourself, the closer you get

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Speaker 1: That's just my strategy. But having that decoy as a

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Speaker 1: sort of a shield really helps. Now a couple of

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Speaker 1: things you want to be careful of, you know, if

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Speaker 1: like rocking up on some other dude that's calling at you. Also,

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Speaker 1: another thing to think about is just as you're moving,

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Speaker 1: bow and other things. So sometimes just having that decoy

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Speaker 1: available and out in front of you can be difficult

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Speaker 1: that extra point of attention to draw that bowl to

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Speaker 1: on things you can use, things you can utilize. There's

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Speaker 1: so many different strategies, and all those strategies can be

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Speaker 1: understanding these different scenarios and then how to essentially strike

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Speaker 1: know what moves to make, when I promise you, you're

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Speaker 1: it's like a broken record saying probably ten percent of

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Speaker 1: the guys take nine of the elk every year. It's

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Speaker 1: just that the same guys who understand elk behavior and

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Speaker 1: understand what moves to make. Elk hunting can be extremely easy.

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Speaker 1: For people new getting into it, it can be extremely difficult.

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Speaker 1: You know. I've read so many statistics of for most

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Speaker 1: people just to shoot an elk, it takes five to

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Speaker 1: seven years. And that's because that's that learning curve. And

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Speaker 1: then they get in there and it's like, Okay, it

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Speaker 1: took them seven years to get their first elk, and

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Speaker 1: now they're shooting elk every year. But what I want

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Speaker 1: time down to listening to this understanding and taking so

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Speaker 1: many years of just elk experience into the field with you,

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Speaker 1: you could be successful in your first year and every

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Speaker 1: year with just that knowledge and that learning gap decreased.

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Speaker 1: So I really hope that this helps you. And if

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Speaker 1: you have an elk hunted yet, you know, keep thinking

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Speaker 1: these things. So we're gonna keep building this out. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go back and we're just gonna compile like some

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Speaker 1: of my favorite tips of things that I think you

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Speaker 1: should think about. As it now rolls over into September.

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Speaker 1: You should be gearing up, getting everything ready, and I

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Speaker 1: just want a few of these other tips at the

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Speaker 1: top of your mind, because really I could pin down

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Speaker 1: a thousand elk tactics and how to operate each one,

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Speaker 1: and over the course of the life of this podcast,

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Speaker 1: hopefully we can build that out. So I hope you've

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Speaker 1: enjoyed it as a reminder if you are going out hunting,

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Speaker 1: or you like these tips or whatever, seriously tag me

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Speaker 1: and social media and other things. I love seeing that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've gotten some pretty awesome success photos from

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Speaker 1: people early season archery talking about specific episodes that they

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Speaker 1: I mean, so many people brand new to Mule your

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Speaker 1: archery hunting have been sending me pictures some awesome bucks

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Speaker 1: they've taken, just with some of the tactics that they've

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Speaker 1: learned through this podcast. That's some of my favorite stuff

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Speaker 1: to see. So please send those out. I'd love to

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Speaker 1: share those and tag you back in them or whatever.

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Speaker 1: So I really appreciate that. And then thank you guys

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Speaker 1: so much for the comments and the good ratings. You know,

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Speaker 1: if you don't subscribe, or have friends that are hunting

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Speaker 1: with or no people that would like this podcast, share

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Speaker 1: the knowledge. Man, It's like I might as well have

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Speaker 1: everybody in your crew understanding what you know and and

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Speaker 1: helping them kind of cut the distance of the learning

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Speaker 1: curve as well. So if you could share these, that

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Speaker 1: would be great. I really appreciate it. I hope you've

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Speaker 1: enjoyed it. Feel free to shoot me a message either

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Speaker 1: at Remy Warrant on Instagram or Remy at the mediator

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Speaker 1: dot com. I want to get into a few question

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Speaker 1: and answers here coming up, and then good luck this September.

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Speaker 1: I hope that you can take all this stuff you've

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Speaker 1: learned and be successful. I actually know that you will be,

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Speaker 1: so congratulations on your success. Preemptively until next week. Don't

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Speaker 1: go chasing elk decoys. Stick to the live elk that

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Speaker 1: you're used to h