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Speaker 1: Is this a great game or what with the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer Tim Kirkshin. I am Jeff Kirkshin, but better

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Speaker 1: known as Woody because my dad dressed up as Woody

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Speaker 1: for my daughter's birthday.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Dad.

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Speaker 1: It's worth noting this is not the first birthday that

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Speaker 3: Yes. When Carson Keenahan, my our four year old grandson,

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Speaker 3: turned two, his favorite movie was Despicable Me, so Mark

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Speaker 3: And it was so bad that Carson aged two, and

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Speaker 1: Dad, I was at the party. I was dressed as

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Speaker 1: I gotta say, though, do you remember when I had

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Speaker 1: my Blues Clues birthday party? Dressed up as Steve from

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Speaker 1: and thank goodness for that, or else the guys at

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Speaker 3: It was that was really bad. But I had the

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Speaker 3: you know, I went as Rex the Dinosaur because again

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Speaker 3: not to. So I was wearing the Woody outfit and

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Speaker 3: it was It was really fun. It seemed like McKinley, actually,

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Speaker 3: your daughter actually understood what was going on when poor

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Speaker 3: pop up was wearing the Woody outfit. Correct.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta follow us at great game or what.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to put a picture up of my daughter

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Speaker 1: McKinley with my dad dressed as Woody, so follow us

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Speaker 1: to be able to see that image because it is great.

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Speaker 2: She totally knew what was going on.

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Speaker 1: Her cousin Carson aforementioned Carson dressed up as Buzz Lightyear and.

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Speaker 1: She'd just gotten up from a nap we were getting

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great. And Kelly, your sister was Jesse,

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Speaker 1: So Da It's kind of incredible to think about how

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Speaker 2: It came out. The first one came out in nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that kind of insane to think about how relevant

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Speaker 2: I mean, we grew up on it. You put those

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Speaker 3: I've I've seen Toy Story fifty times. It is a

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Speaker 3: Story is the best animated film ever and it's one

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Speaker 1: There's a bunch of little toy blocks, which, noting when

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Speaker 2: We talked about it on Thursday. I was the officiant

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Speaker 2: charge block, you know. And if you don't.

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Speaker 1: Catch the joke, check out the social media and at

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Speaker 1: great game or what give us a follow wherever you

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Speaker 1: do it, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok.

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Speaker 1: And so the wedding, we're partying, we're having a great

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Speaker 1: It's your dad's best friend, Jeff, which artist do you

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Speaker 1: If Joey Firestein were to say it's your dad's best

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Speaker 2: You know that I asked a question.

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Speaker 1: You always ask me a question, and then you ask

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Speaker 2: In more detail.

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Speaker 3: It's Pitbull.

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Speaker 2: It's Pitbull, fire Ball.

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Speaker 1: Old Yeah, it was mister three oh five pit Bull

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Speaker 3: Yes. That was the day at the All Star Game

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Speaker 1: Well, I just wanted to say thank you, Dad, because

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Speaker 3: Yes. Absolutely. That's why being a grandfather is the greatest

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Speaker 3: raising our children all over again. McKinley, Hope looks just

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Speaker 3: So there we go. But your house is really neat, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: I had to get here because we have a tight

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Speaker 2: I had to come down and get on with you.

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Speaker 1: So if I leave in the middle of this, it's

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Speaker 2: I'll be right back, Jeff.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, another thing you get from me, another not so

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Speaker 1: Dad, I was cleaning your house, and not like out

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Speaker 3: So totally understand.

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Speaker 3: Well, Jen Powell umpired in the major leagues, the first

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Speaker 2: I mean just it was unbelievable. Everybody was talking about it.

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Speaker 1: I was lucky that when I went to umpire training

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Speaker 3: And here's Uncle Matt, who was a really good college

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Speaker 1: Mentioned like the nicest guy in the world, not in

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Speaker 2: And honestly, that's insane.

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Speaker 1: I think McKinley's going to join the podcast really fast

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Speaker 2: Daddy's gonna finish the podcast. Give me five. Yeah, you're

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Speaker 1: She's gonna she wants to play in the basement. That's

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Speaker 3: So and you know how much I hate roller coasters, Jeff,

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Speaker 2: That's so beautiful.

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Speaker 1: And listen, Nana was a good athlete, oh day. But

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you did some googling. I mean, it was

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Speaker 3: No, and by the way, I did not pick Drake

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Speaker 2: So well, Dad, we're.

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Speaker 1: gonna go to the Quark Gins. We're gonna go this

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Speaker 3: thirteen times. The last team to do that was the

439
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Speaker 3: two thousand and two Red Sox who were playing in Toronto.

440
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Speaker 3: They got against Toronto thirteen hits, thirteen walks and lost

441
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Speaker 3: the game. It's almost impossible to do that, agreed.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how many base runners are we talking about

443
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Speaker 1: at this point?

444
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Speaker 3: Can you lose? Right? Right? And they only scored four

445
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Speaker 3: runs with at least twenty three base run five to four?

446
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Speaker 2: What?

447
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Dodger pretty good offensive team. Wow? All right,

448
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 3: So Mike Trout's consecutive his streak of consecutive games with

449
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Speaker 3: at least two strikeouts, so multi strikeout games ended at eight.

450
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Speaker 3: And we're certainly not picking on Mike Trout, all time great,

451
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Speaker 3: first ballot Hall of Famer, but it just shows again, Jeff,

452
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Speaker 3: as I keep pointing out how the strikeout rate just

453
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Speaker 3: affects everybody. The stuff we see today is ridiculous. So

454
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Speaker 3: only three position players have ever had a longer streak

455
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Speaker 3: than nine straight games with multi strikeouts. Aaron Judge was

456
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Speaker 3: the first one in twenty sixteen, Michael A. Taylor in

457
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, and this year Raphael Devers struck out

458
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Speaker 3: at least two times in nine consecutive games. Those guys

459
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Speaker 3: are really good hitters. It just shows you again. So

460
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Speaker 3: Trout now has struck out in twelve games in a row.

461
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Speaker 3: Not multi strikeout, but twelve games in a row. Trevor

462
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Speaker 3: Story of the Red Sox has the current active streak.

463
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Speaker 3: Through Sunday. He has struck out in twenty consecutive games.

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Speaker 3: Just take a guess, Jeff, what do you think the

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Speaker 3: record is for most consecutive games with at least one

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Speaker 3: strikeout in the history of baseball?

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Speaker 1: Oh, at least one one would be I mean, in

468
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Speaker 1: this day and age, I'm gonna go thirty, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, Aaron Judge is the record holder. Aaron Judge, A

470
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Speaker 3: it's going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer,

471
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Speaker 3: one of the best players in the game. Struck out

472
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Speaker 3: in thirty seven straight games in twenty seventeen. The only

473
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Speaker 3: other person who did that was a pitcher, Bill Stoneman.

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Speaker 3: Who did it over a two year period nineteen seventy

475
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Speaker 3: one to seventy two. So it's again, jud It just

476
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Speaker 3: shows you, which I tell young people all the time,

477
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Speaker 3: the hardest game in the world to play. And Aaron

478
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Speaker 3: Judge isn't always the best player on the field like

479
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 3: Larry Bird was, like Michael Jordan was. The game doesn't

480
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 3: always revolve around him because he and Mike trouton all

481
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Speaker 3: the other great players have a bad game once in

482
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Speaker 3: a while, because it speaks to the degree of difficulty

483
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Speaker 3: of the game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he had over fifty homers that year, and

485
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Speaker 1: I mean yes, and strikeouts and strike.

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Speaker 3: Twenty seven consecutive games. So and our pal Adam Dunn,

487
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Speaker 3: who we love so much, he struck out in thirty

488
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Speaker 3: six consecutive games, and I believe this is still true.

489
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Speaker 3: His longest hitting streak was thirteen games and his strikeout

490
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Speaker 3: streak was thirty six games. Just shows you how hard

491
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Speaker 3: it is to get a hit and how easy it

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Speaker 3: is to strike out in today's game.

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Speaker 1: Is that also during the time that his wife looked

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Speaker 1: at him and said, hey, you know, have you ever

495
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Speaker 1: considered maybe batting right handed?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? That was his really bad year in Chicago. I

497
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Speaker 3: asked him what was the strangest piece of advice you

498
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Speaker 3: got from anyone? And he said, my wife, not a

499
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Speaker 3: big baseball fan, asked me, have you ever considered batting

500
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Speaker 3: right hand? He said, no, hon, that that's not how

501
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Speaker 3: it works. Okay, last court, youa Jeff that this came

502
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Speaker 3: from Jim Young. Jim Young used to be the PR

503
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Speaker 3: director for the oapland A's mate and now he's official

504
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 3: score at all sorts of games on the West Coast.

505
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Speaker 3: So he did the Giants Nationals game and he sent

506
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Speaker 3: out on Twitter. He sent out that the three games

507
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Speaker 3: played over the weekend between the Giants and the Nationals,

508
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Speaker 3: the game time for all three games was exactly the same,

509
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Speaker 3: two hours and twenty four minutes. Did do you find that?

510
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Speaker 3: Look very pop blood? And yeah? My father was a mathematician.

511
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Speaker 3: He was a PhD in math MIT undergrad. What's the

512
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Speaker 3: probability of three straight games that a team plays and

513
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Speaker 3: they're all the same time? Pretty amazing.

514
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Speaker 2: I can't even do that math there. It's just too

515
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Speaker 2: many numbers for me.

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Speaker 3: So I called Frank for the Elias because I certainly

517
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Speaker 3: couldn't find this. The last time a three game series

518
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Speaker 3: between the same teams, of course, had the same game

519
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 3: time was in two thousand and nineteen, which I thought

520
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 3: it would way further back than that. Kansas City Seattle

521
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 3: played three straight games three hours and seventeen minutes, and

522
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Speaker 3: the winning pitcher, Jeff in the first game get this

523
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Speaker 3: was rowenas Elias and I called Frank from the Elias

524
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Speaker 3: today to confirm this. That's ridiculous, right, it's your favorite.

525
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: You must have been off the wall. So it was

526
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Speaker 3: really good. So, by the way, jeffs, even though I

527
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Speaker 3: narrowed it down to same team, same series, this year,

528
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 3: the Orioles played three straight games, two against the Diamondbacks

529
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Speaker 3: and one against the Blue Jays, and all three of

530
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Speaker 3: them were the same time two hours and thirty seven minutes.

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Speaker 3: So Jim Young, my friend, sends this out. He says,

532
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Speaker 3: Tim question mark Elias. Question Mark, like, look this up.

533
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 3: It happened this year where a at least one team

534
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 3: played three straight games and the game time was exactly

535
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Speaker 3: this eight. How do you explain that?

536
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Speaker 2: I don't understand at all.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of percentages, and I have you ever heard

538
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: of the birthday paradox?

539
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 3: Dad? No?

540
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Speaker 2: So you know you talk about what are the chances

541
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Speaker 2: that this game.

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Speaker 1: Ended at a certain thing, right, Like, it's kind of crazy,

543
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Speaker 1: but I was explaining this over the weekend, and I

544
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Speaker 1: want to give it to you because it doesn't make

545
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Speaker 1: any sense, but I guess it does.

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Speaker 2: Twenty three people in a room.

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Speaker 1: If you put twenty three people in a room, there's

548
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Speaker 1: a fifty to fifty.

549
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Speaker 2: Chance at least two people have the same birthday.

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Speaker 1: Really, which okay, doesn't make any sense, right because you

551
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: would say, okay, there's three hundred and sixty five days

552
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Speaker 1: in the year, you would need to have one hundred

553
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: and eighty two and a half people in the same

554
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Speaker 1: room in order to have a fifty to fifty chance. No,

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Speaker 1: twenty three, that's the number. And it's a fifty to

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Speaker 1: fifty chance. And get this, if you put seventy five

557
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Speaker 1: people in a room, it's a ninety nine point nine

558
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Speaker 1: percent chance that somebody will share or a birthday with

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Speaker 1: somebody else.

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Speaker 3: I had no idea, although I believe it. Yeah. One

561
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Speaker 3: of my favorite court guns ever is that Ian Kinsler

562
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Speaker 3: second Basement came up to me breathless one day and said,

563
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Speaker 3: I know something that you don't know. So I said,

564
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Speaker 3: I'm sure you do so he said, I had a

565
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Speaker 3: homer last night. Willie Harris hit a homer in the

566
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Speaker 3: same game. We're both second basemen on opposing teams and

567
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Speaker 3: we share a birthday. And he said, and that's never

568
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Speaker 3: happened before, and I looked it up. He was right.

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Speaker 3: So two guys in the same game, playing the same

570
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Speaker 3: position each hit a home run and that had never

571
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Speaker 3: happened before.

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Speaker 2: I believe that. Speaking of birthday's dad.

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Speaker 1: Over the weekend, my buddy Parker, who's been very much

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Speaker 1: a member of this family and listens to the podcast,

575
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Speaker 1: he had his girlfriend write a caption for him with

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Speaker 1: a photo of them at the wedding, right, And he

577
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Speaker 1: didn't know what to caption the photo before putting it

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Speaker 1: on social media. It's a picture of the two of them.

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Speaker 1: So she wrote twelve out of ten wedding date, meaning,

580
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Speaker 1: like you know, ten out of ten is a perfect score, right,

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Speaker 1: So she wrote instead of ten slash ten, she wrote

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Speaker 1: twelve slash ten, saying I'm it's even better than a

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Speaker 1: ten out of ten, right, right. She got a call

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Speaker 1: from her mother and he got multiple text messages because

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Speaker 1: they were reading the caption as twelve ten wedding date,

586
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Speaker 1: as in the date of our wedding will be twelve

587
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Speaker 1: aka December ten as in the tenth and her mom

588
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Speaker 1: was so upset, thinking did you get engaged and set

589
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Speaker 1: a wedding date without even telling me what was going on?

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Speaker 3: That was a poorly designed text message, no doubt a right.

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Speaker 3: And who was born on December the tenth?

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Speaker 2: Why do you think I'm bringing this up? It all comes.

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Speaker 1: Back to did you know that Walter Johnson died on

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Speaker 1: December tenth, nineteen forty six and Tim Kirkchen was born

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Speaker 1: December tenth, nineteen fifty six.

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Speaker 3: All right, quit mock with me about Walter Johnson. He's

597
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Speaker 3: a great picture.

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Speaker 1: We did not hit a Walter Johnson mentioned in this

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Speaker 1: episode yet, so I.

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Speaker 3: Wanted to get in it. And I'm wearing my Walter

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Speaker 3: Johnson's sweater even though it's ninety degrees Outside's cold in

602
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 3: the house, Jeb in the house. All right, where are

603
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Speaker 3: we going now?

604
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Speaker 1: I have one courtchin from two members of our family.

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Speaker 1: Nathan and Todd both sent this in Cubs Cardinals game

606
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Speaker 1: this past Friday, August eighth. It was Dansby Swanson was

607
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: the batter, and then along with him was Matt Spansen,

608
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Speaker 1: part of my pronunciation if I get that wrong, SVA

609
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: and son against SWA n Son.

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Speaker 2: And I love this because.

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Speaker 1: You know, in the bugs of the corners of all

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00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: the games, they put the batter and the pitcher's last.

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Speaker 2: Name, so they end up being right next to each other.

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Speaker 1: That's how we get Duran Duran, That's how we get

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00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: these names that are so easy to see. Yeah, fans

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Speaker 1: in versus Swanson pretty great, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not the top it though, Jeff. But years ago

618
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 3: the Astros used three really three pictures in one game

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Speaker 3: named Rodriguez, and a couple of years later, the Rockies

620
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 3: used three pictures in one game named Matt in the

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Speaker 3: same game. So that's hard to do. But yeah, I like.

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Speaker 3: I like when the listeners and the viewers are looking

623
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Speaker 3: at the box scores like we are. They shouldn't be

624
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 3: because it's it's a total waste of time, but I'd

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Speaker 3: love that they are. This just speaks to why we're

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00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 3: doing this show, Jeff. People like this stuff, and therefore

627
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 3: I like this stuff.

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Speaker 1: Go to Great Game or what dot com if you

629
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Speaker 1: ever want to send us something like that. In it's

630
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: super easy. There's a contact us. It goes right to

631
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Speaker 1: my email, so we can check that out.

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Speaker 2: On this date in baseball history, Dad, what do you have.

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Speaker 3: Well on this date. Stan Musial announced his retirement in

634
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Speaker 3: nineteen sixty three at a picnic, made it official. I'm retiring,

635
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 3: you know, after the season. So Stan Musil was one

636
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Speaker 3: of the great hitters of all time, Jeff, one of

637
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Speaker 3: the nicest men of all time. I've told you all

638
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 3: my Stan Musial stories. Dan Shaughnessy, who was our guest

639
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Speaker 3: last year in one of the shows, told me he

640
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: went to he went to a card show where people

641
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 3: kids were getting autographs of all these Hall of famers,

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Speaker 3: and this kid came up on the escalator next to

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Speaker 3: Dan shawness The kid was probably fourteen years old, fifteen.

644
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Speaker 3: He was really upset because he couldn't he got aced

645
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 3: out of Pete Rose's autograph. So Dan just looks at

646
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Speaker 3: the guy, this kid, because he's so upset, And Dan said, well,

647
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Speaker 3: did you get anybody else's autograph? And he said, well,

648
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Speaker 3: I got this guy, Stanmazial, Maziel Stan Mee. I don't

649
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Speaker 3: even know what his name is. So Dan had to

650
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Speaker 3: explain that Stan Musial he got thirty six hundred hits.

651
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 3: He actually got thirty six hundred and thirty hits eighteen

652
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Speaker 3: fifteen at home, eighteen fifteen on the road. So let's

653
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Speaker 3: not forget how great Stan Musial was. And on this

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Speaker 3: date in nineteen sixty three he announced his retirement. Far

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Speaker 3: less of a good story. On this date in nineteen

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Speaker 3: ninety four, the players went on strike and we lost

657
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Speaker 3: the rest of the season, a bunch of players, including

658
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Speaker 3: our dear friend Harrol Reynolds. That was the that they

659
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Speaker 3: never played in the major leagues again. That season ended

660
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,280
Speaker 3: right there, and then they never played another game. Kench

661
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 3: Herbeck was in that group, but he had already announced

662
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 3: his retirement, so it wasn't the same thing because he

663
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 3: knew I'm not playing anymore after the season. But the

664
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Speaker 3: season was lost for him too. And what did he

665
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Speaker 3: do when the official retirement came, Jeff, Let's see how

666
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Speaker 3: well you remember this? Well?

667
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Speaker 1: That means like on August twelfth, he nailed the cup

668
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Speaker 1: to the garage wall for the last time he did.

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Speaker 3: And then I called him like thirty years later, maybe forty, yeah,

670
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Speaker 3: thirty years later to do like a recap and just

671
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 3: to relive that day in nineteen ninety four, and he

672
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 3: told me that Protective Cup is still hanging on the

673
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 3: wall in my garage. I love it. So, Jeff, there

674
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Speaker 3: was no there was no World Series that year, as

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Speaker 3: you know, so at Sports Illustrated they sent me to

676
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 3: cover the Charlotte Richmond Triple A World Series. Okay, So

677
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 3: I'm covering that and I'm in the Charlotte clubhouse, and

678
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 3: you know, it's a very small minor league clubhouse, but

679
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 3: these are big games. So I'm I'm there and I

680
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 3: look in like the player's lounge, which was a very

681
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 3: small room, and they're watching Jeopardy, Jeff, in the player's lounge, okay,

682
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 3: and one of them and I just happened to see

683
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 3: it as I walk by. Soon after, one of the

684
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 3: players comes flying out of the room with his hands

685
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 3: raised in the air because he won. So I looked

686
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 3: in again, and the final jeopardy answer was a poetry question.

687
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 3: So I looked at Tim Jones, who was a reliever

688
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 3: for the Charlotte team, and I said, did your teammate

689
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 3: get the poetry question right? And he goes, no, no, No,

690
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,919
Speaker 3: we're baseball players. That's not how we play the game.

691
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Speaker 3: If you guess the final jeopardy category, you win. So

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00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 3: he had guessed poetry, and that's how he was only

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Speaker 3: in baseball.

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Speaker 2: Only in baseball.

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Speaker 3: Okay, a couple other things. Jeff. Two thousand and one,

696
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Speaker 3: Greg Maddox's National League streak of seventy two and a

697
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 3: third innings without a walk finally ended seventy two and

698
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 3: a third no walk's national league record. And get this, Jeff,

699
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 3: it ended on an intentional walk to Steve Finley in

700
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 3: the third inning of that game. So it's always intrigued me.

701
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 3: Maddox of course struck out. I mean, pitched over five

702
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 3: thousand innings, only walked nine hundred and ninety nine guys,

703
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 3: but one hundred and seventy seven of them were intentional walks.

704
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 3: Remember what Jim Palmer used to say about intentional walks.

705
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 3: If I don't think I can get this guy, I'm

706
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 3: not going to pitch to him. I'm going to get

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00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 3: the next guy out. That's what great That's how great

708
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 3: pitchers think. So Kent Takulby, with one seventy nine is

709
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 3: the only pitcher ever to have more intentional walks. He

710
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 3: had one seventy nine. Greg Maddox had won seventy seven

711
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 3: and last thing, Jeff on this date and this is

712
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 3: said Paul Casanova died. Paul Casanova was a catcher for

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Speaker 3: the Washington Senators when I was growing up a huge

714
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 3: Senators fan, and he had a great throwing arm. He

715
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 3: could hit the ball out of the ballpark. Wasn't a

716
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 3: great player, but he was our catcher, and he threw

717
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 3: the ball back to the pitcher harder than the pitchers

718
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 3: sometimes threw it to him. So about fifteen years ago, Jeff,

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Speaker 3: I'm at the Winter Meetings and there is a security

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Speaker 3: guard at the door of the where the media is

721
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Speaker 3: allowed to enter, and you have to have your credential

722
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Speaker 3: otherwise you're not allowed in. So the security guard I

723
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 3: looked at him and I went, oh my god. And

724
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Speaker 3: I looked at him and I said, you're Paul Casanova,

725
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 3: aren't you. And he went like this, Oh my gosh,

726
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 3: I can't believe you recognize me. So we had a

727
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 3: long chat about Cazzie and how much I enjoyed watching

728
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 3: him grow up. And here it was, you know, many

729
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 3: years after he'd finished playing, he was the security guard

730
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Speaker 3: at the press door at the Winter Meetings.

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Speaker 1: Your recall is unbelievable, especially years and years later when

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Speaker 1: people probably don't look.

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Speaker 2: At all like they used to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Jeff, it would be like you running into

735
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Speaker 3: somebody that you watched on you know whose line is

736
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Speaker 3: in any way, and he happens to be the security guard.

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Speaker 3: So of course you would say, hey, I watched you

738
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Speaker 3: growing up all the time.

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Speaker 1: Right, I would absolutely recognize Ryan styles just about anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Brady absolutely no worries.

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Speaker 3: Jeff. Okay, So we do we have a team tim

742
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 3: because we are finding, Jeff, that people are really interested

743
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Speaker 3: in these team tim which I do now sometimes twice

744
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 3: a week. Look, it's fun, it's pointless, it means nothing,

745
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 3: but I enjoy doing them because it just keeps me

746
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,919
Speaker 3: up to date. And so we had a guy named

747
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 3: Tristan English who made his major league debut this year

748
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 3: for the Arizona Diamondbacks. When they traded Josh Naylor. They

749
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 3: needed someone to play first base. He since not in

750
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Speaker 3: the big leagues at the moment, but Tristan English is

751
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 3: our new guys. So I did the All Nationality team, Jeff. Okay,

752
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 3: So this is different than the All country team or

753
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 3: the All city team. This has to be a nationality

754
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 3: And I'm by no means an expert on this, but

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Speaker 3: I'd love that The catcher is Jim French, who was

756
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Speaker 3: the best backup catcher to Paul Casanova, who I just

757
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: told you about when I was growing up. Jim French

758
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Speaker 3: is our catcher. Tristan English is at first, Dutch Meyer

759
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 3: is at second, Tye France is at third. But it's

760
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Speaker 3: the tie t Y, not the France. France is not

761
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Speaker 3: a nationality, it's a country. Irish Musil is one outfielder.

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Welsh is another, and I I couldn't find a third.

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna pretend that I found a third outfielder,

764
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Speaker 3: but I couldn't find him, and boy did I try.

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Speaker 3: I tried everywhere.

766
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Speaker 2: Let's put the family up for it.

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Speaker 3: If you can think of a third out the third

768
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Speaker 3: outfielder on the all Nationality team, and our pitcher is

769
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Speaker 3: Tyler Danish. So effect so that is the team tim

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Speaker 3: for this week. And I'm so glad that people enjoy

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Speaker 3: these because I do. Also, I've been doing these since

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Speaker 3: I was eight years old and I'm sixty eight now

773
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Speaker 3: and they're still kind of fun to do because that's

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Speaker 3: what I still like to do.

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Speaker 2: Joe West is going to be our guest tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Dad.

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00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: It's the first umpire that we will have on the show,

778
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: which is long overdue. He has umpired more games than

779
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: any other major league umpire in history, and we cannot

780
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: wait to have him join us, Dad, because you and I,

781
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: as we mentioned before on our tiny little level, loved umpiring. Aly,

782
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: I have my gear? Should I have Wait? Should I

783
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: put it on for the interview? Or is that too hokey?

784
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 3: Uh? I think you should put it on. I think

785
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 3: he would get a kick out of that.

786
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 2: I'll just put my I'll have the mask out.

787
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: It's like, Dad, it's buried because my wife's like, why

788
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: do we have this stuff?

789
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: So I had to hide it in the back storage

790
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 2: area so she didn't know I kept it.

791
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 3: Well, the one thing we're not going to do Jeff

792
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 3: when we get Joe west On, who broke the record

793
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 3: who that was set by Bill Klem. Bill Klem, Jeff

794
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 3: died in nineteen fifty one. He died, and that's the

795
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 3: record that Joe west broke that many years later or

796
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,439
Speaker 3: five thousand major league games. Uh So we're not going

797
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 3: to give Joe west to our ball strike calls. Okay,

798
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 3: We're not going to do that because you don't think, No,

799
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 3: what's yours, but you could do it for me. We

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Speaker 3: were not going to do it for Joe West.

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00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: Well, listen, I I was untraditional because I would I

802
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: would do it differently depending on the situation, Like obviously,

803
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 1: like my strike call was different as a strike one

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00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: if the kid had just thrown another strikeout, right, like

805
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: if the energy. I'm a I'm a performer, I'm a

806
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: theater kid. So my strike call was just pretty basic

807
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: strike that was it.

808
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 3: That was it.

809
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: And then my my, you want to hear my punch

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00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: out strike three?

811
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, you're right three and you got you

812
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 3: got the hands moving right, the leg the leg would

813
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 3: I would pull my leg in, but I told you,

814
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Speaker 3: and I'm going to bring this up with Joe West.

815
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Speaker 1: I hope I don't embarrass you. My favorite call of

816
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: all time was one what was it? What's my favorite call?

817
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 3: To?

818
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 2: Makes an umpire off the bag?

819
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 3: Safe off the bag.

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00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 2: And you get to throw them off. That was always

821
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Speaker 2: my favorite to make.

822
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: In fact, I think I would get so excited to

823
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: call it sometimes I would mistakenly.

824
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Speaker 3: Call it right well, Jeff, it was a bit of

825
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 3: a reach when you showed Emily, your wife, how to

826
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 3: do safe off the bag, totally unnecessary, absolutely unnecessary, right,

827
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 3: But that's you loved umpiring, so did I. We're gonna

828
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Speaker 3: have Joe West on on Wednesday. And if you have

829
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Speaker 3: any questions for Joe west that you want to ask

830
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 3: about the umpiring in a game, Okay, that's what we're

831
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Speaker 3: looking for here. We laugh and we learn on this show.

832
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 3: So he is going to educate us on some of

833
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 3: the rules that people might not know about umpiring.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, it's going to be incredible. He's going to

835
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Speaker 2: join us.

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Speaker 1: Make sure to follow, subscribe, and listen to tomorrow's episode,

837
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: share it with a friend to be a great time.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for listening and as always, thank you for

839
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 2: being a part of our family.

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