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Speaker 3: My friend disrespected my home rules, so I left her

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Speaker 3: I will truly spare no detail. I'm giving you the

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Speaker 3: full backstory, all the drama, all the twists and turns

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Speaker 3: It's a story about a girl who was all around messy, stupid,

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Speaker 3: and compulsive liar most likely, and how she basically destroyed

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Speaker 3: her life. My revenge isn't petty because she pretty much

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Speaker 3: did everything herself, but I was still satisfied and it

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Speaker 3: filled my cup of revenge. By the way, this comes

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Speaker 3: slash Okay Storytime subreddit. Been thinking about posting this story

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Speaker 3: for a while since I got my fair share of

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Speaker 3: petty points for doing what I did, but also it

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Speaker 3: was deserved, so I'm not even sorry. Maybe someone will

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Speaker 3: get some enjoyment out of it. I've been told before

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Speaker 3: to post this story on Reddit, and now I'm ready

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Speaker 3: to share. This all happened about three years ago. I

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Speaker 3: female twenty four at the time, was together with my

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Speaker 3: then boyfriend now ex male twenty five at the time, Chris.

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Speaker 3: He had a work friend about the same age as us. Honestly,

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Speaker 3: I can't remember her exact age, probably around twenty four

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Speaker 3: or twenty five at the time, same as ours. We'll

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Speaker 3: call her Dana. Since Chris worked as a delivery driver

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Speaker 3: my free days just driving around in the passenger seat

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Speaker 3: of his delivery van. We had fun, We ate snacks

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Speaker 3: and listen to music. I liked being a passenger prince off.

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Speaker 3: Dana was his colleague, also a delivery driver for the

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Speaker 3: same company, doing the exact same job, just delivering packages

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Speaker 3: to a different area in the city. They had become

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Speaker 3: really good, just platonic friends, so some mornings when they

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Speaker 3: waited for their vans to be loaded, I saw her

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Speaker 3: around and eventually we started talking and really hit it off.

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Speaker 3: All three of us started hanging out together. Dana was

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Speaker 3: much drinky pooh for every day, but hey, I can't judge.

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Speaker 3: She loved all the attention for men and all that,

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Speaker 3: but at the same time, it was fun to be

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Speaker 3: know that she would be down for whatever. So we

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Speaker 3: all went to a car show together, friends, gatherings, swimming, fishing.

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Speaker 3: My boyfriend loved doing that. Just driving around the city

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Speaker 3: at night. Sometimes me and her would talk about our experiences,

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Speaker 3: our relationships, the drama, the trauma, and everything in between.

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Speaker 3: She and I shared some similar experiences and relationship and

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Speaker 3: family traumas, so we really connected. Not to make this longer,

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Speaker 3: but our trio became really good friends. A couple of

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Speaker 3: months go by, enter another character from Chris's work, Jack,

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Speaker 3: also the same job, also a car guy like my boyfriend,

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Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken. They knew each other beforehand, and

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Speaker 3: Chris got him a job there since it was great

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Speaker 3: Chris and he would hang around pretty much every day

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Speaker 3: practice married. To their cars. Jack started to like Dana.

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Speaker 3: She wasn't his usual type. He was more of a blonde, skinny, demure,

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Speaker 3: much a four person friend group, me and my boyfriend,

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Speaker 3: and she was a loving it. He would pay for

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Speaker 3: her drinks, her food, and would take her on drives

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Speaker 3: She opened up that she didn't really like him. He

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Speaker 3: that's completely fine. But I was disappointed because she let

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Speaker 3: His opinion was just let that conversation go. They'll figure

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Speaker 3: I also didn't want to start any unnecessarily drama. It's

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Speaker 3: And that was kind of true, because after me and

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Speaker 3: Dana talked about Jack that one time, you never really

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Speaker 3: When all of us were together, you would think that

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Speaker 1: When did y'all become boyfriend girlfriends?

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Speaker 3: I thought somebody was not feeling anything about this guy.

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Speaker 3: We said that you didn't like him. I didn't know

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Speaker 3: He remembered that some time ago, before Jack was in

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Speaker 3: she was also leaving her job. That almost two weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: both knew that she had issues with money. She had

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Speaker 3: told us that before, but we really didn't know the

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Speaker 3: extent of that. According to her, when she was about eighteen,

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Speaker 3: For me and Chris were together. I used to live

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Speaker 3: nothing fancy. Needed a little work, but I don't really

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Speaker 3: She wouldn't have to pay me any rent, just pay

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Speaker 3: With this situation, she would pretty much have her own place.

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Speaker 3: I had been living with him already for six to

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Speaker 3: seven months. I also told her some rules if she

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Speaker 3: loves attention from men and occasional one night stands, plus

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Speaker 3: Still no response. While this is all happening, Chris and

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Speaker 3: thing is different. Jack refuses to talk about Dana at all.

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Speaker 4: You, she see she did not if this girl changed

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Speaker 3: Chris had an idea we could postpone our visit until Monday,

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Speaker 3: kind of already knew that. I see an ashtray on

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Speaker 3: are already completely dead. Of course she has had that

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Speaker 3: can't get in the apartment and is left with her

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00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,480
Speaker 3: work purse, whatever's on her person, and nothing else. Jack

433
00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,040
Speaker 3: and Chris talk for one Chris explains the situation, also

434
00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,680
Speaker 3: mentioning the guy that has apparently been living there with her.

435
00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,919
Speaker 3: We just found out through mutual friends that it was

436
00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,199
Speaker 3: the same guy she got wasted with and left that

437
00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,200
Speaker 3: night at the car meet bus. He's been staying there

438
00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,639
Speaker 3: for a while. Chris pretty much tells him everything, and

439
00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,840
Speaker 3: Jack is just not having it. In his eyes, Dana

440
00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,200
Speaker 3: could do no such thing, dude. It stop being such

441
00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,960
Speaker 3: a freaking sent man. Apparently. Jack said they've been going

442
00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,400
Speaker 3: out almost every evening and could be considered a couple now.

443
00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,359
Speaker 3: Chris and Jack finish up talking. Jack tells him that

444
00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,600
Speaker 3: he is going to take Dana into his place for now,

445
00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,680
Speaker 3: but that we should really figure this crap out because

446
00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,960
Speaker 3: he's not taking her to move in with him.

447
00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,000
Speaker 1: I could give zero f's.

448
00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,680
Speaker 3: Later that night, Dana messaged me and sends me a

449
00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,919
Speaker 3: really long paragraph basically saying that she never agreed to

450
00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,399
Speaker 3: pay anything. Not true, and that I am the a

451
00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,560
Speaker 3: hole for bringing up any bills and utilities out of

452
00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,479
Speaker 3: the blue. She doesn't remember any conversations about her paying anything,

453
00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,600
Speaker 3: which is why she never answered, because she didn't know

454
00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,520
Speaker 3: what to say. And I was just asking for money

455
00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,760
Speaker 3: now for no reason. Now I was just changing the

456
00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,200
Speaker 3: locks without a reason as well, and she can't get home.

457
00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,439
Speaker 3: She didn't do anything wrong and wants at least some

458
00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,240
Speaker 3: of her stuff for now and to talk about getting

459
00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,200
Speaker 3: the rest. I was livid. Now I have to deal

460
00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,679
Speaker 3: with gas lighting. However, I knew what to do. I

461
00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,760
Speaker 3: remembered a time where we me, Chris, Dana, and Jack

462
00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,399
Speaker 3: were at Mickey D's with a bunch of other friends.

463
00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,560
Speaker 3: A good portion of the friend group all started talking

464
00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,040
Speaker 3: about the fact that Dana recently moved into my place.

465
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,600
Speaker 3: Everyone was really happy that something had worked out for Dana,

466
00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,439
Speaker 3: and we all talked about how it would be really

467
00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,280
Speaker 3: easy for her to get on her feet by just

468
00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,080
Speaker 3: paying the utilities at my place. We even discussed how

469
00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,600
Speaker 3: my utilities were cheaper than everyone else's since my apartment

470
00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,439
Speaker 3: is not at the center of the city and is

471
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,400
Speaker 3: pretty small. Remembering this gave me an idea. I wasn't

472
00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,320
Speaker 3: done with her. I didn't care that now I had

473
00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 3: everything she owned at my place and she couldn't get

474
00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:59,560
Speaker 3: to it. I didn't care that she didn't even have

475
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,280
Speaker 3: a change clothes or her charger. I was more mad

476
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,679
Speaker 3: that she was now trying to gaslight me into believing

477
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,439
Speaker 3: that I never said she had to pay anything. So

478
00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 3: I made a group chat everybody who was at that

479
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 3: table at McDonald's that night, and a couple more of

480
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,960
Speaker 3: our mutual friends just for the fun of it, some

481
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,680
Speaker 3: boyfriends and girlfriends, et cetera, and of course Dana, Jack

482
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 3: and Chris. I think it was around twelve to fourteen

483
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,680
Speaker 3: people in total. I sent a pretty long message basically

484
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 3: explaining the situation and asking about our conversation that night.

485
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,359
Speaker 3: Did I really say that Dana could live there for free?

486
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 3: And the group chat blew up. No one could believe

487
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,920
Speaker 3: what Dana did, and she was getting drag Everyone remembered

488
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,680
Speaker 3: our conversation, and some friends even remembered Dana saying that

489
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,159
Speaker 3: she could maybe pay me something in rent when she

490
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,879
Speaker 3: got back on her feet, not only utility bills. I

491
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,120
Speaker 3: ended up sending some screenshots from mine and Dana's chat,

492
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 3: some other receipts, and everyone is dragging Dana even more

493
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 3: and more. Dana had already told some of those people

494
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 3: that I locked her out, but didn't really say why. Also,

495
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 3: this group chat reveals that she owes a lot of

496
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,919
Speaker 3: money to some of these friends. She asked them to

497
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,640
Speaker 3: help out because I was asking her to pay ungodly

498
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 3: amount of rent each month. Dana, of course left the chat.

499
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 3: Jack stays and reads everything, not contributing, just reading. Amongst

500
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 3: these friends is also the girl twenty eight that got

501
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 3: Dana her new job, Tina. We were not very close,

502
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,479
Speaker 3: but sometimes saw each other since our boyfriends are card guys.

503
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 3: She is the most shocked and messages me privately. She

504
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 3: writes all the things Dana has been saying behind my

505
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 3: back to whoever will listen. Those things you can most

506
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 3: likely guess about the huge rent that I'm asking from nowhere,

507
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 3: that I won't leave her alone, about the money, how

508
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,160
Speaker 3: we're trying to break her and Jack apart, all of that.

509
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 3: Tina and I end up meeting and she says she

510
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 3: can actually get Dana fired if I wanted to. I

511
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 3: say no, Op says that that would be a little

512
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 3: too petty of me to do.

513
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:40,919
Speaker 1: Thank you.

514
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 3: As much as I hate her now, I was actually

515
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 3: thinking of giving her all of her stuff back, because

516
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 3: what would I do with it? Anyways, I also don't

517
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 3: think I have the guts to leave a fellow girl

518
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 3: with absolutely nothing. I actually was kind of sad for her.

519
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 3: She doesn't have anywhere to go and absolutely know stuff

520
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 3: to her name. A couple of days past, Chris and

521
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 3: Jack meet at work and Jack says that the group

522
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 3: chat knight, she just drove away and blocked him. His

523
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 3: eyes opened when he read everything, and it's a good

524
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 3: thing he didn't even have a chance to see her

525
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 3: after reading all that, because he would have lost it.

526
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 3: The three of us meet and we talked through it all.

527
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,439
Speaker 3: Now some of his side of the story. Since the beginning,

528
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 3: Dana never said anything about Tom. Of course, how could she.

529
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 3: She behaved, talked and acted like she was single. She

530
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 3: had Jack wrapped pretty tight around her finger. She never

531
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 3: told him where she lived exactly. Pick up and drop

532
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 3: offs were from the gas station near Tom's place, and

533
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 3: managed to keep Tom a relationship and living with a

534
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 3: man a secret until the move. We later found out

535
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 3: that she told Tom that she was just out with friends.

536
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 3: Tom broke up with her because someone, most likely Tom's friend,

537
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 3: who knew that they were together, had seen Dana and

538
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 3: Jack kissing and told him, and he already suspected cheating,

539
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,439
Speaker 3: so that was all he needed. She pretty much gas

540
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 3: lit Jack moving forward. When Jack asked about Tom just

541
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 3: after they broke up and she moved to my place,

542
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 3: she reminded him that she explicitly never said that she

543
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 3: was single, that she was in love with Jack, and

544
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 3: she wanted to break up with Tom at the time anyways,

545
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 3: just to be with Jack. She manipulated him into not

546
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 3: talking about it with anyone at all, which is why

547
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 3: he didn't want to hear anything about those bills at

548
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 3: the time. Dana just dug up some lies if the

549
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 3: situation changed anywhere, and managed to keep the coast clear.

550
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 3: When she moved into my place, they continued to meet

551
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 3: about three or four times a week in the evenings,

552
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 3: just driving around and falling in love. But apparently Dana

553
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 3: wasn't as much falling in love if we remember the

554
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 3: random guy at the ar meat incident, and Jack, of course,

555
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 3: knew nothing of this. He was under the impression that

556
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 3: they were slowly becoming a couple and all that until

557
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 3: the group chat night when all went to crap. He

558
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 3: apologized for being a bad and completely blind friend and

559
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,360
Speaker 3: it's okay, buddy. Women can pull the wool over our

560
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 3: eyes sometimes. Now back to Dana and how she didn't

561
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 3: get her crap back to recap, some time had passed

562
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,719
Speaker 3: since the group chat night. None of her friends were

563
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 3: speaking to her anymore. Some just sent her passive aggressive

564
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 3: text and asked for their money back. She didn't respond.

565
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 3: We didn't hear from her for two months. Chris, through

566
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 3: some work colleagues, heard wherea was living. It turned out

567
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 3: that she had contacted one of her ex colleagues at

568
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 3: Chris's work, someone who was a pretty good friend of hers,

569
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 3: and begged for a place to stay. He male in

570
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 3: his mid thirties and his wife female twenty seven, had

571
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 3: a house in the city and the second floor was

572
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 3: pretty much empty, so she was now living there. Let's

573
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 3: call this couple Rachel and Ross. Just for fine. Chris

574
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 3: told Ross that if Dana wanted her stuff back, she

575
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 3: had to come to our place, apologize and tell us

576
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 3: what the heck was going on with her, because that

577
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 3: was what I wanted to receive if I was to

578
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 3: give back her stuff, an apology and an explanation, because

579
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 3: I could understand anything if you were truly sorry and

580
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 3: understood what you did and tried to fix the whole thing.

581
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 3: I still understood that Dana had not had an easy life,

582
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 3: and that can really cause a person to do weird

583
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 3: and awful stuff, especially if she was in survival mode

584
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 3: with depression and anxiety and was just trying to find

585
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 3: her way. Ross also spent some time with Chris talking

586
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 3: about the whole apartment situation. Was really surprised to hear

587
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 3: some of that stuff. He said, Dana told him something,

588
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 3: but not that, and he wanted to talk a little

589
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 3: too wife before they made any decisions. He took that

590
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 3: conversation home, and a couple of days later we were

591
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 3: invited to their house. We didn't know what was happening,

592
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 3: so we just went there blindly. We didn't know if

593
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 3: Dana was going to be there or not, and she wasn't.

594
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 3: Because it turns out after Ross came home and started

595
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 3: to ask questions. Dana took whatever new stuff she had

596
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 3: gotten herself, jumped in her car and left. She didn't

597
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 3: have much stuff, so moving out from there was pretty easy.

598
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 3: Ross and Rachel wanted to know more about the situation,

599
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 3: so they invited us over. He made us a nice

600
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 3: dinner and we talked everything out. We told them the

601
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 3: whole story, and they were shocked. Dana had told them

602
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 3: that we broke up her and her boyfriend and because

603
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 3: of us, she didn't have a place to stay, and

604
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 3: the same story about the apartment that I changed the

605
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 3: locks out of nowhere, that I wanted her to pay

606
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 3: some crazy amount for rent every month, and when she couldn't,

607
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 3: I just changed the locks and now she had no stuff.

608
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 3: They felt really bad for and invited her to live

609
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 3: in their house on the second floor. It was empty anyway,

610
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 3: with just some basic furniture. Turns out she did stupid

611
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 3: things with them too. She would eat all of their food,

612
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 3: not buying any. Rachel made dinner for everyone and Dana

613
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 3: would eat more than half of it. Yes, he was

614
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 3: a stress eater. Ross's snacks were gone. She would sometimes

615
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 3: snarkily comment that he bought things she didn't like. Since

616
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 3: she had no stuff, she used a lot of Rachel's

617
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 3: stuff toiletry is the hair dryer, the hair straight clothes, socks, shoes,

618
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 3: nail polished towels, makeup chargers. One time, she even left

619
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 3: the hair straightener plugged in for a whole night and

620
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 3: burned the entire wooden floor underneath it. Good thing the

621
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 3: house didn't catch on fire. Ross and Rachel started to

622
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 3: see that Dana could be a problem and began talking

623
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 3: with her about the food, about coming home late at night,

624
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 3: and the loud music from the car when someone dropped

625
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,959
Speaker 3: her off back at the house, about the frickin' straightener

626
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 3: almost burning the house down, she had consumed everything from

627
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 3: their bar, and a lot of other small problems they

628
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 3: were having. Dana didn't listen and continued with her behavior.

629
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 3: And the conversation that Ross and Chris had the first time. Well,

630
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 3: that put everything together for Ross and he went home

631
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 3: to confront her, and she just left. After that talk

632
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 3: with Ross and Rachel, I realized she didn't deserve her

633
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 3: stuff back. I gave her an option. She could have

634
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 3: just apologized to me and she could have her stuff back,

635
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 3: but no. Later that week, me and some friends from

636
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 3: the group went to my place to pack it up

637
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 3: and donate most of it. I kept nothing. By the way,

638
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 3: you can listen to a whole lot of something and

639
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 3: it's full episodes with stories quite similar to this. Just

640
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 3: go to Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeartRadio, wherever you listen to podcasts,

641
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 3: search Okay story Time and there you have it. Folks,

642
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 3: We're easy to find. Do you want to know how

643
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 3: she lost her new job? She and Tina got in

644
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 3: an argument at work and she slashed Tina's tired No no,

645
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 3: there was security camera footage, and the boss fired her

646
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 3: immediately later. We found out that after she was living

647
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 3: in a small shared apartment with two Indian guys. Sometimes

648
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Speaker 3: I think that the whole thing actually was crazy for her,

649
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 3: and she was truly left with nothing and is living

650
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 3: a crazy, crazy life now. But at the same time,

651
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Speaker 3: I really did nothing wrong, and I'm kind of glad

652
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 3: karma got to her bye. You almost did nothing wrong

653
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Speaker 3: except for the donating all of her crap stuff. But

654
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, in a way, you

655
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 3: were kind of gonna do the same thing, because I

656
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 3: doubt she was gonna come get it. You've given her

657
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 3: ammunition that she could theoretically weasel her way back in

658
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Speaker 3: and become another ache in your life.

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Speaker 1: My sister in law made offensive jokes, so I called

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Speaker 1: To give a bit of background, I thirty female, moved

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Speaker 1: to the UK nearly seven years ago from the US.

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Speaker 1: I was able to get a UK passport from my father,

666
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Speaker 1: who immigrated to the US where he met my mother.

667
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: She actually fled to the US from South America. After university,

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Speaker 1: I decided to live and travel throughout Asia and the

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Speaker 1: Middle East for a few years, teaching English in poor

670
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Speaker 1: and sometimes dangerous areas, before I finally made the decision

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Speaker 1: to go back to my roots and move to Europe

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Speaker 1: for good.

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Speaker 2: That sounds like a cool life.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like a cool life, and all of this is

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Speaker 1: important for later, So put your ICUs in the chat

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Speaker 1: if you see what's going to happen. By the way,

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00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: four years in, I met the love of my life

681
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Speaker 1: and we got married. We decided to buy a house

682
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Speaker 1: in the countryside, and as we were getting things ready

683
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Speaker 1: with the mortgage, his family was kind enough to let

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Speaker 1: us move into their home for the time being. This

685
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: was a massive change for me, but I didn't care,

686
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: as I grew to be a part of his family,

687
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: including his only brother, Matt, who I considered to be

688
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: the brother I never had. My husband and I were

689
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: there whenever Matt went through breakups and gave him dating

690
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: advice whenever he was seeing someone. Until he finally met Vicky.

691
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: Vicky good or bad man it could be. Until he

692
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 2: finally met Vicky.

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00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: Feels evil like Vicky Ickey.

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00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: Vicky Icky, Vicky is the vibes Man. Sorry to any

695
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: Vicky's out there.

696
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: I'm not just kidding. When we met her, we thought

697
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: she was sweet, down to earth and didn't take herself

698
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: too seriously, which is what Matt needed. But over time

699
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: she started to display questionable behavioral traits. Once at the

700
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Speaker 1: dinner table, I said something about being Latina and she said, well,

701
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Speaker 1: at least you're not a dirty Indian. That's questionable. This just,

702
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's crazy. Oh he called that questionable.

703
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: Ah oh, oh my god. Oh that is she should

704
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: not babysit.

705
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a job that I don't want

706
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: her to have.

707
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Speaker 1: Maybe not destroy my child's complete self esteem and sense

708
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: of identity. That would be great. Is ter it happened?

709
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: So mind you, My husband Matt and I are all

710
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: for some dark humor, but that comment almost knocked me

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Speaker 1: off of my chair.

712
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 2: Is that humor?

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00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: That is no? That is no. In fact, I don't

714
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: think we all think she said what she said, because

715
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Speaker 1: it was so out of the blue, like like they

716
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: were almost like, did you evens stay to say that?

717
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: She was obviously trying to be funny. So we all laughed,

718
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: but it was obvious that it made us uncomfortable. Yeah, okay,

719
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: Well another time I took my husband to Turkey for

720
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Speaker 1: his birthday and I sent a video to our family

721
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: group chat of him sunbathing by our hotel's pool with

722
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Speaker 1: the sound of a call to prayer echoing from the

723
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: blue mosque in so I see you, I see you.

724
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Speaker 1: This is gonna be so bad, this is gonna be.

725
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Speaker 2: I don't see I don't I see you. The exact

726
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: thing that's gonna be said because I'm not, but I

727
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: know there's comment.

728
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Speaker 1: It is tragically just about to happen. So as a response,

729
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: she texted that sound would freak me out, clearly suggesting

730
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Speaker 1: like it was a self harm bomber. No op, no,

731
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: I can see how that would fly over people's heads.

732
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: But I knew what she was talking about. But I

733
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: get it. She has never been to the Middle East,

734
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: so as someone who has lived there, I took the

735
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: time to educate her on what that call to prayer

736
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Speaker 1: is and how it's actually beautiful.

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Speaker 2: All right, Again, I think in the context of the

738
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: last comment, I would like it feels a little charged,

739
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: but that comment in isolation could potentially not be It's like, oh,

740
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 2: that would that would freak me out, not knowing what

741
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 2: it was. Yeah, Like I feel like this the self

742
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: harm harm bomber thing is like I wouldn't necessarily make

743
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: the connection to that, yeah, or with you, I don't

744
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: add a context.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I would. I don't know. Yeah,

746
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: I guess we don't know what the I don't know

747
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: if the other texts is what would make more I

748
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: feel sense.

749
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 2: I feel like it feels the context of what she

750
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: said last, but not in like I wouldn't. I wouldn't necessarily.

751
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: I feel like it's like, I feel like this is

752
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: way less aggressive than the last one.

753
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Speaker 1: So I educated her on that that was a call

754
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: to prayer and how it's actually beautiful, which is great.

755
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: I think that's exactly what you should do. Absolutely. However,

756
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: it wasn't until yesterday when I had had enough of

757
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: her closed minded remarks that she clearly is trying to

758
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: pass off his lighthearted jokes. As I mentioned, the family

759
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: has a group chat where we send memes and jokes

760
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: to each other. More I see us in the chat.

761
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: As you can imagine, Vicky sometimes doesn't know how to

762
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: read the room and sends inappropriate memes to the family. Yesterday,

763
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: she sent a meme that was a picture of a

764
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Speaker 1: huge group of immigrants on an inflatable raft in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the ocean, with the caption that said, where's

766
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: Jaws when you need him? Oh my god. I mean,

767
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: Opie's saying like, oh, she's trying to pass it off

768
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: as a joke, but like, that's just like saying the thing.

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00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: Opie's just saying the thing right there. It's crazy to

770
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: share it anywhere but in a family group chadd dude.

771
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: My husband thought it was too much, and so did

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Speaker 1: his mom. I, on the other hand, was like, hell

773
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Speaker 1: to the absolute and definite f No, thank God, stand

774
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: up for yourself. Oh yes. I was this close to

775
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: going on the group chat and calling her out for

776
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: the bigot she was in front of everyone, but my

777
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: husband stopped me, so I decided to spare the drama

778
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: and DM her. I told her that was an fed

779
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: up joke, especially considering she knows that both of my

780
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: parents are immigrants, in which my mom had to flee

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00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: her own country. She immediately started apologizing and saying she

782
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: didn't know, which I found hard to believe. We've known

783
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: each other for a year and we've discussed this before,

784
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: so she's either stupid or lying. She immediately deleted the

785
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: meme off of the chat, along with the gift of

786
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: her giggling about it as a response to my mother

787
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: in law reaction with the shocked face approching.

788
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: This group chat is cursed ull Lee.

789
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: This morning, she sent me a long paragraph about how

790
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: she is upset, that she upset me and that she

791
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: loves me and that I'm like a sister to her.

792
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: I appreciate her apologizing it all, but it really gives

793
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: me the ick to associate with anyone who thinks it's

794
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: funny about wishing death upon a certain type of people.

795
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: Is she that closed minded? Or is she that desperate

796
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: for attention that she's trying to get it in the

797
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: wrong way. I completely understand that she doesn't come from

798
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: the same background as me or have the opportunities to

799
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: travel like I did. Therefore, it's natural to be ignorant.

800
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: And I don't want to have a fallout with Matt.

801
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: And this has nothing to do with politics or anything

802
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: like that. It is just a cruol thing to say.

803
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 1: And there is such a thing as a bad joke.

804
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: So would I be the a hole if I flat

805
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: out call her out for being discriminatory slash a bigot

806
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: the next time I see her and distance myself from her,

807
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: Or should I just accept her.

808
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 2: Apology and drop it. I guess it's like, do you

809
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: want peace? Do you want justice? Or do you want education?

810
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: Right?

811
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 2: Like, it's like it depends on what you want, And

812
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: because you're the one affected by it, I think you

813
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: can choose what you want.

814
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: Right ten trillion percent. If you want peace, then I

815
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: probably just ignore in distance. Yeah, if you think she

816
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: can re enter your life because she's in your family,

817
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: you might want a little one two combo of admonishment

818
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: and education. But I mean I think you could. I

819
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: think you could just create distance and that would be

820
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: okay too. Yeah, Like she was like, oh, I appreciated

821
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: her apology, but I just like don't want to be

822
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: around her. Yes, one thousand percent, and I think it's

823
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: a very fair thing. I like, yes, I appreciate that

824
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: you acknowledge what you did was wrong, but that doesn't

825
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: mean that I'm now just going to be like hanging

826
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: around you all the time and still potentially subject myself

827
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: to that.

828
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,959
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, but no no no, no, no no no no.

829
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Speaker 1: We have an update. We have an update, ladies and gentlemen.

830
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: So last I left it, I said that Vicky sent

831
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: a long paragraph with a dramatic apology saying that I

832
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: am like a sister to her. But for reading a

833
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: few comments, I realized a few points. First Off, how

834
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 1: can she consider me like a sister when she clearly

835
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: doesn't know me and never even cared to know. Secondly,

836
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: Vicky is only apologizing because she got called out, not

837
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: because she realizes that the meme she sent was out

838
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: of line. I could probably forgive her if this was

839
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: an isolated incident, but it wasn't. As I mentioned, she

840
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: made discriminatory comments twice before but never got called out

841
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: for it, and now that she has, she's all of

842
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: a sudden apologetic. No one had ever said anything. I

843
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 1: guarantee she would still think these kinds of jokes are okay.

844
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: I ignored her apology at first, but when Sunday came

845
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: around and she and Matt were planning to come out

846
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: for the family dinner, she texted me again asking if

847
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 1: quote unquote, we are okay. The only reply I could

848
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: give her was I accept her apology. Let's put it

849
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: that way. So it didn't take long for her to

850
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: cry too mad about it, like the brother in law

851
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: basically who then called his mother to complain about how

852
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: mean I was being and how they are scared to

853
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: come to dinner for fear of what I might say

854
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: or stir up a bad atmosphere.

855
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 2: Vanishing the wrong person. Matt, that is punishing the wrong person.

856
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 2: How about the person that's saying stuff?

857
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: Dude?

858
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 2: Point blank?

859
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: She's literally like saying, you know, that's her family.

860
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that was in that And basically so it's like, hey,

861
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 2: I hope everyone that looks like you just like on

862
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: a lives himself. And then uh and then being like

863
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: there that person be like hey, why, like that's like

864
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 2: really fed up that you said that. You shouldn't say that,

865
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 2: and then be like, hey, hey, don't overreact. You should

866
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 2: you get out of this party? Don't.

867
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're gonna say. We're gonna do.

868
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: How about you? All I said was I accept your apology. Yeah,

869
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: that's literally all she said. So I told my husband

870
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: to try and explain to his mother that I am

871
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: not one to cause a scene, especially in her house,

872
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: which they were so gracious to let us stay in

873
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: while we were moving houses. I have accepted Vicky's apology

874
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: and will be civil. This means that if she wants

875
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: to speak to me, I will listen in answer, but

876
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: I will not go out of my way to speak

877
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: to her. My husband and I were out for a

878
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: bit seeing a friend before we had our family dinner.

879
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: When we came back, there was Matt and Vicky sitting

880
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: on the couch. The moment I walked in, Matt had

881
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: this uncomfortable smirk on his face. It was the kind

882
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: of smirk you make when someone you hate walks into

883
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: the room and makes eye contact with you, and you

884
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: have to be nice about it. Vicky gave me a

885
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: hi and the voice of a mouse and immediately started

886
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 1: having a staring contest with the floor, which was fine

887
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: considering I made zero eye contact with her throughout the

888
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: whole evening. When we were at the table, I was

889
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 1: chatty and made it seem like I was unbothered, while

890
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: Vicky was across the table acting all quiet and sad,

891
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: making the situation awkward. Eventually, she texted Matt under the

892
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: table saying that she wanted to leave once dinner was finished.

893
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: Mom and Dad knew the reason why Vicky and Matt

894
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: left so quickly, and they became upset. They had to

895
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: go at my husband about why I can't let it

896
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: go and how I was the one who made Vicky

897
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: uncomfortable with the way I did not speak, let alone

898
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: look at her once the entire time. Let me just

899
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: break this down real quick. Accepts her apology, but it's

900
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: just not going out of her way to be buddy

901
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: buddy with her. Matt and Vicky show up. They're not interacting,

902
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: They're being avoided. They're not talking with her. Opie's still chatting, interacting,

903
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: you know, not not making a point to interact with

904
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: her because she had that meme of a shark eating

905
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: what would be her literally her whole family. And then

906
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: the parents say, why is she making a situation and

907
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: making everyone uncomfortable?

908
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: Again't blameing the wrong person.

909
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: OPI is doing nothing. It is literally all Vicky. It

910
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: is literally Vicky. We called it, We freaking called it.

911
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: So I defended myself to my husband, saying that she

912
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: and Matt were the ones who made it awkward from

913
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: the second I walked into the room, not to mention.

914
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: If Vicky truly wanted to square things away, she should

915
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: have pulled me aside to talk instead of thinking that

916
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: things were going to be easily settled through a text message.

917
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: By the way, you can't listen to full episodes with

918
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 1: stories just like this. Go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, your

919
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: favorite podcast app search. Okay, story time and we have

920
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: a little bit left the story were diving right? Oh

921
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: do it? I always found it to be the type

922
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: who constantly plays the victim, but now I feel like

923
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: she's trying to rope the family into thinking that I

924
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: am the A hole just because I refuse to let

925
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: a stupid joke quote unquote that was a mistake quote

926
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: unquote to post slide and play nice for the sake

927
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: of the family.

928
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 2: The thing is this was like, it wasn't just one joke.

929
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 2: It was the constant barrage of this kind of humor.

930
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do as everyone in the

931
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: family is thinking that it's up to me to fix this,

932
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: even though I wasn't the one that stupidly posted a crappy,

933
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: stupid joke on the family group chat just to close

934
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 1: things out. This is not Op's responsibility and the OP

935
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: is not the a hole in the slightest. The family

936
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: is pinning all of this on OP, and that is

937
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: exactly not what it should be and is a men

938
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: says it wasn't a stupid joke. This is true feelings

939
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: being expressed yeah by VICKI, and that is why.

940
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 2: Hopefully it leads to some education or at least some distance.

941
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: Absolutely, my sister in law made a secret plan to

942
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: steal my wedding secret sister see so worse. This is

943
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: so true. I thirty female have been with my husband

944
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 1: thirty six male we'll call him Jared, for fourteen years,

945
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: married for ten that's some time. Our tenure wedding anniversary

946
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: was in September of last year, but in January of

947
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four we decided to renew our vows since

948
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: we didn't get to have a big wedding. By the way,

949
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: this comes from no Per Simmon three five to four,

950
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: and if you want to submit your own stories, go

951
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: to the our slash to Okay storytime subreddits. So Jared

952
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: and I got married pretty quickly because I was going

953
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: through court to get my ex's paternal rights terminated. It

954
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: took three years to finalize because, as we all know,

955
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: courts be taken forever. But the reason I was terminating

956
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: his paternal rights, well, i'll leave that up for your imagination.

957
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: Courts don't just terminate parental rights unless there's a legitimate

958
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: reason for the best interest of the child, so we

959
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 1: can guess it was nothing good. So anyways, my husband

960
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: has been in my son's life since my son was

961
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: two weeks old, so he's been there since day one.

962
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: After the court was done, Jared asked what the process

963
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: would be to adopt my son.

964
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 2: Norable.

965
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: The court said that we had to be married for

966
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: two years before we could even start the adoption process.

967
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: So my husband went out, got a ring and still

968
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: got down on one knee to ask me to marry him.

969
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 1: And that is adorable. I love it. Then he whisked

970
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: me away to get married with my mom and his

971
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: mom as a witness. He didn't want to make the

972
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: process any longer than it needed to be. I loved

973
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: Jared for that, and at the time, our daughter we

974
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: share it together, was one, my son was four. Now

975
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: back to the story. I am a Halloween freak. Anything

976
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 1: and everything Halloween is my absolute spirit animal. So Jared

977
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: told me that we are going to renew our vours

978
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: on October thirty first of twenty twenty four, and I

979
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: couldn't have been more excited. This man, Jared's a real one.

980
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: He knows what you want, bro, He's a real one.

981
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: I started making phone calls to family members, friends and

982
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: everyone in between. My mother in law, Mary is a

983
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: big help with our family. I'm closer to her than

984
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: to my own mother, so it wasn't a hard decision

985
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: to ask if she could help. I started ordering my dress,

986
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: which of course was black, you can't have a Halloween

987
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: wedding in white. That's so emo. I fire fire. Besides,

988
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: my favorite color is black. I put the down payment

989
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: on the venue vendors catering. Of course, our food was

990
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: going to be Halloween themes. We were having chicken, pork,

991
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: or steak, all put out on plates decorated to look

992
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,439
Speaker 1: like some sort of ghost, monster, mummy, etc. That's so cute, dude,

993
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: this is great. I'm here for this. It was decorated

994
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: with Nightmare before Christmas with Jack and Sally at the altar. Dude,

995
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: how does this keep getting better? I love the I

996
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: don't understand that just keeps getting gay. No, this is

997
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: like probably her favorite story. Oh dude, yeah, this is

998
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: this is great. I was just absolutely loving every minute

999
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: of it. So here's where we get to my future

1000
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: sister in law, Amy wanting to get married on the

1001
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: same day. Booooo literally stern literally in figuratively boo. Yeah.

1002
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 1: She started telling Mary that she wanted to get married

1003
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: to Jared's brother Justin on Halloween as well, but she

1004
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: just hadn't told anyone yet. She said she was upset

1005
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: I stole her day. Like, what, so you're you're telling me? Oh,

1006
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: she stole your day. But you've not even announced, let

1007
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: alone done any of the bookings to get it. But

1008
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: Opie has already done all the bookings. Oh so she

1009
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: said she was upset I stole her day, Like what,

1010
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: you didn't tell anyone? So how was I supposed to

1011
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: even know? But even if Amy wanted to get married

1012
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: on Halloween, I still would have gotten married on Halloween

1013
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: as well, but I would have pushed it out until

1014
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: October thirty first, twenty twenty five, which that is already

1015
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: a huge I mean, you're gonna delay your wedding a

1016
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: year for someone else. I mean that is beyond kind.

1017
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: That's beyond kind already. I wouldn't have minded it, but

1018
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: I already put deposits down, so I can't just change

1019
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: the date on the venue, for one. Somebody has already

1020
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: booked it for our October thirty first, twenty twenty five,

1021
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to cancel and lose out on

1022
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: the deposit, of course, so I just apologized and told

1023
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: her that she could do it next Halloween at a

1024
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: different venue. She was not happy. She didn't like that

1025
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: she wanted to steal her wedding day. So I spoke

1026
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 1: to Mary about what to do. She said, there's nothing

1027
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: we can do since I announced it before Amy did that.

1028
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: We are doing it in a Halloween. If Amy had

1029
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: an issue with that, she should have brought it up

1030
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: when Jared and I told everyone. I would have been

1031
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: more than happy to wait a year. However, it is

1032
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: too late. Mary spoke to Amy about this without me

1033
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: asking her to. She was just trying to help, but

1034
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: this made things worse. I then started getting text messages

1035
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: from Amy saying that I was being unfair since I

1036
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: was already married and she wasn't yet, so I should

1037
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: just transfer everything over to her and she would pay

1038
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: me back. Amy is crazy. This is crazy Amy.

1039
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: She's I mean, she is crazy, but she probably has

1040
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 2: good taste because Opie got all of those sick ass

1041
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: wedding venues and she's like, I want that, transfer everything

1042
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 2: over to me.

1043
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: I mean Opie's wedding it's literally a nightmare before Christmas themed.

1044
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: It's a brilliant like.

1045
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: It's brilliant, and she wants it want She saw that

1046
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 2: and was like, yes, please, yeah, just give me everything.

1047
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 2: She wasn't like no, she wasn't like two of those.

1048
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 2: She was like one of those yours mine.

1049
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, she said, When I was a little girl, I

1050
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: always dreamed of completely stealing everything about your wedding and

1051
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: making you move it to the next year.

1052
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, my god, what is what is marriage without a

1053
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 2: little conquering, you know?

1054
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: She also told me that I need to stop talking

1055
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: to Mary as much so she can get close with

1056
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: her too. I was baffled. Did she really just ask

1057
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: me to do those things? So I asked her, you

1058
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: want me to stop talking to Mary as much and

1059
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 1: give you everything I was planning for my wedding. Amy

1060
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: said yes. I declined, well, at.

1061
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 2: Least she's straightforward, at.

1062
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: Least she's honest. I told Amy it's a fourteen year

1063
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: friendship that I've gained with Mary and I was not

1064
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: changing that for her. I also said no to transferring

1065
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: everything from the wedding over to her. Amy then suggested

1066
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: we both get married at the same time, since it

1067
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: was already ready to go ooo married at the same time.

1068
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 2: I was just cross effective a only it only makes sense.

1069
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: I So I told Amy that she is not going

1070
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 1: to get married at the same time and same place

1071
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: in front of my family that she's never met. She

1072
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: just said that she will just invite some of her

1073
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 1: family as well, so it would make it less awkward,

1074
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: I again declined. Amy took it well, or.

1075
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: So I thought, or so I thought she should take it.

1076
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 2: While she's asking for ridiculousness.

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00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: Dude, I didn't hear any more about it for months.

1078
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: If only I knew what she had planned. The day

1079
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: of my wedding, everything was great. Things were going down

1080
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: without a hitch. Bridesmaids were getting ready. It was just

1081
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: so beautiful. And Justin came to knock on my bridal

1082
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: door to thank me, thank me for what he said

1083
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: that Amy told him not to say anything, but that

1084
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: her and I were planning to surprise Jared and his

1085
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 1: brother will be getting married the same day, the same time,

1086
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: and it would be special.

1087
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 2: I feel like this is a special situation for sure.

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00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 1: I told him absolutely not. Absolutely, you would tell him John,

1089
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: absolutely not. I told him everything. Justin was embarrassed and apologized.

1090
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 1: He said some of her family were already showing up

1091
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: to the wedding. H so she invited other people to wedding.

1092
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: It's just so bad. It's just so bad. I hadn't

1093
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 1: put in my budget for this many more mouths to feed.

1094
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: I was freaking out. But then I had the best idea,

1095
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 1: ooh wow, where's this sudden inspiration coming from?

1096
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: Hit me with it? Because I do not see you,

1097
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 2: I don't do not know where this is going.

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00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: I called Amy to my bridal room, told her how

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00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: sorry I was, and I was being super unfair lock in.

1100
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: I told her I spoke to the venue and they

1101
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: agreed to do a double wedding, but it would have

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00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: to wait until after my wedding and reception. I said

1103
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: to inform her family to leave until then. Okay, basically,

1104
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: let's get her out of the way from the duration

1105
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: of my wedding, then we can deal with whatever happens.

1106
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 1: Probably the venue is like, hey, we're closed, so again,

1107
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: you didn't pay for anything, so get on out of here.

1108
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 2: Honestly, kind of kind of smart.

1109
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah. It's like, uh, what is it like? Uh?

1110
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: You can you can fight fight with war, but it's

1111
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: fight with honey. I think that that's not it. I'm

1112
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: mixing parables, uh w war with Uh?

1113
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: I think pleasure? Is it?

1114
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: Is?

1115
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 2: It?

1116
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 3: Is it?

1117
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: Uh?

1118
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 2: You can catch a lot of flies with honey, but

1119
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: you catch more honeys being fly.

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00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: It's the it's the war one. I'm sorry, guys, I'm

1121
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: mixing up all my analogies. But Amy was so excited.

1122
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: I then went to the venue explained what was about

1123
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: to happen, but they told me not to worry, as

1124
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 1: this isn't the first time something like this has happened. God,

1125
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: I can only imagine they will have the doors locked

1126
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: and no one will let her in when she arrives.

1127
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: Plus Justin already knew. Uh, this is what I told Amy.

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00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: He agreed to tell Amy that they won't not be

1129
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: getting married on that day at that venue before chaos

1130
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: comes down like the wrath. I did feel bad for

1131
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: her family, but they all live in the same state

1132
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: as so Thankfully they didn't spend a fortune to get

1133
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: out to the venue. They all just went out, eate

1134
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: dinner and enjoyed themselves. Nothing crazy. They weren't even mad

1135
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: at me at the end. They were mad at Amy

1136
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: for deceiving them, as they should be. By the way,

1137
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: you can listen to full episodes with stories just like this.

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Speaker 1: Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, your favorite podcast app

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Speaker 1: and search. Okay, story Time, don't listen to our whole catalog,

1140
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: but I'm going to get into the finale of this story. Anyways,

1141
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: I had the most amazing wedding. We drink, we enjoyed ourselves,

1142
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: dance eight and Jared and I we were so happy.

1143
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: The next day I got a bunch of text messages

1144
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: from Amy apologizing to me about how she acted. Amy,

1145
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: I already know Justin told her to make things right

1146
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: or he wasn't going to marry her. Oh yeah, because

1147
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: he tricked. She tricks Justin as well, So that's that's

1148
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: the whole thing there too. So I don't want them

1149
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: to split the couple. Amy and Justin they have a

1150
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: child together. And other than that, I didn't have huge

1151
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: issues with her. I mean, I wasn't friends with her,

1152
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: but I didn't hate her either. I now know they

1153
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: have a venue somewhere else, and they are getting married

1154
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: this next Halloween. And we've got some relevant comments and

1155
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: a hunky shoulder comment number one. Next Halloween, be sure

1156
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 1: to thank her for allowing you to have an anniversary

1157
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: party at her wedding. That is fire. She'll be fine

1158
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 1: with her, right, She's just not gonna have double standards, right.

1159
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: Commentare number two says, Well, the biggest lesson from this

1160
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: is that Amy is untrustworthy and also jealous of your

1161
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: relationship with your mother in law. Maeric, keep an eye

1162
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: on her so she doesn't try to cause a rift

1163
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: between you and mother in law. You know she's sneaky.

1164
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: Comentre number three says, what is scary is that the

1165
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: venue has had this happen before one hundred percent, and

1166
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,720
Speaker 1: that is the end of that swisted tail. Ladies and gentlemen,

1167
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: Hey it's Sam. We'll get back to the stories. But

1168
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,000
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1169
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Speaker 1: in law is overstaying as welcome. It ruined my marriage.

1170
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Speaker 1: Check him out.

1171
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 2: So first post mare with me. About a year ago,

1172
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Speaker 2: my twenty eight female and my husband thirty mail allowed

1173
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 2: my brother in law nineteen male to move in with

1174
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 2: us to get him out of a rough situation and

1175
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 2: help him start adulting. This was about May last year.

1176
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 2: I agreed to have him move in with the promise

1177
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 2: from brother in law and husband that it was only

1178
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 2: going to be a couple of months until brother in

1179
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 2: law found a roommate to move out with. But I

1180
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 2: see us in the chat, it's not going to be

1181
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 2: a couple months rowing in there. No, no, no, By

1182
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Speaker 2: the way, this comes from cold bowl of nothing. If

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1184
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Speaker 2: okay storytime stebroute it. So he is also to pay

1185
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: some rent monthly as he has a full time job

1186
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: now keep his area clean and keep up around the house.

1187
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 2: Keep in mind I have two children under the age

1188
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: of five and also work and I'm still the housekeeper, cleaning,

1189
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 2: cooking food, et cetera, while my husband all still works

1190
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 2: sixty hours a week. Fast forward those couple months, no

1191
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 2: luck on finding a roommate. Brother in law still living

1192
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: with us. Okay, he's young. I'm just gonna give him

1193
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 2: some more time to figure this out. I'm trying to

1194
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 2: be understanding and gracious as I also had some help

1195
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 2: getting on my feet at this age, and I've confronted

1196
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 2: brother in law a few times asking, ugh, so I

1197
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 2: was a roommate search, going yeah, you found an apartment

1198
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 2: yet only to be answered with shrugs like I don't know,

1199
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 2: I don't know. I will say at this point, I'm

1200
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 2: starting to feel in the dark with what is actually

1201
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 2: going on, as in, is there even a plan of

1202
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 2: him moving out? Maybe I think you should sit him

1203
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 2: down and say, present me with a plan. If you

1204
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: want to keep living here. I want to see your

1205
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 2: plan about You're got to not be living here, yes,

1206
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 2: because right now it seems like your plan is to

1207
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 2: keep living here, which was not my plan when you

1208
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 2: said your plan was to move out. Not the plan.

1209
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 2: Not the plan, Not the plan. Is he even looking

1210
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 2: for a roommate or an apartment? Husband says, just give

1211
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 2: him more time that he's working on it. Frustrated, it's

1212
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 2: Christmas time now, and he's requested to have his girlfriend

1213
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 2: of two years, who lives out of state, to move

1214
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: in too, with the promise that she has a job

1215
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 2: and they will move out in one month.

1216
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: No no, no no no no no no no no.

1217
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: If you can move out in one month, do that,

1218
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: Just do it. Do that and live with your girlfriends.

1219
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 3: Just do it.

1220
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 2: She's a plan, Come now, you can afford it. I

1221
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 2: tell my husband that I'm not comfortable with it, as

1222
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 2: brother in law was not supposed to be here at

1223
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 2: this time in the first place. Husband says, I'm overreacting

1224
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 2: and starts making comments of making me sound like I

1225
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 2: don't care about his family. It's not it's that I

1226
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 2: care about people. Tell him the truth. Yeah, I'm not lying.

1227
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 2: Till my face directly into my eyes and saying I'm

1228
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: moving out while you're just moving in. You're moving more

1229
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 2: people in fact.

1230
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: So to complete disregard of Op's wants, you know, for what,

1231
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 1: this is her house too, a.

1232
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 2: Pattern of disrespect. Angry, I just shut down and keep

1233
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 2: my mouth shut to avoid the arguments. My next mistake.

1234
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 2: Girlfriend moves in. Oh no, what how did this happen?

1235
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 2: Hugg and surprise, surprise doesn't have a job, claim she's

1236
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 2: been looking for one. To be fair, it's hard finding

1237
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 2: a job as a young person these days, not as

1238
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 2: easy as it was. So, you know, some sympathy goes

1239
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 2: out to those to finding a job. I'm sure some

1240
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 2: of you might know. It's hard. It's hard finding a job,

1241
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 2: especially as again, like you know, the latter's being cut

1242
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 2: off at the bottom. You need like thirty years of

1243
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 2: experience to the weight tables at Red Lobster. These days,

1244
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: it's like it's like it's insane, but not in my house.

1245
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: Out of my house. You're not doing that in my house.

1246
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: You're not here, not today, not tomorrow, not forever.

1247
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Sign up for the army. They'll

1248
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 2: take anyone and she's been looking for three months now

1249
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 2: since living under my roof. Fast forward to now rent

1250
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 2: is not being paid anymore, the cleaning of their own

1251
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 2: areas have stopped. Oh no, it's full anarchy mutiny, and

1252
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 2: there's been absolutely no trying to find a way to

1253
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 2: move out of my home. I've quit asking brother in

1254
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 2: law questions to keep myself from being furious, and directed

1255
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 2: the questions towards my husband. At this point, I'm done

1256
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 2: trusting that my husband has any plan or control in

1257
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 2: this whole situation, which is driving me insane. Yeah, anytime

1258
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 2: I bring it up to my husband, I met with

1259
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 2: hostility and accusations of just wanting to throw his family

1260
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 2: out on the street. It's been so many more months

1261
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 2: than we've said, dude, so many more, And I shouldn't

1262
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,760
Speaker 2: be upset with this because I agreed to it, agreed

1263
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 2: to what we agree.

1264
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: It's like she agreed to originally letting the brother in

1265
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,959
Speaker 1: law in, and then I guess was somehow commersed into

1266
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: letting the girlfriend move.

1267
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 2: It's like your friend like, hey, dude, can you spot

1268
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 2: me five bucks? And then you're like, yeah, sure, And

1269
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 2: then you find your bank account cleared and you're like

1270
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 2: what the heck we're still my money? Is like, oh no,

1271
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 2: I took it, and You're like, you said you only

1272
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 2: wanted five bucks. I'm like, oh, well, you said I

1273
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 2: can have your money. I know I said you can

1274
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 2: have five bucks, not not the whole bank account. This

1275
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 2: is this is that, this is that.

1276
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: Come on, ladies and gentlemen.

1277
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 2: Read do what. Yes, I agreed to brother in law

1278
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 2: moving in for a couple months. Yes, I graciously gave

1279
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 2: him extra time to figure things out. At this point,

1280
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 2: I no longer feel comfortable in my own home, and

1281
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,959
Speaker 2: every day me and my husband argue about it, which

1282
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,720
Speaker 2: always turns into very ugly outcome. We don't even sleep

1283
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 2: in the same bed anymore. Brother in law sleep in

1284
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 2: that bed. Nopp. I'm annoyed that I've been conned into

1285
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 2: taking on two grown adults while trying to raise my

1286
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 2: own family. I am angry, and I'm being made out

1287
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 2: to be the bad guy when all I wanted to

1288
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 2: do was be helpful. I don't know what to do anymore.

1289
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 2: I guess my main question to the rerdit world is

1290
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 2: am I the a hole because I let all this

1291
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 2: happen in the first place?

1292
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: No, Nope, you are not the a hole. Your husband

1293
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: kind of is an a hole. The brother in law

1294
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: and the girlfriend are definitely a holes. You are a

1295
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: victim of circumstance. Ope, and I am sorry. What is

1296
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: ultimately this is like super on husband, super on husband,

1297
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: because I mean it's his it's his uh, it's his brother,

1298
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: it's his brother. He was the one that kind of

1299
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: like allowed it to happen. This is not an excuse

1300
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: at all in the slightest cousin the brother in law,

1301
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: he is nineteen, so he is young. He's not an

1302
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: excuse to do what he's doing. But it's it's ultimately

1303
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: on the husband to now fix the problem because he

1304
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: started it.

1305
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, agreed, agreed. If there's not communication that happens soon,

1306
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: I feel like we're we're a little doomed.

1307
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: I would say so little and honestly, if husband continues

1308
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:08,919
Speaker 1: to act like this, may be doomed for the better.

1309
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 2: Top comments. It is your faults what you allow yourself

1310
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 2: to get into the situation because you have no spye,

1311
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 2: no backbone, and you're allowing yourself to be treated like

1312
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 2: a welcome mat. You need an adult meeting with the

1313
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 2: four of you. You need a timeline of when these

1314
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 2: adults are leaving your home. If your husband doesn't support this,

1315
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 2: you need a timeline of when you're removing yourself and

1316
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 2: your children from this environment. You need to follow through.

1317
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 2: You're not the a hole, though this is like a

1318
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 2: hole to self, but okay, Op responds, thank you for

1319
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 2: your honesty. I do feel it's my fault for allowing

1320
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 2: it to go this far without any real action on

1321
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 2: my part. I guess this is a learning opportunity for

1322
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 2: me to not internalize my feelings until it's too late.

1323
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 2: Commed To two says, not the a hole. That sounds

1324
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 2: like a terrible situation. Something you may not have considered

1325
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 2: is if a girlfriend and brother in law go the

1326
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 2: legal route because they have been there that long, they

1327
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 2: could actually fight being evicted. All right, your husband is

1328
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 2: the a hole in this case. I M he has

1329
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 2: to clean up their area, make their dinner, et cetera.

1330
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 2: Any food they eat should come out of his spending money.

1331
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 2: In comforter three, you have a husband problem, Get into

1332
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 2: marriage counseling, find alternative housing for you and the kid now.

1333
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 2: If counseling doesn't work, take your kids and visit family

1334
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 2: or friends for a couple of weeks and let him

1335
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 2: sort it out with his brother and then tell him

1336
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 2: the condition that you will return home is when they

1337
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 2: are gone, or you won't return and you can divorce.

1338
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 2: And another commoner says, not the ale you effectively or

1339
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 2: a doormat for your scheming, conniving husband. Either take the

1340
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 2: kids and split or throw your husband free loaders out.

1341
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 2: If you don't, you'll be in the exact same position

1342
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 2: ten years from now. There's an update the next day,

1343
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 2: wow Oba, the next day.

1344
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: This went from kind of zero to a thousand. If

1345
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: I yeah, do say so?

1346
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I feel I mean, obviously these comments

1347
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 2: are being harsh. I do feel it is a little

1348
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 2: bit on the husband to help, but at a certain

1349
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 2: point ops to take it in their own hands and

1350
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 2: be like, hey, I'm not going to accept this anymore.

1351
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 2: Even if the husband doesn't help, I like, I'm going

1352
00:59:59,120 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 2: to depth it is.

1353
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could say it's like it's like the husband's faults. Maybe,

1354
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 1: but ultimately Opie has the responsibility or the ability.

1355
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 2: Responsibility to yourself and her kids is yourself. Yeah, but

1356
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 2: we got an update the next day. First, I would

1357
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 2: like to say thank you all for the different perspectives.

1358
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 2: Most of all the responses said I should just hunt

1359
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 2: all three of them outains say good riddance. I will

1360
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 2: say some of the responses gave me a good little

1361
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 2: laugh in this extremely frustrating situation, so thank you for

1362
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 2: that too. Taking everything into consideration, I gave my husband

1363
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 2: an ultimatum last night and I'm sticking to it. They

1364
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 2: need to be gone by June first, with all rent

1365
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 2: paid according to how I had laid it out, or

1366
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 2: else I'm moving out with the kids into an apartment.

1367
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 2: I'm also not cooking for them, just enough for me

1368
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 2: and the kids. All laundry detergents, toilet trees will be

1369
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 2: kept in my closet, and internet passwords will be changed.

1370
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 2: Now before I get two months is too much time

1371
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 2: for them to hear me out. I think a few

1372
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 2: months is a good amount of time. This is also

1373
01:00:58,320 --> 01:00:59,959
Speaker 2: time for me to get my ducks in a rosa.

1374
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 2: I actually be moving out, which in theory i'll know

1375
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 2: by mid May. If they aren't moving out, if they

1376
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 2: don't have anything lined up by them, I really do

1377
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 2: doubt my husband is wanting this to actually happen, me

1378
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 2: and the kids moving out, But I wouldn't put it

1379
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 2: past him thinking that I'm bluffing. All in all, I

1380
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 2: would hope it doesn't have to come to that point.

1381
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 2: I'm happy to learn, though, after sketching a quick budget,

1382
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 2: that I would be able to sort beat me and

1383
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 2: both my children with my own income if worse came

1384
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 2: to worse. Thanks again, we have some relevant comments, We

1385
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 2: got some updates. But what do we think about this?

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01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: I think that opis making a smart decision. I think

1387
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: that OP is like, you know, figuring out, okay, can

1388
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: we am I able to financially support my family, basically

1389
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: being like, hey, guys, you can't just like reload and

1390
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: essentially face no consequences. Yeah. I like this plan. Also

1391
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: knowing that squatter's rights might be a thing, It's like, hey,

1392
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: let me just make it like not easy and ideal

1393
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: to just stay here and can continue mooching.

1394
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then you know you want to give like

1395
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 2: young kids, especially family time to get on their feet,

1396
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 2: but too much time can caddle someone into never gaining

1397
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 2: uh the skill of independence. Yeah, and I think we're

1398
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 2: getting I think we're doing a disservice. No, not only

1399
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 2: to yourself and your family, but to these kids like

1400
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 2: they're they're just they're just suckling on the teet, never

1401
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 2: knowing how to defend for themselves.

1402
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I will say it really does

1403
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 1: suck for OP because it's like, you know what you're saying.

1404
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: You want to give them a chance to be able

1405
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:22,919
Speaker 1: to like learn and figure it out. They're nineteen, they're

1406
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: just starting life. Unfortunately, OPI has to you know, deal

1407
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: with this sixty more days, which is not fun at all.

1408
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: But it at least kind of like hits that equilibritym

1409
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 1: where it's like, okay, there there is an end in sight.

1410
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: Yeah for OP.

1411
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 2: But we have some relevant comments.

1412
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: Let's get into it.

1413
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 2: What did Op's husband say after she told him? Ope

1414
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 2: responds he was surprisingly not as hostile as he usually

1415
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 2: has been. I say not as because there was no

1416
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 2: yelling or swearing. He pretty much said I was overreacting

1417
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 2: and crazy to think that would need to happen in

1418
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 2: the first place, since they'll be out by them if

1419
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 2: you could see my irol right now shaking my head.

1420
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 2: And another Competa says, yeah, he doesn't believe you have

1421
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 2: any intention of actually leaving. I will let him know

1422
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 2: if you leave, there will be no reconciling, and you

1423
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 2: will divorce and demand the house to be sold, so

1424
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 2: one way or another, they will be moving out. I

1425
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 2: feel like that maybe is a little bit too vindictive. Hope,

1426
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 2: he responds. I do see what you're saying, because I

1427
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 2: thought about how to go about selling the house. If

1428
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 2: I leave, I will be honest and say that at

1429
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 2: this exact moment, I'm not looking for divorce. I'm willing

1430
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 2: to give him the opportunity to at least salvage the

1431
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 2: mess he created. I think that's a good move. Unfortunately,

1432
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 2: it might just take me a stepping out to realize

1433
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 2: where he messed up. On the other hand, if it

1434
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 2: does turn to divorce, at least already have me and

1435
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 2: the kids established in a new place. And another commenter says,

1436
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 2: based on how your husband has dealt with the situation,

1437
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 2: I hope he is not calling your bluff, but be

1438
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 2: ready good luck, and College to three says, I think

1439
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,439
Speaker 2: your husband thinks you're bluffing, And I'll try and can

1440
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 2: you again. You might say they'll move out, and then

1441
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 2: guilt you for another two months, and then sometime in

1442
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 2: May I'll tell you that they need just a little

1443
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 2: more time. Be prepared for more bargaining and guilt tripping.

1444
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 2: Do not negotiate with them. I wish you luck. I

1445
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 2: hope your husband chooses well. Not the A hole. Finally,

1446
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 2: not the A hole or the update. I suggest two

1447
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 2: other things to help motivate your husband and show him

1448
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 2: how serious you are. Get an attorney to prepare a

1449
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 2: legal separation document. And this document make sure you have

1450
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 2: sole discretion for making moves for your new children, and

1451
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 2: moving out is not just living in an apartment. It also

1452
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 2: means you have to be responsible in case your kids

1453
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 2: are sick. Second thing is to prepare demand letter for

1454
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 2: the background. Both these documents are intended to show your

1455
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 2: husband that his lack of action is the reason your

1456
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 2: marriage is failing. He needs to understand how serious this is,

1457
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 2: and it is not an empty threat. You're already sleeping

1458
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 2: in separate rooms. I can't imagine how dumb he is

1459
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 2: and why he's not treating you. Slash your children as

1460
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 2: more important than his brother and girlfriend. Really, his priorities

1461
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 2: are all screwed up. Good luck and another edit, do

1462
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 2: this now, don't wait until June. The objective is to

1463
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 2: avoid moving out, so this will motivate your husband meanwhile,

1464
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 2: keep looking for a new apartment just in case. And

1465
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 2: actually that is the end of this story. I do

1466
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 2: think it is important to communicate that OP is serious. Yeah,

1467
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 2: I don't think it is necessarily a good idea to

1468
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 2: go straight to divorce. I think you move out and then, yeah,

1469
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 2: that's a big step back. Obviously you can continue taking

1470
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 2: steps back if things aren't moving in the direction that

1471
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 2: you need. But yeah, just it just feels like there's

1472
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 2: been no movement in the husband to help zero.

1473
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 1: Yeah it's zero. I like the general idea of like

1474
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: finding something like I don't know, a lease agreement that

1475
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: or like oh I've been accepted apartment application something like that,

1476
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 1: to at least hopefully get it through to him that like, hey,

1477
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: I am not enjoying this. I am serious about like

1478
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: wanting to do these things. Here is the warning. Yeah,

1479
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: as clear as it can be. So but yeah, bro,

1480
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 1: Bro's just not getting it.