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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to another episode of the Blackout Tips podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Rod. Join us always by my co

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Speaker 3: We're ready to Yes, Sam really not anything else. Well,

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Speaker 2: We are already do some podcasts and find us everywhere

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Speaker 2: Lots of stuff to talk about because this episode is

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Speaker 2: all about the things that you guys said. It's the

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Speaker 2: what we're gonna get into this this episode. We had

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Speaker 2: And before I even play that music for the shout outs,

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Speaker 2: That's right, new handouts, new shout outs, Let's talk about it.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate everybody took the time out to throw a

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Speaker 2: As always, I always forget which which ones I already?

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Speaker 2: I was Kendrick kinda, I'd totally be willing to wait

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Speaker 3: He don't want to come back as soon as y possible.

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Speaker 2: the comments on YouTube for this one. Three comments truth words,

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Speaker 2: Aubrey because I had said he must be the one

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Speaker 2: poe was for this episode. It was shit, Kendrick, drop

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Speaker 2: any more tracks on Drake? Sixty six percent of my

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Speaker 1: I am of the.

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Speaker 2: As time has passed, I am completely satisfied if he

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Speaker 3: But it's a summer hit.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it's a smash hit forever. And I don't know,

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Speaker 1: You can't get four books.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what to tell you, you know, like,

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Speaker 1: You know you ain't you ain't getting them, so uh yeah,

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Speaker 2: And for the Q and A, it was Thank you

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Speaker 2: for all the feedback. Kisher says, you are welcome. You

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Speaker 2: Phillip says, thanks for the pose. Y'all all the best.

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Speaker 2: Now shut y'all that nice asses up and make some

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Speaker 2: pause niggas. Jane says, you're welcome.

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Speaker 1: You the good work.

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Speaker 2: Raphael says if I was in charge of the awards,

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Speaker 2: Like every podcast award that emails us is like, hey,

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Speaker 3: oh no, like a lot of and and not not

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Speaker 3: in a bad way, but most of them are like

441
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Speaker 3: network driven and have like big people behind them and

442
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 3: they're literally everywhere, so you know, it's like, Okay, why

443
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:54,400
Speaker 3: am I wasting my time?

444
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 1: What would be nice? I think? I think?

445
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Speaker 2: And maybe someone else can do the re search and

446
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 2: let me know if I'm wrong, But my guess is

447
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 2: we are probably definitely we are definitely one of the

448
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 2: first black podcasts period period. That's not that part is

449
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 2: not up for debate. I would gather. I would guess

450
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,239
Speaker 2: we are probably also the longest running black podcasts at

451
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 2: this point. And so it's the kind of thing where

452
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,360
Speaker 2: if we're ever gonna get recognized for an award, it's

453
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 2: probably gonna have to be somebody that really gives a

454
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 2: fuck about podcasting and blackness and and really is willing

455
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Speaker 2: to do the research.

456
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Speaker 1: And maybe, look, maybe I'm wrong, Maybe.

457
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Speaker 2: There's someone else that's out there before us and more

458
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 2: long running than our find and that's how we find

459
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 2: out is Oh that's how they got the award, right,

460
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, but I'm just saying it's kind of interesting, like, uh,

461
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 2: we're like, I don't know, I feel like at some

462
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 2: point we should be recognized on some list somewhere as

463
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Speaker 2: a staple of black podcast Now.

464
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: Look, maybe we didn't blow up enough. Maybe that's the issue.

465
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 2: It is, Like, well, yeah, such and such got way

466
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 2: more listeners than you, And if that's what it is,

467
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 2: is cool. But they ain't been doing it fifteen years.

468
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 2: They definitely ain't been doing it. It's consistent, they definitely

469
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 2: you know, So I just think you know, I don't

470
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 2: know it's interesting our place in podcasting because it's not

471
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 2: the kind of thing I think about a lot, or

472
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 2: get bitter about or anything. But it's the kind of

473
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Speaker 2: thing where I'm like, I'm not when they send me

474
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 2: these award things. I'm not giving you five hundred dollars

475
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Speaker 2: to tell me I'm a good podcast.

476
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

477
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Speaker 2: I'm sure it does something for people's egos and shit,

478
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 2: But honestly, at this point, either you recognize the work

479
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 2: we've done and you want to go put a trophy

480
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Speaker 2: on our man, or you don't.

481
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Speaker 1: I agreed, Like, what the fuck are we supposed to do?

482
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Speaker 2: Coach Malie Bailey says, thank you, Rydan Karen. Every year

483
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 2: gets better and better. Keep up the great work. And

484
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Speaker 2: I think Apple did something with my five star reviews

485
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 2: because I don't think y'all got them. I don't know

486
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 2: now if you do have certain cussing and words in them,

487
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Speaker 2: and if they're not, like you know.

488
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Speaker 3: And they don't tell you if it rejected it, Yeah.

489
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Speaker 1: Sometimes it could be that. I don't but I don't

490
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Speaker 1: know that's what you did.

491
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, I'm just thinking of something stuff that

492
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Speaker 2: people have told us all right, let's go to the

493
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Speaker 2: next episode, Episode two nine oh two. Mama on the

494
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Speaker 2: beat hope. Uh, this is fun I put when I

495
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Speaker 2: put out the YouTube video I left in when I

496
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Speaker 2: played they not like Us or not Like Us, and

497
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Speaker 2: we was all rapping along to it, and people love that.

498
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Speaker 2: And I also have cut a smaller clip of just

499
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Speaker 2: that part because people love those reaction videos. And I

500
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Speaker 2: think I uploaded to YouTube or something for y'all because

501
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Speaker 2: I know people enjoy that stuff.

502
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Speaker 1: All right. We had a lot of episodes.

503
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Speaker 2: I mean a lot of comments, fourteen comments for this episode,

504
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Speaker 2: and a lot of them on YouTube as well.

505
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Speaker 1: Tanya W.

506
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Speaker 2: Forty two says I missed the live show but caught

507
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Speaker 2: the video replay on crowdcast.

508
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Speaker 1: See and Ryd's mom jam to not Like Us with fire.

509
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Speaker 2: This is a longer comment from Alex uh so, Okay,

510
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Speaker 2: she said, call me Alexandria Pugh.

511
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Speaker 1: That's the name I use on social media, aka my

512
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Speaker 1: middle names.

513
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Speaker 3: Okay, the middle names.

514
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Speaker 2: She got a whole pen name and everything could have

515
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Speaker 2: said anonymous. She was like, nah, I'm a long time

516
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Speaker 2: listener for first time email. I apologized for this very

517
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 2: long email, but I wanted to talk about two things,

518
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Speaker 2: the TikTok teacher and your recent interaction with a listener.

519
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Speaker 2: In quotes, my college roommate now best friend has a

520
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Speaker 2: very gray area inappropriate relationship with her high school band

521
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Speaker 2: director or had had okay. She would mention things like

522
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Speaker 2: the band was really close to him and his wife

523
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Speaker 2: and how some kids would go over their house. My

524
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Speaker 2: brother was a drum major for his band for three years.

525
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Speaker 2: I became close to his band director and wife as

526
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Speaker 2: she was an English teacher in our school. Hearing my

527
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Speaker 2: best friend's experience raised my ears whenever.

528
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Speaker 1: We talked about it.

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Speaker 2: Well, long story short, Towards the end of our freshman year,

530
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Speaker 2: he was accused of inappropriate behavior and they wanted to

531
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Speaker 2: use her as a character witness. I her mom, family,

532
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 2: and former classmates and current friends expressed our concern with

533
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Speaker 2: her being a character witness. So I'm guessing the couple.

534
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Speaker 2: The man that was accused of the teacher who was

535
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Speaker 2: accused of interperate relationships, was like, well, you could be

536
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Speaker 2: my character witness. I've never done anything to you, and

537
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Speaker 2: these other children must be lying, and you know you

538
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Speaker 2: could tell everybody that I'm innocent, since if I was

539
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Speaker 2: messing with kids.

540
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Speaker 1: I would have messed with you, Doug.

541
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Speaker 2: Eventually she declined, even though they pressed her like crazy

542
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Speaker 2: to the point she almost had to block them, and

543
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Speaker 2: he settled out of court. Yeah, which is funny because

544
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Speaker 2: more than likely, even if she would have testified on

545
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Speaker 2: his behalf, he still would end up settling out of court.

546
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Speaker 2: So now you just look like a person that tried

547
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Speaker 2: to defend this person that's accused of inappropriate stuff with children.

548
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Speaker 2: It's also interesting there too, because I will probably talk

549
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Speaker 2: about this on the show next week. But I saw

550
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Speaker 2: Kevin Spacey was being defended by like Sharon Stone and

551
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 2: Liam Neeson who were talking about how great an actor

552
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Speaker 2: he was and how he needs to come back, and

553
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Speaker 2: I just kept thinking, like, what, why why?

554
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Speaker 1: Why?

555
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: Now?

556
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Speaker 1: Why him? Yeah, Like, he clearly is out of it.

557
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: He clearly is fucked up.

558
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Speaker 2: He clearly he's been accused of many, many, many improprieties

559
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 2: with young men and shit like this, and other actors

560
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 2: who are like, no, he did do.

561
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Speaker 1: This shit to me and it wasn't right. What what?

562
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Speaker 2: I don't even understand that mentality. You aren't those people

563
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 2: who are accusing him, so you don't really know, and

564
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 2: just being like but he's a great actor.

565
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Speaker 3: We know that, right, but we know that well.

566
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Speaker 2: This idea that like, uh, someone being a horrible person

567
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Speaker 2: or doing horrible stuff to people is just secondary to

568
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Speaker 2: their talent, is is That's one of the main problems

569
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Speaker 2: we have with shit. It's just okay, but they're super talented. Okay,

570
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Speaker 2: and like this, this motherfucker's being accused of sexual assault

571
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Speaker 2: at this point multiple times. I who the fuck cares

572
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: if he I don't. I don't give a.

573
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Speaker 1: Fuck out tellingy he is. I agreed.

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Speaker 2: They never spoke again. The I guess the teacher and

575
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Speaker 2: the girl he wanted to testify on his behalf. I

576
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: told her, while she thought every day was fine, everything

577
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: was fine and dandy, there was a clear power structure

578
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 2: at play, and his behavior can be seen as or

579
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Speaker 2: assumed inappropriate.

580
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Speaker 3: Correct, because he's the adult in charge.

581
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Speaker 2: Also, I think the fact that they never spoke again

582
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Speaker 2: tells you something. Man like all this, we're best friends,

583
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Speaker 2: will did da da da some kids, maybe, some relationships

584
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Speaker 2: with some teachers maybe.

585
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Speaker 1: But also that's when it became a job.

586
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Speaker 2: Because of whatever happened, I'm sure part of what the

587
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: whether it's the the settlement or whether it was the

588
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 2: school something was like, stop having these relationships with these

589
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 2: children appropriate and and and let's say for the sake

590
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Speaker 2: of argument, that he's actually one hundred percent innocent and

591
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: he's never done anything to any of these kids, and

592
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: some kid just.

593
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: Accused him of something he didn't do.

594
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Speaker 2: That's also a hazard of crossing these boundaries in the

595
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Speaker 2: gray areas with kids because you don't like. One of

596
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 2: the arguments I keep seeing is people being like, well,

597
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 2: some of these kids come from these really bad situations,

598
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Speaker 2: and these relationships with these teachers are like replacing the

599
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 2: bad relationships that they come from in their homes and

600
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: stuff like that, which maybe is true, but it also

601
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 2: lends itself to another kind of weirdly great area of

602
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: you're not that person, You're not that parent, you know,

603
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 2: you're not that You're just you're a teacher.

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Speaker 1: They're not going to have you in a year, you know,

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Speaker 1: or whatever.

606
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: But most importantly, that kid may not have positive or

607
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 2: healthy relationships, so they may not understand the boundaries. And

608
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Speaker 2: then you're kind of keeping it unprofessional or is our

609
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 2: professional let's say, and turn it into like, Okay, we're

610
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: doing some other stuff here here that night, that's not

611
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: necessarily be school related, or it may actually cross the

612
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: boundaries from not just not only not school related, but

613
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Speaker 2: into personal type stuff that we do for our friends

614
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Speaker 2: and our family members.

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Speaker 1: I can see how that would even.

616
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Speaker 2: Be confusing for a kid like this is not this

617
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Speaker 2: is not about cues anyone anything inappropriate. This is just

618
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: more like there's a lot of moving factors here, and

619
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Speaker 2: I think what happens is people cherry pick one or

620
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Speaker 2: the other and then.

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Speaker 1: They just ride super hard. And where I'm just going.

622
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Speaker 1: I can see how this the potential for.

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Speaker 2: A lot of stuff is right here, and I can

624
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Speaker 2: see why a school in a professional environment would be

625
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Speaker 2: like we should not either nip this.

626
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Speaker 1: In the bud or at very least stop putting it

627
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Speaker 1: on social media.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and a lot of schools and school systems have

629
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Speaker 3: rules and regulations on what you can and cannot do

630
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Speaker 3: some like sometimes a lot of times they do. And

631
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Speaker 3: so also it's one of those things where there are

632
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Speaker 3: children in any situation that these people are talking about

633
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 3: that have fond memories, that have teachers that impacted them

634
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 3: that didn't do some of these things. They're like, yeah,

635
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 3: this teacher changed my life. But you know what they

636
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 3: interacted with me within school hours. They didn't do anything

637
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 3: outside of that, Like you know, I didn't go over

638
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 3: their house, like you know what I'm saying, But the

639
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 3: teachers still had an impact on their lives.

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Speaker 1: I totally agree.

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00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 2: And that's something I haven't seen many people mentioned, is

642
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: like and like I said, this is what I like

643
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 2: to call a Facebook.

644
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: Mean, yes, it's the kind of thing where you see

645
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: it and we have to.

646
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: Project so much onto it and we end up really

647
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: just arguing our projections and not necessarily what we're seeing.

648
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 2: But it's not that people's projections are all not valid.

649
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: It's just human nature. We don't have enough information, right, agreed,

650
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: But I didn't really see anybody bring up that. Heyeple,

651
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 2: there's teachers that we all remember that affected our lives

652
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 2: and it wasn't a necessarily it didn't have to be

653
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 2: a It crossed the line into like it was a

654
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: very personal relationship where we were doing stuff that we

655
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: would do with family members and friends. Some people were

656
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: just really good fucking teachers and and it just made

657
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: you be like, oh, yeah, they taught me this thing,

658
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: they gave me this speech, they let me stay after

659
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Speaker 2: school to work in their classroom or something it didn't

660
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: necessarily become, and then I gave her a manicure, and

661
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: that's that's. I think the fact that people are not

662
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: acknowledging that that gray area could potentially be something.

663
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: Bad right or be or lead to something bad is

664
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: weird to me.

665
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: Because, especially with a man and young girls, it is

666
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: I have never seen people be so willing to be trusting.

667
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 2: It's almost like one of these thought exercises as opposed

668
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: to real life, Whereas I do wonder how they feel

669
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: about it if it was just like a real life thing,

670
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: and you have to hope that you know that that

671
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: that ula has prevailed. But anyway, when I saw the

672
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 2: TikTok conversation, I was very sad at people defending his behavior,

673
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 2: implying we're throwing away good teachers doing a teacher shortage.

674
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: The level of intimacy displayed in the original video.

675
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: Or reaffirmed in his follow up videos shows a clear

676
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: inappropriate relationship between him and students. Why did you create

677
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: a space where miners not only feel comfortable texting you

678
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: but also have your personal number? Once again, the students

679
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 2: might think everything is fine, but the teacher opened up

680
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: a space for issues to occur. It hurts my heart

681
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: that students are not being protected at a time of

682
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 2: rampant teacher and student inappropriate conduct.

683
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: There have been too many stories.

684
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: Of our middle school women teachers praying on their male students.

685
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: We need to protect children during the time where their

686
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: emotions are cloudy mess. I hate that things are now

687
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: turning into social media arguments when there's a hot level

688
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: of complexity to the matter.

689
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 3: Yes it is, and people act like when these situations happen,

690
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 3: there's not an imbalance of power. There's not people taking

691
00:33:54,960 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 3: advantage of the children, you know, and sometimes the children

692
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 3: taking advantage of the teachers niceness.

693
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: And wanting to.

694
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 3: Be like, Okay, I want to be the quote unquote

695
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 3: coote teacher, whatever it may be. And so, but it's

696
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 3: up to that adult to realize that's what the child

697
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 3: is doing, because you're still the adult in the situation

698
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 3: and nip that bullshit in the bud.

699
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: What I think is interested is a couple of points

700
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: to add.

701
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 2: He posted it on social media because he knew it

702
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 2: would start an argument. I don't think I can't pop.

703
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 2: Other people might be able to separate that and argue

704
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: the other shit.

705
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: I can't.

706
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 2: This is my problem with all the content creator at

707
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 2: your professional environment jobs. And this is what I keep

708
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 2: talking about entertainment space values versus work values and stuff.

709
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: It's the same thing with Lizzo and Megan thee Stallion

710
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: too for me, where it's like entertainers are now being

711
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: looked at through the lens of workplace rules.

712
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: I'm not calling that good or bad. I'm noticing the change.

713
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: If I was one of them entertainers, I'd started noticing

714
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 2: that change too, and switch up my motherfucking style because

715
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to get dragged through the mud for

716
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: shit that I thought was cool rock and roll and

717
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 2: it turns out it was abusive power because someone, or

718
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 2: it was allegedly abusive power because someone perceived.

719
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 1: It as such.

720
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that wrong, but if someone there's

721
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: a ton of people that work on camera, that work

722
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 2: with cameras that would have loved to hang out with

723
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 2: making the Stallion have been just fine with everything that

724
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: that person is alleging, And there's a ton of people

725
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 2: that would be like, I'll see you in HR. I

726
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 2: would air on the side to see you in HR.

727
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: That's just how I would, you know, handle my life.

728
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, so that's one. He posted it as content

729
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 2: to argue I cannot let.

730
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 3: That go and guess what he reposted it.

731
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no. So that's what I'm saying.

732
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: He went live on Instagram.

733
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 2: That's not really posting it as content, right, whatever's happening

734
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: is live.

735
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: You can't like choosing whatever.

736
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, And he noticed that it started a conversation

737
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 2: in the ig live. He then took that content that

738
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 2: was and posted it for the purpose of Hey, I

739
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: saw the conversation. So like the first one, I can

740
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: almost forgive because like, oh, you didn't know maybe this

741
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 2: would have put you on to like oh this is inappropriate,

742
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 2: or some people view this as crossing the line.

743
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: Nigga. You the next time you put it up was

744
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: specifically because it crossed the one.

745
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 3: Right, and then you went and crossed into other platforms outside.

746
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 2: Of just yeah, but everywhere you put it, even if

747
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 2: you would have put it on Instagram by you still

748
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: are putting it up now because explicitly, I notice is

749
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: a hot button topic.

750
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 1: Yes, that's a content creator mindset. That's not a teacher mindset.

751
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: It sounds like teaching becomes secondary to you and you

752
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 2: can get a viral moment that isn't to me no matter.

753
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 2: And we're gonna read a lot of comments about this

754
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 2: because people felt very strongly one way or other. But

755
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 2: to me, I'm trying to go to the place where

756
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 2: I think people with logical common sense can agree to like, yeah,

757
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 2: that is weird and unnecessary. And if he never does that,

758
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 2: we're not talking about whether we lost a good teacher

759
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 2: or not. Right, we wouldn't even be talking about we'd

760
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, cause that, you know, I just don't

761
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 2: think you do that. The second thing I want to

762
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 2: point out too, because she brought up how middle school

763
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 2: women teachers are praying on the male students and that

764
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: here's the thing, the girls students are being preyed upon,

765
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 2: but it's not as big of news because we don't

766
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 2: see it as relacious and because of the way gender

767
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: dynamics and privileged works and patriarchy works. We still are

768
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 2: fighting that whole you know, man, them boys looking that

769
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 2: they're you know, we're still fighting that bullshit that men say,

770
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: and that a lot of people.

771
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: And I don't ever go down that road on this podcast.

772
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 2: In addition to thing and it's a half ass joke, like, right,

773
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: it was nineteen eighty three, Get a new joke. But

774
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 2: most importantly, I don't even go down that road because

775
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 2: there's this assumption that like, a fifteen year old boy

776
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 2: can't wait to have sex with.

777
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: A grown woman can't wait.

778
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 2: But it also is assuming that all fifteen year old

779
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 2: girls are just hate like, oh, I'm so scared of sex.

780
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: That's not true, and so the want to of the

781
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: child shouldn't fucking matter, right, because what happens is we go, well,

782
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 2: no girl wants to have sex with a fucking adult,

783
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 2: and all boys do.

784
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: That's not true that some of the boys don't, some

785
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: of the girls don't, some of the girls do, some

786
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 1: of the boys do.

787
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: The point is they're not adults that can really truly

788
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: make these long term logical decisions and shouldn't be with

789
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: these older people that actually do know all the ramifications

790
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: of this stuff, and they use the naivete of the

791
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 2: kids to be like, oh, yeah, so you listen, you

792
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: sixteen or whatever, that's fine. I don't even understand how

793
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: y'all spent years thinking Drake was gross and weird and

794
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 2: hating Leonardo DiCaprio, who dates twenty five year old women,

795
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 2: and then people suddenly see shit like this and they're like, well, honestly,

796
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 2: you know, if some of the girls want to do

797
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 2: it like that's that's weird to me.

798
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: And I'm not fussing at the person that wrote this.

799
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: I know they know, but just in.

800
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: General, it don't even matter male, female students or whatever.

801
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 2: Just were talking adults and children.

802
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 3: It's wrong, right, And you have a lot of people

803
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 3: that are female that have been placed in situations with

804
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 3: older men, and a lot of them if you talk

805
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 3: to some of them, they will tell you that it

806
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: was okay and it's not abuse, even though, like you said,

807
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 3: their mind is not fully developed. They will tell you

808
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 3: they were making their own choices in their own decisions,

809
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 3: and they will tell you there was nothing wrong inappropriate

810
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 3: with that relationship. If you are sixteen and somebody who's

811
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 3: twenty one or twenty five, there's a big difference in

812
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 3: the emotional development there and you as a child, you

813
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 3: don't really know what you're talking about. But a lot

814
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 3: of time, society and people will trick children into thinking

815
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 3: that they are adults and can make adupe decisions that

816
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 3: can handle adult responsibility when they really don't know what

817
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 3: they're talking about, and it's unfair because you have like

818
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 3: these people, these adults like you say that would have

819
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 3: been in their relationspheel this way, but then turn around

820
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 3: and look at Drake crazy and look at me. A

821
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 3: lot are crazy. But when people go, well, you were

822
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 3: in the situation similar to this one, you would, you know,

823
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 3: eighteen whatever, you would say, that's okay because whatever reason,

824
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 3: you're an exception to the rule. And you're so super

825
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 3: goddamn mature.

826
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: You you you you're so much.

827
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 2: Every one age right, you know why we can't really

828
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 2: rely on the kid to tell us what is it

829
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: isn't appropriate?

830
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, we'll get into a more or people

831
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 1: have stuff to say anyway.

832
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: Second, your interaction with a listener on Twitter really opened

833
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 2: my eyes to people projecting their own thoughts on the

834
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 2: strangers to accuse you of bully and your wife and

835
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 2: or harming her was alarming. When you genuinely ask for examples,

836
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: they automatically went on defense mode. They made it seem

837
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: like you were attacking him. Yeah, they did this thing

838
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 2: I saw on a clip about Kendrick Lamar. What this

839
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 2: guy kept saying Kendrick Lamar was overrated in a pot

840
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: on a podcast, and so the host of the podcast,

841
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 2: let me see if I can find a clip.

842
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: Oh, nah, I'm not seeing it.

843
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: But the host of the podcast was like, well, how

844
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: is he over Why do you say that? How is

845
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 2: he overrated? And the guy just kept going I can

846
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 2: have an opinion, and he said yeah, but I'm asking

847
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: you for example, like why am saying that he's overrated?

848
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: What's overrated about him?

849
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: And the guy just kept being like like, well, I

850
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 2: mean you're trying to say I can't I can say

851
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 2: what I want to say. He's like, no one's saying

852
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: you can't say it. I'll ask you to explain it correct.

853
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: And that comes up in two ways. One, this person

854
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: is saying this stuff about me, I'm like, can I

855
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 2: have an example? And it's just, well, I don't be listening,

856
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: I don't have an exact sample, d D okay cool.

857
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 2: And then two, when people feel like that it ain't

858
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: you can't reason with those kind of people. They just

859
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 2: you know, they have a vibe or whatever the fuck,

860
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: And it turns into I can have an opinion, which

861
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 2: no one was arguing that you couldn't have an opinion, right,

862
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: nobody said that, And then the third thing I put

863
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: up is a lot of times with Karen, and I'm

864
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: like this with everybody. If you say something and I

865
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: don't understand, I'm going to always ask the person to elaborate,

866
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 2: for an example, if that is challenging to you, if

867
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 2: that is an attack to you, I'm just not for you.

868
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 2: I'm not kind of person you should be around, because

869
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: I'm never gonna just sit here and just not understand,

870
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: but just act like I understand and just you know,

871
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 2: like honestly, when I do that, it's typical. That's the

872
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 2: real disrespect is when you say some shit I don't

873
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 2: understand and I'll be like okay and move the fuck on.

874
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: That really means I don't respect you. I don't want

875
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: to know how your mind thinks. I don't respect how

876
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: your mind thinks, and I'm not gonna go there for you.

877
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 2: So I try to be open mind to give everybody

878
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 2: a chance to explain themselves. I try not to jump

879
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 2: to conclusions. I don't do what to attack the people,

880
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 2: but you know I do. And this also, it's a

881
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 2: fucking talking podcast, nigga. They want to know what we

882
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: think and how we got there, right, what's the point

883
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,479
Speaker 2: of doing the show of it. Don't nobody understand anyway, Sorry,

884
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,439
Speaker 2: people have been using therapy technology to justify their own preconceptions.

885
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,720
Speaker 1: The fact you broke down and running joke of the podcast.

886
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: She dismissed it to imply you being mean to your

887
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: wife was downright disingenuous and.

888
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: A bad faith tape. Yes, how I read it.

889
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 2: That's actually what made me stop replying and delete everything

890
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 2: I sent to her, because I was just like, Oh,

891
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 2: this person's cuckoo for coco nuts, cocoa puffs, cocoa puffs.

892
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

893
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 2: To see many people within the community you all built

894
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 2: defend you as hard woman and shows there's hope in counting, counting, attack, counting, attacking, countering, attacking,

895
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 2: counter attacking, negativity and college behavior. Yeah, you know, I'm

896
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 2: glad that so many people that did speak up and

897
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: say nice things that really did feel good. I'm not

898
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 2: even gonna lie about that. But I deleted it because

899
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 2: I don't want people paling on that woman, because honestly

900
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 2: I could give a fuck about her. She she got

901
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 2: her pin and she never has to listen again.

902
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: Good good for her.

903
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 2: And also I didn't want people feeling like it was

904
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 2: a call to the community to come and support us

905
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: and show us how much you love us. Now, look

906
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 2: back in the day, I feel like I would have

907
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 2: either left something up like that or said some snarky

908
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: stuff to her, really tried to go with her, because

909
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: you know, I was less secure about our show and

910
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 2: about our content and our entertainment and all this stuff.

911
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 2: But that's a different That was just a different time

912
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: for me. I'm not in that mode anymore. And everyone

913
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 2: can perceive the show how they want. I don't get

914
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 2: to control that, and they don't have to be accurate,

915
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: and their reality is a mind and what they feel

916
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 2: about me doesn't affect my reality, so you know, and

917
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 2: I will always bring up this example, but I'll have

918
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: to shout out Lipstick Alley for that, because I used

919
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: to search our show and see, like, oh, who's talking

920
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: about us? And one day I stumbled on the Lipstick

921
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: Alley and it was a long running thread that that.

922
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of the commentary was scathing, to

923
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 2: say the least, you know, and it really hurt my

924
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: feelings at the time to be like, damn, I mean,

925
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: we didn't put this out for people to feel this

926
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 2: bad about us or to be this mean towards us,

927
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: and then you know, it just made me think, like, yeah,

928
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 2: but that's how some folks consume the content. They were

929
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 2: still listening, even the ones. You know, if they stopped listening,

930
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 2: you know, that's cool too, but they was. They they

931
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: found something in what we did, whether it was hating

932
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 2: it or loving it, and that's for them to do.

933
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,439
Speaker 2: All we can do is put out what we feel

934
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 2: is the best content and move on and just understand

935
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 2: it ain't for everybody, and they'll find somebody else to

936
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: listen to or whatever.

937
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: And you know, also, when I clicked on all.

938
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 2: The other threads for the other podcast, they were shitting

939
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: on them too, so I was like, shit, I don't know.

940
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: I thought those podcasts was good too.

941
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 3: And also the thing is being a content created, which

942
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 3: people that don't create things and put it out in

943
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 3: the world sometimes have a tendency not to understand. Once

944
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 3: you put it out into the world, you have no

945
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 3: control in how people consume it and how they perceive

946
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 3: it and their comprehension of it. You just don't you

947
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 3: don't know what kind of frame of mind they're Because

948
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 3: we've had people who said, you know, I listen to

949
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 3: a show at that time, I just went in the

950
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 3: point of my life where I could listen, came back

951
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 3: later on and I was and I could receive it.

952
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 3: And it's one of those things where you got to

953
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 3: be okay with that. And I'm cool with that, but

954
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 3: you have to be okay with that. And also, I

955
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 3: think because our minds tick very differently, you know, I'm like,

956
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 3: don't care, you know type of thing.

957
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, but that's not true.

958
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 4: Care.

959
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: You always say this, and I don't know if you're

960
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: just trying to flex on me or what, but that's

961
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: not true. You do care. You talk to me about it,

962
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: You talk about it on end when we bring it

963
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: up on the podcast. After the podcast, you come over

964
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: and start talking to me about it again. Like, and

965
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: another thought about that. You absolutely do care.

966
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 2: You just don't want them to see that you care,

967
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 2: and you don't win placed any time responding directly to

968
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: those people.

969
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 3: Agreed, But you do time, right, But you do care. Yes,

970
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 3: I do care, But I also don't go searching for

971
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 3: it too.

972
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not searching for it.

973
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 3: This is I mean, I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, but

974
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 3: but but like, but you with that part, that's the

975
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 3: part that I'm like, I don't care because I'm not

976
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 3: going and like searching for it, Like if it's something

977
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 3: that appears in front of my eyes, that's gonna be

978
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 3: different if I'm just going around. You're like, well, boom, Yes,

979
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 3: I do have opinions about it and I feel certain

980
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 3: ways about it, but a lot of times when it

981
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 3: comes to those things a time and funny, I don't

982
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 3: really know y'all. So in order for me to want

983
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 3: to engage in a good faith conversation, I actually need

984
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 3: to have a rapport and I don't feel like that

985
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 3: with most people. I don't feel like, in my opinion,

986
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 3: is not worth their time and or the energy. I

987
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 3: don't want to get down and rabit hold it, but like, oh,

988
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 3: you're crazy. I just assume whatever your opinion is your opinion.

989
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 3: These are my opinions, and this is how I feel

990
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 3: about it, and I feel good talking to you about it,

991
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 3: getting my opinions about it, and just moving on. Like

992
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 3: if I care enough, I would engage with you. But

993
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 3: I don't care enough to have those engagements with most

994
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 3: people because with most people it is not worth the time.

995
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 3: There are they have that they feel a certain way,

996
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 3: and it's nothing I can say in or do to

997
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 3: change their opinion. A lot of times I feel a

998
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 3: certain way and there's nothing I can say in or do.

999
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 3: There's nothing they can say in or do to change

1000
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 3: my opinion about it. Yes, you can have comm and

1001
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 3: say with people who cause people to change opinion, but

1002
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 3: I'm old, so a lot of times for me to

1003
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 3: want to have that conversation with you, I want to

1004
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 3: see your face. I like those type of conversations. But

1005
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 3: because of the society and and the and the world

1006
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 3: we live in now, you really can't have those type

1007
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 3: of conversations. It's me reading your words, interpreting what I

1008
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 3: think you might meant, and so a lot of times

1009
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 3: not that shit is because of social media gets lost

1010
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 3: in translation. I don't see the inflection of your voice,

1011
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 3: I don't see your facial expressions, Like there are certain

1012
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 3: things that you must, in my opinion, that you need

1013
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 3: to have in real human conversation in order to get

1014
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 3: to the root, to the bobbo and the cause of

1015
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 3: the things, And most people don't want to take the

1016
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 3: time to do that. They want to form opinions. Come

1017
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 3: at you hard and just be like you're supposed to

1018
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 3: take this bullshit because society and social media, and everybody

1019
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 3: tell me that I'm the most important person. My feelings

1020
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 3: are the one that matters. My reality is the one

1021
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 3: that matters. And consequences of my of my words or

1022
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 3: how I make you feel or any of this stuff

1023
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 3: be down because I am the most important person in

1024
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 3: my universe and I don't function will under that. So

1025
00:49:58,520 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 3: I just want to talk to you about it and

1026
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 3: keep it pushing then to then to have to deal

1027
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 3: with that with that mess.

1028
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 1: In my opinion, Yeah, no, that makes perfect sense.

1029
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 2: Like I was just when you said you don't care,

1030
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 2: I was just like, come on, now we done both

1031
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 2: sat up in here.

1032
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 3: Yeah I do care.

1033
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you have gone in they just ain't seen it.

1034
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 2: So I know that the hot fire furnace that is

1035
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 2: that is burning uh inside your airy's heart that they

1036
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 2: don't necessary.

1037
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: Bo Roger, you gotta be having the smoke. Boy. I

1038
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: get it out on the show and then I'm like,

1039
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm cool, I don't need to talk about it no more.

1040
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: And then Karen's like, now I want to talk about it.

1041
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:40,919
Speaker 1: I was like, well we talked. That was the time.

1042
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 2: I want to ruin my lunch with the ship. I

1043
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 2: don't give a fuck anymore. I already called that person

1044
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 2: the sklly wag, and I'm ready to move on. People

1045
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 2: have been using the third other way I said that part.

1046
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, once again, Oh and the last thing with

1047
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 2: that person, it was ironic that at the end they

1048
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 2: were the one that was being condescending and.

1049
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: Talking, talking, reckless and all that shit. It was very ironic.

1050
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 3: Because that's that's what they wanted to go. Like I said,

1051
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 3: they wanted to pick a fight with you, nobody else

1052
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 3: but you, and didn't get to pick a fight with you.

1053
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 3: So when other people came along, they was like, well,

1054
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 3: I guess I did with y'all, but I actually want

1055
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 3: to fight with Rod. And since Rod didn't want to

1056
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 3: fight me, you know, because I think one person, they

1057
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 3: was like, well, I'm bored, I ain't got nothing this

1058
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 3: to do. I was like, yeah, because you want to fight,

1059
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 3: you didn't get a fight. Now you're disappointed, so now

1060
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 3: you're throwing fucking tomatoes, going fight me, fight me, fight me.

1061
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very ironic.

1062
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 5: Right.

1063
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 2: Once again, the parties on along Email just got finished

1064
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 2: This to Your Mother's d episode, only to see listener

1065
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 2: attack y'all's relationship and Rod's character. Oh so this before

1066
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 2: we even talked about on the show. Have a great night,

1067
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 2: and I can't wait for all the episodes this week.

1068
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1069
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 2: Let's see educator free Us says, as an educator, I

1070
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:56,760
Speaker 2: understand what's happening with this teacher.

1071
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: His students.

1072
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 2: Our kids need more than what the traditional white face

1073
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 2: school models give them, not saying this specific setting is

1074
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 2: necessary for our children to learn better, but other models

1075
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 2: can work better for our kids.

1076
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 3: Okay, other teaching models.

1077
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's see.

1078
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 2: Freedom school models are a better suited for our kids,

1079
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: but it still doesn't fill the gaps. I don't know

1080
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 2: much about that. I think he was he has a

1081
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 2: typical relationship with the students. For social media is not

1082
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 2: the best place to display that relationship because people are

1083
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 2: projecting the very hypocritical recording it is not so bad,

1084
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 2: but live streaming it and I wouldn't but I wouldn't.

1085
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 2: But I don't know his reasons. Maybe he paid them,

1086
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. Okay, see, so now we're starting to

1087
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 2: get into some projection of our own right there, right like,

1088
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 2: aren't you at this point saying essentially where you're adding

1089
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 2: stuff that he hasn't said, so now we're making.

1090
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,240
Speaker 1: It a well maybe he paid the kids.

1091
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 2: Well, he didn't say that, and as much as he shares,

1092
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 2: it would be an odd thing for him not to say,

1093
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: you know at this point because you you know, you

1094
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: technically have said a lot of stuff, you know, like

1095
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 2: I don't know, man I think.

1096
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 3: And also Dave popaka point, I wouldn't do it right,

1097
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 3: you would.

1098
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: Not do that. Yeah, I can't lose sight of that

1099
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: as well.

1100
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 2: However, if that was a famous rapper, singer, actor, society

1101
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 2: would not have a problem.

1102
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: That's totally not No, No, that's not true.

1103
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 3: They're not teachers.

1104
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: No, that's not true.

1105
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: If a fa, a famous rapper, singer, actor had kids

1106
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 2: braiding their hair on Instagram live and then posted it

1107
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 2: to be like I heard people thought this was inappropriate

1108
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 2: and so I'm posting it to start a conversation.

1109
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 3: That would be a problem.

1110
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 2: Yes, that would be the crux of this Drake shit

1111
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 2: is not No one knows that Drake has had sex

1112
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 2: with any underage girl period. Ever, this stuff is stuck

1113
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 2: to him for years because and he is a famous rappers,

1114
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 2: but he keeps kicking in with these young girls and

1115
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 2: then going on dates with him when they turn eighteen

1116
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 2: and nineteen, it does stick with them.

1117
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: The same thing for r Kelly for years, stuck with

1118
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: yes whole last videos.

1119
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 2: So like, no, there's many many times that we I'm

1120
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 2: not even saying all the stuff, all that people think

1121
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 2: is inappropriate is inappropriate.

1122
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: But it does stick to famous people as well. There

1123
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: are famous people that date grown women.

1124
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 2: So like Leonardo DiCaprio being forty some fifty something and

1125
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 2: dating a twenty five year old, that stigma sticks with him.

1126
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 2: Hugh Hefner dating knows those twenty something year old when

1127
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 2: he was fucking known old as hell. It does stick

1128
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 2: with like it's a notable thing, regardless of what your

1129
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 2: level of fame and success. Now, the other part of

1130
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 2: this is this guy's priorities by making it content is

1131
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 2: to be famous.

1132
00:54:58,640 --> 00:54:59,959
Speaker 1: That is why you make this content.

1133
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 2: It wasn't educational content he was putting out necessarily.

1134
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: It was a lot of personality driven. The camera's on me,

1135
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: you know.

1136
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 2: Once you start seeing the other videos, which I'm kind

1137
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 2: of surprised that we brought up those videos.

1138
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 1: I really thought that would be the end of it.

1139
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 2: But when you see the videos of the fat shame

1140
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,240
Speaker 2: and stuff, when you see the videos about him ougling

1141
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 2: at sixteen year old girl's ass and pretend to be

1142
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 2: an emo boy. I thought that would be the end

1143
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 2: of the whole Like, well, I don't even think why

1144
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 2: would anyone have a problem with this? You know, I'm

1145
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 2: not trying to. Yeah, I just don't even see how

1146
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 2: you cannot how that wouldn't end it. It's the end

1147
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 2: of the school year. All final grades are already in

1148
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 2: for the year. There's no real instruction at this point.

1149
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 2: I've had to buy hair and help break students' hair.

1150
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 2: I've given them close soap to pace and other personalizes.

1151
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,439
Speaker 2: I think that's totally different. By the way, I don't

1152
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 2: like for students to touch my hair, but that's a

1153
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 2: black woman thing. But I think people are missing a

1154
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 2: relationship part of the whole thing. I bet it students

1155
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 2: perform well above average.

1156
00:55:59,360 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: Well you know why.

1157
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 2: One of the reasons people are missing the relationship part

1158
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: is because social media doesn't have a relationship with you

1159
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 2: and those students agreed, so you posting them as content

1160
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,720
Speaker 2: leads to people doing exactly what I What we're watching happen.

1161
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,439
Speaker 1: So even in the best case scenario.

1162
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 2: Where everything is on and completely good intention and smart

1163
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 2: and well and he's he's paying the kids, and we

1164
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 2: just don't know it every positive aspect you can have

1165
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 2: on a sliding scale for this black man, because I

1166
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 2: know part of the reason that we're making the scale slide,

1167
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 2: and it's because it's a black male teacher and there's

1168
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 2: not many of them. Yes, and we would like to

1169
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 2: root for the black male teacher, period, And I just

1170
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 2: don't think you can divorce that from this conversation, because honestly,

1171
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 2: I think if this was some if this is a

1172
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 2: black woman teacher and all her teenage black male students,

1173
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 2: we're giving her a massage as in the black no

1174
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 2: black girls are in it. I think social media would

1175
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 2: destroy her.

1176
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 3: I agree.

1177
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 2: So there's a privileged element to this and that we

1178
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 2: feel we need these guys in the school. But we're

1179
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 2: making a lot of assumptions to make sure that it

1180
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 2: is a good thing he was doing, and I just

1181
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 2: he's not showing us these things. So you say, I

1182
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 2: betted students perform well, maybe above average, How do you

1183
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 2: know you just assume that and you had to you

1184
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 2: have to put that in there to make it okay.

1185
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 2: The better my relationship with my students, the better they performed.

1186
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 2: The more I showed them my vulnerabilities, they were more

1187
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 2: open to me, especially about learning. Teachers need to cultivate

1188
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 2: their relations their kids and it should not be transactional

1189
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 2: like jobs. We need more black male teacher so this

1190
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 2: won't look weird to the world. White women are the

1191
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 2: highest percentage of teachers teaching black kids, and black men

1192
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 2: are the lowest. Yeah, but honest to god, if y'all

1193
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 2: black people saw a and I'm saying y'all on purpose

1194
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 2: to make a point, if y'all black people saw a

1195
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 2: white woman with little black girls combing her fucking hair.

1196
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 3: Minds, and y'all wouldn't say it was okay. You wouldn't

1197
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 3: say it was all right to demand of that.

1198
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: Bitch be five you.

1199
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 3: You would have been like, no, bitch, what the fuck

1200
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 3: is this?

1201
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 2: It would have been and especially if she posted it

1202
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 2: like this started a conversation on Instagram, right, we would

1203
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 2: have been like, then you're gonna start a conversation the

1204
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 2: unemployment line agreed.

1205
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 3: You know, you wouldn't have had this same defense.

1206
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: But that's my belief.

1207
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 2: The more I showed them rolling, nah, we need more

1208
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 2: black white women out of the hospital since teacher, a

1209
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 2: white teacher woman did something similar some years back and

1210
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 2: didn't get the same level of uproar.

1211
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 3: What was it?

1212
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: I need the specifics.

1213
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 2: Many of the proven inappropriate relationships with young students are

1214
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 2: white women. This happens to my to my hoghschal this

1215
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 2: happened in my high school. The teacher never went to jail.

1216
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 2: She actually had a child with the student, then remarried

1217
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 2: a white man and took that young man through hell. Okay,

1218
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 2: I don't see how that's necessarily relevant to this if

1219
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 2: your this feels like the argument would make for a

1220
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,439
Speaker 2: lot of times on inappropriate people within our.

1221
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: Own uh gender and.

1222
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,919
Speaker 2: And uh marginalizations do stuff and we say, well, white

1223
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 2: people find a way to get away with it.

1224
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 3: No, it's still bad.

1225
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: That was bad, and something should have happened to her.

1226
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: I don't.

1227
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone would disagree. And it has nothing

1228
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 2: to do with this teacher didn't let the students see

1229
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 2: his child or nothing. No one suspected her being inappropriate students.

1230
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 2: I bring that up because society has trained us not

1231
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 2: to suspect them, but to suspect us. But you know

1232
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 2: this podcast ain't that we do suspect them so anyway,

1233
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 2: So sometimes it got check ourselves because people can be

1234
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 2: anti black to without knowing it.

1235
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all not gonna make this an anti black thing. No,

1236
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: I'm not.

1237
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 2: This show is not that show that is like, you

1238
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 2: can't trust these black people educating the kids.

1239
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: Know we ain't and we're not.

1240
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be gas litter tricked into that shit.

1241
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 2: I can look at that and go, that's a weird

1242
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 2: gray area. And it's very inappropriate to post that. Yes,

1243
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 2: it is without without being like, and that's because black

1244
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 2: men are this like, because all black men are trash,

1245
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 2: and they definitely he definitely had sex with them kids.

1246
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 2: I didn't say any of those things. Karen didn't say it.

1247
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 2: No listeners said it. We're just saying it seems very inappropriate,

1248
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 2: and the priorities to post it seems to be the

1249
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 2: wrong priorities that I wouldn't want necessarily for a teacher.

1250
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: Right.

1251
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 3: And also the person that wrote in like I said,

1252
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hop on this again, you got enough common

1253
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 3: sense to know you would not post this. You would

1254
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 3: not post this now. Ain't trying to be funny, you

1255
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 3: know you And guess what, there's something withinside of you

1256
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 3: that says I should not post this. That person didn't

1257
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 3: have that trigger inside of them to say not to

1258
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 3: record this and not to post this, right, And that's

1259
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 3: the difference, and that's the problem. So it's like they

1260
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 3: did this, there were consequences behind their actions. There's no

1261
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 3: reason for you to have an internal feeling to defend them.

1262
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 3: But people, But in your letter, basically you're basically telling me,

1263
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 3: Like I said, this is just my interpretation of what

1264
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 3: you're saying. We have a short that your black male teachers.

1265
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 3: It's a racial thing. Why are we doing this? Brother?

1266
01:00:58,280 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 3: Like that?

1267
01:00:59,000 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: Yep?

1268
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 3: And and that might not be what you're hearing, but

1269
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 3: that's what I'm hearing in the words that you are

1270
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 3: writing to us. If it's something different, please write, Please

1271
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 3: write us back so we can get a better understanding

1272
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 3: of what you're trying to say in or imply and

1273
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 3: from your words, that's what I'm getting.

1274
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 2: And I think the anti black thing comes up if

1275
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 2: you're a person that.

1276
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 1: Will watch white people do this and not have a problem.

1277
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not those persons. I don't think the

1278
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: people that have an issue with this.

1279
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 2: I think the la the least part of this is, well,

1280
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 2: the problem is that he's black, because I guarantee if

1281
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 2: it's a white person, the people that are.

1282
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: Defending him wouldn't be defending them. That's the real thing.

1283
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 2: So like, I don't you know, I don't know if

1284
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 2: it's like the lowered expectations of whatever, or just the

1285
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 2: desperation for having that blackmail teach your influence or positive

1286
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 2: black mail figures. But the fact that your response doesn't

1287
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 2: even bring up the igling the sixteen year old, doesn't

1288
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 2: bring up the it's not my business when the other

1289
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 2: girls getting called fat and all this shit that you

1290
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 2: want something to be true, so you're just skipping over

1291
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 2: anything that doesn't job with that.

1292
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: It's how I feel.

1293
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 2: Booklyn shoe Base says, the more I showed this is

1294
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 2: a response, the more I showed my vulnerabilities, they were

1295
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 2: more open to me. Especially about learning. Teachers need to

1296
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 2: call the relationships their kids. It should not be transactional

1297
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 2: like jobs. This part right here you call it vulnerability.

1298
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 2: I call it relatability, especially when you may be the

1299
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 2: only or one or only one of a few black

1300
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 2: educators a black child interacts with. Of course, you have

1301
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 2: to have some emotional boundaries because they interacting with children

1302
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 2: who may have trauma on the constant basis could burn

1303
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 2: you out.

1304
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, once again, I do.

1305
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 2: Wonder what happens if in these same scenarios where these

1306
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 2: kind of lines are blurred and then later there is

1307
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 2: actual abuse that is out it. I feel like none

1308
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 2: of these these people will show up and be like,

1309
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 2: well I was the one defending that kind of shit,

1310
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 2: like I was the one being like, well, this is

1311
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 2: what you need to be able to do to be

1312
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 2: a teacher. Because we know that that happens, and we

1313
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 2: all agree to that's bad. But then when something in

1314
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 2: this gray area is happening, we're all like, well, we

1315
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 2: got to support it, and I'm like, I don't know

1316
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 2: that I have to.

1317
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: I'm okay being like.

1318
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 2: Like I said, if it was my child and I

1319
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 2: signed a permission slip that they could be on TikTok,

1320
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 2: assuming I wanna tell you what I would have assumed,

1321
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 2: which is educational type content. Yes, if I looked up

1322
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 2: there and my child was, you know, doing hair or whatever,

1323
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 2: I would probably be like, that is not you know

1324
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 2: what I signed that That is not what I was thinking, right,

1325
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 2: you know, that's all I'm saying, I am not saying.

1326
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't think I'm being.

1327
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 2: Super ridiculous about it. I've seen other people post content

1328
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 2: like that. One dude used to interview the kids on

1329
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 2: like his daycare. He wasn't touching the kids, they weren't

1330
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 2: doing his hair, but he'd be like, you know, tell

1331
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 2: them why you know, what do you think such and

1332
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 2: such is? And then they'd say something and that was

1333
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 2: very cute and adorable and in front. It would served

1334
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 2: all the purposes of an influencer and all the purposes

1335
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 2: of relationship building with your kids, and it didn't have

1336
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 2: to crossing and stuff where they were giving you manicures,

1337
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 2: paddicures or doing your hair. I think this somehow has

1338
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 2: turned into like and this is the only way to

1339
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 2: do it, or that there's nothing wrong with this, And

1340
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't really say that there's nothing wrong

1341
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:37,439
Speaker 2: with this, because I would assume when parents, I would

1342
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 2: assume when parents signed that premission slip, this ain't what

1343
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 2: they was thinking.

1344
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 3: I agree, and also maybe the way I'm perceiving it too. Yes,

1345
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 3: there is a smaller or low percentage of black male teachers,

1346
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 3: but there are black male teachers out here, y'all that

1347
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 3: have been teaching for a very long time, and guess what,

1348
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 3: they're not doing this bullshit? So why is the standard

1349
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 3: load for them? Like they are a lot of black

1350
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 3: male teachers there aren't doing these things. They're doing their job,

1351
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 3: they're educating, their impacting students' lives and being there. But

1352
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 3: they're not doing this, So why is the standard lord

1353
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 3: for them and not the same standard for everybody else

1354
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 3: in the group.

1355
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 2: I was agnostic about the hair aspects that Sean made

1356
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 2: me feel as an educator that it was inappropriate. What

1357
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 2: made me feel it was inappropriate was the live streaming.

1358
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 2: Even if it was pre recorded, it would have been

1359
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 2: uncomfortable without giving the students and parents an opportunity for

1360
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 2: truly informed consent. With the myriad of issues where I

1361
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 2: touched on about social pressures, it is completely unacceptable. As

1362
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 2: an educational manager, I too many, I have too many hats.

1363
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 2: I would not fire him for this, but would play

1364
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 2: strict restrictions and guidelines on what could be what he

1365
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 2: could do within school grounds related to social media. That's

1366
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 2: to me, it seems like and I think also because

1367
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 2: and we still don't know if he got fired, right.

1368
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 2: I think people kept saying he was gonna get fired,

1369
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 2: but it was Twitter. He didn't even say he was

1370
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 2: getting fired in that video. But anyway, I would assume

1371
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 2: that something between we have to fire this pedophile, which

1372
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 2: is how a lot of people on Twitter were acting.

1373
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 2: And nothing to see here, nothing wrong, Keep posting your content.

1374
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 2: This is what we need black teachers to be doing.

1375
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 2: I think there's a middle ground where you pull this

1376
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 2: dude into an office and you say, hey, man, maybe

1377
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 2: you cut down on the live streaming and the Instagram

1378
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 2: and the using the kids for your content. Okay, we

1379
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 2: saw a couple inappropriate posts on your stuff. We're as like,

1380
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 2: did you know this girl was sixteen when you posted that.

1381
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 2: He's gonna probably say no, whether he knew or not, right,

1382
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 2: I'm assuming he didn't know.

1383
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: Trying to give him benefit a doubt.

1384
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 2: Okay, this thing where the girl in the class is

1385
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 2: calling her big backed and all this shit, and you

1386
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 2: just set up there and said not my business and

1387
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 2: didn't really step in.

1388
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 3: And you want to be teaching this situation.

1389
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 1: You should have done something about that.

1390
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 2: Now, look, maybe the discipline doesn't need to be live

1391
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,439
Speaker 2: stream because maybe you shouldn't be fucking live streaming everything

1392
01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 2: in your class. But the point being you you need

1393
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 2: to be more focused on class and less on the content. Okay,

1394
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 2: And I would assume the teachers the school doesn't have

1395
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 2: the resources in time to review all this person's content

1396
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 2: before they post it. But this may have to be

1397
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 2: some type of policy or something that they have to

1398
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 2: start thinking about, because this is definitely a new reality,

1399
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 2: all this streaming shit, and so maybe somebody's gonna have

1400
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 2: to figure a way out to get some sort of

1401
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 2: guidelines around these rules. Because the other part of this

1402
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 2: that no one's thinking about is all these people influence

1403
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 2: other people, by which I mean there's some influencer that's

1404
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 2: a little less scrupulous who's watching this and going, wow,

1405
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 2: he got a lot of clicks off of that. I'm

1406
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 2: gonna post my pedicures. Now, I'm gonna post the massage.

1407
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:55,439
Speaker 2: I'm a post whatever, you know, like my inappropriate thing

1408
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 2: in the great area that get people talking that is

1409
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 2: not really inappropriate or is it.

1410
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: I can see a lot of that happening.

1411
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 2: So you have to almost point like you have to Yeah,

1412
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 2: you have to nip it in the bud early and

1413
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 2: be like, hey, no, no, we don't do that here.

1414
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 6: Uh.

1415
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 2: And I can't even imagine the other teachers and their

1416
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 2: feelings about some of the double standards of you know,

1417
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 2: whether it's an influencer teacher or just a person that

1418
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 2: does stuff like this, and you're like, well, why do

1419
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:25,640
Speaker 2: they do stuff like that?

1420
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 1: How are they not in trouble? You know what I mean?

1421
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, particularly if you're somebody that would go this

1422
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 3: ship don't seem appropriate and it don't seem right.

1423
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: Why is this even allowed?

1424
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 3: You know? And so I can guarantee you all across

1425
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 3: the country, particularly the United States, a lot of schools

1426
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 3: are gonna look at what is our policy on for

1427
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:48,640
Speaker 3: online like like what do we have permission slips? If

1428
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 3: we do, what do they say? Like they're gonna start

1429
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 3: going through that ship they when when they go back,

1430
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,919
Speaker 3: possibly in August, you know they're gonna have like meetings

1431
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 3: and ship like this, and you can't do this.

1432
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: You can't do that. By the way, all jobs need

1433
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 1: to start thinking about this.

1434
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 2: The internet and social media is here to stay and

1435
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,719
Speaker 2: everybody needs to start thinking about this shit. I don't

1436
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 2: like it when I look on fucking TikTok and see

1437
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 2: nurses dancing and shit and Niggas is on the ventilator

1438
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 2: in the background.

1439
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, man, what the fuck is happening?

1440
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 2: I would be livid, Like it's just your Your content

1441
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 2: creation can't be life for everybody, Like there's if it's

1442
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 2: if it's if you're gonna live that life, go live

1443
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 2: that life. Yeah, but if you're gonna be content creating

1444
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 2: on the clock, you just gotta understand ramifications come with that.

1445
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 2: Apple says now even now, even I listen to not

1446
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 2: Like Us, it's a great song.

1447
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 7: Uh.

1448
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 2: Brooklyn Shoeba says, I enjoyed the show so much I

1449
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:39,799
Speaker 2: had to watch on YouTube.

1450
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 1: Just see your mom get a life to not like us?

1451
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 2: Respectfully, Miss Morrow looks stunning, flowerless skin, lipstick popping glasses,

1452
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 2: fashionable as fuck, giving me motivation to keep exercise and

1453
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 2: stay hydrated so I could look like her when.

1454
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm super grown.

1455
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 2: Absolutely, my mom was telling us yesterday she do hot

1456
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 2: yoga three times a week. Yes, it's like y'all should

1457
01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 2: come with me. I'm like, I'm not gonna pass out.

1458
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 2: Ken rig versus Drake is the beef is the gift

1459
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 2: that keeps on giving. I'm a public librarian. I work

1460
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 2: strictly with children.

1461
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: And teens for nineteen years until I was promoted the manager.

1462
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 2: With some kids, you develop a deeper bond, almost apparent

1463
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 2: child relationship, regardless of gender. Middle schoolers don't get as

1464
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 2: much paternal physical affection as they did when they were younger.

1465
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 2: And I think helping the teacher with their hair was

1466
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 2: a kid helping the dad shave or mom take out

1467
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 2: her hair pins. It's intimate but not sexual. If that

1468
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 2: makes sense, I think that can make sense. I think

1469
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 2: one of the things that is missing from that analysis

1470
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 2: is that these kids coming from the backgrounds.

1471
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 1: They're coming from.

1472
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 2: If they're not getting that maternal paternal physical affection, another

1473
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 2: adult that is not a parent stepping in to give

1474
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 2: them physical affection is a grey area.

1475
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: How does the parent a mom feel about that? You

1476
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying?

1477
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 3: Like I say, adults in their lives feel about it.

1478
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 2: Right, I understand, and is intimate and intimate doesn't always

1479
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 2: mean sexual, but it doesn't always not mean sexual.

1480
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 1: Agreed. So, and we know we live in a society

1481
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 1: that is very weird with those lines.

1482
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 2: And what happens is when we have these discussions we

1483
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 2: like to separate, like no, we live in a perfect

1484
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 2: society now where everyone understands.

1485
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,640
Speaker 1: We're talking about kids. Kids don't always understand, you know,

1486
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 1: they're some.

1487
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,959
Speaker 3: Adults tell showing you that they don't understand themselves.

1488
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and when he's when he's saying even kids that

1489
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:35,759
Speaker 2: aren't in his class, like I said, I paid attention

1490
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 2: to this ship when he said kids that aren't even

1491
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 2: in his class, the other teachers will let those little

1492
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 2: girls out early so they can come over to his

1493
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 2: class and do his hair. That doesn't that's to me,

1494
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 2: that's no longer dislike, well, I just very have developed

1495
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 2: very deep bonds with all these children.

1496
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 3: It's not like a social pressure.

1497
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:58,799
Speaker 2: That's like a weird that's a weird gray area. It's

1498
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 2: no longer the thing that we would like it to be.

1499
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 2: You know, maybe he has a super special bond with

1500
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 2: all the kids regardless of a class to in. But

1501
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 2: it just starts to feel like, I don't know, bro,

1502
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 2: And I really do wonder if the parents know that,

1503
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 2: because not all the parents, regardless of their relationship with

1504
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 2: their kids, want other adults providing the physical affection as

1505
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 2: you put in there in that way, especially when we're

1506
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 2: saying maternal paternal physical affection. Not everybody knows how or

1507
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 2: when to give that or if they're giving that as well,

1508
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 2: and the kids don't necessarily know what's appropriate with those boundaries.

1509
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 1: So we depended on the adults to be the adults

1510
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 1: in there. Yes we are.

1511
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 3: You know.

1512
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 2: Sometimes you see a kid that needs something, you have

1513
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 2: to be like, I can't be the one to provide that.

1514
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 3: Yes, let me go through the right channel.

1515
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 1: There's some resources there. But I can't.

1516
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 2: I can't be everything. But you know, anyway, I never

1517
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 2: asked my library kids to do anything for me beyond

1518
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:56,799
Speaker 2: what could be deemed as appropriate.

1519
01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 3: Of course, yet right for I'm saying people talking, you go,

1520
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 3: I wouldn't do that, right, So, you know is the problem.

1521
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 3: If you ride up here and say I wouldn't do that,

1522
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 3: you know, it's a problem. It's something funky weed, It's

1523
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 3: a gray area. A line has been crossed for you

1524
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,599
Speaker 3: to specifically tell us this is not something I would

1525
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 3: not do myself.

1526
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 1: I think the problem with this teacher is that he

1527
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 1: turned it into content.

1528
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 2: Also, as a side note, my kiddo has her own

1529
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 2: father figure at high school, and she and her friends

1530
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 2: spend after school time in his classroom because they like

1531
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 2: his company, he gives them fatherly wisdom. However, it is

1532
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 2: a fifty year age GM it made difference. Maybe this's

1533
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:34,720
Speaker 2: our generational No, I think that's totally fine. I don't

1534
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 2: think you'll find a single person that if you put

1535
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 2: a video of little kids hanging out or just kids

1536
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 2: hanging out in a teacher's classroom after school, even if

1537
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 2: they're just hanging out talking and not even doing any schoolwork,

1538
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 2: zero people will be like, this guy's a pedophile.

1539
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 1: Get him off the school roster.

1540
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 2: That's one of the reasons that I'm not giving thee

1541
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 2: well it's a black man's excuse, because I'm like, no,

1542
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 2: that's not y'all know, that's not what people reacting to.

1543
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 1: No, it's not anti black. If those same girls were

1544
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 1: just in his.

1545
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:06,600
Speaker 2: Classroom and they were just kicking in and he was

1546
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:10,679
Speaker 2: just in there behind his desk doing whatever, zero people

1547
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 2: are mad.

1548
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 1: Zero I agreed. So I think posting it is definitely

1549
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: to me.

1550
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 2: The reason I point out posting it is because that's

1551
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 2: why I know even the people that are staunchly on his.

1552
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 1: Side will agree with me. Yeah, posting it was where

1553
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 1: he fucked up.

1554
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 2: We can all agree on back because we wouldn't even

1555
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 2: be arguing this shit if we didn't see it.

1556
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 1: That's why I'm concentrating on that. We go a step

1557
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:35,719
Speaker 1: further down.

1558
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 2: I also think it's a weird gray area that whether

1559
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 2: you post it or not, parents and stuff will probably feel.

1560
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 1: They could have issues about you allowing their child to

1561
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:47,640
Speaker 1: do that.

1562
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 2: And I would not be mad at those parents for

1563
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:53,680
Speaker 2: being like, I don't know you right, and I think

1564
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 2: this is not really something I would want my kid doing,

1565
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 2: And just because you allow them to do it doesn't

1566
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 2: mean I'm OA okay with it, And I wouldn't begrudge

1567
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 2: any parent that was like, cut that shit out. My

1568
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 2: kid's not doing your hair, she's not paying your nails,

1569
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 2: she's not doing your manicure or whatever.

1570
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 1: The fuck you know. This isn't y'all going out and

1571
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 1: everybody plays softball together.

1572
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, my child is here to learn the fuck is

1573
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 3: this and why they're doing labor.

1574
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 2: Or like I said, even if it's uh, even if

1575
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 2: I can find reasons for even if it's labor, like hey,

1576
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 2: we had a school car wash. Okay, Okay, I don't

1577
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 2: give fuck like y'all you know you know that I

1578
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 2: know this is a kind of a gray area, and

1579
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 2: it's different because of the touching.

1580
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 1: You know that.

1581
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 2: So now you're gonna turn me into a fucking weirdo,

1582
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 2: like I'm tripping. But this is how a lot of

1583
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 2: style shit starts, when people start fucking with boundaries and

1584
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:44,759
Speaker 2: then they be like and then and now I look stupid.

1585
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 3: You know what.

1586
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,640
Speaker 2: It's funny y'all bring this up too, because I was

1587
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 2: I watched that HBO Quiet on Set or something like

1588
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 2: that with nickelode and a lot of the stuff that started,

1589
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:01,679
Speaker 2: they never started with stuff that was just blatant abuse.

1590
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 1: It all started with great area stuff.

1591
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:08,600
Speaker 2: What is happening is you you can And one of

1592
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 2: the parents, this father, he felt so bad because his

1593
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 2: child was abused and he basically lost his contact with

1594
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 2: his child and everything because this coach came between him

1595
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 2: and his child. And the coach didn't start doing anything

1596
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 2: abusive until the father was basically out of the picture.

1597
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 2: But the way they got the father out of the

1598
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 2: picture is because the coach was doing great areas shit

1599
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 2: stuff that a parent's.

1600
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,639
Speaker 1: Supposed to do. Oh, I'll drive the kid to the audition.

1601
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 2: Oh you can stay at my house for the night

1602
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 2: or whatever, and it's like, it's not technically it's a

1603
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 2: you know, it's a non traditional workplace.

1604
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 1: He is the coach kids coach.

1605
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 2: It's not technically anything abusive about him doing that stuff.

1606
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 2: And once the father was out of the picture, that's

1607
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 2: when the coach really started doing that kind of stuff

1608
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 2: and being like, I'm just helping the mom out and

1609
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 2: have more access to the child, and then the touching

1610
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,719
Speaker 2: and all this type of inappropriate stuff starts.

1611
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:04,759
Speaker 1: That's not necessarily sexual, but it is intimate.

1612
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 2: It's not necessarily abuse, and then of course the abuse starts,

1613
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 2: and it's like I dread the feeling for the parent,

1614
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 2: the child, and everyone except for that coach because there

1615
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 2: were steps that were happening the whole time that were

1616
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 2: great area steps that you just would have felt like

1617
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 2: an asshole to stop in between your kid and their

1618
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 2: dream and be like, Hey, I don't know this guy

1619
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 2: and know you might not be able to go to

1620
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 2: the audition because I don't have time to take you

1621
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 2: and you're not gonna get this opportunity.

1622
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 1: You're gonna hate me right now.

1623
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 2: But I'd rather do that than have this person who

1624
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 2: I don't know that well, having you stay over the

1625
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 2: house for the night. I don't know them like that,

1626
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 2: and I'm sure there are parents that did that and

1627
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 2: their kids probably resented them at the time, but maybe

1628
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 2: now they're going therefore the grace of God go out,

1629
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 2: because that's sometimes what being a parent is. It's not

1630
01:17:56,920 --> 01:18:01,600
Speaker 2: always a clean line, and I think those parents that

1631
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 2: and it's not their fault, but those parents that didn't

1632
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 2: step in probably feel will regret that for the rest

1633
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 2: of their lives that they didn't trust because they didn't

1634
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 2: because in the documentary they do talk about how they

1635
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,559
Speaker 2: felt uneasy, but they didn't trust.

1636
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:15,639
Speaker 1: They weren't They talked themselves out of it, because it's

1637
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 1: just gray.

1638
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 2: Area stuff, right anyway, And once again, I'm never not

1639
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 2: accusing this guy of abuse. I'm just saying I see

1640
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 2: why people see gray areas and intense up. Not to

1641
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 2: mention many of us that our adults went through this

1642
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 2: stuff when we were kids. Many of many of us

1643
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 2: have been abused, many of us have had inappropriate things

1644
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 2: happen with adults. Many of us have had the gray

1645
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 2: area stuff crossed, and so that informs some of the Oh,

1646
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 2: when I look at this, I don't feel right. I'm

1647
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 2: not saying it makes it true, but it's like, this

1648
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 2: is why when we say it's projecting, some of the

1649
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 2: projections come from people that are like but that was.

1650
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 1: Done to me, right, That's how it started. Yeah, I

1651
01:18:58,479 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 1: mean I.

1652
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:01,520
Speaker 2: Would imagine all of us have a story about inappropriate

1653
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:03,679
Speaker 2: people that were older than us when we was coming

1654
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 2: up period. I would imagine one hundred percent of us too,

1655
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 2: So I know for me it was we had had

1656
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 2: There was a guy that was a manager at Wendy's

1657
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:19,680
Speaker 2: when I was fifteen or sixteen, and I was they

1658
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 2: I didn't have a license yet and we had to

1659
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 2: go train at this other Wendy.

1660
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 1: So they would drive us to to like Huntersville.

1661
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 2: And shit, and we'd all, you know, the whole crew

1662
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 2: would be in a van and I'd be listening to

1663
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 2: my motherfucking Common. They'd be listening to Biggie and they asked,

1664
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 2: throw my tape in and they get mad and give

1665
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:39,640
Speaker 2: it back, Like I was like, Nigga, I didn't tell

1666
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 2: y'all listen to that shit.

1667
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 1: I like Common. Anyway. I remember one time they were

1668
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 1: dropping us off.

1669
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 2: It was at night because now you know, we've worked

1670
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 2: all day, smell like hamburgers, and I was like the

1671
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 2: last one to get dropped off this one particular night,

1672
01:19:58,080 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 2: and this dude's.

1673
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 1: Like, oh, you a big one, ain't you You?

1674
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 2: You know you can't how And I'm like, nigga, you know,

1675
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 2: I'm sixteen or whatever because I'm fucking I work.

1676
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 1: We work. You're driving me to work, right, because I'm

1677
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 1: not an adult.

1678
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 2: And I remember he like put his hand on my

1679
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 2: leg to be like like like, yeah, you know you're

1680
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 2: kind of strong or whatever, and I was just like, yeah,

1681
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 2: this is my house right here, and I just got out.

1682
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 2: It wasn't even my house. I walked like another couple

1683
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 2: of blocks to get home. I've never told my parents

1684
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 2: about this. Sorry, if my mom was listening. It was

1685
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 2: like it was just inappropriate. He and I and I

1686
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 2: did like tell him like hey, I don't play.

1687
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 1: Like that or whatever, and just got out. I ended up,

1688
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:38,720
Speaker 1: you know, working that job.

1689
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 2: Nothing else inappropriate necessarily happened in that fashion. He would

1690
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 2: say flirty stuff with all the people there.

1691
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:51,480
Speaker 1: He ended up uh dating one of the other managers

1692
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 1: there who was like an openly gay dude. Well I

1693
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 1: say openly gay. He was gay, but I wouldn't. I

1694
01:20:58,479 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: guess he couldn't really be open at a time.

1695
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 2: Anyway, they broke up and that, and they had like

1696
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 2: a very tumultuous breakup that was really fucked up and

1697
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 2: ship and the dude was crying at the manager he

1698
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 2: broke up, was crying at working shit all the time,

1699
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 2: and he had a hard time because a lot of

1700
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 2: the dudes there were picking on him for being gay,

1701
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:19,680
Speaker 2: and they would do all this mimicking his mannerisms and

1702
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 2: all this shit. I didn't participate in that stuff, not

1703
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 2: just not because I was like so woke and all that.

1704
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 2: I just always there was something inside of me that

1705
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:29,680
Speaker 2: always felt like that shit was inappropriate.

1706
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 3: Email. I don't know why, why are we doing this? Right?

1707
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 1: Yeah? And I'm not saying that.

1708
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 2: I'm sure that on some level I've contributed to made

1709
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 2: jokes about shit like that when I was a kid.

1710
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 2: I'm not like I said, it's not so because I said, brothers, listen.

1711
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 2: I just was like, oh, this feels like we're bullying

1712
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 2: our manager. And he was our manager. So like, making

1713
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 2: my manager cry work to me at a job always

1714
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 2: felt weird. But the manager above him, the one that

1715
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 2: was in a pro towards me and he so I

1716
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 2: ended up leaving the job or whatever because the school starts.

1717
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:12,760
Speaker 2: I come back to get my last check and one

1718
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 2: of the homies I used to work there. I won't

1719
01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 2: say his name just because it's his business, but he

1720
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 2: wasn't there anymore. And the other home he was there

1721
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 2: when I came to get my last check and shit

1722
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 2: and turned them out. You know, my uniform, because god forbid,

1723
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 2: I have a Wendy shirt. You know how coveted those motherfuckers.

1724
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 1: Are, right.

1725
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 2: And so the dude that I knew was like, yo,

1726
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 2: you heard what happened to blank? And I said nah,

1727
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 2: And he's like, well, the manager, let's call him.

1728
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 1: Let's call him Scott.

1729
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 2: The manager Scott took him, took this other dude to

1730
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:52,959
Speaker 2: a hotel and gave him a bunch of wine coolers,

1731
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 2: tried to get him drunk and have sex with him.

1732
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 2: And the dude, who's like sixteen, basically escaped out of

1733
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 2: the tho of the hotel and left. But they ended

1734
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 2: up firing the manager, and then the dude, the kid

1735
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 2: that was my age, stopped coming to work right now.

1736
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 2: Once again, that wasn't with me. There was never a

1737
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 2: time that Scott really crossed the line and to any

1738
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 2: level of like what I would consider a salt. Matter

1739
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 2: of fact, it wasn't a hand on my leg. It

1740
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 2: was a hand on my shoulder, and he was saying,

1741
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 2: you're kind of strong.

1742
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 1: And all this shit.

1743
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 2: It never really like if I would have went to

1744
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:29,680
Speaker 2: HRF that shit whatever, be like what the fuck are

1745
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 2: you talking about? Like we'll tell him to stop, you know,

1746
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 2: or whatever, like it's just and he could have easily

1747
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:36,600
Speaker 2: been like, it's just a misunderstanding.

1748
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 1: I touched his shoulder. I don't know why. I don't know.

1749
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 2: I guess he's just homophobic or something. I wasn't trying

1750
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 2: to come on to him at all. Blah blah blah.

1751
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 2: But the point being, once the stuff happened with Scott

1752
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 2: and this other dude, all of a sudden, everybody got

1753
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 2: the fucking inappropriate gray area story of like, well he

1754
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 2: was always doing this and always doing that, and so

1755
01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 2: people's intuition is informed.

1756
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 1: By a lot of that history, which we know is

1757
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 1: rampant in our society.

1758
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 2: So while I won't go as far as calling this

1759
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 2: dude whatever the shit people were saying on Twitter, I

1760
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 2: think is too far.

1761
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna push back and be like no, completely fine,

1762
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 1: what the Fuck's wrong with y'all. Because I don't know

1763
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 1: this nigga and he's the one that made the content

1764
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 1: out of it, we can easily be looking back and

1765
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 1: be like, oh, yeah, absolutely this shit was wrong. But

1766
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 1: it'll only be once something real fucked up happens that

1767
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:31,799
Speaker 1: we even can have those thoughts without it being considered

1768
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 1: anti black whatever.

1769
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, I get it all right, Even he

1770
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 2: says love with Mama Tips on the show So funny.

1771
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 2: This Kendrick versus Avory beef is on the scale that

1772
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:46,639
Speaker 2: I've never seen before. Even the the most known rap

1773
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,640
Speaker 2: beefs like Nas versus jay Z are pretty much staycritating

1774
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 2: the hip hop fans. I go as far to say

1775
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 2: that even the Biggie Tupac beef spilled over to the

1776
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,639
Speaker 2: mainstream until they were both killed. But this has crossed

1777
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 2: musical genres, multiple media outlets, even in other countries. I

1778
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:02,640
Speaker 2: just know Auby's stomach hurts. He's the laughing stock of

1779
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 2: the entire world right now. My friend who just got

1780
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 2: back from Italy said they were blasting BBL drizzy over there,

1781
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 2: and you know what, I'm here for every single joke

1782
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 2: running them up because I'm a messy I'm messy, and

1783
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 2: I'm not a shamed ad minute.

1784
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 1: Uh. The fact that the teacher can't see why.

1785
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:18,600
Speaker 2: Those girls doing his hair and the classroom is inappropriate

1786
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:20,679
Speaker 2: is probably why he shouldn't be a teacher. The power

1787
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 2: dynamics alone make this kind of weird.

1788
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 1: He's at work. It's the ones who labeled themselves the

1789
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:27,680
Speaker 1: cool teacher is the ones you have to look out for. Yeah,

1790
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 1: the fact that one of his excuses was I guess

1791
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 1: y'all never had a cool teacher.

1792
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 3: Bitches, I've had a cool teacher before.

1793
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 1: Bro, what the fuck do that mean? What the fuck

1794
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 1: do that even mean? You decided?

1795
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 3: I mean and you a teacher?

1796
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:46,560
Speaker 1: So and I've had a cool teacher before. No, we

1797
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 1: didn't do his hair right.

1798
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 3: And the thing you a teacher, you don't give You

1799
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 3: should not give a fuck about if the students think,

1800
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 3: but in place that a lot of them don't want

1801
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 3: to be in there. The job obligation job is.

1802
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:01,639
Speaker 1: Not to be the cool teacher. Teacher.

1803
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 2: Now, look, I'm not saying you can't be a cool teacher,

1804
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:06,560
Speaker 2: but one as an adult, we all know people that

1805
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 2: say they cool are one hundred percent of the time

1806
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 2: never cool. And it is the same part that is,

1807
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 2: I've had cool teachers before, and this is not the

1808
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:18,920
Speaker 2: only way of being a cool teacher.

1809
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 1: You know. I've had the cool teacher that played basketball.

1810
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:24,920
Speaker 1: We all had that teacher. We all had that teacher.

1811
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,720
Speaker 2: Tommy d says, NPR was advertising story that they were

1812
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 2: about the premiere about.

1813
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 1: Texas oil lines and distribution.

1814
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 2: What do you think the background music for the ad

1815
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 2: was not like us Even National Public Radio is throwing

1816
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 2: it out here, and DJ said, as Karen would say,

1817
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 2: Oh no, PSDA ninety five says old teacher here. I've

1818
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 2: teaching the fine arts department at middle of high school levels.

1819
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 2: I've got a varity actions to the situation with the

1820
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 2: male teacher, and then she has seven points. I should

1821
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 2: have known when we brought up a teacher, all the

1822
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 2: teachers were gonna have a lot of elaborate points because

1823
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 2: y'all are teachers.

1824
01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 1: Of course, it's organized constructed art all together, whether you're

1825
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 1: four against. I haven't read an argument that I'm like,

1826
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 1: oh wow, they didn't think about that. Y'all thought about.

1827
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:11,760
Speaker 3: Gonna have comma semicolons, like it's all gonna be in there.

1828
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:14,040
Speaker 1: Just because I don't agree. Don't mean y'all motherfucker's just

1829
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:14,639
Speaker 1: put some shit.

1830
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 3: No, you're a teacher, that's what y'all do.

1831
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:19,720
Speaker 2: One when I started teaching, we were told we were

1832
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 2: not allowed to teach our students privately because we could

1833
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 2: not make money off them. However, these TikTok teachers are

1834
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:25,559
Speaker 2: monetizing the students.

1835
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 1: Absolute is really important too.

1836
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 2: There're some amazing educators that use TikTok to demonstrate standards

1837
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 2: in new ways, to act out skits about school, using

1838
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 2: adults to encourage other educators. We've all that's the other

1839
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 2: thing we've all seen online teacher content.

1840
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 1: This is not a I saw black men.

1841
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 2: That's not that's not what people are doing, because we've

1842
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 2: seen black men doing other corny shit like high fives

1843
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 2: and flips and ship.

1844
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 1: When the kids each come in.

1845
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 2: I call it corny, but it's I'm sure it's cool

1846
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:58,600
Speaker 2: to the kids and the teacher in the environment, and

1847
01:27:58,640 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 2: it's still professional with you.

1848
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:00,679
Speaker 1: Know, it's fine.

1849
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 2: But y'all know what I'm talking about, Like a fucking

1850
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 2: NBA starting lineup and the motherfuckers like.

1851
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 1: Doing like oh and then this when we do this.

1852
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we know that there's content that teachers put

1853
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 3: out the air that don't cross any of these.

1854
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:17,599
Speaker 1: Dog I'm even on the side of the ig model.

1855
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 2: Teachers that I know for a fact just want to

1856
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:21,640
Speaker 2: show us their cakes, and they like, this is my

1857
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 2: outfit today I'm teaching school, and I'm like, cause you

1858
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 2: got a big ass, It's fine.

1859
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:28,880
Speaker 1: I'm not one of these uptight motherfuckers.

1860
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 3: Right, but you the only money and the pictures. A

1861
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 3: lot of times there's no student.

1862
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:35,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like on once again, teacher content ain't the problem.

1863
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'll feel you on that. Three Some like

1864
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 2: this guy show everything. What's understood in your classroom in

1865
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:43,599
Speaker 2: school will very likely not be understood about the whole world.

1866
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 2: Much like Jurassic part They don't stop to think if

1867
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 2: they should post. They just post for content. They lack

1868
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 2: the wisdom to know what to share right. For I've

1869
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 2: had some kids that I grew close to, family kids

1870
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 2: and the families I've had those kids help me take

1871
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 2: my braids out before my appointment because I really suck

1872
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 2: at it. This happened at lunch or at the school.

1873
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:02,599
Speaker 2: I did not record it, definitely didn't post. It still

1874
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 2: have bombs those younger those to this day some fifteen to.

1875
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 1: Twenty years later.

1876
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 2: I totally think that it's possible, and I think the

1877
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 2: fact that you didn't post it is that's very helpful,

1878
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 2: and especially not posting it with the caption of.

1879
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:17,680
Speaker 1: Like let's fight.

1880
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 2: You know what I mean to five? This outrage from

1881
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:22,679
Speaker 2: some has me question the role of gender in the situation.

1882
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 2: My male principal had a male student come out of

1883
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 2: class to cut his hair, post it on social media.

1884
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 1: No problems, no outrage.

1885
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 2: So I guess what I need to know? Did this

1886
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 2: principle cut the student's hair? Did the student cut the

1887
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 2: principal's hair? Because I would need to know that. I

1888
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 2: would also need to know that they posted on social

1889
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 2: So I need I have more questions about that. And

1890
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 2: gender definitely plays a role, but it's playing a double

1891
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 2: role here, and I think we need to acknowledge both

1892
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:52,720
Speaker 2: sides of that role.

1893
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 1: On the one hand, it.

1894
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:58,240
Speaker 2: Is the inherent male privilege of here is a black man,

1895
01:29:58,320 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 2: we must protect them at all costs.

1896
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:03,440
Speaker 1: We don't have very many black male teachers and role models.

1897
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:07,519
Speaker 2: So there is an almost extended level of loyalty that

1898
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 2: he is giving. Where you know, as that person who

1899
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:12,280
Speaker 2: wrote there earlier is like maybe he's paying the kids.

1900
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 2: Maybe it's because he has such a great like we're

1901
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:18,599
Speaker 2: giving him a lot off of that. There is also

1902
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:23,559
Speaker 2: the fact that there are girls only doing this guy's

1903
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 2: hair in this video, and with everything we know about patriarchy,

1904
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:36,160
Speaker 2: about abuse, about grooming and all of that stuff, it

1905
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 2: is very genderized, is very sexual.

1906
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 1: If he technically had five boys.

1907
01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:44,960
Speaker 2: Doing his hair, there would still be outrage, but some

1908
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 2: of the outrage would just be homophobia. Yeah, so like

1909
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 2: genders absolutely playing a role. I just don't think it's

1910
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:54,560
Speaker 2: playing the role of just like swooping one way or

1911
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 2: swooping the other way. Some of its protects him and

1912
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:01,920
Speaker 2: some of it damns him, you know. So, like I said,

1913
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 2: I think if this was a woman letting girls take

1914
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 2: out her hair, you'd get some people mad, but it

1915
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:10,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't be the same kind of mad, and it wouldn't

1916
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 2: be as many people mad because that is as.

1917
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:14,360
Speaker 1: A gender thing.

1918
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 2: That is a thing where people feel more safe with, oh,

1919
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 2: a girl taking out a woman's hair.

1920
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:22,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna assume there's no abuse there.

1921
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 5: Now.

1922
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:26,599
Speaker 1: Once again, why is that? Why do people feel that way?

1923
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:30,040
Speaker 2: That is very informed by the societal context of how

1924
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 2: a lot of structured abuse happens, a lot of how

1925
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 2: privilege happens, a lot of who makes up the majority

1926
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:38,640
Speaker 2: of predators. We single out that there are women who

1927
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 2: are predators, especially praying on young boys in school, but

1928
01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:44,320
Speaker 2: we also single them out because they are the vast

1929
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:45,840
Speaker 2: minority of predators.

1930
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 1: It's like when we single out women who murder.

1931
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 2: Yes we are yes a woman did murder somebody, But

1932
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:55,280
Speaker 2: if we just made a TV show called killing women,

1933
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 2: it'll never run out of episode never, you know what

1934
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:02,640
Speaker 2: I mean. So like there's some societal context that all

1935
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 2: this is in six I know of a teacher that

1936
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 2: has a huge following. Everything is good until it Hey

1937
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 2: videos posted while wearing the school ID District ID school

1938
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 2: shirts to hold nine question more content, questionable situations recorded

1939
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:15,760
Speaker 2: during the school day instead of teaching, tell kids that

1940
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 2: y'all gotta do something, I gotta put.

1941
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 1: Up some content. Very check the FVRPA list.

1942
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:23,000
Speaker 2: Never check the fvr p A list to see if

1943
01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:25,519
Speaker 2: children are listed on the do not post list for

1944
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 2: their picks and names. No problems until very recently not

1945
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:32,599
Speaker 2: everything's being reviewed with a fine tooth, can t yep yep?

1946
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 3: And that's the thing. Everybody's okay until it's not. And

1947
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:39,560
Speaker 3: on top of that, a lot of is like you

1948
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:43,360
Speaker 3: saying they are children that parents are like, don't post

1949
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:46,519
Speaker 3: my child for various different reasons. A lot of times

1950
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:50,559
Speaker 3: people don't date this consideration. You have people that are

1951
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:54,120
Speaker 3: running away from abusive relationships and they don't want their

1952
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:56,599
Speaker 3: mate to know where their child is, what school district

1953
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:58,880
Speaker 3: their child is in, and shit like this, and you

1954
01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 3: and you know you post their child. Now avel of

1955
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 3: a sudden, they got to move. You know, people go

1956
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:05,439
Speaker 3: through the extent of changing their names and all types

1957
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:07,240
Speaker 3: of shit to get away from a pu's like, nobody

1958
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:09,840
Speaker 3: ever thinks about that shit that could go wrong until

1959
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:11,920
Speaker 3: it goes wrong. Now all of a sudden, you got

1960
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:15,960
Speaker 3: the school system that's liable for being sued by basically

1961
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:18,760
Speaker 3: breaking rules because the parents are like, hey, don't post,

1962
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:22,000
Speaker 3: don't post anything about my child online.

1963
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:26,000
Speaker 2: Right, And like I said, it's the Internet is social media.

1964
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:30,679
Speaker 2: There are really no rules, and it flips in a second.

1965
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 2: And that's one of the reasons that you cannot be

1966
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 2: so dedicated to that, like, oh, I just need to

1967
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:37,639
Speaker 2: make content out here, okay, But it only takes one

1968
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:39,920
Speaker 2: time for the content to be crazy one time and

1969
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:42,719
Speaker 2: even or just even misunderstood. And now you're at the folks,

1970
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 2: you're at a tornado that is all coming down on you,

1971
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:49,439
Speaker 2: whether you meant well or not. Seven the teachers who

1972
01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:51,479
Speaker 2: are well seasons are considered to be old fashioned, out

1973
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:53,759
Speaker 2: of touch. Yeah, until your tail gets escorted off camist

1974
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:55,920
Speaker 2: by police. I wanted to share that view from inside school.

1975
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:57,840
Speaker 1: Love y'all. Thank you, psdev right.

1976
01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 3: And you're looking like mount post shit. Yeah, you know,

1977
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:03,080
Speaker 3: you know, for a lot of teachers, it would not

1978
01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:08,720
Speaker 3: be surprising if a lot of teachers this, like you say,

1979
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 3: partners their conviction on adult This is why I don't

1980
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 3: do that bullshit. Like for a lot of them, they're like,

1981
01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:16,920
Speaker 3: I don't do it, I don't post it. I'm not

1982
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:19,559
Speaker 3: participating in it because I don't want any of these

1983
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:22,759
Speaker 3: problems unless it's something that the school is like directly

1984
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 3: involved in. I don't want to be a part of it.

1985
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:27,800
Speaker 3: And like you say, a lot of those teachers are

1986
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 3: considered out of touch of shit like this, But they

1987
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:31,639
Speaker 3: were like, hey, ain't nobody elsecoring me off of campus?

1988
01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:34,960
Speaker 2: DJ says another episode is always a good time when

1989
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:37,519
Speaker 2: Mama Tills don't have belated Mother's Day. Reading some of

1990
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:39,559
Speaker 2: the comments brought back memories of a teacher in grade

1991
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 2: school I went to. I'll kind of get what educated

1992
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 2: the friends are saying about relating differently than what the

1993
01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 2: model tells us, because my teacher in that school, all black,

1994
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 2: only one white, did treat us as a community. Some

1995
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 2: invited us parents always included, to their homes for a cookout,

1996
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:54,839
Speaker 2: the third grade teacher to his wedding, and we attended

1997
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:56,720
Speaker 2: most of the funerals when they pass They were never

1998
01:34:56,840 --> 01:35:00,720
Speaker 2: inappropriate called us friends. Even then, that professortional boundary was

1999
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 2: still there. None of our teachers touched or as much

2000
01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:04,600
Speaker 2: as looked at us inappropriately.

2001
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:07,479
Speaker 1: Most were older. I think the youngest was thirties. They

2002
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:08,880
Speaker 1: actually were allowed to spank us.

2003
01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:11,519
Speaker 2: You couldn't even attend if your parents didn't sign off

2004
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:14,880
Speaker 2: on that one. So place that where you will, Yeah,

2005
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:17,559
Speaker 2: I grew up where in the South, and the principal

2006
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:18,679
Speaker 2: was allowed to give you a spanking.

2007
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:22,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and something and something important. You said that the

2008
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:26,720
Speaker 3: students and teachers, like everybody was there. The parents, Yeah,

2009
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:29,720
Speaker 3: the parents and so the parents physically being there that

2010
01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 3: shit matters.

2011
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:32,639
Speaker 1: And yeah, they don't need if the parents are there.

2012
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 2: This is also before streaming and social media, so they're

2013
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:39,240
Speaker 2: not going to be upset to find out something on

2014
01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:40,640
Speaker 2: social media about.

2015
01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 1: Their kids' face being attached to doing some teacher's hair,

2016
01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:44,120
Speaker 1: you know.

2017
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:48,760
Speaker 2: But also, once again, the professionalism, I think it does

2018
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:52,320
Speaker 2: matter the whole Like, yeah, and we weren't touching kids

2019
01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:53,599
Speaker 2: and they we weren't.

2020
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:55,600
Speaker 1: No one was looking at people inappropriately.

2021
01:35:56,960 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 2: Professionalism does there's a reason for it, right, Like it's

2022
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 2: not just some shit that just the white man put

2023
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:05,560
Speaker 2: in place to fuck with us, Like there is a

2024
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:11,679
Speaker 2: reason that environments have hr that environments have professional standards.

2025
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:13,880
Speaker 1: That you all watch the fucking training video. It's there's

2026
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:14,560
Speaker 1: a reason for it.

2027
01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:17,840
Speaker 2: Learning wise, I actually did better in this school than

2028
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 2: all the others, including the Catholic high school, all white,

2029
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:23,759
Speaker 2: one black. Also had a sixth grade teacher assistant invite

2030
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:25,960
Speaker 2: me and two others over to her home to break

2031
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 2: baked bread from scratch. Again, she was always professional, no

2032
01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 2: sense of weariness, touching or a line of cross and

2033
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 2: you still had that teacher position while up per se.

2034
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:36,719
Speaker 2: We had a blast and went home. If it adds anything,

2035
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 2: she immigrated from Ecuador and also had a sense of

2036
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 2: I'm strict. I'm the adult in this class. You are

2037
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 2: the student. We're not friends, but I'm part of your community.

2038
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 2: I'm here for you when you need me. Yeah, all

2039
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:50,680
Speaker 2: that is fine and appropriate. I think that's reasonable. And

2040
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 2: that's one of the reasons I'm not letting this story

2041
01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 2: turn into like so when a teacher tries to be nice, No,

2042
01:36:57,640 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 2: teachers have been nice. Teachers have done way more than

2043
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:03,200
Speaker 2: they should. Teachers are opening their fucking homes to us

2044
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:03,679
Speaker 2: as kids.

2045
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:05,919
Speaker 1: We do know the difference.

2046
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 2: There is a difference between uh, this all this teacher

2047
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:15,080
Speaker 2: is so cool, and this teacher is you know, got

2048
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 2: me in a situation where I'm doing some inappropriate stuff

2049
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:20,639
Speaker 2: or doing some gray area stuff that even as a kid,

2050
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:23,960
Speaker 2: I can't fully wrap my head around, right, I mean,

2051
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:25,920
Speaker 2: we all That's the other thing. All of us had

2052
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:28,479
Speaker 2: crush on a teacher at some point were kids.

2053
01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:32,000
Speaker 1: That's what kids do. You crush on your teacher. Hopefully

2054
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:32,959
Speaker 1: you got a teacher.

2055
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 2: That understands, well, this is a very professional space and

2056
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:41,080
Speaker 2: that I don't want to confuse a kid into that stuff.

2057
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:43,560
Speaker 1: And you know, and you and you're the one that

2058
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:45,599
Speaker 1: has to be responsible for it because you're the adult.

2059
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:49,559
Speaker 3: Right years ago, I had a buddy in mine who

2060
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 3: used to substitute for the school systems, and she was

2061
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:57,519
Speaker 3: substituting again one day and she was saying one of

2062
01:37:57,560 --> 01:37:59,720
Speaker 3: the students were bold enough to come up and ask

2063
01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:02,240
Speaker 3: her for her telephone number. She said, little boy, if

2064
01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:04,760
Speaker 3: you don't get out of my face, no, it would

2065
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:07,000
Speaker 3: just flat forward and straight way go. No, this is

2066
01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:08,679
Speaker 3: not appropriate. You need to get out my face.

2067
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 2: I remember we had this teacher in high school or

2068
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:15,880
Speaker 2: junior high and she looked like Holly Berry.

2069
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:18,479
Speaker 1: She was a black woman. She had a nice haircutt

2070
01:38:18,479 --> 01:38:21,000
Speaker 1: and shit, and all the young black boys at the

2071
01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:24,200
Speaker 1: school were in love with her. It would have been

2072
01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:26,240
Speaker 1: crazy for her to let us do her hair or

2073
01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:27,280
Speaker 1: some shit that would.

2074
01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:29,200
Speaker 2: Like I would have that would have been so irresponsible

2075
01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 2: for her on that behalf, because it's just you're the adult,

2076
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:34,760
Speaker 2: and you know what it was like to be a kid.

2077
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:37,880
Speaker 2: The kids don't fucking know no better, you know. So

2078
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:40,479
Speaker 2: it's just, you know, I think it's it's okay to

2079
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:43,240
Speaker 2: have boundaries. That's okay, that's part of the job.

2080
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:44,400
Speaker 1: Overall.

2081
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 2: I don't think the guy should have had to teach

2082
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:48,479
Speaker 2: students touching him because of over our optics is bad

2083
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:51,320
Speaker 2: first off. Secondly highly appropriate to be calling them best

2084
01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:54,400
Speaker 2: friends just nope, and giving them personal numbers to just

2085
01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:55,679
Speaker 2: casually chat on whims.

2086
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 1: No, no, Surrey.

2087
01:38:57,320 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 2: He can't move me with the tears on that, I'll say,

2088
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:01,000
Speaker 2: as in a sund if a student had a bad

2089
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:03,920
Speaker 2: situation at home and has a teacher they've been talking

2090
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:08,040
Speaker 2: to about it and takes their number in case is

2091
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:10,080
Speaker 2: hits the fan, and they're only calling in that one

2092
01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:12,720
Speaker 2: emergency to get out because it's scared to call the

2093
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:14,240
Speaker 2: police on their parents and themselves.

2094
01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:17,800
Speaker 1: I was I and have no other family to call.

2095
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:18,640
Speaker 1: I say okay to that.

2096
01:39:19,160 --> 01:39:21,280
Speaker 2: Rather, the kid has one adult they can call for help.

2097
01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:23,200
Speaker 2: I also don't agree with him recording the post and

2098
01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:25,960
Speaker 2: making no content, then recording the crime and reading the

2099
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:27,200
Speaker 2: text for additional content.

2100
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:30,520
Speaker 1: That's fireable part to me, Yeah, I can't even imagine.

2101
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:32,920
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine if you're the people that pulled

2102
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 1: him into the office to talk to him and then

2103
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:38,080
Speaker 1: his first reaction is to go back on social media

2104
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:42,600
Speaker 1: crying and shit, Yeah, I can't because.

2105
01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:45,080
Speaker 2: Clearly they had talked to him. Yes, that's why he

2106
01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 2: made the video, But like if he's in the video

2107
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:49,599
Speaker 2: doing that. I would I don't know how I would

2108
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:52,000
Speaker 2: trust this person to be able to actually just stick

2109
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:53,000
Speaker 2: to doing their job.

2110
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:55,519
Speaker 3: Yes, and not your funny who knows what was said

2111
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:59,479
Speaker 3: in that? And if we had the conversation, I guarantee

2112
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:01,400
Speaker 3: it wouldn't be you surprised. That's part of this conversation

2113
01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:04,720
Speaker 3: was like, stop fucking posting content. Some part of that

2114
01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 3: conversation had to be that, like, hey, doll, you got

2115
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:11,400
Speaker 3: to stop posting content of your students and you cry

2116
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 3: and posting the content reading text that you got from

2117
01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:16,719
Speaker 3: the students, and they're gonna be like, hey, who knows

2118
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:20,639
Speaker 3: if he told them about those? And so they hey doll, nah, no, no, nah,

2119
01:40:20,720 --> 01:40:23,120
Speaker 3: that's shit. You should have told us, but you didn't

2120
01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:25,559
Speaker 3: tell us. You're putting this online for content. We're finding

2121
01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:28,000
Speaker 3: out after the fact. I could see them, like you say,

2122
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:29,920
Speaker 3: doing the route of ay, let's sit down, let's talk

2123
01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:33,320
Speaker 3: about this, Let's have a conversation. And you, as an adult,

2124
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:36,640
Speaker 3: are not mature enough to take the chastisement because my

2125
01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:39,800
Speaker 3: thing is either you a content creator. You're not in

2126
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:42,360
Speaker 3: his situation because his thing is I want to be

2127
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:46,679
Speaker 3: a content creator, teacher, second, and so if that's the case,

2128
01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 3: go be a content creator.

2129
01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:48,760
Speaker 1: Right.

2130
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:52,960
Speaker 2: But she goes on to say or they go on

2131
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:58,760
Speaker 2: to say, DJ goes on to say, uh oh, yeah,

2132
01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:01,760
Speaker 2: you can be a cool teacher without all the mess

2133
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:02,240
Speaker 2: he's doing.

2134
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:04,719
Speaker 1: Miss Frizzle was a cool teacher. No hair touch in texting,

2135
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:06,679
Speaker 1: personal phone phone required.

2136
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:07,479
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2137
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 1: I also want to share this video that I think

2138
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:12,599
Speaker 1: sums it up pretty well.

2139
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:16,680
Speaker 2: You know, people can disagree, but I thought this was

2140
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:19,160
Speaker 2: a good one. Let me know if you can't hear it.

2141
01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 2: But I have the thing turned on, so you should

2142
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:26,960
Speaker 2: be at here. But this person posted a Ashton Crawley

2143
01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:28,840
Speaker 2: posted synopsis about it.

2144
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:30,840
Speaker 5: We're asking the wrong questions.

2145
01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:33,280
Speaker 8: But the teacher was reportedly fired for having a group

2146
01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:36,000
Speaker 8: of girls take down his brazen class. We're watching this video,

2147
01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:39,240
Speaker 8: we're asking our his intentions pure and is it too intimate?

2148
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:41,439
Speaker 8: But those are the wrong questions to ask, because we

2149
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:44,679
Speaker 8: can only answer them after somebody's been harmed. The questions

2150
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:47,200
Speaker 8: we need to be asking are what is being normalized

2151
01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:49,720
Speaker 8: by this interaction and what feelings might this interaction be

2152
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:52,320
Speaker 8: causing in the child. As a youth development professional, your

2153
01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:54,479
Speaker 8: intentions are irrelevant when you realize your job is to

2154
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:57,320
Speaker 8: model behavior that canon should be replicated by other people

2155
01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:00,000
Speaker 8: in your position. So what is being normalized by this interaction.

2156
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:04,280
Speaker 8: It's being live streamed physical touch and proximity, and it's

2157
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:06,479
Speaker 8: being normalized not only for the young people but for

2158
01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:10,040
Speaker 8: everybody watching, and that's important. At best, this interaction creates

2159
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:13,000
Speaker 8: a foundation for something called transference. Transference is when feelings

2160
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:15,800
Speaker 8: and desires get projected from one person to another based

2161
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:19,280
Speaker 8: on past relationships and unmet needs. Transference can create feelings

2162
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:21,600
Speaker 8: for a kid that are inappropriate and unproductive for a

2163
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:23,040
Speaker 8: teacher student relationship.

2164
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Speaker 5: So a young person who has.

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Speaker 8: Unmed needs for affection, attention, and validation might project feelings

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01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:30,360
Speaker 8: of admiration onto an adult who just introduce physical touch

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01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:33,000
Speaker 8: into their relationship. That in and of itself makes a

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01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:35,640
Speaker 8: young person more vulnerable or hard when those inappropriate expectations

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01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:38,640
Speaker 8: aren't met, if those inappropriate expectations are met, or if

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Speaker 8: they take those same boundaries into relationships with other adults.

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01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:44,839
Speaker 8: Inviting physical touch into a teacher student relationship creates furtiground

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01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 8: for grooming. That's the process of predator users to build

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01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:49,200
Speaker 8: trust an emotional connection with the young person they intend

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01:42:49,240 --> 01:42:52,759
Speaker 8: to manipulate, exploit, or harm, and they might use attention, affection, guidance,

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01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:54,880
Speaker 8: and special treatment to feel an emotional need from a

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01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:57,439
Speaker 8: kid's life. Then they'll be sensitize a young person to

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01:42:57,520 --> 01:43:00,680
Speaker 8: physical touch and sexual topics start and small and building up.

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01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:02,720
Speaker 8: All the while they're testing their boundaries to see how

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01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:04,880
Speaker 8: far they can push before a young person resists or

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01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:05,800
Speaker 8: someone speaks up.

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01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:08,120
Speaker 5: The entire time, there's plausible deniability.

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01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:10,200
Speaker 8: The point is to slowly push the boundaries and make

2183
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:13,599
Speaker 8: everybody involve question whether or not their suspicions are warranted.

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01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 5: The kid, the parents, the people around the kid.

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01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:17,880
Speaker 8: So something doesn't feel right, but you just can't put

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01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:19,840
Speaker 8: your finger on why, or it doesn't seem like a

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01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:20,320
Speaker 8: big deal.

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01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:22,400
Speaker 5: If it seems like a gray area but just not

2189
01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:25,000
Speaker 5: big enough to speak up about. That's the point.

2190
01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:27,880
Speaker 8: Making people question their own instincts means the victim and

2191
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:31,519
Speaker 8: the audience are groomed or prepared for the next step.

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01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:33,559
Speaker 8: So how can you tell the difference between someone who's

2193
01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:37,080
Speaker 8: unknowingly creating the conditions where transference might occur and someone

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01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:39,960
Speaker 8: who is grooming a young person and the people around

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01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:41,040
Speaker 8: them for abuse.

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01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:45,000
Speaker 5: You can't. If you could, kids would be a lot safer.

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Speaker 8: There are people who will say that this sort of

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01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:49,679
Speaker 8: interaction is necessary to build culturally response to relationships in school.

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01:43:50,280 --> 01:43:51,040
Speaker 3: Right you can't.

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01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:55,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think it goes on for a little bit.

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01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:55,840
Speaker 5: It's not.

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01:43:56,120 --> 01:43:58,880
Speaker 8: Cultural relevance and appropriateness come from the respect that teachers

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01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 8: have for young people, the content they present, and the

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01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:03,720
Speaker 8: way they present that content and culturally responsive ways. There

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01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:05,600
Speaker 8: are one hundred activities this teacher could have used to

2206
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:09,120
Speaker 8: engage his entire class and culturally relevant bonding. Instead of

2207
01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:11,320
Speaker 8: having a handful of girls take down his braids, it

2208
01:44:11,320 --> 01:44:13,400
Speaker 8: would have been more effective, more inclusive, and helped build

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01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:15,160
Speaker 8: their bondster one another in ways that are going to

2210
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:17,760
Speaker 8: benefit their classroom. He had an appointment to make, so

2211
01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:20,200
Speaker 8: he put his knees first. So in his video, I

2212
01:44:20,280 --> 01:44:22,840
Speaker 8: see a teacher normalizing the idea that his students will

2213
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:25,799
Speaker 8: provide care for him. Using physical touch provides no benefit

2214
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:27,920
Speaker 8: to the student teacher relationship that couldn't be achieved in

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01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:29,960
Speaker 8: more effective ways, And if we let it slide, it

2216
01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:33,000
Speaker 8: provides a much wider gray area for people who intend

2217
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:35,360
Speaker 8: to harm kids. Couple that with the fact that he

2218
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:37,760
Speaker 8: has another video where he answers the student's questions about

2219
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:39,639
Speaker 8: whether he prefers a pretty face or a big butt,

2220
01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:42,040
Speaker 8: another video where he comments on the girl's size, and

2221
01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:43,679
Speaker 8: another video where he shows that he can be alone

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01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:45,640
Speaker 8: with students for a prolonged period of time. And it

2223
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:48,479
Speaker 8: feels like we're being led down the path of escalating

2224
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:52,240
Speaker 8: inappropriateness and desensitization. It feels like young people are being

2225
01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:54,960
Speaker 8: taught to accept standards in an adult child relationship that

2226
01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 8: will put them at risk in the future. It feels

2227
01:44:57,600 --> 01:45:01,920
Speaker 8: like professional negligence or groomy I can't tell which, but

2228
01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:02,719
Speaker 8: it doesn't matter.

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01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:07,800
Speaker 1: It's unacceptable, and I think that it puts a button

2230
01:45:07,880 --> 01:45:10,600
Speaker 1: on that I really don't know that it could be

2231
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:14,320
Speaker 1: explaining any simpler than that, And I think that's what

2232
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:16,040
Speaker 1: a lot of us are feeling, even a we're not

2233
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:19,519
Speaker 1: having the perfect words to summarize it all up. But

2234
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:24,719
Speaker 1: the fact that it's an echo, now, what the fuck?

2235
01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:27,400
Speaker 2: Anyway, I'm sorry, guys, there's nothing I can do about

2236
01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:30,760
Speaker 2: the echo at this moment, but yeah, but the fact

2237
01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:33,840
Speaker 2: that we don't know whether whether it's intention or not.

2238
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:37,480
Speaker 2: And the biggest point he made was the modeling behavior

2239
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:40,439
Speaker 2: for other adults in their lives. So let's say you

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01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:43,479
Speaker 2: have good intentions and you're perfect and you would never

2241
01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:47,960
Speaker 2: cross any boundaries even if the child wouldn't understand or

2242
01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:54,160
Speaker 2: would let you, you're still modeling behavior for these other

2243
01:45:55,960 --> 01:45:58,759
Speaker 2: these other for other adults to come in and be like, Okay,

2244
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:02,200
Speaker 2: so there's a boundary this kid doesn't really understand. So

2245
01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:06,160
Speaker 2: and a teacher, part of the teacher's job is to

2246
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:08,280
Speaker 2: beat that role model that teaches you those things.

2247
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:11,639
Speaker 1: So anyway, this one, hey.

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01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:13,360
Speaker 2: Y'all, name is an important on a long time listener

2249
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:15,800
Speaker 2: and first time writer. I'm a Kansas resident. I accept

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01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:16,760
Speaker 2: all condulens is think.

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01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:19,679
Speaker 1: I think the main dude talked about in the article

2252
01:46:19,720 --> 01:46:24,080
Speaker 1: about Jackie Robinson's statue is Hispanic. His name is Ricky

2253
01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:28,559
Speaker 1: Aldrate or our direct knowing what I know about which tide,

2254
01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:30,400
Speaker 1: they were probably going to sell the scrap metal for

2255
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:33,400
Speaker 1: money for meth Well. I saw the picture of the guy.

2256
01:46:33,439 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 1: He looked white.

2257
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:36,880
Speaker 2: We're not playing a guinst the race. But that was

2258
01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:39,600
Speaker 2: my deduction based on the activity and last name. I

2259
01:46:39,680 --> 01:46:41,960
Speaker 2: could also be wrong. He could just be racist, even

2260
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:43,960
Speaker 2: though they were absolutely wrong. For still in the statue

2261
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:45,719
Speaker 2: or the picture or just the feet of the statue

2262
01:46:45,760 --> 01:46:47,880
Speaker 2: made me laugh. You don't have to read this part

2263
01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:50,519
Speaker 2: on the show, but if you don't want, but you're

2264
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:52,439
Speaker 2: more than welcome to. I started listening to you back

2265
01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:54,400
Speaker 2: at twenty eleven. I took a break several years ago

2266
01:46:54,439 --> 01:46:57,120
Speaker 2: because I was mostly scarred. I introduced my ex to

2267
01:46:57,200 --> 01:46:59,320
Speaker 2: y'all show. And this nigga was out here in the

2268
01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:03,000
Speaker 2: sex chat rooms using y'all name as its screen name,

2269
01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:06,640
Speaker 2: the black guy who tips. I couldn't believe what I

2270
01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:09,120
Speaker 2: was saying on type of tips?

2271
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:11,479
Speaker 1: Right? Was this black guy who just the tips?

2272
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:12,640
Speaker 3: Uh?

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01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:14,680
Speaker 2: Anyway, happy to be back and a little sad. I

2274
01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:17,280
Speaker 2: felt a non motherfucker. I let a non motherfucking factor

2275
01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:18,320
Speaker 2: take me away from y'all.

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01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:21,160
Speaker 1: Y'all are pioneers. I hope your success con teens blossom. Well,

2277
01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:24,120
Speaker 1: thank you, and uh yeah, you know it's interesting.

2278
01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:26,479
Speaker 2: I remember I made an episode of the show once

2279
01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:30,800
Speaker 2: about someone was using my picture on like dating websites

2280
01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:36,600
Speaker 2: were making fake profiles with me on there, and I

2281
01:47:37,320 --> 01:47:39,400
Speaker 2: was I just made a joke of it, like, oh,

2282
01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:41,719
Speaker 2: you're not gonna be able to handle all the pussy

2283
01:47:41,800 --> 01:47:43,200
Speaker 2: that's gonna come your way down?

2284
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:44,080
Speaker 1: Are you?

2285
01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:47,840
Speaker 2: Do you understand what I live every day. I also

2286
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:50,040
Speaker 2: remember like one person wrote in and didn't like that joke.

2287
01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:51,240
Speaker 2: It was like, that's a funny joke.

2288
01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:53,320
Speaker 1: Fuck you, that's hilarious.

2289
01:47:53,439 --> 01:47:55,680
Speaker 2: There were so many ways to take that, and that's

2290
01:47:55,720 --> 01:47:59,719
Speaker 2: the funniest way to take that is anyway, uh nature

2291
01:48:00,280 --> 01:48:04,200
Speaker 2: says high rody Karen, and shout out to moms. When

2292
01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:07,120
Speaker 2: you started bonus guess the race about Black Eugene and

2293
01:48:07,200 --> 01:48:09,680
Speaker 2: they said he was looking at four hundred years, I

2294
01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:11,960
Speaker 2: thought this had to be some kind of a joke. However,

2295
01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:15,840
Speaker 2: after following the epic journey on October seventeenth, twenty twenty two,

2296
01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 2: I was wrong. From trying to Bob Burger king with

2297
01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:21,639
Speaker 2: meth to finally ended up with him being arrested after

2298
01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:24,280
Speaker 2: a shootout with the cops and saying he wasn't physically hurt,

2299
01:48:24,520 --> 01:48:26,600
Speaker 2: but his feelings were hurt. I think someone forgot to

2300
01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:28,800
Speaker 2: carry the one because Black Eugene is looking at at

2301
01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:32,520
Speaker 2: least six hundred and forty seven years according to my calculations,

2302
01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:35,240
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure he hollowed out that bible he was

2303
01:48:35,320 --> 01:48:37,400
Speaker 2: carrying and kept the pistol in there. Shout out to

2304
01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:39,880
Speaker 2: the journalist that was able to piece together his wild night.

2305
01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:42,720
Speaker 2: That was some Bernard Shaw level combat reporting if I

2306
01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:45,519
Speaker 2: ever heard it, Almost as good as the reporting from

2307
01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:47,400
Speaker 2: guests the race with the white woman on the plane

2308
01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:50,240
Speaker 2: that insulted the cops, Dick sizes impede on herself when

2309
01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:53,479
Speaker 2: she got arrested several months ago. Side note, Karen, though

2310
01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:55,840
Speaker 2: he had black man hair in the eighties, let us

2311
01:48:55,880 --> 01:48:58,360
Speaker 2: not forget Eugene Levy is a white Eugene.

2312
01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:03,080
Speaker 1: Thank you. All right, let's see if there's anything.

2313
01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:06,280
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's a lot of these on YouTube too,

2314
01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:13,280
Speaker 2: because yeah, nineteen comments, all right, Yester, Kendrick Lamar Tretz says,

2315
01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:16,320
Speaker 2: Brooklyn Shoe Babe, yep, I got it too, As Carter says,

2316
01:49:16,360 --> 01:49:18,599
Speaker 2: I never listened to his commentary, never responded to the post,

2317
01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:20,519
Speaker 2: but just the look of his video and his video

2318
01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:22,519
Speaker 2: a to be a discipline was wrong to me. I

2319
01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:25,639
Speaker 2: have worked in education as well as being a student

2320
01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:28,280
Speaker 2: who had school moms, and this is wrong man or

2321
01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:30,799
Speaker 2: woman doing this one having kids in your personal spaces,

2322
01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:33,720
Speaker 2: breaking boundaries that you need and the student needs. I

2323
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:36,880
Speaker 2: never thought before seeing the EMO video that he was

2324
01:49:36,920 --> 01:49:39,519
Speaker 2: a creep, but he is the person who should be

2325
01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:42,720
Speaker 2: helping them set boundaries about what is generally appropriate when

2326
01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:46,719
Speaker 2: kids deal with adults. Yes, Two, placing these kids faces

2327
01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:49,920
Speaker 2: on the internet for commentary to go viours are hard, No, right,

2328
01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:51,920
Speaker 2: that's I think everyone should be able to see that.

2329
01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:52,679
Speaker 1: Three.

2330
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:55,240
Speaker 2: These kids having your personal info to text and support

2331
01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:58,559
Speaker 2: is so wrong. Yeah, it was them texting the support

2332
01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:01,679
Speaker 2: that really was like weird to me, Like it's because

2333
01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:03,040
Speaker 2: it you.

2334
01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:06,320
Speaker 1: Know what, it reminds me of a lot of times,

2335
01:50:06,520 --> 01:50:06,880
Speaker 1: and like.

2336
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:15,360
Speaker 2: Divorces and relationship conflicts, men who have often been doing

2337
01:50:16,040 --> 01:50:20,080
Speaker 2: a woman wrong and do and by proxy their kids

2338
01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:23,519
Speaker 2: wrong will then use the fact that the kids who

2339
01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:26,519
Speaker 2: don't really know better and hopefully the mom has been

2340
01:50:26,600 --> 01:50:30,080
Speaker 2: protecting them from everything going on with their with their

2341
01:50:30,800 --> 01:50:34,000
Speaker 2: father as far or you know, like the like she's

2342
01:50:34,040 --> 01:50:36,040
Speaker 2: not just going home shitting on the dad all the time.

2343
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:37,960
Speaker 2: So the kids still love and support and want to

2344
01:50:37,960 --> 01:50:40,200
Speaker 2: be around them, but they don't understand like everything that's

2345
01:50:40,240 --> 01:50:46,280
Speaker 2: happening obviously, and so uh, you know, if if uh

2346
01:50:46,360 --> 01:50:49,439
Speaker 2: the mom is like, well, this man has prostitutes and

2347
01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:53,080
Speaker 2: drugs and such and such around my kids when and

2348
01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:55,800
Speaker 2: I don't, and that's not appropriate, he's got to stop

2349
01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:57,720
Speaker 2: doing that. Ship with the kids are gonna come over,

2350
01:50:58,439 --> 01:51:00,479
Speaker 2: and then the guys. On social media, he is sharing

2351
01:51:00,600 --> 01:51:02,640
Speaker 2: like text like, look, the mom won't let me be

2352
01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:04,560
Speaker 2: with the kids. Here's my son saying I love you

2353
01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:07,439
Speaker 2: and miss you daddy. It felt like that where it's

2354
01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:09,360
Speaker 2: like I'm supposed to just go. Well, if the kid

2355
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 2: loves and miss you, then clearly the doing cocaine while

2356
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:15,360
Speaker 2: the kid is there, that shouldn't be a problem.

2357
01:51:16,080 --> 01:51:19,080
Speaker 1: It's a problem, right. The kid don't care, right, They're

2358
01:51:19,080 --> 01:51:21,120
Speaker 1: a fucking kid. That's not the job of the kid

2359
01:51:21,160 --> 01:51:21,760
Speaker 1: to care, right.

2360
01:51:22,680 --> 01:51:24,360
Speaker 2: But then I listen to this video on her his

2361
01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:27,479
Speaker 2: reason this reasons as a mother, former educator, and grown adult.

2362
01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:30,240
Speaker 2: Hell no, you say you are excusing students to perform

2363
01:51:30,360 --> 01:51:33,400
Speaker 2: services to your convenience, time and money saved. There are

2364
01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:35,760
Speaker 2: ways you can build community without blurning lives with children.

2365
01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:37,599
Speaker 2: I grew everything y'all said. He seemed to be doing

2366
01:51:37,640 --> 01:51:38,719
Speaker 2: all this for money and cloud.

2367
01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:41,200
Speaker 1: It's just wrong. Sorry, this is long. I could even

2368
01:51:41,240 --> 01:51:42,920
Speaker 1: say more. Thanks for all to be freaked out. I

2369
01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:43,439
Speaker 1: have loved it.

2370
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:47,320
Speaker 2: But when she says Happy Mother's Day, mamamorrow, your lipstick

2371
01:51:47,439 --> 01:51:49,760
Speaker 2: is gorgeous, riding his mama getting down together to not

2372
01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:53,320
Speaker 2: like us as parent child goes educate the free says

2373
01:51:53,400 --> 01:51:56,799
Speaker 2: j cole One win for the culture practicing his yoga moves.

2374
01:51:58,720 --> 01:52:01,559
Speaker 2: Onions under Science says missus Marl you are awesome mom.

2375
01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:05,240
Speaker 1: Thank you. Onions under Signa's Eyes.

2376
01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:08,960
Speaker 2: Jay Houston says high Rod and Karen, I'm rewatching this

2377
01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:10,720
Speaker 2: for the third time and it's just as good as

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01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:13,160
Speaker 2: the first time. It was great seeing the whole family

2379
01:52:13,240 --> 01:52:15,240
Speaker 2: vibing or not like us. It felt like a party,

2380
01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:17,360
Speaker 2: and your mom is awesome. Good job Karen or trying

2381
01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:19,840
Speaker 2: to set up the video and true care fashion. You

2382
01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:22,640
Speaker 2: knew when to tap out, also when to thank you.

2383
01:52:23,120 --> 01:52:24,240
Speaker 2: I want to thank you for all.

2384
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:26,240
Speaker 1: The coverage of the rap beef I know very little about.

2385
01:52:26,439 --> 01:52:29,760
Speaker 1: I'm surprised these arrogant grandchildren of mine by actually being

2386
01:52:29,840 --> 01:52:30,160
Speaker 1: in the know.

2387
01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:33,400
Speaker 2: You saved me hours of looking up terms and references.

2388
01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:36,759
Speaker 2: Karen asked about that snake and his location was hilarious.

2389
01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:38,200
Speaker 2: Keep it the good work, it's appreciate it.

2390
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 1: I every want to know Slay x zero says Riding Cary,

2391
01:52:41,080 --> 01:52:41,679
Speaker 1: y'all are legit.

2392
01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:44,519
Speaker 2: Love of content and seeing you on YouTube by living Japan,

2393
01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:47,240
Speaker 2: Oh and really want to go premium, but I listened

2394
01:52:47,240 --> 01:52:49,640
Speaker 2: on Apple Podcasts. There any chance y'all do suscription on

2395
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:52,880
Speaker 2: that service. Well, actually, you can take our RSS feed

2396
01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:55,599
Speaker 2: from our website if you're premium, put it into your

2397
01:52:55,640 --> 01:52:58,479
Speaker 2: Apple podcast app, and you'll be able to hear all

2398
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:01,320
Speaker 2: our premium shows just with that. Like, it's very easy,

2399
01:53:01,640 --> 01:53:03,400
Speaker 2: and the instructions are on the website and if you

2400
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:06,160
Speaker 2: don't understand instructions, email me the Blackout Tips at gmail

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01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:06,599
Speaker 2: dot com.

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01:53:07,080 --> 01:53:09,080
Speaker 1: So, yeah, we got we got listeners that j're paying

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01:53:09,080 --> 01:53:09,599
Speaker 1: at a premium.

2404
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:15,320
Speaker 2: Heather says heart emojis off subject, Mom's lipstick is kiss

2405
01:53:15,400 --> 01:53:18,840
Speaker 2: emojis he need and then quoted me he needed to

2406
01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:22,160
Speaker 2: be concerned about the HOA before the ov ho dude

2407
01:53:22,360 --> 01:53:26,120
Speaker 2: laughing emojis, thank you uh more. Olivia says, I was

2408
01:53:26,160 --> 01:53:28,000
Speaker 2: waiting for the video upload so I could crack up

2409
01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:29,960
Speaker 2: with y'all. The audio version wasn't cutting it for me

2410
01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:30,479
Speaker 2: this week.

2411
01:53:30,680 --> 01:53:33,800
Speaker 1: Well, we love to see that, and.

2412
01:53:33,880 --> 01:53:37,280
Speaker 2: Then Blue Magic says, Hey, Rod and Karen wish I

2413
01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:39,479
Speaker 2: had a wanting to not drive and listen to this episode.

2414
01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:41,920
Speaker 2: I damned to wreck my car from laughing so hard

2415
01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:45,080
Speaker 2: listening to the news before to say raper instead of

2416
01:53:45,160 --> 01:53:48,080
Speaker 2: rapper almost took me all the way out right. What

2417
01:53:48,240 --> 01:53:52,439
Speaker 2: a what a Freudian slip. This is amazing and hilarious episode.

2418
01:53:52,439 --> 01:53:54,720
Speaker 2: Happy Mother's Day to Mama. Rod keep putting out the

2419
01:53:54,760 --> 01:53:58,639
Speaker 2: great content, and so it said, actually pulled over into.

2420
01:53:58,479 --> 01:54:02,240
Speaker 1: The dairy Queen parking lot. I was laughing so hard. Well,

2421
01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:05,040
Speaker 1: we love when we almost kill y'all. Okay, we love that.

2422
01:54:05,280 --> 01:54:07,599
Speaker 3: Go ahead and get your Sunday to Deavik Queen right.

2423
01:54:08,280 --> 01:54:10,559
Speaker 2: Get your take an ice cream break, Levetta says Rode.

2424
01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:12,920
Speaker 2: My first time watching the Mother's d show, I usually

2425
01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:16,439
Speaker 2: listen to stay Your mother is gorgeous. Hard eyes emoji

2426
01:54:16,600 --> 01:54:20,640
Speaker 2: also also as usual, a great show. Thank you, Uh,

2427
01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:23,760
Speaker 2: Brandon says Mom going off made my day.

2428
01:54:25,200 --> 01:54:28,639
Speaker 1: We weed man. Wade says Mama knowing the lyrics sent

2429
01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:30,800
Speaker 1: me man, that's legit. I told y'all this is a

2430
01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:34,360
Speaker 1: big moment. Hey.

2431
01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:37,320
Speaker 2: Kate Defrio says, I love that family, saying a long

2432
01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:41,040
Speaker 2: intro single on intro, Mom was rocking. Yeah, you know

2433
01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:43,960
Speaker 2: it's funny that somebody told us not to cover this

2434
01:54:44,080 --> 01:54:45,520
Speaker 2: and no one cares and it was born.

2435
01:54:45,680 --> 01:54:46,280
Speaker 1: Damn they was.

2436
01:54:46,280 --> 01:54:49,560
Speaker 2: Wrong and they never wrote back to apologize more Olivia says,

2437
01:54:49,560 --> 01:54:52,080
Speaker 2: happy mother's dad of your beautiful mother. Well, thank y'all

2438
01:54:52,160 --> 01:54:55,400
Speaker 2: for all those nice coin words about my mom. And

2439
01:54:55,680 --> 01:55:00,240
Speaker 2: of course, uh, you know, we still have the hole

2440
01:55:00,360 --> 01:55:03,680
Speaker 2: to get to, which is the teacher taking hair down

2441
01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:09,080
Speaker 2: takedown video thing inappropriate to totally fine? Nine percent say inappropriate,

2442
01:55:09,600 --> 01:55:11,160
Speaker 2: nine percent say totally fine.

2443
01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:13,280
Speaker 1: And I think that's interesting because you.

2444
01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:15,960
Speaker 2: Know the kind of audience we at, like these the

2445
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:20,120
Speaker 2: most open minded ass niggas you gonna find, and the

2446
01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:24,320
Speaker 2: vast majority of them are like like, if they could

2447
01:55:24,400 --> 01:55:27,280
Speaker 2: find a way to make it okay, they would have

2448
01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:32,080
Speaker 2: yes and on Spotify basically seventy eight percent to twenty

2449
01:55:32,080 --> 01:55:34,960
Speaker 2: two percent. Still the vast majority of people think it's inappropriate.

2450
01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:38,480
Speaker 2: My whole thing is, and I think we can all agree.

2451
01:55:38,960 --> 01:55:39,480
Speaker 1: Why would you.

2452
01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:42,840
Speaker 2: Post that knowing, knowing that you knew it was gonna

2453
01:55:42,840 --> 01:55:45,960
Speaker 2: make people upset? I just don't understand that logic, and

2454
01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:48,800
Speaker 2: I would question that dude's decision making.

2455
01:55:49,120 --> 01:55:51,680
Speaker 1: Yes, Q and a dot fuck him up.

2456
01:55:52,480 --> 01:55:55,640
Speaker 2: Uh, Yourmanti says, not like us has to be the

2457
01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:58,480
Speaker 2: first Bay Area centric West Coast jam to unite the

2458
01:55:58,600 --> 01:55:59,480
Speaker 2: nation in the dance.

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01:55:59,480 --> 01:56:03,600
Speaker 1: Since pot I get around, Uh tell me where to

2460
01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:04,879
Speaker 1: go blow the whistle.

2461
01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:10,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, I don't I don't know.

2462
01:56:10,480 --> 01:56:12,320
Speaker 2: I don't want That's not my area of expertise, and

2463
01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:13,800
Speaker 2: I don't want Nick you right there telling me.

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01:56:14,040 --> 01:56:16,880
Speaker 1: You know she will because you know she knows. She

2465
01:56:17,080 --> 01:56:19,880
Speaker 1: the Bay Area keeper of the of the of the culture,

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01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:23,920
Speaker 1: so she know, uh, says Creasy. Neword.

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01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:27,080
Speaker 2: Dynamite says, my son started chatting ov ho right after

2468
01:56:27,160 --> 01:56:30,800
Speaker 2: you heard it. Ke says, you know how trash and human.

2469
01:56:30,840 --> 01:56:33,360
Speaker 2: You gotta be the inspire nigga pure via pure hate.

2470
01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:35,520
Speaker 2: Enough hate to go in the studio and write ten songs,

2471
01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:39,520
Speaker 2: ten songs. Candicle says Rando YouTube to watch alone audio

2472
01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:42,240
Speaker 2: is not enough for this episode. Raphael says, I guess

2473
01:56:42,280 --> 01:56:45,400
Speaker 2: it's too late for please dot don't hurt them back

2474
01:56:45,440 --> 01:56:49,160
Speaker 2: to playing l bb L. Valerie says, Rod's mama is

2475
01:56:49,160 --> 01:56:52,600
Speaker 2: beautiful and I do the same always preface phone conversation

2476
01:56:52,720 --> 01:56:53,440
Speaker 2: with my brothers.

2477
01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:56,320
Speaker 1: I ain't want nothing, just talk, I'm cool, et cetera. Yeah,

2478
01:56:56,320 --> 01:56:57,000
Speaker 1: I do that a lot.

2479
01:56:58,000 --> 01:57:00,480
Speaker 2: If I leave your voicemail, I always gotta let you know, like, hey,

2480
01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:03,760
Speaker 2: I was just I ain't want nothing, Yeah, just checking out.

2481
01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:06,360
Speaker 1: If you don't get back to me. Ain't no hard feelings.

2482
01:57:06,840 --> 01:57:08,120
Speaker 3: I won't take it personally.

2483
01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:12,840
Speaker 2: Uh Trey says Drake who oh v ho? Uh Kisher

2484
01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:15,879
Speaker 2: says all day. I appreciate this type of violence. Almney

2485
01:57:15,880 --> 01:57:19,200
Speaker 2: says Kendrick was everywhere, everything, all at once. Coach Malik

2486
01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:22,000
Speaker 2: Bailey says, it's a teacher. There are lives that shouldn't

2487
01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:23,480
Speaker 2: be crossed. You can be cool when it comes to

2488
01:57:23,520 --> 01:57:26,040
Speaker 2: your attitude, style and disposition. Do not have the kids

2489
01:57:26,120 --> 01:57:28,600
Speaker 2: do whatever, keep it to the book or sports.

2490
01:57:29,360 --> 01:57:29,440
Speaker 3: Uh.

2491
01:57:29,640 --> 01:57:32,480
Speaker 1: DJ Freedom says I had to watch this on YouTube.

2492
01:57:32,520 --> 01:57:35,200
Speaker 1: You two have me dying. Thank you glad you enjoyed it.

2493
01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:38,440
Speaker 1: I'm glad y'all went to the YouTube page to check

2494
01:57:38,520 --> 01:57:38,800
Speaker 1: it out.

2495
01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:42,120
Speaker 2: And let me play another beat so we can put

2496
01:57:42,200 --> 01:57:43,959
Speaker 2: some commercials before we go to the next episode.

2497
01:57:45,000 --> 01:58:21,200
Speaker 1: Boom like all right. The next episode is More Batter

2498
01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:30,520
Speaker 1: More Boys, Episode two nine three I believe eight comments.

2499
01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:34,520
Speaker 1: The first is from DJ, who says, all the Critter

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01:58:34,640 --> 01:58:38,560
Speaker 1: Getter episode memories Rod got in that dude ass. Yeah,

2501
01:58:38,760 --> 01:58:40,600
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't they never seen no one,

2502
01:58:40,720 --> 01:58:41,920
Speaker 1: They never seen that part of me.

2503
01:58:42,400 --> 01:58:45,280
Speaker 2: Shoe Booty says, it's really fun how in one breath

2504
01:58:45,320 --> 01:58:47,440
Speaker 2: we are saying we got to decriminalize marijuana. This is

2505
01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:50,520
Speaker 2: ruining lives. In the next we need to outlaw this lemonade.

2506
01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:52,280
Speaker 2: The people are dying. What a wild time to be

2507
01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:54,839
Speaker 2: allowed right and to be right in both cases.

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01:58:55,640 --> 01:58:58,160
Speaker 1: Yes, like the lemonade killing people.

2509
01:58:58,600 --> 01:59:00,839
Speaker 3: Why did he ain't get heart attacks?

2510
01:59:01,600 --> 01:59:04,120
Speaker 2: It's such a weird gray area considering the legal versus

2511
01:59:04,320 --> 01:59:05,400
Speaker 2: elite legal drugs.

2512
01:59:05,440 --> 01:59:06,360
Speaker 1: Caffeine is a drug.

2513
01:59:06,480 --> 01:59:09,680
Speaker 2: The energy drink consumption has become so ubiquitous, but it's

2514
01:59:09,760 --> 01:59:12,280
Speaker 2: legitimately harmful to our health and excess because we have

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01:59:12,400 --> 01:59:14,800
Speaker 2: personal freedom to drink as much of whatever we want to.

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01:59:15,360 --> 01:59:17,880
Speaker 1: At what point is we are sorry you died, but

2517
01:59:18,040 --> 01:59:19,720
Speaker 1: you should all you should know better.

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01:59:19,920 --> 01:59:20,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2519
01:59:20,480 --> 01:59:21,120
Speaker 1: Basically Yeah.

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01:59:21,160 --> 01:59:22,600
Speaker 3: They feel like if we smack of one and on

2521
01:59:22,720 --> 01:59:24,640
Speaker 3: your debt, you still want take it and die.

2522
01:59:24,720 --> 01:59:26,000
Speaker 1: That's on you, Sean says.

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01:59:26,040 --> 01:59:28,360
Speaker 2: On the one hand, I remember Jennifer Strange who died

2524
01:59:28,400 --> 01:59:30,920
Speaker 2: in the radio contest Hold your Wii for a we

2525
01:59:31,160 --> 01:59:32,240
Speaker 2: for drinking too much water.

2526
01:59:32,440 --> 01:59:33,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, we come down the show.

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01:59:34,280 --> 01:59:40,800
Speaker 2: As Pericles wrote, doss solid venium. Only the dose makes

2528
01:59:40,840 --> 01:59:44,280
Speaker 2: the poison. Many people are quite legal and safe, but

2529
01:59:44,640 --> 01:59:47,600
Speaker 2: that has never been the case. Marijuana has always been

2530
01:59:47,640 --> 01:59:51,040
Speaker 2: safer than tobacco or alcohol. But a slinger's racist campaign

2531
01:59:51,120 --> 01:59:53,840
Speaker 2: to get Billy Holliday to stop singing about lynching led

2532
01:59:53,880 --> 01:59:55,800
Speaker 2: to it to be the criminal led for it to

2533
01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:59,720
Speaker 2: be criminalized in America. If America had focused on education

2534
01:59:59,800 --> 02:00:02,720
Speaker 2: rather demonization, perhaps we'd have a more reasonable situation.

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02:00:03,400 --> 02:00:05,080
Speaker 1: I just says I agree with Sean here.

2536
02:00:05,560 --> 02:00:08,080
Speaker 2: It's something I think about often, maybe also because of

2537
02:00:08,120 --> 02:00:10,640
Speaker 2: my Work's legal and what's not changed a lot in

2538
02:00:10,720 --> 02:00:13,160
Speaker 2: the past for different reasons, and it went in both directions.

2539
02:00:13,240 --> 02:00:15,760
Speaker 2: Some such as that started out legal and became illegal.

2540
02:00:16,240 --> 02:00:18,680
Speaker 2: Others win a different direction. Heroin and cocaine were first

2541
02:00:18,680 --> 02:00:21,680
Speaker 2: developed this medical drugs. Cocaine was used to treat alcohol addiction.

2542
02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:23,920
Speaker 2: I'm sure it worked with the side effect of being

2543
02:00:23,920 --> 02:00:25,320
Speaker 2: addicted to cocaine afterwards.

2544
02:00:25,520 --> 02:00:25,640
Speaker 9: Right.

2545
02:00:26,240 --> 02:00:27,920
Speaker 1: I bet it didn't even work. I bet people was

2546
02:00:28,160 --> 02:00:31,240
Speaker 1: drunk and not. I don't know that ups and downs.

2547
02:00:31,560 --> 02:00:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, at least it was legal by the time. It

2548
02:00:34,200 --> 02:00:36,280
Speaker 2: was legal boy that time, so you could just buy

2549
02:00:36,360 --> 02:00:39,400
Speaker 2: some at the pharmacy, I know. I remember I watched

2550
02:00:39,440 --> 02:00:44,080
Speaker 2: a documentary on PBS about drugs and legalization, and one

2551
02:00:44,120 --> 02:00:46,440
Speaker 2: of the things people don't bring up about the criminalization

2552
02:00:46,520 --> 02:00:48,880
Speaker 2: of a lot of drugs in America, almost all of

2553
02:00:48,960 --> 02:00:50,640
Speaker 2: it is criminalized.

2554
02:00:50,240 --> 02:00:52,839
Speaker 1: Based off of racial racism.

2555
02:00:52,960 --> 02:00:55,760
Speaker 2: Based off of racism, they would often be like, well,

2556
02:00:56,000 --> 02:00:58,240
Speaker 2: of course, you, as an ary and pure white man,

2557
02:00:58,320 --> 02:01:01,080
Speaker 2: can handle your cocaine and your week, but if these

2558
02:01:01,160 --> 02:01:02,960
Speaker 2: black men get a hold of it, they will rape

2559
02:01:03,000 --> 02:01:03,640
Speaker 2: your white women.

2560
02:01:04,280 --> 02:01:05,080
Speaker 1: And now I'm not joking.

2561
02:01:05,160 --> 02:01:08,200
Speaker 2: That was just straight up how they and white people,

2562
02:01:08,320 --> 02:01:12,120
Speaker 2: being so fearful of black people, was able to to

2563
02:01:12,440 --> 02:01:14,720
Speaker 2: to to look past themselves and be like, well, of

2564
02:01:14,800 --> 02:01:16,720
Speaker 2: course we're not rapists. I mean, there's just a lot

2565
02:01:16,760 --> 02:01:19,640
Speaker 2: of light skinned black people for no reason. We're not

2566
02:01:19,800 --> 02:01:24,400
Speaker 2: rapist at all. But these blacks, okay, we gotta get

2567
02:01:24,480 --> 02:01:25,520
Speaker 2: cocainees off the streets.

2568
02:01:25,720 --> 02:01:26,600
Speaker 1: And that's how they did it.

2569
02:01:27,320 --> 02:01:29,600
Speaker 2: Now there are so there are many studies being Oh

2570
02:01:29,680 --> 02:01:32,480
Speaker 2: and by the way, same thing for prohibition in the South,

2571
02:01:32,600 --> 02:01:35,600
Speaker 2: especially in the South, it was well, of course white

2572
02:01:35,680 --> 02:01:36,640
Speaker 2: men can take a drink.

2573
02:01:36,720 --> 02:01:37,280
Speaker 1: That's fine.

2574
02:01:37,680 --> 02:01:40,280
Speaker 2: You're a big, strong, strapping white man, You're perfectly fine.

2575
02:01:40,840 --> 02:01:43,879
Speaker 2: But if a black man takes a drink, okay, everyone's

2576
02:01:43,880 --> 02:01:46,600
Speaker 2: getting raped. That was basically the entire fucking camp.

2577
02:01:46,680 --> 02:01:47,600
Speaker 3: Everybody get raped.

2578
02:01:47,920 --> 02:01:49,800
Speaker 1: Answer, yeah, uh, Now.

2579
02:01:49,800 --> 02:01:52,600
Speaker 2: There are many studies being done with psychoactive drugs like

2580
02:01:52,760 --> 02:01:55,960
Speaker 2: LSD ORD md m A because they see that positive

2581
02:01:55,960 --> 02:01:58,160
Speaker 2: effects on mental illness in some cases, and they're not

2582
02:01:58,320 --> 02:02:00,640
Speaker 2: just party drugs. I think overall it's good that we

2583
02:02:00,800 --> 02:02:04,040
Speaker 2: are rethinking substances. This is how science works. It's just

2584
02:02:04,200 --> 02:02:06,960
Speaker 2: it's not just saying. It's just that nothing says the same.

2585
02:02:07,040 --> 02:02:09,520
Speaker 1: But this is life. Let's see.

2586
02:02:09,880 --> 02:02:14,520
Speaker 2: DJ says, what that Monique Monique over into TVGWT comments

2587
02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:17,040
Speaker 2: sneak this in our lovely and funny Lady.

2588
02:02:16,880 --> 02:02:20,200
Speaker 1: Karen better leave her beautiful head wrap along before y'all

2589
02:02:20,240 --> 02:02:22,920
Speaker 1: get draked out here in these hot podcasts and comments

2590
02:02:22,960 --> 02:02:26,720
Speaker 1: streets written one says, regarding the Jackie Robinson's statue, my

2591
02:02:26,840 --> 02:02:28,680
Speaker 1: guess is he was trying to melt it down before

2592
02:02:28,720 --> 02:02:31,720
Speaker 1: attempting to sell it, since everyone would be on the

2593
02:02:31,800 --> 02:02:32,520
Speaker 1: lookout for it.

2594
02:02:32,640 --> 02:02:35,000
Speaker 2: But I still give it your cars because still in

2595
02:02:35,040 --> 02:02:37,040
Speaker 2: the black best statue feels racist and my soul.

2596
02:02:37,480 --> 02:02:39,440
Speaker 3: But he trashed it and burned it, so it's like,

2597
02:02:39,520 --> 02:02:40,880
Speaker 3: how were you playing on selling it?

2598
02:02:40,960 --> 02:02:41,120
Speaker 1: Then?

2599
02:02:41,240 --> 02:02:44,480
Speaker 2: I don't understand scrap metal burning shit. I don't, so

2600
02:02:44,640 --> 02:02:45,200
Speaker 2: maybe that's.

2601
02:02:45,080 --> 02:02:45,720
Speaker 1: What was happening.

2602
02:02:46,560 --> 02:02:49,320
Speaker 3: Process Something wrong, right, so it was, like.

2603
02:02:50,360 --> 02:02:52,800
Speaker 1: I says, in my opinion, K and R have a

2604
02:02:52,880 --> 02:02:53,839
Speaker 1: beautiful relationship.

2605
02:02:53,920 --> 02:02:56,680
Speaker 2: If mister OPPI and I had a podcast, we would

2606
02:02:56,680 --> 02:03:00,080
Speaker 2: be much problematic because he is passive aggressive, and I

2607
02:03:00,120 --> 02:03:04,320
Speaker 2: can be aggressive aggressive. Luckily, I'm also very reflective, so

2608
02:03:04,440 --> 02:03:06,680
Speaker 2: I try not to get mad at his non communication,

2609
02:03:06,840 --> 02:03:11,280
Speaker 2: but sometimes it's not working. Yeah, I always say, give

2610
02:03:11,320 --> 02:03:13,640
Speaker 2: it a try. Let me listen to your podcast. Person

2611
02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:16,240
Speaker 2: that don't that don't like how we do it, right?

2612
02:03:16,560 --> 02:03:18,360
Speaker 2: I love to hear with you and your love, which

2613
02:03:18,400 --> 02:03:20,360
Speaker 2: I'll sound like in front of the whole fucking world,

2614
02:03:20,520 --> 02:03:23,480
Speaker 2: everybody judging it, every fucking syllable and pause.

2615
02:03:24,480 --> 02:03:26,320
Speaker 3: You like the renunciation of accents.

2616
02:03:26,480 --> 02:03:28,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you like the one to be comfortable with yourself

2617
02:03:28,440 --> 02:03:30,600
Speaker 2: and be like, this is what it is, and you

2618
02:03:30,720 --> 02:03:34,880
Speaker 2: know I will take it under the advisement. Evie says,

2619
02:03:34,960 --> 02:03:36,760
Speaker 2: I think part of the funny is when you don't

2620
02:03:36,840 --> 02:03:39,280
Speaker 2: laugh at Kara's jokes, but she tickled anyway because she's

2621
02:03:39,280 --> 02:03:40,320
Speaker 2: still proud of that joke.

2622
02:03:41,000 --> 02:03:45,160
Speaker 3: Yes, child, I because because in my mind, I mean

2623
02:03:45,240 --> 02:03:47,600
Speaker 3: like I worked hard on that, I thought out there

2624
02:03:48,040 --> 02:03:48,720
Speaker 3: and it's crooked.

2625
02:03:48,800 --> 02:03:50,360
Speaker 1: Say did he tell me how bad it is?

2626
02:03:50,760 --> 02:03:52,320
Speaker 3: I was like, no, that took some effort.

2627
02:03:52,400 --> 02:03:56,440
Speaker 1: Hooray me and I cracked me up. So we're gonna

2628
02:03:56,440 --> 02:03:58,640
Speaker 1: have to deal with this. Even when the joke doesn't

2629
02:03:58,640 --> 02:04:00,520
Speaker 1: always land, it's still funny because of the way she

2630
02:04:00,640 --> 02:04:02,960
Speaker 1: tells it, at least to me anyway. And that person

2631
02:04:03,000 --> 02:04:05,080
Speaker 1: who wrote in about how you talk to her.

2632
02:04:05,080 --> 02:04:07,480
Speaker 2: Clearly as a regular listener, because Queen Karen is great

2633
02:04:07,480 --> 02:04:10,640
Speaker 2: at advocating for herself and would never allow any disrespect.

2634
02:04:10,720 --> 02:04:13,360
Speaker 2: Maybe that person's projecting their own relationship of past trauma.

2635
02:04:13,640 --> 02:04:14,440
Speaker 1: Totally possible.

2636
02:04:14,560 --> 02:04:16,720
Speaker 2: I don't know, like some nigga could be talking slick

2637
02:04:16,760 --> 02:04:20,680
Speaker 2: to her right now, and not all niggas talk slick,

2638
02:04:21,200 --> 02:04:21,360
Speaker 2: you know.

2639
02:04:22,920 --> 02:04:24,640
Speaker 1: Like I said, it's the man or the bear shit.

2640
02:04:24,840 --> 02:04:27,520
Speaker 2: I what fuck I look like trying to convince somebody

2641
02:04:27,560 --> 02:04:29,560
Speaker 2: I'm not scared as a bear. If you're scared of

2642
02:04:29,640 --> 02:04:31,880
Speaker 2: me as a bear, please keep your distance. I don't

2643
02:04:31,920 --> 02:04:34,000
Speaker 2: want you bringing that fear over here, and I don't

2644
02:04:34,080 --> 02:04:37,640
Speaker 2: want you know, fear also works both ways, like now

2645
02:04:37,640 --> 02:04:38,840
Speaker 2: you got to shoot me and some shit.

2646
02:04:38,920 --> 02:04:41,600
Speaker 1: I don't want no problems. I walk around my whole.

2647
02:04:41,440 --> 02:04:42,960
Speaker 2: Life trying not to be scared as a bet of

2648
02:04:43,040 --> 02:04:45,480
Speaker 2: these motherfuckers. I just want to live my life alone.

2649
02:04:45,680 --> 02:04:49,560
Speaker 2: So thank you for doing me the favor. But also

2650
02:04:50,560 --> 02:04:56,240
Speaker 2: you can't disprove somebody's whatever, like if you think you

2651
02:04:56,440 --> 02:04:58,840
Speaker 2: hear this and I'm just some weird ass abuse or

2652
02:04:58,880 --> 02:05:01,360
Speaker 2: ass nigga that decided to make three thousand episodes of

2653
02:05:01,480 --> 02:05:05,600
Speaker 2: me slowly, low key pass aggressively abused my wife.

2654
02:05:05,400 --> 02:05:09,120
Speaker 1: Every day to the amusement of everyone. And no one

2655
02:05:09,200 --> 02:05:09,520
Speaker 1: gets it.

2656
02:05:09,600 --> 02:05:13,080
Speaker 2: But you only you understand if you decided that that's

2657
02:05:13,280 --> 02:05:15,160
Speaker 2: your truth and you get to live that truth.

2658
02:05:15,880 --> 02:05:17,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't need that. Part of that is not

2659
02:05:18,200 --> 02:05:20,280
Speaker 3: I promise y'all. That is not my reality.

2660
02:05:20,640 --> 02:05:23,200
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, but you saying that that's part of

2661
02:05:23,200 --> 02:05:25,920
Speaker 1: the abuse. Car I'm making you say it. You don't

2662
02:05:25,960 --> 02:05:29,320
Speaker 1: even know up to it. Trick that Jed, I mind, Drick.

2663
02:05:29,480 --> 02:05:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm so good at this abuse caring.

2664
02:05:31,400 --> 02:05:37,080
Speaker 2: Okay, you are fastlator, Okay, I'll be I cook you.

2665
02:05:37,480 --> 02:05:39,160
Speaker 2: I cook your food every day for you because I

2666
02:05:39,200 --> 02:05:40,680
Speaker 2: don't want you leave a house you trapped.

2667
02:05:42,160 --> 02:05:44,880
Speaker 1: Now look at you you do cooking me every day.

2668
02:05:45,480 --> 02:05:48,920
Speaker 2: Aubrey continues to take L's Besides Kendrick, they not like

2669
02:05:49,080 --> 02:05:51,240
Speaker 2: us number one, which Iby definitely cares about.

2670
02:05:51,280 --> 02:05:53,160
Speaker 1: They played they not like us in a Raptors game

2671
02:05:53,480 --> 02:05:55,840
Speaker 1: where Aubrey was in a tennis Damn wait what.

2672
02:05:56,720 --> 02:06:00,800
Speaker 3: No, that can't be true. Is that because the Raptors

2673
02:06:00,840 --> 02:06:01,680
Speaker 3: is at the playoffs?

2674
02:06:01,760 --> 02:06:04,400
Speaker 1: You got tricked by a video because the Raptors ain't

2675
02:06:04,400 --> 02:06:08,360
Speaker 1: play the game since fucking about to say if they

2676
02:06:08,520 --> 02:06:10,840
Speaker 1: not like us drop after they season was over. Yeah,

2677
02:06:10,880 --> 02:06:12,240
Speaker 1: somebody got you with a fake video.

2678
02:06:13,120 --> 02:06:15,040
Speaker 2: I tried to do a deep dive about the motives

2679
02:06:15,160 --> 02:06:17,560
Speaker 2: behind the Jackie Robinson statute that the vandalism, but it

2680
02:06:17,600 --> 02:06:19,320
Speaker 2: seems like the police are the ones keeping the motives

2681
02:06:19,400 --> 02:06:22,080
Speaker 2: under wrap, which makes me think there's either police involvement

2682
02:06:22,160 --> 02:06:25,640
Speaker 2: or someone close to the apartment is involved. Shaking my head, Yeah, exactly.

2683
02:06:25,800 --> 02:06:27,320
Speaker 2: A conspiracy goes always the top.

2684
02:06:28,680 --> 02:06:32,200
Speaker 1: Uh Rob Hey, but Mill says, Hey, Rob and Kendra.

2685
02:06:33,280 --> 02:06:35,000
Speaker 2: I've been a super duper fan of yours from the

2686
02:06:35,000 --> 02:06:37,720
Speaker 2: start of your podcast way back and let's say twenty twenty,

2687
02:06:38,120 --> 02:06:39,680
Speaker 2: But now I think you're going too far with this.

2688
02:06:39,800 --> 02:06:42,120
Speaker 1: Drake and Kendrick thing is obvious. I mean, Drake one,

2689
02:06:42,240 --> 02:06:46,280
Speaker 1: you Niggers, I mean Nigga gus obviously Krigick fans, how

2690
02:06:46,320 --> 02:06:50,640
Speaker 1: could you like him? You definitely cheasing me. Fam crody's

2691
02:06:50,680 --> 02:06:52,640
Speaker 1: are acting like some wastemans them.

2692
02:06:53,240 --> 02:06:56,520
Speaker 2: You call yourself a podcaster and out here you don't

2693
02:06:56,520 --> 02:06:59,800
Speaker 2: even laugh at your wife's jokes. One more thing, you

2694
02:06:59,880 --> 02:07:01,680
Speaker 2: are also applied to That teacher was inappropriate to let

2695
02:07:01,720 --> 02:07:02,760
Speaker 2: the student take out his brains?

2696
02:07:02,840 --> 02:07:03,520
Speaker 1: What was wrong with that?

2697
02:07:03,680 --> 02:07:05,840
Speaker 2: I meant to lots and lots of young teenage girls

2698
02:07:05,920 --> 02:07:08,800
Speaker 2: all the time. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Anyway,

2699
02:07:08,880 --> 02:07:11,520
Speaker 2: Stick to podcast and stop slandering me. I mean slandering Drake.

2700
02:07:11,760 --> 02:07:15,400
Speaker 2: You're number one fan Auvey Grizzy. Oh we riding Carron.

2701
02:07:15,440 --> 02:07:17,120
Speaker 2: I think my account was hacked with some guy named

2702
02:07:17,160 --> 02:07:30,840
Speaker 2: Avery g emil oh YouTube four comments. Ri d mc

2703
02:07:31,160 --> 02:07:33,920
Speaker 2: k says, I agree about the whole celebrity blocking thing.

2704
02:07:34,040 --> 02:07:37,080
Speaker 2: The petty part of me jumped on blocking the Kardashian

2705
02:07:37,120 --> 02:07:39,560
Speaker 2: and Jenners, but I never followed them anyways. But as

2706
02:07:39,560 --> 02:07:41,480
Speaker 2: far as the purpose of it, it feels random and

2707
02:07:41,520 --> 02:07:44,120
Speaker 2: pointless in regards to the movement on US policy.

2708
02:07:44,480 --> 02:07:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah he does.

2709
02:07:45,920 --> 02:07:49,400
Speaker 3: The only politician did I ever block this Trump?

2710
02:07:50,360 --> 02:07:52,280
Speaker 1: We're not politicians. They talking about celebrities.

2711
02:07:52,480 --> 02:07:56,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they said celebrities, because remember we talked about

2712
02:07:56,520 --> 02:07:57,320
Speaker 2: the celebrity.

2713
02:07:57,320 --> 02:07:59,640
Speaker 3: People will say yes, your celebrity. I don't give fuck.

2714
02:07:59,640 --> 02:08:02,320
Speaker 3: I don't find you, you know, yeah, if I don't follow,

2715
02:08:02,360 --> 02:08:03,920
Speaker 3: you know a lot of times, the only time I

2716
02:08:04,000 --> 02:08:05,840
Speaker 3: see it is when other people talking about it's hot

2717
02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:08,640
Speaker 3: trends in my timeline. Other than that, I don't see nothing.

2718
02:08:08,720 --> 02:08:12,840
Speaker 2: The people doing Ramsey says, Martin Lawrence and Will Smith

2719
02:08:12,920 --> 02:08:13,800
Speaker 2: have all my dollars.

2720
02:08:14,560 --> 02:08:15,720
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm in for that, for that.

2721
02:08:16,960 --> 02:08:19,880
Speaker 2: Llions under Sonya's eye says Bad Boys titles are so funny.

2722
02:08:19,920 --> 02:08:22,960
Speaker 2: Will and are just fun gods, so they will always

2723
02:08:22,960 --> 02:08:25,680
Speaker 2: get my money. And so you just says I love

2724
02:08:25,760 --> 02:08:28,600
Speaker 2: Kara's monologue on love and how it should evolve over time.

2725
02:08:29,400 --> 02:08:35,800
Speaker 2: I agree, aren't in post Bad Boys movies. I'm always

2726
02:08:35,840 --> 02:08:38,080
Speaker 2: in or no thanks? Sixty six percent of artist is

2727
02:08:38,120 --> 02:08:40,960
Speaker 2: always in like me and Karen. Thirty three percent is

2728
02:08:41,600 --> 02:08:46,520
Speaker 2: no thanks and basically the same on Spotify, the Q

2729
02:08:46,760 --> 02:08:51,280
Speaker 2: and A was ha ha ha ha, Karen is killing me.

2730
02:08:51,520 --> 02:08:56,360
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Rod Michelle says, I love how Care

2731
02:08:56,440 --> 02:08:58,800
Speaker 2: last of her jokes. Janelle James last of her jokes

2732
02:08:58,960 --> 02:09:01,400
Speaker 2: her own jokes too. Being confident in your awn humor

2733
02:09:01,480 --> 02:09:04,200
Speaker 2: is a good thing, Just Joe says, being listening for

2734
02:09:04,320 --> 02:09:06,960
Speaker 2: about two months now. I love y'all chemistry every episode,

2735
02:09:06,960 --> 02:09:08,840
Speaker 2: bringing smile on my face on the way home from work.

2736
02:09:09,200 --> 02:09:13,200
Speaker 2: Please never stop making content. Peace and best blessings from

2737
02:09:13,280 --> 02:09:13,560
Speaker 2: the bay.

2738
02:09:13,680 --> 02:09:15,000
Speaker 1: Thank you, Joe, thank you.

2739
02:09:15,600 --> 02:09:15,800
Speaker 4: Yah.

2740
02:09:15,960 --> 02:09:16,840
Speaker 6: Yeah you better laughing.

2741
02:09:16,840 --> 02:09:18,520
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody else laughing? You laugh?

2742
02:09:18,800 --> 02:09:22,680
Speaker 2: I completely disagree with that take. By the way, be

2743
02:09:22,880 --> 02:09:28,040
Speaker 2: funnier is what I say. That's how you get good. Jail,

2744
02:09:28,120 --> 02:09:31,200
Speaker 2: I'm sure is listening he would agree. There's nothing worse

2745
02:09:31,280 --> 02:09:34,520
Speaker 2: than the people that are like no, one has to

2746
02:09:34,560 --> 02:09:37,280
Speaker 2: think I'm funny. No, somebody need to think you funny.

2747
02:09:37,680 --> 02:09:39,920
Speaker 2: You gotta hit the mark sometimes.

2748
02:09:39,960 --> 02:09:42,080
Speaker 1: Or what the fuck? Then go do a one man show.

2749
02:09:42,480 --> 02:09:45,360
Speaker 1: Sometimes I do hit them all. Sometimes I don't. I know,

2750
02:09:45,560 --> 02:09:47,440
Speaker 1: I just won't. I'll never lie to you because I'll

2751
02:09:47,600 --> 02:09:50,520
Speaker 1: value honesty in our relationship. And you see, over the

2752
02:09:50,680 --> 02:09:53,120
Speaker 1: years I have shopping and gotten better.

2753
02:09:53,120 --> 02:09:55,680
Speaker 2: And it's all been because of me, none of us,

2754
02:09:55,800 --> 02:09:58,879
Speaker 2: because of the audience, because these niggas apparently will take anything.

2755
02:10:00,160 --> 02:10:02,600
Speaker 2: I'm the one that's helping you get better by being like, no,

2756
02:10:02,800 --> 02:10:05,360
Speaker 2: that could be a better joke, and then boom, we

2757
02:10:05,480 --> 02:10:06,280
Speaker 2: get better jokes.

2758
02:10:06,360 --> 02:10:09,800
Speaker 1: Y'all welcome you. That's right, because you're the writer.

2759
02:10:10,240 --> 02:10:12,280
Speaker 2: That's like saying that's like taking it as a compliment,

2760
02:10:12,720 --> 02:10:15,520
Speaker 2: Like it's like when I cook. And then Karen will

2761
02:10:15,560 --> 02:10:18,440
Speaker 2: sometimes say stuff to people like well I eat anything,

2762
02:10:18,680 --> 02:10:20,440
Speaker 2: and I'm like, that's not a fucking compliment.

2763
02:10:21,160 --> 02:10:24,800
Speaker 1: Well let me serve you some gruel then we'll see what. Right, No,

2764
02:10:25,000 --> 02:10:28,280
Speaker 1: you won't eat anything, and you won't eat leaves of

2765
02:10:28,440 --> 02:10:32,440
Speaker 1: certain things. There's a lot of shit, take that grass. Sorry, right,

2766
02:10:32,560 --> 02:10:33,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff she won't eat.

2767
02:10:34,040 --> 02:10:36,080
Speaker 2: She won't eat anything, and that helps me be a

2768
02:10:36,120 --> 02:10:39,160
Speaker 2: better cook, so I'll cook better and I pick better

2769
02:10:39,280 --> 02:10:40,480
Speaker 2: meals so that she.

2770
02:10:40,560 --> 02:10:43,800
Speaker 1: Will eat them. So you need the honesty.

2771
02:10:44,200 --> 02:10:47,040
Speaker 2: No one's being done a favor by being like I

2772
02:10:47,080 --> 02:10:49,160
Speaker 2: don't care if it's a bad joke, that's a great joke.

2773
02:10:49,280 --> 02:10:52,120
Speaker 1: No, nigga, that's not how jokes work.

2774
02:10:53,320 --> 02:10:55,520
Speaker 2: Jane says the theme of this episode to never believe

2775
02:10:55,560 --> 02:10:58,160
Speaker 2: anything the police said on criminal's motivation because that reason

2776
02:10:58,200 --> 02:10:59,080
Speaker 2: I tought the bullshit.

2777
02:11:00,120 --> 02:11:03,000
Speaker 1: Olivia says, laughing harder ride you think this is a game.

2778
02:11:03,200 --> 02:11:10,880
Speaker 1: What is the braids treating me? You can't get your

2779
02:11:10,920 --> 02:11:11,880
Speaker 1: shit together over there?

2780
02:11:12,120 --> 02:11:15,320
Speaker 2: No, that's no, they're saying I should laugh hard I

2781
02:11:15,560 --> 02:11:17,560
Speaker 2: did a fake laugh. They said I need to laugh

2782
02:11:17,640 --> 02:11:20,720
Speaker 2: harder because I and they said, what is the braids?

2783
02:11:20,840 --> 02:11:25,760
Speaker 2: They said they like Kendrick and Drake says, Karen be

2784
02:11:25,920 --> 02:11:27,760
Speaker 2: killing me to her reactions are the best part of

2785
02:11:27,800 --> 02:11:29,520
Speaker 2: the show. I'm not Lulu Living. I would call the

2786
02:11:29,560 --> 02:11:30,600
Speaker 2: police on your black ass.

2787
02:11:30,960 --> 02:11:32,920
Speaker 1: I agree. I agree.

2788
02:11:33,600 --> 02:11:35,880
Speaker 2: Raphael says, oh no, someone thinks Karen is a one

2789
02:11:35,960 --> 02:11:38,120
Speaker 2: trick pony. It's like me taking a fist. When I

2790
02:11:38,160 --> 02:11:40,560
Speaker 2: first heard car say baby, I could have written in

2791
02:11:40,680 --> 02:11:44,080
Speaker 2: to say I'm a grown man or g r M

2792
02:11:44,680 --> 02:11:49,680
Speaker 2: while I was wearing a diaper. Alamney says, she's the

2793
02:11:49,800 --> 02:11:50,680
Speaker 2: kell to your Keenan.

2794
02:11:51,720 --> 02:11:57,440
Speaker 1: Uh what we are all that? Yes we are. Tyrrell

2795
02:11:57,600 --> 02:12:00,880
Speaker 1: says I used to demand apologies and kid them. God damn,

2796
02:12:01,120 --> 02:12:01,600
Speaker 1: and that's.

2797
02:12:01,520 --> 02:12:02,320
Speaker 3: On New Nude.

2798
02:12:02,960 --> 02:12:07,840
Speaker 1: God damn, that is true. I did get them apologies.

2799
02:12:08,840 --> 02:12:12,280
Speaker 1: Motherfucker was right. They was talking crazy. They was talking crazy.

2800
02:12:13,080 --> 02:12:15,680
Speaker 1: I don't regret that, by the way, I just don't

2801
02:12:15,880 --> 02:12:18,560
Speaker 1: know that. I just hope that. I just hope we

2802
02:12:18,640 --> 02:12:19,320
Speaker 1: don't have to see that.

2803
02:12:19,360 --> 02:12:21,320
Speaker 3: Again, you know what I mean, that's all you know

2804
02:12:21,360 --> 02:12:22,400
Speaker 3: what it's called growth.

2805
02:12:22,640 --> 02:12:24,840
Speaker 1: I still got fouls on people that said ship. They

2806
02:12:24,960 --> 02:12:27,080
Speaker 1: just don't know it. I'm like, I got them, I'm looking.

2807
02:12:27,160 --> 02:12:28,320
Speaker 1: I can look at him right now.

2808
02:12:30,680 --> 02:12:35,280
Speaker 2: I'm not saved right on this hard drive, government eat

2809
02:12:35,440 --> 02:12:36,720
Speaker 2: name everything.

2810
02:12:37,600 --> 02:12:40,560
Speaker 3: And oh and the thing is, you know, like grad

2811
02:12:40,640 --> 02:12:43,920
Speaker 3: just said, y'all have seen him get mad, upsetting. You

2812
02:12:44,040 --> 02:12:46,640
Speaker 3: know everybody has that in him. And the thing is

2813
02:12:46,840 --> 02:12:49,480
Speaker 3: a lot of that I do through Roderick. So yeah,

2814
02:12:49,800 --> 02:12:53,080
Speaker 3: people go, we carry this upset saying no, no, y'all.

2815
02:12:54,680 --> 02:12:54,880
Speaker 1: Mad.

2816
02:12:55,760 --> 02:12:58,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll try not to do it, just because I've

2817
02:12:58,880 --> 02:13:02,120
Speaker 2: noticed that when you do that shit, it's other people

2818
02:13:02,160 --> 02:13:02,839
Speaker 2: that's the problem.

2819
02:13:03,200 --> 02:13:06,000
Speaker 1: It's all, oh my god, I thought you were such

2820
02:13:06,000 --> 02:13:07,360
Speaker 1: a good person. I'm not.

2821
02:13:08,920 --> 02:13:11,440
Speaker 2: I'm a good person unless you keep fucking with me,

2822
02:13:11,480 --> 02:13:13,360
Speaker 2: and then I'm gonna be the person that you fucked

2823
02:13:13,360 --> 02:13:15,080
Speaker 2: with and you're not gonna like that.

2824
02:13:15,240 --> 02:13:17,640
Speaker 1: So leave that part of me alone. I'd like to

2825
02:13:17,840 --> 02:13:18,960
Speaker 1: not deal with that as well.

2826
02:13:19,240 --> 02:13:20,080
Speaker 3: Ain't that the drug?

2827
02:13:21,200 --> 02:13:24,640
Speaker 2: I avoid that? Like I said, I avoid that. I'm

2828
02:13:24,720 --> 02:13:27,680
Speaker 2: a person that is willing to burn us all down.

2829
02:13:29,040 --> 02:13:31,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't be more frank about it or

2830
02:13:31,920 --> 02:13:34,080
Speaker 2: more direct about it. It's not a joke, it's not

2831
02:13:34,280 --> 02:13:36,840
Speaker 2: part of humor. It's nothing cute about it. I don't

2832
02:13:36,880 --> 02:13:38,720
Speaker 2: even like it, but I've done it before and I

2833
02:13:38,760 --> 02:13:39,480
Speaker 2: don't give a fuck.

2834
02:13:39,560 --> 02:13:42,440
Speaker 1: I will do it again. Certain lines people shouldn't cross,

2835
02:13:42,600 --> 02:13:45,240
Speaker 1: and they know what them fucking lines are. I haven't

2836
02:13:45,280 --> 02:13:46,640
Speaker 1: had to do it in a long time. I hope

2837
02:13:46,640 --> 02:13:47,640
Speaker 1: I never have to do it for the rest of

2838
02:13:47,720 --> 02:13:50,560
Speaker 1: my life. But it's always some motherfuck out there that

2839
02:13:50,800 --> 02:13:53,600
Speaker 1: just gotta find out and then they regret finding the

2840
02:13:53,640 --> 02:13:54,080
Speaker 1: fuck out.

2841
02:13:54,480 --> 02:13:58,200
Speaker 2: Okay they and we've had episodes about that. Keena says

2842
02:13:58,240 --> 02:14:00,200
Speaker 2: that I never gonna show us to scrutinize right as

2843
02:14:00,240 --> 02:14:00,960
Speaker 2: hard as possible.

2844
02:14:01,080 --> 02:14:01,760
Speaker 1: Let care live.

2845
02:14:01,920 --> 02:14:05,040
Speaker 2: Rid said random at the beginning of the episode, just kidding.

2846
02:14:05,480 --> 02:14:08,080
Speaker 2: But my wife and I constantly go, oh no, like Karen,

2847
02:14:10,040 --> 02:14:13,440
Speaker 2: you need both of us, Yes you do. Some people

2848
02:14:13,560 --> 02:14:14,120
Speaker 2: just don't get.

2849
02:14:14,040 --> 02:14:16,360
Speaker 1: The fucking show. This won't work without both of us.

2850
02:14:17,200 --> 02:14:18,320
Speaker 1: You need to balance you.

2851
02:14:19,400 --> 02:14:22,280
Speaker 3: You need me coming out left field, you know, with

2852
02:14:22,440 --> 02:14:24,920
Speaker 3: my bad puns and rod tay that that's not good.

2853
02:14:25,000 --> 02:14:25,240
Speaker 1: Baby.

2854
02:14:25,280 --> 02:14:28,040
Speaker 2: You think you want to show better, You think you

2855
02:14:28,120 --> 02:14:30,600
Speaker 2: want to show That's just Karen saying ship and then

2856
02:14:30,720 --> 02:14:33,480
Speaker 2: nobody's saying nothing back, you know, which is crazy.

2857
02:14:34,000 --> 02:14:36,960
Speaker 1: That's crazy, Karen. I'm gonna read the articles. I read

2858
02:14:37,000 --> 02:14:37,640
Speaker 1: the articles.

2859
02:14:38,440 --> 02:14:39,680
Speaker 3: Ain't gonna read article.

2860
02:14:39,560 --> 02:14:43,240
Speaker 1: Like what y'all what do y'all want? Go listen to

2861
02:14:43,280 --> 02:14:43,880
Speaker 1: some other ship?

2862
02:14:44,160 --> 02:14:45,800
Speaker 3: You need us both, child?

2863
02:14:46,480 --> 02:14:47,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, all right.

2864
02:14:47,640 --> 02:14:51,480
Speaker 3: That's that's like having a cake without any sweetness. Yeah,

2865
02:14:51,520 --> 02:14:52,480
Speaker 3: you don't make sense.

2866
02:14:52,720 --> 02:14:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah you don't want to hear my ass talking and

2867
02:14:54,760 --> 02:14:59,160
Speaker 2: pontificating in circles a fucking day either, like you.

2868
02:15:00,240 --> 02:15:02,600
Speaker 1: It's good and bad to both of us. Yes, you

2869
02:15:02,680 --> 02:15:05,880
Speaker 1: need and yang Jesus. Anyway, all right.

2870
02:15:06,040 --> 02:15:09,800
Speaker 2: The last episode was stick a pole in it, which

2871
02:15:09,920 --> 02:15:12,720
Speaker 2: this always happens when we have new good guests.

2872
02:15:12,800 --> 02:15:15,440
Speaker 1: I don't know why it always happens, It just fucking happens.

2873
02:15:15,480 --> 02:15:16,800
Speaker 1: We only got one comment.

2874
02:15:17,600 --> 02:15:19,880
Speaker 2: Iba says the guests sounded very sweet, and if I

2875
02:15:20,040 --> 02:15:21,520
Speaker 2: was in New York, I would go to the show

2876
02:15:22,200 --> 02:15:24,560
Speaker 2: if you ever get a chance, if you please, dude.

2877
02:15:24,480 --> 02:15:25,320
Speaker 1: It's very worth it.

2878
02:15:25,480 --> 02:15:29,200
Speaker 2: And YouTube no comments now it also is the show

2879
02:15:29,240 --> 02:15:30,800
Speaker 2: that had the least of my time to get comments.

2880
02:15:30,840 --> 02:15:35,160
Speaker 2: But still this always happens, and it's weird because I know,

2881
02:15:35,360 --> 02:15:38,080
Speaker 2: in a weird way it's a mark of a great show. Yes,

2882
02:15:38,400 --> 02:15:40,520
Speaker 2: is that just just they were great guests because We've

2883
02:15:40,560 --> 02:15:43,040
Speaker 2: asked all the questions. There's nothing else to add. Unless

2884
02:15:43,080 --> 02:15:45,080
Speaker 2: you go to the show and experience it, you don't

2885
02:15:45,120 --> 02:15:46,920
Speaker 2: really have a thing to like give us.

2886
02:15:47,040 --> 02:15:49,880
Speaker 1: But but I always feel kind of weird because I'm like,

2887
02:15:50,000 --> 02:15:52,000
Speaker 1: they did a good job and they deserved to hear

2888
02:15:52,040 --> 02:15:53,680
Speaker 1: it was so much fun.

2889
02:15:55,760 --> 02:16:00,440
Speaker 2: And uh, I just realized I closed the wrong tab. Okay,

2890
02:16:00,560 --> 02:16:03,280
Speaker 2: because we still need the poll and Q of that

2891
02:16:03,520 --> 02:16:06,200
Speaker 2: all right? The poll was, have you ever been seeing

2892
02:16:06,280 --> 02:16:07,480
Speaker 2: pole dancing in person?

2893
02:16:07,880 --> 02:16:11,040
Speaker 1: Yes or no? Sixty six percent? Alist has thirty three

2894
02:16:11,040 --> 02:16:14,120
Speaker 1: percent is not. I would not have guessed something that

2895
02:16:14,440 --> 02:16:18,000
Speaker 1: high because I'm not counting. Well shit, I should have

2896
02:16:18,040 --> 02:16:21,160
Speaker 1: said not count stripping. Fuck because some of y'all probably

2897
02:16:21,240 --> 02:16:22,640
Speaker 1: count stripping yet.

2898
02:16:22,480 --> 02:16:25,280
Speaker 3: Because it's a pole right, but I but I want.

2899
02:16:25,200 --> 02:16:30,680
Speaker 1: Pole dancing, not stripping. So I fucked up, Poe. My

2900
02:16:30,840 --> 02:16:31,680
Speaker 1: science is fucked.

2901
02:16:31,800 --> 02:16:32,680
Speaker 3: That's why I'm so high.

2902
02:16:33,720 --> 02:16:36,280
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the people on Spotify got it forty percent yes,

2903
02:16:36,520 --> 02:16:39,400
Speaker 2: sixty percent no, which sounds probably more realistic.

2904
02:16:39,959 --> 02:16:42,360
Speaker 1: But maybe there are some freaks. I don't know, you

2905
02:16:42,440 --> 02:16:45,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, never know y'all might be polling dancing.

2906
02:16:46,280 --> 02:16:49,320
Speaker 2: Michelle says, I said, go see the show Michelle says,

2907
02:16:49,320 --> 02:16:51,240
Speaker 2: I'm going to New York City this weekend, but the

2908
02:16:51,280 --> 02:16:53,320
Speaker 2: show is next weekend. I'm definitely gonna try next time

2909
02:16:53,320 --> 02:16:55,880
Speaker 2: I visit. Key says, who knew? I learned about the

2910
02:16:55,920 --> 02:16:58,560
Speaker 2: aero dynamics of throwing ass today? But here we are

2911
02:16:58,720 --> 02:17:03,440
Speaker 2: insert Paul Rudd hot one look at us. Uh yeah,

2912
02:17:03,600 --> 02:17:05,840
Speaker 2: and that's you know, if nothing else, I'd like to

2913
02:17:05,920 --> 02:17:10,160
Speaker 2: have a show that can educate the audience on shaking

2914
02:17:10,200 --> 02:17:15,119
Speaker 2: that ass, the scientific version, you know. All right, let's

2915
02:17:15,160 --> 02:17:19,280
Speaker 2: get into the email, I mean, the voicemails.

2916
02:17:20,959 --> 02:17:24,560
Speaker 1: Let me see here. This is our first voicemail. Although

2917
02:17:24,680 --> 02:17:26,520
Speaker 1: this looks like it could be one of those weird

2918
02:17:26,600 --> 02:17:31,200
Speaker 1: blank ones, but Dallas, yeah, because this is from that

2919
02:17:31,360 --> 02:17:35,280
Speaker 1: area code. All right, all right, next one is from Erica.

2920
02:17:37,240 --> 02:17:38,039
Speaker 3: Bb uh.

2921
02:17:39,840 --> 02:17:49,360
Speaker 10: Bb what's up, Roddy Karen. It's this Erica Collins. First

2922
02:17:49,400 --> 02:17:53,400
Speaker 10: of all, that that dbo G thing has already been

2923
02:17:53,440 --> 02:17:56,200
Speaker 10: in my head, but I haven't bings listening to the

2924
02:17:56,280 --> 02:17:58,360
Speaker 10: last week of episodes because I was away on the cruise,

2925
02:17:58,800 --> 02:18:01,840
Speaker 10: and now it's even more in my head. So thank

2926
02:18:01,879 --> 02:18:03,640
Speaker 10: you for that. And I also want to thank you

2927
02:18:04,000 --> 02:18:09,240
Speaker 10: for your superb coverage of this beast because I had

2928
02:18:09,400 --> 02:18:14,160
Speaker 10: absolutely no idea why it was happening, but you just

2929
02:18:14,280 --> 02:18:17,760
Speaker 10: broke it down and I just really appreciate that, and

2930
02:18:18,200 --> 02:18:19,280
Speaker 10: it was it was just great.

2931
02:18:19,360 --> 02:18:19,520
Speaker 1: You know.

2932
02:18:19,640 --> 02:18:21,800
Speaker 10: I just think you guys are just all around amazing.

2933
02:18:23,520 --> 02:18:26,480
Speaker 10: I'm trying to keep this short, but I just you guys.

2934
02:18:26,560 --> 02:18:30,560
Speaker 10: I just love you guys so much. I think someone

2935
02:18:30,800 --> 02:18:33,360
Speaker 10: mentioned this in a last episode about how they feel

2936
02:18:33,360 --> 02:18:33,840
Speaker 10: about Drake.

2937
02:18:36,480 --> 02:18:38,200
Speaker 7: I used to be a really big Drake fan. I

2938
02:18:38,280 --> 02:18:41,440
Speaker 7: remember when he came to perform at my college when he.

2939
02:18:41,520 --> 02:18:46,760
Speaker 10: Was first starting out. And as I've grown, I don't

2940
02:18:46,840 --> 02:18:51,200
Speaker 10: enjoy him as much. You're right, and he has not

2941
02:18:51,560 --> 02:18:54,039
Speaker 10: really grown as an artist. I actually feel like he's

2942
02:18:54,240 --> 02:19:00,480
Speaker 10: regressed because at first I he had this nice boy persone, like,

2943
02:19:00,600 --> 02:19:02,800
Speaker 10: I thought he was nice and sensitive. They used to

2944
02:19:02,840 --> 02:19:05,879
Speaker 10: clown him, but now it's just like he has become

2945
02:19:06,720 --> 02:19:11,120
Speaker 10: like a fucked bitches, get money type dude, and that

2946
02:19:11,280 --> 02:19:13,480
Speaker 10: kind of turned me off. I mean, he still makes

2947
02:19:13,520 --> 02:19:16,800
Speaker 10: some bots, but as a full body of work. I

2948
02:19:16,920 --> 02:19:18,960
Speaker 10: stopped enjoying him a long time. So I think the

2949
02:19:19,080 --> 02:19:24,960
Speaker 10: last album I really really liked was probably Maybe take Care.

2950
02:19:29,440 --> 02:19:33,039
Speaker 10: Uh yeah, maybe maybe take Care. Probably maybe Yeah, that's

2951
02:19:33,120 --> 02:19:34,480
Speaker 10: I know the last one I bought was the one

2952
02:19:34,520 --> 02:19:39,440
Speaker 10: with the blue background, but Benn else today. Okay, it's

2953
02:19:39,560 --> 02:19:41,640
Speaker 10: Eric again. Oh I was just trying to say that

2954
02:19:42,160 --> 02:19:46,160
Speaker 10: my favorite Drake was so Far Gone as an album,

2955
02:19:46,280 --> 02:19:48,800
Speaker 10: but no, I'm sorry. Yeah, the so Far Going mixhape,

2956
02:19:48,800 --> 02:19:52,560
Speaker 10: that's my favorite Drake by of work, and then album

2957
02:19:52,600 --> 02:19:57,920
Speaker 10: officially is Thank Me Later. I just don't really enjoy

2958
02:19:58,040 --> 02:20:01,160
Speaker 10: him as much anymore. I don't hate and I think

2959
02:20:01,760 --> 02:20:04,880
Speaker 10: his best course of action would be to take a

2960
02:20:04,920 --> 02:20:09,320
Speaker 10: break from music and pivot back to acting and then

2961
02:20:09,440 --> 02:20:13,920
Speaker 10: maybe revisit music in a couple of years, maybe do

2962
02:20:14,080 --> 02:20:17,480
Speaker 10: some maturing. All right, Well, again, thank you guys for

2963
02:20:18,240 --> 02:20:22,439
Speaker 10: just being all around amazing. You're my favorite favorite favorite podcast.

2964
02:20:22,800 --> 02:20:24,959
Speaker 10: I'm hoping we can get a live show this year.

2965
02:20:26,720 --> 02:20:27,400
Speaker 6: Have a great day.

2966
02:20:28,360 --> 02:20:30,760
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely gotta get us a live show this year.

2967
02:20:30,920 --> 02:20:32,240
Speaker 1: And thank you Erica.

2968
02:20:33,520 --> 02:20:36,920
Speaker 2: And yeah, I totally agree with you that era Drake

2969
02:20:37,280 --> 02:20:39,800
Speaker 2: was the only Drake that I actually was like, Oh,

2970
02:20:39,879 --> 02:20:42,800
Speaker 2: who's this guy now. Part of it was because when

2971
02:20:42,840 --> 02:20:46,440
Speaker 2: I listen to So Far Gone, I thought to myself, Oh,

2972
02:20:46,600 --> 02:20:49,560
Speaker 2: this guy is gonna go on to become a rapper

2973
02:20:49,760 --> 02:20:52,840
Speaker 2: rapper and he kind of never got there.

2974
02:20:52,920 --> 02:20:53,760
Speaker 1: He always was.

2975
02:20:53,840 --> 02:20:59,600
Speaker 2: Making half very bad singing, half rap, and so I

2976
02:20:59,680 --> 02:21:02,600
Speaker 2: think that's why I never truly became a full fledged

2977
02:21:02,640 --> 02:21:03,080
Speaker 2: fan of his.

2978
02:21:03,959 --> 02:21:07,000
Speaker 1: And I think when he made that shift towards the very.

2979
02:21:09,000 --> 02:21:12,080
Speaker 2: Misogynistic in the like direct way where he went from

2980
02:21:12,200 --> 02:21:14,880
Speaker 2: like your girl by my tape, even if you hate

2981
02:21:14,959 --> 02:21:17,400
Speaker 2: know me, and turned into like, actually, and I hate

2982
02:21:17,440 --> 02:21:20,520
Speaker 2: these women too. I'm a dog got dog women out

2983
02:21:20,720 --> 02:21:23,120
Speaker 2: fuck making the stallion, fuck Rihanna Fox Arena.

2984
02:21:23,760 --> 02:21:23,880
Speaker 3: Uh.

2985
02:21:25,840 --> 02:21:28,640
Speaker 1: I just I never made it over to that side.

2986
02:21:28,680 --> 02:21:31,680
Speaker 2: I just always was like, he'll have a single here

2987
02:21:31,720 --> 02:21:34,840
Speaker 2: and there, he'll have like some rap songs that I

2988
02:21:35,320 --> 02:21:38,240
Speaker 2: like when he rap raps. But I'll never really truly

2989
02:21:38,360 --> 02:21:41,440
Speaker 2: be the fan that I am of other artists because

2990
02:21:41,440 --> 02:21:43,640
Speaker 2: I don't feel like I know this guy, right, you know,

2991
02:21:44,480 --> 02:21:44,920
Speaker 2: all right.

2992
02:21:44,959 --> 02:21:48,720
Speaker 1: This person left three voice mails I believe. Okay, all right,

2993
02:21:48,920 --> 02:21:53,240
Speaker 1: let's see what they had to say. So I just.

2994
02:21:56,200 --> 02:21:59,879
Speaker 9: We've really been talking about how like a little mord

2995
02:22:00,240 --> 02:22:05,880
Speaker 9: is a diabolical genius. I think Drake really underestimated what

2996
02:22:06,120 --> 02:22:10,120
Speaker 9: an artist, how they can immortalize you, whether they love you,

2997
02:22:10,240 --> 02:22:13,120
Speaker 9: whether they hate you, Like there's reason going down in person.

2998
02:22:13,520 --> 02:22:16,160
Speaker 9: The ship would be studied in institutions of higher learning.

2999
02:22:16,760 --> 02:22:19,320
Speaker 7: But I went back to go watch.

3000
02:22:19,240 --> 02:22:21,560
Speaker 9: The YouTube video of Nutha Grahames this morning, and we

3001
02:22:21,640 --> 02:22:24,960
Speaker 9: all know it's the picture was like the meditations or

3002
02:22:25,000 --> 02:22:27,240
Speaker 9: the environment or those intens and all of the stuff,

3003
02:22:27,560 --> 02:22:30,160
Speaker 9: and it's felt familiar to me, like I've seen it before.

3004
02:22:30,200 --> 02:22:31,959
Speaker 9: It's so familiar, Like kept trying to figure out watching

3005
02:22:32,080 --> 02:22:35,160
Speaker 9: for familiar and then it hit me today. It reminded

3006
02:22:35,200 --> 02:22:38,960
Speaker 9: me of that picture that somebody sold to the tabulary

3007
02:22:39,320 --> 02:22:43,120
Speaker 9: of Whitney, these things vanity like this looks perpmale on it,

3008
02:22:43,200 --> 02:22:45,200
Speaker 9: and like understanding me, a lot of people including me,

3009
02:22:45,320 --> 02:22:47,880
Speaker 9: was pissed off that, you know, somebody would sell that.

3010
02:22:48,520 --> 02:22:51,440
Speaker 9: But then somebody used that out that picture for an

3011
02:22:51,480 --> 02:22:55,400
Speaker 9: album cover and it was pusher motherfucking.

3012
02:22:54,800 --> 02:22:58,080
Speaker 7: People the way they kendricks lair.

3013
02:22:57,959 --> 02:23:05,080
Speaker 9: Things right on playing sight like yo, like he's chefs

3014
02:23:06,600 --> 02:23:11,640
Speaker 9: sting the whole nother galaxy. And to be quite honest,

3015
02:23:12,080 --> 02:23:13,720
Speaker 9: but I just wanted to say that because I didn't

3016
02:23:13,920 --> 02:23:17,720
Speaker 9: call anybody sort of mentioning the similarity between. So that's it,

3017
02:23:18,040 --> 02:23:19,360
Speaker 9: love y'all. I hope you're having a good dance.

3018
02:23:20,240 --> 02:23:22,800
Speaker 2: Oh that's crazy. Yeah, he was playing some bot from

3019
02:23:23,160 --> 02:23:26,800
Speaker 2: Star Wars. But yeah, it's it's interesting. I didn't make

3020
02:23:26,879 --> 02:23:29,360
Speaker 2: that connection. But now that they have this Twitter account

3021
02:23:29,400 --> 02:23:34,400
Speaker 2: whereas person has been like showing video of having that stuff.

3022
02:23:34,560 --> 02:23:38,120
Speaker 2: Still I'm guessing that that's the person that took the

3023
02:23:38,200 --> 02:23:41,879
Speaker 2: picture of something that arranged it. But yeah, it's now

3024
02:23:41,920 --> 02:23:45,600
Speaker 2: it's getting like super weird creepy levels on Twitter, and

3025
02:23:45,640 --> 02:23:47,480
Speaker 2: I've kind of opted out of the conspiracy.

3026
02:23:48,440 --> 02:23:50,080
Speaker 3: We're getting down to the point where you don't know

3027
02:23:50,120 --> 02:23:51,400
Speaker 3: what's true, you don't know what's not.

3028
02:23:52,080 --> 02:23:53,480
Speaker 1: They're not actually true.

3029
02:23:53,640 --> 02:23:56,720
Speaker 3: Journalists is actually gonna piece things together, and everything is

3030
02:23:56,720 --> 02:23:59,720
Speaker 3: about attention now, so people are just coming through making

3031
02:23:59,760 --> 02:24:01,640
Speaker 3: suit up. We don't know if their statements are true.

3032
02:24:01,680 --> 02:24:04,360
Speaker 3: Nobody's going to investigate those people. Don't nobody know if

3033
02:24:04,400 --> 02:24:06,560
Speaker 3: these people are real people in the first place. So

3034
02:24:06,720 --> 02:24:09,520
Speaker 3: once you start going down those rabbit holes, it's completely

3035
02:24:09,560 --> 02:24:12,240
Speaker 3: different than me making this song and I officially am

3036
02:24:12,320 --> 02:24:14,160
Speaker 3: putting it up on Spotify. You go, oh, that song

3037
02:24:14,320 --> 02:24:16,520
Speaker 3: is real. Like once you kind of get outside of

3038
02:24:16,600 --> 02:24:19,760
Speaker 3: that rim and into the conspiracy theories, that's something like

3039
02:24:21,040 --> 02:24:24,440
Speaker 3: these things, you know, it is different. Like the people

3040
02:24:24,520 --> 02:24:26,480
Speaker 3: up in Canada there was like, hey, we went and

3041
02:24:26,560 --> 02:24:29,160
Speaker 3: got official records to find out about that security company.

3042
02:24:29,240 --> 02:24:31,960
Speaker 3: That's journalism. Like, if it's not anything like that, I

3043
02:24:32,040 --> 02:24:33,600
Speaker 3: don't want to go down those rabbit holes.

3044
02:24:34,720 --> 02:24:36,359
Speaker 1: She did leave two more voicemails.

3045
02:24:37,879 --> 02:24:44,480
Speaker 7: Hey, it's Keana. I was listening to an episode for

3046
02:24:44,600 --> 02:24:48,000
Speaker 7: the second time and y'all were talking about the I

3047
02:24:48,080 --> 02:24:50,600
Speaker 7: think it's the BDS protesting. Y'all mentioned Keith Lee and

3048
02:24:50,640 --> 02:24:53,760
Speaker 7: how people are trying to like essentially get Keith Lee

3049
02:24:53,840 --> 02:24:57,600
Speaker 7: canceled because he had this partnership with Pizza Hut. And

3050
02:24:58,320 --> 02:25:02,000
Speaker 7: then you also made a comparison to like civil rights

3051
02:25:03,400 --> 02:25:06,320
Speaker 7: protests and boycotting and things. Is that in the past.

3052
02:25:06,800 --> 02:25:08,760
Speaker 7: And another thing that I think we don't really talk

3053
02:25:08,760 --> 02:25:11,680
Speaker 7: about enough when we talk about the younger people who

3054
02:25:11,680 --> 02:25:14,440
Speaker 7: are creating a protest now and the younger people who

3055
02:25:14,520 --> 02:25:17,040
Speaker 7: created the protests and like our parents and grandparents generation,

3056
02:25:17,680 --> 02:25:22,840
Speaker 7: is just the accessibility of information for people who are

3057
02:25:23,000 --> 02:25:25,880
Speaker 7: interested in learning more about the protests, like especially around us,

3058
02:25:25,959 --> 02:25:30,560
Speaker 7: like Palestine is real, Gayza West Bank situation. It's been

3059
02:25:30,600 --> 02:25:32,040
Speaker 7: going on for such a long time, but it's so

3060
02:25:32,280 --> 02:25:35,040
Speaker 7: layered and it's so deep, and a lot of people

3061
02:25:35,160 --> 02:25:39,400
Speaker 7: really don't understand what the true nature of the conflict

3062
02:25:39,520 --> 02:25:43,240
Speaker 7: is I think people one hundred percent feel like so

3063
02:25:43,320 --> 02:25:46,000
Speaker 7: many people in Palestine should not be dying, they're being murdered.

3064
02:25:46,040 --> 02:25:48,520
Speaker 7: We are businessing a genocide. Number one is not the

3065
02:25:48,560 --> 02:25:51,600
Speaker 7: first time that it's happened, but we are businessing a genocide.

3066
02:25:52,160 --> 02:25:54,480
Speaker 7: But people don't really know, they don't really know how

3067
02:25:54,520 --> 02:25:57,960
Speaker 7: to articulate. And the new kids who are sort of

3068
02:25:58,000 --> 02:26:03,680
Speaker 7: responsible for the protest, they give these very academic, unaccessible

3069
02:26:03,840 --> 02:26:07,040
Speaker 7: explanations for people who would probably be more on their

3070
02:26:07,200 --> 02:26:09,840
Speaker 7: side if they just talk to people like they have

3071
02:26:09,959 --> 02:26:12,040
Speaker 7: some goddamn sense, Like if you talk to me in

3072
02:26:12,120 --> 02:26:14,480
Speaker 7: a way that is relatable to me, you can more

3073
02:26:14,560 --> 02:26:16,680
Speaker 7: easily pull me onto your side. If you can make

3074
02:26:16,800 --> 02:26:20,400
Speaker 7: that protest relate to like people's every day struggle or

3075
02:26:20,440 --> 02:26:22,760
Speaker 7: help them to see why it's important cause without talking

3076
02:26:22,879 --> 02:26:25,160
Speaker 7: over them or kind of seeing them or making them

3077
02:26:25,240 --> 02:26:27,960
Speaker 7: feel bad because they're not as like studied and learned

3078
02:26:27,959 --> 02:26:31,080
Speaker 7: as you, then you could probably make more progress. But

3079
02:26:31,120 --> 02:26:34,800
Speaker 7: then also like the whole thing of we're blocking celebrities, Okay, Beyonce,

3080
02:26:34,800 --> 02:26:38,680
Speaker 7: the still so how many millions I'll by Lady's gonna

3081
02:26:38,680 --> 02:26:40,840
Speaker 7: be playing shait kick you off that voice now? So

3082
02:26:41,040 --> 02:26:43,240
Speaker 7: just to super like wrap it up super quick. I

3083
02:26:43,360 --> 02:26:46,200
Speaker 7: think if if the if the kids, now, who are

3084
02:26:46,560 --> 02:26:49,520
Speaker 7: you know, sort of behind that sort of section of

3085
02:26:49,560 --> 02:26:52,560
Speaker 7: the protest. It's not only like they want to do

3086
02:26:52,680 --> 02:26:56,520
Speaker 7: this thing where it's a moral, you know, morally superior thing,

3087
02:26:56,600 --> 02:27:01,440
Speaker 7: but also like they're really getting off on being able

3088
02:27:01,520 --> 02:27:07,960
Speaker 7: to act like they're intellectually superior. Being an intellectual doesn't

3089
02:27:08,440 --> 02:27:14,080
Speaker 7: just correlate with how many years you spent in school

3090
02:27:14,120 --> 02:27:14,360
Speaker 7: and how.

3091
02:27:14,280 --> 02:27:15,080
Speaker 1: Many degrees you have.

3092
02:27:15,760 --> 02:27:18,120
Speaker 7: If you don't understand that the purpose, the sole purpose

3093
02:27:18,200 --> 02:27:21,200
Speaker 7: of language is to communicate ideas, and you're trying to

3094
02:27:21,320 --> 02:27:24,640
Speaker 7: rally people together, but you can't communicate ideas to them. Really,

3095
02:27:24,680 --> 02:27:27,600
Speaker 7: how smart are you? So anyway, that's all I wanted

3096
02:27:27,600 --> 02:27:29,160
Speaker 7: to say. O, love y'all, Hope y'all are having a

3097
02:27:29,200 --> 02:27:29,560
Speaker 7: great day.

3098
02:27:29,680 --> 02:27:29,920
Speaker 1: Bye.

3099
02:27:31,120 --> 02:27:31,360
Speaker 7: Yeah.

3100
02:27:31,600 --> 02:27:33,880
Speaker 1: I think on two I agree with you. I think

3101
02:27:33,920 --> 02:27:34,680
Speaker 1: on two fronts.

3102
02:27:35,040 --> 02:27:38,160
Speaker 2: Like one of the differences is that in those civil

3103
02:27:38,280 --> 02:27:41,280
Speaker 2: rights movement there's a structural hierarchy and that there was

3104
02:27:41,400 --> 02:27:46,200
Speaker 2: like leadership and committees and even and the optics of

3105
02:27:46,280 --> 02:27:49,440
Speaker 2: it was considered a lot. And so there's a reason

3106
02:27:49,520 --> 02:27:52,680
Speaker 2: we all think MLK did the march. But then you

3107
02:27:52,800 --> 02:27:55,720
Speaker 2: look behind the scenes, and you see how many people

3108
02:27:55,800 --> 02:27:59,280
Speaker 2: contributed to these marches and movements, and you realize, no,

3109
02:27:59,400 --> 02:28:01,959
Speaker 2: they wanted us to think it was a one man

3110
02:28:02,360 --> 02:28:04,920
Speaker 2: movement because they decided that shit a long time ago,

3111
02:28:05,080 --> 02:28:06,800
Speaker 2: that it was going to look like that for certain

3112
02:28:06,879 --> 02:28:11,600
Speaker 2: movements that they had in certain moments, and that stuff

3113
02:28:11,640 --> 02:28:17,640
Speaker 2: became very important, and I think now we can't The

3114
02:28:17,720 --> 02:28:21,080
Speaker 2: second part of this is without the structural hierarchy, we

3115
02:28:21,320 --> 02:28:29,160
Speaker 2: can't really control or divorce ourselves from the the motivation

3116
02:28:29,320 --> 02:28:31,800
Speaker 2: and impetus to turn the camera towards ourselves and be

3117
02:28:31,959 --> 02:28:35,080
Speaker 2: individual stars because that is what our social media, that

3118
02:28:35,240 --> 02:28:37,840
Speaker 2: is the currency of social media attention. And it doesn't

3119
02:28:38,240 --> 02:28:41,320
Speaker 2: so like we're not supposed to just play our role.

3120
02:28:41,560 --> 02:28:44,240
Speaker 2: We're supposed to be a star. We're all the leader

3121
02:28:44,320 --> 02:28:46,920
Speaker 2: of the movement. Now, we're all a leader on our

3122
02:28:46,959 --> 02:28:51,000
Speaker 2: own page, and we're all influencing everybody on our own platform,

3123
02:28:51,440 --> 02:28:56,240
Speaker 2: as opposed to like, I think what would mirror this

3124
02:28:56,600 --> 02:28:58,680
Speaker 2: now would be if there were And I'm not saying

3125
02:28:58,760 --> 02:29:00,680
Speaker 2: people should do this, do it whatever you want that

3126
02:29:00,800 --> 02:29:02,520
Speaker 2: I'm not telling anybody that right or wrong.

3127
02:29:03,040 --> 02:29:07,160
Speaker 1: But I think if we wanted to have like an

3128
02:29:07,240 --> 02:29:08,520
Speaker 1: old school approach to it.

3129
02:29:09,120 --> 02:29:12,640
Speaker 2: It would look something like everybody sharing the one video

3130
02:29:12,879 --> 02:29:16,040
Speaker 2: of the person who is speaking up to explain to

3131
02:29:16,160 --> 02:29:19,480
Speaker 2: everybody what the conflict is about, how we're gonna resolve it,

3132
02:29:19,840 --> 02:29:22,320
Speaker 2: and why what everyone's role is in it, and da

3133
02:29:22,440 --> 02:29:25,160
Speaker 2: da da. It would basically be like we're all just

3134
02:29:25,400 --> 02:29:28,080
Speaker 2: in line showing the world we're behind this person, and

3135
02:29:28,160 --> 02:29:30,680
Speaker 2: when you log onto any social media, you just see

3136
02:29:30,680 --> 02:29:35,880
Speaker 2: the same fucking video from everybody that's closer to the

3137
02:29:36,640 --> 02:29:39,880
Speaker 2: vibe of what those movements were. Now we actually have

3138
02:29:40,160 --> 02:29:43,600
Speaker 2: like everyone explaining for themselves, and that is when ego

3139
02:29:43,680 --> 02:29:46,000
Speaker 2: gets into it. That is also why these motherfuckers fight

3140
02:29:46,120 --> 02:29:48,000
Speaker 2: so much, even though they be on the same side,

3141
02:29:48,040 --> 02:29:51,480
Speaker 2: because while you're getting all attention, I'm not getting enough attention.

3142
02:29:51,680 --> 02:29:53,680
Speaker 2: Well you got you said something a little bit different

3143
02:29:53,680 --> 02:29:55,959
Speaker 2: than what I said, even though we want the same thing,

3144
02:29:56,120 --> 02:29:58,040
Speaker 2: fuck you, you know, And so we end up with

3145
02:29:58,280 --> 02:30:01,400
Speaker 2: a lot of noise in the thing in the in

3146
02:30:01,720 --> 02:30:06,280
Speaker 2: these movements that you know, just kind of hurts the optics.

3147
02:30:06,320 --> 02:30:09,960
Speaker 2: But once again, I, you know, I if this is

3148
02:30:10,000 --> 02:30:12,600
Speaker 2: how people want to engage, they can. I just don't

3149
02:30:12,680 --> 02:30:19,120
Speaker 2: necessarily think the blocking celebrities thing is really productive and

3150
02:30:19,200 --> 02:30:21,760
Speaker 2: I don't think it'll work towards the goal. I just

3151
02:30:21,840 --> 02:30:24,760
Speaker 2: think I and and that in my heart of hearts,

3152
02:30:24,800 --> 02:30:26,800
Speaker 2: I truly do believe a lot of that's just staying

3153
02:30:26,879 --> 02:30:30,840
Speaker 2: culture ship running up because everyone excuses the ones they

3154
02:30:31,040 --> 02:30:32,279
Speaker 2: like for the most part.

3155
02:30:32,120 --> 02:30:34,480
Speaker 1: They're not as mad they could. You can put them

3156
02:30:34,480 --> 02:30:34,880
Speaker 1: on the list.

3157
02:30:34,959 --> 02:30:37,960
Speaker 2: Even you ain't as mad at the ones you like

3158
02:30:38,040 --> 02:30:40,360
Speaker 2: as the ones like like you said, like someone wrote

3159
02:30:40,400 --> 02:30:43,160
Speaker 2: in oh I blocked the Kardashians, Yeah, you already hate them.

3160
02:30:44,120 --> 02:30:46,600
Speaker 2: So that's not they didn't mean shit. That's not a movement.

3161
02:30:46,760 --> 02:30:49,360
Speaker 2: That's that's something you already doing. It's you know, it's

3162
02:30:49,440 --> 02:30:51,440
Speaker 2: me being like I refuse to eat and then some

3163
02:30:51,600 --> 02:30:54,279
Speaker 2: restaurant that I hate that I'll never go to. Okay,

3164
02:30:55,720 --> 02:30:56,720
Speaker 2: all right, okay.

3165
02:30:57,040 --> 02:31:00,120
Speaker 3: And also I think for me, you bring up a

3166
02:31:00,200 --> 02:31:06,440
Speaker 3: great point and not always, but a lot of people,

3167
02:31:06,760 --> 02:31:08,600
Speaker 3: and I do agree with a lot of people that

3168
02:31:08,680 --> 02:31:13,200
Speaker 3: are highly educated are not breaking things down for common people.

3169
02:31:14,200 --> 02:31:17,080
Speaker 3: And when you do that, you lose the masses. And

3170
02:31:17,160 --> 02:31:20,000
Speaker 3: the masses are going to be the ones that's actually

3171
02:31:20,080 --> 02:31:22,560
Speaker 3: going to help whatever your cause is and to push

3172
02:31:22,640 --> 02:31:25,880
Speaker 3: it out further than just you. And so if they

3173
02:31:26,040 --> 02:31:29,119
Speaker 3: don't really understand or they're going off of half information,

3174
02:31:29,240 --> 02:31:32,800
Speaker 3: because the thing is, how can we say this. You're

3175
02:31:32,959 --> 02:31:35,680
Speaker 3: educated and you're smart, so people are looking at you,

3176
02:31:36,120 --> 02:31:38,320
Speaker 3: not trying funny, to be the one with the knowledge

3177
02:31:38,920 --> 02:31:42,600
Speaker 3: and the wisdom to help them understand these things. And

3178
02:31:42,920 --> 02:31:45,520
Speaker 3: you took it upon yourself on social media to be

3179
02:31:45,680 --> 02:31:48,480
Speaker 3: this arberture of hey, I know what all I'm here,

3180
02:31:48,720 --> 02:31:51,240
Speaker 3: I'm here for it. So people are gonna have regardless

3181
02:31:51,240 --> 02:31:52,600
Speaker 3: of how you feel about it, people are going to

3182
02:31:52,640 --> 02:31:56,800
Speaker 3: have put that expectation upon you. And the thing about uh,

3183
02:31:57,360 --> 02:32:02,000
Speaker 3: protesting and things like this, a lot of times people

3184
02:32:02,360 --> 02:32:05,400
Speaker 3: say things a protest when they're not really a protest.

3185
02:32:05,520 --> 02:32:07,600
Speaker 3: They're just we just don't like this or whatever it

3186
02:32:07,680 --> 02:32:11,920
Speaker 3: may may be. Because when you protest, there's demands, there's

3187
02:32:12,080 --> 02:32:15,080
Speaker 3: a you know, these are the things we won't change,

3188
02:32:15,440 --> 02:32:19,840
Speaker 3: and you know these are are our list, and you

3189
02:32:19,959 --> 02:32:23,360
Speaker 3: know once you meet these we're going to quote unquote

3190
02:32:23,400 --> 02:32:26,480
Speaker 3: come back. But a lot of times people protest ship

3191
02:32:26,600 --> 02:32:28,640
Speaker 3: like right to say that you were never consuming in

3192
02:32:28,680 --> 02:32:31,280
Speaker 3: the first place, that you that you never took part of,

3193
02:32:31,480 --> 02:32:35,360
Speaker 3: So I am not losing somebody that was never my

3194
02:32:35,480 --> 02:32:36,520
Speaker 3: targeted at audience.

3195
02:32:36,680 --> 02:32:40,920
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, yeah, it's it's it's it's if you

3196
02:32:41,000 --> 02:32:44,280
Speaker 2: had a bus boycott but nobody was using the bus

3197
02:32:44,360 --> 02:32:45,080
Speaker 2: in the first place.

3198
02:32:45,800 --> 02:32:47,240
Speaker 1: If everybody was driving.

3199
02:32:46,959 --> 02:32:49,400
Speaker 2: Then the bus boycott means nothing because no one the

3200
02:32:49,480 --> 02:32:50,840
Speaker 2: bus did they didn't lose sh it.

3201
02:32:51,680 --> 02:32:51,800
Speaker 3: You know.

3202
02:32:52,120 --> 02:32:54,240
Speaker 2: It's and then also I think for a lot of

3203
02:32:54,280 --> 02:32:59,760
Speaker 2: this stuff, it's it's. It even turns into something that

3204
02:32:59,879 --> 02:33:03,560
Speaker 2: is not supposed to be, which is, I'm not riding

3205
02:33:03,680 --> 02:33:07,080
Speaker 2: the bus. You negroes are riding the bus you got

3206
02:33:07,280 --> 02:33:10,400
Speaker 2: because you don't care as much as me. And it's like, no,

3207
02:33:10,600 --> 02:33:13,959
Speaker 2: you just have a car like like that's so I think,

3208
02:33:14,200 --> 02:33:15,920
Speaker 2: you know, it's just not the movements of old but

3209
02:33:16,000 --> 02:33:17,880
Speaker 2: that's okay. This is what the new movements look like,

3210
02:33:18,000 --> 02:33:20,080
Speaker 2: and we'll see if they can affect policy. This way,

3211
02:33:20,200 --> 02:33:23,000
Speaker 2: it doesn't seem to be something that would affect policy.

3212
02:33:23,080 --> 02:33:27,720
Speaker 1: And it really hurts young folks, young folks.

3213
02:33:27,520 --> 02:33:31,000
Speaker 2: Because they don't really vote and so and voting it

3214
02:33:31,080 --> 02:33:33,520
Speaker 2: turned out has been this way my entire life, your

3215
02:33:33,680 --> 02:33:36,480
Speaker 2: entire life, in the lives of everyone in America, because

3216
02:33:36,560 --> 02:33:40,920
Speaker 2: the under twenty five vote has always uh not turned

3217
02:33:40,959 --> 02:33:44,520
Speaker 2: out period for any candidate, even Obama. Now, like even

3218
02:33:44,560 --> 02:33:47,040
Speaker 2: what we call high turnout is still much lower turnout

3219
02:33:47,080 --> 02:33:48,119
Speaker 2: than the other age groups.

3220
02:33:48,600 --> 02:33:52,880
Speaker 1: So it's just, you know, very unfortunate. But yeah, we'll

3221
02:33:52,879 --> 02:33:53,480
Speaker 1: see how it goes.

3222
02:33:53,760 --> 02:33:56,520
Speaker 3: And one more thing to piggyback on something you said

3223
02:33:57,000 --> 02:34:01,720
Speaker 3: when you was talking about all these other pieces played

3224
02:34:02,000 --> 02:34:07,160
Speaker 3: roles behind the illusion of Martin Luther King being the

3225
02:34:07,240 --> 02:34:10,200
Speaker 3: forefront and him quote unquote being able to pull all

3226
02:34:10,240 --> 02:34:12,959
Speaker 3: these magic tricks with no help, even though everybody knows

3227
02:34:13,000 --> 02:34:17,320
Speaker 3: that's impossible, but that's the illusion of the forefront. Also,

3228
02:34:18,480 --> 02:34:22,040
Speaker 3: to add to what you were saying, people don't want

3229
02:34:22,120 --> 02:34:24,200
Speaker 3: to be you put like this. When you have something

3230
02:34:24,240 --> 02:34:27,000
Speaker 3: that's a body, you need the body to function, which

3231
02:34:27,080 --> 02:34:29,760
Speaker 3: means everybody. You can't have eighteen mouthpieces the body. There's

3232
02:34:29,760 --> 02:34:31,920
Speaker 3: something wrong with the body that looks like that. You

3233
02:34:32,040 --> 02:34:35,160
Speaker 3: need people to do other things, and nobody wants to

3234
02:34:35,240 --> 02:34:37,880
Speaker 3: do other things. Everybody wants to be the mouthpiece, but

3235
02:34:38,000 --> 02:34:40,880
Speaker 3: nobody wants to, you know, be the be the people

3236
02:34:40,959 --> 02:34:43,640
Speaker 3: that lay out things, be the people this the support group,

3237
02:34:43,720 --> 02:34:45,680
Speaker 3: be the people for the food or nobody else wants

3238
02:34:45,760 --> 02:34:50,840
Speaker 3: to do the hard work that actually helps the calls.

3239
02:34:51,760 --> 02:34:55,680
Speaker 3: And particularly on social media, Now there are people out

3240
02:34:55,720 --> 02:34:57,480
Speaker 3: there doing this, but a lot of times people that

3241
02:34:57,560 --> 02:35:00,560
Speaker 3: are actually doing that, they're not on social media, they're

3242
02:35:00,600 --> 02:35:03,520
Speaker 3: doing those types of things. And so you got to

3243
02:35:03,680 --> 02:35:06,520
Speaker 3: have a face in the front, but you have to

3244
02:35:06,640 --> 02:35:08,600
Speaker 3: have these other things that are willing to do the

3245
02:35:08,720 --> 02:35:12,720
Speaker 3: other parts. And when nobody wants to do the other parts,

3246
02:35:12,959 --> 02:35:16,720
Speaker 3: and the body starts fighting itself by going, you know,

3247
02:35:16,840 --> 02:35:18,840
Speaker 3: the feet going, well, why ain't not the face and

3248
02:35:18,920 --> 02:35:20,960
Speaker 3: the faith you know, and an eye you know, and

3249
02:35:21,040 --> 02:35:22,720
Speaker 3: a hand going, why a' not of eyes? All of

3250
02:35:22,760 --> 02:35:26,000
Speaker 3: a sudden you have this discord and this dysfunction, you know,

3251
02:35:26,080 --> 02:35:29,840
Speaker 3: within the body. But yet you want something massive to happen,

3252
02:35:30,400 --> 02:35:33,960
Speaker 3: but there's no unity. But in the age of social media,

3253
02:35:33,959 --> 02:35:36,000
Speaker 3: it's very hard to be unity, to be to have

3254
02:35:36,120 --> 02:35:38,879
Speaker 3: an illusion of unity. Because even with Martin, Luther King

3255
02:35:38,920 --> 02:35:41,280
Speaker 3: and all them, everybody went and unified, everybody agreed with them,

3256
02:35:41,360 --> 02:35:44,480
Speaker 3: with them said, but because everybody had the same cause.

3257
02:35:44,480 --> 02:35:47,040
Speaker 3: And also, I think too, we are in the age

3258
02:35:47,320 --> 02:35:50,240
Speaker 3: where all black people don't have the same causes, and

3259
02:35:50,400 --> 02:35:51,320
Speaker 3: so where everybody do.

3260
02:35:52,520 --> 02:35:56,720
Speaker 2: This is necessarily a black thing. Okay, this isn't even

3261
02:35:56,760 --> 02:36:00,240
Speaker 2: about organizing the black people. This is a you're either

3262
02:36:00,680 --> 02:36:03,160
Speaker 2: a person that sees what's happening in the gaysa and

3263
02:36:03,320 --> 02:36:05,760
Speaker 2: you think it should stop, or you're a person that

3264
02:36:06,120 --> 02:36:09,480
Speaker 2: doesn't give a fuck, or you're a person that thinks

3265
02:36:09,520 --> 02:36:12,440
Speaker 2: it's more should happen to God, more people, It should

3266
02:36:12,440 --> 02:36:16,200
Speaker 2: be more bombs and shit. But I don't like this

3267
02:36:16,400 --> 02:36:18,480
Speaker 2: isn't even just about us all come together.

3268
02:36:18,280 --> 02:36:18,879
Speaker 1: As black people.

3269
02:36:19,000 --> 02:36:23,400
Speaker 2: Like this is just people being disorganized. And I think

3270
02:36:23,560 --> 02:36:27,440
Speaker 2: the celebrity thing is very complicated. Maybe we'll talk about

3271
02:36:27,440 --> 02:36:29,879
Speaker 2: it in depth a different day. It's just a very

3272
02:36:29,959 --> 02:36:35,080
Speaker 2: complicated relationship that people have with celebrity and perceive jealousy

3273
02:36:35,160 --> 02:36:38,920
Speaker 2: and fame and perceive power and perceive control that these

3274
02:36:38,959 --> 02:36:42,440
Speaker 2: celebrities don't necessarily have and right to me, it often

3275
02:36:42,560 --> 02:36:47,360
Speaker 2: abdicates the government of their responsibilities because you're mad at them,

3276
02:36:47,879 --> 02:36:51,280
Speaker 2: and not like you're mad at them because you've given

3277
02:36:51,400 --> 02:36:54,720
Speaker 2: up on your role in changing America.

3278
02:36:55,160 --> 02:36:57,679
Speaker 1: Yes you have all right, last voicemail.

3279
02:36:59,200 --> 02:37:01,360
Speaker 6: I feel that, say when I listen to the song

3280
02:37:01,800 --> 02:37:06,119
Speaker 6: and Kendrick go in. The only people I thought about

3281
02:37:06,400 --> 02:37:10,800
Speaker 6: what talking about it with was Rod and Carris. I said,

3282
02:37:10,879 --> 02:37:14,440
Speaker 6: I need to know what they're saying. I and mind you,

3283
02:37:14,600 --> 02:37:17,040
Speaker 6: I'm back in February. Like as far as my podcast

3284
02:37:17,080 --> 02:37:21,840
Speaker 6: listens to TVD tvdwt'm I'm in back in time, so

3285
02:37:21,920 --> 02:37:23,480
Speaker 6: I'm listening to it back when we didn't give a

3286
02:37:23,480 --> 02:37:25,600
Speaker 6: fuck about Jay level. Now everybody turning on Jay Love

3287
02:37:25,760 --> 02:37:27,800
Speaker 6: like that's where I'm at. So I said, I gotta

3288
02:37:27,879 --> 02:37:30,400
Speaker 6: skip like I got and now I'm on what episode

3289
02:37:30,480 --> 02:37:34,080
Speaker 6: is this twenty three, twenty eight ninety seven where you

3290
02:37:34,240 --> 02:37:37,600
Speaker 6: are You're and Roddy Carron are going into the episode,

3291
02:37:37,640 --> 02:37:39,800
Speaker 6: and I was like, this is exactly what I've needed

3292
02:37:40,200 --> 02:37:43,880
Speaker 6: in my life. Thank you so much for Brendon and

3293
02:37:44,080 --> 02:37:46,920
Speaker 6: for hours and amount of time dissecting this shit, because

3294
02:37:46,959 --> 02:37:50,600
Speaker 6: this shit is crazy, It's it's insane, and it's been

3295
02:37:50,800 --> 02:37:54,760
Speaker 6: so enjoyable, even to the point it's Saturday morning on Saturday,

3296
02:37:54,879 --> 02:37:57,000
Speaker 6: early afternoon, and I'm like, damn, I hope they didn't

3297
02:37:57,040 --> 02:37:58,600
Speaker 6: do the show already. I hope. I'm not bringing up

3298
02:37:58,600 --> 02:38:00,960
Speaker 6: whull shit, but I just want to let y'all know

3299
02:38:01,080 --> 02:38:04,320
Speaker 6: y'all are doing the Lord's worth. Okay, this is the

3300
02:38:04,440 --> 02:38:08,920
Speaker 6: ghetto mess that I really just enjoy being a part

3301
02:38:09,000 --> 02:38:12,200
Speaker 6: of in Black American culture, and y'all, if y'all are

3302
02:38:12,320 --> 02:38:14,520
Speaker 6: not the epitome of Black American culture, I don't know.

3303
02:38:14,520 --> 02:38:14,840
Speaker 3: What it is.

3304
02:38:14,879 --> 02:38:17,560
Speaker 6: The last note I got. I listened to probably the

3305
02:38:17,800 --> 02:38:20,600
Speaker 6: last time that Keith and the girl came onto this show.

3306
02:38:21,160 --> 02:38:23,520
Speaker 6: And when I tell you, I wanted to just be like,

3307
02:38:23,560 --> 02:38:25,320
Speaker 6: all right, y'all, take out eight minutes last, this is

3308
02:38:25,320 --> 02:38:27,000
Speaker 6: about to wrap up. I don't even listen to these

3309
02:38:27,080 --> 02:38:31,680
Speaker 6: last eight minutes, but I was in tears, emotional, like crying,

3310
02:38:32,200 --> 02:38:35,760
Speaker 6: laughing with joy and love in my heart. That was

3311
02:38:35,920 --> 02:38:39,360
Speaker 6: such an amazing like just an amazing show, amazing spirits,

3312
02:38:39,400 --> 02:38:42,200
Speaker 6: amazing relationship to see and listen to both of you,

3313
02:38:42,440 --> 02:38:46,000
Speaker 6: but listen to both shows. Really had that interaction, probably

3314
02:38:46,040 --> 02:38:48,800
Speaker 6: for the last time on TVWG. But with that being said,

3315
02:38:49,160 --> 02:38:52,480
Speaker 6: I love y'all. Have a wonderful week. Y'all keep doing

3316
02:38:52,520 --> 02:38:56,080
Speaker 6: what y'all doing because this is pure entertainment. Okay.

3317
02:38:57,879 --> 02:39:00,400
Speaker 1: And I just realized this person is called during this

3318
02:39:00,600 --> 02:39:04,120
Speaker 1: episode and this is the fourth call. That's because I

3319
02:39:04,200 --> 02:39:06,360
Speaker 1: was like, they didn't introduce themselves. That was weird.

3320
02:39:06,640 --> 02:39:09,880
Speaker 2: SKYT just showed it out of order. I don't know

3321
02:39:09,920 --> 02:39:11,879
Speaker 2: if they all two minutes, we'll see KR.

3322
02:39:11,959 --> 02:39:13,720
Speaker 6: I'm gonna call back a couple of times. Listen, I

3323
02:39:13,800 --> 02:39:15,760
Speaker 6: need to tell you really quick. A real quick story.

3324
02:39:16,320 --> 02:39:21,360
Speaker 6: When everything happened with Drake and Kendrack, I was too

3325
02:39:21,480 --> 02:39:23,120
Speaker 6: cheat to the win. I was like, I don't care.

3326
02:39:23,480 --> 02:39:26,320
Speaker 6: I really don't. I'm not a rap girl. Doesn't really

3327
02:39:26,400 --> 02:39:28,600
Speaker 6: matter to me. You know, niggas beep all the time.

3328
02:39:28,800 --> 02:39:31,760
Speaker 6: I don't. I'm not involved, right, Like I'm being honest.

3329
02:39:32,600 --> 02:39:36,840
Speaker 6: I did not listen to not one word. And then

3330
02:39:37,160 --> 02:39:39,680
Speaker 6: because it was like Rick Ross and then it was

3331
02:39:39,720 --> 02:39:41,720
Speaker 6: all these other niggas, Chris Brown got into it, and

3332
02:39:41,760 --> 02:39:43,080
Speaker 6: I was like, I don't, I don't care, this is

3333
02:39:43,120 --> 02:39:45,040
Speaker 6: this is none of my business, right, I'm I'm in

3334
02:39:45,760 --> 02:39:48,160
Speaker 6: like I'm listening to the podcast I'm working or whatever.

3335
02:39:48,520 --> 02:39:51,840
Speaker 6: And then this ship with Kendrick, like I was on

3336
02:39:52,040 --> 02:39:55,360
Speaker 6: TikTok and like videos kept coming up, people kept breaking down,

3337
02:39:55,480 --> 02:39:57,560
Speaker 6: kept talking about it, and I was like, damn, what

3338
02:39:57,760 --> 02:40:02,000
Speaker 6: was this. No, ain't no way, ain't no like y'all

3339
02:40:02,040 --> 02:40:04,520
Speaker 6: are y'all are bugging out? It is not that serious.

3340
02:40:04,959 --> 02:40:09,560
Speaker 6: But when it was like Kendrick dropped three four songs,

3341
02:40:10,320 --> 02:40:13,600
Speaker 6: I'm like, Okay, I really need to take some time

3342
02:40:13,800 --> 02:40:16,040
Speaker 6: to listen to what the hell is going on? So

3343
02:40:16,240 --> 02:40:19,320
Speaker 6: I never I didn't really listen to like that or anything,

3344
02:40:19,400 --> 02:40:22,360
Speaker 6: like that. So I listened to like that and I

3345
02:40:22,520 --> 02:40:24,840
Speaker 6: was like, Okay, this is like at this, but this

3346
02:40:25,040 --> 02:40:27,480
Speaker 6: this hip hop shit like that, this is fun. It's

3347
02:40:27,520 --> 02:40:30,400
Speaker 6: fun or whatever. And then I started going back to

3348
02:40:30,760 --> 02:40:35,640
Speaker 6: like back and forth between Kendrick and Drake, and I

3349
02:40:35,800 --> 02:40:39,160
Speaker 6: was like, okay, like this this is cool, but this

3350
02:40:39,320 --> 02:40:41,880
Speaker 6: feels personal. I didn't even listen to seven minute drill calls,

3351
02:40:41,920 --> 02:40:44,280
Speaker 6: like no one gets about J Cole like J Call

3352
02:40:44,400 --> 02:40:45,680
Speaker 6: he was in, he was out. I didn't.

3353
02:40:45,840 --> 02:40:47,160
Speaker 7: I literally did not even.

3354
02:40:47,040 --> 02:40:50,760
Speaker 6: Get the chance to listen to his rat before I

3355
02:40:50,879 --> 02:40:53,400
Speaker 6: got involved in the kendreddrito. So I'm gonna hang up

3356
02:40:53,400 --> 02:41:00,160
Speaker 6: and I'm calling y'all right back, all right, body, all right, son.

3357
02:41:00,280 --> 02:41:04,320
Speaker 6: Became one o'clock in the morning, and all my my

3358
02:41:04,440 --> 02:41:06,640
Speaker 6: family was sleeping, men would sleep, everybody was sleeping. And

3359
02:41:06,680 --> 02:41:09,240
Speaker 6: I was like, okay, let me take a couple of

3360
02:41:09,360 --> 02:41:13,920
Speaker 6: minutes to just listen to the songs and literally back

3361
02:41:14,000 --> 02:41:16,360
Speaker 6: to back. I was listening to, you know, pun intended

3362
02:41:16,440 --> 02:41:19,240
Speaker 6: back to back. I was listening to Kendrick's song, and

3363
02:41:19,440 --> 02:41:21,200
Speaker 6: when I heard Meet the Grahams, I said, is this

3364
02:41:21,440 --> 02:41:22,560
Speaker 6: Nigga's he?

3365
02:41:23,600 --> 02:41:24,840
Speaker 1: What is going on?

3366
02:41:25,240 --> 02:41:29,440
Speaker 6: Like I was like, this is assault right, let's gotta big,

3367
02:41:29,560 --> 02:41:31,600
Speaker 6: gotta be able to drink, gotta be able to press

3368
02:41:31,680 --> 02:41:36,200
Speaker 6: charges like this, this is a directed attack. Again, my

3369
02:41:37,600 --> 02:41:42,360
Speaker 6: entire lineage proven and disproven. I don't even I was scared,

3370
02:41:42,800 --> 02:41:45,400
Speaker 6: Like I literally my heart was beating. I was like,

3371
02:41:45,560 --> 02:41:48,760
Speaker 6: oh my god, we are really seeing these niggas fright

3372
02:41:49,520 --> 02:41:53,480
Speaker 6: and then not not like us. But then something else

3373
02:41:53,560 --> 02:41:55,960
Speaker 6: came out all right before that, the other song came out,

3374
02:41:56,800 --> 02:42:00,640
Speaker 6: and I was like, yo, is this the fucking downfall

3375
02:42:01,440 --> 02:42:04,360
Speaker 6: of Drake? Like, oh, we are we witnessing this with

3376
02:42:04,560 --> 02:42:07,480
Speaker 6: my own eyes, Like what the fuck is going on?

3377
02:42:08,400 --> 02:42:11,560
Speaker 6: And just to let you know, listen, I'm thirty three,

3378
02:42:11,720 --> 02:42:14,080
Speaker 6: about to be thirty four in a few months. I

3379
02:42:14,440 --> 02:42:19,280
Speaker 6: was in the Drake camp about circle twenty ten to

3380
02:42:19,440 --> 02:42:22,240
Speaker 6: maybe three four years ago. I was like, you can't

3381
02:42:22,280 --> 02:42:27,440
Speaker 6: tell me about dra Drake is the love of my life, life, games, singing, rapping,

3382
02:42:27,959 --> 02:42:30,880
Speaker 6: like oh my God, speak to my soul. When I was,

3383
02:42:31,040 --> 02:42:33,400
Speaker 6: you know, nineteen going on twenty, I was like this,

3384
02:42:33,600 --> 02:42:37,160
Speaker 6: this man is it. He is him, he is hip hop.

3385
02:42:37,640 --> 02:42:39,000
Speaker 6: That said, all right, kay, already back.

3386
02:42:39,720 --> 02:42:42,880
Speaker 2: I appreciate or admitting colorism, you know, because it really

3387
02:42:43,040 --> 02:42:43,600
Speaker 2: was helping him.

3388
02:42:43,680 --> 02:42:45,280
Speaker 1: This this plains a lot.

3389
02:42:46,440 --> 02:42:51,160
Speaker 6: I thoroughly enjoyed Drake for years, for probably the better

3390
02:42:51,240 --> 02:42:54,280
Speaker 6: part of a decade and a little bit more, these

3391
02:42:54,480 --> 02:42:57,760
Speaker 6: last two albums with the babies on the front, and

3392
02:42:57,840 --> 02:42:59,680
Speaker 6: then there was something else that I can't do it

3393
02:43:00,200 --> 02:43:02,720
Speaker 6: even downloaded. And that's a lot for me, because when

3394
02:43:02,760 --> 02:43:04,480
Speaker 6: he was with the head of the clouds and the

3395
02:43:04,520 --> 02:43:07,400
Speaker 6: blue background that I could play it. I could literally

3396
02:43:07,440 --> 02:43:10,360
Speaker 6: play it through two three times without stopping. But like

3397
02:43:10,480 --> 02:43:14,119
Speaker 6: this more recent Drake, I'm you know now, I'm thirty, now,

3398
02:43:14,120 --> 02:43:16,400
Speaker 6: I got kids now in an experience, why if I

3399
02:43:16,480 --> 02:43:20,680
Speaker 6: experience lost, I've experienced things that you know. I like

3400
02:43:20,840 --> 02:43:24,160
Speaker 6: to listen to albums and songs. I'm not even a

3401
02:43:24,200 --> 02:43:26,400
Speaker 6: person that listen to music, but when I hear it,

3402
02:43:26,720 --> 02:43:29,120
Speaker 6: like I want to really be able to resonate with

3403
02:43:29,200 --> 02:43:31,320
Speaker 6: someone that stuff. I haven't been able to relate to

3404
02:43:31,440 --> 02:43:35,119
Speaker 6: Drake in years, And I'm like, look, you do you book,

3405
02:43:35,160 --> 02:43:38,760
Speaker 6: get your note, even get your bag or whatever. But fine,

3406
02:43:39,080 --> 02:43:41,000
Speaker 6: I ain't got shit. I ain't got it for you,

3407
02:43:41,320 --> 02:43:44,240
Speaker 6: but I'm not stopping your husband. Let me tell you something.

3408
02:43:44,360 --> 02:43:48,040
Speaker 6: Kendrick has made me be considered life. Kendrick has made

3409
02:43:48,080 --> 02:43:51,360
Speaker 6: me be considered how I have, how I have let

3410
02:43:51,600 --> 02:43:54,440
Speaker 6: Rake cook, and even listening to this, listening to y'all,

3411
02:43:54,520 --> 02:43:57,200
Speaker 6: y'all absolutely write everything about Drake and the bitch ass

3412
02:43:57,240 --> 02:43:59,320
Speaker 6: NIGGAO make it sound you're absolutely right, one hundred percent,

3413
02:43:59,400 --> 02:44:03,080
Speaker 6: one hundred percent. He does a lot of bitch as ship.

3414
02:44:03,240 --> 02:44:05,520
Speaker 6: I don't support him, And it's like, not even I

3415
02:44:05,640 --> 02:44:07,720
Speaker 6: don't support him, I didn't go out of my way

3416
02:44:07,800 --> 02:44:09,520
Speaker 6: to not support him, see what I'm saying, Like I

3417
02:44:09,640 --> 02:44:12,000
Speaker 6: really was, just like I'm gonna let him cook. I

3418
02:44:12,040 --> 02:44:14,960
Speaker 6: ain't doing shit to support him, but I'm not. I'm

3419
02:44:15,040 --> 02:44:18,600
Speaker 6: also not doing anything to like deny him his bag.

3420
02:44:19,160 --> 02:44:21,560
Speaker 6: And I feel like Kendrick has gotten people like me

3421
02:44:21,920 --> 02:44:24,240
Speaker 6: onto his kids and say, no, nigga, I'm gonna go

3422
02:44:24,280 --> 02:44:26,400
Speaker 6: out my way to make sure you ain't getting shipped

3423
02:44:26,440 --> 02:44:29,640
Speaker 6: from me. I don't know by anybody else, but I'm

3424
02:44:29,800 --> 02:44:33,800
Speaker 6: not giving you a listener nom or whatever, like for real,

3425
02:44:33,920 --> 02:44:36,080
Speaker 6: for real, So I'm call out that.

3426
02:44:36,120 --> 02:44:38,440
Speaker 1: One talk about all right, we already heard the last one,

3427
02:44:38,680 --> 02:44:42,720
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's hilarious. That's hilarious. She went through all

3428
02:44:42,800 --> 02:44:44,680
Speaker 1: the phases. We got to listen to her.

3429
02:44:45,879 --> 02:44:49,600
Speaker 3: Go through it through real time, real time, she was like,

3430
02:44:49,720 --> 02:44:51,960
Speaker 3: I had to had to stop being in the past

3431
02:44:52,040 --> 02:44:53,840
Speaker 3: in February and catch all the way up.

3432
02:44:55,040 --> 02:45:00,600
Speaker 2: I appreciate that the uh, the Drake, the framing of

3433
02:45:00,680 --> 02:45:03,880
Speaker 2: Drake and people growing up, because I've considered this for

3434
02:45:03,959 --> 02:45:06,760
Speaker 2: a minute, and I've always been a little surprised by

3435
02:45:06,959 --> 02:45:09,920
Speaker 2: the backlash to Drake. And it's all because the people

3436
02:45:10,000 --> 02:45:13,560
Speaker 2: that listen to Drake grew up and he refused to Yes,

3437
02:45:13,959 --> 02:45:16,320
Speaker 2: because I've listened because I'm always like, what the fuck

3438
02:45:16,320 --> 02:45:18,720
Speaker 2: are y'all so mad about all these niggas?

3439
02:45:19,000 --> 02:45:21,520
Speaker 1: Seemingly a lot of these not all, a lot of

3440
02:45:21,560 --> 02:45:22,200
Speaker 1: these dudes are.

3441
02:45:22,240 --> 02:45:26,120
Speaker 2: Very immature, and Drake somehow they write think pieces about

3442
02:45:26,160 --> 02:45:28,920
Speaker 2: his immaturity. I'm like, what, all these dudes are kind

3443
02:45:28,959 --> 02:45:32,560
Speaker 2: of messed up. But it's because for their generation, he's

3444
02:45:32,640 --> 02:45:35,640
Speaker 2: their guy, and they thought, well, he'll grow up as

3445
02:45:35,680 --> 02:45:37,880
Speaker 2: I grow up and know he's going to continue to

3446
02:45:37,920 --> 02:45:42,400
Speaker 2: try to fuck young women and dog women out and

3447
02:45:43,120 --> 02:45:46,800
Speaker 2: hang out with the youngest newest rappers and not tell

3448
02:45:46,840 --> 02:45:50,240
Speaker 2: you anything about his life and not there's nothing really

3449
02:45:50,280 --> 02:45:54,200
Speaker 2: about raising his son and being a fully three dimensional person.

3450
02:45:54,280 --> 02:45:57,640
Speaker 2: He's Drake, which is a character that Rvey Graham plays

3451
02:45:58,400 --> 02:46:02,000
Speaker 2: from Canada, and that's why it never really resonated with me.

3452
02:46:02,200 --> 02:46:03,040
Speaker 1: And I'm not a hater.

3453
02:46:03,280 --> 02:46:06,360
Speaker 2: I listened to plenty of Drake stuff and with it's

3454
02:46:06,480 --> 02:46:08,400
Speaker 2: very surface level, and that's all it's ever going to be,

3455
02:46:08,440 --> 02:46:13,200
Speaker 2: because it's all he's capable of making. All Right, getting

3456
02:46:13,200 --> 02:46:43,200
Speaker 2: too those final stretch guys emails. All right, all right,

3457
02:46:43,320 --> 02:46:47,039
Speaker 2: let's get to these emails. Five mo From Tracy, who says, Hi,

3458
02:46:47,200 --> 02:46:49,560
Speaker 2: Rod and Karen love y'all in the show. I too

3459
02:46:49,600 --> 02:46:50,960
Speaker 2: would like to thank you for the coverage and the

3460
02:46:50,959 --> 02:46:53,720
Speaker 2: breakdowns of this Kendrick versus Drake situation. I rarely chime

3461
02:46:53,800 --> 02:46:56,240
Speaker 2: in with a comment, but Rod, I want the other

3462
02:46:56,400 --> 02:47:00,480
Speaker 2: five five songs so bad it makes no sense right

3463
02:47:00,600 --> 02:47:03,240
Speaker 2: me too. I keep hoping they'll dropping some point, maybe

3464
02:47:03,280 --> 02:47:06,480
Speaker 2: with the album. Also, this might be an UNPC thing

3465
02:47:06,600 --> 02:47:09,720
Speaker 2: to say, but you also touched on folks being so

3466
02:47:09,879 --> 02:47:11,880
Speaker 2: tired and so over it, and I think it's a

3467
02:47:11,920 --> 02:47:15,119
Speaker 2: sign of everyone's short attention spans a quick news cycle.

3468
02:47:15,520 --> 02:47:18,160
Speaker 2: But I remember how pressed we were over the Hove

3469
02:47:18,280 --> 02:47:22,320
Speaker 2: and Nasby Battle songs, as well as Pocking Big. If

3470
02:47:22,360 --> 02:47:25,360
Speaker 2: we had turned around, had a turnaround times like we

3471
02:47:25,480 --> 02:47:26,039
Speaker 2: do now.

3472
02:47:26,320 --> 02:47:27,520
Speaker 1: Then it would have been amazing.

3473
02:47:27,640 --> 02:47:30,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we had to wait like many days between

3474
02:47:30,440 --> 02:47:32,440
Speaker 2: responses and songs, sometimes months.

3475
02:47:32,600 --> 02:47:32,760
Speaker 9: Yep.

3476
02:47:33,240 --> 02:47:36,160
Speaker 2: Also for me, it also showed the thumb thuggery most

3477
02:47:36,200 --> 02:47:38,360
Speaker 2: people practice, because when I grew up, if you chile

3478
02:47:38,360 --> 02:47:40,400
Speaker 2: to someone to a fight, be ready to fight until.

3479
02:47:40,280 --> 02:47:42,279
Speaker 1: Neither of y'all can go any more. Period. Bingo.

3480
02:47:42,800 --> 02:47:44,920
Speaker 2: You don't taunt someone and then be like, oh, on

3481
02:47:45,040 --> 02:47:47,560
Speaker 2: board with this because you are out mashing every way

3482
02:47:47,640 --> 02:47:49,360
Speaker 2: and being made a full of bring.

3483
02:47:49,320 --> 02:47:50,240
Speaker 1: Them bars Aubrey.

3484
02:47:50,600 --> 02:47:53,160
Speaker 2: Since that didn't happen, we know who the victor is.

3485
02:47:53,280 --> 02:47:55,480
Speaker 2: Thank you, guys for everything you put out weekly. You

3486
02:47:55,600 --> 02:47:57,600
Speaker 2: bring so much to my dad's working remotely.

3487
02:47:57,680 --> 02:47:58,320
Speaker 1: Thank you, Tracy.

3488
02:48:00,160 --> 02:48:02,920
Speaker 2: Let's see Julia says, do you watch the RoboCop? Did

3489
02:48:02,959 --> 02:48:06,400
Speaker 2: you watch the RoboCop docuseriies on Prime Video? They dedicated

3490
02:48:06,400 --> 02:48:08,480
Speaker 2: about ten to fifteen minutes to Bitcher's leave.

3491
02:48:08,879 --> 02:48:10,920
Speaker 1: That's it. Love the podcast. You guys are awesome.

3492
02:48:11,400 --> 02:48:14,560
Speaker 2: I have not watched it. I did hear that segment though,

3493
02:48:15,280 --> 02:48:20,640
Speaker 2: from Andy Kline on Three Guys. On he played the

3494
02:48:20,720 --> 02:48:23,640
Speaker 2: audio of the directors talking about how that scene came

3495
02:48:23,720 --> 02:48:27,960
Speaker 2: about and yes, a wild ass story. It seems like

3496
02:48:28,000 --> 02:48:31,440
Speaker 2: an email for three guys on Mama on the beat hoo,

3497
02:48:31,600 --> 02:48:34,760
Speaker 2: Aaron says, hey rd Karen. The TikToker teacher situation reminded

3498
02:48:34,800 --> 02:48:39,480
Speaker 2: me of Dylan mulvaney when Dylan Molvaney met la Verne Cox.

3499
02:48:39,560 --> 02:48:42,280
Speaker 2: Dylan was the transgendered woman who was put on the

3500
02:48:42,320 --> 02:48:44,840
Speaker 2: butt like cans. But before that she was at some

3501
02:48:44,959 --> 02:48:46,920
Speaker 2: event where she was able to meet Laverne Cox, one

3502
02:48:46,959 --> 02:48:49,480
Speaker 2: of her idols. Dylan was so excited to meet Laverne

3503
02:48:49,520 --> 02:48:52,000
Speaker 2: that told her how she basically documented her entire transition

3504
02:48:52,360 --> 02:48:53,560
Speaker 2: and was inspired by Laverne.

3505
02:48:53,640 --> 02:48:55,080
Speaker 1: Laverne was aware and was.

3506
02:48:55,400 --> 02:48:57,840
Speaker 2: Trying to tell Dylan that not everything needs to be

3507
02:48:57,920 --> 02:49:00,880
Speaker 2: recorded and documented, but it was all going over Dylan's head.

3508
02:49:01,040 --> 02:49:05,119
Speaker 2: The young kids just don't get it sometimes. Yeah I remember,

3509
02:49:07,120 --> 02:49:09,840
Speaker 2: I mean I've heard about this, and yeah, I think

3510
02:49:10,040 --> 02:49:15,320
Speaker 2: it's just hard. The kids think transparency is the most

3511
02:49:15,400 --> 02:49:18,760
Speaker 2: valuable kind of content and they just don't understand that

3512
02:49:19,920 --> 02:49:24,720
Speaker 2: the world is not like your support system. So the

3513
02:49:24,800 --> 02:49:28,720
Speaker 2: same people telling you kill yourselves are watching that as

3514
02:49:28,800 --> 02:49:31,680
Speaker 2: long as as well as the same people going you go, girl,

3515
02:49:32,120 --> 02:49:32,480
Speaker 2: go out.

3516
02:49:32,520 --> 02:49:34,920
Speaker 1: Since we support and a lot.

3517
02:49:34,879 --> 02:49:37,600
Speaker 2: Of people's brains are not I'd say almost no people's

3518
02:49:37,640 --> 02:49:39,960
Speaker 2: brains are set up to handle the first one. Like

3519
02:49:40,080 --> 02:49:42,080
Speaker 2: we all can handle the support and love, none of

3520
02:49:42,160 --> 02:49:45,640
Speaker 2: us can handle just motherfucker's ruthlessly coming at you, and

3521
02:49:45,720 --> 02:49:48,560
Speaker 2: you're giving them the material that they're using to do it. Yes,

3522
02:49:50,200 --> 02:49:53,360
Speaker 2: but yeah, they're gonna find their way, probably through trial

3523
02:49:53,400 --> 02:49:54,240
Speaker 2: and error like we did.

3524
02:49:54,480 --> 02:49:56,560
Speaker 1: They just had to do it in front of everyone. Yep.

3525
02:49:57,120 --> 02:49:58,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, which we didn't have to.

3526
02:49:58,720 --> 02:50:00,920
Speaker 2: Ashley says how y'all is, And then y'all talk about

3527
02:50:00,920 --> 02:50:02,640
Speaker 2: the Twitter troll had me thinking about how much I

3528
02:50:02,680 --> 02:50:05,680
Speaker 2: ad myriy'all's relationship. When I first started listening to the SHAW,

3529
02:50:05,680 --> 02:50:08,600
Speaker 2: I remember bristling at Rod, but I'm not quick to judge,

3530
02:50:08,680 --> 02:50:10,280
Speaker 2: so I was like, let me listen some more.

3531
02:50:10,640 --> 02:50:12,360
Speaker 1: It didn't take long at all.

3532
02:50:12,320 --> 02:50:14,800
Speaker 2: For y'all to dispel that, mostly because I saw caring

3533
02:50:14,840 --> 02:50:18,240
Speaker 2: to sert her own agency, regularly, setting boundaries, holding her

3534
02:50:18,280 --> 02:50:21,800
Speaker 2: own in argument, and expressing herself passionately. Then I had

3535
02:50:21,800 --> 02:50:23,360
Speaker 2: to ask myself why I felt that way in the

3536
02:50:23,440 --> 02:50:26,279
Speaker 2: first place, especially since I'm also a very intense person.

3537
02:50:26,120 --> 02:50:29,840
Speaker 1: Who likes to debate and really dig in with people. Yeah.

3538
02:50:29,879 --> 02:50:31,920
Speaker 2: I think also that could be some of that energy

3539
02:50:31,959 --> 02:50:35,000
Speaker 2: because I have that for sure. I like to I

3540
02:50:35,080 --> 02:50:39,360
Speaker 2: don't like to debate like an asshole. You know those

3541
02:50:39,400 --> 02:50:41,840
Speaker 2: people that just like I want to, like, they say

3542
02:50:41,920 --> 02:50:43,920
Speaker 2: something they don't even believe, so y'all can fight. I'm

3543
02:50:43,959 --> 02:50:47,200
Speaker 2: not like that, but I'm definitely like, no, let's go

3544
02:50:47,320 --> 02:50:48,200
Speaker 2: and let's dig into this.

3545
02:50:49,000 --> 02:50:52,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, people like that like that, Like you say, debate

3546
02:50:52,520 --> 02:50:54,800
Speaker 3: for debate sakes and they don't even believe it. People

3547
02:50:54,800 --> 02:50:56,000
Speaker 3: like that made me highly upset.

3548
02:50:56,160 --> 02:50:57,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't do that.

3549
02:50:57,360 --> 02:50:59,920
Speaker 2: And if you're the homie, we should be able to

3550
02:51:00,120 --> 02:51:03,320
Speaker 2: have a conversation where we like not seeing out of

3551
02:51:03,440 --> 02:51:06,520
Speaker 2: our don't understand each other, and then continue to talk

3552
02:51:06,640 --> 02:51:09,880
Speaker 2: until either we do, like have an understanding or have

3553
02:51:09,959 --> 02:51:13,880
Speaker 2: an agreement. I don't even see anything bad about that.

3554
02:51:14,280 --> 02:51:18,039
Speaker 2: It's only bad if you just really think all conflict

3555
02:51:18,520 --> 02:51:22,320
Speaker 2: and all. I mean this case, I almost wouldn't call

3556
02:51:22,320 --> 02:51:24,680
Speaker 2: it conflict, but let's say conflict for lack of a

3557
02:51:24,760 --> 02:51:28,120
Speaker 2: better work. Unless you think all conflict is some sort

3558
02:51:28,120 --> 02:51:31,800
Speaker 2: of like attack than not, it wouldn't matter anyway. We

3559
02:51:31,840 --> 02:51:34,840
Speaker 2: could never be friends. We can never be friends, agree him.

3560
02:51:35,040 --> 02:51:37,720
Speaker 3: And also it's one of those things where Roger knows

3561
02:51:37,760 --> 02:51:39,600
Speaker 3: me and things like that and so Roger would never

3562
02:51:39,720 --> 02:51:41,920
Speaker 3: do anything they make me mad or tick me off.

3563
02:51:42,440 --> 02:51:44,800
Speaker 3: And it's also one of those things to where I

3564
02:51:45,040 --> 02:51:47,520
Speaker 3: know me and Roger has a trust. So when Roger

3565
02:51:47,600 --> 02:51:49,320
Speaker 3: comes at me, I know he's not coming at me

3566
02:51:50,320 --> 02:51:55,400
Speaker 3: from a a mean place or I'm trying to quote

3567
02:51:55,480 --> 02:51:59,200
Speaker 3: unquote get you a catcher place, or I'm saying the

3568
02:51:59,240 --> 02:52:02,480
Speaker 3: opposite of what you're seeing, just because I can, you know,

3569
02:52:02,959 --> 02:52:04,600
Speaker 3: type of thing and not trying fun of those people.

3570
02:52:04,600 --> 02:52:06,640
Speaker 3: I don't respect people like that. I just don't, for

3571
02:52:06,800 --> 02:52:08,520
Speaker 3: you know, if I'm trying to have a serious conversation

3572
02:52:08,600 --> 02:52:10,320
Speaker 3: with you, like a real conversation with you, and you

3573
02:52:10,480 --> 02:52:12,959
Speaker 3: just want to quote unquote while I'm picking the opposite side.

3574
02:52:13,000 --> 02:52:14,480
Speaker 3: After a while, and once I catch on to it,

3575
02:52:14,520 --> 02:52:16,200
Speaker 3: I will start having a conversation. But the fuck we

3576
02:52:16,280 --> 02:52:17,720
Speaker 3: hear it, then i'mna start joking because it's like, oh,

3577
02:52:17,720 --> 02:52:19,480
Speaker 3: if you're not taking this serious, bitch, I ain't either.

3578
02:52:19,680 --> 02:52:22,000
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of shows that do engage in that.

3579
02:52:22,080 --> 02:52:24,240
Speaker 2: There's a lot of men that that thing is to

3580
02:52:24,360 --> 02:52:25,879
Speaker 2: antagonize the woman.

3581
02:52:26,040 --> 02:52:28,600
Speaker 1: Host all the time and shit and whatever.

3582
02:52:28,800 --> 02:52:30,720
Speaker 2: But the other part that I think is a little

3583
02:52:30,760 --> 02:52:32,920
Speaker 2: different from us In most podcast is that we are

3584
02:52:33,120 --> 02:52:40,880
Speaker 2: married and that I still make a uh personal commitment

3585
02:52:41,080 --> 02:52:45,640
Speaker 2: to not fake, Like I don't want to perform too

3586
02:52:45,840 --> 02:52:50,080
Speaker 2: much for y'all in that like I'm and it's it

3587
02:52:50,120 --> 02:52:51,960
Speaker 2: could be even to our detriment, Like we could maybe

3588
02:52:52,000 --> 02:52:53,640
Speaker 2: even be a bigger show. But I don't want to

3589
02:52:53,720 --> 02:52:56,480
Speaker 2: be like pandering. I don't want to pretend to understand

3590
02:52:56,560 --> 02:52:59,000
Speaker 2: things I don't. I don't want to like do that

3591
02:52:59,400 --> 02:53:01,600
Speaker 2: that smooth. Like if you ever go on a double

3592
02:53:01,680 --> 02:53:03,920
Speaker 2: date with a couple and it feels like they're just extra,

3593
02:53:04,560 --> 02:53:07,039
Speaker 2: they're doing, they're doing too much just because you're there.

3594
02:53:07,640 --> 02:53:09,480
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't want you to feel like pressure

3595
02:53:09,560 --> 02:53:11,760
Speaker 1: to do shit you don't normally do yourself.

3596
02:53:11,840 --> 02:53:13,879
Speaker 2: If y'all the kind of couple that don't hold hands,

3597
02:53:14,040 --> 02:53:16,680
Speaker 2: don't hold hands because we holding hands, do you, this

3598
02:53:16,760 --> 02:53:17,800
Speaker 2: ain't got shit to do with us.

3599
02:53:18,440 --> 02:53:19,440
Speaker 1: I feel like that.

3600
02:53:19,720 --> 02:53:22,120
Speaker 2: I don't want to do that energy because that's you know,

3601
02:53:22,360 --> 02:53:25,600
Speaker 2: I'll try to be as authentic as I can with

3602
02:53:25,760 --> 02:53:27,400
Speaker 2: this being a mic and a camera, right, so.

3603
02:53:29,120 --> 02:53:31,560
Speaker 1: You know, conversations that we have are the conversations we

3604
02:53:31,600 --> 02:53:33,279
Speaker 1: would have in general.

3605
02:53:33,400 --> 02:53:35,000
Speaker 2: The tone of them, the way we talk to each

3606
02:53:35,040 --> 02:53:38,360
Speaker 2: other in general, So sometimes I think that could hurt though,

3607
02:53:38,440 --> 02:53:40,760
Speaker 2: because there are people that will take on the role

3608
02:53:40,840 --> 02:53:41,439
Speaker 2: of performing.

3609
02:53:41,879 --> 02:53:42,840
Speaker 1: We know people like this.

3610
02:53:43,280 --> 02:53:46,760
Speaker 2: We've had people like this on our podcast where literally

3611
02:53:46,920 --> 02:53:49,360
Speaker 2: before the fucking mike turned on, they were at each

3612
02:53:49,360 --> 02:53:53,840
Speaker 2: other's next the second we started recording, they were honey, sweetie, lovey, dovey,

3613
02:53:53,920 --> 02:53:56,480
Speaker 2: baby baby, And it was like, to me, it was

3614
02:53:56,600 --> 02:54:00,600
Speaker 2: jarring because I'm like, I just watched all mother fuckers

3615
02:54:00,600 --> 02:54:02,560
Speaker 2: almost kill each other just trying to figure out how to.

3616
02:54:02,560 --> 02:54:05,840
Speaker 1: Get the mic to work. But okay, you know what

3617
02:54:05,920 --> 02:54:06,200
Speaker 1: I mean.

3618
02:54:06,280 --> 02:54:08,040
Speaker 2: And often, you know what the number one question when

3619
02:54:08,040 --> 02:54:10,840
Speaker 2: those couples would be to us, how do you do it?

3620
02:54:11,120 --> 02:54:13,960
Speaker 2: How do you You know though those days when you

3621
02:54:14,200 --> 02:54:16,400
Speaker 2: just like getting on each other, nervous and you still

3622
02:54:16,480 --> 02:54:18,800
Speaker 2: do a show, And I'm like, I don't even know

3623
02:54:18,920 --> 02:54:22,480
Speaker 2: how to tell you this. I just don't experience that problem.

3624
02:54:23,320 --> 02:54:26,840
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean I'm not saying it's just and it's

3625
02:54:26,879 --> 02:54:29,440
Speaker 2: not even a judgment. It's not like I'm doing something different.

3626
02:54:29,560 --> 02:54:33,160
Speaker 2: It's just not our relationship that structure, it's not us

3627
02:54:33,280 --> 02:54:35,920
Speaker 2: having one where it's like, before this mic started, we

3628
02:54:36,000 --> 02:54:39,280
Speaker 2: were like fuck you, fuck you, hey, everybody walking black

3629
02:54:39,400 --> 02:54:41,320
Speaker 2: so I don't even know how to fake that kind

3630
02:54:41,360 --> 02:54:42,600
Speaker 2: of shit, and I'm glad I don't have to.

3631
02:54:42,760 --> 02:54:44,680
Speaker 1: What you hear is basically how we talk to each

3632
02:54:44,680 --> 02:54:45,240
Speaker 1: other period.

3633
02:54:45,440 --> 02:54:51,360
Speaker 3: Yes, And also I think that because of my sweetie

3634
02:54:51,400 --> 02:54:54,160
Speaker 3: baby lovey dovey and because you know, I'm a woman

3635
02:54:54,240 --> 02:54:56,440
Speaker 3: and things like that. And you know, there are times

3636
02:54:56,440 --> 02:54:59,360
Speaker 3: where people invite me on their show steparately from Rod,

3637
02:55:00,120 --> 02:55:03,120
Speaker 3: and this hasn't happened in a long time, but you know,

3638
02:55:03,720 --> 02:55:11,840
Speaker 3: I've been like guests on shows where they underestimate my

3639
02:55:11,959 --> 02:55:12,600
Speaker 3: willingness to fight.

3640
02:55:12,760 --> 02:55:16,400
Speaker 1: Bat you were on Black Astronauts podcast.

3641
02:55:16,480 --> 02:55:18,720
Speaker 2: I don't think those episodes are up anymore, but they

3642
02:55:19,320 --> 02:55:22,600
Speaker 2: I remember this episode where a guy was trolling and

3643
02:55:22,760 --> 02:55:26,480
Speaker 2: kind of coming at you, wanting to fight just to

3644
02:55:26,560 --> 02:55:29,959
Speaker 2: be contrarian, and you lit into his ass.

3645
02:55:30,160 --> 02:55:31,160
Speaker 1: And that's the thing.

3646
02:55:32,400 --> 02:55:35,160
Speaker 2: A lot of motherfuckers don't understand that what they're hearing

3647
02:55:35,240 --> 02:55:38,400
Speaker 2: on this show is a person that understands how Karen

3648
02:55:38,480 --> 02:55:42,000
Speaker 2: works and ticks and talks and what makes her upset

3649
02:55:42,080 --> 02:55:44,920
Speaker 2: and how angry she can get. And I don't do

3650
02:55:45,160 --> 02:55:47,760
Speaker 2: that for content. So I'm not on here being like,

3651
02:55:48,200 --> 02:55:49,840
Speaker 2: let me see how pissed off I can get her,

3652
02:55:49,879 --> 02:55:51,879
Speaker 2: so she can go off. Karen'll go off on other

3653
02:55:51,920 --> 02:55:56,840
Speaker 2: shit anyway, but some of some people need to hear

3654
02:55:56,959 --> 02:55:59,600
Speaker 2: her go off on me or go off on Well,

3655
02:55:59,640 --> 02:56:01,800
Speaker 2: you're not hear it because I don't do shit like that.

3656
02:56:02,520 --> 02:56:06,120
Speaker 2: I would never disrespect my wife in public or private

3657
02:56:06,400 --> 02:56:09,080
Speaker 2: for some fucking like, uh huh, she went off on me.

3658
02:56:09,920 --> 02:56:11,680
Speaker 2: So I mean, if y'all ever hear it'd be the

3659
02:56:11,760 --> 02:56:14,520
Speaker 2: first time we both here together on this show, we

3660
02:56:14,760 --> 02:56:16,800
Speaker 2: don't all be shot. I don't do that shit, And

3661
02:56:16,879 --> 02:56:19,440
Speaker 2: I think it kind of throws people off in a

3662
02:56:19,520 --> 02:56:24,359
Speaker 2: way because they're trying to protect a woman from something

3663
02:56:24,520 --> 02:56:28,000
Speaker 2: that they think, which is very normalized, something that happens

3664
02:56:28,040 --> 02:56:30,280
Speaker 2: to women all the time, even in romantic relationships. They're

3665
02:56:30,280 --> 02:56:32,720
Speaker 2: trying to protect you from that, but they don't understand

3666
02:56:32,760 --> 02:56:38,800
Speaker 2: that they're also they're bristling for a punch that's never coming,

3667
02:56:39,000 --> 02:56:42,200
Speaker 2: a attack that's never gonna happen. So you'll just have

3668
02:56:42,360 --> 02:56:46,240
Speaker 2: to listen to every three thousand episodes and wait for

3669
02:56:46,320 --> 02:56:48,560
Speaker 2: the day that I just fucking pull off the mask

3670
02:56:48,640 --> 02:56:50,960
Speaker 2: and reveal I'm an asshole, but it's not happening.

3671
02:56:51,200 --> 02:56:57,600
Speaker 3: Chad Chat everybody. It'd be like the Spanish gas, I

3672
02:56:57,640 --> 02:56:58,760
Speaker 3: would be shocked in surprise.

3673
02:56:58,920 --> 02:57:02,879
Speaker 2: Well, I've seen you go at people we've had, You've

3674
02:57:02,920 --> 02:57:04,840
Speaker 2: gone at people that have tried to do that shit.

3675
02:57:04,959 --> 02:57:07,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't you know, I know it can happen,

3676
02:57:08,000 --> 02:57:08,840
Speaker 1: they just don't.

3677
02:57:08,879 --> 02:57:11,760
Speaker 3: Right, And a lot of times it's shocking and surprising,

3678
02:57:11,920 --> 02:57:18,600
Speaker 3: and you know, and I understand people that feel like

3679
02:57:19,040 --> 02:57:25,160
Speaker 3: they have to quote unquote defend me, you know, but

3680
02:57:25,280 --> 02:57:27,800
Speaker 3: it's one of those things where I don't need defending,

3681
02:57:28,120 --> 02:57:29,200
Speaker 3: particularly when it comes to you.

3682
02:57:29,520 --> 02:57:30,320
Speaker 1: It's a trust thing.

3683
02:57:30,640 --> 02:57:32,800
Speaker 2: Yes, it's gonna take a while for them to even

3684
02:57:32,959 --> 02:57:36,160
Speaker 2: know if that's because every because this is the other thing.

3685
02:57:36,440 --> 02:57:38,880
Speaker 2: Everything you're saying is also what people that are in

3686
02:57:39,000 --> 02:57:42,280
Speaker 2: relationships where men are fucking terrible to them say, yeah,

3687
02:57:42,560 --> 02:57:44,560
Speaker 2: so we've seen that too, where it's like I don't

3688
02:57:44,640 --> 02:57:46,160
Speaker 2: like the way this person talks to this woman and

3689
02:57:46,280 --> 02:57:49,920
Speaker 2: she's like it's fine, he's he doesn't mean it's all that.

3690
02:57:50,320 --> 02:57:52,360
Speaker 2: And you listen to the show and it's like, shut up,

3691
02:57:52,400 --> 02:57:54,400
Speaker 2: bitch you dumb dumb ass, bitch you bitch.

3692
02:57:54,240 --> 02:57:57,640
Speaker 1: You to bitch you. I'm like, ugh, well, we just joke.

3693
02:57:57,720 --> 02:57:59,360
Speaker 1: We like to argue, that's how we do. And I'm

3694
02:57:59,440 --> 02:58:02,120
Speaker 1: like Okay, so you know it just the.

3695
02:58:02,200 --> 02:58:06,120
Speaker 2: Only thing that the only thing that's gonna assuage people

3696
02:58:06,400 --> 02:58:10,160
Speaker 2: is to listen long enough to feel differently, or it'll

3697
02:58:10,280 --> 02:58:14,039
Speaker 2: never feel differently. The main thing is, I'm not worried

3698
02:58:14,040 --> 02:58:16,440
Speaker 2: about trying to change that for folks me. Either it

3699
02:58:16,560 --> 02:58:19,280
Speaker 2: happens or it doesn't, we just need to keep doing our.

3700
02:58:19,200 --> 02:58:20,480
Speaker 3: Show, and that's what we're gonna do.

3701
02:58:20,760 --> 02:58:22,080
Speaker 1: And I think it's a queer woman.

3702
02:58:22,160 --> 02:58:24,279
Speaker 2: I'm actually very protective with women that head a relationships

3703
02:58:24,320 --> 02:58:26,360
Speaker 2: because they often have to put themselves down or on

3704
02:58:26,440 --> 02:58:27,680
Speaker 2: the back burner to keep their men.

3705
02:58:28,000 --> 02:58:28,840
Speaker 1: But that's not y'all.

3706
02:58:28,879 --> 02:58:31,360
Speaker 2: I've never heard anyone say these things about other podcasts

3707
02:58:31,440 --> 02:58:32,880
Speaker 2: or there's a woman and a man, like what's the

3708
02:58:32,920 --> 02:58:35,440
Speaker 2: Tea or the War Report, because y'all are in the relationship.

3709
02:58:35,480 --> 02:58:38,119
Speaker 2: They're projecting on the y'all, especially putting all the powerlessness

3710
02:58:38,200 --> 02:58:41,480
Speaker 2: or lack of agency that they have felt on the Karen. Yeah,

3711
02:58:41,840 --> 02:58:44,400
Speaker 2: And there's a way that the viewer a relationship that

3712
02:58:44,760 --> 02:58:47,040
Speaker 2: totally makes me the bitch of the relationship.

3713
02:58:46,680 --> 02:58:48,640
Speaker 1: Which some niggas have tried to do when they got

3714
02:58:48,720 --> 02:58:51,800
Speaker 1: mad at me. But surprise, I don't mind. Then I'll

3715
02:58:51,800 --> 02:58:54,000
Speaker 1: beat the bitch fuck you. It's all happy.

3716
02:58:54,280 --> 02:58:56,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's very comfortable and a lot of times they'll

3717
02:58:56,879 --> 02:58:58,760
Speaker 3: they'll come out here with stereotyz and he don't care

3718
02:58:58,800 --> 02:59:01,360
Speaker 3: about like particular when I was working out of the house,

3719
02:59:01,400 --> 02:59:03,360
Speaker 3: he was at home, or he does like a lot

3720
02:59:03,440 --> 02:59:05,440
Speaker 3: of the cooking and the cleaning and things like that,

3721
02:59:05,720 --> 02:59:08,240
Speaker 3: Like they like like that's a quote unquote tag or

3722
02:59:08,360 --> 02:59:10,679
Speaker 3: something against your masculinity.

3723
02:59:11,040 --> 02:59:13,560
Speaker 1: Love don't love nothing but itself. And I need people

3724
02:59:13,640 --> 02:59:14,560
Speaker 1: to understand what I mean.

3725
02:59:14,680 --> 02:59:17,000
Speaker 3: Come out love don't love nothing but itself.

3726
02:59:16,720 --> 02:59:19,720
Speaker 2: Which is essentially like whatever it takes for our relationship

3727
02:59:19,760 --> 02:59:22,160
Speaker 2: to be a working, happy relationship.

3728
02:59:21,840 --> 02:59:22,520
Speaker 3: Is what we do.

3729
02:59:23,680 --> 02:59:27,000
Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, everybody's invited to

3730
02:59:27,120 --> 02:59:30,960
Speaker 2: have an opinion, but I respect, I can't let that

3731
02:59:31,600 --> 02:59:32,000
Speaker 2: rock us.

3732
02:59:32,080 --> 02:59:34,480
Speaker 1: So it's you know, it's like cool.

3733
02:59:34,480 --> 02:59:36,480
Speaker 2: It's the niggas that think is whack that I do

3734
02:59:36,600 --> 02:59:39,560
Speaker 2: all the shit around the house, and uh, you know

3735
02:59:40,200 --> 02:59:43,080
Speaker 2: I that I you know a bunch of shit.

3736
02:59:43,680 --> 02:59:45,039
Speaker 1: The nigga that will cry.

3737
02:59:44,920 --> 02:59:48,440
Speaker 3: The nigga that let his woman quote unquote be too free.

3738
02:59:48,640 --> 02:59:49,879
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, too much.

3739
02:59:50,000 --> 02:59:55,040
Speaker 2: Most of these motherfuckers honestly couldn't handle the way Karen

3740
02:59:55,160 --> 02:59:57,320
Speaker 2: just shows up anyway because they want to put people

3741
02:59:57,320 --> 03:00:00,280
Speaker 2: in boxes the whole time anyway, So they you know,

3742
03:00:00,480 --> 03:00:02,920
Speaker 2: they were so worried about how other people viewed them

3743
03:00:03,000 --> 03:00:03,640
Speaker 2: in their relationship.

3744
03:00:03,680 --> 03:00:06,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, every level of dumb motherfucker right up here and

3745
03:00:06,160 --> 03:00:09,119
Speaker 1: say some shit over the years. Yes, talk about Karen's

3746
03:00:09,120 --> 03:00:09,920
Speaker 1: accent and shit.

3747
03:00:10,120 --> 03:00:11,520
Speaker 3: Yes, we just be corny together.

3748
03:00:11,720 --> 03:00:14,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, fuck y'all, No no offense to you, but you

3749
03:00:14,600 --> 03:00:17,160
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Yeah, as not Karen. I'm talking

3750
03:00:17,160 --> 03:00:21,680
Speaker 2: about the listeners and someone and someone still in these treacherous,

3751
03:00:21,680 --> 03:00:22,279
Speaker 2: deading streets.

3752
03:00:22,440 --> 03:00:22,720
Speaker 1: Lol.

3753
03:00:22,760 --> 03:00:24,760
Speaker 2: I actually really love when y'all talk about love is

3754
03:00:24,840 --> 03:00:27,120
Speaker 2: grounded to get some respective inflection with folks who aren't

3755
03:00:27,120 --> 03:00:29,080
Speaker 2: in the muck. I'm a pretty hopeful person, so it

3756
03:00:29,160 --> 03:00:30,720
Speaker 2: really hells to see that there are people who have

3757
03:00:30,959 --> 03:00:32,640
Speaker 2: a level of trust and respect for each other so

3758
03:00:32,760 --> 03:00:35,160
Speaker 2: deep you can be honest while still being loving.

3759
03:00:35,280 --> 03:00:37,320
Speaker 1: Thanks for being who you are and letting us in

3760
03:00:37,560 --> 03:00:39,920
Speaker 1: for a bit. Thank you, absolutely.

3761
03:00:40,040 --> 03:00:40,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

3762
03:00:40,320 --> 03:00:42,199
Speaker 2: And I you know I haven't been in them streets,

3763
03:00:42,280 --> 03:00:46,400
Speaker 2: so I'm sure that's affecting a shit ton of everything.

3764
03:00:47,000 --> 03:00:47,120
Speaker 10: Uh.

3765
03:00:48,000 --> 03:00:50,560
Speaker 2: Let's see my man proth right saying high Rid and Karen,

3766
03:00:50,680 --> 03:00:54,120
Speaker 2: sorry for the Clickbaity headline which was feedback teaching us

3767
03:00:54,160 --> 03:00:56,760
Speaker 2: as a crisis globally, but I thought I weigh in

3768
03:00:56,840 --> 03:01:00,360
Speaker 2: on teaching that's going in from Australian perspective to light

3769
03:01:00,879 --> 03:01:02,320
Speaker 2: in light of the TikTok teacher story.

3770
03:01:03,800 --> 03:01:06,000
Speaker 1: Here, the teaching shortage has hit us in a big way.

3771
03:01:06,080 --> 03:01:09,720
Speaker 2: Shortages are being felt even if we will establish private schools,

3772
03:01:09,760 --> 03:01:12,680
Speaker 2: and turnover in most schools has caused significant disruption to

3773
03:01:12,720 --> 03:01:15,680
Speaker 2: students learning here. Teachers are paid pretty well compared to

3774
03:01:15,720 --> 03:01:18,040
Speaker 2: our American colleagues. We have less guns, which makes a

3775
03:01:18,120 --> 03:01:20,840
Speaker 2: huge difference to safety and mental health overall, but teachers

3776
03:01:20,879 --> 03:01:23,760
Speaker 2: are still living and leaving in droves due to poor treatment,

3777
03:01:23,840 --> 03:01:26,160
Speaker 2: mountains of paperwork, and a lack of leverage when it

3778
03:01:26,200 --> 03:01:28,960
Speaker 2: comes to the classroom. COVID lockdowns make teachers realize that

3779
03:01:29,040 --> 03:01:30,880
Speaker 2: they don't have to put up with the abuse they

3780
03:01:30,920 --> 03:01:33,440
Speaker 2: suffer from parents, students, and media in the public. When

3781
03:01:33,480 --> 03:01:35,760
Speaker 2: students and the parents have all the power and are

3782
03:01:35,840 --> 03:01:38,520
Speaker 2: treated like customers, teachers are powerless to have authority in

3783
03:01:38,600 --> 03:01:41,840
Speaker 2: the classroom to maintain a stable classroom environment for learning.

3784
03:01:41,920 --> 03:01:44,400
Speaker 2: The shortage also means casual teachers, who are paid more

3785
03:01:44,440 --> 03:01:48,480
Speaker 2: on average, our babysitting subjects they have no expertise or

3786
03:01:48,560 --> 03:01:51,160
Speaker 2: investment in. The upside of teachers is that we have

3787
03:01:51,320 --> 03:01:53,720
Speaker 2: more choice in where we teach and have flexibility and

3788
03:01:53,800 --> 03:01:56,440
Speaker 2: movement to schools due to shortages. The downside is that

3789
03:01:56,560 --> 03:01:58,400
Speaker 2: to fill the gaps, the schools are forced to take

3790
03:01:58,440 --> 03:02:00,400
Speaker 2: anyone with a heartbeat and throw them in a classroom,

3791
03:02:00,400 --> 03:02:04,440
Speaker 2: including our TikTok teacher tiktoks with students, letting female students

3792
03:02:04,520 --> 03:02:07,199
Speaker 2: touch his hair, calling them best friends, and giving students

3793
03:02:07,240 --> 03:02:09,600
Speaker 2: your personal number raises more red flags than a Chinese

3794
03:02:09,680 --> 03:02:12,600
Speaker 2: military parade. It takes a special kind of person that's

3795
03:02:12,600 --> 03:02:15,840
Speaker 2: built for teaching, a combination of passion for learning, a

3796
03:02:15,959 --> 03:02:19,600
Speaker 2: logical and reasonable mindset, compassion and patience for students, with

3797
03:02:19,720 --> 03:02:23,520
Speaker 2: firm boundaries and structure in the classroom, and student interactions.

3798
03:02:23,000 --> 03:02:24,880
Speaker 1: Can only be done by a select few people.

3799
03:02:25,320 --> 03:02:28,400
Speaker 2: Given the desperation we face, the wrong kind of people

3800
03:02:28,480 --> 03:02:31,120
Speaker 2: are joining the profession because it's good money and you

3801
03:02:31,240 --> 03:02:34,760
Speaker 2: get school holidays in the previous school I worked in

3802
03:02:34,959 --> 03:02:37,600
Speaker 2: for Yeah, and I agree because I just was listening

3803
03:02:37,640 --> 03:02:40,880
Speaker 2: to Jail Coven's podcast and he said something about becoming

3804
03:02:40,920 --> 03:02:43,199
Speaker 2: a teacher, and I said, see that's what's wrong with America.

3805
03:02:44,000 --> 03:02:48,440
Speaker 1: Uh. In previous school in polk kids in a previous school,

3806
03:02:49,040 --> 03:02:51,680
Speaker 1: he's just gonna be talking give up on their dreams. Uh.

3807
03:02:51,760 --> 03:02:55,160
Speaker 2: In the prereams one of those kids, you're gonna go

3808
03:02:55,520 --> 03:02:58,560
Speaker 2: be a fucking lawyer and you're gonna like it. And

3809
03:02:58,640 --> 03:03:02,120
Speaker 2: in previous school, I worked in and Disengage for disengaged

3810
03:03:02,160 --> 03:03:05,800
Speaker 2: and at risk teenagers. A colleague who has maybe six

3811
03:03:05,879 --> 03:03:07,800
Speaker 2: months experience as a history teacher wanted to be a

3812
03:03:08,600 --> 03:03:10,720
Speaker 2: be creative and set up an ancient Greek displayed with

3813
03:03:10,800 --> 03:03:13,480
Speaker 2: fake fruits, flowers, and a bottle of wine to add

3814
03:03:13,560 --> 03:03:15,240
Speaker 2: to the learning experience. At the end of the day,

3815
03:03:15,280 --> 03:03:17,760
Speaker 2: another colleague expected the wine bottle closer and asked me

3816
03:03:17,840 --> 03:03:21,520
Speaker 2: to smell it. Sure enough, it wasn't actual wine bottle

3817
03:03:21,640 --> 03:03:24,280
Speaker 2: with actual wine in it, open for anyone to drink.

3818
03:03:24,560 --> 03:03:26,720
Speaker 2: When questioned, the teacher had the I didn't know, I

3819
03:03:26,760 --> 03:03:28,920
Speaker 2: couldn't do that look on her face. She kept her

3820
03:03:29,000 --> 03:03:31,200
Speaker 2: job until she left later that year. This is one

3821
03:03:31,200 --> 03:03:33,040
Speaker 2: of many stories I have to highlight the same point.

3822
03:03:33,440 --> 03:03:35,520
Speaker 2: This is a global issue as many countries are facing

3823
03:03:35,560 --> 03:03:38,640
Speaker 2: the same problem. Parents and society in general should be

3824
03:03:38,800 --> 03:03:41,080
Speaker 2: very concerned at whether this is heading. The di vibe

3825
03:03:41,120 --> 03:03:43,320
Speaker 2: between the haves and have nots will only get bigger

3826
03:03:43,400 --> 03:03:45,480
Speaker 2: unless people wake up and work together to start fixing

3827
03:03:45,520 --> 03:03:45,920
Speaker 2: the problem.

3828
03:03:45,959 --> 03:03:46,320
Speaker 3: I agree.

3829
03:03:46,400 --> 03:03:47,840
Speaker 2: I'm going to be a father sooner, and I'm a

3830
03:03:47,879 --> 03:03:50,320
Speaker 2: fearful of my child's future. I'm urging everyone to get

3831
03:03:50,360 --> 03:03:52,240
Speaker 2: involved at a local level. Have your voice heard.

3832
03:03:52,280 --> 03:03:54,480
Speaker 1: A vote, a school board meetings, the local elections and

3833
03:03:54,600 --> 03:03:57,640
Speaker 1: well as federal elections. Is everyone's is everyone's.

3834
03:03:57,320 --> 03:03:59,720
Speaker 2: Responsibility to act if you want a better future. Thanks

3835
03:04:00,000 --> 03:04:02,640
Speaker 2: everything you do, especially for highlighting the problems of education.

3836
03:04:02,800 --> 03:04:07,520
Speaker 1: Take care of proud. Thank you. Shuley says, Hey, Rob

3837
03:04:07,640 --> 03:04:08,119
Speaker 1: and Karen.

3838
03:04:09,200 --> 03:04:11,960
Speaker 2: Now She does right back later to say, apologies from

3839
03:04:11,959 --> 03:04:14,600
Speaker 2: misspelling your name from now, and I'll be sure to

3840
03:04:14,640 --> 03:04:17,400
Speaker 2: double check before I said. Honestly, shy at this point,

3841
03:04:17,480 --> 03:04:20,039
Speaker 2: people have spelled my name wrong so many times. It's

3842
03:04:20,080 --> 03:04:24,080
Speaker 2: a running joke, and honestly, I'm.

3843
03:04:23,720 --> 03:04:24,600
Speaker 1: Never offended by it.

3844
03:04:24,959 --> 03:04:27,240
Speaker 2: If anyone I'm not one of the name people, I

3845
03:04:28,520 --> 03:04:32,640
Speaker 2: take umbrage to disrespect. I don't take if someone jokingly

3846
03:04:32,720 --> 03:04:35,360
Speaker 2: calling the wrong name or just accidentally callsing the wrong name,

3847
03:04:35,400 --> 03:04:38,199
Speaker 2: it doesn't bother me. I don't know what it would

3848
03:04:38,200 --> 03:04:40,800
Speaker 2: take for y'all to really it would have to be

3849
03:04:40,879 --> 03:04:42,280
Speaker 2: something real fucked up for me to be.

3850
03:04:42,400 --> 03:04:47,160
Speaker 1: Like, God, damn you know, but Rob isn't it. I

3851
03:04:47,320 --> 03:04:49,480
Speaker 1: usually listen y'all would love with my love.

3852
03:04:49,680 --> 03:04:51,720
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I usually it's listening to y'all with my

3853
03:04:51,840 --> 03:04:54,280
Speaker 2: love nerdy to sin say, but I had to rewatch

3854
03:04:54,320 --> 03:04:57,039
Speaker 2: your song breakdowns on YouTube Defeast on the Delicious Kendrick

3855
03:04:57,080 --> 03:05:00,520
Speaker 2: I'll rebeat Beef. I'm grateful that Rob is hip hop

3856
03:05:00,600 --> 03:05:02,480
Speaker 2: head provided giving us the blow by blow.

3857
03:05:02,800 --> 03:05:04,080
Speaker 1: No one else seems to get it right.

3858
03:05:04,160 --> 03:05:06,199
Speaker 2: A lot of articles leaning to the shallow both sides

3859
03:05:06,240 --> 03:05:08,480
Speaker 2: talking points is like they never listen to rich Spirit.

3860
03:05:08,560 --> 03:05:10,200
Speaker 1: They probably haven't. Yeah.

3861
03:05:10,360 --> 03:05:14,840
Speaker 2: Also, a lot of them are the culture vultures that

3862
03:05:15,040 --> 03:05:19,320
Speaker 2: Kendrick is calling out. Yes, and so it's hard to

3863
03:05:20,640 --> 03:05:25,120
Speaker 2: expect certain type of people to that identify more with

3864
03:05:25,320 --> 03:05:32,520
Speaker 2: the drake colonialistic approach to rap to truly have a

3865
03:05:32,840 --> 03:05:38,800
Speaker 2: unbiased understanding of Kendrick's point of view. Appreciate you too

3866
03:05:38,879 --> 03:05:41,520
Speaker 2: for calling out all the bitches catching strays and giving

3867
03:05:41,600 --> 03:05:45,480
Speaker 2: Megan V. Stallion credit for her contribution with hiss. I

3868
03:05:45,640 --> 03:05:48,440
Speaker 2: love to hear you two walk talk about hip hop

3869
03:05:48,440 --> 03:05:52,279
Speaker 2: with your nuanced understanding of gender. Thank you, and hopefully

3870
03:05:52,760 --> 03:05:54,280
Speaker 2: you know I try to do it without him being

3871
03:05:54,320 --> 03:05:56,920
Speaker 2: too preachy, because I do want us to. I just

3872
03:05:57,120 --> 03:06:00,880
Speaker 2: I'm not challenging anybody who brings up like, hey, shit

3873
03:06:00,959 --> 03:06:04,520
Speaker 2: is very misogynistic, homophobic in all the other isms. You're right,

3874
03:06:05,640 --> 03:06:07,720
Speaker 2: So once we have that, we don't even have to fight,

3875
03:06:08,520 --> 03:06:10,520
Speaker 2: because what I don't want to do is just lecture

3876
03:06:10,560 --> 03:06:11,960
Speaker 2: everybody by some shit we all know.

3877
03:06:12,360 --> 03:06:16,960
Speaker 1: We all know anyone that's fighting against that is a

3878
03:06:17,080 --> 03:06:17,520
Speaker 1: dumb ass.

3879
03:06:18,280 --> 03:06:22,120
Speaker 2: Yes, it is misogynistic, and I will always point out

3880
03:06:22,160 --> 03:06:24,520
Speaker 2: when I'm reading the lyrics or talking about it, but

3881
03:06:24,600 --> 03:06:26,760
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna what y'all need to hear how great

3882
03:06:26,760 --> 03:06:28,720
Speaker 2: a guy I am for hour with me being like

3883
03:06:28,959 --> 03:06:31,520
Speaker 2: and I would never call related. No, that's not it,

3884
03:06:31,640 --> 03:06:32,000
Speaker 2: and you know.

3885
03:06:32,080 --> 03:06:32,640
Speaker 1: It's not true.

3886
03:06:33,200 --> 03:06:35,640
Speaker 2: You know, the real truth is this this This is

3887
03:06:35,680 --> 03:06:39,080
Speaker 2: a toxic as part of the culture that is always

3888
03:06:39,160 --> 03:06:42,480
Speaker 2: gonna be such, and there's no call out that's gonna

3889
03:06:42,480 --> 03:06:42,800
Speaker 2: bring it in.

3890
03:06:42,879 --> 03:06:44,920
Speaker 1: I think people are trying to justify enjoying it.

3891
03:06:45,520 --> 03:06:49,120
Speaker 2: Yes, but you know it's the motherfuckers that come to

3892
03:06:49,160 --> 03:06:52,360
Speaker 2: a football game and be like, oh, a concussion. You know,

3893
03:06:53,000 --> 03:06:55,440
Speaker 2: the league has a concussion issue, and I don't support

3894
03:06:55,520 --> 03:06:56,520
Speaker 2: that part of It's.

3895
03:06:56,360 --> 03:06:59,800
Speaker 1: Like, well, nigga, no one came for the goddamn CTE.

3896
03:07:00,600 --> 03:07:03,640
Speaker 1: No you not special, stop hot sighing us.

3897
03:07:05,200 --> 03:07:08,480
Speaker 2: I have an interpretation that mix up of Hailey, Joel Osman,

3898
03:07:08,480 --> 03:07:13,760
Speaker 2: and Joe Oustein euphoria is intentional when chat GPT hallucinates answers,

3899
03:07:13,800 --> 03:07:18,120
Speaker 2: it's not too different from when humans mis remember celebrity names.

3900
03:07:18,320 --> 03:07:20,560
Speaker 2: I think it's a joke about human memory and adapt

3901
03:07:20,720 --> 03:07:24,720
Speaker 2: a generative AI, or maybe about how Aubrey doesn't listen.

3902
03:07:24,879 --> 03:07:27,720
Speaker 2: Don't let the ov hoole box keep you down, Suley,

3903
03:07:27,840 --> 03:07:29,080
Speaker 2: thank you, Shelly, and.

3904
03:07:29,280 --> 03:07:31,959
Speaker 1: You mixed up my name, which is so ironic.

3905
03:07:33,280 --> 03:07:33,560
Speaker 4: It is.

3906
03:07:33,760 --> 03:07:38,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I've heard that interpretation too. I didn't.

3907
03:07:39,280 --> 03:07:41,120
Speaker 1: I still don't know if I fully buy it. I

3908
03:07:41,280 --> 03:07:43,720
Speaker 1: really would love to talk to Kendrick Lamar one day.

3909
03:07:43,640 --> 03:07:48,480
Speaker 2: And be like, Bro, did you really fuck up Joel Hailey,

3910
03:07:48,560 --> 03:07:51,880
Speaker 2: Joe Osman and Joe Oustein Or is that like a

3911
03:07:52,000 --> 03:07:53,320
Speaker 2: super duper lyrical bar.

3912
03:07:53,520 --> 03:07:55,720
Speaker 1: I just want to know, tell me the truth. No

3913
03:07:55,840 --> 03:07:57,520
Speaker 1: one is around, just me and you in this room.

3914
03:07:57,640 --> 03:08:00,040
Speaker 2: Just tell me, because I really do both and this

3915
03:08:00,240 --> 03:08:04,000
Speaker 2: would be great to me either way, Chris Wright said professionalist, AYO,

3916
03:08:04,400 --> 03:08:05,640
Speaker 2: what up Rod and Karen?

3917
03:08:05,720 --> 03:08:06,480
Speaker 1: So, I don't know.

3918
03:08:07,320 --> 03:08:09,920
Speaker 2: I know we don't talk about other podcast issues here,

3919
03:08:10,040 --> 03:08:11,960
Speaker 2: but I did want to take time to thank you

3920
03:08:12,040 --> 03:08:14,000
Speaker 2: for the good work that you do. I remember recently

3921
03:08:14,040 --> 03:08:15,560
Speaker 2: you had that person that tried to press you to

3922
03:08:15,600 --> 03:08:18,360
Speaker 2: talk about talking over Karen or not letting her speak

3923
03:08:18,440 --> 03:08:19,800
Speaker 2: or something silly that you never did.

3924
03:08:20,440 --> 03:08:22,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if you were being serious or not.

3925
03:08:22,440 --> 03:08:24,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if you get a lot of these complaints,

3926
03:08:24,360 --> 03:08:26,080
Speaker 2: and I don't even know if it goes the other way,

3927
03:08:26,200 --> 03:08:28,440
Speaker 2: like maybe some red pill hotels or saying Karen needs

3928
03:08:28,440 --> 03:08:28,960
Speaker 2: to be quiet.

3929
03:08:29,240 --> 03:08:31,400
Speaker 1: I hope not. I ain't trying to speak those losers up,

3930
03:08:31,640 --> 03:08:33,720
Speaker 1: but I wanted to express gratitude for the thoughtful way

3931
03:08:33,760 --> 03:08:38,400
Speaker 1: you both managed to get your points across. Yeah, yeah,

3932
03:08:38,959 --> 03:08:42,039
Speaker 1: yeah to all that basically. And we don't get a lot.

3933
03:08:41,959 --> 03:08:44,880
Speaker 2: Of hotel people calling in and saying shit because they

3934
03:08:44,879 --> 03:08:47,840
Speaker 2: don't listen. But they might leave a comment on you Tube,

3935
03:08:47,879 --> 03:08:50,120
Speaker 2: but I'll be deleting them. Honestly, Karen probably doesn't never

3936
03:08:50,160 --> 03:08:55,080
Speaker 2: see them because fuck them. People Like honestly, you call

3937
03:08:55,240 --> 03:08:57,000
Speaker 2: up here or right up here and take a shot

3938
03:08:57,080 --> 03:08:57,280
Speaker 2: at me.

3939
03:08:57,720 --> 03:09:01,080
Speaker 1: It probably is. It's a higher it'll make the show.

3940
03:09:01,160 --> 03:09:03,320
Speaker 2: Then you take it a shot at Karen, because if

3941
03:09:03,360 --> 03:09:05,320
Speaker 2: I can keep it from seeing it, she'll never even

3942
03:09:05,320 --> 03:09:06,480
Speaker 2: see it and we'll never talk about it.

3943
03:09:06,879 --> 03:09:10,560
Speaker 3: Jab I am over here being blissfully ignorant.

3944
03:09:11,400 --> 03:09:14,160
Speaker 2: As a listener, I really appreciate it. In the long

3945
03:09:14,280 --> 03:09:16,040
Speaker 2: time i've been listening to show, I've never heard that

3946
03:09:16,200 --> 03:09:18,280
Speaker 2: what that person was saying. You both allowed space for

3947
03:09:18,800 --> 03:09:22,000
Speaker 2: the other to complete their spots thoughts, and then what

3948
03:09:22,120 --> 03:09:24,080
Speaker 2: I appreciate most as you return to the topic in

3949
03:09:24,160 --> 03:09:26,320
Speaker 2: hand to finish that threat as well. Even when you

3950
03:09:26,400 --> 03:09:28,960
Speaker 2: appear on other podcasts, you have the same standard professionalism,

3951
03:09:29,080 --> 03:09:30,520
Speaker 2: or at least that's what it seems to me, So

3952
03:09:30,600 --> 03:09:31,040
Speaker 2: thanks for that.

3953
03:09:31,800 --> 03:09:32,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

3954
03:09:32,000 --> 03:09:35,240
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean, honestly, I feel sometimes I'm a little

3955
03:09:35,280 --> 03:09:38,880
Speaker 2: too uptight about us not talking over each other, and

3956
03:09:39,040 --> 03:09:41,560
Speaker 2: maybe it doesn't sound conversational. I'm trying to get better

3957
03:09:41,640 --> 03:09:45,200
Speaker 2: at that and be like, okay, jump rope, I can

3958
03:09:45,280 --> 03:09:47,879
Speaker 2: hop in here, she hops, she hops in on my point.

3959
03:09:47,959 --> 03:09:48,400
Speaker 1: That's cool.

3960
03:09:49,080 --> 03:09:52,280
Speaker 2: And sometimes it's awkward so one steps on the foot,

3961
03:09:52,440 --> 03:09:53,680
Speaker 2: but that's also part of it.

3962
03:09:53,920 --> 03:09:58,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, And also it's a balancing act. Because I know

3963
03:09:58,879 --> 03:10:01,720
Speaker 3: that I talked talk talk talk talk talk talk, and

3964
03:10:01,959 --> 03:10:04,840
Speaker 3: so I try to very conscious of that. And also

3965
03:10:05,000 --> 03:10:08,280
Speaker 3: I want Roger to get his thoughts out completely. So

3966
03:10:08,320 --> 03:10:10,560
Speaker 3: a lot of times while he's talking all john notes Now,

3967
03:10:10,640 --> 03:10:13,400
Speaker 3: sometimes I do interrupt because I'm like, hey, before you

3968
03:10:13,520 --> 03:10:15,160
Speaker 3: move on to some other shit, and I forget my

3969
03:10:15,240 --> 03:10:17,440
Speaker 3: thought because I'm not always writing down, and that's always

3970
03:10:17,760 --> 03:10:19,880
Speaker 3: let me add to this conversation right here, and then

3971
03:10:19,920 --> 03:10:22,040
Speaker 3: you could continue on versus I'll let you finish, and

3972
03:10:22,120 --> 03:10:24,439
Speaker 3: then I'm just coming back with a long guesst rebuttal.

3973
03:10:24,160 --> 03:10:26,840
Speaker 2: And it's always welcome, you know, Like I, like I said,

3974
03:10:26,879 --> 03:10:29,640
Speaker 2: it's I and if I really need to finish my thought,

3975
03:10:29,720 --> 03:10:30,400
Speaker 2: I'll say it.

3976
03:10:30,959 --> 03:10:34,080
Speaker 1: Like I said, I think people taking offense, but I.

3977
03:10:35,840 --> 03:10:38,640
Speaker 2: I guess maybe I'm weird, But like I'd rather someone

3978
03:10:38,800 --> 03:10:40,440
Speaker 2: stop me and be like, no, no, please, let me

3979
03:10:40,480 --> 03:10:43,680
Speaker 2: finish my thought. Then me stumble over their thought and

3980
03:10:43,720 --> 03:10:45,960
Speaker 2: they don't get it out, like I'd rather that, And

3981
03:10:46,080 --> 03:10:47,800
Speaker 2: so I try to be open about that on my

3982
03:10:47,959 --> 03:10:49,680
Speaker 2: end too, I'm like, no, no, no, hold on, I'm

3983
03:10:49,680 --> 03:10:51,920
Speaker 2: gonna say something different than you got you got it,

3984
03:10:52,080 --> 03:10:53,920
Speaker 2: just let me get this out. I don't know, I

3985
03:10:53,959 --> 03:10:57,119
Speaker 2: think we do a good job. I wrote it because

3986
03:10:57,120 --> 03:10:58,840
Speaker 2: I was thinking about it. Liz, I listen to another

3987
03:10:58,920 --> 03:11:01,280
Speaker 2: pot I usually don't listen poet, even though I don't

3988
03:11:01,320 --> 03:11:04,240
Speaker 2: have any enmity with this person and they usually say

3989
03:11:04,280 --> 03:11:06,320
Speaker 2: some really good and interesting things. Sometimes I would listen

3990
03:11:06,320 --> 03:11:08,440
Speaker 2: to them and just be like, all right, man, anyway,

3991
03:11:08,520 --> 03:11:10,160
Speaker 2: this person had one of my faces sent them in

3992
03:11:10,240 --> 03:11:12,320
Speaker 2: love on I wrote it in about how I discovered

3993
03:11:12,360 --> 03:11:15,240
Speaker 2: her work on her her on the work computer a

3994
03:11:15,280 --> 03:11:17,119
Speaker 2: while ago and another guest.

3995
03:11:17,440 --> 03:11:20,240
Speaker 1: I do love some Cinnamon love though she wanted them once.

3996
03:11:21,240 --> 03:11:25,280
Speaker 2: I've been following her work for a while. Well, I

3997
03:11:25,360 --> 03:11:28,160
Speaker 2: mean when you say work, she has like two lanes

3998
03:11:28,200 --> 03:11:31,160
Speaker 2: of work at this point. Now she's a sex worker advocate.

3999
03:11:31,240 --> 03:11:33,520
Speaker 2: She's spoken she's been at the White House like. She's

4000
03:11:33,680 --> 03:11:37,800
Speaker 2: very politically active. I know she I gotta ask her

4001
03:11:37,840 --> 03:11:39,240
Speaker 2: to be on the podcast. I didn't know she was

4002
03:11:39,280 --> 03:11:42,320
Speaker 2: doing shows okay for a while. She usually has some

4003
03:11:42,440 --> 03:11:44,680
Speaker 2: insightful things to say about the industry we're very familiar

4004
03:11:44,680 --> 03:11:46,800
Speaker 2: with but don't really know about. As I was listening,

4005
03:11:46,840 --> 03:11:48,760
Speaker 2: I got more agitated with the host of other guests

4006
03:11:48,760 --> 03:11:50,640
Speaker 2: because every time Cinnamon would be in the middle of

4007
03:11:50,640 --> 03:11:53,360
Speaker 2: her thoughts. They would interject and then change past to

4008
03:11:53,440 --> 03:11:56,279
Speaker 2: the topic just interjected, leaving the previous point stranded.

4009
03:11:56,360 --> 03:11:59,800
Speaker 1: I hate that. That's why our shows me long, and

4010
03:12:00,000 --> 03:12:02,800
Speaker 1: that's why sometimes when Karen's talking, y'allill see me.

4011
03:12:02,879 --> 03:12:05,920
Speaker 2: Like look away from the camera to screen because I'm

4012
03:12:05,959 --> 03:12:09,000
Speaker 2: literally in my brain going, don't interrupt, just let her

4013
03:12:09,040 --> 03:12:12,920
Speaker 2: finish your sentence. Let her like just listen and shut

4014
03:12:12,959 --> 03:12:15,880
Speaker 2: the fuck up. That's my inner monologue at that time,

4015
03:12:16,640 --> 03:12:19,840
Speaker 2: and it's important, though I'd rather look awkward, but it's

4016
03:12:20,040 --> 03:12:23,320
Speaker 2: but it's working then for y'all to hear some jumbled

4017
03:12:23,360 --> 03:12:26,000
Speaker 2: ass like every time she says three sentences here I

4018
03:12:26,080 --> 03:12:28,080
Speaker 2: go with a jag trying to get a joke off

4019
03:12:28,200 --> 03:12:29,040
Speaker 2: or make another point.

4020
03:12:29,080 --> 03:12:29,760
Speaker 1: I hate that ship.

4021
03:12:29,879 --> 03:12:32,480
Speaker 3: It's the worst, yeah, because because then, like you say,

4022
03:12:33,240 --> 03:12:37,920
Speaker 3: it leaves it at least a thought dropped, and then

4023
03:12:38,000 --> 03:12:39,680
Speaker 3: a lot of times because they've nipped it in the

4024
03:12:39,680 --> 03:12:41,600
Speaker 3: but a lot of people don't write, so they never

4025
03:12:41,760 --> 03:12:42,160
Speaker 3: get back.

4026
03:12:42,200 --> 03:12:45,039
Speaker 2: And that she used to do that ship when Neil

4027
03:12:45,080 --> 03:12:48,039
Speaker 2: Brennan had that show, The Champs, which I love the show,

4028
03:12:48,160 --> 03:12:49,800
Speaker 2: but it was a.

4029
03:12:49,879 --> 03:12:52,640
Speaker 1: Big It was a mind fuck for my for my

4030
03:12:52,800 --> 03:12:53,879
Speaker 1: brain because i'm'la.

4031
03:12:53,560 --> 03:12:56,560
Speaker 3: Be like, because they come, y'all finish the goddamn point

4032
03:12:56,680 --> 03:12:59,120
Speaker 3: and they would be something good or deeper. You really

4033
03:12:59,160 --> 03:13:01,320
Speaker 3: want to hear that person insight on it, but if

4034
03:13:01,400 --> 03:13:02,279
Speaker 3: it just stop.

4035
03:13:02,080 --> 03:13:04,720
Speaker 1: And did or they just be trying to get a

4036
03:13:04,840 --> 03:13:07,160
Speaker 1: joke in so hard and it's like, but you don't

4037
03:13:07,240 --> 03:13:09,680
Speaker 1: have to let the man talk is a good show anyway,

4038
03:13:10,879 --> 03:13:12,440
Speaker 1: It really says uh.

4039
03:13:12,560 --> 03:13:14,880
Speaker 2: It really felt like two people who were good friends

4040
03:13:14,920 --> 03:13:17,960
Speaker 2: talking to another person they were only familiar with, and

4041
03:13:18,959 --> 03:13:21,880
Speaker 2: the familiar person was on the outside trying to get

4042
03:13:21,920 --> 03:13:24,840
Speaker 2: into the conversation. Maybe the rapid fire cross talk is

4043
03:13:25,040 --> 03:13:27,240
Speaker 2: what they were going for, and I'm not familiar with

4044
03:13:27,320 --> 03:13:29,680
Speaker 2: the format, but I was annoyed. I stopped listening, said

4045
03:13:29,680 --> 03:13:31,640
Speaker 2: to himself, let me go to an informative and funny

4046
03:13:31,640 --> 03:13:34,120
Speaker 2: space where they have some manners. Anyway, no shape to

4047
03:13:34,160 --> 03:13:36,840
Speaker 2: that person. It really isn't a whole big deal. Everyone

4048
03:13:37,280 --> 03:13:39,400
Speaker 2: involves seem to be fine with everything, and they like it.

4049
03:13:39,560 --> 03:13:40,560
Speaker 1: I guess I love it.

4050
03:13:40,959 --> 03:13:42,840
Speaker 2: Really just sason't even about that pot. I just wanted

4051
03:13:42,879 --> 03:13:45,000
Speaker 2: to give y'all flowers being so good piece. Thank you, Chris,

4052
03:13:45,320 --> 03:13:50,160
Speaker 2: can you lastly, John Wright saying Ken Drake. Good morning, Rod,

4053
03:13:50,280 --> 03:13:52,560
Speaker 2: and Karen just wanted to add that I've been loving

4054
03:13:52,560 --> 03:13:55,080
Speaker 2: to Kendi versus Drake recaps. I don't use Instagram and TikTok,

4055
03:13:55,120 --> 03:13:57,480
Speaker 2: so your clips have allowed me to enjoy some of

4056
03:13:57,520 --> 03:14:00,440
Speaker 2: the fun while also helping explain everything to my brain

4057
03:14:00,560 --> 03:14:02,720
Speaker 2: that has only a tiding familiarity with hip hop.

4058
03:14:03,080 --> 03:14:05,680
Speaker 1: I love that Kendrick is so unabashing as loathing of Crody.

4059
03:14:06,480 --> 03:14:09,160
Speaker 2: When you first started covering the early rounds, all I

4060
03:14:09,160 --> 03:14:11,280
Speaker 2: could think was he hates Drake the way Biden hates Trump,

4061
03:14:11,320 --> 03:14:11,840
Speaker 2: and I love.

4062
03:14:11,760 --> 03:14:12,920
Speaker 1: That I can relate agree.

4063
03:14:13,720 --> 03:14:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing about the Biden thing that I

4064
03:14:16,000 --> 03:14:18,920
Speaker 2: just don't think motherfuckers understand, bro, And it's why he

4065
03:14:19,040 --> 03:14:21,600
Speaker 2: has my vote periods.

4066
03:14:21,840 --> 03:14:25,600
Speaker 1: None of the other people hate Trump the way he does.

4067
03:14:26,040 --> 03:14:29,640
Speaker 3: Yes, he looked like if by law I could do it,

4068
03:14:29,720 --> 03:14:32,160
Speaker 3: I fight your ass in the street, Like, yes, the.

4069
03:14:32,200 --> 03:14:34,800
Speaker 1: Whole thing where they like you need another message besides

4070
03:14:34,840 --> 03:14:37,960
Speaker 1: that for who? For what? For why you just not

4071
03:14:38,120 --> 03:14:41,000
Speaker 1: built like me? He had me in hating this nigga.

4072
03:14:41,120 --> 03:14:42,120
Speaker 1: I hate him as well.

4073
03:14:42,920 --> 03:14:46,000
Speaker 2: And unless a motherfucker some other motherfucker's gonna run instead

4074
03:14:46,040 --> 03:14:47,640
Speaker 2: of Trump, then maybe we have a discussion.

4075
03:14:47,840 --> 03:14:51,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we definitely not built the same. When he's like, uh,

4076
03:14:52,600 --> 03:14:56,200
Speaker 3: I hate you and the horse you rode on. And

4077
03:14:57,120 --> 03:15:00,280
Speaker 3: if you hate him as much as I do, vote

4078
03:15:00,320 --> 03:15:03,320
Speaker 3: for me, yes, bitch, like I said, May. And the

4079
03:15:03,440 --> 03:15:05,920
Speaker 3: thing is, sometimes I feel like America's got them gaslighting

4080
03:15:05,959 --> 03:15:07,600
Speaker 3: me because I was like, bitch, y'all, don't y'alln't remember

4081
03:15:07,600 --> 03:15:08,640
Speaker 3: this motherfucker being in office?

4082
03:15:08,680 --> 03:15:12,080
Speaker 1: Bitch, I do. Never again. He custed that man during

4083
03:15:12,120 --> 03:15:14,920
Speaker 1: the debate. Man, I said, yeah, I knew, I knew,

4084
03:15:14,959 --> 03:15:17,840
Speaker 1: I knew he hated him. It's not just politics for him.

4085
03:15:18,680 --> 03:15:20,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if you ever saw that comedy Daze

4086
03:15:20,560 --> 03:15:22,760
Speaker 2: and Confused, but there's a scene where a nerdy decides

4087
03:15:22,760 --> 03:15:24,680
Speaker 2: to confront of his bully at an outdoor keg party,

4088
03:15:24,720 --> 03:15:27,039
Speaker 2: never a good idea, by pouring beer on.

4089
03:15:27,120 --> 03:15:28,960
Speaker 1: His head and sucker punching him, and then proceeds to

4090
03:15:28,959 --> 03:15:29,440
Speaker 1: get thrashed.

4091
03:15:29,480 --> 03:15:31,920
Speaker 2: As he strumbles away, bloody and whimpering, he tries to

4092
03:15:31,959 --> 03:15:34,280
Speaker 2: assure himself but I got in some good shots right

4093
03:15:34,320 --> 03:15:35,440
Speaker 2: to his consoling friends.

4094
03:15:35,800 --> 03:15:38,160
Speaker 1: That's what Drake's last song reminds me of. It was

4095
03:15:38,240 --> 03:15:41,440
Speaker 1: really a tie when you think about it, Am I right? Lol? Karen,

4096
03:15:41,480 --> 03:15:43,280
Speaker 1: you keep making those bad puns. I love him.

4097
03:15:43,280 --> 03:15:47,480
Speaker 2: Your comedy style is just too sophisticated for some. Cheers John, John,

4098
03:15:47,520 --> 03:15:51,360
Speaker 2: you're part of the problem, all.

4099
03:15:51,320 --> 03:15:53,880
Speaker 1: Right, y'all, that's it. Thanks for listening. We'll be back

4100
03:15:54,760 --> 03:15:55,560
Speaker 1: probably tomorrow.

4101
03:15:55,920 --> 03:15:58,520
Speaker 2: This is a long one, but you know, you know,

4102
03:15:58,640 --> 03:16:00,320
Speaker 2: maybe we'll take a day or two hour so y'all

4103
03:16:00,320 --> 03:16:01,200
Speaker 2: can catch it all up.

4104
03:16:01,280 --> 03:16:02,600
Speaker 1: But until then, I love you.

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03:16:03,400 --> 03:16:03,640
Speaker 7: Wah