1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to Before Breakfast, a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: Good Morning. This is Laura. Welcome to the Before Breakfast podcast. 3 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: Today's tip is to schedule meetings for fifty minutes, not sixty. 4 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: That way, people can get where they're going and more 5 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: meetings can start on time. As I have studied corporate 6 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: schedules over the years, I have been fascinated to see 7 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: how most organizations, or at least most individual people, have 8 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: some sort of default length for their meetings. Some places 9 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: set the default at thirty minutes, but sixty minutes tends 10 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: to be the most common. Because people wind up in 11 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: a lot of meetings, many of these meetings get scheduled 12 00:00:55,280 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: back to back. This is a problem because if you 13 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: are in a meeting that runs from nine to ten 14 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: and another one that runs from ten to eleven, you 15 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: are expected to be in two different meetings at precisely 16 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: ten am. If the meetings are in different places, this 17 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: is a physical impossibility. But even if both meetings are 18 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: by video conference, and even if the first ends precisely 19 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: on time, you will still be a minute late to 20 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: the second because it takes a non zero amount of 21 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: time to log in. You also won't have time to 22 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 1: use the restroom or make any notes about follow ups 23 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: from the first meeting, which means those two dous may 24 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: fade to the back of your mind until they urgently 25 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: boil back up. And of course, many meetings do not 26 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: end on time. That makes people even later for all 27 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: subsequent meetings, so all meetings after the first starting a 28 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: discombobulated way, as you just side whether to wait for 29 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: the latecomers or shift the agenda accordingly. Fortunately, this is 30 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: a comparatively easy problem to solve. Indeed, it is a 31 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: problem that most high schools have solved. You need to 32 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: create a passing period between scheduled events so people can 33 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: get from one commitment to another. If you are in 34 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: a leadership role at your organization, one obvious way to 35 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: do this is to set the norm of having meetings 36 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: start on the hour and end at ten minutes until 37 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: the hour. That is, they are all fifty minutes long 38 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: instead of sixty minutes long. That way, even participants with 39 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: back to back meetings aren't inevitably late for all of 40 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: their meetings of the day except the first. You can 41 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: even encourage staff to adjust their outlook settings to shorten 42 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: the duration of all events so that meetings default to 43 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: a specific amount of time before the hour. A few 44 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: organizations choose a corollary to this idea, that is, all 45 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: meetings start ten minutes after the hour and end on 46 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: the hour. That can also work, but it is slightly 47 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: less intuitive to explain to people outside the organization. So 48 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: I like on the hour and ending ten minutes till now. 49 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: It is true that fifty minutes is less than sixty minutes, 50 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: and if you were accustomed to filling every single one 51 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: of those sixty minutes efficiently in all of your meetings, 52 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: then you may have to rethink things. But in my experience, 53 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: there are very few corporate meetings that were scheduled for 54 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: sixty minutes but that could not take fifty Indeed, since 55 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: many meetings start late because of latecomers from previous as meetings, 56 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: the material may often be taken closer to fifty minutes. Anyway, 57 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: as people get antsy once the clock strikes the hour 58 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: and they know they need to go to the next thing. 59 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: Best to acknowledge this now. If you are not in 60 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,799 Speaker 1: a leadership role, this might be a bit harder to establish, 61 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: but you can certainly make it happen for any meetings 62 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: that are under your control. If you know people are 63 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: going to be late, plan on starting at five minutes 64 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: after the hour and then end ten minutes before. Yep, 65 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,679 Speaker 1: that means turning your sixty minute meetings into forty five 66 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: minute ones. But hey, you listen to this podcast. You 67 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: thrive on doing things effectively. I am betting that you 68 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: could figure it out. Of course, in the grand scheme 69 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: of things, it would be better to just have fewer meetings. Ideally, 70 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: when a meeting happens, it is because something needs to 71 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: change in the world that can only result from bringing 72 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: those people together. The length of the meeting is determined 73 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: by what needs to happen, and not by some arbitrary 74 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: clock time. If you need twenty minutes, you set the 75 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: meeting for twenty minutes. If you need thirty seven point 76 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: five minutes, you ask for that, and everyone is going 77 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: to assume your agenda is incredibly well thought through. But 78 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: if that is not going to happen, the next best 79 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: solution is to shorten all meetings just a little. People 80 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: won't be late, they can catch their breath, they can 81 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:49,559 Speaker 1: think about what just happened, and then they can start 82 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: the next thing. This is a fairly simple fix that 83 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: can have a big impact in terms of increasing focus 84 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: and avoiding a sense of being overwhelmed. In the meantime. 85 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: This is Laura. Thanks for listening, and here's to making 86 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: the most of our time. Hey, everybody, I'd love to 87 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: hear from you. 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