1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 1: Mm from grandmothers who whispered in their baby girl in 2 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: two fathers on dimly lit street corners, instructing young soldiers 3 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: to always keep their eyes open. You be queen, you 4 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: were fired. You will pass through centuries on the hands 5 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: of your daughters. They called you wisdom. Proverbs on the 6 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: backs of diamond eyed school children who growing into hymnals 7 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: recited by amethyst holding urban philosophers who recited neighborhood commandments 8 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: out of the windows of restored Alchemedo chariots to keep 9 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: the warmth of their blood, be wise, be smart, being black, 10 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: Opal Brown courts bloodstone and prayer. Be every form of 11 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: jim se King told, scribe, scribe, told son, son, told wife, 12 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: wife told her daughter, and daughter told the ant. This 13 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: is at the ancestors told me that you would come 14 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: to give wisdom. Thousands. They said you would come. Hey, 15 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: welcome back to another episode of the Dropping Gym's podcast. 16 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Debbie Brown. We are on episode fourteen. 17 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I say that every time, right, but 18 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: it's still kind of blows me away, because keep in 19 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: mind when I launched, it took me four years um 20 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: to finally commit to doing this podcast. After I initially 21 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: bought the equipment, had the vision, even had the name, 22 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: and I just sat on it. And so now that 23 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: I am like in the throes of it, and I'm 24 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: reading all of the beautiful reviews that you guys take 25 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: your very very personal, valuable time to write me and 26 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: rate and all that. Um, yeah, I'm kind of like, hey, 27 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: fourteen episodes, let's go. I'm right, So today's show. Um, 28 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: one of my girlfriends, one of my dearest friends from 29 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: my time in Houston. She and I bill this beautiful 30 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: bond in Houston, and we were both kind of beginning 31 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: to build businesses at the same time and kind of 32 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: getting out of previous career trajectories at the same time. 33 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: And she was in town here I'm based in l 34 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: A for the weekend for this big summit that's happening. 35 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: And so initially the plan was she landed at the 36 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: crack of dawn and I was like, girl, just get 37 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: in the ober, comes straight to my house. I'll have 38 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: some coffee for you, we'll have breakfast. Quest will be chilling. Um. 39 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: And then we sat down and you know, we're we're 40 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: sipping our coffee, eating our eggs, and we start talking 41 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,839 Speaker 1: and I'm like, what are we doing? This conversation needs microphones, 42 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: stat So that is what we are doing. And I'm 43 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: so excited to share her with you because she is 44 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: just such a dynamic, multitalented, multidimensional true boss. So my 45 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: special guest today is my dear friend Denise Hamilton's who 46 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: is the CEO of Watch, her work which is a 47 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: learning platform for women to access tangible tools for career building. 48 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: So right now on the website, she has over seven 49 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: thousand videos of content of interviews with women who are 50 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: excelling in a multitude of fields, being everything from engineering 51 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: to entertainment to tech to education. So many different perspectives 52 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: and different success stories of women of all shape, sizes, colors, ages. 53 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: Content is available online and offline. She does some amazing 54 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: workshopping events, does a lot of corporate consulting, and just 55 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: this calendar year alone, and we are in right now November, 56 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: the beginning of November, so not even a full calendar year. 57 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: She has spoken in front of over a hundred and 58 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: twenty five thousand people. Yeah, and I'm not just talking 59 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: about on the Graham. I'm not saying she has that 60 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: many followers. And so she's just tweeting and oh that's 61 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: my audience, like no physical bodies filling seats. So without 62 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: further do, welcome to my dearest one, Denise Hamilton's hey girl, 63 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: Hey girl, I'm so happy you're here. I'm over the 64 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: moon to be here. You are one of my favorite 65 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: people to converse with in real life. Um you always 66 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: have just such incredible perspective and jes your your depth 67 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: of knowledge on so many subjects. It is so rare 68 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: that I'm always like, oh, so let me say this 69 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: to Let's take a second. Everybody, stop what you're doing 70 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: and get a pen. I promise you get a pen, 71 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: get a pad of paper nearby, because there's gonna be 72 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: a lot of quotables. So we'll take a second. One, two, 73 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: got it all right? So you know, Denise, there's so 74 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: many There's truly so many directions I could take this conversation, 75 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: but I would really like to start off with you 76 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: by you sharing with me and the audience. What is 77 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: watch her work? My favorite topic? So um I started 78 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: watch your work to solve the problem. Um I had 79 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: been an executive for over twenty five years, the only 80 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: African American, the only woman, and so many different situations, 81 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: and I became kind of a lightning rod from men tees. 82 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: Everybody wanted to pick your brain? Can I take you 83 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: to lunch? And I could add coffee eleven times a day? Right, 84 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: because people have a need, right, there's a hunger for information. 85 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: They want to know how to do things the right way. 86 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: What what They don't want to zig when instead of 87 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: zagging right, Like, they don't want to step in the 88 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: same puddles I've already stepped in, And um, it was 89 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: it was hard. Um, it was really hard. And I 90 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: started talking with my peers and they were having the 91 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: same problem. They didn't see their own kids and they 92 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: just didn't have time. I was like, how do we 93 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: get to be in charge of equality? We're struggling ourselves. 94 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: So it occurred to me, Let's film this. Let's scale this. 95 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: People are asking essentially the same questions. Let's film the 96 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: content and organize it in such a way that they 97 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: could access it when they need. What are some of 98 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: the biggest questions I guess women are having in the 99 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: workspace right now? Um, how do I get hurt in 100 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: a meeting? How do I deal with um unequal power 101 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: on a team? Um, how do I tell my boss 102 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: I'm pregnant. How do I ask for a raise? How 103 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: do I handle if they tell me no? Because we 104 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: don't talk about that a lot. What do you do? 105 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: I know what to do with my boss hits on me? 106 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: What do I do if a client hits on me? Yeah? 107 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: God and so. And what I really love about your 108 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: platform specifically is the women who are offering a lot 109 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: of this wisdom are from all walks of life. So 110 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: these are veterans, right, or they are mid level or 111 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: new right navigating more of a millennial work landscape. But 112 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: it's women of all shapes, sizes, colors, and professions. Like 113 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: you could be getting advice from an engineer, from someone 114 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: in entertainment from someone you know it, maybe in veterinary medicine, 115 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: all kinds of things, all of the things. And I think, 116 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: what I think is so incredible about that and so 117 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: important is we So you get a lot of good 118 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: information on Instagram, right, But we have to stop letting 119 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: random Instagram memes and quotes be the guiding post for 120 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: our lives because most of the people that write these 121 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: things do not have real experience in the things that 122 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: they're sharing, but they know that these things are popular, 123 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: so a lot of the advice is not good for you, 124 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to work. There is a lot 125 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: of toxic advice that will keep you from being able 126 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: to make good money and grow the way that you 127 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: need to, especially because a lot of the people offering 128 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: some of this stuff are not people that have real 129 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: work life experience. They either are just great at motivating 130 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: people naturally um or they just have freelancer online experience, 131 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: but their understanding of truly excelling in the workspace is 132 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: not there. Why because people that are really excelling in 133 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: these workspaces do not have the time to create content 134 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: for you online that is real and useful. Absolutely. I 135 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: mean that's why we turned on the camera, right, because, um, 136 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: you have theoretically what you think would work in that situation. 137 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: I want to talk to people who actually have executed, 138 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: who did this strategy and succeeded, or who did this 139 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: strategy and failed, and maybe tell you, hey, hey, don't 140 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: do this, don't step in that landline. Right. We want 141 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 1: to glean experience from people that are experienced, and there's 142 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: so much information. Everybody is a coach these days. Oh man, 143 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: this is like a little bit I've been trying to 144 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: find the way that I want to word this right 145 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: because I want to honor everybody's path and I don't 146 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: like currently in my life right now, I don't exist 147 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: in a space of having a lot of judgment or 148 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: harsh criticisms for people. I don't like talking about people 149 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: at all, like at all, I don't like discussing people. 150 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: But there is a space right now where because the 151 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: landscape is so open up, opened up, which is phenomenal, right, 152 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: Like there's so many different ways each of us can 153 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: make money nowadays that have never existed before, Like thousands 154 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: of careers that never existed before have popped up in 155 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Um. But in that same space, 156 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: there is a lot of people who have amassed social 157 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: media followings that are giving advice that they don't really 158 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: know works right, Like they're saying the right motivating things 159 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: like you gotta you gotta walk in and know you're 160 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: worth girl, or you gotta you gotta ask for what 161 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: you're worth, You've gotta demand what you're worth. And the 162 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: cold heart truth is right because all of these are 163 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: are generalizations. Cold heart truth is you also have to 164 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: factor in the temperament and the personality type of the 165 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: people that you work with and the people that you're 166 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: talking to, what their level of skill is and influences 167 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: how they got to where they got right, what the 168 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: structure the corporate culture is. But also if we could 169 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: be honest and real right now, the majority of the 170 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: people taking these Instagram memes and walking in these rooms 171 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: with this as their motivator have not earned that seat. Right. 172 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: So you're just saying I'm unhappy. I'm not feeling enough 173 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: fulfilled here. Oh ship, I need more money because I 174 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: got bills. Let people say what I'm worth and you 175 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: don't even know if that's what you're worth. It's really toxic. Yeah, 176 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: it's a crisis. And I don't use that word lightly. 177 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: When I speak at event and maybe there's two thousand women, 178 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: I'll have a hundred young women waiting to talk to 179 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: me after I speak because they're lost. Um hashtagg you 180 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: go girl, right, I love it. It's it's all the 181 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: positive encouragement is great, but what we don't have is 182 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: the layers down. We need more depth. We're super wide 183 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: right now, but we need more up. And that's really 184 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: why I tried to gather people from all walks of life, 185 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 1: all expertise, all backgrounds, because you need to hear somebody 186 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: who's really like you, but you also need to hear 187 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,479 Speaker 1: somebody that's totally different from me. Give you a perspective 188 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: of how to approach a problem, because you know something 189 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: that you said off Mike that we were talking about earlier, 190 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: was there. There's also so many variables that are factored 191 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: into everything, you know, especially based on how you look. 192 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: You treated different, right, like are you a very attractive person? 193 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: You're gonna be treated different at work? Are you an extrovert? 194 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: Are you an introverting you? Fin? Are you? Are you petite? 195 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: How hard is it to be heard in a meeting 196 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: when you're five feet tall? That's a person. They have 197 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: a whole different set of experiences than you and I have. Yeah, 198 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: as we are. So how could you possibly get all 199 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: of your advice from Chryl Samberg? Yeah, you know, like 200 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: there's so many of yeas so when also and it's 201 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: like much love to Ryl Samberg because she is bomb 202 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: in many ways, but it's like, well, but how useful 203 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: is that for my black ass? You know what I mean? 204 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: Because it's also it's different, right, like what she is 205 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: saying is amazing, but it's also you are a middle 206 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: aged white woman who lives in Silicon Valley, and if 207 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm working at maybe perhaps like like a minority owned 208 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: startup in Oregon or like, it's just different. It's just different, 209 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: and we do have to wait in We don't need 210 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: to silence her voice. Yeah, no, not at all. There's 211 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: a whole spectrum of experiences and I want to hear 212 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: from everybody of how they've handled different things and different challenges. 213 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: And um, we don't really have a place for that. 214 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: Um we are you know, there's definitely this concept of 215 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: wanting milk instead of meat, and what I try to 216 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: give people is meat. Um. We we've moved past the 217 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: basic level. Let's talk about the real things you need 218 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: to do to really succeed. Yeah, because you know what, 219 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: like motivation without self awareness is useless, dangerous, it's dangerous. 220 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: You're gonna play yourself over and over again. One of 221 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: the most powerful things people respond to when I say 222 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: in my presentations is we have to stay coachable. Right. 223 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: We have gotten so empowered that we're not coachable anymore. 224 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: Nobody could tell you anything, right, and so um at 225 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: a friend who worked at a university and he got 226 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: an administrative position very young. It's he's a black guy. 227 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: It's him and seventy white guys. Amazing. He's twenty eight 228 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: years old, really outstanding. He was insecure about his youth, 229 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: so he decided he was going to grow a beard. Right, 230 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: the beard was busted, scraggy. It was terrible. It was 231 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 1: just awful. And an African American employee at the at 232 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: the college took him to the side and said, bro, 233 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: it's not working. So my friend is telling me this story. 234 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: And I said, could a white guy have told you that? 235 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: M would you have received that If a white guy 236 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: had pulled you to the side and told you that, 237 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 1: and he said no, I probably would have been offended. 238 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: I would ascribed a whole bunch of other stuff to it. 239 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: And y'all, that's dangerous. If people who are in positions 240 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: of power can't share that power with us, can't help 241 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: us if we're off track, can't give us feedback to 242 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: help us grow. You're not going to be promoted. You're 243 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: gonna work and work and move from job to job, 244 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: but never excel. And you won't even know why because 245 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: no one feels empowered to tell you the truth. Can 246 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: I tell you that when you get upset, you crack 247 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: your neck? Can I tell you that you're too loud? 248 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: Can I tell you that, um, you're getting a reputation 249 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: in office for a spreading gossip? Can I Can I 250 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: really tell you the things that are stopping you. You 251 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: can fix all of those things. All of those things 252 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: are fixable. They're not fixable if you don't know. So, 253 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: if you're not, if you're not open, nobody's gonna tell you. 254 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: Because I hate to break it to you, nobody's ending 255 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: up in hr for you. I'm not. I'm not gonna 256 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: do it. Nobody's gonna risk their position, their authority. They're 257 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: not gonna be in mess for you. So if I think, hey, Debbie, 258 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: I see a lot of potential in her. I think 259 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: she can really go far. She's really got to work 260 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: on these three things. But if I tell you those 261 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: three things, I think that's gonna blow back on me. 262 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: I'm never gonna tell you those two things. So literally, 263 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: I tell people in my UM seminars and in my sessions, 264 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: if you have a sponsor, a mentor, and employer, a boss, 265 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: somebody who has been sowing into you, and you have 266 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: a good relationship with called them to day and say 267 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: it has occurred to me that maybe I have not 268 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: presented myself to you as being fully open to hearing 269 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: any feedback that you have, and I want to let 270 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: you know right now that this is a safe space. 271 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: I want to hear everything that you have to say. 272 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: If it's gonna make me better, I want to receive it. 273 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: Whenever I tell him that, the next day I'll get 274 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: seventy emails because they're like, oh my god, it worked. 275 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: He gave me so much information. She told me some 276 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: stuff I had never heard before, and now I feel 277 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: like I can fix it. Right. We have to be 278 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: open to growth, and we can't break down along racial lines, 279 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: sexual lines. We've we've got to be open to hear 280 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: even if it doesn't sound good. And I got to 281 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: tell you it's hard in the hashtag you go girl 282 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: era to hear stuff that doesn't sound good because I 283 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: think to the way that things are spun and it's 284 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: everything is put under this empowerment bubble. But a lot 285 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: of people that are preaching this empowerment talk or listening 286 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: to it are not also doing the self work necessary 287 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: to embody what true authentic self empowerment is you know, 288 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: like being empowered is just it's not going in an 289 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: office and being a brat, you know, like it's not 290 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: going in the office and demanding your way. It's knowing 291 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: exactly who you are for real, being open to feedback, um, 292 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: and just really having having some tact and having more 293 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: of a sense of yourself and and not taking things personally. 294 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: I see too many people taking everything so personally in 295 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: the workspace, or they expect for their work to bring 296 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: them all the joy that they're supposed to have in life. Yeah, 297 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: you're supposed to have a life. Work is part of 298 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: your Yeah, well, because so many people too. It's like 299 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: when you don't know who you are, because that's also 300 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: a process, especially to heading on what age you are. 301 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: You know, we none of us come to this earth 302 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: with it all together. Um. As you're starting to navigate 303 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: who you are, what you stand for, what your identity is, 304 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: the easiest way to do that is to attach it 305 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: to your titles, to attach it to what you do 306 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: for a living. So then you're teaching yourself that your 307 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: only value exists within that box. So then when things 308 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: aren't going your way within that box, you were having crisis, 309 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: like you were really suffering inside, or you're taking things 310 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: really personal, or your confidence is getting completely shattered. And 311 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: I'll add to that, Entrepreneurship is great. I'm an entrepreneur, 312 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: you're an entrepreneur. Entrepreneurship is awesome, but it's not for everyone, 313 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: and we shame people because they're just you're oh, you're 314 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: just in a corporate job. My god, if everybody leaves corporate, 315 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: we won't have any black CEOs, we won't have any 316 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: female CFOs, we won't like somebody's got to stay in corporate. 317 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: We need people in every sector. But we are shaming 318 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 1: people because they don't have side hustle, because they don't 319 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: have a podcast, because they didn't write. I mean, yeah, 320 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: I talk. I literally what you just said. I talk 321 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: about all the time, like on this show, and when 322 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: I do speaking, it's like, it sickens me how much 323 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: comparative shaming is happening, and how there is this false 324 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: narrative now that if if, if your life isn't done 325 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: in a really grandiose way or in a way that 326 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: elicits other people's jealousy or comparison on social media, then 327 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: you don't matter or you're not doing anything important and 328 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: that is bull shit. That is ridiculous. Um. I mean 329 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: I think that we just have a skewed sense of 330 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: what success. Yeah right, what does success look like? And 331 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: through my work, what I've tried to do is give 332 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: people to help them be grounded and give them a 333 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: sense of like you're starting here and where you're starting 334 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: is Okay. If I a rose bush and the first 335 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: leaves pop up, I don't yell at it because it's 336 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: not doesn't have roses on you. Yeah, it's not a 337 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: long steam bouquet. Ye. Yeah. And when it grows further 338 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: and it's just a bud um, I don't yell at 339 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: it because it bloom hasn't bloomed yet. Like we have 340 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: to let people be at the season that they are 341 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: right and honor those seasons. And everybody wants to be cooked. 342 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: And because the tools are so so cheap, now everybody 343 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: can get a logo and get a website and get 344 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: this because it's everybody can buy a course about something. 345 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: It's like we have a whole it feels like a 346 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: whole generation of people that are not cooked. Yeah, they're 347 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: not fully they're not fully cooked. Yeah, or the or 348 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: their microwave cooks, so the quality of food is lower. Yeah, 349 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: it's it's not the same as an oven cook So 350 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 1: how do you cultivate that that depth and get real? Right? 351 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: And for me, the journey I've been on is unlearning 352 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: is unlearning? So how much take? How do you? Um? 353 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: But one of my favorite movies is Jurassic Park, And 354 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: that is not what I expected you to say. That 355 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: is very random. So really the first one, the first one, um, 356 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: And there's a there's a line where he says, you know, 357 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: the velociraptors are testing defenses and they remember they're testing 358 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: for weaknesses. Um. And in a way, that's what we 359 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: all need to be doing. We need to be testing 360 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: all of these beliefs, all of these assumptions, all of 361 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: these things that we think are truisms, are they true? Right? Right? 362 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: I would love to sit here for a second, um 363 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: and share some of my process, right because I think 364 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: something you just said is something I think often. Um. 365 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: This desire to not be seen at as at a 366 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 1: starting point is really going to hinder the lives of 367 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: so many young women, you know, and I get it. 368 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: The risks are higher and the wrapping has changed, Like 369 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: we're sharing ourselves in a way that we never have 370 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: before on social in real time, you know. And so 371 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: with that comes this sense that you don't ever want 372 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,959 Speaker 1: anyone to think that you're anything less than amazing and 373 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: great and pop in. Right, But like when you dig 374 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: inside deep in yourself, there is this not just peace, 375 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: but there is just this sturdiness, this knowing nous, right, Like, 376 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: I know I'm great, I'm amazing, but I don't have 377 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: to tell everybody that, right because me knowing it is 378 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: more than enough. And also I'm not moved by anyone's 379 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: praise or criticism. Actually don't like when I'm places and 380 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: people try to lesson themselves when they're with me, or 381 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: when they try to pander to me too much about 382 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: oh you're this and you're that amazing. If you do 383 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: feel connected to me of anything you've ever heard me 384 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: say or do, I recognize it, and I am grateful 385 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: and I'm grateful for you sharing it with me. But 386 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 1: also the only reason you think I'm so great is 387 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: because you see some of yourself in me, which means 388 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: you're great, which means that if you tap into that, 389 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: you are everything already that you think I am. You know, 390 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: so I I try to live in exist in a 391 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: space where I am not moved by the criticism or 392 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: by the praise. I am only moved by the dial 393 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: of my own soul and my own spirit and the 394 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 1: areas in which I know I'm being called to stretch, 395 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: or the areas I'm being called to share or to 396 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: be even more still you know. Um. But I think 397 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: that that comparative place with social media, just with the 398 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: amount of content and information that is going on, also 399 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: with the amoun of new jobs there are. In the 400 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: comparison there, it's really really difficult for most people to 401 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: be in the present and to value, love and celebrate 402 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: themselves for the position you're in. When I started in Turning, 403 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: I was so proud to tell people I was an intern. 404 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: I would say it from the top of my lung. Yeah, 405 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: in turn at the radio station. To me, that was popping. 406 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: If you meet a radio intern now, the first thing 407 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: they're going to try to do is take away that label. 408 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: And because they don't want people to judge where they're 409 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 1: at or not think they're super important overnight, which doesn't 410 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: happen for anyone. I worked in media for over ten years, 411 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: close to fifteen years that's why I have the access 412 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: that I have, That's why I have the relationships I have. 413 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: So if you're in year one or two and you're 414 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: comparing yourself to that, that would be an insane amount 415 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: of suffering. You're causing yourself for no reason. You'll get 416 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: there if you're supposed to be. We're at different places, 417 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: you know. But so I think that that really, that 418 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: part is really tough for people. And it's like that's 419 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: also what keeps their pride levels so high that they 420 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: can't actually grow and what they're doing or in their career. 421 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: Absolutely and use the right word suffering. Um, and I 422 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: see it. I see it firsthand. They won't start. Think 423 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: of that. Think if we have of young women who 424 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: won't start. They have a dream, they have a fire, 425 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: they have a zeal for something, but they're afraid to 426 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: start because if it can't start at a then I'm 427 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: not going to start. I can't put the CEO in 428 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: my bio the second I think of the idea for 429 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: the business, then no. And it's so toxic because it 430 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: cost us because if if you know, like I understand, 431 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: if I want to play the piano, I've got to start, 432 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: and I've got to practice, and I'm gonna get better 433 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: and better and better, and it's gonna take practice every day. 434 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: And I'm I'm not going to be a concert pianist overnight. Right, 435 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: every thing is like that. We understand, but everything is 436 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: like that. But we've created this space where people feel 437 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: just perpetually inadequate. And I know if it's sustainable we 438 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 1: go from here. It's not. But yeah, and and and 439 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: I think that kind of ties into two. Like when 440 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: we were talking about this nine to five shaming that happens, like, 441 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: let's be clear, if the entire world were made up 442 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: of entrepreneurs, this society is not sustainable, especially like think 443 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: about right now, Like if you have your business and 444 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: you need to scale your business, you need to be 445 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: able to hire employees. But according to your theory, if 446 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: someone has a nine to five and is an entrepreneur 447 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: and their own boss, then their life sucks. So who's 448 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: going to be your employees? You know, it's just But 449 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: also outside of that, it's like when you when you're 450 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: growing as yourself and you understand that you are valuable 451 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: merely because you exist and that's enough, then you won't 452 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: feel the need to try to elevate yourself above other people, 453 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: and you also won't all the need to recoil if 454 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: you don't think you're perceived as good as someone else. Um. Yeah, 455 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: I think from for me when I think about kind 456 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:14,479 Speaker 1: of the mythology of our culture. Every we are a 457 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 1: series of myths, right, That's what we are. Um. And 458 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: we're at a stage in history where we've got to 459 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: test every single myth is it true? Every single one, 460 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: every single one of us has to test is it true. 461 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: I'll give you a couple of examples. Um. Rapunzel, do 462 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: you remember Rapunzel, super ridiculously long hair, stuck in the tower, 463 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: trapped quote unquote trapped. She helped her mother get in 464 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: and out of the tower for years, help the prince 465 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: get in and out of the tower. Girl, it was 466 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: your hair. Why didn't you help yourself get out of 467 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: the tower? Like, why didn't you use your giftedness, your abilities, 468 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: your uniqueness to help yourself? Right? So here's a subtle 469 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: little message of use your gifts to help other people, 470 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: not to help yourself. A little mermaid, you can have 471 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: the man of your dreams. Oh you have to do 472 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: is give up your voice. I mean, really, we play 473 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: that far our children. Beauty and the Beast, Oh god, 474 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: I know, I know it. Beauty and the Beast, my 475 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: favorite dis the movie of all time. Remember how the 476 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: movie starts, Bell is in the dungeon. The Beast put 477 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: her father in the cold dungeon. Bell comes in and 478 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: sacrifices herself to be his prisoner. So right, yeah, I mean, 479 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: do I have the story? And then she wins him 480 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: over right? I mean it's like Stockholm syndrome. He yells 481 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: at her, he terrorizes her. She even runs out in 482 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: the night in the night one of the in the 483 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: movie because he scares her so badly. But does the 484 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: message you true love will make a beast a prince 485 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: and you should tolerate all of this bad behavior until 486 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: he transforms. No, no, and he only transforms if you 487 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: love him. If you love him. Oh girl, that's some 488 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: toxic mess. And we really literally play that. We've all 489 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: been raised on that, And I always want to tell people, like, 490 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: we're at a point where so many of us have 491 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: embodied that archetype of without even realizing, without realizing, we're 492 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: co creating a new reality. And some of this stuff 493 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: it just has to go. It just has to go. 494 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: We have to look at it objectively, even if we 495 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: love it. It's like vix vapor rub. They have been 496 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: seven thousand reports that tell you it does not work. 497 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: It isn't how many houses in America because people still 498 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: believe you gotta cold put some vix on your chest. 499 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: It doesn't work. But we love to hold onto and 500 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: grasp our mythology. So my favorite myth that is giving 501 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: me life right now is the college cheating scandal. It's 502 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: giving me life. It's giving me life in my soul 503 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: because one of the biggest myths in the world is 504 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: if you go to the Ivy League, you're better. They're 505 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: just better. Well, if of the school is legacy kids 506 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: who just got in because their parents went there, how 507 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: could it possibly be better. It's like, it's not possible 508 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: for it to be better, right, But we we sustained 509 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: those stories and those myths, and so now here we 510 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: have this child college cheating scandal and it's cracking it 511 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: wide open and we get to see, wait, maybe this 512 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: isn't true. Maybe that young lady who um stepped over drugs, 513 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: dodged um gangs, ended up graduating top of her class, 514 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: but she went to University of Houston instead of Harvard. 515 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: Maybe she's valuable too, Maybe she doesn't have great internships 516 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: or great correctra extracurricular activities because she was working two 517 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: jobs to pay for her younger siblings. You mean you 518 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: can't use her in your company because she didn't go 519 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: to Brown, because she didn't go to Princeton. Of course 520 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: you can. So we're seeing what I think of as 521 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: a great unlearning, a great cracking open of peeling the layers. Yeah, 522 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: and just throwing away stuff that doesn't serve us. And 523 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: one that I'm I'm personally struggling with as a black woman. 524 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: You have to be twice as good. You have to 525 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: jump twice as high, you have to be twice as 526 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, I'm enough. I don't even have to 527 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: be twice of anything. What if I'm just enough? Just 528 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: as I am. You take me or you leave me, 529 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: but I am enough. Think of the message, and I 530 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: get the intention of pushing you to strive and to 531 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: work harder and to understand limitations. But I don't want 532 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: to teach my daughter limitations. I don't want to tell 533 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: her that she's not enough just being herself. Right. So, 534 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: so my biggest challenge to people is to test your beliefs, 535 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: think about what you think about, think about what you consume, 536 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: feed yourself correctly. That's why I love the work that 537 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: you do, because what you feed is what grows what 538 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: you put into your psyche. I always say you have 539 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: to protect your magic, right, and we don't protect our magic. 540 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: We take all kinds of nonsense into our spirit. And 541 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: they were surprised that we get nonsense out of it. 542 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,719 Speaker 1: And must be clear to like what magic is, right 543 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: because a lot of people think that magic is that 544 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: they're attractive, or that you know they have the latest 545 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: this or the latest that, or their popular magic is 546 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: self awareness. So magic is being so deeply in acceptance 547 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: of yourself that you are unmovable, or as I like 548 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: to say, you are unfatable, because no matter what is 549 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: happening around you, you accept yourself and you're honest with 550 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: yourself about who you are, and you're being of service 551 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: on your terms. Like that to me is magic, you 552 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: know absolutely, Because I think that we've gotten to a 553 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: space where we have a short list of what's great. 554 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: M So many things are great. Oh that's good. So 555 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: many things are great. There's so many gifts that we 556 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: overlook or we squander, you know, and I call it 557 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: the Michael Jordan's principle. Right, the person that can dance 558 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: wants to be able to sing the purple, that person 559 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: that can see wants to be able to write the 560 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: person we naturally covet other people's gifts. When you are 561 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: in the fullness of yourself, you are crystal clear what 562 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: your gifts are and what you bring to the world. 563 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, the greatest basketball player in the world, wants 564 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: to play baseball. That's just how we are as human nature. 565 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: We want to push into something else. But if you 566 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: learn how to find your gift and you own it 567 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: and you share it unapologetically, unrestrictedly, just you're clear about 568 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 1: what your magic is, who can stop you? Who can 569 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: stop you? You know? Um, that's so beautiful. Like Martha 570 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: Stewart is very interesting to me. Randomly. Martha Stewart got 571 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: famous for organizing plates and having chickens and pick and 572 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: paint colors. Stuff that was nothing. Really, people discarded it 573 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: as nothing housework. Housework is nothing. She made a multi 574 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: billion dollar industry off of plates and cupcakes. It recipes 575 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: things that people thought of as nothing. Right, and so 576 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: if you just work in your giftedness. I don't even 577 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 1: know what. I don't even know where you can end up, 578 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 1: especially now where there's people on YouTube that are doing 579 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: some small, tiny, little niche of something, but everybody in 580 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,720 Speaker 1: the world that cares about that little niche of something, 581 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: watches them, has found them. Yeah, and you know what 582 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: I love about that? I think that also speaks to 583 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: if your intention is only to elevate yourself above other 584 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: people to serve your ego, or if your intention is 585 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: only right to be like really popular or really I 586 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: guess I keep coming back to, like this idea of 587 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: you want to be compared or you want to be 588 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,240 Speaker 1: better than this, then that that is not what's standing 589 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: in your purposes. That is not how you're really going 590 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: to have what you just described, you know, like being 591 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 1: in the fullness and the full authenticity of who you are. 592 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: Like that's true success. If I have to wear a 593 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,760 Speaker 1: mask to do it, I don't want it. It's funny. 594 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: I my stylist M one of my girlfriends that helps 595 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: me put together outfits now that I've been doing a 596 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,720 Speaker 1: lot more speaking and a lot more on camera stuff, 597 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: because if you leave me to my own devices, I 598 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: am in a wife beater with some crystal necklaces and 599 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: my Zara sweatpants and probably some fire Nikes. That's my 600 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: day to day, right, But so she's been helping me 601 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: plug together pieces. I'm someone that does not wear the 602 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 1: clothes in their closets. I buy all the cute stuff, 603 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: and then when it's time to get dressed, I'm like, no, 604 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: let me just put on my cute little tea and 605 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: tuck it into my jeans. Um. So, anyway, long story 606 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: short is um. She she's phenomenal what she does. She 607 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: has an artistic eye. But when she dresses me sometimes 608 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: she pulls clothes for me that just really don't feel 609 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: like me, or like it'll be like a six inch 610 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: heeld right or you know, and she'll be like, but 611 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: dev like pain is beauty, like commit to the moment, 612 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,399 Speaker 1: you know. And a lot of people are down with that. 613 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 1: That's cool. I have flat feet. I don't like wearing 614 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: heels at all, like that are like over four inches 615 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: at most, right. But I especially know myself and the 616 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: work that I'm doing right now at this moment in 617 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,760 Speaker 1: my life requires that I show up as such a full, 618 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 1: authentic version of myself in all moments. So if I 619 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 1: wear those six inch stiletto heels and this outfit that 620 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 1: feels uncomfortable but looks killer in a picture for my 621 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,399 Speaker 1: from my grid for my Instagram, I can't be who 622 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: I really am, right because I'm gonna be on that 623 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 1: stage talking to people about real soul lessons, about states 624 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: of higher consciousness, about the depths of myself with an 625 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: openness and and authenticity that can allow them the freedom 626 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: to be themselves. If for one second I am trying 627 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 1: to speed through it because as my feet hurt or 628 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,919 Speaker 1: I'm uncomfortable or I can't move my body the way 629 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 1: that I am, that I am limiting my purpose. So 630 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: I know myself that well you know what I mean. 631 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: So it's like me and her will kind of go 632 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: at it sometimes and I'm like, I need you to understand. 633 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 1: I get it, and I love what you're able to 634 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: create for yourself and for other people that can own 635 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: that space. But I also really know me, and I 636 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: would rather be cute, becomfortable first. I have to feel 637 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 1: like me to do the work that I'm doing in 638 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: this moment in my life, you know, or in this 639 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: time when it's more important to look good than to 640 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: be good. Yeah, well, let's let's sit here, let's talk 641 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: about this. I love social media, it's awesome, but it 642 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 1: has become a cage. Masterpieces take time to create. Michael 643 00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: Angelo didn't do the Sustaine Chapel on television. I'm sure 644 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: you had to make a lot of corrections, you had 645 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: to fix a lot of stuff. This is the first 646 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 1: time in history where the creative process happens in real time. Yeah, 647 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 1: I worry how many Sistine Chapels are we going to get? Yeah? Yeah? 648 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: And it really brings up so much self sabotage because 649 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,800 Speaker 1: of the pace of life in this moment, right, because 650 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, typically it's like when you think of this journey, 651 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: we all have unpacking to do. Um, we all have 652 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: trauma to work through. Some people's trauma is more severe 653 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 1: than others, right, Some people's resilience is a little less 654 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: than other people's, so their process is different. Um. But 655 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,240 Speaker 1: typically you're able to move at a certain pace where 656 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 1: life unfolds for you in such a way that you're 657 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,760 Speaker 1: learning and more bite sized pieces, and you're you're putting 658 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,839 Speaker 1: yourself together in a way that maybe a little bit 659 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 1: more comfortable. And right now, we really are in the 660 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,839 Speaker 1: Age of awakening, Like the frequency we're all operating on 661 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: is happening so fast in every aspect, not just with 662 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: this comparable Instagram world, or with career or with you know, 663 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: how you're curating yourself, but really the lessons and the 664 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: access we're of information that we're able to have to 665 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: like soul lessons and healing lessons, is coming so fast 666 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,359 Speaker 1: that the work is happening fast, which means your level 667 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 1: of discomfort and sometimes suffering is a lot deeper, you know. 668 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,839 Speaker 1: And so when you are rushing through life and all 669 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 1: the other aspects and all the other facets, you were 670 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: going to face more inner turmoil then you might have 671 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: if you slow down, especially if what you're consuming is 672 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:48,720 Speaker 1: all milk, it's all basic, it's all surface surface, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 673 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 1: you have to challenge yourself and seek out depth. And 674 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: that's hard. Admittedly, that's hard. In our culture. It's so hard, 675 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: and you know it's it's too It's just I don't know, 676 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 1: I think so much of it really comes back to 677 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: some themes we've already hit on, which is just focus 678 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: on accepting yourself first, right, like a prayer that I 679 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 1: share my meditations and I know I've said it on 680 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: this show before, but if you really ask yourself every 681 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: single day, for thirty days throughout the day, you got 682 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 1: still and you said, God, please show me the truth 683 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: of who I am, your life would be radically changed. 684 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: When you look up in a month, your life would 685 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: be radically changed to some people. You would change, You 686 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,399 Speaker 1: would change some major elements of your life. You would 687 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: transform yourself. You would come into acceptance with yourself because 688 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: the truth of who you are is that you possess 689 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: both light and dark. The truth of who you are 690 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 1: is that, yeah, you're a really good person, you know, 691 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 1: on a soul level that's worthy of love and compassion. 692 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: But also you probably got your ship with you and 693 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: you've also probably been damaging in some aspects of your life. Right, 694 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: But you're both, and you're still worth be and you're 695 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: still enough, and you're still worth giving love to, you know. 696 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 1: But we have to stand in the fullness of both 697 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: those sides. None of us are perfect. If you're looking 698 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: at me and my story and you're thinking I'm perfect, 699 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 1: I will be the first to tell you I'm not. 700 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 1: I face many challenges, I've gotten it wrong a lot 701 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 1: of times, but at this moment in my life. Something 702 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 1: I'm committed to is giving my best effort to myself 703 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 1: in the world, whatever that looks like, from each day, 704 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: and loving myself that I mean, I am in full 705 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 1: acceptance of all the facets of who I am, you know, 706 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: And that's the only way to be None of us 707 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: will ever be perfect because we were brought to this 708 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:48,800 Speaker 1: earth as souls to experience humanity. The human condition is flawed, 709 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,240 Speaker 1: and I think it's really important who we emulate. Yeah, 710 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 1: follow who we you know, That's that's what social media is, Right, 711 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 1: it's follow culture. Who do you follow? Who are you 712 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: listening to? Right? You can sit and listen to the 713 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: You have access now to the deepest philosophers, the most 714 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 1: amazing minds, the most incredible spiritual leaders. You can just 715 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:18,919 Speaker 1: get on YouTube. But is that what we watch? Yeah, 716 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: you're watching these quick little potentially you know, quick little 717 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 1: like motivating videos from someone whose story you don't know, 718 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily have experience on what they're talking about. 719 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,839 Speaker 1: I came in this environment to win. What does it 720 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 1: take to do that? And why is my ego so 721 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: fragile that what somebody who doesn't have anything to do 722 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 1: no bearing on my success or failure. He says something, 723 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 1: and I'm off to the races. I work very hard 724 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: to never allow anyone to weaponize my responses. I have 725 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 1: to keep my cool. I fight fire with water. I 726 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: try to stay so lazy or focus on what I'm 727 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 1: trying to accomplish. And if you're aligned with that and 728 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 1: you want to get down with that, great and if 729 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: you don't, thank you so much, just stay over there. 730 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 1: I do not feel like I have to fight every 731 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 1: battle and convert every soul. I have been in some 732 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 1: of the most hostile work environments. I've been the only 733 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,799 Speaker 1: black person, the only woman, the first black person, the 734 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:25,320 Speaker 1: first woman, so many times, and people underestimate you. Okay, 735 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: that's that's part for the Cords, that's the gig, that's 736 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 1: the game. I know that when I'm walking into that situation. 737 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 1: If I wanted to be an all female environment, I 738 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: would work in a hair salon. That's not what I chose. 739 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 1: I chose. It's kind of like you're climbing um Everest 740 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,320 Speaker 1: and you don't bring a coat, like it's a harsh environment. 741 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: Pack your coat here, complaining about the climb, and it's 742 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 1: like you know where you were going you knew where 743 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,359 Speaker 1: you were going. And that doesn't mean it doesn't hurt. 744 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean it doesn't matter. It doesn't mean it's 745 00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 1: not wrong. It means it doesn't matter. You have a goal, 746 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: focus on their goal and reach it, and don't let 747 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 1: people who don't matter pull you off. Course. The little 748 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 1: battles and the little engagements I see people get into, 749 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 1: I'm just like, why why Yeah, like what what does 750 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: it really serve your ego? I told him, he's not 751 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 1: gonna talk to me like that. Okay, Okay, now you're 752 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 1: angry black woman in office and not even that, like 753 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 1: but so so so what more like that? Because especially 754 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 1: if you because I think people's desire sometimes when they 755 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 1: when they get into it with other people on a 756 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 1: soul level, it's really a desire for them to change 757 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: the way they're being treated or changed the way that 758 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 1: someone is treating them or living their lives. Right, telling 759 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,720 Speaker 1: someone off, there might be a ten percent window there. Listen, 760 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,319 Speaker 1: I have my stories in my past, but it is 761 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,359 Speaker 1: nothing is going to change that person. So there there 762 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: are other ways that you can pivot um if you 763 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,360 Speaker 1: want to see real change, but it has to be 764 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 1: led by your soul by compassion and not by ego. 765 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 1: Absolutely change only happens without ego. Real lasting change and 766 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 1: energy is finite. Yeah, it's finite. I don't have the 767 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 1: energy to raise all of these people in this environment 768 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,439 Speaker 1: who may not think I'm worthy of being here, right, 769 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: I don't have to prove to you that I am. 770 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 1: Gonna know I am. It's gonna take every drop of 771 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 1: my energy to accomplish my goals. I don't have it 772 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 1: to give you, and we just give it away. Fight 773 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:46,800 Speaker 1: fights that don't have to be fought. There are real fights. 774 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,359 Speaker 1: There are places where you need to stand up, there 775 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,400 Speaker 1: are places where you need to and you have to 776 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,319 Speaker 1: build your currency first, because are you trying to win? 777 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: Are you trying to be heard? I don't want to 778 00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,760 Speaker 1: just be heard. I want to affect change. Yeah, right, 779 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 1: So what does it take to do that? And I 780 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,799 Speaker 1: think that, Um, there's so much advice. I mean to 781 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 1: your example earlier of just you gotta go in there 782 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 1: and tell him that he's gonna give you that raise 783 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 1: because you deserve it, because you are that is not 784 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 1: You have to learn how to operate in every environment 785 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 1: and be careful who gives giving you advice about what 786 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 1: you should do and how you should do it? Yeah, yeah, 787 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 1: especially check the pedigrees, right, because not everybody should be 788 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,959 Speaker 1: able to speak life into your world. Would you share 789 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,720 Speaker 1: with me, especially because this episode is so career focused 790 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: And when I tell you, guys, I really hope you 791 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: take time to follow Denise because she is so powerful 792 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 1: about so many subjects. Today only because we have a 793 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 1: tight schedule, we're focusing on career, but she's a bar 794 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,799 Speaker 1: in so many aspects. Um. But this is definitely like 795 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 1: the career episode. But so would you talk to Denise 796 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: a little bit too? Investing in yourself in business? Because 797 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 1: and I want to share with everybody a little bit 798 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 1: of my own entrepreneurial story. Obviously, everyone who is maybe 799 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 1: on this episode is familiar with the fact that I 800 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,759 Speaker 1: worked for many, many years in radio and broadcasting in 801 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 1: some TV, and now I am fully a hundred percent 802 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,360 Speaker 1: in the wellness world. I might still reach back for 803 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 1: a couple of gigs, but this is the space that 804 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 1: I'm committed to for my life's work. Um. But I 805 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 1: want to tell people I didn't just wake up and 806 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 1: say I'm gonna quit my job and yeah, let me 807 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,439 Speaker 1: just start a business over here and it's all good. Like, Yeah, 808 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm getting a lot of beautiful opportunities I am so 809 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 1: grateful for right now, and I'm able to still dabble 810 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 1: in in something that fulfills me, like doing this podcast 811 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 1: and using my skill set there. But I've I did 812 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 1: a lot of work to be able to stand in 813 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 1: this field and command a certain amount of money and 814 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 1: get into the rooms that I'm in and be trusted 815 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,280 Speaker 1: by the women who trust me in doing this work. 816 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:04,799 Speaker 1: You know, I have spent thousands of dollars investing in 817 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 1: myself to show up in the exact ways that I 818 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 1: need to. I'm certified in many different things. I don't 819 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 1: particularly like going to school. I don't particularly like sitting 820 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 1: in class for twelve hours a day for three days 821 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:26,879 Speaker 1: in a row every month. I don't particularly like it, 822 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,879 Speaker 1: but I'm doing it because something I've realized is do 823 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 1: I have my own story and testimony that can help people? Absolutely? Do. 824 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 1: I have a huge life full of lots of multidimensional 825 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 1: experiences and have I had a lot of success. Absolutely, 826 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 1: But if I want to help people heal, just applying 827 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,360 Speaker 1: the ways I healed aren't going to be enough, right, 828 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,240 Speaker 1: because that's only going to get to a certain amount 829 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 1: of people. So I also need to quit myself and 830 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 1: tighten up on the areas that I don't know by 831 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 1: heart already. So I've invested in myself over the last 832 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 1: several years of doing lots different programs, doing lots of 833 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,720 Speaker 1: psychology training, is doing lots of spiritual work and retreats 834 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,960 Speaker 1: and all those things grow me as a person. But 835 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 1: it also grows my ability to be of service to 836 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 1: the people I want to serve. But I didn't just 837 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 1: wake up and say listening to me because I know 838 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 1: how to curate myself for you. I'm sharing with you 839 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 1: stuff that I know works. And it's so tempting today, right, um, 840 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:34,279 Speaker 1: Because the truth of the matter is, when you have 841 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:39,240 Speaker 1: a goal, it's not really the difficulty of the path 842 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 1: to the goal that stops us. It's the ease of 843 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 1: the path to a lesser goal. I would say that 844 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 1: one more time. That is good. It's not the difficulty, 845 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,160 Speaker 1: it's not the hurdles, it's not the challenges of getting 846 00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 1: to the goal. It's that the alternatives are so much easier. 847 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 1: Why would I sit in class for twelve hours if 848 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 1: I mean nobody's asking me to do that. I can 849 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 1: just slap up a logo and say I got this 850 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,720 Speaker 1: and started. You know, nobody's asking me to learn these skills. 851 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,239 Speaker 1: They're always pushing me to develop myself and develop the 852 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 1: skill set. They'll accept me however I present myself. That's tempting, man, 853 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,440 Speaker 1: And that's what it feels like the whole world is doing. 854 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:32,799 Speaker 1: It's tempting to take your your portion and instead of 855 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 1: multiplying it, slap it on lunchbox and start selling it. Right, 856 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,880 Speaker 1: But you have to have a commitment to continued growth, 857 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 1: even though there are such great alternatives. It's easy. So 858 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,839 Speaker 1: I could sit on panels all day long, right, I mean, 859 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,239 Speaker 1: I know you could do the thing. I'm invited to 860 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:57,400 Speaker 1: speak all over the world. Um, but there's some stuff 861 00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 1: that I want to accomplish in the world. There's something 862 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 1: someone to build and they're not as quick and it's 863 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:08,239 Speaker 1: not as easy, and it's not as quite frankly, ego gratifying. 864 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 1: It's when they call you know, like, um, you know 865 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,359 Speaker 1: I have a spot running on Lifetime TV right now. 866 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,279 Speaker 1: It was cool when Lifetime calls me and says, hey, 867 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 1: we want you to be the coach on Project come back. 868 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,840 Speaker 1: Well doing you now? Right? It's validating and it's cool 869 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,400 Speaker 1: to do all these great activities. And I know you 870 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:28,839 Speaker 1: do a lot of great stuff. I do a lot 871 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,960 Speaker 1: of great stuff, but never lose sight of your goal 872 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,400 Speaker 1: and never um, you're cheating the whole world if you 873 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 1: don't sharpen your saw, if you don't harness yourself. I mean, 874 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,360 Speaker 1: think of athletes that shoot a million free throws just 875 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,880 Speaker 1: even though they're great and rebounds, they're great, they what 876 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,480 Speaker 1: am my week at? They still work on developing that 877 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:57,360 Speaker 1: skill because I cheat the world out of the fullness 878 00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 1: of my magic if I don't hold and sharpen and 879 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 1: harness every gift that lies in me. And that might 880 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 1: take money, it might take time, It might take um, 881 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,600 Speaker 1: it might take um subordinating yourself going into environment where 882 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 1: you're an intern and they treat you like trash for 883 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 1: a couple of years. It may take that to learn 884 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,200 Speaker 1: what you've got to learn to do the big thing 885 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 1: that you want to do. So it's it's you know, 886 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 1: I am so proud of you. I'm proud of you 887 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 1: because you know, it's it's hard to do stuff you 888 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,880 Speaker 1: don't have to do. You don't have to do it. 889 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:41,120 Speaker 1: Nobody's you know, nobody's like standing over when you're ten 890 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 1: years old and you know you got to go to 891 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,759 Speaker 1: school today and you've gotta do this, You've gotta clean 892 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,839 Speaker 1: your room. There's there's no mom now. Now it's all 893 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 1: us choosing each and every day, like how we're going 894 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 1: to operate in the world and who we're gonna be. 895 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,880 Speaker 1: And it's easy to just stay at three when everybody 896 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 1: like three. Everybody loves your three. And I'm just watching 897 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 1: you committed to go to ten and it's beautiful to 898 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,479 Speaker 1: thank you for saying that. I really appreciate that. Yeah, 899 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,840 Speaker 1: I think, and for each of us, we have whatever 900 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 1: version that is. Like, it is like if I stayed 901 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,400 Speaker 1: at a three, I would I've kind of built my 902 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:22,760 Speaker 1: life celebrated at three. I would still go get invited 903 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,960 Speaker 1: to all of the things and do this and that 904 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,840 Speaker 1: and have a fun life if I stayed at three. 905 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:34,880 Speaker 1: But I know I can exist at a ten. I 906 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,000 Speaker 1: know I am a ten, I'm a twenty, I'm all 907 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 1: these things right, and so you know, I don't know 908 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 1: the I think for for everyone listening, what I really 909 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,239 Speaker 1: hope you take away is if you know that you 910 00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,480 Speaker 1: have a calling on your life, if you know you're 911 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 1: called to do something. Don't just settle for entry level mediocre. 912 00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:03,759 Speaker 1: Don't just settle for the popularized bag right for the 913 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,799 Speaker 1: quick payday, Because life truly is a marathon. What are 914 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,640 Speaker 1: you building? I, at least hope my desire is that 915 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,359 Speaker 1: what I am building right now, with my head down 916 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,440 Speaker 1: and tunnel vision being kind of quiet in some aspects, 917 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 1: is going to be what I am blessed to be 918 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 1: able to do for the rest of my life. You know, 919 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 1: take some money and invest in the process of creating 920 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:32,320 Speaker 1: something proprietary that will be yours, that has a quality 921 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,160 Speaker 1: that people can trust, and they'll come back for the 922 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,960 Speaker 1: second sale and the third and the fourth. You know. 923 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 1: It's that oven mentality, it really is. It's if you 924 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 1: what are you building? What is your end game? You know, 925 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,720 Speaker 1: hustle mentality. I was addicted to it for so long. 926 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 1: I live my life in the grind for so long, 927 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 1: and that you know, hashtag boss, bitch, girl boss, all 928 00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 1: of the things right, I lived and breathed it. I 929 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,080 Speaker 1: was a stress addict. But where was it really taking 930 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,279 Speaker 1: me and what was the what was the quality of 931 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 1: my life going to be and look like and feel like? 932 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,759 Speaker 1: So take the time, you know, starting and I know 933 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,680 Speaker 1: you you completely stend alignment with this, with the building 934 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,160 Speaker 1: of watch your work. It's like I had to take 935 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,640 Speaker 1: on a lot of humility to start this new business. 936 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 1: I had to learn a lot about myself. It It 937 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,319 Speaker 1: was not easy giving up some of the glitz and 938 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 1: glamor of working in entertainment seven and what I had 939 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:33,200 Speaker 1: spent over a decade building there to start from scratch 940 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,720 Speaker 1: in a new world that I didn't have an audience 941 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,719 Speaker 1: in that world. You know, like if I put out 942 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,280 Speaker 1: if I put out a YouTube video with a rapper, 943 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,799 Speaker 1: I guarantee you it would go viral. All of my 944 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 1: content went viral, or I would instantly within the first 945 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,480 Speaker 1: hour on said YouTube video have a hundred thousand views 946 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,960 Speaker 1: because I'm talking to a rapper about his music. Right 947 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 1: when I first launched Karmel Bliss and I put a 948 00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:03,439 Speaker 1: video on YouTube meditating five views, right a year later 949 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,879 Speaker 1: was only at a hundred because the world that I'm 950 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:11,759 Speaker 1: operating in is not as accessible for people. Not everybody 951 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,720 Speaker 1: is ready to do the work or learn the tools. 952 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,160 Speaker 1: But I knew that walking in and signing up, and 953 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 1: that's the audience I want anyway, you know, so it's 954 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,080 Speaker 1: like even in, don't be afraid to do the hard work. 955 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 1: Now identifize yourself, be a beginner. And that's that's the niece. 956 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 1: I love that you said that, because that's what I 957 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 1: surrender to. My ego fought it. Like the first year 958 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,720 Speaker 1: of becoming out entrepreneur, my ego fought it, and I 959 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 1: was trying to stay one foot in this world, one 960 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,920 Speaker 1: foot in my old life, and I couldn't be clear 961 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 1: on my vision being in that space. When I surrendered 962 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,080 Speaker 1: to the fact that I don't have to keep up 963 00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:50,440 Speaker 1: any looks or appearances for anybody, I can be a beginner, 964 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 1: and it's okay because I know this is my calling. 965 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,320 Speaker 1: And not only is it okay, it's what has to happen, 966 00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,479 Speaker 1: because you cannot be great if you don't them through 967 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 1: a journey. And then I look up three years later, 968 00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,400 Speaker 1: I have a thriving business. We're in department stores, I 969 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:10,240 Speaker 1: have I'm booked out for the next year of speaking, 970 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 1: I'm traveling every week, I'm writing my second book. And 971 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,840 Speaker 1: guess what if I didn't embrace being a beginner, I 972 00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 1: would have none of this right now. I would be 973 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 1: stuck in the exact same spot suffering inside because I'm 974 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,720 Speaker 1: trying to keep two worlds together because I'm not fully 975 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,200 Speaker 1: committing to what my calling is. And the time, as 976 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:31,280 Speaker 1: I've said before, everybody listening, the time passes anyway. So 977 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,240 Speaker 1: I could have looked up three years later and had 978 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,480 Speaker 1: nothing to show for it, you know absolutely. I know 979 00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,680 Speaker 1: when I started UM watch your work, there was there 980 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,320 Speaker 1: were so many stats thrown around, like black women get 981 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,440 Speaker 1: UM point Over the last ten years, black women have 982 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:51,280 Speaker 1: gotten point o o six percent of all VC funds, 983 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:57,080 Speaker 1: not even one half of one percent? Right, I can 984 00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:01,600 Speaker 1: decide is that gonna define me? Am I not going 985 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,600 Speaker 1: to try this? Am I not going to put my 986 00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:08,000 Speaker 1: toe in this water? Or I can say you never 987 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:12,800 Speaker 1: step in the same river twice, that tomorrow can be 988 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,640 Speaker 1: better than yesterday? Can I Can I step out onto 989 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:20,320 Speaker 1: a bridge that isn't yet built. Literally, That's what I'm doing. 990 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm walking out and they're building the bridge as we 991 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 1: go along. Right. But if you if you don't approach 992 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:32,240 Speaker 1: the world with the optimism that you can start small 993 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,960 Speaker 1: and build, then what are you doing? I just don't know, 994 00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,000 Speaker 1: Like that's the only way to approach it. You have 995 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,919 Speaker 1: to believe that it's worth investing the time to learn 996 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,240 Speaker 1: the skills. It's worth investing the time to master the 997 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,160 Speaker 1: information and the content. You have to believe that and 998 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,959 Speaker 1: go into the situation and you're gonna pivot, You're gonna 999 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,120 Speaker 1: have things you have to change, or you're gonna refine things. 1000 00:59:56,280 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 1: But diamonds are made overnight. We we all want diamonds 1001 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:05,320 Speaker 1: that we don't want the pressure, and that's just not 1002 01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 1: how it happens. Trust the calling on your life and 1003 01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,600 Speaker 1: do the work necessary to honor that calling. And I 1004 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,640 Speaker 1: also want to talk a little bit about people who 1005 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,320 Speaker 1: don't have a calling, yes, because there's a lot of 1006 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,800 Speaker 1: people who are really struggling. Well they haven't identified their 1007 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 1: calling yet. Well, but calling is is misused and purpose 1008 01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:30,440 Speaker 1: is misused. Right. Not every calling or purpose has to 1009 01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:34,320 Speaker 1: be quantified by a career path. Absolutely, Yeah, So everybody 1010 01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:38,080 Speaker 1: has a calling, Like everybody's calling is to use your 1011 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 1: unique gifts to be of service. But for everyone it 1012 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 1: doesn't have to or just may not translate into everybody 1013 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,480 Speaker 1: knowing who you are, or you having a big social 1014 01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:52,520 Speaker 1: media presence, or you having you know, billions of dollars, right, 1015 01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,919 Speaker 1: because that's not any of the things that God cares 1016 01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,880 Speaker 1: about he called. He cares that you honor the calling 1017 01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,600 Speaker 1: he put on your heart and whatever way you're able 1018 01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:04,240 Speaker 1: and in whatever way unfolds for you without that connection 1019 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 1: to ego about how you're being perceived or treated. Yeah. Yeah, 1020 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,960 Speaker 1: I just started working with a group in a in 1021 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:19,080 Speaker 1: Texas that their focus is young people nineteen who have 1022 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:23,400 Speaker 1: opted out? What does that mean? They have They're they're 1023 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:27,680 Speaker 1: living in their parents basement, they're playing video games all day. 1024 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,760 Speaker 1: They've checked out. They they're not looking for jobs. And 1025 01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,400 Speaker 1: the percentage of the people that are in that situation 1026 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:39,360 Speaker 1: in the US is steadily growing. And I think it's 1027 01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:44,439 Speaker 1: because of a couple of things. First, this comparison thing 1028 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,919 Speaker 1: that we're talking about, what is an honorable job? What's 1029 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,560 Speaker 1: a good job? Right? If it's not paying six figures 1030 01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:53,640 Speaker 1: and I can't buy lambo, it's not a good job. 1031 01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,000 Speaker 1: Am I willing to start at the beginning and work 1032 01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:57,720 Speaker 1: my way up? Well, No, I need to be a 1033 01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,080 Speaker 1: VP of a blah blah blah. If I can't do 1034 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,080 Speaker 1: it at this level, I just won't do it at all. 1035 01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:06,480 Speaker 1: And then there's a I think that and I'm seeing 1036 01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,680 Speaker 1: it a lot in the young women that wait to 1037 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:13,640 Speaker 1: talk to me after I speak. Uh, they're kind of 1038 01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:17,880 Speaker 1: lost where they They really don't know what they want 1039 01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,640 Speaker 1: to do because they get so many images. It's so 1040 01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:26,360 Speaker 1: much pressure that they don't really And what I challenged 1041 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:31,080 Speaker 1: them to do is to quiet themselves. Turned down the noise. 1042 01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,800 Speaker 1: Here your own voice. Two of the people we think 1043 01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 1: of of of greatest scientists of our time, Einstein and 1044 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:47,240 Speaker 1: Srisie Newton. Einstein theory of relativity, Srisie Newton gravity. Both 1045 01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:52,000 Speaker 1: of them did it in chill time. Hm Einstein was 1046 01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:55,800 Speaker 1: under employed, he was a patent clerk. He was way underemployed. 1047 01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,440 Speaker 1: He did all of his theories and letters to his 1048 01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 1: friends and his free time. Sir Isaac Newton was sequestered 1049 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:08,080 Speaker 1: because of the plague, so he was bored. Oh let 1050 01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,520 Speaker 1: me do this theory of gravity. When was the last 1051 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:15,280 Speaker 1: time you were bored? When was the last time things 1052 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:20,720 Speaker 1: were quiet so that you could hear the voice of 1053 01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,880 Speaker 1: of what is supposed to happen in your life and 1054 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:28,600 Speaker 1: what's next. We have a portion of our young people, specifically, 1055 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:35,000 Speaker 1: that are so deluged with other people's senses of who 1056 01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,840 Speaker 1: they're supposed to be that they can't find themselves. So 1057 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:42,160 Speaker 1: the challenge that. And the encouragement I would give to 1058 01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:46,040 Speaker 1: that group that might be listening right now is turn 1059 01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:51,680 Speaker 1: it off, turn it down, step away, put it down, 1060 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:57,080 Speaker 1: find some quiet, find some softer voices. Right there are 1061 01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:01,080 Speaker 1: voices that get Let let somebody run. She rack is crazy, 1062 01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:05,120 Speaker 1: do something everybody knows about it, right, But find some 1063 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:09,800 Speaker 1: softer voices that aren't as loud. But feed your spirit, 1064 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:15,600 Speaker 1: and feed you deeply. Because we can't afford to waste genius, 1065 01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:20,800 Speaker 1: we can't afford to squander a generation. And I don't 1066 01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,920 Speaker 1: want anybody to feel lost. I don't think there's a 1067 01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:26,720 Speaker 1: worse feeling than really not having any idea what your 1068 01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,760 Speaker 1: next step is because you don't feel passionate about anything, 1069 01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:34,760 Speaker 1: because society around you demeans what you feel passionate about, 1070 01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:37,840 Speaker 1: or what you care about, or what you like. It's 1071 01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,400 Speaker 1: not cool to tell your friends that you want to 1072 01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:43,720 Speaker 1: be an accountant. Nobody right, Nobody wants to say that 1073 01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,400 Speaker 1: I really like numbers. I'm good numbers. That's corny. You 1074 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,040 Speaker 1: should be you know what I'm saying. Like, you have 1075 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,360 Speaker 1: to quiet that noise. You have to silence it and 1076 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:56,960 Speaker 1: stop stop over filling your time, over booking yourself and 1077 01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:02,840 Speaker 1: stop over stimulating your consuming. Stop And it's hard. That's so. 1078 01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:06,040 Speaker 1: It's easy to say that it is so. It takes work. 1079 01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:09,160 Speaker 1: It takes work. But I believe that you have to 1080 01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:13,840 Speaker 1: build new neural pathways. You have to shift things. You 1081 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:17,120 Speaker 1: have to do things that are new and fresh, and 1082 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,160 Speaker 1: turn things off and turn some things on, you know, 1083 01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:24,400 Speaker 1: and shake it up, because, um, there's a lot of 1084 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,000 Speaker 1: people who didn't get their purpose until they were forty 1085 01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:32,120 Speaker 1: fifty six, seventy. They didn't find it. It's the quest. Yeah, 1086 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,800 Speaker 1: it's not. It's not a race. It's not a race. 1087 01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,520 Speaker 1: It's not and you should enjoy it. You should be 1088 01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,960 Speaker 1: exploring things. That's how you're gonna find it. It's not 1089 01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:45,800 Speaker 1: coming to your house. Yeah, that's how you're gonna find it. 1090 01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,720 Speaker 1: You have to kick the tires on other experiences. You 1091 01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,400 Speaker 1: have to talk to different people, you have to go 1092 01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,760 Speaker 1: different places. That's how you're gonna find a purpose. Caring 1093 01:05:53,840 --> 01:06:01,560 Speaker 1: what people think. You have to stop caring what people think, 1094 01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,120 Speaker 1: the praise and the criticism. You have to find that 1095 01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:08,480 Speaker 1: authentic voice inside that leads you and that lets you 1096 01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,520 Speaker 1: know you're in the right place and that you matter. 1097 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:12,760 Speaker 1: And I hate to break it to you. Sometimes those 1098 01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,560 Speaker 1: people are the people that love you the most. There's 1099 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:20,360 Speaker 1: no greater there's no smaller cage in the cage of 1100 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:26,240 Speaker 1: the people that love you. Yeah right, no smaller cage homeostasis. 1101 01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,280 Speaker 1: They are trying to keep a normal and it's like, 1102 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,240 Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't want to be normal. I want 1103 01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:34,600 Speaker 1: to be abnormal. I want to be extraordinary. And sometimes 1104 01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:37,720 Speaker 1: the people that love you, you know, because in in 1105 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:39,800 Speaker 1: the they want to protect you, they want to keep 1106 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:44,280 Speaker 1: you safe. But you're not built to be safe. You're 1107 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:49,440 Speaker 1: built to do incredible, amazing, unbelievable things if you let yourself. 1108 01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,680 Speaker 1: I my heart hurts that I have to wrap the 1109 01:06:54,720 --> 01:07:01,080 Speaker 1: show up. But part of being a working new mom Um, 1110 01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,560 Speaker 1: I got a few quest dinner right now, So it 1111 01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:10,080 Speaker 1: just is um, Denise, I absolutely adore you. I we 1112 01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:11,880 Speaker 1: didn't get the chance to unpack this on the show, 1113 01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,760 Speaker 1: but Denise and I originally met because we were both 1114 01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:18,080 Speaker 1: brought on to speak on a panel many years ago 1115 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:21,000 Speaker 1: that was put together by the Route and by Toyota, 1116 01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,680 Speaker 1: and we met on that panel and we were both 1117 01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,440 Speaker 1: really into what each other had to say, and at 1118 01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:30,680 Speaker 1: the end of the panel, both of us were cornered 1119 01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:36,200 Speaker 1: in opposite corners of the room with lines that went outside. Um, 1120 01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, if people just trying to deepen their understanding 1121 01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,400 Speaker 1: of some of the things that we said. And so 1122 01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:44,120 Speaker 1: she and I connected, We exchanged numbers, then we started hanging, 1123 01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:47,080 Speaker 1: we started bouncing ideas off each other, we started co 1124 01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:51,040 Speaker 1: working together. You know. Um, we were very much organically 1125 01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:54,120 Speaker 1: brought together and then grew our friendship. And I just 1126 01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:57,640 Speaker 1: you're a treasure. I just adore you. I stand for 1127 01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,920 Speaker 1: all the things that you do. You guys have to 1128 01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,920 Speaker 1: go on the Instagram, watch her work at watch her 1129 01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:08,360 Speaker 1: work TV and at official dam and watch her work 1130 01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:12,360 Speaker 1: dot com. Um has some really phenomenal content. And I'm 1131 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,400 Speaker 1: really I really really want to stress this to you. 1132 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:19,360 Speaker 1: It's not just the kind of site that permeates the 1133 01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:23,680 Speaker 1: market right now of like career motivation and and hashtag 1134 01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,599 Speaker 1: boss babe and you know all of those things. Like 1135 01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:30,880 Speaker 1: the site is very, very intensive, and it has so 1136 01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:34,439 Speaker 1: many different categories for all types of things you could 1137 01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,200 Speaker 1: be running into in the workplace, and the content is 1138 01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:43,920 Speaker 1: just absolutely invaluable. It's over seven thousand videos, that's thousands 1139 01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:48,680 Speaker 1: of women of all walks of life from obscure careers 1140 01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:53,519 Speaker 1: to mainstream careers sharing their hard earned wisdom um that 1141 01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,400 Speaker 1: you can really pull from. So definitely, like, if you're 1142 01:08:56,439 --> 01:09:00,280 Speaker 1: looking to expand in any capacity, in any career field 1143 01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:03,439 Speaker 1: that you're in, look for areas that you can invest 1144 01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:07,800 Speaker 1: in yourself free and monetarily. Look for the real meat 1145 01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:11,519 Speaker 1: and don't just sit in the surface level stuff. It 1146 01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:13,920 Speaker 1: will not take you where you really want to go, 1147 01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,880 Speaker 1: and it will not take you to a lifestyle that 1148 01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,519 Speaker 1: is sustainable for the rest of your life. So I 1149 01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,760 Speaker 1: I love you, Denise, Thank you so much for coming 1150 01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,000 Speaker 1: on the show girl. I loved every minute of it. 1151 01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:30,680 Speaker 1: Catch you guys next time. Peace, big thank you for 1152 01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,800 Speaker 1: listening to this episode of the Dropping Gyms podcast. 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