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Speaker 1: up today the Around the NFL podcast. Here's the next

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Speaker 1: Rad Skates quarterback. Welcome back to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansens, and

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Speaker 1: I am joined by room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling and Greg Girls with all what up boys.

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Speaker 1: I like that idea that we would be the Redskins

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Speaker 1: quarter I guess we would each take a quarter. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that would make sense. Or maybe all four of us

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Speaker 1: We actually we had a it's funny. We did have

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Speaker 1: We I, I, Mark and I were talking about it

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Speaker 1: brown power. He's got the brown and stripe stripes. He

427
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Speaker 1: got the brown and blue one that he says he

428
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Speaker 1: can't wear to work, but he can wear out. We

429
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Speaker 1: should We should start to wear that. Our fans should

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Speaker 1: start it. Don't really do this, guys, but we could

431
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Speaker 1: start a Kickstarter fund to buy Mark It's people have

432
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,919
Speaker 1: more needs tonight. I just don't like shopping. I hate it, alright,

433
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 1: moving moving on. It's that time of the week. We

434
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Speaker 1: do it every week where we look at the games

435
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 1: and and sometimes one of us picks a team that

436
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Speaker 1: the rest of us did not, and that leads to

437
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 1: the time that we handsome Hank defend your hero. And

438
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 1: we'll start with the Atlanta Falcons, who are heading toward

439
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 1: heading to the super Dome and a massive matchup in

440
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Speaker 1: the NFC South. Connor Or, our New Jersey correspondent who

441
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 1: lives in a haunted mansion in New Jersey, wrote a

442
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 1: piece about how historically bad the NFC South is this year.

443
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 1: But listen, right now, they're both fighting for a chance

444
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 1: to play in the playoffs, and who knows what happens

445
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 1: in January in this case, the rest of most of

446
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,959
Speaker 1: the group, including Mark West, myself and Kevin Patrick, all

447
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 1: believe the Saints will get the job done and move

448
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 1: closer to an NFC seuth title. Greg Rosenthal believes the

449
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: Falcons will win, but with one caveat yes, I I

450
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 1: assumed that Julio Jones is playing. That's what Mike Smith

451
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 1: said early in the week. I don't know if he

452
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 1: was playing some sort of games. He is the type

453
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Speaker 1: of player that completely changes the game. He has not

454
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Speaker 1: practiced as we're taping this. If Julio Jones does play,

455
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 1: I'm sticking with it. If he's out, forget it. But

456
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Speaker 1: one of the reasons I picked him is because I

457
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 1: think this is a match of two of the very

458
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Speaker 1: worst defense in the NFL. Football Outsiders has him thirtieth

459
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 1: and thirty second, So I'm looking more at which quarterback

460
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 1: and passing game do I trust to have one great

461
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 1: game to send them to the playoffs. And right now

462
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 1: I trust Matt Ryan and Julio Jones and that Falcons

463
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 1: team who at least every week when I watched them,

464
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: now they're kind of the same team week after week.

465
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 1: I kind of know what they are. They're a C minus.

466
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: The Saints are f's or there B pluses or whatever.

467
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,719
Speaker 1: I like the Falcons better. Here's a flow on your

468
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: little offense theory. Okay, it's Thursday. Julio Jones hasn't practice

469
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: even if he plays. He was playing, I listened to

470
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: He's yeah, you're gonna take and without Julio jonescent, this

471
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 1: offense is terrible. They did say he would have been

472
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 1: more than a sheer decoy last week if he stepped

473
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 1: on the field. We ventured into the lab as well.

474
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 1: They put up four hundred yards against the Steelers last week.

475
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: Harry Douglas is a better receiver right now than Roddy White.

476
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: Whenever he steps into a starting lineup, he's over a

477
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Speaker 1: hundred yards, He's fast, he's looking good. So if you

478
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Speaker 1: can get Julio back, that's a good looking I will

479
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: say one thing about that, because I've watched them a

480
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: lot this year. Roddy White, we were talking about sticking

481
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: a fork in certain players. Roddy White is not Roddy

482
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Speaker 1: White anymore. So if Julio Jones was out, I couldt

483
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: least say, oh, yeah, Roddy White will step in and

484
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 1: Haward Douglas will make some plays. Roddie White is you know,

485
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 1: he's like, Douglas is still Harry Douglas though his name

486
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 1: is Harry and and Devin Hester is really after a

487
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 1: really nice start to the season, is cooled off quite

488
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: a bit. Me one thing. Again, this has happened to

489
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 1: our group over and over and over. We keep picking

490
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: the Saints either across the board or four of us.

491
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 1: I think we're still stuck in what we think. The

492
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 1: Saints right against the bank anyone together a week the

493
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: week before that they lost forty. The Falcons are so

494
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 1: much that it's just a reasoning. Is what is our

495
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 1: big reason for New Orleans winning this game? I don't

496
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of that out there either. The

497
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: defense cannot half as many sacks in last week's game

498
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: alone as the Falcons have all season, But but there

499
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 1: have on defense, and that's it. That that is the problem.

500
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: We kind of thought, Okay, maybe some defenders on Atlanta

501
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: will eventually step up, and it's never happened. You know, man,

502
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: your are still on this team? Does anyone? Is our

503
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 1: attempt Westling to get him to stay with the Falcon

504
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: I know, if you could tone down, I'm on the Saints, commented,

505
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm out on a limb here. I should the last

506
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: time the Saint I'm not going to be swayed by

507
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: IM mean champion Mark on the standings now have a

508
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: one game lead with two weeks to play. And if

509
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: you notice Gregg picking scared right now, and that's why

510
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: it's about, oh yeah, that's why I just picked a

511
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: touchdown underdog, and in not that we know what that is.

512
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 1: I chose the Saints more for cosmic reasons that this

513
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: has been an ugly season. Beyond ugly seasons. They've lost

514
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: four straight at home. We used to say like, oh wow,

515
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: they can't lose in the Superdome. They lost four straight

516
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: at home, and I feel like this ugly season needs

517
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: something to top it all, and that's a loss at

518
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Speaker 1: home to their arch rivals to just end the disaster.

519
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: This that's the type of team this has been. I

520
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: think you should continue with that line of thinking. And

521
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Speaker 1: I've been told by a source to my left that

522
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Speaker 1: you won't be allowed to change your pick even if

523
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: you want to. I can change it if changing the pick. Alright,

524
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: Moving on, the Cleveland Browns really tough setback last week.

525
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 1: Johnny Manzel struggled. They lost thirty nothing to the Bengals

526
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 1: and now with their season on life support now it's

527
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Speaker 1: seven and seven, they head to Charlotte to face the

528
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 1: Panthers Cam Newton. Everything is pointing to him returning to

529
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: the lineup after that car accident missing last week. And yes,

530
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: if there's a scenario where the Panthers win and then

531
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: the Falcons win, the NBFCY South is going to be

532
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: a complete mess entering Week seventeen. But let's not get

533
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: ahead of ourselves. The three of us, and by three

534
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: of us, I mean Greg, myself and West all believe

535
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: and Patra believe the Panthers will take care of business

536
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: at home and officially, and the Brown's the season. But

537
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, and kudos to you, Mr quiet Storm getting

538
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: behind his Brownies in saying they're gonna put up a

539
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: fight and they're gonna get it done in Manzelle is

540
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: gonna to use Mark's word, drop a bomb on the Panthers.

541
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 1: Well that's what I said last week about the Bengals game.

542
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: Couldn't have been more wrong. I didn't make this pick

543
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,719
Speaker 1: with a lot of confidence. But else here's what I think.

544
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: I think they're an eight and eight team and this

545
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: is their eighth win, and then from there the floor

546
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 1: falls out and they get ransacked by Baltimore. To put

547
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,160
Speaker 1: a poetic ugliness final note, on the season, but they're

548
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: gonna take care of business. I think the Panthers, these

549
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: two teams both have a lot of issues. I don't

550
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 1: think there's a great argument for Carolina taking care of Cleveland,

551
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 1: except that if we find out that Johnny Manziel in

552
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 1: the offense is what they were last week, if they

553
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: don't show more rhythm, they're in big trouble. Everything went

554
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: wrong for them last week. They couldn't run the ball.

555
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: That They've done things better than that in recent weeks.

556
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: I thought they looked I don't know. Listen, if the

557
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 1: defense plays the way I did against the Cults, yea,

558
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 1: that then you have a chance. I don't know which

559
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 1: defense will show up. This was just me throwing it

560
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: out there. Let's see what happens. I like it. They've

561
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: been a very good defense in the second half of

562
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: the year. On balance, they've been a terrible offense. They've

563
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: basically they've flipped. If you look at the Football Outsiders

564
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: has stats, I think since Week ten they were a

565
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: top seven or eight defense, but it fell apart last week.

566
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: I think that side of the ball is what decides this.

567
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: Butcause they should be able to slow down Cam Newton

568
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: and then I thought it was gonna be Derek Anderson,

569
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: which is not a huge downgrade from Newton in some aspects,

570
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: but it is overall, and I'm not switching it to

571
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: set the tone so that I don't want to say it.

572
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: I'm sticking with it no matter what quarterbacks in there.

573
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: You have to stick with your hero picks stands. Yeah,

574
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: I like that. I respect you for its. Speaking of

575
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: the Brown's offensive struggles, they're leading receiver in terms of

576
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: touchdown catches has three. Who is it, Taylor Gabriel? No,

577
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: you looking at me? Yeah, what are you? I think

578
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: I got it now? Is it Miles Austin incorrect? Yes, no,

579
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:39,479
Speaker 1: but West you are out, Dre Nod, Calvin Johnson, No,

580
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: he's not gonna get twenty five, Andrew Hacke, Travis Benjamin

581
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: and they and they all came against the Titans. There's

582
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,959
Speaker 1: a rival website of ours has a headline from three

583
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: weeks ago called Panthers starting something called Mike Remer's at

584
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: right tackle. This guy's been their best offensive tackle since

585
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: he joined The lineup in Their offensive line is actually

586
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: pretty good right now. They have been a little better.

587
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: Their defense played okay last week, you've got the Derrick

588
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: Anderson revenge angle. I think that's really going to help him. Yeah,

589
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: he'll be on the bench really shooting like laser beams

590
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: out of his eyes at the round. The Panthers have

591
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: not been a team, by the way, outside of their

592
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: division since October five, and that was the Bears. So

593
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: it's been a little while since the Panther said any

594
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: win stairs Winds don't count our final hero pick the

595
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, trying to keep their playoff hopes alive off

596
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: that great win over the Packers. Now what looks like

597
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a gimme, but maybe not. They're not

598
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: as good at home and they're playing the Raiders of Oakland,

599
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: who have been a little feisty at times. If you

600
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: throw out that fifty two nothing loss, uh, mark myself,

601
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: west I mean excusan. Gregg and Patrick all picked the

602
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: Bills to keep their playoff hopes alive. But Chris Westling,

603
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: he thinks that the Raider is gonna drop a bomb

604
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: on the Bills. Pomps, there's a bomb the dropped. You know,

605
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: growing up in the ninth in Cincinnati and living through

606
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: the nineteen nineties, I basically have a graduate degree and

607
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: how teams act in lost seasons, because I've seen so

608
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: many Bengals teams start out oh and eight and here's

609
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: what happens. They play much better at home if they're

610
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: gonna last stinkers usually on the road. And the most

611
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: important thing for cashed out players is if we stay

612
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: in the game for a quarter or a quarter and

613
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: a half, we'll stay in the game for four quarters.

614
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: If we get blown out early, we're cashing our chips

615
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: and checking out. And I think nobody. I just don't

616
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: think the Bills are a good road team. They We've

617
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: pointed out how great their defense plays at home. The

618
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: Raiders have won two straight home games, and now the

619
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: Bills with Kyle Wharton just playing awfully the last month,

620
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: I don't think the Bills are that great of a

621
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: team here. It does seem like they may get C. J.

622
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: Spiller back this week, and we don't know. We don't know,

623
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: but Doug maron Cities looked explo explosive in practice. I

624
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: don't know what that means either. But the Bills also

625
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: win the last time, you know, in the week of

626
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: Christmas that they're actually playing for something that this is.

627
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: They may respond to that in a way that they

628
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: haven't in other times. I mean, Oakland is doesn't have

629
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: a whole lot to turn. They had that the win

630
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: over the Niners. I watched them last week. They looked

631
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: completely lost. They have been a much better home team.

632
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: I mean, the last two home games are against two

633
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: teams with very similar profiles to the Bills. It was

634
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: a Chiefs team that was coming in on a big

635
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: time winning streak, not an explosive passing game. They took

636
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: care of them. Then it was a forty team that

637
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: did have a winning record when they went to Oakland.

638
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: Not an explosive passing game, pretty good defense. They took

639
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: care of them. So there is some track record here

640
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: that it's not a crazy pick. I don't think the

641
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: Raiders defense has been that bad overall, especially at home.

642
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: I just don't like at all how Kyle Orton's playing.

643
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: He's been brutal last month. There is a chance that Wes,

644
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: let's say, you know, if Derek Carr is feeling a

645
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: little under the weather, your boy Matt Shop might have

646
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: to come in and make this hero pick a reality

647
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: for you. I think this is all you need to

648
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: know about Tony Sperano as far as his capability to

649
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: be the head coach beyond two thousand and fourteen matchup

650
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: is still a second string instead of a third string.

651
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: Relax and and by the mark you brought up C. J. Spiller,

652
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: I don't think whether he players or not would make

653
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: any difference because they didn't know how to use the

654
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: guy before he got hurt. I don't imagine he's gonna

655
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: they're gonna find you. Just take that thing that I said,

656
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: just to erase it from the podcast. Some Dan Mark

657
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: he's at You're absolutely right, and no one has And

658
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: that's why the Spiller won't even be in Buffalo next

659
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: year because it's multiple coaches can't alright, I'm sorry, I'm

660
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: gonna agree with Marks. I has a little bit of

661
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: artificial drama, all right. By the way, I think there's

662
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: a little bit of grinch here that he doesn't want

663
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: these Bills fans who are having fun in December for

664
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: the first time. You know, you don't want them to

665
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: have any fun my favorite fan base, Well, just let

666
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: him be happy for another week. You just picked them

667
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: to loosen the race. Look, they get to be happy

668
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: when they have a quarterback. I'm sorry, NFL fans This

669
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: is how it works in football. You need a quarterback

670
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: to win. The Philadelphia Eagles head to Washington and to

671
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: face the Redskins and RG three Saturday Saturday game. Saturday

672
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: football is back, which is fun. Uh. This is a

673
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: game for the Eagles after they lost to the Cowboys

674
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: and and kind of bad fashion in prime time. They

675
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: obviously need this game at nine and five Washington, playing

676
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: out the string and trying to see if there's anything

677
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: that they can get out of r G three in

678
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: terms of a positive development, Greg, do we need to

679
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time in this game? Where is

680
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: Philadelphia is smart enough or prepared enough to just take

681
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: care of business against a stiff team. I think the

682
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: Eagles will crush them their offenses. So I don't like

683
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: that that terminology. Okay, I just playing a game here. Uh.

684
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: You know, my mom didn't let me have toy guns

685
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: in the house. You know, I'm a peaceful guy. You know.

686
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: Between West's Reggie Wayne comments and now you're against dropping

687
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: the bomb, it's really I don't get as an here.

688
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: I don't like it as a as a term. But

689
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: you know who, uh, you know who will be dropping

690
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: some bombs in this game? I don't like that down

691
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: the field, Mark Sanchez. I mean, the Eagles are great

692
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: at going deep down the field, and who blows more

693
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 1: coverages than the Redskins. Two of those bombs in four

694
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: games have been interceptions. Guys shown multiple picks in four games. Well,

695
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: I have I have a counter to that. I saw

696
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: this in the stat packet. Dan, you'll appreciate that you've

697
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: got that here with us today. I was flipping through

698
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: and we've got a little preview of these games, the

699
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: Saturday games on the site. The Redskins have only intercepted

700
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: five passes all year, so they're court. Their touchdown to

701
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: interception ratio is thirty three to five right now, so

702
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: they basically right. They turn them into Aaron Rodgers. That's

703
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: the worst in the league. They have only scored fifteen

704
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: points off of takeaways this year. That's hard to believe.

705
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: Star the research guy looked scrambling to find the drop button.

706
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: Where's je It's great the name of the artist West

707
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: Europe correct. I have seen over and over these games,

708
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: this these Saturday helpings, which is kind of a throwback

709
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: to I remember as a kid who loved these Saturday

710
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: games called a Christmas treat for the football fan is

711
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: r G three on national television? Is that what this

712
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 1: is at this point a Christmas treat? I'm not sure

713
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 1: if I if I need any more of RG three

714
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: at this point. With all due respect to your son's namesake,

715
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: it makes this game a lot more watchable than if

716
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: Colt mccoyson there. I mean, I am interested in he

717
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: who doesn't like a good train wreck. Well, you know,

718
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: his improvement has been severely overstated by the media this week.

719
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: He was in apt in the second half of he

720
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: in the first half he was okay. Again. He needs

721
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: structure of a play action parison game. He still can't.

722
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: He's a one read quarterback who holds the ball too

723
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: long and can't operate out of the pocket. He's taken

724
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: twenty eight sacks this year in five games, which is insane.

725
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: It's more than most starting quarterbacks. He used to be

726
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: good and now he stinks. Moving on the San Diego Chargers,

727
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: they head to San Francisco to face the Niners. Uh

728
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: that the San Diego's on life support at eight and six,

729
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: they need this win. The San Francisco forty Niners are

730
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: done at seven and seven, so just kind of playing

731
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 1: out the string. But Greg, this is an interesting game.

732
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: I guess if you're if you're trying to figure out

733
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: who's gonna win, and you're in some type of heated

734
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: picks battle like we are, there's so many The injury

735
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: report is so wild that it's really hard to figure

736
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: out what's gonna go. Well, I was waiting for the

737
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: injury report to come out, and I'm dialing it up

738
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: right here. We don't have the questionable and doubtful yet,

739
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: so I'm looking forward to But here's some of the

740
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: players that won't be playing in this game. Keenan Allen

741
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: most likely, Ryan Matthews, Uh, Carlos Hides probably not going

742
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: to be in this game, of course, cut Ray McDonald

743
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: after more legal trouble for him this week. Ahmad Brooks

744
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: is hurt, Frank Gore sounds like he will play, Justin Smith,

745
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: Steve Johnson, They're all up in the air. There's a

746
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: lot of big time players. Chris Borland is out report

747
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: this week that Phil or today that Phil Rivers has

748
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: a back injury that might be more such Jim Harbam

749
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: not be there. Well, that's what I'm saying. I want

750
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: to see who's playing in this game before I even

751
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: know who to pick. But right now we all took

752
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: the forty Niners, which is a little surprising. Ye. Phil Rivers,

753
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: I think has no more than one touchdown in five

754
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: of the last six games. This is not a good

755
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: offense right now. They have scored exactly seven points the

756
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: last two weeks. The offense has, I mean, the defense

757
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: scored ten for them, but they scored one touchdown against

758
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: the Broncos one against the Patriots. So they're two very

759
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: good defenses and they play another good defense this week.

760
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: Is this is the last chance for Niners fans to

761
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: see San Francisco and Jim Harbaugh at the what is

762
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: it Jeans Youth Hostel? Or do they play at home

763
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: next week too? I believe they wrap up their home

764
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 1: schedule next week against the Cardinals, who have been burning

765
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: Kalent Kaepernick Jersey's shame on you are ready to move

766
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: on from the season. I don't think they need to

767
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: see him anymore anymore else. But I will say the

768
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: charges I I kind of wanted to pick on originally

769
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: did pick them too that I heard about Rivers and

770
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: I got scared off. I also I find it hard

771
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: to pick them after after they let me down last week,

772
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: Sun of the sad song. I can't now go and

773
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: pick them. I gotta get out on the team around

774
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: the NFL. You can't make emotional decisions when you're playing uh,

775
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: you know, cutthroat picks league. I mean, they're not playing

776
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: the Broncos this week. They're playing the forty Niners. Yeah.

777
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: I know. It's almost something like no, I can't sing

778
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: the song again. It's this song is very fitting for

779
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: Michael Crabtree's contract to your Push, which never happened. Has

780
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: anyone cost himself more money this year than crabtreet. That's

781
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: a good one. That'd be a good post. West downstairs

782
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: and get to work. I guess i'll write it up.

783
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: All right, West, we'll be back on Sunday show. We

784
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: move on to the next game. What was it? Oh yeah,

785
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: so so far we have all Niners. I want you

786
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: to sing. You find a way to sing in every episode,

787
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: and even if it's not the Chargers. I think I

788
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: was driving West crazy downstairs because I got a famous

789
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: song from the band Corona in my head that went

790
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: like this, this is the rib of the night. Well, yeah,

791
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: in sixth grade, in sixth grade, like every song was

792
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: exactly the same when I was in middle school, and

793
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: it was a rhythm of the night, technotronics see and

794
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: see music Factory, and I think they all had the

795
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: same producer and they all the same like songwriters and

796
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: and Sweden, and everything was exactly the same. None of

797
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: those people have had to work a day in their

798
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: lives since. Did I say it was a worthy? What

799
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: is this band? Great news for this work? I I

800
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: tend to think that the band Corona, I still still

801
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: have to go make a limit. I don't know if

802
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Speaker 1: they're going Corona Royalties if they ever make it. Unto

803
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: Jock Jams, they probably did, but I would think that

804
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: Bristol probably screwed them out of some serious moving on.

805
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: The Detroit Lions head to Chicago to face the Bears,

806
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: and the Bears are a huge story right now because

807
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: of what happened at the quarterback position. Mark Trustman, Benching,

808
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: Jay Cutler, Force, Jimmy Clawson. He spoke Trustman, did today

809
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: everyone spoke? Actually just in a conga line. It was Trustman,

810
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: and then immediately behind him was the coach, I mean

811
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: was a Cutler, and then buying him was Aaron Cromer.

812
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: And it was the big Clawson then showed up. But

813
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, this is a situation

814
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: where it seems like the Lions really come out on

815
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: top of the lines need to win in the NFC.

816
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: They're a tenant four, and now they get to face

817
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: one of the worst quarterbacks in the NFL and Jimmy Clawson.

818
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 1: I think the Green Bay Packers not the you know, listen,

819
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: Cutler was not playing well at all on this team

820
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: as a disaster. But this is a huge game and

821
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: suddenly Detroit has Jimmy Clawson in their way. I mean,

822
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: I don't know Michael Silver for what it's worth, he said.

823
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: Some people in Chicago, they think Clawson's really gonna help

824
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: it out. He's gonna light it up. He did. He

825
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: did look okay in the prefect Barians believe Linley can

826
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: take him to the super Bowl, right, just like he

827
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: thought Stanton did. I would give all the sandwiches the

828
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: person who thinks that Jimmy Clausen is gonna take this

829
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Speaker 1: opportunity and run with it. It would not shock me

830
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Speaker 1: if Classon gives the exact same level of Jay Cutler

831
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: over the last few well, that's all I'm saying, and

832
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: that's not asking too much. So that's that he plays alliance.

833
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: That's tough. Yeah, this game is just like the Seahawks

834
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: Cardinals games. If the Cardinals were like their team from

835
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: five years ago that was terrible or three years ago

836
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: that was awful. I still um wrapping my mind around

837
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: Cutler that this fork in the road for his career,

838
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: because it's not just he's getting bench for anyone. Jimmy

839
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: Clawson authored I would argue the single worst quarterbacked year

840
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: of the last decade. And I went to go try

841
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 1: to find some statistical backup and it was right there.

842
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: QBR for ESPN has been in existence since two thousand six.

843
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: They went back to two then six, and Jimmy Clawson

844
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 1: season is the single worst QBR in their history. JaMarcus

845
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: Russell was was the second worst. Jimmy Clawson season was

846
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: so bad that he apologized multiple times to Steve Smith.

847
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: How can you imagine them and mugging by Steve Smith

848
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: or Jimmy Clauson that season? And can you also imagine

849
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Speaker 1: I thought about this today when the Bears are in

850
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: their little cute practice bubble and getting ready for these

851
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: last two meaningless games. Cutler watching Jimmy Clauson ahead of

852
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: him throwing these ducks down the field, and Cutler has

853
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: one of the great natural arms in the league. Not

854
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: the Cutler is a great quarterback, but to see someone

855
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: so flawed as a player in front of him, it's

856
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: got to be a real ego shot. Cutler uses that

857
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: natural arm to proceed to light a cigarette. I'm still amazed.

858
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: One of the most amazing untalked about things is that

859
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: John Fox survived that Jimmy Classon season the Panthers went

860
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: two and fourteen and John Fox somehow landed in Denver

861
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: eventually pay me well. People probably said he had Jimmy Clawson.

862
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: Is this quarterback and it's it's a it's a boys club,

863
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, Fox is one of the most

864
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 1: well liked coaches the league, long before and after it's

865
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: worked out. Yeah, it's just amazing. You don't really see

866
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: that too often. Baltimore Ravens head to Houston to face

867
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: the Texans, UH to face Case Keenum potentially in the

868
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: Houston Texans. And while we're here, the Sandwich wager, or

869
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: I should say proposition that I had that that case

870
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 1: Keenan would start more games than Ryan Mallett. Now that

871
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: that can't happen, but he can tie him with two

872
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: starts in the season, which would be one of the

873
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: great upsets, or I should say the greatest upset in

874
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: Sandwich history, because Keenom was not even attached to anything.

875
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: Uh six days ago and Ryan now it had been

876
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: named starter Weisko. The number of steps that had to

877
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: come into play for Keenom to potentially make two starts.

878
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: I love it well the Keenan winds up on someone

879
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: else's practice squad, if anything, you think he's gonna start

880
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: somewhere else. The fact that he's gonna wind up starting

881
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: as many starts to malle it with the Texans after

882
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: what we need, I'm not even I'm not even mad.

883
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: That's just amazing that Dan is gonna make this come back.

884
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: And the only thing I fear for Dan. It does

885
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: look like Keenan. By the way, they haven't announced it,

886
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: but it looks like it's gonna be. I I just

887
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: sent maybe Keenum plays this one game and then he

888
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: gets hurt or something and you lose that that way,

889
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: this seems yeah. But and but even if that happened,

890
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: I wanted to be upset because this is such a

891
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: magical carpet riding. Yeah, because of the magical carpet, right,

892
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: I think there's a magical carpet ride factor in Sandwich propositions.

893
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm willing to call it a push, even though the

894
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: word is if Keenham starts, Oh yeah, I'm willing to

895
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: do that. This is this is amazing. We don't know

896
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: for sure that's case Keenum, and we do know that

897
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: he's not gonna win. I feel like this is this

898
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: is kind of evening out the scales for the fact

899
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: that you called Johnny Man's LJA cowboys and they wanted

900
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: him but they didn't take him. Feel like that was

901
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 1: basically you were robbed the sentence. Yes, the Sandwich gods

902
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 1: are they're fair giants. Uh. The raven is gonna analysis

903
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,720
Speaker 1: from Yeah, I was gonna say less. J. J. Watt,

904
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: who is turning every week into a highlight show, does

905
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: something crazy and goes nuts. It's gonna be very hard

906
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: for the Texans to keep pace with the Ravens team

907
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: that needs us win and they're a well coached team. Right,

908
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 1: they have more yardage, more points than any other year

909
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 1: in their history. The Ravens and the look that way

910
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: they have the Gary Kubiak revenge factor. I mean, the

911
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: Texans somehow kept at a four point game again in

912
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: Indianapolis on the road last week. I don't know how

913
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: they did it. They are playing a team that signs

914
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: five new cornerbacks every week. It's amazing how many injuries

915
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: that the Ravens have had in their secondary. Here's a

916
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: very tough game I would think for Greg to watch.

917
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,479
Speaker 1: I can't imagine he'll be able to watch it because

918
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: on one side, he's got his boy Teddy Bridgewater, the

919
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: most important figure in the NFL, according to Greg Rosenthal.

920
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: But he's facing the Dolphins. Who's Greg's entire team. They're

921
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: all in the stable and Greg's stable, the whole Dolphins organization,

922
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 1: especially Ryan Tannehill. So there's a lot of love Ronald

923
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: Rosenthal loved attached to Vikings at Dolphins Week sixteen. Greg,

924
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: take us through your thought process. Well, see, it is

925
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 1: gonna be emotional watching the last couple built Joe Philbin

926
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: games down in Miami. Who could replace that? Get charisma?

927
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: I think the Vikings have done a really good job

928
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: on defense lately. They did it again against Detroit. Miami

929
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: might struggle to score in this game. It wouldn't shock

930
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: me if Minnesota won this game. Kevin Patra as a

931
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 1: hero pick on it and that it might be it

932
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: might turn out to be savvy. Gregg is an all

933
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: wrong Bridgewater seventy of his passes completed three straight games.

934
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: Just preface that by saying Greg isn't all wrong. Well, no,

935
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: it's just that's just taking a lot of heat for

936
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 1: his Bridgewater fascination and back to back three hundred yard games. Yeah,

937
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: he's looked that right, right for an upset potentially the

938
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: poor man's Andy Dalton, Teddy Bridgewater. I never we never

939
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 1: said the poor man's Andy Dalton. We thought he's at worst.

940
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have a career like Alex Smith

941
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: or Andy Dalton, which isn't so bad. He just doesn't

942
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: have a whole lot of arm talent, but he can

943
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: do everything else. What is the west? Speaking of sandwiches,

944
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: you had I believe that Mike Wallace would have the

945
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: most yardage? How is that? Looking? Where are we on

946
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: that Gronkowski has two hundred more yards at least than

947
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 1: Mike Wallace most yardagin in the division. That's right, because

948
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: the reason because we did not take me up. I

949
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: did well. Greg knows the Patriots ultimately will shine in

950
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: every aspect to humanity. I remember trying to sell you

951
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: hard on this by talking about grounk coming back and

952
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,919
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins, and you weren't buying either of those. Buying

953
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 1: e J. Manuel is Sammy Watkins quarterback, and you weren't

954
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: buying Gronks knee. Now I feel bad, but Watkins, Watkins

955
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: is probably pretty close to Walls too. He's walking to

956
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: his more than walls. Wow, Mike Wallas really is not

957
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: worked out down there. Well, he's got the wrong quarterback.

958
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: To me, the more fascinating team here's the Dolphins because

959
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: Tannehill has shown progress that year this year, but he's

960
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: not really running in NFL offense. There's no coaches gonna

961
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: come in and run the offense that Lasers running everything short.

962
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: I think look at their receiving guys. Jarvis Landry under

963
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 1: ten yards per catch, Charles Clay under ten yards per catch,

964
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: Mike Wallace, formerly one of the best deep threats in

965
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: the league thirteen yards per catch, which is three or

966
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: four yards below his average heart line eleven yards per catch.

967
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: This this offense is not a down the field attackle

968
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: do we also see like Tannehill, though notoriously missing deep

969
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: on his connections with he got one last week, he

970
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: got a you that was the most aggressive they were.

971
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: They had three or four in the first half against

972
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots. I thought, wow, this is this is what

973
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: you want to see, and then the entire second half

974
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: they didn't get a first down. If if Andy Dalton

975
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: were to join some type of ginger religious cult and

976
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: just leave the NFL, right, is it fair that we

977
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: could potentially slide Ryan Tannehill into the ad spot. You're

978
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: saying if Andy Dalton went glowing rich you wanna wanna do?

979
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 1: You want to explain what the A D scale after

980
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: Dalton scale is for new listeners. And it's the undeniable

981
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: truth that Andy Dalton is the purgatory for a franchise

982
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: in the primary ridiant of all NFL quarterbacks. He sits

983
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: in the middle. No matter what happens if your quarterback,

984
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: if your quarterback is behind Dalton on the scale, you

985
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: need a new quarterback. If he's above Dalton, he's your answer. Okay,

986
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 1: So to my point, if that ginger religious cult came

987
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: calling to Andy Dalton, they saw his eyebrows and said, Wow,

988
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: that guy could be our leader. Dalton says, yeah, I'm in,

989
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm out. Uh Randy, Ryan Tannehill, doesn't he kind of

990
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: fit the mold a little bit as a guy right

991
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: in the middle. It's too early still year. What's the

992
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: mold to me? A healthy Sam Bradford might be up

993
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: there or Jake Cutler, Now, yeah, I don't think so.

994
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: Somehow Dalton is the perfect because Tannehill still has that

995
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: feeling that even if he was twenty seven, I would

996
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: still think about him like I thought of Cutler at

997
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,919
Speaker 1: twenty seven, is like, well, there's a chance he's still

998
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: going to turn it on, you know what I mean.

999
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: And I don't think there's any chance that Dalton does

1000
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,479
Speaker 1: not burying the lead here. Andy Dalton has taken off

1001
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: on a spaceship that's hidden behind the comment and you

1002
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: guys are talking about football statistics. I mean, this would

1003
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: be a massive event in human going over QBR ratings.

1004
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: We would definitely we would definitely do two posts on that,

1005
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: more like we would have the regular news there, but

1006
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: we would also have I think Mark would be the

1007
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: man to provide some analysis. I'm just saying, you know,

1008
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: football numbers would be the b story here. And if

1009
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: you don't mind, if I could take another break off

1010
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 1: piece eight potential landing spots for the rocket, I like that.

1011
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: Where would it be? I gotta think you have to

1012
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: think beyond just Earth. I mean, you could take some time.

1013
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: It's definitely in space, somewhere in the Solar System. Moving on,

1014
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: the New Patriots are heading to the meadow Lands to

1015
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 1: face the Jets. Um the Jets coming off that thrilling

1016
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: sixteen eleven win over the Tyitoons. The Patriots just cruising,

1017
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: cruising along. Speaking of rocket ships, a rocket ride, thrones

1018
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: of ease within this rocket cruise the thirteen and three

1019
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: in the one seed. Unless they somehow blow this game.

1020
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: The Jets give them credit. They almost always give the

1021
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: Patriots a game, which Bill Belichick and uh Tom Brady

1022
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: have alluded to this week. But ultimately this seems like

1023
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: a one sided affair where the Patriots just need the game.

1024
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: They're gonna get it right. They already gave them their

1025
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: game this year, and that was in Foxborough and it

1026
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: was two points. This feels like the one where now

1027
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 1: New England's cooking and it's not particularly This game is

1028
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: too sad. I mean if you're in Tanzi Jets fans,

1029
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 1: so we feel for damn, but just also the Rex Ryan.

1030
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: The staple of Rex Ryan was to come in and say, listen, Belichick,

1031
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: listen to I'm done when but he hasn't done it. No,

1032
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: he almost did it. Well, he has he done it, Greg,

1033
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you're a Patriots. They never stood in your way. Well,

1034
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: they never won the division, they everything got close. He

1035
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 1: did do it when they knocked off the third fourteen

1036
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: and two Patriots and Brady was the m v P.

1037
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: That was I've said this before. That was the high

1038
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: point of my life as a Jets fan. And I

1039
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: thought they were going to finish it off because they're Jets.

1040
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 1: They couldn't finish it off. They lost the next week.

1041
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: But what what why it's ultimately a failure. Failure X

1042
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: Ryan is because they didn't build off that. That was

1043
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: the end. Essentially the Rex Ryan eras the success and

1044
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: even to the point downstairs, Greg, you were watching on

1045
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 1: our network they had like a whole collage of different

1046
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: Patriots Jets through the years, and I just didn't need

1047
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: to see it because I've seen it all. And now

1048
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: it's become depressing because you know, at a certain point

1049
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: it just became about the butt fumble and and Jets

1050
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: struggling and they're not being a rivalry. So this game

1051
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: is what it is. It's great that game really helped

1052
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: turner the Patriots season round. I know there were four

1053
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: and two, but people forget the Jets had the ball

1054
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: for forty minutes in that game against the Patriots, and

1055
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: they did have a kick at the buzzer that would

1056
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: have won the game for them, but it was a

1057
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: very long kick and it and it got blocked. But

1058
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it was a competitive game where they

1059
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: even had that chance. And then the week after that

1060
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: was when the Patriots started their big time run of

1061
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: just blowing teams away. We all have the Patriots West Anything.

1062
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: Patriots are gonna go into New Jersey and pound these chumps.

1063
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: They're not even gonna fight you on it. Moving on,

1064
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs head to Pittsburgh the face of Steelers.

1065
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: Huge game for both teams. The Steelers seemed to have

1066
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: really hit their stride the last couple of weeks. They're

1067
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: now nine and five, Chiefs hanging around to the picture

1068
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: at eight and six. But this would be the end.

1069
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 1: You would think for them if they don't pull off

1070
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: the upset on the road. I think this is a

1071
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: situation west where we have two teams trending in opposite

1072
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: directions and the outcome seems obvious, right. I don't know

1073
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: if it's that obvious. I do agree that they're trending

1074
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: in opposite directions. For me, I go into game rewun

1075
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: and the Steelers are usually the first team I look

1076
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: at because I find them exciting. That the Chiefs are

1077
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: the last team because they're exceedingly boring. And I don't know,

1078
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: I don't see how the I just Antonio Brown has

1079
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: more yards, receptions, and touchdowns in the whole Chiefs wide

1080
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: receiver corput together. They're playing nineteen seventy three football. If

1081
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 1: this game were flipped into we're in Kansas City, I'd

1082
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: be very tempted would take the Chiefs in Kansas City.

1083
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: I just think Pittsburgh still hasn't won me over as

1084
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: a team that I week to week, I keep picking them,

1085
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: and I've gotten burned over and over their offenses right

1086
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: where you think they should be. I mean, Levan Bell

1087
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: is something. There are many running backs that he makes

1088
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: someone miss or he makes a play like every time

1089
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 1: he touches, he's over was the over two thousands were

1090
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: two thousand yards on scrimmage. If Murray isn't healthy, he

1091
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: can pass Murray. He's right there with with Murray. I

1092
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: can't remember anything like it where it's like every player

1093
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: DP candidates as hes been said, I think he's better

1094
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: than Murray. Oh yeah, I agree. And Ben Roethlisberg has

1095
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 1: had a couple of clean games in a row. They've

1096
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: I like how aggressive they are throwing the ball. They

1097
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 1: know what their strengths are. Last last week, they did

1098
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: not try to run the ball late. They just they

1099
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: just threw to win. And Antonio Brown, lest you mentioned,

1100
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: his numbers are amazing. They still have two games to play.

1101
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 1: He's one fifteen. I think he had one fifteen last year. Also,

1102
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: he has a hundred and fifteen catches for four nine

1103
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 1: yards and eleven touchdowns. That's funny numbers. And he makes

1104
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 1: less money than Dwayne bow who has zero touched him. Insane.

1105
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 1: But if you want to really get Pittsburgh on their heels,

1106
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: you get a quarterback in an offense that can throw

1107
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 1: the ball, because they'll be seen that that's their weakness

1108
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: many times. Well this that ain't the Chiefs. But you

1109
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: also could see Charles have a hundred forty yards and

1110
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: Nile Davis have seventy five yards something like that, and

1111
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: this be a competitive game, we'll see. There's only one

1112
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: way to find out, Mark, and it's gonna have The

1113
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers lost to the Bills last week, so

1114
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: I assume is gonna be uh and part of my

1115
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: French TV a piste off Packers team going into Tampa

1116
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 1: to play the Bucks. I'm gonna say it again, the

1117
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,439
Speaker 1: Packers gonna drop a bomb on the Bucks. I think

1118
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: we're talking five touchdowns for Aaron Rodgers and he Lacey

1119
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: is gonna go over a hundred total yards in a

1120
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: touch forty two to ten, and the Bucks are coasting

1121
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: towards the number one overall pick. What else do we

1122
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: have to say about this game? No Jerald McCoy, no Champs, No,

1123
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: even if they had Jeral McCoy. What do you think

1124
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: happened to Aaron Rodgers last week? Other than okay, of

1125
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: course the Bills are good. But it's like everything that

1126
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: could go wrong went wrong. It started with bag chemistry

1127
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: from the beginning, and I heard McCarthy talk about this.

1128
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: You could see that he and his receivers weren't on

1129
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: the same page and on back shoulder throws, especially the

1130
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: receiver broke the other way that Rogers did not expect

1131
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: him to go. And it was the two It could

1132
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: have been a blowout. They had the punt return touchdown

1133
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 1: the Bills did. And then the two plays the one

1134
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: where Rodgers didn't see Nelson open because he was going

1135
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: through his progressions and saw Randall Cobb wide open, so

1136
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: he never saw Nelson on a play that could have

1137
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: gone for a seventy yard touchdown, and then the drop

1138
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: that could have been a ninety four yard touchdown. Three plays,

1139
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 1: it could have been a blowout. I just don't see

1140
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,919
Speaker 1: what the what the Bucks can create at this point

1141
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: to do what the Bills did on any level from

1142
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: a defensive side to and Rogers hasn't lost back to

1143
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: back games in four plus years. If the Bucks on

1144
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 1: this game would be the biggest upset of the year

1145
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 1: by far. The last few year the New York Giants

1146
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: had to St. Louis to face the Rams in a

1147
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:55,240
Speaker 1: battle of two Also rans, Ah, that's it, Ah, digging

1148
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 1: deeper on your intro. I'd love to see. I think

1149
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: the Rams have an interesting secondary, and Odell Beckham up

1150
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,919
Speaker 1: against that defense will be interesting. Right. Yeah, We've said

1151
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: the Rams are the best losing team in the league

1152
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: for a while, and then they didn't show up against Arizona.

1153
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: New York has played a little better lately, a couple

1154
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: of wins. It doesn't matter. Eli looking okay, Beckham looking

1155
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: all right. Kevin Patrick's got another hero pick on this one,

1156
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: and it does strike me as close to a coin

1157
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: flip game. He picked the Giants. I really want the

1158
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: Giants just for Odell Beckham's sake, But I feel like

1159
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: he doesn't know. It's like, well, in the stable boys

1160
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: they talked were Twitter friends, Odell Beckham and Richard Sherman,

1161
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: and you are Twitter friends. He he tweeted at you

1162
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 1: this week. He said thank you and he started following you. Yeah,

1163
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman and I r type. He doesn't know that

1164
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: I don't like him. He does know. Well, if you

1165
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: look at this game, they're the Rams. I mean they

1166
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: kind of got clowned last week, they got beat but

1167
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: better team at Bruce Arians called him out, and I

1168
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: think they're probably not gonna be too thrilled about that.

1169
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: It's fair well and they'll respond like a good seven

1170
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: and nine team should. It's true. They play Seattle next week,

1171
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: I believe, and they're not gonna win that game. And

1172
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: it is one of Chris's immutable football laws that the

1173
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: Rams have to go seven to nine every year, so

1174
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: that means they win this game they lose to the Seahawks.

1175
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: That reminds me I need to make up my immutable

1176
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: football laws. Bengals will lose the first round of the

1177
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: playoffs and the Rams will go seven and nine. By

1178
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: the way, nobody would care what the Titans do. No never,

1179
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,919
Speaker 1: we don't even know who they are. Uh I wrote

1180
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: something last night about potential landing spots for Jay Cutler,

1181
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: and the Rams to me really jumped out as a

1182
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: team that made sense, a team that that was right

1183
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: on the cusp of maybe being a player in the conference.

1184
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: And they just need stability a quarterback. And I know

1185
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: Jay Cutler is not a great player, but he's an

1186
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: upgrade to me over a gimpy Sam Bradford and anything

1187
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: else they have, Well that makes some sense, you think.

1188
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,479
Speaker 1: The more I thought about this, the more I thought

1189
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: the Rams should be the favorites, because I think the

1190
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: Titans are the favorites now to get the number one seed,

1191
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: they'll at Mariota. And as much as Cutler wants to

1192
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: go to Tennessee, I don't think the Titans feel the

1193
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: same way about him. Tampa Bay is out because I

1194
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: want I researched that he and love he didn't really

1195
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: get along. So I think those are your first two

1196
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 1: choices right out the window. And I think Jeff Fisher

1197
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: wanted to draft Cutler out of college, and I believe

1198
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: Norm Chow wanted Liner and total Chow move. Bud Adams

1199
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: wanted Vince Young, the owner wanted Vince Young. But Fisher's

1200
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: great friends with Shanahan, who drafted Cutler, and it's still

1201
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: a fan of him, if you know what I'm seeing.

1202
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: We had a podcast by they sorry to cut off.

1203
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 1: If we had a podcast back and through that in

1204
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: six we would have been talking up Norm Chow like

1205
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: you was, Chiff Kelly. Everyone was really excited to have

1206
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: a whole segment chowing down you. Everyone was really excited

1207
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: for the Norm Chow to the NFL era and then

1208
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: it kind of just went away. Sorry, March. Now I'm

1209
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: desperately dreading what I already see, which is an entire

1210
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: spring in summer of us talking about some team that

1211
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: got Cutler. In the hype around it, we're already starting

1212
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: to look at Cutler as a guy that's gonna save

1213
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: some team from mediocrity reach it. By week five, we're

1214
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: gonna realize he's just wasn't I'm not buying next year,

1215
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: it wasn't our podcast to pick Jay Cutler to win

1216
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: m v P. Now, I don't think we'll buy in

1217
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: on that he's gonna plus Jet Jets fans are gonna

1218
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: be Jets fans might feel that way when they get Cutler,

1219
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: but we're not going to feel that way. They won't.

1220
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: I think look at the trail of coaches he's left

1221
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: in his wake, Shanahan, McDaniels, Ron Turner, Let's see who else,

1222
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: Mike Heart, Mike, Mike Tys who, let's not forget by

1223
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: the time Mike Tyson left the Bears, he needed a

1224
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: liaison to talk to Jay Cutler. They couldn't even speak

1225
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: to each other. It's gonna take seem like a fun guy.

1226
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: It's gonna take a coach who really believes in Jake Cutler,

1227
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: and I think they're few and far between around the

1228
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: NFL anymore. D D. Can you get on the horn

1229
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: with Norm Chow's representatives. I'm sure he's available and pitch

1230
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: chowing down with Norm as a segment on our podcast. Alright, alright, alright,

1231
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: I like McConaughey working Land to the drops. All right,

1232
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: that's it for Thursday's edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. West,

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01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:07,959
Speaker 1: I would I just want to thank all the people

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01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: who sent me nice messages on Twitter for the Reggie

1235
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: Wayne discussion. Alright, West, say thank you the mail bag

1236
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 1: question music to fall in Love too? I started the

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01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: playlist on Spotify the Around the League Podcast music to

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01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: fall in Love? Now you just need to fall in love?

1239
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that's the next that's the next step,

1240
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: and that is the season assignment for the entire crew

1241
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: and behind the Glass. Fine, West a wife. We'll be

1242
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: back on Sunday to go over all the games, all

1243
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: the Sunday games as we inch closer to the end

1244
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: of the regular season, so make sure you tune in

1245
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: for that. Thank you as always for listening. This is

1246
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: Dan hands As signing off for Quiet Storm, The Mailman,

1247
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: The Boss and t D Behind the Glass until Sunday.

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01:01:52,440 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: M hm mm hmmm, m m m hmmm mm hmmm mmm.

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Speaker 1: You're that it's awesome. Uh, maybe that's a show. Oh yeah,

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01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: all right, out right, out right m hm