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Speaker 2: We're gonna do quite a list here to open up

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Speaker 2: hour number two, some names you might recognize, and a

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Speaker 2: talking point about what that actually means. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: it in just a minute. It is indeed, Two Pros

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Speaker 2: and a Cup of Joe. They're out today. Brian Knows

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Speaker 2: with me. I'm Jason Martin, our number two of the program.

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Speaker 2: Glad to have you with us. All right, be a

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Speaker 2: lot of football on this show, because well football is coming,

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Speaker 2: which means we have something to talk about. We have

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Speaker 2: a lot to talk about. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how your summer has gone. I don't

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Speaker 2: know how what sports have had your attention. Have been

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Speaker 2: watching baseball? What have you been watching this summer? Anything

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Speaker 2: new compel you? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I watch a little baseball. I watch WNBA all the

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Speaker 4: freaking time. J Mark all the time.

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Speaker 2: I love to man, I watch it. Get I didn't

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Speaker 2: know you're into it too, that's great, dvring it left,

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Speaker 2: right and center.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I was watching last night. But I was

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Speaker 4: watching let me think a bunch of games. I was

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Speaker 4: watching the Sky and the Sun. I was watching the Storm.

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Speaker 4: I thought the Storm it was the right side. I

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Speaker 4: hit up Jeff Schwartz, you know, we do a show

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Speaker 4: on Sundays, and I was like, it's a little risky.

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Speaker 4: You know, Storm have lost five in a row. The

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Speaker 4: the Dream have won five in a row. But I

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Speaker 4: laid out my reasoning and it was dead wrong. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I've liked it a lot.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: We saw the Aces meet the Liberty, a pretty good

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Speaker 4: game one by six. I'm all over it, man, I'm

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Speaker 4: watching games left and right.

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Speaker 2: Wait a second, I got I gotta ask now. But

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Speaker 2: we being sarcastic here, No, We're we talking legit here.

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Speaker 4: I watch it all the time, all the time.

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Speaker 2: I'm okay, all right. I was being sarcastic about it.

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Speaker 2: Just said I've put that out and put that out.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 4: It got to a point where you're like, wait a minute,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I was like, wait, he's selling this awfully

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Speaker 4: No, I do I watch I've got the oh man,

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Speaker 4: the league pass on YouTube is the worst freaking thing

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Speaker 4: I've ever bought in my life. I don't know what

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Speaker 4: it is, bought WNBA League Pass I have. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 4: only like thirteen bucks a month or something like that.

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Speaker 4: But if I'm on my phone or my tablet, almost

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Speaker 4: just crash, and then I try to put it back

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Speaker 4: on and it'll crash and you got to exit. It's

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Speaker 4: a night mayor.

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Speaker 2: Dude.

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Speaker 4: It's terrible. I don't know why. I don't know why.

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Speaker 4: It's that it's YouTube, right, Like, everything I've had on

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Speaker 4: YouTube is good. Not the WNBA package. It is awful. Man,

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Speaker 4: It's bad. It crashes constantly.

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Speaker 2: Wow. I still am like trying to make sure you're

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Speaker 2: not being sarcastic, but you you've now sold it to

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Speaker 4: No, it is absolutely I watch games all the time.

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Speaker 2: Wow, did you expect that coming into this year?

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Speaker 4: No, it really it's because of Caitlin. That's when I

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Speaker 4: started watching the WNBA. And then you know, I for countdown,

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Speaker 4: like we'll make picks, you know, I'll bet on the WNBA.

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Speaker 4: So I've just paid attention this whole time, basically because

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Speaker 2: Wow. Well I mean good, I mean I guess good.

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Speaker 2: It's given you something to care about. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Other than you know, I'll watch baseball here and there,

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Speaker 2: This has been the summer or the year of f

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Speaker 4: Oh really, okay, I've gotten into that.

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Speaker 2: One big time. I just like made a decision at

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Speaker 2: like it's become kind of my thing, and it's it's

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Speaker 2: But I've absolutely loved it. It's gotten me. It's going

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Speaker 2: everything else. So it's just you know, interesting, you're watching WNBA,

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Speaker 4: That's cool, man. And you know you don't turn the

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Speaker 4: That's just how you're wired. So I guarantee you're watching

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Speaker 4: thoughts as if whatever that's gonna lead the second hour

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Speaker 4: like wait a minute, I'm not gonna talk about it

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Speaker 4: watch it and enjoy it. Sure, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's right. I've got another friend who has worked with

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Speaker 2: one another? Okay, Jameis Winston, Jared Goff, Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray, Yep,

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence, Bryce Young, Caleb Williams, and Cam Ward.

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Speaker 4: They're all number one overall picks.

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Speaker 2: Yep since twenty fifteen outside of Burrow and then I

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Speaker 2: guess I would say probably Jared Goff. How many of

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Speaker 2: those names have become true number one pick material. You

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Speaker 2: the reason I'm talking about is because of Caleb, Because

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Speaker 2: Kyle Brandt of the NFL Network, I guess that's now

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Speaker 2: he es me. I don't know at this point in time.

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Speaker 2: because I definitely have takes.

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Speaker 4: But he's on NFL network Red zone I think.

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Speaker 2: Is yeah, whatever, don't touch red zone polices, Please don't

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Speaker 2: ruin it. He said that year two for a quarterback

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Speaker 2: is now the new year five, and there's a lot

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Speaker 2: or it's like cutbait with this guy and let's go

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Speaker 2: get somebody else. And we've seen that. But you look

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence is what he is at this point in time,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Is Liam Cohen gonna unlock Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 2: the way that people thought when he was coming out

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Speaker 2: about playing Call of Duty, or you know, all of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think what's interesting is if you go back

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Speaker 4: depends on what you're specifically talking about, at least in

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Speaker 4: You know, certainly for Caleb Williams, you look at what

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Speaker 4: hays weapons all around to throw to. If you look

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Speaker 4: I buy that when he's surrounded by top ten picks.

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Speaker 4: second rounder. Cole Kamed is still there the other tight end,

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Speaker 4: he's a second rounder. You've got plenty of talent to

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Speaker 4: five in terms of production, I think that's a different

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Speaker 4: argument because even though the expectations might be like year

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Speaker 4: And if you look at a couple of quarterbacks that

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Speaker 4: what I mean. Like Baker Mayfield is a good example

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Speaker 4: look at his year one, two, three, four number they're hideous.

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Speaker 4: And last year with Minnesota he revived his career. Also

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Speaker 4: the final two games. But the point is, yeah, I

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't buy that the production like year two is

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Speaker 2: in for the guys this morning, Brian, the Kingdom is coming.

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Speaker 2: This documentary about the Chief's quest for a three p

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Speaker 3: I do?

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Speaker 4: It's unfortunate. But the Chiefs fatigue is real to the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and of course you got you've got Taylor Swift

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Speaker 4: you weren't excited whatsoever, you would be able to tell

432
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 4: It's like, man, she just doesn't want to be there.

433
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 4: And I've never felt that way, and I thought it

434
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 4: came across as much more genuine than anything staged or

435
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 4: anything like that. I just think they dig each other,

436
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 4: and if you really dig your partner, you're going to

437
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 4: be open minded toward what they're most passionate about. And

438
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 4: Travis Kelsey is certainly passionate about football, she's passionate about music.

439
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 4: He was supporting her, he went on tour a little bit,

440
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 4: did his whole thing, got on stage once. So I

441
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 4: just think that sometimes we look at famous relationships as

442
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 4: if they're different than you know, Joe Blow and Jane Blow,

443
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 4: and it's the same dynamics. It's just it's a different

444
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 4: tax bracket and different world that they have access to,

445
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 4: but the dynamics of a relationship are the exact same.

446
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. I mean I think there is there are,

447
00:22:55,080 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 2: like the partnerships of convenience and partnership of promotion and

448
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 2: things of that nature that we know do exist as well,

449
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 2: but it is good to recognize that it's not always that.

450
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 2: And the reason why I buy Taylor Swift in the

451
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 2: same way you do in this case is because she's

452
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 2: not a particularly compelling actress and it's very easy to

453
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 2: spot when she's faking it. Like I've seen this throughout

454
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,199
Speaker 2: her career, especially, she's gotten more and more famous. Like

455
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 2: you can see when she's just doing a thing to

456
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 2: do a thing, like it's very very obvious, and that's

457
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: not kind of the impression here. I also think she

458
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: could have gotten away with not being at half the

459
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: games she's been at Ian Taylor Swift, she's got this

460
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 2: going on, she has disappearance. She's not gonna be able

461
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 2: to make it this time, but she's been there for

462
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: I don't know how many probably over seventy five percent.

463
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 4: It's been a lot.

464
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a lot more than I would have expected

465
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: if this and especially if this were just some kind

466
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 2: of arranged thing. I just at this, I don't know

467
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 2: that it's benefiting. Like Travis has already become Travis, and

468
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 2: then you've got Taylor being Taylor. I don't know that

469
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,719
Speaker 2: they need each other anymore from that standpoint, right, So

470
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 2: this still being real actually gives me hope that it

471
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 2: is indeed real and there's gonna be good for both

472
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 2: of them, and I'm happy about that.

473
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I hear you, man. I think that they've

474
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 4: got a shot. They've got a shot to you know,

475
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 4: be a real couple. I don't know if they're thinking

476
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 4: about getting married or anything like that. That's the one

477
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 4: thing I wonder about, Like, look, man, you know how

478
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 4: it goes j mart. These females they have like gristwatches

479
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 4: that are ticking very very loudly, and it's.

480
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 2: Just like.

481
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 4: Three years away. Hulloaen No. But I'm saying most relationships,

482
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 4: they want to know where is this heading? Where is

483
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 4: it ending up?

484
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 2: You know?

485
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 4: And that's what I wonder with Taylor Swift. She has

486
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 4: the entire world in her hand, and if she wants

487
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 4: marriage to be a thing, I would imagine that she's

488
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 4: either hinting strongly or you know, I don't know how

489
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 4: she's handling it, but that's the one thing with She

490
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,239
Speaker 4: has access to everything. But if she wants to have

491
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 4: a husband, she doesn't have one yet, So I wonder

492
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 4: how that's going, how that's playing out, you know.

493
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 2: Well, the only thing I would say is her entire

494
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 2: brand has been built around things ending, not things continuing,

495
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 2: Like most of that's that's the thing. Like her whole

496
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 2: like album after album are about how this guy has

497
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: wronged her or how she's moved on from this and

498
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 2: all this, and and even the people that she surrounded

499
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: herself with and sort of some of those storylines have

500
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 2: always been centered there, so this would be a complete

501
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 2: break from that. And if she did indeed do that,

502
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 2: I would actually like to see her her music start

503
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 2: to reflect it a little bit differently, because even though

504
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 2: I didn't get deep into the world of the whatever

505
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: Tortured Poets Society or whatever it was called a year ago,

506
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 2: pretty sure that was not a love letter kind of album.

507
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 2: Pretty sure it was the exact opposite as a matter

508
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 2: of fact, Like, maybe it's time to grow up with

509
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 2: actually what you're saying in your music as well, because

510
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 2: the brand doesn't fit this version of Taylor Swift that

511
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: you're getting on a podcast which with Travis Kelce, like

512
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: it doesn't like stop playing the character then and grow

513
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 2: up and be a woman at this point.

514
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting I think that. Look, man, you could

515
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 4: say that in a lot of forms of music where

516
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 4: whatever it's the dark metal band and all of a sudden,

517
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 4: you know, like two of the members find love, they

518
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 4: have a daughter, you know, they get off drugs, like well,

519
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 4: any number of things, and it can greatly affect their

520
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 4: music and their whole approach to it. The vibe is different. Like,

521
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 4: so as you mature, as you grow older, things can

522
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 4: change a lot in your music. But I think Taylor

523
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 4: Swift's talented enough even if her life changed dramatically, I

524
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 4: don't think that her music necessarily is destined to fall off.

525
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 4: The material might be a whole lot different, the vibe

526
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 4: could be a whole lot different, but I think she

527
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 4: could still be successful. She has so many freaking fans, man,

528
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 4: I don't think they'd be like, what the hell love

529
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 4: things are working out? This isn't the Taylor I know.

530
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 4: I think it would be fine.

531
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, so many women, so many girls seem

532
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: to look up to her. Now that I've got two daughters,

533
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 2: I'm just like, man, I wish she was making music

534
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: that I would feel good about my daughters listening to

535
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 2: when it came to the messages that we're coming from.

536
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 2: And look, this is not a critique of I mean,

537
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 2: she's obviously been successful doing what she's doing. But I

538
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 2: do look at that and it's just like, you know,

539
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: this could actually be a Taylor Swift. You could look

540
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: up to the one that actually finds, you know, finds

541
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,959
Speaker 2: a husband, and that becomes kind of the next stage

542
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 2: of her life. Because she's already done some of these

543
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: other things, but you know, she's still relatively young and

544
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: there's still a lot of her career left. And I

545
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: wasn't expecting to do the Taylor Swift. I was literally

546
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 2: just gonna mention that Chief's documentary and then get into

547
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 2: what we teased about some of the quarterbacks, and then

548
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 2: we ended up doing Taylor Swift for ten minutes.

549
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 4: So there, he's that massive Jay Mark. That's the way

550
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 4: it works with t Swift.

551
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 2: She takes over, So cam Ward says shifting gears. Cam Ward,

552
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 2: the number one pick of the Tennessee Titans, right here

553
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: in Nashville where I do the show from it, says

554
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 2: that he believes that the Titans can be a top

555
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 2: ten offense this season. I know that there's been a

556
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 2: lot of talk that he's had excellent chemistry with Calvin Ridley,

557
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: and this is year two. He's got he's got an

558
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 2: offensive line coach and Bill Callahan that certainly knows what

559
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: he's doing. I don't. I don't know if the head

560
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 2: coach is going to be a long term fix. Who knows,

561
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 2: But you know, I felt I felt the cam Ward

562
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: pick was I don't know what the ceiling is, but

563
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: I didn't think the floor was, you know, the core

564
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: of the earth. Basically, Like, I feel like he's probably

565
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 2: going to be serviceable to pretty good at least just

566
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: because he had he had good fundamentals and things of

567
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 2: that nature. Now, all the talk has been about should

568
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 2: do or yes? But how are you feeling, Brian about

569
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: some of these other guys? When you look at Jackson Dart,

570
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: who's gonna get a little bit of time, You would

571
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: think that's why you bring in a Russell Wilson to

572
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 2: kind of give you give him a little bit of time.

573
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: But you look at all these guys that were drafted,

574
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: even though it doesn't have the same name recognition and

575
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: the same pizazz that a year ago did with Caleb

576
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: and Jayden Daniels and Boenix and Michael Pennix and all

577
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: those guys. How are you feeling about this rookie this

578
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 2: rookie crop and who are you who are you buying

579
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: into right now?

580
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 4: I think I think Jackson Dart could have some success

581
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,719
Speaker 4: in the NFL. I think it's possible. I think it's

582
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 4: gonna take some time for him to get on the field.

583
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 4: I don't know. We were talking about this, how many

584
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 4: if you take the if it was two and a

585
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 4: half starts this season, would you bet the over or

586
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 4: under with Jackson Dart? I would bet the over. I

587
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 4: think that he's gonna be over there. But I think

588
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 4: they're gonna start Russell Wilson at least the first core

589
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 4: of the season, maybe the first half of the season,

590
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 4: and then they give Jackson Dart some more reps right there.

591
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 4: The thing with cam Ward, it's amazing to me.

592
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 2: This is a.

593
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 4: Number one overall pick. Yeah, and nationally speaking, it's as

594
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 4: close to a non story as you can get. I

595
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 4: don't think we've ever had this in NFL history, j Mart,

596
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:27,239
Speaker 4: where the number one overall quarterback who's the number one

597
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 4: overall pick is basically a non story. And a guy

598
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 4: like Shadur who's much more talented than a fifth round pick,

599
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 4: but he's still a fifth rounder and he's buried on

600
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 4: the depth chart right now, and Shaduur is a way

601
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 4: bigger story than cam Ward. I don't think you could

602
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 4: point to any year in NFL history where that's been

603
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 4: the case.

604
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'm looking back now, all the way back

605
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 2: to nineteen ninety quarterbacks drapped at number one. Overall, you

606
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 2: had Jeff George Drew Bloodshoe, and then you had kind

607
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 2: of a up off there for a few years, and

608
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: you got Peyton Manning in ninety eight, Tim Couch in

609
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: ninety nine, then Michael Vick, David Carr, Carson Palmer, Eli,

610
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 2: Alex Smith, JaMarcus Russell, Matthew Stafford, Sam Bradford, cam Andrew

611
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: Luck and then the group that we talked about in

612
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 2: a earlier this hour was starting with Jamison coming up

613
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: through cam Ward. I think there is one thing about

614
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: the cam Ward thing is he's just not done or

615
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: said anything that is going to create news. I mean,

616
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 2: I think he's just all the talk around Nashville that

617
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: I know of, though I don't consume like local media

618
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: is just most people are pretty high on it. You

619
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 2: think he's probably going to be pretty good, but he's

620
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: not doing anything to stand out yet. But he's also

621
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: not creating controversy in any way. Like that's where Shadoor

622
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: comes in. Is Shadour his box office because of his dad,

623
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,479
Speaker 2: because of what happened in the pre draft process and

624
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 2: all those things. Everything is under this gigantic microscope. And

625
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 2: of course Tennessee is just not a team that most

626
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: people care about, and even like Bryce Young. A couple

627
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: of years ago, Bryce Young was coming off the Heisman Trophy,

628
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 2: he was coming from Alabama, and then he wasn't good,

629
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: and so that became the story. If Bryce Young had

630
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 2: been pretty good, I still don't know how much we

631
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: would have heard, because Caroline is another one of those

632
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: teams that just kind of exists and you, oh, yeah,

633
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: they're still a football team. But like cam Ward, Kim

634
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: Ward's been pretty good, and you've heard in practice he's

635
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: been decent. He's had a couple bad days, a couple

636
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: of good days, but nothing particularly interesting enough that's going

637
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,959
Speaker 2: to take the national attention. I don't know that it's

638
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 2: a knock on Ward as much as it is. He's

639
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 2: been solid enough to not stand out like he's the

640
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: official that you don't know his name because he hasn't

641
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: made a bad call.

642
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not a knock on cam Ward. Really. If

643
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 4: I'm the Tennessee Titans, I'm not like, hey, cam can

644
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 4: you just say something outlandish so we can get a

645
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 4: few more headlines, a few more segments on sports radio.

646
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter. So I like if I'm the Titans.

648
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Speaker 4: I'm totally fine with not being the hot story or

649
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Speaker 4: I like cam Ward's approach. It's not a knock on him.

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Speaker 4: He's just he's not a big talking point right now.

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Speaker 4: I think, listen, that's way aggressive talking about the Titans

652
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Speaker 4: being a top ten offense scoring offense. They were twenty

653
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Speaker 4: seventh last season. They averaged a tick over eighteen points

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Speaker 4: a game, So to go from that to a top

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Speaker 4: ten offense. I don't like saying no chance, they have

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Speaker 4: zero chance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's the quarterback. He's not gonna say, well,

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Speaker 2: I hope we're top twenty five in offense. Like yes,

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Speaker 2: I think he's got to sound confident. Even though I

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Speaker 2: agree with you, I think it's a it's definitely thinking

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Speaker 2: for this guys. When we come back, we'll talk about

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Speaker 2: guys that are improve at years at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 2: talking Heads, bring this back. Be you a big Talking

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Speaker 4: Can't say big, but I don't mind them.

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Speaker 2: I like them, you do. I've always been a big

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Speaker 2: fan of theirs. There you go. The only thing about

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Speaker 4: This one's about food.

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Speaker 2: Go about you like, Look it's about food or buildings.

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Speaker 2: It's like food or structures. Okay, it's kind of strange. Huh,

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Speaker 2: they're topics. But I've always liked David Byrne's music. I've

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Speaker 2: enjoyed talking heads for a long time. And hey, that's

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Speaker 2: what we are. We are taught heads, disembodied voices. When

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Speaker 2: it comes to the radio industry, guys that do more

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Speaker 2: than talk, well, those are the players that we watch

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Speaker 2: and we talk about. We're gonna talk about some quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: here in just a minute. That maybe it's proven time

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Speaker 2: for a few of these guys. We're gonna give you

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Speaker 2: a list of some of the guys we're thinking this

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Speaker 2: might be the year to make or break what they're

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Speaker 2: gonna be in the future. But a guy that we

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Speaker 2: it probably has a little bit more time than that

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Speaker 2: is a rookie. Let's get to this week's Express pros

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Speaker 2: put touchdown Cayden Davis.

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Speaker 3: And Sudor Sanders has his first career NFL touchdown.

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Speaker 2: That was your Express Pros Pro the Week courtesy seven

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Speaker 2: hundred WLW. That's the Browns Radio Network. Cayden Davis, that

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Speaker 2: was Sudor Sanders first. I don't know if I can

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Speaker 2: call it a first NFL touchdown, right, Yeah, dude did

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Speaker 2: a seventy yard field goal, right.

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Speaker 4: I was thinking the same thing. We can't count that, so, yeah, that.

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Speaker 2: Was I said that. I said that to Aaron Torres

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Speaker 2: last week. Bryan, I'm glad you're on the same wave

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Speaker 2: with the me. If I can't count the seventy yard

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Speaker 2: field goal, then I can't say that's his first NFL

710
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Speaker 2: touchdown either, because it means that all these things don't matter,

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Speaker 2: like he has to do this in the regular season

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Speaker 2: for that to be a touchdown. So you're with me

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Speaker 2: on that.

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Speaker 4: I'm with you on it's sort of like what do

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Speaker 4: we have the NBA Cup, you know, like one like

716
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Speaker 4: the championship game. It happens like those shots went in,

717
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Speaker 4: those shots didn't go in, but none of the stats count.

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Speaker 4: So it's kind of what I saw the two touchdown passes.

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Speaker 4: It happened, what should do her, But statistically it's as

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Speaker 4: if it never did happen because.

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Speaker 2: It's preth I saw, like Jackson Dart first NFL touchdown?

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Speaker 2: No man, no. Also, if I'm Jackson Dart, I don't

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Speaker 2: want that to be my first NFL touchdown like this

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Speaker 2: is this is yeah, we we can't count this. Yes

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Speaker 2: it occurred, and we saw it with our eyes. But

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Speaker 2: if we're not gonna if we're gonna say that's the

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Speaker 2: first touchdown, then we also have a new record holder

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Speaker 2: for longest field goal, and I don't think anybody is

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Speaker 2: going there. I also real quickly, well let me do

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Speaker 2: Go to expresspros dot com. Okay, so if you hit

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Speaker 2: a seventy yard field goal in preseason, you got to

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Speaker 2: give that guy a chance in the regular season to

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Speaker 2: do that, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, especially if it's before the half. Why wouldn't right, right, Like,

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Speaker 4: instead of trying this, you know, hail Mary, unless you

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Speaker 4: can sling at seventy five yards, Yeah, try them out there,

741
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Speaker 4: try a seventy yard or for sure, especially.

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Speaker 2: If you're in the right stadium, like if you happen

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Speaker 2: to be against my Broncos, oh yeah, and Denver, you

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Speaker 2: definitely do it. But if he can hit a seventy, like,

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Speaker 2: I've got to give him the opportunity to do it

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Speaker 2: when everybody will agree it can.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, you're in Detroit, you're in a dome or

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Speaker 4: what have you like, Yeah, he was in Jacksonville. That's

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Speaker 4: the other part that blows right my mind. It wasn't

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Speaker 4: this controlled indoor environment or if you said, what's your

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Speaker 4: best chance to hit a seventy yard er? No one

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Speaker 4: is like, oh Jacksonville, Absolutely, it's Denver. What you mentioned

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Speaker 4: I could name five ten other stadiums before I got

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Speaker 4: to Jacksonville and he still made it.

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Speaker 2: Would that mean if he hits a seventy yard field, Goald,

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Speaker 2: does that become the most famous thing that's ever happened

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Speaker 2: in the Jaguars franchise? Oh?

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Speaker 4: Man, I maybe it's I flashed back to Natron means,

759
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Speaker 4: you know, like I want to dis Fred Taylor, but

760
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Speaker 4: Leonard Fournette beating the Steelers on the road, you know,

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Speaker 4: But I mean that's one of them that's on the

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Speaker 4: short list. That's a sad thing, man, when that's.

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Speaker 2: Like the most the most the most noteworthy thing for

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Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars to me, like historically has been when

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Speaker 2: they almost made the Super Bowl that year, Like oh

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Speaker 2: with Mark Brunell. Oh Brunell, Yeah that year too, as

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Speaker 2: a matter of fact. So like there's a couple there.

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Speaker 2: But like the things you most remember about the Jags

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Speaker 2: is like Urban Meyer and some of those things. It's

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Speaker 2: not as much the other stuff. Their history is not

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Speaker 2: particularly deep, I guess that's what I'm saying. So there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of room to create history.

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Speaker 4: I would say, yeah, And that's the thing, man, I'd

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Speaker 4: have to go back and get the exact stat, but

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Speaker 4: there is an just a gross stat in terms of

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Speaker 4: Jacksonville picking in the top ten, like I don't know,

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Speaker 4: fifteen of the last eighteen years. There's something insane like

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Speaker 4: that where it's like, wow, man, they've picked that high

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Speaker 4: that often it's like, yeah, they've been that bad for

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Speaker 4: that long. It's been a long haul of suckiness for Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: So so quickly anybody more than Trevor Lawrence in approve

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Speaker 2: it year in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: This year, man, he's up there. I think Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 4: just in terms of the eyeballs, the talent around him,

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Speaker 4: the backlash if he doesn't prove it, you know, he'd

786
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Speaker 4: be on the shortlist.

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Speaker 2: Also, Yeah, there's definitely some guys we can get as

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Speaker 2: deep into that as possible. We're gonna turn it back

789
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Speaker 2: over to b No and he will drive the ship

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Speaker 2: for the third hour of the show. I got no

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Speaker 2: idea where he's going. That always makes it fun. We'll

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Speaker 2: be right back