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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio Podcast.

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Speaker 2: This week special guest, We've got Sharna Burgess on. She

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Speaker 2: is obviously pro of Dancing with the Stars, She's got

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Speaker 2: a tour coming up with Dancing with the Stars Con

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Speaker 2: and she's lovely, so let's get her on. Sharna, thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for coming on. Of course, excited to

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Speaker 2: just chat all the things. Yeah, obviously you've got the

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Speaker 2: con coming up, but we want we want to talk

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Speaker 2: about that, but we still want to you know, we

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Speaker 2: got Sharna, so we got to ask any questions. Your

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Speaker 2: husband's been in the headlines a lot recently. I've been

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Speaker 2: seeing oh Hasie what?

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Speaker 3: I don't honestly look at them. What was it?

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Speaker 2: Now? The only reason I know that is because he

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Speaker 2: was on the I Do Part two and so he

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Speaker 2: was talking about you know, I actually really appreciate that

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Speaker 2: what he was saying was that he really from what

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Speaker 2: I saw the headline that it was basically, you know,

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Speaker 2: the first one was just kind of about attraction, but

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Speaker 2: with you, I feel like he was he's more mindful

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Speaker 2: about your need and then the more soul connection as

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Speaker 2: opposed to I mean, listen, you're stunning, so Obviously there

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Speaker 2: was attraction, like because.

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Speaker 4: Duh, like look at his humans are attracted. Do you

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Speaker 4: shine up female munning?

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Speaker 2: But like I do think it was a cool like

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Speaker 2: a cool way for a man to go Okay, it

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Speaker 2: wasn't just about like she's sexy, you know, it was

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Speaker 2: really about getting to know you and your heart. And

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Speaker 2: I think that's a beautiful thing for a man to

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Speaker 2: to talk about, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, and it is a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 1: He and I talked about that even through our relationship,

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Speaker 1: the growth of how you get into relationships, how you

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Speaker 1: make different choices, and how you learn how to date

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Speaker 1: a person, how to get to know a person, how

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Speaker 1: to see who someone is instead of what you project

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Speaker 1: them to be, Like all these different things you learn

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Speaker 1: over the course of your life and dating you guys know,

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Speaker 1: and trials and fails and successes with relationships.

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Speaker 3: So headlines can always.

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Speaker 1: Take the most explosive part and make it seem like

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Speaker 1: a thing.

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Speaker 3: And I get that it's click bait, it's whatever.

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Speaker 1: It's why I don't look at them because I know

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Speaker 1: my man, I know the intentions, and people are going

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Speaker 1: to read it the way they want to read it.

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Speaker 1: That resonates with them and their experiences, right. But for

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Speaker 1: Brian and I it was very much that was there

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Speaker 1: an initial attraction. Of course, who gets who's trying to

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Speaker 1: get to know a person in a romantic sense if

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Speaker 1: you're not physically attracted to the person. And it really

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Speaker 1: took me by surprise too, you know, for Brian and me,

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Speaker 1: I was instantly attracted to him, but I was like,

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Speaker 1: on paper, I don't know, like this is a lot.

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Speaker 1: You've got more babies than I thought, You're there's a lot.

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Speaker 1: But like that, then I thought that I would potentially

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Speaker 1: end up with in it. I knew at that age

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Speaker 1: who I was going to choose to date and may

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Speaker 1: have kids, but I didn't bank on there being four already.

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Speaker 3: But they're beautiful and amazing kids.

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Speaker 1: So there was an initial attraction, but then we decided

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Speaker 1: let's just take this slow. We didn't even kiss until

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Speaker 1: the fifth or sixth date because we made the choice

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Speaker 1: to just get to know each other. I had done

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Speaker 1: the dates where you physical attraction get into it. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, it's all about this and it's amazing and

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Speaker 1: it's explosive, and all those things happened. But later on

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Speaker 1: I knew who he was or had a greater idea

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Speaker 1: of who he was before we even started getting romantic

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Speaker 1: and physical. And that was I think, uh, the coolest

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Speaker 1: thing so for Brian and I, Yes we had that

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Speaker 1: initial attraction, but the goal was not I'm just looking

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Speaker 1: for someone i'm attracted to. The goal was I'm looking

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Speaker 1: for someone I can spend the rest of my life with.

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Speaker 1: I've put so much work into loving my life, you know.

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Speaker 2: And you were also on this like massive beautiful, like

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Speaker 2: you had a really I feel like you got into

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Speaker 2: a place just from an outsider standpoint where you're like,

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Speaker 2: I'm good being alone, Like I'm happy, I don't need X,

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Speaker 2: Y or Z. And I feel like that's always I

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Speaker 2: always tell women when they DMI, like that's when it

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Speaker 2: happens when like it was for me, it was like

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Speaker 2: and all of that.

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Speaker 1: All of that, girl, I had my plan, you know,

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Speaker 1: I was like, if I'm not with anyone, I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna have a baby at thirty eight.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm good. I love my life, I love my house.

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Speaker 1: I've got Duke and Daisy I love my tribe, my

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Speaker 3: Everything is beautiful.

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Speaker 1: So you're either going to fit into this life because

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Speaker 1: you're fit, not because I'm making you fit or projecting

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Speaker 1: you to be anything. So the goal was getting to

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Speaker 1: know each other. That is I think the point that

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Speaker 1: was missed in all of it, because people love using

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Speaker 1: explosive headlines when especially if Megan's name is involved in it,

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Speaker 1: which she was fifteen years of his life and is

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Speaker 1: a part of our lives because of these babies, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. There is no world where she's

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Speaker 1: not a part of our life in a beautiful sense.

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Speaker 1: But when Brian speaks about his past relationship experiences, everyone

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Speaker 1: instantly wants to make a meal out of it instead

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Speaker 1: of actually hearing what he's saying. As opposed to like

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Speaker 1: he learned, he learned to approach relationships differently. It's no

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Speaker 1: shade on anyone and who they are as a person.

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Speaker 1: He learned to find what worked for him, you know,

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Speaker 2: Had you ever dated someone with kids before? No, first time,

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Speaker 2: so that's yeah, So I always, you know, wonder about

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Speaker 2: that because we didn't have to deal with them. But

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Speaker 2: my ex was dating someone who had never dealt with,

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Speaker 2: you know, had been around kids. And obviously they're not

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Speaker 2: together anymore. But I always wonder like how, how And

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Speaker 2: I'm saying this for when that person does come in

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Speaker 2: and let's say they haven't because they're probably going to

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Speaker 2: be younger. No shade against him. I'm just saying, like

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Speaker 2: I'm older than him, he'll probably go younger. That's what

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Speaker 2: I mean by that. But how can I, as the

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Speaker 2: ex wife be a good like, how does how can

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Speaker 2: I support like someone in your position that just is

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Speaker 2: coming in like not having like being around kids kids

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Speaker 2: into like embracing you in that because it's like it's

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Speaker 2: not a natural thing to have another woman around.

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Speaker 1: Your kids, Right, Yeah, I think it's gosh For me,

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Speaker 1: I was so ready for kids and I'm a natural nurturer,

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Speaker 1: so I it was I've reached out to Megan, so

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Speaker 1: when I had just met the kids, and the universe

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Speaker 1: sort of orchestrated it.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: So I was at a girl's dinner at a catch

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Speaker 1: in LA and at the time, it was Megan and Colson.

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Speaker 1: They walked in and they were sitting at a table

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Speaker 1: my friends knowing who I'm dating, were like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: look who's walked in. And I didn't want to make

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Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But I felt like, okay, Universe,

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Speaker 1: like you're bringing out orbits closer and closer to each other,

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Speaker 1: so let's do this. And I got her number from

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Speaker 1: Brian and just text her and was like, hey, we

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Speaker 1: haven't met before. I am now around your kiddos. There

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Speaker 1: are amazing kids. If you ever want to know anything

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Speaker 1: about me, let's grab a coffee or a tea, can

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Speaker 1: get to know me, and you know, let's talk so

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Speaker 1: you can meet me basically whatever the rest of the

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Speaker 3: And I think she really appreciated that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's huge. If everybody can just listen to that,

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Speaker 2: because that is so great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, whatever is going on between the two of them,

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Speaker 1: it ain't your business, right, it's not your drama. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't your life. You weren't there in it. There's always

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Speaker 1: two sides to every story. Everyone has their experience. But

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Speaker 1: going to be the kids. So you're not going to

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Speaker 1: still holding on, like from both sides. They've had their experience,

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Speaker 1: you know, and again remembering that's not your experience. You

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Speaker 1: the priority is the kids.

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Speaker 3: And it is Listen, it's a really hard job.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot to take on being a step parent

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Speaker 1: and stepping in with other kids.

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Speaker 2: You have to walk a fine line. Like I remember

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Speaker 2: it's a tough line that you guys walk, and I do.

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Speaker 1: That I didn't really try and parent the kiddos. It

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Speaker 3: They're amazing kids and I'm really really lucky.

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Speaker 1: They love their little brother and we just Brian and

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Speaker 1: I have open communication about things sometimes where I feel

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Speaker 1: it's something I'm observing or seeing and then that's for

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Speaker 1: him to address, but it is. It's we take it

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Speaker 1: day by day and open communication on all fronts is

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Speaker 1: the greatest thing that you that you can have.

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Speaker 4: Take us back to when you guys start ding just

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Speaker 4: for a minute, because I think there's something really special

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Speaker 4: about the way you approached your dating with each other.

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Speaker 4: You know, we live in such like a hook up society.

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Speaker 4: I feel like it's and I feel like women of

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Speaker 2: Take me back to Bobby Bones's season because I remember

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Speaker 1: Sometimes, fans rally because it's unfair that though those people

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Speaker 2: It's just sad that was right after his season. That's

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Speaker 1: Huh, it made it feel like, well, it essentially had

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Speaker 3: Maybe there was so much of a.

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Speaker 1: Do I want to say backlash, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: But you're very passionate about the show, because I mean

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Speaker 3: And I think I am, at the end of the day.

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Speaker 3: Then fine, don't do the show, but don't do the

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he's been many times.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he can be on.

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Speaker 1: The top of all of our lists. Love Uncle Jesse.

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Speaker 1: It would have been amazing to have him.

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Speaker 2: Well, now you need to dance with him, because that

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Speaker 1: I would, you know what, I would actually love it

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Speaker 1: the show, they will say that hardest thing they've ever done.

442
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Speaker 3: Ten out of ten would do it again.

443
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Speaker 2: Was it harder when you were dating your person with Bryanton? Yeah,

444
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:27,120
Speaker 2: well that was hard.

445
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:28,920
Speaker 3: That was hard because.

446
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Speaker 2: I feel like it's a lot easier if you're not

447
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 2: dating the person, because and you're like, why can't you

448
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:37,879
Speaker 2: get that, King Zap arguing the morning before, I don't know.

449
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 1: We were dating for a year by the time we

450
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Speaker 1: had done the show.

451
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,200
Speaker 3: And I've never in my career, not.

452
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Speaker 1: Even competing career, I've never been romantically involved with my

453
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:52,000
Speaker 1: partners because I know I cannot separate home and work

454
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 1: like that, and I'm so passionate in that workspace in

455
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 1: dance that like I can I can be a drill sergeant.

456
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 1: I can also be nurturing, but like I need to

457
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,879
Speaker 1: see what the person needs to learn. But when it

458
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 1: came to bry my priority was the relationship. Of course,

459
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 1: I'm not going to blow up my relationship for the

460
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Speaker 1: sake of this experience. But it was a different time

461
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 1: on the show, right, so there was a different showrunner

462
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 1: and the idea and the energy around it was very,

463
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,159
Speaker 1: very different, and we've even said that we wish we

464
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 1: got to do it now. In this version with Conrad

465
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 1: Greenback and with Dina and everything that they've created, they've

466
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 1: brought the magic back to the show. It really is

467
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Speaker 1: what it used to be when Brian and I did it.

468
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Speaker 1: It was in that weird pocket of time where it

469
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Speaker 1: just wasn't representing truly what the magic of the show

470
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Speaker 1: was about.

471
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Speaker 3: And that's a shame.

472
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Speaker 1: But at least he got to experience it with me

473
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Speaker 1: and see what it is that I loved to do

474
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Speaker 1: for so.

475
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Speaker 3: Much of my life.

476
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Speaker 2: You know, the con is coming up, it's this weekend,

477
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Speaker 2: m So what is what is the thing that you're like,

478
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Speaker 2: obviously I've done I'm sure you've done cons. This is

479
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 2: the first dance when the Star's.

480
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 3: Con though, right, yeah, first ever.

481
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Speaker 2: I mean I've done a few One Tree Hill cons

482
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Speaker 2: and it's so fun to be around the energy and

483
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Speaker 2: you know, the people that love your show. So, like,

484
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Speaker 2: what are you is it seeing people that you haven't

485
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Speaker 2: seen on the show in a while? Like what, because

486
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,400
Speaker 2: obviously was Are you still doing the tour too?

487
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Speaker 3: The show does the tool?

488
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't done the tour in years.

489
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Speaker 3: I love the tour, the show, the tour is amazing.

490
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but what are you most looking forward to?

491
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Speaker 1: So for me, honestly, it's kind of that it's being

492
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Speaker 1: around everyone. I've had the gift of being able to

493
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: do some extra things with the show this year. I

494
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: did Disney Upfronts for them and being around everyone.

495
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 3: Again. I wanted more.

496
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Speaker 1: Dance back in my life, and the Universe provided and

497
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Speaker 1: I've been doing bits here and there, so I love

498
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: that I get to dance my ass off with these guys.

499
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: We have multiple opportunities to dance. We have a whole

500
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 1: show going on. We have extra things, fun games where

501
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: fans get involved. There's going to be celebrities era. I

502
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: haven't seen in a long time that did the show.

503
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: And honestly, it's experienced, Like I've been to some of

504
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 1: the cons that Brian's done and I they're amazing and

505
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 1: they're huge, and it's really focused on that meeting the

506
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 1: person that you want to meet, and the convention. The

507
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: Dance with the Stars con has all of that. We

508
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: have the meet and greets and the one on ones and

509
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 1: the step and repeats. But they've worked really hard to

510
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: create these two separate spaces of constant events, as constant

511
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: schedule of events where you can see people doing all

512
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: these extra things. You can play ping pong with Alan

513
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 1: and Brand and you can watch Sasha do a cooking class.

514
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,199
Speaker 1: You can come take a dance class with me that

515
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: focuses on like emoting and storytelling. There's all sorts of things,

516
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: and then you can get in and play some of

517
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 1: these games with us, and it sort of reminds me

518
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: of a lot of when we would do the Tool.

519
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: We'd have people get on stage, but then also the

520
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: meet and greets and also the live show. So it's

521
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 1: like everything dancing with the stars in one space.

522
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 2: Very interactive, super interactive.

523
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: The word immersive gets overused, but it is insanely immersive,

524
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 1: and I'm really excited to One of my favorite things

525
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 1: when I was on tour was meeting the fans and

526
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: hearing how much they loved the show. It's always so

527
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: cool to hear how it's affected their lives in some way, right,

528
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 1: whether it's brought them back together with people, got them

529
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Speaker 1: through an illness, got them through a moment in their life,

530
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Speaker 1: and it's they're always really beautiful story.

531
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Speaker 3: So I'm excited to meet people again.

532
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Speaker 2: Would you go back on as a pro if they're

533
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 2: called when they're.

534
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: Called, I don't know, God, do you think I it's

535
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: been four years since.

536
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 2: Yes, that's the thing. Yeah, And that's like our generation.

537
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 2: I guess it's like we grew like again. We want

538
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 2: to see you. We want to see the Peter's and

539
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 2: the Maxes and the you know, like we I are.

540
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 2: You guys are the heart of that show. And I yes,

541
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 2: of course the new people I don't know their names.

542
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 2: Yeah to me are dancing with I know Ardam's name,

543
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 2: I know you, I know you guys. You know I

544
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 2: as of I would come back as a viewer if

545
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 2: you guys were on the show.

546
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 3: You're the sweet spell.

547
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 4: In my opinion, Wow.

548
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 3: That is incredibly cinny. What would you do? I have

549
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 3: a lot of things lined up at the end of

550
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 3: this year, you know. I don't know.

551
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: It's my life has changed so much since doing the show,

552
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: But yes, do I miss dancing?

553
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 3: Oh my god, guys.

554
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: When I went to see the tour, just when they

555
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 1: were in La, I was like, oh my god, my

556
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 1: whole life was exploding with like wanting to be on

557
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: that stage with everyone. So I have a feeling. I

558
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: don't think it's possible. They have an incredible cast. I

559
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 1: don't think they have space. I will forever cheer them on.

560
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 1: I'll be in the ballroom. But if they were to

561
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: ask honestly this year, I think I'd say, yes, We've

562
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: had the conversation on other years and I wasn't ready

563
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 1: for it. Yeah, but Universe, if you give me the opportunity,

564
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 1: I'd probably.

565
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 2: Say yes, Oh it's going to happen. Are you going

566
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 2: to dance for Brian and Ireland in the castle?

567
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 3: Girl? Can I tell you a story about the whole

568
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 3: Ireland thing?

569
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 2: Please want because I just want to live like you're

570
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: you're going the same route. So, like I had a

571
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 2: baby and then and then we got married in Scotland,

572
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 2: like when when Roman was you know, older, but like

573
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 2: it is the it's the best. And then having them

574
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 2: there on that it's just it's it's beautiful.

575
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 3: It's beautiful. So I love Ireland.

576
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: Brian does, yes, have Irish heritage in his you know,

577
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 1: in his bloodline on his dad's side.

578
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 3: We're over there. We've gone to this a damn manor.

579
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: It's my birthday and its father's day landed on the

580
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: same day this year and it's just dreamy Michelin Star restaurants.

581
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: The grounds look like something out of a fairy tale

582
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 1: story book.

583
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 3: It's lunacy.

584
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: Uh. And I was like, baby, this is the best

585
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 1: wedding location ever, and he said, yes it is now

586
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 1: mind you, it's probably half a million dollars just for the.

587
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 3: Day at a damn like it's hute. It's crazy.

588
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 1: But so I'm taking all these photos of the day

589
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: is beautiful, and the next day or whenever it was,

590
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 1: we're at the hotel and you can now do a

591
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: different caption on every Instagram photo that you post.

592
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 2: Right, I heard that I had a mess with it,

593
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 2: but I heard, so I'm steady.

594
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 3: Now are we talking about it?

595
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, if like at some point we could swing that,

596
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 1: then sure, let's go get married at a damn manner.

597
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 3: Anyway, I digress.

598
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: I'm doing all of my cute captions for Instagram, so

599
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,719
Speaker 1: excited about this date everything. Wait, girl, we haven't booked

600
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: a damn manor for our wedding.

601
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 3: What happened? So I'm doing all the things.

602
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: The first photo, the first time I put this together,

603
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 1: it said wedding location vibes. Because we were talking about it,

604
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: Instagram crashed before it would load. Our taxi is coming

605
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: to take us to the next castle that we're going

606
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: to the next day. I'm like, shoot, I really want

607
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 1: to post it because I like, I'm fixated on it now.

608
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 1: So the second time I write the freaking captions, I

609
00:27:54,520 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: write wedding location found instead of vibes Jan, so a

610
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: big mistake, and then suddenly the whole internet thing.

611
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 3: So I've booked a.

612
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: Which is why I just asked you. Congrats on your

613
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 2: wedding in Ireland, sorry about your type book ingrats on

614
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: your new location.

615
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 3: But listen, get this.

616
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: My auntie in Australia left me voice note and she

617
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: was like, Shanna, May it's a bit far.

618
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 3: It's a big far for all of us to travel fae.

619
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 3: She was lived, lived, what are you talking about?

620
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: And I was like, Chris, I'm so sorry. It's not

621
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: actually happening in Ireland. So we have not yet booked

622
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,719
Speaker 1: a location for our wedding. Were so much going on.

623
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: We always do. Everyone's like when you're getting married.

624
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's not that wildly important to me

625
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 3: at this point.

626
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: I want another baby. There's so much going on in

627
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: the next eighteen months. Maybe and maybe by that point

628
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: we will book a damn manor and do it in Ireland.

629
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: But it is not actually a real thing, and I

630
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: didn't really know what to do, so I just left.

631
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 2: Alone and then just send some xan next to your

632
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 2: aunt for the flight exactly.

633
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll be fine. You'll make it.

634
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: You'll be fine, you or man, and you'll love You're welcome.

635
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: I love you, just love I just love you so much.

636
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: Everyone go see see your It's Palm Springs.

637
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: Correct, Yes, Palm Springs thirty first to the second, thirty

638
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: first of July to the second of April of sorry,

639
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: oh my god, April of August.

640
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 3: It's going to be incredible.

641
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: I have seen fans worry about are they going to

642
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: get personal time with us because the schedule came out

643
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: and it looks like it's just events. Yes, you will

644
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: have an abundance of time to have photos and conversations

645
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: and all the things with your favorites. It really is

646
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: going to be a huge, epic thing that's never been

647
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: done before, and I'm really excited about it.

648
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 2: Well, I can't wait to hear all about it. You're

649
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 2: the best. Everyone had to Dancing with the Stars. Pond

650
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 2: dot Com for tickets.

651
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 3: Thanks Sharon, Bye guys, nice to see you.

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Speaker 2: By