WEBVTT - TechStuff Classic: The Comcast Story: Part One

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio,

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<v Speaker 1>and how the tech are you? It is time for

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<v Speaker 1>a tech Stuff classic episode. This episode is called the

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<v Speaker 1>Comcast Story Heart one. I bet you can't guess what

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<v Speaker 1>next week's is called. This episode originally published on November four,

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and fifteen. It is of course covering the

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<v Speaker 1>cable company Comcast, which had an interesting growth period. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>and now, of course things are at a point where

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<v Speaker 1>Comcast is kind of reaching a saturation point and requires

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<v Speaker 1>other sources of revenue besides expanding into new markets. But

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<v Speaker 1>we'll cover some of that in part two and clear

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<v Speaker 1>this is one of those episodes where I could do

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<v Speaker 1>an update because you know, two thousand fifteen to two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand twenty two, we've been seeing a lot of changes

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<v Speaker 1>in the cable space, not so much the I s

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<v Speaker 1>P space, but definitely cable provider space. So I'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>touch on that again by the end of the episode,

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<v Speaker 1>but first let's listen to Part one, recorded and published

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<v Speaker 1>on November four, two thousand fifteen. So the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to look at this. The thing that that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of spurred me into talking about Comcast actually comes

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<v Speaker 1>from a recent experience I had. So I'm recording this

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<v Speaker 1>on Thursday, the twenty two of October two thousand fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>But on Monday, October nineteen, something special happened and I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to take part in it. That's something special was

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<v Speaker 1>that Star Wars episode seven, the Force Awaitkins the the

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<v Speaker 1>advanced tickets went on sale, and it was announced that

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<v Speaker 1>they went on sale a little earlier than what people

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<v Speaker 1>had originally anticipated. So I rushed to try and buy tickets,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the many things I tried to do

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<v Speaker 1>was use Fandango. But it was very clear that there

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<v Speaker 1>was an amazingly huge rush on tickets for the Fandango servers,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as all the other services out there, and

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<v Speaker 1>so you could say that the servers for Fandango weren't

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<v Speaker 1>fully operational in the parlance of Star Wars, and I

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<v Speaker 1>started getting irritated. But then I remembered that Fandango is

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<v Speaker 1>owned by Comcast, and then I thought, anger leads to hate.

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<v Speaker 1>Hate leads to podcasts. But I promise I will do

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<v Speaker 1>my best to remain objective and dispassionate as we look

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<v Speaker 1>at the company, its history and the role it plays

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<v Speaker 1>in their entertainment. And it's a really long history too.

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<v Speaker 1>So before I talked about Comcast in particular, let me

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<v Speaker 1>set the stage with some history about cable television. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Cable tv got its start back in the nineteen forties

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States, and there was a need for

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<v Speaker 1>an alternative to over the air broadcasts because some people

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<v Speaker 1>lived in remote locations that were too far away for

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<v Speaker 1>over the air air waves to make it to their

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<v Speaker 1>homes with any sort of fidelity, or they might live

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<v Speaker 1>in areas where radio waves had trouble reaching, like in

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<v Speaker 1>mountainous areas where a mountain might be blocking the radio waves.

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<v Speaker 1>So cable TV was the solution, and the basic model

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty simple in its design. In fact, the earliest

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<v Speaker 1>models just involved people setting up an antenna on a

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<v Speaker 1>really tall structure or a mountain or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then physically running a cable from the antenna to

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<v Speaker 1>their television sets. But beyond that you started to get

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<v Speaker 1>actual organized businesses that would do this on behalf of customers. You,

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<v Speaker 1>as a customer, would pay the business for the access

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<v Speaker 1>to these over the way air broadcast that otherwise you

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<v Speaker 1>would not be able to reach. So you would have

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<v Speaker 1>a broadcast station that would send out television along a

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<v Speaker 1>certain channel or frequency of radio waves, and your cable

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<v Speaker 1>station would essentially just be a set of receivers antenna

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<v Speaker 1>in other words, which would pick up these broadcasts and

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<v Speaker 1>then feed them through physical cables to their destinations. So

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<v Speaker 1>early cable was still very much reliant on over the

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<v Speaker 1>air broadcast. It was just an alternative way to get

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<v Speaker 1>that content, and channels don't take up much bandwidth on

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<v Speaker 1>a physical cable. Each channel is six mega hurts, and

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<v Speaker 1>a cable is capable of holding hundreds of mega hurts

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<v Speaker 1>of signals, and using compression, you can even send multiple

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<v Speaker 1>stations down a single six mega hurts channel, So you

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<v Speaker 1>can blast a huge amount of channels through a single cable,

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<v Speaker 1>and the cable box or television at the other end

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<v Speaker 1>of that cable can tune into specific channels and block

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<v Speaker 1>all the others out. In other words, imagine that you

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<v Speaker 1>are in a room and there's every actor you've ever

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<v Speaker 1>known about in that room, and they're all acting their

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<v Speaker 1>hearts out at you at the same time. But you

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<v Speaker 1>have the ability to tune into a specific actor and

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<v Speaker 1>tune out everybody else. That's basically what's going on with

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<v Speaker 1>cable on a technological level. And when you opt into

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<v Speaker 1>a cable bundle, often that means that you're also getting

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<v Speaker 1>the cable company to decrypt uh information. So what's happening

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<v Speaker 1>on the cable side, the cable operator side, is that

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<v Speaker 1>they will encrypt certain channels, like pay channels that otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>you would get for free. If you didn't have that encryption,

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<v Speaker 1>then you, as a customer would be able to access

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<v Speaker 1>everything a cable channel operator had to offer. But by

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<v Speaker 1>encrypting it, then the cable company can control which channels

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<v Speaker 1>you can actually view and which ones are off limits.

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<v Speaker 1>When you opt in to a cable bundle, like you

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<v Speaker 1>you subscribe to a specific cable service, they essentially send

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<v Speaker 1>a message to your television or a cable box and

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<v Speaker 1>that allows you to decrypt the signal on your end

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<v Speaker 1>so that you can actually watch it. And the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>communities in Pennsylvania, Oregon, and Arkansas were among the first

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<v Speaker 1>to receive cable service, and by that I mean people

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<v Speaker 1>were actually going out and setting up these antenna By

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty two, there are about seventy actual cable systems

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<v Speaker 1>in the entire country, So these were actual companies that

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<v Speaker 1>had taken the same sort of model that these enterprising

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<v Speaker 1>individuals had followed and actually made a business out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>They only had about fourteen thousand customers back in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty two. But cable television had a big advantage over

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<v Speaker 1>home antennas in that if you use a sophisticate antenna

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<v Speaker 1>and you were able to put it on a really

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<v Speaker 1>tall building or a mountain or some other really tall structure,

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<v Speaker 1>you could pick up signals from further away than folks

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<v Speaker 1>who are just using regular rabbit ears on their televisions,

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<v Speaker 1>which meant that cable customers sometimes could pick up signals

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<v Speaker 1>from other broadcast regions, so you might be able to

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<v Speaker 1>get content from multiple large cities. If you lived kind

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<v Speaker 1>of in between two big cities and you had this cable,

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<v Speaker 1>it might mean that you were able to double your

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<v Speaker 1>programming options. At least. It may be that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the two affiliates of of a major broadcast station are

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<v Speaker 1>showing more or less the same thing, but throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>day you would have some different options available to you,

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<v Speaker 1>which made cable fairly attractive. It was sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of cable's advantage over over the air broadcast, although,

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<v Speaker 1>as we'll talk about a little bit later, over the

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<v Speaker 1>air still had a lot of other advantages. So interest

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<v Speaker 1>in cable TV began to grow, particularly among people who

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<v Speaker 1>just couldn't get over the air easily. By nineteen sixty two,

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<v Speaker 1>the number of customers had grown to more than eight

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand people in the United States, So in ten

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<v Speaker 1>years it went from fourteen thousand customers to eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand in the US. Cable TV was becoming a viable alternative,

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<v Speaker 1>even in communities that didn't have problems accessing over the

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<v Speaker 1>year signals. But it was also one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>that cities were starting to look into because if you

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<v Speaker 1>lived in a city with lots of high rise buildings,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes that would block radio signals too. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things that that you could see the

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<v Speaker 1>the benefit, the potential application, but it was still going

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<v Speaker 1>to be really expensive to roll out the infrastructure. All right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that that sets the groundwork for what the cable industry

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<v Speaker 1>was like in the early sixties. Let's take a look

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<v Speaker 1>at Comcast specifically. The company actually traces its history back

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<v Speaker 1>to nineteen sixty three. That's when Ralph J. Roberts, Daniel

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron and Julian A. Broad Ski purchased a small cable

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<v Speaker 1>TV operator called American Cable Systems, which was in Tupelo, Mississippi,

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<v Speaker 1>and that service had just one thousand, two hundred subscribers

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<v Speaker 1>and that was it. The three businessmen spent five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars on that purchase. So who were these guys? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Ralph J. Roberts grew up in New York and in Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 1>He served in the United States Navy before going on

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<v Speaker 1>to work several different jobs. He gradually earned enough money

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<v Speaker 1>to purchase a business of his own. He and his

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<v Speaker 1>brother went into a business they invested in, a company

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<v Speaker 1>called Pioneer Suspender Company. Turns out there was money in

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<v Speaker 1>Suspenders because he and his brother decided to sell the

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<v Speaker 1>business off later on, and with that money it allowed

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<v Speaker 1>them to invest in other companies. So Ralph Roberts ended

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<v Speaker 1>up looking into the world of TV, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>reportedly Roberts who came up with a name Comcast. In

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<v Speaker 1>ninet lines of several years down the road, he would

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<v Speaker 1>combine the words communications and broadcast together to create the

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<v Speaker 1>name Comcast, and he would serve as Comcast Chief executive

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<v Speaker 1>Officer for more than four decades. Uh Ralph J. Roberts

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<v Speaker 1>passed away in June of two thousand and fifteen, so

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<v Speaker 1>very recently as of the recording of this podcast. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Aharon was born in nineteen twenty six in Giessen, Germany.

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<v Speaker 1>His family escaped Germany during the rise of the Nazi

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<v Speaker 1>Party in World War Two and they settled in Queens,

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<v Speaker 1>New York. Now. Tragically, when he was just thirteen years old,

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<v Speaker 1>he lost his mother. She committed suicide, and less than

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<v Speaker 1>a month later, his father also committed suicide. Daniel Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>was orphaned and he was not yet a citizen. He

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<v Speaker 1>continued to live in New York and eventually he would

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<v Speaker 1>be drafted and sent to Germany during World War Two.

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<v Speaker 1>When he returned, he pursued a career in journalism and

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<v Speaker 1>public relations. Eventually he entered the cable business and that's

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<v Speaker 1>when he met Roberts and agreed to co found Comcast.

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<v Speaker 1>In his obituary, he was referred to as the conscience

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<v Speaker 1>of the company, famously even buying coffee for picketing employees

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<v Speaker 1>who were in a labor dispute with Comcast. So he

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<v Speaker 1>was sort of the working man's representative among the three

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<v Speaker 1>co founders of this company. He passed away in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand three. We'll be back with more of Comcast's history

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<v Speaker 1>after this quick break. Julian Brodsky grew up in Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 1>He had served in the United States Army and he

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<v Speaker 1>became an accountant after he left the service. So Bronsky

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<v Speaker 1>served as Robert's accountant, Ralph J. Roberts. So he was

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<v Speaker 1>actually the accountant for Ralph J. Roberts, and was approached

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<v Speaker 1>by Roberts and by Aaron when they were preparing to

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<v Speaker 1>purchase this company, this little cable company in Tiple of Mississippi,

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<v Speaker 1>and Brodsky's main role was to raise money for the company.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand eleven, Brodsky retired as the vice chairman

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<v Speaker 1>of the company, and of the three founders, he is

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<v Speaker 1>the only one who is still alive as of the

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<v Speaker 1>recording of this podcast. Now. Daniel Aaron is credited with

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<v Speaker 1>having compared the three co founders as three people trying

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<v Speaker 1>to drive a single car, and he said that Brodsky

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<v Speaker 1>was the guy who had his foot on the accelerator

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<v Speaker 1>as he was raising capital for the venture. Uh, Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>his own foot, Aaron, his own foot was on the

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<v Speaker 1>break to make sure the company was a good corporate citizen,

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<v Speaker 1>stepping on the brakes to slow down the company if

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<v Speaker 1>he thought that they were about to do something reckless

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<v Speaker 1>or damaging or or just unethical. And meanwhile, or alf

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<v Speaker 1>Day Roberts, his hands were on the steering wheel, guiding

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<v Speaker 1>the company along. In those early days of cable, the

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<v Speaker 1>company faced some pretty big challenges. According to the founders,

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<v Speaker 1>they actually had to act as door to door salespeople

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<v Speaker 1>on occasion in an effort to grow. So they were

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<v Speaker 1>physically going out knocking on people's doors and telling them

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<v Speaker 1>about cable service. In an effort to get more customers.

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<v Speaker 1>They came to the conclusion that expansion would require purchasing

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<v Speaker 1>other cable companies. And this is a philosophy that Comcast

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<v Speaker 1>has stuck with time and time again over its long history.

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<v Speaker 1>They have purchased numerous companies that I will go into

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<v Speaker 1>in some detail throughout these two episodes. Now, originally they

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<v Speaker 1>focused on other cable services in the state of Mississippi.

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<v Speaker 1>So they began to expand both in eastern and western

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<v Speaker 1>Mississippi and really focused on that state, but they were

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<v Speaker 1>still finding it difficult to get enough customers to make

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<v Speaker 1>a profit after going through the expense of setting up

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<v Speaker 1>and maintaining cable systems. So, in other words, they're operating

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<v Speaker 1>expenses were too close to the amount of money they

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<v Speaker 1>were bringing in. It wasn't really a fast growing company.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't a fast growing business, and they were trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find new ways to add to that as quickly

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<v Speaker 1>as they possibly could. In the company, which at that

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<v Speaker 1>point was still known as American Cable Systems, purchased another

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<v Speaker 1>company called Storecast Corporation of America. Here's the difference. Though

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<v Speaker 1>Storecast was not a cable service company, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>marketing firm. And only was it a marketing firm, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a marketing firm that had a very specific kind

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<v Speaker 1>of clientele. They were chiefly known for helping food companies

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<v Speaker 1>work with supermarkets to maximize sales prices are sales of

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<v Speaker 1>the products, by placing those products in prominent locations. In

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<v Speaker 1>other words, they would go into a supermarket on behalf

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<v Speaker 1>of a client. Let's say wonder Bread. I'm just taking

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<v Speaker 1>that as a random example. I don't know if wonder

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<v Speaker 1>Bread was actually one of their clients. But let's say

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<v Speaker 1>they go into a supermarket. They're representing Wonderbread, and they

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<v Speaker 1>go to the bread aisle and they look around and

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<v Speaker 1>they say, well, this is not great for our client.

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<v Speaker 1>We recommend you move this to this shelf. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>move more product this way. You're gonna increase your sales.

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<v Speaker 1>Our client will be happy, you'll be happy. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of work they were mostly known for doing. So

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<v Speaker 1>a little odd that Comcast, or at that time, American

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<v Speaker 1>Cable Systems would purchase this type of company. Comcast continued

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<v Speaker 1>to try and grow through acquisitions during this time, and

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty six, Ralph J. Roberts turned his attention

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<v Speaker 1>to Philadelphia. Keep in mind, that's one of the cities

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<v Speaker 1>he grew up in New York and Philadelphia is where

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<v Speaker 1>he spent in his childhood, and he bought cable systems

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<v Speaker 1>that were serving the suburbs of Philadelphia, and later on

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<v Speaker 1>he would also purchase a few that we're serving western Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia is in the east part of Pennsylvania. He then

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<v Speaker 1>again to expand that service into neighboring communities and an

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<v Speaker 1>effort to scale up operations so instead of just acquiring

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<v Speaker 1>cable businesses, he was actually trying to lay out the

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<v Speaker 1>infrastructure to connect these various areas and scale up the

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<v Speaker 1>entire operation, kind of consolidating them. In nineteen sixty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>they would make another slightly weird purchase Comcast or or

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<v Speaker 1>American Cable System still at that time, bought a Musaic

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<v Speaker 1>franchise in Orlando, Florida. You're probably aware of music. Music

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<v Speaker 1>if you're if you never directly experienced it, you definitely

0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:40.440
<v Speaker 1>have probable. I'm guessing you've heard the term music is

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<v Speaker 1>a company that would create and distribute very soothing music,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes very soothing versions of popular songs that would play

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<v Speaker 1>in the background of things like elevators and grocery stores

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<v Speaker 1>and you know other places, dentist office, that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff where it's supposed to, you know, lull you and

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<v Speaker 1>relax you. And it often makes me angry because often

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<v Speaker 1>I can recognize the original song that the music is doing,

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<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't necessarily make me happy to hear it

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<v Speaker 1>in a very laid back kind of approach at any rate,

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to purchase a franchise in Orlando, Florida, and

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<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons this might be the case is

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<v Speaker 1>because Ralph Roberts's brother, Joe, was an executive vice president

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<v Speaker 1>of the Music Corporation, which might raise a few eyebrows

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<v Speaker 1>today that two brothers are essentially doing business with one

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<v Speaker 1>another and doing acquisitions of companies, one selling to the other,

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<v Speaker 1>But at any rate, that's what happened in Night In.

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<v Speaker 1>The company finally changed his changes its name to Comcast

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<v Speaker 1>and reincorporates, this time in Pennsylvania. In nineteen seventy, the

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<v Speaker 1>company reorganized so it's so off It's Florida Operations, which

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<v Speaker 1>had just bought two years earlier to another company called

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<v Speaker 1>STORER Communications, which will come back into play a little

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<v Speaker 1>later in the episode. And Comcast began to expand into

0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:18.360
<v Speaker 1>other markets, primarily Maryland at that point, and also explored

0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:23.760
<v Speaker 1>options and limited partnerships rather than outright acquisitions, which gave

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<v Speaker 1>the company a bit of an advantage in that through

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<v Speaker 1>a limited partnership, Comcast could get access to customers but

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<v Speaker 1>not have to commit so much of its operating funds

0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:38.800
<v Speaker 1>to expand the company, and this way it would allow

0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:42.280
<v Speaker 1>the company to grow without having to spend millions of

0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:46.520
<v Speaker 1>dollars acquiring other cable systems although it's still pursued that

0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:50.080
<v Speaker 1>as well, and the music party continued. At the same time,

0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Comcast bought franchises and multiple cities like Detroit, San Diego,

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<v Speaker 1>and Hartford, Connecticut. By Nino, Comcast was a to hold

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<v Speaker 1>an initial public offering was able to launch as a

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<v Speaker 1>publicly traded company. Stocks were traded on the NASDAK stock

0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:12.240
<v Speaker 1>market and the ticker symbol was c m c s A,

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<v Speaker 1>and it continued to grow. It would acquire smaller cable

0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:19.600
<v Speaker 1>companies and incorporate them into its own service, and the

0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:23.240
<v Speaker 1>company spread across the United States using these sort of acquisitions,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was still finding it challenging to penetrate markets

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<v Speaker 1>through other means. In other words, they were having trouble

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<v Speaker 1>selling the idea of subscribing to Comcast. They found it

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<v Speaker 1>easier to purchase the cable systems people were already using

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<v Speaker 1>and then lump them under Comcast, and thus the people

0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:45.760
<v Speaker 1>became Comcast customers by default. It wasn't necessarily that they

0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:49.040
<v Speaker 1>chose Comcast, but rather that the company they had been

0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:54.800
<v Speaker 1>a customer of before now belonged to Comcast, and that

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<v Speaker 1>also included expanding its hold on music. By nineteen seventy three,

0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:04.679
<v Speaker 1>Comcasts Music Network division was the largest independent musach operator.

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<v Speaker 1>So music operates under a franchise system, which means that

0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:11.919
<v Speaker 1>when Comcast would buy up a franchise would buy up

0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:16.600
<v Speaker 1>one region and other franchises would remain independent of Comcast.

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<v Speaker 1>But Comcast kept on doing this and thus became the

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<v Speaker 1>largest independent musaic operator. So if you're a child of

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<v Speaker 1>the early seventies and wondered where that easy listening music

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<v Speaker 1>came from, there are good odds that Comcast was ultimately responsible.

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<v Speaker 1>And also in nineteen seventy four, Ralph Roberts's son Brian

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<v Speaker 1>started working at Comcast officially uh specifically working for Storecast

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<v Speaker 1>as an intern, and by the following year he would

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<v Speaker 1>start training as a cable installer, which included home installations

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<v Speaker 1>and climbing poles to hook connections from drops to the

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<v Speaker 1>home the home area, and by three he would become

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<v Speaker 1>the general manager of the Trenton system for Comcast, and

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<v Speaker 1>by four he would become vice president of Operations for

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<v Speaker 1>the cable division. So within a decade of starting to

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<v Speaker 1>work for the company officially, there are some reports that

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<v Speaker 1>say that Brian Roberts was working at Comcast when he

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<v Speaker 1>was just seven years old, which brings into questions some

0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:23.399
<v Speaker 1>child labor laws, But at any rate, he within a

0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:26.399
<v Speaker 1>decade he would go from intern to vice president of

0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:30.800
<v Speaker 1>operations with a cable division. And uh, this also raised

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<v Speaker 1>some questions because I mean, he's the son of one

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<v Speaker 1>of the founders, so there's a little bit of legacy

0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:39.159
<v Speaker 1>issue going on here. But he consistently showed that he

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<v Speaker 1>was very dedicated to the company, so I don't mean

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<v Speaker 1>to suggest that he didn't deserve this position. He certainly

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<v Speaker 1>has been a great deal maker for Comcast and has

0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:52.800
<v Speaker 1>led the company to some massive, massive business deals that

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about in a second. But uh, it's still

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<v Speaker 1>raised some eyebrows in the community of cable industry. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got more to say about comcasts early history. After this

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<v Speaker 1>commercial break in nineteen seventy six, the co founder, Daniel Aharon,

0:22:17.880 --> 0:22:22.359
<v Speaker 1>would become the chairman of the National Cable and Television Association,

0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:25.679
<v Speaker 1>which is essentially a lobby group. It's it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>an advocacy group for cable companies, cable industry, cable service providers,

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<v Speaker 1>and was really focused on helping shape policy in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States that would remove challenges obstacles and restrictions facing

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<v Speaker 1>the cable industry, and in some cases these were restrictions

0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:47.480
<v Speaker 1>that were entirely arbitrary and unfair. I don't mean to

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<v Speaker 1>suggest that they were working to completely leverage everything so

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<v Speaker 1>that cable companies could dominate all telecommunications industries, but rather

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<v Speaker 1>to try and address some problems that the cable industry face.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it was brand new, this was something, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>even even by the seventies, this was still relatively new

0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:10.240
<v Speaker 1>and still uh something that had to battle with much

0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:15.200
<v Speaker 1>more entrenched systems like the telephone companies and the over

0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:20.600
<v Speaker 1>the air broadcast companies. Also in nineteen seventy seven, Comcast

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<v Speaker 1>would add HBO to twenty thousand customers in Pennsylvania with

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<v Speaker 1>a five night preview, so customers got five nights free HBO,

0:23:31.240 --> 0:23:35.360
<v Speaker 1>which was a fledgling company at that point, and afterward,

0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Comcast received three thousand subscription orders once the preview period end,

0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:44.840
<v Speaker 1>so it was a fairly successful preview. And if you

0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:48.200
<v Speaker 1>listen to the story of HBO, which I believe was

0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:52.080
<v Speaker 1>a three part episode that that I did, it's at

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<v Speaker 1>least two parts at the new rate, but I did

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<v Speaker 1>that quite a while ago. If you go and look

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<v Speaker 1>at the Tech Stuff archives, you can find the HBO

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<v Speaker 1>story where we talk a little more about how HBO

0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:07.160
<v Speaker 1>also really shaped the cable industry as it became more

0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:13.639
<v Speaker 1>and more important. In night Daniel Aaron would become UH.

0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:15.920
<v Speaker 1>He would use his position as the Chairman of the

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<v Speaker 1>National Cable Television Association or in c t A UH

0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:23.159
<v Speaker 1>and successfully lobby the United States government to reduce restrictions

0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:26.439
<v Speaker 1>on what cable operators could carry. So up to that point,

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<v Speaker 1>there had been some limitations on some of the programming

0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:33.240
<v Speaker 1>that cable operators could offer their customers, and often this

0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:36.760
<v Speaker 1>was programming that their customers actually wanted access to, but

0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:39.520
<v Speaker 1>the cable operators their hands were tied. They were not

0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:43.199
<v Speaker 1>allowed by law to carry that programming. So the n

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<v Speaker 1>c t A was able to argue successfully on behalf

0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:48.960
<v Speaker 1>of cable operators and even reach the point where cable

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<v Speaker 1>could offer up channels that weren't broadcast over the air,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning that cable companies could now create or partner with

0:24:55.920 --> 0:25:00.280
<v Speaker 1>creators to provide content that otherwise people would never see

0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:03.199
<v Speaker 1>because there'd be no other way of getting it. That

0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:06.640
<v Speaker 1>actually created a market advantage for cable over classic Over

0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:10.400
<v Speaker 1>the year broadcasts because now not only could you get

0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:14.280
<v Speaker 1>something that wasn't going to be affected by radio transmissions,

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:17.320
<v Speaker 1>but you could see content that would not be available

0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:20.679
<v Speaker 1>to you otherwise. And by nineteen seventy eight, Comcast earnings

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:24.760
<v Speaker 1>were an excess of three million dollars, which is chicken

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 1>feed compared to what they make today, but still was

0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:32.359
<v Speaker 1>impressive at the time, and Comcast made its first international

0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:37.160
<v Speaker 1>move in nineteen eighty three they expanded into the United Kingdom.

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:40.160
<v Speaker 1>The company was finding it increasingly difficult to acquire new

0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 1>operations in the United States. At that time, there were

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:46.280
<v Speaker 1>only a few major cable operators left that had not

0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:50.080
<v Speaker 1>been scooped up by one of the chief competitors to Comcast,

0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:52.960
<v Speaker 1>so that meant that there were only a few limited

0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:56.720
<v Speaker 1>service areas, meaning there was very little potential for growth

0:25:56.880 --> 0:26:01.000
<v Speaker 1>if Comcasts purchased those companies, and they were pretty expensive,

0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:03.560
<v Speaker 1>so it wasn't a very attractive investment on the part

0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:06.879
<v Speaker 1>of Comcast. But on the other hand, in the United

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Kingdom was a totally different story. Cable operators had barely

0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:15.520
<v Speaker 1>touched the UK, so Comcast jumped on that opportunity. Meanwhile,

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:18.240
<v Speaker 1>back in the States, Comcast caught a lucky break when

0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:22.240
<v Speaker 1>the United States government passed the Cable Act, which prevented

0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:26.199
<v Speaker 1>telephone companies from entering the cable business, which was a

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 1>stroke of luck for Comcast because the government had just

0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:31.520
<v Speaker 1>broken up the Bell system, which you can hear about

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 1>in our episodes on the History of A T and T,

0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:39.800
<v Speaker 1>another multi part series that explains why the telephone system

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:41.840
<v Speaker 1>in the United States is the way it is and

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<v Speaker 1>how the telecommunications industry changed as a result of it.

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<v Speaker 1>In Comcast would purchase twenty six percent interest in Group

0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 1>W Cable Incorporated. Now that investment more than doubled the

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:59.160
<v Speaker 1>number of Comcast customers at that time, adding one point

0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:03.720
<v Speaker 1>two million people to Comcast services. And Comcast also helped

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 1>found a little shopping company called QVC and they invested

0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:12.199
<v Speaker 1>three d eighty million dollars in the founding of that company.

0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Now they did not own QVC, they owned an interest

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 1>in QVC. And another big buy at that time was

0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:24.919
<v Speaker 1>STORER Communications Incorporated. You may have remembered that just a

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:28.520
<v Speaker 1>few minutes ago I talked about STORER Communications where uh

0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:32.480
<v Speaker 1>they There was the the buying of Musach and the

0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:38.440
<v Speaker 1>selling of Musach. While Comcast purchased fifty interest in STORER Communications,

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:43.080
<v Speaker 1>in which propelled Comcast into fifth place among the largest

0:27:43.119 --> 0:27:46.720
<v Speaker 1>cable TV operators in the US. The company now had

0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:50.679
<v Speaker 1>two million subscribers, and that same year, Brian roberts was

0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:54.360
<v Speaker 1>elected to the board of directors of Comcasts, so now

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Ralph J. Roberts Son is on the board of directors.

0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Comcast would celebrate its twenty five years business and also

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:07.439
<v Speaker 1>acquire the American Cellular Network Corporation or m CELL. This

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 1>creates a new division in the company called Comcast Cellular Communications,

0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 1>and over the years the division grows as Comcast acquires

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:20.440
<v Speaker 1>more cellular companies. And now we get to a complication,

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 1>right because just a minute ago I talked about the

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:25.159
<v Speaker 1>Cable Act. It was an important point in the history

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 1>of cable and telephone service. The Cable Act prevented telephone

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:31.760
<v Speaker 1>companies from getting into the cable business, and cable companies

0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:36.480
<v Speaker 1>were likewise prevented into getting into landline telephone business. But

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:40.400
<v Speaker 1>the blossoming cell phone service industry was a different story.

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 1>So Comcast could totally get into cell phones and not

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 1>violate this restriction on landlines. So comcast acquisition marked the

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:53.480
<v Speaker 1>first time people in the United States could look to

0:28:53.560 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 1>a non telephone company for phone service, which was massively important.

0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 1>It's really hard to actually express what that meant at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, but keep in mind, like you have telephone

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<v Speaker 1>companies that have been told, hey, you can't get into

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<v Speaker 1>this other industry because it's blossoming, it's just starting, and

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want to kill it before it gets a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to establish itself. Meanwhile, the other side is getting

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<v Speaker 1>into a related business for the telephone industry, and so

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<v Speaker 1>you now have these massive companies in the telephone industry

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<v Speaker 1>kind of scared about what's going to happen because they

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<v Speaker 1>have limited options at their disposal. Now, this is all

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<v Speaker 1>pretty complex, but it's going to get super crazy when

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<v Speaker 1>I go on a little bit further. This is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of where I wanted to end part one to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the possibilities that were ahead for Comcast. Now, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things I want to really drive home, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to become even more clear when you listen

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<v Speaker 1>to the next episode, is that Comcast continuously chose to

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<v Speaker 1>acquire other companies in an effort to grow as a

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<v Speaker 1>publicly traded company. One of the most important uh measures

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<v Speaker 1>of a company's success is how much did it grow

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<v Speaker 1>year over year that that operating really well isn't enough.

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<v Speaker 1>A company has to grow to be considered valuable. And

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<v Speaker 1>the way Comcast largely drove its growth was through purchasing

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<v Speaker 1>other cable services. Again, it can be a challenge to

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<v Speaker 1>add customers otherwise, So if you want to add customers,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a couple of different options ahead of you,

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<v Speaker 1>but one of them is that you just buy up

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<v Speaker 1>other systems and then automatically you have those customers added

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<v Speaker 1>to you. Also, we were starting to see a world

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<v Speaker 1>already where major cable companies were essentially making agreements with

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<v Speaker 1>one another to lay off in certain regions. So you

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<v Speaker 1>are starting to see where one cable company would provide

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<v Speaker 1>service to an area and other cable companies would stay

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<v Speaker 1>out of that area. In return, that first cable company

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<v Speaker 1>would stay out of its competitors areas, which was great

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<v Speaker 1>for the companies but not so great for consumers. This

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<v Speaker 1>is why in lots of different regions in the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>you really don't have many options as a customer. You

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<v Speaker 1>may have just a single major cable service provider in

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<v Speaker 1>your area, and you could look at something else like

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<v Speaker 1>satellite service, or you might be able to look at

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<v Speaker 1>smaller cable companies that are technically just piggybacking onto the

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<v Speaker 1>larger cable company in the first place. And that's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the big reasons why in Part two we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to explore some of the controversies around Comcast. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>tons of stuff to talk about in Part two, including

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<v Speaker 1>how Brian Roberts continued his rise and in Comcast, how

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<v Speaker 1>the founders kind of stepped awa a. All right, that

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<v Speaker 1>wraps up that classic episode. Next week we will continue

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<v Speaker 1>with the Comcast story Part two, which you know, again,

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<v Speaker 1>we could probably do a part three after that, and

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