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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: Is this this Morning Combat?

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Speaker 3: I feel the power?

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Friday May fifth, twenty twenty three, the day before a

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Speaker 3: loaded combat sports weekend, and you have pulled in to

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Speaker 3: Morning Combat, the award winning combat sports showcase brought to

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Speaker 3: you by CBS Sports and Showtime. My name is Brian Campbell,

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Speaker 3: the BBC with the BDE, the Alf, all those great nicknames. Here.

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Speaker 3: The partner next to me, though, deserves a round of

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Speaker 3: applause today. He's not only the finest combat sports analyst

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Speaker 3: in the game, regardless of his history of manhood, he's

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Speaker 3: also a guy who was willing to pre tape today's

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Speaker 3: episode because, as you listen to this, your boy BC

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Speaker 3: hit in sixteen years of marriage on that sinko to

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Speaker 3: myos So, Luke Thomas, thank you for allowing me to

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Speaker 3: f with our schedule. I want the people to know

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Speaker 3: we are not live. We are not live.

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Speaker 2: Right now, We're not live. You know, I couldn't tell

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Speaker 2: if it'd be more fun for me to root for

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Speaker 2: your marriage's failure or success. But then when I really

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Speaker 2: thought about it, I was like, your marriage's failure would

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Speaker 2: create yet more headaches for me. So for that selfish

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Speaker 2: reason alone, I hope you have a wonderful wedding anniversary.

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Speaker 3: I think that would free me up for more content. Luke,

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Speaker 3: are you assuming that I would be into you? Is

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Speaker 3: that what you're assuming, like one wife to the other.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it was actually quite the opposite. It would

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Speaker 2: be like really sad content. You know what I mean

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Speaker 2: to be? Oh, single, dad, washed, depressed energy and I

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Speaker 2: just feel like only one of us can be the

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Speaker 3: Well, what if I just moved in with the paquettes

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Speaker 3: and became the meat and there's nova Scotian sandwich. I

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Speaker 2: You and the Paquettes made a thrupple, I would wish

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Speaker 2: a killer whale to eat all three of you on

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: Oh there you have it, Get fired up. I'll buck

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Speaker 3: you more. And of mylef CBS Sports on the ones

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Speaker 3: and twos behind us. Of course, this is a great

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Speaker 3: show set in the stage for how about tonight Friday

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Speaker 3: Night one, Fight Night ten one Championships US debut. We

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Speaker 3: This weekend in Newark? Saturday, the return of Henry's hudo.

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Speaker 3: How about Canelo Alvarez, the biggest star in all of boxing?

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Speaker 3: Although Gervante's knocking on that door, brother, he returns against

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Speaker 3: John Ryder. We're gonna set the stage, play a little

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Speaker 3: okay bed and you can try to figure out whether

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Speaker 3: the drapes matched the carpet. Luke, what is going on here?

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Speaker 3: I got country Time pink lemonade on my face?

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Speaker 2: I mean yeah, could you be could you be redder?

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Speaker 2: I mean you just look.

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Speaker 3: Went like all pale down hair, and it's just like

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Speaker 2: You've been drinking on the job there.

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Speaker 3: Guy, No, no, I know this is this is all

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Speaker 3: Mike caldera lab. I'm trying to turn my skin around.

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Speaker 2: Luke, have you have you ever? Do you know? Are

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Speaker 3: I mean, has there ever been a gummy and you're

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Speaker 3: all right, I hope not, but no, no, it seems like.

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Speaker 2: You know, well it has lasted, so your wife is

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Speaker 3: Indeed, sixteen years deep, so happy uh Mayweather de la

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Speaker 3: joie anniversary to everyone out there. Oh look, I don't

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Speaker 3: Uh was she in Newark last week? Is that what happened?

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Speaker 3: I guess that's it, right, Well, hey, you know you

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Speaker 3: had some good moments this week, Luke. John Jones shouted

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to I'm trying to pull out of all

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Speaker 3: trying to pull out. Thank you, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: There's no need. Your balls don't work anymore.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, three, three, three of them, Luke, I mean three.

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Speaker 3: It took three to tame this bag. You know what

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Speaker 5: All right, might as well get rip roaring and get

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Speaker 5: into today's fantastic show quickly though showtime dot com of course,

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Speaker 5: so you could get thirty days free right now, get

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Speaker 3: Watch that Bill Cosby vehicle. It was fantastic. Check it out.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, the only thing that could tame

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Speaker 3: Just you know, Luke, there's nothing quite like a shorn scrotome.

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Speaker 3: It's quite bathtaking. In fact, look to be fair with you,

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Speaker 3: You know where I'm going with that. Alright, nineties counter Indeed,

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Speaker 3: we got a great show for you. We just watched

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Speaker 2: A lot of stupid shit, guys accusing each other of

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, Shatri, Luke, he's not always there

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it does. I mean we're talking about

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Speaker 2: You know, they don't really talk shit about Demetrius at all.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely the most There's not a ton of odds makers

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Speaker 3: I caught up with him a week ago on being

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they believe in my brand. You know,

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Speaker 4: Risks when I find you know, I was talking to

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Speaker 3: That's funny. You don't think of him as a risk taker,

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Speaker 3: He's got the black diamond in front of him. Thirty

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Speaker 4: You know, it's funny you say ribery and these aren't

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Speaker 4: my words, these are words from other I guess we

433
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Speaker 4: say interviewer, interviewees, interviewers. They're like, this isn't really a ribery.

434
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Speaker 4: And I was like, what are you talking about? And

435
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 4: they're like, well, it's so short, right, Like when you

436
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 4: look at my you know, my John Dotts and my

437
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:23,639
Speaker 4: Joseph bin Navidez fights or even back to back, but

438
00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,159
Speaker 4: this one's kind of back to back, you know, I

439
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 4: feel like, you know, you look at riberies, the greatest

440
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,200
Speaker 4: ribories and mixed Marshalts. You look at John Jones Versusdannie

441
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 4: core Me, you look at you even look at Stowe coach,

442
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,439
Speaker 4: Steve Austin versus Brett Hart. Right, it's a long build up.

443
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 4: They're always behind each other's river mirror. They're always they're

444
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,959
Speaker 4: always intertwined in each other's life, right.

445
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Speaker 6: You know, you look at when I fought jose Minivitez.

446
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Speaker 4: We find at ull see one fifty two in Toronto,

447
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Speaker 4: and then you know I ended up beating them. Then

448
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 4: he went off of one three fights. I went off

449
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,400
Speaker 4: one three fights. Then we got intermingled again. Our past

450
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 4: kind of converged together. Right where I'm at press conference,

451
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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, you see Joseph fight. I'm like, guy,

452
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,199
Speaker 4: so a fight. He looked great, you know, saying there

453
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Speaker 4: with John Nott w Anden we fight it, you know,

454
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 4: January in two thousand and thirteen, and then fast forward

455
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Speaker 4: to UFC one ninety seven, we're fighting again. After he

456
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 4: went off and did three he knocked he was knocking

457
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Speaker 4: out everybody who's becoming to boogey. Then he's knocking people

458
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Speaker 4: out and it was almost like we came back together.

459
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 4: So with me and Adriano, it doesn't really feel like

460
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Speaker 4: the same ribery because it's back to back, like we

461
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Speaker 4: fight in twenty twenty one. I got knocked out, then

462
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Speaker 4: I fought rot Tank and then we fight again, and

463
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Speaker 4: now we're fighting again. So it's only been a nine

464
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Speaker 4: month separation between us, so we we didn't haven't had

465
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Speaker 4: that kind of buzz that I've had in the pass

466
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Speaker 4: as a Ribaly great.

467
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Speaker 6: Great, it's gonna be another great fight, great opponent.

468
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Speaker 4: But when I compared to my other and this is

469
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Speaker 4: this all came from somebody else pointed out to me,

470
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Speaker 4: I was like, holy shit, you know what, you're actually right,

471
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 4: And then I was like, you know what, you're kind

472
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Speaker 4: of right.

473
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Speaker 6: It's like it's like the Turtles and Shredder. It wasn't

474
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Speaker 6: two episodes, it wasn't three episodes. It was a lifelong.

475
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Speaker 6: It was lifelong. That was That was kind of the synopsis.

476
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Speaker 4: So for this, you know this would be the last time,

477
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 4: you know, rather win, loser draw our story Linds were

478
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Speaker 4: ever a verge unless a huge bag of money comes

479
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 4: into my lap. So for me, it's, you know, it's

480
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 4: a great fight, another punt. But when I look back

481
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Speaker 4: on my career as the substance of vibe where I

482
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Speaker 4: have to talk about this person for months even years,

483
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Speaker 4: this is a very short, short one because we're sure

484
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Speaker 4: now if you would have went back and fought like

485
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Speaker 4: yu Yo Wakamatsugen and you fought Rehys McLaren and somebody else,

486
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Speaker 4: and I went off, I fought Kirok my top and

487
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,880
Speaker 4: then another guy, another guy, and then we came back

488
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Speaker 4: and we're both in in each other's river.

489
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Speaker 6: Mere different story, but this isn't the case for this one.

490
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Speaker 3: Well, we'll see how this plays out, Looke. I love

491
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Speaker 3: the matchup. I mean, do you have any feels on

492
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Speaker 3: which way this goes or how it ends up looking

493
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Speaker 3: there is that STIs factor for Adriana Mariich. But man

494
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Speaker 3: DJ really showed us his greatness in that rematch.

495
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Speaker 2: Yeah, two things I think well really one. But to

496
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Speaker 2: the point is interestingly enough, in the second fight, DJ

497
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Speaker 2: was controlled for the first two rounds. I mean the

498
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Speaker 2: bulk of it. In Rich Frinklin's words, he spent on

499
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Speaker 2: his back, that's true, and then he got rocked in

500
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Speaker 2: the second round with a heat surprise headkick Maris. By

501
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Speaker 2: the way, I'm told that you can say marisro Maris

502
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 2: just depending on which kind of accent you have in Brazil.

503
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Speaker 2: I don't know who they hell knows, but what I

504
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 2: do know is that here's what I think is the

505
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 2: dominant factor. DJ has a very very difficult task with

506
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,919
Speaker 2: this guy with managing distance, range and everything else. I

507
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 2: think altitude is going to be a huge factor here

508
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 2: because you noticeably see Marias slow down during round three,

509
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 2: and of course DJ finishes him off in round four

510
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Speaker 2: after having a hot start in the first and second round. Now,

511
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Speaker 2: I don't know exactly like to say, I'm not declaring

512
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 2: to you as bad cardio, but he definitely couldn't keep

513
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 2: up the same pace, especially as DJ makes adjustments over time.

514
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 2: So provided he doesn't get finished, and I do think

515
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Speaker 2: his cardio will be really good. He's been out there

516
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Speaker 2: for a time to acclimatize. I think this is going

517
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Speaker 2: to be a bit of an uphill climb for Mariash

518
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Speaker 2: If we were at sea level, I don't really know

519
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Speaker 2: exactly how I would I think it would change a

520
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 2: little bit. But because of that equation, I don't know

521
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Speaker 2: exactly what Maria's is doing. But I know that DJ

522
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 2: is gonna have good preparation for this. Although I don't

523
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 2: think he's fought at altitude before anyway, I think that's

524
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 2: gonna be a really decisive factor here for a guy

525
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 2: who after two rounds slowed down in the second fight,

526
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Speaker 2: I think it's gonna happen again in the third.

527
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Speaker 3: I'm just a washed civilian, Luke, but having just spent

528
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 3: ten days vacationing in Colorado and Utah and like seeing,

529
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 3: you know, just flying into four or five six thousand

530
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,679
Speaker 3: feet kicking my ass for days, dude, Ike, I remember

531
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Speaker 3: remember the nineteen ninety final four NCAA Championship was you know,

532
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 3: U and l Ve against Duke, and Duke got clobbered

533
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 3: by thirty points, and you know, Bobby Hurley sucked that night,

534
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 3: and everyone's like, well the altitude. I remember thinking, like, man,

535
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 3: what a lame excuse? You know what I mean, get

536
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 3: out there and ball. You know they can't beat them rebels,

537
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 3: But dude, I can't even like walk upstairs in altitude.

538
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 3: So basically, if you're not training at altitude, what are

539
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 3: you doing? Luke? Why are people in South Florida?

540
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 2: I don't get it. I mean, I get why people

541
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 2: would be near the beach or something like that and

542
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 2: want to live in Florida. But I'm saying in terms

543
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 2: of the competitive advantage, it can be significant in certain ways,

544
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 2: or the disadvantage if you're unaccustomed to it can be

545
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 2: really hard to get used to, you know, fighting in them.

546
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 2: And this is also like Mexico City is even higher

547
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: than that. Mexico City is even higher than Denver, So

548
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 2: you know there's guys have been able to do it.

549
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 2: Tony Ferguson has looked marvelous at it. But you can see, man,

550
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 2: if that's in your back pocket, If even at altitude

551
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 2: you can keep the same pace you normally do anywhere else,

552
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 2: sky's the limitude you should win over time with something

553
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: like that.

554
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 3: Is DJ more likely to officially have a you know,

555
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 3: put the gloves down, thank you everybody for being here moment?

556
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 3: If he wins or loses.

557
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 2: On Friday Night, loses loses. I think if he wins

558
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 2: and wins triumphant, well there's also a case where if

559
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 2: he wins really triumphantly, that's satisfactory to him as well.

560
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 2: I think what will happen is if he feels like

561
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 2: it was too easy or too short, or you know,

562
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 2: it was a nice win, but I didn't quite get

563
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 2: out of this experience what I was looking for. Then

564
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 2: after that there could be a secondary one. But again,

565
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 2: if it's a tough scrap and he's all fucked up afterwards,

566
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: or he gets knocked out like he did in the

567
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: first fight, yeah, that could be. That could very much

568
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 2: be the end of him. He's thirty six, he's old.

569
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 3: It'd be interesting to see Rod Tang in the co

570
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 3: main event in a flyweight muy Thai bout against Edgar Tabaris. Luke,

571
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 3: we got some submission grappling with Mikey Mussamecchi Stan Fairtex,

572
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 3: who I consider to be the the most exciting fighter

573
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 3: in in one championship. Luke must see potential in terms

574
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 3: of those Adam weight brawls that she's in. She's got

575
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 3: to fight here against Elise Anderson, also the return of

576
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 3: Sage North cut Damn. Also Luke ur dr former two

577
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 3: division champion Ranier de Ritter gonna be in a middleweight

578
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 3: submission grappling match with Tyrutolo, and I'm sure you could

579
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 3: throw some extra alsos on here.

580
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 2: Roberto sold its big free agent acquisition by one.

581
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 3: You know their roster pretty well. Is this for the

582
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 3: US audience the best mix? In your eyes? Off it?

583
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 3: If this is the close up, this is the first

584
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 3: time people might flip over. I mean it's not their

585
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 3: first time being you know, aired in the US. But

586
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 3: I like what they put together, is what I'm trying

587
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 3: to say.

588
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 2: Is it the best version of what they have? I

589
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 2: don't think so for the US audience, But to your point,

590
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty good. As you mentioned, we all

591
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 2: know DJ's in the main event. I think that's exactly

592
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: the right call to make. By the way, I want

593
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 2: to point out that that I know it's at one

594
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: thirty five, but this is basically you know, these guys

595
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: are flyweights. I mean, I guess they call them mantway

596
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 2: to this point, but we're talking about the best flyweight

597
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 2: of all time. Even though this fight's at one thirty

598
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 2: five that you the the one debut is featuring these

599
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 2: lighter weight class guys. I guess the point I'm trying

600
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 2: to make, and uh, that shouldn't that shouldn't be looked

601
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 2: past for a promoter doing that, that really is a

602
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 2: nod to I think more of the hardcore fan. Yeah, yes,

603
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: that's the star, but at the same time, Demetris has

604
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: struggled here historically in terms of that level. The other thing,

605
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: I would say BC on this card if they wanted to.

606
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 2: You know, I'm a little surprised they didn't put Boucheesha

607
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 2: on the cord. Fully fluent in English, I think either

608
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: trains and lives here, but he certainly makes a lot

609
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: of time here if he's back in Brazil, you know,

610
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: and like he's the future of their division. He's a

611
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 2: really fun submission grappler. I'm a little surprised that it

612
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: put him, but obviously they've got other cards to fill,

613
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 2: so you know, who knows what the situation is with that.

614
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 3: You mentioned twenty eight year old Roberto Solditch from Bosnia

615
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 3: and Herzegovina. Luke didn't expect to be pulling that out

616
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 3: of it. Today. You were telling me that he lost

617
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 3: to Amislav in the past, and Luke, you know he

618
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 3: lost the DDP in twenty eighteen and then came back

619
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 3: and knocked out Africa's the only champion in the rematch.

620
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 2: I think, by the way he identifies as Croatian. I

621
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: could be wrong at this point, but to your point,

622
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: I think he was born there. No, the guy who

623
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: beat Yourrosov, Youroslav i'm a slav was uh he was

624
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: the guy in the UFC card. It's not gotcha, it's

625
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: not this gentleman.

626
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 3: Okay, this gentleman lost to Yaroslav A Masov, is what

627
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 3: I'm trying to tell you, Luke.

628
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how good A'mosov is. A Amasov's a beast,

629
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: also drinks duple C beat him and then he came

630
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: back in their rematch and finished him off with strikes

631
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: in the third round.

632
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 3: So are you aware that I that I that I

633
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 3: teed you up with that fact about fifteen No.

634
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: I was trying to get my goddamn notes up and

635
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: I misheard that part. I'm sorry, bro, I'm trying to

636
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: do better with that.

637
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 3: Thank you, Luke. Yeah, let's see what one's got here.

638
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 3: Sage north Cut is back in a lightweight about we

639
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 3: talked about when this fight was announced. But Ahmed Mutaiba

640
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: is his opponent. Mutaba and ten and two on a

641
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 3: two fight winning streak in one is Mutaba? So, uh,

642
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: you know, are you just looking for sage his face

643
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 3: not to fall off here? Luke? Have you founded him out?

644
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: Is this an attraction fight to you? What do you

645
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 3: think here?

646
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, listen, the guy was off for four years.

647
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: I wasn't sure he was coming back. Dude. I mean

648
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 2: that was a brutal loss that he took, and you know,

649
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: all the credit in the world to want to get

650
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: back out there. I'm surprised. Wouldn't be surprised if he's

651
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,479
Speaker 2: like one and done two by the way, I mean

652
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 2: think these guys can say what they want, but we'll see.

653
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: So I respect that he should mop the floor with

654
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: this guy. Also, don't want to forget on end saying

655
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 2: from the Burmese Python for me Moore. So he's also

656
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 2: on the cart as well. Yeah, they put some guys

657
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 2: who they're action oriented dudes on there. It's a very

658
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: commendable effort for a US debut given the circumstances.

659
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 3: I'm video hosting that one Luke Friday Night in Colorado.

660
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 3: Let's go to topic two. The King is back in terms

661
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 3: of boxing circles and fandom and the former POFU Pod

662
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 3: number one, Canelo Alvarez still you're running and defended undisputed

663
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: super Away champion, back for the first time, though since

664
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 3: a twenty twenty two that saw him face some setbacks,

665
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 3: not only the loss to Dimitri Beval in May in

666
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 3: moving up to try to challenge for that light heavyweight title,

667
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 3: but the victory and the trilogy with Cannati Glovkin in

668
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 3: the Fall, in which look, it was just kind of

669
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 3: whole hum wouldn't say lifeless, but both look their age.

670
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 3: The problem here is Canelo's only thirty two, even though

671
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 3: he's been a pro since two thousand and five when

672
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 3: he was fifteen years old, which is crazy. But Luke,

673
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: John Ryder, the mandatory opponent from England, it's got a

674
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 3: couple losses. Aggressive South Paul, though on a nice streak,

675
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 3: sends his loss to Callum Smith in their title bout

676
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 3: one that was disputed though that a lot of people

677
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 3: thought John Ryder should have one. He's won four to

678
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 3: zero since then. He beat Danny Jacobs and sent him

679
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 3: essentially into retirement. Then he stopped an unbeaten fighter to

680
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 3: get this opportunity. So, Luke, the theme here for Canelo

681
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 3: is that we're going home. It's pay per view, but

682
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 3: it's in Guadalajara, his home city. First time he's fighting

683
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 3: in Mexico at all since twenty eleven. They're scaling the

684
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 3: stadium to about I believe fifty to sixty thousand. But

685
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 3: nobody thinks he's gonna have trouble, right even with this

686
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 3: let's say, soft minority lingering narrative out there. Now at

687
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 3: thirty two, we're certainly in the second half of Canelo's

688
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 3: great prime. But is that prime over, Luke? Is that

689
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 3: prime almost over? What was twenty twenty two? If he

690
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 3: comes in and cleans up on John Ryder, we'll throw

691
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 3: that out the window and forget it in your eyes?

692
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 3: What was twenty twenty two for Canelo after two or

693
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 3: three of the hottest years we've seen any elite fighter have.

694
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was a bit of a step back,

695
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: but it's not clear exactly it's a decline just yet

696
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: to me. I mean Triple G is he didn't step

697
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: on the gas. So you're like, what really happened there,

698
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,719
Speaker 2: It's hard to know, and bivil, he was just overmatched.

699
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: I mean, what are you gonna do?

700
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 3: That was?

701
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: You know now that we know, I mean hindsight being

702
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, he was never gonna win that one, right

703
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: like that was not gonna happen on that night, certainly,

704
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 2: And so okay, fine, he didn't look great there and

705
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,959
Speaker 2: looked overmatched and out physical too, but out technicaled at

706
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 2: the same time given the circumstances again, and then you

707
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: go into the Triple G trilogy and it was like,

708
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 2: I don't know, he just couldn't get out of the

709
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: third gear or something. That was the weird part. So

710
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: I just don't know what to say about it. I mean,

711
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: there is to your point, we should just say it

712
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: out loud. The boxing world basically isn't sure, but they

713
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: have suspicions, some do anyway, that Canelo Alvarez might be

714
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: on the decline, and we simply just don't know. And

715
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 2: the worst part is BC a fight like this won't

716
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: really tell us that dot dot dot unless Canelo has

717
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: really fallen off a cliff, because there's ways he can

718
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: win and kind of camouflage that he actually has declined.

719
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: Right, Look, did I think writer was gonna be even

720
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 3: a Danny Jacobs?

721
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 6: Know?

722
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 3: So there's certainly been moments in which he's lifted himself

723
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 3: and you'd been like, okay, man, he's you know, he's

724
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 3: a tough fighter. He's tough out, but he doesn't have

725
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 3: a fight changing power for the most part. The stoppage

726
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: win that allowed him to move into this spot, you know,

727
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 3: winning the interim title and becoming the number one contender

728
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 3: here at the WBO. Uh you know the fighter that

729
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 3: he fought. I forgot the guy's name for a second here,

730
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 3: I'll look it up, but you know he had a

731
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 3: hand injury that forced him to retire. So you know,

732
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 3: Rider's not a killer, but he is a south ball

733
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 3: who fights on the lead foot. He tries to get

734
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 3: inside on you, tries to go to the body. You

735
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 3: just feel like even with a Canelo who who, I

736
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 3: don't know what if he is at eighty percent of

737
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 3: where he was when he walked through the division in

738
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen and became the undisputed champion or twenty twenty one,

739
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 3: whatever it was, Luke, He's still there. Still might be

740
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 3: the right style just for him to light up in

741
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 3: that regarded rider, who's who's hungry and aggressive from London

742
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 3: and you know, nice guy, but there's not there's not

743
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 3: enough nuance in his boxing game to try to pull

744
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 3: off an upset here in the traditional way. And I

745
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 3: just don't think he has the power to move Canelo

746
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 3: at the end of the day. So then the narrative

747
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 3: becomes some about the Canelo Mexican experience and returning to

748
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 3: his home country, and a lot about what's next. But

749
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 3: one thing I want to touch on the Mexico thing, Luke,

750
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 3: is I'm shocked that this fight happened right now now,

751
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 3: and I don't mean necessarily because of the you know,

752
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 3: like the travel us travel well there's not a band,

753
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 3: but there's a there's a firm question here, Luke, right on,

754
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 3: it might not be safe to go in all of

755
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 3: Mexico at the moment.

756
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if the what you're so what you're

757
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: described as someone who has traveled to places where this

758
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: has happened. Uh are you asking has the State Department

759
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 2: issued a travel advisory? Yes, I don't know.

760
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 3: People are are are taking it. So look, Canelo himself

761
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 3: said this week Eddie Hern told me how hard it

762
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 3: would be to make this fight. I kept pushing him

763
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 3: to make it. He made it. Now I see how

764
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: hard it was to make this fight. So the storyline

765
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 3: in terms of Canelo coming back here Lucas, he's turning

766
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 3: down insane mind. There was an offer from Saudi Arabia.

767
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 3: According to Eddie Hearn, there was a big one in London,

768
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 3: and then there were plans for Las Vegas for this fight.

769
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 3: Canelo wandered it in Guadalajara. So he's willing to take

770
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 3: that pay cut. They expect that he'll still make eight

771
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 3: figures for this fight, but it will, you know, will

772
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 3: not be in the forty five million he was guaranteed

773
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 3: against Glovekin. Or the fact that just two days ago

774
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 3: he showed up on the Forbes Highest Paid Athlete list,

775
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 3: having made one hundred and ten million in twenty twenty two,

776
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 3: fifth the fifth highest paid athlete. So Canelo openly taking

777
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 3: a pay cut. But what I thought was interesting lu

778
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 3: because he hasn't had the best relationship with Mexico in

779
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 3: recent years. And how I want to explain that is

780
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 3: we didn't know when he was preparing to fight Rocky

781
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 3: Fielding in twenty eighteen. In December in New York that

782
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 3: simultaneously at that moment, one of his brothers, remember he's

783
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 3: the youngest of seven I believe seven or eight brothers.

784
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 3: They all turned pro. One of them got kidnapped. He

785
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 3: was essentially negotiating with the kidnappers, then doing media and

786
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 3: kind of alternating, and he said the reason he didn't

787
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 3: contact the Mexican authorities or the government or go public

788
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 3: with it was his fear that the police were involved.

789
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 3: You then look into his comments negatively against the way

790
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 3: that the government treats athletes. So Canelo was on the

791
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 3: Olympic junior team essentially at age fifteen. He claims Luke

792
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 3: all these years later that the Mexican government promises certain

793
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 3: amounts of stipends and financial protection for their athletes that

794
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 3: are representing the Olympics, no different from a lot of countries,

795
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 3: but that the Mexican government just doesn't come through and

796
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 3: follow up with it. So he says, he calls them

797
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 3: liars and steelers. That was a big decision why he

798
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 3: turned pro at age fifteen. That same year and even

799
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 3: this fight week, there were media reports from some of

800
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 3: his scrums in which he's still calling out the Mexican

801
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 3: government for just like, you know, I believe there's been

802
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,959
Speaker 3: one medalist in Mexico and boxing in the Olympics since

803
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 3: two thousand. It was a bronze medal. So him kind

804
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 3: of being so outspoken in this way, I am a

805
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 3: little bit surprised that now was the time for him

806
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 3: to do the big homecoming thing. Maybe it just worked

807
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 3: out because you know, Canelo doesn't dodge mandatories. He collects

808
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 3: the belts, but he you know, protects him too for

809
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 3: the most part. He had to get it done, just

810
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 3: like when he fought Avney Yolderham in that in the

811
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 3: Miami Stadium a couple of years back. But I am

812
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 3: I'm shocked that, like everyone's happy and all making good,

813
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 3: yet they're not fully happy, you know what I mean.

814
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 3: You still see these snide comments come out of them,

815
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 3: not like I think they're kidnapping.

816
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: But there is a difference too though, like we shouldn't

817
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: we should say it, Like what you're describing is Canelo

818
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: Alvarez is feud with the Mexican sporting establishment. Basically the

819
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 2: government plays a role in that, but it starts essentially

820
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 2: there in general, and that has led to I think

821
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: what you're trying to say is that has led to

822
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 2: in certain ways tension with the Mexican people because it

823
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: put it's put him at a distance in terms of

824
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 2: being a representative for Mexico. To your point, hate went

825
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: pro early instead of taking an Olympic route or whatever

826
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 2: the case may be, not having fights there. You name it.

827
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: All the different ways in which impacts his relationship to

828
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: the to the fans, all the more reason to go

829
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: take a big fight to the fans, right, all the

830
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 2: more reason. You know, his last mandatory was the Turkish guy.

831
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 2: I think you mentioned Odne Gilderham. It was in Miami.

832
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: It was in Miami, which obviously was a heavy Latino population,

833
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 2: but it's not the same thing. I think he was like, listen,

834
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: if I'm gonna have one of these, you know, the

835
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 2: guys loaded with generational wealth beyond our wildest imagination. You know,

836
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: if I understand him taking a pay cut, I understand

837
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 2: him wanting to be more of that symbol for the

838
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 2: Mexican people to have that better relationship with him, and

839
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 2: then then to do this kind of thing to get that.

840
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: Some guys don't want it, some do. Some guys get

841
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: it more easily. Some guys have to work for it.

842
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 2: I think Canela felt like it was a good time,

843
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 2: if not now when and yeah, pull the trigger.

844
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 3: I mean they ended up bringing out his entire family,

845
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 3: all of his brothers that fought, and had them all

846
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: on the stage at the press conference. So there does

847
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 3: seem to be some of this like nationalism, let's have

848
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 3: our hero come back and fully embrace him, the talk

849
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 3: about it future though, Luke, there was, if you look closely,

850
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 3: a lot of that chatter. And as much as we

851
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 3: may want Canela Alveras to come back to the one

852
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty eight pound division and specifically welcome David

853
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 3: Benavidez this fall, all signs as of right now are

854
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 3: pointing to his desire instead to rematch Dimitri Beevall. So

855
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 3: I did a bunch of research on this. It was

856
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 3: back in April when Beevall came out and essentially said,

857
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 3: I'll rematch him later this year, but I'm not going

858
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 3: to wait around for him. I'm not going to do

859
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 3: it on his terms. He had the rematch clause, he

860
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 3: didn't want to fight me right away, so you know,

861
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 3: essentially he's not calling the shots now. This is not

862
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 3: like Beevall to talk this aggressively but what he was

863
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 3: trying to say was if they do or rematch this fall,

864
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: he says, it has to be at one sixty eight.

865
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: Luke.

866
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 3: He said for years he could make super middleweight. He's

867
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 3: offered it in the past. But here's what's interesting. Canelo

868
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 3: was asked about that this week leading up to the fight.

869
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 3: He said, I will absolutely not fight him at one

870
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 3: sixty eight. It has to be same weight, same division,

871
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 3: preferably same arie. You know they fought in t Mobile

872
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 3: last year. Canello literally wants to run this back under

873
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 3: those same terms. Now. To remind you, it was one fifteen,

874
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 3: one to thirteen on all three scorecards, but everybody that

875
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 3: watched that fight had it between eleven rounds to one

876
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 3: and like nine rounds to three for Bevall, like he

877
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 3: handled him right, He's he handled him. And while I

878
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 3: respect Canelo's you know, true competitor and gumptionin and even

879
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 3: though I've towed the line, Luke, in reality, you can

880
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 3: never say he's ducking by Benavidez when he's going up

881
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 3: to fight Bevall. You know, one way class higher, he says,

882
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 3: and he used a lot of f words this week.

883
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 3: He said, I won't fight him a sixty eight because

884
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 3: one's gonna give me any fucking credit for it. You remember, Luke,

885
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 3: when Andre Ward was super middleweight champion and Chad Dawson

886
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,479
Speaker 3: was light heavyweight champion, and Chad said, dude, I could

887
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 3: make sixty eight. I'll come down and fight you. There

888
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 3: Ward said, okay, do it. Ward knocked him out. Everybody

889
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 3: tried to take away the credit from Ward for that win,

890
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 3: even though it wis Chad who said he'd come down.

891
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 3: So I get this from from Canelo. Bevall would only

892
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 3: want to down and wait, basically to try to become

893
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 3: the undispeted champion in the second way class. But dude,

894
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 3: Canelo calls these shots like truly and really, like I'd

895
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 3: rather him want to go in the direction of Benavidez,

896
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 3: but he wants this. And you know, Luke, he's finally

897
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: admitting now that he wasn't one hundred percent focused heading

898
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 3: into the bee Ball fight. And I'm wondering if for

899
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 3: the first time some of the celebrity Canelo took over

900
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 3: him because there was a boxing scene. Did an interview

901
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 3: with Oscar Valdez last week, who's in the same campus

902
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 3: Canelo and Valdez said I've never seen Canelo more hungry

903
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 3: than right now because he wants the b Ball rematch

904
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: so bad. And then they asked him, well, what happened

905
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 3: the first time, and he said, Canelo just wasn't his

906
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 3: focus in the gym. He was golfing a lot, he

907
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 3: was handling a lot of his business obligations on the side,

908
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 3: and Luke I did a little bit even deeper research.

909
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 3: Canelo said he's going to become a pro golfer when

910
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 3: he retires from boxing. Like, this is a fake. So,

911
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 3: you know, I wonder if that was it. I wonder

912
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 3: if that was part of it, but I don't think

913
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 3: that was most or all of it. So this is

914
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 3: still bill. It's like we got this John rudderfi but

915
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 3: no one's talking about the actual fight. It feels like

916
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 3: if Canela wants to make Bvall two happen, it will happen.

917
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 3: There's still a big hill of the climb. Even if

918
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 3: those scores were closer than they should have been, still a.

919
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 2: Big you know what accept What occurs to me is

920
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 2: that moment against Caleb Plant that Canelo had. We were

921
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: there for that that November of twenty one. I think

922
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 2: it was something like that the November of twenty one,

923
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 2: when he thought he unified one sixty eight and undisputed,

924
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: he became the belt holder for all four. I guess

925
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: the thing is, this is why you could be like, well,

926
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 2: I guess he had a hangover fight against Bival. The

927
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: thing that complicates the whole narrative is that weird ass

928
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 2: not bad triplegy performance, but definitely not definitely not great.

929
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: So it actually leads me to want to ask you

930
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: a question, what would you consider success here? Because you

931
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: mentioned the Rocky Fielding fight? What did he dust him

932
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: off inside of two rounds or something three at most?

933
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: A yeah, it was a walk off, like it was nothing.

934
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: Is that what he has to do here?

935
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 3: If he's you know, if he's still the same guy

936
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 3: or still close to it, it's it's what he might

937
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 3: end up doing anyway, not as early as Fielding, because

938
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 3: Fielding seemed once those body shots compounded to just kind

939
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 3: of be like, all right, I'm I'm not I'm done,

940
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 3: but you know I'm here for the slaughter. More or less.

941
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 3: Rider I think will be durable. He'll try to move

942
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 3: as much as he's trying to get inside on you.

943
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 3: He's trying to use footwork. It's just you know, Canelo

944
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 3: is way too skilled. So Canelo I think, does need

945
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 3: to make a statement for the public. Like it's not necessary, right,

946
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 3: but like this guy is a true competitor and and

947
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 3: and you know it's like, give the all the respect

948
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 3: in the world for him. God, he's trying to run

949
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 3: back this beev All remeats that nobody really wants. I mean,

950
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 3: people all is still hoping to get Better Beef for

951
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 3: all four titles at some point later this year.

952
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 2: Didn't top rank win the Smith.

953
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, better Beef has Smith mandatory title defense first up?

954
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 2: Have you eight?

955
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 3: But uh yeah, you know, look, I I wonder if

956
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 3: if this is that statement comeback win for him. I

957
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 3: think he does need a stoppage to firmly put the

958
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 3: exclamation point in it. But I mean, it's not that

959
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 3: he was not competitive against Bevall, It's just that that's

960
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 3: where the size caught up with him. He can beat

961
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 3: other light heavyweights. Bevall and Better Beaver were just on

962
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 3: a different level skill wise along with their power. And

963
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 3: you know, we thought Bevall was a boring robot. Sometimes

964
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 3: he was not a boring robot in that fight. And

965
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 3: that's why he won it. So, man, I wish I

966
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: could just call up Sawool and be like, man, I

967
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 3: know you got big balls. I know you want big challenges,

968
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 3: But sixty eight at showtime right now is hot fire man,

969
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

970
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, Let me ask you this

971
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 2: is he? Because Benavidez is not a Mexican national correct,

972
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 2: like maybe he's govern in Phoenix.

973
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 3: His dad's Mexican, his mom is Ecuadorian and something out Dominican.

974
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 2: Sorry, okay, all right, so I don't know if he's

975
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 2: the Mexican national ways that Canelo is. Let me put

976
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: on my tenfoil hat. Yes, do you think Canelo is

977
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: going to Mexico now in anticipation that a Benavidez fight

978
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 2: will happen, and he's planting these seeds to like win

979
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 2: out now, like obviously he's gonna have more fans of Benavidez.

980
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 2: But you know I love this, like like prime the

981
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 2: Mexican fan pump in anticipation of an eventual showdown with Benavidez.

982
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 3: So you're saying Canelo's actually so uber competitive that when

983
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 3: Ben yeah, he heard, of course he heard all those

984
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 3: cheers that Benavide's got in Las Vegas against Kayleb plant Luke.

985
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 3: They lifted him up like he was their their hero,

986
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 3: like he was.

987
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 2: You know what. I gotta be honest. I gotta be honest.

988
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 2: I had been to Benavidez fights before. I had not

989
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 2: been to a crowd like that for him. That opened

990
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: my eyes, Like they love David Benavidez.

991
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 3: We lived up to it from the way in, from

992
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 3: how nasty he was acting in the interviews, like through

993
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 3: the fight, like he lived up to everything they would want.

994
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: So that's a great point. What if he's getting ahead

995
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 3: of it of going, oh, you think you got Mexico,

996
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 3: Now I'll show you who's got Mexico. Let's go out

997
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 3: there and knock out Rider and Guadalajara potentially, we'll see

998
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 3: what happened, and then let's yeah, go through Bevall win

999
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 3: or lose, I mean win or lose. Coming back down

1000
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 3: to sixty eight, he would have to commit himself here

1001
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 3: full time to beat the names that are piling up underneath,

1002
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 3: meaning Canelo against probably you know, maybe Jamal Charlowe and

1003
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 3: all you know and everybody else there. So maybe it's

1004
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 3: let's get this light heavyweight thing done with. I do

1005
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 3: think I can beat him. I mean, you know we're

1006
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 3: not gonna count that against him. I guess, Luke, he did,

1007
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 3: wait Glove can make two years. Wait two years though,

1008
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 3: never forget that he one hundred percent make Glove can

1009
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 3: wait and get a little bit older. This would be

1010
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 3: a scenario where Benavitez might get You think Benavidez gets

1011
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 3: better with time, like you don't want to wait too long, right?

1012
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 2: I think he's I you know, he made me e

1013
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 2: caro in that fight. I should have known better anyway,

1014
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 2: But dude, I think he's ready to start moving downhill

1015
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 2: on people. I really do that fight against Caleb. Dude,

1016
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 2: Caleb Plant is a very good, very good fighter, and

1017
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 2: he had his moments in that fight. But Benavitez was,

1018
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: to my my favorite description BC, he was fucking inevitable

1019
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 2: that night. He was inevitable that night. And I feel

1020
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 2: like he's.

1021
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 3: Dude, just like Margarito versus Codo in that way where

1022
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, Codo in that first fight, hand

1023
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 3: wraps the side, loaded, hand wraps a side. Potentially you know,

1024
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 3: Codo was looking great early on, but it was like, dude,

1025
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 3: Margarito's fucking calming the Boogeyman is down the hall and

1026
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 3: he's he's walking very slowly and he'll be here, damn.

1027
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 3: But then again, maybe Morella up sets Benefitez like this

1028
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 3: is like this is where it's at one sixty eight

1029
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 3: right now, So uh love it? Anything else you're looking

1030
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 3: forward to? I mean, we got Julio Sayesar Martinez in

1031
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 3: the co main event defending his one fifteen title against

1032
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 3: Ronald Bautista. That's always fun. Alexander Vosdik is back, Luke.

1033
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 3: He had retired with a brain injury. Unfortunately when Better

1034
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,479
Speaker 3: beave unified titles that time, say.

1035
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: After Better, we've whooped up, whooped up on him.

1036
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 3: I thought he was done, but it was his first loss.

1037
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 3: He walked away. He believes he's healthy enough to come back.

1038
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 3: But uh, if Canelo wins by decision, are you going

1039
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 3: to criticize him after Maybe?

1040
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, I mean.

1041
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 3: Not criticized, but just tell him he's no longer that dude, right,

1042
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 3: there's a difference there.

1043
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, it doesn't mean that if he stops him

1044
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 2: that you can say, oh, he's still right on top.

1045
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 2: It wouldn't necessarily tell you. But if you like again,

1046
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 2: you could win a wide decision and not struggle. But

1047
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 2: if if Ryder looks like if Ryder is hanging in

1048
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 2: there and Canelo is having difficulty putting him away, I

1049
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: think there's some serious questions to be asked at that point.

1050
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, dude, Canelo is such a competitor, though, I

1051
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 3: do think that the ceiling will catch up with him

1052
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 3: in terms of age and mileage sooner than we realized,

1053
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 3: because again, he turned pro at fifteen. He's said so early, Yeah,

1054
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 3: so many big fights, but like that's going to catch

1055
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 3: up sooner than later. But dude, he's only thirty two. Man,

1056
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 3: he's such a competitor. He's going to come out and

1057
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 3: be Canelo of old. I'm telling y'all, all right, here

1058
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 3: we go.

1059
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 2: I think the bit of all thing is a giant

1060
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 2: waste of time, but what are you going to do?

1061
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 3: I agree with you on that, but it would be

1062
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 3: another incredible feather if he can pull that off. Let's

1063
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 3: go to topic three, which is a quick hitter series

1064
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 3: Luke of recent headlines, how about this Chris Cyborg officially

1065
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 3: resigning with Bellator. She holds the women's featherweight championship. The

1066
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 3: press release was, you know, filled with a lot of

1067
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 3: greatest female fighter of all time talk, and I'll never

1068
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 3: again Scott Coker when he presents her as that, even

1069
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 3: though she was stopped by Manda Nunas. Look, this is

1070
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 3: not a huge news from the standpoint of like, oh,

1071
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 3: who's she gonna fight? Now? She's been here, she's done that.

1072
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 3: I just wonder if, like any of that PFL news

1073
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 3: is true. Okay, you got her locked up, maybe we

1074
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 3: get Kayla involved, you know what I mean?

1075
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't, right, It's like it's like, Okay, Bellator

1076
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 2: resigned her, PFL didn't. But if PFL is just gonna

1077
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 2: buy Belatoor, who gives a shit? Right, So hard to

1078
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 2: know exactly what that means. Again, this seems like the

1079
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 2: very final chapter of her career. I doubt she's got

1080
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 2: a whole lot of longevity beyond this. She's not quite competitive, obviously,

1081
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 2: but in the space that she's in anyway, But you know,

1082
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: you don't have a whole lot of cyborg fights left.

1083
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 2: I'm guessing she's going to fill out this contract and

1084
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 2: then probably call it a day.

1085
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 3: Thirty seven years old. But yet, man, you look up

1086
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 3: and down her run dude twenty six and two. Of course,

1087
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 3: lost that per first pro fight, which is such a

1088
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 3: cool footnote on there. But I mean, Luke, she wasn't

1089
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 3: before nine to eleven, but from a female stamp, which

1090
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 3: is always our measuring stick on like, damn, you've been

1091
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 3: around forever. But she did turn pro in two thousand

1092
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 3: and five. So I mean, you know what did women's

1093
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 3: MMA look like in two thousand and five, Luke?

1094
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:43,720
Speaker 2: I was twenty five years old, Yeah, and I looked

1095
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 2: utterly different then. I look now, I looked much better,

1096
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 2: not great, but better than that.

1097
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, but mentally you were unhappy and broken, Luke.

1098
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 2: You know, yes, that's true. Twenty five I was in

1099
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 2: a really bad place. That's true.

1100
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, weren't. Weren't we all to be very fair women's boxing? Hey,

1101
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 3: Amanda Serrano is gonna defend her. I believe featherweight world titles.

1102
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 3: I could be wrong on the weight class here, but

1103
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 3: here's the deal. It's gonna be in the Jake Paul

1104
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 3: Nate Diaz August. This is a bad matchup. It's Heather Hardy,

1105
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 3: and this is no disrespect to Hardy. She's forty one

1106
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 3: years old, Luke, She's been around and always fights hard.

1107
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 3: She even had that run in Bellator. The two of

1108
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 3: them fought back, you know, four or five years ago,

1109
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 3: and man Serrano handled her with I mean ease. Hardy's

1110
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,240
Speaker 3: pasted it. I mean, even though her record's still shiny,

1111
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 3: she's been a lot of close fights that could have

1112
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 3: gone either way. They're putting this as a pay per

1113
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 3: view cold like, I know, it's just another sort of

1114
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 3: stay busy before we finally do the Katie Taylor rematch

1115
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 3: that got announced and then pulled back. Dude, an injury.

1116
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 3: But you can't love this, you can't.

1117
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 2: I hate this. It's like, dude, I had Heather Hardy

1118
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 2: in studio once, just a totally nice lady from New York,

1119
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 2: just a mom trying to make it in the world.

1120
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: Couldn't be more cool, couldn't be more down to earth.

1121
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 2: What a lady. I'm telling you, she's awesome. Mantas Serrano

1122
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 2: is gonna fucking run over her. Man Like, yeah, I

1123
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: hate this matchup, dude, Like, they're very different levels. Even

1124
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: if Hardy was in her prime, they're very different levels

1125
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 2: at to the fact she's forty one.

1126
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 3: Like, no, man, it seems just to stay busy, get

1127
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 3: a name and no, I mean, you're not gonna tell

1128
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 3: another hearty not to take that payday when in the

1129
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 3: women's game, Luke, especially in a long career like that,

1130
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:30,720
Speaker 3: they are few and between.

1131
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 2: And you know, she's probably been underpaid the vast majority

1132
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 2: of her career anyway, I get.

1133
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 3: It, viciously underpaid. Yeah, I mean Serrano too. That's why

1134
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 3: the Jake Paul business marriage was was so important and

1135
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 3: so fruitful to her. So you know, I don't I

1136
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 3: don't knock her on this regard necessarily, but I mean, look,

1137
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 3: you want to see that Katie fight. But dude, Katie

1138
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 3: Taylor's got that big fight coming up at one at one.

1139
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 3: So Katie Taylor has all four belts at one thirty five,

1140
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 3: She's moving up to one forty and fighting the undisputed

1141
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 3: champion there, Luke, So interesting time here in the women's game.

1142
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 3: You know who's got who loves that? Luke, Ariel loves

1143
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 3: loves Katie Taylor loves he does, Oh my god, like

1144
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 3: like like me and and hot dogs, Luke. Okay, I'm

1145
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 3: talking about like like your boy BC and you know

1146
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 3: Cinemax in nineteen ninety four, Okay, Luke.

1147
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 2: Like they're gonna be wrong. I mean, Katie Taylor is

1148
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 2: a great athlete to cheer for, But what is the

1149
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 2: what is the genesis of his admiration?

1150
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 3: Do you know her legendary stature as a hero to

1151
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,240
Speaker 3: the country and as a as you know, as maybe

1152
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 3: the greatest female boxer of all time.

1153
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough. I definitely have a healthy respect for her.

1154
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 2: I mean that Amanda's absurd.

1155
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 3: You know, she's done nothing but be everything. I mean,

1156
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 3: it's amazing. She came in with so much pressure and

1157
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 3: hype and you know, the country behind her and the

1158
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 3: the Olympic success. I mean, she's awesome. She's the hardest

1159
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 3: worker in the room. It's not it's not that man.

1160
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 3: You know, she just in Connecticut very quietly, Luke and

1161
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:02,919
Speaker 3: I forget about that all.

1162
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:03,720
Speaker 2: Does she really?

1163
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 3: Yes? Yes? Maybe imagine me Katie and Glover walking do it?

1164
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 2: No, No, you ruined it. It's you, Katie Glover and Apathy.

1165
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: You keep forgetting Apathy shouts to Apathy out there.

1166
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 3: I see, Yeah, maybe he needs maybe we need to

1167
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 3: run into each other at the Cumbland Farms, Me and Apathy.

1168
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,479
Speaker 2: You know, as as App said, app holds it down

1169
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 2: like magneto on a metal floor. How about that?

1170
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 3: Huh? Wow, them are hot bars. Wow. Yeah. Uh hey, look,

1171
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,479
Speaker 3: Manny Pacio might be boxing again sooner than you think.

1172
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 3: Why because he lost a court injunction against his manager's

1173
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:48,720
Speaker 3: Paradigm Sports, which also represents Connor McGregor, and was ordered

1174
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 3: in court to pay a five point one million dollars

1175
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 3: settlement in what originally was a breach of What am

1176
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 3: I saying here, preach of breach of peace? Lucas said,

1177
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 3: no breach of contract. That's what I'm trying to say.

1178
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 3: That was the accusation on the initial lawsuit. But tough

1179
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,720
Speaker 3: l here, Luke. You see Connor was kind of victory

1180
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 3: lapping and then he was like, oh yeah, by the way,

1181
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 3: artem lobob, I'll take your house suit. I mean like,

1182
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 3: all right, dude, okay, all right, you know.

1183
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 2: I didn't see that. Did he really do that on

1184
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 2: social media?

1185
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 3: Dude? Connor is vicious in court, Luke apparently.

1186
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 2: All right, Well, uh yeah, I don't know what to

1187
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 2: say for old Manny. Do these guys? Man? They I

1188
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 2: paid very little attention to the lawsuit. I think the

1189
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 2: result of somewhat surprising. But the the analysis I have

1190
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 2: is this BC these guys between lawsuits and wives man,

1191
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 2: these boxers just give away their money, do they not?

1192
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,280
Speaker 2: They just give it away?

1193
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I mean yeah, most pro most young pro athletes.

1194
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 2: When I say wives, hold on, let me let me

1195
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 2: say it a little bit differently. Divorces is what really

1196
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 2: what I mean between divorces and lawsuits, they just give money.

1197
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 2: They just give all their money away. Let just give

1198
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 2: it away.

1199
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 3: I mean, Luke, we talked about how broke we were

1200
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 3: as people at age twenty five, and I'm not even

1201
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 3: talking about financials, although I was dead broken there too, Luke,

1202
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 3: And you know we were absolute Uh yeah, I forget, Luke.

1203
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 3: I fell off. I fell off, you know, I fell

1204
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 3: off the you know, the car ran off the road

1205
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 3: for a second.

1206
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 2: There was is this train coming off the tracks here already?

1207
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah. We had a good run though. All Right, anyway, Luke,

1208
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 3: let's keep it rolling here, let's move on. Okay, But

1209
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 3: Austin Vanderford is moving on Luke the eleven and two

1210
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 3: middleweight belter two ninety seven. On June sixteenth, He'll be

1211
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,959
Speaker 3: taking on Imam shafi Aliev, who is nine and oh

1212
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 3: is that a tough matchup? Do you know anything about

1213
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 3: that guy?

1214
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 2: Yeah? That Dakistani dude. He had one fight in Beltur.

1215
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 2: You can go see it online. Fuck that kid up.

1216
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 2: I forget his name. Some American kid fucked him up

1217
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 2: real good. He looks like he's an absolute hammer. I think, off,

1218
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 2: I think, I think think I looked him up this week,

1219
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: and when I watch that fight, I think he's got

1220
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 2: six stoppages of those nine wins, Like just another one

1221
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: of those dudes in the old DC bag O hammers.

1222
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 2: You can chuck in e mom chuffee. Al Aliev in

1223
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 2: that in that list as well.

1224
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 3: Dude, that's a badass name when you say it like

1225
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 3: that too.

1226
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 2: Luke, Yeah, e mom chuffee.

1227
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1228
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you some of those Islamic names, they're regal, man,

1229
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 2: they're regal names.

1230
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 3: Uh. Second straight defeat for Vanderford came in April of

1231
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 3: last year a t KO in round one against Aaron

1232
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 3: Aaron Jeffrey Luke, this is a coming off of that

1233
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 3: that Musase, very early TKO defeat. This is like kind

1234
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 3: of must win for U for old throat tat here right.

1235
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he he fell apart against Musase and you're like, okay,

1236
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 2: well that was just he got maybe he got injured,

1237
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 2: too much, too soon, whatever, And then you thought, Okay,

1238
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 2: he's gonna rebound against this Canadian dude with the mullet. No, no,

1239
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 2: he wasn't. Actually he didn't do that at all. And

1240
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 2: so now you're like, well, well where are you. Well,

1241
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 2: Bellatore is like, let's find out. Let's find out exactly

1242
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 2: where you are. Not that beating him as some walk

1243
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 2: in the park, but like, if he is that guy,

1244
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 2: he should be able to get it done. But if not,

1245
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 2: Aliev is gonna he's gonna he's gonna have him. He's

1246
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 2: gonna have him eat him for breakfast.

1247
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, he's gonna put him on the grill, Luke,

1248
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Look, what's the best thing

1249
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 3: you do on a grill these days?

1250
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? My stakes are pretty good. They are pretty good.

1251
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 3: All right, all right, that sounds badass. Look, if you

1252
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 3: got a job, if you got nine to nine cents,

1253
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 3: you can check out UFC Jacksonville on June twenty fourth,

1254
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 3: where they've added Neil Magne versus Phil Rowe. You into that.

1255
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 2: Hey, I think these two guys are tied for the

1256
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 2: longest reach in the welter weight weight class and they're

1257
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 2: fighting each other. So that's fun.

1258
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great. Hamzat Chimaya. If Luke has heard that

1259
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 3: Mr Ustman would like to fight him so that he

1260
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 3: can get himself back into the title pick.

1261
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 2: Dana spoke about this today. What did he say, Well,

1262
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:11,919
Speaker 2: excuse me yesterday. Uh he said that, yes, they are

1263
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 2: interested in doing an Usman and s Chemaiah fight, but

1264
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 2: mvs excuse me. Usman's got to go to one NY five.

1265
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 2: They're not going to do it right now.

1266
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 3: He did say he would, well, they would the other day.

1267
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 3: So Chamayav's tweet was someone needs to be poisoned for retirement.

1268
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 3: Apparently that was in Russian Luke, but translated.

1269
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 2: So that sounds like someone's Google machine translated that. What

1270
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 2: the fuck does that? Even?

1271
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 3: That was a Mike. That was our producer, Mikey. He

1272
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 3: did the translation for Oh he did.

1273
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 2: He actually literally did use Google Translate.

1274
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 3: So I could hear what that ship was that they

1275
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 3: were that they were speaking right there. Look, that's actually

1276
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 3: a badass fight at middleweight. I'd preferred to welterweight, but

1277
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 3: that's badass, dude.

1278
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 2: I'd be happy to take it at walterweight. I'd be

1279
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 2: happy to take it lesser but still happy at at

1280
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 2: one five. Sure, just make it.

1281
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 3: You don't need a title at all. That's a pay

1282
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 3: per view main event, true or false? It is it is, dude,

1283
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 3: that's that.

1284
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 2: It could be. It could be.

1285
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 3: I could be that, and I'll pay for anything.

1286
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 2: Luke, how do you get the pay per views? I

1287
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 2: pay for those?

1288
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 3: I expense them.

1289
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 2: Do you expend them like a bitch?

1290
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 3: Yeah? With my court card? Yeah? Yeah, take that all right?

1291
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 3: Uh Luke. Finally, Uh Francis, you know he might go

1292
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 3: to the PFL. We'll see if that rumor or that

1293
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 3: report you know, continues to grow wings. But he may

1294
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 3: have an opponent waiting for him there that we did

1295
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 3: not mention, Luke. Why because your boy Vaykvaljo hasn't been

1296
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 3: around much lately, isn't. He popped up on Twitter and

1297
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 3: he said this, Hi, Francis and Ghanu, I shock the

1298
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 3: world when I beat Fador, also when I beat Kane

1299
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 3: and I became undisputed UFC Heavyweight Champion. You have a

1300
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 3: lot of hole in your game. Let's go at PFL.

1301
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 3: Only one way to find out PFL smart cage. Look,

1302
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 3: keep look, he typed the whole thing and broken English

1303
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 3: but then was like old on, meet me in the

1304
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 3: U in the PFL smart cage. Damn right, dude, what

1305
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 3: a guy.

1306
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 2: Right, just they're just gonna fly that flag until everyone

1307
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 2: pretends that the Emperor is wearing clothes. You know what

1308
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

1309
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 3: Wow, that was great. I mean the for the education

1310
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 3: of that damn cage, Luke. Wow, uh you mentioned for

1311
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 3: Daydum's age forty five years old. Oh, all loved the guy.

1312
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 3: We all loved the guy, Luke. He did leave his

1313
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 3: UFC run in July of twenty twenty by submitting Alexander

1314
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 3: Gustuson but that was a weird fight. But then he

1315
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 3: made that PFL debut in May of twenty twenty one

1316
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 3: against Henn and Fajita turned out to be a no contest,

1317
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 3: originally a TKO win though for for Hada, but Luke

1318
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 3: for Doom was like what was he doing? Deemed that

1319
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 3: he probably would never fight again after that, right, I.

1320
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 2: Can't remember the timeline, but then it was like you

1321
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 2: won't see him, and then we did see him and

1322
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 2: he looks fucking juiced to.

1323
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 3: The Gilding tours. Can we go to that picture of

1324
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 3: the before and after?

1325
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean guys, I got you can take all

1326
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 2: the testo stack you want, and God bless you to

1327
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 2: do something for you. It ain't gonna do this. It

1328
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 2: ain't gonna do this. There's not enough chicken and broccoli

1329
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 2: and cold plunges and fasting and intermittent fasting and saunas

1330
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 2: to look like that. You need some help. And by

1331
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 2: the way, I want to be very clear, not hating

1332
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 2: even a little bit because he's jealousy so ripped.

1333
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 3: Oh my god, dude, put I.

1334
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 2: Want to point out, dude, we're forty three. You look pink.

1335
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 2: We both look like we're melting.

1336
01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 3: We just absolutely terrible a month all right, I'm turning four.

1337
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 2: We should put you at forty five on one side,

1338
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 2: and then this motherfucker forty five on the other. You're

1339
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 2: not even the same species, neither am I. I'm in

1340
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 2: the same boat as you.

1341
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 3: I mean, we're sorry, sure or false. He did look

1342
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 3: like shit the last few years physically, to be fair.

1343
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 2: Terrible, terrible, and also I don't know how much whatever. Again,

1344
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 2: I want to be clear, I don't even give a

1345
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 2: fuck what he's on like. It doesn't mean good for him,

1346
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 2: but I don't know. Here's the other part too. At

1347
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 2: forty five, he's taken a lot of damage. You know,

1348
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, like fighting fighting Francis. Yeah, you might

1349
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 2: need a little of that in reserve. I don't know

1350
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 2: how that's gonna go.

1351
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 3: So it's not gonna go. Well out of clothes on

1352
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 3: here because you know, if we're doom offering to fight Francis,

1353
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 3: who again may or may not. Look we hear it's close, right,

1354
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 3: I mean, this is probably happening. Would you say Francis

1355
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 3: to be probably yeah, probably. Well, Daniel Cormier, you know,

1356
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 3: he works on ESPN during the day, Luke, he does

1357
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 3: d C and RC with Ryan Clark. They brought up

1358
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 3: the topic of Anganu, and DC said it sucks because

1359
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 3: Francis was the man and he leaves and now it

1360
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 3: seems like the options are very limited. To me, it's

1361
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 3: the same thing as Lamar Jackson. But ultimately he ends

1362
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 3: up back with the Ravens. I believe that's what Francis

1363
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 3: should do. Francis and gan who should just come back

1364
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 3: because the reality is this. The money that he was offered,

1365
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 3: I've heard was a very lucrative number. If he comes

1366
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,439
Speaker 3: back to the UFC, nothing changes. He walks right back

1367
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 3: into being in the heavyweight title picture, fighting for the

1368
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 3: championship and getting paid at that championship level. End quote,

1369
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 3: your holiday gift is in the mail, sir, all hail zufah. Luke,

1370
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 3: what don't we do? I mean what really?

1371
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 2: I mean, guy who God blessed ThEC has been an

1372
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 2: honor to cover his career. See holy shit. I mean

1373
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 2: if dude, he's gonna get ESPN tattooed on his ball

1374
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 2: bag at this point.

1375
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, Luke and God's gonna end up

1376
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 3: back on the ESPN. He's right on PFL, which is fine,

1377
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 3: like you're allowed to cover that. But why is it

1378
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 3: just automatically like, oh yeah, he screwed up. He should

1379
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 3: be back here fighting for the money. I mean, Louke,

1380
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 3: true or false? Did I read this or did I

1381
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 3: make this up? That part of this Francis deal offer

1382
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 3: that you have seeded that Francis walked away from. He

1383
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 3: was only gonna make the money that one time against Jones,

1384
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 3: and if he lost, he was going to go back

1385
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 3: down to like what he was making before.

1386
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 2: Right, which is how a lot of UFC contracts work.

1387
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 2: I mean, how much they reduced to will change depending

1388
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 2: on the fighter circumstances, but you'll see that there are

1389
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 2: escalating clauses for you know, consecutive wins in many cases.

1390
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 2: And now again, Demetrius Johnson might have been different at the

1391
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 2: time because he wasn't a pay per view fighter, So

1392
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 2: I don't know how that works, but yes, a lot

1393
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 2: of times what you'll see is if someone has a

1394
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 2: three fight deal, Let's say there's escalating amounts for wins,

1395
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 2: but the losses retreat you back to kind of a

1396
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 2: base level norm in the In those conflicts, I.

1397
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 3: Get being skeptical of Nganu and whether he ends up

1398
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 3: making this move feel like it was worth it under

1399
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 3: not his own parameters, but like the parameters of the

1400
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 3: court of public opinion, Like we can't grade it until

1401
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 3: it's over, so let's see what happens. But if we

1402
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 3: know that he's has a chance here to sign a

1403
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,439
Speaker 3: very lucrative PFL deal and then if it works out

1404
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 3: contract wise can also seek a boxing fight that could

1405
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 3: like could not only change his life financially in one night,

1406
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 3: but like it could actually be for the heavyweight championship

1407
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 3: of the world in boxing. If they end up doing

1408
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 3: it that way. I don't know how you can just

1409
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 3: be like, yeah, he's he fed up, right, now come

1410
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 3: back to the UFC. I want John Jones versus and

1411
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 3: Ganda more than anyone. But look, we can also knowing

1412
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 3: Lee counter and say so did Francis, and he was

1413
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 3: willing to do it for a while, but John didn't

1414
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:42,919
Speaker 3: come back until frances was assuredly gone. That part needs

1415
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 3: to be mentioned more often. I think, right, it didn't

1416
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 3: seem like a lot.

1417
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 2: This entire ordeal is just so embarrassing for the entire sport.

1418
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 2: People pretending Francis didn't have offers outside of UOC, people

1419
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 2: knowingly telling you of the destruction of this process. And

1420
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 2: it's absolutely to arrible situation when nothing could be from

1421
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 2: what we actually know with what's vetted. What's vetted seems

1422
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 2: like the actual opposite is true. We don't know what

1423
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 2: his boxing fortunes are going to be, We don't know

1424
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 2: this is all ultimately going to turn out. But this dude,

1425
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 2: this lust for you know what's so funny to meb See,

1426
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 2: it is a love of the orderliness of monopoly, right,

1427
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 2: that's what they love because if you have everyone playing

1428
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 2: ball with the monopoly, if you're the consumer, everything gets

1429
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 2: fed to you right on time. Once a week I

1430
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 2: can turn on my TV, and then once a month

1431
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 2: they get the Rolet special one and it's just this

1432
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 2: continuous thing. Francis's real crime is that he disrupted that

1433
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 2: for people in the heavyweight division. He got in the

1434
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 2: way of that, and that's why they're mad at him.

1435
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 3: He's the actor that left their favorite show over a

1436
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 3: contract to do a movie and isn't coming back and

1437
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 3: they had to write him out of the storyline. I

1438
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 3: get that part. It's true. That's what it is, Luke.

1439
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 3: It's worse than the WWE world. By the way. It's

1440
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 3: one of the major reasons I was happy to get

1441
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,480
Speaker 3: out at the time I did. From a media standpoint

1442
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 3: is everyone there is just like I don't care if

1443
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 3: our day to day with ww sucks. This is what

1444
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 3: we know. So if it's AW or anybody else piping up,

1445
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 3: they you know, they cheer for that to fail, Luke,

1446
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 3: because they love their own misery, you know. And people

1447
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 3: could say that about boxing, and I get it. That's

1448
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 3: just the area that the needle's in too deep. I

1449
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 3: can't go anywhere, you know what I mean that, you know,

1450
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 3: I don't want to go anywhere you know what I mean.

1451
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 3: We you know, we threw up in our mouths and

1452
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 3: then need it, Luke, and sometimes it's good, you know

1453
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 3: what I mean. That's what we do here. Hey, let's

1454
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 3: go to Okay, bet you ready for this.

1455
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 2: Let's do it. Let's do it. Yeah, we gotta move

1456
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 2: it along.

1457
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 3: All right. Luke and I go head to head each

1458
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 3: week five picks five different categories. Last week, Luke Thomas

1459
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 3: went three and two overall. Oh boy, your boy BC

1460
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 3: just fell apart again one in four something I'm not

1461
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 3: proud of.

1462
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 2: I gotta say, you're I gotta say, here's BC week

1463
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 2: to week one, week five and oh next week one

1464
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 2: in four? Like did you never hit three and two?

1465
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 2: You're always like one extreme or the other.

1466
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 3: Luke's total now twenty eight, twenty five and one. BC

1467
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 3: is twenty two and thirty two. I'm essentially six games

1468
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 3: back more or less.

1469
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you are, if you are the Pacers and

1470
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 2: I'm the Wizards, not even I'm more like, I guess

1471
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:21,719
Speaker 2: I don't know Hawks or something.

1472
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. You cut it you yah nah whatever.

1473
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,560
Speaker 3: Look I watched I started watching the NBA playoffs, and

1474
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 3: I'm so glad I didn't wait till the finals. It's

1475
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 3: awesome again. Yeah, I'm loving it. I'm back. Okay, I'm back.

1476
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,679
Speaker 2: I'm back. Warriors, Lakers, I'm in. I'm all in.

1477
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. And the Celtics against the Sixers is even though

1478
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,719
Speaker 3: it was a blowout yesterday, that's gonna be a good

1479
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 3: that's a grimy one too, man. I like rin series.

1480
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 3: All right, I want to see men bang, Luke, all right,

1481
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 3: let's go.

1482
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 2: To these I think Tooky's about to come home. Let

1483
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 2: me lock my.

1484
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 3: Door, uh Noluke, let me put up the put up

1485
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 3: the padlock.

1486
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 2: Please, God, let's do this fucking show. Let's do the

1487
01:10:59,120 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 2: fucking show.

1488
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:00,799
Speaker 3: All right, you go on first.

1489
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 2: I will go first. We want to do main card picks,

1490
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 2: assuming main event picks, and we are gonna do uh

1491
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 2: of course this UFC card, even though there is a

1492
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 2: one card, We're gonna do the UFC card.

1493
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go without the main event, Luke. We're just

1494
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 3: doing the biggest main event the weekend, which I understand.

1495
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 2: I'm saying. We're picking the UFC. We're picking the UFC

1496
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:20,599
Speaker 2: main event. That's the one we're doing. Yeah, So I'm

1497
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 2: gonna go with aljamn Sterling, and I don't know how

1498
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 2: confident I am, because, like most people, Henry Shudo has

1499
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 2: been off for three years, plenty of questions. The division

1500
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 2: has grown up since then, plenty of questions. He's thirty six,

1501
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 2: even more questions, and his answers might be spectacular to them.

1502
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 2: I really can't say otherwise. I simply don't know. I

1503
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 2: just think that Alja man Sterling is a much more

1504
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 2: difficult problem that he's given credit. I've been wrong about

1505
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 2: him in the past. I hope that better late than never,

1506
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 2: but we shall see. I'm gonna go with Alja man Sterling.

1507
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been wrong about al Joe in the past too, Luke,

1508
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 3: and I've been happy to be proved wrong. But he's

1509
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 3: probably gonna have to prove me wrong for proving him

1510
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 3: wrong or thinking that I was one more time, Luke,

1511
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 3: because Henry SUDO's gonna come back in his own Captain

1512
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 3: America Randy Cotuur like way. He's gonna do what he does,

1513
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 3: figure out the problem in the middle of the fight,

1514
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 3: calmly and coolly. But like we talked about in the

1515
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 3: analysis set up to this on Wednesday, if the ground

1516
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 3: game cancels each other out in its own way, just

1517
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 3: by you know, maybe establishing the threat of but not

1518
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 3: becoming a factor. And this is a kickboxing matchup in which,

1519
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 3: you know, I like what t Suhudo could potentially do here,

1520
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,799
Speaker 3: even with the time off, the time off for almost

1521
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 3: anyone else at this level, to come back against a

1522
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 3: reigning champion who's also in the Pomp for pound top

1523
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 3: ten is as uphill a climb as possible. But I

1524
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 3: think I think we've we've learned enough to know exactly

1525
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:50,679
Speaker 3: who Henry Suto is, and who he is is really special,

1526
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 3: So I'm not gonna miss that anymore or doubt it.

1527
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 3: As hard as this is. But unless he screws around,

1528
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 3: unless he gases out in ways we can't predict and

1529
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 3: get submitted, I think he's gonna have a chance after

1530
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 3: twenty five minutes to get his hand raised. And I

1531
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 3: wonder if he is the bigger puncher, or at least

1532
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 3: I'm going to assume he is. In what I've seen,

1533
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 3: Luke could end up getting the nod because of that

1534
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 3: down the stretch here. If this is.

1535
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 2: Definitely the bigger puncher, He's absolutely the bigger puncher, no

1536
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 2: doubt about it. All Right there, You go all right,

1537
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 2: So for me, for we're gonna move to favorites, so

1538
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 2: we have to pick our favorite. Again. It can't be

1539
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 2: like some crazy amount. Has to be within a reasonable amount.

1540
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 2: So for me, BC, this is the gentleman I was

1541
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 2: referencing earlier. I'm gonna go with Ikram Aliskarov taking on

1542
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 2: Phil Hawes. Alis Karov is a not a huge favorite.

1543
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 2: Our friends at Seezers have him at minus one ninety five.

1544
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 2: I think it's a little conservative, but again Hawes is

1545
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 2: certainly much improved in the dynamite athlete. Nevertheless, I think

1546
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,480
Speaker 2: he gets his hand raised. He is so good everywhere.

1547
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 2: Another one of these hammers out of Daugkistan Ikram alis

1548
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 2: Skarov to win, all.

1549
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 3: Right, I'll have to add another spot on my shelf. Luke,

1550
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:57,599
Speaker 3: let's go to my favorite. It's going to come in

1551
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 3: that comin event at UFC two eighty eight to Caesar's

1552
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:04,879
Speaker 3: at the moment Balal Muhammad plus one oh five minus

1553
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 3: one twenty five Gilbert Burns. I'll give me the favorite here, Luke.

1554
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 3: I talked about it. My concerns are my questions. The

1555
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 3: three week turnaround is gonna be big for somebody. It

1556
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 3: could be positive or negative for both of them in

1557
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 3: terms of when this fight got negotiated and announced, with

1558
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 3: Balal so close to Ramadan, Burns just coming off of

1559
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 3: a camp, but now we're doing five rounds and a

1560
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:28,560
Speaker 3: number one contender fight. Both are just animals and they're gamers,

1561
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 3: and they're gonna come and they're gonna bring it. But

1562
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 3: I think Gilbert Burns is just the better, more well

1563
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 3: rounded fighter who's probably operating at the best version of himself.

1564
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 3: And I think that best version is better than me

1565
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 3: remembering the name at the moment. And Blal's really put

1566
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 3: it together and he's dodged the bullets and he's here, Luke,

1567
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,719
Speaker 3: he's gonna have that chance. Give me Burns by decision

1568
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 3: though after five rounds.

1569
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 2: I understand it. I get it. I totally do. I

1570
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 2: think Bala Mohammed followed me on Twitter tonight, by the way,

1571
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 2: so that's interesting.

1572
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:57,640
Speaker 3: He wants you to remember that shit, Luke. I like

1573
01:14:57,720 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 3: that guy a lot, all right?

1574
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 2: For my underdog pick, this one is surprised, maybe not

1575
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 2: super surprising, but I'm gonna go for my underdog with

1576
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 2: Devin Clark. Devin Clark, according to our friends at Caesars,

1577
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 2: is a plus one sixty two. I'm showing gon to

1578
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 2: mispronounce this gentleman's name. He fights out of four to

1579
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 2: c MMA, Kennedy and zechqu and q Wu. I'm not

1580
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 2: sure exactly how you say it. Please forgive me. I

1581
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 2: know it's a tough one. It's a tough one, right,

1582
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 2: it's a tough one. But the point being is this

1583
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:30,599
Speaker 2: Kennedy is rangy. He has deceptively good power. He's gotten

1584
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 2: a lot better, much better decision making. And Devin Clark

1585
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 2: I still feel like it's kind of like a more

1586
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 2: like a one gearish kind of guy, where a lot

1587
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 2: of wrestling in your face pressure. But Kennedy has been

1588
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,679
Speaker 2: known at times to give away rounds. For that reason,

1589
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:48,719
Speaker 2: that's why the odds are already pretty close. Clark will

1590
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 2: take the fight to him, and for that reason alone,

1591
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 2: and because he can wrestle his obviously very strong and

1592
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 2: very physical with it. I like Clark's chances here as

1593
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 2: an underdog in that role.

1594
01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 3: All right, my underdog pick Luke. It's gonna surprise you here.

1595
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 3: It's gonna come in one championship. Your current odds on

1596
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 3: Sage NORTHCUTT minus one fifty five. He's the favorite I'm

1597
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 3: gonna go oddmed Mutaba at plus one twenty five. I

1598
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:15,759
Speaker 3: mentioned he's ten and two overall. He's off two straight wins,

1599
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 3: both finishes here in one championship, and it's almost the

1600
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 3: flip side of the Henry Suhudo question. After all this time,

1601
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 3: I've learned who Henry Suhudo really is. It gives me

1602
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 3: the confidence to believe he comes back with all that

1603
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:31,879
Speaker 3: time off and acts almost like nothing happened. The problem

1604
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 3: is if even if you know Sage came back and

1605
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 3: acted like nothing happened and was the same the guy

1606
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 3: he left Luke, what was in the finished product either.

1607
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 3: And I'm happy for him that he's gonna come back

1608
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:44,640
Speaker 3: on his own terms. I've always enjoyed interviewing him, and

1609
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 3: he's a great kid, and you know, it's not like

1610
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:50,640
Speaker 3: he wasn't in shape during this long break. But I

1611
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 3: still got those huge questions about him as as like

1612
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 3: a fighter, you know, as like like do you want

1613
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like not the hunger, do

1614
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 3: you want this? But like are are your built for this?

1615
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 3: I'm I don't know. I'm not sure. You got to

1616
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 3: show it to us, you know what I mean? Show

1617
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 3: it to us.

1618
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 2: He that was like, I mean, let's be honest, there's

1619
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 2: there's there's there's bad injuries, there's serious injuries, and then

1620
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 2: there are traumatic injuries, and he had the ladder of those.

1621
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 2: Man he got messed up bad. The fact that he's

1622
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 2: fighting at all is somewhat remarkable, and honestly, I think

1623
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 2: this is actually a clever bet. Now, if he goes

1624
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 2: in there and beats this dude's ass, everyone's gonna be like,

1625
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 2: oh BC, that pick suck. But I think there's a

1626
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 2: reasonable chance that, like, you just can't get right after

1627
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 2: an experience like that, and this could all come crumbling down,

1628
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 2: which I would understand. I'm not even judging it that

1629
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 2: goes that way. So I think it's a pretty smart bet. Actually.

1630
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 3: Yeah. Like with my diet Luke and who I follow

1631
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 3: on Instagram, I too like to live dangerously.

1632
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 2: All right, all right for my over under, I know

1633
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 2: it's on short notice, but the guy is just a

1634
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 2: decision machine. I'm gonna go with mosarv Loev and the

1635
01:17:56,840 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 2: I think Diego Lopez fight going the distance. Lopez is

1636
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 2: actually probably underrated. No one really knows who he is,

1637
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 2: but again, he is a Brazilianho's been living in Mexico,

1638
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 2: He's been training other UFC fighters. He's a black belt himself.

1639
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 2: He's got enough to probably survive. And I think Evlovis

1640
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 2: should should obviously win this one walking away, but might

1641
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 2: be surprisingly conservative when you get someone on the last

1642
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 2: minute notice who you know they're gonna they're they're there

1643
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 2: just just to spoil the party, like they don't. There's

1644
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 2: no pressure on that guy to win at all. If

1645
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 2: they win, it's amazing. So Uh that one has a

1646
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 2: recipe for Yeah, I guess evlov could run him over,

1647
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 2: or maybe Lopez shocks the world, but I suspect Mosar

1648
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 2: wins a decision, it goes the full distance.

1649
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 3: All right, Luke, my over under is going to go

1650
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 3: on that UFC preliminary card. How about Chaos Williams back

1651
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:45,600
Speaker 3: at welterweight against Rolando But dooiya. Uh, these guys go

1652
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 3: for finishes, Luke, it's easy go for the under on

1653
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 3: this one. Uh, Chaos eight finishes and thirteen wins. Luke,

1654
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 3: he's got a bunch of knockouts here too. Uh. Let's

1655
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 3: continue that aggressiveness into an early ending thank you all right?

1656
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 2: Uh? And then last but not least for Ko or Sub.

1657
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 2: This is an easy one. I'm gonna go androgen Yon

1658
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 2: ends in Ko. I feel like that's just a wow,

1659
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 2: very safe bet, very safe bet.

1660
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I Jessica. This week Luke has just been like, look, people,

1661
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 3: I was like partying and not not working out at

1662
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 3: all when they called me for Aaron Blanchfield, Like I

1663
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 3: took that for the money, Like you got to represent

1664
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:23,679
Speaker 3: and understand that. You know, she went in there happy,

1665
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 3: just like, let's go have fun, let's throw bombs. You know.

1666
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 3: Now she's back at one point fifteen and she's ready

1667
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 3: to hurt people. That's the truth. Okay, you knew it, Luke,

1668
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 3: ko or Sub, I'm gonna go knock out here? How

1669
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:38,719
Speaker 3: about Braxton Smith Parker Porter? This has the biggest potential

1670
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 3: to be the sloppiest fight on the card with with

1671
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 3: you know heavyweights and you know waistlines and big right hands. Luke,

1672
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 3: let's let's dal for donuts here. I'm in, let's go

1673
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:50,719
Speaker 3: with the knockout.

1674
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 2: So you know, don't don't you just can't be fat

1675
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 2: shaming heavyweights. I just don't. I won't. I won't stand

1676
01:19:58,160 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 2: for it.

1677
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, and we have fun stuff but the

1678
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 3: ww really should have I mean they could have. They

1679
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 3: did DC dirty with that referee. Sure don't.

1680
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 2: The vertical stripes is like my god, they're not.

1681
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. Look, let's close quickly with some

1682
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 3: dead wrong we sometimes.

1683
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 2: Hey, well quickly, we're gonna talk about this jorget Masbadoal

1684
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 2: thing real quickly.

1685
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, you caught some breaking news here. What do

1686
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 3: you got?

1687
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 2: Well, I was breaking at the time we record this.

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01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 2: But basically, uh, this according to this this gentleman Andy Slater.

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01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 2: Andy Slater identifies himself according to Twitter, Uh he's verified,

1690
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 2: but he's got twenty six thousand followers. Talk show host

1691
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:37,919
Speaker 2: on air personalities I break news. He is out of Miami, Florida.

1692
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Speaker 2: He is reporting that Okay, Jorgey Masbadol's house in Miami

1693
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 2: has been swarmed by cops. The UFC star's father is

1694
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 2: in custody after allegedly shooting someone at the fighter's house

1695
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 2: during an argument, a senior law enforcement source tells me,

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01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:58,640
Speaker 2: and he goes on to say Jorgem Masbadal was not

1697
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:00,640
Speaker 2: at the house when the shooting happened. He's promoting that

1698
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 2: game bread Bare Knuckle Card and herery's what he says, yes,

1699
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 2: he was out promoting his bare Knuckle boxing event, which

1700
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 2: takes place Friday night at the FLA Live Arena. Pretty serious,

1701
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 2: pretty bad. But don't know what else to say other

1702
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 2: than sounds deeply unfortunate.

1703
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I hope everything, Buddy's okay. Luke, that's starting

1704
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 3: to sound like a Scarface sequel script or something. We

1705
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 3: don't need that, Luke, We don't need it.

1706
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 2: I know. I mean the fact that I again, who

1707
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 2: the hell knows what the real connection is. But remember

1708
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 2: like how in the embedded before two eighty seven they

1709
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 2: showed all the guns or Jorge showed all of his

1710
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 2: guns in his house. Oh yeah, I don't know if I

1711
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 2: don't remember if his dad was in any of those

1712
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 2: scenes or whatnot.

1713
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 3: I remember thinking, I remember not thinking that was a

1714
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 3: good look.

1715
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 2: I was like, guys, like every rule of firearm safety

1716
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 2: is almost being broken in a situation like that. Again,

1717
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:55,719
Speaker 2: I don't know what the situation is with this one,

1718
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 2: but just in terms of like basic firearm safety, don't

1719
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 2: do that. That's never a good thing, you know.

1720
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 3: All right, Luke, we talk a lot of shit, and

1721
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 3: sometimes we're wrong in that regard. So we got two

1722
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 3: receipts here from the fans because they thought ultimately and

1723
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:15,639
Speaker 3: we was dead wrong, dead wrong. Gotcha.

1724
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 2: God, I look stupid every day of my life. Every

1725
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 2: day of my life. I just look in the mirror

1726
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:22,759
Speaker 2: and I go, really, we're gonna do this again.

1727
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 3: Now you're on trial. Okay, here's what NeiMa says. Uh,

1728
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 3: hope you've had a nice week. Brcycling your Mitchell into

1729
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 3: others clothing. Oh wow, right, wow, brycing bry singer Mitchell

1730
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 3: into others clothing. Ah, that's it, that is wow. On

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01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 3: this week's Wednesday's episode, when BC and Luke were discussing

1732
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:50,839
Speaker 3: the upcoming Burns versus Ballall fight, BC was talking about Burns'

1733
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 3: chances and referring to his fight against Chamayav, mentioning, oh,

1734
01:22:55,920 --> 01:23:00,120
Speaker 3: some still believe that he won three to two. Well,

1735
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 3: that's not possible. He may have won that fight one,

1736
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 3: perhaps two to one, as it was a three round

1737
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 3: fight and not a five round fight. That's fair.

1738
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 2: What you've met was the majority of rounds. I know

1739
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:12,799
Speaker 2: what you meant. I know what you meant.

1740
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 3: Fun fact for you guys, Burns had only one five

1741
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 3: round fight in his entire career, and that was against

1742
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 3: Tyron Woodley and don't worry, Brian, we still love you.

1743
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 3: You're the cheerful one, unlike Luke who has a heart

1744
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 3: like a grave. And they put it into a hashtag

1745
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 3: that's great, all the best Nemeyeah. Yeah, oh yeah, I

1746
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 3: got that wrong. I stand up for that. Look at that.

1747
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:41,839
Speaker 3: We have a lot of fights that don't need truthers

1748
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 3: that are people are like, man, I think the other

1749
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 3: guy won. I still feel like Burns won that fight

1750
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:47,679
Speaker 3: and no one cares. I mean, you know, I didn't

1751
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 3: make us think about it either, but it was a

1752
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 3: great fight.

1753
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 2: I kind of thought he might have edged it. But

1754
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 2: you know what, I've never gone back and rewatched that fight.

1755
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:55,560
Speaker 2: That fight is bananas.

1756
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, we should do it together one day. Oh, Luke,

1757
01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 3: did you see that on the better Lawlor fight is

1758
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:03,719
Speaker 3: going in the Hall of Fame this year? Which fight

1759
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 3: Lawler versus McDonald two is going into the UFC?

1760
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, I did see that. Why why do

1761
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 2: you bring that up?

1762
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 3: Because you always told us that Lawlor condit was the

1763
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 3: better fight, even though that not.

1764
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 2: Just like we did this draft card challenge and the

1765
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 2: numbers are basically equivalent. I mean, maybe I had edged

1766
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 2: it out a little bit, but it was it was

1767
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 2: basically neck and neck. What I realized is I now

1768
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 2: know and understand why Hollywood recycles old ip. It's because

1769
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 2: the world is filled with dullards who just want the

1770
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:44,680
Speaker 2: same shit fed back to them over and over and

1771
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 2: over rather than trying something new. You guys are all

1772
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 2: toddlers who don't want to have You know, I'm not

1773
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 2: gonna eat my burger with cheese on it, eat your

1774
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:56,719
Speaker 2: fucking burger. But they won't because they got the palad

1775
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 2: of the toddler. That's that's your side of the voting aisle.

1776
01:24:59,880 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 3: Right, we get to that card comparison to close here.

1777
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 3: Final dead wrong here from Jordan. During BC's live chat

1778
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 3: episode four, around thirty two minutes, he referenced fans coming

1779
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 3: after him with quote flaming forks for his initial scorecard

1780
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 3: for Holloway versus Allen BC. Did you maybe meet torches

1781
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 3: and pitchforks like in Shrek? Wow? So nevertheless, thank you

1782
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 3: for the live chat, Looking forward to more arts. Oh my,

1783
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:35,719
Speaker 3: I hope your liver did okay on vacation. Mahaalo it's Jordan,

1784
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 3: WHI wow? Such nice people who let's look we did

1785
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 3: the pay per view draft challenge to see who could

1786
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 3: produce a better fictional International Fight Week card, and there

1787
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 3: was a controversial slide in when I stole out of

1788
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 3: Sonia from you. But we were both largely on apper

1789
01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 3: with our own cards, mostly because your main event was

1790
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 3: unconsciousible and also because I produced too many rematches, because

1791
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 3: if I just would have put Luke, if I just

1792
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 3: would have put Adasania versus CHAMAIAV and the main event,

1793
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 3: everything would have been fine.

1794
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 2: Every Well, here's the thing. Here's what people liked they

1795
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 2: about your card. From what I could tell in fairness,

1796
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:26,200
Speaker 2: the Chamaya of nickel Fite is a beggar. I mean,

1797
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 2: that's just I even said it at the time that

1798
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 2: one rocks.

1799
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 3: So it is Geche Pourier too, yo, So.

1800
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 2: Was Gechie POI two like that one feels like fresh

1801
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:36,799
Speaker 2: enough where okay, it's not so bad. But the problem

1802
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 2: was all the fucking other ones. It's like your main

1803
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 2: event was the fifth fucking time those guys were together.

1804
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 2: But dude, I'm telling you, they're gonna they're gonna keep

1805
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 2: making Mario Brothers movies and Avengers Ship until people are

1806
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 2: blue in the face, because that's what they want, they

1807
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 2: want their buttered spaghetti, no red sauce every time.

1808
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:02,760
Speaker 3: Do we have an items graphics related to this, because

1809
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 3: we did put like a vote up to the to

1810
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 3: the fans on social media, and I think Mikey did

1811
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 3: calculate the total of no graphics. All right, Well, Luke,

1812
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:14,600
Speaker 3: we did go head to head with those five fight stas.

1813
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 2: State of the art technology here at the USS.

1814
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:23,640
Speaker 3: Our very informal Twitter poll ie, just counting all the responses,

1815
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 3: has you up seventy seven seventy two years? Luke? Do

1816
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 3: you know what that's really saying? They just prefer you.

1817
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 3: They're not like they didn't even look at the card.

1818
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:38,520
Speaker 3: Your main event is is is unconscious ofle Okay, Luke, Yeah.

1819
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 2: The main event is bad. I did have a couple

1820
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:42,519
Speaker 2: people defend the main event. I was like, you don't

1821
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 2: even have to defend that for me, guys, you can

1822
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:46,560
Speaker 2: just let that one got.

1823
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 3: A sh car Luke.

1824
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I guess all right, he's got a nice

1825
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 2: house according to my the news I'm watching here.

1826
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know he toured it with Brett on camera

1827
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 3: and then showed off all those guns to out of

1828
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:00,719
Speaker 3: warning people.

1829
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 2: Not Yeah.

1830
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:06,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh look that's the show for today. May fifth here,

1831
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three. Hey, big weekend of fights. Enjoy it.

1832
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 3: I want you to tell the people what you got

1833
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:13,959
Speaker 3: cooking Saturday night, Luke.

1834
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 2: Saturday Night, come right back here, UFC two to eighty

1835
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:20,599
Speaker 2: eight post fight show immediately after the main event. I

1836
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 2: got you covered.

1837
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:25,679
Speaker 3: Come on back all right, don't you want? Hey?

1838
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 2: All right, do like I need to go, like put

1839
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 2: my kid to bed.

1840
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 3: We gotta I could have got one more bar in

1841
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 3: though probably, I mean it would have been fine. I

1842
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 3: wouldn't have you know, I wouldn't have. Yeah, all right,

1843
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:39,680
Speaker 3: Hey for for Luke Thomas, the greatest producer in live podcast,

1844
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:44,599
Speaker 3: Michael Moremile and myself BC enjoy this weekend watch US

1845
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 3: Saturday Night instant analysis. We out of here. That's it.

1846
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 3: That's it. Yeah, that's probably