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I'm Mike do So, joined by Evan 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:33.800 Lazar and Paul Parillo, and we had another hot practice 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:36.880 here today at the stadium behind Julett's, behind Jellette Stadium 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:39.519 on the practice fields and guys, the pads came back on. 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:41.760 It's one of those dog days of summer. I kind 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:44.320 of feel to it. But overall for me and I 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:46.080 think Evan two and you know, we kind of watched 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:48.159 it a little bit together this time, but I liked 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:49.560 what I saw from the offense today. It feels like 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:52.800 they're continuing to progress. I saw some real plays, you know, 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:54.640 we can get into. They finally started to do some 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:57.160 situational work, which I think Paul has some good points 0:00:57.160 --> 0:01:00.160 to bring up on. But overall, Evan, for me, I 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:02.040 just was as nice to see some plays run and 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:05.760 smooth Pop Douglas a nice touchdown there which we saw 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:07.080 off the line of there is you know, it was 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:08.720 just it was just a little bit of excitement. And 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:10.880 it's kind of been tough the last couple of years 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:12.959 here with the offense in the training camp, but it 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:14.760 felt like today they're continuing to progress. 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:17.480 This felt like one of the better passing days of 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:20.800 training camp I've seen in a while from the Patriots, 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:23.800 a maybe even a couple of years, honestly, just it 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:26.080 wasn't necessarily that the ball never hit the ground or 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:28.679 anything like that, but the plays that they were hitting 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:32.759 looked like high level downfield throws in a lot of instances. 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:35.560 You mentioned a couple to Pop Douglas. I also thought 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:37.679 he hit Pop on a on an out with Sean 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:41.880 Waydon coverage. It's just perfect timing, anticipation, a great route. 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.119 Earlier in practice a couple of throws to Austin Hooper 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:46.600 down the field that I thought were decent throws by 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:50.200 Jacobe Brissett. So I don't know what his completion percentage was. 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:53.080 I don't know, but when you start to stack, you know, 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:56.440 was that a play the way AVP wants it to look? 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:58.320 On the whiteboard. I thought there were a bunch of 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:00.919 those today, to the point where I was almost starting 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:02.000 to worry a little bit about. 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:03.960 The defense, like, yeah, we'll get there, we'll get there. 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:07.080 Wait a second, you know, they they lose Jalen Rager 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:09.320 up the sideline on one where I hit him on 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:09.840 a deep curl. 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.160 I think, yeah, I think it was a touchdown. He 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:14.720 turned it back in. There was no one there. It's like, bro, yeah, 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:17.040 Alex Austin, Yeah, yeah, a lot. 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:17.720 Of depth back there. 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:20.600 And there was also some throws and we can get 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:22.800 to it when we talked about Drake May, but there 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:26.160 were also some throws that just missed but were open. 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:29.280 The receivers were open. And I'm shocked, you know, you 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:32.000 hear me, like, I'm like, oh my god. But there 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:34.440 was a lot of that today, and I thought Jacobe 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:36.919 were said through the ball well, and I was impressed. 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:39.200 This was probably one of their better offensive days. 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:41.000 Like I said, in a while, yeah, I would largely 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:44.320 agree overall with the you know, the stuff that you 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:46.400 guys are talking about. I sort of got to the 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:49.000 point where I was wondering, like they did some third 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:51.600 and long stuff. They did some hurry up and well, 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:54.000 not hurry up more or less like no huddle. It 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:55.880 was kind of a subtle difference there and then some 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:58.600 two minute towards the end, and I do think it 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:01.200 was a little choppy in terms of play to play, 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:03.760 but I would agree with Evan's assessment overall. I thought 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:06.320 there were more plays today that we keep talking about 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:10.080 that looked normal. You know, the timing looked right, Receivers 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:12.760 were getting open, and you know, you kind of joked 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:16.080 you're worried about the defense. It was almost to the point, 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:18.440 certainly at the end of that two minute draw I 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:19.880 was wondering if some of the plays were designed to 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:22.800 be completed, Like that's how much I was kind of 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:25.919 worried about the defense a little bit today. The touchdown 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:27.600 at Douglas that end of the two minute drill was 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:30.520 as effortless as can get. It was like, you know, 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:32.200 a little I saw it from about I'm like. 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:33.600 Didn't cover. 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:36.080 I was like, what, like that was either a big 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:40.080 time breakdown or you know, we can start to get 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:40.960 excited about the offense. 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:42.400 Yeah, I know, That's why I said Evan. I'm like, geez, 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:44.040 the offense is looking so good today. It's making me 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:46.440 worry about the defense now. But let's just stick on 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:48.480 the offense for a second, Paul, because you know, I 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:50.200 think we have to call out though that that the 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:54.400 problems with the operation false starts kind of you know, 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:57.600 snaps going like those kind of problems are continuing, and 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:00.800 I know, you know, Jacoby Brissette on those a little 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:02.920 bit said they are a big point ofis emphasis for 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:06.040 Alex van Pelt, you know, as well as we're used 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.560 to and we talked about it on Patriots on Filtered yesterday. 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:12.240 We're used to the Bill Belichick's situational practices where it feels, 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.320 for all intents and purposes, being like a game situation 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:18.320 where you know, the clock's running, everything feels kind of real. 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:21.159 It doesn't feel like that when they went situational today. 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:23.560 It feels I don't want to say plotting, but you 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:25.640 got mistakes mixed in and it seems like we're getting 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:27.919 there's not really that like go go go kind of 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:28.640 kind of feel to it. 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:30.640 And I thought, you know, Drake May had a comment 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:33.360 that he said David Andrews told him, you know that 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:36.000 it's never as good as it looks, and it's never 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:38.479 as bad. And I thought that there were times within 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:42.000 that drive and those drives that that was accurate. Some 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:44.880 of the plays were getting executed very well. Like Kevan explained, 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:48.400 in between the plays, you know, I'm counting three different 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:51.599 times that they sort of had a pause, you know, 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:55.320 not necessarily re huddle, but almost rehuddle and get everybody 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:57.440 on the same page. And then there were another, you know, 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:00.760 handful of fall starts. Again, some of them I think 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:03.600 we're offside on the defense too, But there was one 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:05.839 play that the whole side of the line moved on 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:09.119 one side and the other side didn't. And then ninety 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:12.039 seven and that's Tristan Hill just like, yeah, came me, 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:15.360 you know, right up the right up the middle, un touched. 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:17.839 So yeah, never as good, never as bad. But I 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:20.640 do think that what I would focus on is another 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:21.360 day of progress. 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:22.080 Yeah offensively. 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:25.400 Yeah, that's an interesting point about the style of practice 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:28.760 and the bogged down moments that they did have, because 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:32.360 on the one hand, you can sit there and exactly 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:35.200 as Paul just laid it out, false starts, some bad 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:39.280 snaps here and their procedural stuff, and a Bill Belichick 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:41.599 practice that would be like lap after lap and like 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.599 no nose and you know, finger wags and maybe even 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:47.560 a rehuddle, like with Bill in the middle, being like, fellas, 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.640 let's get this together. Whereas with these West Coast coaches, 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:52.800 I keep saying it, but I feel like they just 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:54.800 want the presentation to look perfect. 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:55.080 Right. 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:57.320 If you hit a perfect play like we saw a 0:05:57.320 --> 0:06:00.159 couple of times today, they're happy with that. And the 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:03.120 procedural stuff, they feel like, over time will just kind 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:06.279 of organically iron themselves out where we're used to a 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:07.800 little bit more of the opposite approach. 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:10.000 What I would worry about though, just from you know, 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:11.320 a procedural. 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:15.200 Standpoint is you know, you get you know, I'm just 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:18.320 looking at you get a completion for little to no gain, 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:20.880 then a false start, So now you might be looking 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.000 at second and fifteen. You know, the next play is 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:25.559 a nice hook to Hunter Henry. So to your point, 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.640 that play look perfect. We're set to Henry. You know, 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:32.000 sits down in media zone. You know, nice completion. Well 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:36.359 that's a first down today, but if it was second 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:38.480 and fifteen, it probably wouldn't have been a first down. 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:41.520 And now all of a sudden it's third down. Clocks running, 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:44.560 the pressures building and you know that kind of stuff. 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.480 So yeah, On one hand, it's important to get the 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:49.880 plays executed the way you want them executed, and I 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:53.279 think that's happening more often than not the last two days. 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:55.440 So let's also talk about Drake May. I mean, we 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:56.840 saw at the end of practice that the kind of 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.440 a two minute drill with Jakobe Prissett that was long. 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.240 I mean, team plays, a couple penalties, I mean, you know, 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:04.120 and sometimes that Jose drives when they were kind of 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:05.880 doing some situational stuff, they just kind of end like 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:07.839 there wasn't like a rush to kick a field goal 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:09.960 or like no fourth down attempt or push ups. 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:12.000 Like, yeah, they just kind of fizzled, kind of worrying 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:14.200 about the I was wondering about the clock of that drive, 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:17.360 like it kind of stopped a lot, you know. And 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:20.200 to Evan's point, it's probably by design with Alex man, 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:23.240 Pelt probably wants to make sure let's get what we 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:26.840 want to do here rather than worry about, you know, 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:28.360 being in mid season. 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.880 Form, getting and getting unrattled a little bit. But let's, 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:32.680 you know, talk about Drake May. Everybody wants to, of 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:34.760 course talk about him. For me, you know, look, I 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.480 just I didn't think like yesterday was this monumental bounce 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:40.360 back day. Like I just from my perspective, Drake May 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:42.680 has been pretty solid each day, Like you know, it's 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:45.400 it's it's kind of building, but like it's not overwhelming 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:47.600 to me, where all of a sudden, yesterday's practice was like, 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:49.240 oh the light went on, Like you know, like you're 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:52.520 seeing progress, but like in a way where there's a 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:55.160 play and you know that kind of I guess not. 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:57.200 I guess not. I'm trying to stay balanced, but like 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.120 this is kind of what I was expecting. You see 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:01.680 moments with him, you know, a couple of plays today, 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:05.000 touchdowns that he threw. I mean, he had some good plays. 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:07.440 But you know, again, I think it's we're stacking days. 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:09.000 I just don't want to overreact to be like, oh 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:12.360 it's all good now, Like he's good, but it's not overwhelming. 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:13.560 Oh it's all clicking now for him. 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.080 Yeah, I definitely feel like you're on that rookie development 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:19.240 isn't always linear curve right now where it's gonna be 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:21.560 there's gonna be good plays and there's gonna be bad plays, 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:24.360 and trying to figure out the trend of is it 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:27.040 stacking or is it not stacking in a positive direction 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:30.000 is difficult to do. I think the two couple things 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:33.319 that he said after practice that I found interesting. Someone 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:36.000 asked him about the struggles he had earlier in the week, 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:38.520 and I know those are well documented. He mentioned that 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:40.719 they were in third and long situations in a lot 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:44.160 of those plays and said that, guess what, third and 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:46.000 long in the NFL is a lot harder than it 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.280 is in college. Right, So that was something that I 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:51.880 feel like he is adjusting to in those types of situations. 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:53.920 You know, third and eight against this defense is not 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:55.880 going to be what it was when he was playing 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:58.880 NC State, you know, six months ago, so it's gonna 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:00.600 be a different animal. And this second thing that he 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:04.040 said is that he's still trying to push the ball 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:06.800 down the field more like it hasn't really clicked for 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:09.760 him yet where that's coming. And I thought that was telling, 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:12.040 you know, I asked him about timing. I think all 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.880 of that links together that he isn't pushing the ball 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.800 down the field probably as much as he wants to, 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:20.240 based off of that answer that he gave us, and 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.679 it feels like that's the one thing that's holding him 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:26.080 back is maybe a little moments of hesitation, a little 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:29.040 uncertainty of the read and of what he's looking at. 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:32.880 Some double you know, yeah, no, ye, actually yes, yeah, 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:36.280 he had you know, Javon Baker is like a post route, 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:39.240 and I felt like it by he waited an extra 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:41.880 maybe half beat and Baker had to toe tap in 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:43.720 the back of the end zone. We felt up top 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:46.400 that he didn't get his feet and bounds, and Paul agrees, 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:49.800 And if that throw is out, just that half beat 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:52.720 makes that difference where that's now a sudden and easier 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:56.080 catch for the receiver. I'm not trying to to, you know, 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:58.520 lay it down on the guy. I just feel like 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.319 these are the things we're seeing. And the good news 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:03.680 to me, though, is that it's none of it's physical. 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:05.920 Like I'm not watching him throw the ball and being 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.040 like he just doesn't have the arm, like he just 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:10.520 can't make it there, or you know, his footwork is 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:13.280 completely sloppy and out of whack. I'm not seeing those 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:15.560 types of things right now. I think he's going through 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.960 some rookie growing pains with the offense and with the 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:19.880 system and the timing and the rhythm of it all. 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:22.400 Yeah, Mike, real quick, just to give you some bookkeeping. 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:26.320 Matthew Judah was was out there in pads, took part 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:30.240 in you know, everything that I noticed, So that's a 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:33.199 good sign. I think that's a positive step for that situation. 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:36.280 Marcus Jones, Josh bled So a couple of guys added 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:39.680 to the absentee list. They came out well into practice, 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:44.680 not dressed, you know, otherwise. You know, Pepper's was in uniform, 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:48.000 didn't really do much other than running, but he did 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:50.920 talk after after practice, so he's probably getting a little 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:54.920 bit closer just you know, in a Vederian low stays 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:57.240 at left tackle. I know what. We talked about that 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:59.240 a little bit yesterday. So another good two days in 0:10:59.240 --> 0:10:59.920 a row for Baderian. 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:01.360 Yeah, yeah, just. 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:05.079 Really quickly on on the tackle situation. You know, myself 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.560 included hand up on Caden Wallace. Maybe a little ahead 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:10.280 of ourselves on the Caden Wallace hype train. Had some 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:13.360 rough one on one reps today, and my guess is 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:16.559 that the coaches on the film and the team drills 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:19.080 from Monday and Tuesday weren't as high on it as 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:22.439 as I was watching it live. So he I wouldn't 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:24.520 I hate using the word demotion because that has such 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:28.720 a negative connotation, but right, yeah, but it feels like 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:31.320 maybe to pump the brakes a little bit on him 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:32.760 being this immediate kid. 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:35.360 And they did sign a tackle. 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:36.520 It's Kellen. 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:41.760 I'm not really sure how to pronounce, but he's you know, 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:45.600 he's a big six seven tackle. It's been bounced around 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:49.000 a couple of teams looking at Carve his way. Looks 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:52.000 like Tyrone Wheatley might be headed out because he was 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:55.280 wearing number seventy two in white. Wheatley wasn't that practice. 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:58.200 He looked like he was physically struggling in some of 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:02.400 the I think on Monday, Monday or Tuesday, so they're 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:03.840 still looking for some answers. 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:04.280 Up front. 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:07.040 Calvin Anderson looked like he dodged a bullet today. It 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.040 looked like he was he was injured for a while 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.600 and then all of a sudden he's taken repst at 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.800 right tackle in place of Chukes with the first group. 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:17.120 So hopefully he dodged a bullet. Just a little bit 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:18.800 of defense. To wrap this up, you guys know, it's 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.720 my thing. I was focusing on the reps today and Evan, 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:23.680 as you wrote, I think a couple of days ago 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:26.000 it was just they're having trouble and these one on 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:29.320 ones defensively getting around the blockers. Mike on WINU has 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:32.320 been great city so was great today. I think we 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:34.360 compared notes. We were both watching them separate, and we 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:37.360 both have like maybe two or three wins through the 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:39.640 whole period for the defense. So I know these are 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:40.760 individual drills, but. 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:44.720 Just because they win plenty when it goes eleven on eleven, Yeah. 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:46.520 But I think, like for me, like just looking at 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:48.320 the composition of the team's great at chewtons in there, 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:50.320 I think they'll be okay. I just I still wonder 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:53.080 about Barmore. They made another, you know, signing with Mike Purcell, 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.200 who was out there today. He's a big body guy, 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:57.880 so I don't know if that's necessarily an indictment, but 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:00.640 you know, you're you're seeing a lot of ninety five 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:03.320 Daniel Kualae, you know, like those are the guys that 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:05.360 are starting to fill in for bar Moore. So I 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:07.000 just these are my two general thoughts, and I'll let 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:08.800 you guys chime in. But my general thoughts are that 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:11.240 I'm a little bit concerned about the pass rush. You 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:13.040 mentioned a little bit of cornerback depth I think that's 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:15.160 a valid concern too, But but I just I wonder 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:17.839 about the interior push and offensively, I would just sum 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.040 up what I've seen over the last week and say 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:22.120 I think that they're going to be a functional offense. 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:25.000 I just think the X factor is truly having someone 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:28.440 like Taekwon Thornton or Booty or Rager, the guys that 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:32.400 I'm playing outside bringing some kind of downfield explosive element 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:34.560 to this offense. I think that they'll be okay, but 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:36.640 I just really still worry that they're going to be 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:38.760 when they get behind, when it's you know, they've got 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:40.600 to make some plays. It's going to be hard to 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:44.600 pick up chunk plays for this offense. Yeah, and that's that's. 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:46.840 Effectively, and that's what they want to do, and I 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:48.080 haven't really seen it much. 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:49.400 It's hard so far. 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:52.400 The last thing, you know, in regard to the cornerback thing, 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:54.800 just to sort of illustrate my point, Marcus Jones was 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:57.200 out today, and I know that they probably would do 0:13:57.240 --> 0:14:00.280 it differently if it was a game. But Marcus Jones 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:02.920 was out. We saw Azz hearn yep in there, and 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:06.080 then we saw Marco Wilson. My guess is it would 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:08.800 probably be Jonathan Jones sort of, you know, moving around 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:11.319 a little bit to try to cover up that that 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:14.680 lack of depth and then having a guy like maybe 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:19.280 Alex Austin more involved than he was. But I still 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.760 think that they kind of have two and a half 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:23.080 corners that they feel good about. 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:24.240 Yeah, that's a good way to put it. 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:27.120 Yeah, you know, because I feel good about Marcus Jones. Good, 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:27.720 not great. 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:31.120 I feel good about Marcus Jones, but he is I mean, 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:34.240 he's had a hard time standing being durable. 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:35.400 Exactly, Yeah, exactly. 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:38.440 That's disappointing to Yeah, his size is always going to 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:41.920 be something that he's going to physically in terms of durability, 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:44.040 but also just in terms of playing style that he's 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:45.320 going to have to make up for the fact that 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:48.400 he's going to be small. Then, you know, at this level, 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:50.520 I think that the one thing with the pass rush 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.560 that stands out to me is just the lack of 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:57.600 one on one winners up front. When they aren't dressing 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:00.360 it up like there's no pressure, there's no blitz pack John, 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.160 there's no creeper or anything like that. You're just four 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:06.520 guys against five. I don't know right now, outside of 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:08.600 Jude on if I feel really good about any of 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:11.280 their other guys winning one on one. You mentioned on 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:15.160 one who in or the interior guys on Wenn and City. 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:17.520 So went seven to oh today and one on ones 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:20.040 and it wasn't particularly close, like no one was really 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:24.720 even yeah, even particularly close to beating either one of 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.600 those guys, and so that that's a concern and a 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:29.840 corner I'm coming to Paul's side of the street with 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:33.160 cornerback death because I said to you during practice today 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:35.760 as like, you know, Stefan Gilmore, this is Elliot Wolf. 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:37.640 How you doing? You know, like I think it makes 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:39.400 too much sense? Yeah, you know, you. 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:42.520 Watch Marco Wilson, Alex Austin, you know some of those 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:44.600 guys that they've had at as easy hear, and those 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:46.480 guys got picked on a little bit today and all 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:49.640 these plays that we're talking about offensively had a lot 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:52.120 of twenty eights and twenty two's and you know those 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:55.280 types of things writing those down. So it still feels 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:57.760 like Gonzo and John Jones are gonna be solid for you. 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:00.400 But are you gonna have a Waldough You don't want 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:02.840 a Waldo right where you team's come in on Sundays 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:04.960 and where's Waldo? And you're picking them out in the 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:08.200 secondary and right now I do feel like if Marcus 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.280 Jones isn't healthy, they might have a Waldo. 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:13.240 Yeah. Well, eight practice is down. Hard to believe, flying By. 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:15.760 We're gonna be onto the preseason next week, but we're 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:18.120 no rest for the wicked. We are back tomorrow, guys, 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:20.360 another padded practice we're expecting. I think it's gonna be 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:23.160 hot again. So yes, this is officially the dog days 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:24.880 of summer. But don't worry. We got you guys covered. 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:28.160 So tune in tomorrow on Saturday, right after practice early afternoon, 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:31.120 we'll have another Patriots training Camp cast to recap all 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:39.200 the action for you. 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