Speaker 1: Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is
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Speaker 3: Just say Now here's welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 2: We did two episodes this week, so if you're just
Speaker 2: hearing this one, go back and hear the prequel. That's
Speaker 2: what we call it. Yeah, the prequel, the prequel. It's
Speaker 2: the way before jar Jar Binks. This is the one
Speaker 2: with jar Jar Binks. The sequel. Uh, that's Matt Castle.
Speaker 2: I'm Bobby Bones.
Speaker 3: Glad you're here.
Speaker 2: We are gonna talk to well, you already set him up.
Speaker 2: I don't need to set him up, so we'll just
Speaker 2: go to the interview. Now, this was awesome and it was.
Speaker 2: It was a good one. Have we had bad ones?
Speaker 2: I don't think we've We've had weird ones. Weird, but
Speaker 2: if they're only only if they're on like a not
Speaker 2: FaceTime zoom and there's like a yeah, yeah, there's a
Speaker 2: pause here and there. Yeah, okay, here we go with
Speaker 2: Ryan Sucker. All right, so this is your friend. Oh yes,
Speaker 2: he is my friend. At least in most days you
Speaker 2: can introduce him.
Speaker 4: Then, all right, today we've got Ryan suck Up, fourteen
Speaker 4: year NFL that he also is a super Bowl winning
Speaker 4: place kicker for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 5: We are teammates for six years. An extraordinary human.
Speaker 4: A great golfer, a great kicker, and we're happy to
Speaker 4: have you here today.
Speaker 5: Ryan, thanks for coming, bud.
Speaker 2: Man, that's the best Joy's ever given anybody.
Speaker 4: But I didn't even mention, Wait until you hear this voice.
Speaker 4: I mean, he could do sounds like Josh. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's it's just this beautiful voice that you could read
Speaker 4: children's books to.
Speaker 3: Y'all. Make sure my wife listens to.
Speaker 2: Do you sing?
Speaker 3: I would I would love to be able to sing.
Speaker 3: That would so when I was in Tampa, I would
Speaker 3: fly home every we'd play on Sunday, obviously I'd go
Speaker 3: to the team meeting Monday morning. I would catch at
Speaker 3: twelve o'clock Southwest flight from Nashville to Tampa every week
Speaker 3: to come see my kids, come home for a day.
Speaker 3: I'd be home twenty four hours, fly back practice, and
Speaker 3: without fail, you sit on Southwest flight and they see
Speaker 3: you going to Nashville you sit down, you're talking to
Speaker 3: somebody random, and within five minutes they'd be like, oh, man,
Speaker 3: like you, are you a singer? Yeah, gosh, I wish
Speaker 3: I cannot carry it to in at all. I wish
Speaker 3: I could, but.
Speaker 2: You only get a bass voice, like you'd be like
Speaker 2: them that morning.
Speaker 3: Well, I would need a lot of I need a
Speaker 3: lot of work.
Speaker 2: Then you went to the Super Bowl Champion with the Bucks. Yeah,
Speaker 2: who's your coach? Bruce Arians?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: One with Bruce Arians?
Speaker 2: Wait did you want Brady?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Oh yeah he was there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're a big Brady fans. We don't like Brady's
Speaker 2: back ups around here, but we're a big Brady fans.
Speaker 3: That's true. Stay backups are a different story. But Tommy's awesome. Man.
Speaker 2: So how many years were you with the Bucks before
Speaker 2: that season?
Speaker 3: Oh seeah, that's a great question. I timed it right.
Speaker 3: So I got cut. I played for the Titans. I
Speaker 3: was just finished my sixth year with Tennessee And actually
Speaker 3: is a pretty cool story, man. I had surgery on
Speaker 3: my kicking knee that season. Just didn't come back from
Speaker 3: the surgery the way I wanted to. NFL we always
Speaker 3: say doesn't stand for National Football League. We say it
Speaker 3: stands for not for long, right, Like they're always trying
Speaker 3: to find somebody younger, somebody that can do it better
Speaker 3: than you. I get cut at the end of that season,
Speaker 3: and my wife and I she was like, gosh, I
Speaker 3: can't believe they'd cut you.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: You've been you know, you'd had a nice run here
Speaker 3: and you get hurt one time and they move on
Speaker 3: from you. And so anyway, I got cut in the
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen season in Tennessee. Sure enough, end up in
Speaker 3: Tampa two weeks before the season started, and that's year
Speaker 3: that we won the Super Bowl. Okay, so it worked
Speaker 3: out really well. It was pretty cool out how it happened.
Speaker 4: We'll talk about that year too, because that was a
Speaker 4: year you got picked up on a one year deal
Speaker 4: and it's a make or break year for you, and
Speaker 4: you go out and you ball out right.
Speaker 2: You don't miss a field goal or a field goal.
Speaker 4: Temp or a pat during the entire playoff run and
Speaker 4: it was an incredible run. But also just talk about
Speaker 4: the pressures going into that season knowing, hey, I got
Speaker 4: to go out and perform.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was that that was certainly was pressure cast
Speaker 3: for sure, and you know how that is in the NFL,
Speaker 3: when you're on a one year deal, it's approve it
Speaker 3: year for you. You want to keep playing. But I tell
Speaker 3: you what was kind of unique about that year was
Speaker 3: when I before I signed there, I was even a
Speaker 3: little nervous about signing because I was like, man, like,
Speaker 3: I hope I'm healthy. You kind of have you kind
Speaker 3: of play that game where you have some doubts and
Speaker 3: you're like, man, I think I'm recovered, but I haven't
Speaker 3: done this in six months. Like and with Tom and
Speaker 3: that team, all the games were primetime games. You were
Speaker 3: always on the national spotlight, and so it kind of
Speaker 3: it kind of made you better because it was like
Speaker 3: you were the pressure of it. I think guys, some
Speaker 3: guys either you know, you can go one or do
Speaker 3: one or two things when pressure happens. And for me,
Speaker 3: I think it really helped just increase my focus. I
Speaker 3: did not want to be the guy. Like I saw
Speaker 3: the way that Tom was working. I saw the way
Speaker 3: that he was practicing every day, and it was kind
Speaker 3: of like your dad, You're like, you don't want to
Speaker 3: disappoint your dad's That was kind of how I took it,
Speaker 3: and I was like this guy's busting his tail, like
Speaker 3: I don't want to be the reason that we don't
Speaker 3: win a game. And so for me, man, it was
Speaker 3: a blessing. Had a great season. Obviously, the team had
Speaker 3: an amazing year, and that was really special to be
Speaker 3: a part that year.
Speaker 2: When did you two start to play together?
Speaker 4: Actually it was my first year in Kansas City and
Speaker 4: it was your first year in the league. You got
Speaker 4: drafted by Kansas City that year as mister irrelevant. Yeah,
Speaker 4: talk to us a little bit about being mis irrelevant,
Speaker 4: because it's a pretty big deal. Did you understand what
Speaker 4: that meant when you got drafted.
Speaker 3: I didn't know anything about it when I got drafted.
Speaker 3: Then within like ten minutes I learned a lot about it.
Speaker 3: So they obviously was I was the very last pick
Speaker 3: of the seventh round. Mister irrelevant had to you know,
Speaker 3: very last got picked. Well, they have a whole week
Speaker 3: for you to celebrate you out in Newport Beach, California,
Speaker 3: out by you know, your nods cast. And what I
Speaker 3: learned about it is that they actually, I say celebrate you,
Speaker 3: it's really the kind of roast you and toastia. And
Speaker 3: the problem is that I'm already a placekicker my last
Speaker 3: name suck up like they didn't need any more ammunition,
Speaker 3: and I'm just like giving them layups and so anyway,
Speaker 3: I mean, it was an awesome week. It was an
Speaker 3: embarrassing week. They have a parade for you out at
Speaker 3: the Newport Beach Yacht Club. You'll like this story. Cast.
Speaker 3: I don't know how much time we have, but I'm
Speaker 3: right out. So I literally they have the whole town
Speaker 3: a Newport Beach gets behind this thing, and so I'm
Speaker 3: sitting on a They're like, Hey, we're going to take
Speaker 3: you down to the Balboa Yacht Club and we're going
Speaker 3: to bring you in on a boat, and everybody's waiting
Speaker 3: for you at the beach. I'm like, this is awesome,
Speaker 3: Like I love this NFL thing. Well, what I don't
Speaker 3: know is that we're walking past all these like beautiful yachts,
Speaker 3: these beautiful sailboats, and we keep walking past them. I'm like,
Speaker 3: which one are we getting on? And we and we
Speaker 3: pass all of them and we go out to the
Speaker 3: end of the dock and I see this little dude
Speaker 3: in a little canoe with a like five horsepower Johnson
Speaker 3: handheld engine on the back of it, and I hear
Speaker 3: him coming around the yacht club and kind of like
Speaker 3: that right, And I'm like, wait, I'm getting on that,
Speaker 3: aren't I. And they're like, that's that's yours. And so
Speaker 3: because I was drafted by the Chiefs, they say, hey, canoe,
Speaker 3: I had to. You probably couldn't do this nowadays. I
Speaker 3: had the headdress on the whole thing, and that was
Speaker 3: my grand entrance into the end of the beach and
Speaker 3: there's like a thousand people there and here I am
Speaker 3: coming up into the beach in a canoe. It was
Speaker 3: really embarrassing.
Speaker 2: But do you have to go to that?
Speaker 3: You have to go. It's mandated by the league. So
Speaker 3: if you're mister yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: put on by the league. And I remember that. I
Speaker 3: remember like going into Todd Haley's office and I'm like hey,
Speaker 3: like because it's during OTA's and I'm like the low man.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm literally I'm the last pick of the
Speaker 3: seventh round. There's already another kicker there, Like I'm scrapping
Speaker 3: in clawing. It's no guarantee that I'm going to make
Speaker 3: the team. And I'm like, hey, like, I know you're
Speaker 3: probably aware of this, Like I'm not going to be
Speaker 3: here next week because I got to go to a
Speaker 3: relevant week and that's like not the thing that you
Speaker 3: really want to go, imagine Todd. Yeah, I didn't really
Speaker 3: want to go. Tell my head coach that, but thankfully,
Speaker 3: like he's like, no, we know, it's it's mandated by
Speaker 3: the league. You got to do it, like have fun,
Speaker 3: and it was. It was interesting, it was a good week.
Speaker 2: I can't believe. That feels like there's that you get,
Speaker 2: like a golden raspberry or whatever that thing is in
Speaker 2: Hollywood if your movie sucks and sometimes they go and
Speaker 2: sometimes they don't. If you're I figure that was like that,
Speaker 2: like if you had the extra time and you were near,
Speaker 2: you just swung by. I can't believe the league makes
Speaker 2: you go.
Speaker 3: It's mandated by the league. You gotta go.
Speaker 2: So would you've just rather not been drafted? Not about
Speaker 2: mister Irelan and that and that whole the pageantry of
Speaker 2: that amazing event, but would you have rather not been
Speaker 2: drafted in general so you could have picked your spot?
Speaker 3: Okay, great question, So there's an argument to being made
Speaker 3: for that. And I actually remember kind of as the
Speaker 3: later round, like in the as the seventh round was
Speaker 3: going on. I had teams call and like, hey, we're
Speaker 3: probably not gonna draft you, but we want to sign
Speaker 3: you as an undrafted free agent. And I remember like
Speaker 3: being kind of nervous because'm like, man, I've got three
Speaker 3: or four teams that are all good options. I don't
Speaker 3: really know what I'm doing. I got to make a decision.
Speaker 3: So for me, it was kind of a relief when
Speaker 3: they called because it was like, all right, I don't
Speaker 3: have to make the decision, which was great, and it
Speaker 3: really did work out. I mean it was it was
Speaker 3: a great opportunity. I never would have met this guy
Speaker 3: over here if I didn't didn't end up in Kansas City.
Speaker 3: And more than that, I think it was it was
Speaker 3: kind of neat because whether you really are an underdog
Speaker 3: or not, Like I feel like America loves the underdog,
Speaker 3: and so anytime they hear the name like mister irrelevant,
Speaker 3: people are kind of like, oh this guy, you know,
Speaker 3: they kind of want to cheer, they kind of want
Speaker 3: to pull for the underdog. So it was it was
Speaker 3: a cool experience and uh, something that I'm really I'm
Speaker 3: grateful for it.
Speaker 4: It was cool of those teams that called because as
Speaker 4: a kicker. I'm sure that you're looking and evaluating everything,
Speaker 4: including environment because Kansas City gets cold. Yeah, right, it's
Speaker 4: windy all the time. It gets cold later in the year.
Speaker 4: Was that something that would have factored in your decision
Speaker 4: for going somewhere else as a free agent?
Speaker 2: Don't? Yeah, hell yeah, give me a don't.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Domes are nice. Yeah, I think it would have.
Speaker 3: At the same time, I was also looking at it, like, hey,
Speaker 3: where do I have the best chance to make the team.
Speaker 3: You're kind of looking, Hey, you're kind of sizing up, Hey,
Speaker 3: who what's their kicker kicking situation look like? And you
Speaker 3: don't really know because you're a college kid. You're twenty one,
Speaker 3: twenty two years old, and you're kind of trying to
Speaker 3: guess it the best you can. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: I think if you sometimes there's an argument to be
Speaker 3: made if you're undrafted, you kind of have that decision
Speaker 3: and maybe you can go somewhere that's a better fit
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 2: We think of kickers unfairly as the least athletic person
Speaker 2: on the team, but most kickers that I know were
Speaker 2: like dominant athletes until they got to college and they
Speaker 2: had to just focus on kicking. Well, were your senior
Speaker 2: year of high school and you play football? What position
Speaker 2: did you play?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So I only kicked.
Speaker 4: No way tak talk about when the coach came back
Speaker 4: and got you and you cause you weren't going to
Speaker 4: play football, right yeah?
Speaker 3: OK, soccer so fair enough. So I uh. People they're
Speaker 3: always like, hey, how did you get into football? And honestly,
Speaker 3: I I played everything so football. So I played growing up.
Speaker 3: I loved h I played basketball, I played baseball, I
Speaker 3: played soccer, and I played golf and those are kind
Speaker 3: of sports I loved. And my freshman year of high school,
Speaker 3: I was in North Guy. I grew up in North
Speaker 3: Carolina and football and soccer were both in the fall,
Speaker 3: and so I'm trying out for the soccer team and I'm,
Speaker 3: you know whatever, I'm gonna make the soccer team, and
Speaker 3: soccer coaches like all summer, he's like, man, you got
Speaker 3: to go kick for the football team, and I kept
Speaker 3: telling him no. I was like, look I'm not. I said, look,
Speaker 3: I'm playing soccer now, I'm gonna play basketball in the winter,
Speaker 3: and then I've got baseball and golf in the spring.
Speaker 3: But you were a super athlete, oh, stud Well, I
Speaker 3: don't know about that, but I I loved playing sports.
Speaker 3: I don't know how good I was, but I loved
Speaker 3: playing and and finally, the week of the first game,
Speaker 3: he made me go to the first football practice. So
Speaker 3: one of my first fotball practice was the week of
Speaker 3: the first game. Yes, I went to my first practice
Speaker 3: on Tuesday, and they were like, hey, this looks great.
Speaker 3: And I had never played football before. I had kind
Speaker 3: of messed around doing it with my friends, like in
Speaker 3: the backyard, so I kind of knew what I was doing.
Speaker 3: And I'll never forget. We had a soccer game Wednesday,
Speaker 3: We had soccer game Thursday. I go to the football
Speaker 3: game Friday. We played at East Burke. It was an
Speaker 3: away game. I get to my locker like two hours
Speaker 3: before the game. I have no idea that this is
Speaker 3: when you had to wear the girdle with the hip pads,
Speaker 3: the butt pads, the thip. I literally am like asking
Speaker 3: one of my buddies, I'm dudeyeh, where's all this go?
Speaker 3: Like I've never done that? And uh we won that
Speaker 3: game seven nothing. I had one extra point and that's
Speaker 3: how we It's how we got into it.
Speaker 2: You never practiced until the first week of the first game.
Speaker 3: That was the first time went to football.
Speaker 2: Was it weird to kick that shape?
Speaker 3: Not really?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: Uh, I think soccer definitely helped. Having a soccer background
Speaker 3: kind of. I would mess around and do it on
Speaker 3: the side with friends and that type of thing. But
Speaker 3: I had like absolutely not done it any uh at
Speaker 3: any like organized level. So that's how it fell into it.
Speaker 4: So you played soccer that entire season while football season's
Speaker 4: going on. You just basically went to a practice or
Speaker 4: so and then went out and played on the weekends.
Speaker 2: On Friday nights.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would go to if I was lucky, I
Speaker 3: would get like one FOOTBA practice a week because we'd
Speaker 3: have soccer game Mondays and Wednesdays awesome, So usually I
Speaker 3: usually I'd go to the Tuesday football practice and that
Speaker 3: was and then I choke on Fridays.
Speaker 2: When did you become really good your senior year to
Speaker 2: where you thought and maybe you never knew because you
Speaker 2: didn't play enough to know actually what was really good?
Speaker 2: Because I like you'd been right a bunch of other
Speaker 2: football kickers. When did it start to happen where people
Speaker 2: were going, hey, you're good enough to actually play outside
Speaker 2: of high school?
Speaker 3: Honestly, probably after like my freshman year, I think I
Speaker 3: kind of I kind of realized, like, hey, God's kind
Speaker 3: of given me a little gift to do this, and
Speaker 3: maybe I should, you know, really try to refine this
Speaker 3: and perfect this a little bit. And I think I
Speaker 3: started going to maybe a camp or two that guy
Speaker 3: after my freshman year, went to a couple of camps
Speaker 3: and kind of thought, Okay, if I know, if I
Speaker 3: work at this, maybe I could be pretty good at it.
Speaker 3: So I would say that was.
Speaker 4: When I kind of realized was there ever a decision
Speaker 4: to be made to continue to play soccer?
Speaker 2: Because you were an All state soccer player for what
Speaker 2: three years?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you were a really good a really good soccer player,
Speaker 4: not just like a guy that went out and I'm
Speaker 4: good at soccer. I'm not great, but he was a
Speaker 4: great soccer player. Were you getting recruited for soccer as well?
Speaker 3: Yea, I had some I had some chances to play
Speaker 3: soccer in college, and I I was I could have
Speaker 3: played some more small for soccer, but probably not uh
Speaker 3: definitely not football. But the one that the one that
Speaker 3: haunts me is I love to play golf, and I
Speaker 3: had some chances to play college golf, and even like
Speaker 3: my first couple of years out of the league, I'd
Speaker 3: be would we would go back to Charleston, South Carolina
Speaker 3: the off season and we didn't have kids yet, and
Speaker 3: I'd be playing golf four or five days a week,
Speaker 3: and would I would start being like, man, I wonder
Speaker 3: if I should have done this? And my wife would
Speaker 3: sit me down and like, Ryan, don't you think about it.
Speaker 3: But there you were in the NFL. You are not
Speaker 3: going to go try to be a golfer. And uh,
Speaker 3: but that's the one that I always look back on
Speaker 3: because I just it's probably because I just love the
Speaker 3: game so much, but that's the one I always look back.
Speaker 2: On in wonder were you a soccer Were we a striker?
Speaker 3: I played center mid? Yeah, I played center miding forward.
Speaker 2: In soccer, So you were also kicking the ball ye
Speaker 2: oh yeah yeah, yeah, that's wild. Yeah, that football just
Speaker 2: kind of happened, yep, and then it became your thing.
Speaker 2: I think a j. R. Smith though, like you know,
Speaker 2: he played in the NBA, then went back and played
Speaker 2: college golf. Yeah, like at like thirty five years old. Yeah,
Speaker 2: when you walked in, most people don't notice that the
Speaker 2: set that we shoot this on is actually a big
Speaker 2: golf simulator and there's a huge screen behind us, and
Speaker 2: it just actually turned into a really cool place that
Speaker 2: we could shoot the show. And you said it almost immediately,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, you must play golf a
Speaker 2: lot and was asking him, then you start a good
Speaker 2: golfer like doesn't want to say he's good. That's like
Speaker 2: the joke, right if anybody's ever like, I'm good at golf,
Speaker 2: he's not. Yeah, I know they're not good at golf
Speaker 2: if they say they're good at golf. But you kind of,
Speaker 2: you know, hemmed and had about it. What's what is?
Speaker 2: What's your handicap?
Speaker 3: Oh Man? Probably about a plus two and a half
Speaker 3: right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, plus plus two and a half.
Speaker 4: And he just got he just got a coach to
Speaker 4: help him refine his swing at a plus two and
Speaker 4: a half to find what.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly so interesting enough, you said, j R. Smith
Speaker 3: just a minute ago, and actually I think it's this
Speaker 3: hat I'm wearing. In the past year, there's a group
Speaker 3: that's gotten together and they have started a a golf
Speaker 3: tour for current and former professional athletes. So we've had
Speaker 3: three tournaments so far, roughly twenty five NBA Guys, twenty
Speaker 3: five NHL, twenty five MLB, and twenty five NFL and
Speaker 3: j R. Smith is one of the guys that plays,
Speaker 3: and it's been really cool. We're at this coming up
Speaker 3: in twenty six We're gonna have a full tour six events. Uh,
Speaker 3: if you play well enough on you know, in the events,
Speaker 3: you are high enough on the money list, you'll qualify
Speaker 3: for a seventh event and then an eighth final event.
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be like a true tour. And guys
Speaker 3: like JR. That are really good players, we're all kind
Speaker 3: of grinding and that's where I'm at. I've played in a.
Speaker 2: Couple of dream Come True's.
Speaker 3: Dream Come True. Man, I'm so fired up about it,
Speaker 3: and there's guys like I love to play, but there's
Speaker 3: guys that are better than I am, and so it's
Speaker 3: like I'm chasing them and that's why you played. Like, Yeah,
Speaker 3: So Marty played, He finished in the top five. We
Speaker 3: just had an event in Alabama, like a month ago.
Speaker 3: Marty was in the top five. Joe Pavelski the hockey
Speaker 3: player won, Tony Romo's really good, Matt Ryan's really good,
Speaker 3: Mark Mulder the pitcher Greg Maddox, John Smoltz, all those
Speaker 3: guys playing.
Speaker 2: Uh, there's a Smolts is like a small course in
Speaker 2: his at his house.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so smaking the back. Schwaltz is actually he's the
Speaker 3: commissioner for the year. He's the commissioner of course, and
Speaker 3: he he really is, and he's doing an awesome job.
Speaker 3: He's putting so much energy into it. And guys like
Speaker 3: me were like all fired up because it gives us
Speaker 3: something to chase, and so we're you know, we're worth
Speaker 3: for you to win money, can't you. Yeah, there's yeah,
Speaker 3: there's there's a prize. Each tournament has like a has
Speaker 3: a decent, decent purse you.
Speaker 2: Put your own money in. No, like a cash game,
Speaker 2: that's it because you're all rich. So it's like a
Speaker 2: big just a big cash game you call a tournament though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, actually no, this is like they've got some sponsorship
Speaker 3: behind it, they've got some companies behind it. We're hoping
Speaker 3: that it gets picked up on you know, one of
Speaker 3: the networks here in the next year too. We'll see
Speaker 3: what happens there. But yeah, it's it's there's actually like
Speaker 3: a pretty decent person guys are we're grinding man, we're
Speaker 3: trying to we're trying to win.
Speaker 2: That's cool, and that probably scratches that itch through that
Speaker 2: the competitive itch.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. That's like for me, it just gives
Speaker 3: you something to work. Like I literally yesterday I was
Speaker 3: out at the golf club at Tennessee working with uh
Speaker 3: Brian Lackey, working with you know, swing coach out there,
Speaker 3: like I'm trying to get better.
Speaker 4: So it's, uh, it's all hilarious.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: So talk about you have that golf background and it
Speaker 4: takes a certain mentality of focus and everything like that,
Speaker 4: and you have such a specialized position kicking the football
Speaker 4: and big time moments. Do you think that there was
Speaker 4: any carryover from that background of playing golf and then
Speaker 4: the position that you played in the pros?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I think kicking golf, you're kind
Speaker 3: of out there on an island by yourself. Like when
Speaker 3: you're playing golf, it's an individual sport. Kicking obviously is
Speaker 3: a team I mean football obviously is a team sport.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, like what I do is
Speaker 3: very like if I make a kick or miss a kick,
Speaker 3: it's ninety nine percent of the time it's on me
Speaker 3: and you kind of have to be able to deal
Speaker 3: with that, right, like the pressure that comes with it.
Speaker 3: And so for me, I think they definitely go together,
Speaker 3: I believe it or not, a lot of the lessons
Speaker 3: I learned, you know, mechanically kicking the football kind of
Speaker 3: relate to hitting a golf fall, the timing of it,
Speaker 3: the rotation. There's a lot of things that sort of
Speaker 3: go together where, you know, I think I look at
Speaker 3: a lot of these golfers that are really good that
Speaker 3: are playing in our events. A lot of them are kickers, quarterbacks, pitchers,
Speaker 3: guys that are like those rotational athletes that are used
Speaker 3: to timing it up, And I don't know, I think
Speaker 3: it definitely goes together.
Speaker 2: What about guys who psychologically have to be able to
Speaker 2: forget the last shot or the last kick because you
Speaker 2: can't have it effect the next shot or the next kick.
Speaker 2: Like I hear the similarities like in your brain as
Speaker 2: much as I do anything mechanically.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. I mean I had to coach my
Speaker 3: rookie year in Kansas City and he was like, hey, like,
Speaker 3: if you kick long enough in the league, you're gonna
Speaker 3: have some valley moments and like you're gonna miskicks. But
Speaker 3: what's gonna determine how long you play is how do
Speaker 3: you respond after the miskick? And so, like you're exactly right.
Speaker 3: Sometimes when you miss one, it's really easy to like
Speaker 3: fall into that Pitmam, what did I do wrong? Overthink it, overcorrect,
Speaker 3: and then it affects the next one. So that's something
Speaker 3: where you have to I've learned, like, hey, you trust
Speaker 3: your technique, you trust your preparation, and sometimes you're gonna miss,
Speaker 3: but you have to go out there with the mentality
Speaker 3: of like, hey, I'm not I'm not allowing that to
Speaker 3: affect my mentality on the next kick.
Speaker 4: I mean your rookie year, didn't you set the NFL
Speaker 4: record for most kicks made by a rookie of any
Speaker 4: franchise in the history of the NFL.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a pretty good deal. How about this.
Speaker 4: We're third I think it was the third week of
Speaker 4: the season, We're in Washington. We needed to rely on
Speaker 4: this guy. I think he had five field goals in
Speaker 4: that game. We actually ended up getting the win. And
Speaker 4: so after the game they come over to interview me.
Speaker 4: I don't know why they should have been interviewing him,
Speaker 4: and for whatever reason, I have just a complete brain fart,
Speaker 4: and they're like, so, talk about your kicker. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: Ryan Suckoff did a great job. I literally call him
Speaker 4: Ryan suck off three times and he comes up to
Speaker 4: me a cast it suck up and I was like,
Speaker 4: son of a gun dud, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3: Well it is true. And what's funny is one of
Speaker 3: my best buzz growing up his grandfather, who was like
Speaker 3: eighty five years old, what he would call me, Hey,
Speaker 3: how suck off doing h and so like, it wasn't
Speaker 3: the first time I'd heard it, but it was a
Speaker 3: little more embarrassing when your starting quarterback says it to
Speaker 3: the media not once, but three times. So it wasn't
Speaker 3: a lot.
Speaker 2: There wasn't a lot of interaction, let's be honest.
Speaker 4: Because they call it themselves the specialists, right, it's usually
Speaker 4: the punter, the place kicker, and then their snapper. They
Speaker 4: kind of do their own thing, yea, And you don't like,
Speaker 4: we don't spend a lot of time in eating together
Speaker 4: or anything like that. So early in the season, Ryan's there,
Speaker 4: and of course I know who Ryan is. But then
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, the moment came to say his
Speaker 4: name correctly, and I was like, I kind of know
Speaker 4: how to say it.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna go with suck off it, ye, suck off,
Speaker 3: suck off it is.
Speaker 2: When you get to Kansas City and it gets cold,
Speaker 2: the things change with how you prepare. Like he gets
Speaker 2: cold at a certain time of the year, not just
Speaker 2: the city, but you get like November, it starts to
Speaker 2: suck it's.
Speaker 3: Cool, Yeah, it does. He gets cold out there. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think the hard part is like a lot of
Speaker 3: times that field out there would kind of stay frozen,
Speaker 3: like you get into December, because they at the time,
Speaker 3: I think they've changed it now, but they didn't have
Speaker 3: like the heating coils under the field, so you would
Speaker 3: go out and you'd have to like try to figure
Speaker 3: out what kind of plant you to wear because the
Speaker 3: field is literally frozen. So that was always like the
Speaker 3: hardest thing. And then obviously you're kicking a ball that
Speaker 3: is a rock that doesn't help you get no compression
Speaker 3: when your foot hits it, So it's definitely more challenging.
Speaker 3: But thankfully those heaters on the sideline are pretty nice
Speaker 3: cast and well, let's.
Speaker 4: Be honest to you, the kickers don't wear anything right,
Speaker 4: They're always in. It looks like they're wearing shorts because
Speaker 4: late later they're not gonna put a bunch of pads
Speaker 4: or anything in there. So I can only imagine how
Speaker 4: cold you get because you might kick once in the
Speaker 4: first quarter and it might not be until the biggest
Speaker 4: kick of the game in the fourth quarter that they're
Speaker 4: asking you to come back in. How do you stay
Speaker 4: warm in the during those moments you're just sitting by
Speaker 4: the heater.
Speaker 2: I see you kicking all the time on the side line.
Speaker 2: I don't know it's going through your mind.
Speaker 3: No, I would. I would definitely have one of those big,
Speaker 3: the big Parka jackets, you know, those things would keep
Speaker 3: you going. I'd go get one of those and stand
Speaker 3: it right in front of the heater and just open
Speaker 3: it up and just take all the all the flame
Speaker 3: from those heaters, which which actually worked, and then just
Speaker 3: try to keep moving because you're right cast. It's like, man,
Speaker 3: you may have a kick in the first quarter and
Speaker 3: then you may not be up to the third or
Speaker 3: fourth quarter. So you got to stay in the game,
Speaker 3: you know, obviously mentally, but physically as well. So if
Speaker 3: you miss like a twenty eight yard or do you
Speaker 3: feel like a loser. I've had some Yeah, I've had
Speaker 3: some self talk over the years. You know you missed
Speaker 3: a short one. It's you can be hard on yourself for.
Speaker 2: Sure, Like what would be the reason you had missed
Speaker 2: a short one?
Speaker 3: Honestly, most of the time, probably like a lack of concentration,
Speaker 3: just not like I would. I remember, I would always
Speaker 3: be the if I had a pre game where I
Speaker 3: didn't miss in pregame, like you go out and hit
Speaker 3: twenty in a row and hit them perfect. Those are
Speaker 3: the games that would sneak up on you and you'd
Speaker 3: miss one in the game. Likewise, like the Washington game
Speaker 3: when you talk about Matt that went well for us.
Speaker 3: I remember I had like a terrible pregame. I was
Speaker 3: missing kicks left and right, and then it was like,
Speaker 3: oh man, I better lock in, Like I better lock in,
Speaker 3: and then you out and have a great game. So
Speaker 3: I think on a short one, I think it's just
Speaker 3: like a discipline of like really locking in and not
Speaker 3: taking it for granted.
Speaker 4: Is there an adrenaline rush for you when you get
Speaker 4: to the fourth quarter and you see the team in
Speaker 4: a two minute drill and no, man, this might be
Speaker 4: a really big moment for this team if we can
Speaker 4: go down and get ourselves into position. Obviously you're like,
Speaker 4: get me inside.
Speaker 3: That thirty five.
Speaker 4: Don't give me the fifty yarder, but get me inside.
Speaker 4: But do you feel that energy inside of you? And
Speaker 4: how do you kind of suppress that as it's going on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that you definitely feel it. That's probably the one
Speaker 3: thing I'm miss I was I'm maybe a little different
Speaker 3: or maybe a bit of a sicker. I like that,
Speaker 3: Like I kind of liked that feeling of like coming
Speaker 3: down to the it's a rush, Like it is a
Speaker 3: rush that I haven't been able to replicate anywhere else.
Speaker 3: Maybe this golf thing will if I can get in contingent,
Speaker 3: maybe that'll scratch that edge a little bit. But uh, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a rush. And I think the thing that I
Speaker 3: had to learn like early on where I would mess
Speaker 3: up is I would get too like emotionally involved into
Speaker 3: it right like before it And so one of the
Speaker 3: things I had to learn was like, hey, I got
Speaker 3: to stay really really steady the whole time because if
Speaker 3: I get too high with the excitement of the game,
Speaker 3: then it's like my heart rate gets up too high.
Speaker 3: And now when I'm out there for the kick. I'm
Speaker 3: not how I'm usually am in practice or how I
Speaker 3: usually am in the game. So like trying to keep that,
Speaker 3: you know, really steady with something I had to learn
Speaker 3: how to do. And you know, the more that you
Speaker 3: do it, like anything, the more comfortable you get with it.
Speaker 3: And that was kind of a little bit of a
Speaker 3: learning curve for me, for sure.
Speaker 2: Did you always want the ball? Meaning did you always
Speaker 2: want the kick? Or at times would you have rather
Speaker 2: they just scored the touchdown and you not have to
Speaker 2: worry about it?
Speaker 3: Most of the time I would want to kick, unless
Speaker 3: it was like a third mine hour wind day and
Speaker 3: it was raining, and then I was like, man, let's
Speaker 3: just go ahead and punch this in in. So like
Speaker 3: those are the days where I would I would be
Speaker 3: just fine if we, you know, just scored.
Speaker 4: You you kicked a ton of game winning kicks throughout
Speaker 4: your career, obviously, Or is do any few standout or
Speaker 4: any one in particular?
Speaker 3: Great question probably the one actually when I was here
Speaker 3: with the Titans, we were talking about weather. It was
Speaker 3: the coldest game in Erahead history. It was zero degrees
Speaker 3: at kickoff, and I think the wind chill was like
Speaker 3: twenty below eighteen or twenty or spit was freezing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you would spit and it would freeze on
Speaker 4: your face mask.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how cool. Yeah, if you had if you
Speaker 3: took a shot of the water bottle and you missed,
Speaker 3: by the time you would wipe it off your beard,
Speaker 3: it would be it'd be kind of frozen in your
Speaker 3: in your beard. But anyway, we I had it, and
Speaker 3: it also was sweet because Kansas City had cut me
Speaker 3: a couple of years before that. I started my career
Speaker 3: in Kansas City. They had cut me, which is part
Speaker 3: of it. And lost story short, we had I had
Speaker 3: a fifty three yarder with I think no time left
Speaker 3: to beat him, and that was like a kick where
Speaker 3: it was just if you gave me that kick ten times.
Speaker 3: And I said at the time, like as cold as
Speaker 3: it was that day, like I don't know how many
Speaker 3: of those I would have made, but made, but it
Speaker 3: was just like it was just the perfect one.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: It just timed up and UH was able to put
Speaker 3: it through, which is pretty cool.
Speaker 5: That was awesome, but didn't didn't they call a timeout,
Speaker 5: so they.
Speaker 2: Tried to ice them in an icy day.
Speaker 4: He kicks the first one and it misses, but they
Speaker 4: coach ice him right, so they called the time out.
Speaker 4: So then he gets three t boom through the goalposted.
Speaker 4: It was wild, it was big.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about icing the kicker?
Speaker 3: Great question? I like it, Like if you call the
Speaker 3: time out. It allowed me time to go out and
Speaker 3: sort of like I'm a big visualization guy, and yeah,
Speaker 3: it wasn't gonna make me any more nervous, Like it
Speaker 3: would allow me to go out, take my steps, visualize,
Speaker 3: make sure the plant you know where I'm planting's good,
Speaker 3: see what the wind's doing. It just gave me a
Speaker 3: little bit more time to prepare. So I always liked
Speaker 3: it when I would get iced. If I was a
Speaker 3: head coach, what I would do if I had a
Speaker 3: time out left or two timeouts left, I would sit
Speaker 3: over there by the official and look like you're going
Speaker 3: to call it and not call it? That will mess
Speaker 3: with the guy? Does this mess with you? Well, you
Speaker 3: kind of had to learn. So I had to learn
Speaker 3: not to ever look over there. So I had to
Speaker 3: get in my head like if they had a time
Speaker 3: out left, if you allow yourself to play the game
Speaker 3: of like, man, I wonder if he's gonna call the
Speaker 3: time out. I wonder if not, you're not gonna be focused,
Speaker 3: and then he doesn't call out, you're gonna have a
Speaker 3: better chance to miss that kick. So that would always
Speaker 3: be my strategy. But like calling the time out right
Speaker 3: before the snap, like like that one in Kansas City,
Speaker 3: Like I knew that he had called time out, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna
Speaker 3: hit one. Because it's like you guys play golf, like
Speaker 3: the second t shots always easier than the first. My
Speaker 3: mulligan always I'm gonna go hit. I'm gonna go ahead.
Speaker 3: Say that's the second guy he can play. That second
Speaker 3: guy he can he can play.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I.
Speaker 4: Mean I remember that day that that was a crazy
Speaker 4: day in the weather and everything else. But I was
Speaker 4: so happy for you after that game. Is there anything
Speaker 4: better than kicking a game winning kick? Because you know,
Speaker 4: like you guys don't get all the credit in the world.
Speaker 4: In a lot of times, you only get credit for
Speaker 4: when you have a game winning kick or if you
Speaker 4: do something where you miss, ye.
Speaker 2: Oh well damn kicker one job.
Speaker 3: But that's right.
Speaker 4: But when you do get it done, and I mean
Speaker 4: everybody on the team feels that and like I just
Speaker 4: remember coming out on the field on those types of
Speaker 4: moments and celebrating and what's that what's that feel like
Speaker 4: for you?
Speaker 3: It is it's awesome because you're doing it, like you
Speaker 3: know how it is like there's nothing like the locker room.
Speaker 3: Like the locker room is the most awesome place man,
Speaker 3: where you're you're doing it with your boys, you're working
Speaker 3: hard together, especially like on an away game, a game
Speaker 3: winner on an away game where it's like just your
Speaker 3: guys in the locker room after the game, the plane
Speaker 3: ride home. It's just a like you can't really create
Speaker 3: that everymain places. So that's that's what you miss, is
Speaker 3: like those those moments where you're just getting to celebrate
Speaker 3: with your boys and it is. It's a it's a
Speaker 3: it's a cool feeling for sure.
Speaker 2: Let's go back to college. You play South Carolina.
Speaker 3: Plays South Carolina.
Speaker 2: Were you as a kicker? Were you like big man
Speaker 2: on campus football player as a kicker at South Carolina?
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I know. I mean, listen to
Speaker 3: South Carolina was great as far as like the fans,
Speaker 3: they love their football team, they love you know, they
Speaker 3: love supporting it. It was an awesome place to play, had
Speaker 3: a great experience. But no, I tried to. I tried to,
Speaker 3: like I wanted to be, uh, you know who's who's
Speaker 3: your coach there, Steve spur spur You got to give.
Speaker 2: A communication with him, like did you talk with him?
Speaker 3: Yes? Because coach Spurr is a huge golfer and so
Speaker 3: he knew that I played golf. And actually when he
Speaker 3: recruited me, I was actually getting ready to go to Auburn.
Speaker 3: I got offered by Auburn really late. Coach Spurr came
Speaker 3: to my house, did the visit, and he's like, Ryan,
Speaker 3: if you come to South Carolina. He's like, I I've
Speaker 3: always give my players that are good golfers. I always
Speaker 3: give him a chance to beat me. He goes, I've
Speaker 3: never been beat because spur loved to play golf. And
Speaker 3: I was like, man, like, it's not the reason I
Speaker 3: went to South Carolina, but I was I'm gonna stick
Speaker 3: to yeah, but I was thinking, like, man, that would
Speaker 3: be cool to like play off with the head coach.
Speaker 3: Long story short, I end up committing to South Carolina.
Speaker 3: I go to school there. I'm going into my senior
Speaker 3: year and we've never played golf, and in the back
Speaker 3: of the line, I'm like, man, that dog like he
Speaker 3: was just trying to get me to come here. We're
Speaker 3: never gonna play golf. Well, sure enough, the spring game
Speaker 3: of my senior year, he comes up to me and
Speaker 3: he's like he actually called me sucky.
Speaker 2: That was my.
Speaker 3: Sucky. He said, hey, what you what you doing tomorrow?
Speaker 3: And I'm like, coach, I got I got nothing. I
Speaker 3: mean's you know. He's like all right, He's like, tomorrow
Speaker 3: is my sixty third birthday. He goes, I'm playing sixty
Speaker 3: three holes of golf. Why don't you play the first
Speaker 3: eight team with me and see if you can beat me.
Speaker 3: I'm like, in the back of the line, I'm thinking, like, man,
Speaker 3: I hadn't hit a golf ball in six months. Like
Speaker 3: I'm in college, I'm playing football, but I can't say no.
Speaker 3: If I say no, I'll never get a chance. Man.
Speaker 3: I go out. I'm like five over through the first
Speaker 3: three holes. He's even par. We're playing his teas, like
Speaker 3: I can't hit dry. I'm hitting three iron off every tea.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It's just like he's he's got it. So anyway, I
Speaker 3: end up like playing a little bit better on the
Speaker 3: back nine, get it, I think, all tied up and
Speaker 3: then I end up hitting a shot on a par
Speaker 3: three over the green, make bogey. He makes par and
Speaker 3: he beats me.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: And he he beat me, and you know that was
Speaker 3: he he he loved it though he was competitive, he
Speaker 3: was a great player. And uh yeah that was that
Speaker 3: was cool to get to play with him.
Speaker 2: Did you get a picture of that day like afterward
Speaker 2: with you and Coach Berrier?
Speaker 3: You know what? I don't think I did.
Speaker 2: Man, you missed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would have been That would have been cool. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that would have been cool. I don't think I got
Speaker 3: a pick. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So, locker room, like you said, is a very interesting place.
Speaker 4: And I know that you and Dustin Cole were They
Speaker 4: were like two pranksters and they would do all this
Speaker 4: stuff in the locker room that nobody ever really knew
Speaker 4: about until you actually figured out the prank was on you.
Speaker 4: So tell me some of your favorite memories being inside
Speaker 4: that locker room, some of the pranks that used to
Speaker 4: pull on people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, let me just say Dustin was one of
Speaker 3: a kind, uh Tennessee, Tennessee. Of all, I'm sure a
Speaker 3: lot of people around here love Dustin. He was great.
Speaker 3: I think the one that comes to mind was the
Speaker 3: one that was kind of you know, like the best
Speaker 3: pranks were usually like Allen accident almost and I'll never forget.
Speaker 3: I'm driving in to the facility, and in Kansas City,
Speaker 3: the practice facility you kind of have. You have the
Speaker 3: Royal Stadium, you have Arrowhead, and then you have the
Speaker 3: practice facility. They're kind of all all together. And I'm
Speaker 3: driving in one morning in probably about this time of year,
Speaker 3: probably in October, and there was a little field right across
Speaker 3: from the practice fields, and I look out and there's
Speaker 3: like a really nice white tailed deer, like an eight
Speaker 3: point buck out in the field. And I loved the
Speaker 3: bow hunt and kind of you know, enjoyed doing that.
Speaker 3: So I go in and tell Dustin about it. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 3: there's a nice buck out there. Like we need to
Speaker 3: set up a trail camp. So when Matt and everybody
Speaker 3: else were in offensive and defensive meetings, you know, we
Speaker 3: had two hours before practice with nothing to do because
Speaker 3: we're specialists, and we go down to the Bass Pro
Speaker 3: shop that's like ten minutes down the road. We get
Speaker 3: a bunch of corn, we get the trail cam. We
Speaker 3: set it all up and we start getting like unlo
Speaker 3: I mean, we're getting pictures of like beautiful deer, turkeys,
Speaker 3: you know, you might have like the neighbor's cat on
Speaker 3: their show up. We're getting all these pictures, and guys
Speaker 3: started taking interest in it. So we would put the
Speaker 3: we would print the pictures out of all the wildlife,
Speaker 3: and we would put it on the board in the
Speaker 3: locker room because everybody woud always asking, hey, what'd you
Speaker 3: see last night? Because we go out and check the card. Well,
Speaker 3: I never forget were getting really played New England on
Speaker 3: Monday night football and I'm eating pre game meal and
Speaker 3: I think it was Brandon Albert. You remember, was he
Speaker 3: from like Brooklyn, New York? I think yeah, he was
Speaker 3: a New York Yeah, And Brandon's like, hey, suck up, man,
Speaker 3: what else do you guys seen on that trail cam? And
Speaker 3: a buddy of mine, like thirty minutes before that, had
Speaker 3: just randomly sent me a picture from like a random
Speaker 3: trail cam. It was like going around the Internet of
Speaker 3: a mountain lion that had a deer by the throat,
Speaker 3: this gnarly looking mountain line, and it just like hitting
Speaker 3: it was like that light bulb moment. I'm like, Brandon,
Speaker 3: you're not gonna believe this. And I pull up the
Speaker 3: picture and I show them the picture. He's like his
Speaker 3: eyes get this big and he's like you saw that
Speaker 3: out outside offcil and so, and I just I'm like
Speaker 3: in that wild like I just kind of let it go. Well,
Speaker 3: sure enough, we go play New England. I think we
Speaker 3: I don't think we won that game. Get back, you know,
Speaker 3: early Tuesday morning. Like I go into work on Wednesday
Speaker 3: and I have like five or six guys come up
Speaker 3: to me and they're like, hey, what's the deal with
Speaker 3: this mountain line? And so I'm like, man, look like,
Speaker 3: don't worry about it. I'm like, man, these things, you know,
Speaker 3: I said, they're only the only time these things are
Speaker 3: even moving is either at dawn or dusk. Like the
Speaker 3: rest of the time they're just sleeping. Like, don't worry
Speaker 3: about it. And I know that the guys get there,
Speaker 3: they get there at sunrise, they leave at sunset. So like,
Speaker 3: so Dustin's in on it. We got we got three
Speaker 3: or four guys that are in on it. We're all,
Speaker 3: you know, sticking to our guns. Well, sure enough, I'm
Speaker 3: driving into work one morning and I start noticing in
Speaker 3: October it's it's typically still hot, so you would want
Speaker 3: to park up against the tree line in the parking
Speaker 3: lot so that you would get a little shade. And
Speaker 3: I drive in one morning, I start noticing, like nobody's
Speaker 3: parking along the tree line anymore. They're all parking like
Speaker 3: as close as they can, as close as they can
Speaker 3: to the door. And uh so then I sat there
Speaker 3: and watch them, and you know, you'd watch guys get
Speaker 3: out of their car and not that they would like sprint,
Speaker 3: but you could tell it was like a brisk walk
Speaker 3: to the you know, to the facility. They were worried
Speaker 3: about this thing. So Dustin and I we thought it
Speaker 3: was hilarious. Todd Haley actually was in on it. He
Speaker 3: loved it. He thought it was hilarious. Well, sure enough,
Speaker 3: this goes on for like three weeks. I'm driving home
Speaker 3: from work one day and on the local sports talk
Speaker 3: radio they start talking about how.
Speaker 2: The Mountain line.
Speaker 3: Yes, first of all, they're like, we had lost like
Speaker 3: two or three games in a row, and they opened
Speaker 3: it up. They're like, if things aren't bad enough in
Speaker 3: the locker room, now they have to contend with a
Speaker 3: mountain lion that is running Arrowhead Stadium. So this gets
Speaker 3: on the news and I'm sitting here thinking I'm like
Speaker 3: a second year guy and I'm like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: this is not good. Like I'm responsible for this. Like,
Speaker 3: don't be a distraction, is what Scott Poley would say,
Speaker 3: all the guys, don't be a distraction. I'm thinking I'm
Speaker 3: a distraction right now, like I'm gonna get you know whatever. Well,
Speaker 3: sure enough, the media ends up asking Todd Haley about it.
Speaker 3: In the Friday press conference. He played along with it. Basically,
Speaker 3: he was like, yeah, I've seen the pictures of the cat.
Speaker 3: I've told all the guys or leaving the facility. The
Speaker 3: buddy system is in effect. So this thing, like this thing,
Speaker 3: this thing goes everywhere. You could still read articles about
Speaker 3: it about the mountain lion that was roaming the Chiefs facility.
Speaker 3: The neighbors that lived in the area ended up getting concerned.
Speaker 3: So the Department of Wildlife ended up calling the chief
Speaker 3: to find out to see the pictures. And that's when
Speaker 3: we had to tell them, hey, this is a locker
Speaker 3: room joke.
Speaker 2: That excellent.
Speaker 3: It was. That was probably my That was probably one
Speaker 3: of my prouder you know, that was one of my
Speaker 3: Prouder pranks.
Speaker 2: It's a great moment right there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was pretty good. It need the local news.
Speaker 3: It was pretty good. Plus take news, take news.
Speaker 2: When you win the super Bowl, you're in Tampa, you
Speaker 2: win the super Bowl. Obviously it's not as cold down there.
Speaker 2: Is it weirder? Is it even more harsh when you
Speaker 2: have to go somewhere cold when you don't constantly live
Speaker 2: somewhere cold?
Speaker 3: No, Like, so people would always say, like, oh, you're
Speaker 3: in Kansas City, like you get used to the cold. Like, no,
Speaker 3: you do not get used to the cold. Like it
Speaker 3: cold is cold. I don't care how often you do it. So, like,
Speaker 3: even when I was in Tampa and we would like
Speaker 3: the NFC Championship, we played in Green Bay and it
Speaker 3: snowed like five inches that morning and thankfully by the
Speaker 3: time the game started the snow had cleared out, but
Speaker 3: it was really cold and we were coming from Tampa
Speaker 3: and we like, I was fine, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: It was it was still cold, but I don't think
Speaker 3: it necessarily would have helped to have been there all
Speaker 3: week to practice. I just I feel like it's gonna
Speaker 3: be cold no matter what you do.
Speaker 4: What was the after party like for the Super Bowl? Well,
Speaker 4: it was it had to be Epic Mountain, Lion Mountain.
Speaker 2: A lot of cougars run around those parties.
Speaker 3: Okay, so you're not right, man. So in truly enough,
Speaker 3: the super Bowl we were. It was in Tampa. We
Speaker 3: played the super Bowl in Tampa, so we were like
Speaker 3: the first team to win it in our home stadium
Speaker 3: and it was awesome to do that. But it was
Speaker 3: also the COVID year, so the super Bowl party had
Speaker 3: to be outside, so because there were all these rules
Speaker 3: and all this stuff. So we had it at like
Speaker 3: the Tampa Aquarium or something on the water. And I'll
Speaker 3: never forget. Like, you're going to the super Bowl, gets
Speaker 3: over at whatever time, eleven o'clock at night. By the
Speaker 3: time we get over there, it's midnight. My wife is
Speaker 3: like seven months pregnant. You know, she's exhausted. She's been
Speaker 3: taking care of our other two kids all night. And uh,
Speaker 3: we walk in, but my family's there. We walk in
Speaker 3: and it was uh, I think Ludacris was playing and
Speaker 3: Migos Is that is that? Okay? Yeah? And so they
Speaker 3: come in they're playing the music we're all hanging out,
Speaker 3: and I'll never forget. I look over my dad. I
Speaker 3: mean he's probably seventy years old now, he's just whatever,
Speaker 3: sixty seven, sixty eight, and you know, here's Migos wrapping,
Speaker 3: and I just see my dad. He's just kind of
Speaker 3: he's just kind of digging the music and he's like, man,
Speaker 3: this is this Migos. Guy's really good. Yeah, Dad, he's awesome.
Speaker 3: But no, it was awesome. I remember we probably left
Speaker 3: the super Bowl party at like two thirty three in
Speaker 3: the morning. We were staying in a hotel because you
Speaker 3: stayed in the hotel the night before the super Bowl,
Speaker 3: even though we were in Tampa, and I just remember
Speaker 3: it was it was kind of this like shurreal because
Speaker 3: you get in at three, I'm wired, we just want
Speaker 3: the super Bowl, can't sleep at all. And then I
Speaker 3: have two young kids and they're up at like five
Speaker 3: point thirty just read it rock and roll. They could
Speaker 3: care less. They just wanted to go to the park.
Speaker 3: So at like seven am, we're at like some random
Speaker 3: park in Tampa, just like pushing my kids on the
Speaker 3: swing and they could care less about the super Bowl.
Speaker 3: But I guess that's what was sweet about it.
Speaker 2: Can you give me a Tom Brady story from that year?
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's see, Okay, this is this is probably like
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is when it's like exciting
Speaker 3: or anything, but this is Tom, and I always share this,
Speaker 3: like Tom was an unbelievable leader, unbelievable teammate, but I
Speaker 3: don't think a lot of people know, like he is
Speaker 3: a genuinely good dude. And I'll never forget. He has
Speaker 3: this guy Alice Carrero, who like takes care of all
Speaker 3: his tissue work, his nutrition. Like he's been with Tom
Speaker 3: for like what sixteen, I mean, he's been with him
Speaker 3: for forever. And Tom would always work with him really
Speaker 3: every day of the week, but particularly on Sunday on
Speaker 3: game day. And so Tom was like generous enough to
Speaker 3: let other guys work with Alex when he wasn't using them.
Speaker 3: And I'll never forget. I would always try to get
Speaker 3: the stadium like super early because I never wanted to
Speaker 3: like be in there in being Tom's way. And we're
Speaker 3: playing the Vikings my first year out I think it
Speaker 3: was my first year down there, and I get there,
Speaker 3: you know, eight am for a twelve o'clock game or whatever.
Speaker 3: Alex is on. I'm on the table, Alex is working
Speaker 3: on me, and Tom came in early that week because
Speaker 3: I guess he was dealing with something. So he comes
Speaker 3: in to get some tissue work and I'm trying to
Speaker 3: get off that table as fast as I can. And
Speaker 3: Tom's like, no, no, no, like hey, you're good man, like
Speaker 3: you finish up. I'm like no, no, no, like hey, you
Speaker 3: come get your work out, like I'll come back later,
Speaker 3: like I know where I stand in this deal. And uh,
Speaker 3: Tom's like no, no, He's like I'm serious. He goes like
Speaker 3: you guys, take all the time you need. He's like,
Speaker 3: we need you to feel good because if you feel good, man,
Speaker 3: it's gonna help us. That's gonna help us win today.
Speaker 3: And I look at Alex, and Alex like you heard him, like,
Speaker 3: you know, sit back down. So I'm laying on that table.
Speaker 3: Tom's just sitting there. He probably waited for like another
Speaker 3: I don't know, ten twelve minutes while Ox is like
Speaker 3: finishing up. I feel super uncomfortable, but then like sure enough,
Speaker 3: he's like so gracious about it. We go out. I
Speaker 3: think we ended up hitting a field goal like pretty
Speaker 3: late in the game, not to win it but kind
Speaker 3: of put put the game away. And uh, that's just
Speaker 3: kind of who Tom was, like he was or who
Speaker 3: he is, Like he was so great to his teammates. Uh,
Speaker 3: like really like genuine humility to let other people. I
Speaker 3: don't know. That story just always stood out to me,
Speaker 3: Like what a real leader he is to let somebody
Speaker 3: as low of a position as I was to sit
Speaker 3: there and him wait on me. I don't know. That
Speaker 3: just always like stood out.
Speaker 4: He always kicked me off the table immediately, and then
Speaker 4: he didn't even need the table.
Speaker 3: He was like you, I don't know your name. Yeah,
Speaker 3: well you guys also played the same position cash. It's true.
Speaker 4: But like even when coach are trying to put me
Speaker 4: in for a few reps at the end of a period,
Speaker 4: he'd be like, hey, I need this one coach. I
Speaker 4: was like, really, you just had the whole practice like
Speaker 4: they're literally handled.
Speaker 3: That was also kind of his mentality, right, Oh.
Speaker 4: He didn't want anybody else to touch that position, and
Speaker 4: I understand it. He always said, you never want to
Speaker 4: see somebody else playing your position, which held true.
Speaker 2: That's how he got his job.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, when you.
Speaker 2: Hurt yourself, yeah, your knee issue. Jeff surgery, I did.
Speaker 3: I had surgery.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I got to think that's as much physically as it
Speaker 2: is hard to come back that mentally you got to
Speaker 2: trust it again.
Speaker 3: How difficult was that it was? It was hard because
Speaker 3: I was the timing of it. Like I had the
Speaker 3: surgery probably five or six weeks before training camp started,
Speaker 3: and I was hoping to get back in time, and
Speaker 3: it just just some things happened where it just didn't
Speaker 3: go the way I wanted it to, and so then
Speaker 3: you're like trying harder, and then you're like stressing harder,
Speaker 3: and then that's like the worst thing to try to
Speaker 3: heal and to recover is when you're like stressed on
Speaker 3: top of it. So it was just kind of a
Speaker 3: culmination of all that because you want to get back
Speaker 3: so badly, but at the same time you're physically just
Speaker 3: not there. And that's that. That was a hard year.
Speaker 3: I learned a lot that year.
Speaker 2: Did it take a minute to get the confidence back?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I tried to come back and play probably
Speaker 3: halfway through that season, and actually my first game, I
Speaker 3: had the worst game of my career. I missed three
Speaker 3: I miss three field goals that game and then I
Speaker 3: played probably four or five more games that season. It
Speaker 3: just I just wasn't where I needed to be. It
Speaker 3: did not go well, and that was that was how
Speaker 3: I ended up in Tampa. And that was probably where
Speaker 3: I had some doubt going into that final season. Was like, man,
Speaker 3: am I can I still do this? Like I'm you know,
Speaker 3: I was probably thirty four thirty five at the time.
Speaker 3: I was kind of on the older side. You start
Speaker 3: kind of having those like real doubts, and so I
Speaker 3: think it was a blessing for me to get an
Speaker 3: entire offseason, you know what I mean, Like that happened
Speaker 3: in the middle of the season. I got five or
Speaker 3: six months before I had to do it again, and
Speaker 3: when you know, when the bullets were really fine. So uh,
Speaker 3: that was it was hard.
Speaker 4: But talk about the psyche too, because look, there's only
Speaker 4: one place kicker, one one field goal kicker on the
Speaker 4: team every year, and they're constantly bringing people in, especially
Speaker 4: as you get older, your salary increases and all of
Speaker 4: a sudden they want to go younger. Talk about like
Speaker 4: just the competitive nature of that position because there's only
Speaker 4: thirty two of you in the entire league. It's not
Speaker 4: like you have a backup and a third string guy
Speaker 4: that you can make a roster do something like that.
Speaker 5: It's really one guy per team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're exactly right. There's there's one guy that's
Speaker 3: going to do it, and it's I guess That's what's
Speaker 3: so like awesome about the position is that like if
Speaker 3: you can be that guy, like if you can show
Speaker 3: a team that hey, you can handle the stressful the
Speaker 3: stressful kicks or you know you can, they can count
Speaker 3: on you, you can stick around for a long time.
Speaker 3: At the same time, it's like that's where the pressure
Speaker 3: comes from because it does not take much. Man one
Speaker 3: or two games and it's like, dude, they're they're moving on,
Speaker 3: So you have to you have to be dialed in
Speaker 3: like every week for seventeen weeks and then playoffs because
Speaker 3: it just doesn't take much for them to lose faith.
Speaker 2: Let's say you kick off because you were a kick
Speaker 2: off specialists.
Speaker 3: Too, you say, yeah, I did from my first like
Speaker 3: probably my first eleven or twelve years, I was. I
Speaker 3: was doing it all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy breaks, it's you and it's him. What
Speaker 2: the heck is going on in your mind?
Speaker 3: Okay, so you know what, I know what I learned,
Speaker 3: and again I was not good at this like early on,
Speaker 3: but I figured out if you just get down there
Speaker 3: and get in the way. So like the if I
Speaker 3: would kick off and if I knew they were running
Speaker 3: it out, I would try to high tail it down there,
Speaker 3: because if I could be the top of the triangle
Speaker 3: and just be a body, most of the time those
Speaker 3: guys would cut one way or another and somebody else
Speaker 3: would make tackle. But if I hung back, if you're last,
Speaker 3: they had space, Like I was going to embarrass myself
Speaker 3: because those guys, those guys move a lot better than
Speaker 3: I move, and I didn't want that. So I would
Speaker 3: just get in the way and I would just pray
Speaker 3: that they would go left or go right. And every
Speaker 3: now and again you would have to just sit there
Speaker 3: and just kind of take it, like you know what,
Speaker 3: like on field goal we say, we say to the lineman,
Speaker 3: like die the slow death, Like the offensive linemen are
Speaker 3: going to get killed on field goal. And I would
Speaker 3: just kind of have that in back of my mind,
Speaker 3: like dude, just just take it. If you just got
Speaker 3: to take one, just take one. And most of the
Speaker 3: time they'd go one the other way. So that was
Speaker 3: kind of my strategy.
Speaker 4: What's the hardest hit you've taken in that type of
Speaker 4: situation or did you always just basically never hang back
Speaker 4: and always just acted like you're in the way so
Speaker 4: that they could run for a touchdown if they had to.
Speaker 3: Uh. The the hardest hit I ever took was actually
Speaker 3: in college. It was against LSU. I was punting and
Speaker 3: I outkicked the coverage little bit. Trendon Holiday was the returner.
Speaker 3: He he returned for a touchdown, but there was a
Speaker 3: there was a it got called back for a hold
Speaker 3: and Uh, I was actually like high tailor to the sideline,
Speaker 3: did not see a guy, got totally blindsided, totally decleted.
Speaker 3: It was one of those moments where like everything just
Speaker 3: went black for a second. And it was right in
Speaker 3: front of the LSU bench and it was I think
Speaker 3: it was Ali Highsmith. He was there, all American linebacker
Speaker 3: that got me. And I remember when I opened my eyes,
Speaker 3: he was standing over me like this and I saw
Speaker 3: the uh, all the LSU bench just go oh. And
Speaker 3: I remember he was exactly seriously I like, and I
Speaker 3: was like, dude, yeah, laid me out like I'm the
Speaker 3: I'm the kicker man.
Speaker 2: Like that's like harsh Manning is Sam Houston. He guys
Speaker 2: over the top of him. Are you punted and kicked
Speaker 2: in college?
Speaker 3: I did?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Could you have been an NFL punter?
Speaker 3: Maybe? I think I was more comfortable kicking. I actually
Speaker 3: did have a couple of teams that wanted me to
Speaker 3: punt instead of kick. But I'm thankful I didn't go
Speaker 3: down that road. Punting is hard, man. It's hard to
Speaker 3: stand back there, and you got to have really good
Speaker 3: hands to mold the ball, don't I don't think I
Speaker 3: would have been as good as a punter.
Speaker 2: So, all right, three final questions. I go first, So
Speaker 2: I know Cam Little a little bit. He's the Markansas. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I spent some time with them. He made that
Speaker 2: seventy yarder. Yeah, preseason, which is pretty unbelievable. Yeah, dude,
Speaker 2: people just kick farther now? Or are the balls like?
Speaker 2: What's happening?
Speaker 3: Man? Okay, So great questions. It's both, all right. The
Speaker 3: kids that are coming out now, like obviously Cam is
Speaker 3: super talented. It's a combination. The guy's coming up there
Speaker 3: better do Their training is better, they've been doing it
Speaker 3: at a younger age. They're better athletes all that. At
Speaker 3: the same time. The NFL just switched the rule this year.
Speaker 3: So when I played, when I played, you know, like
Speaker 3: we had it so hard, Matt. But in all seriousness,
Speaker 3: when I played, we would get the quarterback balls, and
Speaker 3: you have the K balls. So the quarterbacks get their balls,
Speaker 3: they get fifteen balls on Monday and they have all
Speaker 3: week to break them in K balls. We would get
Speaker 3: six K balls for the game, brand new out of
Speaker 3: the box, sixty minutes before kickoff on Sunday, and your
Speaker 3: equipment guy would have sixty minutes to break in six
Speaker 3: footballs by doing what like dirt ruh, yeah, rub dirt
Speaker 3: the brush. You would try to break the seams in
Speaker 3: as best you could, so find like a you know,
Speaker 3: the corner of a table and try to bust the
Speaker 3: seams as much as you can. You're trying to break
Speaker 3: that ball in as much as possible so that when
Speaker 3: they hit your foot you can get more compression, because
Speaker 3: that's what's going to make it go farther. And so
Speaker 3: when you only have ten or fifteen minutes per ball,
Speaker 3: there's only so much you can do. So we were
Speaker 3: really kicking like pretty hard footballs. Well now they changed
Speaker 3: it and they get all the kicking balls. They get
Speaker 3: all sixty of them at the beginning of the season,
Speaker 3: so they have the entire season to break them in.
Speaker 3: So like, not only are the guys better, they are better,
Speaker 3: no question, but you are going to continue to see
Speaker 3: monster field goals because you give me a ball that
Speaker 3: you have broken break in or all week to break in.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a big difference.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't even realized that. I didn't even think
Speaker 4: about it. I mean, I figured it would be.
Speaker 2: I think about kickers. Quarterback, you know, I was always I.
Speaker 4: Was always the backup holder, just God forbid, Like I
Speaker 4: had to go in there and fumble that the.
Speaker 3: Same way you. Me and Ben we had a good
Speaker 3: little thing. Then we've been on Thursday Thursday practice.
Speaker 5: They put me in there and Benny would be in
Speaker 5: the yeah, and it usually.
Speaker 4: He would always yell at me too, He's like, cast
Speaker 4: a little bit more to you, a little bit more.
Speaker 4: I was like, beat it, bro, I'm just trying to
Speaker 4: put it in the dirt where he just told me
Speaker 4: right here. Now, I'm usually off my spot. But we'd
Speaker 4: make we make some good kicks.
Speaker 3: We did. We teamed it up, man, We did our best.
Speaker 3: What was your go to cleat.
Speaker 4: You know, I know that there's always two different cleats
Speaker 4: that you guys wore. I always told him he should
Speaker 4: wear like a cowboy boot with a spur on the
Speaker 4: plant foot, like just to add a little flare to
Speaker 4: the whole thing.
Speaker 3: But we did always say cash if we knew it
Speaker 3: was my last year and we were still playing together
Speaker 3: in Kansas City, because this would be well received in
Speaker 3: Kansas City. We were gonna wear lu Casey on the
Speaker 3: left foot and maybe that would be my first sponsorship
Speaker 3: deal and clean it up, yeah.
Speaker 5: And have you smoke on the sideline and like.
Speaker 2: I feel a fine coming though.
Speaker 3: Absolutely Matt said he would cover it for me.
Speaker 2: I'd cover We just put the Nike swoosh on it.
Speaker 2: Last question, what kickers, golfers, tennis players, like anybody that's
Speaker 2: on an island. Because you play, it's a solo sport.
Speaker 2: Like you said, it's not a so football is not
Speaker 2: a solo sport, but a kicker is a solo sport
Speaker 2: inside of a team game. Yep, superstitions, you had to
Speaker 2: have them.
Speaker 3: You know what. Honestly, I know a lot of guys
Speaker 3: were superstitious. I mean, I knew guys that would like
Speaker 3: they had to wear the same boxers every game, or
Speaker 3: they had to eat at the same place. Like, I
Speaker 3: don't know, man, I that never. I was never that way.
Speaker 3: I would always, you know, i'd say a little prayer
Speaker 3: before the game. That's you know, that was kind of
Speaker 3: my thing, and I just leave it up to the
Speaker 3: Lord and try to go out and be free. But
Speaker 3: I really didn't have like a had to do this
Speaker 3: or do that. I really wasn't that way.
Speaker 2: Final final question, Final final question. Ever have a ball
Speaker 2: that's going in and for some reason it just hooks
Speaker 2: like crazy at the end and you're like, what the crap?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, one hundred percent. I remember one really like
Speaker 3: I remember one really well that like I hit it.
Speaker 3: I looked up, it was going right down the middle,
Speaker 3: and I was, you know, gave it a little one
Speaker 3: of these look down to get my holder a high five,
Speaker 3: and he looked on his face and I'm like, did that.
Speaker 2: Not go in?
Speaker 3: He looked at you, and I look up and it
Speaker 3: hit the right upright, and I was like, oh, that
Speaker 3: was a gut punch. So yeah, that most of the time,
Speaker 3: you know, like ninety nine percent of the time when
Speaker 3: you hit a ball, like you know whether you made
Speaker 3: it or not. And that was one where I thought
Speaker 3: for sure I made it and it was going straight
Speaker 3: and it like took a right turn really hard. I
Speaker 3: don't know. I still don't know what happened.
Speaker 4: Okay, last question, Yeah, last last night, last last last
Speaker 4: night's last question. Okay, when a field goal is blocked,
Speaker 4: how much of it is due to the trajectory of
Speaker 4: the actual ball being kicked low versus protection breakdown?
Speaker 3: They're all it all depends. Now, I'll say this, Like
Speaker 3: my mentality was always like hey, it's on me, Like
Speaker 3: I just think that's the way to be, Like, hey, I.
Speaker 2: Would never say that. I'd be like, dude, that's on
Speaker 2: you guys.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing. This was always my thing, Like field
Speaker 3: goal protection. You talk to any line then or tight
Speaker 3: ends on field goal protection, they will tell you that
Speaker 3: is the worst plane, Like that is the hardest playing
Speaker 3: football because they just get teed off on those guys.
Speaker 3: Like after every season, you better believe I'm going to
Speaker 3: the best steakhouse. I'm getting gift cards for all of them.
Speaker 3: Like I wanted to know, like, hey, y'all have a
Speaker 3: hard job. I really appreciate this, and the last thing
Speaker 3: you ever want to do is sit there and try
Speaker 3: to blame it on one of those costs because they're
Speaker 3: gonna block for your next game. So like my thing
Speaker 3: was always like, hey, it's on me, because then they
Speaker 3: would you know, they're they're gonna have that mentality like
Speaker 3: hey this he's you know, he's not gonna blame it
Speaker 3: on us. We're gonna go out and fight harder for him.
Speaker 3: That was my approach. But there's no doubt, like I've
Speaker 3: had I've had balls that got blocked that like one
Speaker 3: were on me. I didn't hit a good ball, they
Speaker 3: were low whatever, and then I had somewhere I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: I hit that ball good that would have been you know.
Speaker 3: And so it's just part of playing football. It's just
Speaker 3: like other guys in their team that they're getting paid
Speaker 3: to they make great plays and sometimes they just you know,
Speaker 3: they just it goes both ways. Man.
Speaker 2: So no more questions. But this is in parentheses. This
Speaker 2: is my question in parentheses, and we're down with all
Speaker 2: the questions in parentheses. If you got called today and
Speaker 2: they're like we the Titans, They're like, we know you're
Speaker 2: close games in an hour, Like where would you kind
Speaker 2: of cap out.
Speaker 3: At as far as like branch train. Well, you know what,
Speaker 3: I'm actually filming something here in about two weeks, so
Speaker 3: I'll I will report back to you and let you know.
Speaker 3: But I don't know. That's a good question. I hadn't
Speaker 3: kicked the ball in a long time, so I've been
Speaker 3: focusing on the golf. Uh it would it would take
Speaker 3: a little time to warm.
Speaker 5: That range, all right, don't Oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can still do that. I think
Speaker 3: actually that I still try to, like, you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm not castle over here on the tunnel five days
Speaker 3: a week, but get it in. I try to try
Speaker 3: to trust stay moving a little bit. I think I
Speaker 3: could still your wrecked there.
Speaker 2: You're like a rip dude. Yeah, but he's a freak
Speaker 2: of nature. Yeah, it's like him and I like, look
Speaker 2: like we're in shape. How you doing, buddy, Well, I'm
Speaker 2: been working at that.
Speaker 5: I'm on the tune five days a week.
Speaker 3: It's just a couple of retired professional athletes like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm living my life to the fullest. Hey, we've
Speaker 2: both got championships. I got a mirror of ball, he's
Speaker 2: got a Super Bowl ring.
Speaker 4: I've got three national championships. But that's way back. That's
Speaker 4: not even professional, is it.
Speaker 3: I must I must tell you this. I don't know
Speaker 3: if you know this about Cast, but how long have
Speaker 3: people be doing the show? A year?
Speaker 2: Two?
Speaker 3: Yeah, whenever. This was like a year and a half
Speaker 3: ago too. We're at our our boys play baseball together
Speaker 3: and I'm talking to Cast one day. Why could you up?
Speaker 3: To man? He's like, I'm doing this and this. He's like, man,
Speaker 3: they want me to do this podcast. Some guy he's
Speaker 3: like pretty big on country music and radio and now
Speaker 3: he's got all this stuff and I'm like, who is it?
Speaker 3: And he's like, Bobby Bobby Bones. I'm like, Castle, like
Speaker 3: you need to do that, Like you need to go
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 4: I definitely didn't say like I said, Bobby Bones.
Speaker 2: You know Bobby Bones, Billy Jones, Right, I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, I love him, but sometimes you know these we
Speaker 3: got to help him out.
Speaker 2: I've learned now.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's why I'm here. So we really appreciate
Speaker 2: the time. And this is been awesome. I'll let you
Speaker 2: in this though. This is your guy. Oh he is
Speaker 2: my guy.
Speaker 4: He's one of my favorite people I've ever played with
Speaker 4: and I'll tell you he's so humble and he's got
Speaker 4: such a great humility about him that he'll never talk
Speaker 4: too big about himself. But he was an incredible player,
Speaker 4: incredible teammate. But also when you see him interact with
Speaker 4: his wife, his kids and anybody around, the respect that
Speaker 4: everybody has in the community for him, it's just, uh,
Speaker 4: it's always something.
Speaker 2: That you strive for. And I'd say I always tell
Speaker 2: people this.
Speaker 4: I said, if there was one person that I'd ever
Speaker 4: let marry my daughters, obviously not at your age now, okay,
Speaker 4: but but the type of person that you'd want to
Speaker 4: marry your daughters, it's Ryan Sucking.
Speaker 2: That's there's nothing more like. It's the greatest intro and
Speaker 2: outro in the history of our show. Man.
Speaker 3: I need to come hang with you guys more. I
Speaker 3: feel feel better about myself today.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: Well, that's that's the whole point of this. Okay, lift
Speaker 4: you up and then as soon as you leave, we're
Speaker 4: going to tear you down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can record this. Your wife just asked that
Speaker 2: we do this to build you up. Y. Yes, your
Speaker 2: microphone actually is not working.
Speaker 3: Ryan. I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 2: All right, that was it. Ryan does allat if you
Speaker 2: played golf with.
Speaker 4: Him multiple times, and I don't like to. I like
Speaker 4: to watch him play golf, but when you play with him, he.
Speaker 2: Just makes you feel like such a golfer because he's
Speaker 2: so good. Jakesal me a coke? H all right, kind
Speaker 2: I'll get you a coke.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why. But it is he's a sight to
Speaker 4: see on the golf course. And I'm not I'm talking
Speaker 4: about his golf game?
Speaker 2: Is he because he is so good? Does he still
Speaker 2: make you feel worthy? A great shot? Chaos? Yeah, great shot, cass, Hey,
Speaker 2: you're you're all right?
Speaker 4: And I'm like, dude, beat it, Like if I was
Speaker 4: that good and I'm playing with my buddies, I'm talking
Speaker 4: so much smack to you, like.
Speaker 5: How you like that ball?
Speaker 2: Like you know, just just a nice guy, that's what
Speaker 2: I am. Yeah, you are a hugger. You better believe it.
Speaker 2: I have a friend named George Burge. He's got a
Speaker 2: couple of number one in the country music and he
Speaker 2: played golf at Texas University of Texas. That's a pretty
Speaker 2: big deal. He's awesome. But the craziest thing about him
Speaker 2: because he's probably a plus one right because he gets
Speaker 2: playing a bit on the road, you know, he's out.
Speaker 2: The craziest thing about him is he's such a nice
Speaker 2: guy when he plays, and he roots you on so
Speaker 2: hard that even though he's so good, you like playing
Speaker 2: with them, which is a bit counterintuitive because you think
Speaker 2: if you were playing with somebody that was so good,
Speaker 2: you would feel so inferior that it would be bothersome.
Speaker 2: I do feel inferior. M yeah, But but.
Speaker 5: He doesn't make you feel that way, is what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Not at all. If anything, you're like, man, I'm just
Speaker 2: a couple of things by being like you, George. No reality, never,
Speaker 2: that's never the Once I did a deal with a
Speaker 2: certain golf brand and because I had a sponsorship deal
Speaker 2: with him, and I'm not very a very good golfer,
Speaker 2: like I'm a twelve and so, but I like to
Speaker 2: play some and I'll play a lot for a couple
Speaker 2: of months and I haven't played at all in like
Speaker 2: seven weeks. So, but I was doing enough, and I
Speaker 2: was playing some of the celebrity games at the time,
Speaker 2: back when I was a celebrity, and they were like, hey,
Speaker 2: we want to So I did a deal with him,
Speaker 2: and I said, hey, I want to do this series
Speaker 2: with our guy Kevin, and we'll try to do like
Speaker 2: Break ninety because Kevin was just like playing golf for
Speaker 2: the first time. And so they say, Kevin, all these clubs,
Speaker 2: you got them fitted like thousands of dollars worth of
Speaker 2: clubs whole think we never did the series. Oh man,
Speaker 2: can you put them again? Because we just we just
Speaker 2: never had to. I don't really know what happened. I'm
Speaker 2: not with them anymore. That's not why I wonder why,
Speaker 2: but we just never Yeah, we we filmed like one
Speaker 2: day and then it just kind of fizzled out when
Speaker 2: we're on it. I mean that's just the I'm not
Speaker 2: even sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, yeah, that's why you guys get free
Speaker 4: stuff around here.
Speaker 2: It wasn't on purpose.
Speaker 4: Well that's awesome though, And the fact that you got
Speaker 4: new clubs, that's oh yeah.
Speaker 2: They're a plus.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean, can I give like a like a.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't plug them because then if somebody's listening from it,
Speaker 2: they'd be like, oh yeah Ice Range.
Speaker 5: I mean probably all together about thirty five hundred bucks.
Speaker 2: Good good group of good group of clubs. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: were supposed to do it, but they never even were like, hey,
Speaker 2: where's the dead? I think they just throw so much
Speaker 2: stuff out to the people they were with, and then
Speaker 2: I stopped working with them. That's amazing.
Speaker 4: My deal ran now fire they forgot because I definitely
Speaker 4: need new clubs.
Speaker 2: You No, no, we're not doing We're not. I'm not
Speaker 2: going back to it.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I haven't deal with them.
Speaker 4: I was promote you in whatever capacity I have to Bobby.
Speaker 4: Bobby's already committed to the show.
Speaker 2: I'll say this one final thing and don't do it now.
Speaker 2: You never change your Instagram name. That's how that's how
Speaker 2: little you think of us.
Speaker 5: No, I think of you.
Speaker 2: And I asked because it's so weird because who is
Speaker 2: m Underscore Castle? Like nobody knows? And when I'm like,
Speaker 2: knows that Underscore. But if I was like, be Underscore
Speaker 2: B thirty two, it says my last name. If it
Speaker 2: said even Matt Castle sixteen. But when I'm like, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm doing this show, you should watch. Here's a clip
Speaker 2: me and Matt Castle, they were like me a clip
Speaker 2: and me and Underscore m Castle.
Speaker 6: I don't think people know who that is. I think
Speaker 6: it's hurting us. All right, I'll get it together. Already
Speaker 6: went and talked about social media. No, I literally talked
Speaker 6: to him. He's like, I think that you're the where
Speaker 6: you're at right now.
Speaker 4: Enough people know that this when they come to this page,
Speaker 4: is that it would be this, that and the other
Speaker 4: to change it. So it's probably more to it than
Speaker 4: that conversation. But I swear on my love for my
Speaker 4: family that I did have that conversation.
Speaker 2: It's fine. I'm just saying when I tag you and stuff,
Speaker 2: I have no I have to write, hey, I'm doing
Speaker 2: the show with it. I have to write your name
Speaker 2: Matt Castle parentheses M underscore And it looks like if
Speaker 2: you don't know, it looks like Cassell. No, it does,
Speaker 2: it always has, always has. I just changed it in
Speaker 2: my phone last week. Yeah, I have my phone is
Speaker 2: m underscore Cassel. All right, we're done, Thank you guys.
Speaker 2: Thanks to Ryan. How'd you call him suck off? I did?
Speaker 2: I felt so bad out Thanks to Ryan suck Off.
Speaker 2: That's Matt Castle. Let's kick off, Kevin, that's Brandon Ram,
Speaker 2: Bobby Joon, We'll see you next week by Buddy.
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