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Speaker 1: Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is

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Speaker 1: a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcasts.

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Speaker 2: We got lots, just say, we got lots to save?

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Speaker 3: What is better here?

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Speaker 4: And we hope you say because we got lost? Just

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Speaker 4: say yeah we got lost?

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Speaker 3: Just say Now here's welcome, Welcome.

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Speaker 2: We did two episodes this week, so if you're just

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Speaker 2: hearing this one, go back and hear the prequel. That's

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Speaker 2: what we call it. Yeah, the prequel, the prequel. It's

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Speaker 2: the way before jar Jar Binks. This is the one

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Speaker 2: with jar Jar Binks. The sequel. Uh, that's Matt Castle.

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Speaker 2: I'm Bobby Bones.

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Speaker 3: Glad you're here.

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Speaker 2: We are gonna talk to well, you already set him up.

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Speaker 2: I don't need to set him up, so we'll just

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Speaker 2: go to the interview. Now, this was awesome and it was.

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Speaker 2: It was a good one. Have we had bad ones?

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Speaker 2: I don't think we've We've had weird ones. Weird, but

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Speaker 2: if they're only only if they're on like a not

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Speaker 2: FaceTime zoom and there's like a yeah, yeah, there's a

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Speaker 2: pause here and there. Yeah, okay, here we go with

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Speaker 2: Ryan Sucker. All right, so this is your friend. Oh yes,

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Speaker 2: he is my friend. At least in most days you

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Speaker 2: can introduce him.

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Speaker 4: Then, all right, today we've got Ryan suck Up, fourteen

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Speaker 4: year NFL that he also is a super Bowl winning

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Speaker 4: place kicker for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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Speaker 5: We are teammates for six years. An extraordinary human.

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Speaker 4: A great golfer, a great kicker, and we're happy to

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Speaker 4: have you here today.

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Speaker 5: Ryan, thanks for coming, bud.

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Speaker 2: Man, that's the best Joy's ever given anybody.

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Speaker 4: But I didn't even mention, Wait until you hear this voice.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he could do sounds like Josh. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's it's just this beautiful voice that you could read

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Speaker 4: children's books to.

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Speaker 3: Y'all. Make sure my wife listens to.

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Speaker 2: Do you sing?

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Speaker 3: I would I would love to be able to sing.

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Speaker 3: That would so when I was in Tampa, I would

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Speaker 3: fly home every we'd play on Sunday, obviously I'd go

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Speaker 3: twelve o'clock Southwest flight from Nashville to Tampa every week

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Speaker 3: to come see my kids, come home for a day.

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Speaker 3: I'd be home twenty four hours, fly back practice, and

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Speaker 3: without fail, you sit on Southwest flight and they see

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Speaker 3: somebody random, and within five minutes they'd be like, oh, man,

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Speaker 3: like you, are you a singer? Yeah, gosh, I wish

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Speaker 3: I cannot carry it to in at all. I wish

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Speaker 3: I could, but.

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Speaker 2: You only get a bass voice, like you'd be like

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Speaker 3: Well, I would need a lot of I need a

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Speaker 2: Then you went to the Super Bowl Champion with the Bucks. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: who's your coach? Bruce Arians?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Oh yeah he was there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're a big Brady fans. We don't like Brady's

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Speaker 2: back ups around here, but we're a big Brady fans.

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Speaker 3: That's true. Stay backups are a different story. But Tommy's awesome. Man.

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Speaker 2: So how many years were you with the Bucks before

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Speaker 3: Oh seeah, that's a great question. I timed it right.

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Speaker 3: So I got cut. I played for the Titans. I

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Speaker 3: stands for not for long, right, Like they're always trying

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Speaker 3: to find somebody younger, somebody that can do it better

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Speaker 3: You've been you know, you'd had a nice run here

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Speaker 4: We'll talk about that year too, because that was a

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Speaker 4: and it's a make or break year for you, and

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Speaker 2: You don't miss a field goal or a field goal.

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Speaker 4: Temp or a pat during the entire playoff run and

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Speaker 4: it was an incredible run. But also just talk about

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was that that was certainly was pressure cast

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Speaker 2: When did you two start to play together?

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Speaker 4: Actually it was my first year in Kansas City and

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Speaker 4: drafted by Kansas City that year as mister irrelevant. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I didn't know anything about it when I got drafted.

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Speaker 3: for you to celebrate you out in Newport Beach, California,

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Speaker 2: But do you have to go to that?

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Speaker 3: You have to go. It's mandated by the league. So

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Speaker 3: really want to go, imagine Todd. Yeah, I didn't really

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Speaker 3: like he's like, no, we know, it's it's mandated by

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Speaker 3: and it was. It was interesting, it was a good week.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe. That feels like there's that you get,

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Speaker 2: sometimes they don't. If you're I figure that was like that,

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Speaker 2: like if you had the extra time and you were near,

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Speaker 2: you just swung by. I can't believe the league makes

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Speaker 3: It's mandated by the league. You gotta go.

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Speaker 2: So would you've just rather not been drafted? Not about

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Speaker 2: mister Irelan and that and that whole the pageantry of

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Speaker 2: that amazing event, but would you have rather not been

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Speaker 3: Okay, great question, So there's an argument to being made

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Speaker 2: the competitive itch.

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent. That's like for me, it just gives

433
00:16:51,136 --> 00:16:53,016
Speaker 3: you something to work. Like I literally yesterday I was

434
00:16:53,056 --> 00:16:55,456
Speaker 3: out at the golf club at Tennessee working with uh

435
00:16:55,536 --> 00:16:57,856
Speaker 3: Brian Lackey, working with you know, swing coach out there,

436
00:16:57,896 --> 00:16:58,896
Speaker 3: like I'm trying to get better.

437
00:16:58,936 --> 00:17:08,736
Speaker 4: So it's, uh, it's all hilarious.

438
00:17:15,455 --> 00:17:15,775
Speaker 2: Okay.

439
00:17:15,816 --> 00:17:18,896
Speaker 4: So talk about you have that golf background and it

440
00:17:18,975 --> 00:17:22,416
Speaker 4: takes a certain mentality of focus and everything like that,

441
00:17:22,536 --> 00:17:26,256
Speaker 4: and you have such a specialized position kicking the football

442
00:17:26,616 --> 00:17:28,255
Speaker 4: and big time moments. Do you think that there was

443
00:17:28,296 --> 00:17:31,536
Speaker 4: any carryover from that background of playing golf and then

444
00:17:31,576 --> 00:17:33,775
Speaker 4: the position that you played in the pros?

445
00:17:34,056 --> 00:17:36,656
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I think kicking golf, you're kind

446
00:17:36,656 --> 00:17:38,456
Speaker 3: of out there on an island by yourself. Like when

447
00:17:38,455 --> 00:17:42,735
Speaker 3: you're playing golf, it's an individual sport. Kicking obviously is

448
00:17:42,735 --> 00:17:44,735
Speaker 3: a team I mean football obviously is a team sport.

449
00:17:44,776 --> 00:17:46,696
Speaker 3: But at the same time, like what I do is

450
00:17:46,816 --> 00:17:48,856
Speaker 3: very like if I make a kick or miss a kick,

451
00:17:48,896 --> 00:17:51,336
Speaker 3: it's ninety nine percent of the time it's on me

452
00:17:51,975 --> 00:17:53,016
Speaker 3: and you kind of have to be able to deal

453
00:17:53,056 --> 00:17:54,696
Speaker 3: with that, right, like the pressure that comes with it.

454
00:17:55,975 --> 00:17:58,896
Speaker 3: And so for me, I think they definitely go together,

455
00:17:59,176 --> 00:18:01,535
Speaker 3: I believe it or not, a lot of the lessons

456
00:18:01,576 --> 00:18:03,936
Speaker 3: I learned, you know, mechanically kicking the football kind of

457
00:18:03,975 --> 00:18:07,015
Speaker 3: relate to hitting a golf fall, the timing of it,

458
00:18:07,176 --> 00:18:09,015
Speaker 3: the rotation. There's a lot of things that sort of

459
00:18:09,056 --> 00:18:11,416
Speaker 3: go together where, you know, I think I look at

460
00:18:11,416 --> 00:18:12,656
Speaker 3: a lot of these golfers that are really good that

461
00:18:12,696 --> 00:18:16,736
Speaker 3: are playing in our events. A lot of them are kickers, quarterbacks, pitchers,

462
00:18:16,816 --> 00:18:19,416
Speaker 3: guys that are like those rotational athletes that are used

463
00:18:19,416 --> 00:18:21,696
Speaker 3: to timing it up, And I don't know, I think

464
00:18:21,696 --> 00:18:22,576
Speaker 3: it definitely goes together.

465
00:18:22,735 --> 00:18:25,096
Speaker 2: What about guys who psychologically have to be able to

466
00:18:25,136 --> 00:18:28,975
Speaker 2: forget the last shot or the last kick because you

467
00:18:28,975 --> 00:18:31,536
Speaker 2: can't have it effect the next shot or the next kick.

468
00:18:31,616 --> 00:18:34,335
Speaker 2: Like I hear the similarities like in your brain as

469
00:18:34,376 --> 00:18:35,735
Speaker 2: much as I do anything mechanically.

470
00:18:35,936 --> 00:18:38,015
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. I mean I had to coach my

471
00:18:38,096 --> 00:18:39,936
Speaker 3: rookie year in Kansas City and he was like, hey, like,

472
00:18:39,975 --> 00:18:43,096
Speaker 3: if you kick long enough in the league, you're gonna

473
00:18:43,096 --> 00:18:45,455
Speaker 3: have some valley moments and like you're gonna miskicks. But

474
00:18:45,776 --> 00:18:47,735
Speaker 3: what's gonna determine how long you play is how do

475
00:18:47,816 --> 00:18:50,736
Speaker 3: you respond after the miskick? And so, like you're exactly right.

476
00:18:51,056 --> 00:18:52,815
Speaker 3: Sometimes when you miss one, it's really easy to like

477
00:18:52,856 --> 00:18:55,735
Speaker 3: fall into that Pitmam, what did I do wrong? Overthink it, overcorrect,

478
00:18:55,776 --> 00:18:58,576
Speaker 3: and then it affects the next one. So that's something

479
00:18:58,576 --> 00:19:00,296
Speaker 3: where you have to I've learned, like, hey, you trust

480
00:19:00,296 --> 00:19:03,296
Speaker 3: your technique, you trust your preparation, and sometimes you're gonna miss,

481
00:19:03,336 --> 00:19:04,696
Speaker 3: but you have to go out there with the mentality

482
00:19:04,696 --> 00:19:06,295
Speaker 3: of like, hey, I'm not I'm not allowing that to

483
00:19:06,336 --> 00:19:08,096
Speaker 3: affect my mentality on the next kick.

484
00:19:08,256 --> 00:19:10,575
Speaker 4: I mean your rookie year, didn't you set the NFL

485
00:19:10,696 --> 00:19:13,176
Speaker 4: record for most kicks made by a rookie of any

486
00:19:13,215 --> 00:19:15,775
Speaker 4: franchise in the history of the NFL.

487
00:19:16,136 --> 00:19:17,656
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a pretty good deal. How about this.

488
00:19:17,856 --> 00:19:19,295
Speaker 4: We're third I think it was the third week of

489
00:19:19,296 --> 00:19:22,815
Speaker 4: the season, We're in Washington. We needed to rely on

490
00:19:22,856 --> 00:19:24,416
Speaker 4: this guy. I think he had five field goals in

491
00:19:24,416 --> 00:19:26,255
Speaker 4: that game. We actually ended up getting the win. And

492
00:19:26,296 --> 00:19:28,255
Speaker 4: so after the game they come over to interview me.

493
00:19:28,296 --> 00:19:30,016
Speaker 4: I don't know why they should have been interviewing him,

494
00:19:30,576 --> 00:19:34,576
Speaker 4: and for whatever reason, I have just a complete brain fart,

495
00:19:34,576 --> 00:19:37,176
Speaker 4: and they're like, so, talk about your kicker. I was like, yeah,

496
00:19:37,256 --> 00:19:41,416
Speaker 4: Ryan Suckoff did a great job. I literally call him

497
00:19:41,696 --> 00:19:44,176
Speaker 4: Ryan suck off three times and he comes up to

498
00:19:44,215 --> 00:19:47,055
Speaker 4: me a cast it suck up and I was like,

499
00:19:47,215 --> 00:19:49,336
Speaker 4: son of a gun dud, I'm so sorry.

500
00:19:49,416 --> 00:19:50,975
Speaker 3: Well it is true. And what's funny is one of

501
00:19:50,975 --> 00:19:53,176
Speaker 3: my best buzz growing up his grandfather, who was like

502
00:19:53,215 --> 00:19:55,736
Speaker 3: eighty five years old, what he would call me, Hey,

503
00:19:55,735 --> 00:19:58,376
Speaker 3: how suck off doing h and so like, it wasn't

504
00:19:58,376 --> 00:19:59,696
Speaker 3: the first time I'd heard it, but it was a

505
00:19:59,735 --> 00:20:02,376
Speaker 3: little more embarrassing when your starting quarterback says it to

506
00:20:02,416 --> 00:20:06,016
Speaker 3: the media not once, but three times. So it wasn't

507
00:20:05,776 --> 00:20:06,015
Speaker 3: a lot.

508
00:20:06,176 --> 00:20:08,696
Speaker 2: There wasn't a lot of interaction, let's be honest.

509
00:20:08,376 --> 00:20:11,975
Speaker 4: Because they call it themselves the specialists, right, it's usually

510
00:20:11,975 --> 00:20:15,416
Speaker 4: the punter, the place kicker, and then their snapper. They

511
00:20:15,536 --> 00:20:18,535
Speaker 4: kind of do their own thing, yea, And you don't like,

512
00:20:18,576 --> 00:20:20,336
Speaker 4: we don't spend a lot of time in eating together

513
00:20:20,416 --> 00:20:23,216
Speaker 4: or anything like that. So early in the season, Ryan's there,

514
00:20:23,256 --> 00:20:25,176
Speaker 4: and of course I know who Ryan is. But then

515
00:20:25,215 --> 00:20:26,656
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, the moment came to say his

516
00:20:26,735 --> 00:20:28,535
Speaker 4: name correctly, and I was like, I kind of know

517
00:20:28,576 --> 00:20:29,215
Speaker 4: how to say it.

518
00:20:29,936 --> 00:20:32,056
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna go with suck off it, ye, suck off,

519
00:20:32,096 --> 00:20:32,856
Speaker 3: suck off it is.

520
00:20:33,256 --> 00:20:36,136
Speaker 2: When you get to Kansas City and it gets cold,

521
00:20:37,056 --> 00:20:41,256
Speaker 2: the things change with how you prepare. Like he gets

522
00:20:41,256 --> 00:20:42,815
Speaker 2: cold at a certain time of the year, not just

523
00:20:42,896 --> 00:20:45,455
Speaker 2: the city, but you get like November, it starts to

524
00:20:45,455 --> 00:20:46,096
Speaker 2: suck it's.

525
00:20:45,896 --> 00:20:48,936
Speaker 3: Cool, Yeah, it does. He gets cold out there. Yeah.

526
00:20:48,975 --> 00:20:50,215
Speaker 3: I think the hard part is like a lot of

527
00:20:50,215 --> 00:20:52,376
Speaker 3: times that field out there would kind of stay frozen,

528
00:20:52,416 --> 00:20:54,136
Speaker 3: like you get into December, because they at the time,

529
00:20:54,176 --> 00:20:56,095
Speaker 3: I think they've changed it now, but they didn't have

530
00:20:56,136 --> 00:20:57,976
Speaker 3: like the heating coils under the field, so you would

531
00:20:57,975 --> 00:20:59,136
Speaker 3: go out and you'd have to like try to figure

532
00:20:59,136 --> 00:21:00,575
Speaker 3: out what kind of plant you to wear because the

533
00:21:00,576 --> 00:21:03,015
Speaker 3: field is literally frozen. So that was always like the

534
00:21:03,016 --> 00:21:04,815
Speaker 3: hardest thing. And then obviously you're kicking a ball that

535
00:21:05,016 --> 00:21:08,136
Speaker 3: is a rock that doesn't help you get no compression

536
00:21:08,176 --> 00:21:11,136
Speaker 3: when your foot hits it, So it's definitely more challenging.

537
00:21:12,016 --> 00:21:14,536
Speaker 3: But thankfully those heaters on the sideline are pretty nice

538
00:21:14,616 --> 00:21:15,896
Speaker 3: cast and well, let's.

539
00:21:15,735 --> 00:21:18,456
Speaker 4: Be honest to you, the kickers don't wear anything right,

540
00:21:18,495 --> 00:21:21,215
Speaker 4: They're always in. It looks like they're wearing shorts because

541
00:21:21,376 --> 00:21:23,215
Speaker 4: late later they're not gonna put a bunch of pads

542
00:21:23,296 --> 00:21:25,616
Speaker 4: or anything in there. So I can only imagine how

543
00:21:25,656 --> 00:21:27,936
Speaker 4: cold you get because you might kick once in the

544
00:21:27,936 --> 00:21:29,975
Speaker 4: first quarter and it might not be until the biggest

545
00:21:30,016 --> 00:21:31,416
Speaker 4: kick of the game in the fourth quarter that they're

546
00:21:31,416 --> 00:21:33,255
Speaker 4: asking you to come back in. How do you stay

547
00:21:33,296 --> 00:21:36,136
Speaker 4: warm in the during those moments you're just sitting by

548
00:21:36,136 --> 00:21:36,576
Speaker 4: the heater.

549
00:21:36,576 --> 00:21:38,176
Speaker 2: I see you kicking all the time on the side line.

550
00:21:38,176 --> 00:21:39,936
Speaker 2: I don't know it's going through your mind.

551
00:21:39,975 --> 00:21:41,776
Speaker 3: No, I would. I would definitely have one of those big,

552
00:21:42,016 --> 00:21:43,936
Speaker 3: the big Parka jackets, you know, those things would keep

553
00:21:43,936 --> 00:21:45,215
Speaker 3: you going. I'd go get one of those and stand

554
00:21:45,215 --> 00:21:46,816
Speaker 3: it right in front of the heater and just open

555
00:21:46,856 --> 00:21:48,696
Speaker 3: it up and just take all the all the flame

556
00:21:48,696 --> 00:21:50,576
Speaker 3: from those heaters, which which actually worked, and then just

557
00:21:50,616 --> 00:21:52,736
Speaker 3: try to keep moving because you're right cast. It's like, man,

558
00:21:52,735 --> 00:21:53,975
Speaker 3: you may have a kick in the first quarter and

559
00:21:53,975 --> 00:21:55,176
Speaker 3: then you may not be up to the third or

560
00:21:55,176 --> 00:21:56,656
Speaker 3: fourth quarter. So you got to stay in the game,

561
00:21:57,016 --> 00:21:59,376
Speaker 3: you know, obviously mentally, but physically as well. So if

562
00:21:59,376 --> 00:22:00,696
Speaker 3: you miss like a twenty eight yard or do you

563
00:22:00,735 --> 00:22:05,176
Speaker 3: feel like a loser. I've had some Yeah, I've had

564
00:22:05,176 --> 00:22:07,576
Speaker 3: some self talk over the years. You know you missed

565
00:22:07,576 --> 00:22:10,056
Speaker 3: a short one. It's you can be hard on yourself for.

566
00:22:09,936 --> 00:22:11,975
Speaker 2: Sure, Like what would be the reason you had missed

567
00:22:11,975 --> 00:22:12,536
Speaker 2: a short one?

568
00:22:12,856 --> 00:22:16,096
Speaker 3: Honestly, most of the time, probably like a lack of concentration,

569
00:22:16,376 --> 00:22:18,696
Speaker 3: just not like I would. I remember, I would always

570
00:22:18,735 --> 00:22:20,575
Speaker 3: be the if I had a pre game where I

571
00:22:20,616 --> 00:22:23,816
Speaker 3: didn't miss in pregame, like you go out and hit

572
00:22:23,896 --> 00:22:25,495
Speaker 3: twenty in a row and hit them perfect. Those are

573
00:22:25,495 --> 00:22:26,816
Speaker 3: the games that would sneak up on you and you'd

574
00:22:26,816 --> 00:22:29,056
Speaker 3: miss one in the game. Likewise, like the Washington game

575
00:22:29,215 --> 00:22:31,416
Speaker 3: when you talk about Matt that went well for us.

576
00:22:31,576 --> 00:22:33,136
Speaker 3: I remember I had like a terrible pregame. I was

577
00:22:33,136 --> 00:22:35,096
Speaker 3: missing kicks left and right, and then it was like,

578
00:22:35,096 --> 00:22:37,295
Speaker 3: oh man, I better lock in, Like I better lock in,

579
00:22:37,336 --> 00:22:38,616
Speaker 3: and then you out and have a great game. So

580
00:22:38,656 --> 00:22:40,015
Speaker 3: I think on a short one, I think it's just

581
00:22:40,056 --> 00:22:42,416
Speaker 3: like a discipline of like really locking in and not

582
00:22:42,455 --> 00:22:43,295
Speaker 3: taking it for granted.

583
00:22:43,416 --> 00:22:46,136
Speaker 4: Is there an adrenaline rush for you when you get

584
00:22:46,136 --> 00:22:48,176
Speaker 4: to the fourth quarter and you see the team in

585
00:22:48,215 --> 00:22:50,696
Speaker 4: a two minute drill and no, man, this might be

586
00:22:50,696 --> 00:22:52,336
Speaker 4: a really big moment for this team if we can

587
00:22:52,376 --> 00:22:55,096
Speaker 4: go down and get ourselves into position. Obviously you're like,

588
00:22:55,416 --> 00:22:57,376
Speaker 4: get me inside.

589
00:22:56,616 --> 00:22:57,376
Speaker 3: That thirty five.

590
00:22:57,536 --> 00:23:00,015
Speaker 4: Don't give me the fifty yarder, but get me inside.

591
00:23:00,056 --> 00:23:02,495
Speaker 4: But do you feel that energy inside of you? And

592
00:23:02,536 --> 00:23:05,496
Speaker 4: how do you kind of suppress that as it's going on.

593
00:23:05,856 --> 00:23:08,095
Speaker 3: Yeah, that you definitely feel it. That's probably the one

594
00:23:08,096 --> 00:23:11,096
Speaker 3: thing I'm miss I was I'm maybe a little different

595
00:23:11,215 --> 00:23:13,296
Speaker 3: or maybe a bit of a sicker. I like that,

596
00:23:13,376 --> 00:23:15,536
Speaker 3: Like I kind of liked that feeling of like coming

597
00:23:15,576 --> 00:23:17,336
Speaker 3: down to the it's a rush, Like it is a

598
00:23:17,416 --> 00:23:20,376
Speaker 3: rush that I haven't been able to replicate anywhere else.

599
00:23:20,416 --> 00:23:22,296
Speaker 3: Maybe this golf thing will if I can get in contingent,

600
00:23:22,296 --> 00:23:24,936
Speaker 3: maybe that'll scratch that edge a little bit. But uh, yeah,

601
00:23:24,936 --> 00:23:26,735
Speaker 3: it's a rush. And I think the thing that I

602
00:23:26,735 --> 00:23:28,536
Speaker 3: had to learn like early on where I would mess

603
00:23:28,576 --> 00:23:31,656
Speaker 3: up is I would get too like emotionally involved into

604
00:23:31,696 --> 00:23:33,056
Speaker 3: it right like before it And so one of the

605
00:23:33,056 --> 00:23:34,416
Speaker 3: things I had to learn was like, hey, I got

606
00:23:34,455 --> 00:23:37,055
Speaker 3: to stay really really steady the whole time because if

607
00:23:37,096 --> 00:23:38,856
Speaker 3: I get too high with the excitement of the game,

608
00:23:39,215 --> 00:23:40,976
Speaker 3: then it's like my heart rate gets up too high.

609
00:23:40,975 --> 00:23:43,536
Speaker 3: And now when I'm out there for the kick. I'm

610
00:23:43,576 --> 00:23:45,576
Speaker 3: not how I'm usually am in practice or how I

611
00:23:45,656 --> 00:23:47,576
Speaker 3: usually am in the game. So like trying to keep that,

612
00:23:48,176 --> 00:23:49,976
Speaker 3: you know, really steady with something I had to learn

613
00:23:50,016 --> 00:23:51,936
Speaker 3: how to do. And you know, the more that you

614
00:23:51,975 --> 00:23:54,015
Speaker 3: do it, like anything, the more comfortable you get with it.

615
00:23:54,056 --> 00:23:55,296
Speaker 3: And that was kind of a little bit of a

616
00:23:55,336 --> 00:23:56,376
Speaker 3: learning curve for me, for sure.

617
00:23:56,455 --> 00:23:58,735
Speaker 2: Did you always want the ball? Meaning did you always

618
00:23:58,735 --> 00:24:00,455
Speaker 2: want the kick? Or at times would you have rather

619
00:24:00,495 --> 00:24:01,936
Speaker 2: they just scored the touchdown and you not have to

620
00:24:01,975 --> 00:24:02,816
Speaker 2: worry about it?

621
00:24:03,056 --> 00:24:04,616
Speaker 3: Most of the time I would want to kick, unless

622
00:24:04,656 --> 00:24:06,575
Speaker 3: it was like a third mine hour wind day and

623
00:24:06,616 --> 00:24:08,496
Speaker 3: it was raining, and then I was like, man, let's

624
00:24:08,576 --> 00:24:10,295
Speaker 3: just go ahead and punch this in in. So like

625
00:24:10,336 --> 00:24:12,255
Speaker 3: those are the days where I would I would be

626
00:24:12,296 --> 00:24:13,775
Speaker 3: just fine if we, you know, just scored.

627
00:24:13,975 --> 00:24:16,255
Speaker 4: You you kicked a ton of game winning kicks throughout

628
00:24:16,256 --> 00:24:19,616
Speaker 4: your career, obviously, Or is do any few standout or

629
00:24:19,616 --> 00:24:20,616
Speaker 4: any one in particular?

630
00:24:21,336 --> 00:24:24,255
Speaker 3: Great question probably the one actually when I was here

631
00:24:24,296 --> 00:24:26,815
Speaker 3: with the Titans, we were talking about weather. It was

632
00:24:26,856 --> 00:24:29,816
Speaker 3: the coldest game in Erahead history. It was zero degrees

633
00:24:29,856 --> 00:24:31,496
Speaker 3: at kickoff, and I think the wind chill was like

634
00:24:31,656 --> 00:24:34,056
Speaker 3: twenty below eighteen or twenty or spit was freezing.

635
00:24:34,176 --> 00:24:36,095
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you would spit and it would freeze on

636
00:24:36,136 --> 00:24:36,816
Speaker 4: your face mask.

637
00:24:36,896 --> 00:24:38,416
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how cool. Yeah, if you had if you

638
00:24:38,416 --> 00:24:40,136
Speaker 3: took a shot of the water bottle and you missed,

639
00:24:40,256 --> 00:24:41,776
Speaker 3: by the time you would wipe it off your beard,

640
00:24:41,776 --> 00:24:43,576
Speaker 3: it would be it'd be kind of frozen in your

641
00:24:43,776 --> 00:24:46,656
Speaker 3: in your beard. But anyway, we I had it, and

642
00:24:46,696 --> 00:24:49,775
Speaker 3: it also was sweet because Kansas City had cut me

643
00:24:49,816 --> 00:24:51,256
Speaker 3: a couple of years before that. I started my career

644
00:24:51,256 --> 00:24:53,816
Speaker 3: in Kansas City. They had cut me, which is part

645
00:24:53,856 --> 00:24:57,255
Speaker 3: of it. And lost story short, we had I had

646
00:24:57,256 --> 00:24:59,136
Speaker 3: a fifty three yarder with I think no time left

647
00:24:59,136 --> 00:25:01,176
Speaker 3: to beat him, and that was like a kick where

648
00:25:01,816 --> 00:25:04,056
Speaker 3: it was just if you gave me that kick ten times.

649
00:25:04,096 --> 00:25:05,696
Speaker 3: And I said at the time, like as cold as

650
00:25:05,735 --> 00:25:07,176
Speaker 3: it was that day, like I don't know how many

651
00:25:07,176 --> 00:25:08,855
Speaker 3: of those I would have made, but made, but it

652
00:25:08,896 --> 00:25:11,056
Speaker 3: was just like it was just the perfect one.

653
00:25:11,056 --> 00:25:11,176
Speaker 4: Man.

654
00:25:11,215 --> 00:25:13,176
Speaker 3: It just timed up and UH was able to put

655
00:25:13,215 --> 00:25:14,136
Speaker 3: it through, which is pretty cool.

656
00:25:14,176 --> 00:25:16,496
Speaker 5: That was awesome, but didn't didn't they call a timeout,

657
00:25:17,136 --> 00:25:17,456
Speaker 5: so they.

658
00:25:17,416 --> 00:25:19,496
Speaker 2: Tried to ice them in an icy day.

659
00:25:22,016 --> 00:25:24,336
Speaker 4: He kicks the first one and it misses, but they

660
00:25:24,416 --> 00:25:26,736
Speaker 4: coach ice him right, so they called the time out.

661
00:25:26,816 --> 00:25:30,215
Speaker 4: So then he gets three t boom through the goalposted.

662
00:25:30,336 --> 00:25:31,775
Speaker 4: It was wild, it was big.

663
00:25:32,016 --> 00:25:34,576
Speaker 2: How do you feel about icing the kicker?

664
00:25:35,416 --> 00:25:37,535
Speaker 3: Great question? I like it, Like if you call the

665
00:25:37,536 --> 00:25:39,535
Speaker 3: time out. It allowed me time to go out and

666
00:25:39,735 --> 00:25:43,096
Speaker 3: sort of like I'm a big visualization guy, and yeah,

667
00:25:43,696 --> 00:25:45,296
Speaker 3: it wasn't gonna make me any more nervous, Like it

668
00:25:45,336 --> 00:25:47,576
Speaker 3: would allow me to go out, take my steps, visualize,

669
00:25:47,616 --> 00:25:49,816
Speaker 3: make sure the plant you know where I'm planting's good,

670
00:25:50,376 --> 00:25:51,936
Speaker 3: see what the wind's doing. It just gave me a

671
00:25:51,975 --> 00:25:53,696
Speaker 3: little bit more time to prepare. So I always liked

672
00:25:53,696 --> 00:25:55,535
Speaker 3: it when I would get iced. If I was a

673
00:25:55,576 --> 00:25:57,295
Speaker 3: head coach, what I would do if I had a

674
00:25:57,336 --> 00:26:00,296
Speaker 3: time out left or two timeouts left, I would sit

675
00:26:00,336 --> 00:26:03,015
Speaker 3: over there by the official and look like you're going

676
00:26:03,096 --> 00:26:05,216
Speaker 3: to call it and not call it? That will mess

677
00:26:05,256 --> 00:26:07,255
Speaker 3: with the guy? Does this mess with you? Well, you

678
00:26:07,416 --> 00:26:08,976
Speaker 3: kind of had to learn. So I had to learn

679
00:26:09,495 --> 00:26:11,015
Speaker 3: not to ever look over there. So I had to

680
00:26:11,016 --> 00:26:12,376
Speaker 3: get in my head like if they had a time

681
00:26:12,416 --> 00:26:14,456
Speaker 3: out left, if you allow yourself to play the game

682
00:26:14,455 --> 00:26:15,815
Speaker 3: of like, man, I wonder if he's gonna call the

683
00:26:15,816 --> 00:26:17,696
Speaker 3: time out. I wonder if not, you're not gonna be focused,

684
00:26:17,696 --> 00:26:19,136
Speaker 3: and then he doesn't call out, you're gonna have a

685
00:26:19,176 --> 00:26:21,256
Speaker 3: better chance to miss that kick. So that would always

686
00:26:21,296 --> 00:26:23,936
Speaker 3: be my strategy. But like calling the time out right

687
00:26:23,975 --> 00:26:26,056
Speaker 3: before the snap, like like that one in Kansas City,

688
00:26:26,136 --> 00:26:27,696
Speaker 3: Like I knew that he had called time out, and

689
00:26:27,696 --> 00:26:29,296
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna

690
00:26:29,336 --> 00:26:30,896
Speaker 3: hit one. Because it's like you guys play golf, like

691
00:26:30,936 --> 00:26:33,656
Speaker 3: the second t shots always easier than the first. My

692
00:26:33,776 --> 00:26:36,215
Speaker 3: mulligan always I'm gonna go hit. I'm gonna go ahead.

693
00:26:36,455 --> 00:26:38,416
Speaker 3: Say that's the second guy he can play. That second

694
00:26:38,416 --> 00:26:40,535
Speaker 3: guy he can he can play.

695
00:26:41,096 --> 00:26:42,336
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I.

696
00:26:42,296 --> 00:26:45,136
Speaker 4: Mean I remember that day that that was a crazy

697
00:26:45,215 --> 00:26:46,975
Speaker 4: day in the weather and everything else. But I was

698
00:26:46,975 --> 00:26:48,896
Speaker 4: so happy for you after that game. Is there anything

699
00:26:48,936 --> 00:26:51,295
Speaker 4: better than kicking a game winning kick? Because you know,

700
00:26:51,816 --> 00:26:53,576
Speaker 4: like you guys don't get all the credit in the world.

701
00:26:53,576 --> 00:26:55,616
Speaker 4: In a lot of times, you only get credit for

702
00:26:55,656 --> 00:26:58,575
Speaker 4: when you have a game winning kick or if you

703
00:26:58,656 --> 00:27:00,776
Speaker 4: do something where you miss, ye.

704
00:27:02,296 --> 00:27:04,815
Speaker 2: Oh well damn kicker one job.

705
00:27:05,096 --> 00:27:06,096
Speaker 3: But that's right.

706
00:27:06,215 --> 00:27:09,536
Speaker 4: But when you do get it done, and I mean

707
00:27:09,656 --> 00:27:11,936
Speaker 4: everybody on the team feels that and like I just

708
00:27:11,975 --> 00:27:14,055
Speaker 4: remember coming out on the field on those types of

709
00:27:14,096 --> 00:27:17,336
Speaker 4: moments and celebrating and what's that what's that feel like

710
00:27:17,416 --> 00:27:17,616
Speaker 4: for you?

711
00:27:17,936 --> 00:27:20,255
Speaker 3: It is it's awesome because you're doing it, like you

712
00:27:20,296 --> 00:27:22,296
Speaker 3: know how it is like there's nothing like the locker room.

713
00:27:22,376 --> 00:27:24,856
Speaker 3: Like the locker room is the most awesome place man,

714
00:27:24,856 --> 00:27:26,616
Speaker 3: where you're you're doing it with your boys, you're working

715
00:27:26,656 --> 00:27:28,976
Speaker 3: hard together, especially like on an away game, a game

716
00:27:28,975 --> 00:27:31,496
Speaker 3: winner on an away game where it's like just your

717
00:27:31,536 --> 00:27:33,495
Speaker 3: guys in the locker room after the game, the plane

718
00:27:33,576 --> 00:27:36,616
Speaker 3: ride home. It's just a like you can't really create

719
00:27:36,616 --> 00:27:38,656
Speaker 3: that everymain places. So that's that's what you miss, is

720
00:27:38,696 --> 00:27:40,856
Speaker 3: like those those moments where you're just getting to celebrate

721
00:27:40,896 --> 00:27:42,775
Speaker 3: with your boys and it is. It's a it's a

722
00:27:42,816 --> 00:27:43,776
Speaker 3: it's a cool feeling for sure.

723
00:27:43,896 --> 00:27:45,856
Speaker 2: Let's go back to college. You play South Carolina.

724
00:27:45,616 --> 00:27:46,416
Speaker 3: Plays South Carolina.

725
00:27:46,495 --> 00:27:48,735
Speaker 2: Were you as a kicker? Were you like big man

726
00:27:48,776 --> 00:27:51,455
Speaker 2: on campus football player as a kicker at South Carolina?

727
00:27:52,096 --> 00:27:55,096
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I know. I mean, listen to

728
00:27:55,176 --> 00:27:56,975
Speaker 3: South Carolina was great as far as like the fans,

729
00:27:56,975 --> 00:27:59,936
Speaker 3: they love their football team, they love you know, they

730
00:28:00,016 --> 00:28:01,896
Speaker 3: love supporting it. It was an awesome place to play, had

731
00:28:01,896 --> 00:28:05,215
Speaker 3: a great experience. But no, I tried to. I tried to,

732
00:28:05,256 --> 00:28:07,696
Speaker 3: like I wanted to be, uh, you know who's who's

733
00:28:07,696 --> 00:28:11,536
Speaker 3: your coach there, Steve spur spur You got to give.

734
00:28:11,455 --> 00:28:13,456
Speaker 2: A communication with him, like did you talk with him?

735
00:28:13,576 --> 00:28:16,055
Speaker 3: Yes? Because coach Spurr is a huge golfer and so

736
00:28:16,096 --> 00:28:17,975
Speaker 3: he knew that I played golf. And actually when he

737
00:28:18,016 --> 00:28:20,816
Speaker 3: recruited me, I was actually getting ready to go to Auburn.

738
00:28:20,856 --> 00:28:23,176
Speaker 3: I got offered by Auburn really late. Coach Spurr came

739
00:28:23,215 --> 00:28:25,336
Speaker 3: to my house, did the visit, and he's like, Ryan,

740
00:28:25,376 --> 00:28:27,696
Speaker 3: if you come to South Carolina. He's like, I I've

741
00:28:27,735 --> 00:28:30,015
Speaker 3: always give my players that are good golfers. I always

742
00:28:30,016 --> 00:28:31,696
Speaker 3: give him a chance to beat me. He goes, I've

743
00:28:31,696 --> 00:28:34,535
Speaker 3: never been beat because spur loved to play golf. And

744
00:28:34,576 --> 00:28:36,015
Speaker 3: I was like, man, like, it's not the reason I

745
00:28:36,056 --> 00:28:40,376
Speaker 3: went to South Carolina, but I was I'm gonna stick

746
00:28:40,416 --> 00:28:42,056
Speaker 3: to yeah, but I was thinking, like, man, that would

747
00:28:42,056 --> 00:28:43,496
Speaker 3: be cool to like play off with the head coach.

748
00:28:43,696 --> 00:28:46,016
Speaker 3: Long story short, I end up committing to South Carolina.

749
00:28:46,096 --> 00:28:48,816
Speaker 3: I go to school there. I'm going into my senior

750
00:28:48,896 --> 00:28:50,416
Speaker 3: year and we've never played golf, and in the back

751
00:28:50,416 --> 00:28:52,016
Speaker 3: of the line, I'm like, man, that dog like he

752
00:28:52,096 --> 00:28:53,256
Speaker 3: was just trying to get me to come here. We're

753
00:28:53,296 --> 00:28:55,336
Speaker 3: never gonna play golf. Well, sure enough, the spring game

754
00:28:55,376 --> 00:28:56,856
Speaker 3: of my senior year, he comes up to me and

755
00:28:56,856 --> 00:28:58,656
Speaker 3: he's like he actually called me sucky.

756
00:28:58,736 --> 00:28:59,016
Speaker 2: That was my.

757
00:29:00,936 --> 00:29:02,736
Speaker 3: Sucky. He said, hey, what you what you doing tomorrow?

758
00:29:02,776 --> 00:29:04,736
Speaker 3: And I'm like, coach, I got I got nothing. I

759
00:29:04,736 --> 00:29:06,656
Speaker 3: mean's you know. He's like all right, He's like, tomorrow

760
00:29:06,776 --> 00:29:08,816
Speaker 3: is my sixty third birthday. He goes, I'm playing sixty

761
00:29:08,816 --> 00:29:10,376
Speaker 3: three holes of golf. Why don't you play the first

762
00:29:10,376 --> 00:29:11,856
Speaker 3: eight team with me and see if you can beat me.

763
00:29:12,176 --> 00:29:13,776
Speaker 3: I'm like, in the back of the line, I'm thinking, like, man,

764
00:29:13,816 --> 00:29:15,456
Speaker 3: I hadn't hit a golf ball in six months. Like

765
00:29:15,496 --> 00:29:18,016
Speaker 3: I'm in college, I'm playing football, but I can't say no.

766
00:29:18,056 --> 00:29:19,776
Speaker 3: If I say no, I'll never get a chance. Man.

767
00:29:19,816 --> 00:29:21,736
Speaker 3: I go out. I'm like five over through the first

768
00:29:21,776 --> 00:29:24,976
Speaker 3: three holes. He's even par. We're playing his teas, like

769
00:29:25,016 --> 00:29:27,096
Speaker 3: I can't hit dry. I'm hitting three iron off every tea.

770
00:29:27,176 --> 00:29:27,336
Speaker 2: You know.

771
00:29:27,376 --> 00:29:29,936
Speaker 3: It's just like he's he's got it. So anyway, I

772
00:29:30,016 --> 00:29:32,136
Speaker 3: end up like playing a little bit better on the

773
00:29:32,176 --> 00:29:34,575
Speaker 3: back nine, get it, I think, all tied up and

774
00:29:34,576 --> 00:29:36,335
Speaker 3: then I end up hitting a shot on a par

775
00:29:36,416 --> 00:29:38,056
Speaker 3: three over the green, make bogey. He makes par and

776
00:29:38,056 --> 00:29:38,496
Speaker 3: he beats me.

777
00:29:38,616 --> 00:29:41,216
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know.

778
00:29:41,376 --> 00:29:43,936
Speaker 3: And he he beat me, and you know that was

779
00:29:44,336 --> 00:29:46,616
Speaker 3: he he he loved it though he was competitive, he

780
00:29:46,656 --> 00:29:48,536
Speaker 3: was a great player. And uh yeah that was that

781
00:29:48,576 --> 00:29:49,496
Speaker 3: was cool to get to play with him.

782
00:29:49,496 --> 00:29:51,696
Speaker 2: Did you get a picture of that day like afterward

783
00:29:51,736 --> 00:29:52,736
Speaker 2: with you and Coach Berrier?

784
00:29:53,816 --> 00:29:55,016
Speaker 3: You know what? I don't think I did.

785
00:29:55,096 --> 00:29:56,136
Speaker 2: Man, you missed.

786
00:29:56,176 --> 00:29:58,096
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would have been That would have been cool. Yeah,

787
00:29:58,136 --> 00:29:59,296
Speaker 3: that would have been cool. I don't think I got

788
00:29:59,336 --> 00:29:59,896
Speaker 3: a pick. Yeah.

789
00:30:00,136 --> 00:30:03,296
Speaker 4: So, locker room, like you said, is a very interesting place.

790
00:30:03,296 --> 00:30:06,976
Speaker 4: And I know that you and Dustin Cole were They

791
00:30:06,976 --> 00:30:08,776
Speaker 4: were like two pranksters and they would do all this

792
00:30:08,816 --> 00:30:10,696
Speaker 4: stuff in the locker room that nobody ever really knew

793
00:30:10,736 --> 00:30:12,896
Speaker 4: about until you actually figured out the prank was on you.

794
00:30:13,016 --> 00:30:16,335
Speaker 4: So tell me some of your favorite memories being inside

795
00:30:16,336 --> 00:30:17,976
Speaker 4: that locker room, some of the pranks that used to

796
00:30:17,976 --> 00:30:18,696
Speaker 4: pull on people.

797
00:30:19,136 --> 00:30:21,016
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, let me just say Dustin was one of

798
00:30:21,016 --> 00:30:23,496
Speaker 3: a kind, uh Tennessee, Tennessee. Of all, I'm sure a

799
00:30:23,536 --> 00:30:26,216
Speaker 3: lot of people around here love Dustin. He was great.

800
00:30:26,296 --> 00:30:27,896
Speaker 3: I think the one that comes to mind was the

801
00:30:27,896 --> 00:30:29,296
Speaker 3: one that was kind of you know, like the best

802
00:30:29,296 --> 00:30:32,496
Speaker 3: pranks were usually like Allen accident almost and I'll never forget.

803
00:30:32,496 --> 00:30:34,976
Speaker 3: I'm driving in to the facility, and in Kansas City,

804
00:30:34,976 --> 00:30:37,216
Speaker 3: the practice facility you kind of have. You have the

805
00:30:37,296 --> 00:30:39,416
Speaker 3: Royal Stadium, you have Arrowhead, and then you have the

806
00:30:39,416 --> 00:30:41,976
Speaker 3: practice facility. They're kind of all all together. And I'm

807
00:30:42,016 --> 00:30:44,416
Speaker 3: driving in one morning in probably about this time of year,

808
00:30:44,416 --> 00:30:46,696
Speaker 3: probably in October, and there was a little field right across

809
00:30:46,696 --> 00:30:48,096
Speaker 3: from the practice fields, and I look out and there's

810
00:30:48,096 --> 00:30:49,536
Speaker 3: like a really nice white tailed deer, like an eight

811
00:30:49,536 --> 00:30:51,496
Speaker 3: point buck out in the field. And I loved the

812
00:30:51,536 --> 00:30:54,136
Speaker 3: bow hunt and kind of you know, enjoyed doing that.

813
00:30:54,816 --> 00:30:56,456
Speaker 3: So I go in and tell Dustin about it. I'm like, dude,

814
00:30:56,456 --> 00:30:58,136
Speaker 3: there's a nice buck out there. Like we need to

815
00:30:58,216 --> 00:31:00,816
Speaker 3: set up a trail camp. So when Matt and everybody

816
00:31:00,816 --> 00:31:03,815
Speaker 3: else were in offensive and defensive meetings, you know, we

817
00:31:03,856 --> 00:31:06,256
Speaker 3: had two hours before practice with nothing to do because

818
00:31:06,256 --> 00:31:08,936
Speaker 3: we're specialists, and we go down to the Bass Pro

819
00:31:08,976 --> 00:31:10,536
Speaker 3: shop that's like ten minutes down the road. We get

820
00:31:10,536 --> 00:31:12,096
Speaker 3: a bunch of corn, we get the trail cam. We

821
00:31:12,136 --> 00:31:15,336
Speaker 3: set it all up and we start getting like unlo

822
00:31:15,376 --> 00:31:17,896
Speaker 3: I mean, we're getting pictures of like beautiful deer, turkeys,

823
00:31:17,976 --> 00:31:19,696
Speaker 3: you know, you might have like the neighbor's cat on

824
00:31:19,736 --> 00:31:21,776
Speaker 3: their show up. We're getting all these pictures, and guys

825
00:31:21,816 --> 00:31:24,096
Speaker 3: started taking interest in it. So we would put the

826
00:31:24,176 --> 00:31:26,336
Speaker 3: we would print the pictures out of all the wildlife,

827
00:31:26,336 --> 00:31:28,056
Speaker 3: and we would put it on the board in the

828
00:31:28,056 --> 00:31:29,856
Speaker 3: locker room because everybody woud always asking, hey, what'd you

829
00:31:29,856 --> 00:31:32,456
Speaker 3: see last night? Because we go out and check the card. Well,

830
00:31:32,456 --> 00:31:34,376
Speaker 3: I never forget were getting really played New England on

831
00:31:34,456 --> 00:31:37,016
Speaker 3: Monday night football and I'm eating pre game meal and

832
00:31:37,016 --> 00:31:39,856
Speaker 3: I think it was Brandon Albert. You remember, was he

833
00:31:39,896 --> 00:31:41,656
Speaker 3: from like Brooklyn, New York? I think yeah, he was

834
00:31:41,696 --> 00:31:44,376
Speaker 3: a New York Yeah, And Brandon's like, hey, suck up, man,

835
00:31:44,736 --> 00:31:46,776
Speaker 3: what else do you guys seen on that trail cam? And

836
00:31:46,856 --> 00:31:48,896
Speaker 3: a buddy of mine, like thirty minutes before that, had

837
00:31:48,936 --> 00:31:52,936
Speaker 3: just randomly sent me a picture from like a random

838
00:31:52,976 --> 00:31:54,856
Speaker 3: trail cam. It was like going around the Internet of

839
00:31:54,936 --> 00:31:57,736
Speaker 3: a mountain lion that had a deer by the throat,

840
00:31:57,896 --> 00:32:00,776
Speaker 3: this gnarly looking mountain line, and it just like hitting

841
00:32:00,776 --> 00:32:02,216
Speaker 3: it was like that light bulb moment. I'm like, Brandon,

842
00:32:02,216 --> 00:32:04,016
Speaker 3: you're not gonna believe this. And I pull up the

843
00:32:04,016 --> 00:32:05,856
Speaker 3: picture and I show them the picture. He's like his

844
00:32:05,896 --> 00:32:08,136
Speaker 3: eyes get this big and he's like you saw that

845
00:32:08,136 --> 00:32:12,096
Speaker 3: out outside offcil and so, and I just I'm like

846
00:32:12,136 --> 00:32:13,656
Speaker 3: in that wild like I just kind of let it go. Well,

847
00:32:13,696 --> 00:32:15,176
Speaker 3: sure enough, we go play New England. I think we

848
00:32:15,296 --> 00:32:17,176
Speaker 3: I don't think we won that game. Get back, you know,

849
00:32:17,256 --> 00:32:20,216
Speaker 3: early Tuesday morning. Like I go into work on Wednesday

850
00:32:20,296 --> 00:32:21,656
Speaker 3: and I have like five or six guys come up

851
00:32:21,696 --> 00:32:22,976
Speaker 3: to me and they're like, hey, what's the deal with

852
00:32:23,016 --> 00:32:25,536
Speaker 3: this mountain line? And so I'm like, man, look like,

853
00:32:26,296 --> 00:32:28,575
Speaker 3: don't worry about it. I'm like, man, these things, you know,

854
00:32:28,696 --> 00:32:30,696
Speaker 3: I said, they're only the only time these things are

855
00:32:30,736 --> 00:32:33,256
Speaker 3: even moving is either at dawn or dusk. Like the

856
00:32:33,336 --> 00:32:34,816
Speaker 3: rest of the time they're just sleeping. Like, don't worry

857
00:32:34,856 --> 00:32:36,336
Speaker 3: about it. And I know that the guys get there,

858
00:32:36,576 --> 00:32:40,575
Speaker 3: they get there at sunrise, they leave at sunset. So like,

859
00:32:40,656 --> 00:32:42,696
Speaker 3: so Dustin's in on it. We got we got three

860
00:32:42,736 --> 00:32:44,136
Speaker 3: or four guys that are in on it. We're all,

861
00:32:44,216 --> 00:32:46,336
Speaker 3: you know, sticking to our guns. Well, sure enough, I'm

862
00:32:46,376 --> 00:32:48,616
Speaker 3: driving into work one morning and I start noticing in

863
00:32:48,696 --> 00:32:51,296
Speaker 3: October it's it's typically still hot, so you would want

864
00:32:51,296 --> 00:32:53,216
Speaker 3: to park up against the tree line in the parking

865
00:32:53,256 --> 00:32:55,456
Speaker 3: lot so that you would get a little shade. And

866
00:32:55,496 --> 00:32:57,616
Speaker 3: I drive in one morning, I start noticing, like nobody's

867
00:32:57,616 --> 00:32:59,536
Speaker 3: parking along the tree line anymore. They're all parking like

868
00:32:59,576 --> 00:33:01,776
Speaker 3: as close as they can, as close as they can

869
00:33:01,856 --> 00:33:04,456
Speaker 3: to the door. And uh so then I sat there

870
00:33:04,496 --> 00:33:06,575
Speaker 3: and watch them, and you know, you'd watch guys get

871
00:33:06,616 --> 00:33:08,696
Speaker 3: out of their car and not that they would like sprint,

872
00:33:08,736 --> 00:33:10,936
Speaker 3: but you could tell it was like a brisk walk

873
00:33:10,976 --> 00:33:12,536
Speaker 3: to the you know, to the facility. They were worried

874
00:33:12,576 --> 00:33:14,575
Speaker 3: about this thing. So Dustin and I we thought it

875
00:33:14,576 --> 00:33:17,096
Speaker 3: was hilarious. Todd Haley actually was in on it. He

876
00:33:17,256 --> 00:33:19,456
Speaker 3: loved it. He thought it was hilarious. Well, sure enough,

877
00:33:19,456 --> 00:33:22,176
Speaker 3: this goes on for like three weeks. I'm driving home

878
00:33:22,216 --> 00:33:24,456
Speaker 3: from work one day and on the local sports talk

879
00:33:24,536 --> 00:33:27,096
Speaker 3: radio they start talking about how.

880
00:33:27,176 --> 00:33:27,896
Speaker 2: The Mountain line.

881
00:33:28,016 --> 00:33:29,656
Speaker 3: Yes, first of all, they're like, we had lost like

882
00:33:29,656 --> 00:33:31,576
Speaker 3: two or three games in a row, and they opened

883
00:33:31,576 --> 00:33:33,616
Speaker 3: it up. They're like, if things aren't bad enough in

884
00:33:33,656 --> 00:33:36,416
Speaker 3: the locker room, now they have to contend with a

885
00:33:36,496 --> 00:33:41,376
Speaker 3: mountain lion that is running Arrowhead Stadium. So this gets

886
00:33:41,376 --> 00:33:42,776
Speaker 3: on the news and I'm sitting here thinking I'm like

887
00:33:42,816 --> 00:33:44,736
Speaker 3: a second year guy and I'm like, oh my gosh,

888
00:33:44,776 --> 00:33:47,736
Speaker 3: this is not good. Like I'm responsible for this. Like,

889
00:33:47,816 --> 00:33:49,976
Speaker 3: don't be a distraction, is what Scott Poley would say,

890
00:33:49,976 --> 00:33:52,456
Speaker 3: all the guys, don't be a distraction. I'm thinking I'm

891
00:33:52,456 --> 00:33:55,896
Speaker 3: a distraction right now, like I'm gonna get you know whatever. Well,

892
00:33:55,936 --> 00:33:58,696
Speaker 3: sure enough, the media ends up asking Todd Haley about it.

893
00:33:58,696 --> 00:34:01,976
Speaker 3: In the Friday press conference. He played along with it. Basically,

894
00:34:02,016 --> 00:34:03,656
Speaker 3: he was like, yeah, I've seen the pictures of the cat.

895
00:34:03,816 --> 00:34:07,056
Speaker 3: I've told all the guys or leaving the facility. The

896
00:34:07,096 --> 00:34:11,456
Speaker 3: buddy system is in effect. So this thing, like this thing,

897
00:34:12,376 --> 00:34:14,815
Speaker 3: this thing goes everywhere. You could still read articles about

898
00:34:14,816 --> 00:34:18,176
Speaker 3: it about the mountain lion that was roaming the Chiefs facility.

899
00:34:18,376 --> 00:34:21,256
Speaker 3: The neighbors that lived in the area ended up getting concerned.

900
00:34:21,256 --> 00:34:23,815
Speaker 3: So the Department of Wildlife ended up calling the chief

901
00:34:23,896 --> 00:34:26,016
Speaker 3: to find out to see the pictures. And that's when

902
00:34:26,016 --> 00:34:27,376
Speaker 3: we had to tell them, hey, this is a locker

903
00:34:27,416 --> 00:34:27,816
Speaker 3: room joke.

904
00:34:27,856 --> 00:34:30,616
Speaker 2: That excellent.

905
00:34:30,736 --> 00:34:32,656
Speaker 3: It was. That was probably my That was probably one

906
00:34:32,656 --> 00:34:34,256
Speaker 3: of my prouder you know, that was one of my

907
00:34:34,296 --> 00:34:34,976
Speaker 3: Prouder pranks.

908
00:34:35,056 --> 00:34:36,256
Speaker 2: It's a great moment right there.

909
00:34:36,336 --> 00:34:38,736
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was pretty good. It need the local news.

910
00:34:39,136 --> 00:34:42,296
Speaker 3: It was pretty good. Plus take news, take news.

911
00:34:57,296 --> 00:34:59,216
Speaker 2: When you win the super Bowl, you're in Tampa, you

912
00:34:59,216 --> 00:35:01,336
Speaker 2: win the super Bowl. Obviously it's not as cold down there.

913
00:35:01,776 --> 00:35:03,976
Speaker 2: Is it weirder? Is it even more harsh when you

914
00:35:04,016 --> 00:35:06,976
Speaker 2: have to go somewhere cold when you don't constantly live

915
00:35:07,016 --> 00:35:07,816
Speaker 2: somewhere cold?

916
00:35:08,416 --> 00:35:10,656
Speaker 3: No, Like, so people would always say, like, oh, you're

917
00:35:10,656 --> 00:35:13,216
Speaker 3: in Kansas City, like you get used to the cold. Like, no,

918
00:35:13,336 --> 00:35:14,856
Speaker 3: you do not get used to the cold. Like it

919
00:35:15,096 --> 00:35:17,296
Speaker 3: cold is cold. I don't care how often you do it. So, like,

920
00:35:17,336 --> 00:35:18,696
Speaker 3: even when I was in Tampa and we would like

921
00:35:18,776 --> 00:35:21,296
Speaker 3: the NFC Championship, we played in Green Bay and it

922
00:35:21,456 --> 00:35:23,896
Speaker 3: snowed like five inches that morning and thankfully by the

923
00:35:23,936 --> 00:35:26,136
Speaker 3: time the game started the snow had cleared out, but

924
00:35:26,176 --> 00:35:27,856
Speaker 3: it was really cold and we were coming from Tampa

925
00:35:27,896 --> 00:35:29,496
Speaker 3: and we like, I was fine, you know what I mean?

926
00:35:29,536 --> 00:35:31,296
Speaker 3: It was it was still cold, but I don't think

927
00:35:31,296 --> 00:35:33,296
Speaker 3: it necessarily would have helped to have been there all

928
00:35:33,336 --> 00:35:35,376
Speaker 3: week to practice. I just I feel like it's gonna

929
00:35:35,376 --> 00:35:36,176
Speaker 3: be cold no matter what you do.

930
00:35:36,336 --> 00:35:39,856
Speaker 4: What was the after party like for the Super Bowl? Well,

931
00:35:39,896 --> 00:35:43,176
Speaker 4: it was it had to be Epic Mountain, Lion Mountain.

932
00:35:44,416 --> 00:35:46,576
Speaker 2: A lot of cougars run around those parties.

933
00:35:49,776 --> 00:35:53,936
Speaker 3: Okay, so you're not right, man. So in truly enough,

934
00:35:53,976 --> 00:35:55,936
Speaker 3: the super Bowl we were. It was in Tampa. We

935
00:35:55,936 --> 00:35:57,496
Speaker 3: played the super Bowl in Tampa, so we were like

936
00:35:57,536 --> 00:35:59,616
Speaker 3: the first team to win it in our home stadium

937
00:36:00,056 --> 00:36:02,496
Speaker 3: and it was awesome to do that. But it was

938
00:36:02,536 --> 00:36:04,736
Speaker 3: also the COVID year, so the super Bowl party had

939
00:36:04,736 --> 00:36:07,096
Speaker 3: to be outside, so because there were all these rules

940
00:36:07,096 --> 00:36:08,656
Speaker 3: and all this stuff. So we had it at like

941
00:36:08,696 --> 00:36:12,456
Speaker 3: the Tampa Aquarium or something on the water. And I'll

942
00:36:12,496 --> 00:36:14,576
Speaker 3: never forget. Like, you're going to the super Bowl, gets

943
00:36:14,616 --> 00:36:16,936
Speaker 3: over at whatever time, eleven o'clock at night. By the

944
00:36:16,976 --> 00:36:19,936
Speaker 3: time we get over there, it's midnight. My wife is

945
00:36:19,976 --> 00:36:22,216
Speaker 3: like seven months pregnant. You know, she's exhausted. She's been

946
00:36:22,256 --> 00:36:24,616
Speaker 3: taking care of our other two kids all night. And uh,

947
00:36:25,136 --> 00:36:27,336
Speaker 3: we walk in, but my family's there. We walk in

948
00:36:27,416 --> 00:36:30,136
Speaker 3: and it was uh, I think Ludacris was playing and

949
00:36:31,016 --> 00:36:34,256
Speaker 3: Migos Is that is that? Okay? Yeah? And so they

950
00:36:34,256 --> 00:36:36,376
Speaker 3: come in they're playing the music we're all hanging out,

951
00:36:36,376 --> 00:36:38,216
Speaker 3: and I'll never forget. I look over my dad. I

952
00:36:38,216 --> 00:36:40,816
Speaker 3: mean he's probably seventy years old now, he's just whatever,

953
00:36:40,856 --> 00:36:43,856
Speaker 3: sixty seven, sixty eight, and you know, here's Migos wrapping,

954
00:36:43,896 --> 00:36:45,376
Speaker 3: and I just see my dad. He's just kind of

955
00:36:45,456 --> 00:36:47,616
Speaker 3: he's just kind of digging the music and he's like, man,

956
00:36:47,656 --> 00:36:51,416
Speaker 3: this is this Migos. Guy's really good. Yeah, Dad, he's awesome.

957
00:36:52,336 --> 00:36:54,976
Speaker 3: But no, it was awesome. I remember we probably left

958
00:36:55,016 --> 00:36:56,976
Speaker 3: the super Bowl party at like two thirty three in

959
00:36:57,016 --> 00:36:59,776
Speaker 3: the morning. We were staying in a hotel because you

960
00:36:59,816 --> 00:37:01,616
Speaker 3: stayed in the hotel the night before the super Bowl,

961
00:37:01,976 --> 00:37:04,016
Speaker 3: even though we were in Tampa, and I just remember

962
00:37:04,056 --> 00:37:05,855
Speaker 3: it was it was kind of this like shurreal because

963
00:37:05,856 --> 00:37:07,976
Speaker 3: you get in at three, I'm wired, we just want

964
00:37:07,976 --> 00:37:09,736
Speaker 3: the super Bowl, can't sleep at all. And then I

965
00:37:09,736 --> 00:37:11,136
Speaker 3: have two young kids and they're up at like five

966
00:37:11,136 --> 00:37:12,816
Speaker 3: point thirty just read it rock and roll. They could

967
00:37:12,856 --> 00:37:14,176
Speaker 3: care less. They just wanted to go to the park.

968
00:37:14,216 --> 00:37:16,296
Speaker 3: So at like seven am, we're at like some random

969
00:37:16,336 --> 00:37:18,176
Speaker 3: park in Tampa, just like pushing my kids on the

970
00:37:18,216 --> 00:37:20,696
Speaker 3: swing and they could care less about the super Bowl.

971
00:37:20,696 --> 00:37:22,256
Speaker 3: But I guess that's what was sweet about it.

972
00:37:22,416 --> 00:37:24,576
Speaker 2: Can you give me a Tom Brady story from that year?

973
00:37:25,536 --> 00:37:28,336
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's see, Okay, this is this is probably like

974
00:37:28,376 --> 00:37:30,256
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is when it's like exciting

975
00:37:30,336 --> 00:37:32,536
Speaker 3: or anything, but this is Tom, and I always share this,

976
00:37:33,056 --> 00:37:36,656
Speaker 3: like Tom was an unbelievable leader, unbelievable teammate, but I

977
00:37:36,656 --> 00:37:38,256
Speaker 3: don't think a lot of people know, like he is

978
00:37:38,296 --> 00:37:41,456
Speaker 3: a genuinely good dude. And I'll never forget. He has

979
00:37:41,496 --> 00:37:43,856
Speaker 3: this guy Alice Carrero, who like takes care of all

980
00:37:43,896 --> 00:37:46,696
Speaker 3: his tissue work, his nutrition. Like he's been with Tom

981
00:37:46,736 --> 00:37:50,376
Speaker 3: for like what sixteen, I mean, he's been with him

982
00:37:50,376 --> 00:37:54,176
Speaker 3: for forever. And Tom would always work with him really

983
00:37:54,256 --> 00:37:56,736
Speaker 3: every day of the week, but particularly on Sunday on

984
00:37:56,776 --> 00:37:59,056
Speaker 3: game day. And so Tom was like generous enough to

985
00:37:59,136 --> 00:38:01,216
Speaker 3: let other guys work with Alex when he wasn't using them.

986
00:38:01,256 --> 00:38:02,616
Speaker 3: And I'll never forget. I would always try to get

987
00:38:02,656 --> 00:38:04,736
Speaker 3: the stadium like super early because I never wanted to

988
00:38:04,736 --> 00:38:07,576
Speaker 3: like be in there in being Tom's way. And we're

989
00:38:07,576 --> 00:38:09,416
Speaker 3: playing the Vikings my first year out I think it

990
00:38:09,456 --> 00:38:12,216
Speaker 3: was my first year down there, and I get there,

991
00:38:12,296 --> 00:38:14,456
Speaker 3: you know, eight am for a twelve o'clock game or whatever.

992
00:38:14,656 --> 00:38:16,456
Speaker 3: Alex is on. I'm on the table, Alex is working

993
00:38:16,496 --> 00:38:18,256
Speaker 3: on me, and Tom came in early that week because

994
00:38:18,256 --> 00:38:19,616
Speaker 3: I guess he was dealing with something. So he comes

995
00:38:19,656 --> 00:38:21,536
Speaker 3: in to get some tissue work and I'm trying to

996
00:38:21,536 --> 00:38:23,056
Speaker 3: get off that table as fast as I can. And

997
00:38:23,056 --> 00:38:25,176
Speaker 3: Tom's like, no, no, no, like hey, you're good man, like

998
00:38:25,216 --> 00:38:27,856
Speaker 3: you finish up. I'm like no, no, no, like hey, you

999
00:38:27,896 --> 00:38:29,736
Speaker 3: come get your work out, like I'll come back later,

1000
00:38:29,816 --> 00:38:32,216
Speaker 3: like I know where I stand in this deal. And uh,

1001
00:38:32,336 --> 00:38:34,136
Speaker 3: Tom's like no, no, He's like I'm serious. He goes like

1002
00:38:34,136 --> 00:38:35,496
Speaker 3: you guys, take all the time you need. He's like,

1003
00:38:35,656 --> 00:38:37,416
Speaker 3: we need you to feel good because if you feel good, man,

1004
00:38:37,456 --> 00:38:39,136
Speaker 3: it's gonna help us. That's gonna help us win today.

1005
00:38:39,456 --> 00:38:41,656
Speaker 3: And I look at Alex, and Alex like you heard him, like,

1006
00:38:41,896 --> 00:38:44,136
Speaker 3: you know, sit back down. So I'm laying on that table.

1007
00:38:44,136 --> 00:38:46,336
Speaker 3: Tom's just sitting there. He probably waited for like another

1008
00:38:46,416 --> 00:38:48,256
Speaker 3: I don't know, ten twelve minutes while Ox is like

1009
00:38:48,296 --> 00:38:51,936
Speaker 3: finishing up. I feel super uncomfortable, but then like sure enough,

1010
00:38:51,976 --> 00:38:53,856
Speaker 3: he's like so gracious about it. We go out. I

1011
00:38:53,896 --> 00:38:55,616
Speaker 3: think we ended up hitting a field goal like pretty

1012
00:38:55,656 --> 00:38:57,016
Speaker 3: late in the game, not to win it but kind

1013
00:38:57,056 --> 00:38:59,656
Speaker 3: of put put the game away. And uh, that's just

1014
00:38:59,736 --> 00:39:02,056
Speaker 3: kind of who Tom was, like he was or who

1015
00:39:02,056 --> 00:39:04,776
Speaker 3: he is, Like he was so great to his teammates. Uh,

1016
00:39:05,056 --> 00:39:07,376
Speaker 3: like really like genuine humility to let other people. I

1017
00:39:07,376 --> 00:39:08,936
Speaker 3: don't know. That story just always stood out to me,

1018
00:39:08,976 --> 00:39:12,096
Speaker 3: Like what a real leader he is to let somebody

1019
00:39:12,136 --> 00:39:14,056
Speaker 3: as low of a position as I was to sit

1020
00:39:14,096 --> 00:39:15,536
Speaker 3: there and him wait on me. I don't know. That

1021
00:39:15,576 --> 00:39:16,336
Speaker 3: just always like stood out.

1022
00:39:16,336 --> 00:39:19,216
Speaker 4: He always kicked me off the table immediately, and then

1023
00:39:19,376 --> 00:39:20,256
Speaker 4: he didn't even need the table.

1024
00:39:20,256 --> 00:39:23,456
Speaker 3: He was like you, I don't know your name. Yeah,

1025
00:39:23,456 --> 00:39:25,776
Speaker 3: well you guys also played the same position cash. It's true.

1026
00:39:25,776 --> 00:39:27,856
Speaker 4: But like even when coach are trying to put me

1027
00:39:27,856 --> 00:39:29,335
Speaker 4: in for a few reps at the end of a period,

1028
00:39:29,376 --> 00:39:30,856
Speaker 4: he'd be like, hey, I need this one coach. I

1029
00:39:30,896 --> 00:39:33,336
Speaker 4: was like, really, you just had the whole practice like

1030
00:39:33,376 --> 00:39:34,456
Speaker 4: they're literally handled.

1031
00:39:34,536 --> 00:39:36,176
Speaker 3: That was also kind of his mentality, right, Oh.

1032
00:39:36,096 --> 00:39:38,536
Speaker 4: He didn't want anybody else to touch that position, and

1033
00:39:38,576 --> 00:39:40,456
Speaker 4: I understand it. He always said, you never want to

1034
00:39:40,456 --> 00:39:43,896
Speaker 4: see somebody else playing your position, which held true.

1035
00:39:43,896 --> 00:39:44,976
Speaker 2: That's how he got his job.

1036
00:39:45,096 --> 00:39:46,496
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, when you.

1037
00:39:46,496 --> 00:39:49,616
Speaker 2: Hurt yourself, yeah, your knee issue. Jeff surgery, I did.

1038
00:39:49,616 --> 00:39:50,136
Speaker 3: I had surgery.

1039
00:39:50,216 --> 00:39:50,656
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1040
00:39:50,736 --> 00:39:53,656
Speaker 2: I got to think that's as much physically as it

1041
00:39:53,696 --> 00:39:55,456
Speaker 2: is hard to come back that mentally you got to

1042
00:39:55,496 --> 00:39:56,256
Speaker 2: trust it again.

1043
00:39:56,696 --> 00:39:59,536
Speaker 3: How difficult was that it was? It was hard because

1044
00:39:59,576 --> 00:40:02,056
Speaker 3: I was the timing of it. Like I had the

1045
00:40:02,056 --> 00:40:05,136
Speaker 3: surgery probably five or six weeks before training camp started,

1046
00:40:05,416 --> 00:40:06,776
Speaker 3: and I was hoping to get back in time, and

1047
00:40:06,856 --> 00:40:09,296
Speaker 3: it just just some things happened where it just didn't

1048
00:40:09,296 --> 00:40:11,056
Speaker 3: go the way I wanted it to, and so then

1049
00:40:11,096 --> 00:40:13,536
Speaker 3: you're like trying harder, and then you're like stressing harder,

1050
00:40:13,576 --> 00:40:15,176
Speaker 3: and then that's like the worst thing to try to

1051
00:40:15,216 --> 00:40:17,056
Speaker 3: heal and to recover is when you're like stressed on

1052
00:40:17,096 --> 00:40:18,336
Speaker 3: top of it. So it was just kind of a

1053
00:40:18,376 --> 00:40:20,256
Speaker 3: culmination of all that because you want to get back

1054
00:40:20,296 --> 00:40:22,816
Speaker 3: so badly, but at the same time you're physically just

1055
00:40:22,816 --> 00:40:24,656
Speaker 3: not there. And that's that. That was a hard year.

1056
00:40:24,656 --> 00:40:25,496
Speaker 3: I learned a lot that year.

1057
00:40:25,536 --> 00:40:27,536
Speaker 2: Did it take a minute to get the confidence back?

1058
00:40:28,016 --> 00:40:29,896
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I tried to come back and play probably

1059
00:40:29,896 --> 00:40:33,376
Speaker 3: halfway through that season, and actually my first game, I

1060
00:40:33,416 --> 00:40:34,856
Speaker 3: had the worst game of my career. I missed three

1061
00:40:34,896 --> 00:40:37,136
Speaker 3: I miss three field goals that game and then I

1062
00:40:37,176 --> 00:40:39,976
Speaker 3: played probably four or five more games that season. It

1063
00:40:40,096 --> 00:40:41,816
Speaker 3: just I just wasn't where I needed to be. It

1064
00:40:41,856 --> 00:40:44,096
Speaker 3: did not go well, and that was that was how

1065
00:40:44,096 --> 00:40:46,496
Speaker 3: I ended up in Tampa. And that was probably where

1066
00:40:46,536 --> 00:40:49,096
Speaker 3: I had some doubt going into that final season. Was like, man,

1067
00:40:49,136 --> 00:40:50,696
Speaker 3: am I can I still do this? Like I'm you know,

1068
00:40:50,776 --> 00:40:52,536
Speaker 3: I was probably thirty four thirty five at the time.

1069
00:40:52,536 --> 00:40:54,576
Speaker 3: I was kind of on the older side. You start

1070
00:40:54,616 --> 00:40:56,776
Speaker 3: kind of having those like real doubts, and so I

1071
00:40:56,816 --> 00:40:58,656
Speaker 3: think it was a blessing for me to get an

1072
00:40:58,816 --> 00:41:00,496
Speaker 3: entire offseason, you know what I mean, Like that happened

1073
00:41:00,536 --> 00:41:02,136
Speaker 3: in the middle of the season. I got five or

1074
00:41:02,136 --> 00:41:04,216
Speaker 3: six months before I had to do it again, and

1075
00:41:04,256 --> 00:41:06,856
Speaker 3: when you know, when the bullets were really fine. So uh,

1076
00:41:06,896 --> 00:41:07,776
Speaker 3: that was it was hard.

1077
00:41:08,056 --> 00:41:10,376
Speaker 4: But talk about the psyche too, because look, there's only

1078
00:41:10,416 --> 00:41:13,216
Speaker 4: one place kicker, one one field goal kicker on the

1079
00:41:13,256 --> 00:41:16,976
Speaker 4: team every year, and they're constantly bringing people in, especially

1080
00:41:17,016 --> 00:41:19,216
Speaker 4: as you get older, your salary increases and all of

1081
00:41:19,216 --> 00:41:21,576
Speaker 4: a sudden they want to go younger. Talk about like

1082
00:41:21,896 --> 00:41:24,336
Speaker 4: just the competitive nature of that position because there's only

1083
00:41:24,376 --> 00:41:25,976
Speaker 4: thirty two of you in the entire league. It's not

1084
00:41:25,976 --> 00:41:27,936
Speaker 4: like you have a backup and a third string guy

1085
00:41:27,976 --> 00:41:29,616
Speaker 4: that you can make a roster do something like that.

1086
00:41:29,696 --> 00:41:31,816
Speaker 5: It's really one guy per team.

1087
00:41:31,896 --> 00:41:34,296
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're exactly right. There's there's one guy that's

1088
00:41:34,336 --> 00:41:36,896
Speaker 3: going to do it, and it's I guess That's what's

1089
00:41:36,936 --> 00:41:39,536
Speaker 3: so like awesome about the position is that like if

1090
00:41:39,576 --> 00:41:41,216
Speaker 3: you can be that guy, like if you can show

1091
00:41:41,216 --> 00:41:43,416
Speaker 3: a team that hey, you can handle the stressful the

1092
00:41:43,456 --> 00:41:45,496
Speaker 3: stressful kicks or you know you can, they can count

1093
00:41:45,496 --> 00:41:47,336
Speaker 3: on you, you can stick around for a long time.

1094
00:41:47,416 --> 00:41:49,776
Speaker 3: At the same time, it's like that's where the pressure

1095
00:41:49,816 --> 00:41:51,696
Speaker 3: comes from because it does not take much. Man one

1096
00:41:51,736 --> 00:41:53,816
Speaker 3: or two games and it's like, dude, they're they're moving on,

1097
00:41:53,936 --> 00:41:55,736
Speaker 3: So you have to you have to be dialed in

1098
00:41:55,976 --> 00:41:58,815
Speaker 3: like every week for seventeen weeks and then playoffs because

1099
00:41:58,816 --> 00:42:00,896
Speaker 3: it just doesn't take much for them to lose faith.

1100
00:42:01,616 --> 00:42:03,376
Speaker 2: Let's say you kick off because you were a kick

1101
00:42:03,376 --> 00:42:04,456
Speaker 2: off specialists.

1102
00:42:03,976 --> 00:42:06,816
Speaker 3: Too, you say, yeah, I did from my first like

1103
00:42:06,936 --> 00:42:08,696
Speaker 3: probably my first eleven or twelve years, I was. I

1104
00:42:08,736 --> 00:42:09,216
Speaker 3: was doing it all.

1105
00:42:09,296 --> 00:42:15,216
Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy breaks, it's you and it's him. What

1106
00:42:15,256 --> 00:42:16,536
Speaker 2: the heck is going on in your mind?

1107
00:42:16,736 --> 00:42:18,376
Speaker 3: Okay, so you know what, I know what I learned,

1108
00:42:18,416 --> 00:42:20,416
Speaker 3: and again I was not good at this like early on,

1109
00:42:20,816 --> 00:42:22,816
Speaker 3: but I figured out if you just get down there

1110
00:42:22,816 --> 00:42:24,736
Speaker 3: and get in the way. So like the if I

1111
00:42:24,776 --> 00:42:26,456
Speaker 3: would kick off and if I knew they were running

1112
00:42:26,456 --> 00:42:28,296
Speaker 3: it out, I would try to high tail it down there,

1113
00:42:28,296 --> 00:42:30,296
Speaker 3: because if I could be the top of the triangle

1114
00:42:30,376 --> 00:42:32,576
Speaker 3: and just be a body, most of the time those

1115
00:42:32,616 --> 00:42:34,296
Speaker 3: guys would cut one way or another and somebody else

1116
00:42:34,336 --> 00:42:37,656
Speaker 3: would make tackle. But if I hung back, if you're last,

1117
00:42:38,216 --> 00:42:40,616
Speaker 3: they had space, Like I was going to embarrass myself

1118
00:42:40,656 --> 00:42:43,896
Speaker 3: because those guys, those guys move a lot better than

1119
00:42:43,936 --> 00:42:45,856
Speaker 3: I move, and I didn't want that. So I would

1120
00:42:45,896 --> 00:42:47,256
Speaker 3: just get in the way and I would just pray

1121
00:42:47,256 --> 00:42:48,936
Speaker 3: that they would go left or go right. And every

1122
00:42:48,976 --> 00:42:50,376
Speaker 3: now and again you would have to just sit there

1123
00:42:50,416 --> 00:42:51,656
Speaker 3: and just kind of take it, like you know what,

1124
00:42:51,776 --> 00:42:54,016
Speaker 3: like on field goal we say, we say to the lineman,

1125
00:42:54,096 --> 00:42:56,336
Speaker 3: like die the slow death, Like the offensive linemen are

1126
00:42:56,336 --> 00:42:59,656
Speaker 3: going to get killed on field goal. And I would

1127
00:42:59,696 --> 00:43:00,815
Speaker 3: just kind of have that in back of my mind,

1128
00:43:00,856 --> 00:43:02,896
Speaker 3: like dude, just just take it. If you just got

1129
00:43:02,936 --> 00:43:04,296
Speaker 3: to take one, just take one. And most of the

1130
00:43:04,336 --> 00:43:05,696
Speaker 3: time they'd go one the other way. So that was

1131
00:43:05,776 --> 00:43:06,496
Speaker 3: kind of my strategy.

1132
00:43:06,536 --> 00:43:08,936
Speaker 4: What's the hardest hit you've taken in that type of

1133
00:43:08,976 --> 00:43:12,696
Speaker 4: situation or did you always just basically never hang back

1134
00:43:12,976 --> 00:43:14,856
Speaker 4: and always just acted like you're in the way so

1135
00:43:14,896 --> 00:43:16,576
Speaker 4: that they could run for a touchdown if they had to.

1136
00:43:17,376 --> 00:43:19,216
Speaker 3: Uh. The the hardest hit I ever took was actually

1137
00:43:19,216 --> 00:43:22,016
Speaker 3: in college. It was against LSU. I was punting and

1138
00:43:22,056 --> 00:43:24,896
Speaker 3: I outkicked the coverage little bit. Trendon Holiday was the returner.

1139
00:43:25,696 --> 00:43:27,336
Speaker 3: He he returned for a touchdown, but there was a

1140
00:43:27,456 --> 00:43:29,096
Speaker 3: there was a it got called back for a hold

1141
00:43:29,416 --> 00:43:31,856
Speaker 3: and Uh, I was actually like high tailor to the sideline,

1142
00:43:32,136 --> 00:43:35,336
Speaker 3: did not see a guy, got totally blindsided, totally decleted.

1143
00:43:35,376 --> 00:43:37,096
Speaker 3: It was one of those moments where like everything just

1144
00:43:37,136 --> 00:43:39,176
Speaker 3: went black for a second. And it was right in

1145
00:43:39,176 --> 00:43:41,416
Speaker 3: front of the LSU bench and it was I think

1146
00:43:41,416 --> 00:43:43,736
Speaker 3: it was Ali Highsmith. He was there, all American linebacker

1147
00:43:43,776 --> 00:43:45,776
Speaker 3: that got me. And I remember when I opened my eyes,

1148
00:43:45,776 --> 00:43:48,335
Speaker 3: he was standing over me like this and I saw

1149
00:43:48,416 --> 00:43:51,576
Speaker 3: the uh, all the LSU bench just go oh. And

1150
00:43:51,616 --> 00:43:55,536
Speaker 3: I remember he was exactly seriously I like, and I

1151
00:43:55,576 --> 00:43:57,536
Speaker 3: was like, dude, yeah, laid me out like I'm the

1152
00:43:57,576 --> 00:43:58,256
Speaker 3: I'm the kicker man.

1153
00:43:58,336 --> 00:44:01,336
Speaker 2: Like that's like harsh Manning is Sam Houston. He guys

1154
00:44:01,336 --> 00:44:03,616
Speaker 2: over the top of him. Are you punted and kicked

1155
00:44:03,776 --> 00:44:04,216
Speaker 2: in college?

1156
00:44:04,216 --> 00:44:04,496
Speaker 3: I did?

1157
00:44:04,576 --> 00:44:06,776
Speaker 2: Yeah, Could you have been an NFL punter?

1158
00:44:08,056 --> 00:44:11,376
Speaker 3: Maybe? I think I was more comfortable kicking. I actually

1159
00:44:11,376 --> 00:44:12,856
Speaker 3: did have a couple of teams that wanted me to

1160
00:44:12,896 --> 00:44:15,096
Speaker 3: punt instead of kick. But I'm thankful I didn't go

1161
00:44:15,096 --> 00:44:17,376
Speaker 3: down that road. Punting is hard, man. It's hard to

1162
00:44:17,416 --> 00:44:19,336
Speaker 3: stand back there, and you got to have really good

1163
00:44:19,336 --> 00:44:21,576
Speaker 3: hands to mold the ball, don't I don't think I

1164
00:44:21,616 --> 00:44:22,656
Speaker 3: would have been as good as a punter.

1165
00:44:22,816 --> 00:44:25,296
Speaker 2: So, all right, three final questions. I go first, So

1166
00:44:25,336 --> 00:44:27,736
Speaker 2: I know Cam Little a little bit. He's the Markansas. Yeah,

1167
00:44:27,736 --> 00:44:29,936
Speaker 2: so I spent some time with them. He made that

1168
00:44:30,016 --> 00:44:33,536
Speaker 2: seventy yarder. Yeah, preseason, which is pretty unbelievable. Yeah, dude,

1169
00:44:33,576 --> 00:44:36,736
Speaker 2: people just kick farther now? Or are the balls like?

1170
00:44:36,776 --> 00:44:37,416
Speaker 2: What's happening?

1171
00:44:37,496 --> 00:44:40,056
Speaker 3: Man? Okay, So great questions. It's both, all right. The

1172
00:44:40,456 --> 00:44:42,456
Speaker 3: kids that are coming out now, like obviously Cam is

1173
00:44:42,496 --> 00:44:45,376
Speaker 3: super talented. It's a combination. The guy's coming up there

1174
00:44:45,376 --> 00:44:47,096
Speaker 3: better do Their training is better, they've been doing it

1175
00:44:47,136 --> 00:44:49,896
Speaker 3: at a younger age. They're better athletes all that. At

1176
00:44:49,896 --> 00:44:52,256
Speaker 3: the same time. The NFL just switched the rule this year.

1177
00:44:52,376 --> 00:44:54,816
Speaker 3: So when I played, when I played, you know, like

1178
00:44:54,856 --> 00:44:57,456
Speaker 3: we had it so hard, Matt. But in all seriousness,

1179
00:44:57,496 --> 00:45:00,136
Speaker 3: when I played, we would get the quarterback balls, and

1180
00:45:00,176 --> 00:45:02,216
Speaker 3: you have the K balls. So the quarterbacks get their balls,

1181
00:45:02,216 --> 00:45:04,216
Speaker 3: they get fifteen balls on Monday and they have all

1182
00:45:04,216 --> 00:45:06,576
Speaker 3: week to break them in K balls. We would get

1183
00:45:06,696 --> 00:45:08,896
Speaker 3: six K balls for the game, brand new out of

1184
00:45:08,896 --> 00:45:11,696
Speaker 3: the box, sixty minutes before kickoff on Sunday, and your

1185
00:45:11,736 --> 00:45:14,296
Speaker 3: equipment guy would have sixty minutes to break in six

1186
00:45:14,376 --> 00:45:17,976
Speaker 3: footballs by doing what like dirt ruh, yeah, rub dirt

1187
00:45:18,056 --> 00:45:20,256
Speaker 3: the brush. You would try to break the seams in

1188
00:45:20,296 --> 00:45:22,256
Speaker 3: as best you could, so find like a you know,

1189
00:45:22,296 --> 00:45:24,296
Speaker 3: the corner of a table and try to bust the

1190
00:45:24,296 --> 00:45:25,936
Speaker 3: seams as much as you can. You're trying to break

1191
00:45:25,936 --> 00:45:27,616
Speaker 3: that ball in as much as possible so that when

1192
00:45:27,616 --> 00:45:29,416
Speaker 3: they hit your foot you can get more compression, because

1193
00:45:29,416 --> 00:45:31,696
Speaker 3: that's what's going to make it go farther. And so

1194
00:45:32,256 --> 00:45:34,016
Speaker 3: when you only have ten or fifteen minutes per ball,

1195
00:45:34,056 --> 00:45:35,856
Speaker 3: there's only so much you can do. So we were

1196
00:45:35,856 --> 00:45:39,376
Speaker 3: really kicking like pretty hard footballs. Well now they changed

1197
00:45:39,416 --> 00:45:41,736
Speaker 3: it and they get all the kicking balls. They get

1198
00:45:41,776 --> 00:45:43,496
Speaker 3: all sixty of them at the beginning of the season,

1199
00:45:43,576 --> 00:45:45,456
Speaker 3: so they have the entire season to break them in.

1200
00:45:45,816 --> 00:45:48,456
Speaker 3: So like, not only are the guys better, they are better,

1201
00:45:48,616 --> 00:45:51,456
Speaker 3: no question, but you are going to continue to see

1202
00:45:51,896 --> 00:45:54,336
Speaker 3: monster field goals because you give me a ball that

1203
00:45:54,656 --> 00:45:57,896
Speaker 3: you have broken break in or all week to break in.

1204
00:45:57,976 --> 00:45:59,056
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a big difference.

1205
00:45:59,336 --> 00:45:59,656
Speaker 2: Wow.

1206
00:45:59,776 --> 00:46:01,576
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't even realized that. I didn't even think

1207
00:46:01,576 --> 00:46:03,456
Speaker 4: about it. I mean, I figured it would be.

1208
00:46:03,696 --> 00:46:07,016
Speaker 2: I think about kickers. Quarterback, you know, I was always I.

1209
00:46:07,016 --> 00:46:09,536
Speaker 4: Was always the backup holder, just God forbid, Like I

1210
00:46:09,576 --> 00:46:11,336
Speaker 4: had to go in there and fumble that the.

1211
00:46:11,216 --> 00:46:12,936
Speaker 3: Same way you. Me and Ben we had a good

1212
00:46:12,936 --> 00:46:15,656
Speaker 3: little thing. Then we've been on Thursday Thursday practice.

1213
00:46:15,696 --> 00:46:17,136
Speaker 5: They put me in there and Benny would be in

1214
00:46:17,176 --> 00:46:20,336
Speaker 5: the yeah, and it usually.

1215
00:46:20,056 --> 00:46:21,696
Speaker 4: He would always yell at me too, He's like, cast

1216
00:46:21,776 --> 00:46:23,136
Speaker 4: a little bit more to you, a little bit more.

1217
00:46:23,176 --> 00:46:24,816
Speaker 4: I was like, beat it, bro, I'm just trying to

1218
00:46:24,856 --> 00:46:26,456
Speaker 4: put it in the dirt where he just told me

1219
00:46:26,536 --> 00:46:28,536
Speaker 4: right here. Now, I'm usually off my spot. But we'd

1220
00:46:28,576 --> 00:46:29,896
Speaker 4: make we make some good kicks.

1221
00:46:30,056 --> 00:46:31,936
Speaker 3: We did. We teamed it up, man, We did our best.

1222
00:46:31,976 --> 00:46:33,056
Speaker 3: What was your go to cleat.

1223
00:46:33,216 --> 00:46:36,096
Speaker 4: You know, I know that there's always two different cleats

1224
00:46:36,096 --> 00:46:37,736
Speaker 4: that you guys wore. I always told him he should

1225
00:46:37,736 --> 00:46:39,776
Speaker 4: wear like a cowboy boot with a spur on the

1226
00:46:39,816 --> 00:46:43,096
Speaker 4: plant foot, like just to add a little flare to

1227
00:46:43,136 --> 00:46:43,656
Speaker 4: the whole thing.

1228
00:46:43,696 --> 00:46:45,856
Speaker 3: But we did always say cash if we knew it

1229
00:46:45,896 --> 00:46:47,536
Speaker 3: was my last year and we were still playing together

1230
00:46:47,536 --> 00:46:49,456
Speaker 3: in Kansas City, because this would be well received in

1231
00:46:49,536 --> 00:46:51,336
Speaker 3: Kansas City. We were gonna wear lu Casey on the

1232
00:46:51,416 --> 00:46:54,296
Speaker 3: left foot and maybe that would be my first sponsorship

1233
00:46:54,336 --> 00:46:56,096
Speaker 3: deal and clean it up, yeah.

1234
00:46:55,976 --> 00:46:58,376
Speaker 5: And have you smoke on the sideline and like.

1235
00:46:59,096 --> 00:47:00,216
Speaker 2: I feel a fine coming though.

1236
00:47:01,136 --> 00:47:02,896
Speaker 3: Absolutely Matt said he would cover it for me.

1237
00:47:02,936 --> 00:47:04,736
Speaker 2: I'd cover We just put the Nike swoosh on it.

1238
00:47:05,416 --> 00:47:11,656
Speaker 2: Last question, what kickers, golfers, tennis players, like anybody that's

1239
00:47:11,656 --> 00:47:13,856
Speaker 2: on an island. Because you play, it's a solo sport.

1240
00:47:14,496 --> 00:47:15,736
Speaker 2: Like you said, it's not a so football is not

1241
00:47:15,736 --> 00:47:17,176
Speaker 2: a solo sport, but a kicker is a solo sport

1242
00:47:17,216 --> 00:47:20,176
Speaker 2: inside of a team game. Yep, superstitions, you had to

1243
00:47:20,216 --> 00:47:21,136
Speaker 2: have them.

1244
00:47:21,056 --> 00:47:23,576
Speaker 3: You know what. Honestly, I know a lot of guys

1245
00:47:23,576 --> 00:47:25,496
Speaker 3: were superstitious. I mean, I knew guys that would like

1246
00:47:25,536 --> 00:47:27,416
Speaker 3: they had to wear the same boxers every game, or

1247
00:47:27,456 --> 00:47:30,616
Speaker 3: they had to eat at the same place. Like, I

1248
00:47:30,656 --> 00:47:33,696
Speaker 3: don't know, man, I that never. I was never that way.

1249
00:47:34,376 --> 00:47:35,976
Speaker 3: I would always, you know, i'd say a little prayer

1250
00:47:36,016 --> 00:47:38,256
Speaker 3: before the game. That's you know, that was kind of

1251
00:47:38,256 --> 00:47:40,296
Speaker 3: my thing, and I just leave it up to the

1252
00:47:40,296 --> 00:47:42,376
Speaker 3: Lord and try to go out and be free. But

1253
00:47:42,416 --> 00:47:44,856
Speaker 3: I really didn't have like a had to do this

1254
00:47:44,976 --> 00:47:47,016
Speaker 3: or do that. I really wasn't that way.

1255
00:47:47,016 --> 00:47:50,976
Speaker 2: Final final question, Final final question. Ever have a ball

1256
00:47:51,016 --> 00:47:53,096
Speaker 2: that's going in and for some reason it just hooks

1257
00:47:53,136 --> 00:47:55,336
Speaker 2: like crazy at the end and you're like, what the crap?

1258
00:47:55,456 --> 00:47:58,936
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, one hundred percent. I remember one really like

1259
00:47:59,016 --> 00:48:01,496
Speaker 3: I remember one really well that like I hit it.

1260
00:48:01,656 --> 00:48:03,256
Speaker 3: I looked up, it was going right down the middle,

1261
00:48:03,296 --> 00:48:05,016
Speaker 3: and I was, you know, gave it a little one

1262
00:48:05,016 --> 00:48:07,336
Speaker 3: of these look down to get my holder a high five,

1263
00:48:07,536 --> 00:48:09,616
Speaker 3: and he looked on his face and I'm like, did that.

1264
00:48:09,576 --> 00:48:09,936
Speaker 2: Not go in?

1265
00:48:10,216 --> 00:48:12,056
Speaker 3: He looked at you, and I look up and it

1266
00:48:12,096 --> 00:48:14,056
Speaker 3: hit the right upright, and I was like, oh, that

1267
00:48:14,216 --> 00:48:17,216
Speaker 3: was a gut punch. So yeah, that most of the time,

1268
00:48:17,216 --> 00:48:19,416
Speaker 3: you know, like ninety nine percent of the time when

1269
00:48:19,416 --> 00:48:21,336
Speaker 3: you hit a ball, like you know whether you made

1270
00:48:21,336 --> 00:48:23,696
Speaker 3: it or not. And that was one where I thought

1271
00:48:23,696 --> 00:48:25,616
Speaker 3: for sure I made it and it was going straight

1272
00:48:25,656 --> 00:48:27,536
Speaker 3: and it like took a right turn really hard. I

1273
00:48:27,536 --> 00:48:28,856
Speaker 3: don't know. I still don't know what happened.

1274
00:48:28,976 --> 00:48:31,336
Speaker 4: Okay, last question, Yeah, last last night, last last last

1275
00:48:31,376 --> 00:48:34,656
Speaker 4: night's last question. Okay, when a field goal is blocked,

1276
00:48:34,896 --> 00:48:37,736
Speaker 4: how much of it is due to the trajectory of

1277
00:48:37,816 --> 00:48:42,696
Speaker 4: the actual ball being kicked low versus protection breakdown?

1278
00:48:43,336 --> 00:48:46,656
Speaker 3: They're all it all depends. Now, I'll say this, Like

1279
00:48:46,696 --> 00:48:48,896
Speaker 3: my mentality was always like hey, it's on me, Like

1280
00:48:48,936 --> 00:48:50,656
Speaker 3: I just think that's the way to be, Like, hey, I.

1281
00:48:50,656 --> 00:48:52,416
Speaker 2: Would never say that. I'd be like, dude, that's on

1282
00:48:52,536 --> 00:48:53,016
Speaker 2: you guys.

1283
00:48:53,616 --> 00:48:56,576
Speaker 3: Here's the thing. This was always my thing, Like field

1284
00:48:56,616 --> 00:48:59,456
Speaker 3: goal protection. You talk to any line then or tight

1285
00:48:59,576 --> 00:49:01,216
Speaker 3: ends on field goal protection, they will tell you that

1286
00:49:01,256 --> 00:49:03,216
Speaker 3: is the worst plane, Like that is the hardest playing

1287
00:49:03,216 --> 00:49:07,176
Speaker 3: football because they just get teed off on those guys.

1288
00:49:07,256 --> 00:49:09,536
Speaker 3: Like after every season, you better believe I'm going to

1289
00:49:09,656 --> 00:49:11,976
Speaker 3: the best steakhouse. I'm getting gift cards for all of them.

1290
00:49:11,976 --> 00:49:13,576
Speaker 3: Like I wanted to know, like, hey, y'all have a

1291
00:49:13,576 --> 00:49:16,376
Speaker 3: hard job. I really appreciate this, and the last thing

1292
00:49:16,376 --> 00:49:17,856
Speaker 3: you ever want to do is sit there and try

1293
00:49:17,856 --> 00:49:19,576
Speaker 3: to blame it on one of those costs because they're

1294
00:49:19,576 --> 00:49:21,656
Speaker 3: gonna block for your next game. So like my thing

1295
00:49:21,696 --> 00:49:23,456
Speaker 3: was always like, hey, it's on me, because then they

1296
00:49:23,496 --> 00:49:25,456
Speaker 3: would you know, they're they're gonna have that mentality like

1297
00:49:25,496 --> 00:49:27,496
Speaker 3: hey this he's you know, he's not gonna blame it

1298
00:49:27,496 --> 00:49:28,896
Speaker 3: on us. We're gonna go out and fight harder for him.

1299
00:49:28,976 --> 00:49:32,216
Speaker 3: That was my approach. But there's no doubt, like I've

1300
00:49:32,216 --> 00:49:35,096
Speaker 3: had I've had balls that got blocked that like one

1301
00:49:35,736 --> 00:49:37,616
Speaker 3: were on me. I didn't hit a good ball, they

1302
00:49:37,616 --> 00:49:39,856
Speaker 3: were low whatever, and then I had somewhere I'm like, man,

1303
00:49:39,896 --> 00:49:41,776
Speaker 3: I hit that ball good that would have been you know.

1304
00:49:42,176 --> 00:49:44,216
Speaker 3: And so it's just part of playing football. It's just

1305
00:49:44,256 --> 00:49:46,416
Speaker 3: like other guys in their team that they're getting paid

1306
00:49:46,416 --> 00:49:49,216
Speaker 3: to they make great plays and sometimes they just you know,

1307
00:49:49,856 --> 00:49:51,936
Speaker 3: they just it goes both ways. Man.

1308
00:49:52,296 --> 00:49:54,376
Speaker 2: So no more questions. But this is in parentheses. This

1309
00:49:54,456 --> 00:49:56,016
Speaker 2: is my question in parentheses, and we're down with all

1310
00:49:56,016 --> 00:50:01,056
Speaker 2: the questions in parentheses. If you got called today and

1311
00:50:01,056 --> 00:50:04,416
Speaker 2: they're like we the Titans, They're like, we know you're

1312
00:50:04,416 --> 00:50:07,256
Speaker 2: close games in an hour, Like where would you kind

1313
00:50:07,296 --> 00:50:07,896
Speaker 2: of cap out.

1314
00:50:07,776 --> 00:50:12,816
Speaker 3: At as far as like branch train. Well, you know what,

1315
00:50:12,896 --> 00:50:14,936
Speaker 3: I'm actually filming something here in about two weeks, so

1316
00:50:15,056 --> 00:50:17,336
Speaker 3: I'll I will report back to you and let you know.

1317
00:50:17,416 --> 00:50:20,136
Speaker 3: But I don't know. That's a good question. I hadn't

1318
00:50:20,176 --> 00:50:22,216
Speaker 3: kicked the ball in a long time, so I've been

1319
00:50:22,216 --> 00:50:24,136
Speaker 3: focusing on the golf. Uh it would it would take

1320
00:50:24,136 --> 00:50:25,056
Speaker 3: a little time to warm.

1321
00:50:24,856 --> 00:50:29,336
Speaker 5: That range, all right, don't Oh.

1322
00:50:29,336 --> 00:50:30,656
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can still do that. I think

1323
00:50:30,656 --> 00:50:32,896
Speaker 3: actually that I still try to, like, you know, I mean,

1324
00:50:32,936 --> 00:50:34,936
Speaker 3: I'm not castle over here on the tunnel five days

1325
00:50:34,976 --> 00:50:37,616
Speaker 3: a week, but get it in. I try to try

1326
00:50:37,656 --> 00:50:39,216
Speaker 3: to trust stay moving a little bit. I think I

1327
00:50:39,256 --> 00:50:40,856
Speaker 3: could still your wrecked there.

1328
00:50:40,856 --> 00:50:43,376
Speaker 2: You're like a rip dude. Yeah, but he's a freak

1329
00:50:43,376 --> 00:50:45,496
Speaker 2: of nature. Yeah, it's like him and I like, look

1330
00:50:45,536 --> 00:50:47,056
Speaker 2: like we're in shape. How you doing, buddy, Well, I'm

1331
00:50:47,096 --> 00:50:47,616
Speaker 2: been working at that.

1332
00:50:47,816 --> 00:50:49,576
Speaker 5: I'm on the tune five days a week.

1333
00:50:50,136 --> 00:50:52,296
Speaker 3: It's just a couple of retired professional athletes like.

1334
00:50:52,336 --> 00:50:55,856
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm living my life to the fullest. Hey, we've

1335
00:50:55,856 --> 00:50:57,936
Speaker 2: both got championships. I got a mirror of ball, he's

1336
00:50:57,936 --> 00:50:58,856
Speaker 2: got a Super Bowl ring.

1337
00:50:59,736 --> 00:51:02,616
Speaker 4: I've got three national championships. But that's way back. That's

1338
00:51:02,656 --> 00:51:03,736
Speaker 4: not even professional, is it.

1339
00:51:04,576 --> 00:51:05,776
Speaker 3: I must I must tell you this. I don't know

1340
00:51:05,776 --> 00:51:07,736
Speaker 3: if you know this about Cast, but how long have

1341
00:51:07,776 --> 00:51:08,736
Speaker 3: people be doing the show? A year?

1342
00:51:08,776 --> 00:51:08,936
Speaker 2: Two?

1343
00:51:09,856 --> 00:51:12,376
Speaker 3: Yeah, whenever. This was like a year and a half

1344
00:51:12,416 --> 00:51:14,856
Speaker 3: ago too. We're at our our boys play baseball together

1345
00:51:15,376 --> 00:51:16,896
Speaker 3: and I'm talking to Cast one day. Why could you up?

1346
00:51:16,896 --> 00:51:18,696
Speaker 3: To man? He's like, I'm doing this and this. He's like, man,

1347
00:51:18,736 --> 00:51:22,016
Speaker 3: they want me to do this podcast. Some guy he's

1348
00:51:22,016 --> 00:51:24,176
Speaker 3: like pretty big on country music and radio and now

1349
00:51:24,176 --> 00:51:26,616
Speaker 3: he's got all this stuff and I'm like, who is it?

1350
00:51:26,696 --> 00:51:30,456
Speaker 3: And he's like, Bobby Bobby Bones. I'm like, Castle, like

1351
00:51:30,896 --> 00:51:34,176
Speaker 3: you need to do that, Like you need to go

1352
00:51:34,216 --> 00:51:34,376
Speaker 3: do it.

1353
00:51:34,416 --> 00:51:37,296
Speaker 4: I definitely didn't say like I said, Bobby Bones.

1354
00:51:37,336 --> 00:51:40,576
Speaker 2: You know Bobby Bones, Billy Jones, Right, I'm.

1355
00:51:40,376 --> 00:51:44,256
Speaker 3: Like, I love him, but sometimes you know these we

1356
00:51:44,256 --> 00:51:44,936
Speaker 3: got to help him out.

1357
00:51:44,976 --> 00:51:45,456
Speaker 2: I've learned now.

1358
00:51:45,536 --> 00:51:45,736
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1359
00:51:45,816 --> 00:51:48,816
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's why I'm here. So we really appreciate

1360
00:51:48,856 --> 00:51:50,376
Speaker 2: the time. And this is been awesome. I'll let you

1361
00:51:50,416 --> 00:51:52,536
Speaker 2: in this though. This is your guy. Oh he is

1362
00:51:52,576 --> 00:51:52,896
Speaker 2: my guy.

1363
00:51:52,976 --> 00:51:54,896
Speaker 4: He's one of my favorite people I've ever played with

1364
00:51:55,336 --> 00:51:58,376
Speaker 4: and I'll tell you he's so humble and he's got

1365
00:51:58,416 --> 00:52:01,616
Speaker 4: such a great humility about him that he'll never talk

1366
00:52:02,176 --> 00:52:04,576
Speaker 4: too big about himself. But he was an incredible player,

1367
00:52:04,936 --> 00:52:08,056
Speaker 4: incredible teammate. But also when you see him interact with

1368
00:52:08,096 --> 00:52:10,376
Speaker 4: his wife, his kids and anybody around, the respect that

1369
00:52:10,416 --> 00:52:13,576
Speaker 4: everybody has in the community for him, it's just, uh,

1370
00:52:13,656 --> 00:52:14,856
Speaker 4: it's always something.

1371
00:52:14,576 --> 00:52:16,776
Speaker 2: That you strive for. And I'd say I always tell

1372
00:52:16,776 --> 00:52:17,096
Speaker 2: people this.

1373
00:52:17,216 --> 00:52:19,216
Speaker 4: I said, if there was one person that I'd ever

1374
00:52:19,296 --> 00:52:22,536
Speaker 4: let marry my daughters, obviously not at your age now, okay,

1375
00:52:22,776 --> 00:52:25,816
Speaker 4: but but the type of person that you'd want to

1376
00:52:25,856 --> 00:52:27,736
Speaker 4: marry your daughters, it's Ryan Sucking.

1377
00:52:28,456 --> 00:52:30,816
Speaker 2: That's there's nothing more like. It's the greatest intro and

1378
00:52:30,976 --> 00:52:32,776
Speaker 2: outro in the history of our show. Man.

1379
00:52:32,816 --> 00:52:34,136
Speaker 3: I need to come hang with you guys more. I

1380
00:52:34,216 --> 00:52:35,776
Speaker 3: feel feel better about myself today.

1381
00:52:35,776 --> 00:52:35,936
Speaker 2: Man.

1382
00:52:36,016 --> 00:52:38,296
Speaker 4: Well, that's that's the whole point of this. Okay, lift

1383
00:52:38,336 --> 00:52:39,576
Speaker 4: you up and then as soon as you leave, we're

1384
00:52:39,576 --> 00:52:40,216
Speaker 4: going to tear you down.

1385
00:52:40,456 --> 00:52:42,296
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can record this. Your wife just asked that

1386
00:52:42,296 --> 00:52:44,336
Speaker 2: we do this to build you up. Y. Yes, your

1387
00:52:44,336 --> 00:52:45,776
Speaker 2: microphone actually is not working.

1388
00:52:46,656 --> 00:52:48,256
Speaker 3: Ryan. I appreciate you guys.

1389
00:53:03,456 --> 00:53:06,376
Speaker 2: All right, that was it. Ryan does allat if you

1390
00:53:06,376 --> 00:53:06,936
Speaker 2: played golf with.

1391
00:53:07,016 --> 00:53:10,936
Speaker 4: Him multiple times, and I don't like to. I like

1392
00:53:11,016 --> 00:53:13,576
Speaker 4: to watch him play golf, but when you play with him, he.

1393
00:53:13,656 --> 00:53:17,776
Speaker 2: Just makes you feel like such a golfer because he's

1394
00:53:17,816 --> 00:53:22,856
Speaker 2: so good. Jakesal me a coke? H all right, kind

1395
00:53:22,856 --> 00:53:23,576
Speaker 2: I'll get you a coke.

1396
00:53:23,896 --> 00:53:26,496
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why. But it is he's a sight to

1397
00:53:26,496 --> 00:53:28,336
Speaker 4: see on the golf course. And I'm not I'm talking

1398
00:53:28,376 --> 00:53:29,176
Speaker 4: about his golf game?

1399
00:53:29,536 --> 00:53:34,456
Speaker 2: Is he because he is so good? Does he still

1400
00:53:34,456 --> 00:53:39,896
Speaker 2: make you feel worthy? A great shot? Chaos? Yeah, great shot, cass, Hey,

1401
00:53:39,976 --> 00:53:40,656
Speaker 2: you're you're all right?

1402
00:53:41,216 --> 00:53:43,696
Speaker 4: And I'm like, dude, beat it, Like if I was

1403
00:53:43,736 --> 00:53:46,256
Speaker 4: that good and I'm playing with my buddies, I'm talking

1404
00:53:46,336 --> 00:53:47,936
Speaker 4: so much smack to you, like.

1405
00:53:48,016 --> 00:53:49,136
Speaker 5: How you like that ball?

1406
00:53:49,936 --> 00:53:52,296
Speaker 2: Like you know, just just a nice guy, that's what

1407
00:53:52,336 --> 00:53:56,576
Speaker 2: I am. Yeah, you are a hugger. You better believe it.

1408
00:53:56,816 --> 00:53:59,296
Speaker 2: I have a friend named George Burge. He's got a

1409
00:53:59,336 --> 00:54:01,976
Speaker 2: couple of number one in the country music and he

1410
00:54:01,976 --> 00:54:04,336
Speaker 2: played golf at Texas University of Texas. That's a pretty

1411
00:54:04,336 --> 00:54:08,416
Speaker 2: big deal. He's awesome. But the craziest thing about him

1412
00:54:08,536 --> 00:54:13,176
Speaker 2: because he's probably a plus one right because he gets

1413
00:54:13,216 --> 00:54:14,656
Speaker 2: playing a bit on the road, you know, he's out.

1414
00:54:14,936 --> 00:54:17,456
Speaker 2: The craziest thing about him is he's such a nice

1415
00:54:17,496 --> 00:54:19,616
Speaker 2: guy when he plays, and he roots you on so

1416
00:54:19,776 --> 00:54:22,336
Speaker 2: hard that even though he's so good, you like playing

1417
00:54:22,376 --> 00:54:24,376
Speaker 2: with them, which is a bit counterintuitive because you think

1418
00:54:24,376 --> 00:54:25,696
Speaker 2: if you were playing with somebody that was so good,

1419
00:54:25,736 --> 00:54:28,736
Speaker 2: you would feel so inferior that it would be bothersome.

1420
00:54:28,896 --> 00:54:33,016
Speaker 2: I do feel inferior. M yeah, But but.

1421
00:54:33,016 --> 00:54:34,936
Speaker 5: He doesn't make you feel that way, is what you're saying.

1422
00:54:35,176 --> 00:54:36,896
Speaker 2: Not at all. If anything, you're like, man, I'm just

1423
00:54:36,896 --> 00:54:40,176
Speaker 2: a couple of things by being like you, George. No reality, never,

1424
00:54:40,256 --> 00:54:43,616
Speaker 2: that's never the Once I did a deal with a

1425
00:54:43,616 --> 00:54:46,856
Speaker 2: certain golf brand and because I had a sponsorship deal

1426
00:54:46,896 --> 00:54:48,296
Speaker 2: with him, and I'm not very a very good golfer,

1427
00:54:48,336 --> 00:54:50,736
Speaker 2: like I'm a twelve and so, but I like to

1428
00:54:50,736 --> 00:54:52,576
Speaker 2: play some and I'll play a lot for a couple

1429
00:54:52,536 --> 00:54:54,376
Speaker 2: of months and I haven't played at all in like

1430
00:54:54,536 --> 00:54:58,656
Speaker 2: seven weeks. So, but I was doing enough, and I

1431
00:54:58,736 --> 00:55:00,416
Speaker 2: was playing some of the celebrity games at the time,

1432
00:55:00,456 --> 00:55:02,976
Speaker 2: back when I was a celebrity, and they were like, hey,

1433
00:55:03,016 --> 00:55:04,776
Speaker 2: we want to So I did a deal with him,

1434
00:55:04,816 --> 00:55:06,576
Speaker 2: and I said, hey, I want to do this series

1435
00:55:06,816 --> 00:55:08,976
Speaker 2: with our guy Kevin, and we'll try to do like

1436
00:55:08,976 --> 00:55:10,856
Speaker 2: Break ninety because Kevin was just like playing golf for

1437
00:55:10,896 --> 00:55:12,776
Speaker 2: the first time. And so they say, Kevin, all these clubs,

1438
00:55:12,776 --> 00:55:14,696
Speaker 2: you got them fitted like thousands of dollars worth of

1439
00:55:14,696 --> 00:55:17,496
Speaker 2: clubs whole think we never did the series. Oh man,

1440
00:55:17,856 --> 00:55:20,856
Speaker 2: can you put them again? Because we just we just

1441
00:55:20,856 --> 00:55:24,136
Speaker 2: never had to. I don't really know what happened. I'm

1442
00:55:24,136 --> 00:55:26,936
Speaker 2: not with them anymore. That's not why I wonder why,

1443
00:55:27,256 --> 00:55:29,856
Speaker 2: but we just never Yeah, we we filmed like one

1444
00:55:30,016 --> 00:55:32,456
Speaker 2: day and then it just kind of fizzled out when

1445
00:55:32,456 --> 00:55:34,576
Speaker 2: we're on it. I mean that's just the I'm not

1446
00:55:34,616 --> 00:55:34,976
Speaker 2: even sure.

1447
00:55:35,016 --> 00:55:37,815
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, yeah, that's why you guys get free

1448
00:55:37,816 --> 00:55:38,656
Speaker 4: stuff around here.

1449
00:55:39,136 --> 00:55:40,256
Speaker 2: It wasn't on purpose.

1450
00:55:41,536 --> 00:55:44,016
Speaker 4: Well that's awesome though, And the fact that you got

1451
00:55:44,096 --> 00:55:46,216
Speaker 4: new clubs, that's oh yeah.

1452
00:55:46,256 --> 00:55:47,176
Speaker 2: They're a plus.

1453
00:55:47,536 --> 00:55:47,736
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1454
00:55:47,776 --> 00:55:49,296
Speaker 5: I mean, can I give like a like a.

1455
00:55:49,816 --> 00:55:52,056
Speaker 2: I wouldn't plug them because then if somebody's listening from it,

1456
00:55:52,056 --> 00:55:54,616
Speaker 2: they'd be like, oh yeah Ice Range.

1457
00:55:54,656 --> 00:55:56,776
Speaker 5: I mean probably all together about thirty five hundred bucks.

1458
00:55:57,096 --> 00:56:00,536
Speaker 2: Good good group of good group of clubs. Yeah, we

1459
00:56:00,536 --> 00:56:02,496
Speaker 2: were supposed to do it, but they never even were like, hey,

1460
00:56:02,536 --> 00:56:04,336
Speaker 2: where's the dead? I think they just throw so much

1461
00:56:04,336 --> 00:56:06,336
Speaker 2: stuff out to the people they were with, and then

1462
00:56:06,336 --> 00:56:08,336
Speaker 2: I stopped working with them. That's amazing.

1463
00:56:08,456 --> 00:56:11,096
Speaker 4: My deal ran now fire they forgot because I definitely

1464
00:56:11,096 --> 00:56:11,776
Speaker 4: need new clubs.

1465
00:56:11,936 --> 00:56:13,376
Speaker 2: You No, no, we're not doing We're not. I'm not

1466
00:56:13,416 --> 00:56:13,936
Speaker 2: going back to it.

1467
00:56:14,296 --> 00:56:14,536
Speaker 3: I don't.

1468
00:56:14,656 --> 00:56:15,416
Speaker 2: I haven't deal with them.

1469
00:56:16,056 --> 00:56:19,576
Speaker 4: I was promote you in whatever capacity I have to Bobby.

1470
00:56:19,616 --> 00:56:21,016
Speaker 4: Bobby's already committed to the show.

1471
00:56:21,216 --> 00:56:23,576
Speaker 2: I'll say this one final thing and don't do it now.

1472
00:56:23,616 --> 00:56:25,536
Speaker 2: You never change your Instagram name. That's how that's how

1473
00:56:25,536 --> 00:56:26,336
Speaker 2: little you think of us.

1474
00:56:26,456 --> 00:56:27,256
Speaker 5: No, I think of you.

1475
00:56:27,736 --> 00:56:30,096
Speaker 2: And I asked because it's so weird because who is

1476
00:56:30,256 --> 00:56:32,856
Speaker 2: m Underscore Castle? Like nobody knows? And when I'm like,

1477
00:56:33,016 --> 00:56:37,016
Speaker 2: knows that Underscore. But if I was like, be Underscore

1478
00:56:37,176 --> 00:56:42,496
Speaker 2: B thirty two, it says my last name. If it

1479
00:56:42,536 --> 00:56:45,496
Speaker 2: said even Matt Castle sixteen. But when I'm like, hey,

1480
00:56:45,496 --> 00:56:47,256
Speaker 2: I'm doing this show, you should watch. Here's a clip

1481
00:56:47,376 --> 00:56:50,136
Speaker 2: me and Matt Castle, they were like me a clip

1482
00:56:50,136 --> 00:56:51,656
Speaker 2: and me and Underscore m Castle.

1483
00:56:51,696 --> 00:56:53,616
Speaker 6: I don't think people know who that is. I think

1484
00:56:53,616 --> 00:56:57,096
Speaker 6: it's hurting us. All right, I'll get it together. Already

1485
00:56:57,136 --> 00:56:59,456
Speaker 6: went and talked about social media. No, I literally talked

1486
00:56:59,456 --> 00:57:01,456
Speaker 6: to him. He's like, I think that you're the where

1487
00:57:01,456 --> 00:57:02,376
Speaker 6: you're at right now.

1488
00:57:02,616 --> 00:57:05,256
Speaker 4: Enough people know that this when they come to this page,

1489
00:57:05,296 --> 00:57:06,976
Speaker 4: is that it would be this, that and the other

1490
00:57:07,016 --> 00:57:09,136
Speaker 4: to change it. So it's probably more to it than

1491
00:57:09,176 --> 00:57:11,936
Speaker 4: that conversation. But I swear on my love for my

1492
00:57:11,976 --> 00:57:13,696
Speaker 4: family that I did have that conversation.

1493
00:57:14,656 --> 00:57:16,856
Speaker 2: It's fine. I'm just saying when I tag you and stuff,

1494
00:57:17,576 --> 00:57:19,576
Speaker 2: I have no I have to write, hey, I'm doing

1495
00:57:19,576 --> 00:57:20,776
Speaker 2: the show with it. I have to write your name

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Speaker 2: Matt Castle parentheses M underscore And it looks like if

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Speaker 2: you don't know, it looks like Cassell. No, it does,

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Speaker 2: it always has, always has. I just changed it in

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Speaker 2: my phone last week. Yeah, I have my phone is

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Speaker 2: m underscore Cassel. All right, we're done, Thank you guys.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to Ryan. How'd you call him suck off? I did?

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Speaker 2: I felt so bad out Thanks to Ryan suck Off.

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Speaker 2: That's Matt Castle. Let's kick off, Kevin, that's Brandon Ram,

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Speaker 2: Bobby Joon, We'll see you next week by Buddy.

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