WEBVTT - How Fossils Work

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<v Speaker 1>It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff you should know

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<v Speaker 1>from house Stuff Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with me as always as

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<v Speaker 1>the intrepid paleontologist Charles W. Chuck Bryant. It's terrible, Wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>I like it? Okay? I wish I was a Paleontologist's

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<v Speaker 1>your new nickname? Or intrepid? At least? Let's just go

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<v Speaker 1>with paleontologists. That'd be great. Okay, we're talking fossils today. Dude,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't really interesting stuff? It really is. And um,

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<v Speaker 1>you can tell that Tracy Wilson are esteemed head of

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<v Speaker 1>the writing editor. I think she's site director director right. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you can tell that she was very, very excited. She

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<v Speaker 1>took her time and really dolled this one out. I think, um,

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<v Speaker 1>save her is the right word. You can feel it

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<v Speaker 1>her smiling through the keyboard. Yeah, she's very happy to

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<v Speaker 1>write how fossils work, and um, we're happy to do

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<v Speaker 1>it because it's one of those very comprehensive articles on

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<v Speaker 1>the site that you just has. It has everything you need.

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<v Speaker 1>Sedimentary rock flat bones versus round bones leaf impressions has

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<v Speaker 1>it all unless you're an intrepid paleontologist, and we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>an email saying it actually wasn't very comprehensive. You guys

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<v Speaker 1>royally screwed this up. We just wait until we get

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<v Speaker 1>into punctuated versus gradual evolution. Chuck, Um, you've heard of

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<v Speaker 1>Lucy right, the austral epithecuss Yeah, okay, Well, Um, she

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<v Speaker 1>was I think three point two million years old. That's

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<v Speaker 1>one old lady. It really is the earliest hominid we've

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<v Speaker 1>found as far as I know. Um, But there's a

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<v Speaker 1>part of her foot missing. It's always been missing that

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<v Speaker 1>we've never found before. So this thing, this bone, was

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<v Speaker 1>so essential that we couldn't tell how she walked until recently.

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<v Speaker 1>Why because the missing bone, we couldn't tell how she

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<v Speaker 1>walked exactly. We we we can tell so much from

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<v Speaker 1>bones that when we don't have the right bones, we

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<v Speaker 1>can't tell anything. So she may have been in a

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<v Speaker 1>knuckle dragger, she may have hopped, we didn't know. Well. Recently, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>some people from the University of Missouri or Missouri, depending

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<v Speaker 1>on whether or not you live in the state, UM

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<v Speaker 1>found the Uh, the group of foot bones needed to

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<v Speaker 1>show what kind of walker Lucy was. And she walked

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<v Speaker 1>up right? How was her gate? Upright? Upright? Just like

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<v Speaker 1>a human. She had a hitching her get along, she

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<v Speaker 1>had a pepper and her step. Possibly she knew she'd

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<v Speaker 1>be famous one day with duck. But but consider this, right,

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<v Speaker 1>three point two million year old footbones were found and

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<v Speaker 1>we could tell from them how she walked. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the state of the field that you remember paleontology. Pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how advanced it is, and yet it's really

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of using common sense to figure out what

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<v Speaker 1>old bones mean. Common sense and science. Fossils go, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it, Chuck. What are some of the different

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of fossils. Uh, well, one of my favorite kinds

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<v Speaker 1>is trace fossil. Yeah, that's actually one of my favorites too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, um, that Jesus footprint thing, footprints in the sand. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's sort of this josh um that is when it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually not part of the organism at all, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>um like tooth marks in a chunk of wood from

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<v Speaker 1>a saborite tooth tiger, or footprints or footprints or track ways,

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<v Speaker 1>as Tracy calls them. Yes, footprints, it's just unnecessary, but

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<v Speaker 1>it has a pleasant tone, you know science. Yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not footprints, the track ways I'm bored in Ethiopia, let's

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<v Speaker 1>call so trace fossils is one. Of course, there's bone fossils, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the most famous fossils. Yeah, those are great too. They

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<v Speaker 1>got nothing on trace fossils. So actually, bone fossils, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you really want. If you're going to reconstruct

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<v Speaker 1>a dinosaur for your museum. You can't deal it with footprints, No,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't. You need the bones. And the bones are

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<v Speaker 1>of course the most famous ones in the dinosaur bones

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<v Speaker 1>are the most famous of all the bone types. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's something that I think um is often missed

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<v Speaker 1>by lay people such as myself um in in that

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<v Speaker 1>when you find a bone, right, so, you find like

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<v Speaker 1>a big old dinosaur bone, it's really geologically speaking, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a bone any longer. It's not like you find

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<v Speaker 1>a bone buried in your yard that was an animal

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<v Speaker 1>from like, you know, thirty five years ago, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>not a fossil. That's still bone. A fossil is a

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<v Speaker 1>bone or a piece of um, once living organic material

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<v Speaker 1>that's undergone a transition from uh, an organic state to

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<v Speaker 1>an inorganic state. That's what a fossil is. It's gone

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<v Speaker 1>through the process of fossilization. And most of these fossils,

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<v Speaker 1>the vast majority of fossils, are found in sedimentary rock.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we go any further, we should probably do a

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<v Speaker 1>little brief primer on sedimentary rock, right, which is awesome. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty easy to Uh, we've talked about the Earth's core,

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<v Speaker 1>um and layers. When I think we talked about earthquakes

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe some other stuff. We all know that there's

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<v Speaker 1>the inn core, outer core. We got the crust. Crust

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<v Speaker 1>is the thinnest layer, and that's where the fossils are.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where the goods are. And uh, most of the

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<v Speaker 1>rocks in the crust are sedimentary rocks. You've been talking

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<v Speaker 1>about off and on for the past eight minutes, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's like silty sandy stuff that hardened over the right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but the the Earth, Remember we talked about oh,

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<v Speaker 1>what was it clouds I can't remember what podcast it was,

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<v Speaker 1>but we talked about how much sand is transferred from

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<v Speaker 1>Africa to South America annually. But if you remember the

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<v Speaker 1>one I'm talking about. Okay, so the Earth's geo biogeochemical

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<v Speaker 1>processes equal a lot of movement of particulate matter. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>The Earth is dynamic, baby, it is. It's also very fluid.

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<v Speaker 1>To write, A lot of that matter is at at

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<v Speaker 1>one point as suspended particles in water that's moving around, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So um as this as the water leaves and the

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<v Speaker 1>sediment is deposited, it builds up and up and up.

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<v Speaker 1>Over time, it hardens into rock and eventually we have

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<v Speaker 1>sedimentary rock which is below our feet. We don't normally

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<v Speaker 1>see it unless say, the Colorado River um winds over

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<v Speaker 1>it for you know, millions and millions and millions of years,

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<v Speaker 1>revealing the sedimentary rocket that's in the Earth's cross Grand Canyon,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what you're talking about. Yeah, I forgot the Grand

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<v Speaker 1>Canyon park. So you know how I said the Earth

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<v Speaker 1>was dynamic, baby? Yeah? Uh, that's important. I didn't just

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<v Speaker 1>throw that in there as a factoid. It's important because

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<v Speaker 1>when these plates shift around, that's how fossils are on Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>Things can be moved great distances and pushed to the

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<v Speaker 1>surface eventually or close enough to where a dig can

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<v Speaker 1>unearth it. And it's like just because it's fossilized, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's stuck in that one spot forever, because Earth

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<v Speaker 1>is always moving. So the point of all this is

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<v Speaker 1>is sedimentary rock um is like you said, dynamic. It

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<v Speaker 1>moves around. Sometimes fossils pop up, or it becomes exposed

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<v Speaker 1>all of the Colorado River um, and that is where

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<v Speaker 1>fossils are, right Chuck. Yes, So let's say that at

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<v Speaker 1>some point in time there was a dinosaur or a

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<v Speaker 1>saber tooth tiger or a cyanobacteria wily mammoth, woly mammoth,

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<v Speaker 1>sure um, and it's um hanging out around the riverbed

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<v Speaker 1>and it has a massive heart attack and falls over

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<v Speaker 1>in the river bed and very quickly it becomes covered

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<v Speaker 1>with sediment and silt, right yeah, And that's important because

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<v Speaker 1>once it starts getting covered up with stuff, it's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of being protected from like all of us. Let's just

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<v Speaker 1>break the news. All of fossil means is that something

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<v Speaker 1>has been protected from the natural decomposition process. Otherwise we

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<v Speaker 1>just decompose like everything else and you wouldn't see anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>You just totally betrayed Tracy in the tone she went

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<v Speaker 1>to this, that the whole drama drawing out suspense. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's true. So what you said was right. So you'd

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<v Speaker 1>fall over in a riverbed, you start getting covered up

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<v Speaker 1>with the sediment and silt, and it's it's immediately starting

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<v Speaker 1>to protect you in a way. Um, not you, but whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>the wily mammoth, the wooly mammoth. Um. The thing is

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<v Speaker 1>the in this sediment, in this still, you can't really

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<v Speaker 1>hide from macrobacteria, uh and other forms of life that

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<v Speaker 1>are basically dedicated to breaking down organic matter, soft tissue, hair, eyeballs, um, genitalia,

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<v Speaker 1>all that kind of stuff. It eventually becomes broken down

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<v Speaker 1>and what's left is the hard stuff, the bone, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But the bone also has organic material within it as well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that'll break down. We're talking blood, cells, collagen, fat,

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna break down. To the key here is the

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<v Speaker 1>inorganic parts of the bone remain intact. And it's the

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<v Speaker 1>other keyword here's porous. Yes. Well, you take calcium, I

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<v Speaker 1>imagine for your hips. Yeah, sure, glucosim and calcium. Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So what you're doing is, um, you're fortifying the calcium

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<v Speaker 1>that's already in your hips supposedly, um, because the bone

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<v Speaker 1>is made in large part of calcium, which is a mineral,

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<v Speaker 1>which is inorganic, So it's all the organic stuff dies

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<v Speaker 1>that out. What's left is, like you said, the inorganic

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<v Speaker 1>like calcium, whatever, minerals, and that holds the shape, right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the initial structure is kept intact, right, But like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>this bone is also porous. Yeah, that's the key, and

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<v Speaker 1>over time, um other mineral sediment kind of um it

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<v Speaker 1>enters into these these microscopic pores iron right, carbonate and

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<v Speaker 1>fortifies this, ultimately turning this but what was once an

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<v Speaker 1>organic bone into an inorganic rock in the shape of

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<v Speaker 1>the bone. Yeah, but for all intensive prefaces, it's still

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<v Speaker 1>the bone. It still has that original calcium. It's still

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. It's not like a replica of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just become fossilized. Yeah. And Tracy in the article

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<v Speaker 1>uses a pretty good example. I thought, it's like filling

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<v Speaker 1>a sponge with glue. The sponge is gonna keep the shape,

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<v Speaker 1>but the glue is gonna ouze through all these spots

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<v Speaker 1>that it can ouze harden, and there you go. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got a hard sponge, a hard sponge, which is basically

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<v Speaker 1>what a fossil is. And this takes place Josh over

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<v Speaker 1>the course of millions of years, the sediment reinforcing the

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<v Speaker 1>bones eventually becoming rock. It's not the kind of thing

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<v Speaker 1>that happens willy nilly over thousands of years a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just this isn't just UM happening by itself.

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<v Speaker 1>All of the surrounding area UM is being deposited with

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<v Speaker 1>sediment as well. It's also turning into rock UM. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the ultimate test of time for a fossil is

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<v Speaker 1>that it can withstand the pressure of the that's mounted

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<v Speaker 1>by the hardening rock sedimentary rock that's growing around it,

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<v Speaker 1>so it can be crushed. Is that how? A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fossils are definitely crushed crushed the death um. But

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<v Speaker 1>if it survives and you can find this, you will

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<v Speaker 1>eventually be able to get to it. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>remove the rock from around the fossil, and there's your

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<v Speaker 1>bone that you can take to the Natural History Museum

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<v Speaker 1>and get at least five dollars for When you were

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, Josh, let me ask this, did you ever

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<v Speaker 1>go into the woods on a little nature course from

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<v Speaker 1>like a science center, let's say, and do a cast

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<v Speaker 1>plaster cast of a animal footprint? Do you ever do that? No? Really,

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<v Speaker 1>really I did that. We went and found like deer

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<v Speaker 1>hoof prints, you fill it with plaster, and there was

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<v Speaker 1>some way of doing it where you got an inverse

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<v Speaker 1>plaster cast of a deer hoof print. That can happen

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<v Speaker 1>actually in a way that with trace fossils, So you can,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sediment connect the same way in one of these.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say the wooly mammoth makes a footprint in some

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<v Speaker 1>loose but sturdy soil that fills up with sediment and

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<v Speaker 1>creates basically a mold, just like I did as a

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<v Speaker 1>kid with the plaster cast. Yeah, as long as the

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<v Speaker 1>sediment that fills it in is lighter or thinner, yeah

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<v Speaker 1>than the soil that the impression is made in, then yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it would it would, It would preserve that track. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And plants can do the same thing. It's not just

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<v Speaker 1>bones we're talking about. Um. It can also fill in

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<v Speaker 1>in a different way. I guess the was it way

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<v Speaker 1>to where it makes a basically a cast of the

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<v Speaker 1>foot that made the track. And then so it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of like a fossil of a ghost foot

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<v Speaker 1>that's not really there, but it makes the foot. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like an inverse cast, okay, of not the track, but

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<v Speaker 1>the foot that made the track cool. You know what.

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<v Speaker 1>Other another my favorite trace fossil is it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>track way, it's copper light. I changed my mind. That

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<v Speaker 1>is a good one. That's done it poop, fossilized poop,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. I can tell you a lot about an animal.

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<v Speaker 1>It can tell you about its fiber intake. It can

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<v Speaker 1>tell you about what size it's poop was. Um chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, in the eighties the CIA found out much

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<v Speaker 1>about Gorbichoff and his health. They found out he had

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<v Speaker 1>like cancer or some sort of chronic illness um by

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<v Speaker 1>stealing his poop when he was when he came the

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<v Speaker 1>state visit to the US, they took his poop and

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<v Speaker 1>analyzed it, and when he was in the US they

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<v Speaker 1>described it from the toilet. Did he not flush? I

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<v Speaker 1>just want more specifics that you probably don't have. As

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<v Speaker 1>far as I understand, they probably his hotel room or

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<v Speaker 1>wherever he was staying. They were prepared to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>This was like toilet rigged. Probably yes, But wherever Reagan

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<v Speaker 1>went they had a portable toilet that he used. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the only one he was allowed to use. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not kidding. So no one can steal his poop. Talk

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<v Speaker 1>about paranoid. Yeah, seriously, when you point one finger, there's

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<v Speaker 1>three pointing back at you, you know what I mean. Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Uh so, Josh, that is sedimentary rock and that's to

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<v Speaker 1>me one of the cooler ways you can get a fossil.

0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Petrified wood too. Don't leave that one out. It's basically

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing that we just described for bone, but

0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:56.200
<v Speaker 1>for wood hard as a rock because it is a rock.

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<v Speaker 1>Here you go, alright, So like I just said, um,

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<v Speaker 1>that was dementary rock and that's kind of fun. But

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<v Speaker 1>you can also uh get a fossil. Has that funny

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<v Speaker 1>because one dies in a cave that's really dry. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Desiccation Yeah, desiccation is basically, uh, sort of a mummification,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not like we think of with mummification with

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<v Speaker 1>the Egyptian tombs or anything like that. Well, that's because

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<v Speaker 1>there's no preservation techniques that have been undertaken. Basically, it

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<v Speaker 1>dries out. It's like throwing an orange in a dehydrator.

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<v Speaker 1>So when it's really dry, there's not gonna be any

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<v Speaker 1>place for bacteria to thrive. That's the reason beef jerky

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<v Speaker 1>is not um refrigerated. If you refrigerate your beef jerkey,

0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:40.360
<v Speaker 1>you're you're doing something wrong. Yeah, that's true. Well, if

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<v Speaker 1>you have beef jerky long enough to need refrigeration, then

0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:48.440
<v Speaker 1>you're doing something wrong or something really really right. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>So desiccation actually works so well sometimes that it can

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<v Speaker 1>preserve the skin and soft tissues as well, which is

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<v Speaker 1>something that sedimentary rock cannot do. Have you been to

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<v Speaker 1>the Smithsonian? I have they have um a very cool

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<v Speaker 1>I guess a prehistoric cow or a musk ox I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember, but it's the thing's head, um, much of

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<v Speaker 1>its back, I guess, the cape, two of its legs,

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<v Speaker 1>and the skin is still there. It's just right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably it's tens of thousands of years old and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just sitting right there. Did they rebuild could they rebuild

0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.280
<v Speaker 1>it or just put the parts up? It's just the parts,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's laid out so that like it gives you

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<v Speaker 1>the impression of what you're looking at, but its face

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<v Speaker 1>is still there. It's very cool. Uh. My favorite kind

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<v Speaker 1>of fossil, though, Josh, is I'm gonna say that, like

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<v Speaker 1>every five minutes is a frozen fossil. Because if you

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<v Speaker 1>get trapped let's see your wily mammoth trapped in ice.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only is that going to keep other like vultures

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<v Speaker 1>and things from picking up your bones and skin, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's also going to keep it from breaking down. And

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<v Speaker 1>you can get hair fully preserved sometimes if you're in

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<v Speaker 1>skin and like a big mammoth. Have you seen pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of Leuba No? Liuba is a baby wooly mammoth that

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<v Speaker 1>was found um by a reindeer herder in Siberia and

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<v Speaker 1>um it was pounds or something like that, but it

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<v Speaker 1>would have gotten up to several times. It is adorable

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<v Speaker 1>because it is a fully preserved wooly mammoth baby with

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<v Speaker 1>the wrinkles in the skin and everything, yet spent forty

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<v Speaker 1>years in the perma frost. But it's like completely intact.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very cute. That's why it's my favorite. It's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the cutest dead things you'll ever see. Another couple

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<v Speaker 1>of ways you can get a fossil josh, which are

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<v Speaker 1>not my favorite, are a tar librea tar pits, although

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<v Speaker 1>that is one of my favorites, which librea tar pit

0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:43.040
<v Speaker 1>is actually redundant because Librea means the tar, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>calling it the tar tart pit, and not the tartar.

0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:48.359
<v Speaker 1>Did I ever tell you about when I shot a

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<v Speaker 1>commercial there? Have you? Did you go by there in

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<v Speaker 1>l A? No? I want to. I forgot about it

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<v Speaker 1>when we were there last Well, for those of you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been, it's right in the middle of Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>like south of Hollywood on Wilson Bull Levard, and it's um.

0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:06.920
<v Speaker 1>The main tar pit is uh. Tar pits are fenced off, obviously,

0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:09.800
<v Speaker 1>and they have little recreations. It's it's actually the saddest

0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:11.880
<v Speaker 1>thing you'll ever see. The recreation they have in there

0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:14.520
<v Speaker 1>is of a like I guess it's a mother wooly

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<v Speaker 1>mammoth trapped in the tar trying to get out, and

0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:21.920
<v Speaker 1>the father and the baby on shore like howling. It's awful.

0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:24.760
<v Speaker 1>But it's still active, like all this tars bubbling up

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<v Speaker 1>and everything. And shot a commercial there once and I

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<v Speaker 1>was on the other side of the property, far away

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<v Speaker 1>from the main pit, and I looked down and there

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<v Speaker 1>was a little mini tar pit, a little tar puddle

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<v Speaker 1>about a foot wide, bubbling right beneath my feet. I

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<v Speaker 1>could have scooped it up with my finger if I

0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:47.680
<v Speaker 1>had been so inclined. Yeah, Instead, you're like that stinks. Well,

0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:51.399
<v Speaker 1>it's just crazy to think that that's still like it's happening. Apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>um I looked it up. There's um there's like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>main pits that are chained off and that are still

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<v Speaker 1>being excavated. But they have them like in neighborhood. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all around the area and parks. They're just kind of

0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:05.800
<v Speaker 1>all over the place around there. That's like parts of

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<v Speaker 1>Stone Mountain popping up all over the place. We used

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<v Speaker 1>We had a big chunk of stone Mountain in our

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<v Speaker 1>backyard growing up. All right. For those of you don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>Stone Mountain is the world's largest exposed piece of granite

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<v Speaker 1>and it is right here in our home state. And

0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:22.480
<v Speaker 1>it takes like thirty minutes to hike, but you still

0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:23.800
<v Speaker 1>get to get to the top and be like I

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<v Speaker 1>just hiked a mountain, which I have, Josh. You can

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<v Speaker 1>also get a pete. Mossy pete can preserve life forms,

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<v Speaker 1>including human beings like tolon Man? Was it? Who was

0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:37.399
<v Speaker 1>that Toland Man? I don't know about him? How do

0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:40.239
<v Speaker 1>you know? All these people? To people? The first the

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<v Speaker 1>first um multi syllable word I could spell with archaeology. Really,

0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I've always been interested in that I could see that. Yeah,

0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Tolan Man. Also it doesn't. You can hate archaeology like

0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:54.960
<v Speaker 1>some people hate art, and you'll still be interested in

0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Toland Man. Um, he was He's found in Denmark. He

0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:03.879
<v Speaker 1>lived years go and he was murdered. Uh, sacrificially they think,

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<v Speaker 1>and cast into the peat bog which pete is just

0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:10.520
<v Speaker 1>decomposing moss and lots of it, but it has a tendency.

0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I think it's anaerobic. So um tissue is preserved really well.

0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:16.480
<v Speaker 1>But it's this guy that they dug up and he's

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<v Speaker 1>so well preserved that when they found him in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifties they called the cops because they thought they'd

0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:23.840
<v Speaker 1>found a murder victim, like a recent one. It looks

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<v Speaker 1>kind of funny, but he's got his whiskers are preserved,

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<v Speaker 1>he's wearing a cap, he still has this the garrett

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<v Speaker 1>around his neck. Um, it's really awesome. So like three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred to four hundred BC is one who was killed

0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:42.400
<v Speaker 1>and he's wearing a hat. Yeah, sheepskin leather cap. Yeah.

0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:45.879
<v Speaker 1>No last chance garage for him. No. Well uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>then my favorite way, Josh, that you can get a

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<v Speaker 1>fossil h you're joking. Did you say it again? Is amber?

0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:55.800
<v Speaker 1>They just keep getting better and better, like the movie

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<v Speaker 1>Jurassic Park. Yeah, that's how we get dinosaurs again. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>dino d NA. So you found something on on whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not that's feasible, right, Yeah, because I always wondered.

0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:07.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, when you see Jurassic Park, you see the

0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:10.359
<v Speaker 1>little video They made it clearly to explain to the

0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:12.800
<v Speaker 1>movie going audience how this was done. It's better than

0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Ellen Page running around. What was that movie inception? Um So,

0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:22.800
<v Speaker 1>the mosquito flies and tree resident tree resident eventually becomes

0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:26.640
<v Speaker 1>hard as copal than it eventually becomes inert as amber.

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<v Speaker 1>You get the little mosquito in there. They extracted the

0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:32.320
<v Speaker 1>dino DNA from the blood of the mosquito, filled in

0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:35.960
<v Speaker 1>the gaps with I think frog DNA, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>all there was to it. And at the time I thought, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, I thought that seems plausible, and it

0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:44.760
<v Speaker 1>sort of is. But I did look up today and

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<v Speaker 1>there was a researcher that was interviewed at the or

0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:50.600
<v Speaker 1>closer to that time. I think that basically debunked it

0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:54.440
<v Speaker 1>and said we could potentially maybe get some DNA even

0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:58.080
<v Speaker 1>though it's really fragile and loses his signature really quickly.

0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:01.240
<v Speaker 1>Even if you could get the in a he said

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<v Speaker 1>that you couldn't construct a dinosaurs just you can't fill

0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:07.320
<v Speaker 1>in the blanks like that. There's way too many blanks.

0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:11.320
<v Speaker 1>You have a giant frog, yeah, with little tiny arms

0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:14.720
<v Speaker 1>forearms that Steven Spielberg made us believe when you saw

0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:17.159
<v Speaker 1>those dinosaurs walk across that field. That guy can make

0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:21.640
<v Speaker 1>me believe in anything, that aliens came to the American Southwest,

0:22:22.040 --> 0:22:26.960
<v Speaker 1>that there was a World War two. That um home,

0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:32.679
<v Speaker 1>yea good stuff. Uh, where are we here? Chuck it.

0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:34.679
<v Speaker 1>We're kind of painting this picture where if like you

0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:36.800
<v Speaker 1>just stick a shovel anywhere on the Earth, you're gonna

0:22:36.920 --> 0:22:40.280
<v Speaker 1>yield like all sorts of bones and fossils. No, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not um. First of all, a mere fraction that I

0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:48.320
<v Speaker 1>don't think could possibly be calculated because we rely on

0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:52.240
<v Speaker 1>the fossil record to show us what existed back when,

0:22:52.840 --> 0:22:55.840
<v Speaker 1>and it's incomplete. Therefore we've entered to catch twenty two.

0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:59.240
<v Speaker 1>But there's just a mere fraction of all of the

0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:05.600
<v Speaker 1>species organisms that's ever lived that become fossilized UM Like. Basically,

0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:08.959
<v Speaker 1>a perfect storm of chance has to occur for a

0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:11.919
<v Speaker 1>fossil to be created. As we've seen, even when it

0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:15.800
<v Speaker 1>is created, it can still be crushed into oblivion. Um.

0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:20.359
<v Speaker 1>And so there are few and far between to begin with.

0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:24.320
<v Speaker 1>What we have to figure out where to find them? Well,

0:23:24.600 --> 0:23:26.080
<v Speaker 1>then you got to find that. That's the other problem,

0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:28.800
<v Speaker 1>and the way we find it is by identifying rock

0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:32.640
<v Speaker 1>that will likely have the type of fossil that we're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for. Yeah, so if you want something that from

0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:39.360
<v Speaker 1>that year. So if you know that this animal, yeah,

0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:41.399
<v Speaker 1>if you if you know this this animal lived, you know,

0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:43.639
<v Speaker 1>thirty million years ago, you're gonna go find rock that

0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:46.399
<v Speaker 1>you know is thirty million years old and start poking

0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:50.320
<v Speaker 1>around and you know, looking this sort of a very

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:54.280
<v Speaker 1>chance thing. And we know that, um, we know, like

0:23:54.400 --> 0:23:57.639
<v Speaker 1>say a layer of rock or strata of rock is

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<v Speaker 1>thirty million years old because of the technique we have

0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:06.680
<v Speaker 1>called radiocarbon dating. Right, Yeah, you want to do this one? Well, sure,

0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Carbon fourteen dating is what a lot of people toss

0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:12.080
<v Speaker 1>around because that's probably the most well known, but that

0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:15.800
<v Speaker 1>can only take you back sixty thousand years and we're

0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:18.159
<v Speaker 1>talking millions and billions of years, so they need to

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<v Speaker 1>uh study isotopes like potassium forty and uranian two thirty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>because that goes back millions of years evidently. The half

0:24:26.800 --> 0:24:30.280
<v Speaker 1>life yeah, and the half life is where an atom

0:24:30.359 --> 0:24:35.000
<v Speaker 1>loses half of its life isotopes to decay. Yeah, okay,

0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:38.959
<v Speaker 1>and these the this um radioactive decay takes place at

0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:43.240
<v Speaker 1>a predictable rate depending on the atom, the type of atom. Right, Yeah,

0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:46.840
<v Speaker 1>that's how I understand it. So if we find the

0:24:46.920 --> 0:24:51.359
<v Speaker 1>type of atom missing x number of isotopes, we can say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is roughly thirty million to thirty one million years

0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 1>old or thirty million to thirty million and three hundred

0:24:57.920 --> 0:25:00.600
<v Speaker 1>years old. I'm not sure what window we can date

0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:03.480
<v Speaker 1>it to, right, but I think it's enough so that,

0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:06.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, we have a rough estimate of of you know,

0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:10.800
<v Speaker 1>when this fossil lived in the sediment was buried around it. So, Josh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say that you're lucky enough and skilled enough as

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:19.960
<v Speaker 1>an intrepid paleontologist to come across your fossil. What do

0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:24.600
<v Speaker 1>you do? Well, as I said, you dig it up

0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:26.879
<v Speaker 1>and take it to the museum and sell it for

0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:30.439
<v Speaker 1>five d SIMOLEA. Well, I don't know about that, but

0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 1>you should call a museum. Even if you think you

0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:36.120
<v Speaker 1>know what you're doing, you're probably gonna need some help.

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 1>If it's something major. I think you should probably go

0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:41.080
<v Speaker 1>on the assumption that you don't know what you're doing

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:45.959
<v Speaker 1>unless you're a trained paleontologist. Um. Part of the problem

0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:49.720
<v Speaker 1>is is we assume that these fossils, being rocks, are sturdy.

0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:52.159
<v Speaker 1>That's not always the case, and so there's a lot

0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:57.280
<v Speaker 1>of danger of damage um in a just an average

0:25:57.359 --> 0:26:00.720
<v Speaker 1>joe trying to excavate him. Also, if you just pull

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<v Speaker 1>a bone up and walk away with it, uh, it

0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:06.639
<v Speaker 1>immediately loses context. Yeah, it's like removing a piece of

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:10.080
<v Speaker 1>evidence from a crimesy almost exactly. Can't do that, well,

0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:13.520
<v Speaker 1>you're not supposed to. Uh. So you know, they have

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<v Speaker 1>these huge cranes and uh, digging tools where they can

0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:20.800
<v Speaker 1>remove huge slabs of earth, which is a really good

0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:22.879
<v Speaker 1>way to do it. And sometimes if they're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's something that could be fragile, they will remove

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<v Speaker 1>the entire slab, cast it in plaster and just go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and ship that thing off to a facility to

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<v Speaker 1>handle it from there. And the cool thing is is

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<v Speaker 1>even though rock has formed around this bone, Yeah, that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>up right, all up on it, all up in it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you um flake it away properly, if you flake

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<v Speaker 1>the surrounding sedimentary rock away, um, you're going to find

0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 1>that there's what's called the plane of weakness, which is

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<v Speaker 1>where the bone and the rock are still on this

0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:58.919
<v Speaker 1>very microscopic level, they're not fused together. You're gonna hit

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<v Speaker 1>that and the box should chip right away and and

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 1>leave the bone. Yeah, And I think sometimes they missed

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:07.200
<v Speaker 1>it with water too, to soften it up and help

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:09.680
<v Speaker 1>the whole process. Another thing too, if they find that

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<v Speaker 1>is really brittle, they can actually reinforce the bone with

0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 1>resin and thin glue. But you need to be careful

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<v Speaker 1>there too, which is pretty much helping along the fossilization process. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would think so. I mean it's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like artifice, forcing it with something sturdy. Well, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you can date it using your little mass spectrometer

0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:33.439
<v Speaker 1>that's in your pocket and or a cat scan. Sometimes

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:37.480
<v Speaker 1>the use cat scans computer imaging stuff like that. Yeah.

0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:39.199
<v Speaker 1>I didn't I didn't get how they were dating it

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<v Speaker 1>from cat scan. I don't know if they're dating it

0:27:43.119 --> 0:27:46.760
<v Speaker 1>with a cat scan or just sussen. The whole thing out. Gotcha.

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's a dating situation. Tracy was just

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<v Speaker 1>throwing out some extra tools of the trade. Huh yeah, exactly,

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:57.520
<v Speaker 1>gotch So um, chuck, what is all this worth? I mean,

0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:01.680
<v Speaker 1>we we have a thirst for knowledge. Obviously people think

0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:04.960
<v Speaker 1>bones are very cool, but ultimately, what's the pursuit of

0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:09.040
<v Speaker 1>paleontology to to put together the piece of the puzzle

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 1>of how we got here? Right? I mean that's what

0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 1>I think. Yeah, that's my understanding as well. Yeah, you

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:18.360
<v Speaker 1>can learn a lot by not only finding the fossil,

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:23.919
<v Speaker 1>but finding what was with the fossil in that same strata. Ah.

0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:26.399
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you like, hey, this is a t

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:30.480
<v Speaker 1>rex bone, and there's also a bit of pine tree,

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:33.119
<v Speaker 1>so we know pine trees were around, and they may

0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>have eaten pine trees. Well not t rex because they

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:39.400
<v Speaker 1>were carnivores, right, um, yeah, they were herbivore. Let's say,

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Abronosaurus sure. Um. And ultimately

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 1>all of these fossils come together, plant and well everything

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 1>that we can get our hands on to form what

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 1>is called the fossil record, right, and this is basically

0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 1>the record of life on Earth. Uh. It's also used

0:28:56.920 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 1>to support evolution big time. And uh, it's here that

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 1>paleontology gets most contentious, right, yeah, sure, because there's um

0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:12.400
<v Speaker 1>the the idea that beings evolve if you go far

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 1>enough back from a single common ancestor, right, And so

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:20.479
<v Speaker 1>if we can put together a complete fossil record, we

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 1>would be able to see how everything alive today evolved

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 1>from this common ancestor or common ancestors. Right. Yeah. The

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 1>problem is fossil records incomplete, and one of the really

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 1>key parts that it's often missing are called transitional fossils. Right,

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 1>My favorite kind of fossil, Josh, is a transitional fossil.

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 1>And one example Tracy used was the baleen whale. Uh. There,

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 1>there's a picture of one actually in the article twenty

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 1>five million year old fossil of a baleen whale with

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<v Speaker 1>sharp teeth. Um, today's bailing whales don't have sharp teeth,

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 1>but we know that once before this had sharp teeth

0:29:56.720 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 1>and legs. So this is a transitional fossil that shows, well,

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:02.719
<v Speaker 1>they used to have legs and sharp teeth, then they

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 1>just had sharp teeth, and now they don't have legs

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 1>or sharp teeth. They're defenseless, which is why they're bailing whales,

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:13.239
<v Speaker 1>right and not sharks or Megalodon's right. Um, and so

0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 1>a transitional fossil is one that that pops up between

0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:20.400
<v Speaker 1>old and new, and it makes sense. Our understanding of

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 1>evolution is that it takes a little while, and UM,

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:27.640
<v Speaker 1>something like teeth aren't just gonna go away in one generation.

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna take more and more and more, and then UM,

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:32.440
<v Speaker 1>we should be able to find them along the way

0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 1>where maybe the teeth gets smaller. There's fewer and fewer

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>UM baling whale teeth in the average baling whale mouth,

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 1>and you're putting together the puzzle exactly. Um. Again, the

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 1>fossil records a little incomplete, and there aren't as many

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 1>transitional fossils as I think people would like to UM

0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:54.720
<v Speaker 1>have tied all together, right, UM, and then some of

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 1>the uh, some of the explanations are probably the most

0:30:57.360 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 1>famous explanation for this is that UM evolution isn't gradual.

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 1>I think it's Stephen J. Gould came up with the

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 1>idea of punctuated equilibrium, and that is basically that UM

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 1>evolution takes place suddenly in these huge quick fits and starts,

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 1>which would explain why there's not like teeth don't go

0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:21.600
<v Speaker 1>away in a generation, but they go away a lot

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 1>faster than we used to suspect. And that's why these

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 1>um fossils um accompanied with the idea that not every

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 1>animal that's ever died has become fossilized, explained why there's

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 1>huge gaps in the fossil record, which will inevitably always

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:41.120
<v Speaker 1>be incomplete. Is that a hypothesis at this point? I

0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:45.240
<v Speaker 1>guess it is not a theory yet I don't. I

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 1>don't think so. I think it is a hypothesis. I

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 1>got one more thing, Okay, I'd like to finish with

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 1>my favorite kind of fossil, and that is a living fossil.

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 1>And that, Josh, is when you've got a plant or

0:31:57.640 --> 0:32:02.239
<v Speaker 1>animal that looks so much like ancient fossils that they

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:07.080
<v Speaker 1>consider a living fossil. Allah, the horseshoe crab, right, apparently

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:10.240
<v Speaker 1>the horseshoe crab has not changed. Didn't need too, It's perfect.

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Look at it, it's gorgeous. What else? Oh, genk baloba plants?

0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 1>And then a word that I don't know of, the

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:21.959
<v Speaker 1>ceila cant. What is that? Uh? It's this horrid looking

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:25.840
<v Speaker 1>fish that they remember that VW commercial where he's like,

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 1>it's like the Cela camp and the guys like what

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 1>they're looking in the trunk and he's like a full

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 1>size spare tire and he's like, it's like a Cela.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't They used to think it was extinct. There was

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:37.080
<v Speaker 1>a fish, and then they found it, like in the

0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirties again, but it's this dinosaur looking fish. Oh,

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 1>I think I've seen him that they thought was extinct

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<v Speaker 1>for millions of years and they called him I think

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 1>in South America, off the coast of South America, and

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 1>they're still around living Saul and the Horseshoe Crab and

0:32:52.680 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Stephen j. Could in the gek Baloba. Well, it's it

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:58.479
<v Speaker 1>for fossils, right, That's all I have. I think we've

0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 1>got the point across. That's an overview. A fossil is

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<v Speaker 1>a rock. Just remember that, Okay if you want to

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 1>learn more about fossils um Seriously, this is one of

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:10.120
<v Speaker 1>the better articles on the site. Tracy did a great

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<v Speaker 1>job with it. Type fossils into the search bar a

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<v Speaker 1>handy search bar, and how stuff works dot com, which

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<v Speaker 1>means it's time for listener mail. Josh. We made a

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<v Speaker 1>young girl cry. That's what I'm gonna call this one. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably happened more than once. Hi, guys and Jerry.

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 1>My name is Ali. I'm from Indiana. I was in

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<v Speaker 1>the I S s M, a band contest, playing a

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<v Speaker 1>difficult marimba solo today. I was pretty nervous, but being

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 1>first chair and the only female percussionist in my school

0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 1>really brought up my confidence. I went in, I choked

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:48.920
<v Speaker 1>and I stumbled through my piece. You get a gold,

0:33:48.960 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 1>silver bronze or a participation medal. Got the bronze, which

0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:57.240
<v Speaker 1>is equivalent to a score of an F. I was

0:33:57.280 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 1>really upset. Wait, what is participating that sub f? I

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't even know they made metals. I thought was is

0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 1>the ribbon? It's probably a ribbon. I was really upset.

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:08.400
<v Speaker 1>I got home. I was trying to cheer myself up

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:11.320
<v Speaker 1>by listening to your podcast on What's the Deal with Sinkholes.

0:34:11.840 --> 0:34:13.880
<v Speaker 1>I really love the show and I've listened almost everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the beginning, you guys talked about how much

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:19.960
<v Speaker 1>the bronze medals suck. Remember that. Oh yeah, so we

0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:22.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't liftro spirits very much, Josh and Chuck. I just

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 1>want to let you know that the two of you

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:26.799
<v Speaker 1>made me cry then from Ali and I has since

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:29.720
<v Speaker 1>written Alie back and apologized, and she said that she's

0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 1>feeling much better now and uh, it wasn't our fault.

0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:35.359
<v Speaker 1>And I told her that I've choked under pressure many

0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 1>times in my life and it happens, and it will

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 1>happen again, and it doesn't mean you don't have the

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:46.839
<v Speaker 1>goods every single time, but you know you pick yourself up.

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:48.839
<v Speaker 1>It sounds like you gave her some good advice choke.

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I think so. She seemed receptive to it. It's like

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 1>a sweet girl. I think that's an excellent lead in.

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0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:04.640
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0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:08.440
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