1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: I've been lucky. I've done not just in Gulf. I've 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: been a seven Olympic Games and soccer World Cups and 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: all sorts of stuff in my career, all the Ryder Cups, 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: all the Open Championships, all the Masters that I was 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: lucky enough to attend, great memories. I've been the luckiest 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: guy in the world. But I'll tell you what. Up there, 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: we're watching Tiger's first winner Augusta and my fellow Scott 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: Polori winning the Open at Canoosi and all the others. 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: The Amateur Championship Final twenty one is absolutely up there 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: as all a date. Never to forget. Put another log 11 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: on the fire are here? Give the time? Welcome to 12 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: the fire pit with Matt Janella. Wow again. All of this, 13 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: all of these parts that we put together, goes back 14 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: to a features meeting the week of the U S Open. 15 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: Colt Nedler chimes in with did you guys hear what 16 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 1: happened at the British Amateur Championship wild? A few days later? 17 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: Colt had a day and time in which we'd get 18 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: to zoom with Laird Shepherd from St. Andrew's. Shepherd gave 19 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 1: us two and a half hours and we were down 20 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,639 Speaker 1: the rabbit hole of one of the most compelling stories 21 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: I've ever tried to tell. Nine interviews included both competitors, 22 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: their dad's a girlfriend, We heard from two announcers, and 23 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: Tom Bailey, who, over a chance encounter in December, set 24 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: Shepherd on a path to a life altering adventure. If 25 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: you're here, I can assume you've listened to all three 26 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: parts of this podcast. Part one is the backstory to 27 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: Laird Shepherd's life engulf which included years of back pain 28 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: and some knee surgeries. Chloe Goadby, Laird's girlfriend of three years, 29 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: has been there through the tough times. There's some long 30 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: winters over in Scotland here, so you know, dark nights, 31 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: cold winters, and I think you know, spending days on 32 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: and just we lived together one winter at university and 33 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: just spending days in the flat where he can't go 34 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: and play golf because of because of his knee. I 35 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: think was probably some of the toughest times for him. 36 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: In Part two, Shepherd gets in the Amateur Championship at 37 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: Nairn as thirtieth alternate. We take you through the stroke 38 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: play and the five matches that get Shepherd into the finals. 39 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I asked the best probably golf shot I've 40 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: ever hit under that that's of pressure. That was pretty cool, 41 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: and I was sort of walking after it and maccady 42 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: was having the gird at me because he's like, you 43 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: need to calm down, so you need to come back 44 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: to the bag and take a cup of water. And 45 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: he didn't let me take my part out until we 46 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: got to the green. And in part three, it's the 47 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: last eighteen holes of the final, Shepherd starts around seven 48 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: down to Montes Scousel, a friend and worthy competitor who 49 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: was playing an extended stretch of the best golf of 50 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: his life. That's exactly right, like all those hours you 51 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: put in and Um, as you know, golf is a 52 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: strange game. You can put in all the hours in 53 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: the world and you can shoot eight and sometimes you 54 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: don't play for a week and you shoot sixty five. 55 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: It's a strange game. But you just hope that all 56 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: the work you put in willcome good at some point. 57 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: And for me, that's what that week was about. UM 58 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: haven't been too many torments in the past where I 59 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: really gone through the whole week feeling like I had 60 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: basically my a game or or somewhere near my a game. 61 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: But but the Amateur was one of those weeks and 62 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: I think like that's given me such confidence. But I 63 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: can do that over such a long spell of golf 64 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: and you know, on the fitest side of things as well, 65 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: it's thirty six hours a day, um, and that sort 66 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: of under that mental pressure as well. UM, A lot 67 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: of elements that got in got into being able to 68 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: do something like that, you know, during that week. And 69 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: before we get to what we consider Part four, which 70 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: will include further reflections on back pain, bad yardge, clutch putts, 71 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: the incredible comeback and an inspiring display of sportsmanship, we 72 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: just need to thank our friends at link soul for 73 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: their support. As you probably know by now, it's all 74 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: I wear on and off the course. If John Ashworth 75 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: makes it, I'm in it. And if you want to 76 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: wear some of it as well, go to link soul 77 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: dot com, use promo code fire Pit and enjoy a 78 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: discount on your next purchase. In this podcast, I'll be 79 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: circling back with the cast of characters as they all 80 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: reflect on what transpired at the Amateur Championship at Nairn 81 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: Golf Club. We start with Stewart Shepherd, Laird's father who 82 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: made the trip up and walked all thirty eight holes 83 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: to watch his son become the Amateur champion and one 84 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: of the biggest things. Also winning the Amateur's huge. But 85 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: the fact you meant to play nine competitive rounds of 86 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: golf and still be okay um and he's still touchwood 87 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: okay uh was you know, almost as much as winning 88 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: the thing. So we're hopeful, But there were some very 89 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: dark days. To be fair, just don't think he had 90 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: the structure to play in the game. Again, I keep 91 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: going back to the fact that if Laird Shepherd doesn't 92 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: go home to his grandfather's funeral in December, if he 93 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: doesn't bump into his buddy Tom Bailey, what becomes of 94 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: Laird Shepherd the golfer. Here's Tom Bailey. I think, let's 95 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: be honest, like that's unbelievable coming back from night down. 96 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: But I think the biggest comeback is him him being 97 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: able to play, yes, get and get into the final. 98 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: But I think that would we would have worked out 99 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: about eleven rounds of both. I think he played that week, 100 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: improving the practice and all the holes he played, and 101 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: to play all of that without paying. Unbelievable to win 102 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: mid Virus, to hit your Masters and Open in the US. 103 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: I've been even bigger moments one more time from Shepherd's father, 104 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 1: who has seen his son play a lot of great golf, 105 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: but nothing quite like the home stretch on Saturday in Scotland. 106 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: There was like a man possessed for the last nine 107 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: nine holes. I mean he holds everything. They had. Look 108 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: on his face, he never thought he was gonna miss 109 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: when he needed a shot. A chip he hit at 110 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: the half four year to win the fifteenth that was 111 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 1: down slope up to the green. Um just incredibly good shot. 112 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: I thought, wow, I mean he's he's definitely on it. 113 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: And the shot into seventeen three or four ft whatever 114 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: it was, that that was phenomenal. He just was on rails, 115 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: so he just yeah, it was just incredible to see. 116 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: Andrew Davidson is Laird's friend from University of Sterling who 117 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: lost in the first round of match play and then 118 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: stayed to caddy for Shephard. I asked Davidson what he 119 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: takes away from such a special week and ochre golf. 120 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: He's achieved quite a lot, but he never really wanted 121 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: anything and he's seen a few like me and another 122 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: friend of ours pretty close to them when something like 123 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: a few years ago, and that probably gave hun belief 124 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: as well that it was possible. But winning the Amateur 125 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: Championship compared to winning any of these other tournaments, which 126 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 1: realistically aren't much different and in strength, but the winning 127 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: the Amateur Championships so much bigger than winning anything else. 128 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: And I suppose what I take from it's just that 129 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: you just got to keep believing in and literally just 130 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:36,679 Speaker 1: just keep going because you never know what can happen, 131 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: and walks around the corner. Gold is crazy game you 132 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: can't win often take golf, but you just gotta keep 133 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: believing that as possible and and just keep trying. Like 134 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: that's literally what me and Lard kept saying is just 135 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: keep giving it your own and if you as long 136 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: as you do that, then what does that matter what 137 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: happens at the end, Just like you might as well, 138 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: you just gotta keep trying to trying to try, and 139 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: and it's nice was it's just belief. This main thing 140 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: I te tape from it. I think did you hear 141 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: about Andrew giving Laird the wrong yardage on the first playoff? 142 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: Hold purposely because he thought he didn't want Laird to 143 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: gas it over the green. I didn't heard that one. Well, 144 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: if that's so, he's definitely earned his non fee. I 145 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: asked Chloe Goby, Laird's girlfriend in recent winner of the 146 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: Women's Scottish Amateur, about Andrew purposely giving Laird bad yardage 147 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: on the first playoff hole. Andrew told me this, I 148 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: can't remember whether it was on our way back to 149 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: the clubhouse after lairded one or whether Yeah, I can't 150 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: remember when it was, but it was definitely before I 151 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: lared kW about it, and and he says today, yeah, 152 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: I told him that it was only seven to one 153 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: when it was actually sev And I'm like what, And 154 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: he said, well, I just knew he'd been a adrenaline 155 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: going and you just can't go along with that pen. 156 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: And I thought, yeah, that's a smart, smart Caddy move, 157 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: but potentially I could get you in trouble that one. 158 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's hilarious. I couldn't believe you did that. 159 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: And I just found it so funny. And when did 160 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: you tell him? You told him to run after I 161 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: told him. I would never have told him ever if 162 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: he if he had lost. He would never have known. 163 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: But I could have taken that to your grave. Oh yeah, 164 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: I would have felt so bad. But at the time 165 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: it was definitely the right thing to do, because you're 166 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: just piling the pressure another guy because you know that 167 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: he lays probably not going to make boggy from there. 168 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: So it's crazy. You couldn't think of a better man 169 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: to have on your bag, um, and some of like that, 170 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: because he's so down to earth. He's a fantastic lad 171 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: and yeah he's Um. He did a great job. And 172 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: I mean he did a great job a week because 173 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: obviously he lost in the sixt Us round and then 174 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: took over the bag and every every time I spoke 175 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: to lead and it's still there, isn't me. He's going 176 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: to be there on Saturday, isn't me. You won't be 177 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: doing this on your own. So yeah, now he's brilliant. 178 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: Unfortunately I can't carry it the open I'm getting married 179 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: the day after got it, so he so I can't 180 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: carry it though, devastated because in the way COVID is 181 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: up here, we can't. I can't rest going down and 182 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 1: getting tracked and traced or whatever. Ka, So I've had 183 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: to pass the boots over to someone else for that, 184 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: but I'll be back in the game at the Masters. Really, 185 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: is that what's gonna happen? Yeah, I told him that 186 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: I was in the small print the night before, but 187 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: the night before the finals, like you went back, will 188 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: be cardying there. It's However, Laird Shepherd's caddy at the 189 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: Open Championship is James Wilson, another college teammate from the 190 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: University of Sterling. The plan is on Sunday, assuming Shepherd 191 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: makes the cut, Laird Chloe and James Wilson, we'll all 192 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: pile in a car and race off to Andrew's wedding. 193 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: As for Mr Shepherd, he's still processing the benefits of 194 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: Laird winning the Amateur Championship. It's a gift that keeps 195 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: giving giving. And I've always wanted to go to Augusta. 196 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: I just just I mean, we were there a few 197 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: years ago at a King because he went to look 198 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: at a couple of universities again the States, and we 199 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 1: went to a King was only half a half an 200 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: hour from Augusta, and I thought just looked the gates 201 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: that we didn't in the end thought was a bit 202 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: pointless and frustrating. But you know, I've always I'd love 203 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: to just go and see it. I'd love to have 204 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: gone to go to the Masters. But the thought of 205 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: going to the Masters and watching your son play God 206 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: winning it happens is just if that's that's probably the 207 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: most the most thing to come to terms. But I mean, 208 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: next week playing the Open is pretty special because Saint 209 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: George's is the nearest open venue to where we live, 210 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: and we both played there quite a lot. But yeah, 211 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: that the thought of going to the Masters is just extraordinary. 212 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: If you've listened to all three parts of this podcast, 213 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: I'm guessing you can't help but root for money scoutle 214 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: to continue doing great things in life. Hang off. I mean, 215 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: you know obviously, um, you know, I really wanted my 216 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: name on that trophy, and um, it's yeah, it's hard. 217 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: It's harder the last the last couple of weeks, certainly 218 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: the two days after it was really really tough. You know, um, 219 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: quite a few tears and it's just a bit of 220 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: a bit of gentle sobbing. But but actually I woke 221 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: up on the Tuesday morning and I thought, hey, if 222 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: someone had offered me second place on the Monday morning, 223 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: is I was stepping on that first team heading into 224 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: an absolute hurricane, I probably would have taken it. And 225 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: and certainly for for my career going forward, you know, 226 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: this will hopefully open a few doors for me, but 227 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: also just the confidence it's given me that I can, um, 228 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: I can really push forward in is this. This's been 229 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: my career and it's something I've always sort of battled 230 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: with myself. You know, are you good enough? Um? Do 231 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: you want it hard enough? And and this is this 232 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: is a firm all of those sort of doubts to 233 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: me that yeah I do. Um, and this is gonna 234 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: this is gonna make me and not break me. Um. 235 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: And like you said, you know, the runners up list 236 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: of guys who have gone on has been pretty impressive. 237 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: So if I can you know, following their footsteps in 238 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: any any sense, then I'll hopefully have a great career. 239 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: So um, overall, I mean, it was such a brilliant 240 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: week and you know, I'm delighted for Lead. It couldn't 241 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: have happened to a better guy, really couldn't. And all 242 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: the opportunities coming his way. UM, Yeah, I just hope 243 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: he brings me something back from AUGUSTA, maybe maybe like 244 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: a flag or something. I don't know. I saw that 245 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: with him. I'm sure you will. They see, apples don't 246 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: fall very far from the tree. Well, when money Scousle 247 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: told me his father is his favorite person to play 248 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: golf with, I lost it. I guess that's because I'm 249 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: a fairly new dad and that's every golfing father's dream. 250 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: Are you more proud of how he played in terms 251 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: of his golf or are you more proud and how 252 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: he conducted himself as a sportsman and a class act 253 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: when it was all said and done. Um, I think 254 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: probably the latter. I think probably because that that was 255 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: the biggest test of all. I think he golf is 256 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: something that he'll he'll go back and he'll he'll play 257 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: lots more golf and he'll hopefully get better and better. 258 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: But I think on on the biggest day of his 259 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: golfing life, I think it was he showed a lot 260 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: of He made a lot of friends that day in 261 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: terms of everyone who was there watched it. Um, I 262 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: think amongst it was difficult amongst all all the friends 263 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: back home we were watching it. U You know, so 264 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: several have written to us, and indeed, you know we've 265 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: had He's had some lovely notes from very senior people 266 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: within the R and A have written to to say 267 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: how impressed they were the way he handled himself, both 268 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: on and offer and off the course. And I'm not 269 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: sure he probably won't have told you because we just 270 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: received an email today from men who have asked him 271 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: to become an honorary member, which is which is a 272 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: very very special thing to have happened. Um, And so 273 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: I think I think of anything, I think, I can't 274 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: help but think that there's nothing you could be more 275 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: proud about than have something as fabulous as that. Needless 276 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: to say, being impressed by young Scoutle's sportsmanship was unanimous. 277 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: For a Monted be able to in the moment put 278 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: everything else aside and act like that, I mean that 279 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: just shows so much more about his character than anython 280 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: will And I mean it couldn't have been better handled 281 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: in that situation. Do you think you can't even imagine 282 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: how you deal with that and you know the raw motion, 283 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: how do you, you know, put that aside and actually 284 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: be a sportsman and show respectful loud. I mean it 285 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: was pretty incredible. And you know, Monty is a great guy, 286 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: and you know he's come through a lot as well, 287 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: and he's really progressed in the last few years. Having 288 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: seen him play years ago, and you know, I think 289 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: obviously you know what it would have meant to him 290 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: as well. It would have been life changing for either 291 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, I think for him to be that 292 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: way was really special too, Loud and I think it 293 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: meant a lot to him as well. So thanks again 294 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: to George Harper Jr. Dog Danally and the entire broadcast 295 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: team who called the live stream for the RNA. And 296 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: wasn't the reaction of the two guys, Matt absolutely wonderful 297 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: As you said that that they know each other, the buddies, 298 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: the room together, all of that, but still there is 299 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: one who feels like the bottom has dropped out of 300 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: his world. The other gay just can't believe he have 301 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: won the British Sanita Championship. But there was a genuinely 302 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: warm hug between them, wasn't there, And that they all 303 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: stayed buddies. Of course they will um, but I just 304 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: thought of it summed up this this wonderful game, that 305 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: there is always that that empathy between the contestants, isn't there. 306 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: I asked both dads to talk about the other son. 307 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: This is Stewart Shepherd on Monty Scousel. I think the 308 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: pressure was having an effect, but you're right he didn't 309 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: give it away. I mean the parts the hold at 310 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: sixteen and seventeen to make leadhole, his parts at sixteen 311 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: and seventeen were just heroic in the circumstances. He definitely 312 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: didn't give it away. I mean, you know, I don't 313 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: know what his score was, three or four over the afternoon, 314 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 1: so you know it's not like he shot eighty something. Um. 315 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you've seen people in that sort of position 316 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: actually melt I'm not going to name names, but you 317 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: know there's been people and that's the tuation who just 318 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: cannot being able to cope with a pressure. But no, Monty, 319 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: I don't think it was Monty. I'm sure it had 320 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: had a little bit of an effect, but it wasn't 321 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: a meltdown by anything. Here was Jeremy Scousel on Laird Shepherd. 322 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: It was it was tough because he had to hold 323 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: a couple of good eight ten foot cuts the hold, 324 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: which had he missed one of them would have would 325 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: have ended up in a him losing. So it was 326 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: it was tremendous and I dropped the note afterwards and 327 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: said that was you know, that was really courageous and fantastic, 328 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: fantastic comeback, and it was I mean he was really 329 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: he was playing. They're probably both playing good golf, but 330 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: Laird was playing exceptional golf under that sort of pressure, 331 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: because there must have been a stage, and I know 332 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: he went out after lunch thinking, well, I've got no 333 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: need to lose here. Um, I just wanted to make 334 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: sure that I'm not embarrassed. But there would have come 335 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: a stage in his own mind, and I'm sure he's 336 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: explained that to you. Probably that he would have thought, 337 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: actually I remember the chance here, um, and in the 338 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: once he hit that frame frame mind to continue playing. 339 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: The quality of golf golf that he did was was 340 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: pretty exceptional. They were both very impressive. Yeah, and yeah, 341 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: the sportsmanship, the speed they played, um great, great that 342 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: I thought. And obviously they produced a bit of excitement 343 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: as well. So a good stress, stressful ift you closely involved, 344 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: but happy, happy ending. And of course some reflections from 345 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: the reigning amateur champion Laird Shepherd. Have you watched it all, um? 346 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: I watched almost all that. I actually haven't watched the 347 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: last the last six or seven holes. But I watched 348 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: the first the first eight team, and that wasn't great 349 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: watching still still thinking how fine, but winning an um, Yeah, 350 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: that would be nice to be able to going and 351 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: look back and anytime you're struggling with the game or 352 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: feeling a bit low, you can go back and and 353 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: see yourself performing under the greatest pressure. And I think 354 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: that's what sports all about in the end, as those 355 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: pressure moments, they pressure builds, builds diamonds. It molds, molds 356 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: you into who you are. And yeah, just just thankful 357 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: that I end up going going my way that day's lard. 358 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,719 Speaker 1: If you had reconnected with money since the amateur, I 359 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 1: said to him, you know, I'm looking forward to hopefully 360 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: playing with you and some some England teams if if 361 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: we both get picked, which hopefully we do, and you know, 362 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: I'd love to play four sums with you. And yeah, 363 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: just I mean, I'm a person who doesn't I don't 364 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: have a big, sort of wide group of friends or 365 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: a white of social social group. I'm relatively introverted and 366 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: I find a lot of people annoying. I have no 367 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: problems to him that, especially in golf, and there's there's 368 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I don't find a lot of 369 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: people I can spend a lot of time with them 370 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: and not get annoyed by them. But Monty is certainly 371 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: one of the good guys. For me, that's more important 372 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: than anything. So we had a phone call, um must 373 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: have been last week at some point end of last week, 374 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: and just just sharing our stories on how weeks have been. 375 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: And I think the thing we both said to each 376 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: other's dude, you as knackid as I am. I mean, 377 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: I don't think either of us got out of bed 378 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: for four or five days. We were just shattered the 379 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: emotional like how draining it was emotionally and obviously physically 380 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: on our bodies. So yeah, it was really nice to 381 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: chat to him, and you know, he was doing well 382 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: and he's sort of obviously getting prepped now for the 383 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: open and and those opportunities coming his way. So yeah, 384 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: it was really nice to chat. And actually too, we 385 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: kind of said to each other, you know, regardless of 386 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: the result, to share that day together, Um, it's certainly 387 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: something that will be in mine and and his memory 388 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: bank for the rest of our lives. And actually the 389 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: fact both our families were there as well was super 390 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: special and um, it's not something that actually many people 391 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: get to experience something of that magnitude, and we were 392 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: just very grateful to have shared it together and certainly 393 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: it will it will bond us for life. I guess 394 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: it's as good friends. Yes, it's pretty crazy, man, I've 395 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: said obviously to my dad. Actually the evening after one 396 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: I said, if I never do anything else in golf, 397 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: that was that will do. That's pretty cool, isn't it. 398 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: And I say that probably less of that mindset now, 399 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: because you know, it's always I'm I am who I am, 400 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: and it's the next challenge and looking forward to the 401 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: next thing. But you have got also just think, you know, 402 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: that was pretty special and having you know the amount 403 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: of people that have come up to me the last 404 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: two weeks and just said well done, because if you 405 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: caught it on live stream, and that's been pretty weird 406 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: as well. You know, you feel like a celebrity almost. 407 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: But I don't really know how to how to sort 408 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: of go about dealing with that because I'm certainly not 409 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not bothered about anything else that comes 410 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: with being good at golf apart from being good at golf. Um, 411 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: But it's it's it's fun. You know, you've got doing 412 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: stuff like this is all new as well, and being 413 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: able to tell a little bit of my story is 414 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: it's been fun. You know, if if just one person 415 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: finds it interesting, then that's great for me. So but 416 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: it's all been really cool, different experiences, learning different skills, 417 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: and if if my future is not playing professional golf, 418 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: then winning this tournament has probably taught me a lot 419 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: of stuff that will helped me away from from that 420 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: environment as well. So to see him lifted amateur trove 421 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: was was surreal. As the word you used earlier, you know, 422 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: it didn't see it coming. I mean, I was hopeful 423 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: he would progress on the last two tournaments and I 424 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: felt it really had the talent if his body would 425 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: allow him to express it as it were, um, but 426 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: to go and win it and in the circumstances, yeah, 427 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: it was absolutely surreal and it's been It's obviously it's 428 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: changed his life in the last few weeks. You know 429 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: that the program that you know, we sort of had 430 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: set out for the year has gone through kind of 431 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: out the windows. It were as as somebody said, you know, 432 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: once you win the amateur you stop. We stopped playing 433 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: professional events rather than amateur events, So yeah, it's changed 434 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: changed out. But no, it's extremely extremely proud of him. 435 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: I don't know how to put it. Like he kind 436 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: of said something along the lines of, you know, I 437 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: think if he never achieves anything else, he no one 438 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 1: can take that away from him. And that's something that 439 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: he'll hold voice obviously for a very long time. And 440 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: obviously he hopes to do more in the game and 441 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: hopefully it will taken to new levels and with all 442 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: these opportunities. But you know, too, I think it's he 443 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: kind of thinks like it was me that, Like he 444 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: has to think like it was like Shepherd that did that, 445 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: Like that was me. Um. I think he made me 446 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: feels like it was a different person, but it was 447 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: it was all him. So yeah, to be a part 448 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: of be a part of that experience was just amazing 449 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: and hopefully be a part of all the experiences that 450 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: that will come with it for him. And you know, 451 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: as we both looked to term professional in the coming years, 452 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure he'll gain experience and in those 453 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: majors that will put him in great stead. My next 454 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 1: event is the Open Championship, which sounds pretty crazy, and 455 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: but it's a golf course I know very well, and 456 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: I know that I have a big advantage and a 457 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: lot of guys come out to play because now to 458 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: golf in the UK, you play a lot of links 459 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: golf and that's the one week year a lot of 460 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: those guys will be playing links golf. And so there's 461 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: no reason that I can't have a have a decent showing. 462 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not going to say achieve any anything 463 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 1: in particular, but just compete. There's no reason why I 464 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: can't compete with those guys. So I don't want to 465 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: go in with this mindset of of simply being happy 466 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: to be there, because I'm I'm very competitive and I 467 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: will make a pact to enjoy it wherever happens. But 468 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: at the same time, it's a gold performent and and 469 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: you want to win and you know, want to play well, 470 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: and that's what I'll be trying to do is just 471 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: to play my best. So that's helped me sort of 472 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: bring me back down to earth, I think, because you know, 473 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 1: it's not like I'm just continuing to play the same events. 474 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: It's I'm now playing the best events in the world. 475 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: So I've got keep getting better golf for Awise isn't 476 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: gonna get left fine. So Laird Shepherd is one of 477 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: eight amateurs in the Open and is off on Thursday 478 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 1: morning at two am Eastern with Danny Willett and Dean Burmester. 479 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: Obviously it's going to it's kind of massively help when 480 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: the time comes at a term pro and I think 481 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: that will probably be, you know after at some point 482 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: at the end of next year, after the US Open, 483 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: and then you know, I'd love to go over and 484 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: play the U s Antar this year. It doesn't look 485 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: like it's going to happen because of travel restrictions, but 486 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: unfortunately when in the British gives you a five year 487 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: exemption into the U s Amatos. So I think that 488 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 1: would probably probably be my last amateur event. I think 489 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: because I think going to play in the U s 490 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: Amateur it's the biggest amateur event in the world with 491 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: the Amateur Championship, but having that as a double would 492 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: be pretty special in it. And I can't help but thinking, 493 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: I just wonder if there's something to this. I don't know, 494 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: but your your grandfather's passing brought you back home in 495 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: which you then meet Tom, Like, have you ever processed 496 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: that at all? Um? Yeah, you know, I honestly, Um, 497 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: I thought about him when I was sort of given 498 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: um my sort of winners speech at the end, and 499 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: I didn't I couldn't really let myself think about it 500 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 1: for too long because I had to continue speaking and 501 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: making sense. So I would have loved him just to 502 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: see see me play, and he didn't really get seen 503 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 1: me play a lot, and I loved him to hear 504 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: hear about the news. But I know that he's probably 505 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: was watching that day. And you know, he's always been 506 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: such a special man in my life. And to make 507 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: people proud is probably the best thing about succeeding its 508 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: stuff and and sort of paying them back for help 509 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: way given given me. And maybe maybe it was it 510 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: was it was sort of fate that that's how things work. 511 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: So that was why I was down at the time 512 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: to see Tom. You know, you just you just never 513 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: know how this world works. And they even known my 514 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: girlfriend she won the Scottish im to two weeks before. Um, 515 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: And maybe if you hadn't done that, maybe I wouldn't 516 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: have believed that I could win. But you know, things, 517 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: I think things do happen for a reason. My injuries. 518 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: I think that's mentally toughened me up a lot and 519 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: probably helped me through the last final. You know, not 520 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: get too down on myself. And you know, all all 521 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: of these things come together to create a perfect moment. 522 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: So you know, just dis glad that that was. That 523 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: was it? All right, that's it for now anyway, Like 524 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: I said, here at the Firepit Collective, we'll be tracking 525 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: the careers of Laird Shepherd and Monty Scoutle, not to 526 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: mention Chloe Goodby and Andrew Davidson. Here's to getting more 527 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: card in hand of avoiding the semi, working on being 528 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: brand new and winning four on the trot if and 529 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: win need be. Thanks again to all the guests who 530 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: made this four partner possible and to Colton Nedler for 531 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: the tireless and thoughtful technical support. We also appreciate the 532 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: partnership with par Points, the app that allows you to 533 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: change the way you score this game played from a 534 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: hundred yards, a part is worth a hundred points, Bertie 535 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: double it. Download the up now and go make par 536 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: And lastly, here's the full version of the story the 537 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: anthem for this podcast, written and recorded by Joe Horowitz 538 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: and available wherever you get your music. It was produced 539 00:30:39,280 --> 00:31:03,719 Speaker 1: by Jack Here King Fire. Nobody hears getting tired, Settle 540 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: down and settle in the story hears about to begin, 541 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: the circles starting to take its shape, seats the field, 542 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: and the tired sun plans and his skill, and everybody's 543 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: got some glory, just wait unto unfold. Everybody's got some story, 544 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: just wait unto be told. The place for that is here. 545 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: All those smiles and all those tears, let them go. 546 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: Put another log on the figh. Nobody hears getting tired, 547 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: Settle down and settle in. The story hears about to begin, 548 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: And tales were told of war and gold. Lover is 549 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: lost in a lifetime's dreams ours soul. Maybe you should 550 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:41,959 Speaker 1: stop in listen at the wisdom in the air. Maybe 551 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: you should pour your heart out. We angle handy way. 552 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: I'd your mercy in the sound as the smoke gets 553 00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: pushed around and your soul. Put another log on the fire. 554 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: Nobody hears getting tired, Settle down and settle the story 555 00:33:53,720 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: hears about to begin. The story he hears about to begin. 556 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: The story Here's about to begin.