1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal. Come that for me. I'm 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well, 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: for Dake Edith state is that? Whoo whoom? And Dan 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: and Tye welcome back to the solid verbal Boys and girls. 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: My name is ty Hildenbrand, joining me the far side 7 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: a planet Earth. Dan Rubinstein, sir, how are you? I'm 8 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: ready for previews? Oh freaking yeah. 9 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: So we're into August. It is preview time, Ty, How 10 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: are we handling said previews? In the past, We've done 11 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: conference previews. We have done you know s and p 12 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: top forty countdown previews. We did previews as it relates 13 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: to which team got you. I mean, this was your idea, 14 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: I got you most aroused. I remember that was a 15 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: strange year, but you know, we got through it and 16 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: I think we're the better for it. 17 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: It was what are we weird? G chat? Yeah? Yes, 18 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: what are we doing this yere? While I'm still waiting 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: for the checks to clear? And depending on who donated 20 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: the most money, that will be who we spend most 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: of our time covering. 22 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: I like that and who we like the most. Where 23 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 2: you're biased towards the most. 24 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the way this thing works here in the media. 25 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: So here here's the deal. As you mentioned, we we've 26 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: done a bunch of different cuts on season previews last 27 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: two years. I believe we've done the top forty or 28 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: top whatever according to the S and P Plus. The 29 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: S and P plus is still going to have a 30 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: pretty big role in how we preview teams building up 31 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: to the twenty seventeen season. We're going to try and 32 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: have a conference conversation here each and every week now 33 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: in the build up to the season. Tonight, we're going 34 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: to do Big twelve. We're going to start there. But 35 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: what we didn't want to do is leave some teams 36 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: like Iowa State out because Iowa State to me as 37 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: a team that I'm really excited about that I want 38 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: to talk about that. I know we have fans who 39 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: listen to the show want to get a little bit 40 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: igh with State. Matt Campbell discussion out there for some 41 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: people who might be interested in really just how they 42 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: fit into the whole Big twelve equations. So a conference 43 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: conversation is how we are going to approach each of 44 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: the Power five conferences. And then we've also got some 45 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: important nuggets about the group of five conferences as well. Correct. 46 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: I think tonight we're gonna do the American Conference or 47 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 2: the Act. 48 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: The Power six. 49 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: Maybe according to the American Conference, the sixth team are 50 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: the sixth conference. Excuse me, Yes, So we're gonna do 51 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: some nuggets about the American after we talk about the 52 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: Big Twelve. We're going to touch on all of the 53 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: teams in some fashion or form. 54 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: But first time, I have breaking news. Oh, breaking news. 55 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, double breaking news. 56 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: Here we go. Who whoa? Whoa? 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I already gave away the 182 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: game in saying that we're gonna talk about the Big Twelve. 183 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: Yeah here, But what are your thoughts in the Big Twelve? 184 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: How are you feeling about this conference? Dan? I feel 185 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: pretty good. I was trying to come up with something 186 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: clever or flashy, or a way to brand the Big 187 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: Twelve as a whole, and all I could come ahle, 188 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: I came up with two things. One I probably should 189 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: have like heavy metal under me, but incremental improvement. Incremental 190 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: improvement or El Pasco. Yeah, Well here's my thing. Yeah, 191 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: every team in the Big Twelve has a big, bold, 192 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: seventy two point aerial question mark, and the only differentiator 193 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: for Oklahoma is that their question mark is only big 194 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: and bold, but thirty six points, yes, not quite as big. 195 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: They to me represent the clear top tier in the 196 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: Big Twelve this season. Beyond that, though, I think it's 197 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: really interesting. Incremental Improvement's a good way to phrase it. 198 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: But as a whole, most of the teams, if not 199 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: all of the teams in the conference, save for maybe 200 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: West Virginia, which we'll talk about here momentarily, save for 201 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: maybe Baylor, who knows where they're going, Save for maybe 202 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: Texas Tech. Because it's always the same preview each and 203 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: every year under Cliff Kingsbury. Most teams across the board, 204 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: I think are going to get better enough production, coming 205 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: back enough improvements made towards the latter half of last season, 206 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: we should see a better conference as a whole in 207 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: the Big Twelve this year. 208 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 2: The clear worst Power five or Power six, all things considered, 209 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: conference that there was in twenty sixteen. I believe, the 210 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: only Power five conference with fewer than fifty percent of 211 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 2: their teams finishing with a winning record, which is it's 212 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: pretty unacceptable, it really is. But I understand they play 213 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 2: nine conference games and other conferences don't. But there's no reason, 214 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: considering the level of talent generally speaking in this area, 215 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 2: that more than five teams can't finish with the winning record. 216 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 2: The non conference schedules sort of up and down across 217 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: the board, but I think it's fair to assume that 218 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 2: this conference can only go up from where they were 219 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 2: last year. 220 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: I would agree with that. So what I think we'll 221 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: do talk about our general impressions of the teams within 222 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: the Big twelve, how we see them all meshing, how 223 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: we see them all knocking each other off, throwing a 224 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: little soliverble personality, kick it up a notch with some 225 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: solible your words, your words, and that we'll just we'll 226 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: try to suss all this out, man, figure out where 227 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: it goes. Yes, do you want to start with Oklahoma? 228 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: I do want to start out with Oklahoma. Okay? To me, 229 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: they are, by the way, pre season eighth in the poll, 230 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: the Amway Coaches poll that USA Today released earlier today. 231 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: Good timing. They are eighth in the preseason poll. Take 232 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: that with a green of salt. They are clearly the 233 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: cream of the crop. They should be able to control 234 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage on offense. They should be solid 235 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: with their back seven. What concerns me at a very 236 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: high level, and what I'm legitimately curious to see, is 237 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: if there is at all a transition phase now with 238 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley stepping in for Bob Stoops who retired. Remember 239 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: that it feels like it was an eon ago. Bob 240 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: Stoops retiring was kind of something that came out of 241 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: left field. It was a big story. I covered it 242 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: while you were away on your Where were you? Where'd 243 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: you go? I was on my moon. I was honeymoon. 244 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: You were off mooning. I talked to Bruce Felm and 245 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: I talked to Andy Staples about it, what it all meant. 246 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: It wasn't as big a surprise to them as I 247 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: think it was for a lot of college football fans. 248 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: But I don't want to undersell the fact that a 249 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: coaching legend has passed the baton onto a guy who's 250 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: still relatively young, who's very well respected in coaching circles, 251 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: but this is still his first head coaching gig Dan. 252 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: There's a lot that can go wrong with that. 253 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, he won't have time to devote as much energy 254 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: as he has these past couple of years to the offense. Luckily, 255 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield is really, really good at college football, one 256 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: of the great all time walk ons. And on the 257 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: flip side, no d d Westbrook, no samaj p Ry, 258 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 2: no Joe Mixon. So certainly going to be new names 259 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: on offense, But as you mentioned, the lineup front should 260 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: be really good and the schedule all things considered, and 261 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: I don't think it's fair to look too deeply into 262 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: what this Oklahoma team will be just because of what 263 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 2: they do at Ohio Stadium against Ohio State early on 264 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: in the year. Because the Big Twelve schedule is pretty good. Yeah, 265 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 2: I mean, they never played Texas as a true road game, 266 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: so it's your neutral site Cotton Bowl game. They're on 267 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 2: the road against Kansas State, They're on the road against 268 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 2: Oklahoma State and Bedlam. But all things considered, it's a 269 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: pretty even schedule once they get into the conference part 270 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 2: of the year. So I really like Oklahoma. I'm curious 271 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: to see what kind of in game management we see 272 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: from Lincoln, right that's the big difference on game day. 273 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 2: I think I have him down for ten wins. I 274 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 2: have ten and two. I have them losing Ohio State 275 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 2: on the road and to either Oklahoma State on the road, 276 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: you know, Kansas State. Nobody ever wants to play against 277 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 2: this style Kansas State team or some sort of weird 278 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: shootouty game, be it against West Virginia or TCU, who 279 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: they had a shootout against last year. So that's I'm 280 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: really excited to see this team, and I think you 281 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 2: hit every other point the wins projection. According to our 282 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: friend Bill Connolly, is currently at nine point seven. 283 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: Okay, so ten wins feels about right to me. I 284 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: would urge you and we'll talk a little bit more 285 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: about this when we get to Texas. Don't discount what 286 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: Tom Herman does as an underdog. We saw what he 287 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: did at Houston against some teams that he wasn't supposed 288 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: to beat, namely Oklahoma. Right, we'll see, We'll see what 289 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: he's able to do, how he assembles those parts. I 290 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: also want to come back to a point that you 291 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: mentioned about Oklahoma losing Joe Mixon samaj p Ryan. They're 292 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: two headed monster at running back as well as Dede Westbrook, 293 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: who was in New York for the Heisman Trophy presentation. 294 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: That's forty six hundred total yards walking out the door, yep. 295 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: How do they repentance that they've got names, they've got 296 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: talent because they're Oklahoma. But I don't expect that to 297 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: be just something that works out automatically. Because you've got 298 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. I think it's going to take some time. 299 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: It helps that you've got a really good offensive line, 300 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: probably the best in the Big twelve. That'll work for you, 301 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: But I think it's going to take some time. To 302 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: work things out. I don't think they'll have that all 303 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: in order by September ninth when they go to Ohio State. 304 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: I would also add this fun nugget, speaking of which, 305 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: Oklahoma is one of a handful of teams to have 306 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 2: never been shut out in a college football playoff game. 307 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: Oh college football playoff teams mostly have never been shut out, 308 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: and that includes Oklahoma. 309 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: Very good, very good. Yeah uh. And we'll see what 310 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: the defense has in story if it can improve. It's 311 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: been good. It's not been elite since brand Vettibles left, 312 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: but still a pretty good unit. As it relates, certainly 313 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: to the Big twelve. Who do we have next? We 314 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: both feel in ten wins? Yes, I'm feeling ten. Let's 315 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: go down to Texas. Okay, I mentioned Texas. They are 316 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: pre season twenty three dan according again to the Amway 317 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: Coaches USA today pol mm hmm. They get with a 318 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: green as salt. They indeed are. Last year, they were 319 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: very young, very very young. Charlie Strong was still the 320 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: coach way back when the defense as a whole got 321 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: better throughout the course of the year. Inconsistent, but got 322 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: better throughout the course of the season. The offense, though 323 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: had trouble. They had trouble assembling their parts outside of 324 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: Deonty Foreman and Shane Bachelle was certainly a revelation early 325 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: could certainly throw that streak down the side against teams 326 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: that were willing to surrender the street Notre Dame, but 327 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: beyond that, it just felt like they had a difficult 328 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: time building that cohesion. Now we've got Tom Herman, dan is, 329 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: what is he going to do with Shane Buschelle who 330 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: wasn't exactly as young, but he wasn't exactly any model 331 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: for efficiency on offense. Yeah, and it's sort of a 332 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: misnomer that you know Houston had this big, fancy offense 333 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: because of how they played early on in the season. 334 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: We saw them beat Oklahoma of course early on, But 335 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: I imagine Shane Bochelle will have a better idea of the 336 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: expectations of the offense because of Tom Herman, because of 337 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: what you know, it's Tim Beck, who I know a 338 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,719 Speaker 1: lot of people have very mixed opinions of as a coordinator. 339 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: He comes in to help run that Texas offense. But 340 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: here's the really good news. I still like Chris Warren 341 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: if he can stay healthy. I really like the Texas 342 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: offensive line. Defensively, I would say the Lion's share of 343 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: the talent is in the back whatever six or seven, 344 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: Lak Jefferson, Anthony Wheeler. These are healthy people, well hopefully. 345 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: I like a couple of the defensive backs for Texas 346 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: a lot. Chris Boyd and PJ. Lock are good, but 347 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if I see like super duper game 348 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: changers up front. And that's why I can't really get 349 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: into the threatening nine or ten wins sort of mode 350 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: for Texas. So my expectations are pretty limited because of health, 351 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: because of depth, because I just knew everything, including I 352 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: think Tom Herman shaved his head. I saw that today. 353 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: I saw they have forty three inch screens at every locker, 354 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: so everything is getting real sleek, whether it's a scalp 355 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 2: or a dressing room. So I am optimistic that Texas 356 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: is going to improve. If they can stop the run 357 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: a little bit better, if they can get after the 358 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 2: quarterback with some guys being shifted around a little bit better, 359 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: I think big things for Texas long term. I really 360 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 2: like Todderland to always have their defensive coordinator. Their schedule 361 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 2: is not the best because they travel to USC early 362 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 2: on but both Oklahoma schools are not true road games, 363 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 2: but they go on the road to TCU and West 364 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 2: Virginia at the end of the year. So will it 365 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 2: appears right now be tests for the front of the defense, 366 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 2: so we'll have a better idea of. 367 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: The incremental improvement. That's right, that's right by event. So 368 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: I want to also mention Todd Orlando, who came with 369 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: Tom Herman from Houston to Texas. Defense was again very 370 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: young a year ago and it did improve, but it 371 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: needs to get better against the run. Like you said, 372 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: what kind of impact will he have coming with Tom Herman. 373 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: We know that those two have worked pretty well together 374 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: to turn their Houston defense into what I thought was 375 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: a unit that was pretty formidable last year. 376 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 2: Yes, and on that a similar token. Here's what we 377 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: saw from Texas near the end of the year, a 378 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 2: lost to Kansas. Here's what we've seen from Tom Herman 379 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 2: these past couple of years. And I think we both 380 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 2: really like Tom Herman as a head coach. 381 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: We've seen Doudwicks, we saw them really look bad Houston 382 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: against SMU last year. They lose to Yukon a couple 383 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: of years ago. They've struggled with Navy. So it's the 384 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: freshing the idea that you should be teams that are 385 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: you're clearly better than, and so eliminating not limiting. Eliminating 386 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: the dud weeks. For Texas, I think is going to 387 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: be the huge, huge thing I'm looking for. There may 388 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: be dud weeks, but they're gonna play USC tight, and 389 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna play Oklahoma type. Okay, maybe they'll maybe they'll 390 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: lose that Baylor, but there are going to be games, 391 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: those games where they are underdogs where I think they 392 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: they play well because of Tom Herman and because of 393 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: all the returning talent they have coming back. Let me, 394 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: I'm worried about the scale. Yeah, let me read through 395 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: this list really quick. Right, Who's gonna who's gonna blow 396 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: the lid off the defense? That's yeah, that's a big 397 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: question on offense. But in terms of just guys coming back. 398 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: Eight of nine offensive linemen, including Connor Williams, who is 399 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: an All Doplican top three wide receiving targets, seven of 400 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: the top nine defensive linemen and six are either sophomores 401 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: or juniors. Seven of the top eight line again, six 402 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: are either sophomores or juniors and eight of the top 403 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: ten defensive backs returning. Seven of those are either sophomores 404 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: or juniors. So Texas is set up really nicely, not 405 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: just for this year, but certainly next year as well. 406 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: What's the record. I see a loss to either USC 407 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: or Oklahoma. I think they're going to knock one of 408 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: those teams off. Wow. I think there will be a 409 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: dud week at some point in there, and I'm going 410 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: to count another unspecified loss in there as well. I 411 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: say nine wins for Texas. I'm high on Texas. 412 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 2: I'm at like seven and a half, seven and five, 413 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 2: eight and four. If things go right health wise, I 414 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 2: think they they're just going to be that that transition yere. 415 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, where are we going next? 416 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 2: Let's go to Oklahoma State? All right, let's go to Stillwater. 417 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 2: Let's go to a team that I think we're both 418 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 2: pretty high one and Oklahoma State schedule wise tricky, it's 419 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:09,479 Speaker 2: sort of a landmine situation. They have Tulane, excuse me, 420 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: Tulsa early on, and it's a Tulsa team that's looking 421 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 2: a little bit different, but they were dangerous last year. 422 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 2: They traveled to pitt SEC really decent, only time. We'll 423 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: tell Tyler. But they've got a stretch of I think 424 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 2: it's at Texas, at West Virginia and Oklahoma in late 425 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 2: October early November. If they can go two and one 426 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 2: out of that, I think they have a very good 427 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: chance to at least threaten double digit wins. I think 428 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 2: they're good enough to be pitt They're good enough to 429 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 2: beat Tulsa in the non conference. I have them down 430 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 2: as a team threatening. I don't know if they can 431 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 2: get to that double digit winder in the regular season mark, 432 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: but I like all sorts of pieces on this team. 433 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 2: Even though the defense is pretty inexperienced, there's guys that 434 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 2: have rotated in. There's promising talent there. Offensively, I think 435 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 2: we all know the story at this point. Mason Rudolph 436 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 2: de Sides to come back. We love Junkyard, Jim Washington. 437 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: He's not even the only receiver in that core that's 438 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 2: really good. They're a deep core of speed and talent 439 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 2: in the receiving area of things. 440 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: And Tie, Yeah, guess what I have right now? What's 441 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: it breaking news? It's not breaking news. 442 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 2: Tie, I've got a Doode alert. There's a duode alert 443 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 2: because Justice Hill is so good. I'm planting my flag 444 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 2: on Justice Hill. 445 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: He is long arm of the law, just the long 446 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: arm of the law. Is a home run hitter. He 447 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: is a cut and go guy. He was, I believe, 448 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: a freshman last year and campaign sure was just ridiculous. 449 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: And gives them the balance that will have to draw 450 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: safeties in sometimes and give then obviously Junkyard Jim Washington. 451 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,479 Speaker 2: Room to Rome Deep. So he makes this offense complete. 452 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 2: Justice So actually reminds me a lot of Michael James 453 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: and that sort of cut and go and he's sort. 454 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: Of elusive water bug. Yeah, kind of kind of running back. 455 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: I love Justice Hill. He's gonna be so damn fun. Yeah. 456 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: By the way, Oklahoma State, the Cowboys are eleventh in 457 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: the preseason poll. Again, take it with a grain of salt. 458 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: Release today the Amblay USA Today Coaches Poll. They are 459 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: gonna be a ton of fun to watch. They always 460 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: are because of the offense. Mason Rudolph throws an awesome 461 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: deep ball and Mike Gundy is not afraid to use it. 462 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: That will make them exciting to watch. On offense, the 463 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: questions defense, it leaves a lot to be desired. We're 464 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: going on a couple of years now, Dan, since everyone 465 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 1: was enchanted by what Glenn Spencer could do as a 466 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. It just happens. Yeah, it hasn't been the same. 467 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: They're replacing a bad secondary with four of their top 468 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: six defensive backs going elsewhere, graduating, leaving the program. The 469 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: defense has been mediocre at best since like twenty thirteen, 470 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: and corner is really weak this year, the worst in 471 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: the Big twelve. I am very curious to see how 472 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: defensively they handle a Big twelve conference that's gonna want 473 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: to throw the football. Yeah, so that all there. We'll see. 474 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 1: They've got so many, got some good defensive ends. I'm 475 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: thinking like eight or nine. Yeah, I have nine and three. 476 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: Eight or nine feels right to me. M hm. Defense 477 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: is gonna be that issue, gonna be a problem. Where 478 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: are we going next? 479 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 2: Let's got a West flip in Virginia? Tyler, Okay, let's 480 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 2: talk here. 481 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: Point of contention, m West Virginia is pre season twenty 482 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: USA today am White pole two. Yeah. Last year was 483 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: a good year, ten and two regular season ten and three, 484 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: lost the bowl game to Miami. Do you feel that 485 00:25:53,600 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: with the following inventory of losses personnel losses, No, that 486 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: West Virginia should be the preseason twenty Skyler Howard is gone. 487 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: Two of their top three receivers are gone, five of 488 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: their seven offensive linemen, five of their top seven offensive 489 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 1: lineman excuse me, are gone. Their top three defensive linemen, 490 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: five of their top six linebackers, and five of their 491 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: top six defensive backs all gone. Do you feel that 492 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: that warrants a top twenty preseason ranking? USA Today am 493 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: Way coaches, Bull. 494 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 2: I think the Will Greer or as I now really 495 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 2: want to call him, the Bill Greer factor. 496 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: Are we hold on pause? Are we doing the Bill convert? 497 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: The will to Bill conversion? Here? 498 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 2: Do we currently have a college football bill with Big 499 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 2: Bill Fuller in the NFL? I love Bill Greer, as 500 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 2: the name. 501 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: Bill Grier doesn't have enough syllables. Maybe it's one of 502 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: these things because the same syllables as Bill Fuller, Bill 503 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: full Er. That's three Bill Greer, only two. No, Bill Greer. 504 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 1: That's a little bit of a stretch. Dan, that's fact. 505 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: Maybe only Maybe Bill Greer prefers Bill in a professional setting, 506 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: but to his friends, kind of like you with Dan, Danny, 507 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: maybe his family and friends call him Billy all right, 508 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: we've done Bill before we'll go. 509 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 2: Billy Greer got up to some stuff after high school, right, 510 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 2: trying to figure it all out in Morgantown, Billy Billy Greer. 511 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 2: I think that overvalues how people are viewing West Virginia 512 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 2: at the moment, and there are things really like about 513 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 2: West Virginia. I love Justin Crawford and what he was 514 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 2: able to show last year, another home run hitter. I 515 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 2: am worried. The linebackers are pretty much all back, but 516 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,479 Speaker 2: you're right the front on defense, the secondary is rebuilt 517 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 2: once again. And it's not like these West Virginia teams 518 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 2: haven't had two overhaul units year over year. They keep 519 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 2: infusing with JC guys, they keep scouting and developing correctly. 520 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 2: So Tony Gibson at the very least deserves somewhat of 521 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt. I'm a Tony great defensive coordinator, Yes, absolutely, 522 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 2: But I just it's a tough year to overhaul everything 523 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 2: on defense like they're going to have to do, so 524 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 2: I think they take a step back. I don't think 525 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 2: they're a top twenty team. Like it's the Amway, which 526 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 2: is so funny. The Amway coaches pol. 527 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, am way you look at today coaches pol. 528 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 2: I feel like they're not that sort of nine to 529 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 2: ten win type team like they've threatened to be recently. 530 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 2: I'm going to say they're a seven and five team 531 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 2: this year. They take a step back. The defense will 532 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 2: be fine eventually, but I think they're gonna they're gonna 533 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: take some hits. 534 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 1: I don't think it's fair to Dana Holgerson that there 535 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: are such expectations, because again, if you look at what 536 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: they are losing, this is a near total rebuild. Yeah, 537 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: it really is. I think you need to temper expectations. 538 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: It's a tough schedule too, it is it is you're 539 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: talking about an early game against Virginia Tech. Virginia Tech 540 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: loses its quarterback, but I think should be a pretty 541 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: solid opponent in Week one. I don't think West Virginia 542 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: is going to find their sea legs in time for 543 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: that game. I could see Texas Tech being a problem 544 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: because of their passing attack. I could see Baylor being 545 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: a problem if they get their defense together. I can 546 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: see Iowa State being a problem based on the way 547 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: they're sandwiched in between Oklahoma State and Kansas State. Yeah, 548 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: I could see a lot of things up in the air. 549 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,959 Speaker 1: For West Virginia. The only thing I really like at 550 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: this point is justin Crawford. That's the only thing. I'm 551 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: a fan of Billy Greer, but he only had two 552 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: good games. Yeah, let's keep things in check a little bit, 553 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: pretty high talent ceiling, but I think that's reasonable to say. 554 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying five and seven, four and eight for West Virginia. 555 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: I am not in at all huge steps back and 556 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: I'm usually pro West Virginia Mountaineers, but count me out 557 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: way out. I am selling hard. 558 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: See, I'm not that down because you have a good court, 559 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 2: you have a good system in place, you run the 560 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 2: ball well enough. 561 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: I think you win more than you don't. So wow, 562 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: I'm I'm looking for I respect it system. I'm looking 563 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: for personnel, and I'm looking for fit. 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When we laughed left our heroes 638 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: in the Big Twelve, we were talking about five and 639 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: seven West Virginia. Where we go in next in. 640 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 2: Let's go with perhaps because I think for proper cloth 641 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 2: or blue Apron, I forget which one. There was a 642 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 2: keyword of solid, Yeah, promo code. So let's go with 643 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 2: what looks to be the most solid. And that's the 644 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 2: most bankable team I think on our list here other 645 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 2: than Oklahoma in the Big Twelve, that's Kansas State. 646 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 647 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 2: I feel very good about Kansas State, not because of 648 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 2: what they necessarily return on offense, but because of what 649 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 2: they've shown on defense lately, even with the loss of 650 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 2: some big names, notably Jordan Willis on defense. I like 651 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 2: how their defense is playing. I like what they return 652 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 2: on that side of the ball. And the big thing 653 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 2: for me is even though their offense isn't going to 654 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 2: put up huge numbers, they have such a clear identity 655 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 2: and Jesse Ertz is just so solid they might put 656 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 2: together a thirty four hundred play drive. I don't know 657 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 2: what they do. I don't know how they do it. 658 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: They're going to go inch by inch and draw people 659 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: off sides, whatever the case may be. They are going 660 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: to ruin teams in the way that somebody who is 661 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: very patient and very adept at NCAA football rip for 662 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 1: Xbox PS four whatever, in that they can get five 663 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 1: yards every time they run. They're not going for weird 664 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: RPO plays, not trying to run an option. They're not. 665 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: They're just patient. And Kansas State does that on offense, 666 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 1: and that ruins the other their team's offense because then 667 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: they get impatient if they fall behind. Yeah, so Kansas 668 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,399 Speaker 1: State this year. I like Jesse here. It's a whole bunch. 669 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: I like what they bring back on both sides of 670 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: the ball. There's a lot of talent, there's a lot 671 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: of experience, and all things considered, the schedule's not bad. 672 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: It is they open against are they early on? Yeah? 673 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 2: It totally is feasible. They early on in the season. 674 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 2: I think they go to Nashville to play Vanderbilt, which 675 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 2: should just be a demolition derby that should be ten 676 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 2: to seven one way or the other. And then they 677 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 2: have it looks like they go to Texas, but they 678 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 2: always beat Texas, I mean usually Texas. 679 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: I think that game at Texas will be will be 680 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: the bell Weather there. There's a tough stretch if you're 681 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 1: looking at the schedule critically, very tough stretch from late 682 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:47,919 Speaker 1: September through the first three weeks of October, because you've 683 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: got a Baylor game, which we don't know what we're 684 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: going to get out of Baylor right now, but Baylor's defense, 685 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: we'll talk about Baylor's defense could be intriguing. Yeah, at Texas, 686 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: which I think is a good bell Weather game for 687 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: where Kansas State is at. Then in consecutive weeks at 688 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: home TCU and Oklahoma. You get through that four week stretch, 689 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: I think you're mostly sitting pretty in the Big twelve. 690 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 1: That to me is the rough patch to watch in 691 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 1: the schedule. 692 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,919 Speaker 2: I think that's fair. I think that's reasonable. I feel 693 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 2: good about it, though. I think at this point, if 694 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 2: everything you know, in Bill Snyder's getting over some health 695 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 2: concerns he had in the offseason, and we hope he's 696 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 2: obviously all right and that full strength sort of anchor 697 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 2: this team moving forward. But yes, you're absolutely right that 698 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 2: stretch is going to speak volumes. But this feels like 699 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 2: the year that we finished the season saying and Kansas 700 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 2: State was Kansas State. They did exactly what they should 701 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 2: have done given the talent that they have. I like 702 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 2: them a lot. I'm optimistic. I'm at about nine and 703 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 2: three right now with Kansas State. Yeah, I like the identity. 704 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: Preseason nineteen, by the way, in the newly released USA 705 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: Today Coaches, and it'll find to me it totally fine 706 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 1: to me nine and four last season. Important to note 707 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 1: that this is a team that improved drastically from start 708 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: to finish, both offensively and defensively, particularly on the defensive 709 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 1: side of the football. It's the season war on. The 710 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: defense got a lot better and that really did make 711 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: a difference, especially against the pass, which is paramounts if 712 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,359 Speaker 1: you're going to play in the Big twelve. My question though, 713 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: is whether or not they have more than just Jesse 714 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: Ertz and Alex Barnes making plays offense. Now, we've seen 715 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: Bill Snyder Kansas State do a lot. Even if you've 716 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: only got two guys. They can find a way to 717 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: make that work with that slow, plodding vanilla five yards 718 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 1: of play offense. But can they manufacture some big plays 719 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: like they did towards the end of last season. If 720 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: they do that, I think that takes them to another level. 721 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: I think that gets them to that nine win mark. 722 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 1: We're going to have to wait and see. That hasn't 723 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,879 Speaker 1: necessarily been their identity, but I think the pieces are 724 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 1: in place where they can do it. My other set 725 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,399 Speaker 1: of questions is about their defensive front because they lose 726 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,240 Speaker 1: Jordan Willison. That's gonna hurt. Can the front seven hold 727 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: up against the run and force the pass? Because I 728 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,839 Speaker 1: think they'll be pretty good against the pass this year. 729 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that may ask you a question, Sure, would you 730 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 2: want to be and we're talking optimist at Kansas State? 731 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: Would you want to root for this Kansas State team? 732 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: Just that's the end of the question. 733 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 2: Yes, pure, pure style, pure This is what I have 734 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 2: come to expect every week from Kansas State. They will 735 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 2: be outmatched by a couple of teams that are clearly 736 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 2: just way more talented and have a system in place. 737 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 2: You know, Kansas State maybe can't keep up with their speed, 738 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 2: can't produce enough big plays. Whatever, be it Oklahoma, be 739 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 2: at West Virginia, be at Oklahoma State, whatever, But you 740 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,879 Speaker 2: know that Kansas State is going to be more sound. 741 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 2: They're going to force more one on one tackles than 742 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 2: most of the teams they play against. But there's not 743 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,280 Speaker 2: going to be a ton of exciting plays, deep passes, 744 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 2: trick play. You know, whatever the case may be, is 745 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 2: that a team you would want to root for? 746 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: I would say no, because cheering for Case State's a 747 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: lot like cheering for Navy in that, even though you 748 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: don't have any kind of pyrotechnic identity on offense, you 749 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,800 Speaker 1: sort of know what you're signing up for. You I 750 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: love root Navy. You know what the team is going 751 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: to do offensively, and you also know that if it's 752 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: not working, it really ain't working right, and that can 753 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: be maddening. Yeah, so I would say no. 754 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 2: We saw a couple of years ago and they just 755 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 2: stopped being able to run the ball completely, like it 756 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 2: was feet that they were averaging per carry. 757 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: Texas for me is the Bellweather Game October seventh circle 758 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: it right now at Texas, I've got K State at 759 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 1: seven and five. I am not buying K State this year. 760 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: I disagree. I haven't said that in a long time. 761 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 1: Let's go to Baylor. Mm hmmmm. Baylor is clearly in transition. 762 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 1: They started last year six and oh. They finished oh 763 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: and six a tumultuous interim year led by Jim grob 764 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: which was weird, but they had to do it. In 765 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: the offseason, they hire Matt Rule from Temple, which was 766 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: a bit of a surprise. I have warmed to Matt Rule, 767 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: I will add I've never been the biggest Matt Rule 768 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: coaching hire fan, but I've warmed to Matt Rule based 769 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,760 Speaker 1: on what he's done so far. It's interesting. It follows 770 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 1: the theory of hire the opposite of the guy you 771 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: had in previously. And if ever there were an opposite 772 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: to Art Briles, just stylistically, schematically, certainly that guy would 773 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: be Matt Rule. Fair to say, yeah, absolutely fair to say. 774 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: What intrigues me, What surprises me, perhaps the most of 775 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 1: anyone in the Big twelve is how much I like 776 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: the potential that Baylor has on defense. When I used 777 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 1: to talk in that way about a Baylor defense. But 778 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot of talent there, Yeah, a ton of experience. 779 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 1: It's back and the combination of Matt Ruhle and Phil 780 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:08,240 Speaker 1: Snow was really effective at Temple. They built legitimately good 781 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 1: defenses in Philly. Offensively, I have no idea what's going 782 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 1: to happen. I don't even know what's going to look like. 783 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 1: I suspect that will probably take some time. On the 784 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, Dan, I'm actually quite bullish 785 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 1: on what Baylor could do. This is a conference that 786 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 1: needs better defenses to give it, I think, a better reputation. 787 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see what they can what they 788 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 1: can do here. I am pretty optimistic about Baylor this season, 789 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: and so I'm kind of feeling seven or eight wins here. 790 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,319 Speaker 2: Okay, I thought the Wheels, I mean, it was very 791 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,439 Speaker 2: clear the Wheels came off on the field last year 792 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 2: and second half of the season, and certainly it's a 793 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 2: fresh start for Baylor, for whatever that's worth. 794 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: Do you know who they open with Baylor? Baylor? Yeah, 795 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: they opened with Liberty. Liberty right, who hired the athletic 796 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 1: director who was at Baylor for a while and a 797 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: Liberty Baylor matchup is sort of like what if there 798 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: was just really inclement weather and they just decided, you 799 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: know what, let's just not this year. 800 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,760 Speaker 2: That's just not That's how I feel about Liberty Baylor. 801 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 2: Beyond that, schedule's not bad. They go to Duke, they 802 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,919 Speaker 2: go to Kansas State, to Oklahoma State, but it sort 803 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 2: of clears up near the end of the year. It's 804 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,879 Speaker 2: a front loaded schedule, which is very strange to say. 805 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: With Baylor. I like them. Matt Rule hire a lot. 806 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 1: I like his staff hires a whole lot. 807 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 2: I like what Obviously it's hard not to what Phil 808 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 2: Snow did with the Temple defense these past couple of years. 809 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 2: Baylor's going to be fine on the field because of 810 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 2: Matt Rule. I don't think they're going to be as 811 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 2: nearly as explosive. Nobody will be as they've been these 812 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,479 Speaker 2: past few years during the Arbriles tenure. But schedule's not bad. 813 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 2: The quarterback position, whether it's it's Zach Smith or a 814 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 2: new Solomon, the Arizona transfer running things, it'll be okay. 815 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 2: There's talent along the skill pa positions. I have them 816 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,839 Speaker 2: down as six and six just because I do think 817 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 2: there is going to be transition elements that you know, 818 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 2: they might lose toss up games, they might have problems 819 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 2: with offensive identity. We're not talking about a Temple offense 820 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 2: that was super explosive at all. So what exactly are 821 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 2: they going to be trying to do with an offense 822 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 2: that was recruited to play a very different type of 823 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 2: system that I think there's going to be There are 824 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 2: gonna be some growing pains there. Numbers are still a 825 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 2: little bit dicey just in terms of pure available high 826 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 2: level talent. So six and six feels about right, yeah, 827 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,919 Speaker 2: and I show some flashes, they're going to show some deficiencies. 828 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 1: I shouldn't just pan over the offense and say I 829 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 1: don't know what they're going to do. I don't. I 830 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 1: still don't know what they're going to do. But right 831 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,399 Speaker 1: what strikes me in looking at this roster is that 832 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 1: the main stabilizing forces from a year ago are pretty 833 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: much all gone save for Terrence Williams and three offensive linemen. 834 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,360 Speaker 1: Seth Russell gone, Katie Cannon gone, Kyle Fuller, dom de 835 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: Susan on this Tom yeah gone, yeah, this is Mora. 836 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,839 Speaker 1: So they've got a lot to work out on that side. 837 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 1: Of the ball that hasn't necessarily been Matt rules Forte. Defensively, 838 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what Phil Snow can do because 839 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 1: they do have a lot coming back on on the 840 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 1: defensive side of the football. So I'm feeling like seven 841 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 1: and five, eight and four if I want to get 842 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 1: really risky with it. But seven and five, let's let's 843 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 1: keep it right there. Who do you want to go 844 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 1: to next? I want to talk about Iowa State Wow, 845 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: before TCU. All right, let's talk about TCU. I don't 846 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 1: want to disrespect to you. We'll go TCU respectful. TCU is 847 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 1: my playoff pick a year ago. Remember, Yeah, how'd that 848 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 1: work out? They won? Eight and four? They didn't make 849 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: the playoff. Alas, for all intents and purposes, everyone is 850 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 1: back from that eight and four team from a year ago. 851 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 1: They have, according to our friend Bill Connolly, the most 852 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 1: returning production of any Power five team, which is certainly meaningful. 853 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 1: I am going to harken back though, to what I 854 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 1: said a year ago about Tennessee, and that is it's 855 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 1: about trust, babe. Oh my god, it's about trust, babe. Okay, 856 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 1: explain yourself. I am not gonna go where I went 857 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 1: a year ago with TCU because I just don't trust 858 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 1: Kenny Hill. And I know it's not all his fault. 859 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 1: This is more of a me thing, not a hymn thing, 860 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 1: just laying my heart out there for everyone. Some of 861 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 1: it was his fault. He got a lot of drop passes. 862 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,439 Speaker 1: A year ago. There was a revolving door at wide 863 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 1: receiver because guys kept getting hurt. You can't blame it 864 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 1: all on Kenny Hill, but you can't blame a chunk 865 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,320 Speaker 1: of it on him. He made a lot of dumb throws, 866 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 1: a lot of bad mistakes, and quite frankly, you just 867 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 1: can't do that. You can't do that. For as good 868 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,839 Speaker 1: as he was to start his college football career at 869 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 1: Texas A and M, that's how inconsistent he was this 870 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 1: past year at TCU. There were times where I wondered 871 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 1: if he was really interested in playing or if he 872 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,360 Speaker 1: had just mailed it in. Felt like he had killer instinct. 873 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 1: To me, maybe that's too harsh of criticism, but that 874 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 1: was what I was left with at the end of 875 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: TCU's season a year ago, and for that reason, I 876 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 1: don't know to what end I'm willing to subscribe again 877 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen just left a bad taste of my mouth. 878 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,959 Speaker 1: That's all rational. That being said, there is a ton 879 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 1: to like here because Kyle Hicks also comes back. In 880 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 1: addition to Kenny Hill, They've got four senior offensive linemen, 881 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 1: including Austin Schlottman, who's a big deal at center. The 882 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 1: back seven of their defense is loaded. All of their linebackers, 883 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 1: including their leading tackler, return, and they've got a workable 884 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,320 Speaker 1: schedule which is mostly backloaded. In November, when teams like 885 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 1: Texas and Baylor will probably be more experienced, it'll be 886 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 1: tougher than if you had them early. It sets up 887 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:58,359 Speaker 1: pretty well for TCU. The only real question I have 888 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 1: is along the line Josh carroway self, Cavante Turpin. He's 889 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 1: a minidod alert for me, Mini dood alert. We don't 890 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 1: play mini doodle now, No, I'm just telling you, he's 891 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 1: a literal mini dude. Yeah. So, I think if you 892 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,879 Speaker 1: want to be optimistic about TCU, the canvas is there. 893 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 1: It's there for you to paint your picture of what 894 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 1: a successful season looks like. I'm just I'm not going 895 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 1: to engage on that level with TCU again. I'm going 896 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 1: to say eight and four. That's what I have down 897 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 1: here as well. And I think it's the Kenny Hill 898 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,320 Speaker 1: pulled back factor. It's the inconsistency from receivers as talented 899 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 1: as they are. It's an identity thing they lose. You 900 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 1: didn't mention Doug Meachum. He goes over to Kansas to 901 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 1: run their offense. Honey Comby's still there, and they promote 902 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: I think the running backs coach to a co coordinator job, 903 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 1: so some transitions along the staff. I just I don't 904 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 1: know what to expect from TCU. You know, you look 905 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,360 Speaker 1: at the problems that they had last year. I'm not 906 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 1: sure how they've addressed everything. Hopefully it's just a health thing. 907 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,399 Speaker 1: Hopefully it's an identity thing. Hopefully it's a motivational thing. 908 00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 2: If then, you know, then you can see nine or 909 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,800 Speaker 2: ten wins, if everything is clicking and they stay healthy. 910 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 2: You know, Gary Patterson with time and experience to reshuffle things, 911 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 2: seems like a good thing. I'm going to say eight 912 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,759 Speaker 2: and four. I think some things get better, somethings stay 913 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 2: as is. I don't see it with this schedule, especially 914 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 2: the stretch. And you mentioned a workable schedule, but there's 915 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,800 Speaker 2: some chunks in the schedule, they have Texas and Oklahoma 916 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 2: and consecutive weeks in November, and then early on in 917 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 2: the season, sort of late September, early October, Oklahoma State 918 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 2: on the road, West Virginia and then Kansas State on 919 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,359 Speaker 2: the road. So a variety of styles one after the other. 920 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,280 Speaker 2: I don't know those are all the defenses there, you know, maybe, 921 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 2: say for West Virginia should be a tricky enough that 922 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,720 Speaker 2: I don't think TCU is able to pull away. 923 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 1: So I have eight and four. The other thing I'll 924 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,080 Speaker 1: add here, I don't want to pan over the defense 925 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 1: because they do have a lot coming back in the 926 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:50,880 Speaker 1: back seven. This defense has yet to return to the 927 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 1: glory days of a couple of years ago, right, I mean, 928 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: at some point they need to stop giving up big plays. 929 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,760 Speaker 2: I erase the entirety of the twenty fifteen season, including 930 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 2: the bowl season of TCU, So I don't even know 931 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:05,280 Speaker 2: what you're talking. 932 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,840 Speaker 1: Oh, right, of course, at some point they got to 933 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 1: stop giving up big plays. They got to start being 934 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,480 Speaker 1: disruptive again. The only good part of their defense, the 935 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,280 Speaker 1: only consistently good part of their defense from a year ago, 936 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 1: was a pass rush. They need to be all around 937 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 1: more consistent in order for this team to take another 938 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,880 Speaker 1: step forward and maybe try to live up to some 939 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,399 Speaker 1: of that hype. I don't even know if there is hype. 940 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:33,440 Speaker 1: I'm just making that up as a whole. That's how 941 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,800 Speaker 1: I feel about TCU. Sort of ambivalent. I'm going to 942 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,600 Speaker 1: go eight and four. All right, we were Now we're 943 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,919 Speaker 1: talking about Iowa State. Please? What I am excited about 944 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:49,319 Speaker 1: this team? Why? Good question? Okay, good question. This is 945 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 1: the program to follow if you have no rooting interest 946 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,240 Speaker 1: to the Big twelve, if you just want to invest 947 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,799 Speaker 1: in a story Dan that's going to be fun to 948 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 1: watch over the next two to three years. I think 949 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,800 Speaker 1: I think Iowa States where it's at. We got a 950 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 1: lot of people who own this show and they say, Wow, 951 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 1: I'm listening in Australia. Who should I root for? You're 952 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,560 Speaker 1: telling Australians root for Iowa State? Oh kind am, Yeah, 953 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,839 Speaker 1: the hell is wrong with you. Matt Campbell's first year 954 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 1: in ames last year they went three to nine. A 955 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 1: lot of improvement from start to finish. There are some 956 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,839 Speaker 1: good pieces coming back from a year ago. He did 957 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,880 Speaker 1: a good job recruiting in the offseason. At a minimum, 958 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 1: this is a program that no longer feels as stagnant 959 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 1: as it did at the end of the Paul Roades era. 960 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's doing some stuff. Defense 961 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,320 Speaker 1: is going to be a problem. They're gonna get overpowered 962 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 1: by a lot of the better attacks in the Big twelve. 963 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 1: I'm worried about the offensive line. They got experienced, but 964 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,920 Speaker 1: most of their starts from a year ago are gone. 965 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 1: So that's going to be a work in progress. To 966 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,720 Speaker 1: keep Jacob Park safe, open up holes for Mike Warren. 967 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,719 Speaker 1: The defense, you know, that's just going to be where 968 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 1: it's at. It's going to be a mess. I am 969 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:09,719 Speaker 1: excited though about my doodle Art. A gentleman. You may 970 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:13,360 Speaker 1: have heard of him by the name of Alan Lazard. 971 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 1: Sorry six five two twenty three, Alan Lazard. I have 972 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 1: a storied history with mister Lazard. Please tell we are 973 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,280 Speaker 1: nothing if not friends, honest brokers here on the solid 974 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:30,400 Speaker 1: verbal den I've never publicly admitted this. I've had grave 975 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 1: difficulty getting this gentleman's name correct really over the past 976 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,359 Speaker 1: two It's just like a mental block for me. Two 977 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,600 Speaker 1: years ago. You can go back and find a preview. 978 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 1: I may have edited it out, but at least the 979 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:47,320 Speaker 1: first time through, I referred to him as Alan Lizard. Okay, 980 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,320 Speaker 1: and then I realized the air in my way is 981 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,560 Speaker 1: A couple weeks later and I started calling him in 982 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:58,880 Speaker 1: true Eastern PA form Alan Lazard, which was also wrong. 983 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 1: Now I'm back officially on the Allan Lazard train. But 984 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 1: the bigger point that I have, in addition to the 985 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,719 Speaker 1: fact that he's a thousand yard receiver, he's a big dude. 986 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,160 Speaker 1: He's going to be an NFL prospect, probably get drafted 987 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 1: next year in the senior year, clearly Jacob Park's top target. 988 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,920 Speaker 1: The larger point is that we've got options now for 989 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,120 Speaker 1: the coming season. I've sort of been workshopping a few 990 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,440 Speaker 1: things that I think of real potential. Here. I'm upset already. 991 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,440 Speaker 1: I'm pre upset. I'm gonna give you two options. I 992 00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,280 Speaker 1: want to tell you which I should go with, because 993 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 1: whether you like it or not, I am going with 994 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:33,040 Speaker 1: one of them. This better be better than your four 995 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 1: syllable guys. Option A huh charred by Alan Lazard. 996 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm I'm really gotten. I really have fingers crossed 997 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,239 Speaker 2: for Option B because it's the. 998 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,520 Speaker 1: Big twelve Texas Tech. Texas Tech gonna get charred by 999 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:54,800 Speaker 1: Alan Lazard. Okay, I'm waiting. It's a slogan. It's like 1000 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,600 Speaker 1: Body by Jake. Now, I got it. It's not a nickname. 1001 00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,360 Speaker 1: It's more than that, and it could be if it 1002 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:00,840 Speaker 1: doesn't work out, it could be the name of his 1003 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 1: restaurant or a showing food network Charred by Alan. You 1004 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:10,480 Speaker 1: don't like it, I'm I'm ready for be. Option B 1005 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 1: would be if I want to return to my roots 1006 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:21,440 Speaker 1: as an Eastern Pennsylvanian with a slightly Philadelphia influenced accent. Okay, 1007 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:27,919 Speaker 1: the Duke of Hazzard Alan Lazzard. But it's not it's name. 1008 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,279 Speaker 1: He's dangerous, he drives a Dodge Charger. He wants to 1009 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,640 Speaker 1: date your sister. He's the Duke of Hazzard, Alan Lazzard. 1010 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,960 Speaker 1: Why don't we just call call ioways say it el passego, 1011 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 1: el passe coo. Yeah, because Jacob Park is really good, 1012 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,920 Speaker 1: even though he has a weird skin, beret haircut. I 1013 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,440 Speaker 1: don't know if you've seen what he looks like. It's 1014 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:47,760 Speaker 1: very it's very strange. 1015 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,319 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think we just accept Alan Lazard Alan 1016 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,719 Speaker 2: Lazard for who he is. Now I was I was 1017 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 2: thinking about these all day. Dan a workshop. You're you're 1018 00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:58,879 Speaker 2: just gonna toss them in. 1019 00:54:58,800 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 1: The waste basket. 1020 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 2: I think we got to keep going, ty, I think 1021 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 2: we got to keep workshopping chard by Lazart. I'll accept 1022 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,880 Speaker 2: that one ahead of whatever the hell you said was 1023 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:08,360 Speaker 2: option B. 1024 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 1: What do you think about being team? Then you really 1025 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:12,279 Speaker 1: ruined the whole night for me. 1026 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,600 Speaker 2: Iowa State is going to be good, perhaps eventually, if 1027 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,000 Speaker 2: they recruit well on defense, if they're able to stay 1028 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:18,840 Speaker 2: healthy on offense. 1029 00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,959 Speaker 1: We like Jacob Park. You skimmed over the fact that 1030 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 1: Joe Lanning, who started out the season at quarterback for 1031 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:28,960 Speaker 1: them last year, is now they're starting mid linebacker. Hell yeah, 1032 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,920 Speaker 1: I hope he's awesome. Would you say he's the quarterback 1033 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 1: of the defense? Yes, he is the quarterback of the defense. 1034 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,640 Speaker 1: In so many ways, Iowa State was in games last year. 1035 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,960 Speaker 1: They blew a lead against I think it was Baylor, 1036 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,560 Speaker 1: and they lost a shootout, but they were in even 1037 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 1: though they went I think they went three to nine 1038 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:49,680 Speaker 1: last season. They were competitive, they didn't back down. They 1039 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,799 Speaker 1: played motivated football. I was very excited to see that 1040 00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,480 Speaker 1: because the Big twelve was kind of stanky last year 1041 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 1: in a number of ways, and the emergence of a 1042 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,760 Speaker 1: competitive Iowa State and even to a slight lesser extent, 1043 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,160 Speaker 1: the emergence of a competitive Kansas team was at least 1044 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:10,239 Speaker 1: you're ready tie. Yeah, incremental improved, incremental improvements. I think 1045 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 1: they have Northern Iowa again this year and the game 1046 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,560 Speaker 1: they lost last year, so hopefully they can flip that game. 1047 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 1: They can hopefully flip maybe either the Kansas State game 1048 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,600 Speaker 1: or who else were they close against the lost the 1049 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,879 Speaker 1: Oklahoma game. They're probably not going to beat Oklahoma this year, 1050 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,719 Speaker 1: but if they can flip that or Oklahoma State they 1051 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,440 Speaker 1: were competitive in I could see a four and eight 1052 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:35,399 Speaker 1: campaign for Iowa states. I could. Yeah, to me, this 1053 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,400 Speaker 1: is like the new drive for six. I don't know. 1054 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,520 Speaker 1: I don't know where six is coming from. I'm not 1055 00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,080 Speaker 1: sure I know where five is coming from. The schedule 1056 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:44,920 Speaker 1: gets weird in November. You got three or four on 1057 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 1: the road, including your final two at Baylor at k State. 1058 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 1: You'll probably be able to throw against something. Teams definitely 1059 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:56,319 Speaker 1: should be Yeah, lackluster defenses. West Virginia comes to mind. 1060 00:56:56,360 --> 00:57:00,480 Speaker 1: They should be be able to be had in the 1061 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,200 Speaker 1: secondary and Texas Tech that's kind of their mo We'll 1062 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,960 Speaker 1: talk about them next. But I'm going to say I'm 1063 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,759 Speaker 1: gonna say five and seven at best, four and eight 1064 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 1: more realistically, Okay, but I'm excited. I like Matt Campbell. 1065 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of the Duke of Hazzard, Allen 1066 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:25,440 Speaker 1: Lazard and Mike Warren and Jakwan Bailey on defense. So 1067 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 1: I think they take another step forward. I'm excited to 1068 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,560 Speaker 1: see where they go. I think them getting incrementally better, 1069 00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,120 Speaker 1: even if they're not going to make a bowl that's 1070 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,600 Speaker 1: meaningful for the Big Twelve. They need to have I 1071 00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,280 Speaker 1: think more parody between top and bottom, and I think 1072 00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,360 Speaker 1: this will help get them there. Agree, all right, let's 1073 00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,160 Speaker 1: go to Texas Tech. Dan, Let's do it. I am 1074 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,320 Speaker 1: obligated to play this sound every time I talk about 1075 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:56,080 Speaker 1: Texas Tech. We put a ton of research into these previews, 1076 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,439 Speaker 1: as you because we're covering a bunch of teams each week, 1077 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,480 Speaker 1: So you know, don't don't pan it, don't kill us. 1078 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,800 Speaker 1: Excuse me if we pan over some stuff here and there, 1079 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:06,600 Speaker 1: if we don't get into the full minutia and the 1080 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,000 Speaker 1: machinations of each team, all right, that's not what we 1081 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,560 Speaker 1: always do here. It did dawn on me though, that 1082 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,400 Speaker 1: there's really no need to overthink Texas Tech. The preview 1083 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,000 Speaker 1: has been exactly the same each of the last three years. 1084 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:25,520 Speaker 1: The names change, the preview is always the same. True 1085 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:30,400 Speaker 1: it does every year every year. It's well, Tech's got 1086 00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 1: a good offense, they're gonna throw it for a ton 1087 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,360 Speaker 1: of yards. They got to play better defense. They play 1088 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:39,920 Speaker 1: better defense, they're gonna be much better shape. But offense, 1089 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:41,400 Speaker 1: there'll be a ton of FUNNL watch. We just we 1090 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,720 Speaker 1: don't know if they're gonna stop anybody. And I feel 1091 00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,120 Speaker 1: like we're there again this year. They lose Pat Mahomes. 1092 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 1: Their defensive lines of total reboot for their top five 1093 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 1: tacklers are gone. 1094 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,680 Speaker 2: Yeah they were super beat up last year too on defense. 1095 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 2: But yes, the point stands. 1096 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 1: But I'm just, you know, I'm very blase on Tech 1097 00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,720 Speaker 1: Tech again. I need Cliff Kingsbury to prove to me 1098 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,280 Speaker 1: that he's got more in the tank than just a 1099 00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:10,080 Speaker 1: really fun offense. Okay, I think that's all right. 1100 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:14,120 Speaker 2: They have promising quarterbacks, they have speed on offense. They're 1101 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:15,960 Speaker 2: going to put up points, they're gonna put up yards. 1102 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,040 Speaker 2: The defense, you know, if it's not a disaster, that 1103 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,640 Speaker 2: will be a surprise, because that's what we've come to expect. 1104 00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,000 Speaker 2: I don't know that there's more to say about Texas 1105 00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,240 Speaker 2: Tech at this point. I think it would actually be 1106 00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,160 Speaker 2: wasting our breaths to say anything that we already have 1107 00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:31,280 Speaker 2: not said. 1108 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm fine with that. 1109 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,840 Speaker 2: I would also add, though, that two of the quarterbacks 1110 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,960 Speaker 2: on the depth chart their names are Payne Sullens and 1111 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,840 Speaker 2: McLain Carter, which are aggressively Texas quarterback. 1112 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,080 Speaker 1: Now, it's very aggressive. 1113 00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I have them down as five and seven, 1114 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,720 Speaker 2: five and seven. Maybe when a shootout they didn't, I 1115 00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:49,720 Speaker 2: go five and seven here. 1116 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Final team, Final team, Dan Rock, Chalk Jayhawk. Mmmmmmm. 1117 00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm not going to ask you how high the ceiling 1118 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,120 Speaker 1: is because that's a weird way to phrase it for 1119 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 1: where I think Kansas is going to be this year. Instead, 1120 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,640 Speaker 1: let me turn it around a little bit. Let me 1121 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,800 Speaker 1: ask you how much higher do you think the floor 1122 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,600 Speaker 1: is in twenty seventeen as opposed to twenty sixteen? 1123 01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 2: A significant distance, because if the floor is one in eleven, 1124 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:27,600 Speaker 2: two and ten, I think even not even sort of 1125 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,520 Speaker 2: based on win loss record, but just what they look 1126 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 2: like on the field. They keep infusing with JC guys 1127 01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,480 Speaker 2: the defensive line looks really good. I like the ability 1128 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,880 Speaker 2: on offense to find playmakers. The talent is in a 1129 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,840 Speaker 2: place that's much higher than it was under Charlie Weiss, 1130 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:45,800 Speaker 2: and I don't think that can be overlooked, and that 1131 01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,360 Speaker 2: includes coaching talents. They hired Doug Meachum. So I expect 1132 01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 2: improvement in scheme, in identity on offense. It's going to 1133 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,680 Speaker 2: take a while to really look like a robust, big 1134 01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:02,760 Speaker 2: twelve offense. But schedules fine, it's backloaded. I don't think 1135 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:08,040 Speaker 2: they're winning five games, but can they go threatening three 1136 01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,320 Speaker 2: and nine, four and eight, A couple breaks here and there, 1137 01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,760 Speaker 2: Maybe they play a team with an injured quarterback and 1138 01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:15,480 Speaker 2: pick off a few passes. 1139 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:17,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. 1140 01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 2: I don't expect it's another drive to six team, but 1141 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna say three and nine, but an 1142 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,160 Speaker 2: incrementally improved three and nine. 1143 01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:31,800 Speaker 1: I'm interested in Kansas primarily because of the way that 1144 01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:36,000 Speaker 1: David Beatty built this year's version of the team. He'll 1145 01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,800 Speaker 1: Connelly referred to it as surfing the transfer market as 1146 01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:43,120 Speaker 1: if they were at English soccer school. But there are transfers, 1147 01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,160 Speaker 1: there are jucos stepping in plug and play guys to 1148 01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:50,000 Speaker 1: help stabilize the ship, because the problem at Kansas was 1149 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,720 Speaker 1: not just limited to schematics. It was talent. They need, 1150 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,800 Speaker 1: they need bodies, they need better players, and I think 1151 01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,959 Speaker 1: he's trying to do his part to build depth this year. 1152 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:04,000 Speaker 1: You know, offensively, last year they were a huge mess. 1153 01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,280 Speaker 1: This year they lose a good chunk of their secondary 1154 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,240 Speaker 1: from a year ago, which wasn't great to begin with, 1155 01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:14,280 Speaker 1: but again, that's gonna be a problem spot. You're right 1156 01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:19,480 Speaker 1: to say that there's a murderer's row starting in October 1157 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,560 Speaker 1: and then all throughout the rest of the season. Here 1158 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:26,200 Speaker 1: is what happens to Kansas in terms of their schedule 1159 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 1: between late September when they're on buy and the end 1160 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:36,840 Speaker 1: of the year. Texas Tech at Iowa State at TCU, 1161 01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:40,960 Speaker 1: K State, Baylor at Texas, Oklahoma at Oklahoma State, all 1162 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:45,000 Speaker 1: in consecutive weeks. I don't know if they win any 1163 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:48,440 Speaker 1: of those games. And Bill Connolly was wise to point 1164 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:52,800 Speaker 1: out in looking at that schedule that really the hit 1165 01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:56,240 Speaker 1: or miss game, the Bell Weather game for Kansas is 1166 01:02:56,280 --> 01:03:00,360 Speaker 1: going to be Ohio in Week three. Ohio, which he's 1167 01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,240 Speaker 1: got projected as the one hundred and third best S 1168 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:07,080 Speaker 1: and P plus team in the country. He's saying, that's 1169 01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,800 Speaker 1: the bel Weather game, and I agree. I agree. You 1170 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,080 Speaker 1: got three games in the beginning that are probably winnable. 1171 01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:16,919 Speaker 1: Maybe you pick off a game at some point later 1172 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,520 Speaker 1: in the year. But I don't know how you get 1173 01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:21,520 Speaker 1: to four wins. If you're Kansas, you can go three 1174 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:25,560 Speaker 1: to nine still improve drastically because they've been so bad, 1175 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,440 Speaker 1: and I think feel pretty good about where things might 1176 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:29,400 Speaker 1: go in twenty eighteen. 1177 01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,880 Speaker 2: So they have as I look at this, quarterback wise, 1178 01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:37,360 Speaker 2: if we're worried about their defense, guys who will throw 1179 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,800 Speaker 2: it all over them, A good chance of guys who 1180 01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,520 Speaker 2: are throwing it all over them. Maybe not a guy 1181 01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:46,880 Speaker 2: until that well, Texas Tech probably will, but other than 1182 01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:48,760 Speaker 2: Texas Tech, I'm not fully confident in. 1183 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:53,200 Speaker 1: What Billy Greer. Billy, We'll see what happens Billy Greer. Yeah, 1184 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:57,600 Speaker 1: in terms of depth of dangerous quarterbacks, it's a good 1185 01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:01,520 Speaker 1: year to be rebuilding a secondary, a bad school. We'd 1186 01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,040 Speaker 1: a bad program or bad with a bad squad or 1187 01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:07,800 Speaker 1: an underwhelming squad. So they always seem to put the 1188 01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,600 Speaker 1: fear of life into TCU every year, and that's on 1189 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,640 Speaker 1: the road this year it's in Fort Worth. They're going 1190 01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,920 Speaker 1: to beat somebody that we don't have it down as 1191 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,840 Speaker 1: right now. They are going to take somebody down that 1192 01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:24,160 Speaker 1: seems improbable. That's what I will say. All right, Well, 1193 01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,640 Speaker 1: in closing here, since we've gone through all ten teams, yes, 1194 01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,920 Speaker 1: let's let's tier off these teams. Let's let's put them 1195 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,560 Speaker 1: in like four groups. I think we both agree that 1196 01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,120 Speaker 1: Oklahoma is tops. Mm hm. You think they're alone on 1197 01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:39,720 Speaker 1: the top. I think they're alone in the top tier. 1198 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:45,240 Speaker 1: I would put in Tier two Oklahoma State, Texas, and 1199 01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:49,040 Speaker 1: TCU probably in that order, Okay. I suspect that you 1200 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:54,760 Speaker 1: would put k State in that tier. I would, Okay, 1201 01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:59,360 Speaker 1: behind TCU. I have k State kind of right on 1202 01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,240 Speaker 1: the border of tier two and three, and then I 1203 01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:06,720 Speaker 1: go Baylor sixth. I go bail in a better place 1204 01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,880 Speaker 1: than West Virginia right now, I think so because I 1205 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,480 Speaker 1: sort of have that too. Yeah, West Virginia right on 1206 01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,520 Speaker 1: the cusp there. If there's a gray area between tier 1207 01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,320 Speaker 1: three and four, I put West Virginia there. Even though 1208 01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,800 Speaker 1: they're again preseason top twenty, which for the life of me, 1209 01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:24,720 Speaker 1: I can't understand they are totally rebuilding. I really think 1210 01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:28,120 Speaker 1: you got to temper your expectations. I still would argue 1211 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,400 Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt factor is pretty high there. 1212 01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:34,560 Speaker 1: And then for me, I go eighth, Iowa State, Ninth 1213 01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:38,280 Speaker 1: Texas Tech. Who I'm just I'm probably putting them ninth. 1214 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:43,120 Speaker 1: Not because of actually believing they'll finish worse than Iowa State, 1215 01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,680 Speaker 1: but I'm just fed up with Tech's Tech. Okay, on 1216 01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:49,400 Speaker 1: a personal level, I'm very fed up with them, okay. 1217 01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,320 Speaker 1: And then tenth is Kansas. You know, a bunch of transfers, 1218 01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,200 Speaker 1: plug and play guys. I'm curious as to how they 1219 01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,480 Speaker 1: Lord Doug meetchim away and what that could do for 1220 01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:02,240 Speaker 1: a Kansas offense. But uh, three and nine, I think 1221 01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,120 Speaker 1: this is a ceiling for them. 1222 01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:09,880 Speaker 2: Wow, down, down down, Yeah, all right, I mostly agree. 1223 01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:14,560 Speaker 2: Should we check in with our parallel universe Serius XM 1224 01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,840 Speaker 2: version of the show, Let's do It, Ladies and gentlemen, 1225 01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,800 Speaker 2: Welcome back, SiriusXM The Solid Verbal eight eight. 1226 01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,000 Speaker 1: Eight, nine nine, nine. Tune tu Tim give us a 1227 01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,520 Speaker 1: call in the insta Loom hotline. We are talking Big twelve. 1228 01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:29,080 Speaker 1: What will Oklahoma look like without vod stoops. It's going 1229 01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,960 Speaker 1: to be a change, no doubt about it. What can 1230 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:35,240 Speaker 1: Texas do with new coach Tom Herman? Will he bring 1231 01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,040 Speaker 1: some much needed energy to the forty acres? Gotta be honest, 1232 01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,840 Speaker 1: big question right there. Mike Gundy has a big offense 1233 01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,760 Speaker 1: this year. Will it be enough for those cowboys to 1234 01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,280 Speaker 1: make some noise? Gonna be a fun fall in stillwater, 1235 01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,800 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. We know Cliff Kingsberry has the looks, 1236 01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,160 Speaker 1: but will he find the defense? Some new questions and Lodock, 1237 01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,640 Speaker 1: that's for sure. Should we be hearing sirens warning about 1238 01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:01,280 Speaker 1: dan O Holgerson's air raid? God, wait and see? Is 1239 01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,360 Speaker 1: can he Hill the answer for TCU? And can Gary 1240 01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,640 Speaker 1: Patterson get this Hornbrock team back to where they were? 1241 01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:11,280 Speaker 1: Only time will tell. What about Kansas State? Are they 1242 01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:15,160 Speaker 1: sneaking up on America? And what about Kansas, Iowa State, Baylor? 1243 01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:18,800 Speaker 1: Could they make some noise? A huge question, no doubt 1244 01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,720 Speaker 1: about it. Eight eight, nine, nine on tune Turn ten, 1245 01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:23,560 Speaker 1: give us a buzz on the install Loum hotline. And 1246 01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:30,280 Speaker 1: now because you've requested it on that hotline, Disbussyo, I 1247 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,080 Speaker 1: love those ties. Ty. You brought it back in, Yes, 1248 01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,360 Speaker 1: you brought it back down. Oh it felt right, Ty 1249 01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,920 Speaker 1: felt right? We got to pigive the people what they demand. 1250 01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:41,520 Speaker 1: It felt good. 1251 01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, just to know it's out there, ty Just to 1252 01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,200 Speaker 2: know it's out there. For not listening to podcasts, it 1253 01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:46,680 Speaker 2: felt good. 1254 01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:48,520 Speaker 1: It feels good to be back in the swing of 1255 01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:52,440 Speaker 1: things here talking about twenty seventeen college football. I do 1256 01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,000 Speaker 1: have five nuggets though, Tye, please please, we don't want 1257 01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,880 Speaker 1: to leave out the aa C nuggets. Yeah. 1258 01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,480 Speaker 2: Please, I've got a group of five nuggs. It's power 1259 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,880 Speaker 2: six nuggets. Here's what you need to know going into 1260 01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:06,080 Speaker 2: the season. According to me, you probably don't agree with 1261 01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:06,480 Speaker 2: all of this. 1262 01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:12,240 Speaker 1: Number five. Randy Edzel's back. Yeah, dream job? Can we play? 1263 01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,840 Speaker 1: Can we play? Sexier than Edsel? Throughout the course of 1264 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,880 Speaker 1: the season, because people really got into that. Absolutely, I 1265 01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:21,679 Speaker 1: had gotten through. I had my mom texting me about 1266 01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:27,080 Speaker 1: Randy Edseel's overall sexiness. Okay for me, but it was fun. 1267 01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:32,160 Speaker 1: William Shatner, Oh, you're you're playing it now? 1268 01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:36,200 Speaker 2: I'm asking you, ty Is William Shatner objectively sexier than Randy? 1269 01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,200 Speaker 1: No, you gotta go Edzel. I think I'm going on 1270 01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:39,320 Speaker 1: Etzel's younger. 1271 01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:43,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it probably has his own hair, sure, but he 1272 01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:46,040 Speaker 2: hired RTT Lashley, who has been at Auburn, and Auburn 1273 01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:47,960 Speaker 2: was looking for a change offensively, so he's running the 1274 01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:52,719 Speaker 2: offense that you caught next. SMU has a literal large receiver, 1275 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:54,920 Speaker 2: and he is a big receiver in every sense the word. 1276 01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,919 Speaker 2: Courtland Sutton is probably one of the best three receivers 1277 01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:02,320 Speaker 2: in college football. Is borderline unguardable, especially when he plays 1278 01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:07,080 Speaker 2: in the American He is awesome. He's really good. You 1279 01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,879 Speaker 2: should watch SMU. If there's a like a weird random Wednesday, 1280 01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:11,759 Speaker 2: Thursday or Friday night game, watch Courtland Sutton. 1281 01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:12,280 Speaker 1: He's worth it. 1282 01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:16,240 Speaker 2: What about what about Tom Selleck? Oh, Seleck is way 1283 01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:19,000 Speaker 2: sexier than it. You gotta go with this passroom slowly, 1284 01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:23,160 Speaker 2: not even close. I would point out that Riley Ferguson 1285 01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:25,799 Speaker 2: is really, really good. He is the quarterback of Memphis. 1286 01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:27,880 Speaker 2: He of course transferred from Tennessee a little bit ago, 1287 01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:32,640 Speaker 2: even without Chip Long, who Notre Dame pulled away unceremoniously. 1288 01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:34,479 Speaker 1: He's very, very good. 1289 01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:36,960 Speaker 2: He finished last season with an eleven to one touchdown 1290 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,000 Speaker 2: interception ratio in November was super efficient. 1291 01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:40,920 Speaker 1: I like him a lot. 1292 01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,640 Speaker 2: I like Riley Ferguson, I like Mike Norvella everything is 1293 01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,400 Speaker 2: happening from Memphis. He's a He's an even bigger prospect 1294 01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:47,960 Speaker 2: than just good in college. You could be a good 1295 01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:55,000 Speaker 2: pro prospect ideal size. What about John lithgow Ah Edseel, Yeah, 1296 01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:56,080 Speaker 2: you gotta go. I think you gotta go. 1297 01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:57,720 Speaker 1: Go on ed Soel. There's a there's a sportiness to 1298 01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:59,639 Speaker 1: Edsel that I don't think Lythgo is ever gonna match. 1299 01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,639 Speaker 1: Houston has Ed Oliver, and Oliver is going to destroy 1300 01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:06,280 Speaker 1: everybody that tries to block at Oliver. Also, they have 1301 01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:10,840 Speaker 1: Kyle Allen, but mostly they have Ed Oliver. Yeah, Major 1302 01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:14,759 Speaker 1: Appleoy takes over Kyle Allen is fun, but at Oliver Finally, 1303 01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:17,240 Speaker 1: and this is the one you're gonna appreciate your guy, 1304 01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:21,880 Speaker 1: Quintin Flowers, Tie, my boy, he's got a very very 1305 01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:23,760 Speaker 1: soft schedule, my boy. 1306 01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,280 Speaker 2: Seventeen, Charlie Strong takes over at USF. Quinn Flowers is back, 1307 01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:29,559 Speaker 2: A ton is back on both sides, which isn't always 1308 01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:33,200 Speaker 2: the best because that defense wasn't particularly good, but right 1309 01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:38,439 Speaker 2: spot of that defense. Who is the leading returning tackler 1310 01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:42,439 Speaker 2: for the American Athletic Conference Tie, It's a great name 1311 01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:44,240 Speaker 2: because I'm gonna say it right now. 1312 01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:50,439 Speaker 1: Augiez augez Jay, do we say it like John Miller, 1313 01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:56,840 Speaker 1: Sanchez Sanchas, Augie au g g I E Sanjay, I'm excited. Yeah. 1314 01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,919 Speaker 2: So those are your five American you know, Navy's rebuildings, 1315 01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,519 Speaker 2: all sorts of stuff. Well, hopefully Willie Fritz improves that tulane. 1316 01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:04,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, it should be a really fun conference this year. 1317 01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,559 Speaker 2: All right, Well that does it for Big twelve. That 1318 01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:13,920 Speaker 2: does it for some American nuggets. Next week we're doing 1319 01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:18,840 Speaker 2: the Big ten. Next week we are doing the Big ten. Yes, 1320 01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:21,840 Speaker 2: that sounds right. We're starting big. We're starting literally big. 1321 01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:30,080 Speaker 2: I have one more sexier than Randy Edzel for you, Tie, Yeah, 1322 01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:31,040 Speaker 2: let's go with. 1323 01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:41,719 Speaker 1: Warren Beatty. Probably go Randy Etzel. I'm going baby Tie, 1324 01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:43,880 Speaker 1: and it's not close for me, Gonna go Randy Etzel. 1325 01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,479 Speaker 2: Now, Warren Batty is definitely sexier. Warren Beatty has a 1326 01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:49,639 Speaker 2: long history of being a good looking guy. 1327 01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:55,240 Speaker 1: What about Randy Etzel or Bob Davey. That's almost like 1328 01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:59,519 Speaker 1: the brothers say, they're kind of the same person At that. 1329 01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:01,519 Speaker 2: Point, I'm one personality. I think I can believe in 1330 01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,519 Speaker 2: Bob Davey a little bit more. As about three I'm 1331 01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:04,240 Speaker 2: still going to. 1332 01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:08,200 Speaker 1: Bob davey okay fa fair all right, So again, thank 1333 01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:11,679 Speaker 1: you for tuning in. Check us out on Facebook, on Twitter, 1334 01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,880 Speaker 1: on Instagram. We're all over the place. We're also on Reddit, 1335 01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,639 Speaker 1: reddit dot com, slash r slash Soliverble. Some fans set 1336 01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:20,160 Speaker 1: up a little community. If you're interested, Yeah, hang out. 1337 01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,960 Speaker 1: I promise people I would read off that url. 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