1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is the one and only 3 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: wes Hodkuitz. We're coming to you here from our studios 4 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: at lambeau Field West. It is Friday, our final show 5 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: of the week before we take off for Big D tomorrow, 6 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: and as we finish up the week, like always, we'll 7 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: talk Keys to Victory. So I think I have a 8 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: pretty good idea where you want to start with this one. Yeah, 9 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: j R. Ewing, I'm gonna have the cowboy hat on, 10 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: I have the suit ready already. I'm gonna go out there. 11 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna set the tone for everybody, and that's gonna 12 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: be the biggest key to victory of all. Uh No, 13 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: I mean it obviously is Ezekiel Elliott. And the reason 14 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: I say this, we we know every single week we 15 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: do our Keys of vic dream. But you want any 16 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: reason for why this New Orleans Saints were able to 17 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: come out with victorious in that game against the Dallas Cowboys, 18 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: That was the key to victory. The fact that Zeke 19 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: Elliott didn't get going, the fact that they were not 20 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: able to establish the ground game and they were able 21 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: to win a low scoring contest. I don't know. I 22 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: don't see that scenario playing out again. I think that 23 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: the over is going to be more than twenty two 24 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: points in this game. I think the Packers are going 25 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: to have to score a couple of touchdowns. I don't 26 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: think you're gonna be able to beat the Cowboys on 27 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: the road, no matter what you do against Elliott by 28 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: only kicking field. So but that was the starting point 29 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: for the Saints, no question. I think there's a lot 30 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: of things. You know, Mike Petton has been asked about it. 31 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: The Packers defensive tackles have been asked about it, the linebackers, 32 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 1: everybody really on the defense has been, you know, really 33 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: been trying to put a finger on what's going on 34 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: with the run defense and what they need to do. 35 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: But as we've talked about a number of times, Mike, 36 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: for the Saints, it wasn't that they just sold out 37 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: and they were doing five man defensive jumbo fronts or 38 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: anything like that. They just executed their system well. They 39 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: had eyes fill gaps, and they just didn't allow those 40 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: holes to open up. That Elliott can burn you. With 41 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: the Packers, it's gonna be very difficult to hold them 42 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: to eighteen carries for thirty five yards again in a fumble. 43 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: But if you can contain that quiet storm that that 44 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: Elliott presents, that's going to be your key to victory 45 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: in this one. It's so interesting how this matchup sets 46 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: up in that respect as far as the Packers run 47 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: defense against Elliott, because Elliott weeks two and three was 48 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: well over a hundred yards and both of those games 49 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: high yards per carry, all that really productive. Then suddenly 50 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: week four he gets completely shut down by the Saints. 51 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: You look at the Packers run defense, only forty six 52 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: yards rushing by the Chicago Bears in week one, look 53 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: like the Packers are off to a great start in 54 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: that area. Then Dalvin Cook breaks the seventy five yard 55 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: or in week two, you kind of go oh a 56 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: little bit. And then weeks three and four, the Denver 57 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: Broncos and the Philadelphia Eagles didn't have any of those big, 58 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: monster explosive runs, but they just kept pounding away on 59 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: the ground against the Packers defensive front and they were 60 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: having success doing it. So it's as though Ezekiel Elliott 61 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: and the Packers run defense are both coming into this 62 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: game knowing what they can do, but yet feeling like 63 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: they have something to prove. Yeah, mortal. I mean the 64 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: fact that it's just and that's the realization you have 65 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 1: to have with this league. You're just not going to 66 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: dominate every single week. The guys who do are the 67 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: ones that are the m v P candidates that you 68 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: know they have that season where they're just impenetrable. Uh. 69 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: That that's just is so rare to accomplish that though 70 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 1: in the best and the most elite all pros and 71 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: the league don't always just play sixteen straight clean games. 72 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: The big challenge here, I think though, for Dallas is 73 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: seeing what this offensive line is gonna look like. Now, 74 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: certainly Travis Frederick Zack Martin two of the best that 75 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: do it in the game, and the interior line, but 76 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: if you don't have Ron Smith in depend depending on 77 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: exactly how this all works out with Loell Collins, that's 78 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: a big change, because as good as Elliott is, and 79 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: he's exceptional, he could probably still pick up a hundred 80 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: yards with West hotqwits blocking form at left guard. But 81 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: here's the thing that's oppressive about it is that they've 82 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: been able to marry for so many years even going 83 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: back to the DeMarco Murray era mary their offensive line 84 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: and that being a strength of their entire team with 85 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: having a good every down back. If you throw a 86 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: few little wrenches into the equation like that, with those 87 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: questions at tackle, that's you know, a potential area where 88 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: the Packers could capitalize. Yeah, the reports that have been 89 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: out from Dallas are that to Ron Smith, the all 90 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: pro left tackle, is going to miss this game. Lyle 91 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: Collins at right tackle, even though he hasn't practiced Wednesday 92 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: or Thursday leading into the game, reports are that he 93 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: is still going to play. But again, you know, these 94 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: are these are the kinds of things that you don't 95 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: really necessarily know for sure until game day and until 96 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: that inactive list is officially turned in. But I'm with you, 97 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: I'm really curious to see, depending on, you know, how 98 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: this works out with the Pack the Cowboys, excuse me, 99 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: and their offensive tackles, what that does to u to 100 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: their offense and potentially their game plan. I mean, the 101 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: reports out of Dallas also that Amari Cooper, their number 102 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: one wide receiver, going to play, but not necessarily at 103 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: um you know, dealing with I think it's an ankle 104 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: injury if I'm not what's on the injury report. So 105 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: there's a lot of a lot of uncertainty. Yeah, ankle, Okay, 106 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: So there there's there is a lot of uncertainty with 107 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: with what's going on with some of the big name 108 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: players in this game, not only for the Packers, but 109 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys as well. Yeah, I mean the Cowboys. 110 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: One thing we probably haven't talked enough about this week 111 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: is that the Cowboys injury report is pretty extensive as well, 112 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: because even with you know, Michael Gallup potentially being back. 113 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: You mentioned the issues that Amari Cooper is playing with 114 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: now again Cooper was a full participant on Thursday, But 115 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: these are the type of injuries might that when you 116 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: get those lower body extremity, that's gonna affect you. It's 117 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: gonna affect your outes, it's gonna affect how you cut it, 118 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: you know, in your roads or it doesn't take much 119 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: to reaggravate something. That's the That's the other thing too, 120 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: And the thing about Gallup is looking at him in 121 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: particular for the Cowboys, they don't really have I think 122 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: another guy that's sort of does what he does in 123 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: that offense. So the tight end position you know, Jason 124 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: Witten is going to be there, but Jason Witten is 125 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: in Jason Witten from seven years ago. So you need 126 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: those young guns to sort of carry you and to 127 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: be able to marry the past game with what Zeke 128 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: Elliott does. Those are all things that we're gonna have 129 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: to answer. But more than anything else, Mike, seeing how 130 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott can handle this whole situation. Off to a 131 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: great start to his season, certainly, I know the contract 132 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: questions have been out there for him. But you know, 133 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 1: if the Packers do you know, sell out to you know, 134 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: put an extra guy in the box, putting another inside 135 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: linebacker on the field, if they do all those things 136 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: to attack Zeke Elliott, well, then how is Prescott going 137 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: to handle those things as well? All the different factors 138 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: that you've got to take into account of game like this. Yeah, well, 139 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: on the other side of the ball, for the Packers 140 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: keys to victory on the offensive side, I'm not sure 141 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: what you think, West, but to me, it all starts 142 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: with Aaron Jones, And I say that for a few 143 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: different reasons. Yes, the Packers they didn't run the ball 144 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: very well against Philadelphia, but they put up all kinds 145 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: of yards, four twenty two passing yards, almost five d 146 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: total yards in the game. You know, yes, they missed 147 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: on you know, some red zone opportunities. Matt Lafleur made 148 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: the comment the other day that if you can run 149 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: the ball in the red zone, you usually end up 150 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: being more efficient down there in terms of scoring points. 151 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: That's something the Packers need to do. But in a 152 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: more general sense, at the time we're taping this, we 153 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: don't have a final word on Davantae Adams or Jamal 154 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: Williams and their injury status for this game. But I 155 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: think a lot of this offensively for the Packers is 156 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: going to come down to Aaron Jones, because if you 157 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: don't have Davante Adams, you're losing that number one guy, 158 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: your Pro Bowl, Pro Bowl receiver. And I've said this 159 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,119 Speaker 1: inn Insider in Box, I said it on our Final 160 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: Thoughts video. You need to be able to get a 161 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: play action game going. And the way to get a 162 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: play action game going obviously is to run the ball effectively. 163 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: But the reason play action is so important, at least 164 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: in my mind, and this is not to disparage Marquez, 165 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: Velda Scantling, Geronimo Alice and Jake Kumar, any of those guys. 166 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: But the facts are none of those guys are pro bowlers. 167 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: They aren't at Davante Adams level. And to me, play 168 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: action passing is your equal opportunity passing game. If it's working, 169 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter who the receiver is. You don't 170 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: need a pro bowler to get open in a play 171 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: action game. If your play action game is effective, the 172 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 1: running game is effective to set that up, any receiver, 173 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: any tight end, can get open in that scenario when 174 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: everything is working together. And that's why I think this 175 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: game starts if Davanta Adams cannot play. I think this 176 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: game starts with Aaron Jones. Yeah. And and to be 177 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: honest with you, Mike, even if Davanta Adams does go, 178 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: I think Aaron Jones is going to be the primary 179 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: objective with the Packers because he is your biggest playmaker, 180 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: your biggest healthy playmaker that's available to you. And the 181 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: other thing about Aaron Jones too, And he's not going 182 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: to say this, but you know, I know him the 183 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: way that he's wired. You know, he's very polite, he's 184 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: very nice, but he's also credibly competitive. In the last 185 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: two weeks it's been difficult for him trying to get 186 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: going on the ground. He wants to be able to 187 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: be in every down back. I think we saw in 188 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: that those matchups earlier this month. I mean the game 189 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: against Chicago. I mean, he's a guy that feels like 190 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: he can carry the ball and be effective when he's 191 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: given the opportunity and can can handle that three down 192 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: go out there and get him kind of roll. But 193 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: the other aspect to this that I look at when 194 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: you say your key to victory for the Packers, it's 195 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. We don't know what Davante Adam status is 196 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: going to be. We don't know what he's gonna be 197 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: like if he does play. We don't know what Brian 198 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: Bulaga is going to be dealing with if he's out 199 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: there with the shoulder. Aaron Rodgers is the two time 200 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: m v P. He's the guy that has a sterling 201 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: track record inside AT and T Stadium and knows rod 202 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: Marinelli's defense probably as well as any quarterback in the 203 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: NFL with how much he's seen it. Aaron Rodgers needs 204 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: to be spectacular. It's a road game, it's a three 205 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: and one ball club. You need him to be at 206 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: his absolute best because last week, Mike, they weren't able 207 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: to get the running game going for most of the game. 208 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: He didn't have Davante Adams at the end of the game, 209 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: but he spread the ball around. They moved the ball 210 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: effectively four and two passing yards and they he put 211 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: that team, while they did not come out with the win, 212 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: he put them in a position to win that football game. 213 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: They need another performance again like that against a Dallas 214 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: Cowboys defense that honestly, I would say is even a 215 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: step up from what they saw against the Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah, 216 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: and you mentioned obviously the track record record of success. 217 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has an a T and T stadium. He's 218 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: put up some phenomenal numbers. There had some great dramatic moments. 219 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: We talked about some of those on yesterday's show. Aaron 220 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: Jones game in Dallas his rookie year, that was kind 221 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: of his coming out party, so to speak. To to 222 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: use an overused phrase, but the you know, Packers, Packers 223 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: fans didn't necessarily know exactly what they had in Aaron Jones. 224 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: And then that game in Dallas in October of that year, 225 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: he went over a hundred yards. He made a couple 226 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: of key plays on the final drive to to get 227 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: the Packers in position for the winning touchdown. He really 228 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: was the star of the game offensively for Green Bay there. 229 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: And uh, and you know he's from Texas. You know, 230 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: the Texas l passos where he went to college and everything. 231 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: He feels at home when he plays there, So you know, 232 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: you know his his eyes are going to be bright. 233 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: He's gonna be really excited for this one storytime with 234 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 1: west Hodkowitz here. Okay, I don't know if you recall this, Mike, 235 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: but in two thousand seventeen, the regular season opener, Aaron 236 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 1: Jones was a healthy scratch. Davante Mays was the third 237 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: running back behind Time Montgomery and Jamal Williams. There was 238 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: a real question. This is one of the reasons why 239 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: I wrote the Dexter Williams story this week. There was 240 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: a real question about whether or not Jones could be 241 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: an every down guy or if he was just a 242 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: guy you would be able to run the ball with. 243 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: And at that time, I thought that game against Dallas 244 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: showed that this guy was more. He was a complete 245 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: running back and he had what it takes to actually 246 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: round out his game to be featured in that role. 247 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: This is the season I think everybody's expecting Aaron Jones 248 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: to really blossom because he has the experience in his 249 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: back pocket. He's only twenty four, he's athletic as heck. 250 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: In a game like this, if you can get going 251 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: again on the road against the Dallas Cowboys, what a 252 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: statement that would be, especially when you don't have that 253 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: that check, that counter that you typically have in your 254 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: back pocket. With Jamal Williams another guy too, Danny Vitally 255 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: is going to be interesting to watch in this game. 256 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: I was talking to John Coon about him yesterday and 257 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: this game definitely seems tailored because even if it is 258 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: Dexter Williams or whoever the backup is going to be 259 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: if Jamal Williams doesn't go, Danny Vitali is the most 260 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: experienced guy in that room right now in terms of 261 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: NFL years. He got his first carry last week, would 262 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: not surprise me if you see him get a couple more. 263 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: And also being able to integrate the passing game three 264 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: catches over the last two games. That's another aspect to 265 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: this that if you can put those plays out there, 266 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to account for. Yeah, well, one thing 267 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: that has definitely been a trademark. I guess if you 268 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: want to say, of these recent Packers Cowboys games at 269 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: a T and T stage, um there have been major 270 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: momentum shifts teams. Either team can get on a run. 271 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: You look at the ten playoff game down there, the 272 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,599 Speaker 1: Packers jumped out, you know, built the big lead, and 273 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: then it was the Cowboys coming back from two touchdowns 274 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: down in the fourth quarter. The regular season game in 275 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: seventeen almost the reverse in the sense the Cowboys were 276 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: the ones who were in the lead. The Packers were 277 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: coming from behind in the fourth quarter and end up 278 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: scoring the winning touchdown at the end. There's something to 279 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: these games where you you have to be able to 280 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: handle the momentum shifts and just always know, hey, it's 281 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: a four quarter game, it's a sixty minute game. Something 282 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: goes wrong and the crowd for Dallas starts going crazy 283 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: and whatever, you just have to weather. You've got to 284 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: weather the storm, you limit the damage, and you live to, 285 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: you know, to play another play. The Packers have done 286 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: that really well in this stadium, and I think they're 287 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: gonna have to do it again because these these games, 288 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: just these games can swing wildly back and forth for 289 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: some reason when these two teams get together very much so, 290 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: especially in that particular stadium. It's very interesting though, too, 291 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: because while there are a couple of veterans on the 292 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: team that have good memories of coming up here and 293 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: to Green Bay and playing the party spoiler a few 294 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: seasons ago, there are we talked about the Packers and 295 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: in their experience down there, there's a lot of guys 296 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: on Dallas's roster still that very bitter aftertaste from some 297 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: of those games. The sixteen game was interesting because I 298 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: still feel like even though the Dallas did score late, 299 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: that was the most complete performance they had had the 300 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: Packers they did just being able to get off to 301 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: the fast start. They really didn't leave any doubt. They're 302 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: they were flying high after that win against the Giants, 303 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: and they made a statement at first half those other 304 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: two games, Mike, if you really boil it down, the 305 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: Packers probably had no business waiting either of them at halftime. 306 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: We're honestly three. You had Matt Flynn and there that 307 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: shouldn't happen. Everybody thought that game was you know, Eddie 308 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: Lacey was dealing with some ankle issues that you know, 309 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: I think people didn't really understand what he was playing 310 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: through and they still did it. They willed themselves to 311 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: those victories. That's the part of it that if I'm 312 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: the Packers and I want to be leary of going 313 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: into this, you you got to start fast. You do 314 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: not want to be in that position again, because there's 315 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: gonna be a handful of really significant players on that 316 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: Dallas defense that if they get a lead, they're not 317 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: gonna want to give it back. They're gonna want to 318 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: make sure that they stay up on themselves for sixty 319 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: minutes and be able to come up with a much 320 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: needed victory after kind of a reality check in New Orleans. Yeah, well, 321 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: what we also like to do before we wrap up 322 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: for the week is take a look at what else 323 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: is going on in the NFL. And I'm gonna jump 324 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: over Thursday night football. I want I got to talk 325 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: about this, talk about it happened to claim Matthews again. 326 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: It actually happened to claim Matthews again. How does this happen? 327 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just I don't mean to jump over it, 328 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: but like I'm watching this game right, I'm I'm laying 329 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: down on my college and eating some popcorn and just 330 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: kind of checking this thing out. I just don't get it. 331 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: Like maybe it's Russell Wilson, and if it would have 332 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: been Andy Dalton, no one would have cared. But like 333 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: the fact that Matthews again makes a football play. He 334 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: didn't lead with this hel, many didn't hit him with 335 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: this hel Maty throws his shoulder and to him and 336 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: they throw the flag. Clay Matthews, dude, Like when this 337 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: thing is all said and done, he's gonna be like 338 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: the poster child for like the real sensitive quarterback era 339 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: at the NFL. And it all started because of some 340 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: play that happened to be committed against Aaron Rodgers. It's yeah, 341 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: the rest of the game was great. It was very entertaining. 342 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: I have to admit I missed the game. I only 343 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: watched the highlights. I did not see the highlight of 344 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: the Clay Matthews place. So now you're gonna have me 345 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: going back and searching to have two kids. Right your 346 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: kid ever like fall off the like swing or like 347 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: accedentally run into a door or something like that. Did 348 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: you take the door down? I mean, like, it's just 349 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: it's incredible to me that it's like to to reiterate 350 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: the play for people who didn't see it. I mean, 351 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: Wilson is out of the pocket. There are certain protections 352 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: that are there or not there when you're out of 353 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: the pocket. Throws the past, does Matthews Should Matthews have 354 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: held up? Sure, but he threw his shoulder into him 355 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: and on the very ex play, Matthews seemed to indicate, Yeah, 356 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: you did some nice acting on that to be able 357 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: to actually draw that flag out of it. Well, Wilson's 358 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: been doing that his whole career. We know that they 359 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: were able to continue to the drive from there, they 360 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: end up pulling off. I guess you could call it 361 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: a come back. It was a back and forth game, 362 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: but that was the game deciding drive and unfortunately, again 363 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: affected by what I felt like, I think Twitter felt 364 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: like it was a very unnecessary penalty. Yeah, well there 365 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: that game circumstance wise, very similar to Packers Cowboys because 366 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: that was to three and one teams and now the 367 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: Seattle Sea X Now that's a division game, so it 368 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: has even bigger implications as far as the NFC West 369 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: is concerned. But now the Seattle Seahawks four and one, 370 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: the defending NFC champion Los Angeles Rams at three and two, 371 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 1: and they're on a two game losing streak because they 372 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: gave up a whole bunch of points to the Tampa 373 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers a week ago. So so the three and 374 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: oh start for the Rams kind of been undone a 375 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: little bit. And that's exactly what the Packers and Cowboys 376 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: are hoping to avoid, is to not feel like you're 377 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: three and o jump out the gate. Great start gets 378 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: completely turned around on you in two weeks. Yeah, it's 379 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: incredible how that stuff happens. Russell Wilson is off to 380 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: an m v P type season right now. He's been exceptional. 381 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: Uh that penalty notwithstanding, it was really difficult that touchdown 382 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: pass early in the game. The highlight I saw the 383 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: one Tyler Lockett caught in the back corner. I mean, 384 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: are you are you kidding me? That was that was phenomenal. Yeah, 385 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: And to be honest, to be fair to Jared Goff, 386 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: he made a couple of great throws in this game. 387 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: To him and Cooper Cup they're on a different level 388 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: right now. But unfortunately they lost Brandon Cooks midway through 389 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,719 Speaker 1: and they just weren't able to make the play when 390 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: they needed too late. In Russell Wilson man, when you 391 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,479 Speaker 1: go into that stadium, you have to be able to 392 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: play percent. You have to make sure everything goes correct 393 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: for you, and it didn't quite work out for them well. 394 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: In the NFC North in week five, the games to 395 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: take a look at really intriguing one going on out 396 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: in the meadow lands, as they say, East Rutherford, New Jersey. 397 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: The Minnesota Vikings taking their show on the road to 398 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: the New York Giants. Now they are all these questions 399 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: as to whether Sae Kwon Barkley is going to be 400 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: able to play or not for the Giants with his 401 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: I believe it's an ankle injury. And the Minnesota Vikings 402 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 1: are at two and two. They've looked like world beaters 403 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: at home, they've looked extremely mortal on the road, and 404 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: they're going on the road now for a second straight week, 405 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: and all kinds of questions going on with Kirk Cousins 406 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: and where he's at, and Stefon Diggs and him raising 407 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: all kinds of questions about how much he even wants 408 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: to be there and be part of this offense, and 409 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: how much it's focused on Dalvin Cook and everything, and 410 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: the Giants have turned around a slow start by by 411 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 1: turning things over to their rookie first round draft pick 412 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: at quarterback in Daniel Jones. This is a really intriguing 413 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: Week five, Game two in my mind, between a couple 414 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: of two and two teams. Intriguing on a number of levels. 415 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: First and foremost, Daniel Jones has just injected just enough 416 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: of just enough chaos into that offense that you know 417 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: you it's a different dimension than what they had with 418 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: Eli Manning. And with all due respect to Elis had 419 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: a remarkable career, it was pretty boiler plate near the 420 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: end in terms of what you were getting, what you 421 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: need to scheme for or Jones turns all of that 422 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: on its head right now. And also credit to Wayne Gelman. 423 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: I mean, so much is based on Barkley, but Gelman 424 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: came in and did a lot of the same things 425 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: they asked Barkley to do. Now, he's not as explosive, 426 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: but he can catch the ball and he was effective 427 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 1: enough with the run. Had a nice little performance. We'll 428 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: have to see how things shake out with his neck. 429 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: The biggest storyline though of this matchup is Kirk Cousins 430 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: needs to get going against this new New York Giants. 431 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: Defense Giants right now, I mean they Daniel Jones is 432 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: scoring a lot of points, are doing a lot of 433 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: nice things offensively. Their defense has been a sieve at 434 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: this point. If Kirk Cousins in this offense can't get 435 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: going against the Giants, that's gonna be a major red 436 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: flag from Minnesota going forward. All right. And the Chicago Bears, 437 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: who are tied with the Packers at three and one 438 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: at the moment, they are on the road in London 439 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: against the Oakland Raiders. The Bears have still having some 440 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: some injury issues. You know, you don't know for sure 441 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: what's going on with quarterback and a chem Hicks on 442 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: their defensive line dealing with some stuff. And then there's 443 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 1: all whatever has been going on with ro Quan Smith 444 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: and and his personal issues. But the Bears heading to 445 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: London to play a Raiders team that's that's found some 446 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: life recently as well, another really interesting matchup. I always 447 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: feel like you never really know what's going to happen 448 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: in London, and these teams dealing with the travel and 449 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: everything else. Obviously, the Bears are gonna have their bye week, 450 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: I believe after the London trips so um, they're looking 451 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: to get to their bye week at four and one. Yeah, 452 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be you're basically wondering what form of 453 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: the Raiders you're gonna get. They've been very on different 454 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: sides of the spectrum here so far. Early on. I 455 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 1: really like their young running back, but offensively there are 456 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: question marks, and defensively certainly gonna have to be adjustments 457 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: without Vontes perfect, you know, in the middle of that defense. 458 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: I really liked what I saw from the Bears last week. 459 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 1: Though Mike I've always been a big Chase Daniel fan. 460 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: I feel like he's a highly For as much money 461 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: as I think he's made in this league, I still 462 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: feel like he's a highly underrated quarterback. He's never really 463 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: had that true chance to be a starter. The two 464 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: times that it was allegedly there, the stack was already 465 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: kind of against him because you know, Carson Wentz and 466 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: different things of that nature. We'll see if what happens 467 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: with Rabisky, but I really do think if the Bears 468 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: need to win some games here, Chase Daniels the quarterback 469 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: to help them get that done. And yeah, if you 470 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: go in there and you get that win in London 471 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 1: over Raiders and go in your bye week. I think 472 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: you're feeling pretty good about where you're at it. Four 473 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: and one in four consecutive victories. Yeah, real quickly. Another 474 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: one I want to ask you about because Washington in 475 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: New England. No, because we talked all week about what 476 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: the Saints did against the Dallas Cowboys and completely shutting 477 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: them down. And in the NFC South now the Saints 478 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: will be hosting the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who put up 479 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: fifty five points against the defending NFC champion l A 480 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: Rams last week. Is Jamis Winston and Bruce Arians Is 481 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: this is this working? Is what we saw last week 482 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: a sign of things to come? Or was it a 483 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: one off? In the New Orleans Saints will just get 484 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: down to business here at home in a division Game's 485 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: a good question because I think early on. I don't 486 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: know the last time I would have said this, but 487 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: I honestly think New Orleans defense is probably a step 488 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: ahead of where Los Angeles is right now. They just 489 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: they have more playmakers there, They don't break down as much, 490 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: and it's just so hard for me to believe that 491 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 1: any defense with Aaron Donald would give up fifty five points, like, 492 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: I just don't I just don't know. Granted, I think 493 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: there was a defensive score in there, maybe even two. 494 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: But even if you, I mean, that's still forty plus 495 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: points um against the Los Angeles Rams defense that was 496 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: pretty darn good and helped get them to the Super Bowl. 497 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: Last up front, I think there's still really solid. I 498 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: just think there's big questions with that secondary right now, 499 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: and and who the go two guys are gonna be 500 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: and who's gonna step up. As far as Tampa Bay 501 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: is concern, I think Tom Moore is there too right now. 502 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: I think like the seventy eight year old quarterback guru 503 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: that worked with Peyton Manning. I think so there's just 504 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: so many resources that they've brought in. I thought we 505 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: just that was the first game where it's like, Okay, 506 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,479 Speaker 1: this is the Bruce Aaron's imprint on this team. It's 507 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: a new day, so to speak. Yeah, that's what it 508 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: felt like. The question is is we've seen these moments 509 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: from Jameis Winston and there was I mean, you go 510 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: back to the Knox here, there was a lot of 511 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: thought that this could be a playoff contending team. Can 512 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: you do it consistently can you keep bringing it in 513 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: a lot of same ways. It's the same question that 514 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota is going to have to answer in Tennessee 515 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: after you start he's off to Absolutely. This is a 516 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: great litmus test though, especially coming off of that performance 517 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: that the Saints had against Um Elliott and Deak Prescott. Yeah, 518 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: I think there's that's definitely some interesting games, some some 519 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: key division, a key division matchup there in the NFC 520 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: really didn't want to talk about New England and Washington 521 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: break down that excess and OS not really not really 522 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: sleeping it out there. Okay, we're going to call it 523 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: a wrap on this edition of Packers on Script. Would 524 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: be sure to follow all of our coverage of the 525 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: team on Packers dot com. A quick programming note, our 526 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: producer Marvin will not be available to us on Monday, 527 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: so our show wrapping up the Dallas game will not 528 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: be taped until Tuesday, So we have to take a 529 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: day off next week and we'll get things started with 530 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: our series of shows next week on Tuesday. Just so 531 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: everybody is aware. But with that, you can still subscribe 532 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: to us and like us on iTunes and other podcast 533 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: services and find him on Twitter at west hot I'm 534 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: at Mike Spofford at Packers for the team account. Thanks 535 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: for tuning in, everybody. We'll see you next time.