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Speaker 1: and I want to begin by thanking the Dallas Mavericks

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Speaker 1: Pick up your home version of the game on the

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Speaker 1: way out, and you know, Josh Green, Chris Wood, Christian Wood,

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Speaker 1: you'll have plenty of time to continue to rest what

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Speaker 1: because Dallas, you're going to take your turn in the bear.

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Speaker 1: I'm coming after your heart. And I like Mark Cuban

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Speaker 1: actually interviewed him once in his office November nineteenth, two

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Speaker 1: thousand and five. Great guy, But tonight, Mark, you're taking

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Speaker 1: the movie Air Air Movie, you know, Matt Damon, Ben Affleck,

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Speaker 1: I get back to Dallas. Most of my listening audience tonight,

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Speaker 1: Because the Hank Aaron was one of the most elegant

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Speaker 1: great opportunity back in nineteen ninety one. My boss, Mike Burkas,

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Speaker 1: But back to you are beloved Dallas Mavericks. Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: You know, on February eighth, when the Mavericks acquired some

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Speaker 1: drift same situation. Playing hard is just desired. Defense is desired.

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Speaker 1: Those guys don't play a liquid defense. They were doomed.

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Speaker 1: much more delicious. The Brooklyn Nets made the playoffs. Kyrie's

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Speaker 1: Back to Jason Kidd, you're complicit two because if you

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Speaker 1: He didn't play tonight Kyrie because of his foot. MAXI

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Speaker 1: He doesn't. Dallas was looking to lose, and if you

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Speaker 1: both shoot the worst possible bricks possible? That's the department

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Speaker 1: believe that he would do this allegedly, Okay, allegedly, and

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Speaker 1: I guess his methodology. He wants to improve the franchise's

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Speaker 1: a second round of the tank. Job makes sense because

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Speaker 1: I guess faulty logic. Mavericks players don't believe they would

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Speaker 1: Why don't you play the game? And so the trade deadline,

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Speaker 1: they're bringing Kyrie Irving. Who you look up controversy in

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Speaker 1: but I think there's story rights itself. On February eighth,

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Speaker 1: Somewhere Nick Cancoon is standing behind the bench saying Cancoon

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Speaker 1: you will know, Larry, you played for some of the

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Speaker 1: smartest managers ever. Let's take Whitey Herzog, probably three inches

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Speaker 1: ahead of everybody. I just think all this technology even

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Speaker 1: to the fields and makes dumb players smarter. That's why

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Speaker 1: I said what I said. Well, I think that there's

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Speaker 1: something to be said for taking away from the drama

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Speaker 1: of the moment. And you know, there are some situations

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Speaker 1: where you want to stay. Has everybody had enough time

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Speaker 1: to analyze this particular situation, this particular pitch. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's when when hitters are standing in outside of the

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Speaker 1: box or inside the box and they're doing their gloves

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Speaker 1: and everything, there is some thinking going on. I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to say that every hitter that did that his

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Speaker 1: mind was whirling at computer pace. Or a pitcher. When

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Speaker 1: he walked around behind the mound, he was always thinking

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Speaker 1: all the all the intense thoughts that you have to

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Speaker 1: to prepare yourself for the next pitch. But I know

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Speaker 1: when I stepped back behind the rubber. The only time

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Speaker 1: I did it was when I needed a minute to

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Speaker 1: regroup and say, Okay, I just threw two pitches high

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Speaker 1: and inside with my ball that's supposed to be sinking

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Speaker 1: down and into the right handed hitter. What am I

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00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: doing wrong? What do I have to get back to?

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Speaker 1: And I had my own mental cues that I'd say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: get your elbow up. You know, you got to get

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Speaker 1: on top and get the ball down, throw downhill. And

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Speaker 1: those were the times that you're going to have to

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Speaker 1: be a little bit and process a little bit quicker.

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Speaker 1: And when there are men out based and it's a

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Speaker 1: one run ball game and it's the end of the game, yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe we come up with some plan for that to

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Speaker 1: allow for it. I don't know what the answer is.

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Speaker 1: Wrapping it up with Larry Sarnceince, Larry, I committed my

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Speaker 1: own pitch clock violation. I've only got about a minute,

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Speaker 1: but I want to give you time to tell the

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Speaker 1: folks about the revolutionary ball you're working on and how

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Speaker 1: far it's progressed. Hey, checkout pitchlogic dot com. We've got

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Speaker 1: a baseball that has a circuit board inside that gives

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Speaker 1: you all the current data that you get from some

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Speaker 1: of the other stationary devices that are out there. It's

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Speaker 1: very very accurate. You throw the ball, it connects by

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Speaker 1: Bluetooth to your telephone and it gives you armsplot spin

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Speaker 1: rates as well as velocity of course the easy ones,

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Speaker 1: but all the different types of spin. It's got video incorporated,

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Speaker 1: so you can actually film yourself with your cell phone

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Speaker 1: or your iPad and any our device and see the

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Speaker 1: video of yourself throwing and all the numbers that go

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Speaker 1: along with it. Extremely popular anywhere from thirteenth too. We

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Speaker 1: got a lot about major leaguers that use it. We

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Speaker 1: just signed Clay Holmes and Anthony Bath as our spokesman

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Speaker 1: for the product and pitch logic dot com. It's the website.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff, Larry. Let's get you on later in the summer.

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Speaker 1: We'll give you more time to talk about the ball

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Speaker 1: and the various levels where it's being used. But hey,

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Speaker 1: good luck this year in the acc and thanks for

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Speaker 1: coming on. Always a pleasure talking with you, Bernie. Thanks Larry,

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Speaker 1: Right back, Hatch. It's Larry Sorens and tenure major leaguer

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Speaker 1: retired nine straight guys in the seventy eight All Star Game.

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Speaker 1: You can google him. He had quite a nice career

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Speaker 1: in a long time broadcaster. All right, Coming up, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to give you my movie review of Air, the

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Speaker 1: movie with Matt Damon and Ben Affleck, the story of

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Speaker 1: Sony Vicara in his pursuit of Michael Jordan Nike back

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Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty four. It hit me on so many levels,

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Speaker 1: not the least of which are a multiple life lessons.

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Speaker 1: I'll share those coming up. At first, let's go to

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Speaker 1: our guy, Kevin Figures with the ladies. All right, Bernie, Well,

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Speaker 1: the NBA play and schedule is set. Well, the Eastern

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Speaker 1: Conference playing is said, still a little bit question marks

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Speaker 1: around the Western Conference. Will get to that in a second.

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Speaker 1: But on Tuesday, we know Atlanta will head to South

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Speaker 1: Beach to face Miami. The Hawks lost to Philadelphia Friday night,

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Speaker 1: one thirty six to one thirty one, while the Heat

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Speaker 1: failed to Washington. So next Wednesday, the Raptors will host

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Speaker 1: the Bulls and the other play in Chicago did defeat

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Speaker 1: Dallas on Friday, while the Raptors are blown out by Boston.

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Speaker 1: Dallas officially eliminated from playoff contention with that loss. Elsewhere

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Speaker 1: You're at, the Lakers defeat the Suns, who didn't suit

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Speaker 1: up any of their star players. Warriors hammered Sacramento, who

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Speaker 1: also sat a lot of their key starters. Nets beat Orlando,

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Speaker 1: I should say the Nets, beating Orlando one on one

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Speaker 1: to eighty four. They clinched the six seat in a

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Speaker 1: first round matchup with Philadelphia. Major League Baseball, Arizona defeated

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Speaker 1: Clayton Kershaw on the Dodgers six to three. Evan Longoria

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Speaker 1: three hits in the home run Toronto over the Angels

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Speaker 1: four to three, spoiling their home opener, who had victories

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Speaker 1: for Washington, Milwaukee and Tampa Bay who improved to seven

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Speaker 1: and oh with a nine to five victory over Oakland.

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Speaker 1: Second round with the Master suspended due to a weather

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Speaker 1: where the brooks Kepka, the current leader at twelve under

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Speaker 1: for the tournament. He was able to finish his round.

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Speaker 1: John rom three strokes back, but has only played half

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Speaker 1: of his round so far. Tiger, What's two over through eleven.

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Speaker 1: As of now, the cut line is projected to be

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Speaker 1: too over par Back to Bernie Freddo all right, thanks Kevin,

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Speaker 1: good stuff, buddy, all right. I saw the movie Air

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Speaker 1: Air the movie Thursday. I wasted no time, partly because

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Speaker 1: I know so much about the story. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: see how they told it. And make no mistake, they

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Speaker 1: use the power of story in bringing to you what

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Speaker 1: is truly a feel good saga. And I want to

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Speaker 1: digress for just a second and retail the Hank Aaron's stories.

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Speaker 1: It's April eighth, a round the country right now and

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Speaker 1: just about every time zone except the left coast, so

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Speaker 1: most of my listening audience is now April eighth, and

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Speaker 1: that means it's the forty nine year anniversary of Hank

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Speaker 1: Aaron hitting and run number seven to fifteen, passing Babe Ruth. Well,

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Speaker 1: as you well know, Hank Aaron's become a national treasurer.

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Speaker 1: But what he had to go through to have that

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Speaker 1: happen is almost unbelievable because I, you know, I talked

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Speaker 1: to Hank. We we spent half an afternoon together at

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Speaker 1: the nineteen ninety one twelfth National Sports Collector's Convention, Mike Purkis.

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Speaker 1: It was the promoter. I was his business partner, a

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Speaker 1: marketing from PTS and it was great. It was who's

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Speaker 1: who the people. So Hank was just a just an

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Speaker 1: elegant man. And I asked him, I said, you know,

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Speaker 1: how did you you know, how did you deal with that?

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Speaker 1: You know, all the indignities, the hate mail, the racial slurs,

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00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:51,239
Speaker 1: the absolute you know, the death threats, you name it,

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00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: the indignities. And he said, well, you know that wasn't

545
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Speaker 1: the worst you ever deal with us in his life,

546
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: because when he was in the old minor leagues in

547
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: the nineteen fifties, everything was segregated and they'd go through

548
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: towns and they couldn't eat with the team and such.

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00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: But this one particular city they did. And I want

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Speaker 1: to say it was in Birmingham, but I don't want

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00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: to be wrong. All I know is I remember the

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00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: essence of this story. It doesn't matter where it was.

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Speaker 1: But they finished eating and as they were filing out,

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Speaker 1: they heard the white staff smashing dishes against the wall,

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00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,239
Speaker 1: smashing dishes against the wall, and hand Karen said he

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00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: heard it and he knew exactly what was happening, and

557
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: he said, would really bother him and hurt him because

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00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: had dogs eating off those dishes, they would have simply

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00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: washed them. That's what that man had to endure. Now,

560
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: where am I going with this? Because you will find

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00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: out truly what this team had to endure to get

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Speaker 1: just to get a meeting with Michael Jordan and make

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Speaker 1: what happened happen. And what's interesting, You know you're watching

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00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: a good movie when you know the ending, but there's

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00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: still much so much tension you're not if you couldn't

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Speaker 1: be sure you're going to get the right ending. And

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Speaker 1: I remember back when I first had my very first

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Speaker 1: radio show in nineteen ninety six to one, the first

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Speaker 1: one I ever hosted, created produce. It's called a View

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Speaker 1: from the Chiefs. He's an arbor Michigan WTKA ten fifty

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Speaker 1: Am I still here from people every now and then

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Speaker 1: it listen to that show, Well, that's when the movie

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Speaker 1: Titanic came out and everybody, oh so good, blah blah blah,

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00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: bah blah. I'm not seeing it. Why I don't want

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00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: to see it. It looked stupid to me. And then

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00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: I saw it and I didn't like it. And then

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00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: I went on the air and I said, well I

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00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: saw it, and people were arriding me. They said, I

579
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: thought you said you were gonna see it, Bernie, Well

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00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: I saw it. Well why did you see it if

581
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: you said you were going to see it. Well, I

582
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: didn't think the boat would sink again. That was my

583
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Speaker 1: laugh line, right, you knew the ending and it was

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Speaker 1: this sappy movie. Didn't care for it. Sorry, if I'm

585
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Speaker 1: offending all the people who loved it, you know, Leonardo DiCaprio,

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00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: right on down the line. Okay, Kate winslet have a

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Speaker 1: nice day. Actually, I'm not sorry. I didn't like it,

588
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: but I loved their air of the movie because it

589
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: was so rich in texture, and I believe it will

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Speaker 1: get Academy Award consideration because it spoke to me what

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Speaker 1: we are witnessing is this quest against all odds. If

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00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: you don't believe me, you don't you can't relate to this.

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00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: If you didn't know, maybe that Nike was absolutely the

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00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: bottom of the barrel or a running shoe company. It was,

595
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: you know, Converse was king at the time, and so

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00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: it was Adidas, and George was going to go with

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Speaker 1: one of them. I mean, Sonny of Akara was rebuffed

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00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: at every turn, and it just as you observe the

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00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: movie and you feel this movie, there's a tangible, visceral field.

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Speaker 1: It reminds me I come from a sport baseball, where

601
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: there's failure every fifteen seconds. There was failure, failure, failure, rejection, setback,

602
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: resistance that never ended. In this movie, you felt it.

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00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: And baseball there's failure every fifteen seconds. Right the pitcher

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00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: fails to throw a stripe, they hit her, fails to

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00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: make contact. The fielder fails to make a play, they

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00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: hit her, fails to reach base, and it repeats itself. Well,

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00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: it used to be three hours. Now it's two hours

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00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: and thirty eight minutes. But you get the point until

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00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: somebody wins, which teaches you two things. One failure is

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Speaker 1: never final and two whatever you know, whatever success we

611
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: aspire to have, will be wrought with failure. It's it's

612
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: a natural progression on the road to success. So you

613
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,959
Speaker 1: look what happened to Hank Aaron. You look what happened.

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00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: You look what happens every day in the world of baseball.

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Speaker 1: The third takeaway from the movie is whatever success we

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00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: have in this life will be done within the framework

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00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: of a team. Nobody no one does it by themselves.

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00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: Even the lone Ranger had Tonto. And when you see

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Speaker 1: this team come together, Ben Affleck plays Phil Knight, Matt

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00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: Damon plays Sonny Vicarroll, and you know the marketing characters

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Speaker 1: and the business characters. The financial team had to come together,

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00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: the design team had to come together. David Fought, the

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Speaker 1: agent for Mike Michael Jordan, did everything he could humanly

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Speaker 1: to block Sonny Vicarroll from even getting a meeting with

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00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,239
Speaker 1: Mike Michael Jordan. So we had to take matters into

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00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: his own hands. You'll see what happens if you see

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00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: the movie. But it took a team. It took a

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00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: team to come together at the last minute and when

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Speaker 1: it mattered most, and the pressure was on and the

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00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: heat was hot and it was hard to breathe, this

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Speaker 1: team was at their best. And the movie has such

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00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: a powerful ending and such a feel good It's a

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00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: type of movie Hollywood used to produce. If you felt

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00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: good watching Top Gun last summer, which was the idea.

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00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise only wants to make feel good movies. This

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00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: is that times ted. If you want to feel good,

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Speaker 1: and it's a true story, it's very true. I think

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Speaker 1: there's very little poetical license the user. There's some I mean,

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Speaker 1: they stretch a couple of things, and I don't want

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Speaker 1: to you know, I don't want to pick at it.

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00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: It's like picking on the ward on Lincoln's nose. Right.

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Speaker 1: And as I said, that best compliment I can give

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Speaker 1: this movie is, even though you really do know the ending,

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00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: the way they tell this story and the way they

645
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: get so granular with respect to the setback, rejection, resistance,

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00:33:54,360 --> 00:34:00,719
Speaker 1: you know, at every turn, the obstacles. It creates so

647
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: much tension you're actually sitting in your seat saying, cheeze.

648
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: I wonder if they're really not going to get this deal,

649
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: even though you know, so you know, a movie has

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Speaker 1: done its job, you know. By the way, top of

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Speaker 1: the hour, just a programming note. A good man Ethan.

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00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: He's off back East and he's not with us tonight.

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00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: He's the creator of Bernie's Trivia Game, which we typically

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Speaker 1: do at midnight. So we're gonna take a hiatus. It

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be fair to Ethan. He worked too hard to

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Speaker 1: create the game and he's done a great job as

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Speaker 1: a maestro. So hang type. The game will return and

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00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: we'll have our full twelve weeks. We're four or five

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00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: weeks in, you see the standings. But in lieu of that,

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Speaker 1: what we'll probably do is I typically don't do this.

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00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: I don't do it on my Saturday show. We're gonna

662
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: open up the phone lines tonight at midnight, So if

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Speaker 1: you'd like to talk about the movie, or you'd like

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Speaker 1: to talk about the great Dallas Mavericks, or baseball's rule changes,

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00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: or actually it's going to get to the top of

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Speaker 1: the ar I'm going to get into the Aaron Rodger situation,

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Speaker 1: and as that started to pick up steam, and later

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Speaker 1: in the show, I'm going to dive heavily into Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to share with you comments from from from

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Speaker 1: from some various owners, so you can maybe get an

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Speaker 1: idea what's happening. But the long and the short of

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Speaker 1: it is, the story was told so brilliantly, and it

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Speaker 1: took you behind the scenes and created that tangible, visceral

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Speaker 1: field that you really feel the movie. You feel the rejection,

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Speaker 1: you feel the obstacles and the resistance and and and

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00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: you know all the setbacks, and yet they get home

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00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: and and so once again, through the power of story,

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Speaker 1: which is I believe my stock and trade. You are

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Speaker 1: a delivereredy treat that actually is part of history, that

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Speaker 1: change history, that genuinely changed the world. That is not hyperbole.

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Speaker 1: Once you see the movie, it'll bring up up close

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Speaker 1: and personal, living color how much it truly did change

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Speaker 1: the world. And I think you will agree with me

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00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: and so again. The final thought on that is it

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Speaker 1: follows an old actium of mine. Give me a fact,

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00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: I'll learn it. Tell me the truth. I believe it.

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Speaker 1: But share a great story. It lives in my heart

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Speaker 1: the rest of my life. That is air the movie.

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Speaker 1: Give it up to Matt Damon and Ben Affleck. They

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Speaker 1: did it again. They've bookended goodwill, hunting and everything in

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Speaker 1: between to bring you a heartfelt story that happens to

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Speaker 1: be true. And I think you will feel good when

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Speaker 1: you leave the movie. I want to remind everybody. Tonight

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Speaker 1: I'm Bernie Fradower Company, A live from the Las Vegas,

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Speaker 1: tirat dot com, Fox Sports Radio Studios, don't go away

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Speaker 1: or listening to the Bernie Frado Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 1: Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio apps. Search f

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Speaker 1: SR to listen live back on the Bernie Fratto Show.

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Speaker 1: Come to you live from the Las Vegas Tirac dot

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Speaker 1: com studios Fox Sports Radio. Top of the R. We'll

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Speaker 1: take your calls eight seven to seven, nine and nine

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Speaker 1: on Fox nine nine, six sixty three six nine Open

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Speaker 1: mic night you get my drift, Please have a good

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Speaker 1: subject matter that people will want to hear about. And

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Speaker 1: also top of the R we're gonna get into a

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Speaker 1: lot more stuff tonight is Aaron Rodgers and the Jets.

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Speaker 1: Are they ever gonna get to the altar? I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: tell you. I'm gonna give you some some backstory there

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Speaker 1: and some dates to watch. We'll get to little lemar

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Speaker 1: and Jackson stuff I haven't forgotten. We're gonna get to

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Speaker 1: the NBA tiebreakers, how those work and what we expect

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Speaker 1: to happen this weekend, among other things. And will we

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Speaker 1: visit the baseball rules as well. But first, Patrick, have

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Speaker 1: you seen or will you seen Air of the movie?

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Speaker 1: You know, Bernie, I haven't seen Air the movie yet,

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Speaker 1: but I absolutely really do want to see it. I'm

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Speaker 1: waiting to go see it with my old man. Okay, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: how about you? Will you see the movie? Yes, eventually

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Speaker 1: I will. I don't know if it's something that I

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Speaker 1: want to rush out to the theater and see this weekend,

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Speaker 1: but it definitely something that's on my radar and on

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Speaker 1: the list. So let me stay right here, Kevin. What

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Speaker 1: is your level of of of knowledge and let me

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Speaker 1: maybe that's not the correct word, just a general awareness

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Speaker 1: of how the whole Sonny Vicarrol Michael Jordan Nike situation

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Speaker 1: came to pass. Very elementary knowledge. I actually know Sonny

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Speaker 1: a little bit. He did some work with us locally

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Speaker 1: for years on our local affiliate UM and had been

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Speaker 1: involved with you in the shoe game. But obviously he

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Speaker 1: started with Michael Jordan and the branched off to something

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Speaker 1: to It's a lot more success after that with a

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Speaker 1: lot of other players. So I actually know the post

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Speaker 1: MJ post, Phil Knight Sonny more than I knew about

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Speaker 1: the actual origin, so I'm definitely interested in and how

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Speaker 1: that whole situation got started. Sonny's a great guy. I've

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Speaker 1: met him. I don't know him, but I do know

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Speaker 1: his brother, Jimmy Viccara, who runs his sports book along

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Speaker 1: with Chris Andrews here at the top Point Las Vegas,

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Speaker 1: a couple of Pisburg guys. Sonny is a really interesting guy.

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Speaker 1: You know, long before the McDonald's All Star Game, he

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Speaker 1: created the Dapper Dan Classic back in the seventies, which

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Speaker 1: was the first ever high school national All Star game.

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Speaker 1: He had a lot of great ideas and he had

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Speaker 1: a sort of a homespun common sense about him that

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Speaker 1: he won people over. And look, Matt Damon's admitted, we

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Speaker 1: don't look like our characters, We really don't even necessarily

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00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: act completely like our characters used to, but we give

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Speaker 1: you the same feeling that that character gave you. And

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Speaker 1: I think they did that. Patrick, what would you say,

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Speaker 1: do you know your level of knowledge or awareness of

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Speaker 1: the whole Michael Jordan Nike Sonny of a Carroll situation

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Speaker 1: was well, I mean it's very very basic. Just because

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, I don't want to time time stamp. Myself

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Speaker 1: was a little before my time I was. I was

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Speaker 1: born in the Kobe era, but I do know a

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Speaker 1: little bit of some history with the whole Nike acquiring,

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Speaker 1: you know, mj being like one of the greatest things,

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Speaker 1: you know, will end up becoming like general. It's the

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Speaker 1: reason why we have, you know, the Jordan's and all

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Speaker 1: that good stuff. And I am very well aware of that,

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Speaker 1: and I'm learning more with Sonny Vicarro. So Kevin, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting. You're candid there. You're not going to rush

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Speaker 1: out to see which is fine? Have you heard some things? Maybe?

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Speaker 1: And I know earlier tonight Jason Smith and Mike Carmen

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Speaker 1: catch those guys from seven to eleven money through Friday.

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Speaker 1: The show's a riot. Bottom line is they're not real

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Speaker 1: enthusiastic about it. That's the vibe. By God, have you

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Speaker 1: heard some things, Kevin, or there's some concerns that maybe

775
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: there's too much hype? No, not really, Honestly, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if there's been enough. To be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: I see an ad here or there, but I don't

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Speaker 1: feel like that. There's just this deluge of coverage of

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Speaker 1: the film, at least not that I've seen. And obviously Bernie.

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Speaker 1: This is something we do on a day to day

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Speaker 1: basis working in sports talk radio. So I don't think

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Speaker 1: I've been overwhelmed by the topic by any stretch of

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Speaker 1: the imagination. But it's certainly not something that's, you know,

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Speaker 1: necessarily grabbing me. Is that because of the cast? Is

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Speaker 1: that because you know Ben said that they weren't gonna

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Speaker 1: get Michael Jordan in the film with that have changed

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Speaker 1: things that they found a way to get him in there.

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Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred percent sure, but I'm definitely I'm

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Speaker 1: more than luke warm, But I wouldn't say that I'm

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Speaker 1: fully gung hoole gunghole that makes any sense. Have you

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Speaker 1: talked to anybody who's seen it other than me? I

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Speaker 1: have not. I have not. Okay, fair enough, Patrick, same question.

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Speaker 1: Has anybody influenced your thoughts about your priority to want

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Speaker 1: to go see the movie in the first place? And

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Speaker 1: have you talked to anybody who's seen it? I just

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen the trailers for it back when

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Speaker 1: movies came out, and I'm a fan of like Matt

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Speaker 1: Damon's acting, but also it's a sports movie, so I've

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Speaker 1: already been really really motivated and influenced to go see

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Speaker 1: I do have. One of my best friends actually just

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Speaker 1: went to go see it with one of his brothers

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Speaker 1: and he said it was an amazing movie. He said

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Speaker 1: top notch, like yeah, absolutely, and he made me want

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Speaker 1: to see more. It's an homage to nineteen eighty four.

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Speaker 1: The music to close, the vibe, the commercials, everything, and

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Speaker 1: one last thing, Viola Davis is spectacular is Michael Jordan's mom.

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Speaker 1: Ben Affleck and Matt Damon were very candid if we

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Speaker 1: don't get Viola Davis to play Michael Jordan's mom. That

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Speaker 1: was the record quest of Michael Jordan, specifically, they don't

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Speaker 1: make the movie my God that she deliver. The conversations

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Speaker 1: the scenes between Violet Davis and Matt Damon absolutely electric.

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Speaker 1: Coming up, Aaron Rodgers the Jets. Are they ever gonna

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Speaker 1: get married? I'll tell you keep it locked. Bernie Fratto,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to dive into this Aaron Rodgers situation in

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Speaker 1: a bit here because there are dates on the calendar

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Speaker 1: that can't be ignored. So while clock ticks and Joe

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Speaker 1: Douglas assures the masses tonight that Aaron Rodgers is coming,

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Speaker 1: well let's have a look at reality versus what they

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Speaker 1: hope it will be. Although probably I'd say the odds

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Speaker 1: still favor that Rogers will be a jet. But first,

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Speaker 1: let's go out to the phone to join by Poppy

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Speaker 1: and San Diego wants to talk a little UFC. What's up, Poppy, No,

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Speaker 1: I want to talk a little UFCA. The Athics did

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Speaker 1: great and amazing and a breaking news and San Diego

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Speaker 1: today they're gonna have like a parade honoring Sandy's the

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Speaker 1: sake assex great final four run, the championship game. So

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to go for that. I'm gonna go be

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Speaker 1: an attendance. We're gonna have a snap dragon. I mean,

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Speaker 1: six forty five pm and uh the ASPS will have

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00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: be in Miami. So a fighter you guys should look

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Speaker 1: out for. His name is Raoul Rosa's junior. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be fighting again, Christian Rodriguez. He's eighteen years old, his

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Speaker 1: second professional fighting UFC and he's gonna be one of

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Speaker 1: the main slate fights. That's a big achievement for an

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Speaker 1: eighteen year old. He's gonna be really what's his weight class?

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Speaker 1: I believe he's a lightweight. He's a lightweight. So he's

848
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: had two fights so far. You're saying, well, yeah, he's

849
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: had two fives and he's eighteen years old. Is a

850
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: second fight. The last one he had he knocked his

851
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: a ponent out and he's really good. Eighteen years old

852
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: professional fighter. All Right, thanks a lot for checking in, Pop,

853
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: you appreciate it. And of course the US he's always

854
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: looking for the next major star. Everybody had their you

855
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: know the household names from from Ronda Rousing to Connor

856
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: McGregor to Jon Jones, right, Anderson Silva and now they're

857
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: they're looking for a new crop. Of course, but the

858
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: sport reinvents itself, so not adopt my mind that Dana

859
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: White will certainly do that. I want to talking about

860
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers here because he you know, it's been now

861
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: a few weeks since he announced on the Pat mcafe

862
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: show that he wants to play for the Jets. That's

863
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: his and I think a lot of folks presumed, well,

864
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: the trade must be imminent. I've always said I'm not

865
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: predicting it, but I've always believed this trade could sink

866
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: under its own weight because both the Packers and Jets

867
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: are having sort of the sterodon this stalemate, right, and

868
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: I think what's happened? And I listen as we stand

869
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 1: here on April eighth, you know, twenty twenty three, Rogers

870
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: is still a Green Bay packer. Now I don't expect

871
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: that to last. But until you have a deal and

872
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: tell there's a deal, Rogers, excuse me, apologize, Rogers is

873
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: still a Green Bay packer. That's a fact. Now, Why

874
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: is that the case? Because actually the Packers and the

875
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: Jets both believe they have the most leverage in this scenario.

876
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: Why because Green Bay, Hey, we've got the quarterback to

877
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: New York once. You know, damn well, the Jets aren't

878
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: able to get another player of Rogers caliber, So the

879
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: Packers believe they should get a solid Hall. This guy's

880
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: won an MVP four times. As for the Jets, they

881
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: know the Packers don't want to keep Rogers and frankly,

882
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 1: they don't really have another dance partner they could realistically

883
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: trade him to. But you know, in spite of what

884
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: the group think, Echo Chamber says, would it be the

885
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 1: worst in the world if Rogers returns to the Green

886
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: and by I don't know what the hell Jets going

887
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: to do, And we'll get to that a little later.

888
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring in the crew. Believe it or not,

889
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: the Jets signed a guy with the initials TB and

890
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 1: he has war number twelve. I was that for a tease.

891
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: We get to it later bringing the crew, and I

892
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: don't know if that's a good sign, meaning that that

893
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: makes it look like the Rogers deal is more likely

894
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: or less likely. However, Charles Robinson, who's with Yahoo Sports,

895
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: he says they're getting close. It looks like there's a

896
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 1: pretty stiff negotiation basically over draft pick compensation. But according

897
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: to Charles Robinson, they're getting closed. The Jets are. You know,

898
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: allegedly they're willing to part with two high draft picks

899
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: for Rod, which would include a second round pick in

900
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three and a potential first round pick in

901
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. But here's the deal. I don't think

902
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: they'd really want to do that. The deal is complex,

903
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: and the standoff I think it's going to continue. There

904
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: is a rumor now they think it's going to happen

905
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: between day one and day two of the draft. I

906
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: don't know, no way I'm predicting that would not surprise

907
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 1: me if this thing drug into June. This is why

908
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: you have to start to look at some key dates.

909
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: These are legit dates. April seventeenth, nine days from now,

910
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: the Jets beginning off season program. At that point, you

911
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: can't tell me they don't want to have Rogers in

912
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 1: the fold. That will give Mapple time to sort of

913
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: familiarize himself with the offense even more, get to know

914
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 1: his teammates. And I get it. Rogers to skip Packers

915
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: off seasons programs in the recent past, done it more

916
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: than once, so you might even attend the Jets program.

917
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: That said, the Jets would still like to give the

918
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: opportunity and ensure and feel good that they know they

919
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: have a planet quarterback as they start to kickstart their

920
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: preparations for the twenty twenty three season. Ten days after that,

921
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: nineteen days from now, you've got the draft. The drafts

922
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: April twenty seven. So this is kind of the first

923
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: deadline of sorts for a legitimate deal because it's a

924
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: hard deadline. There's no denying both the Jets and the

925
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: Packers would like to know their plans and what draft

926
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: compensation they would you be willing to part with before

927
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 1: they make their first round selections. But I think that

928
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: there's a possibility that they blow right past that deadline

929
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: because I think it's about it's about perhaps future draft picks.

930
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: It's about second round draft picks more than first round

931
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 1: draft picks. And the long and the short of it is,

932
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: you know that's part of the negotiation. So I think

933
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: they blow past that that draft deadline all of April

934
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: twenty seven, which is the first round. Also, if the

935
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: Packers want twenty twenty three draft picks included in their compensation,

936
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: that's going to necessitate getting a deal done before the draft.

937
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: Jets may not be willing for that, willing to do

938
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: that right so, and the other the other thing is

939
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: we know that Green Day would rather have twenty twenty

940
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: three selections instead of twenty twenty four selections because they

941
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: want a more immediate payoff. Aaron Rodgers, they're gonna part

942
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: with the Hall of Fame quarterback. You'd like to get

943
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: your return on investment sooner. That doesn't mean that Jets

944
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 1: are willing to do that. As I said, both sides

945
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: believe they have leverage. So people are saying during the

946
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: draft is a likely deadline for the deal to be completed.

947
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: But I don't think it'll be done by the beginning

948
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: of the draft. That's just my opinion. And the closer

949
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: you get, I think that you start to look to

950
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four draft, and then maybe the Green

951
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: Bay Packers asked for even more, and then the Stalema

952
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: con teams. Again not predicting this, but it would not

953
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: surprise me if this drug into June May first is

954
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 1: the next key deadline. These are real deadlines. Jordan Love

955
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: you know, they say he's ready, Well, it's just fifty

956
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: year option deadline, right, This is another reason that Packers

957
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: want to swing a deal by draft day. They've got

958
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: a decision to on Jordan Love. They have until May first.

959
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: Who exercise this fifth year option? Funny to me, he

960
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: said he's ready. Why haven't you exercised its fifth year option?

961
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: Now the Packers, I guess they say they're going to

962
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: do that, but they don't seem to be in ali

963
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: of a hurry, do they. So if a trade does

964
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: fall through, Rogers decides to play for the Packers again,

965
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: They're gonna have about seventy five million dollars in cap

966
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: space tied up for quarterbacks for the twenty twenty fourth season.

967
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: That's not a number anybody any GM wants to have

968
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: to deal with. But Jordan Loves either ready or is not.

969
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: You either want to make this deal with the Jets

970
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: you don't. But what's that deadline? May first? Could think

971
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: to a trickier then, and we'll find out if the

972
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 1: Packers love Jordan Love as much as they say they do.

973
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: Then of course June first, that's the post June first

974
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: trade versus the pre June first trade. What do I

975
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: mean by that? Once June one passes, the Packers can

976
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: then spread Rogers dead cap hit over two seasons as

977
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: opposed to absorbing it all in twenty twenty three. So

978
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: if the Packers trade Aaron Rodgers before June first, they'll

979
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: take on a dead cap hit about forty one million

980
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: dollars maybe a little bit less, right, and if they

981
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 1: trade him it's less, but anyway, look, they're going to

982
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: take a hit. But here's the deal. If Rogers is

983
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 1: traded after June first, well, guess what. The Packers only

984
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: take a fifteen fifteen point eight million dollars hit in

985
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, and then it'll jump to twenty four

986
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: million in twenty twenty four. But it's spread over two years. Now.

987
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: That will benefit the Packers short term because I have

988
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 1: more cap space available to build around Jordan Love, remember

989
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 1: the guy they said that's ready, but they haven't fired

990
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: on his fifth year option yet. So but if you

991
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: defer some of the dead cap hit, that's going to

992
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: limit their spending capabilities in twenty twenty four. So come see,

993
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: come saw, maybe you take the whole dead cap hit

994
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: at once. That's why I said this thing starts to

995
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: get a little complicated. Then you get to July, you

996
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: get to mid to late July training camp begins. The

997
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: NFL hasn't announced yet when camps a little bit of

998
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, but teams you can rest assure by

999
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: about July twentieth, teams are assembling. By that point, the

1000
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: Jets would have an absolute increased desire to have Rogers

1001
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: on the roster. How the hell do you go to

1002
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: camp about Rogers in July? I don't want to hear this.

1003
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: He can show up a week before the season and

1004
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: be fine not buying it. You're not a spring chicken anymore.

1005
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: It's almost forty Not that he still doesn't have a

1006
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: lot of gas new tank, I believe more than most

1007
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: people give him credit for. But the packers also, if

1008
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 1: they wait that long, what do you do with Jordan love?

1009
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: You know, he's sitting there, you know, hanging as the

1010
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: guy in waiting, and you're not exactly you know, showing

1011
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 1: him a lot of love for lack of a better word,

1012
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: if you don't name him as your starter and get

1013
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: him into camp and all those things and wrap him

1014
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: up with a fifth year option. So can you imagine

1015
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: if we are talking about this in July and the

1016
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: Jets don't have Rogers in camp, and maybe he's in

1017
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: camp with Green Bay, but they've already said they believe

1018
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,240
Speaker 1: in Jordan Love. You see how messy just gets Finally,

1019
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: I know this is way off, but September tenth. You know,

1020
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: the future always has a way of arriving ahead of schedule,

1021
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: right If a trade has not happened by September tenth,

1022
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: that's the opening day of the season, odds are I'm

1023
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: guessing each team will have gone a different direction. What

1024
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 1: the hell that direction is, I don't know. For the Packers,

1025
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 1: it's simple, they got Rodgers, they got him out of contract,

1026
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 1: Maybe he fires up, maybe they win the division. I

1027
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: don't know. So technically speaking, this would be a really

1028
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 1: hard deadline for trading Aaron Rodgers. September tenth. This would

1029
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: be the ultimate hard deadline. Why because it's about the money.

1030
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: Rogers has a fully guaranteed option bonus a fifty eight

1031
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,959
Speaker 1: million this year that must be exercised before the first

1032
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: game of the season. So if you don't do it

1033
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: by September tenth, you got him. Often a team will

1034
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: make that decision to pick up the option, and it'd

1035
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: be well advanced ahead of the deadline. But the bottom

1036
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: line is, if you don't reach a deal by then

1037
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: and they don't want Rogers on the team anymore, what

1038
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: do you do? If you're the Packers, you're a little hamstring.

1039
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: That's why the Jets feel they have leverage. But I

1040
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: still think Greenbay actually has a leverage because what's the

1041
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: worst case scenario. The Packers have a disgruntled Hall of

1042
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: Fame quarterback. You've got a chance to win your division

1043
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: the Jets. You're going to go into battle with that

1044
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 1: defense and brief fall in that offense and a team

1045
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 1: that's traded to win. Who's your quarterback? Who's your quarterback?

1046
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: Is there gonna be a TB who they just who

1047
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: they just signed. I'll tell you his name in a minute,

1048
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: coming up, a little bit of a teaser, and he

1049
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 1: actually wore number twelve in the past. I get it.

1050
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: The Packers are going to hold out and try to

1051
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: get as much as they can for Rogers. But at

1052
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: a certain point you've got to realize, Okay, we can

1053
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: no longer carry the financial burden, we can no longer

1054
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: play this game. You gotta pass the time, you give

1055
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: it to love, you move on. You get the best

1056
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: you can get. That's why I think Charles Davis believes

1057
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,399
Speaker 1: the resolution is going to happen sooner rather than later.

1058
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: And uh and that's that's that's about that And a minute,

1059
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring in the crew here. I want to

1060
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: get their thoughts as this continues to drag on in

1061
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,240
Speaker 1: terms of who do you think has the leverage and

1062
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: might there be some wildcard in here we're not seeing,

1063
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: get their thoughts from from their standpoint, and I will

1064
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: pay off that tease as well. Who's tb that wore

1065
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: number twelve that the Jets signed today? Squeezing a quick

1066
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: call here, Let's go to our guys. Sir scratch off,

1067
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: what's Sarah scratch off? Sir Fred old Water in the

1068
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: world going on out there? Brothers? Well, what's on your

1069
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,439
Speaker 1: sports mind tonight? Bob will tell you something right now,

1070
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: my friend, You've got some good fellers. That's these falls.

1071
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: I means as gonna have I figure. But anyway, buddy,

1072
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers, Lamar, Lamar,

1073
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: set them on the bench, put that money that you

1074
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,760
Speaker 1: should have spent and let that love get a chance.

1075
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: I have coached little Biague baseball. I didn't line for

1076
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: soft volleyball. I wanta tell you something. You got to

1077
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 1: play these other people, man, and see what they've got

1078
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: before you end up lose them to somebody else, and

1079
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 1: they root make you look like a dog. Look at

1080
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. We're a super Bowl. He didn't win, but

1081
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,720
Speaker 1: he got there. You got to give these boys a chance.

1082
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 1: Get rid of all these big contracts. Put signing these

1083
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 1: boys for a championship that you ain't gonna get. Aaron

1084
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: Rodgers ain't gonna have another free he gets out of

1085
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 1: the out of the games. I say that, Lamar. It

1086
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: was told, he said on the bench before the season,

1087
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: and it tolds knew he could play. But he's hold

1088
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: out for everything. He don't even have a dad drum

1089
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: agent but his mother. You got to let these boys

1090
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: don't get rid of them. Did do Somebody knew and

1091
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: give him a chance. God, give every one of us

1092
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: a chance. You've got to go on with your game,

1093
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: and you can't keep these boys. They cost you money

1094
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: afterr butt forever, Ladies and gentlemen. When you bring you,

1095
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: sir a scratch off, keep it real out there, buddy,

1096
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Check it in. I just think you gotta

1097
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 1: be careful. Do you really want to be the GM

1098
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: that makes a decision and he goes somewhere else You

1099
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: get the drill. I but this is a complicated situation,

1100
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,439
Speaker 1: and again that's from the standpoint of a fan. Fans

1101
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: start to get a little fed up, and that's part

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00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 1: of the mix. People have those opinions as well. But

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00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you want to win

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00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: football games. I cover the Lions for ten years Prepost's

1105
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: immense pressure in the National Football League to win football games.

1106
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: You either win and keep your job or you don't.

1107
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: And you want to have the best team on the field.

1108
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: And quarterbacks like Lamar Jackson and Lamaron Rodgers don't go

1109
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: on trees. But sir, scratch off, we appreciate your opinion.

1110
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: Coming up, I want to bring in the crew get

1111
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: their thoughts on the whole Aaron Rodgers situation. Who is

1112
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: TB used to wear number twelve, He's now on the

1113
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: Jets roster. I'll tell you, I'm Bernie Frido. Where coming

1114
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: to your line from the Fox Sports radiotirack dot com

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00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: studios here in Las Vegas. Keep it locked. You're listening

1116
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: to the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. We're

1117
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: back on the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio, coming

1118
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: to you live from the Tirock dot Com studios here

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00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas to take up to two am Pacific,

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00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: five am Eastern. Bottom of the year. After Kevin's update,

1121
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: will dive into the NBA Playoffs, the race the tiebreakers.

1122
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: Fill you in and let you know what's going to

1123
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: happen on Saturday and Sunday. Get your mind around some

1124
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: of this craziness, all right, Green Bay Packers, Aaron Rodgers,

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00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: let's start with you, Kevin. Do they have a deal

1126
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: done by the draft? By the draft? No, but I

1127
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: do think a deal gets done during the draft. I

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00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: don't know if that counts in the same you know situation,

1129
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: because I do think that if you're splitting hairs there, Bernie,

1130
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh no, no no you're not, because I

1131
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: think it's common knowledge that it's not going to get

1132
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: done by the first round. But if it's done anytime

1133
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: during the draft, which is six rounds, gets the draft

1134
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: to continue on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was my outlook

1135
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: because I think you reach a critical mass at that

1136
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: point in time, because at that point, you know, if

1137
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: you're Green Bay, you're not going to get your compensation

1138
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: is going to be all in the future. You're not

1139
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: gonna be able to recoup anything that's going to help

1140
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: you this coming season, which I believe that's something that

1141
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: they would want, so that there will be heads of

1142
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: the fire on both sides, and I think there'll be

1143
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: more pressure to get something done. So you might have

1144
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: a situation where, you know, maybe the Jets draft a

1145
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: player or two for them, maybe there was another player

1146
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: on the roster or veteran that they send over as

1147
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: well to kind of make the deal work. But I

1148
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: refuse to believe the draft will come and go without

1149
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: this deal getting done. Yeah, I don't know. You you

1150
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: may well be right. I would. I'm taking a weight

1151
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: in see attitude because this is unlike anything we've ever seen.

1152
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: And by the way, just to pay off the TS,

1153
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: the TV who wore number twelve that the Jets scientify

1154
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: is a kid named Tim Boyle who played for the

1155
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. So let me ask you a question. You're

1156
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: bringing a guy, Tim Boyle, who knows who actually knows

1157
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: the offense. He knows the offense. He's worked in a

1158
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: similar offense. So he'll step right in if he had

1159
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: to play with the Nathaniel Hackett. He knows the offense

1160
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: better than certainly Zach Wilson does. Is that a sign

1161
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: that the Aaron Rodgers trade is more likely or less likely?

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00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: In your view? Kevin, I don't know if it's a

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00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: sign of anything other than the fact that you have

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00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: someone who's familiar with the offensive staff and they just

1165
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: want to bring another guy in to get it to

1166
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 1: give him a look. So, look, it certainly helps. He

1167
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: has experience in the offense, and it shortens the learning

1168
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: curve in case something were to happen with the Aaron

1169
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: Rodgers situation and it hits a snag. But look, if

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01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: the Jets have any designs of believing that Tim Boyle

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Speaker 1: can be their starting quarterback going into the season, that's

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Speaker 1: an issue. That's a major issue. That's an issue. That's

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01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: an issue with a capitalize. So who do you think

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01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: has the real leverage here? Green Bay? Who would you

1175
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: which side would you want to be on? Right now?

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01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: The Jets are the Packers. I still say green Bay

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01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: has the leverage here too, because they know what they're

1178
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: dealing with, and look, Aaron Rodgers can show up the

1179
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: camp and collect his money if he wants. If he

1180
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: doesn't want to hold out, they can give him the

1181
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: Jimmy g treatment and say, okay, cool, I'll go to

1182
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: the side field and do your little thing. We'll pay

1183
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: your salary. They're gonna end up paying most of his

1184
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: salary anyway, Bernie, to be honest with you, so what

1185
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: does it matter. See, we're in total agreement there. No

1186
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: matter what happens, Green Bay is gonna take a massive

1187
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: hit salary calf hit. Even if it's after June. First

1188
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: half will be the issue. Half will be in twenty

1189
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Speaker 1: twenty four. So it's like flip a claim head. You win,

1190
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: tails your break even. Maybe he's disold, maybe it's uncomfortable,

1191
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: but she's still got a Hall of Fame quarterback under center. Meanwhile,

1192
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: who do the Jets play? You know, Jay Jack Wilson

1193
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: is just simply not ready. He needs another year of

1194
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: standing around observing. So I'm an agreement, Kevin. I think

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01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: the Jets are checked at the Packers. You generally have

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01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: the leverage. We want to say something else, No, No,

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01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: that yeah, that was it. I did. The Packers have

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Speaker 1: all the leverage here and the Jets are the desperate team,

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Speaker 1: and so a few of the Packers. I think it's

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01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: smart hold out for whatever you possibly can get from

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01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: them and see how desperate they actually are. Because I

1202
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: think the Jets are extremely desperate. They've already gone all

1203
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: in signing all of these players at Aaron Rodgers wants.

1204
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: They've done literally everything, but get the deal done. I mean,

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01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: if if it wasn't already in the favor of the

1206
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers before, it certainly is now exactly it's

1207
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: I could come up with a funny analogy, but I'm

1208
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: gonna set that aside right now. All right, Patrick Sweeka,

1209
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: So let's start with you. When does the deal get done?

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Speaker 1: In your view? You know, Bernie, I do agree with

1211
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 1: with what Kevin was saying about it's going to be

1212
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Speaker 1: in the middle of the draft. But because of just

1213
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Speaker 1: the way that no one knows how this is going,

1214
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: because we've never seen this be done, I honestly kind

1215
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 1: of think they might do it after the draft and

1216
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 1: wait till you know, they really have to do with

1217
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: the whole training camp thing. Because again, I'm gonna agree

1218
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: with the whole side of I think the Packers really

1219
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 1: do have the leverage here and they're content with, you know,

1220
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: playing it out until you know they see fit or

1221
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: whatever happens. I mean, they're kind of kind of you know,

1222
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: they're taking a taking a cap hit either way, you

1223
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Well, they're taking a cap hit.

1224
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: Bottom line is, they'll be spending a lot of money

1225
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: irrespective of where Aaron Rodgers ends up. I find it

1226
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: concerning that if they like Jordan Loves so much, they

1227
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: have yet to pick up the fifth year option, if

1228
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: they know they're gonna make this deal. I think the

1229
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Speaker 1: Packers hold the cards. They can acquiesce anytime they want

1230
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: to see, Okay, we'll take a two draft. We'll take

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Speaker 1: two second round picks in twenty four and twenty five

1232
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: or twenty three and twenty four. I bet that would

1233
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 1: get it done. You figure out other compensation. Perhaps the

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01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: Packers pick up some of his salary, whatever the case

1235
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: may be. I think the Packers hold the cards. They

1236
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 1: could make this deal happen. They're just holding out for

1237
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: as much as they can get, which again leads you

1238
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 1: to the time clock, which is ticking. There are dates

1239
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: here coming up nine days. The Jets have their offseason program.

1240
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: If you're going to bring in a Hall of Fame

1241
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 1: quarterback with a brand new team and a brand new city.

1242
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: And you know he's thirty nine going on forty, And

1243
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: I think Aaron Rodgers has gas left in the tank.

1244
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 1: You wouldn't know it by looking at that face. Man,

1245
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: he looks old and tired to me, But I dumb

1246
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: like a fox. I think I think he might have

1247
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 1: something to prove. We shall see. But regardless, if you're

1248
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: the Jets April seventeenth, you want him in the program.

1249
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 1: A pul twenty seventh, the next key point the draft.

1250
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: That's a deadline of sorts. Okay, it's not a hard deadline,

1251
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: but let's I think both the Jets and the Packers

1252
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: would like to know their plans coming out of the draft,

1253
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: and that's going to be based on available draft compensation.

1254
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 1: I don't think round one is gonna matter because I

1255
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: don't think the Packers are getting the first round draft

1256
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 1: pick in twenty twenty three, could get one of twenty

1257
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: twenty four. But I think it comes right up to

1258
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 1: the deadline. That's a real hard deadline, but it doesn't

1259
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: in there. You gotta watch this May first. Jordan Love,

1260
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 1: why haven't the Packers picked up his fifth year option deadline.

1261
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: He said he was ready. Everybody said he was ready.

1262
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: You know, they asked Aaron Rodgers about that once. He

1263
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: was honest. He said he got a text back in

1264
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,919
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight and he says, Okay, the job

1265
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: is yours. You're gonna be a starting quarterback. And here's

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Speaker 1: a very cocky, confident guy, been waiting for this time

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Speaker 1: chance his whole life. And he was honest. He said,

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Speaker 1: you know what, at precisely that moment, I believed I

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01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: was ready. I wanted to be ready, but I really

1270
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: wasn't sure if I was. You're not gonna know it

1271
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Speaker 1: until you get under center in front of sixty thousand

1272
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Speaker 1: people in the game's count and the heat gets hot.

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01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: It's hard to breathe in the bullet the real bullets

1274
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 1: are flying. You're never gonna know. Right then, we already

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Speaker 1: mentioned the June first treadline, a trade deadline that's on

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Speaker 1: a trade deadline. It's a deadline of sorts because of

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Speaker 1: the Packers trade Rogers after June first, they'll only be

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Speaker 1: hit with a fifteen million dollars cap hit in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three. That's a big relief, but they'll pay the

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Speaker 1: rest in twenty twenty four. Then you get to July,

1281
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 1: late July training Cam's open. If the deal's not done

1282
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: by then, you're gonna have to be a little disappointed

1283
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 1: if you're the Jets, because even though you might still

1284
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: get Rogers, time's a wasting and this is a National

1285
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: Football League, this isn't Sanlon football. The season begins September tenth.

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01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 1: That is the hardest deadline of all of them, because

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Speaker 1: if the Packers haven't traded him by that point, he's Rogers.

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01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 1: Rogers is due the fully guaranteed option bonus at fifty

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Speaker 1: eight million. We're going to continue to watch this. In

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Speaker 1: my Saturday night show, I'm going to talk a little

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01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: bit about how good will the Rodgers, how good will

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Speaker 1: the Jets be with Aaron Rodgers, And I'll give you

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01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 1: a little hint, a hell of a lot better than

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01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 1: it used to be. And I'll break down why so.

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Speaker 1: I think it's in the interest of both sides at

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Speaker 1: this point to trade him. But I've always said there's

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Speaker 1: a chance to Duke could sing under its own weight.

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Speaker 1: We shall see. We have two days left in the

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Speaker 1: NBA playoffs. Let's break it down a little bit, especially

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Speaker 1: in the Western Conference standing because there's no race more

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01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 1: important than the Lakers, Warriors, Clippers in the bottom half

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Speaker 1: of the playoff picture. Believe it or not, top credit

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01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 1: to the Lakers. They're still alive. They are still alive

1304
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: to get that sixth spot. It's a long shot. I'll

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01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 1: tell you what has to happen. First, let's go back

1306
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Speaker 1: to our guy, Kevin Figures with the least all right, Bernie,

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Speaker 1: we'll speaking of the NBA, the playing matchups in the

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01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference have been set in stone. The Heat will

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Speaker 1: host the Hawks in one Eastern Conference playing game that

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Speaker 1: will take place on Tuesday night. Wednesday's matchup will feature

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Speaker 1: Chicago facing the Raptors in Toronto. As you mentioned, nothing

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01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 1: set in stone at the bottom of the Western Conference

1313
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: quite yet. Lakers in Golden State each won their matchups

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Speaker 1: on Friday night. A Warrior's victory over Portland on Sunday

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Speaker 1: will secure at least the sixth seed for the defending champs.

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01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 1: Dallas has officially been eliminated from the playoffs after they

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Speaker 1: lost to Chicago Friday night. Brooklyn clinched the sixth seed

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Speaker 1: with the victory on Friday as well. They will take

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Speaker 1: on Philadelphia in the first round and Major League Baseball.

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01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: Eva Langoria got three hits and a home run to

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01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 1: lead Arizona over the Dodgers by the score of six

1322
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: to three. A three run home run for Bobichette, leaving

1323
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 1: the Blue Jays over the Angels, spoiling their home opener

1324
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 1: four to three. Brewers or six and one on the season,

1325
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 1: a four nothing victory over the Cardinals Tampa Bay seven,

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01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: and oh they beat Oakland nine to five. You also

1327
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 1: had victories for the Mets Baltimore at San Diego and Philadelphia,

1328
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 1: who got a home run from JT. Realmuto in a

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01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 1: five to two victory over Cincinnati. Back to Bernie Fredom

1330
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 1: and real quickly, Kevin, you heard me at the top

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Speaker 1: of the show, Real against the Dallas Mavericks. Does that

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01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 1: leave the same bad taste in your mouth? That does me? Yeah,

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01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 1: it does, especially if you're talking about protecting a top

1334
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 1: ten protected pick or something. When you have a chance

1335
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 1: to get one of the best players in the league,

1336
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: two of the best players in the league. Albeit you

1337
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 1: can say the experiment hasn't worked out. They're well under

1338
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 1: five hundreds since the trade was made. But you don't

1339
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 1: even know what can happen when you make it into

1340
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 1: the postseasons. To just give up and basically make no

1341
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 1: apologies about it, but blatantly give up on the season,

1342
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 1: to try to protect yourself in a top ten pick.

1343
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 1: I just think it's I think that's ridiculous. I'm not

1344
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 1: a big fan of taking in general. I'm especially not

1345
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 1: taking to try to hope and pray that you get

1346
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 1: the tenth pick instead of the eleventh pick in the draft.

1347
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 1: That's ridiculous to me. It's ridiculous to me. To turn

1348
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: the clock back to February sixth, they were in the

1349
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 1: freaking playoffs. They were the number four seed. You go

1350
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 1: all in to get Kyrie for what do you can tank? Yeah,

1351
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 1: no one could have predicted this. All right, let's talk

1352
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: a little bit about the Western Conference. I found it

1353
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 1: more interesting than the Eastern Conference for all these reasons. Right,

1354
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: You've got three franchises, two in LA, the Lakers and Clippers,

1355
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 1: and then you've got the Golden State Warriors, who have

1356
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 1: had a resurgence. They, as Kevin would say, they molly

1357
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: wop Sacramento and the Sacramento didn't play. They're started, but

1358
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 1: asn't matter. So Golden States still gotta play Portland. They

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01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 1: win that game, it's it's over, okay, because they've lost

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01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 1: thirty eight games. The Clippers have lost thirty eight games,

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01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: the Lakers have lost thirty nine. All you do is

1362
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 1: look at the lost column at this point. So as

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01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 1: long as Golden State won their final two games, they're in.

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01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 1: Golden State has the tiebreaker over the Clippers, but the

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01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 1: Lakers ironically have the tiebreaker over Golden State, but the

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Speaker 1: Clippers have the tiebreaker over the Lakers. So what the

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01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 1: Lakers are hoping happen is that the Lakers beat Utah Sunday.

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01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 1: The Clippers got back to back games Saturday and Sunday

1369
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 1: against Portland and Phoenix. If the Clippers go one and one,

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01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: they've got the tiebreaker over the Lakers. The Lakers are done.

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01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,480
Speaker 1: They're They're relegated to the seventh spot. If the Clippers

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Speaker 1: lose both games and the Lakers lose win Sunday, well

1373
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 1: guess what the Clips are forty two and forty The

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01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,919
Speaker 1: Lakers would only have thirty nine losses, which makes everybody

1375
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 1: pay attention to gold State Portland because if Golden State

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01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 1: were to lose that game, they'd be forty three and

1377
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: thirty nine, the Lakers would be forty three and thirty

1378
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 1: nine lo and behold, the Lakers would find themselves in

1379
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 1: the number six spot. Simple as that. If you're followed

1380
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,599
Speaker 1: all that, you're smarter than I am. So the bottom

1381
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 1: line is, no race is more important than these final

1382
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 1: two days of the regular season than the one between

1383
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 1: the Lakers, Warriors, and Clippers. It's the bottom half of

1384
01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 1: the Western Conference playoff picture. Because the bottom line is,

1385
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: there are a lot of people who really believe that

1386
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 1: if any of those teams manage to get to the

1387
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 1: sixth seed, they would meet Sacramento the number three seed.

1388
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 1: And it's not to take anything away from the third

1389
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 1: seed Sacramento Kings. I think they're one of the best

1390
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: stories in the NBA this year. They're headed the playoffs

1391
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 1: for the first time in seventeen years. They are not

1392
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 1: going to be a pushover, and they're gonna have home

1393
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 1: forward court advantage. But you know, because this is their

1394
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 1: first time on the dance card. The last time the

1395
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 1: Kings made the playoffs, most of these guys were in

1396
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 1: third grade. We don't know if the playoff experience will

1397
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 1: will be a factor should the Lakers manage to sneak

1398
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 1: into that last spot. I am. I know Shannon sharps

1399
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 1: as no one wants to see the Lakers in the playoffs.

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01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 1: I'm not buying that for one second. I don't think

1401
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 1: anybody fears the Lakers. I'm tired of that group. Think

1402
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 1: echo chamber. And if that's the case, just tell me,

1403
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 1: don't don't show me, don't tell me, get on the

1404
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,719
Speaker 1: floor and win a playoff series or two playoff series.

1405
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 1: Other than that, this is all just pablum. So look,

1406
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 1: there's also a chance that you know, the Lakers and

1407
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 1: the Clippers and Warriors could face John Morant and Memphis

1408
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 1: as the number seven seed because you've all there's also

1409
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 1: a chance they could face Phoenix, and then that's going

1410
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 1: to be a Phoenix with Kevin Durant, Chris Paul and

1411
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 1: Devin Booker and DeAndre eight and they're the number five seed,

1412
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 1: and hopefully we see a healthy Phoenix team, which would

1413
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 1: make for an exciting playoff. But I'm I'm looking forward

1414
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 1: to this, and a Lebron once said, whoever came up

1415
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 1: with the playing game should be fired. Not buying it,

1416
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,759
Speaker 1: So I think it's awesome now, I think it's terrific.

1417
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 1: That we're going to be treated to a little different dynamic.

1418
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 1: This winner go home. You know, typical situation. It'll start

1419
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 1: Wednesday for three quick days in the Western Conference and

1420
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 1: in an Eastern Conference it starts Tuesday. But look, you know,

1421
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,679
Speaker 1: if you're wondering about tiebreakers, the nbaas all this out.

1422
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,759
Speaker 1: You know, if two teams are tied, the better winning

1423
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 1: person senage will be in games against each other. And

1424
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 1: by the way, a division leader wins a tieover team

1425
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: not leading a division, he gets very granular. Could there

1426
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 1: be three teams tied, I wouldn't bet on it. That

1427
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 1: could happen as well. But they've even got tiebreaker provisions

1428
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 1: for that, right, the division leader wins the tie from

1429
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 1: the team that's not leading division. If you have a

1430
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,759
Speaker 1: better winning precision in all games versus all the tie teams,

1431
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 1: the one lost percentage, it gets very granular. Let's just

1432
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 1: hope we don't get down to that point. But I

1433
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,640
Speaker 1: think what we have is a situation where there's a

1434
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 1: there's a chance for some pretty good high drama basketball.

1435
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 1: Right and even though there are only two days remaining

1436
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 1: in the NBA season, man that it really went by fast.

1437
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 1: And we'll talk about this a lot with Mark Medina

1438
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 1: Saturday Night Medina Magic on Midnight, because it seemed like this.

1439
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 1: Yesterday we were talking about with the Nets trade Kyrie

1440
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 1: prior to the season starting, would they trade Kevin Durant

1441
01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 1: And both of them were on the roster for a

1442
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: lot of the season and they ended up getting traded.

1443
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 1: And I would just say that that's why I'm intrigued,

1444
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 1: because the NBA is more predictable now than ever. Okay,

1445
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 1: and you look at the Eastern Conference. Milwaukee looks like

1446
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,879
Speaker 1: the best team. They look like they should be favored.

1447
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 1: But don't think Boston and Philadelphia are gonna go down easy.

1448
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 1: And I have a real lot of respect for the

1449
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 1: Cleveland Cavaliers and the New York Knicks. And then unreal,

1450
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 1: this is so delicious. Kyrie's old team, the Brooklyn Nets. Yes,

1451
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 1: they are in the playoffs, not the play in game,

1452
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 1: the playoffs. They finish well. They're forty five and thirty

1453
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:37,759
Speaker 1: six right now, so they're locked in to the number

1454
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 1: sixth seed because the team behind them, Miami Heat, they

1455
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 1: have thirty eight losses, so they can't catch them. Remember

1456
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 1: it's all about the lost column. And you know, you

1457
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 1: look at the four teams in the playing tournament in

1458
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 1: the East, you got Miami, Atlanta, Toronto and Chicago. Either

1459
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 1: any one of those teams could emerge. You can't sleep

1460
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,679
Speaker 1: on them right now. If the season we're to end today,

1461
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:01,679
Speaker 1: and I think it's probably gonna end this way anyway,

1462
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,799
Speaker 1: you're gonna have the Lakers, Pelicans, Timberwolves, and Thunder Thunder

1463
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 1: are locked in at ten. They can't improve themselves. The

1464
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:10,759
Speaker 1: Lakers can, So I think it's gonna be fun to watch.

1465
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 1: Coming up, we wrap up our NBA portion. Top of

1466
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 1: the r we dive into Lamar Jackson. I have not

1467
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 1: forgotten about Lamar Jackson. What are some visiting or what

1468
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 1: are some opposing general managers, owners, personnel directors saying about

1469
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, because instead of teams lining up to pay

1470
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, they're lining up to say no thanks. Well,

1471
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 1: the owners meetings we're just ten days ago, and we

1472
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 1: have some direct quotes from owners and you might be

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Speaker 1: interested in hearing what they got to say. That's coming

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Speaker 1: up at the top of the hour. I'm Bernie Fraderer,

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Speaker 1: coming to you live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports

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Speaker 1: Radio Studios. You're locked right here you're listening to the

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Speaker 1: Bernie Fradder Show on Fox Sports Radio. They're back on

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Speaker 1: the Bernie Fratto Show, Fox Sports Radio. Comedy Alive from

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Speaker 1: the entire act dot Com studios here in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Quick as side note, this has been under the radar

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Speaker 1: after what one hundred and forty seven years. John Elway

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01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 1: is no longer with the Denver Broncos Unreal began his

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01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 1: tenure as a young quarterback in nineteen eighty three, won

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01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 1: two Super Bowls in the late nineties, tried his best

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Speaker 1: as an executive to duplicate his success, came close, never

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01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 1: really got there except the one year with Peyton Manning right,

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Speaker 1: and he is now no longer with the Broncos. I

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01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 1: didn't predict this, but when the new ownership group came in,

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Speaker 1: I remember thinking to myself, there's no tires to Elway here,

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Speaker 1: and I wonder if he's going to survive. Now. I

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01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 1: don't know what happened on the details. I know that

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01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 1: Elway had basically been serving as a consultant and his

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01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 1: contract actually spied with the team just last month, which

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01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 1: I just found out. I really know that. And you know,

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Speaker 1: this is a guy who's a hall of Famer. He'd

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Speaker 1: been the general manager and then for many many, many

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Speaker 1: many years, probably twelve years, stepped away from that role

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one to become a consultant. But remember

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Speaker 1: John Elway also played sixteen season with the Broncos. He

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Speaker 1: won two Super Bowls as the franchise quarterback and one

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Speaker 1: another is executive. So that's quite a legacy. That is

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Speaker 1: John Elways legacy is two legacies in Denver, right, the

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01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 1: first as a player that put him in the Pro

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01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame, but the second as a general manager.

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01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 1: He brought in Peyton Manning, who in turn delivered the

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01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:41,799
Speaker 1: important veteral He in turn helped bring in other important

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01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: veteran players. All of a sudden, with Peyton Manning on

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01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 1: the Broncos, people were people were excited to be part

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01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 1: of the Denver Broncos. So I know, it's it feels

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01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 1: a little weird, it sounds a little weird, but John

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01:16:56,280 --> 01:17:02,599
Speaker 1: Elway is no longer part of the Denver Bronco family. Um.

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01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 1: I guess I can't get it out of my mind

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01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 1: what happened with the Dallas Mavericks Friday Night and how

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01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 1: that whole thing went down. It's just unthinkable to me.

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01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 1: It's unfathomable to me when you've got an owner that

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01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 1: I always thought genuinely wanted to win as much as

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01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 1: as Mark Cuban did to preside over the debacle that

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01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 1: we witnessed Friday night. And part of the reason it's

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01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 1: it's so unfathomable is because on February sixth, the Dallas

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01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 1: Mavericks were a playoff team. They were the number four

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01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 1: seed in the Western Conference. Then they go all in

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01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 1: and they pick up Kyrie Irving and they give up

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01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 1: Spencer did Witty and some some you know, some assets

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01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:56,560
Speaker 1: to go all in and say, hey, let's sort of

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Speaker 1: win this thing. Well, you know, as I said earlier,

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Speaker 1: like to thank the Dallas Mavericks for participating in the

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01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two twenty twenty three NBA season. Enjoyer, enjoy

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01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 1: your home version of the game. On the way out,

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01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 1: it's going to be a long offseason. After picking up

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01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:18,680
Speaker 1: Kyrie on that date in early February, they proceed to

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01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 1: go nine and seventeen down the stretch. By the way,

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01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 1: they were eight and twelve when Kyrie was in the lineup.

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01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 1: He wasn't in the lineup for every game shock or there,

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01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 1: and neither was Luca. But when Kyrie and Luca were together,

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01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 1: you're five and eleven. Okay, seriously, their point differential was

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01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,639
Speaker 1: minus two per game. That's terrible. You got two potential

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01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 1: Hall of Famers there, and they allowed opposing offenses and

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01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 1: opposing opponents to shoot to the likes of fifty percent

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01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:50,479
Speaker 1: field goal percentage from the floor. Oh oh, and by

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01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 1: the way that I mentioned that after picking up Kyrie Irving,

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01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: Dallas Mavericks finished the season in their last twenty six

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01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:03,520
Speaker 1: games with the fifth worst record in the National Basketball Association.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things that makes even that much

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01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 1: more delicious is the fact that Kyrie's old team to

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01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets not only made the playoffs, they made the playoffs,

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01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 1: not the play in game. The Brooklyn Nets when the

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01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 1: playoffs start will be the number six entrant in the

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01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference playoffs. Have a little fun with that. Now.

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Speaker 1: I bashed Mark Cuban a little bit earlier, and I've

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01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 1: always liked Mark Cuban. I actually interviewed him once in

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01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 1: his war room, which he calls it an American Airlines arena,

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01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 1: November nineteen, two thousand and five. He was really in

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01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 1: the good guy. I don't know what the hell happened

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01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 1: this year. Why you would allow that the season to

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01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 1: end in a whimper the way you did when fans

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01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 1: pay good money for tickets. This is very botherishome to me.

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01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:52,679
Speaker 1: And I'm going to tell you, Jason Kidd, I'll tell you, buddy,

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01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 1: your shorts aren't clean either, because you're I think you're

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01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 1: complicit as well. You cannot get before a press cont

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01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 1: conference and actually say, well, you know, we need patience,

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01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 1: needs time for these guys to get together and work

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01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 1: it out, and and they just didn't. Gael, I call

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01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:14,679
Speaker 1: bull viron scatology, not buying it. It doesn't take any

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01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 1: time to play hard right out of the gate, doesn't

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01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:19,679
Speaker 1: take any time to play with desire and to play defense.

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01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 1: And what's the old saying the best thing about ability

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01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 1: is availability? How about responsibility? How about understanding the responsibility

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Speaker 1: and obligation you have to your fans and your franchise

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01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 1: and your legacy. The fact that we witnessed this after

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01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 1: a team that was number four, you know, they were

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01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 1: basically the number four seed, had the season ended in

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01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 1: February sixth, and to fall off a cliff the way

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01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:51,720
Speaker 1: they did unforgivable, and I think that I, you know,

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01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 1: I don't really know that David Stern will do anything,

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01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:57,719
Speaker 1: David sturning up the commission anymore Adam Silver will do anything.

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01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 1: But regardless of that, it just leaves a terrible taste

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01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 1: of my mouth. It flies in the face of everything

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01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 1: I believe in, and I gotta believe the fans in

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01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:12,640
Speaker 1: Dallas and the National Basketball Association feel the same way.

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01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 1: By the way, give it up. I think Joel Joel

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01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 1: Embiad is gonna win the MVP Award when he scored

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01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:19,720
Speaker 1: the fifty two points the other night out of one

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01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:23,719
Speaker 1: hundred and three and look the only other player to score,

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01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 1: you know, fifty points, ten rebounds, five assists and eighty

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01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,599
Speaker 1: percent fields in a game as Wilt Chamberlain. I just

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01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 1: think they're gonna give it to Embiid. When you compare

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01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 1: them to yokich inmbiads averaging thirty three and a half

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01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 1: points a game, yokis twenty four. They're about the same

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01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 1: as rebounds right down down the line, the numbers are same.

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01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 1: Then you got Janis floating around in there. But from

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01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 1: the Las Vegas standpoint, Joel Embiad is about even money

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01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:49,719
Speaker 1: to win the MVP ten dollars to win you about eleven,

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01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 1: so it's plus one ten Nicole Yokich. If you're feeling saucy,

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01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 1: he's about eight and a half to one, So one

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01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 1: hundred dollars will bring you back about eight hundred and

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01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,600
Speaker 1: fifty dollars maybe a little bit more in that. The

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01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 1: honest is in the same boat. And if you're really

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01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 1: feeling saucy, you can bet Jason Tatum. He's he's like twenty,

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01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 1: he's two hundred and one. That neighborhoods to ten dollars

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01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 1: to bringing about about two thousand back if you just

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01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 1: but I don't think that's that's gonna get there. By

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01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: the way, I thought it was a great NCA March

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01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 1: Madness tournament. And if you're a better you realize how

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01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 1: hard it is to win now and why the Lions

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01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 1: were so sharp. There were sixty five games played the

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01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 1: tournament favorites win thirty two thirty two and one. That's

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01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 1: pretty tough to beat. And there were twenty seven overs

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01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 1: and forty yunders. So March Madness was a lot of fun,

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01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 1: as is the Masters. By the way, not for nothing.

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01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:46,679
Speaker 1: One better way it's two hundred and twenty two thousand

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Speaker 1: on Tiger Woods. To not win the Masters, that bet

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01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 1: will bring back a princely some of two thousand dollars.

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01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 1: Imagine betting two hundred and twenty two thousand to win

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01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 1: two thousand. Do you really need the money that much?

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01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 1: Or do you really just need the adrenaline high? Either way,

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01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 1: I don't get it coming up the Lamar Jackson deal.

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01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:06,560
Speaker 1: You may not get it. We'll wrap it up for you.

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01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 1: Tell you what's going on, keep it locked. This is

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Speaker 1: Bernie Fratto and Fox Sports Radio Sports Radio. Ye, well

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Speaker 1: that's right, you heard the man. That Bernie Fratto show

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Speaker 1: there's an old saying there are three types of people

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Speaker 1: in the world. Those who make things happen, those who

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01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 1: watch things happen, and those who wonder what happened when

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01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 1: you're talking about perhaps the most physically gifted, talented, dual

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01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 1: threat quarterback in the history of the National Football League.

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01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 1: Perhaps all three categories of why. Because the Lamar Jackson

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01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 1: saga continues to get more intense, and let me set

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01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:11,959
Speaker 1: this up, feel free not to play kill the messenger,

1635
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:16,679
Speaker 1: because I've said all along that I truly believe Lamar

1636
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 1: Jackson's fight has been misdirected because he's focused solely on

1637
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 1: the guaranteed money and to imply that the Ravens didn't

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01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 1: offer him anything or they don't want to sign him,

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01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to hear that noise. He offered him

1640
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty million, one hundred and thirty three

1641
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 1: million guaranteed. I get it. That may not be enough

1642
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 1: for him. Maybe he feels he's disrespected DeShawn Watson. He

1643
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 1: never won an MVP. Lamar Jackson has Deshaun Watson he

1644
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,680
Speaker 1: was in trouble. Lamar Jackson's never been in trouble. I

1645
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:52,680
Speaker 1: get it. I understand his rationale. People in hell want

1646
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 1: ice water. Looks like both of them might be out

1647
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 1: of luck. Here's why I think that Lamar Jackson's fight

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01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 1: is misdirected because history is shown the elite quarterbacks and

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01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's and elite quarterback top tier deals that elite

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01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:13,639
Speaker 1: quarterbacks like Lamar Jackson get when they signed them between

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01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 1: the age of twenty five and twenty seven. They collect

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01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 1: the full amount of the contract about ninety percent of

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01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 1: the time. Anyway, when you consider today's medical advancements, there's

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01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 1: almost never a career any injury for a quarterback, nor

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01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 1: he's in a situation where quarterback gets cut, certainly not

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01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:36,880
Speaker 1: of Lamar Jackson's ilk. And so he let's say Lamar

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01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 1: Jackson would have said, I'll take that two hundred and

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01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 1: fifty million dollar deal four years. I'm gonna be twenty

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01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 1: nine and thirty. I'll have another bite at the apple,

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01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 1: maybe we win a Super Bowl. My values even more.

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01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 1: But he didn't want to do that. See the Ravens intention,

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01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 1: I truly believe all along was just to merely provide

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01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 1: Lamar with a traditional National Football League top tier quarterback

1664
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 1: deal works for both sides. Not this Watson Cleveland, michigas

1665
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 1: outlier that is not the new market trendsetter. It's an outlier,

1666
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 1: Make no mistake. So that because Lamar wants so much,

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01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:16,559
Speaker 1: he's artificially made his market limited. Here's why, because if

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01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 1: you sign Lamar based on the non exclusive arrangement, a

1669
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,679
Speaker 1: team will be losing two first round draft picks. You'll

1670
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 1: be paying a massive annual salary, you compromise your draft

1671
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 1: capital lunatory, plus you potentially put yourself in salary cap hill,

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01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 1: and maybe you surround yourself with the Skeleton crew. He

1673
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 1: needs help. I get it. Lamar's otherworldly, but we have

1674
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 1: to tell the whole story. He has missed ten of

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01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 1: the last twenty two games, including a playoff game. And yes,

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01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 1: Lamars won forty five games in the regular season, and

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01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:51,639
Speaker 1: he is a true dual thread quarterback who operates very

1678
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 1: well from the pocket. Make no mistake, when Justin Fields

1679
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 1: grows up, he'll be lucky to be Lamar Jackson. Because

1680
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 1: Justin Fields is still a run first quarterback. He's a

1681
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:04,560
Speaker 1: college version of a dual threat quarterback. Lamar is a

1682
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 1: legitimate NFL version of an FL quarterback. I think he

1683
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 1: operates quite nicely from the pocket. He's still only one

1684
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 1: and three in the playoffs, so you gotta help. You've

1685
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 1: got to tell the whole story. And you're kidding yourself

1686
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,799
Speaker 1: if you don't think fellow general managers are, including the Ravens,

1687
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:27,759
Speaker 1: aren't slightly concerned about his durability. The numbers speak for themselves.

1688
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 1: What's the shame is that Lamar will not find a

1689
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 1: better environment than he had in Baltimore. I think John Harbaugh,

1690
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 1: when they write the history of books, will be the

1691
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:39,680
Speaker 1: best head coach fit Lamar would ever have. That's if

1692
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 1: he leaves sounds presumptuous. Maybe he won't leave, maybe he'll stay. Plus,

1693
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 1: the organization is very stable. They're ready to win now,

1694
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 1: They're always ready to win. And you've also got to

1695
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:54,680
Speaker 1: ask yourself when you get to December and January, are

1696
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:57,640
Speaker 1: you going to have a healthy Lamar Jackson? What if

1697
01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 1: I told you the last two December Newry seasons cumulatively

1698
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 1: there was a potential twelve games Lamar Jackson could have started. Yes,

1699
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:11,599
Speaker 1: how many he started? It rhymes with one. Plus. Lamar's

1700
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 1: taken over nine hundred and sixty two quarterback hits in

1701
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 1: his career. He's in Josh Allen territory. These guys have

1702
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:19,719
Speaker 1: been hit more than Rocky Bell Boy. You can only

1703
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:24,720
Speaker 1: take so many hits. So what's going on? So the

1704
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:28,679
Speaker 1: Ravens decided, Okay, I'll tell you what you really think.

1705
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 1: You got a situation here where you know, other other

1706
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 1: teams want you or whatever the case may be. Well,

1707
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 1: other teams are lining up to say no thanks. And

1708
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 1: the reason they're saying no thanks is simple because they

1709
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 1: can't afford it. Perhaps, and I know there was some

1710
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:53,759
Speaker 1: real teeth gnashing that when the when the Jets excuse

1711
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 1: not the Jets, Carolina camera ight out and Atlanta cameraight

1712
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 1: out and said, yeah, man, we don't, you know, we don't,

1713
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 1: we don't, we don't need him, and blah blah blah. Well,

1714
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:07,600
Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe maybe Atlanta was just trying to

1715
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 1: be loyal to their new draft choice, uh, Desmond Ritter,

1716
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 1: and maybe they don't want to they don't want to

1717
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 1: cast dispersions. Maybe maybe you've got a situation where, you know,

1718
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 1: Carolina is saying, hey, we moved up to number one.

1719
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:24,640
Speaker 1: We moved up to number one for a reason. We

1720
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 1: want to start over. We we just can't afford to

1721
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 1: go down this road. We can't afford to do this.

1722
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 1: And so one of the questions that's coming up is

1723
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:36,759
Speaker 1: is Lamar Jackson ready to maybe sit out the season?

1724
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's I think it's a

1725
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:43,680
Speaker 1: very I think it's a very convoluted situation. And I

1726
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 1: also think it's it's very complicated from the standpoint of

1727
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 1: neither side really wants to budge, both sides are stride,

1728
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 1: and both sides are dug in. The Ravens really need him.

1729
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:54,840
Speaker 1: They do have Tyler hunt Me behind them. I get

1730
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:58,640
Speaker 1: all that, but it's not the same. And and I

1731
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 1: think we we've brought beat this so much there's really

1732
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:05,600
Speaker 1: nothing left to say other than what are the opinions

1733
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:08,960
Speaker 1: involved here? What are people saying? What are people thinking?

1734
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:14,439
Speaker 1: From a standpoint of, you know, since you can't predict

1735
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 1: the future, what would you like to see happen? What

1736
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:20,760
Speaker 1: do you hope happens? And on that note, what I

1737
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:26,639
Speaker 1: think I'd like to do is bringing the crew and uh, Kevin,

1738
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 1: let's start with you. Uh you followed us pretty closely.

1739
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:33,040
Speaker 1: Where does this end up? I'm sorry, Bernie, if I'm

1740
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you, I'll stepped out and I

1741
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 1: just walked back in. So what what are we talking?

1742
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 1: We're talking about Lamar Jackson. Okay, we're talking about Lamar Jackson.

1743
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 1: And I basically laid out all the pros and cons

1744
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:48,639
Speaker 1: and what's happening here, and basically, you know, not only

1745
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 1: is he seeking a record setting contract and an acquiring

1746
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 1: team would have to give up two first round picks.

1747
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 1: And you know, on the other hand, if you're if

1748
01:30:57,320 --> 01:31:00,600
Speaker 1: you're the Ravens without Lamar Jackson, you don't want that

1749
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:03,439
Speaker 1: scenario either. But they look like they're making provisions and

1750
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 1: move forward without them. So what do you what are you?

1751
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 1: What are you seeing here? You know, what is your

1752
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 1: what does your gut senses tell you? I am My

1753
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 1: gut sense tells me that Baltimore is fully prepared to

1754
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 1: move on if they have to, when they're kind of

1755
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:18,280
Speaker 1: calling Lamar Jackson's bluff at this point. If you're looking

1756
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:21,519
Speaker 1: for this, you know, giant guaranteed contract with nobody seems

1757
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 1: to want to give you at this point in time,

1758
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 1: then what is your market? It doesn't seem like there

1759
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:27,880
Speaker 1: is a hefty market for him. So if that's the case,

1760
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 1: you know, we're talking last hour about Aaron Rodgers and

1761
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 1: who has leverage between green Bay and the Jets, and

1762
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:34,639
Speaker 1: it's obviously green Bay. I really don't see what leverage

1763
01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:37,559
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson has here. If you're Baltimore and the cost

1764
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 1: that comes out this week and says they're looking at

1765
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:41,720
Speaker 1: first at quarterbacks, potentially as early in the first round,

1766
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:45,640
Speaker 1: they can move on. They can look. We know, offensively,

1767
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:47,800
Speaker 1: there's so much better than with lam than Lamar Jackson

1768
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:49,639
Speaker 1: is in the lineup. We've talked about that at nauseum,

1769
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 1: how their numbers are better and all that, But they're

1770
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 1: also not going to be allowed allow themselves to be

1771
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 1: held hostage by them. So I think if they're sitting

1772
01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:59,200
Speaker 1: in the catbird seed right now, you know, Lamar Jackson

1773
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 1: has no market, has the franchise tag. He can choose

1774
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:03,800
Speaker 1: to sign it. He can choose to set out for

1775
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:05,640
Speaker 1: a year and pull the leveon bell if he wants too.

1776
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:08,400
Speaker 1: Though I think most people would not recommend that boy.

1777
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:11,160
Speaker 1: So absent of signing the tender and showing up the

1778
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 1: camp and playing on playing basically approved me here. You know,

1779
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what other options Lamar Jackson has, so

1780
01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 1: I don't see how he could possibly have you upperhand

1781
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 1: in this. Yeah, well said Kevin Patrick, You have any

1782
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:23,680
Speaker 1: thoughts on it? Yeah, I kind of agree with what

1783
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:27,680
Speaker 1: Kevin said, just because Lamar Jackson's kind of in a

1784
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 1: rock and a hard place because absolutely zero anybody is

1785
01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:34,960
Speaker 1: showing any like interest in I mean, they're interested in

1786
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 1: just you know, his talent, but it's just the whole

1787
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 1: contract situation thing that no one's really biting on that

1788
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 1: right now. And Baltimore is kind of like, all right,

1789
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:47,160
Speaker 1: if you can wait, wait, we're you know, sign the

1790
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:50,040
Speaker 1: sign the franchise tender and if not and all this,

1791
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:52,599
Speaker 1: if we'll try and trade you. But they're kind of

1792
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:54,400
Speaker 1: just you know, they're kind of they have the cards here,

1793
01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:58,280
Speaker 1: not Lamar. Yeah, it's gonna be really interesting to see

1794
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:05,320
Speaker 1: where this goes because the market really is not lining up.

1795
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:07,600
Speaker 1: But it's not because they wouldn't want Lamar in a

1796
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:11,479
Speaker 1: perfect world. It's a situation where there's no real good

1797
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 1: scenario where they can afford him. And I think a

1798
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 1: lot of gms have spoken out on this, and we're

1799
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:19,200
Speaker 1: gonna get to that coming up. But I would just

1800
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:23,799
Speaker 1: say this that it would be a shame, I really believe,

1801
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:26,759
Speaker 1: and a lot of folks are saying, well, Lamar should

1802
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,599
Speaker 1: have an agent. I don't even know if it would matter,

1803
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why, because he's so dug in

1804
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 1: knowing truly what he wants, that an ager can try

1805
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 1: some some creative accounting, and an agent might be a

1806
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 1: good intermediary. But the truth of the matter is, I'm

1807
01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 1: not so sure an agent would even get this done.

1808
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:47,120
Speaker 1: They're not magicians. Had he had an agent from the beginning,

1809
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 1: going back eighteen months ago. And by the way, I

1810
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:53,720
Speaker 1: must say, the Ravens shorts aren't one percent clean here either,

1811
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 1: because Lamar Jackson is looking at what the Shaun Watson got.

1812
01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:00,679
Speaker 1: But the truth of the matter is he was eligible

1813
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:05,800
Speaker 1: for a contract renewal before Lamar Jackson even got his deal,

1814
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 1: and the Ravens elected not to do it. So there's

1815
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:10,800
Speaker 1: a little blame to go around on both sides. It

1816
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 1: does take two to tango. And when you look, you know,

1817
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 1: when you look at it, you are now starting to

1818
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:23,080
Speaker 1: see comments come from other owners, other gms, other reasons.

1819
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:25,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you heard, you heard the situation where Meek

1820
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 1: Mill texted Robert Kraft a week ago saying that Lamar,

1821
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 1: you know, would want to be a patriot. We don't

1822
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:34,960
Speaker 1: know if any that's true, and I will tell you

1823
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't think it ever, it ever really even comes

1824
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:39,640
Speaker 1: to that. The truth of the matter is, I mean

1825
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 1: even Dan Campbell, the head coach of the Lion, said, hey,

1826
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:45,040
Speaker 1: Lamar is a heck of a talent, right, But man,

1827
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:48,479
Speaker 1: we got a quarterback. Thank god, we do. We're good, right,

1828
01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 1: And then other gems started to weigh in. The Panthers,

1829
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:54,400
Speaker 1: they have a general manager by the name of Scott Fitter.

1830
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 1: He says, hey, look, we like Lamar, but he's a

1831
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 1: really expensive option. We just chose to trade up for

1832
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:02,639
Speaker 1: the number one pick, and uh, and we just can't.

1833
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:06,760
Speaker 1: We can't even looked that direction. We're more focused on

1834
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 1: our draft picks at this point. When a bill from

1835
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:10,800
Speaker 1: the ground up Joe Douglas and the Jets, I mean,

1836
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:14,519
Speaker 1: I think many people have speculated and said, wow, how

1837
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:17,879
Speaker 1: good might Lamar looking at Jets uniform? But Joe Douglas

1838
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 1: came out last week the jam of the Jets and said, quote,

1839
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:23,479
Speaker 1: it would be disingenuous and negotiating in bad faith if

1840
01:35:23,479 --> 01:35:25,599
Speaker 1: we were going to pivot from Aaron Rodgers to Jackson.

1841
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 1: Even Pete Carroll, an open minded guy, said recently, we

1842
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:31,960
Speaker 1: just can't afford him. End a story. The Raiders ended

1843
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:35,679
Speaker 1: up grabbing Jimmy Garoppolo. The Saints went with Derek Carr Theloncher,

1844
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:39,840
Speaker 1: sticking with Jared Goff, Kyle Shanahan even though he's got

1845
01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:42,760
Speaker 1: Brock Purty coming off of surgery in Sam Darneld, and

1846
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:44,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if Trey Lance'll ever making this league.

1847
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 1: He said, we're pretty set at quarterback. Then you got

1848
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:53,400
Speaker 1: Miami's coach, Mike McDaniel. He's not pursuing. He shut that down.

1849
01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 1: He is really all in on to a tug of

1850
01:35:57,240 --> 01:35:59,799
Speaker 1: a low and they picked up his fifth year option,

1851
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:02,759
Speaker 1: the very thing that Green Bay didn't do with Jordan

1852
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:04,919
Speaker 1: Love and even Tampa Bay, who could use a quarterback,

1853
01:36:05,320 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles. He said his team's got about two million

1854
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:10,080
Speaker 1: dollars a cap space. He says, we can't do it.

1855
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:13,639
Speaker 1: We've got to focus on getting under the cap. And

1856
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 1: he said, what the only thing we would be able

1857
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 1: to offer Lamar Jackson, the bottom line, it would be

1858
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:23,120
Speaker 1: an insult. So we're gonna we're gonna go to war

1859
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:26,760
Speaker 1: with Baker Mayfield and Kyle Trask and even Ron Rivera.

1860
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:29,639
Speaker 1: Now their team is up for sale, and he even

1861
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:33,479
Speaker 1: he admitted we never really did consider Lamar Jackson. They

1862
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:35,880
Speaker 1: ended up signing Jacobe Percent. They gotten for Raydon Minn

1863
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:38,640
Speaker 1: and he's gonna compete with Sam Sam Hall for the

1864
01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:42,799
Speaker 1: starting job. That only leaves four teams that possibly make sense,

1865
01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:45,320
Speaker 1: and I'll share those with you, but I think they're

1866
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:49,599
Speaker 1: all long shots. As the Lamar Jackson Siah continues, I'm

1867
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:52,080
Speaker 1: Bernie Fratto will come to you alive from the Las

1868
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 1: Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked right here.

1869
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 1: You listened to the Bernie Fratto Show on Fox Sports Radio.

1870
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:09,160
Speaker 1: Back on the Bernie Fatal Show Fox Sports Radio. Coming.

1871
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:11,439
Speaker 1: You're live from the tire Act dot Com studios here

1872
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, talking about Lamar Jackson. And we are

1873
01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:21,880
Speaker 1: now hearing from fellow owners, federal, fellow general managers and

1874
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:27,200
Speaker 1: like giving what they believe in legitimate reasons why teams

1875
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:29,240
Speaker 1: are not lining up to sign Lamar Jackson, and they

1876
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 1: appear to be legitimate. There are really only four teams

1877
01:37:32,040 --> 01:37:35,280
Speaker 1: at this point that would even make sense that this

1878
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 1: is part of the group think echo chamber, the Patriots, Colts, Texans,

1879
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 1: and Falcons, But as of now, none of those teams

1880
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:46,519
Speaker 1: have shown the least bit of interest. Now, neither Robert

1881
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 1: Kraft nor Bill Belichick ever said nolo explicitly they would

1882
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:54,640
Speaker 1: not sign Jackson, but I think the consensuses it'd be

1883
01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 1: a surprise if they gave on mac Jones. He's got

1884
01:37:56,920 --> 01:37:59,760
Speaker 1: a cheap contract, He's slated to make two million, He'll

1885
01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:03,559
Speaker 1: be joined with Bill O'Brien. Anything would be better than

1886
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:06,720
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia. I look for mac Jones to rebound. The

1887
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:09,880
Speaker 1: Texans are desperate for a quarterback, there's no question, and

1888
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:12,840
Speaker 1: that could actually bring it some real buzz. They've had

1889
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:15,040
Speaker 1: two brutal seasons back to back. They have two first

1890
01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:18,960
Speaker 1: round draft draft picks to play with, and their new

1891
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:20,760
Speaker 1: coach to Miko Ryan's, who I think is going to

1892
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:22,960
Speaker 1: do a great job, by the way he says, we

1893
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:25,880
Speaker 1: look at all options for our team. But I think

1894
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:28,960
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear the Texans would rather draft a younger,

1895
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:32,519
Speaker 1: cheaper quarterback with the number two pick, whether it be

1896
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:34,760
Speaker 1: Bryce Young or c J. Strout. It looks like they're

1897
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:37,160
Speaker 1: gonna get one of those two, and they'll lock them

1898
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 1: up four years, thirty six million as opposed to two

1899
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:42,360
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million. Right, So, I don't think Houston.

1900
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:47,519
Speaker 1: You can scratch Lamarck and scratch Houston off his draft card.

1901
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:52,240
Speaker 1: There was some talk there that the Colts would make sense.

1902
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:55,759
Speaker 1: Why because Hey, maybe they're getting sick tired of cycling

1903
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:59,679
Speaker 1: through quarterbacks. They cycled through four quarterbacks and four years

1904
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:03,400
Speaker 1: not seem to have worked out. But now as we

1905
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:06,760
Speaker 1: get closer the draft is two weeks from Thursday, they

1906
01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:09,920
Speaker 1: appear to be leaning towards maybe an Anthony Richards and

1907
01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:12,799
Speaker 1: maybe a Will Levis, but they're leaning toward the draft,

1908
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:16,200
Speaker 1: and I think Jim, even Jim Mercy, who's kind of

1909
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:19,680
Speaker 1: a maverick, has said, look, we get it right. If

1910
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 1: you have a rookie quarterback, you got a rookie deal.

1911
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:26,240
Speaker 1: You have those extra dollars to work with to make

1912
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:29,320
Speaker 1: your team better. And what's interesting is there were a

1913
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 1: lot of folks who actually thought the Atlanta Falcons would

1914
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:35,880
Speaker 1: be more fervent players for Lamar Jackson, because I remember

1915
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 1: they went after the Shawn Watson pretty hard last year.

1916
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 1: They just got out of bed budded desperate Cleveland Browns.

1917
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:46,400
Speaker 1: That's a fact. So Atlanta has a depth chart that

1918
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:50,520
Speaker 1: needs that has holes everywhere. You're you're going to probably

1919
01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:53,519
Speaker 1: hand the keys to Desmond Ritter, and his backup will

1920
01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:58,360
Speaker 1: be Taylor Heineke and Ritters certainly unproven in Heineke's okay,

1921
01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 1: but he's got a ceiling. They've got to backfill. Atlanta's

1922
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:04,880
Speaker 1: got to put pieces parts around those two guys. They

1923
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:08,280
Speaker 1: need they need defense, they need offense, they need everything.

1924
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:12,520
Speaker 1: And I realized that Lamar Jackson would frankly be very

1925
01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 1: He'd be massively popular Atlanta, not for the least of

1926
01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:19,599
Speaker 1: which he would be compared the inevitable comparisons to Michael

1927
01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:22,880
Speaker 1: Vick rights, he would be Michael Vick two point one.

1928
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:26,599
Speaker 1: Who wouldn't love to see that uh in Atlanta. But

1929
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:30,000
Speaker 1: it's just not It's not in the cards. And he did.

1930
01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:34,720
Speaker 1: I know that some Falcons fans would say, wow, you

1931
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:37,240
Speaker 1: put you put Lamar Jackson on our team and were

1932
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:40,000
Speaker 1: the instant favorites in the NFC South, which is fairly weak,

1933
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:44,000
Speaker 1: and the Falcons, I doubt they would even draft a

1934
01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:46,360
Speaker 1: quarterback this year, but they would be drafting to Limberate anyway.

1935
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:49,160
Speaker 1: And you got Desmond Ridder, like I said, right. And

1936
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:52,559
Speaker 1: so when when Arthur Blank that the Falcons owner, said

1937
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:55,479
Speaker 1: he was out on Jackson, and he was pretty candid.

1938
01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:57,240
Speaker 1: He said he didn't like the fact that Jackson had

1939
01:40:57,240 --> 01:41:00,680
Speaker 1: missed eleven games in the last two seasons, including playoffs.

1940
01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:03,400
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, I realized that we went after Deshaun

1941
01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:07,080
Speaker 1: Watson last year, a different player at different time, different situation.

1942
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 1: There's no question blank Fields Jackson's one of the top

1943
01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:13,479
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league. But there is concern about health

1944
01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:15,640
Speaker 1: and you can debate that all day long. But the

1945
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:19,679
Speaker 1: facts as facts, and he has missed games. So where

1946
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:21,920
Speaker 1: does he end up? And by the way, there's no

1947
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 1: way he was ever going to be a Raider. I

1948
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:27,040
Speaker 1: know people even talked about that, but Josh McDaniels got

1949
01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:29,400
Speaker 1: himself Jimmy Garoppolo and you get the drift all I mean.

1950
01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:32,439
Speaker 1: So there you have it. His options are very limited,

1951
01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:34,800
Speaker 1: but you know, you never know what can happen. You

1952
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:38,360
Speaker 1: learn to expect the unexpected. The reason we love sports

1953
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:40,360
Speaker 1: in this country is because we don't have royalty in

1954
01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:42,879
Speaker 1: this country. Our athletes and our entertainers are our royalty.

1955
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:46,160
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is part of that. So we're curious. If

1956
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:49,480
Speaker 1: he doesn't stand Baltimore and he doesn't sit out war,

1957
01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:52,160
Speaker 1: does he end up? Kevin figures all start with you.

1958
01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:56,759
Speaker 1: If you could envision a possibility of Lamar Jackson actually

1959
01:41:56,840 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 1: being elsewhere in twenty twenty four, what would be the

1960
01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:02,880
Speaker 1: most likely destination and your view and why, Well, I

1961
01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:05,080
Speaker 1: will say the one that makes the most sense, which

1962
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:07,280
Speaker 1: you alluded to, would have been Atlanta. I mean, they

1963
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:09,400
Speaker 1: were all in on the Deshaun Watson sweepstakes and he

1964
01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:11,840
Speaker 1: got the guaranteed deal. I know Arthur Blak talked about

1965
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:14,680
Speaker 1: the health issue with Lamar Jackson, but he's obviously a

1966
01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:17,519
Speaker 1: dynamic player and would fit seamlessly into Arthur Smith's offense,

1967
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:19,840
Speaker 1: So he would make the most sense for them. I

1968
01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 1: think the Indianpolis Colts is probably the most likely destination.

1969
01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 1: You know, they had highest patations going into last year's thing.

1970
01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:28,839
Speaker 1: As you mentioned, things fell apart, especially at the quarterback

1971
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:31,600
Speaker 1: position for them. He would offer some stability, some playmaking,

1972
01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:34,360
Speaker 1: you get them inside and a dome on that surface.

1973
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:37,200
Speaker 1: They have talent on that roster. You know, they've made

1974
01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:39,120
Speaker 1: the playoffs the year before. It came on the cusp

1975
01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:41,080
Speaker 1: of making the playoffs the year before before the losing

1976
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:43,960
Speaker 1: on the final weekend against Jacksonville. So that would of

1977
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:45,720
Speaker 1: the teams that you threw out there, that's the one

1978
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:48,400
Speaker 1: that would make the most sense. Now, whether Jammercy actually

1979
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 1: pulls the trigger and does it, we'll have to wait

1980
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:52,880
Speaker 1: and see. But I think of those options, I think Indianapolis,

1981
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:55,400
Speaker 1: because of the roster makeup and because I think they're

1982
01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:58,920
Speaker 1: ready to compete in that division with the quarterback, that

1983
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:01,760
Speaker 1: would make the most sense for me. Yeah, and it

1984
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:05,920
Speaker 1: would make sense. Then reality raises its head and Jim

1985
01:43:05,960 --> 01:43:08,920
Speaker 1: Mercy actually came out this in the past couple of

1986
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:11,160
Speaker 1: weeks basically saying, well, we think we're gonna go to

1987
01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:14,200
Speaker 1: the rookie route because, uh, you know, we get a

1988
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:17,559
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback on a rookie deal, you know, either through

1989
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:20,439
Speaker 1: the draft or whatever. You've got a situation now where

1990
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:24,840
Speaker 1: we can build around him. And good luck to the Colts. Uh.

1991
01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:26,720
Speaker 1: The reason I agree with it. They might make sense

1992
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:31,599
Speaker 1: is because they've you know, played you know, musical chairs

1993
01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:33,760
Speaker 1: with four quarterbacks in the last four years, cycled through

1994
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:35,680
Speaker 1: all of them. None of them worked out. That's just

1995
01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:37,840
Speaker 1: a fact. None of them worked out. Lamar Jackson would

1996
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:41,880
Speaker 1: have been something there. But again, when you price yourself out,

1997
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:45,280
Speaker 1: and I think that's what we have here. Uh, that's

1998
01:43:45,439 --> 01:43:49,479
Speaker 1: that's the reason why he there. You know, this has

1999
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:51,920
Speaker 1: been at a complete standstill. Patrick, you got the last

2000
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:55,719
Speaker 1: word on this. Yeah, Yeah, I agree that the Colts

2001
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 1: would be a really good fit just because they're honestly

2002
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:02,880
Speaker 1: kind of that offense that was just stuttering around and

2003
01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 1: they were a really good quarterback from moving that offense

2004
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:09,640
Speaker 1: and being a lot better consistently, and then, uh, you know,

2005
01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:13,000
Speaker 1: that would help their supposedly really really good defense, you know,

2006
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:15,000
Speaker 1: kind of find a little bit of balance. They wouldn't

2007
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:17,519
Speaker 1: be always out on the field. So with that saying,

2008
01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:20,080
Speaker 1: Jim Mercy and the Colts would be, you know, the

2009
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:22,960
Speaker 1: better fit. I do agree though that the Falcons is

2010
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:26,840
Speaker 1: a really really good fit as well, with just Arthur

2011
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:31,000
Speaker 1: Smith's offensive scheme there, and they have some young weapons

2012
01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:36,439
Speaker 1: with up hits and when Drake London, yeah, we'll just

2013
01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:37,800
Speaker 1: have to wait to see what happens. Is you get

2014
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:40,040
Speaker 1: a tweet from a Jairhawk he said, this is a

2015
01:44:40,120 --> 01:44:44,880
Speaker 1: lose lose. I agree. Unless the Ravens resend the franchise tag,

2016
01:44:45,479 --> 01:44:48,120
Speaker 1: there's a thirty two point four million dollar capol this year,

2017
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 1: and if they tag him with the non exclusive next season,

2018
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:52,920
Speaker 1: the amount of creasies to thirty eight point eight million.

2019
01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:56,639
Speaker 1: There are consequences. No one wins, no one does win. However,

2020
01:44:56,960 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 1: they're not going to resend the non exclusive tag this year.

2021
01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 1: And you know, you could go to Kirk Cousins route,

2022
01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:04,599
Speaker 1: you'd be tag two three years in our own guarantee

2023
01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:06,559
Speaker 1: yourself of ball almost one hundred bion dollars and still

2024
01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 1: sign a long term deal. I don't think Lamar Jackson

2025
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:14,360
Speaker 1: wants it. He's got a sightset on getting what you know,

2026
01:45:14,520 --> 01:45:16,960
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson gotten man. He's serious about it. And I

2027
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:20,679
Speaker 1: would just say this, it's not a matter of ability,

2028
01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 1: it's not a matter of talent. It's not a matter

2029
01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:25,920
Speaker 1: of the dynamic nature of perhaps the most physically gifted

2030
01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:29,960
Speaker 1: dual threat quarterback to ever play the problem. And I've

2031
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:32,360
Speaker 1: said this for a minute. One Lamar Jackson's fight is

2032
01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:36,200
Speaker 1: misdirected because he's focused solely unguaranteed money. And history will

2033
01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:39,320
Speaker 1: show the lead quarterbacks that get top tier deals between

2034
01:45:39,320 --> 01:45:41,160
Speaker 1: the age of twenty five and twenty seven collect the

2035
01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:44,120
Speaker 1: full amount of the contract ninety percent of the time. Anyway,

2036
01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:48,000
Speaker 1: So we shall see what we shall see. But boy,

2037
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:49,439
Speaker 1: this is a tug of war of the likes I

2038
01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:51,320
Speaker 1: haven't seen in a long time. If I can never

2039
01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:54,639
Speaker 1: remember coming up. It's a whole new ball game. There

2040
01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:57,120
Speaker 1: are a hundred games in the books. How are the

2041
01:45:57,200 --> 01:46:02,040
Speaker 1: new rules in baseball firing the numbers tell us, I'll

2042
01:46:02,080 --> 01:46:04,519
Speaker 1: have that for you, but first let's go back to

2043
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:07,000
Speaker 1: our guy, Kevin figures with the ladies, Okay, Bernie. In

2044
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:09,640
Speaker 1: the NBA, the Eastern Conference playing matchups are set in

2045
01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:12,160
Speaker 1: stone after a win by the Bulls and losses by

2046
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:15,800
Speaker 1: Toronto and Miami. The way it shakes out, on Tuesday night,

2047
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:18,799
Speaker 1: Miami will host Atlanta in the seven verses eight matchup.

2048
01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:21,879
Speaker 1: The nine ten game will feature the Raptors hosting Chicago.

2049
01:46:21,960 --> 01:46:24,400
Speaker 1: The bottom of the Western Conference standings still up in

2050
01:46:24,439 --> 01:46:27,120
Speaker 1: the air at this point. Warriors defeated Sacramento, who rested

2051
01:46:27,160 --> 01:46:29,839
Speaker 1: many of their starters on Friday night, while the Lakers

2052
01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:32,920
Speaker 1: defeated a Phoenix team they arrested Chris Paul, Kevin Durant,

2053
01:46:32,920 --> 01:46:35,840
Speaker 1: Devin Booker, and DeAndre Ayton. Lakers a half game behind

2054
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:37,720
Speaker 1: the Clippers for the sixth seed, while the Clippers are

2055
01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:40,040
Speaker 1: behind Golden State for the fifth spot. Clips have two

2056
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:42,320
Speaker 1: games remaining on their schedule, while the Warriors and Lakers

2057
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:45,000
Speaker 1: each have one. Second round of the Masters will suspended

2058
01:46:45,080 --> 01:46:46,920
Speaker 1: due to weather, where the Brooks Kepka one of the

2059
01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:50,120
Speaker 1: few who actually finished their round. The leader at twelve

2060
01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:53,000
Speaker 1: under for the tournament plays sets to resume this morning

2061
01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:56,120
Speaker 1: around eight am Eastern time. Cut line is currently projected

2062
01:46:56,120 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 1: to be two overpar, which is where a Tiger Woods

2063
01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:01,760
Speaker 1: currently sits with seven holes remained in his round. Back

2064
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:05,760
Speaker 1: to Bernie Frido, all right, thanks Kevin. All right, so

2065
01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:10,519
Speaker 1: baseball is well underway. They're heading into Friday. There had

2066
01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:13,960
Speaker 1: been a hundred games played, and I guess the headline is,

2067
01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:17,240
Speaker 1: it's a whole new ball game. How's that original? But

2068
01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 1: the truth of the matter is, with one week of

2069
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:21,320
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball games in the books, baseball does look

2070
01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:23,200
Speaker 1: a lot different, or it looks used to the game

2071
01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:26,360
Speaker 1: I loved growing up and even up until, you know,

2072
01:47:26,439 --> 01:47:30,760
Speaker 1: probably fifteen twenty years ago. But baseball looks a lot

2073
01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:33,320
Speaker 1: differently than it has in the past to many folks.

2074
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:38,120
Speaker 1: And it's maybe not immediately obvious to the naked ail

2075
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:40,000
Speaker 1: though if you go to a game, you do see.

2076
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:44,840
Speaker 1: The pace is better, there's less standing around between pitches.

2077
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:47,479
Speaker 1: The pitcher gets the ball throws it, and that's not

2078
01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:50,679
Speaker 1: just one of the rule changes, the pain the pitch clock.

2079
01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:53,439
Speaker 1: But the numbers are showing, and yeah, you can say

2080
01:47:53,439 --> 01:47:55,360
Speaker 1: it's a small sample, but it is one hundred games.

2081
01:47:55,720 --> 01:47:59,320
Speaker 1: The numbers are telling, and it's too early at this

2082
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:04,000
Speaker 1: point to make a lot of sweeping judgments about how

2083
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:09,440
Speaker 1: you know how these rules will impact the game over

2084
01:48:09,560 --> 01:48:14,160
Speaker 1: the course of the entire season. But let's look at

2085
01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:19,280
Speaker 1: some stats that are genuine indicators, starting with offense, and

2086
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:23,320
Speaker 1: the early returns are pretty clear. Offense is way up.

2087
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:27,720
Speaker 1: It's on the rise significantly, and usually when you think

2088
01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:31,320
Speaker 1: about this, offense is typically depressed or down during the

2089
01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:33,640
Speaker 1: first month of the season because you know, weather in

2090
01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:36,280
Speaker 1: other things. But when you look at the league wide

2091
01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:38,400
Speaker 1: batting average during March and April, and the reason where

2092
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:40,000
Speaker 1: counting March and April is because it gives us a

2093
01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:43,320
Speaker 1: fair comparison to past years, So all of spring training

2094
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Speaker 1: and then into April, for example, the batting average last

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Speaker 1: year was eleven points lower than the full season average,

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Speaker 1: but so far compared to the last season, the batting

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Speaker 1: average is up sixteen points versus last year at this time,

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01:48:58,000 --> 01:49:01,519
Speaker 1: and that's quite a significant difference. When you consider in

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Speaker 1: March in April it's cold pitching as they had a

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Speaker 1: hitting etc. But the league batting average is up sixteen point.

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Speaker 1: It makes sense. Part of it is because the defensive shifts.

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Speaker 1: Hitters are having a little bit easier time finding holes

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Speaker 1: to pick up base hits, and so because offenses up,

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Speaker 1: scoring is up. Teams are not scoring a little over

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Speaker 1: four point five runs per game. Now, that's a bit

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Speaker 1: of a modest increase over four point two runs per

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Speaker 1: game last year, but it's a big increase when you

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Speaker 1: consider when you factor in both March and April, just

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Speaker 1: a little over four runs a game. That's a half

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Speaker 1: a run of game more. And yes, it's a hundred games,

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Speaker 1: and you can say that the sample size is small,

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Speaker 1: perhaps extremely small, when you only played one hundred games,

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Speaker 1: and when you consider a full season it's just under

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Speaker 1: twenty five hundred games. Numbers are subject to change. But

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Speaker 1: on the other hand, they could get even better offensive

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01:49:56,280 --> 01:49:59,040
Speaker 1: because once the weather warms up and the ball travels

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01:49:59,080 --> 01:50:02,680
Speaker 1: better and y are getting into their groove, it could

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Speaker 1: be even better for offense, which is which the fans

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Speaker 1: I think will like stolen bases an art form back

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Speaker 1: in the game. This is a trend that has changed dramatically.

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Speaker 1: I think it's more likely to increase, and it's based

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Speaker 1: on decision making more than you know. The the hitter

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01:50:19,680 --> 01:50:24,400
Speaker 1: pitcher matchup, because you've now got a situation where they

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01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:26,720
Speaker 1: you know, not only did the pitcher you have to

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Speaker 1: get rid of the ball and eighteen seconds and such,

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01:50:29,360 --> 01:50:32,040
Speaker 1: but he can only move to first base twice. And

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Speaker 1: we are seeing now that base stealers are more brazen.

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01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:38,120
Speaker 1: They're ravaging one point four steals per game this season

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01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:41,519
Speaker 1: compared to just about one steel per game last season.

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Speaker 1: Stealing attempts have increased at the same rate, and part

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01:50:45,160 --> 01:50:47,760
Speaker 1: of that is attributed to the larger bases. I get it.

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01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:51,120
Speaker 1: They made bigger bases. That are you know, the distance

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Speaker 1: between the bases now it's four and a half inches,

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01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:56,519
Speaker 1: so you know, ninety feet between the bases at four

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01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:58,320
Speaker 1: and a half inches could be the difference could be

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01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:00,840
Speaker 1: a game of inches. And also, I know there's a

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01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:03,920
Speaker 1: side note. They wanted to do improve players safety, but

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Speaker 1: they also wanted to increase stolen base attempts, all right,

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01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:09,479
Speaker 1: So the new basis three inches wider than the old ones,

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Speaker 1: so the distance is shorter. That's a tiny distance over

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Speaker 1: the course of ninety feet, but think of how many

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01:51:14,360 --> 01:51:17,719
Speaker 1: steals are bang bang plays, so those can be valuable inches.

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Speaker 1: You couple that with limit on pickoff moves that comes

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Speaker 1: along with the pitch clock, the larger base. Well, it's

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01:51:25,160 --> 01:51:28,080
Speaker 1: frankly easier to steal bases now than it ever has been.

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Speaker 1: And if you don't believe me, look at the successful

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Speaker 1: percentage rate, which is now eighty one percent. And if

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Speaker 1: you compare that with the last ten years the stolen

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01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:42,879
Speaker 1: based success rate hovered around I don't know, seventy two percent.

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01:51:43,200 --> 01:51:46,600
Speaker 1: That's a dramatic increase. You know who stolen you know

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01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:48,559
Speaker 1: who was successful with the one percent of the time.

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01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:51,960
Speaker 1: Ricky Henderson, the greatest base stealers of all time, still

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Speaker 1: one hundred and eighteen bases in nineteen eighty two, probably

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01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:57,479
Speaker 1: a record. I don't know if it'll ever be broken,

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01:51:57,600 --> 01:51:59,200
Speaker 1: And if someone does it, I don't know who the

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01:51:59,200 --> 01:52:01,320
Speaker 1: hell's going to get sa green light that much. Ricky

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01:52:01,320 --> 01:52:03,840
Speaker 1: could could do it whenever he wanted, and he earned it.

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01:52:05,400 --> 01:52:08,360
Speaker 1: And so all of a sudden, now if Ricky Henderson's

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Speaker 1: success ate his eighty one and the season cumulative average

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01:52:12,439 --> 01:52:14,360
Speaker 1: so far and one hundred games has been eighty one percent,

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Speaker 1: they're all a bunch of Ricky Henderson's out there. So

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01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:19,479
Speaker 1: you can't tell me these rules have not affected it.

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01:52:19,520 --> 01:52:22,200
Speaker 1: In a in a you know what I would consider

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01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:24,760
Speaker 1: to be a very positive way for the offense. Right,

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Speaker 1: and take a guy like labor Tours. He his first

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Speaker 1: five season, he stole thirty six bases cumulatively. All right, well,

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01:52:34,680 --> 01:52:37,160
Speaker 1: he'd steal about he'd steal a base about every ten

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Speaker 1: games or so. This year, labor Tours, he has glabor Tours.

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Speaker 1: He's tired for the Major League Baseball steals lead through

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Speaker 1: his first six games. He stole five in his first

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Speaker 1: six games. Now get it, He's not gonna keep up

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01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:53,000
Speaker 1: that pace, or glabor Tourist would end up one hundred

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01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:54,760
Speaker 1: and thirty five steals this year. But the point is,

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Speaker 1: players who might out have previously been eager to steal

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01:52:58,240 --> 01:53:02,640
Speaker 1: are now more empowered to which now leads us to

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01:53:02,680 --> 01:53:05,559
Speaker 1: another surject speed, which has always been big in baseball.

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Speaker 1: It's becoming an increasingly invaluable skill. Right. There's no question

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Speaker 1: teams that are aggressive on base pass you get out

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01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 1: the hot starts, you load it up, you get men

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01:53:15,120 --> 01:53:17,840
Speaker 1: on base, you threaten the defense, give you an opportunity

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01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:21,120
Speaker 1: to put up critical numbers of crooked numbers in an inning,

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01:53:21,160 --> 01:53:24,840
Speaker 1: and steals are up, actually in crucial moments. Of games,

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01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:27,400
Speaker 1: and in recent years it was you know, the Earl

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01:53:27,439 --> 01:53:31,880
Speaker 1: Waiver pitching defense, three run homers. Relievers took a long time.

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01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:34,320
Speaker 1: They were very delivered between pitches because they threw hard

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01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:36,560
Speaker 1: and they want to do max out their deliveries, to

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01:53:36,640 --> 01:53:39,400
Speaker 1: max out on velocity. Now they got to get exposed.

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01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:40,960
Speaker 1: They're going to be exposed by the timer in the

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01:53:40,960 --> 01:53:43,760
Speaker 1: stolen base environment, maybe not as effective as they were.

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01:53:43,760 --> 01:53:46,519
Speaker 1: And then finally, and again it's one hundred of games,

2191
01:53:46,560 --> 01:53:50,320
Speaker 1: but the average length of all games last year about

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Speaker 1: three hours and three minutes. This year so far two

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Speaker 1: hours and thirty eight minutes. As a matter of fact,

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01:53:57,160 --> 01:54:02,479
Speaker 1: Sandy al Kantara, arguably the best pitcher in baseball, through

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01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:05,479
Speaker 1: a complete game shutout against the Twins the other day,

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01:54:05,880 --> 01:54:09,320
Speaker 1: took an hour and fifty seven minutes to play. That's

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01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:11,920
Speaker 1: only the sixth nine inning game in the past ten

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Speaker 1: years that took less than two hours. So the new rules,

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Speaker 1: they're having a dramatic effect. The fans like them. The

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01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:21,800
Speaker 1: numbers bear it out. The game is exciting, the game

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Speaker 1: has a quicker, faster pace, and certainly it's more enjoyable

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01:54:25,640 --> 01:54:29,559
Speaker 1: to you know, the people who watch the games on

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01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:31,920
Speaker 1: TV and the people come out to the ballpark because

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01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:34,760
Speaker 1: there's more offense, there's more action with less waiting around,

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01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:38,760
Speaker 1: and that's what fans want. Coming up, I saw the

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Speaker 1: Air movie. I want to share with you the tangible,

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01:54:43,320 --> 01:54:45,080
Speaker 1: visceral impact that had on me and some of the

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Speaker 1: great takeaways from the movie. In addition to being entertaining,

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Speaker 1: that uses the power story to share what I consider

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01:54:51,320 --> 01:54:54,600
Speaker 1: to be critical life lessons. I'm Bernie fradder where coming

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01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:56,800
Speaker 1: to your life from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios.

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Speaker 1: Keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie Fradders Show

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01:54:59,160 --> 01:55:12,160
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. We're wrapping it up on the

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01:55:12,160 --> 01:55:15,680
Speaker 1: Bernie Fratto Show, coming to you Alive from the tire

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Speaker 1: Act dot Com studios here Fox Sports Radio, Las Vegas, Nevada.

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Speaker 1: Before I go any further, I want to thank my

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Speaker 1: broadcast team. I'm back in Los Angeles. It would be

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01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:28,680
Speaker 1: Mark Ramsay, our technical producer, turning all the dials, keeping

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01:55:28,760 --> 01:55:31,760
Speaker 1: us gluing together. Kevin figure Is on the updates, and

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01:55:31,880 --> 01:55:36,600
Speaker 1: of course Patrick Sweeka joining us and great team work.

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Speaker 1: Guys could not do this show without you're helping, assistance

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01:55:40,920 --> 01:55:43,640
Speaker 1: and keeping the ship will float and the plane in

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01:55:43,640 --> 01:55:45,680
Speaker 1: the air. And that's all the cute analogies I can

2224
01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:48,200
Speaker 1: think of, but always appreciate your help. The guys have

2225
01:55:48,240 --> 01:55:52,360
Speaker 1: been with me since eleven pm Pacific on Friday night,

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01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:55,320
Speaker 1: and I'll be back on these airwaves later tonight eleven

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Speaker 1: pm Pacific as well with more hijinks. I saw the

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01:56:00,200 --> 01:56:04,080
Speaker 1: movie Air. The movie obviously you know the story, but

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01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:08,080
Speaker 1: you don't really know the story. And Michael Jordan changed

2230
01:56:08,120 --> 01:56:10,080
Speaker 1: the world because of the vision of a guy named

2231
01:56:10,120 --> 01:56:16,440
Speaker 1: Sonny Vicarro and the fight in will of Phil Knight

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01:56:16,600 --> 01:56:20,680
Speaker 1: and his team, and they did the unthinkable. Back in

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01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:24,920
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four, NI was a distant, distant, distant third

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01:56:24,960 --> 01:56:29,280
Speaker 1: to Converse and Adidas, and I really recommend to see

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01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:31,640
Speaker 1: the movie, not the least of which you are incredible

2236
01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:35,360
Speaker 1: life lessons and they provide reminders to me of some

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01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:40,560
Speaker 1: of the greatness we've seen in America. And I want

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01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:45,240
Speaker 1: to invoke that today because today's April eighth and forty

2239
01:56:45,320 --> 01:56:46,960
Speaker 1: nine years ago today, a guy by the name of

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01:56:47,000 --> 01:56:50,640
Speaker 1: Hank Aaron broke Babe Ruth's record. He hit his seven

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01:56:50,760 --> 01:56:55,000
Speaker 1: hundred and fifteenth home run. And what you see, what

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01:56:55,120 --> 01:56:59,200
Speaker 1: America mostly saw was the greatness and the glory and

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01:56:59,240 --> 01:57:03,080
Speaker 1: the celebration and the human interest story, the memory, the highlight.

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01:57:04,440 --> 01:57:08,040
Speaker 1: It was incredible. What you didn't see is the backstory,

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01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:15,240
Speaker 1: the indignities, the death threats, the racial slurs, the hate

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01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:18,160
Speaker 1: mail Hank Aaron got. I met at Hank Aaron. I

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01:57:18,280 --> 01:57:20,839
Speaker 1: spent part of an afternoon with him. Back in nineteen

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01:57:20,920 --> 01:57:23,680
Speaker 1: ninety one. I was part of a marketing team my boss,

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01:57:23,720 --> 01:57:27,600
Speaker 1: Mike Burkers, promoted the twelfth National Sports Collector's Convention and

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Speaker 1: Hank Aaron was one of the celebrities there and I

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Speaker 1: asked him about that, how he was able to keep

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01:57:33,840 --> 01:57:36,680
Speaker 1: his concentration, and he shared an interesting story with me

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01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:40,320
Speaker 1: that that wasn't the worst indignity he'd ever suffered. That

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01:57:40,400 --> 01:57:42,720
Speaker 1: actually when he was in the low Miami leagues in

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Speaker 1: the South, somewhere in Alabama, I believe at the time,

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Speaker 1: probably around nineteen fifty three. You know how rough it

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01:57:48,760 --> 01:57:54,800
Speaker 1: was for Hank back then, one particular road trip, the

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01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:57,480
Speaker 1: black players were allowed to eat with the white players,

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01:57:57,520 --> 01:58:00,200
Speaker 1: and as they finished their meal and were filing out,

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01:58:01,040 --> 01:58:04,080
Speaker 1: they heard these servers gathered up the dishes and they

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01:58:04,120 --> 01:58:08,120
Speaker 1: began smashing him against the wall. That really bothered Hankkaron.

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01:58:08,200 --> 01:58:11,120
Speaker 1: His exact words were, if dogs he'd eaten off those dishes,

2263
01:58:11,120 --> 01:58:14,160
Speaker 1: they would have washed them. That's the kind of a

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01:58:14,200 --> 01:58:16,200
Speaker 1: dignity he had to suffer. But I didn't stop him.

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01:58:16,880 --> 01:58:19,040
Speaker 1: It didn't stop from becoming the greatest Homer hitter of

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01:58:19,040 --> 01:58:20,760
Speaker 1: all time. And yeah, I get it, Barry Bonds and

2267
01:58:20,800 --> 01:58:22,400
Speaker 1: all that. I'm not going to go into that debate tonight,

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01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:26,200
Speaker 1: But Hankkaron was revered. I've never heard anybody saything bad

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Speaker 1: about Hankcaron period. I will tell you how I spent

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01:58:28,600 --> 01:58:30,160
Speaker 1: a half an hour with him, or a couple hours

2271
01:58:30,200 --> 01:58:33,400
Speaker 1: with him actually back and back at the convention in

2272
01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:38,960
Speaker 1: having nice conversations. An elegant man, and he was an overcomer.

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01:58:39,560 --> 01:58:42,560
Speaker 1: And that's sort of the theme of the movie. It's

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01:58:42,600 --> 01:58:47,400
Speaker 1: incredible because what you don't realize is what an amazing

2275
01:58:47,480 --> 01:58:50,160
Speaker 1: long shot. They take this in a very granular fashion

2276
01:58:50,680 --> 01:58:55,240
Speaker 1: about the incredible resistance they faced, the constant rejections, the

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01:58:55,360 --> 01:58:59,960
Speaker 1: obstacles of the setbacks. The movie did such a fun

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01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:02,960
Speaker 1: dominal job that even though you know the outcome, and

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01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:05,480
Speaker 1: I know a lot of the story. I met Sunny Vicarra,

2280
01:59:05,600 --> 01:59:07,520
Speaker 1: I know his brother Jimmy Vickarra runs the South Point

2281
01:59:07,520 --> 01:59:12,000
Speaker 1: along with Chris Andrews here in Las Vegas. But when

2282
01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:13,960
Speaker 1: they take you on the journey and use the power

2283
01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:16,400
Speaker 1: of story to give you the step by step, it's

2284
01:59:16,440 --> 01:59:19,560
Speaker 1: not only entertaining, it's not only informative, it's not only enjoyable.

2285
01:59:20,120 --> 01:59:22,720
Speaker 1: There's a tangible, visceral field of this movie that's unlike

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01:59:22,720 --> 01:59:24,840
Speaker 1: any I've seen in quite a while. I like that

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01:59:24,880 --> 01:59:27,360
Speaker 1: Hank Aaron's story I just told you and that this

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01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:30,680
Speaker 1: is very relatable to me because I come from a

2289
01:59:30,720 --> 01:59:35,160
Speaker 1: sport baseball, where there's failure every fifteen seconds. Pitcher fails

2290
01:59:35,160 --> 01:59:39,880
Speaker 1: to throw a strike, hitter fails to make contact, fielder

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01:59:39,880 --> 01:59:42,840
Speaker 1: fails to make a play, hitter fails to reach base,

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01:59:42,920 --> 01:59:45,760
Speaker 1: and it repeats over and over again. For well. It

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01:59:45,840 --> 01:59:47,560
Speaker 1: used to be three hours and three minutes. Now it's

2294
01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:49,560
Speaker 1: two hours from thirty eight minutes. But you get to drift.

2295
01:59:49,760 --> 01:59:52,240
Speaker 1: It repeats over and over till finally one team wins,

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01:59:53,360 --> 01:59:57,800
Speaker 1: which teaches you an important life lesson that one failure

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01:59:57,840 --> 02:00:02,040
Speaker 1: is never final and two on the roads of success,

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Speaker 1: failure is a necessary stepping stone. And once again, it's

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Speaker 1: not what happens, it's how you react. This story is

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Speaker 1: magical and It's one of the things not lost on

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Speaker 1: me that Matt Damon pointed out. And you know Michael

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Speaker 1: Jordan's career, one where or two numbers? He wore forty

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Speaker 1: five and he wore twenty three. When was the movie released?

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Speaker 1: Four five twenty three? Coincidence? I don't know. I get

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Speaker 1: a kick out of that kind of stuff. So that's

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02:00:30,480 --> 02:00:34,360
Speaker 1: another life lesson. Failure is never final. A third life

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Speaker 1: lesson that this movie teaches us is that and reminds us,

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02:00:38,600 --> 02:00:43,160
Speaker 1: is that whatever success we have in this life will

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Speaker 1: be done within the framework of a team. No one

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02:00:46,600 --> 02:00:50,720
Speaker 1: does it by themselves, even alone. Arranger had tomto and

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Speaker 1: you will see an exquisite team come together and everybody

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Speaker 1: play their roles. The fact that somehow Sonny Vicarroll got

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Speaker 1: the meeting with Michael Jordan's and by the way, that

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02:01:02,360 --> 02:01:05,520
Speaker 1: in and of itself is a story because when Ben

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Speaker 1: Affleck and Matt Damon approached Michael Jordan about the idea

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Speaker 1: of doing this movie, said Mike, we don't want to

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02:01:10,960 --> 02:01:12,720
Speaker 1: do it unless you're up for it. Well, no, it

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Speaker 1: sounds like a good idea, but there's one thing. What's

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02:01:15,280 --> 02:01:18,000
Speaker 1: that you gotta get Viola Davis to play my mom.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, Well, Violet Davis is the Babe Ruth and

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Speaker 1: Hank Aaron of acting. But fortunately she agreed. But had

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Speaker 1: she not been able to, had another obligation, or perhaps

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Speaker 1: didn't want to, there would have never been the movie made.

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Speaker 1: And I will tell you I can't imagine that movie

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Speaker 1: without Violet Davis because the scenes between Violet Davis, who

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Speaker 1: plays Michael George's mother, and Matt Damon, who plays Sonny

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Speaker 1: mccare are absolutely electric, And by the time they get

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Speaker 1: to those heartfelt scenes where these conversations are so intense,

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02:01:46,480 --> 02:01:52,640
Speaker 1: so pure, so authentic and real because this is recorded history,

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Speaker 1: This isn't some fantasy land. These things really happen. The

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02:01:56,720 --> 02:02:01,480
Speaker 1: payoff is incredible. But whatever success we will aspire to

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02:02:01,560 --> 02:02:03,440
Speaker 1: having this life will be done within the framework of

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Speaker 1: a team. Viole, Michael Jordan's mom, was part of that team.

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02:02:07,080 --> 02:02:10,360
Speaker 1: So it was Phil Knight, so with Sonday Vicarroll, so

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02:02:10,640 --> 02:02:12,800
Speaker 1: with the marketing people and the finance people and the

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Speaker 1: design people, and the pressure was on. They came through

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Speaker 1: the most. You know this movie is good because even

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Speaker 1: though you know the ending, the scenes are so tension

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02:02:23,040 --> 02:02:27,560
Speaker 1: filled and the drama builds to such a crescendo, you're

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02:02:27,560 --> 02:02:29,600
Speaker 1: sitting there asking yourself, wait a minute, maybe they don't

2341
02:02:29,600 --> 02:02:31,640
Speaker 1: really don't get this deal, and you already know they've

2342
02:02:31,640 --> 02:02:36,320
Speaker 1: gotten the deal. But once again, through the power of story,

2343
02:02:37,080 --> 02:02:44,080
Speaker 1: you have history and a recollection of a major event

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02:02:44,840 --> 02:02:48,560
Speaker 1: in our lives that actually took place, that truly changed

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02:02:48,600 --> 02:02:53,040
Speaker 1: the world. That is not hyperbole. Remember in our country

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02:02:53,200 --> 02:02:57,760
Speaker 1: we don't have royalty. Our athletes and our entertainers they

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02:02:57,840 --> 02:03:02,800
Speaker 1: are our royalty. Michael Jordan is royalty the world before

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Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty four, and the shoe that Michael Jordan

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02:03:06,880 --> 02:03:10,920
Speaker 1: was a part of making famous, which made Nike famous,

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02:03:10,960 --> 02:03:13,880
Speaker 1: which helped build the Jordan brand even further. This is

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02:03:13,880 --> 02:03:18,800
Speaker 1: before we ever want anything. These things a monitor royalty.

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02:03:19,440 --> 02:03:22,160
Speaker 1: So once again, the only axiom that I've always believed,

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Speaker 1: Give me a fact and I'll learn it. Tell me

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02:03:26,200 --> 02:03:29,920
Speaker 1: the truth and I'll believe it. But share a great story.

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Speaker 1: It's going to live in my heart the rest of

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Speaker 1: my life. I enjoyed Arab movies so much I might

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Speaker 1: even see it a second time. You already know the ending,

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02:03:39,680 --> 02:03:42,840
Speaker 1: But the journey that tells a story will compel you,

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02:03:43,240 --> 02:03:47,440
Speaker 1: and it's full of life lessons. Life's about failure and overcoming.

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02:03:47,560 --> 02:03:50,120
Speaker 1: Life's about whatever success we have will be within the

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02:03:50,120 --> 02:03:52,760
Speaker 1: framework of a team. And you just know that no

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02:03:52,880 --> 02:03:55,760
Speaker 1: greatness happens in this world, including Hank Karon or the

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Speaker 1: team you're on in your life right now, without going

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Speaker 1: through these trials. That'll do it for the Bernie FRAUDI Show.

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Speaker 1: Keep it locked up next to the great Antony Gargano.