1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: I tell you what. The government shut down fiasco is 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: just total insanity right now, and Democrats are now having 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: insane demands to reopen the government. Some of them include, 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: and this is not a joke, a three point nine 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: million dollar demand for the lgbtqiplus democracy grants in the 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: Western Balkans. I wish I was joking. The Speaker of 7 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: the House, Mike Johnson laying out now why your government 8 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: is shut down and what Democrats are demanding you pay 9 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: for with your tax dollars to reopen the government. Listen 10 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: to This. 11 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: Would send a half a billion dollars to liberal news 12 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: outlets by refunding the Corporation for public broadcasting. It would 13 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: also restore up to five billion dollars of American taxpayer 14 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: funds for wasteful spending for international projects. Here's a couple 15 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: of examples. This is in their legislation, their counter proposal 16 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: on the sere to keep the lights open. This is 17 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: what they want to do. They want to spend twenty 18 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: four point six million of your hard earned dollars as 19 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: a taxpayer for climate resilience in Honduras. They want to 20 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: spend thirteen point four million for civic engagement in Zimbabwe 21 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: they want to send three point nine million for LGBTQI 22 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: plus democracy grants, and the Western Balkans they want to 23 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: spend two point nine million of your dollars for desert 24 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: locust risk reduction in the Horn of Africa and two 25 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: million for quote organizing for feminist democratic principles in Africa. 26 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 2: We are not doing. 27 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: That, Speaker Johnson saying it clearly, we are not doing that. Now. 28 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: The government shutdown is also happening because there is a 29 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: date coming up. It is the No Kings Rally in Washington, 30 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: d C. It is three four days away from now, 31 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: and it's very clear that Democrats are actually being held 32 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: hostage by the most radicals in their party. Democrats must 33 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: be a part of this No King's rally. It's an 34 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: organized rally to say that Donald Trump is an evil dictator, 35 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: tyrant king. And it's something that's being paid for by 36 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: the richest in the radical left, the billionaires of their party. 37 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: And so this is the reality of the situation right now. 38 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: Democrats are going to hold this country hostage at least 39 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: for the next four or five days. Then they may 40 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: come to the table to talk with Republicans, but they're 41 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: not allowed to negotiate before the extremist rally they're going 42 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: to have in the nation's capital. And they're also making 43 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 1: these extreme demands which I just mentioned and you heard 44 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: from Speaker Johnson. So if you were hoping today when 45 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: you woke up that you were going to find out 46 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: the government was going to be working, well it's not 47 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: because Democrats are refusing to lead. Instead, they're going to 48 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: hold you hostage and the American workers and our government workers, 49 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: including our men and women in the military. There's also 50 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: another aspect of this, and it's even more shocking. Donald 51 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: Trump figured out a way to make sure that those 52 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: that serve our country in uniform, our men and women 53 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: in our military, would get their paychecks this morning on 54 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: the fifteenth, and not miss that pay period. What's shocking 55 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: is just how angry Democrats are that Donald Trump said 56 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: We're not going to play politics with our men and 57 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: women in uniform. They are furious at the present for 58 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: doing this. In fact, they've even threatened to use legal 59 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: action and every other power they have to stop our 60 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: men and women in uniform from getting a paycheck, Which 61 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: brings me to another conversation that I had moments ago 62 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: with Senator Ted Cruz. Senator Cruz and I not only 63 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: talked about the government shutdown, but we also talked about 64 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: what happened at the White House today in the Rose Garden. 65 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: You had the President of the United States of America 66 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: giving the highest civilian honor to Charlie Kirk, to his widow, 67 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: to his mother and father who were there, with almost 68 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: every cabinet secretary in attendance, and some of the most 69 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: powerful people in our government. It is shocking that it's 70 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: been a month since the assassination of Charlie Kirk, but 71 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: his legacy has only grown over the last month. And 72 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: the number of people whose lives have been affected in 73 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: a positive way by Charlie Kirk and his words that 74 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: they've watched and listened to online has only grown significantly 75 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: in the last thirty days. His legacy is incredible, and 76 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: I want you to hear my conversation with Senata Cruz 77 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: about both of these issues. All right, Senator, so let's 78 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: just talk about like where we are to give the updates. 79 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: This is something I think it's important for us to 80 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: do when it comes to shutdown what is happening now 81 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: in Washington, And I got a feeling you're gonna be 82 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: like nothing at all. 83 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, look it's October fifteenth. So one of the consequences 84 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 3: is federal workers all across the federal government had their 85 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 3: paycheck not direct deposited. And so for a lot of 86 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: workers who are living paycheck to paycheck, it means they're 87 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 3: not getting the check that they were planning on to 88 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 3: pay their bills. They're not getting the check they're planning 89 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 3: on to go to the grocery store. They're not getting 90 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 3: the check they're planning on to pay healthcare expenses, tuition expenses, 91 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 3: all daycare expenses, all of the day to day expenses. 92 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 3: It was also scheduled to be the day on which 93 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: our troops, our soldiers, our sailors, our airmenham marines would 94 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 3: not get paid either. And we've seen online images of 95 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 3: young soldiers standing in line at food pantries to get food. 96 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 3: You know, many of our young, particularly enlisted men and women, 97 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 3: are living on very limited budgets and not getting a 98 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 3: paycheck is a real hardship for them. Now, I will 99 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: say the latter has not happened because President Trump has 100 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 3: done something that I don't think has ever happened in 101 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 3: a previous shutdown, which which is he has readjusted money 102 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 3: that was going to other expenses within the Department of War. 103 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: He's shifted it around to an account to pay our 104 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 3: servicemen and women. I'm grateful that he did so. It 105 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 3: really is quite striking that the Democrats, multiple Democrats, are 106 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 3: expressing dismay, how dare you pay our servicemen and women? 107 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: But on Tuesday. On Tuesday, the Senate came back in 108 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 3: town and we voted. We voted for the ninth time, 109 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 3: Republicans voted to reopen the government. I voted to reopen 110 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 3: the government. We're ready to reopen it. And the Democrats 111 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 3: came in almost party line, All but a couple of 112 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 3: Democrats voted no, no, no, keep the government down. And 113 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 3: by the way, Schumer recently said it was quote better 114 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 3: for Democrats to extend the government shutdown. Now, I got 115 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 3: to say that's a cynical statement. They're counting on the 116 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 3: media to be dishonest about what's going on. But listen, 117 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 3: the end of this is it's going to end in 118 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: the same place. At some point, the Democrats are going 119 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: to give in. And I'll tell you what most of 120 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 3: the Republican senators believe, myself included which is the shutdown 121 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 3: will continue at least until next week. And the reason 122 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 3: for that is on October eighteenth, on Saturday, there is 123 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 3: a big rally planned in Washington, d C. The so 124 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 3: called No King's Rally, where a bunch of leftist radicals 125 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 3: are going to be coming to Washington, d C. To 126 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 3: protest against Donald Trump. Because that's what the left does, 127 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 3: is they say we hate Trump, we hate Trump. And 128 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: what I'm hearing is the Democrats are terrified of reopening 129 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 3: the government before that No King's Rally because they think 130 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 3: if they do reopen the government, those radicals will be 131 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 3: fury and listen, why are we having a shutdown? We're 132 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: having a shut down two reasons. Number one, because the 133 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 3: Democrats want free, tax payer provided health care for illegal aliens. 134 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 3: But number two, the real reason we're having a shutdown 135 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: is because Chuck Schumer is fighting for his political life 136 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: and he's trying to demonstrate to the radical left he 137 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 3: hates Trump as much as they do. And so I think, 138 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: at a minimum, the shutdown will continue through this weekend. 139 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 3: The earliest we see the government opening up is next week. 140 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 3: But you know what, Schumer and the Democrats might make 141 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 3: it drag out even further than that, because right now 142 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: they seem utterly oblivious to the consequences of their massive 143 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 3: political obstruction. 144 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is. And I go back to being 145 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: held hostage and the fact that Democrats are really outraged 146 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: over the idea of paying our military. I think that's 147 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: just really gross. I am shocked they're not taking a 148 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: bigger political hit and the media is just giving them 149 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: full coverage on this one to act like their outrage 150 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: is somehow sane or normal. I actually think the American 151 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: people look at this otherwise. Am I wrong? 152 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 3: Look, I think you're right, although candidly, I think each 153 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 3: side lives in its own echo chamber. So I think 154 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 3: if you're inclined to agree with Republicans, your view is, Gosh, 155 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: the Democrats are being ridiculous. This is the Schumer shutdown now. Sadly, 156 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 3: if you're inclined to agree with Democrats, if you're on 157 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 3: the left, you're listening to see Ann, you're listening to MSNBC, 158 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 3: you're in an echo chamber where everyone you hear is saying, 159 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 3: it's the horrible Republicans, it's the horrible Republicans. And so 160 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 3: I think that's part of the reason why the two 161 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 3: sides have very different perspectives. I don't think this is 162 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 3: going well for the Democrats at all, but I'm not 163 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 3: sure they agree, because if they're just listening to their radicals, 164 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 3: they think it's wonderful. By the way, their radicals would 165 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 3: leave the government shut down for months and months and 166 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 3: months because all they care about is saying we hate Trump. 167 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: Now here's how this is gonna end. I don't think 168 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer is gonna end it. I don't think he's 169 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 3: gonna show any leadership because I think he is terrified. 170 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 3: He is hearing AOC breathing down his neck. What I 171 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: think is gonna happen is you're going to need at 172 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 3: least seven Democrats who decide, Okay, enough is enough, let's 173 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 3: reopen the government, let's stop this petulance. And I think 174 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 3: it is going to be almost exclusively retiring Democrats, people 175 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 3: who are on their way out and Democrats who are 176 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 3: not facing their left wing voters anytime soon. My guess 177 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 3: is Schumer never votes to open the government, but I 178 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 3: think he may condone. He may look the other way 179 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 3: and wink a couple of times at letting a little 180 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: bit of a jail break at letting eight to ten 181 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 3: Democrats vote to say, let's reopen the government, and I 182 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 3: think all the rest of the Democrats vote no, no, no, know, 183 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 3: to preserve themselves from their left flank. 184 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: Do you believe that Democrats who actually sit down with Republicans, 185 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: it's really something that hasn't happened. Certainly on the House side, 186 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: Democrats are saying and no, we have nothing to talk about. 187 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: Do you think that Democrats will be let out of 188 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: that jail once this No King's rally takes place? And 189 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: how quickly afterwards do you think we can actually see 190 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: that conversation begin. 191 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 3: Well, look, right now, Schumer is not talking with Republican leadership. 192 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 3: A King, Jeffries in the House is not talking with 193 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 3: Republican leadership. I don't think it will be Democrat leadership. 194 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 3: That there's a group of about a dozen Democrat senators 195 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: who are having conversations and they're talking a little bit 196 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 3: to Republicans. And I think the way this will end 197 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 3: is after the rally. And by the way, think about it. 198 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 3: If you're a federal worker right now and you're working 199 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 3: at say the VA, and you didn't get your paycheck today. 200 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 3: The reason you didn't get your paycheck is that Democrats 201 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 3: are scared to have a rally of radicals in Washington 202 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 3: while they allowed you to get your paycheck. I mean, 203 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 3: this is pure left wing politics. And by the way, 204 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 3: Schumer's comment on this, he said, quote, every day gets 205 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 3: better for us, he said, quote every day the Republicans 206 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: refuse to negotiate to end this shutdown, the worse it 207 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: gets for Americans, and the clear it becomes who's fighting 208 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 3: for them. That is their view, or that is at 209 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 3: least the view of the radicals. But I think what 210 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 3: you'll see is among that roughly dozen Democrats who are 211 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 3: having conversations right now, you'll see seven, eight nine of 212 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 3: them say Okay, let's open the government. And that's how 213 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 3: this ends. 214 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 1: Final question on this. The President today at the White 215 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: House did talk about, Hey, you better get ready come 216 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: Thursday Friday. You guys don't get back on board of 217 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: opening the government up. I'm going to start cutting democratic 218 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: programs because we think there's a lot of waste there, 219 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: not Republican programs. Is that the type of leverage that 220 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: we need right now? 221 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:00,479 Speaker 3: Absolutely so. I was at the White House on Tuesday. 222 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 3: I talked with many Cabinet members. I talked with Russ Vode, 223 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 3: who's the head of the Office of Management and Budget 224 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 3: and he's in charge of the layoffs, and they've already started. 225 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 3: They've laid off thousands of federal government workers. And the 226 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 3: Trump White House has said the longer the shutdown continues, 227 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: the more government workers will be laid off, not furloughed temporarily, 228 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 3: but laid off. And they're going to focus on policies 229 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 3: and priorities that are inconsistent with the President's agenda, that 230 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 3: are Democrat priorities. And I think that leverage will accelerate 231 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 3: the Democrats saying, Okay, we're going to stop holding the 232 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 3: government hostage, and we're going to allow the clean Continual 233 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: Resolution that the House passed weeks ago. We're going to 234 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 3: allow that to be signed the law. 235 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: Speaking of the White House, as you just mentioned, you 236 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,239 Speaker 1: were there with many Cabinet members that were in attendance 237 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: for a really I think special moment. You and I 238 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: had the honor and the privilege to go to the 239 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: memorial service for Charlie Kirk. What we witnessed today was 240 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: something incredible. Donald Trump awarded Charlie Kirk the Medal of 241 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: Freedom on what would have been his thirty second birthday 242 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: at the White House, and his wife, his widow, Erica, 243 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: was there to accept this. It was a moving moment 244 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: and you were there for all of it. 245 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 3: So it was truly a beautiful It was a beautiful day. 246 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 3: It was a beautiful fall day at October in Washington, 247 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 3: d C. The sun was out. We were in the 248 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 3: Rose Garden, and in the Rose garden you had, you 249 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 3: had a lot of members of Congress, you had virtually 250 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 3: the entire cabinet came out for it, and Erica Kirk, 251 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 3: Charlie's widow, was there. The President really, I think did 252 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 3: a very good job remembering Charlie, speaking speaking from the heart, 253 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 3: honoring Charlie's legacy, and presenting him with the highest civilian 254 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 3: honor we have in this country, and in the military context, 255 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 3: the Medal of Honor is the highest recipient. 256 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 4: That the that that. 257 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: Can be awarded an individual. In the civilian context, the 258 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 3: Medal of Freedom is the highest honor that can be 259 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 3: awarded an individual. And to give it to Charlie, it 260 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 3: was bittersweet because Charlie would have been thirty two. He 261 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 3: was a young man. He had an incredibly bright future, 262 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 3: as you and I have talked about. We both have 263 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 3: known Charlie a long time. I considered Charlie a very 264 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 3: close friend. Heidie and I met Charlie when he was 265 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 3: just eighteen years old, when he was a kid. At 266 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 3: the ceremony at the White House, I met Charlie's parents. 267 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 3: I had not met his parents before, and I had 268 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 3: an opportunity to just just tell both his mom and 269 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: dad say, look, look, Hidie and I we love Charlie. 270 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 3: And when we got to know him fourteen years ago, 271 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 3: his vision then was as clear as it was the 272 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 3: day he died. His vision of creating a movement to energize, 273 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 3: to mobilize young people, to mobilize young people to love freedom, 274 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 3: to love, free enterprise, to love the Constitution, to love America. 275 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 3: That vision, you could see it. What I met at 276 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 3: me was this tall, lanky, eighteen year old kid. He 277 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 3: was fresh out of high school, had not gone to college. 278 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 3: And you gotta remember the context. This is twenty twelve, 279 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 3: beginning of twenty thirteen. Barack Obama had just been reelected. 280 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 3: The Democrats were resurgent. At that point, young people being 281 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 3: a Democrat at an Obama Democrat was hip and cool. 282 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 3: The idea of energizing a lot of young people to 283 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 3: be conservatives. Frankly sounded looney. It did not sound like 284 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 3: an easy task at all. A lot of people in 285 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 3: the Republican Party said this will never work. But Charlie 286 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 3: had a vision. And I was telling his mom and dad, 287 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 3: I said, look, his vision was extraordinary. One of the 288 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 3: things I said to them is I said, look, I'm 289 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 3: queer grieving the loss of your son. He was extraordinarm 290 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 3: So sorry, so sorry for your loss. But I say, 291 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 3: you know what I think, in the last month, it 292 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 3: may well be possible that more people have heard the 293 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 3: Gospel than in any comparable period of our lifetimes. That 294 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 3: that memorial service in Arizona for Charlie was a global 295 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 3: event where people heard the gospel. And I got to 296 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 3: say at at Charlie's funeral service when Erica stood up 297 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 3: and she talked about how when Jesus was hanging on 298 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: the cross and he was looking down at the Roman 299 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 3: soldiers who had nailed him to the cross, who were 300 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 3: in the process of killing him, and Jesus said, from 301 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 3: the cross, Father, forgive them, for they know not what 302 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 3: they do. And she talked about how how Charlie really 303 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 3: had a mission for young people, particularly young men, young 304 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 3: men who were often disaffected, disillusion to help them find 305 00:17:55,840 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 3: find their way and find find a life, a meaningful 306 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 3: purpose that provides real satisfaction and real reason for living. 307 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 3: And she talked about that young man who shot Charlie, 308 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 3: that young man, and then she said, and I got 309 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 3: to say she was doing this wind up. I knew you, 310 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 3: knew where she was going. And I got to tell you, 311 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 3: and I understand you and I were standing next to 312 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 3: each other. I literally held my breath. I'm like, is 313 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 3: she going to be able to say this? And she 314 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 3: stood up with the eyes of the world upon him, 315 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 3: and said, that young man, the young man who pulled 316 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 3: the trigger and murdered her husband, murdered the father of 317 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 3: her children. She said, I forgive him. I don't know 318 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 3: that there was a dry eye in the house. And 319 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 3: one of the things that is so incredible is millions 320 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 3: of people were watching that and listen. If if you're 321 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 3: a Christian, you understand, just like Jesus said, Father, forgive them, 322 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 3: for they know not what they do, even as they 323 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 3: were killing him. But if you're not a Christian, I 324 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 3: believe thousands, if not millions, of people looked at each 325 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 3: other and said, how can she say that? Where does 326 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 3: that come from? Where does that forgiveness come from? Where 327 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 3: does that love come from? And I think it was 328 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 3: as powerful a testament of the Gospel as as as 329 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 3: as we have seen in a long long time, and 330 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 3: and and and it and I got to say today 331 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 3: the President spoke beautifully. And by the way, when Erica 332 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 3: said I forgive him Ben, I hope and pray you 333 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 3: or I are never in that situation. I don't know 334 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 3: that those words could come out of my mouth. I 335 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 3: would want them to, I would desper we want them to. 336 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 3: But I that the strength it took for her to 337 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 3: say those words I find utterly astonishing. 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And this is what the President said about. 377 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 4: That said on the day that he was assassinated. Charlie 378 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 4: Kirk was a martyr for truth and for freedom, and 379 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 4: from Socrates to think and to Saint Peter, from Abraham 380 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 4: Lincoln to Martin Luther King, those who change history the most, 381 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 4: and he really did have always risked their lives for 382 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 4: causes they were put on earth to defend. He was 383 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 4: put on earth to do exactly what he was doing. 384 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 4: He didn't want to waste time. He would have been 385 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 4: a top student at any college in the country. I know, 386 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 4: to college as well. He's smarter than the guys. He 387 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 4: was so smart, but he almost I guess didn't have 388 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 4: the time. He knew what he wanted to do. It 389 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 4: wasn't like Jae I want to sit in this classroom 390 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 4: for four years listening to people teach me liberal principles, 391 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 4: because they were never going to teach him that anyway. 392 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 4: But he didn't have the time. He really didn't have 393 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 4: the time. But every time the enemies of goodness and 394 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 4: virtue tried to silence the voice of righteous and noble 395 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 4: leaders like Charlie, they failed. They seem to fail. Ultimately, 396 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 4: they look like they're doing well, and then they end 397 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 4: up failing because the truth has been unrelenting over the years, 398 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 4: over history, and people like Charlie, it's just they've got 399 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 4: a power that others don't have, and very few people 400 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 4: will ever have. So today, like those martyrs before him, 401 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 4: Charlie's voice, his message, and his legacy are stronger and 402 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 4: greater than ever before. They are greater than ever before. 403 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: You know him saying as I said on the day 404 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: he was assassinated, Charlie Kirk was a martyr for truth 405 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: and for freedom, yep. And I couldn't agree more. To 406 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: compare him as he did to Saint Peter, to Abraham 407 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: Lincoln to Martin Luther King Junior. These are people that 408 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 1: change history. Charlie will be remembered in the same breath 409 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: with those types of leaders, and I think that's part 410 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 1: of the legacy. And as you mentioned, not only did 411 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: Charlie and his legacy now it is one hundred percent 412 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: setting I think young men and young women on fire 413 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: to be bolder in their faith, to be to be 414 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: better Christians and to seek the truth of the Bible 415 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: and the Gospel. And just what he was able to 416 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 1: do in his death is phenomenal, but also what he 417 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: was doing to fight for this country at the same time, 418 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: that is going to be a legacy that's going to 419 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: live on because so many people that are going to 420 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: do it for Charlie. I think you and I would 421 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: include ourselves in that as well. 422 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 3: Well. Listen, he was very much He was a martyr 423 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 3: for freedom and a martyr for truth. I also told 424 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 3: Charlie's parents, I think more people heard Charlie's words of 425 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 3: the last four weeks that then heard them in the 426 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 3: entire thirty one nearly thirty two years of his life. 427 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 3: That the number of people who went and said, who 428 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 3: was this Charlie Kirk guy. What did he have to say? 429 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 3: Who listened to exchanges as he was on college campuses, 430 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 3: as he was engaging with people who disagreed with him, 431 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 3: as he treated them with respect, with dignity. That is 432 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 3: a powerful legacy. I will tell you. One of the 433 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 3: things that was also striking about the Metal of Freedom 434 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 3: ceremony is it was a continuation of a conversation that 435 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 3: happened at Charlie's funeral ceremony. So at the funeral, Erica 436 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 3: Kirk spoke, and I mentioned how she said that she 437 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 3: forgives the murderer who murdered her husband, and she talks 438 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 3: about how Jesus teaches us to love our enemies. And 439 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 3: you know, Trump spoke at the funeral, and and and 440 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 3: he gave I think, very strong remarks. But one of 441 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 3: the things he said is he said that's something he 442 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 3: had a great deal of difficulty doing, that he did 443 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 3: not love his enemies, that he hated his enemies, and 444 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,959 Speaker 3: he liked to fight his enemies. And he kind of 445 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 3: laughed about it, but he said that, and and and 446 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 3: it was that was a back and forth from Arizona. 447 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 3: Well in the Rose Garden, Trump brought it up again 448 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 3: and and and look. President Trump knew Charlie very well, 449 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 3: and he said, you know, I know Erica talked about 450 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 3: how he loved his enemies. But he said, you know, 451 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 3: when I talked to Charlie, he said, I'm not sure 452 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 3: I saw that. I think he like when he was 453 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 3: in a battle, he would fight fight his enemies, uh 454 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 3: and and fight them vigorously. And listen. Charlie was a 455 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 3: strong man and a passionate man who knew what he believed. 456 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 3: But it was very interesting. Erica spoke after the President 457 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 3: in the Rose Garden and she gave beautiful remarks. But 458 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 3: one of the things she said that I think was 459 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 3: directly responding to the President. She said, look, I can 460 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 3: tell you from having been married to him, Charlie prayed 461 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 3: for his enemies. And she said I saw that. She said, 462 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 3: I don't know that anyone else saw that, but she 463 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 3: said I saw him and he prayed for his enemies. 464 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 3: And President Trump was standing behind her right shoulder, and 465 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 3: she said it it was it was lighthearted, but she 466 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 3: was kind of she was in many ways responding to 467 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 3: the President, and he like laughed. He was good natured, 468 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 3: but he was genuinely laughing, and it was a look 469 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 3: I think it was a good back and forth that 470 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 3: that that we should be vigorous in what we believe. 471 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 3: We should not not give in uh to to to 472 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 3: those who argue for positions that are harmful to America. 473 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 3: We should be full throat in our argument. But but 474 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 3: I also think that the message that Erica was carrying 475 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 3: forward about it's possible to disagree and and look, you 476 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 3: go watch the exchanges Charlie had on college campus after 477 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 3: college campus, when when you would have someone come in 478 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 3: and argue for open borders, when you would have someone 479 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 3: come in and argue for socialism, when you know someone 480 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 3: come in and argue for transgenderism, when you have someone 481 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 3: come in and argue for for hamas terrorists. Charlie was 482 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 3: vigorous and full throated in disputing them, but he was 483 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 3: not mean spirited about it. He was not I hate you, 484 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 3: he was not you're the enemy. But he would engage 485 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 3: in a way that said, look, I understand why you're 486 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 3: saying that. Here's why I believe you're mistaken. And I 487 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 3: think Rika was right that he was able to do 488 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 3: so from a position of love. Love does not mean agreement. 489 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 3: Love does not mean saying I accept the position you're advocating, 490 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 3: even though I believe it is harmful to our country. 491 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 3: But love means not treating your political adversary as the 492 00:28:55,200 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 3: enemy to be destroyed, but instead trying to respond with reason, 493 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 3: with compassion, trying to move, and even if you don't move, 494 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 3: your immediate interlocktor those who are observing it. Charlie was 495 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 3: very good at responding in a way that persuaded a 496 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 3: lot of other people. And I thought that back and 497 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 3: forth Tuesday between the President and Erica was really powerful. 498 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would encourage everyone that is listening right now, 499 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: if you did not get to see as specifically Erica's remarks, 500 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: go listen to them, and go listen to Donald Trump's 501 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: full remarks as we played one of the highlights here. 502 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: But there was a lot that was said and it 503 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: wasn't covered in the same way obviously that his memorial 504 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: was covered. I'm still in shock that we're a month 505 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: since we lost Charlie Kirk. But today was a very 506 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: special day. I'm so thankful that the President did this. 507 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: I'm thankful that his parents were there, that they got 508 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: to see how many people he influenced, the most important 509 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: people in our government, the president of the United States 510 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: of America, and just to be able to hear from 511 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: people like you centered and to love on them and 512 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: to let them know that their son's life mattered in 513 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: such a big way. 514 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 3: Amen. Amen, Amen, don't forget. 515 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: We do the show Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Hit that 516 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: subscribe or the auto download button. 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