1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:01,240 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk. 2 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 2: Hi, this is Buzzsnight, and welcome to the Taken a 3 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 2: Walk Podcast Music History on Foot, and welcome to the 4 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 2: special edition at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 5 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: in Cleveland, Ohio. It's a dream for me to bring 6 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 2: you this episode upon our announcement that the great folks 7 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame have accepted 8 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: my offer to donate select episodes of the Taken a 9 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 2: Walk Podcast to the audio archives of the Rock and 10 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: Roll Hall of Fame. To say I'm humbled and honored 11 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 2: as an understatement, knowing the amazing work that the Hall 12 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 2: continues to do to preserve history, and to know that 13 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 2: these episodes are Taken a Walk will be preserved forever 14 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: certainly means the world to me. This episode will be 15 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: made up of three parts. First, Lindsay Godwin Kresky, the 16 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: audio visual archivist for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, 17 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,639 Speaker 2: for a brief tour through the archives. Next, we'll take 18 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 2: a tour through the museum with my old friend and 19 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 2: then compadre from my radio days in Columbus, Ohio, Ohio 20 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 2: radio legend, Mark munch Bishop. And then we're going to 21 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: close with the President and CEO of the Rock and 22 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 2: Roll Hall of Fame, Greg Harris. 23 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: Okay, so I finally made it after an adventurous trip 24 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: out to Cleveland. I'm Buzznight, the host of the Taking 25 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: a Walk podcast. 26 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 2: I'm so grateful to be here inside the archives of 27 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: the Rock Hall of Fame with Lindsay Godwin Kresky. 28 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 29 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 3: What's your official. 30 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 4: Title, Lindsay Audio Visual Archivist? All right, yes, that is 31 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 4: my official title. 32 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 3: Well, I'm so grateful that I reached out to you 33 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: blindly and I said, is there a way that I'd 34 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 3: be able to offer up to Take It a Walk 35 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 3: podcast or some episodes and have them inside the archives? 36 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 5: And here we are. 37 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 4: Oh, I'm excited about it. Yeah. I love having people here. 38 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 6: This is great. Thank you. So take us around, show 39 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 6: us some cool stuff. 40 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 4: Okay, I could do. 41 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 6: I'll ask some questions along the way, of course. 42 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 4: Sure. 43 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 6: Sure, I'm inquisitive. 44 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 4: Oh, feel free anytime and anytime. 45 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 7: Yeah. 46 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 4: So this is the library and archives. We've been open 47 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 4: officially to the public since twenty twelve. A museum opened 48 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 4: in ninety five, and there was kind of always a 49 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 4: plan for the library and archives, but it didn't sort 50 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 4: of open in this space until twenty twelve been here 51 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 4: since it's a great spot. We are open to the 52 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 4: public by appointment only, but we you know, encourage people 53 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 4: to come and check out what we have. We have 54 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 4: massive amounts of collections here. 55 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 6: So you have audio, you have video, you have the 56 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 6: written work. 57 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 4: Yep, yep, we have all kinds of things. Audio, video recordings. 58 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 4: I mean, that's what I deal with on a daily basis. 59 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 4: But we also have you know, and I pulled some 60 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 4: samples for you we can take a look at. But 61 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 4: we have paper collections, we have contracts, setless financial records, 62 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 4: personal notes of people, posters, photographs, concert photographs, never you know, 63 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 4: before seen items. And then you know, we've got the 64 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 4: librariy so you can see here. We're in the reading 65 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 4: room and we have sort of all of these books here. 66 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 4: We have something like over nine thousand books, I believe, 67 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 4: I mean like every book that's been written on rock 68 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 4: and roll. I think we have and over one hundred 69 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 4: thousand audio and video commercial recordings in the library. So again, 70 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 4: just massive amounts of collections that are available to people. 71 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 8: So if someone were let's just say hypothetically writing a 72 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 8: book on James Brown, yep, well they can come in 73 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 8: here and they could spend the time trying. 74 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 6: To do the research. Listen, read, watch the whole thing. 75 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 4: Oh exactly. Yeah, so we have a ton of researchers 76 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 4: that come through and do just that, you know, authors, professors, documentarians, 77 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 4: all kinds of people. So here are some, again just 78 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 4: a small sample of what sort of I'm able to 79 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 4: pull right now. And I'll show you the kind of 80 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 4: storage areas later. But these are some posters from the 81 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 4: Terry Stewart collection. He was actually president and CEO of 82 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 4: the Rock Hall for a while and as a big collector, 83 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 4: so this sort of comes from his collection. But you 84 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 4: can sort of see. We've got some really really cool 85 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 4: older posters here that you know, really helped tell the 86 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 4: story of rock and roll. And we've got I love 87 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 4: this this Billie Holiday poster from nineteen forty four of 88 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 4: Lady Day at the Apollo Theater. You know, Elvis in 89 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 4: fifty six in North Carolina. That's a great one. Fats 90 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 4: Domino nineteen sixty in New Orleans, Beach Boys Indianapolis, Indiana, 91 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 4: nineteen sixty five, and Miss James Brown went over here, 92 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 4: I believe is nineteen sixty two. His performance at the 93 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 4: Civic Auditorium in San Francisco, and just like gorgeous to 94 00:04:59,279 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 4: look at. 95 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 6: You know, they really are. 96 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 2: So the Fats Domino one is cool, Lincoln Beach, New Orleans, 97 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: Louisiana and proudly presents and the ticket price, of course, 98 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 2: adults one dollars, children fifty cents. 99 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 4: I know, look at these and look at these prices. 100 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 4: I just you don't see that anymore. Beach Boys tickets 101 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 4: go up to what fourteen dollars nineteen sixty five, and 102 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 4: even then fourteen dollars. 103 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: The credib it now did a lot of bands decide 104 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 2: they were gonna you know, work first, Let's just say 105 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: a place like Indianapolis, Indiana, where the Beach Boys show 106 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 2: was before they took it to bigger markets. I mean, 107 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: was there something to kind of getting the kinks out and. 108 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, get getting the kinks out, sort of seeing kind 109 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 4: of how your crowd responds and getting your name out 110 00:05:55,400 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 4: as well, you know, people traveling around and kind of 111 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 4: doing a small national tour on that level. Like I 112 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 4: feel like the equivalent now is you know, releasing a 113 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 4: song on YouTube or something and getting your name out 114 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 4: that way. 115 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 8: Yea. 116 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 4: So these are some items from our Jane Scott paper. 117 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 4: So Jane Scott total like Cleveland legend from the area. 118 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 4: She was on staff at the Plane Dealer Cleveland newspaper 119 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 4: and she covered the Beatles visiting Cleveland in nineteen sixty 120 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 4: four and was really like the world's first full time 121 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 4: newspaper staff music critic let alone like female, but just 122 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 4: sort of the first one that was kind of paid 123 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 4: to do this full time. So these are just kind 124 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 4: of some sample papers from her. We have her collection. 125 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 4: So this is sort of a photo friends with the Beatles. 126 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 4: This is a photo of her and Paul McCartney and 127 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 4: nineteen sixty six when the Beatles came back to Cleveland. 128 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 4: Here's a photo you can see the excitement on her 129 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 4: face meeting David Bowie and sort of his signature as well. 130 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 4: And this was sort of a clipping of an article 131 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 4: that she did for the Plain Dealer in nineteen ninety 132 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 4: when David Bowie performed in the area, and you can 133 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 4: see he signed it for Jane all my love, which 134 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 4: is awesome. 135 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 6: And what I love. 136 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: Is the caption under the photo David Bowie and I quote, 137 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 2: I don't want to bore the audience. I think they 138 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: deserve new ideas. 139 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, that's a great Bowie statement. Well, and he 140 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 4: lived that till he did did he did? He really did, 141 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 4: really really incredible artist to be able to do that 142 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 4: his whole career. So sort of moving away from this collection, 143 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 4: these are just kind of a few that I wanted 144 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 4: to highlight. Here's this is some I really love this. 145 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 4: This is an early contract or Bonnie rait performing in 146 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,559 Speaker 4: Philadelphia at Pennypacker Park and you could see wage agreed 147 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 4: upon seventy five dollars July nineteen sixty nine. 148 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 6: Wow. 149 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 4: So again, you know, we have a lot of kind 150 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 4: of records like this that people can research as well. 151 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: Payment in cash or certified check following performance to leader 152 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: following performance. 153 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 6: Look at that. 154 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 4: That's great. Yeah, well concert appearance of forty minutes. This 155 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 4: is undated, But this is actually a handwritten session list 156 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 4: from Aretha Franklin sort of see her notes on the 157 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 4: songs and kind of write where the strings come in 158 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 4: the horns. Very very cool. And then we've got sort 159 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 4: of another kind of handwritten artist example. This is a 160 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 4: Bob Dylan handwritten set list from nineteen ninety two. Again, 161 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 4: this is just a a little slice into what we 162 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 4: have in the archives. 163 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 6: It's so cool. 164 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 4: So I do you know I mentioned we have a 165 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 4: ton of photos. This is from our Jeff gold collection. 166 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 4: He's a collector and friend of the museum. These are 167 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 4: photographs from sixteen magazine and these are all Rolling Stones photographs. 168 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 4: We're looking at a lot of Rolling Stone stuff at 169 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 4: the moment. You know they're coming to Cleveland this summer. 170 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 4: But just some really great promo shots, some concert photos. 171 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 4: So if you don't always see until you really start digging. 172 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: And it is funny how sixteen magazine was so tuned 173 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: into what was going on right right, this was a 174 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: big deal for them, and they made it a big deal. 175 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 4: It's true, It's true. Yeah, they have some really really 176 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 4: interesting photographs in that collection. 177 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 6: Look at those choir boys right. 178 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, in their their sailor uniforms. Yeah, great, great 179 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 4: shots of them performing lives. And then while you're talking 180 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 4: to the audio visual archivists, so I have to pull 181 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 4: some audio materials, but this is These are some tapes 182 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 4: from our James Brawley collection. These are fascinating to me. 183 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 4: James Brawley was just a fan of punk rock music 184 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 4: in New York and the surrounding areas. In the seventies 185 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 4: and eighties, and he just went to all of these 186 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 4: shows at all of these huge places. I mean, here's 187 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 4: Talking Heads Lower Manhattan Ocean Club nineteen seventy six, Bab 188 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 4: Marley and the Whalers seventy six, Here Devo at Maxis, 189 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 4: Kansas City in nineteen seventy seven. He just went to 190 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 4: all of these shows and just recorded them. So this 191 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 4: is all you know, never before has been these have 192 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 4: been published and he My favorite part about these is 193 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 4: he has just the most meticulous notes on the sleeves 194 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 4: where he writes who the artist was, you know, the 195 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 4: date of the performance, the venue. He'll have notes about 196 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 4: how he recorded it. He'll he has time stamps so 197 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 4: you can see how long each set list was, how 198 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 4: far away from the stage he was. And then sometimes 199 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 4: you see lovely little notes like this, this one says, 200 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 4: my first visit to this venue. Sometimes he'll have his 201 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 4: kind of opinion written on it and say, this is 202 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 4: a great show, you know, this one not so much. 203 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 4: But we have about thirteen hundred audio cassettes just from 204 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 4: his collection that again like really meticulously document like that 205 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 4: time and punk rock in that region. 206 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 6: It's amazing and what it shows is the love of 207 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 6: the music. 208 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 2: It's someone who just absolutely adored the music. 209 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 6: Did it because of that love. 210 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's so very special. I grew up in Stanford, Connecticut, 211 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: so many in these places, you know, such as Maxis, 212 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 2: Kansas City. It was fortunate to be able to go there. 213 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 2: Never made it to CBGB's but and we had mister 214 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: Danny fields On previously, the former. 215 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 6: Manager of the Ramones, and. 216 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 4: Lou Reed as well, right, right, of course. Yeah, there's 217 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 4: just you know, these materials, there's just so much value 218 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 4: in these that I don't know if everyone always realizes, 219 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 4: you know, someone has a tape collection or a CD collection, like, 220 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 4: there's value in that for researchers. And that's what we 221 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 4: want to do, is we want to make this stuff 222 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 4: available for researchers. We you know, want to have this 223 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 4: available for educational purposes. 224 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 6: So it's wonderful. 225 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 4: That's our goal here. So yeah, this is just kind 226 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 4: of a little right now. 227 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 6: So you must really love your job. 228 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 4: I do love my job very much. 229 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 6: I do. 230 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 4: Yes, I'm not from the area. I moved here for 231 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 4: the job. And yeah, no complaints. This is great. I 232 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 4: feel very fortunate. 233 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: And when you think of surprise and wonderment in terms 234 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: of things that you yourself see here or that come 235 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: into the archives. 236 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 6: You must be constantly in wonderment. 237 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, well this scale is one thing, just the 238 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 4: amount of items that there are here. I've been here 239 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 4: well a little less than two and a half years, 240 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 4: and you know, I feel like I'm just like scratching 241 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 4: the surface with what we have. There's so much to 242 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 4: explore and we get just really you know, we have 243 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 4: donors contact us all the time and they're interested in 244 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 4: handing over materials to us, and I get to talk 245 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 4: to really interesting people that way and learn a lot. 246 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 4: It's been great. There's always some surprises that come in 247 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 4: that are fun. 248 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: So well, thank you so much, Lindsey. I really appreciate 249 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: what you do problem generosity and sharing some of the 250 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 2: magic here at the Archives, and just incredibly grateful that 251 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: the Taking a Walk Podcast will be a small part 252 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: of this. 253 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh, thanks so much for comings. It's great. 254 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more of the Taking a 255 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: Walk Podcast. Welcome back to the Taking a Walk Podcast. 256 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: So we have arrived at the Rock Hall of Fame 257 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: here in Cleveland, Ohio, and I'm with my dear friend 258 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: Mark munch Bishop, I dare. 259 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 9: Say I call him not only my friend, but an 260 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 9: iconic broadcaster from his days in Columbus, Ohio with me 261 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 9: at QFM ninety six, but also here in his time 262 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 9: in Cleveland. 263 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 6: It's great to see you, my friend. 264 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 5: Father's so good to see you. You know. The cool thing 265 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 5: is you hear started. It's probably been ten years. 266 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 10: My daughter was taking a college tour on the East 267 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 10: Coast and we had lunch. But they say best friends, 268 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 10: no matter. We communicate frequently, but you see somebody's like, oh, 269 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 10: I just saw him yesterday. That's where I spend ten 270 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 10: years with my first time. 271 00:14:58,800 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 6: Exactly right. 272 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 11: Thank you for accompanying me on this Little Walks taking 273 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 11: a walk episode through the Rock Hall of Fame. 274 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 6: I will tell our listeners. 275 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 2: If you like the little Museum episodes. 276 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 9: We have one at the Country Music Hall of Fame 277 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 9: that we had a good time with Paul Kingsbury. We 278 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 9: were with Joe Spaulding at the Folk Americana Museum in 279 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 9: Boston at the Wang Center. 280 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 2: Slash Box Center, and also. 281 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 12: An episode at the Lewis Armstrong Museum and House as well. 282 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 9: But this is what I've been waiting for for a 283 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 9: long time, and especially now with taking a walk us 284 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 9: getting a donation of episodes inside the Rock Hall of 285 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 9: Fame archives is very special. So we thought what better 286 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 9: way to memor airlyze that than to take a walk 287 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 9: ourselves through the Rock Hall of Fame. 288 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 6: So let's go. 289 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 5: Let's go. 290 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 10: Brother, all right, Paul, My gosh, you. 291 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 5: Know, I made a mistake on time. 292 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 10: So somebody, somebody when we're looking at the Flavor flav 293 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 10: Outfits exhibit, but seeing a brother walking with one of 294 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 10: the big clocks runners act asking him what time it was, 295 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 10: and I got a look I'm taking I bet I 296 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 10: better just let that one go and keep walking. 297 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 6: Oh my god, that's so great. 298 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 9: So hip Hop at fifty is this exhibit here, and 299 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 9: this is the Am. 300 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm exhibit haunting his name comment he was people 301 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: knew him as just Am. 302 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 5: Well we have one name your bus a much? 303 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 6: Yeah? 304 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 10: There you go, right dude, look at oh my gosh, 305 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 10: turntable set up. 306 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:44,239 Speaker 2: That's right, this amazing fifteen to twenty Sedwick cabinue. 307 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 9: So now this section of the Rock Call is called 308 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 9: the early Influences. 309 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 11: And of course you got to start with Robert Johnson 310 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 11: there and Hank Williams, Jimmy Rogers, T Bone Walker, Woody. 311 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 6: Guthrie, the Ink Spot. My father was a fan of 312 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 6: the ink Spots. 313 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: I honestly didn't get it, but maybe I didn't pay attention. 314 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 6: But I was a you know, smart smart ass, but 315 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 6: he was a big fan of the ink Spots. 316 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 5: And then of course the great Bess Smith. 317 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 11: There, Howl and wilf great photos here. 318 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 5: So it's cool Bill Monroe. 319 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 10: So it just shows when people talk about Okay, well 320 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 10: we talked about the dollar. 321 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 5: Actually you know rap music exhibit in the rock hall. Well, 322 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 5: Bill Monroe will see. 323 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: A rock ord. 324 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 10: You know what, you have a Cokins that this to 325 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 10: me years ago talking about early radio, and I'm thinking, 326 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 10: like ce kl W Detroit, which he twelve sixty being 327 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 10: from Cleveland, is that how cool is it? 328 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 5: Good music is good music? 329 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 10: But if you heard the Jefferson Airplane song right after Temptations, 330 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 10: Ballic Confusion, after the nineteen ten Fruit Dumb Company, after 331 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 10: Patula Clark's right, good. 332 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,479 Speaker 5: Music is good music and it's as simple as that. 333 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 5: Man great, So I find this interesting. 334 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: There's a picture of the great Jilly Morton and now 335 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: so many times if I mentioned, yeah, I had this 336 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: guy jelly Roll on an episode of Taking a Walk, 337 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 2: and they go, you mean jelly Roll Morton. 338 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 11: They don't know about the new jelly Roll, Like, no, man, 339 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 11: there's a new jelly Roll up. 340 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: You know. 341 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 9: Obviously jelly Roll influenced by somehow the work of jelly 342 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 9: Roll Morton. 343 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 7: Maybe he was, I don't know. 344 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 6: I don't think he was. 345 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 11: But knowing jelly Roll, he's a bit of a historian, 346 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 11: very much into the work of Johnny Cash. 347 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 6: Because you know, if you think. 348 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 13: I got it jelly Roll, the new jelly Rod did 349 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 13: prison time, you know, for solid drugs or whatever. The 350 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 13: New jelly Roll was very receptive to that lineage. 351 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 5: How cool is that? 352 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 6: Yeah? 353 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 5: You know, is that a claim to fame? Besides knowing you? 354 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 10: Was that a Johnny Cash show at Cane Park in 355 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 10: Cleveland Heights. He's nineteen ninety six, I'm exactly. 356 00:18:59,240 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: What it was. 357 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 10: And the wife and I beg boled and stole to 358 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 10: get tickets in the front row Fish It was. 359 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 5: Like a mini amphitheater a city. So the band played 360 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 5: a couple of talk songs. Johnny came out, did a few, June. 361 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 10: Clark came out, joined him, and all of a sudden, 362 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 10: I'm in the front row and I'm crying, and he goes, 363 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 10: looks at these, you. 364 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 5: Know, between songs with are you all right? 365 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: Young man? 366 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 10: So I love you, Johnny, I could take what else 367 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 10: to say. 368 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 5: I mean, it's a a concert video with a couple 369 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 5: of thousand people. And he looks at him and he goes, well, 370 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 5: I love you, and so does Jesus. And that went 371 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 5: right to the next song. So besides knowing you, that's 372 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 5: why other claiming oh Man. 373 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 6: Did the best. 374 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 12: So we're looking at this collection of guitars here. The 375 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 12: one we're looking at right now is lets Paul called 376 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:51,719 Speaker 12: the Clunker. This is a modified nineteen forty two epiphone Broadway. 377 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 12: Just stunning beauty with this guitar. Why would it be 378 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 12: called a clunker? I don't know, right, I mean, maybe. 379 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 5: Heavier than most I don't wondering. 380 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 9: You know, Albert Collins electric guitar offender telecaster from nineteen 381 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 9: sixty six, pretty damn amazing. 382 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 6: John Lee Hooker. 383 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 2: From ninety eight, but still pretty outstanding. 384 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 5: We'll come back. That snaps some pictures through. 385 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: And then Holland Wolfe's electric guitar at nineteen fifty two 386 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: K K one sixty one. 387 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 6: Look at that? 388 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 5: Is this crazy man beautiful? So you like me? 389 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 10: I just is it my first Christmas? 390 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 5: That's absolutely. Oh. 391 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 9: I went to the Rock Hall in the early two thousands, 392 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 9: but I think it was much smaller. 393 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 6: There weren't as many exhibits at that point. It was 394 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 6: still fairly you for the rock calls. 395 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 11: So we've got a gospel section here with of course Areta. 396 00:20:54,880 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 6: I love these concert posters. So there's one here the. 397 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 14: Reverend Cel Franklin and his daughter. The state of singers 398 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 14: on this bill playing at high school. High school admission 399 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 14: one dollar in advance. 400 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 6: At the door. 401 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 5: I mean, Elvis played a high school in Cleveland. It's amazing, 402 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 5: you know when he first started doing his sing. 403 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 12: So we're approaching an Elvis exhibit. 404 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: That's all you need to say, because we know it's 405 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: going to be robusting. 406 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 5: Tipper Gore, Wow, look at this. 407 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 11: So I had D Snyder on the podcast yet and 408 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 11: D talked. 409 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 15: About, you know, obviously being up there testifying with the 410 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 15: whole you know, uh, Tipper Gore thing right with Frank 411 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 15: Zappa and John's Denver. 412 00:21:54,359 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 7: I believe the person really and the church I was 413 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 7: going to at the time, they. 414 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 11: Kind of the church elder from you everything well and 415 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 11: like rock music. So they took me downstairs after the 416 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 11: come on and kind of grilled me about what was 417 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 11: going on. 418 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 5: How long ago was this when this was happening? 419 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 11: No, when the the Kipper Coort thing was happening. 420 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 16: Wow? 421 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, were you nervous at all? I was aggravating, Okay, 422 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 5: I'm gonna say, were defiance? 423 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 6: I was? 424 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 5: I was respectful? Okay. 425 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 17: Wow. So they had Thresty and audio talking about Elvis, 426 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 17: and then right in front there when elder, how long 427 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 17: did these guys talk to you in the church? 428 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 10: It was a half hour, I'll do that, the church 429 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 10: elder and talking about an hour? 430 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 2: Really? 431 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 16: Yeah? 432 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 7: Did you lay their pairs or not? 433 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 5: I think I made it worse. Oh man. 434 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 11: So we're going into a section now that's called Cities 435 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 11: and Sounds. 436 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 18: Say. And then we stopped the first one Memphis, Tennessee, 437 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 18: Jerry Lee Lewis, Elvis, Sun Studios, bro Gun Studios, Oh my. 438 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 6: Carl Perkins. 439 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 9: Some great video there of everybody from Jimmy Rodgers to 440 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 9: Bob Kings. 441 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 11: Then we moved along to Detroit, Michigan and movetown. 442 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 5: Oh okay, no sound of young America. 443 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 6: Oh my god, yes, right. 444 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 14: So this, this piece of course covers everybody from Marvin 445 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 14: Gaye to. 446 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 11: The Jackson Five, Mary Wells and the Temptations. 447 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 7: So I don't know much. 448 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 19: I know you listened to the podcast, but we had 449 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 19: Mickey Stevenson on. 450 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 17: Whose Boatown's first ay and our guy signed to all 451 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 17: these folks. And we also had Duke Fakir, the last 452 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 17: remaining member of the four Taps of right. 453 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 5: You know it's a Mayo dude. 454 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 10: Just now here I go again. Man, I want people 455 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 10: know I get excited over this, but just saying the 456 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 10: names gives me goosebumps. 457 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 5: Well, it's so cool. 458 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 11: I'm so grateful that you know, we've had elements of 459 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 11: this touching us certainly, you know inside Taking a Walk podcasts. 460 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 19: And excited that you know many of the episodes will 461 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 19: be inside those archives here within you know, the Rock 462 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 19: Balls Institution. 463 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 5: You know you talk global village too. 464 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 10: Look you've got Memphis, Detroit, London and liverpol just side 465 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 10: by something, but they all. 466 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 5: Tie into each other. 467 00:24:54,320 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 11: Everything does exactly right. I think you look good in 468 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 11: that Hermit Sermons outfit much and then San Francisco, look 469 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 11: at this Ken Keasey a video. 470 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 17: Of him talking about being a pioneer. 471 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 10: You know, Ken Casey co authored two children's books and 472 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 10: a mutual friend of ours and our first son was 473 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 10: born in ninety three. Happened to be with Ken around 474 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 10: the time he picked up the two books. Can sign them, 475 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 10: write a little note. The one note would be your 476 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 10: own tribe. But when I and they wrapped generally, when 477 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 10: I opened them up, a bunch of glitter came out. 478 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 6: Really. 479 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 8: Wow. 480 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 5: Actually, the University of Dayton had a pretty robust. 481 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 11: Entertainment bureau when I went to school there, and this 482 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 11: was certainly in the year of Kent State and every 483 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 11: day where they were trying. 484 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 5: To, you know, educate the students in a little bit 485 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 5: of counter culture. 486 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 6: And I saw Ken Coosey. 487 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 5: Speak at the university date Wow. 488 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 10: And we're looking at these outfits here too, and it's 489 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 10: amazing because we've seen these outfits on stage, on people, 490 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 10: We've seen them on album covers and photos. 491 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 5: It's just amazing. 492 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,719 Speaker 11: Well, some of them look more beautiful than the person, 493 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 11: and I got to see some of them look more ragtag. 494 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 8: Oh. 495 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 9: So with Greg Harris, the CEO of the Rock Hall 496 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 9: of Fame, it's so nice to get to. 497 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 6: Meet you here. 498 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 16: Oh it's my pleasure. You know, in Cleveland is the 499 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 16: capital of the world these days. We had the NCAA 500 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 16: Final four, recently the women's final four. We had this 501 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 16: solar eclipse of totality in front of our place. And 502 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 16: now we're standing inside the Rock and Roll Hall of 503 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 16: Fame itself. 504 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 6: This is great. So how long have you been CEO? 505 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 16: This is going out. It's been ten years and things 506 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 16: are cranking and places. It's I'm really thrilled and honored 507 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 16: to have this responsibility to be here. 508 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 6: Do you pinch yourself every morning when you wake up 509 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 6: to go to work. 510 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 16: I do, absolutely, Usually it's before I get my coffee. 511 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 16: But again, I'm honored to be here. This is a 512 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 16: place that means so much to so many. And you 513 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 16: know what, we all grew up with rock and roll 514 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 16: and it changed and shaped my life in a big way. 515 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 2: Everything is interconnected around music and what it does. 516 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 6: What is so special about music? Have you? 517 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,719 Speaker 12: I asked this in the Take It a Walk podcasting 518 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 12: musicians and producers. 519 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 6: What makes music so special that we can't live without it? 520 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 4: You know? 521 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 16: Well, part of it is, say, at the Rock and 522 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 16: Roll Hall of Fame. It's it's almost time travel. When 523 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 16: you hear a song, it reminds you of where you 524 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 16: were when you heard it before, who you're with, what 525 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 16: you were doing at that time, and it takes you 526 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 16: back immediately. And some of those memories and connections are 527 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 16: actually the magic of this museum. The artifacts are very nice, 528 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 16: but there are simply tools to get you into that 529 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 16: mode to remember all the other connections. And the other 530 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 16: part about rock and roll and music in general is 531 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 16: it connects all of us. It cuts across generations, cuts 532 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 16: across geography. We're all connected in our love for certain artists, 533 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 16: and you sort of expect the people that like the 534 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 16: same artists as you to believe in the same things 535 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 16: you do and to be instant friends. 536 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 9: And in a world that's very divided, it is the 537 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 9: one unifying force. 538 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 6: That we can have around us. 539 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 16: It's very well said. Yeah, there's so many things that 540 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 16: divide us, and this is something that really connects us. 541 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 2: So what's on the roadmap for the future growth and 542 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 2: evolution of the Rock Hall of Fame, because I love 543 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 2: how it's constantly evolving. 544 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 16: Yeah, Well, the short term is that people are traveling. 545 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,719 Speaker 16: We're open all year long, almost every day and all 546 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 16: summer a long. We have concerts outside shows, but longer 547 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 16: term visions. We're expanding the museum where we sit in 548 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 16: this beautiful Impa pyramid. It's now thirty years, we've had 549 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 16: over fourteen million visitors, and we're adding a fifty thousand 550 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 16: square foot edition to the new sem. 551 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 5: It's underway right now. 552 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 16: They're drilling the boring the holes to put the the 553 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 16: pylons in to support this, and we're gonna be building 554 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 16: over the next two years. But we're open every day 555 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 16: even with the construction underway, and we're gonna just keep 556 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 16: giving great, great experience to all these visitors and preserving 557 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 16: the history of rock and roll in our libry and archives, 558 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 16: of which we now have your recordings in our library 559 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 16: and archives. 560 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 5: I'm so excited. 561 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 9: I'm so grateful, and it's something that means the world 562 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 9: because what you're doing here and your team does is 563 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 9: so important and so special. 564 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 12: So I've just expressed I can't express my thanks for 565 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 12: accepting it. 566 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 16: Well, we're glad you feel that way, and we take 567 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 16: it seriously. You know, we treat Elton John's shoes like 568 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 16: their vangoe painting and your podcast we'll be preserving them 569 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 16: as if they're you know, original Beatle records on VJA. 570 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 6: That's what we do here. Greg Harrison, it's so great 571 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 6: to meet you. Thank you for having us here at 572 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 6: the Great Frog Hall of Fame. 573 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 5: My pleasure. 574 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 16: Thanks for letting us share our story with all of 575 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 16: our visteners, and for your generosity. 576 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to this episode of the Taking a 577 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: Walk podcast. 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