Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Welcome back all the smoke, Las Vegas Summer League twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three, coming to you live from the Blue Wires
Speaker 2: Studio again here at the Beautiful Wind Hotel Jack. We
Speaker 2: got another good one. I've been chasing this dude down
Speaker 2: for many over. You're playing with his buttons, pressing the
Speaker 2: cough button brought. Yeah, an good, I'm solid. I see
Speaker 2: y'all's light up.
Speaker 1: I'm like minding like no, Welcome to the show, Emon Sheppard.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: What's up life like now for a retired NBA player
Speaker 2: who is multifaceted in the other.
Speaker 1: Things, acting, rapping, all kind of.
Speaker 2: Break dancing, on dancing, break up for all the other
Speaker 2: athletes that ever want to go on that show?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Correct, what's life like? What's been going on with you?
Speaker 3: I'm I'm chilling. I'm just I guess I'm just working.
Speaker 3: Like with me, I'm just always taking challenges, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So when contractually it didn't make sense,
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, let me see if I can match
Speaker 3: whatever that contract is and still like be around my kids.
Speaker 3: More so, I've just been trying to find outless. That's
Speaker 3: like yeah, we can do stuff. I can still feel creative,
Speaker 3: feel like we progressing every day, and then I feel
Speaker 3: like I can still be around my family, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, because I'm like, it really didn't make
Speaker 3: sense to like I can't work out twelve months trying
Speaker 3: to stay right, and it's like, bro, I don't even
Speaker 3: know what team I'm playing for.
Speaker 1: I don't know what role I'm in.
Speaker 3: I don't know none of this, and I'm like chasing
Speaker 3: and I'm like, bro, I can't do it, and like
Speaker 3: deal with my children and my wife and like our
Speaker 3: lives and schedules. So I'm just like right now just
Speaker 3: focusing and taking it one day at a time with
Speaker 3: like whatever come my way. I'm not gonna be like that,
Speaker 3: you know how. You know how it is as NBA players, though,
Speaker 3: we get all type of opportunities, and.
Speaker 1: I just be like, yeah, I ain't doing that.
Speaker 3: I don't care, bro, I feel to go put that thing,
Speaker 3: you know, And I think now it's just like that
Speaker 3: that that Jim Carrey movie where he just started saying yes,
Speaker 3: I'm just like I'm like whatever. But Dancing with the Stars,
Speaker 3: my mom was like I love that show, all right? Cool,
Speaker 3: let's try.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Well, since you brought that up,
Speaker 2: talked to us because you were the was it the
Speaker 2: only athlete or the first athlete has some guy first
Speaker 2: NBA guy to go on there and like really? I
Speaker 2: was like yo, because I didn't even watch the show,
Speaker 2: and people start talking about you seeing what he minds
Speaker 2: doing on this show, and I went tune in.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, Bro's really out here working life.
Speaker 1: Talk to us about that experience and where your your
Speaker 1: your dancing background came from. I really don't. I don't
Speaker 1: have a dancing back. I think that's how we won.
Speaker 3: I think it was quite obvious when I came on
Speaker 3: the show, like I have no clue what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You get the point of
Speaker 1: some wife, she's the one with that.
Speaker 3: You know. But what's crazy when people don't understand my wife,
Speaker 3: Like my wife, I don't know where she does.
Speaker 1: The practice part. You don't never see it, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like she'll say like, oh, I gotta do this, so
Speaker 3: I got to perform and do this, and I'll be like, well,
Speaker 3: let's go like rent the studio so you could like
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, and she could just do
Speaker 3: stuff on the spot. So even with like dancing, like
Speaker 3: she could pick up the tango and tell me on
Speaker 3: the phone.
Speaker 1: Like you're supposed to be sharp, you're supposed to be.
Speaker 3: Like this doing that, but it's like my body won't
Speaker 3: conform to that without two three weeks of practice. So
Speaker 3: it was like no point in calling her because she
Speaker 3: made it like it's damn easy for her. So I
Speaker 3: like focus on talking to her when it's time to perform,
Speaker 3: like she understands performance and saying like I'm like, yo,
Speaker 3: bab I ain't I ain't really too confident on how
Speaker 3: this look or how this like well that you need
Speaker 3: to lean on your personality or you need to you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, don't look down on these moments
Speaker 3: when the camera swing and do this and you notice
Speaker 3: an eight count, Always try and find the camera. Stop
Speaker 3: looking down at the floor. And you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: makes for any of them. Yeah, So it's like I
Speaker 3: had a good performance at times I might not have
Speaker 3: been yeah, technically because it's by them. It's like if
Speaker 3: you if you touch your your heel on the floor,
Speaker 3: it's like that's as on points. So it's like sometimes
Speaker 3: I did do it wrong, but it's like I had fun,
Speaker 3: I smiled a lot, I gave a performance. So it's
Speaker 3: like the fan at home couldn't tell. They just voting,
Speaker 3: like I like that he having fun. I feel like
Speaker 3: it was more so like leaning into like the rest
Speaker 3: of the world is also the same way, like we.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't know what we're doing, but we would have a
Speaker 1: good time.
Speaker 3: If I was anybody on that show, I'll be one, Well,
Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm doing. Yeah, when I'm having fun,
Speaker 3: like I'm at the cookout with it, like that's all
Speaker 3: I tried to lean on, Like what would I do
Speaker 3: if my auntie them was out here, like and have
Speaker 3: a good time, saying that's all I could do.
Speaker 2: We heard that the perdem bump is a little heavier
Speaker 2: than what we used to get. They say it's thirty
Speaker 2: five hundred person of the ar a little bit higher
Speaker 2: than what we got.
Speaker 1: What where's this fun fact? From what you like?
Speaker 2: Twelve was like a sixty Yeah, and the twenty one
Speaker 2: h you interviewed and spoke that you said you were
Speaker 2: able to save half of your NBA contract money. Where
Speaker 2: did that financial literacy, and I guess the business of
Speaker 2: basketball come from early on with you.
Speaker 3: I put together a great financial team. Early on, I
Speaker 3: had I had a financial advisor, I had my accountant,
Speaker 3: and like my brother's asshole, Like it was just like you.
Speaker 3: That's why I brought him on the podcast. He just
Speaker 3: called bullshit. And when we went into it, I remember
Speaker 3: my brother saying, like, yo, you you got drafted. You
Speaker 3: had no money, you know what I'm saying. You hosted
Speaker 3: little events or whatever, and you made money to like
Speaker 3: be cool and still like be able to like function.
Speaker 3: So he like, you really could function broke bro like
Speaker 3: you've been you know what I'm saying. So it's like
Speaker 3: that point he kind of never let me see. Like
Speaker 3: if I ever was getting one hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 3: dollars whatever check it was on my rookie scale, I
Speaker 3: don't know what it was per two weeks. I had
Speaker 3: mine on the twelve month, so it was like I
Speaker 3: don't know how much every two weeks, but I was
Speaker 3: only seeing half of it. I think in my mind
Speaker 3: that's all I had, like cause you know, we had
Speaker 3: the lockout year. By the time we started, it was
Speaker 3: like so many games. I'm like, Bro, I can't spend Yeah,
Speaker 3: I can't spend no money. I'm tired in four games
Speaker 3: and five nice. Yeah, I don't remember that what I thought.
Speaker 3: We went out there, I had to guard I guarded Rondo,
Speaker 3: then d Rose, and I had Darren Williams. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 3: back to back to back, I'm like, bro, I can't
Speaker 3: even remember my hotel room number. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I can't spend no money. So it was
Speaker 3: like my whole career. I just kept it like that.
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, I don't even want to see half
Speaker 3: of it and bout it. But later on he like, yeah,
Speaker 3: we're just gonna sing you this per month as a budget,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You say, that's hard to do because you have to
Speaker 2: make sure, like you said, it was your brother, but
Speaker 2: make sure you have someone that you could really trust
Speaker 2: with that kind of like you said, I didn't even
Speaker 2: know who my check was. And I was been speaking
Speaker 2: in the Rookie Transition program just about understanding the business
Speaker 2: of the business, you know what I mean, and watching
Speaker 2: your money. What is something you would give to these
Speaker 2: younger players now with so much money on the line,
Speaker 2: these contracts are astronomical and now all the off the
Speaker 2: court stuff that is just common that we really had
Speaker 2: to grind for what is some some tips on the
Speaker 2: financial side you would give some of these younger.
Speaker 3: Players, I would say to think about what you actually need,
Speaker 3: Like we all like make this mistake, because it's it's
Speaker 3: the financial freedom that throw you off. It's like you
Speaker 3: go for whatever. Yeah, you just it's like we never
Speaker 3: could do none of this stuff. So it's like sometimes
Speaker 3: you doing it literally just because you have it right.
Speaker 3: And I guess my advice would be to think smart.
Speaker 3: When you play in a city you're not from that city.
Speaker 3: You don't know if you want to marry that city.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, don't buy a house
Speaker 3: for every team you play for, And you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, like rent that house, like actually go out
Speaker 3: and look around and see where you want to live.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, make an educated guess on that,
Speaker 3: because I just seen guys that got like before they
Speaker 3: know it, they got four houses, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying, And you don't know why.
Speaker 3: Like I was playing here, I got a house, then
Speaker 3: I got traded. I'm over here.
Speaker 1: And I got a house and then I.
Speaker 3: Got an off season house over here just because it's
Speaker 3: warm there.
Speaker 1: It's like, you can't do.
Speaker 3: That, Like I feel like, little by little, you know,
Speaker 3: it just catch up to you and you're not gonna
Speaker 3: notice because you playing.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So if I could advise them to do anything, it's
Speaker 3: just like one be smart with knowing that every city
Speaker 3: you play for, that's a temporary thing.
Speaker 4: One in Oak Park, Illinois talk about Jeb bringing bro.
Speaker 1: I know what it was, but a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 3: It's mine is simple though. It's like it's four boys
Speaker 3: under one house. Like my dad did his best to say.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, y'all gonna be under this house.
Speaker 3: Y'all gonna be something. Y'all gonna do something at all times.
Speaker 3: Like we ain't really have a lot of idle time.
Speaker 3: I want to say, I ain't really have idle time
Speaker 3: ever in my life because I was so busy trying
Speaker 3: to be my dad and be in the busy body
Speaker 3: you're supposed to have responsible, you know how it is
Speaker 3: when man's trying to put that me in like hey.
Speaker 1: Bro, me and don't move like that.
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying, Like you ain't even
Speaker 3: outside all day like what you own. It's like so
Speaker 3: it's like I'm just outside all day, nigga, Like that's
Speaker 3: just what I'm on.
Speaker 1: I like to be outside.
Speaker 3: I like to work at whatever I'm trying to get accomplished,
Speaker 3: and I don't like being around nobody that don't want
Speaker 3: to do that, you know what I'm saying. So it's
Speaker 3: like I kind of kept myself out of trouble just
Speaker 3: from like like really playing basketball for real, Like that
Speaker 3: really kept me out of trouble. Otherwise I'm I'm left.
Speaker 3: I'm a left kid for sure. But knowing that the
Speaker 3: game gonna do that for you, Like the game finna
Speaker 3: keep you so on point because you want to win,
Speaker 3: You want to play everybody. You want that competition. Like
Speaker 3: that's all I think about when I think about my
Speaker 3: upbringing was like Dawg, I literally let a ball take
Speaker 3: me around the city and raise me.
Speaker 1: Joe. I like know the city literally, like mAb's known
Speaker 1: me from.
Speaker 3: Like dude used to be coming into my alley hooping
Speaker 3: like in the morning, Dude there or.
Speaker 1: Walk over here.
Speaker 3: For sure, with that basketball, you're gonna come over here
Speaker 3: tripping every day like real talk like him and his buddies.
Speaker 3: They just got into it with them over there, but
Speaker 3: they just want to hoop all day, like and we're
Speaker 3: gonna see everything we got to see. So like when
Speaker 3: I go home now, like when I'm in Old Park,
Speaker 3: like going to Johnny's sitting down, like people be like
Speaker 3: messed up looking at me, like bro, he just outside like,
Speaker 3: but I'm just like, bro, Like I'm always gonna feel
Speaker 3: like connected to the city in that way, like if
Speaker 3: I could always.
Speaker 1: Eat on top of the hood of my car. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I should always be able to like hold my daughter's
Speaker 3: hands and walk around and mys like, should be able
Speaker 3: to respect it, like I get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I might want to take a picture, I might
Speaker 1: wo wop the fand.
Speaker 3: But it's like he with his daughter's like you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Good to see you, dog, Like I always.
Speaker 1: Want to stay there. That's what I think about it.
Speaker 4: When I grow up Chicago, a lot of legends coming
Speaker 4: from out of there Illinois for basketball, d Wade and
Speaker 4: Isaiah Thomas, dead Rose, any of anybody you looked up
Speaker 4: to when you was coming up up as far as
Speaker 4: who wise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Isaiah Thomas d Wade was always one of my favorites.
Speaker 3: D Rose even though like de Rose was just a
Speaker 3: year ahead of me, Like dude, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 3: dude inspired a lot of shit, you know what I'm
Speaker 3: saying for Chicago, Like it was just he was one
Speaker 3: of the only ones that it was like, Bro, it's
Speaker 3: in his DNA. He never gonna shy away from it.
Speaker 3: He keep it quiet. He don't even say too much,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like it's easy to root
Speaker 3: for him. Uh So, like naturally, because we was out
Speaker 3: West and they was out South, Like naturally, mobs would
Speaker 3: try and like keep me against them, like, bro, you
Speaker 3: gotta you gotta kill him when you see him type shit.
Speaker 3: So it was like I was overly hyped to even
Speaker 3: play Dude in the league, but it was like finally
Speaker 3: getting to meet dude and going against him and everything
Speaker 3: like that. I'm like, bro, he just one of my
Speaker 3: most favorite like respectable guys, like just want to hoop.
Speaker 3: He don't bother nobody, he don't say nothing, like we
Speaker 3: talked about him not having emotion all the time. So
Speaker 3: that was cool. Other than that, though, like I say, shit,
Speaker 3: twan too, Like people forget how good walk ro Cyber
Speaker 3: Twin was a real thing. Eight it's a real thing,
Speaker 3: Like that's NBA Live two thousands, like this this is
Speaker 3: a real thing. Or was it ninety nine that he
Speaker 3: was going It was ninety nine that he was on
Speaker 3: the cover. I can't live but bro, yeah that's what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. That's that dog man like. But it was
Speaker 3: just cool because back in the day, like Twin took
Speaker 3: me out, Like you know, we talk about all the
Speaker 3: time stuff like all the money problems and stuff. Part
Speaker 3: of my financial literacy came from watching that telling me
Speaker 3: at the bowling alley, like.
Speaker 1: What it is. This was after he had lost it
Speaker 1: or yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah this is my like later high school years, but
Speaker 3: this is like when it's coming out.
Speaker 1: Everybody talking about it all.
Speaker 3: Gonna lost some money or just spent too much or
Speaker 3: doing and he just kind of had a real conversation
Speaker 3: with me, like because even when they was talking about
Speaker 3: him losing it, he still was like this generous guy.
Speaker 4: He didn't shy away from it. You still can't talk
Speaker 4: to him, You're still gonna see him, Like he embraced.
Speaker 3: It was crazy Like it was like, and he'll still
Speaker 3: pay for the dinner for everybody, like they saying he
Speaker 3: did broke, but it was like dog, he still would
Speaker 3: come and pay for dinner and would still talk to
Speaker 3: people's smile, take pictures, and he just kind of like
Speaker 3: gave me game on it, just like how it feel
Speaker 3: good and if you want to do that, if you
Speaker 3: if you champion that in your heart, didn't do that,
Speaker 3: but think about this on the backside, I didn't, like
Speaker 3: I didn't get to you got a chance, You're gonna
Speaker 3: be on your way there, like you got a chance.
Speaker 3: Like he definitely like took his time to tell me that,
Speaker 3: And it was like all the Chicago influence though, like
Speaker 3: all them guys pat Bell, will you know.
Speaker 1: The environment everybody. I love that.
Speaker 3: Straight up, even though even though it'd be like your
Speaker 3: whole life, you're gonna definitely rival with niggas like.
Speaker 4: You they love off the court, straight up, straight up
Speaker 4: and actually from the same hometown.
Speaker 1: I love that. Now we got to get one.
Speaker 2: Me and twem been playing back and forth on Instagram
Speaker 2: for like three years, so to one.
Speaker 1: We need you on the show through you played at
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech three years now.
Speaker 4: Our brother damn start of mines the new coach now
Speaker 4: Georgia beautifratulations. Yeah, any memories and tough matchups from.
Speaker 1: Being at g Tech.
Speaker 3: Malcolm Delaney, Malcolm Delaney remember him fucking headache.
Speaker 1: De text a c a CC Tyrese Rice, remember that
Speaker 1: name was me off? Where was he at? He played at?
Speaker 1: Tyre That was Darius Rice's.
Speaker 3: You no BC he so was well Tyrese Rice. I'll
Speaker 3: never forget that. This is my biggest memory of somebody.
Speaker 3: Like it's not too many people that do stuff in
Speaker 3: a game that I feel like, like in my mind,
Speaker 3: I know when they did it, Like I have no response.
Speaker 3: You feel I'm saying how low key and fucked up
Speaker 3: and I can't say it, but you just like the
Speaker 3: first time PAULP.
Speaker 1: Pierce did it like.
Speaker 3: A barely an in and out and pump fake pump
Speaker 3: fake pump fake and then shot it dead in my face,
Speaker 3: I was like.
Speaker 1: Like I did everything. There's nothing I could do.
Speaker 3: A lot of guys like his body is sideways, like
Speaker 3: I can't like it's either he makes or misses that.
Speaker 1: But he shot that too easy, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3: Like Tyrice Rice did some shit where he would get
Speaker 3: the ball in the corner, and most people get the
Speaker 3: ball on the corner with a live dribble, and no
Speaker 3: matter if it's live dribble or not, something about me
Speaker 3: playing defense on them intimidated that man took the ball
Speaker 3: and like put it through his legs, held it back
Speaker 3: and just kind.
Speaker 1: Of stared at me ready type shit, And I was
Speaker 1: like I was guarding it, and at first I was
Speaker 1: like moving around.
Speaker 3: Then I realized he's not moving, he's not adjusting to
Speaker 3: anything I'm doing. He's just holding it up. And like
Speaker 3: my first stab at it, he went. He walked straight
Speaker 3: to the line. He just dropped the ball, walked to
Speaker 3: the line, and it bothered me, like like even talking
Speaker 3: about it right now, it's it's like it's bothering me.
Speaker 3: And then Malcolm Delaney was another one. He was the
Speaker 3: first that was James Harden before James.
Speaker 1: Hard real game.
Speaker 3: Malcolm Delaney knew how to get ten free throws a
Speaker 3: game and I couldn't understand it. I would shoot like
Speaker 3: two three free throws a game. I was not trying
Speaker 3: to flop for a four with try and dunk everything.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try and finish everything. I don't want to
Speaker 3: look soft because my father watching the game, Malcolm Delaney
Speaker 3: would sit at the free throw line. He had games
Speaker 3: where he shot fifteen free throws and I was like, damn,
Speaker 3: that's crazy. Headache and Georgia say other than that, though,
Speaker 3: I used to score thirty on North Carolina because they
Speaker 3: recruited me and didn't promise me point guard, so I
Speaker 3: used to get him or walking thirty.
Speaker 1: In college, you played one or two? I played one.
Speaker 3: I played combo though, Like we had times where they
Speaker 3: bring movef on, you don'fi in and move on would
Speaker 3: play point I pushed too. Yeah, and you have like
Speaker 3: me and Glen Rights Junior running the two and the three, like,
Speaker 3: well we really didn't, you know, we were just playing
Speaker 3: wings at that point. But mostly yeah, I played point guard.
Speaker 3: That's what Paul you would wanted.
Speaker 1: Twenty eleven, You get drafted seventeen Kyrie, Why they play?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What was that class? Like? What was that experience with
Speaker 1: all those guys?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: Man, we had. I feel like we had a hell
Speaker 1: of a draft class.
Speaker 5: Dog.
Speaker 1: I didn't feel to get drafted that ship, know how
Speaker 1: that is?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. That's the first time I ever passed out.
Speaker 1: Of my life.
Speaker 4: Bro, really passed passed out to that night we had
Speaker 4: what you had, but you was d yeah just probably
Speaker 4: just yeah I did.
Speaker 1: I was on I couldn't eat. I couldn't eat all day. Nervous.
Speaker 1: I was nervous. Yeah, like it was crazy, Like my
Speaker 1: like legs was like moving because you don't strike me
Speaker 1: as a motherfucker to be getting nervous. Dang, I was
Speaker 1: sweating like I was tweaking.
Speaker 3: And then my whole family came, like they end up
Speaker 3: inviting me to the draft like the day before type.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was last minute we had to climb. I
Speaker 1: ain't go.
Speaker 3: I said, my ship right to the clib and yeah
Speaker 3: we had. We was at the taco spot. Joe and
Speaker 3: my whole family came. Everybody came. They said my name
Speaker 3: do almost passed what I did? End up passing out.
Speaker 3: But I'm like, because I really was finna go out
Speaker 3: when he said it, but like I was like registered.
Speaker 3: And then my mama. I remember my mama hav ingim
Speaker 3: having me. And when as soon as I felt my
Speaker 3: mama right here and I heard her year, I just
Speaker 3: went out for a second.
Speaker 1: And my brother was like, nigga, you know you said
Speaker 1: that wake up to wake up and then you were
Speaker 1: see me on you It's on YouTube, Joe.
Speaker 3: If you look on that, Joe, you'll see my eyes
Speaker 3: like reregister where I'm at, like, oh ship.
Speaker 1: When we got when this comes out, we'll make sure
Speaker 1: we put that bro.
Speaker 3: Like you go see me, I'm in there thing like
Speaker 3: oh ship, I really we really it's that's it.
Speaker 1: That's the end of the role. Like I feel me.
Speaker 1: We in there.
Speaker 3: Like he said it that Nigga had to reread. He
Speaker 3: was like, em, I said, oh shit, said it shoddy.
Speaker 3: Then next day I found out New York boomed me.
Speaker 3: Y'all bogus, y'all bogus. Just hell, they said, they booed me.
Speaker 3: That's why I played the whole first like a month
Speaker 3: and a half. Oh, I was mean as hell. New
Speaker 3: York thought I was like trying to hype the crowd up.
Speaker 3: I was disrespecting them, like man, I ain't even from him.
Speaker 3: Fuck y'all, Like I felt a way, But it was
Speaker 3: like good for me because they was like, hell, yeah,
Speaker 3: we love it. Fuck them.
Speaker 1: So yeah, say whatever you woke to us.
Speaker 3: They like, long as you do that pick up ninety four,
Speaker 3: you picking people pocketing Duck.
Speaker 2: Curse us out talk about obviously the draft process of
Speaker 2: being seventeen, but to go to a historical freshise such
Speaker 2: as the nick.
Speaker 3: Man that shit I say that was that was a
Speaker 3: learning experience for me because it was like I had
Speaker 3: never dealt with like people really I wasn't like a
Speaker 3: media person, Like nobody really ever gave a fuck what
Speaker 3: I had going on, Like nobody was bothering me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like when I.
Speaker 3: Got to the Knicks, like that was the first time
Speaker 3: I was like, I go out and mys was like,
Speaker 3: oh e mom was out last night.
Speaker 1: I was like what? No, Yeah, I'm like, what the
Speaker 1: fuck is that? Page six?
Speaker 3: What? I'm like, what is that?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 3: Like how all my coaches know everything I do every day? Like,
Speaker 3: but it was like I never dealt with that. I
Speaker 3: never dealt with the media caring about something other than
Speaker 3: scoring of basketball, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like it was a learning experience for me.
Speaker 3: And luckily I had Mellow, I had Tyson Chandler, I
Speaker 3: had Rashid come to next year, Jason Kidd, like Baron Davis.
Speaker 3: I had all these guys like kind of like guide
Speaker 3: me through that because they understood, like you don't know yet,
Speaker 3: but this market, this media, they like, Dog, you don't know,
Speaker 3: but you play for the Knicks like they know you
Speaker 3: in the world. You feel mean, like like it's Knicks
Speaker 3: fans and Argentina right down, like like.
Speaker 1: They're gonna cheer for you.
Speaker 4: Ain't gonna win ship, They're gonna chip you.
Speaker 1: At New York. That wasn't me New York.
Speaker 3: That wouldn't mean, that wouldn't mean. We got y'all to
Speaker 3: the second round. You know, we had some makeups, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Paul George happened. Paul George George,
Speaker 3: that boy happened. That's another one. I'm like, I ain't
Speaker 3: never seen a nigga that could move like this with
Speaker 3: a straight up back.
Speaker 1: Right, how can you move? It almost looks stiff but fluid,
Speaker 1: if that even makes sense.
Speaker 3: It's like, Dog, you look like you're finla fall and
Speaker 3: then you're a jumping wind millet. I'm like, bro, that's insane.
Speaker 3: You look like you off ballance, like when my back
Speaker 3: go stiff like that. Yeah, I'm finna put on the break.
Speaker 3: Y'all played above the rims. I don't know nothing about that. Well, yeah,
Speaker 3: we better take the elevator for you. Take through steps.
Speaker 3: It's a different ball game with dud Man. So you
Speaker 3: get the roller with that back, you're gonna get off
Speaker 3: the floor though, that's what we're making it crazy, like
Speaker 3: he really get off the floor.
Speaker 2: That get off the floor, like get off the floor
Speaker 2: in the rim, quick in the rim, quickly, fast quick.
Speaker 2: You mentioned some of the vets. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 2: them befirst. We want to start with the mayor. Baron
Speaker 2: bart Oatmeal Davis all legends talk to us about beds
Speaker 2: because hey, hey, hey, we was fellowshipping before we started
Speaker 2: the show and Jack was just on some random ship
Speaker 2: mentioned Bear's name and he mine ran from like one
Speaker 2: corner to the up corner, just laughing.
Speaker 1: That's the expression we like.
Speaker 3: To get with b D. Baron Davis is like, you know,
Speaker 3: it's a it's a change, like he's one of the
Speaker 3: most I would say he's one of the most well
Speaker 3: rounded people.
Speaker 1: For these eight different people. In ten minutes, my man
Speaker 1: would give you.
Speaker 3: Street etiquette, dinner etiquette.
Speaker 1: Like gang bang bang, like life experience.
Speaker 3: Don't blend all those conversations into fifteen minutes. And I'd
Speaker 3: be like dog just every time you come back in
Speaker 3: the room, you just on the way somebody else and
Speaker 3: it's like for some reason at some point during the season,
Speaker 3: like people was laughing, but I was like, it's even
Speaker 3: funnier because you make it a lot of sense.
Speaker 4: He is not acting, though, this is not This is
Speaker 4: how he really really you like, it's really you, like
Speaker 4: you really waking up with these ideas and you really
Speaker 4: want them to come true.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah you did.
Speaker 3: No, No, no, I just I never saw somebody like
Speaker 3: you know how. We'll be sitting down, We'll be.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, man, we should just bad, we should just
Speaker 1: make our whole movie.
Speaker 3: Santy'll really say that, and they're really going it. Five
Speaker 3: people make a movie, no bake a movie. You might
Speaker 3: not believe in it. No one care about the movie.
Speaker 1: You've seen Domino. I did. Oh, I'm talking about the
Speaker 1: world they might have s that's his movie, that's his movie.
Speaker 1: It's a movie. I'm playing Domino.
Speaker 2: But he probably started just how you said, let's gonna
Speaker 2: make this movie, and that's how it happened.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it.
Speaker 4: So he'll give you all these ideas and they might
Speaker 4: sound crazy, but I guarantee you two out of that
Speaker 4: five it's.
Speaker 1: A billion dollar project. They're gonna work. They're just sitting
Speaker 1: in his brain. They're gonna work.
Speaker 3: Bro, if you can get the collection of people together
Speaker 3: that can put it, bring it in going down for sure.
Speaker 2: You talked, you told us outside the story of Miami.
Speaker 2: Please tell that story in Miami when.
Speaker 1: You kept getting hard. All right, Okay, So.
Speaker 3: We playing Miami and uh this one I'm.
Speaker 1: With the Knicks and bad came and we used to.
Speaker 3: Play where a lineup where it would be Bed come in,
Speaker 3: I would be in.
Speaker 1: It was like it was a young crew. I just
Speaker 1: know we was.
Speaker 3: It was like we was supposed to play fast and
Speaker 3: Boom was supposed to come in and really like yeah,
Speaker 3: like just do whatever you got because we got a
Speaker 3: small stint where you're gonna get the control to one
Speaker 3: and then we're finna bring Pablo back to change rotate
Speaker 3: like we had a system. So it's like, Boom, you
Speaker 3: get to come in and act a fool. So Boom,
Speaker 3: he feeded me, I'm getting hit when I'm going to
Speaker 3: the basket though, you know your dot's putting me on
Speaker 3: my ass. You know what I'm saying, is they getting
Speaker 3: whatever they could get. Bron being extra d wad be
Speaker 3: an extra cause it's me, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But it was like they was putting me on the floor.
Speaker 3: I hit the lor like toward the end of the
Speaker 3: first half, I'm reaching my head up like telling beer
Speaker 3: and to grab me, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 3: Allight g helped me up like I'm cool, like you know,
Speaker 3: letting him know like I'm cool, Like they found him
Speaker 3: for my free throat. Oh the man didn't.
Speaker 1: He helped me up. He stood over me and saying.
Speaker 3: Hey, man, hey, hey, just want to get the floor again.
Speaker 1: I'm making heart for y'all in l A and with
Speaker 1: every every every.
Speaker 3: I just got knocked out the air. Helped me up.
Speaker 1: He took it tough to everybody around and forgot to
Speaker 1: help me.
Speaker 3: I'm like, dog, I'm sitting on the floor like and
Speaker 3: I'm looking around. I'm seeing everybody like temperature change. But
Speaker 3: I didn't get put on the floor. On the rest
Speaker 3: of the game, I got fouled, but I did not
Speaker 3: get put on the floor. It was a different type
Speaker 3: of to l.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, he can do that. He's one person that
Speaker 1: could do that.
Speaker 3: Yes, you got to respect so but that was my
Speaker 3: first side, because Baron's like the nicest guy in the world.
Speaker 3: Like Baron will give you the clothes off his back.
Speaker 3: He'll take his shoes off for the kids, hand them
Speaker 3: the shoes and walk around his socks for the day.
Speaker 3: I've seen him stop his day and like like some
Speaker 3: kids too much and like go into the CBS and
Speaker 3: buy bubbles. And now I'm like, Baron, we got shooting
Speaker 3: around here, Like yeah, but dog, we have done. We
Speaker 3: always have time for kids, Doc, We always have time
Speaker 3: for kids.
Speaker 1: Doc. Doc, you're not that young, Doc. At one point
Speaker 1: you were a kid. Doc.
Speaker 3: Took five minutes to get you some bubbles. Doc, I
Speaker 3: would have got you some bubbles because I'm Baron Davis.
Speaker 1: Doc.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how you You'll be like bro So in
Speaker 3: my mind, that's who I'm. That's who That's who my
Speaker 3: dog is. Come on, guy, like help me up. That's
Speaker 3: what I'm thinking, Like, hey, he hit the floor again.
Speaker 3: I'm making hard for y'all.
Speaker 4: In l A, I said, when did you start talking?
Speaker 1: Like sounds like every l A movie I watched, like
Speaker 1: this is.
Speaker 3: Every Friday, It's succession brod. I was like I had
Speaker 3: never seen but it was the transition was crazy because
Speaker 3: like right after that we get on the bench and
Speaker 3: he's right back to like that calm, nice guy. Like
Speaker 3: so Bearon Baron Davis is a legend. If y'all didn't know, man,
Speaker 3: the chance to sit down with somebody, to have a conversation,
Speaker 3: you know what they say, what you'd rather do, have
Speaker 3: a conversation with Jay or Hey, man, if they give
Speaker 3: you that split with Bearon Davis, take that beer.
Speaker 1: You gotta take that dinner with him because you might
Speaker 1: have to pay, but take that.
Speaker 4: But but one thing about the dinner.
Speaker 1: Would have know one thing about the dinner.
Speaker 4: You're gonna get a bunch of ideas.
Speaker 1: Get you gonna get the game, You're gonna get the comedy.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get the all in one bro talk.
Speaker 3: And he's gonna give you some gear of whatever. He
Speaker 3: he better give.
Speaker 4: You shirts towels in the studio. Studio so you can
Speaker 4: hear the unreleased oatmeal, bro, bar oatmeal is a serious thing.
Speaker 1: Get you released oat millet.
Speaker 2: While we talking about Baron, talk to us about how
Speaker 2: how Nick's tape came to came.
Speaker 3: To Life's low key it was it was we okay,
Speaker 3: so we're all on the bus right, And we had
Speaker 3: so many personalities on that On that next team though,
Speaker 3: and one we all like kind of knew each other
Speaker 3: and like started laughing at it and our coaches was
Speaker 3: laughing at it. We realized that Mike Woodson like, Bro,
Speaker 3: you got the reins to bullshit, Shortty, like you shouldn't
Speaker 3: have to deal with Mellow shit, a Bari shit, Jason
Speaker 3: Kids shit, Rashi shit, my Young shit Jr. Out every night.
Speaker 3: It was like that roster. You see what I'm saying
Speaker 3: On paper though, That's what I'm saying. Like on paper,
Speaker 3: you looking at it like, oh, they live like they
Speaker 3: finna kill some But I'm like, we really was looking
Speaker 3: at the personalities and they was like, Yo, we're like
Speaker 3: a mixtape.
Speaker 1: This is like an an one mixtape.
Speaker 3: G Like we doing shit we ain't even supposed to
Speaker 3: be doing, like y'all throwing double alley oops.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like Ello over here doing
Speaker 1: the ship.
Speaker 3: She came in doing he like I'm doing three to
Speaker 3: the head this year, Like Nigga was just making shit
Speaker 3: up on the fly. We like, don this ain't even
Speaker 3: like a real thing like this Mellow got that she
Speaker 3: she oh yeah, she came so she go in and
Speaker 3: go and get out because people think Mellow started Mellow,
Speaker 3: thank you Mello did that, and honor she because she
Speaker 3: and remember he had like a knee and a back problem,
Speaker 3: so New York was like thirsty every time she would
Speaker 3: get in.
Speaker 1: So she was like, every time I hit the three,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do three to the head.
Speaker 3: But when he had the back problem and he couldn't play,
Speaker 3: she basically became like a coach for us, like he
Speaker 3: was just that guy in our ear giving us everything.
Speaker 3: He was talking loud as hell to the rest whatever.
Speaker 3: He would always be in a warm up, but he
Speaker 3: knew he wasn't healthy enough to play. So Mellow kind
Speaker 3: of like took it for him, like yeah, like we
Speaker 3: own that. And then Ello started doing it like she
Speaker 3: was doing it, and the kids all knew to do
Speaker 3: it no matter who hit a three.
Speaker 1: But then Ello came down. You know it's Mellow. He
Speaker 1: came down Potwood in the corner. Everybody was like.
Speaker 3: Oh, they like, I'm like, bro, it's Llo, dog, what
Speaker 3: you finla do shortie? Like the man with the head
Speaker 3: Ben did it dog? It's gone with the halo, bro,
Speaker 3: Halo man did it dog? It's over with it. That's gone,
Speaker 3: that's his now. But Mellow was really doing it because
Speaker 3: exactly because Ello, that's what Barn's don't be under like
Speaker 3: Llo was like the coldest leader, cause it was like, dude,
Speaker 3: I ain't never had dude like.
Speaker 1: Embarrass me.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like I've been around some
Speaker 3: leaders that all really put you on front line and
Speaker 3: like you gotta check him.
Speaker 1: Hold on, bro, real.
Speaker 3: Talk grown man, Shortty like, don't do me like that.
Speaker 3: Ello never did me like that. Joe and he I
Speaker 3: ain't never seen him do Nobody on his team like
Speaker 3: Shorty always took it like I could bring more out
Speaker 3: of myself and help the team rather than try and
Speaker 3: tear somebody down. Like even in the media, Dog took
Speaker 3: so many bullets because he knew like he like, man,
Speaker 3: don't know what's going He don't know. He finna tell
Speaker 3: this media anything. He don't know what's going on, so
Speaker 3: he'll always just put all the responsibility on him.
Speaker 1: I'm like, hello, what is you talking about?
Speaker 3: Bro? That wasn't your father, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: What I'm asking him, like what are you doing? And
Speaker 3: like later on, like once I'm getting older, I'm like, damn, Dad,
Speaker 3: you really did take it for us.
Speaker 2: But the funny party about you saying that, and I
Speaker 2: love hearing that because he has such a crazy rap
Speaker 2: because people don't know how he that they consider him
Speaker 2: a bad team man, if if you hadn't played with
Speaker 2: him with the way the picture that the picture the
Speaker 2: media tried to pay but he's this and he's that.
Speaker 2: And then to hear that that he's one of the
Speaker 2: dopest leaders because he will take everything on the chest
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 3: And I got to and I got to play with Bron,
Speaker 3: who's another great leader, and to see the difference in them,
Speaker 3: it's like Bron basically could communicate that Bron can give
Speaker 3: you the whole Bible on basketball, like I'll sit down
Speaker 3: with you, give you the whole Bible. Mellow will talk
Speaker 3: ball with you. But he can't tell you how to
Speaker 3: be mellow, and he ain't really trying to. He just like,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do this because this is my thing that
Speaker 3: I do. And now that you know that I do this,
Speaker 3: this is how you gotta playing, It's how you can move,
Speaker 3: it's how we all could be successful. So it was
Speaker 3: like I got I really had a cheat code on
Speaker 3: like being led like man, I literally got to play
Speaker 3: against the arch enemy, like play on the arch Enemies team,
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying, Like y'all really supposed
Speaker 3: to hate each other, but I got to be up
Speaker 3: under dude. Then I get traded to do and I'm
Speaker 3: just like damn Like I got to see the different
Speaker 3: ways that they lead, which was cool because it was
Speaker 3: like I needed.
Speaker 2: Both amongst the crazy situation you were in the fun
Speaker 2: you were having first team all rookie thirty minutes a game,
Speaker 2: defensive stopper. What was that first taste of the NBA?
Speaker 2: Like I'm here, I'm having fun, but then I'm also
Speaker 2: being recognized for it too.
Speaker 3: Uh. I was just aggressive man like, like I watched
Speaker 3: like like even y'all like Jack No, like I told
Speaker 3: him when I got in the league.
Speaker 1: I told her, I say, Shorty, you were killing on
Speaker 1: my fantasy. I used to dry. I used to make
Speaker 1: sure I had him, like I know.
Speaker 3: Y'all, I know y'all last in the draft, dude, but
Speaker 3: I got him already.
Speaker 1: It's early.
Speaker 3: I'm getting this out the way, Like MIBs would be
Speaker 3: looking at me, like why you just go get Steven
Speaker 3: Jack don't even you feel me like one of my
Speaker 3: guys where it was like no, I'm getting JR. Like
Speaker 3: off the rip, real talk y'all. Finna go get everybody
Speaker 3: you want to get and you don't. That just mean
Speaker 3: you don't play the game enough. You'll know what's going on.
Speaker 1: Like that's cool.
Speaker 3: Like if I got these two, I'm good like and
Speaker 3: I had my little people I picked, so it was like, man,
Speaker 3: having having somebody like that when you come to the league,
Speaker 3: It's like, Bro, I'm like, man, I just want to
Speaker 3: have dudes like that, like look at me and see
Speaker 3: me Like I had a moment. Yeah, I had a
Speaker 3: moment my first game where Ray Allen stopped his shooting routine. Bro,
Speaker 3: you know me, I'm looking. I'm like, Nigga, that's Jesus, Jesus,
Speaker 3: Jesus Shorty. First off, Shorty ain't missed. Yeah, like he
Speaker 3: just everything. Like I'm like, this ship is crazy and
Speaker 3: I'm near way early. I'm not like four hours before
Speaker 3: because I'm just thirsty as hell for my first game
Speaker 3: on Christmas Day. He's sprint because he's seen me like
Speaker 3: warming up and ship, welcome.
Speaker 1: Reality. You know what I'm saying. Like he just stop
Speaker 1: this shoot routine. Bro, I'm on the skout report.
Speaker 3: Gotta be I gotta be somebody, so some something, because that.
Speaker 1: Nigga just ran over here. He ain't saying nothing at
Speaker 1: that time. Boston, Yo. Yeah, now, KG, he was violating
Speaker 1: me the whole game, you know from from was talking
Speaker 1: natty to me on time.
Speaker 3: That's cool, Okay, you made it like real, fucking you
Speaker 3: made the league real Paul was talking insane to everybody.
Speaker 1: For sure. He don't hold back. But I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you something.
Speaker 3: No, it's some funny ship.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: The dude who's sitting right there, that's where he gets
Speaker 4: a lot of attitude and talking and screaming and blocking
Speaker 4: shots when rebounding.
Speaker 1: He get that from him. He was the first person
Speaker 1: in high school a round the time that was screaming
Speaker 1: on rebounds, block and get that ship out of KG.
Speaker 4: Suck went to play with him, and that's where he
Speaker 4: got all that ship from.
Speaker 1: Ask him, he'll tell you he got. That's him.
Speaker 3: That's the big diplomat from jumping McCoy yep to the
Speaker 3: big burn him.
Speaker 2: Him right there, big, I look the big burn off
Speaker 2: the edible of two being fun.
Speaker 1: Heressing babies God, you see it like brethren.
Speaker 3: But I love that, like seeing like being a part
Speaker 3: of that when you're in the league and you get
Speaker 3: to see something that you've seen on T like everybody
Speaker 3: see kg tweak out on TV.
Speaker 1: But to being a to be in a game. It's
Speaker 1: different to.
Speaker 3: Be in a game and hit him really tweaking and
Speaker 3: really saying something to like really disturb you.
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, bro, you really sick. But it's like
Speaker 1: you focusing.
Speaker 3: I could see that your focus is going up as
Speaker 3: you talking this to me, and he steady doing that
Speaker 3: locking in.
Speaker 1: I'm like, d that's some disturbing shit you talking like
Speaker 1: got everybody feel to let this slide. But he just continued.
Speaker 3: And then I realized by like the second time we
Speaker 3: had played against him, maybe the third time, I realized, Oh,
Speaker 3: he not all the way just talking shit. He allowing
Speaker 3: his team to understand where he's at. If they in
Speaker 3: single coverage, one on one, y'all alone, it's all y'all.
Speaker 3: He ain't on shit lord. He ain't on shit lord.
Speaker 3: At first, it was just he ain't on shit, Like
Speaker 3: I feel like you disrespected me while I'm handling the ball.
Speaker 3: But then I realized he's saying, you would clear it's
Speaker 3: one on one quarterback, boll screen ain't coming yet. Okay,
Speaker 3: this is what they running. But he's saying that how
Speaker 3: he talked, So I'm like, damn, bro, that's wrong. Like
Speaker 3: they know him so well that he's to the defense. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, you can get out here and think
Speaker 3: this man gag banging. This man is real life quarterback
Speaker 3: in this whole defense. And I appreciated that, Like my
Speaker 3: student of the game had to go up, like I
Speaker 3: had to realize what was going on, Like I can't
Speaker 3: even be aggressive on the ball in certain situations when
Speaker 3: I got an over communicative as big man behind me,
Speaker 3: Like bro, this nigga is telling every I can't do nothing.
Speaker 1: I gotta stay solid this whole game.
Speaker 3: Like so it was like I learned, Yeah, I learned
Speaker 3: from shit like that, like coming to there and like
Speaker 3: seeing y'all, professor, even just like seeing y'all do shit,
Speaker 3: like you know, when everybody got the scout report that
Speaker 3: I was gonna strip down and everybody just start han
Speaker 3: faking or they start doing this and just taking the foul.
Speaker 3: It was like all that shit meant something to me
Speaker 3: because I'm like they really haven't a justice, Like they know,
Speaker 3: they literally know we're playing against him today. Like I
Speaker 3: just watched film on this nigga for three hours. He
Speaker 3: hasn't done that one time. And instinctively the first play,
Speaker 3: this figure got a foul on me just doing that.
Speaker 3: I'm like, he know who I am. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. But that was like, like we said the
Speaker 3: respect thing. I'm like, that's that's all I ever wanted
Speaker 3: from the league, Like for a motherfucker to feel like
Speaker 3: I got to deal with dude today.
Speaker 1: I got it out.
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're gonna run a play for him,
Speaker 3: I don't know if he gonna hit a shot. I
Speaker 3: definitely got to deal with dude today. I got a
Speaker 3: boogie with him, you know what I'm saying. I always
Speaker 3: wanted that. As long as I had that, I felt
Speaker 3: like I was gonna be successful.
Speaker 2: First round of the playoffs twenty twelve touring ACL coming
Speaker 2: off a great first campaign. You actually returned in six months,
Speaker 2: which is crazy, but talked about your journey, the mental
Speaker 2: process and in the grind of being here, having such
Speaker 2: a good first year, being hurt and then that climb back.
Speaker 1: For me, it was tough.
Speaker 3: I feel like, looking back on it, when I blew
Speaker 3: my wheel, I ain't really know it was gonna be
Speaker 3: a uh a situation that could like change my position.
Speaker 3: Like when I got hurt, I'm like, boom, I'm finna
Speaker 3: come back and was gonna put that ball right back
Speaker 3: in my hand.
Speaker 1: We right back at the PG. We finished, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But it was like when that happened, we signed Raymond Felton,
Speaker 3: pop up Pricky Oni j kidd over there, it was
Speaker 3: like shitty Mark just played him at combo and then
Speaker 3: it was like, next thing, I knew I was guarding
Speaker 3: the three. Then they're like, man, you could guard a
Speaker 3: four because everybody was a step off four, So they like, man,
Speaker 3: he guarding four us. Then I was like he three
Speaker 3: and D, Like what the fuck is that? Indeed, like
Speaker 3: three and what.
Speaker 1: Nigga, what the fuck is you talking about. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: don't play that much.
Speaker 3: D ain't much that much defense in the world to
Speaker 3: call me a three and D guy, Like, I damn
Speaker 3: near like took it like that.
Speaker 1: But when I look back on it, I'm like that
Speaker 1: acl thing.
Speaker 3: Like literally in the league, everything is opportunity and situation.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, It's just timing, like for
Speaker 3: us to win, that's what I had to conform to.
Speaker 3: And I feel like, uh yeah, going through going through that,
Speaker 3: like when I when I look back, I just wish like.
Speaker 1: I would have.
Speaker 3: I don't know, kept kept training as if I was
Speaker 3: point guard. I feel like I like allowed them to
Speaker 3: like yeah, like after after a couple of years, like
Speaker 3: I didn't want to dribble, no more like dribble like
Speaker 3: who the want to off screens now?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, my body was like used to it now, and
Speaker 3: I was like it was weird for me because I'm
Speaker 3: like this.
Speaker 1: Ain't natural, but I'm now accustomed to. Yeah, I'm like
Speaker 1: in a habit.
Speaker 3: Like after eight dribbles, nigga, I feel like I'm doing
Speaker 3: too much. It's like, bro, I just took a couple
Speaker 3: of dribbles, Like really, you're supposed to keep alive dribbled
Speaker 3: the whole time if you re guard, Like I used
Speaker 3: to be like that, and my whole mindset changed. So
Speaker 3: I feel like maybe just I don't know, I almost
Speaker 3: was too obedient, like I should have recognized, like, bro,
Speaker 3: you've had five coaches in five years, Like do your
Speaker 3: thing that got you here.
Speaker 1: But I was like.
Speaker 3: Every coach, I'm like trying to be the best player. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I want to be coachable. I want you to like me.
Speaker 3: I don't want you to feel like I got here
Speaker 3: and I'm disrespecting that NBA logo Like I'm like, no,
Speaker 3: like I could do whatever you say. But I was
Speaker 3: just like, damn, I wish I would have stayed on
Speaker 3: that because it's like, afterwhile I didn't want to dribble,
Speaker 3: I didn't want to jump off one foot no more
Speaker 3: because they were telling me that could protect my ac
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, it was weird, but I ended
Speaker 3: up saying like a lot of the shit that I
Speaker 3: did go through.
Speaker 1: It helped for the championship.
Speaker 3: Shit like if I didn't blow my knee out, I'd
Speaker 3: have been a totally different ball game on that championship team,
Speaker 3: Like I would have totally. I was totally more sick
Speaker 3: in the head when I.
Speaker 1: Was the rookie.
Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I'm saying, Like I totally was
Speaker 3: not coachable at the end of a game, like I
Speaker 3: would have felt like in my heart, like, no, this
Speaker 3: is my turn, mellow. I had the moments, so I'm
Speaker 3: like mellow, I'm gonna give you this, bitch boy. I
Speaker 3: really want to shoot this really really bad, but I'm
Speaker 3: gonna give you this. I'm gonna give it to you
Speaker 3: because you a hundred million, hundred million. You see, it
Speaker 3: was a rookie contract, A hundred percent want to shoot this,
Speaker 3: and I feel like going through that, acl going through
Speaker 3: all that, I start realizing, like, gee, honestly, no matter
Speaker 3: what y'all throw at me, the only thing I dreamed
Speaker 3: about was an NBA championship. So however, I gotta get it.
Speaker 3: I'm feeling my role. Yeah, I'm feeling through it.
Speaker 4: When I say this name, it is somebody who who
Speaker 4: is my real brother. We talked to a lot. I
Speaker 4: talked to a lot.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: He constantly give me my problems on how the beginning
Speaker 4: when he come into the career, his career. I showed
Speaker 4: him how to move and do these things. When I
Speaker 4: say his name, just give me the first thing that
Speaker 4: you think they'll come to your mind, Jared Smith.
Speaker 3: That's like dog like I ain't never had like nobody
Speaker 3: like you know, I might be.
Speaker 1: Like, hey, what's up, twin?
Speaker 3: Like yeah, like if I had to like have an
Speaker 3: NBA twin up bro, Like dude never turned down a
Speaker 3: one on one Like I got into it with him,
Speaker 3: Like it's to the point like we had such a
Speaker 3: close like bond period as far as like they want
Speaker 3: to hoop, like and they want to hoop, they want
Speaker 3: to play fast, we want to get up and down,
Speaker 3: we want to learn, we want to do this. It
Speaker 3: was like Ji carried a young spirit because I think
Speaker 3: he carried an even younger spirit when I when he
Speaker 3: had to deal with me in New York, because he like, yeah,
Speaker 3: like I get what he on was because I was young.
Speaker 1: I came in and y'all was on some old ship
Speaker 1: with me. I wanted the older nigga to do what
Speaker 1: I wanted to do, like so he.
Speaker 3: Kind of like was helping me out with that part
Speaker 3: of it, like I know what you want to do,
Speaker 3: Like you're young, you want to you still want to.
Speaker 1: Come here, right, you feel me?
Speaker 3: Like that was always swish And then like as I watched,
Speaker 3: because you know, I watched him have to deal with
Speaker 3: like people saying all this like negative shit on his name,
Speaker 3: it was like this, I don't know, it's like a
Speaker 3: black cloud that everybody was like, dude, it's like a
Speaker 3: bad person or some shit like damn, there was so
Speaker 3: much excuse me, so much in New York that I
Speaker 3: was like, I started a little like feeding into it
Speaker 3: a little bit, like, Damn, this dude.
Speaker 1: Really I need to tell my dog to like tighten up.
Speaker 3: But I'm like, nah, because when I'm going to pick
Speaker 3: him up, bro, he you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 3: he got his kids, don't like talk about when he
Speaker 3: got his little kids with him, He got all of
Speaker 3: them with him. Then he got his nephews with him too, like,
Speaker 3: and they going shopping and getting skateboards and doing all
Speaker 3: this all day, and him and his father and his
Speaker 3: mother they all having that. I'm like, bro, they got
Speaker 3: like a scheduled like family lifestyle. Like and y'all talk
Speaker 3: like this dude is like the worst person in the
Speaker 3: world on the outside look at and he's disrespectful. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 3: I've never seen him disrespect our coach. I've seen him
Speaker 3: run through the wall for us for no reason. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like, we throw this man a
Speaker 3: ticking time bomb all game. Every time the shot card
Speaker 3: get low, we throw it to him, because don't nobody
Speaker 3: else want to mess up?
Speaker 1: They percentage and love it for you and make it
Speaker 1: and say thank you. Nerve to say good past be
Speaker 1: like Nigga, Like.
Speaker 3: If y'all go, I want y'all to go. Look at
Speaker 3: where Cleve we played in the garden. Me and Jayon
Speaker 3: came back.
Speaker 1: We was in Cleveland.
Speaker 3: I threw this man oop Joe because he went back door.
Speaker 1: I see it here talking about break past tape. What
Speaker 1: that over last? Push it out. I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 4: The past made him be great heat.
Speaker 1: It was an awful path. You'd have been pissed off,
Speaker 1: Like you know, I don't jump like that with the
Speaker 1: windows stands with me.
Speaker 3: It laid it up and looked at me like come
Speaker 3: on man, I was gonna go up and get that way,
Speaker 3: but I ain't jumping for that. Like that's what I
Speaker 3: felt like when I threw the past, Like damn, that
Speaker 3: was so terrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he finish grabb it and just happened.
Speaker 3: He sayd I say, bro, you're gonna say good pass
Speaker 3: for that. I hugged him laughing like that was awful past,
Speaker 3: Like it was awful.
Speaker 1: It was sick.
Speaker 3: But like I always look up playing with Swiss because
Speaker 3: Swiss was like the dude that, Like I said, it
Speaker 3: was like twin shit, like like that double Alley we was,
Speaker 3: we be thinking the same shit, Like we really be
Speaker 3: thinking the same shit, Like he like, shit, if you
Speaker 3: say that shit like shit, if I'm in with you, tape,
Speaker 3: just throw it to the other end. You get what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, if you saving the ball, don't even
Speaker 3: like try and find me, just throw.
Speaker 1: It to the other Endlo, I'm headed down at home.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And the first time he realized, like this little nigga,
Speaker 3: remember that's I feel like that's what he did randomly
Speaker 3: one game. Oh you remember that I told you to
Speaker 3: do that. I took that shit and launched that shit.
Speaker 1: JR.
Speaker 3: Ran and grabbed everybody in New York, Like how did
Speaker 3: they know? I'm like that nigga told me to throw it.
Speaker 3: I ain't had nothing going on. I had no way
Speaker 3: to see what was I said, I'm just gonna throw
Speaker 3: it to see if he go get that shit.
Speaker 1: And he went and got it.
Speaker 3: Like, don't make you make a mistake, Like if you
Speaker 3: got somebody like that or like somebody on the post.
Speaker 1: You'll know you did this to me before Stack.
Speaker 3: But Sack Stack had a pitch post and he was
Speaker 3: asking for the ball.
Speaker 1: Hey, they got the switch on on me.
Speaker 3: He asked for the for the ball on pinch post
Speaker 3: and uh, I'm like, you know, I'm crowning. He like
Speaker 3: fuck him, just like that, like funck him.
Speaker 1: I don't get what he like said fuck him, and
Speaker 1: they threw him the ball out something.
Speaker 3: Most disrespectful ship. So the most disrespectful ship I ever
Speaker 3: dealt with. But that's the type of ship. Yeah, real
Speaker 3: talk you. Definitely it was crazy go like he was
Speaker 3: looking the ball when he got it, throw nothing, just
Speaker 3: jabbed old man game.
Speaker 1: He looked at me like, bro, we.
Speaker 3: Not doing I'm not doing this with you. He just
Speaker 3: kept shabbing me until my stance got lower. He knew
Speaker 3: I was gonna get thirsty, like you.
Speaker 4: Know, one of them dudes get damn low as soon
Speaker 4: as you put it on the floors. Yeah, I ain't
Speaker 4: got time. Hand was ready, so it wasn't like that.
Speaker 4: I'm two dribbles man already jabbed. He just got me
Speaker 4: out before I knew it. All My knees is completely.
Speaker 1: I'm so low to the ground wait, waiting on the drip.
Speaker 1: Just old school around, comfortable to go.
Speaker 3: Around after the fuck you was crazy everybody play with sup.
Speaker 4: We always burn out and then after New York nights,
Speaker 4: so you know how that is shot around at ten Nigga,
Speaker 4: don't get in the hotel the eight, bro, you know
Speaker 4: how they go. I mean what we did speaking on
Speaker 4: chemistry heading into the Championship in the Run Championsip Run
Speaker 4: twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: A young team, but a team that was able to come.
Speaker 4: Together and do something great. How wasn't being around Kyrie
Speaker 4: and the rest of those guys, man, that ship was
Speaker 4: I ain't gone.
Speaker 3: That was That was a good time, man, And I
Speaker 3: think that we were so dysfunctional as a team. Bro.
Speaker 3: We had to win some shit. Like I'll be telling
Speaker 3: people all the time, like one of the one of
Speaker 3: the things I seen with like the Grizzlies, Right, you
Speaker 3: can say what you want, they need dealing Brooks. I
Speaker 3: said that, yep, Like you need that one guy that's
Speaker 3: he a little off, don't I said?
Speaker 1: Steve Kurs said it.
Speaker 4: Draymond Green, you need him. Matt Barnes, you need him.
Speaker 4: You need him on our test. You got to have
Speaker 4: a guy like that on your team. That's somebody that
Speaker 4: this the other side be looking like. You know what,
Speaker 4: let's lead that taking time bomb alone. But we need
Speaker 4: to back off. Dude, let him rock.
Speaker 1: Here, gonna die for you out there, real talk, real talk,
Speaker 1: and he gonna change the momentum of the game.
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying. Like like when I look
Speaker 3: at our twenty sixteen team, when me and Swish got there,
Speaker 3: I felt like I had never been traded before one.
Speaker 3: I have never been a part of that. But when
Speaker 3: I got there, me and Swish kind of looked at
Speaker 3: each other after the first couple of practices we did
Speaker 3: to get.
Speaker 1: Y'all traded for not to cut you off, you remember, no,
Speaker 1: because it was a three way. I was so blue
Speaker 1: g y. I don't know it was.
Speaker 3: We probably got traded for an eighth grader, get traded
Speaker 3: for a sixth grader. Man, uh, But I just remember
Speaker 3: looking at Swish and being like, Bro, they needed us here,
Speaker 3: Like we just changed the whole dynamic of this team.
Speaker 3: Like it's aggressive now, they talking shit, like we just
Speaker 3: played them. When we was with the Knicks, we had
Speaker 3: played them, we beat them to open the night, and
Speaker 3: I remember playing against them and being like, Bro, y'all
Speaker 3: all the quietest motherfuckers I've ever seen, Like y'all don't
Speaker 3: even y'all act like y'all ain't jukie, Like y'all just
Speaker 3: put a team together, sweaty.
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be lit over here. Y'all supposed to
Speaker 1: be having fun.
Speaker 3: And I felt like they were still figuring it, but
Speaker 3: they was like putting too much pressure on themselves.
Speaker 1: And me and Swiss just kind of came.
Speaker 3: Over there like free free, yeah, Like we was just
Speaker 3: like it's lit, bro.
Speaker 1: We were just in New York. We was on a
Speaker 1: losing streak. I'm hurt.
Speaker 3: We was in the you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 3: we was going through a rough time and then we
Speaker 3: got traded.
Speaker 1: Not able to fix that situation. Like we came over
Speaker 1: there to the cast.
Speaker 3: We was like this new energy, like it was a
Speaker 3: bounce happening, like and we got Mazi.
Speaker 1: We went and got Mazi and he came over.
Speaker 3: I'm like, dog, it's like we our defense went up.
Speaker 1: We started getting hungry on defense.
Speaker 3: You know the media is they would always do shit
Speaker 3: with Kyle, like, you know, they want to know if
Speaker 3: kay Gon have a thumbs up for a thumbs down
Speaker 3: to day. I don't know why they do Kyle like
Speaker 3: that where they just act like my man just a
Speaker 3: space cadet or something. But Kyle was running around there
Speaker 3: getting forty you know what I'm saying, Bron coming out there.
Speaker 3: Just I've never seen somebody understand how to play with
Speaker 3: they I call it playing with their toys like Roan,
Speaker 3: Like the man know how to play with his toys
Speaker 3: so good.
Speaker 1: Like he ain't gonna let.
Speaker 3: His uh his bike overhill had dust on it and
Speaker 3: is He's still gonna ride his faux wheeler and his
Speaker 3: dirt bike and he's still gonna drive his pusch. Like
Speaker 3: it's like, Bro, you real life, use every weapon on
Speaker 3: your roster, like whether people know that's why you got
Speaker 3: him or not, Like he gonna use it.
Speaker 1: He gonna make sure that he do that.
Speaker 3: And being a part of that team and seeing like
Speaker 3: a Kevin Love have an issue, first of all, being
Speaker 3: on other teams, you would never think Kevin Love would
Speaker 3: ever have an issue with like, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: just a rough stint where it's like I'm like, bro,
Speaker 3: I'm so used to seeing you do forty and twenty.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know you had like modes where it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you all for you Just feeling like not as confident
Speaker 3: because you don't create your own shot all the time
Speaker 3: like these guys do. Like now you're playing with people
Speaker 3: that are commanding the ball all the time, and you
Speaker 3: have to be efficient with just whatever touches. So I
Speaker 3: had never seen somebody like that even have to go
Speaker 3: through something. So when I'm watching him do that, and
Speaker 3: I'm watching how Brown would lead through that and help
Speaker 3: him through that and make sure he looking out for
Speaker 3: him even t lou like making sure he run a
Speaker 3: play real quick to make sure somebody get a quick
Speaker 3: shot and they stay engaged, making sure I get a
Speaker 3: quick back door and get a dunk, so I stay
Speaker 3: engaged and I still run through a wall. Like we
Speaker 3: all got to learn in that because we was all dysfunctional. Bro,
Speaker 3: everybody had a time during that year that they was
Speaker 3: just on their booho bullshit, Like I was boohooing at
Speaker 3: one time, just feeling like nigga, I want to play point,
Speaker 3: like y'all got DELI playing point, and.
Speaker 1: I want to play point, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like we getting into it in practice, overdo it and
Speaker 3: in practice like I remember.
Speaker 1: Getting into it and broad practice.
Speaker 3: Now we end up fit to fight down that shit
Speaker 3: was so fun, bro, Like their practice was so.
Speaker 1: Lit because it's a unit. Yeah, we was like what
Speaker 1: we like, man, fuck the first team, Bro.
Speaker 2: That's what even we try to explain, not to cut
Speaker 2: you off when we used to really practice. Second units
Speaker 2: used to be the lie of the first units in
Speaker 2: this league.
Speaker 3: First you to try to chill. Not today, not today.
Speaker 3: And I'm blaming everything on Bruh. I was blaming bro
Speaker 3: Bro Joe he left. Yeah, he begambled. I'm saying everything
Speaker 3: I'm saying getting anybody in trouble. But I want I
Speaker 3: want practice to be live like that. And by the time.
Speaker 5: Playoffs hit, like t Lou was having to chill on
Speaker 5: practice with us, like hey, y'all, yeah, y'all too, like
Speaker 5: y'all be too hype for that five minute scrimmage, Like
Speaker 5: y'all doing too much.
Speaker 1: But it was like that ship made us so like together.
Speaker 3: Then that three one shit happened and everybody was just
Speaker 3: talking like y'all are finna go home, y'all. But we
Speaker 3: sat on that on that on that bus going back,
Speaker 3: and Broun was like, no, we're gonna win Game five.
Speaker 3: They gonna say woo woo, They're gonna do that. We're
Speaker 3: gonna come back here. We're gonna get game six, right,
Speaker 3: and then they finish get scared because we no longer
Speaker 3: like he like, we actually in the best position. We
Speaker 3: have no pressure on us. We're supposed to lose. He's like,
Speaker 3: but we're gonna win tonight. And then we finished. And
Speaker 3: when he said that, I just remember everybody on the
Speaker 3: bus being like, hell yeah, we definitely feel to win.
Speaker 3: Everybody demeanor changed, like we weren't even mad no more.
Speaker 3: We was like, you know, how to the bus here
Speaker 3: we first get on, it's quiet, everybody in their headphones.
Speaker 3: Oh bro, Shorty ass was like nah, and everybody just
Speaker 3: scored to turn their headphones down to and we was
Speaker 3: all on the bus like, yeah, bro, we one hundred
Speaker 3: percent not for the hundred percent And Draymond had.
Speaker 1: To sit out that one game.
Speaker 3: Were like, oh, y'all, y'all they like that without Shorty,
Speaker 3: y'all need Shorty to talk for y'all. Once we figured
Speaker 3: that out, because Draymond is a people don't understand, like,
Speaker 3: that's a big hole if you you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: if you're playing with that all year, somebody that just
Speaker 3: talks brings that type of energy and then you play
Speaker 3: without them, it just adjusts, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: What you got going on it Justice jumped in front
Speaker 3: of a lot of stuff, all real talk, and we
Speaker 3: didn't notice that. So it's like once we did that
Speaker 3: and we rolled with that, I'm just like, bro, they
Speaker 3: couldn't have put together a better team to like go
Speaker 3: through that like we had Richard Jefferson. It's like, bro,
Speaker 3: like having those guys, like, by the way, as funny
Speaker 3: as they are, they are incredible professionals, like Richard Jefferson,
Speaker 3: Like I was so happy to have gotten to learn
Speaker 3: from them because it's like they laugh, they have a
Speaker 3: good time.
Speaker 1: You know, they funny as hell. They gonna have a
Speaker 1: good time.
Speaker 3: But they are always, always, always finna preach professionalism class
Speaker 3: and like they made sure I did stuff like even
Speaker 3: if I was like being fun, like they would run off.
Speaker 3: Hey man, you missed that kid. That kid just put
Speaker 3: his hand out. Always hit the kids hands. I don't
Speaker 3: give fuck. I don't give a fuck how much we lose.
Speaker 3: You not that mad, you know what I'm saying. We
Speaker 3: got eighty two games, You're not that mad. Smack that
Speaker 3: kid hand smack every teammate hand every time you come out, like,
Speaker 3: don't be a bitch like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Like they would check you and do stuff like that. Bro,
Speaker 3: So I got I'd have had it good, man. I
Speaker 3: ain't gonna lie. I'd have had it good in the league. Bro,
Speaker 3: they'll put you on some teams if you look key,
Speaker 3: go back and look to you. I've been finding some history.
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. I look at this like.
Speaker 3: This team did.
Speaker 1: What he said? You get so lucky.
Speaker 3: The step back right, wouldn't it?
Speaker 1: Was it the truth? In the huddle he told you
Speaker 1: lu give me the ball? Or was that just urban legend?
Speaker 3: He told you he would give them ball like this
Speaker 3: was early in the fourth. He was frying, he was,
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. He was early in the fourth.
Speaker 3: He said he wanted the ball because uh Bron Bron
Speaker 3: wanted a Uh he wanted a three to one screen.
Speaker 3: Bron was he like, yeah, he the biggest Like matchup, Nick,
Speaker 3: Bron will play chess with you. It be stone cold
Speaker 3: to crowd, be quiet. He'd be at the top. No, no,
Speaker 3: make him him like him like no, he gonna play
Speaker 3: like no, he gonna play today he'd be like whoa buddy,
Speaker 3: Like WHOA calm down, but he'd be dead serious. So
Speaker 3: he brought that over and we realized Steph wasn't trying
Speaker 3: to match up with Kyle. I don't remember the foul
Speaker 3: situation or what it was, but all we took it
Speaker 3: is like, oh, you scared a dude.
Speaker 1: You scared a buddy, So we just failed him.
Speaker 3: If if Steph came and guarded me, if they tried
Speaker 3: to do a triple switch whatever they tried to do,
Speaker 3: I say, bro, if I go down here and I
Speaker 3: set this screen and Steph switch off and try and
Speaker 3: go on me while I'm in the corner, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: bring my screen up too, and now you got a
Speaker 3: double screen.
Speaker 1: But you, Finnah have to guard Kyrie.
Speaker 3: And once we knew that at the end of that,
Speaker 3: like I mean, if you watch film, you knew Kyrie
Speaker 3: he gonna get to that right wing and he gonna
Speaker 3: punish you. But if you watch film, you know that.
Speaker 3: I just don't feel like they watched enough of it
Speaker 3: because dude wasn't Dude was trying to he Kobe.
Speaker 1: In his mind, didn't.
Speaker 2: Hundred Play said that was one of the biggest regrets
Speaker 2: of his career was switching that screen. I think Clay
Speaker 2: came out and said, that's the biggest one of the
Speaker 2: biggest regrets of my career was switching that screen.
Speaker 1: Clay in his mind, he like, I know exactly what
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 4: Clay, Gary Payton, whoever was on that wing was getting
Speaker 4: cook on.
Speaker 1: This show, the show.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying, like, I know that, I know that
Speaker 3: that that energy that Clay talking about where it's like
Speaker 3: I knew good and well, I know what this is,
Speaker 3: I know what's about to happen.
Speaker 1: And now I got to watch it on TV.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like now I gotta sit here and act like yeah,
Speaker 3: like my one of my biggest regrets. And Steph, I'm
Speaker 3: sure you would have been the light skinned man either way.
Speaker 1: He was gonna be the light skinned man. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You was that was destined for you. But I feel
Speaker 3: like when you came to the Garden and I let
Speaker 3: Raymond Felton's pride getting away and he had fifty let
Speaker 3: me tell.
Speaker 4: You why I'm not I feel you because Raymond Felton
Speaker 4: was on my team. Jamier Nelson had twenty points in
Speaker 4: the first quarter. The first three games of the first
Speaker 4: round of the playoffs on him.
Speaker 1: So I get it.
Speaker 3: I get it when I tell you my dog, But
Speaker 3: I get Raymond, that's my dog too, That's what I said.
Speaker 3: I Raymond said, schump No, Like he was like, bro,
Speaker 3: light Like stop. I'm like, gee, come on, ge like,
Speaker 3: come on. Because I switched off to him, I immediately
Speaker 3: poked the ball away. Let's get to this dude, Joe like,
Speaker 3: stop letting dude do this. But he really be doing
Speaker 3: this to us, Like, stop.
Speaker 1: Letting to do this. He really be doing it real
Speaker 1: because I've seen it coming coming. I'm like, the confidence
Speaker 1: is changing. Gee.
Speaker 3: He going back to Davidson on us. Bro, Nah, his
Speaker 3: jersey ain't read. Bro, don't let him do that, you
Speaker 3: feel me. I'm like, he doing the ship that We
Speaker 3: was like, you can't do that in the league. He
Speaker 3: started doing it.
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you going too fast, shooting that jumping Now, that's
Speaker 3: too much.
Speaker 1: You ain't even holding it up no more. You ain't.
Speaker 3: You ain't either, Yeah, falling this ship. No, Bro, Now
Speaker 3: he talking to the crowd, he pointing that fans. I'm like, Steph,
Speaker 3: don't even do that.
Speaker 1: I think it was us my bad. He a New
Speaker 1: York My bad if I was a part of that
Speaker 1: because Shorty I did not.
Speaker 3: I could have ran up to Raymond like a g
Speaker 3: you're guarding whatever the fuck else, but I'm now guarding
Speaker 3: Steph ninety four feet. But I had just got back
Speaker 3: from injury. So they was like shunping you, overgassing yourself.
Speaker 1: He's gonna do you. That's how they were saying. You
Speaker 1: on a minute restriction, he's gonna do you. Let rain
Speaker 1: and handle willing to reblow this wheel. Just yes.
Speaker 3: I really felt like in my heart like we are
Speaker 3: birth in an animal. Bro.
Speaker 1: I really think of that moment.
Speaker 3: I'm like, Bro, I think we ignited that confidence that
Speaker 3: came because after that game, Bro, he got very disrespectful.
Speaker 3: He got disrespectful shit twelve thirteen, twenty twelve thirteen, Yep,
Speaker 3: that's it. I had just got back, Bro. I had
Speaker 3: to wear a sleeve on my knee. I never I
Speaker 3: had a black sleeve on my knee. Bro. I'm like,
Speaker 3: Shorty ass was really dragging us. And I'm like, Shorty,
Speaker 3: y'all acting like this right, I was coming to I
Speaker 3: never forget being in a huddle.
Speaker 1: Ron better, what is he right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: My dog my bad. But yeah, I like call my
Speaker 1: nigga ro I just like you Moran. We don't call
Speaker 1: him meta. B better start rubbing my shoulders, like calm down.
Speaker 3: If he telling you to calm down, he like, be cool?
Speaker 1: What's it? No, it couldn't have been meta though, cause
Speaker 1: Meda came the next who KT Kurt Thomas came, grabbed
Speaker 1: my shoulders. Say hey, that sounds different. He say, a man,
Speaker 1: calm down, calm down. But I'm like, I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: what the fuck this nigga? Caugh like three.
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, this is he putting bullets in us?
Speaker 3: Bro Like what y'all mean? It's not cool? Foul um
Speaker 3: hit him. I'm like, bro, what y'all talking about? He
Speaker 3: ain't got no bruises on nothing. Hit him?
Speaker 1: Hit him? Like what are you talking about? Bro? Take
Speaker 1: a foul he coming off the screen. Hit him.
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, y'all want me to do it? But
Speaker 3: I'm like asking coach. They like, man, somebody get wild Man,
Speaker 3: but he liked he like, come get wild Man over here.
Speaker 1: Calm down, man, that man on the They like talking
Speaker 1: to me like.
Speaker 3: It's before we knew that the man had fifty and
Speaker 3: the Garden was cheering for him.
Speaker 1: I say they cheering for him.
Speaker 3: I was sick. Bro, light skinned man. I just want
Speaker 3: you to know, bro, light skinning my day. Do you
Speaker 3: know the light skinning man, the light skinning man, the
Speaker 3: light skin Do you know the light skinning.
Speaker 1: Man that lives on jewelry Lane.
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Bro, that light skinned man that got after that, it
Speaker 1: was real. Yeah, it was run away with it.
Speaker 3: After that he started shooting from forty other than start
Speaker 3: turning around when he's show him like you Gilbert Arenas,
Speaker 3: now you Gilbert Jesus Christ agent zero pieces.
Speaker 1: Man Nix will do it.
Speaker 4: That's you standing everybody in confidence. He standing going trust man.
Speaker 4: I was about to say something, what's the.
Speaker 1: Best version of Bron? Best version?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you play with him, you've seen him a couple
Speaker 1: of times. Yeah, what's the best version you've seen?
Speaker 3: I think the best version I saw Bron was you
Speaker 3: remember the year that uh they lost to when Dirk won. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that next year, that next year they came back when
Speaker 3: him and d Wade vowed to not shoot, not settle
Speaker 3: for threes, and they played that whole first season and
Speaker 3: they wasn't shooting no threes. They was just attacking. It
Speaker 3: was vicious. I was like, bro, what the fuck are
Speaker 3: we supposed to do with that? I was looking at
Speaker 3: the league like going downhill too when I get there?
Speaker 1: How am I gonna What am I gonna do about that? Like?
Speaker 1: What is that? Nigga? Like they're running fast, they big
Speaker 1: as ship.
Speaker 3: I'm like d Wade and Brun literally passing it back
Speaker 3: and forth and just downhill, downhill, down game. Yeah, I'm like,
Speaker 3: y'all not gonna shoot. They was pumped, faking every three
Speaker 3: no matter how wide open it was, and attacking. I
Speaker 3: feel like that was the scariest Broun to deal with.
Speaker 3: He was so focused, Like you remember that clip when
Speaker 3: they did they I think they did the the.
Speaker 1: Oop, they did the oop they dunked it.
Speaker 3: You would have me watch this clip like ten times
Speaker 3: before the game they called a ooh dunky Ron d
Speaker 3: Wade and Chris Bosh did the fastest sprint like right
Speaker 3: next to each other, like it was like to get
Speaker 3: back on defense.
Speaker 1: I was like, Nigga, that's the scariest shit I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: In my life, those three right there going on a breakaway,
Speaker 3: banging that bitch after like passing it back and forth,
Speaker 3: and then sprinting back to where you can't throw an outlet.
Speaker 3: I was like, well what I was, I'll be remembering
Speaker 3: shit like that because it's like, bro, like you feel
Speaker 3: me like Bron being able to do that and say,
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm not gonna shoot a three now,
Speaker 3: Like that's what's crazy about Broun. Every version is scary
Speaker 3: now that I think about it, because it's like even
Speaker 3: now he can say I'm done dunking on y'all, but
Speaker 3: you still finna have to deal with my back to
Speaker 3: the basket and you got deal it.
Speaker 1: I can still pass it really really good. If I
Speaker 1: don't feel like, if I catch a rhythm, I'm here
Speaker 1: five or six threes on you, we'll talk real talk,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And I figured out this free throw thing for the
Speaker 3: most part, For the most part, my nigga, My nigga
Speaker 3: is still once the while that he do ship.
Speaker 1: I'll just be eyeballs out. He funny though, Bro, Yeah,
Speaker 1: how did it happens? Shutty?
Speaker 3: Funny though, Bro, it'd be funny bro, like IQ unbelievable,
Speaker 3: She lou.
Speaker 2: He's our next guest actually today. Talk to him as
Speaker 2: a as A as A coach players coach.
Speaker 1: Yeah what was he? Like?
Speaker 3: It was cool being with because Lou, like you said,
Speaker 3: a players coach is way easier like to deal with.
Speaker 3: He's been there, like Mike Woodson one of my favorite coaches,
Speaker 3: because what he every wances in while black let me
Speaker 3: get give me the ball and then he'll show you
Speaker 3: what he talking about. She Lou is another one that
Speaker 3: I don't even think he would realize that he would
Speaker 3: do it every once in a while. Then you just
Speaker 3: throw him the all and he don't he can't help it,
Speaker 3: but to like try and show you, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, and he like turns into a player for
Speaker 3: a second. And in those moments, like especially with me
Speaker 3: just being a fan of ball, it's like, gee, I'm
Speaker 3: learning from T. T.
Speaker 1: Lou, Like this is Tyrone Lou like.
Speaker 3: The same you know what I'm saying, Like I get
Speaker 3: it here, my coach, because this is totally Tyrone Lulai.
Speaker 3: I totally used to watch this guy play basketball, so
Speaker 3: I'm already a fan. So it's like it's easier to
Speaker 3: learn from that than seeing him within a suit, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, and then like seeing his his
Speaker 3: his ability to say I'm gonna make an adjustment or
Speaker 3: I'm not going to make an adjustment, but I recognize
Speaker 3: adjustment needs to be made, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Great in game adjustment coach.
Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, Like he will look at the other side
Speaker 3: and be like, hmm, I see what y'all doing.
Speaker 1: Hey, y'all time out?
Speaker 3: Trust me on this stack jack point point And everybody
Speaker 3: had that moment like he playing point. But it's like,
Speaker 3: whatever you see, let's just try it because dog just
Speaker 3: time out and he ain't going just unless he sees
Speaker 3: something like that. And I think he built a great
Speaker 3: relationship with everybody on the team to trust him in
Speaker 3: those in those moments, and then he earned more trust
Speaker 3: from us by like in certain moments even like like
Speaker 3: he would be like on some ship where he'd be like, yeah.
Speaker 1: I ain't got nothing for y'all.
Speaker 3: I called that because y'all need to y'all need to
Speaker 3: catch y'all breath and get y'all bearings together.
Speaker 1: But I don't have a play for y'all. Figure it out.
Speaker 3: Go play ball.
Speaker 1: Can y'all remember that we're playing ball now? All right? Cool?
Speaker 3: Go play ball? And it's like that's all we needed
Speaker 3: It's like, now we don't have a play to think about.
Speaker 3: We're not trying to just hoop play the motion for
Speaker 3: out one end and just who we know how to play.
Speaker 3: We know actions, keep keep people in actions, keep changing
Speaker 3: the sides of the floor, and we would get in
Speaker 3: the groove. So it was like, I think Tyleru is
Speaker 3: like one of the you know what I'm saying, one
Speaker 3: of those coaches that you get around and you you
Speaker 3: appreciate even more afterwards because it's like.
Speaker 1: Damn, bro, he not like that. Yeah, I realized that, and.
Speaker 3: I dealt with like five different styles. So it was like,
Speaker 3: like the fish fish is a different ball. He don't
Speaker 3: want you overly like feeling like that. Like he likes
Speaker 3: a structure. He was in that triangle formation I'm saying,
Speaker 3: and then he had to stick to that principal because
Speaker 3: that's what he was introducing.
Speaker 1: But it was like that was a structure.
Speaker 3: And though I figured it out, I'm like, bro, everybody
Speaker 3: had a different Bob. That's why I was like, man,
Speaker 3: I wish I would have just had one coach.
Speaker 2: People don't realize of what you don't realize. Because the
Speaker 2: Mark was talking to the Marcus Marcus had like seven coaches.
Speaker 1: In eight years. It's great, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Just when I figured this out, this motherfucker so.
Speaker 3: And the next motherfucker don't they don't. They don't see
Speaker 3: you as the other thing. They be like, no, I
Speaker 3: like you like this.
Speaker 2: Touch a little more on Kyrie and just him as
Speaker 2: a player, him as a person. And they heard you
Speaker 2: guys used to have some epic one on one games.
Speaker 2: Oh man, you just signed a new five year shoot
Speaker 2: deal too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah god one. One of my one of
Speaker 1: my better friends of the.
Speaker 3: Me and Kyle sat down next to each other during
Speaker 3: the mvp A meeting because I had like one version
Speaker 3: of Kyrie in my head, like you what to do
Speaker 3: jerors Like, I just I don't know. I damn there
Speaker 3: to the point where I knew I thought I knew
Speaker 3: how he would sound like, I damn near felt like
Speaker 3: I know what he sounds like. It's gonna be more
Speaker 3: like preppy and like he's gonna sound like he wearing
Speaker 3: a polo shirt.
Speaker 1: Like That's how I felt, and like I sat down with.
Speaker 3: Him, I was like, oh dude, it is super like
Speaker 3: regular and chill like and he's like totally here to
Speaker 3: have fun, like he's a young guy, like want to
Speaker 3: have fun. And we talked for a while during the
Speaker 3: meeting and then, uh, David West had this uh that
Speaker 3: moment during that mvp A meeting when he stood up
Speaker 3: and was slamming his hands fist saying, when are we
Speaker 3: gonna talk about group economics?
Speaker 1: Y'all?
Speaker 3: Remember that, y'all wouldn't y'all would.
Speaker 1: Make never been to one meeting because don't even.
Speaker 3: Shut out a yeah almost, but yeah, we was in
Speaker 3: the meetings that he's standing up talking about group economics.
Speaker 3: And back then I had no I had no clue
Speaker 3: what he was talking about, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But me and Cole both was intrigued that he meant
Speaker 3: this shit, so we knew it meant something, but we
Speaker 3: know what, you know what I'm saying, Like we just
Speaker 3: wasn't in tune yet, but me and him was like
Speaker 3: the only ones in the room that sided lit up
Speaker 3: and was like having this long conversation about and everybody
Speaker 3: like that became our bond, like trying to figure out
Speaker 3: this group economics thing.
Speaker 1: And you know now, you know you.
Speaker 3: Fast forward and think about it now and think about
Speaker 3: all the stuff that Kyrie's doing all the stuff I'm
Speaker 3: doing and all the things we're all doing on separate planes.
Speaker 3: And now if we can stick to the plan and
Speaker 3: remember to come back together and put our money together
Speaker 3: to do certain stuff to keep the power with us,
Speaker 3: that's the group economics that David West was talking about.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So he sparked a light.
Speaker 1: You feel me.
Speaker 3: But when when I think of Kyrie, I think of
Speaker 3: stuff like that. Like people all the time got this
Speaker 3: thing where they like want to put Kyrie in this
Speaker 3: category of like I don't know, I don't know why
Speaker 3: they like. I think he might handle the ball so
Speaker 3: well that people want something to laugh.
Speaker 1: At him about type shit.
Speaker 4: Anytime you think for yourself, it's gonna be a problem
Speaker 4: some people because more people are followers than leaders.
Speaker 1: So you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And that's the thing that people don't understand. It's not
Speaker 4: rocket science. Kyrie is the leader. He thinks for hisself.
Speaker 4: You know, he sees outside the box. And when you
Speaker 4: like that, a lot of people are followers. They don't
Speaker 4: say they'll never understand somebody thinking for himself and going
Speaker 4: outside the box and trying to lead.
Speaker 1: That's what he always deals with.
Speaker 3: Real talk because they be like, they'll do that, and
Speaker 3: I'll be like, bro, y'all, what y'all don't get to
Speaker 3: see is like him explain to you that he grew
Speaker 3: up playing on a rim that was missing pieces on
Speaker 3: the backboard. So that's how he learned those weird angles
Speaker 3: to twist the ball off of because his backboard missing
Speaker 3: piece is missing. That's crazy. So picture going up to
Speaker 3: the to the rim this way and you have no
Speaker 3: backboard to finish now if somebody's on your arm.
Speaker 1: So he learned how to look forward spinning to where it.
Speaker 3: Could hit the left side and go in on the
Speaker 3: right like, because he don't have a backboard to put
Speaker 3: it on the other side.
Speaker 1: So that's what you have.
Speaker 3: I'm like, dog, that's insane. And then I watched him
Speaker 3: before the warm ups and every day we all do
Speaker 3: all our ship and everybody shit looks similar. Kyrie has
Speaker 3: this thing where he starts and he just sort of
Speaker 3: doing weird finishes, but it's every day. It's like, now
Speaker 3: you get into a game and you trust him, trust
Speaker 3: everything he got going on because he do that every day.
Speaker 3: That's how That's how I trusted mellowa wonder why I
Speaker 3: trusted Mellow to shoot all. I used to be mad too.
Speaker 3: Was sure they used to shoot over doubles and ship.
Speaker 3: But then if you come in the summer and you
Speaker 3: work out with them that nigga practice, it's a double
Speaker 3: and you shoot over the double. Like bro, I knew
Speaker 3: they was gonna double. I figured that out. Still shooting
Speaker 3: that off the glass. Favorite Kobe story, Favorite Kobe story.
Speaker 3: I mean the good game one was. Uh, that was
Speaker 3: just mind blowing for me, Like to have somebody just
Speaker 3: tell me, like, all right, I'll let you, I'll let
Speaker 3: you have a good time today. But now I'm gonna
Speaker 3: like for those who missed it, yeah, oh for those
Speaker 3: who missed it, Uh yeah, it was in the garden,
Speaker 3: I got the guard code.
Speaker 1: I was doing my thing, you know.
Speaker 3: I had a couple of steals, a lot of deflections.
Speaker 3: I was like cutting his moves off because I studied them.
Speaker 3: Like I felt good about my situation, like my whole
Speaker 3: time situation.
Speaker 1: This is all an in game thought too, Like so far,
Speaker 1: so far played this good about my situation.
Speaker 3: I'm like, but like you know when you first get
Speaker 3: to lead and you got like a different like geek
Speaker 3: to you, dog like. I was like, wait till I
Speaker 3: get to talk to my brother about how I guarded
Speaker 3: this nigga, Like I told him I could. I could
Speaker 3: do it, Like I could guard Kobe, I could guard
Speaker 3: mic I could do it. I got this well. We
Speaker 3: walked out to the third quarters and I'm walking and
Speaker 3: Cole right there and I think I was getting like
Speaker 3: maybe I was fixing my sock or something, but I
Speaker 3: bent down. Cole came up next to me and patted
Speaker 3: me on the leg. Yeah, a great game fourth quarter
Speaker 3: you're talking about? Like, what do you mean I had
Speaker 3: a good game? Like, Bro, that's the most disrespectful shit.
Speaker 3: It's twelve minutes left, Like what the fuck are you
Speaker 3: talking about? I'm going to have a great I'm finna
Speaker 3: have an even better game after this twelve minutes the
Speaker 3: fuck you? Like, I was really confused, And after that
Speaker 3: he just stopped talking to me. It was like I
Speaker 3: didn't exist, like none of us did. He went to
Speaker 3: the matrix, but it was like scary, Like I never
Speaker 3: I hate to say scary because it makes me sound
Speaker 3: like I'm like some timid pump.
Speaker 1: But y'all know what I'm talking about. You seen it.
Speaker 1: I looked that man in the eyes and realized, like
Speaker 1: he don't see me. Something is different. Yeah, he just
Speaker 1: clocked out. She's like, he's not. I'm not.
Speaker 3: It don't matter what I'm doing out here, Like I'm
Speaker 3: just a cone, you know what I'm saying, Like, and
Speaker 3: my teammates are cones. He was going through, he went
Speaker 3: through the double, split it. This was blue me, Gee,
Speaker 3: picture you cut.
Speaker 1: A move off.
Speaker 3: He shot, faked it, showed it, split the double, threw
Speaker 3: that bitch off the glass, and then kicked it to
Speaker 3: the corner and pol Gasol hit a jump shot.
Speaker 1: Bro, And I was I remember being in the game.
Speaker 3: Like like, gee, he did I Did I piss him?
Speaker 1: I'm like, did I do something? Like? This is my fault?
Speaker 1: Like then Tony looking at me, he like my like.
Speaker 3: See you see this ship? Like this man is spinning.
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, he had a pivot. He had to pivot.
Speaker 3: I'm like, and then he stepped through on it. I'm like,
Speaker 3: but I'm like that's legal. But I'm like, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. You a guard and you just did
Speaker 3: that the pinch post. I'm like, bro, what is he
Speaker 3: on right now? And I'm looking around and minds just
Speaker 3: looking like it's regular, mellow, just jogging down.
Speaker 1: I'm like, nigga, this ain't re looking at me like something.
Speaker 3: It's cool, just just keeping I'm like, bro, he's not
Speaker 3: supposed to be He's.
Speaker 1: Not supposed to be able to do none of that.
Speaker 3: Bro, Like he shot fake shot, fake burying it from
Speaker 3: twenty eight feet and he just was I just remember
Speaker 3: looking in his eyes, like, bro, he not, he don't
Speaker 3: see me, you know what I'm saying, Like it's weird
Speaker 3: to like look somebody in the eye, like you feel
Speaker 3: like you look somebody in the eyes, Like, bro, you
Speaker 3: gonna know me now? Like, yeah, you gonna know me now?
Speaker 3: Like well, I could I could feel what's going on.
Speaker 3: I remember looking at him like, yo, you think I'm nothing?
Speaker 3: Like seriously, like you really don't? Like for three quarters?
Speaker 3: Did you think I was something for three quarters? Like
Speaker 3: That's how I.
Speaker 1: Felt about that whole Kobe ordeal. Bro.
Speaker 3: My favorite picture, uh well, one of my favorite pictures
Speaker 3: ever from being in the league is that picture of
Speaker 3: Kobe in a triple threat and I'm down in the
Speaker 3: position I'm like face to face with this nigga, and
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get a reaction and you could literally
Speaker 3: see his eyes glazed over because he's just counting. Whoever's like,
Speaker 3: you gotta cleanse. No, you gotta cleanse. And I'm gonna
Speaker 3: have to deal with him at therim. You gotta cleanse. Tho.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you a quick story.
Speaker 2: So we was on the way to Spain one time
Speaker 2: when I was playing with him and it was no
Speaker 2: one else was up every everyone had their families. He
Speaker 2: was over there and he had his headphones on and
Speaker 2: he had his light on, and I thought he was
Speaker 2: over there rapping. So I'm over there. I'm just on
Speaker 2: the team. I'm gonna go over there talk shit, fuck
Speaker 2: with him. Dude had like thirty or forty little courts
Speaker 2: drawn up and he was doing just that. He's like,
Speaker 2: I'm going to see where you guys are at when
Speaker 2: the defense guard me, because I never look at the
Speaker 2: first person. I'm looking at the second and third in
Speaker 2: the help side defender. So it's funny you said that,
Speaker 2: because he's like, I never look at the person guarding me.
Speaker 2: I'm never worried about the person guards mind, it's the
Speaker 2: second third in the help side. It's gonna come. And
Speaker 2: it's funny you said that because he literally told me
Speaker 2: that ship because he had a bunch of little court scribble.
Speaker 2: This is where you're gonna be open. This where L's
Speaker 2: gonna be open. This where fish gonna be o. This
Speaker 2: where Steve's gonna be open. I'm like this where Pal's
Speaker 2: gonna be open. This is where Big Drew's gonna.
Speaker 1: Get It's like some computer shot around. How you even
Speaker 1: draw that many courts?
Speaker 3: Why are you drawing courts?
Speaker 1: Bro with you?
Speaker 3: Oh so he has drawing courts on the play man.
Speaker 3: But that's I remember that though, Like he will look
Speaker 3: you in your eye. I got a whole picture what
Speaker 3: that man is looking me in the eye and you
Speaker 3: could tell he cannot you can't see me, can't see me?
Speaker 2: Translistening a little bit music and basketball both you guys,
Speaker 2: some have off the court passions and music. We just
Speaker 2: had a crazy cipher the other day at the NBA
Speaker 2: NBA post up, shout out the team for that. You
Speaker 2: bones highlands uh and and and Zoe Stack said he
Speaker 2: should have been there because he would have gone down.
Speaker 2: But where's your passing for music come from?
Speaker 1: Uh? I can't draw? So this is the asshold show.
Speaker 3: That's my that's literally why I start playing with words
Speaker 3: because I couldn't draw like my mama could draw. My
Speaker 3: my brother could really draw like they can draw, like
Speaker 3: like beautiful paintings like my brother like without the education
Speaker 3: of art, could naturally just do stuff like my cousins
Speaker 3: could do stuff. My granddad was an artist. So it's
Speaker 3: like I was so like blue, like why can't I draw?
Speaker 3: Like I sucked? I can't draw, yeah, like together, so
Speaker 3: I start paying pictures with words.
Speaker 1: That was my thing, Like I can't.
Speaker 3: I could tell you exactly, I could tell you how
Speaker 3: something look. I could describe some ship that really don't
Speaker 3: look that good.
Speaker 1: But after I say, you man, I'm gonna pull up.
Speaker 1: That's the same way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but everything I say is really there is just
Speaker 3: it don't look as nice as it sounded.
Speaker 1: And I realized I could do that with words.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, all right, I'm gonna rock with that
Speaker 3: because I ain't got a shout drawing shit, I ain't
Speaker 3: gonna lie.
Speaker 4: So I commend you, bro, because you know, it's a
Speaker 4: lot of us that love music and that that take
Speaker 4: time to do it. But a lot of people don't
Speaker 4: put their music out because they're not as confident and
Speaker 4: they sold programmed to hear what people saying, are you
Speaker 4: just doing it because you do this? Because you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I love the fact and I got
Speaker 4: to give you a posercs. Love the fact that you
Speaker 4: stuck with it and you actually put your music out, bro,
Speaker 4: because a lot of athletes like me that do it.
Speaker 3: We need guys like y'all to keep putting musical talk.
Speaker 3: But I meaned y'all to put like y'all be having
Speaker 3: niggas on game too. When it's like you drop, we
Speaker 3: talk about it all the time. I'm like, he he
Speaker 3: liked he dropping it, like he dropping it like lou Will.
Speaker 1: He's gonna drop it with visuals, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, he got the ship with me coming out.
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, y'all as is really doing. They got the.
Speaker 3: Guys in the video and a thing like really shit
Speaker 3: if we was gonna tip to him, he was nervous.
Speaker 1: Ship. He just pulled the week. He good. Were good
Speaker 1: like waiting on that bar oatmeal that bar.
Speaker 3: Oh, they get you a bowl man. Everybody got songs,
Speaker 3: get a bowl man.
Speaker 1: This bar overal come out real boom got so we
Speaker 1: got some songs rap to it is.
Speaker 3: That is half the battle, though, It's just being able
Speaker 3: to put the music out and being able to put
Speaker 3: it out consistently enough to where your fan base and
Speaker 3: your audience can actually support you because they know music
Speaker 3: is coming and this ain't gonna be like every once
Speaker 3: in a while, like oh, an NBA player made a
Speaker 3: song like nah, it gotta be like yo, he releasing
Speaker 3: ship like and we could walk with him.
Speaker 1: There's a story happening. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be some people that's gonna jam your shit,
Speaker 4: that's gonna really fuck with it.
Speaker 2: Give me your four NBA rapper, Mount Rushmore current present,
Speaker 2: past current president, the same thing pastor present.
Speaker 1: It was for them, right yep, low key, It's gonna
Speaker 1: be me, Dame.
Speaker 3: Stack and Lou because I feel like and the and
Speaker 3: the one. I'm gonna if I take myself out, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna put Myles Bridges. But to me, everybody that put
Speaker 3: their ship out get a response one and then put
Speaker 3: ship out where people don't have to Like if you
Speaker 3: could put a song out and people jammy and they
Speaker 3: don't have to explain that.
Speaker 1: You who, Yeah, that's that's different you're right, bro, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm.
Speaker 3: Saying, Like Dame when Dame went on.
Speaker 1: That Una sway yep mas Like, don't get wrong.
Speaker 3: People that knew he who, Yeah, they gonna be like
Speaker 3: man nba nigga just went crazy. But there was real
Speaker 3: life people just saying like, who's that rapper?
Speaker 1: Right period? Who's that rapper? That rapper? Dude, It's like,
Speaker 1: you don't.
Speaker 3: Know, that's Damian Lillard, Damien, that's Damian Lillard. That's not
Speaker 3: Dame Dollar, that's Damian Lillard. Put fifty in your ass,
Speaker 3: That's that's him.
Speaker 2: Who are some of the people you looked at inspirational.
Speaker 1: Wise for music?
Speaker 3: M hmmm uh Andre three K you got a lot
Speaker 3: of him in your flow too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a He taught me voice inflection.
Speaker 3: Him and Silo When I listen to them, they're very
Speaker 3: big on diiction and how they how they delivering certain words.
Speaker 3: Like I always liked how Andre could take us a
Speaker 3: word that it's like that word is not pronounced like that,
Speaker 3: but that was cool as fuck and it made it
Speaker 3: rhyme the next thing. So it's cool now I could
Speaker 3: say that word like that and people know what is
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I always felt like if
Speaker 3: Andre and method Man had a little brother, it be me. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Like I always felt like that, like that that would
Speaker 3: have been my two big brothers in like a hip
Speaker 3: hop household, so to speak. But it was like that's
Speaker 3: who I felt like. Methi Man was like the coolest
Speaker 3: thing Walker. I'm like, bro, everything dude, dude is cool.
Speaker 3: He's solid, and he ain't finna do no bullshit. I
Speaker 3: ain't gonna read about this nigga, no media, ain't no
Speaker 3: dumb shit gonna happen. Ain't nobody finna play with him,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And he's finna give me
Speaker 3: a good flow every time. He's gonna give me a
Speaker 3: story every time. And he's never gonna do the weird
Speaker 3: shit to me. I'm not gonna get an album of
Speaker 3: weird shit. He's never gonna do that. He's gonna give
Speaker 3: me my camouflage split smoking sounding song like that's what
Speaker 3: I want.
Speaker 1: I don't want the new shit. I don't want you
Speaker 1: change or nothing, and he don't do that.
Speaker 3: So I always felt like them too, and like the
Speaker 3: influence of like a c LO and like a fifty
Speaker 3: cent really fifty cent m Andem where they I feel
Speaker 3: like they started to like sing how j Coby like
Speaker 3: singing but not singing, Like it's like, ah, I know
Speaker 3: I can't sing, but we gonna sing it like this
Speaker 3: guys because they like they like the first ones to
Speaker 3: tap into the fact that we can't sing.
Speaker 1: And the crowd knows it and.
Speaker 3: They ask can't sing, so they gonna they can actually
Speaker 3: sing along with my bad singing.
Speaker 1: We all gonna sound crazy terrible together.
Speaker 3: So it's like it's like the jay Z but man,
Speaker 3: it's like we all love to do that because we
Speaker 3: all can't sing, you know what I'm saying. So it's
Speaker 3: like when they figured that out, I just took. I
Speaker 3: take little stuff like that. I always take what can
Speaker 3: I do that? That made me appreciate that music, And
Speaker 3: I felt like the more voice inflections, the more times
Speaker 3: are artists.
Speaker 1: Can make you.
Speaker 3: Say someone feels like you in that world with them,
Speaker 3: The more you could do that, the better it is
Speaker 3: for the music. So them like like my grabs, I
Speaker 3: never really grabbed artists for other reason, like you got
Speaker 3: a good story and then you do something that's like intriguing,
Speaker 3: and I feel like I have to go to you
Speaker 3: for that, then I'm gonna stick with you as hard
Speaker 3: like I'm ana fuck with you.
Speaker 1: Big five ain't been on the podcast, yep, but go ahead.
Speaker 2: Man the ability real quick before we get to that,
Speaker 2: the ability to balance fatherhood with a public relationship, with
Speaker 2: a wife who's an entertainer, with you who are multifaceted,
Speaker 2: former professional athlete, how do you juggle and manage all.
Speaker 1: That well's east of him? I'm gonna answer that question, fuckers.
Speaker 4: She a real one I've been knowing since since the
Speaker 4: since of be the center of the concert.
Speaker 1: Everybody trying to higher.
Speaker 4: Let her get She'll see me way over the bro,
Speaker 4: That's just how she is.
Speaker 1: She too real.
Speaker 4: So when you got a real one on each side, everybody,
Speaker 4: you ain't got no choice down since is the realest down.
Speaker 1: It's a uh you know what's crazy?
Speaker 3: That shit really be hard to balance, Like we really
Speaker 3: don't be like he said, like she just a real
Speaker 3: nigga about it. Like sometimes that shit is all bad, bro.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it feel like sometimes it's just our schedules don't work.
Speaker 3: I might not see this lady for a month, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like sometimes it maybe three months.
Speaker 3: If she got a movie, I got a movie or
Speaker 3: a show to do whatever. It's just the shit be hard.
Speaker 3: Like but I feel like, you know, like a lot
Speaker 3: of other couples and you know, people that go out
Speaker 3: on that limb to say we're gonna do this marriage
Speaker 3: thing and we're gonna bring these kids into the world.
Speaker 3: It's like, Bro, you signed up for it to go
Speaker 3: fucking terrible, good and bad. Like literally your vows, Like
Speaker 3: when this shit get terrible, is you gonna slide or no,
Speaker 3: cause it's finna get terrible, Like it's guaranteed.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like you once you live life for long enough, it's
Speaker 3: like you know at some point this shit gonna make
Speaker 3: a left and go awful with you. But like, like
Speaker 3: even with basketball, like I've never seen nothing in basketball
Speaker 3: be good unless I went through this life. It's like,
Speaker 3: no commitment that we have in life is good the
Speaker 3: whole time. No, you're gonna get a dump. They're gonna
Speaker 3: dump ship on you. Can you now stand in front
Speaker 3: of everybody with Dodo on you and be like, Yep,
Speaker 3: we're finna try again.
Speaker 1: I'm finna do it again. Wipe this sh off. I
Speaker 1: got another idea. I'm definitely finna take a bath. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get it from in between my neck.
Speaker 3: Like we gotta get the ship off us, but you
Speaker 3: gotta continue to march. And it's like I feel like
Speaker 3: we that's that's the only way, Like you gotta just
Speaker 3: give yourself grace and knowing.
Speaker 1: Like I got room, I gotta grow. She got room,
Speaker 1: she gotta grow.
Speaker 3: It's time that we might not be on the same
Speaker 3: but it's like, as long as we got the same mission,
Speaker 3: then we locked in. You see what I'm saying, what's
Speaker 3: that ship? If you locked in, ain't no switching up. Bro,
Speaker 3: got it gotta feel like that though you feel I'm
Speaker 3: saying like, if you feel like your other side of
Speaker 3: slide on, you'll be sick.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I got an opportunity.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I was the first guest to
Speaker 2: one of your first guests podcast a monks Men, Bro that.
Speaker 3: Was one of the highest rating, one of the highest rate.
Speaker 1: Of episodes of My Dog. So the trips that I
Speaker 1: won't say.
Speaker 4: If you heard me, it's still if you heard me,
Speaker 4: they still it's still.
Speaker 1: Dripple. We're gonna give you a lot of dribble on
Speaker 1: our podcast.
Speaker 2: Can I do the first to smoke on that while
Speaker 2: in Okay, I don't even where you're at now, I
Speaker 2: can't speak on that.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, you know what. We're gonna work on it
Speaker 1: for next next week.
Speaker 4: You got to making exceptions for us like they do Snoop. Now,
Speaker 4: I'm the basketball versus of Snoop.
Speaker 3: They got something making exceptions for five.
Speaker 1: Don't be saying that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I'm coming in the door sparked up. I'm
Speaker 4: smelling like it, feeling like it, looking like it. If
Speaker 4: still can That's what I'll be saying. They It's like,
Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, I've seen Snoop like up anywhere period.
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, it's no way that that man is
Speaker 3: allowed to do that because we know his name is
Speaker 3: Snoop Dog.
Speaker 1: Like, I'm like, it could be done.
Speaker 3: Yeah today put it associated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm there with it. The rest of a couple
Speaker 1: of times the pack you up, but.
Speaker 2: Talk to us about your podcast Amongst Men. The idea
Speaker 2: came from and obviously you co host that with your brother.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Imano Munk's Men kind of happened because uh, you know,
Speaker 3: i I've done you know, pretty cool in the podcast,
Speaker 3: like just I think as an athlete, we don't get
Speaker 3: to open up a lot, and I was early on
Speaker 3: I opened up a couple of times on camera and
Speaker 3: people gravitated toward it. So that demand led to them
Speaker 3: saying they wanted me to do a podcast.
Speaker 1: I originally didn't feel comfortable in.
Speaker 3: Saying like, uh, yeah, I'm gonna sit down with somebody, like, uh,
Speaker 3: what's the buddy? They used to add that show where
Speaker 3: he usually talking crazy to people with like crazy wild hair,
Speaker 3: howis Stern?
Speaker 1: I used to be like thinking like I don't want
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 3: How it's thuned. I don't think I can hold down
Speaker 3: a talk show that long.
Speaker 1: And Corner one, yeah, you can't hold no corner show
Speaker 1: down ship.
Speaker 3: But it was just like I don't think I could
Speaker 3: sit down like how you see it, Like I won't
Speaker 3: talk to people sometimes. I just like I think that
Speaker 3: because we have a job where sometimes you have to
Speaker 3: be an entertainer, so to speak. Like the moment I
Speaker 3: get to shut that down, I totally love to go
Speaker 3: back to being a kid, and yeah, I don't have
Speaker 3: to talk to y'all. It's like I don't exist today
Speaker 3: like before I was just tall, y'all didn't bother me,
Speaker 3: So I go back to that in my mind.
Speaker 1: Love, that's my happy place.
Speaker 3: But I think that hold on, I just forgot what
Speaker 3: I was all the podcast, bro'all.
Speaker 1: That you just went to his happy place real quick.
Speaker 3: When I when I got the chance to do the podcast,
Speaker 3: it was like, you know, I usually turn myself off
Speaker 3: as far as like not letting people know all the
Speaker 3: way my mental but I was like, the only way
Speaker 3: for me to have like a clean cut way to
Speaker 3: give it to y'all real would be to have it
Speaker 3: with my brother because it's like when you with your brothers,
Speaker 3: like when you with your father and y'all have a
Speaker 3: couple of drinks and y'all cookouts. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: y'all just sitting down. It's like, bro, that's the best
Speaker 3: basketball conversation.
Speaker 4: This conversation period about life memories, all kind of shit
Speaker 4: without cameras.
Speaker 3: You sit down with them and you just start talking
Speaker 3: and it's like it's like you grow up. It's like
Speaker 3: growing up in two hours, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's what I felt like. And I was like, bro,
Speaker 3: if I could get originally, we was gonna try and
Speaker 3: like reveal my old kitchen.
Speaker 1: For your self, you feel me like we was trying
Speaker 1: to do that.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, let's build my old kitchen.
Speaker 3: I need like the thing come down with the little
Speaker 3: TV that we had a thing like that, Like I
Speaker 3: love key wanted to put like the cat little box
Speaker 3: back there, like really fuck it up, like make you
Speaker 3: feel like how it used to be, because it's like
Speaker 3: some of these conversations that you like driving past somebody
Speaker 3: and putting them on my hip, Like bro, that was
Speaker 3: like a long conversation in the kitchen, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like my dad really telling me how to
Speaker 3: get past people and then put them on the hip
Speaker 3: and then making my brother stand up, Like bro, these
Speaker 3: are the conversations that we had. So I'm like, bro,
Speaker 3: if I could have them there, a podcast will be lit.
Speaker 3: Out in my mind, I'm like, that'll be lit. My
Speaker 3: dad walking past this, chiming in here and there, me
Speaker 3: and my brother just talking shit like that'll be lit.
Speaker 3: I never even in my thoughts said like, yeah, we're
Speaker 3: gonna bring guests and do this.
Speaker 1: I didn't think that through.
Speaker 3: I'm like, who would want to come talk to I
Speaker 3: thought fans would just want to see me and my
Speaker 3: brother argue about basketball. They truth like I was gonna
Speaker 3: like preview games that was gonna come and we was
Speaker 3: gonna put up predictions and like talk shit to each
Speaker 3: other really, but that would probably turn it in a fight.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad we didn't do that.
Speaker 3: But as we start doing it with Uninterrupted, that shit
Speaker 3: has been growing.
Speaker 1: Bro. We on the second season.
Speaker 3: We just wrapped the second season up, about to head
Speaker 3: into a third season. But we talked fatherhood, we talk basketball,
Speaker 3: we talk life. You know what I'm saying. You've come
Speaker 3: on there, like when you came did your episode, Like
Speaker 3: some of the jewels that you drop for players that
Speaker 3: are looking to build outside of just.
Speaker 1: Being a player.
Speaker 3: There's so many of us that really take that identity
Speaker 3: as like what you said, Jack, when they give you
Speaker 3: the man you were supposed to hoop, It's like, Bro,
Speaker 3: you think that man ain't supposed to learn how to
Speaker 3: use his money than anything else what you're supposed to
Speaker 3: be hooping. So you think that he just go to
Speaker 3: get money in there, he's just gonna keep it in
Speaker 3: the bank forever, like and never spend it.
Speaker 1: You don't think he want to have a excuse me,
Speaker 1: have a restaurant.
Speaker 3: He couldn't have been a kid in one of the
Speaker 3: restaurants and thought that the money from basketball could get
Speaker 3: him a restaurant. It's not okay, But everybody be cool
Speaker 3: with getting their job, and as soon as they get
Speaker 3: their job, they set up ten other businesses and they
Speaker 3: do it great for themselves and all this other shit.
Speaker 3: It's like, bro, y'all all go do it. But it's
Speaker 3: like y'all mad at us for wanting to play basketball.
Speaker 3: Y'all could have hooped too, motherfucker go hoop shit. Y'all
Speaker 3: still gonna take your tie off after yr. I see
Speaker 3: everybody that work on Wall Street, whether they do it,
Speaker 3: y'all take y'all tie, Loosen that shit up, and come
Speaker 3: to the game, y'all. If we don't have a game,
Speaker 3: y'all playing at the gym together, and y'all play ball
Speaker 3: for free. Just got paid differ, but we're gonna all
Speaker 3: go out there and do that. So I just like,
Speaker 3: I love bringing guests on now and being able to
Speaker 3: pick their brain one because these conversations happen and we
Speaker 3: sometimes don't appreciate it all the way. We just sort
Speaker 3: of have the conversations, right, But every once in a while,
Speaker 3: I go through my DMS and people be like, yo, man,
Speaker 3: that conversation y'all had when y'all touched on this topic.
Speaker 3: I was going through that right then, right there, and
Speaker 3: I needed that, and y'all casually talked about it, but
Speaker 3: y'all opened up, y'all spit it raw like, and they
Speaker 3: take shit from us because it's like y'all not on here,
Speaker 3: Like I could tell y'all not acting like somebody else.
Speaker 3: This conversation is so long.
Speaker 1: Shump got through it. I could do it. If go
Speaker 1: through what I could do it.
Speaker 3: They feel like that, like bro, I listened to them
Speaker 3: for an hour and I could hear like their guard
Speaker 3: is down, like they're not vula. It's not Yeah, this
Speaker 3: is not a politically correct conversation, so to speak. When
Speaker 3: you have those things and you you see those responses
Speaker 3: of people saying like, man, I was going through it,
Speaker 3: and y'all talked about mental health today and seeing that
Speaker 3: athlete sor you know, dealing with these type of things,
Speaker 3: and let me know to just hold on to the rope,
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying, like maybe I'm not
Speaker 3: like everybody's going through this, and that's Okay, it's okay
Speaker 3: to go through this for a day like like you
Speaker 3: have these things and having that reinforcement from fans and
Speaker 3: having uh, you know, the people that work behind the
Speaker 3: scenes for the podcast, like them being able to come
Speaker 3: in and just tell you about how the podcast is doing.
Speaker 1: How do you monetize this?
Speaker 3: It's like constantly learning, constantly bringing you new Yeah, so
Speaker 3: it's like to continue to be able to do that
Speaker 3: after playing ball and for people to even give a
Speaker 3: fuck about what we want to talk about. And you know,
Speaker 3: the stories that that we got, it's like to share them.
Speaker 3: It's like what we're gonna do, take them to the grave.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to tell y'all some of this basketball.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Mind a monkst men.
Speaker 2: You can find that at Uninterrupted Platforms Season three coming soon.
Speaker 2: All right, we don't quick hitters, man. We appreciate your
Speaker 2: time today. So first thing to come to mind, let
Speaker 2: us know what album?
Speaker 1: One album? Excuse me on repeat? What would it be?
Speaker 3: College drop God has drop offs?
Speaker 1: I missed that person five dinner guests dead or alive?
Speaker 3: Five dinner Guess that's that's that's better alive? All right?
Speaker 3: I got one that all right, we're just gonna do it.
Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna explain it. I'll just put it. Yeah, alright,
Speaker 3: So at dinner, Mike, uh and I say Mike, because
Speaker 3: when I first came in the league, Mike explained to
Speaker 3: me like that it was okay to eat the red meat.
Speaker 3: But the day before a game because somebody told me, like,
Speaker 3: why you eating steak associates and he was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: steak potatoes, oh het red meat. Like he was like yeah,
Speaker 3: like be sick in ahead, like whatever they tell you
Speaker 3: you need it, do that and then do what you
Speaker 3: gotta do tomorrow. So yeah, Mike, you definitely holler at me.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Come dynergy uh kneel on mm.
Speaker 3: But just that was like, like.
Speaker 1: We get it.
Speaker 3: We respected as well because I had posted that, like
Speaker 3: there was two ladies that I just had posted all
Speaker 3: over my wall. Uh, well, my wife already gonna be there.
Speaker 3: So we're hosting the other five guars. So two more
Speaker 3: the Obamas.
Speaker 1: Oh you say dead a lot though too. Damn damn
Speaker 1: you could have to.
Speaker 3: I'll give you two more, Okay, cool the Obamas, and
Speaker 3: then I really want uh Malcolm X and Muhammad Ali
Speaker 3: at the table too, just because like I feel like
Speaker 3: it'll make the conversation so raw to see Mike and
Speaker 3: Muhammad Ali like start whatever.
Speaker 1: Competitive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I just want to let them go off,
Speaker 3: and just like I just like the dynamic of that
Speaker 3: situation would be crazy.
Speaker 1: And then me and Tiana Bird asked, like you feel
Speaker 1: me like we do?
Speaker 3: We do all the prestige, We probably cut in between
Speaker 3: that and like made it a little you know, more relatable.
Speaker 1: In that thing.
Speaker 3: So it's like, I just feel like that would be
Speaker 3: a beautiful conversation that that stems from that, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying in some ways.
Speaker 1: But man, that's a great question. Dinner guest Bron m
Speaker 1: J Kobe Rankam, Mike Bron.
Speaker 4: You can't go wrong either way. I mean, that's tpping.
Speaker 4: That's on the island. Three shows of movies in rotation.
Speaker 3: Shots next Friday, class Halm Nights Nice. I like, I
Speaker 3: like your picks, Oh Bro, I gonna watch that all
Speaker 3: day though I seen shot To so many times though
Speaker 3: with the quirky, quirky sound.
Speaker 1: By the way, every time I watched Shot that, I
Speaker 1: find a new part me too.
Speaker 3: Why am I just not noticing that that boy cut
Speaker 3: off that shirt and had his stomach bear. I never
Speaker 3: I was like, bro, this man real life cut his
Speaker 3: shirt like that and they kept playing that quirky music
Speaker 3: the whole movie.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love that movie.
Speaker 3: Great movie. Up the shot the great movie.
Speaker 2: Top three best dressed players present day, present day or
Speaker 2: in the past, all time or present day.
Speaker 6: Ay, I kind of started the fashion So yeah, Sean
Speaker 6: and Jordan Clarks honorable mention Swaggy be nice.
Speaker 1: Love that about corner boys and ship.
Speaker 3: Corner Boys for life swagger You know what it is.
Speaker 3: We had our quarterboys conversation boy Quarterboys.
Speaker 1: For life adult. You can see one person on our show,
Speaker 1: who would it be?
Speaker 4: But you have to help us get your answer on
Speaker 4: the show.
Speaker 2: Somebody like that, you know, everybody, people in your household
Speaker 2: or people you play with.
Speaker 3: Yeah, besides the wife. Besides the wife coming on here.
Speaker 3: She definitely needed. I was to say, we need, we
Speaker 3: need tea here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we definitely because we need to get our women
Speaker 4: take He said.
Speaker 3: That's easy though, Okay, that's easy. Yeah, she's gonna have
Speaker 3: to come on here. She just released a sneaker too.
Speaker 4: You got you got one. Make sure you pass that message.
Speaker 4: You passed it. You know that passed that message.
Speaker 3: This is gone like just had to was clean. But yeah,
Speaker 3: you definitely need her on her She got plenty to promote.
Speaker 1: But I say your other dream yes, uh.
Speaker 3: Oh, work for.
Speaker 1: Benz Van ben Van.
Speaker 3: We bumped into help and I can't even I can't even.
Speaker 1: Help you with that because that got his number. You
Speaker 1: got him out here. Let him know. I'm looking for
Speaker 1: him too. I'm looking for him too.
Speaker 3: Oh bro, I'm looking for you.
Speaker 1: He said. Yeah, buddy, the high hand, the high hand.
Speaker 1: It's sort of funny seal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you.
Speaker 1: Get him, Yeah, we're gonna get him for both of us. Man,
Speaker 1: I need it.
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