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Speaker 1: It is now officially open. This is Draft season. Welcome everybody.

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Speaker 1: It's all brought to b by Moody is a proud

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Speaker 1: sponsor of the New York Giants. I am John Schmelke,

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Speaker 1: joined as always by my colleague one draft season from

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Speaker 1: Essentially Sports, the one and only Tony Pauline. Tony, how

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Speaker 1: are you man? Happy New year?

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Speaker 2: Same to you. A little bit of a cold, So

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Speaker 2: whatever you had last year, last couple of shows, you

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Speaker 2: gave to me through the through the wires, you know,

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Speaker 2: but dealing with it. I apologize to anybody watching the show.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise you know, it's full steam ahead to the Senior

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Speaker 2: Shrine Ball, Senior Ball and all the other good stuff

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Speaker 2: that's the lead up to the draft.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the improvement in the technology, Tony, is unbelievable. How

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Speaker 1: how cold viruses can can transfer through zoom. I have

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Speaker 1: to give the folks credit over there, excellent work. So

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Speaker 1: we have a busy show, cover your weight today. We're

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Speaker 1: going to go through what happened last week in the

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Speaker 1: College FOOTBA playoffs. We'll look forward to this weekend in

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Speaker 1: the college football playoffs as well, and then since we

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Speaker 1: have the draft order set, we're gonna go through our

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Speaker 1: top top twelve mock draft. And the reason I picked

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Speaker 1: twelve is because by the time we get to the

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Speaker 1: next week show, we're gonna know who's picking thirteen to

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Speaker 1: twenty four. So that sets up the draft in kind

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Speaker 1: of two halves, one to twelve and twelve to twenty four.

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Speaker 1: So we'll do half of it this week and half

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Speaker 1: of it next week, soney. I think it should be

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Speaker 1: a fun exercise and we'll get into it. I had

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Speaker 1: a lot of trouble doing it, and we'll talk about

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Speaker 1: that too, but it should be a fun couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And with the mock draft, it's ironic now that

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Speaker 2: the order is set at the top. You know, you

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Speaker 2: had your previous mock drafts which were based on you

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Speaker 2: know what the order was at that time. You know,

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Speaker 2: you find out which guys are left out, which guys

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Speaker 2: don't fit, which guys you want to put into certain

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no question about it. And just to note again, folks,

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Speaker 1: mock draft seeds at this time of year, we all

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Speaker 1: do them. They're fun and they serve as a good

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Speaker 1: exercise to figure out kind of who the best players

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Speaker 1: are and where they fit. But team needs are still

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Speaker 1: going to change drastically between now when the draft takes place,

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Speaker 1: with free agency potential trades. We don't know who's going

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Speaker 1: to get franchise tagged, re signed, who head coaches of

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Speaker 1: certain teams are going to be all. All these things

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Speaker 1: are questions, So take everything we do with the grain

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Speaker 1: of salt when it comes to mox. But the point

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Speaker 1: we're doing it is that it's an exercise to kind

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Speaker 1: of see where we are at the top of this

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Speaker 1: draft class and figure out where players are going to go.

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Speaker 1: All right, Tony, We'll get to that a little bit

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Speaker 1: later in the show, but let's start off with round

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Speaker 1: number two, the quarterfinals of the college football playoffs. They

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Speaker 1: took place last weekend around New Year's even New Year's Day,

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Speaker 1: and the big upset was Miami beating Ohio State. And

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Speaker 1: really the bottom line here, Tony, you could take this

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Speaker 1: anyway you want, but Miami dominated up front, whether it

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Speaker 1: cap Miami's offensive line a defensive line. Well done, gentleman.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, go back to our show last week,

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Speaker 2: go back to the article I wrote on Essentially Sports.

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Speaker 2: I thought the Indiana game, when Indiana bea the Ohio

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Speaker 2: mean that the Ohio State offensive line was terrible. The

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Speaker 2: Miami pass rush was incredible, more so than the Indiana

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Speaker 2: and that's what Miami did early on. I mean, it

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Speaker 2: credit to the offensive line of Miami who did a good,

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Speaker 1: All right, So let's come to the defensive side of

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Speaker 1: the ball now for Miami Tony, and it goes back

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Speaker 1: to those two edge rushers we've talked about him. Heck,

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Speaker 1: were just phenomenal in this football game. You cannot block them,

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Speaker 2: I think Ohio State also helped him because Saying was

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Speaker 2: which made the pocket deeper, which makes the jobs for

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Speaker 2: with everything you said, and it was prototypical of what

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Speaker 2: were great. They were omnipresident. They harassed Saying, you know,

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Speaker 2: they made they mad him uncomfortable. He had to move

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Speaker 1: If you watch him.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's a complete player. He's not a great athlete.

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Speaker 2: He's not the athlete of Bane, He's not going to

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Speaker 2: They get him off the line in space, he can

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Speaker 2: It was just a terrific game by both of these guys,

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Speaker 1: And Tony Ohio State could not run the ball in

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Speaker 1: the first half. It was one of the reasons why

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Speaker 1: the second half a little bit with Bo Jackson, but

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Speaker 1: which played right into the hands of that many pass rush.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, And Miami's got a nice little nose tackle

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Speaker 2: right now. We are going to see him at the

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Speaker 2: at the shrine ball. The last name begins with a B.

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Speaker 2: Give me one second here, so her name is scapes me.

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Speaker 2: I did him yesterday. David Blaye, he's he's a transfer,

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Speaker 2: a true zero technique nose tackle type that clogs the

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Speaker 2: he was basically occupying the gaps, occupying the blockers and

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Speaker 2: letting Bain and the Miami the Miami linebackers run to

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Speaker 2: the ball. Mohammed Torre, the former Rutgers player, seventh year

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Speaker 2: senior that's had a lot of problems with injuries. Number

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Speaker 2: one plays linebacker from Miami. He had a terrific game.

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Speaker 2: He's had a terrific season. It's real good NFL prospect,

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Speaker 2: but he's got a lot of medical red flags. You know,

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Speaker 2: Torre had a big game because of the fact that

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Speaker 2: unable to move him off the ball.

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Speaker 1: And then Tony the other part of the defensive pormers

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Speaker 1: performance for Miami. And we always talk about this when

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Speaker 1: teams play Ohio State. Ohio States wide receivers are so good, right.

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith, by the way, another great game. He's going

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Speaker 1: if not the top pick next year, is certainly a

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Speaker 1: And we always talk about the corners going against those guys,

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Speaker 1: and we had talked about Miami cornerback Heyante Scott heading

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Speaker 1: most important play in the game, jumping a screen pass.

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Speaker 1: and runs it for a touchdown. And without that play, man,

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Speaker 1: he probably does not win this football game, Tony. So

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Speaker 1: huge instinctual play from Scott to really help his team

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Speaker 2: Change the game. I mean, right from then and there,

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Speaker 2: Ohio State was playing from way behind. You could sense

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Speaker 2: there was a bit of panic because Ohio State was

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Speaker 2: unable to move the ball, and I mentioned Kianta Scott.

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Speaker 2: Remember he's been a bit nicked up now, he hasn't

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Speaker 2: been fully healthy. Comes from Warburn a real good defensive back,

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Speaker 2: very physical and aggressive. If you watch the way Miami

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Speaker 2: used him this year, they used him almost as a

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Speaker 2: nickelback in his own coverage, he was primarily facing the action.

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Speaker 2: Very few times when I watched Kiante Scott did I

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Speaker 2: And the end result is he's constantly flying up the

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Speaker 2: He's got terrific ball skills facing the action. Did a

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Speaker 2: great job working with cornerbacks over the middle of the field.

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Speaker 2: If he gets into a postseason game, depending on one

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Speaker 2: how far Miami goes into the playoffs, number two healthy

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Speaker 2: he is, It's going to be interesting to watch those

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Speaker 2: one on ones. He was always a good cornerback. He's

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Speaker 2: always well liked in the scouting community. I mean the

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Speaker 2: one on ones where he's matched up in man coverage

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Speaker 2: will be very telling because he's crewing this year that

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Speaker 2: he's an outstanding zone Nicholson cornerback facing the action, good

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Speaker 1: And then finally he's one of the other big unit

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Speaker 1: Learn more at Moody's dot com. Let's go to Indiana Alabama, Tony,

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Speaker 1: and boy, this was just a slacking from start to

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Speaker 2: he could transfer out of Alabama. Tennessee's is a place

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. I would be cautious of

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Speaker 1: sooner rather than later if you're Alabama, all right, other

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Speaker 1: Where you at on Caden Proctor Tony.

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Speaker 2: I thought that, you know, I thought he struggled. I

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Speaker 2: He shows terrific speed. He's been a little bit spotty

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Speaker 2: the receiver position looking the way it is, you still

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Speaker 2: look at a potential late Day two pick with shribbling.

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Speaker 1: And how about Wallace Tony do you think he's a

432
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Speaker 1: Day three eye Day two guy? Where do you think

433
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Speaker 1: he winds up?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think he is a third round prospect

435
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Speaker 2: that's probably gonna end up in the fourth round. I

436
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Speaker 2: think it's gonna test very well when he's on his game.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, I was surprised that a Penn State

438
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Speaker 2: didn't try harder to keep him with drew a lar

439
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Speaker 2: there and he was productive in spots this year. I

440
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Speaker 2: think I think he's gonna end up in the fourth round.

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Speaker 2: I think he's third round talent. I think what's gonna

442
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Speaker 2: happen is he'll test reasonably well and then during combine

443
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Speaker 2: interviews they're gonna ask him what happened, Why wasn't he

444
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Speaker 2: consistently productive in twenty twenty five?

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Speaker 1: And by the way, you should mention too in Trinidad

446
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Speaker 1: Chambells Tony. There's a chance he still goes back to school.

447
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Speaker 1: He's waiting on word from the NCAA as to whether

448
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Speaker 1: or not he is one more year of eligibility. He's

449
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Speaker 1: already told miss that's where he's going to go back to.

450
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Speaker 1: We'll probably know that by the end of the week.

451
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Speaker 1: I think is kind of what the reporting has been.

452
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Speaker 1: I heard not very optimistic last week. This week there

453
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Speaker 1: seems to be a little bit more optimism that he

454
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Speaker 1: might end up getting into the year of eligibility, so

455
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Speaker 1: we'll have to wait and see whether or not he

456
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Speaker 1: actually winds up in the draft or not. And Tony

457
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Speaker 1: just talk. Two wide receivers on All Miss Georgia wide

458
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Speaker 1: receiver announced for the draft, Zacharya Branch. Eight catches, sixty

459
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Speaker 1: seven yards and a touchdown, a couple of punp returns

460
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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 2: What's your outlook for him, smaller guy, slot receiver, gadget player,

462
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Speaker 2: return specialist. I think he could maybe be a Day

463
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Speaker 2: two choice. He's not gonna fit all systems because of

464
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Speaker 2: the lack of size, all that Trinidad Chambliss, but he's

465
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Speaker 2: a bit of a playmaker and he was probably the

466
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Speaker 2: most consistent threat throughout the year for Georgia. You're gonna

467
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Speaker 2: have to line him up in the slot. You're gonna

468
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Speaker 2: have to line him up backed off the line of

469
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Speaker 2: scrimmage to keep him off of press coverage. But he

470
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Speaker 2: brings a lot of different things you can run. You

471
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Speaker 2: can use him on reverses, you can use him as

472
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Speaker 2: obviously as a return specialist, which is going to be

473
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Speaker 2: attract different teams.

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Speaker 1: And then Tony a big man on the Omas defense

475
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Speaker 1: that had he excited.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Xavian Harris, who scouts had highly graded not too

477
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Speaker 2: many highly graded players on the Mississippi defense. Ten tackles,

478
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Speaker 2: one tackle for the loss, one pass breakup. He's six

479
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Speaker 2: foot seven, he's three hundred and forty pounds. He actually

480
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Speaker 2: plays more athletic than he does like a big man.

481
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Speaker 2: He's not an over consistently overpowering defensive tackle, but he's

482
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Speaker 2: got great upside. Scouts created him as a Day two pick.

483
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Speaker 2: I mean, his play is more Day three. But with

484
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Speaker 2: the weakness at the defensive tackle position this year and

485
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Speaker 2: the fact that those guys are so highly sought out,

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Speaker 2: I could see a team really falling in love with

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Speaker 2: his potential and the flashes he's shown, and maybe he

488
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Speaker 2: ends up in the second day of the draft.

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Speaker 1: My sense, Tony, and you could correct me if I'm wrong,

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Speaker 1: because you're obviously way deeper into this than I am.

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Speaker 1: I've only kind of, you know, the top one hundred

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Speaker 1: ish or whatever. I feel like there's actually a decent

493
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Speaker 1: number of those tackles in this year's draft, more than

494
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Speaker 1: you have those kind of smallish three technique pass rusher types.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that's accurate?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're gonna see one at the Senior but

497
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Speaker 2: with Don Orange, the big guy from from Iowa State.

498
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Speaker 2: So there are a lot of zero technique types here

499
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Speaker 2: and those tackle types. I'm looking at my board right now.

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Speaker 2: You know. Christian Miller of Georgia is another one of

501
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Speaker 2: those guys, potentially.

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Speaker 1: Kate McDonald who he talked about right.

503
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Speaker 2: Kaden McDonald though, yeah, I mean he's got nose tackle side,

504
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Speaker 2: but he also plays like a He plays like a bigger,

505
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Speaker 2: like an athletic playmaker. Dante Corleone to the kid from Cincinnati,

506
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Speaker 2: three hundred and thirty pounds, Lee Hunter, who I else

507
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Speaker 2: I just mentioned again. He's athletic, but he's six three

508
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Speaker 2: and a half, three thirty Darryl Jackson, who we will

509
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Speaker 2: see at the Shrine Bowls six five and a half,

510
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Speaker 2: three hundred and thirty eight pounds, and he plays like

511
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Speaker 2: a nose tackle. He's not a playmaker, He's a gap occupier.

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Speaker 1: He nying the brightest minds that turn today's risks into

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Speaker 1: tomorrow's opportunities. Learn more at moodies dot com. And Tony

515
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Speaker 1: we should bring up the fact that one big commit

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Speaker 1: not a lot of them, So I'll just I'll mention

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Speaker 1: one to the Senior Bowl. I think it actually came

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Speaker 1: out today, the day that we're recording this. Garrettnusmeyer, a

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Speaker 1: quarterback that we talked a lot about last year as

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Speaker 1: a potential first round pick if he came out season

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Speaker 1: at nd who Well for him this year it's been

522
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Speaker 1: up and down. He's been banged up a lot, but

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Speaker 1: he'll be at the Senior Bowl. So Drew Fabian at

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Speaker 1: you again. If you guys haven't checked it out, he

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Speaker 1: was on with us about four weeks ago. Now I'll

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Speaker 1: go find it on your you know, John's YouTube channel,

527
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Speaker 1: favorite podcast platform, whatever. He's done a great job getting

528
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Speaker 1: a lot of talented players at that game this year.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be very exciting. I haven't booked the

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Speaker 1: tickets yet. They should be booked this week. Credentials are

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Speaker 1: in process. Uh, very excited to see all these great

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Speaker 1: players down and not only Shrine Ball but then the

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl directly afterwards.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they finally approved my credential Senior Bowl after I

535
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Speaker 2: messed up. But Justmeyer there, I mean, he was injured.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of questions about his arm strength, you know,

537
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Speaker 2: what's the ball speed like when he's making throws on

538
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Speaker 2: the move. It's going to be interesting in those five

539
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Speaker 2: on fives and seven on sevens because he doesn't always

540
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Speaker 2: make the right decision oftentimes the balls are you know,

541
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Speaker 2: he's throwing forcing the ball in the coverage. So good

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Speaker 2: for him for showing up for the to the senior ball.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a lot on the line for him.

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Speaker 2: If he does well, it's going to be a good

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Speaker 2: situation for him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, obvious if you talked to a lot of these

547
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Speaker 1: players already into our view. But really quickly, let's look ahead,

548
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Speaker 1: Tony Uh. We have the semi finals coming up in

549
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Speaker 1: the college football playoffs. Let's talk about it. Oregon Indiana.

550
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Speaker 1: These two teams played earlier in the year in a

551
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: very close game that was highly contested. That was fun.

552
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Speaker 1: What are some of the big matchups you'll be keeping

553
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Speaker 1: an eye on in this game?

554
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Speaker 2: Talked about Pat Coogan before watch his matchup against the

555
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Speaker 2: Mario Washington, the quick, explosive defensive tackle from Oregon who

556
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Speaker 2: projects as a first round pick. That's going to be

557
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Speaker 2: something to keep an eye on. We've talked about ken

558
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Speaker 2: ys A Deep, the athletic tight end who shows flashes

559
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Speaker 2: of brilliance, yet the overall production is in there. Going

560
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Speaker 2: up against Aiden Fisher, the linebacker from Indiana. Three down player,

561
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Speaker 2: doesn't have the same size, but he's athletic, he's intense,

562
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Speaker 2: he's incredibly instinctive. That's gonna be one to keep an

563
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Speaker 2: eye on. And then you mentioned Isaiah World. Well, you

564
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 2: know that Indiana defense, defensive pass rush led by Michael Camara.

565
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Speaker 2: They're not the biggest guys in the world, but they

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Speaker 2: go laterally. They don't go straight up the field. They

567
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Speaker 2: go laterally, which causes a lot of problems. World better

568
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Speaker 2: beyond his game. And you know, a couple of weeks

569
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Speaker 2: ago you asked me about Evan Stewart in the Texas

570
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Speaker 2: and transfer. I had a real good season last year.

571
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Speaker 2: Hurt his knee before the season in August camp. There's

572
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Speaker 2: taught that he may return to this game, and he

573
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Speaker 2: was shooting to play in this game. So it'll be

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Speaker 2: interesting to see if Evan Stewart gets on the field

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Speaker 2: against Indiana. That matchup against De'angelo Ponds, one of our

576
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 2: favorite cornerbacks. I mean, you know, the little engine that good.

577
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Speaker 2: He's a small guy, but he plays big football. He's

578
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Speaker 2: got outstanding ball skills, and.

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Speaker 1: Of course Finando Mendoza will continue to try to cement

580
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Speaker 1: himself as the potential top pick in this draft. Any more, Tony,

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Speaker 1: if Steven dall is going to be the playing this

582
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Speaker 1: game or is he going to be out again?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have not heard. I have not heard or

584
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Speaker 2: really seen any updates on that.

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Speaker 1: What's your Dante More temperature taking update in terms of

586
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: yay or nay going into the draft?

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Speaker 2: Good question. I spoke with people from his team right

588
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 2: before four New Years and what they were telling me

589
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: is it's a situation where don Kymore really has to

590
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Speaker 2: enter the draft. When you look at the money, the

591
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: fact he's either gonna be the first or second pick,

592
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Speaker 2: what he's going to make guaranteed over the next four

593
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 2: years is the same is basically the same as the

594
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Speaker 2: he's gonna go. If he goes back, he's gonna sign

595
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Speaker 2: an NIO deal with Oregon and endorsements for about twelve

596
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 2: to fifteen million over the He'll make four times that

597
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Speaker 2: amount guaranteed if he enters the draft. So from a

598
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Speaker 2: financial point of view, they're telling me he has to

599
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Speaker 2: enter the draft. Now, will he? That's gonna be up

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Speaker 2: to him. They told me, what'nna, it's gonna factor into

601
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Speaker 2: the teams where he could end up, which means either

602
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Speaker 2: the Raiders or the Jets. Is he comfortable there? A

603
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago when we talked, I thought it

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Speaker 2: was about thirty seventy he would enter the draft. What

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Speaker 2: I'm hearing now is probably seventy thirty he does enter

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Speaker 2: the draft. I've not spoken with dantamo I've not heard

607
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Speaker 2: about people in his team speaking with Dante Moore. Obviously,

608
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Speaker 2: Dante Moore's got bigger things on his place. He wants

609
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Speaker 2: to win a national championship. But they went a couple

610
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Speaker 2: of weeks I wrote an article essentially sports saying that

611
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Speaker 2: if he was going to be a top three pick,

612
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Speaker 2: his team was going to recommend to him that he

613
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Speaker 2: entered the draft. Now I'm hearing he basically has to

614
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Speaker 2: enter the draft because of the money. So it's gonna

615
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Speaker 2: come down to Dante Moore. Does he want to go

616
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Speaker 2: back to school for one year and make twelve million dollars?

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Speaker 2: Does he want to enter the NFL and get probably

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Speaker 2: fifty five million dollars guaranteed If he's the second pick

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Speaker 2: of the draft.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, you have two quarterback needy teams at

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Speaker 1: the top of the draft, so it's not gonna be

622
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Speaker 1: a mystery as to where he's going to go if

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Speaker 1: he decides to come out, So he'll have that all

624
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Speaker 1: out in front of him figuring out what's best for him.

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Speaker 2: The point was the point was this though, is he comfortable,

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Speaker 2: you know, if the Raiders don't take him with the

627
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Speaker 2: first pick, is he comfortable you know, ending up with

628
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Speaker 2: the New York Jets or does he would he rather

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Speaker 2: go back to Oregon one more year and that he

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Speaker 2: could end up with the Jets in twenty twenty seven,

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Speaker 2: who knows, But would you go back to Oregon one

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Speaker 2: more year and then roll the dice in twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. There was a fake meme rolling out there the

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Speaker 1: other day that someone claimed Dante Moore put something on

635
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Speaker 1: Instagram about not wanting to go to the Jets. That

636
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Speaker 1: turned out to be fake, by the way, So if

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Speaker 1: anybody saw that and they didn't see the fact that

638
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Speaker 1: it was fake, it was fake. So there's there's nothing

639
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Speaker 1: out there in terms of that involve I'm mark drafted

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Speaker 1: a little bit. We'll see those team.

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Speaker 2: Another former draft Donalds from ESPN that said, no player

642
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Speaker 2: in the draft wants to play for the New York Jets.

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Speaker 2: That's not true at all. Listen to just deserve a

644
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Speaker 2: lot of criticism. I criticize them all the time. But

645
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Speaker 2: no team is saying, you know, I don't want to

646
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: No players saying I don't want to play for the

647
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: New York Jets. It's just so when you're don game

648
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: more at the top, and you have options, and you

649
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: could stay in school another year and make twelve to

650
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: fifteen million dollars, that option is open to you now

651
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: these days.

652
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: All right, now, let's go to the other game, Tony

653
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: Ole Miss and Miami, another really good matchup, and again

654
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a Mimmi pass rush trying to shut

655
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: down a very explosive pass game and all Miss.

656
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: Well, you know, you have to see how Trinidad Chambliss,

657
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: you know, reacts to the pass rush. Now, is he

658
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: still able to make the same type of plays? Is

659
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: he still able to get out of trouble? And one

660
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: guy to keep an eye on is Mississippi left tackle

661
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: Diego Ponds. Diego Pounds was the blindside protector for Drake

662
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 2: May three years ago and he was fantastic. He's sort

663
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 2: of like your u the kid from the left tackle

664
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 2: from Alabama you mentioned before, miscages me because because it

665
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: was cold. In a sense, he is Proctor or Kayden Proctor.

666
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: He is a college left tackle who projects to the

667
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 2: right side. He's big, he's powerful, but he's a little

668
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: bit qunky. I mean, this is a matchup that Ruben

669
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 2: Bain and a key messador can exploit. Ponds is a

670
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: good late round pick. He's a big, strong guy. He'll

671
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 2: be able to make a name for himself as a

672
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: pass protector like he did when he when he was

673
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 2: blocking for Drake Maye. If he's able to slow down

674
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: Bade and Mezidor when he's lined up across him.

675
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, it'll be fun to watch. And by the way,

676
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: D'Angelo Pounds, I mean, let me tell you to the end,

677
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: D'Angelo Ponds and Diego Pounds two very different players, but

678
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: they're very similar in terms of how they are pronounced.

679
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: Fans to keep that by moving forward. And then again,

680
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: Kenty Scott will have a chance against two wide receivers

681
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: we mentioned Tony that had really big games last week.

682
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: It's gonna be interesting to watch this I mean shribbling

683
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: of Mississippi design stribbling has a size advantage. Wallace may

684
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: have a speed advantage, you know. I like Scott. I

685
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: like to see it more when he's making plays with

686
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: his back to the ball. But still it's gonna be

687
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: another opportunity for him against a very talented quarterback that

688
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: can make a lot of plays in the pocket, outside

689
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: of the pocket, make plays with his legs and Trinidad Chambliss.

690
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: And Miami wants to run the football on offense, Tony.

691
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: They don't want to make Carson back throw it forty

692
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: fifty times. And he talked about Xavian Harris in the

693
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: job he did for ole miss last week, the challenge

694
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: against a Miami running attack that has been very effective

695
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks.

696
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and as Cooper, you know, Diego gets all the

697
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: all the talk, the conversations focused on him, NFL prospects

698
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 2: and the Miami offensive line. And Nez Cooper is a strong, tough,

699
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: one blocking interior lineman at guard. I mean, he's a

700
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 2: lot of fun to watch. He's not a real mobile guy.

701
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: But the matchup against Tarris again, you know, it's a

702
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: chance for him, Like Diego pounds of Mississippi to kind

703
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: of put his stamp on this game. If he's able

704
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: to take Harris out of the game and open up

705
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: those running lanes from Mark Fletcher.

706
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: And then Tony I guess Carson Beck will continue to

707
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 1: have a chance here to cement himself as assuming Simpson

708
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: doesn't come out. We'll see about Chandlis. But Beck is

709
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: trying to establish himself. I guess his quarterback three, right,

710
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 1: I mean, he has a chance to be quarterback three right.

711
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 2: Maybe Listen, you know last year when Will Howard went

712
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: through the playoffs and took Ohio State to a national

713
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 2: championship and played relatively well, people were talking about him

714
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: as a Day two pick. You know there's a lot listen,

715
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: good for good for Carson Beck. He's done terrific, terrific.

716
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 2: I think if he's the number three quarterback it's because

717
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 2: there's not a lot of talent after your top two guys.

718
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: That might be true.

719
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: I mean, Garrett Nismeier, who he just talked about, I

720
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: happen to like Teylon Green. I Beck I think can

721
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: help himself, but I don't think he's really gonna move

722
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: the needle with two more good games. You know again

723
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 2: go back to the question is you know, can he

724
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: keep the momentum going? The momentum then he built up

725
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 2: an the Ohio State game. The defensive Mississippi is not

726
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 2: as strong as Ohio State's defense, you know, But he

727
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 2: didn't really, he didn't carry the team because he didn't

728
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 2: have to, whether it be against Texas A and M

729
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 2: the first week or whether the Ohio State. But still

730
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 2: you want him to see him protectable. That's what he

731
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 2: had to do.

732
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, no, no question about it. And again, by

733
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: the way, when I say quarterback three Tony, I don't

734
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: mean like in the first round or even Day two.

735
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: Quarterback three in this draft could be a round four

736
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: pick with the way it falls off a cliff after

737
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: you get past the top two guys.

738
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 2: Right, Well, yeah, I mean is this meer Day two pick?

739
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 2: I happen to like Teylon Green of Arkansas, who is

740
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 2: gonna be at the Senior Bowl. I think he can

741
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: be a he can be a Day two pick. And

742
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: then it's Carson Back. I mean, unless you're a Trinidad champless,

743
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: you gonna have to wait to see. I think Trinidad chamblass.

744
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 2: If he enters the draft, he probably is gonna be

745
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 2: quarterback three because of the lack of the lack of numbers,

746
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 2: the lack of quality there.

747
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: I completely agree with that. Don't forget that. Moody is

748
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,439
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749
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Speaker 1: Com check it out. All right, Tony, let's get to

751
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: our mock draft here as as there's nothing else you

752
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: want to touch on before we get to the machi

753
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: anything else for me or no, that's it, all right,

754
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 1: let's do it. So we decided to kind of each

755
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: do our own top twelves here, and we'll kind of

756
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: compare them and see what they look like. As I

757
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, Tony, I had a lot of trouble with this, Tony,

758
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: because I keep getting to players and I'm like, I

759
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: don't really think they're true top ten players, but I

760
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: have to fill spots in the top ten, and that

761
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: starts at like pick five, which is kind of funny

762
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: because a lot of the guys that I think are

763
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: true top ten talents are not at priority positions for

764
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: a lot of these teams, like you know, safety inside linebacker,

765
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: you know, running back. But they got to go in

766
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: because that's what the nature of this draft class is.

767
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: So let's start it off here. My guess is that

768
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: our top two are going to be very similar, so

769
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: we could probably go through those very quickly. I'll go first, Raiders,

770
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: Frenana Mendoza. I think Tom Brady'll like them. And you know,

771
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: it sure sounds like that. You know, the Raiders they

772
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: let goal P Carrol. It sounds like they're targeting a

773
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: Brian Flores Brian Dable combination as quarterback and as rather

774
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: head coach and offensive coordinator. You know, Brian Dable does

775
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: tend to like quarterbacks are a little bit more mobile,

776
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: So I wonder how he'll view more versus Mendoza if

777
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: more comes out. But I think for now you have

778
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 1: to go chalk and put Mendoza on the Raiders, though

779
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: I would not write that in Pen.

780
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 2: I wanted to put Dante Moore as a number one pick,

781
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: but then I thought a week ago before he was fired,

782
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: I posted an article on Essentially Sports that everybody was

783
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 2: telling me Pete Carroll is gonna get fired and Tom

784
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 2: Brady is going to have a huge say, and what

785
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 2: goes on with the Raiders. He's a minority.

786
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: Owner, or it sounds that way.

787
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 2: What I thought about is which quarterback is more like

788
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: Tom Brady in this draft, Fernando Mendoza or Dante Moore

789
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 2: And from an on the field play, from a physical skillability,

790
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 2: from just the way he carries himself, it's much more

791
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 2: so Fernando Mendoza. And you know, Dabele may you prefer

792
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 2: the mobile quarterbacks for Nano. Mondoza isn't immobile now, He's

793
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 2: just not as mobile as Dante Moore. He's that's a

794
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 2: sitting duckbacker. He can't pick up yardage with his legs.

795
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 2: So I think when you look at obviously the needs

796
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 2: you look at, you know, Tom Brady's gonna have a

797
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 2: huge say. I think it's going to be frinandem one

798
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 2: dose as well. And then the Jets with Dante Moore.

799
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have the Jets with Dante Moore as well. Again,

800
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: we'll see if he ends up coming out. I'd be

801
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: surprised if he didn't at this point. And Tony look

802
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: that that to me is a big deal for the

803
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: Jets because they amassed all these picks and now they

804
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: don't have to trade some of them away to acquire

805
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: the quarterback, and you know who knows if Dantey Moore

806
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: is going to be the guy. The Jets obviously have

807
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: struggled throughout their franchise history of drafting the right quarterback

808
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: and turning him into a franchise guy. But the fact

809
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: that you can just make the pick and not deal

810
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: all that extra draft capital that you can now use

811
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: to surround the quarterback with good players. You already ever

812
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: pretty good offensive line, you have one good really wide

813
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: receiver and Garret Wolsey maybe a draft another one this year.

814
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: So if they get more with the second pick, Tony,

815
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: they can build it. And they have Mason Taylor a

816
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: tight end, do they like they can build a pretty

817
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: good offensive infrastructure around the rookie quarterback. I think to

818
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: give them a good Jets to succeed there, which was

819
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 1: not the case for their past couple of rookie quarterback

820
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson and Sam Darnold, when they had nothing good

821
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: going around around those two guys.

822
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna agree with you and disagree. I agree with

823
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: you that this is like having the second pick is

824
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 2: like manna from heaven, as they say. For the New

825
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 2: York Jets, and three weeks ago, Jet fans are beating

826
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 2: themselves up of why why did we beat Cleveland? We're

827
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: gonna lose out on a quarterback. And then two sundays ago,

828
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 2: the Giants and the Raiders are battling out for the

829
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 2: first pick of the draft. And here it is the

830
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: end of the regular season. Did Jets have the second pick?

831
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 2: So that they basically losing all those games the end

832
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: of the season by twenty plus points, basically they end

833
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: up with the second pick. I don't know that the

834
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 2: Jets have selected the wrong quarterbacks. I think the Jets

835
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 2: have selected the wrong coaches. I think the Jets have

836
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: don't get the proper people in there to develop the.

837
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,439
Speaker 1: Quarter That's fair. That's fair, Tony.

838
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 2: The back to the matter is Sam Darnall, who was

839
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 2: a bust in the you are is now quarterbacking the

840
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: number one seed in the in the NFC.

841
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: Good points.

842
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: Smith had a lot had some success post New York Jets,

843
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 2: post New York Jets career, So my concern is not

844
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 2: so much Dante. More, my concern is the culture with

845
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 2: the New York Jets and their inability to develop a quarterback.

846
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 2: I mean, the last time they developed the quarterback was

847
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 2: Kenny O'Brien in the eighties. They had leading success with

848
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 2: Chad Penningtons had leading success with Mark Sanchez. They just

849
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 2: don't seem to have that equation when it comes to

850
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 2: the signal caller.

851
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: I do like the player again, I like the offensive line,

852
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: though you have Garret Wilson, and you know, we'll see

853
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: if Breese Hall comes back or not. So I think

854
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: the infrastructure is there. They have a shot. But you're right,

855
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: we'll see if the Jets can can figure that out.

856
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 1: All right, pick number three, Tony, I'll take this one.

857
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: I really wanted to give the Cardinals of right tackle.

858
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: In fact, I had Spencer Fano in this spot. But

859
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: then I looked and I'm like, you have the chance

860
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: to pick the first non quarterback in the draft. I

861
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: have to give you the one that I think is

862
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: the best. And it's not like the Cardinals can't use

863
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: a linebacker an edge player. They need a lot of

864
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: help on defense too, So I gave him Marvel Reese

865
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: as much as I thought about giving him Spencer Fano. Here.

866
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: I agree with you about the offensive tackle, but you

867
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 2: can't put any of those offensive tackles.

868
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: I agree.

869
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,479
Speaker 2: And the fact is, we don't know number one, who's

870
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 2: going to be coaching the Cardinals. We don't even know

871
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: if Kyler Murray is going to be the quarterback for

872
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: the Cardinals.

873
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: I would say probably not right.

874
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: You know, which makes another hole on the offensive side

875
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: of the ball. I stay true to my board. I

876
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: looked at their knees. On offense. I went with Jeremiah Love.

877
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: They need a running back shooting, playing in warm weather.

878
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 2: It's gonna be very good for him. He's just an

879
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 2: explosive guy. He's a three down back. He's a terrific

880
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 2: pass catcher out of the backfield. After all, you shouldn't listen.

881
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: This guy's a playmaker. This guy makes the offense better

882
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 2: from day one. Uh. There's just so many questions about

883
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: the Cardinals that remain on the answer between now and

884
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: draft day.

885
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: I just went by.

886
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,760
Speaker 2: I said I'm not gonna I'm gonna fill a need

887
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 2: based on my board, and Jeremiah Love was the highest

888
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 2: rated player and it was in need.

889
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: I tell you. Then, the Titans at four, who do

890
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: you got?

891
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: I haven't taken Ruben Bain. I mean, the best edge rusher.

892
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 2: They've always looking for. A tress again, a team we

893
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 2: don't know who their coach is gonna be, but they've

894
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 2: needed an edge rusher for the longest time. I think

895
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: a lot depends on who the coach is, the defensive system.

896
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: Are they going to play a four man front or

897
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: they're gonna play a three man front. But again, looking

898
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 2: at the board, looking at the team needs, this is

899
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: one that kind of was rather easy for me.

900
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: I gave him an edge rusher to Tony, but it

901
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: wasn't Ruben Bain. I ended up giving him Keldric Falk.

902
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: I've heard so many whispers that Bain's measurements are going

903
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: to scare people away with this Tyrannosaurus rex arms, and

904
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a big, you know, piece of conversation

905
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: we're going to have. Where does he fit? Is he

906
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: an edge? Is he a three technique? Where do you

907
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: put him? I think that's gonna scare teams a little bit.

908
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: I think the Titans look Borganzi's his in his you know,

909
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: second years GM or going into his second year as

910
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: GM didn't even just finishes first. They're gonna have a

911
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: new head coach. I think they're gonna take a long

912
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: term outlook at this. I really wanted to give the

913
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: the Titans a wide receiver here. I just couldn't justify it.

914
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: It picked number four to help cam Ward. Keldrick Fawk

915
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: is one of the youngest players in the draft. His

916
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: physical profile is off the charts, much like Baying. The

917
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: numbers and the production aren't what you want them to be.

918
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: So I do think there is a level of risk here.

919
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: So I gave Keldrick Falk to the Titans. Here at

920
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: number four. He can play edge, you can slide him

921
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: into the three technique and maybe you know, passing situation.

922
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: So I gave him Falk. And I think this will

923
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: be an interesting conversation throughout the process, Tony. You know,

924
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: if you put Reese's kind of a hybrid linebacker edge player,

925
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: who's the first true edge defensive end that's gonna get picked.

926
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,479
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be Bain or is it gonna be Falk?

927
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: I would agree with you. And I like Falk. I mean,

928
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 2: I thought coming into the season he was top five material.

929
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 2: He just didn't meet my expectations this year. And that's

930
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 2: their threat, which is a concern to me.

931
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: All Right, So the New York Giants are number five, Tony,

932
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: I went leading more need here, I think a little bit.

933
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: I thought about Rubin Payne, but the Giants have invested

934
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: so much on the at the edge position already on

935
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: the defensive line. I couldn't bring myself to do it.

936
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: Giant fans might come for me. I even thought about

937
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 1: Sonny Styles pick here where I think the Giants knee

938
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: off ball linebacker. He's a really good player, but I

939
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: think it's too high for him. I couldn't do that,

940
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: so I went Carneal Tate. I took the first wide

941
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 1: receiver off the board for the New York Giants. He's

942
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: a big, long, fast wide receiver that I think fits

943
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: really well opposite of the leak neighbors. I thought about

944
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: Francis now we know it here as well. The Giants

945
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: could have a whole lot offensive tackle, which Jermaine Lumino

946
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: is a free agent, but I think they like Marcus

947
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: bow Is a guy that can slide in there. So

948
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: I didn't want to force what now we know. I

949
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: didn't want to force. With Spencer Fano, the other right

950
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: tackle that I mentioned earlier, I think he's a guy

951
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: that would be in the mix here as well as

952
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: a possible pick, so I lean more into need here.

953
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: The Giants need another playmaker on offense help their quarterback

954
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart. So I will with Carnel Tate, the wide

955
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: receiver right of Ohio State.

956
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: What number do you know or do you do it?

957
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 2: What numbers carnal Tit on your board? As far as

958
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 2: overall prospects.

959
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: I don't have that set up yet, but he probably

960
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: went all said and done, Tony. If I do it

961
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: quick off the top of my head, if I take

962
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks out of it and I'm just looking at

963
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 1: position players, I would probably have him one two, three, four,

964
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: seven ish eight ish something like that. Probably.

965
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, then it's not that I mean, I have

966
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: carnal Tait further down the list. Carnal Tit is actually

967
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 2: my thirteenth rate pleasure, assuming all the classmen we talked about.

968
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 2: So for me, for me, that's a bit of a reach. Listen,

969
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 2: Arvel Reese is sitting.

970
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: There, Joe, not for me. Not for me. He's out

971
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: the board for me the way I am.

972
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 2: Arvel Reese is sitting there. Giants need help with defense.

973
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: They need a guy who can help stop the run.

974
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 2: He's not you know, people say, is he an edge rusher.

975
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 2: He's a linebacker who can rush the passers. He's a

976
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: linebacker that can stack the run, that can make plays

977
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 2: in pursuit, that can cover tight ends, that can get

978
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 2: down the field, that can rush the passer if and

979
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 2: when you need them. So I'm not drafting an edge

980
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 2: rusher here. I'm drafting a linebacker that can rush the

981
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 2: passer if and when you need him, which isn't in

982
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: need for the Giants. But they're getting a three down

983
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 2: player at the linebacker position third and five. You can

984
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 2: keep them on the field to cover running backs out

985
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 2: of the backfield, to stay with tight ends down the field,

986
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 2: or if you want to blitz them. He'll do a

987
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: good job for you there.

988
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: And Tony for the record of arvar Reese was on

989
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: the board. For me, I would have selected him here

990
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: for that same very reason, as more of an off

991
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: ball linebacker, as a guy that can make the books

992
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: a little bit. But that's why I mentioned Sonny styles.

993
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: But I do think that could be a need for

994
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: the Giants. If reeseozar, I would have picked him, But

995
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: since he wasn't, I want the wide receiver Carnell Tape.

996
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the Cleveland Browns here Tony

997
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: at number six. Who do you got?

998
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 2: I take Spencer Fano. They have desperate knees on offense. Obviously,

999
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 2: quarterback is a question. They need a receiver. They're pretty

1000
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 2: set at the tight end, they're pretty set at running back.

1001
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 2: But they need help on the offensive line. Which is

1002
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 2: kind of ironic because just a few years ago the

1003
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: offensive line looked like a strength for the Cleveland Browns.

1004
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 2: They've had injuries. Jack Conklin, you don't know if he's

1005
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 2: playing or not. Thewan Jones, you know, our favorite guy

1006
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 2: from the Senior Bowl a couple of years ago. When

1007
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: he's good, he's good, but a lot of times he's

1008
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: on the sidelines. They got to start on the line

1009
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 2: to scrimmage. Kind of interesting that they fired the coach,

1010
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 2: but they kept Andrew Berry, who signed Deshaun Watching that

1011
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 2: a huge deal about five years ago. You got you

1012
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 2: gotta start with the line of shore. Defensive line of

1013
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: scrimmage is terrific. Their defense is really good. Their offensive

1014
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 2: line is a disaster. That's why I went with Fano

1015
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 2: for the Cleveland Browns with the six pick.

1016
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: Now that that's why I have there at the six

1017
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: pick as well, I have Fano in there. All their

1018
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 1: offensive linemanter free agents this year, all their starters. Tony,

1019
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 1: they need offensive lineman desperately. I think he's the best one.

1020
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: So I'm with the Spencer Fano to the Browns at six.

1021
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: I won't spend much more time on that. And then

1022
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: for me, Tony, I stole Ruby Bay on the board.

1023
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: So for me, the Commanders at seven, they desperately need

1024
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: pass rush at defensive end. Man like, their pass rush

1025
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: is not very good. So to me, this was an

1026
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: easy run to the podium. I can't believe Rubin Bain

1027
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: is still there. Let's pick him. The Commanders will walk

1028
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: away with Ruby Bain, who plays with a you know,

1029
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: high energy, violent style I think dan Quinn will really

1030
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: like and I think it will appeal to him. You

1031
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: look at some of the power ends he had when

1032
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: he was in Seattle back in the day. You're talking

1033
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 1: about Michael Bennett and Cliff Averril, right, So I think

1034
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: he kind of falls into that sort of category. So

1035
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: I thought this was for me a very easy pick.

1036
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: Ruben Bain to the Commander's at number seven.

1037
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, he also liked those smaller, speedier edge rushers, which

1038
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 2: is why I went with David Baily with you Like It,

1039
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 2: edge director from Texas Tech, Who's I think is going

1040
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 2: to make a big jump up draft boards. He's an

1041
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 2: explosive player. You know, he may only be about two

1042
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 2: hundred and forty five pounds, but I said this constantly.

1043
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: If you watch him, he's not a small two hundred

1044
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 2: forty five pounds because he holds his ground against blocks

1045
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 2: by opposing offensive tackles, they can't move him off the ball.

1046
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 2: And he also has the athleticisms to drop off the

1047
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 2: line and play in space on zone blitzes if you

1048
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 2: want to use him as that. So you're getting probably

1049
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 2: the premier pass rusher in college footballall not necessarily a

1050
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 2: top pass rushing prospect, and a guy that you can

1051
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 2: use in a variety of ways, which I think is

1052
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 2: something Dan Quinn is really going to like you.

1053
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: All right? The TONI be the Saints in number eight? Here,

1054
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: who do you got have him?

1055
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 2: Taking Keldrick Fall You know they need an edge rusher,

1056
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 2: they take a guy from the state of Alabama. Obviously

1057
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 2: Tyler Shunk has worked out for them. Good for them

1058
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 2: and good for Tyler Shucktey don't need a quarterback looks

1059
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: like they got their QB of the future. You know,

1060
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 2: the Saints are funny because they're always drafting on the

1061
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,439
Speaker 2: lines of scrimmage, offensive and defensive line with early draft picks,

1062
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 2: yet there's always a need there. I think that Keldrick

1063
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 2: fall fits a couple of needs on the defensive line.

1064
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought about David Baily here Tony. In fact,

1065
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: I had him in the slot for a little while.

1066
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 1: I decided to push him out of it instead. I

1067
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: went who I think might be the best defensive player

1068
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: in this draft class, and that's Caleb Downs. He's a

1069
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: do everything player that can, you know, play slot, he

1070
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: can play safety. He's just an instinctual player, and I

1071
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: think the Saints will fall in love with him and

1072
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: they watch him. You know, Chase Young's been actually really

1073
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: good for them as an edge rusher this year. He's

1074
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: done a really nice job. They don't have a second

1075
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: one because you know, Cameron Jordan's like eighty years old

1076
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 1: and he's at some point going to retire, even though

1077
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: he's still a very good player. But I decided to

1078
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: go with Caleb Downs here, one of the best defenders

1079
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: on the board.

1080
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 2: I mean, it makes sense, you know, they need defense.

1081
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 2: I just think their history is drafting on the lines

1082
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 2: of scrimmage.

1083
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: No, I totally agree with that, which is why I

1084
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 1: was close going Baalley. I get that's a little twist. Today,

1085
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: let's go to pick number nine. Believe it or not,

1086
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: it's the Kansas City Chiefs where I mean if you

1087
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: before the year to Kansas City Chiefs, really and I

1088
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: could not resist here, Tony, I just couldn't. I want

1089
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: to see Jeremiah Love play with Andy Reid and Patrick

1090
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: Mahomes and he's sitting there, and they need explosive playmaker.

1091
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: I think Travis Kelsey's gonna retire that those wide receivers,

1092
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: you know, the Xavier Worthies and Rashie Rice, they just

1093
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: did not get the job done as explosive playmakers this year.

1094
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: So why not just draft the best explosive playmaker in

1095
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: the draft, and that's Jeremiah Love, which I think will

1096
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: give the Chiefs an aspect of their offense that they

1097
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: have never had before with Patrick Mahomes as their quarterback.

1098
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: And you go back to what you think about when

1099
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 1: Andy Ruder was with the Eagles, right, he had guys

1100
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: like Douce Staly, Brian Westbrook, is more of a guy

1101
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: that comes to mind, you can catch it and run it,

1102
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: and loves a much bigger player than he was, he

1103
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: can do a little bit more. I think even so

1104
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: this to me, it was a home run pick. Jeremiah

1105
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 1: Loved to the Chiefs, which you will just transform that

1106
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: offense and make it a dominant unit once again.

1107
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 2: I think that's a great pick. I mean, and he'd

1108
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 2: work well with Isaiah Pacheco, I mean, was your side pounder.

1109
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 2: And then you bring in Love, who can pick and

1110
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 2: choose the spots. He's got the speed and the agility

1111
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 2: to turn the corner and he is a terrific pass catcher.

1112
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love just isn't on my ball because he went

1113
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: so early. Kansas City was the first sort of mild reach.

1114
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 2: I had him taking Carnell Tape because of the need

1115
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 2: at wide receiver. And if you don't answer that need,

1116
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 2: you're wasting Patrick Holmes. If you don't protect you don't

1117
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 2: protect him, you're wasting Patrick Holmes. You're wasting the career

1118
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 2: of one of the top, probably the top quarterback in

1119
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 2: the league. So you better get some weapons. I would

1120
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 2: have liked to put a cornerback here, but Carnell Tate

1121
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 2: has rated higher on my board than Mansor Delaine, who

1122
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 2: I don't think is a top ten pick.

1123
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: Did you consider Caleb Downs here, Tony?

1124
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 2: I did not. I did not because if you look

1125
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 2: at their history, they usually get their safeties in the

1126
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 2: third round thish or so, and the need at receiver

1127
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 2: is just so great. Caleb Downs is much higher rate

1128
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 2: on my board, much much higher rated. But I said,

1129
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 2: you know what, you gotta do things, whether it's in

1130
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 2: free agency or in the draft, to really know, fortify

1131
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 2: the protection and give weapons to Patrick Mahomes rather than

1132
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 2: just watching his career fritter away because you haven't surrounded

1133
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 2: him with the right people.

1134
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: Now, I get it, Tony. If tit was on the

1135
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 1: board for me, I would have considered him here. But look,

1136
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: I think, and I do think Caleb Downs. De Spagnola

1137
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: would love him. He would be such a chess piece

1138
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: for him to play all around the defense. But I

1139
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: totally get why you went where you went. All right,

1140
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: then we have the Bengals here, Tony, number ten? What

1141
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: do you got?

1142
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 2: I wanted to put Peter Woods here, but that defense

1143
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 2: has not been the same since they lost Jesse Bates.

1144
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 2: Caleb Downs is still on the board. That's whoy I

1145
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 2: went with. He's doing. He's my second rated player on

1146
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 2: the board. Here are the Bengals drafting at number ten.

1147
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: Safety is in need. It's not as high a need

1148
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 2: as a defensive tackle, so some people may go offensive

1149
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 2: tackle to spot. But again, what you said about Cale Dowbins,

1150
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 2: which speaks Steve Spagnola, I think you'll see the same

1151
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati. Who you know, Like I said, when Jesse

1152
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 2: Bates was there, it was and Jesse Bates obviously was

1153
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 2: what a third round pick, It's just a it was

1154
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 2: a different situation. Caleb Downs is a much better player,

1155
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 2: much more productive, much higher rated at equal points in

1156
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 2: his career with Jesse Bates, so I think he changes

1157
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 2: the face of that Bengals defense.

1158
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Tony David Bally who was still on the

1159
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 1: board from me here, so I had to go with

1160
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: David Bally. You don't know what's gonna happen with Trey

1161
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: Hendrickson when it comes to the Cincinnati Bengals. Is he

1162
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: going to be back? They can franchise the tag him,

1163
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: but that's gonna get mess given everything that happened with

1164
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: him last year. With the contract, so they get to

1165
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: need an edge player. They need to, you know, kind

1166
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: of get players on that defense. I can just play.

1167
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: Their defense was better the end of the year, but

1168
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,479
Speaker 1: it still wasn't good enough. So to me, David Belly

1169
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: was one of the easier picture me that he was

1170
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: still sitting there at ten. That was kind of a

1171
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: run to the podium type of deal. I know you're

1172
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,479
Speaker 1: a big fan, so let me go to pick dumber

1173
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: eleven here Miami Dolphins, Tony and I went Francis Maw

1174
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 1: we know it here. They've kind of had offensive line issues.

1175
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: Whoever their quarterback ends up being next year, I could

1176
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: see Kyler Murray winding up in Miami. I think that

1177
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: would be a kind of good fit for him if

1178
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 1: they decide to move on from Tool, which it looks

1179
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: like they're going to try to do given the fact

1180
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 1: that they benched him over the course of the year.

1181
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: It looks like Mike McDaniel is going to be back.

1182
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: I think Kyler Murray in that system I think would

1183
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 1: be interesting. So I went Francis Maw we know it

1184
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 1: here to try to shore up the right side of

1185
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: that offensive line where they've had some issues. Likely to tackle.

1186
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: You know, you can always move him guard if you want,

1187
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 1: but I think he can play tackle. And I thought

1188
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 1: that was a pretty easy pick here for the Dolphins

1189
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: at eleven.

1190
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 2: Saying I mean in my prior mock drafts, Magyola was

1191
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 2: gone by this pick. I had the Dolphins taking Monsieur Delaine.

1192
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:13,479
Speaker 2: Magyola is much higher rated. Fills the need tackle, maybe

1193
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 2: a guard, both positions of need for the Dolphins. And

1194
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 2: you know what, he gets to play on the same

1195
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 2: field that he's been playing on for the past three

1196
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 2: years at the University of Miami, so he really doesn't

1197
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 2: travel very far.

1198
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: No question. I Tony, the last pick we're doing today,

1199
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna do picks thirteen through twenty four

1200
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: tomorrow with these same players off next week. Part of me,

1201
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: with these same players off the board, give me your

1202
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: pick for the Dallas Cowboys that picked number twelve, Tony, I.

1203
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 2: Really wanted to give him Monsieur Delayne here, but I

1204
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 2: went with Sonny Styles, an off ball winebacker who can

1205
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 2: play in coverage. Obviously he's not a cornerback. He can

1206
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 2: make plays in pursuit, a guy that's terrific in coverage.

1207
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 2: He can blitz the quarterback on occasion. You know, there

1208
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 2: seems to be a vibe about Sonny Styles and the

1209
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys, who just fired their defensive coordinator. So we'll

1210
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 2: have to wait and see what happens. But I went

1211
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 2: with Sonny Styles going to the Cowboys at this pick.

1212
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: Well, Tony, we had the same exact debate whether it's

1213
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: the later Styles. Those are the two guys I was

1214
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: looking at too, and I also went with Sonny Styles.

1215
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: I slide the slim them in there. I think you

1216
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: put them next to the Marvian overshown and you have

1217
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: those two guys with their speed, Tony and instincts running

1218
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: around the middle of that defense. That to me is

1219
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: a scary combination. But their secondary so bad. They have

1220
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: a lot of issues in the back end. Other than

1221
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: Deron Bland. They drafted Cheavon Ravel last year. I know.

1222
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: But who's their third and fourth corner? But again, I

1223
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: don't think the lane's gonna measure and test particularly well,

1224
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: and I think that'll you know, we're really going to

1225
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: pick a corner that's not that fast and not that

1226
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: big and pick him at twelfth. Overall, I have a

1227
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: hard time thinking that's gonna happen. So I thought Sonny

1228
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: Styles probably the best player left on the board too.

1229
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: To be totally honest with you, I know it's not

1230
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: a super valuable position at off ball linebacker, but to me,

1231
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: I think Styles is the pick here. I love these

1232
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: converted safeties that turned into linebackers, and if you looked

1233
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: at Sonny Styles, you would say, oh my gosh, that

1234
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: guy played safety. He he's not small, but he has

1235
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: safety instinct. So I think he is probably the next

1236
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: best player left on the board.

1237
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got linebackers in college that are built like

1238
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 2: small more like smaller safeties than they are a big

1239
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 2: safeties than they are big line smaller linebackers. Sonny Styles

1240
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 2: is a safety that looks and is built like a linebacker.

1241
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it. Again, we'll have to wait

1242
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 2: and see. I agree with what you said about about

1243
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 2: the lane. Styles was much higher rated. The only guy

1244
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 2: that and you didn't have me either in the top

1245
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 2: twelve kind of fell out of your top twelve as

1246
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 2: well was Peter Woods.

1247
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought about him too, but I couldn't find

1248
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: a good fit. I thought about the Dolphins at eleven,

1249
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: I really did, but I decided not to go there.

1250
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't see the Dolphins, especially if they took

1251
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 2: a defensive tackle in the middle of first round last year,

1252
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 2: going back at that spot. Maybe Cincinnati, because I've had them.

1253
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 2: I passed two mock drafts going to Cincinnati, but Caleb Downswelling.

1254
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 2: So again, the point is this is, now that the

1255
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 2: order is set, is kind of interesting to see how

1256
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 2: these players fall because we know what's gonna happen moving forward,

1257
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 2: and you know, I mean, it's gonna be interesting to see.

1258
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 2: I don't do trades in my mock draft unless they

1259
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 2: hear about them right before the draft. It's gonna be interesting.

1260
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 2: I look at the top twelve. I look at Arizona,

1261
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 2: maybe the Giants. I look at Kansas City. I mean,

1262
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 2: these are teams that are very likely to look to

1263
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 2: trade down out of the top ten, out of the

1264
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 2: top twelve. But the fact is is how many teams

1265
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 2: are gonna be clamoring to move up and who are

1266
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 2: they going to really be clamoring to move up to get? No.

1267
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Tony, And it's funny when you look

1268
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: at it. We had the identical set of players in

1269
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: our top twelve. It was a different order, but all

1270
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: both of us and tell me if I'm wrong here,

1271
01:00:56,320 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: I tracked it Mendoza, more Reese, fok eight, Fano Bane

1272
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: downs love Bally Mallyinoa's styles. So we had to say

1273
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: in a draft where and we did not compare notes. Folks,

1274
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: before this show, I promised you that in a year

1275
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: where I think the top ten is very jumbled is

1276
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Speaker 1: the word I'll use, the fact that we had the

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Speaker 1: same twelve players in our top twelve, I think it's

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Speaker 1: pretty amazing and quite surprising, to be honest with you.

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Speaker 2: Some people will say great minds think alike. Other peoples

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Speaker 2: will say that's really creepy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or that both of us as morons and we

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Speaker 1: don't know what we're doing and we were on the

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Speaker 1: same page that way, give me that too. So again,

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Speaker 1: next week we'll have picks thirteen through twenty four as

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Speaker 1: we continue this mock draft, because we will have the

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Speaker 1: draft order set through the twenty fourth pick, and then

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Speaker 1: we will also preview the college football playoff finals and

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Speaker 1: look back at the semis Tony always fun, my friend.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy your week. We'll talk next week.

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Speaker 2: Look forward to it. John.

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Speaker 1: That's Draft season presented by Moody's a proud sponsor of

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Speaker 1: with us. We'll see you next time. Everybody,