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Speaker 1: As a late fifteen to ten touchdown Chargers. But so guys,

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Speaker 1: we're back with a Week seven edition of Chargers Weekly,

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Speaker 1: as always, joined by Matt Muddy Smith. As the Chargers

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Speaker 1: fall to the Cowboys Monday Night Football, twenty to seventeen,

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Speaker 1: a game they were in seemingly the entire sixty minutes

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Speaker 1: and money just a combination of things. Man, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you could pin it on one specific. It

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Speaker 1: was an ugly game, nine penalties. The pressure that Justin

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Speaker 1: Herbert had on him was more than I think I've

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Speaker 1: seen in recent memory, at least even when Justin had

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Speaker 1: a clean pocket. You know, he was sailing some balls.

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Speaker 1: And you know, defensively you can hold Tony Pollard to

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Speaker 1: two yards of pop, but it just takes one play.

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Speaker 1: And I really think at the beginning of that fourth quarter,

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Speaker 1: that sixty yard big chunk play that pollared, You know,

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Speaker 1: I think Michael Davis missed a tackle on a couple

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Speaker 1: guy stopped short before the whistle, and that was kind

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Speaker 1: of the one play that got the Cowboys going and

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Speaker 1: really all they needed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, you know, to me, I don't think

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Speaker 2: the score told the story. I felt like the Chargers

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Speaker 2: got out played in that game quite a bit. It

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Speaker 2: just it did not feel like it was their game

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Speaker 2: save the first drive. You know, yeah, they forced the

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Speaker 2: three and out that first drive. They looked like a

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Speaker 2: buzz saw, and we're like, all right, here we go.

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Speaker 2: We might end up with one of these, you know,

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Speaker 2: incredibly exciting Charger Primetime games twenty eight, twenty one, thirty five, thirty,

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Speaker 2: you know, twenty eight, one of those, and then it

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Speaker 2: just stalled out. The offense could not get anything going

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Speaker 2: in A big part of that was just the offense

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Speaker 2: got no push. The old line got no push. They

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Speaker 2: were on their heels the whole game. You know, Justin

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Speaker 2: said as much. I don't think I'm being mean or

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Speaker 2: anything when I say it was a really bad Herbert game.

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Speaker 2: He did not play well. There was pressure, but there

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Speaker 2: was also time, and I think the pressure got to

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Speaker 2: him a little bit. I think he alluded to that.

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Speaker 2: We don't see him sail balls like that. Those are

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Speaker 2: two brilliantly drawn up plays by Kellen Moore. Those shot plays,

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Speaker 2: the slant, both of them, Slanton goes and I mean,

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Speaker 2: my gosh, Deron Bland is doing a somersault on the one.

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Speaker 2: You know, Keenan juked him so hard on the left

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Speaker 2: side line, and to see you know, Herbert not under

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Speaker 2: pressure airmail. That thing was like, holy cow, we do

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Speaker 2: not see that ever. And I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: that was just it was in his head. You know,

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Speaker 2: the one at the end of the first half. I

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Speaker 2: think you're talking about a ten point swing. You know,

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys get a field goal out of that, and

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Speaker 2: the uh are you know, and the Chargers, you know,

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Speaker 2: don't get I think that was a touchdown, the one

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Speaker 2: down the left sideline going the other way, the first

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Speaker 2: one that he threw. You know, Keenan had one guy

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Speaker 2: So that's that's a bummer. The look, you know, they

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Speaker 2: run our pos all the time. You've got to be

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Speaker 2: better in eligible men downfield like that. You can't. You

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Speaker 2: got to just kind of think the plays. And they

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Speaker 2: didn't do that. You know. Now granted they got a

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Speaker 2: touchdown anyway with with Keenan, but you know that should

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Speaker 2: have been a Josh Palmer touchdown, you know, were it

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Speaker 2: not for the ineligible man downfield. And it's just you

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Speaker 2: kind of got to understand how those plays work. They

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Speaker 2: do take a second to develop. You can't fire out

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Speaker 2: not the run play, if he's gonna you know, pull

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Speaker 2: it was a really bad Derwin game that that touchdown

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Speaker 2: was all on him, the Dak, And you know, I

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Speaker 2: think that's something that's that's probably got to be discussed.

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Speaker 2: Is he's he's struggling man. He is not having a

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Speaker 2: good year. Derwin is not. And the penalties just they

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Speaker 2: they have to stop. They just have to stop. The

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Speaker 2: they're there. They're bad penalties, you know, just to and

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to kind of just talk straight and not

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Speaker 2: and you are two beats late when you lower your

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Speaker 2: You know, that's fifteen yards. The play to Dak is

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Speaker 2: just not thinking through the play and knowing what your

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Speaker 2: that's a big issue on the defense is just Derwin

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Speaker 2: I think that's really hurting this team. You know, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna disagree with coach a little bit on the on

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Speaker 2: the Ceede Lamb stuff. He's wide open, guy is wide open.

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Speaker 2: Seven targets, seven catches, one hundred and seventeen yards. Now,

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Speaker 2: I am gonna, you know, tip my cap to coach

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Speaker 2: and to coach Daley and to Derek Ansley. The DC

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Speaker 2: defense was good enough. You hold the Cowboys to twenty points,

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Speaker 2: and you're good enough that that's offense has got to

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Speaker 2: of going on a little bit too long here, Chris.

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Speaker 2: I'll try to wrap it up with this, and we

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Speaker 2: can obviously dig in deeper, but like you can't let

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Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb and Micah Parsons beat you. Those are we

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Speaker 2: talked about this. There's two guys that's that's like they're

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Speaker 2: to make sure I look out for that. I can

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Speaker 2: deal with the left jab, I can deal with the bodybulls.

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Speaker 2: I cannot take the right hand to the face and

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Speaker 2: seven for one seventeen some on third and twelve third downs,

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Speaker 2: he's wide open. And I think that that's that's an issue,

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Speaker 2: and I think not to realize on that final you

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Speaker 2: have got to know exactly where Micah Parsons is. If

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Speaker 2: you're justin Herbert, that is the one guy you when

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Speaker 2: you are standing there in that shotgun, Okay, where's eleven?

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Speaker 2: Where is he? And there he is, I know where

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Speaker 2: he is. I got to make sure he's in my

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Speaker 2: that's I think just kind of some of the things

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Speaker 1: Want to go back to what you were saying about

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Speaker 1: Derwin because I coincidentally, you know, sometimes you run around,

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Speaker 1: hear it in your voice. It's like, hey, this can't happen.

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Speaker 1: And it's three free points, right, It's so exactly you're

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Speaker 1: giving points away. And we hear so much about this

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Speaker 1: You know, Tony Pollard had two yards to carry. That's great.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, there's sixty four defensive snaps in

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Speaker 1: this game, right. Some of them are self inflicted penalties.

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Speaker 1: Some of them are you know, the one in particular money,

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Speaker 1: like the Tony Pollard play that can't happen, That cannot happen,

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Speaker 1: a sixty yard chunk play when you had them dead

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Speaker 1: frustrated the week before not getting the football they were

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Speaker 1: gonna make a concerted effort to get him the football.

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Speaker 1: They obviously made quite the effort to get Dak on

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Speaker 1: the move, and you know know that RPO kind of

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Speaker 1: It may not show up on the stat sheet, but

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Speaker 1: every play man I was watching Michaeh Parsons and whether

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Speaker 1: because we don't see that from Justin Man. We don't

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Speaker 1: see him sale balls like that, especially ones that are

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Speaker 1: You don't have Corey Linsley and I think money too.

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Speaker 1: This was a huge illustration of just how important Corey

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Speaker 1: Linsley and Mike Williams are to this offense. Oh you know,

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Speaker 2: It's Mike Williams, Chris, Yes, it's Mike, Like when And

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Speaker 2: I just pulled up the stats because I want to

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Speaker 2: make sure the numbers right. Mike left the game in

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Speaker 2: week two, right, Week two against Tennessee, I'm sorry, Week

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Speaker 2: three leaves. He leaves the game in Week three and

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Speaker 2: against Minnesota on that screen, So he's in for for

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Speaker 2: half of that game, or maybe a little bit less

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Speaker 2: than half of that game. He's still the second leading

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Speaker 2: receiver on this team, Like you're talking about two and

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Speaker 2: a half games, and he is still the second leading

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Speaker 2: He's still the second leading receiver. They've played two and

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Speaker 2: a half games without him. You know, they have not

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Speaker 2: overcome that injury, not even close. And so I think speaking,

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Speaker 2: you know, just kind of picking up off off you know,

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Speaker 2: your observations there one Justin had to do a better

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Speaker 2: job of incorporating Austin Eckler. They just there's two guys too.

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Speaker 2: And so I'm sort of and this is something I

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Speaker 2: think people have learned about me and all the years

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Speaker 2: we've done this is I can be a bit of

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Speaker 2: a hypocrite and contradict myself. Leaked the week.

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Speaker 1: It's just how it works.

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Speaker 2: But you know, so I get on Quintin after the

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Speaker 2: last after the Raider game for dropping that third down

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Speaker 2: pass and say, you've got to be better, you got

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Speaker 2: to get your hands. Well, you know what, Justin's got

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Speaker 2: to target him. It's getting ridiculous. It's just ridiculous that

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Speaker 2: the fact that Justin had as many targets and one

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Speaker 2: more reception Justin Herbert had one more reception than Quinton Johnston.

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Speaker 2: him a pass, get him on those TCU specials, those

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Speaker 2: Give him some confidence, let him be involved. Stop having

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Speaker 2: just like to me, Chris to to kind of put

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Speaker 2: you got a second and two, Where's Eckler? Where's Eckler? Instead?

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Speaker 1: these games are between Herbert Mahomes, but it always seems

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Speaker 1: like Mahomes always has the upper hand in the end.

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Speaker 1: I expect the Chargers to bring out the kitchen sink

429
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Speaker 1: in a game they have to have.

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Speaker 2: You know, we were talking about durn a little bit

431
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Speaker 2: earlier and like to me and this is something that

432
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Speaker 2: I would have liked to have seen in the Cowboys game.

433
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Speaker 2: There were a hand full of reps where it was

434
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Speaker 2: for a window of time like at first Mikey got

435
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Speaker 2: torched by Ceedee Lamb because he was playing ten yards

436
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 2: off of him. Right. Well, then coach Daley makes the adjustment.

437
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 2: Mikey starts playing in press, and he starts roughing CD

438
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 2: up a little bit, and nothing's happening for a stretch

439
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 2: of time, and Mikey is traveling with him, but he's

440
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 2: not traveling with him when he settles into the slot. Like,

441
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 2: Mikey's only on Ceed Lamb when he's on the outside.

442
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 2: And so now all of a sudden, Ceed's in the

443
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Speaker 2: slot just her Taylor's on him, and he's playing ten

444
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 2: yards off of him, and that's where all of his

445
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Speaker 2: catches come from. The point I'm getting to is I

446
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 2: would love to just see coach say, hey, Derwin, you

447
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 2: got one assignment today. It's Travis Kelcey. And if he's

448
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Speaker 2: not on the field, check with me. I'll tell you

449
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 2: what we're doing. You know, check with Kenneth. He'll tell

450
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 2: you what you're doing. Otherwise you go where eighty seven goes.

451
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 2: That is all you're doing. Because we know Derwin can

452
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Speaker 2: rough him up, body slam him, he can beat him.

453
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Speaker 2: Do you know. Now, Look, Travis Kelsey's one of the

454
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Speaker 2: best players in NFL history at his position. So he's

455
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Speaker 2: gotten the upper hand a handful of times, but so

456
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Speaker 2: is Derwin, and that to me is like such a

457
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Speaker 2: great opportunity to get Derwin back on track this season.

458
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Speaker 2: To simplify, simplify, you know that there was a CD

459
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Speaker 2: lamp play. I think it was a third and twelve

460
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 2: and you got just Seer ten yards off him and

461
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 2: by the time the ball is snapped, when Seed starts

462
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 2: his route, he's now five yards behind the sticks and

463
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 2: it's just kind of one of those head scratches. But

464
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 2: there's also a trio of players when you go back

465
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Speaker 2: and watch that play, Kendrick's, Kenneth and Derwin and they're

466
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Speaker 2: just standing on the opposite side of the field, like

467
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Speaker 2: looking at Michael Gallup or something. And I think there's

468
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Speaker 2: those moments because this defense is asks so much and

469
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: demands so much of players, particularly those linebackers in coverage

470
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Speaker 2: and the safeties and am my handing off and my

471
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Speaker 2: follow what are we? You know that I would love

472
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Speaker 2: to just see it simplified. You know, Derwin, you got

473
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Speaker 2: eighty seven, You're one of the best players in the league.

474
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Speaker 2: It's gonna be you know, you guys get to have

475
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Speaker 2: a street fight with one another. Congratulations, I know you

476
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Speaker 2: love it. Let's go get it. Like that's what I

477
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Speaker 2: hope I see. I would love for that to be

478
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Speaker 2: the case in this game, because you mentioned it, Chris.

479
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Speaker 2: Their defense is really good, it's really good. Their offense

480
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Speaker 2: is not played well. That's you know, it's just it

481
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Speaker 2: has not played well. It's been a lot of Pacheco.

482
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Speaker 2: He's you know, I think Mahomes is still searching for someone,

483
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Speaker 2: anyone beyond Travis Kelcey to be that receiver that he

484
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Speaker 2: can trust. And it's just one game. It's like, maybe

485
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Speaker 2: it's Cadarious to No, it's not, okay, sky Moore, Yeah no,

486
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Speaker 2: it's not you. Sky Moore. You drop three passes in

487
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Speaker 2: this one and a touchdown. Okay, it's not you. Marquezvel Discant, Nope,

488
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Speaker 2: you're not getting but maybe two targets a game she Rice? Okay,

489
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Speaker 2: maybe not you not you know what I mean? So

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Speaker 2: take advantage of that, man. Do not for Tyreek kill

491
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Speaker 2: week one? Uh you know, Week two was just weird, right,

492
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Speaker 2: They just gave up those explosives and that's how they

493
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Speaker 2: ended up losing that game. Week three, justin Jefferson goes

494
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Speaker 2: for one hundred and fifty Week four, Devonte Adams goes

495
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Speaker 2: for what it was over one hundred yards, right, and

496
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Speaker 2: now in the fifth game, you've got Ceede Lamb going

497
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Speaker 2: for one seventeen. Anyone but Travis Kelcey. I know that's

498
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Speaker 2: easy to say, but let's just try to make it

499
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Speaker 2: anyone but Travis Kelcey. That gets you. If it's Rice

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Speaker 2: and Tony combined for one hundred and ninety yards and

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Speaker 2: two touchdowns, congratulations, Congratulations Chiefs, you found your receivers. I

502
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Speaker 2: just would would love for it to not be eighty

503
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Speaker 2: seven that goes for one to sixty and three touchdowns.

504
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Speaker 2: And I think if you just stick to went on

505
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Speaker 2: him like a dog, just like, hey, dude, go get them,

506
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Speaker 2: that's I would love it. Because, man, those matchups have

507
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Speaker 2: been so fun in the past. And it's why as

508
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Speaker 2: I'm looking at it, Chris, let's look at the games.

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Speaker 2: Thirty twenty seven Chiefs twenty seven to twenty four, Chiefs

510
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: thirty to twenty four, Chargers win thirty four to twenty eight,

511
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Speaker 2: Chiefs twenty three to twenty Chiefs in overtime. Like that's

512
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Speaker 2: how tight these games are. You know why? Because Derwin's

513
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Speaker 2: been able to do it for the most part. You know,

514
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 2: he's been good with Kelsey, so I would just I

515
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Speaker 2: would love to see that be the case again this week.

516
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Speaker 1: And it's simple, like you said, simplify this thing for

517
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Speaker 1: Derwin and we know that that's the best matchup that

518
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Speaker 1: they have is Drwin on Kelsey. Defensively, though, when you're

519
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Speaker 1: allowing just fourteen points a game, I think it's fourteen

520
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Speaker 1: points six points per game. They gave a twenty one

521
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Speaker 1: to the Lins week one without Chris Shoon. Since then,

522
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Speaker 1: the Jags scored nine points on him, the Bear scored ten,

523
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Speaker 1: the Jets scored twenty, the Vikings scored twenty, and the

524
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Speaker 1: Broncos scored eight. So that's almost almost a bigger matchup

525
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Speaker 1: for me. Is Chris Jones up the middle on Will clapping,

526
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Speaker 1: those guards pressure and Justin Herbert and how quickly a

527
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Speaker 1: Justin can get the ball out of his hands and

528
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Speaker 1: be how effective they can be running the football. Because

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Speaker 1: I just it wasn't great. It wasn't great on Monday night,

530
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Speaker 1: and to have a short week. I think the silver

531
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Speaker 1: lining is, you know this team money, like Justin knows

532
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, The Chiefs know the Chargers, like these Division

533
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Speaker 1: games are always going to be close because of that,

534
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: But now it just it ratchets up the urgency in

535
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Speaker 1: the season right now, because you have to know the

536
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: situation right. You have to know that you're two and

537
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Speaker 1: three with a game against the Chiefs that could be

538
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: the ultimate separator in the division. As you move forward

539
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: and you no longer have your sights set on winning

540
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: the AFC West, you're just fighting for a wildcard spot

541
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Speaker 1: with a host of other teams like you don't want

542
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: the Chiefs to wrap this thing up in mid to

543
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Speaker 1: late October. And that's what's kind of on the line Sunday,

544
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Speaker 1: because I tell you this, if they go to six

545
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: and one and you're two and four, ain't happening. It

546
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: ain't happening, right. So how do they get up after

547
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: a difficult loss on Monday night, another close loss? They've

548
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: had a ton of close losses. How do you get

549
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: up for this game on a short week and give

550
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: the Chiefs everything they can handle in an effort to

551
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Speaker 1: really save your season.

552
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Speaker 2: Well, I think you know, there's a few things that

553
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: have to happen in order for them to get to

554
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: win one. Zion Johnson's got to be better, you know,

555
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: he's really struggled so far. You know, there's a lot

556
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Speaker 2: of pressure coming through him. Right now. Rashawn Slater does

557
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: not look right. We talked about it coming out of

558
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: the Raider game with the ankle. It looks like that's

559
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,959
Speaker 2: still bothering him. And that's a big issue because before

560
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 2: that thing is, you can stamp that thing paid. He

561
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: ain't nobody getting through Rashawn Slater. And that's not been

562
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 2: the case now since that, since he got bent backwards

563
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: in that Raiders game. It flipped like a switch. And

564
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Speaker 2: so I'm hoping maybe one more week. I hope he's

565
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: all right, but it clear that he's just not the same.

566
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Speaker 2: You know, he doesn't get pushed around like he got

567
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: pushed around in the Dallas game. You know, de Marcus

568
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: Lawrence was able to kind of put him on skates

569
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 2: a couple times. And we have never seen that. I

570
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 2: mean literally never. I have never seen Rashaan Slater on skates.

571
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 2: So that's of concern. When you're talking about the best

572
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: interior rusher save Aaron Donald, in the league. That's going

573
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 2: to be a problem because I guarantee they know what

574
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Speaker 2: they're looking at, and it's will and by the way.

575
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: We'll clap tweaked something in that game too. So now

576
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: you've got a bit of a leaky Zion Johnson bad

577
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Speaker 2: ankle on Slater and you know, a backup center that's

578
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: that's dealing with an injury. That's gonna be tough. So

579
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Speaker 2: they're gonna have to game plan for that and assume

580
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 2: that that pressure is gonna be coming up quick up

581
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Speaker 2: the middle, So they've got to figure out how they're

582
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Speaker 2: going to block it up and which way he's booting

583
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: out and you're just gonna have to cut the field

584
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 2: in half. And I think so much of that is

585
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: going to be getting creative with Eckler. You know, their

586
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 2: linebackers are very athletic and fast. Bolton Gay, those guys

587
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: are quick, they can fly all over the field. They're safe,

588
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: these are good, they're young secondary players. McDuffie, I think

589
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: is a star. So that's you know, that's that's a concern.

590
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: It's gonna be tough. I think to get the running

591
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: game going with again, and I think that's a big

592
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: thing that came out of the Cowboys game is just

593
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: they couldn't get push because Rashawn couldn't get pushed like

594
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: he usually does. I think there's that's a major issue

595
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: that's not being talked about. You know, normally he is

596
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: cleaning his guy out, and that is one thing that

597
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: that Zion is good at is he's just so strong.

598
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: As you know, when you combine he and Rashaan, they're

599
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: able to get big push and now you're running the ball,

600
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: and that just was not the case. They were on

601
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 2: their heels the whole game. So that's a concern offensive

602
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: against the Chiefs offense. You know, you just you've got

603
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: to get the turnovers when they're there, because they're going

604
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 2: to be there. You know, it happens every game. Mahomes

605
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: puts it up for grabs a couple times and you've

606
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: got to be able to secure them. So it ain't

607
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: look it's not going to be easy. They're essentially coming

608
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: off a bye. When you consider the Chargers are on

609
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: six days plus a travel day and the Chiefs are

610
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: on the Mini bi from Thursday, it's going to be

611
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 2: a very tough game. But the Chargers have played to

612
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: like it's try it like there's a few things to

613
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: get to here. One like, think about how they've played right.

614
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: They needed to score the ball against Miami and Minnesota,

615
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: and what do they do? They score the ball, what

616
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: does the defense do? Gives up a ton of yards

617
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: and points. They needed to get into a rock fight

618
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: with Tennessee and Dallas because of how stout and good

619
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 2: their defenses are and how much they want to grind

620
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: possessions out. What do they do. They get into a

621
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: rock fight, they grind it out and they lose by

622
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: a field goal. And then the Raider game was just

623
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: you are dominating this team in the first half, and

624
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: you allow them to creep back in, like and it's

625
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: a team that you're much better than, much better than

626
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 2: the Raiders, and they just allowed them to creep back in.

627
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 2: So that's the one encouraging thing. I know it sounds

628
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 2: like a negative, but what I'm getting at is this

629
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: team's going to be in every game, like for whatever reason,

630
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: they have this resilience where they're able to not get

631
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 2: blown out and stay in games and keep them in

632
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 2: the balance and give themselves an opportunity. You need to

633
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: start cashing those opportunities in you know, Minnesota and Vegas,

634
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 2: they were able to just hang on by their fingernails

635
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: right and win the game and get those interceptions late.

636
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: You know, that the Tennessee game, they should have that

637
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: they're so much better than that team. Like that's the

638
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: one that I'm afraid is gonna haunt us. Like it's

639
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 2: just they got no business losing that game. They should

640
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: be three and two. You know, I think that's fair.

641
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: You know, the Miami game, they had a lead in

642
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, the defense gave it up early on

643
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: that Tyreek Hill play on a third and long, you know,

644
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: where some reason just her Taylor is singled up against them,

645
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: that scores the game when he touched down, you know.

646
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: Plus the Jackson played before halftime. Man, I mean there

647
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: was Again, it's a lot of these a lot of

648
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: these things that are controlled, and I think that's that's

649
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: what they have to really strap up on, is the controllables,

650
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: the fifteen yard penalties, giving up huge plays on third

651
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: and long, things that you can control, misstackles, like you

652
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: have to be perfect against the Kansas City Chiefs, and

653
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: that's what they have to bring on Sunday. Offensively, You're right,

654
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: since Mike has gone down, you know, save for that

655
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: fifty one yard Darius Davis played in the first half

656
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: of that Raiders game, and you know, they got a

657
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: little juice after the Jerry Tillery scuffle. Second half. They

658
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: didn't do anything after that. That one play in the

659
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: first quarter or that one driver rather than the first

660
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: quarter against the Cowboys, didn't do much of anything. So

661
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: you have to establish what your identity is going to

662
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: be moving forward offensively, and Quentin Johnson has to be

663
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: a part of that in some former fashion. I one

664
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 1: hundred percent agree with you. Get him something going early,

665
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: get him some get the rookie, the first round rookie,

666
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: some confidence. By any means, he's right.

667
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 2: I think he's eighteenth, Chris, I think he is eighteenth.

668
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 2: In rookie receiver receiving yards. There are seventeen rookies that

669
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 2: have more receiving yards than the number two receiver picked

670
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 2: in the draft. Zay Flowers has like thirty something catches.

671
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 2: Jordan Addison is a force. He's a force. He's a

672
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 2: legitimate potential number one receiver, you know.

673
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's showing it with Jefferson out now.

674
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I mean. Like, you know again, you

675
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 2: keep telling us that, oh, it's a draft pick for

676
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: the future for this team. Mike Williams is down. He's

677
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: not a draft pick for the future.

678
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: Mike, not with this quarterback money, not with this quarterback, right,

679
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: Like if you have a top fouts, everyone says to

680
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert's a top five quarterback, right, and you could

681
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 1: argue it, and I'd agree he is a top five quarterback,

682
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: top seven quarterback. Whatever. Your first round wide receiver's got

683
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 1: to make place with the top five quarterback.

684
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: Whole pick for the future doesn't work for me. That

685
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 2: does not work for me, Not for a guy that

686
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: was in the college football playoff and the championship game, like,

687
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: that doesn't work for me. I'm sorry, it just doesn't.

688
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: You guys are too ready to play when they come

689
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: into the league. You know, Pooka Nikua a fifth round pick.

690
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: Pooka Nakua is a fifth round pick, and he is

691
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 2: lighting the league up that It's just it's not. It's

692
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 2: not basketball where you're drafting these kids who are still

693
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 2: eighteen years old, or baseball where you're drafting high school

694
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: kids that are eighteen years old and need to mature

695
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: and grow into their body. That's football. These dudes are

696
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, twenty two years old, you know, they're

697
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: already men. Like, future does not work for me. Not

698
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 2: when Mike Williams goes down and you know, and to me,

699
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 2: like the thing that I that I that I truly

700
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: worry about is this is someone who came in with

701
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: shaky confidence in his hands. You know where he just

702
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,479
Speaker 2: you can see it. It's called gathering. When you see

703
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: receivers that aren't running through the catch and continue to go,

704
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 2: they will slow down, they'll gather, catch it and then

705
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 2: they'll pick it back up and go. And that's what

706
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: Quinton did at TCU a lot. He didn't run through

707
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 2: the catch. He would lock on the ball, slow down,

708
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 2: secure it, and then get going again. So you've already

709
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: got someone who's got confidence issues in his past. I

710
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 2: can't even imagine what's going through his head now. You know,

711
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: I'm on the field for how many snaps and I

712
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 2: don't even get looked at except for twice when the

713
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 2: quarterback is in dire straits and just has to get

714
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 2: rid of the ball. And that's the only time he

715
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: was targeted on those two plays is when everything completely

716
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: broke down and Herbert had to get rid of the ball.

717
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: That is not good for a young receiver who needs

718
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 2: to get some sort of positive re enforcement that he

719
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 2: belongs in this league that because you know, I can

720
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: only imagine what if he's on social media, what that

721
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: looks like. That can't be pretty if he's in his

722
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: own mentions, Like hopefully he's not, because I can promise

723
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: you it don't look good. So like, just get him

724
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,479
Speaker 2: one quick slant, get him a quick post, and throw

725
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 2: him the ball and if he drops it, then okay.

726
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 2: But you cannot go through a game where you do

727
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: not target him at all. That can't happen or he

728
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: can't be on the field.

729
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what, it's five games in is

730
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: way too early to make a determination on any player, right,

731
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: So to your point, get him some confidence and play

732
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: through some of these mistakes potentially, And like, we don't

733
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: know the whole picture. I'm out of practice. I don't

734
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: I don't have the entire picture. I know that I

735
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 1: was with you a training camp and I saw him

736
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: make some spectacular plays in camp. You know, we saw potential.

737
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: A lot of people are saying, hey, man, look out

738
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: for Quentin Johnston. So I know that they drafted him

739
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: as the second overall wide receiver for a reason for

740
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 1: his production at TCU and what they thought he could

741
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: look like in this Kellen Moore offense. So coming off

742
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: a bye, I think that's why you're scratching your head.

743
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, you have two weeks to prepare. You know,

744
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: Mike Williams is not in the lineup. Find a way

745
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: to get this kid some confidence, get him involved in

746
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: the game beyond just two targets. And there should be

747
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: no excuse that he has zero catches for zero yards.

748
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: So whatever it takes on Sunday to try to get

749
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: him some confidence and make a play, maybe that one play,

750
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: maybe that first catch for eight yards and then the

751
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 1: second catch, you can do something with him for fifteen yards,

752
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: and that just kind of snowballs the confidence. I don't

753
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 1: know what it is, but I know that he needs

754
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: to be involved because the Chargers don't have a choice,

755
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: right especially with Joshua Palmer money. We're taping this early too,

756
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 1: so you know, you guys have to check the injury

757
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: report as we get closer to Sunday. You know, Joshua

758
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: was a late ad with a groin injury, you know,

759
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: so we don't know, you know, yeah, we don't know

760
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: defensively what it's going to look like with some of

761
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 1: the injuries that happened throughout the course of that game.

762
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: But I do know this, if they want to win

763
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: and they want to score points, you got to utilize everybody.

764
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 1: And that's why again with Darius Davis too, I thought, okay,

765
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: since Mike is down, they're gonna have some some stuff

766
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: for Darius because he's showed some flash on offense. So

767
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: both TCU guys, both rookie TCU receivers, I think, have

768
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: to have some sort of impact in this game.

769
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: There's just not enough production anywhere else, you know, that's

770
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 2: the that's the big issue. So and again it's because

771
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 2: you want the defense to commit resources that you can't

772
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 2: allow them to play eleven on ten. If Quinton's going

773
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 2: to be to take the top off the defense guy

774
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 2: and he's constantly running nine routes in a safety's not

775
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 2: traveling with him, well then you've got to throw them

776
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: the ball. You've got to throw him the ball on

777
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: one of those just to now force Spagnolo to be like, okay,

778
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 2: I gotta be we got burned. We got burned. Yep.

779
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: I left him in one on one. They've been on

780
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 2: a post and he got inside leverage and he took

781
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 2: it for forty yards. Now I have got to pay

782
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: attention because he's not going to unless unless you throw

783
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 2: them the ball, like you have to target him. There's

784
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 2: no reason to have him out there and money.

785
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: This is what serious. I'm sorry, this is just what's

786
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: so concerning to me is that Mike, Mike Williams was

787
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 1: a Chief killer, like he showed up every single game

788
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: against Kansas City Chiefs. Now that you don't have him, right,

789
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: Chiefs know all about Keenan Allen, right, they know what

790
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 1: they have to do to try to limit Keenan Allen's production.

791
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be on Austin, it's gonna be on

792
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: some of these young guys, it's going to be on Palmer,

793
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 1: who actually had a good game against Kansas City last year.

794
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: But not having Mike in this specific game, knowing what

795
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: he's done all the way from that that two point

796
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: conversion with one of my favorite calls from you to

797
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: just throughout the course of his career against Kansas City,

798
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: you don't have that on Sunday, and you're gonna have

799
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: to adjust.

800
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 2: Or it's gonna have to again, like to your point

801
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: with Darius Davis, you have to get creative because just

802
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: traditional methods aren't working. The players are covered. Keenan's bracketed,

803
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 2: Josh Palmer gets bracketed. They're every that they have faced

804
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 2: more heavy boxes than any other team in the league.

805
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 2: And this was supposed to be explosives. And I know

806
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 2: without Mike Williams it makes it a lot harder. But

807
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: you've got to find ways to scheme that up. You're

808
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 2: gonna have to hit the the waiver wire. Outside of

809
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: of giving a ridiculous quote to somebody at the athletic

810
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 2: SIMI Fajoko's got a play, I guess you know, if

811
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 2: you're going to pick them up and put them on

812
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 2: the active roster, get them out there so and I'd

813
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: prefer see me moving forward. Let's not talk about your

814
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: coach putting one hundred on the Cowboys if you're not

815
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: even out there to run any routes. Just probably not

816
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: the best quote to throw out there for them to

817
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 2: pick up on. But like, this is a very talented team,

818
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: it just is a It's a team that is way

819
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: too talented to be two and four. I'm sorry, I

820
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 2: know the Dolphins are talented. Again, the Tennessee game is

821
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: gonna stick with us. That's two the Cowboys game. The

822
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: defense did enough to shut down a team that had

823
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: averaged twenty eight points per game. They held them to

824
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: twenty and the offense did not do their job. And

825
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 2: you know it's it's you're staring at a Chiefs team

826
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: that's probably the best team in the AFC. And the

827
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 2: one thing, look, I don't want it to be too

828
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: negative of a of a pod when there's wins. So

829
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: we were talking about this after the game. DJ and I.

830
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: It's like, so, okay, you lose to Kansas City, you're

831
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: two and four. Well, now your next two games are

832
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 2: Chicago and the Jets. Jets defense is really good, offense

833
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: is terrible, Chicago is terrible all around.

834
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: So without just.

835
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:05,479
Speaker 2: Things work hewh yeah, things work out. You're talking about

836
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 2: four and four. This is a team that was six

837
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 2: and six last year and was able to rip off

838
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 2: four straight to get to ten. So after that, you

839
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 2: have a very good Detroit team that's coming to town

840
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 2: that I would say, on paper you would favor over

841
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: the Chargers. But at least it's a home game. They've

842
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: got to travel the two time zones to get here.

843
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:26,479
Speaker 2: After that, Green Bay on the road, not worried about them,

844
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 2: Baltimore at home again. Not worried about them. Their defense

845
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 2: has not been great, their offense has not been great.

846
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: Then you get New England, Denver, Vegas like it's set

847
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 2: up like last year, where as much doom and gloom

848
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: as perhaps we're painting on this, it lays out alright,

849
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: very similarly to last year. And then let's say they lose.

850
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 2: Let's say worst case scenario, they lose this game to

851
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, Well, they play the Chiefs in week eighteen.

852
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 2: I think they're going to be playing guys. No, they're

853
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: gonna have the division locked up, They're gonna probably have

854
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 2: the number one seed locked up, and they very well

855
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 2: could be resting guys and you can chalk that up

856
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 2: as a win. So the path to ten and into

857
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 2: the wild card is there. It's there for them. But

858
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 2: I don't think any of those teams are looking at

859
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 2: the Charger game and going, ooh, we gotta play them,

860
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 2: like that's the thing. They've got to write their own

861
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 2: ship on paper. They are more talented than those teams

862
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 2: that I am listing. Two games against Denver, one more

863
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 2: against the Raiders, New England, Green Bay, Chicago, New York.

864
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 2: There's nine wins. They got two right now, That is

865
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 2: nine wins right there. Nine and eight, I think is

866
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: gonna get you a wildcard. Now it'll come down to

867
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: some tie breakers and stuff, but nine and eight should

868
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: get you a wildcard. Ten and seven definitely gets you

869
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: in the tournament. So it's still there for them to

870
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: take even if they lose this game.

871
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: This is the thing, money, it's it's not even really

872
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: doom and gloom. It's it's I think it's just frustration

873
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: because you're two and three and you had a chance

874
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: to win all three of those games right in the

875
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: very last drive. I mean the J. C. Jackson penalty

876
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: was the difference in my opinion. I know that happened

877
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: earlier in the game, but you know what, you lose,

878
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: You lose by two and they kick a field goal

879
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: before halftime. You know, give credit to Miami. They're explosive.

880
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: You said it. The Tennessee game should have never happened.

881
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: Those explosive should have never happened. But Justin had an

882
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: opportunity to win that game late in the offense they

883
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: against the Titans. You know, you can argue about Minnesota

884
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: and Vegas frankly, I mean they both come down. Every

885
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: game has come down to the wire, but again justin

886
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: another opportunity late in the game to tie it or

887
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 1: win it in the fourth quarter. So every single game

888
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: they have been in, so it's not dooming gloom to

889
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: a point where you're losing by fourteen or twenty one.

890
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: It's just frustration that like you're in these games you

891
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: have you have the potential to live up to this

892
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: potential that I think everybody has placed on you to

893
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: be a five to one team like the Chiefs to be,

894
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: you know, three or four and one at this point

895
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: instead of two and three staring at two and four potentially.

896
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 1: But I'll say this, I don't know what's gonna happen

897
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: on Sunday, but I know that the Chargers always play

898
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,919
Speaker 1: the Chiefs close, and I know that they're gonna they're

899
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: gonna empty everything out, and I wouldn't be surprised if

900
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: they won the game and get the three because of

901
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: the way that they've played this team. Because it's a

902
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: division game. You have everything that's saying it's not gonna happen, right.

903
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: You have these key injuries offensively, you have a short week.

904
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: The Chiefs have had your number, But every single time

905
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: they go to Arrowhead, it comes down to the end

906
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: and maybe the fortunes flipped this time.

907
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 2: So just a couple more numbers to as we kind

908
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 2: of get out of here right to get you a

909
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 2: little excited, a little positive. So Kansas City put up

910
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 2: forty one on the Bears. Take that out because when

911
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 2: you look look at their points per game average, it's

912
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: gonna skew it. There are other five games they're averaging

913
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 2: twenty one per game. Now the defense is given up

914
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 2: just fifteen. But we talked about how good their defense is,

915
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 2: but this formerly high octane Patrick Mahomes led Chiefs offense

916
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 2: is not there this year. It's one game where they

917
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 2: put up forty one. Everything else they are averaging twenty

918
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 2: one per game the last three games. Look the Chargers

919
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 2: defense five sacks, six tackles for loss, a special team's

920
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: turnover against the Cowboys. Their last three games fifteen sacks,

921
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 2: six turnovers, So the defense is at least creating opportunities.

922
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 2: They're still giving up a little bit too much in

923
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: the explosive category, but fifteen sacks, six turnovers, So that's

924
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 2: there's it's there, you know, And justin Herbert against the

925
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: Chiefs and a lot of these are against very similar,

926
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: if not the same personnel in his career sixty eight percent,

927
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 2: two ninety one per game, fifteen touchdowns, four interceptions, a

928
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 2: one oh seven point three rating. He plays them well.

929
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 2: He plays the Spagnolo defense well, so if he wants

930
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 2: it's a it's a very good defense, don't get me right.

931
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 2: It's very good, very talented, a lot better than the

932
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 2: Minnesota defense that Brian Floor has decided to blitz seventy

933
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: percent of the time, but or if not more, I

934
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 2: think he's eighty percent of the time. But he plays

935
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 2: them well. He plays them well, and hopefully everybody's healthy

936
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 2: enough to stay consistent with those numbers I just rattled off.

937
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 2: In a lot of it comes down to personnel and

938
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 2: who's playing, and who's heard, and how hurt are they

939
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 2: things like that. But if history is our guide, they,

940
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 2: like you said, play this team better than anybody else

941
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: in the division and almost anybody else maybe save Cincinnati

942
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 2: in the league.

943
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: The final thing for you, you're one key to the game.

944
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: Mine is just very simple, and you could you could

945
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: point to six or seven different things, but I think

946
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: the self inflicted mistakes, the fifteen yard penalties, the mistackles

947
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,919
Speaker 1: things that you can control. You can't afford to make

948
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: those mistakes against the Kansas City Chiefs because they'll kill you,

949
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: you know. So if I had to just say one thing,

950
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: eliminate the third and nineteen conversion that the other team

951
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: gets on you. Eliminate the fifteen yard penalties. Please tackle

952
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: every play, sixty four snaps. Every snap counts last week,

953
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 1: you know, and again it comes down to one play

954
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: being the difference in my opinion, Tony Pollock play that

955
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: led to the touchdown. So every snap counts. Don't do

956
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: anything that's going to be self inflicted because you're not

957
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: going to beat the Chiefs that way.

958
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 2: I do. I didn't mention it when you said it early,

959
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 2: So I'll just add this just huge chip of the

960
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: cap to a Sante Samuel for saving a touchdown on

961
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 2: that I thought it was going you should have scored,

962
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 2: and like just because he had to shake off a

963
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 2: block or two, he had another cowboy in front of

964
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 2: them to get passed and kind of elbow passed in

965
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 2: order to get there. So that's just a huge hustle

966
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 2: play and a great exhibition of determination and not giving

967
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 2: up the easy score by Assante credit him there. In

968
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 2: terms of keys to the game, I'm gonna put it

969
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 2: on I'm really gonna put it on one person, Chris.

970
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 2: I think this is a Herbert game. This has got

971
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 2: to be a Herbert game. He's got to do what

972
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 2: I just rattled off. He's got to do the three

973
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 2: hundred yards, three touchdowns, no interceptions type of game. To me,

974
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 2: that's what this is going to take. I based on

975
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 2: how the Chiefs offenses looked and just the defensive line,

976
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 2: Tully's emergence. Every one of those five sacks, at least

977
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 2: three of them I can think of. We got to

978
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 2: come up with the hockey assist for sacks for Tully

979
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: because he's they're his sacks. The Khalil Max sack was his.

980
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 2: He pushed Dak right into Khalil for the sack. The

981
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 2: Morgan Fox sack, same thing, he pushed him right into

982
00:51:58,600 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 2: Morgan Fox.

983
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 1: The John Stockton of he's a John of.

984
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 2: That travels like that's going to travel. Their offensive line

985
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 2: is not good, so that's gonna travel. It's this is

986
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 2: a Herbert game. He had a bad game against the Cowboys,

987
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 2: had a bet for being honest, He's had a bad

988
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 2: six quarters, that the second half against the Raiders was bad,

989
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 2: the entire game against the Cowboys was not good. So

990
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 2: let's let's get You know, someone that's in the conversation

991
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 2: is the most talented quarterback in the league, back back

992
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 2: to right, as long as he's healthy, which I think

993
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 2: he is, save the finger, which shouldn't affect throwing the

994
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 2: ball and hitting Keenan when when Kellen Moore dials it

995
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 2: up for two huge plays that really could have shifted

996
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 2: the balance of that game. So that's that's where I'm locked.

997
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 2: I think it's number ten.

998
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, similar to the Minnesota game. The Minnesota game was

999
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: a Herbert game. You knew it. You knew it because

1000
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: Cousins was on the other side and they had the

1001
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: explosive offense and Justin was locked in from from the

1002
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 1: jump in that game. And you're right, money, it's gonna

1003
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: hinge on the quarterback and in the quarterback getting everybody involved.

1004
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 1: And we talked about the TCU guys, Joshua, Keenan, Jerald, everybody,

1005
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: Austin especially, Like you said, like, now that Austin is

1006
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: back and he has a game under his belt, let's

1007
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 1: let's let's lean on Austin a little bit more because

1008
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: this offense has too. Frankly, so I'm with you. Justin

1009
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: Herbert game and again, I think every single game has

1010
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: been a possession in the fourth quarter separating Mahomes at Herbert,

1011
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: and unfortunately for the Chargers, Mahomes has come up on

1012
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: the right end of things. We'll see if that changes

1013
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: on Sunday. So Hey, it's tough when they lose, because

1014
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: I know people are frustrated, But the good news is

1015
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: that when you have ten, you're gonna be in every game.

1016
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: Like again, he may have had one of his worst

1017
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: games of his career and they still lose by three.

1018
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 2: So let's see if i can just get it out

1019
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 2: on this one. I'm gonna go back to twenty twenty one.

1020
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 2: The Chargers are one and one. Herbert goes into Kansas

1021
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 2: City twenty six for thirty eight two eighty one four touchdowns,

1022
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,919
Speaker 2: and they win thirty to twenty four. That's what we need.

1023
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 2: Ends up scoring seventeen points in the fourth quarter. Williams

1024
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,399
Speaker 2: twenty yards from Herbert, Williams four yards from Herbert, and

1025
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 2: a Tristan Viscayano. I think he's a servite friar. I

1026
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 2: believe that's what he was. Field goal in there, and

1027
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 2: they knock him off after trailing twenty four to twenty one,

1028
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 2: with six and a half minutes left, they knock him

1029
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 2: off thirty to twenty four. Let's let's get that. That's it.

1030
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: Well in there, guys. Always appreciate you watching and listening,

1031
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: whether it's in your car on YouTube from Matt money

1032
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: Smith us. Heyry, we'll see you next week. Hopefully the

1033
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 1: Chargers will be three and three h