WEBVTT - Breaking Down the Big Week 11 Games

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<v Speaker 1>And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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<v Speaker 2>What's up, everybody? Welcome to Move the Sticks. DJ Bucky

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<v Speaker 2>ret with you on a recap Monday here, coming off

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<v Speaker 2>a short night for me, Chargers home game, night game,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of traffic. Apparently we had the triple header

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<v Speaker 2>with be was Clippers concert Chargers night game. So Inglewood

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<v Speaker 2>was a little congested getting out of there last night.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh don't know who was.

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<v Speaker 3>In the concert.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, everybody stayed to the end. Everybody stayed in. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a great atmosphere. Yeah, I bet. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>Jason's in my ear telling me it's Sabrina Carpenter was

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<v Speaker 2>at the was A the LA Forum. So the KIA

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<v Speaker 2>form is that what it is? Now? I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>it's ah might I think it is?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think it's the key.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, packed house. We're gonna get to that game. That

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<v Speaker 2>second on the list. Today, we're going to start with

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<v Speaker 2>what was, you know, literally one of the best matchups

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<v Speaker 2>in the regular season we've seen in the last half

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<v Speaker 2>dozen years. If you look at where Kansas City was

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<v Speaker 2>coming into this game at Buffalo, a game that felt

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<v Speaker 2>man Buffalo had to have this for a whole host

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<v Speaker 2>of reasons, but just to know that this collision is

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<v Speaker 2>coming again into the future. Fascinating game there, Buck, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>give you the first word on this one on what

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<v Speaker 2>your takeaway.

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<v Speaker 1>Was, Look big time, and I'll say we've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Allen playing at a high level before, but this

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<v Speaker 1>was big time, a big time performance for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I won't do like the overreaction Monday where everyone is like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, he's overtaken Pat Mahomes is the best

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<v Speaker 1>player in the league in those things. But what I

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<v Speaker 1>will say is the Pat Mahome experiment that the Buffalo

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<v Speaker 1>Bills decided to use, meaning take away some of the

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<v Speaker 1>notable names, make it maybe a little more comedye on

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<v Speaker 1>the perimeter, It has allowed him to really be the

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<v Speaker 1>best version of himself. We're seeing Josh Allen do things

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<v Speaker 1>that we've seen before, but he's doing it in a

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<v Speaker 1>more controlled manner. The running, the passing, utilizing all of

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<v Speaker 1>the weapons, managing the game, all of that shows significant

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<v Speaker 1>growth and maturity in his game, where he certainly is

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<v Speaker 1>deserving of being in the conversation as MVP because he's

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<v Speaker 1>playing that well.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think, Look, I don't think it's hyperbole to

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<v Speaker 5>say that Josh Allen was the more dangerous player in

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<v Speaker 5>this game. When you look at the way that the

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<v Speaker 5>Chiefs were still able to get pressure on and twenty

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<v Speaker 5>six pressures.

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<v Speaker 3>On Josh Allen didn't sack him once.

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<v Speaker 5>It just it felt like they were the more explosive team,

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<v Speaker 5>certainly down the field in the past game.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean dominant really in that category of it.

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<v Speaker 5>And for a Chiefs offense that at times has been pedestrian,

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<v Speaker 5>you ran up against the team that had a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of different ways to go at you, and so much

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<v Speaker 5>of that has to do with the number seventeen leading

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<v Speaker 5>the way a quarterback. So I was really a fan

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<v Speaker 5>of the way that Josh Allen played this game, and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, knew when he needed to take off and

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<v Speaker 5>go get yards for his team, like you did hear

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<v Speaker 5>on this incredible touchdown run that was just kind of

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<v Speaker 5>the exclamation point on the whole night for a day

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<v Speaker 5>in which you look, he was better than Patrick Mahomes

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<v Speaker 5>on this day.

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<v Speaker 3>Not to say that he is a better player overall.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm glad we get to see these guys go at

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<v Speaker 5>it each and every year, and I'm excited to see

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<v Speaker 5>him go at it again in the postseason if that

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<v Speaker 5>comes to fruition.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just I want to start on the Allen

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<v Speaker 2>side of things. You just look at his legacy, what

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<v Speaker 2>it looks like if they don't have that miraculously Casey

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<v Speaker 2>comeback with. However many seconds were left on the clock.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh in that playoff game. How differently we view Josh

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<v Speaker 2>Allen And this is literally it is peer. It is

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<v Speaker 2>peers with him and Patrick Mahomes if they're able to

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<v Speaker 2>finish off that game. But you guys talked about the

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<v Speaker 2>athleticism watching the tape on that They were on a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of empty runs with Josh Allen. Some of them

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<v Speaker 2>are scrambled, some of them are designed runs. But man,

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<v Speaker 2>that is deadly. It's like it's like high school football

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<v Speaker 2>where you just gonna spread. You're gonna put your biggest

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<v Speaker 2>best athlete at quarterback. You're gonna spread the field, try

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, get as many defenders away from the

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<v Speaker 2>box as you can and then let him just do

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<v Speaker 2>his thing. That was that was impressive watching that. On

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<v Speaker 2>On the Buffalo side of things, I do want to

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<v Speaker 2>when we get to the Bears game a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>later on, I do want to talk about scrambling quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 2>and how maybe there's some negativity skewed towards Oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we need to play on time, play on schedule. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're scrambling around, then you don't you know, that's not

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<v Speaker 2>why the game's played. I've got some interesting stats on that.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to that when we get to the Bears thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do want to get to the chief side

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<v Speaker 2>of things here. Patrick Mahomes last year sacked twenty seven

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<v Speaker 2>times sixteen games. Patrick Mahomes been sacked twenty two times

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<v Speaker 2>and ten games this year. Only sacked a couple times

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<v Speaker 2>in this ballgame. But this is an offensive line that's

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<v Speaker 2>deteriorating from what they were from as dominant as they

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<v Speaker 2>were when he first got going twenty eighteen, those early

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<v Speaker 2>Chiefs offenses, which we're averaging I want, I believe two

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<v Speaker 2>touchdowns more than this team is averaging. And a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of it we've talked about the weaponry or this, that

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<v Speaker 2>and the other. This offensive line buck is nothing like

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<v Speaker 2>it was early on. Here. The tackles are not good

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<v Speaker 2>and it puts a lot of pressure on him and

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<v Speaker 2>you're not going to have a vertical passing game if

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<v Speaker 2>you can't secure the edges, and that's that's been a big,

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<v Speaker 2>big problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's been a huge problem because you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>they've tried to commit to it. So Wanie Morris playing

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<v Speaker 1>on one side, Juwan Taylor who they paid big money

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<v Speaker 1>for from the Jaguars to.

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<v Speaker 4>Put at the other tackle, like, they have not been

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<v Speaker 4>able to secure the edges.

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<v Speaker 1>The interview three are solid, but the edges that's problematic

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<v Speaker 1>because you're right, DJ, you can't sit in the pocket

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<v Speaker 1>for long and push the ball down the field. He's

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<v Speaker 1>always under pressure and the rest and so he never

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<v Speaker 1>can get comfortable and even though he likes to improvise,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still the big part of Pat Mahomes that played

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<v Speaker 1>really well on schedule and they lose that part of

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<v Speaker 1>the game. And so yeah, it's a big problem going in.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Chiefs are different because they don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>tie end that they can waste by leaving in protection.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't have someone that can say, oh, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>let you chip and do all these other things their

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<v Speaker 1>best when all of the guys are eligible in the route.

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<v Speaker 4>It's something that we know Andy Reid will address.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been exposed and he'll continue to tweak and refine

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<v Speaker 1>how they go about it. But it's a huge issue

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<v Speaker 1>and as to one thing that could keep them from going.

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<v Speaker 4>To making that three pet that some of us are

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<v Speaker 4>pining for.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, it does, in a way feel like where this

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<v Speaker 5>team was when they ran up in the COVID season

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<v Speaker 5>against the Tampa Bay Bucks and lost the Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 5>because the locker Bucks absolutely got after him off the

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<v Speaker 5>edges right and they went and that's when they went

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<v Speaker 5>and made the addition to go get Joan Taylor. And

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<v Speaker 5>then they went and made the addition to go get

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<v Speaker 5>Orlando Brown, and then that was short lived. And now

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<v Speaker 5>they're kind of recycling that process again, and I think

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<v Speaker 5>we're kind of back to where they were before.

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<v Speaker 3>Now here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Kingsley Suwamatilla is not the answer this year, and they

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<v Speaker 5>figure out a way for him to be an answer

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<v Speaker 5>for them at one of the tackles moving forward. I

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<v Speaker 5>would say that's probably at least still a possibility. It

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't feel like it's certainly the way that we'll find

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<v Speaker 5>them success this year. So how do they minimize that

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<v Speaker 5>moving forward? I think is really where you have to

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<v Speaker 5>look if you're the Chiefs at this.

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<v Speaker 2>Point, Yeah, Well, it's not the last time we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to see these teams together. They're going to meet up

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<v Speaker 2>again in the postseason and we'll see again. Only one

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<v Speaker 2>loss separates them in the lost column, and now Buffalo

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<v Speaker 2>has a tiebreaker. So we just to see how this

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<v Speaker 2>season unfolds for both these ball clubs going forward. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get to the Senna night game that I was

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<v Speaker 2>at Chargers and the Cincinnati Bengals. I'll start on the

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<v Speaker 2>Charger side of things. You know, calling their games for

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<v Speaker 2>seven years, I've seen the Chargers lose this game a

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<v Speaker 2>dozen times, if not more, where things start going bad

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<v Speaker 2>and they can't stop the bleeding. This was different last night.

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<v Speaker 2>They get out to a big lead. Offense was really clicking.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I thought you had a quarterback and a

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<v Speaker 2>coordinator with Herbert and Greg Roman in sinc they were

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<v Speaker 2>running the ball with the you know, just in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of committing to the run. But then they were going

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<v Speaker 2>heavy boxes play action and hitting shots Will Disley down

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<v Speaker 2>the steam. You had Quinton Johnson getting another touchdown, but

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<v Speaker 2>they were just loading up the box. And then they're

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<v Speaker 2>getting a little pull from the second level off play action,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they're letting Herbert attack vertically and then Herbert

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<v Speaker 2>using his legs has been a nice component to this offense.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyways, all clicking second half, they get out of rhythm,

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<v Speaker 2>they can't find it. Herbert has a fumble on a run,

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<v Speaker 2>he misses some throws, the defense has given up points. It's,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Joe Burrow's playing out of his mind as

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<v Speaker 2>he has all season long, and just felt it slipping away.

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<v Speaker 2>They get a couple miskicks, but then when they had

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<v Speaker 2>to have a drive, you know Herbert can can do

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<v Speaker 2>it within you know, two three plays. It's just really

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<v Speaker 2>two throws to Lad McConkey, who's been excellent and who's

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<v Speaker 2>someone I think is going to be a high, high,

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<v Speaker 2>high end two, if not a lower one.

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<v Speaker 3>But Buck.

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<v Speaker 2>I was watching them, and I've said this for a

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<v Speaker 2>few weeks now to Money up there in the booth

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<v Speaker 2>is when I watch this Chargers team, it feels like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm watching the Lions of like a year or two ago. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>like they are. You can see where this is headed,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're going to get some more skill around this group.

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<v Speaker 2>But man, it's exciting to see. This is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the ground floor and it's it's going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>playoff team when they're here on year one.

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<v Speaker 1>So the comments that I heard after the game, I

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<v Speaker 1>heard Joey Bosa talk about like their culture and how

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<v Speaker 1>they believe that the work and the preparation that they

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<v Speaker 1>do puts them in a position to win games, and

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<v Speaker 1>they feel like something specialist brewing hearing the other comments

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<v Speaker 1>from some of the other players saying that in the

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<v Speaker 1>past we have lost this game, but we just know

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<v Speaker 1>that we're so connected and so together that we were

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<v Speaker 1>going to find a way to win it.

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<v Speaker 4>To me, they are.

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<v Speaker 1>All in on their leader, and that connectivity between players

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<v Speaker 1>and coach is essential. The fact that they believe in

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Harbor and he's done a really good job of

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<v Speaker 1>creating an environment where they do buy into the work,

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<v Speaker 1>the toughness, the physicality in those things. DJ, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>even have the pieces of the puzzle yet, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>you talked about, you know the guys they brought over

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<v Speaker 1>lab McConkie.

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<v Speaker 4>They got JK.

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<v Speaker 1>Dobb and Gus Everards and all those guys, but they

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<v Speaker 1>haven't upgraded. They've tried to flush out the salary cap

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<v Speaker 1>situation and just win with what they could. So when

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<v Speaker 1>this team is really constructed the way that they want

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<v Speaker 1>it to be, It's gonna be a problem. And that energy,

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<v Speaker 1>that attitude, that toughness that they bring it certainly is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a thorn in the side of the

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<v Speaker 1>other opponents in the AFC West.

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<v Speaker 5>And I would look at it as you know, all right,

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<v Speaker 5>you've is you make the analogy with the Lions DJ,

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, okay, well, how can you hold on to

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<v Speaker 5>the majority of this and push it forward? And I

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<v Speaker 5>think one of the big, you know, things that you're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna have to hold on to is Jesse Minter, defensive

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<v Speaker 5>coordinator for the Chargers, has just done a phenomenal job.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, look, he's got some great players back there.

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<v Speaker 5>I get that, but man, he is who ordinated this

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<v Speaker 5>this unit very well.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like generated thirty six pressures.

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<v Speaker 5>They generated pressure on Joe Burrow almost seventy percent of

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<v Speaker 5>his pass attempts back there, Which kind of brings me

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<v Speaker 5>to the point for Cincinnati, like they're not altogether in

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<v Speaker 5>much different of a spot than the Kansas City Chiefs

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<v Speaker 5>were after their Super Bowl run. Remember the year before

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<v Speaker 5>the Bengals went to the Super Bowl, they kind of

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<v Speaker 5>remade that offensive line made a bunch of those those

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<v Speaker 5>free agent acquisitions, but now it feels like they're kind

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<v Speaker 5>of back in a spot where they're giving up pressures

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<v Speaker 5>all over the place, Burrows taking hits and he's got

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<v Speaker 5>to be superhuman back there trying to complete some of

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<v Speaker 5>these passes under duress.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just not sustainable. And we're going to be in.

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<v Speaker 5>A position here where you're getting your quarterback knocked around

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<v Speaker 5>again and the last thing you want to do is

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<v Speaker 5>see him, you know, have to miss time like he

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<v Speaker 5>did each of the last couple of years. So you know,

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<v Speaker 5>as you look at that, it's kind of like a

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<v Speaker 5>cause and effect Chargers again, exposing where the Bengals are

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<v Speaker 5>from a pass protection situation. And you know, the Chargers

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<v Speaker 5>defense has just flat out really good and would be

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<v Speaker 5>a big reason why they are a playoff team. But

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<v Speaker 5>here's the thing that was a little concerning to me, guys,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'd love to get your opinion on this. You've

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<v Speaker 5>listened to all the comments from Bengals players after the game,

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<v Speaker 5>Jamar Chase, maybe with some of.

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<v Speaker 3>The most you know, explosive.

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<v Speaker 5>It feels like a team that's unraveling, you know, and look,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe some of what he's saying isn't wrong. But do

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<v Speaker 5>you go out there and say it, like, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you paid McPherson go out and make the dang kicks.

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<v Speaker 5>I get it, he didn't make the kicks. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>you pay Zach Taylor to help get this team in

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<v Speaker 5>a framework to go finish games.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not finishing games right now.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's not like you and you and you, it's

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<v Speaker 5>it's us, and that to me feels like that's not

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<v Speaker 5>the messaging that's happening in Cincinnati, and there's no way

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<v Speaker 5>they recover from this if it keeps getting singled out, you,

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<v Speaker 5>singled out you.

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<v Speaker 3>All I got to do is worry about me. That's

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<v Speaker 3>that is not one.

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<v Speaker 2>So I wouldn't plan on going into this direction. This

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<v Speaker 2>might take us a minute here, so I have to

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<v Speaker 2>ask for some patience. But if we were talking on

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<v Speaker 2>here the last couple of weeks and Buck, I know

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<v Speaker 2>we've had this conversation about Ben Johnson and we've made

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<v Speaker 2>the case that hey, unless he gets blown away, just

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<v Speaker 2>just just make Detroit pay it, you know, head coach

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<v Speaker 2>money to stay as the offensive coordinator because it's just

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<v Speaker 2>so hard to find the right fit for you to

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<v Speaker 2>be successful. And if you look at the jobs that

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<v Speaker 2>might pop up, and we know who the where those

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<v Speaker 2>jobs are, we know who the quarterbacks for those teams are,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's some intriguing names. There's nothing like Joe Burrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Burrow and seeing it in person. You mentioned those pressure

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<v Speaker 2>numbers rhet He is an assassin. He is a stone

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<v Speaker 2>cold killer to the point where as great as Josh

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<v Speaker 2>Allen and his greatest Mahomes, both those guys are I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not if you give me equal talent, I'm not. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that I'm picking against Joe Burrow. So if

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<v Speaker 2>i'm if, I'm the Bengals, and I'm never going to

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<v Speaker 2>advocate for anybody to lose their job. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of other issues with this team, but

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<v Speaker 2>if they did make a change, to me, that is

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<v Speaker 2>easily the most desirable job that would be available. And

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<v Speaker 2>if I was Ben Johnson, I would call them before

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<v Speaker 2>they called me.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing, though, I thought they extended Zach Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>where it would make it almost cost prohibitive.

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<v Speaker 4>Knowing the Bengals, and that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Not the way they normally do business, and that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>not business.

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<v Speaker 4>Will I will say this about what Red is talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would say the comments that come off as selfish, no,

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<v Speaker 1>they are selfish from Jamar Chase. Here's what happens when

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<v Speaker 1>you run the risk of not playing pain your players

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<v Speaker 1>before you get into the season. So now all of

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<v Speaker 1>those feelings of feeling disrespected and that stuff, you're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>it not in their performance, but the body language and

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<v Speaker 1>the actions of T Higgins and Jamar Chase. At some point,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to try and keep the family together and

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<v Speaker 1>keep the family happy. And I know we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>businesses business, but I feel like they're disjointed because of

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<v Speaker 1>contract negotiations that have gone awry. And now you're just

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<v Speaker 1>having them say, well, I don't really care. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get mine, I want to be healthy, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to put up numbers, and then whatever happens to the

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<v Speaker 1>team happens with the team. And that's not a way

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<v Speaker 1>that a team can be successful in this eraor yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, look guys, I mean this is a situation for

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<v Speaker 2>the Bengals. It's just man, they've lost so many close games,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I think you're seeing some of the

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<v Speaker 2>frustration that comes from that. Look at the Ravens game,

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the Chiefs game. You look at this game.

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<v Speaker 2>They've had opportunities, haven't been able to get it done.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that's why all this stuff is really

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<v Speaker 2>starting to bubble up. All right, let's keep it moving

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<v Speaker 2>here and let's get to another big time game, big

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<v Speaker 2>time performance by the Pittsburgh Steelers. They take care of

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<v Speaker 2>the Baltimore Ravens in a field goal fest. For the Steelers,

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't finish drives, didn't get things done the way

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<v Speaker 2>they wanted to. But this is a game ret where

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<v Speaker 2>they controlled the clock, They had the ball for thirty

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<v Speaker 2>six minutes, twenty two minutes for the Baltimore Ravens, and

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<v Speaker 2>Baltimore penalties twelve turnovers three. There's your ball game.

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<v Speaker 3>There's really no other way to describe it.

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<v Speaker 5>This was a mistake game, full of mistakes for the

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<v Speaker 5>Ravens and uncharacteristic like mistakes. You would talk about the

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<v Speaker 5>turnovers and the penalty shore, but how about the two

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<v Speaker 5>misses in the second quarter for Justin Tucker, the most

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<v Speaker 5>accurate kicker and NFL history, is now barely middle of

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<v Speaker 5>the road in field goal made percentage so far this season.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean miss back to back kicks, Sure not gimme's

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<v Speaker 5>forty seven and fifty yarder, but those were I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>in Tucker's landscape, those are gimmes and so he's had

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<v Speaker 5>some misses now this year. And it starts, oh boy,

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<v Speaker 5>there's a drop obviously concentration drop for Zave Flowers. He

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<v Speaker 5>made up for it with a touchdown later, but it

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<v Speaker 5>just it felt like from the jump Derek Henry fumbles

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<v Speaker 5>on his second carry and it was like, holy smokes,

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<v Speaker 5>you know that the onsought of negativity was just really

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<v Speaker 5>hard for the Ravens to overcome, even though they went

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<v Speaker 5>down and scored and we're leading at the half and

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<v Speaker 5>just just couldn't find a way to take advantage of

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<v Speaker 5>the Steelers kind of keeping them in the game and

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<v Speaker 5>ultimately Steelers find a way to win.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is frustrated for the Baltimore Ravens because this

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<v Speaker 1>is a team that has been so good this season,

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<v Speaker 1>but the issues that have hurt them in the games

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<v Speaker 1>that they've lost are the dbos, don't beat ourselves, turnovers, penalties.

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<v Speaker 4>Big plays allowed. When you do that, you're gonna lose games.

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<v Speaker 1>Twelve pen is too many penalties, too many self inflicted mistakes,

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<v Speaker 1>three turnovers plus two additional miskicks which we could really

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<v Speaker 1>count as turnovers. It's just hard to win when you

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<v Speaker 1>have so many mistakes. And they'll look at the tape

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<v Speaker 1>and they're going to kick themselves knowing they didn't give

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<v Speaker 1>themselves a chance to win because they had so many

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<v Speaker 1>egregious errors that they have to eliminate. And so the

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<v Speaker 1>next time they see the Pittsburgh Steelers, we'll see if

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<v Speaker 1>they can tighten it up. But the Stealers feel so

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<v Speaker 1>confident whenever they see the Baltimore Ravens and Lamar Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason, they just have a hold over this

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<v Speaker 1>team and the Bravens somehow have to get past it.

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot of times it's games like this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember remember last year all the drop passes that Baltimore

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<v Speaker 2>had at Pittsburgh as they Flowers had to drop touchdown

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<v Speaker 2>in that game last year. I mean they they just

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<v Speaker 2>something about the Pittsburgh Steelers brings out some funky stuff

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<v Speaker 2>from the Ravens. And I do think there is I

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<v Speaker 2>think with Lamar Jackson and the rest of the league,

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<v Speaker 2>or most of the league, I should say there's a

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<v Speaker 2>fear factor. You don't see a lot of them, and

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<v Speaker 2>when you do it's like, oh gosh, okay, hey, be disciplined,

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<v Speaker 2>don't get caught out of your lanes. You're cautious to

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<v Speaker 2>rush the quarterback, you know, you just there's a fear

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<v Speaker 2>factor there. And I think familiarity buck, I know, I

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<v Speaker 2>know your Dodgers beat my Podres. But the but the

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<v Speaker 2>Potteries don't have any There's no awe, there's no fear factory.

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<v Speaker 2>If they see him, they see them all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>So like it takes away some of that. It takes

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<v Speaker 2>away some of that when you have a team of

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<v Speaker 2>foe that you're so familiar with.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, now, yeah, because they go after him, they say

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<v Speaker 1>in pressure they come after him.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't, Uh, they're not scared on their heels like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh what's he going to do?

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<v Speaker 4>They're not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the thing that stood up to me

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<v Speaker 1>was uh, Mike Tomlin playing the motivational tactics, first sending

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick Queen out for the coin toss and making sure

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<v Speaker 1>he praised them at everything, talking about one man's trash

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<v Speaker 1>is another man's treasure. You knew Patrick Queen was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be on ten, and they come up with that

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<v Speaker 1>big turnover, uh to rip the ball away and to

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<v Speaker 1>make the play that he had to make to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of seal the game is huge. And so when you

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<v Speaker 1>get a motivated guy like that, that's exactly what you want.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the Pittsburgh still is I have a young

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<v Speaker 1>collection of playmakers that are emerging. Look, they people will

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<v Speaker 1>not talk about them being the best team in the AFC,

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<v Speaker 1>but man, they gonna be a tough team to deal

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<v Speaker 1>within the postseason because they just play a stout that

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<v Speaker 1>is so different than everybody else is they ugly up

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<v Speaker 1>the game and they know how to win these ugly games.

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<v Speaker 5>And that was the other thing I'll go back and

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<v Speaker 5>just kind of clarify again. You know, you felt like

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<v Speaker 5>the Ravens, despite all their issues early in the game,

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<v Speaker 5>We're going to take the lead into the half seven

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<v Speaker 5>to six after scoring a touchdown late. But then they

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<v Speaker 5>get the ball back and they fumble deep in their

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<v Speaker 5>own end and you give the Steelers a chance with

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<v Speaker 5>just seconds remaining in the first half, a chance to

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<v Speaker 5>kick the field goal from Chris Boswell, and then end

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<v Speaker 5>up still having the lead nine to seven at the

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<v Speaker 5>end of the first thirty minutes. Like that was so

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<v Speaker 5>descriptive of the way this game ended. Up going for Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 5>Like every time you'd find a way to generate some positivity,

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<v Speaker 5>something would pull you back. They two steps forward, one

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<v Speaker 5>step back, and it just ultimately it came back to

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<v Speaker 5>bite him.

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<v Speaker 3>So this was Pittsburgh's first.

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<v Speaker 5>Division game of the season, so we've gotten much more

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<v Speaker 5>of this still to come. But man, Ravens will look

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<v Speaker 5>to turn the tide and they get him in Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know that it was a cruise to

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<v Speaker 2>victory for the Green Bay Packers. It was definitely not

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<v Speaker 2>a cruise for the Chicago Bears to defeat. But this

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<v Speaker 2>was a game I teased this earlier, and I want

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<v Speaker 2>to lead with this because I want to start first

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<v Speaker 2>of all, on the Caleb Williams side of things. In

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<v Speaker 2>this game they lose, Bears lose twenty nineteen. I start first.

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<v Speaker 2>They if they make a kick in this game and

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<v Speaker 2>they don't just completely flub on the Hail Mary against Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>these are two signature comeback wins for Caleb Williams. Late

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<v Speaker 2>drives to lead the Bears to victory. As a Bears

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<v Speaker 2>team that's six and four. If that's the case, Man,

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<v Speaker 2>the vibe is so different. It just shows you how

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<v Speaker 2>narrow the line is here between being a hero and

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<v Speaker 2>a goat. But Buck, I want to get to you

0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:12.879
<v Speaker 2>on this point because this is a saucing nug for you.

0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:15.800
<v Speaker 2>I was looking this up because I was thinking about

0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:17.800
<v Speaker 2>just playing on time and the importance of playing on

0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:21.440
<v Speaker 2>time and playing within structure, and how much we talk

0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:23.560
<v Speaker 2>about that and how that had been. You know, it's

0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:26.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot of discussion about Caleb. It needs to get

0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:28.480
<v Speaker 2>more comfortable in that regard. So I said, okay, well,

0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:31.280
<v Speaker 2>if we're going to kind of label guys who scramble

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<v Speaker 2>around as maybe that's not the way you win games

0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:36.040
<v Speaker 2>in this league, let me give you the top scramblers

0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:39.200
<v Speaker 2>in the NFL who scrambled the most. Number one is

0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:42.439
<v Speaker 2>Jayden Daniels, followed by Brock Perdy, Bo Nicks, Lamar Jackson,

0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:45.560
<v Speaker 2>Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, Patrick Mahomes. Those are the top

0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:50.520
<v Speaker 2>scramblers in the NFL. So, and all those guys, even

0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:53.040
<v Speaker 2>with Bonix being a young player, they're all those quarterbacks

0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:54.920
<v Speaker 2>are playing at a very high level. And if you

0:21:54.960 --> 0:21:57.120
<v Speaker 2>were to go longer on that list, I could make

0:21:57.160 --> 0:21:58.960
<v Speaker 2>a case that ten of the eleven are playing at

0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:01.359
<v Speaker 2>a high level. Guys that are scrambling around. So I

0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:03.920
<v Speaker 2>don't know that we need to remove scrambling from Caleb.

0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:06.680
<v Speaker 2>I think what we saw in this game, which was encouraging,

0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:09.520
<v Speaker 2>which was whatever you're going to do, do it, you know,

0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:11.240
<v Speaker 2>don't get The worst thing you can do is just

0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:14.719
<v Speaker 2>get stuck back there. So if you want to get

0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:16.080
<v Speaker 2>the ball out your hands quick, get it out of

0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:17.960
<v Speaker 2>your hands quick. If you don't like it, then go

0:22:18.080 --> 0:22:21.160
<v Speaker 2>use your legs and make something happen. But be more decisive.

0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:24.000
<v Speaker 2>And I thought that was a positive take away from

0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:26.320
<v Speaker 2>me with this Bears game. I don't think you need to.

0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:28.399
<v Speaker 2>I think there was some part of him maybe and

0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:30.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they're telling this or maybe just subconsciously,

0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:32.760
<v Speaker 2>it's like I've got to put my feet and cement

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<v Speaker 2>back here to prove that I'm something, you know, And

0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:37.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, that's not the way the NFL plays anymore. Man,

0:22:37.760 --> 0:22:39.679
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to do that now.

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<v Speaker 1>What's interesting is his comments after the game when you

0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:44.760
<v Speaker 1>talked about Thomas Brown in the Biggest Change, and he

0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:49.080
<v Speaker 1>just talked about Thomas Brown's decisiveness, decisiveness with his play

0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:51.120
<v Speaker 1>calls in and out the huddle, the.

0:22:51.080 --> 0:22:53.400
<v Speaker 4>Way that he seeks the calls he just said.

0:22:53.480 --> 0:22:56.879
<v Speaker 1>It was more up tempo, on pace in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>just the operation in and out the huddle. Like Thomas

0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:02.240
<v Speaker 1>knew exactly what he wanted to get to and it

0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:05.600
<v Speaker 1>allowed him to be more decisive, which is my why

0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:08.000
<v Speaker 1>you may have see him, why we may have witnessed

0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:11.760
<v Speaker 1>a more decisive player inside and outside the pocket. When

0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:13.919
<v Speaker 1>you take a player like Kayleb Williams, you have to

0:23:13.960 --> 0:23:16.359
<v Speaker 1>take him knowing the player that you got at USC

0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:18.480
<v Speaker 1>is the player that is going to show up in Chicago,

0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:21.199
<v Speaker 1>and your job is to build around what he showed

0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:25.080
<v Speaker 1>at SC and if he plays like he played yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>Then you continue to build it out.

0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:29.760
<v Speaker 1>But it's about teaching him how to be decisive, making

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<v Speaker 1>decisions fast and going with it.

0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:33.080
<v Speaker 4>Don't make him something that he's not.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah looking, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>On the Packers side of things, you know, they come

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<v Speaker 5>up with a win here, remain within striking distance of

0:23:39.119 --> 0:23:41.960
<v Speaker 5>the Detroit Lions. But the more I kind of watched

0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:44.359
<v Speaker 5>you know, Green Bay and then Detroit, which we'll get

0:23:44.400 --> 0:23:46.040
<v Speaker 5>to here in just a couple of minutes, it does

0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:50.840
<v Speaker 5>feel like the gap is fairly significant there, especially you know,

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:54.880
<v Speaker 5>with the fact that Jordan Love can't quite get rid

0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:58.760
<v Speaker 5>of these turnovers. He's now had an interception in every

0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:01.320
<v Speaker 5>game this season, and it just happened to come down

0:24:01.480 --> 0:24:05.000
<v Speaker 5>in the red area. Intercepted near the goal line, they're

0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:07.920
<v Speaker 5>thwarting a scoring opportunity. And then actually the Packers turned

0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:10.760
<v Speaker 5>it over on downs down in the red area as well.

0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:15.080
<v Speaker 5>So for them to be a viable post season contender

0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:17.320
<v Speaker 5>that you can trust, it does feel like they've got

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:20.919
<v Speaker 5>to find a way here to get this offense to

0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:24.200
<v Speaker 5>finish with points on the board and not with those

0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:27.160
<v Speaker 5>some of those costly turnovers in there where you are

0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:30.080
<v Speaker 5>taking away the opportunity to score some points.

0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:32.800
<v Speaker 3>So otherwise like it was a fairly efficient day. They

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:34.040
<v Speaker 3>didn't have the ball very much.

0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:37.000
<v Speaker 5>Only twenty three minutes of top in this one for

0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 5>green Bay and just seventeen pass attempts.

0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:40.760
<v Speaker 3>For Jordan Love.

0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:43.520
<v Speaker 5>So they figure out a way to minimize those turnovers,

0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:46.760
<v Speaker 5>and I think you'll have a much better opportunity for

0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:48.760
<v Speaker 5>Green Bay to try to make a run at this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I looked that they gave up nineteen points. I

0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:53.760
<v Speaker 2>don't want to ding their defense, but Chicago was nine

0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:55.879
<v Speaker 2>to sixteen on third down and this has been an

0:24:55.920 --> 0:25:00.040
<v Speaker 2>offense that is obviously massively struggling. So that was a

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:01.720
<v Speaker 2>little bit of a concern on the on the Green

0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Bay side of things that weren't able to get off

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:05.040
<v Speaker 2>the field and weren't able to get off the field

0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:07.800
<v Speaker 2>late either bailed out by you know, the block field

0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:10.680
<v Speaker 2>goal attempt. But that that you know, and we'll get it.

0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:12.800
<v Speaker 2>This will get us into this next game here before

0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 2>we get into Jacksonville Detroit. But just go around the

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:17.479
<v Speaker 2>horn real quick, because I'll get both your takes on it.

0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:20.920
<v Speaker 2>To me, it feels like NFC Detroit's in a tier

0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:24.280
<v Speaker 2>all by themselves nobody. I think they're playing much better

0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:26.520
<v Speaker 2>in a belt. I think Philadelphia is behind them. I

0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:32.040
<v Speaker 2>think I don't think there's anybody close to Philadelphia. Is

0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:34.200
<v Speaker 2>the point I'm gonna make, Like, I feel like it's

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 2>those two teams, however much distance we want to disagree on,

0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:39.159
<v Speaker 2>like how much difference there is between Detroit and Philly.

0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:41.320
<v Speaker 2>That might be closer, like you said, but but I

0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:43.720
<v Speaker 2>think after those two teams, it feels like there's I

0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:46.840
<v Speaker 2>don't think Green Bay. I think they're significantly Minnesota.

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:48.240
<v Speaker 4>You don't feel like Minnesota.

0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't trust Minnesota. We'll get to Minnesota. There's something

0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:53.520
<v Speaker 2>there that I don't trust, and it really is more

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:57.160
<v Speaker 2>about their defense. When their defense plays the better quarterbacks,

0:25:57.359 --> 0:25:59.639
<v Speaker 2>I think that that sell out, you know, way of

0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:02.200
<v Speaker 2>playing defense against top tier quarterbacks is going to be

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 2>a dangerous way to live. But that's my opinion there.

0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:09.400
<v Speaker 2>But do you think those two are cut above everybody else?

0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:09.600
<v Speaker 3>Buck?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the only thing I would say, I think those

0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 1>who are definitely there. I put Minnesota right there with

0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia because I would say that their defense being able

0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:20.119
<v Speaker 1>to create turnovers in those things, and it is a

0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Gopher broke style of play I'm more of. I think

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 1>their postseason hopes hange on Sam Donald's play and watching

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:31.840
<v Speaker 1>him a week ago and then talking to some of

0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:34.280
<v Speaker 1>the people around the building. They just said like, hey,

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:36.240
<v Speaker 1>if he plays within himself, we can win and knock

0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:38.600
<v Speaker 1>off any team. He just has to make sure that

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:41.639
<v Speaker 1>he stays within the boundaries his limitations. If he does that,

0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 1>they can win. So I'm just more worried about Sam

0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Donald in the postseason.

0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:47.760
<v Speaker 4>Can he just continue to be the player that he was?

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 1>The player there was Yesterday's certainly good enough to help

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:51.480
<v Speaker 1>them win against any team.

0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:52.280
<v Speaker 4>That's the only thing.

0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:55.399
<v Speaker 1>But I think Minnesota, Philly and Detroit, but Detroit way

0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:56.840
<v Speaker 1>up there over the other two.

0:26:57.359 --> 0:27:00.159
<v Speaker 2>RTT you want in on that just in terms of know,

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 2>what do you think the pecking order is there? Real

0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:03.200
<v Speaker 2>quick and then we'll keep it moving.

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think you guys are right on the Other

0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:08.520
<v Speaker 5>thing that I would say, and it's a huge if,

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:11.359
<v Speaker 5>and it's a major caveat, is that there's gonna be

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 5>a team out west in whether it's the Cardinals, whether

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 5>it's the Rams, it is all of the are all

0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:20.680
<v Speaker 5>there healthy, and then the Niners, Like I just don't

0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 5>know if I'm ready to count them out either. I

0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 5>feel like there's gonna be a team in the West.

0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:28.040
<v Speaker 5>And man, when Matthew Stafford is on like he was

0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:32.160
<v Speaker 5>with Kup and Nakua yesterday, that's that's some good offense

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:33.200
<v Speaker 5>out there in the NFC.

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 3>I put that right up there with everybody else.

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And not just to put a bow on it.

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 2>With Minnesota Golf and Stafford the two quarterbacks who beat them,

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:42.120
<v Speaker 2>And that's what I worry about, is those the type

0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 2>of quarterbacks you're going to run into in the postseason

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:45.960
<v Speaker 2>and you want to sell out and play that aggressive,

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 2>They'll make you pay with really good quarterbacks. Jacksonville Detroit

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 2>buck full disclosure when I you know, when I look

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:53.360
<v Speaker 2>at all the games and I'm trying to figure out

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:56.119
<v Speaker 2>what I'm gonna watch, and I prioritize I did not

0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:59.119
<v Speaker 2>watch lick a film of this game, because I was

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:00.680
<v Speaker 2>just going to let you take the floor and tell

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:02.680
<v Speaker 2>me what you saw in person. I wasn't gonna subject

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:03.320
<v Speaker 2>myself to that.

0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:08.080
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So what I saw was every year in the

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:10.880
<v Speaker 1>college football season, you put a game on the schedule

0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:12.919
<v Speaker 1>where you're just trying to work through the kings. You

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 1>know you're gonna beat the team, but you're trying to

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:17.200
<v Speaker 1>work everything out. I feel like Detroit put the Jacks

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.359
<v Speaker 1>on the schedule to do just that. The way that

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:22.159
<v Speaker 1>they attack the Jack wall from beginning to end.

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:23.440
<v Speaker 4>From beginning to in.

0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is an old school a let's bring them in,

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna pay.

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 4>Them, fly the way, give them a buffet, pre and post, or.

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:32.679
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna beat them down. That's how they did it.

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 1>But in reality, here's what I'll say about the Detroit Lions.

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 1>I believe the Detroit Lions are a perfectly constructed team.

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 1>To be a title contender. On offense, they can play

0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 1>a variety of ways that gives.

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 4>Them multiple paths to be able to win.

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 1>They can run it, they can throw it, they can

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 1>play with power, they can play with finesse. Defensively, they've

0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>really come on and the loss of eight and Hutchinson

0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:55.479
<v Speaker 1>is significant, but they found a way to do. What

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 1>we talked about last week is rush the quarterback by committee,

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:01.720
<v Speaker 1>but in the back end they are terrific.

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 4>Brian Branch is everything that we thought he did.

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why he didn't go in the first round,

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 1>but the guy plays like a first rounder all day,

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:11.920
<v Speaker 1>every day. And then Kirby Joseph who plays alongside of them,

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 1>They may be the best safety tenem in the business

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 1>because they do a great job of working off of

0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 1>one another.

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:19.720
<v Speaker 5>So the way that I look at this now is yeah,

0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 5>I mean you painted the picture.

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 3>That's that's what happened in the game.

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:25.280
<v Speaker 5>The Lions far superior on paper and in this game

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 5>right now, what do you do? What are we doing

0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:30.920
<v Speaker 5>it for the Jaguars here? So how do we figure

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 5>this thing out?

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 3>Right? What do you build around?

0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 5>If you look at the pieces that you just that

0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 5>are must haves moving forward next year. Trevor Lawrence certainly

0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:43.160
<v Speaker 5>tied to him after the big contract. Brian Thomas has

0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 5>proved to be a major player this past year. Is

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:48.960
<v Speaker 5>the first round draft pick. I think outside of that,

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:52.480
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you're hoping Anton Harrison can be a guy

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 5>at tackle after being a first round pick in twenty three.

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 5>But like and then on defense is Trayvon Walker and

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 5>Josh Heines Allen mm hm am I missing anybody that

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 5>that we must have?

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 4>Right?

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Here's my here's my question. Here's my question. So if

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:11.720
<v Speaker 2>you're the Jags and the highest you have, the two

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 2>highest rated players on your board are ones a wide

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 2>receiver and one's a corner? Who are you taking? Trick questions?

0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:22.920
<v Speaker 2>Just one player? You're taking Travis Hunter? And now we

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 2>have Travis with BTJ out there as well as we're

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 2>getting him some work on the defensive side of the ball.

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:31.240
<v Speaker 2>What's that, Coach Belichick? What was that play called? Okay,

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 2>I got it all of a sudden, Now, Jags, this

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 2>sounds a little different and looks a little all sudden.

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 2>Trevors there, that would be that.

0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm with you, But here's what I'll say. I'll

0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 1>say this like with a little envy sitting on one

0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>sideline looking over the other. The complete buy in that

0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:56.240
<v Speaker 1>the Alliance have had, from top to bottom, front office,

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 1>coaching staff, the players that they have. There's a clear

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:02.440
<v Speaker 1>vision of how they want to play. There's a clear

0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:04.960
<v Speaker 1>vision of the type of players that they want and

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 1>their style. You feel, DJ, it's a rare opportunity where

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 1>you get a chance to see the backups go in.

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 1>I guess so when the backups went in, the energy

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 1>and the attitude did not change. They were out to

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 1>literally bust the clock. And I mean, I'm just mo.

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Gay comes in in the fourth corner, He's running. I'm like,

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 1>who is this? And oh, by the way, as fast

0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 1>as you think Jamiir Gibbs is, he is that much.

0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 1>He might be the quickest running back I've ever seen

0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:36.400
<v Speaker 1>in terms of on that turf.

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 4>He is unbelievable.

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Like that combination they have in the backfield with him

0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>and David Montgomery is tough.

0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 4>They are a really good team and they are locked in.

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 2>All right, guys, let's get through a rip of games here.

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 2>We can get through a bunch of more games here

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 2>with the time we've got left Minnesota Tennessee RTT. What

0:31:58.400 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 2>was what was your takeaway here?

0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 5>Vikings did enough, you know, Vikings did enough and found

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 5>a way to minimize mistakes, you know, and got Jordan

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:10.800
<v Speaker 5>Addison going a little bit after he had a quiet

0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 5>spell for a couple of weeks, had a couple of

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 5>big catches in this game. And look, I think the

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 5>one other thing that I come away with here is

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 5>Tennessee plays hard man, especially on defense. That is a

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 5>good looking group. Jeffrey Simmons again is a game wrecker.

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:25.959
<v Speaker 5>But the Vikings found a way. And here's the thing, like,

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 5>if you're the Tennessee Titans and you can't run the

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:30.680
<v Speaker 5>ball all and you've got a quarterback like Will Levis

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 5>like we kind of been talking about, does not fit

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:36.360
<v Speaker 5>the bill yet of those of those elite passers that

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:38.960
<v Speaker 5>can find a way to make you pay when you're

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 5>bringing that aggressive pressure that the Vikings do. So no

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 5>run game, not yet a quarterback who can deal with

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 5>that kind of pressure.

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:45.920
<v Speaker 3>You're in a lot of trouble. And that's what it

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:46.520
<v Speaker 3>felt like to me.

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, a lot of trouble, a lot of problems.

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Sam Donald bouncing back after watching him basically keep the

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Jaguars in it the week before he came back, played.

0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:58.000
<v Speaker 4>More discipline ball.

0:32:58.280 --> 0:32:59.920
<v Speaker 1>That's the Sam Donald that needs to show up for

0:32:59.920 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 1>the Minnesota Vikings. If they do that, they're good enough

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>to win and make a deep postseason run.

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean one of the big concerns I had was

0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 2>with Darrisaw going down and missing Darrisaw button. You make

0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 2>a trade Cam Robinson, right, Cam Robinson's playing one.

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Cam Robinson comes over.

0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, So that was and he's hanging on in there,

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 2>and he's hanging on in there, so that was a

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 2>good move. All right, Let's get to Seattle, San Francisco. Buck.

0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 2>This is a big win in a very clustered and

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:31.239
<v Speaker 2>crowded NFC West. But that's a g. I shouldn't say good.

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 2>That's a great win for the Seattle Seahawks to go

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:34.840
<v Speaker 2>on the road and knock off the Niners.

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, great win for the series. But I'm gonna stay

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 1>on the Niner side. It may be time to hit

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 1>the panic button. This is a team where we knew

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:43.960
<v Speaker 1>that the Super Bowl hangover would probably be kind of

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 1>in play. And look, they're five and five and a

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 1>team that has been able to really kind of do

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 1>what they want to do against most opponents. Offensively, they're

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 1>not the same. They can't impose their wheel and the defense,

0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:59.120
<v Speaker 1>which has always been like part of the formula, like

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 1>run the ball, play great defense in those things, they're

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 1>not getting the same kind of contributions from the defense

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 1>that they've gotten in the past. To me, if the

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Noters are going to get back to being the team

0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 1>that we talk about being in the conversation to win

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:13.279
<v Speaker 1>the NFC, they got to get back to being who

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 1>they are from an identity standpoint, physical run game, selective

0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:19.400
<v Speaker 1>play make and on play action and in defense playing

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 1>LIFs out. They're not doing They're not checking the boxes

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 1>in any of those areas right now.

0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:25.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, the one thing I'll say, DJ and

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 5>I know you know you and I kind of talked

0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 5>about this and it just has not felt like the

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 5>same forty nine ers run game for the last what

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:33.840
<v Speaker 5>six eight weeks of this season. And obviously this is

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:36.799
<v Speaker 5>just Christian McCaffrey's second game back, and you've get to

0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 5>play a game and won't play a game where you

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:41.320
<v Speaker 5>have CMC burning then I UK, Indebo Samuel all together

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:43.520
<v Speaker 5>all at once. Same with George Kittle, and it just

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:45.320
<v Speaker 5>feels like the pieces come in and out of the

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:48.880
<v Speaker 5>lineup and it's hard to find consistent rhythm here. So

0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 5>I'm not ready to press that panic button yet. On

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 5>the forty nine ers, I feel like this team has

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 5>proven that they find they can find ways to win

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:00.279
<v Speaker 5>when they get down to it, and I I think

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 5>this division will allow them the opportunity to do that.

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, division's not going anywhere, that's the good news. It

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:09.120
<v Speaker 2>is all clumped in there together. Seattle did a great

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:11.360
<v Speaker 2>job living in big plays, just kind of put a

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:14.120
<v Speaker 2>lid on the on the forty nine ers, both run

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:16.359
<v Speaker 2>and pass. I thought that was the key. All right,

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:18.759
<v Speaker 2>Atlanta Denver. I'll start us off on this one because

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to watch the bo Nicks awesome game. You

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:25.440
<v Speaker 2>see the first rookie QB with eighty percent completion percentage,

0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:27.719
<v Speaker 2>three hundred and four passing touchdowns in a game. So

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:29.400
<v Speaker 2>that's where I wanted to start, and I went to

0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:31.879
<v Speaker 2>the entire game, watched every single snap of this one.

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 2>For Denver's offense, I thought they did a good job

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:36.719
<v Speaker 2>of it was like a sandwich. Like they start. It

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:38.920
<v Speaker 2>was a run, The bread was the run, and the

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 2>pass was the meat. They got into the game with

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:44.200
<v Speaker 2>some run game got them comfortable. Then they were able

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 2>to throw it all over the place, and then they

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:48.440
<v Speaker 2>were able to run it towards the end. But everything

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 2>was clicking. And look, I know that some folks, you know,

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 2>we'll look at Sean Payton and oh, you know, he's

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:58.320
<v Speaker 2>cocky or he's their again, and he maybe rubbed some

0:35:58.360 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 2>people the wrong way. The guy can the guy can

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:03.600
<v Speaker 2>scheme and call offense and there is no debating it.

0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:08.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you talk about four strong buck hitting backside slants.

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 2>He unloaded the screen game in this one. Every type

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:13.759
<v Speaker 2>of screen you can run. They ran it. They were effective,

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:16.879
<v Speaker 2>they ran they tight end leak got one wide open

0:36:16.960 --> 0:36:20.080
<v Speaker 2>on that one. So they got a lot of scheme

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:23.800
<v Speaker 2>stuff that I thought bon Nicks benefited from. But then Bonnicks,

0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:26.080
<v Speaker 2>you see his confidence soaring. He's ripping a seam ball

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 2>between the triangle defenders, and it was just like textbook

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:32.439
<v Speaker 2>how you handle a young quarterback. You ease him into

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 2>the game, then you kind of cut him loose, and

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:36.239
<v Speaker 2>then you don't ask him to do too much. We're

0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 2>still screening late in the game, we're running late in

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 2>the game, minimal minimal risk involved with a lot of

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 2>stuff that they were doing. I thought, buck to me,

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:47.360
<v Speaker 2>this was a masterclass by Sean Payton and bon Knicks.

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Look, man, he gets it, he understands it. He understands

0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:52.719
<v Speaker 1>how to make the game very, very easy for the quarterbacks.

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Just think about all the quarterbacks that came through New

0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Orleans that had success, small sample sizes, but think about

0:36:57.280 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 1>how James played for him, how Teddy Bridgewater play for him,

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:01.960
<v Speaker 1>what he's been able to do with quarterbacks outside of

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Drew Brees. He understands the position for bow Knicks. One

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:08.440
<v Speaker 1>of the things that excited me about the possibility of

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:11.560
<v Speaker 1>them getting together is bow Knicks has experienced the significant

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 1>amount of snaps that he played in college, the high

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:16.160
<v Speaker 1>iq that he has, the leadership and the maturity that

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:18.720
<v Speaker 1>he displayed. You put that with Sean Payton, who wants

0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:21.279
<v Speaker 1>to put a lot on the quarterback. You can just

0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:24.120
<v Speaker 1>see how this is going to continue to grow. And

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:27.840
<v Speaker 1>just wait till when they get more pieces around the quarterback.

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 1>You can see where the foundation is being built in Denver.

0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:32.960
<v Speaker 1>And if you're a Broncos fan, you have to be

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 1>excited about him.

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:39.719
<v Speaker 5>A couple of quick things there maturity, intelligence, accuracy. I

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 5>think that's what you've seen from bow Nicks in a

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:46.080
<v Speaker 5>big way, especially in this game. I mean, DJ I

0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 5>haven't watched all those snaps, I'm sure you could see

0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 5>the way his head moves from right to left or

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:51.919
<v Speaker 5>left to right. And it's not just like he's trying

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:54.560
<v Speaker 5>to look somebody off. He is moving through what Sean

0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:58.680
<v Speaker 5>Payton gives him to assess post snap, and that's been

0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 5>really impressive and again speaks to the experience and the

0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:04.359
<v Speaker 5>amount of football that he has seen. The other part

0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:07.759
<v Speaker 5>of it is like outside of the quarterback, you know,

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:10.160
<v Speaker 5>processing and all that kind of stuff, which is obviously

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 5>huge and very important, especially early for a rookie. But

0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:15.239
<v Speaker 5>I think the other part of it is you talk

0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 5>to folks in that building. They will talk about how

0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 5>he is beloved in that locker room. He has won

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:22.120
<v Speaker 5>those dudes over in a big way, how calm he

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:27.720
<v Speaker 5>is throughout game situations in timeouts like just low heartbeat player,

0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 5>not just in the pocket in a hostile environment, but

0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 5>even as you know situations are developing, even at the

0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:35.680
<v Speaker 5>end of that Kansas City game, you know, before they

0:38:35.719 --> 0:38:38.359
<v Speaker 5>went out and one against the Atlanta Falcons, this week.

0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:40.239
<v Speaker 3>So there's so much to like.

0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:42.759
<v Speaker 5>I'm just telling you, like, if if bo Nix and

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 5>the Broncos keep ascending and the commanders keep stumbling, it

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:50.240
<v Speaker 5>might end up being more of a conversation about offensive

0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 5>a conversation.

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:54.880
<v Speaker 2>He's already he's already a conversation. You should already make

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:56.839
<v Speaker 2>that a conversation. All right, we're gonna work through three

0:38:56.840 --> 0:38:59.120
<v Speaker 2>more games. But it's just a it's a speed round here.

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:03.320
<v Speaker 2>So it's one player, the one takeaway, one player, one takeaway,

0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 2>Buck the Indianapolis Colts knock off the Jets. I think

0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:09.920
<v Speaker 2>there's an obvious one here, but I'll let you have it.

0:39:10.040 --> 0:39:11.440
<v Speaker 2>One player, one takeaway.

0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:14.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give Anthony Richardson his props for being able

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 1>to learn hard lessons over two weeks. Maturity, professionalism, all

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 1>of those things that came out what they were talking about.

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:22.920
<v Speaker 4>I love the fact that he embraced it.

0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I love the fact that he was vulnerable with his

0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 1>teammates and that he came back and showed out in

0:39:27.120 --> 0:39:29.960
<v Speaker 1>a major way, played even beyond I would say the

0:39:30.040 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 1>coach's expectations. And so if he can do that and

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:35.799
<v Speaker 1>learn the value of preparation and putting in the time

0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:39.440
<v Speaker 1>and doing all those things that franchise quarterbacks are supposed

0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:42.359
<v Speaker 1>to do are expected to do. Now he has an

0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:44.480
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to realize some of that potential that made him

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:45.759
<v Speaker 1>the number four overall pick.

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:49.200
<v Speaker 2>All right, Rhett, you're up next here and we're going

0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:51.120
<v Speaker 2>to I think this is probably another easy one for

0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 2>you Rams, New England Patriots. You can go win or

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:57.280
<v Speaker 2>a loser here, But what's your takeaway?

0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:02.000
<v Speaker 5>One lot to love about the continued progression of Drake

0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:04.839
<v Speaker 5>may too. I just think that when the Rams are

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:07.239
<v Speaker 5>healthy and they're still getting there along the offensive front

0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 5>and trying to figure out how to get the best

0:40:08.680 --> 0:40:10.360
<v Speaker 5>five guys out there, they've been moving a lot of

0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:13.200
<v Speaker 5>pieces around. But I'm telling you that triangle and then

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:15.840
<v Speaker 5>with the run game of Kien Williams, but Stafford Pooka

0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:19.320
<v Speaker 5>and Cooper Cup, there's not a whole lot of trios

0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:20.919
<v Speaker 5>that I take over those three right there.

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:24.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's fair. They feel like the old old man's

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:27.680
<v Speaker 2>team that shows up at the y MCA and somehow

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:30.319
<v Speaker 2>they just run through everybody, all these young college kids.

0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 2>That's what it looks like when you watch the Rams

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:35.400
<v Speaker 2>play offense. Cleveland, New Orleans.

0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:36.719
<v Speaker 4>Man.

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, you get the I guess I could

0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:43.040
<v Speaker 2>go fully. You know, jamis full Jamis Winston experience in

0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:47.280
<v Speaker 2>this game as well as the the the perfect Taysom

0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Hill experience in this game with what he did just

0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:53.600
<v Speaker 2>making all kinds of plays. Aaron Rizzy's got him going, man.

0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:56.840
<v Speaker 2>So they they're playing well, the Browns saw him in

0:40:56.880 --> 0:40:59.359
<v Speaker 2>person a couple of weeks ago. It's just I don't

0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:01.760
<v Speaker 2>want to say play out the string. That's probably insulting

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:05.240
<v Speaker 2>to a bunch of professionals, but they're playing out the string.

0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:08.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is a that's a wrap one more buck,

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:12.279
<v Speaker 2>one more game, Vegas, Miami. Give me a takeaway on

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:12.800
<v Speaker 2>that one.

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:18.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, let's let's talk about Miami maybe finding themselves back

0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:21.279
<v Speaker 1>into rhythm in terms of being able to get it done.

0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:23.920
<v Speaker 1>And it's, you know, it's the offense is so different

0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:25.640
<v Speaker 1>when to a tongue of b low is there, Like

0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:27.319
<v Speaker 1>they're able to get it going, They're able to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of play dink and dunk ball. They still do kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like the lightning round running attack, but it's such

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<v Speaker 1>a unique offense. So for them to get back on

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<v Speaker 1>track thirty four points being able to kind of find

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<v Speaker 1>their way. Not quite ready to say that they're back

0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:43.839
<v Speaker 1>in the hunt of being a playoff team, but they

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<v Speaker 1>have enough intriguing pieces offensively.

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<v Speaker 4>That they can give you problems as we get down

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<v Speaker 4>the stretch.

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<v Speaker 3>Quick one, quick one, here, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what do you know?

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:55.120
<v Speaker 3>Bill Belichick gave all that money to Johnny Smith.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah he's back, baby.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what why?

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<v Speaker 2>He was a little premature found there he is. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the guy. All right, there is one more game and

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<v Speaker 2>it's time for the Monday night football preview. I can

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<v Speaker 2>tell you this, uh story here real quick. I called

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<v Speaker 2>the first game between the Houston Texans and it was

0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:23.040
<v Speaker 2>against the Dallas Cowboys. And that was David Carr at quarterback,

0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:25.440
<v Speaker 2>our colleague, I should say I called it. I spotted.

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<v Speaker 2>I was working for ESPN right out of college.

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<v Speaker 3>I was all right.

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<v Speaker 2>I was up in the blue. I think bucks heard

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<v Speaker 2>this before. I'm up in the booth. I'm spotting for

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Patrick, Diisman and McGuire.

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<v Speaker 3>And old Sunday night game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, old Sunday night. I'm right out of college. So

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<v Speaker 2>I've got my binoculars on and I look, and I

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<v Speaker 2>see David Carr's got a rubber it was like the

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<v Speaker 2>first rubber wedding band that he had on, and it

0:42:50.680 --> 0:42:52.799
<v Speaker 2>was except it was I think it might even have

0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 2>been just athletic tape, like they didn't even make those

0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 2>back then. I think it was just like athletic tape

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<v Speaker 2>around his wedding finger. So I told I told, like

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<v Speaker 2>Thimer one of them. I said like, oh, I think

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<v Speaker 2>like this guy. You know, David Carr is such a

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 2>good guy, Like he doesn't he wants to have his

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<v Speaker 2>ring on. So it looks like he's either taped his

0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:11.319
<v Speaker 2>ring up or he's got it and his thing. And uh,

0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:13.440
<v Speaker 2>but I don't know this is true. He could have

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<v Speaker 2>had a cut on his finger. So I just tell that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then this is like my first game working out

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<v Speaker 2>of college as a spotter, and they set it on

0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:22.680
<v Speaker 2>the air and I thought, oh my gosh, I hope

0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:24.359
<v Speaker 2>that this is true. I hope this is not. I'm

0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:28.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna get favored. I don't even know. And I believe

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:30.880
<v Speaker 2>it was Stuart Scott on Sports Center ran the highlight

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:32.879
<v Speaker 2>and they close up on his hand and go, oh,

0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 2>he's got he loves les so loves his wife. He's

0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:36.680
<v Speaker 2>got that. I'm like, oh, my guys, I know this

0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:38.040
<v Speaker 2>is not I don't even know if this is true.

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<v Speaker 3>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a twenty twenty two year old kid scared

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<v Speaker 2>to death that I was going to get fired because

0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:47.759
<v Speaker 2>of the inaugural Texans game against the Dallas Cowboys. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's not really the preview I think people listen to

0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:51.080
<v Speaker 2>us for. But that's what I thought.

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<v Speaker 4>So one thing I mean, that's that's a good job.

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:55.879
<v Speaker 2>That's a spicy g good guy. That is good.

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<v Speaker 1>Good eyes that out because that's about the most excitement

0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:01.120
<v Speaker 1>that we can talk about with this game, because right

0:44:01.160 --> 0:44:03.200
<v Speaker 1>now there have no expectations on the other side when

0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:05.920
<v Speaker 1>it comes to the Cowboys. Dak Prescott is out, the

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:09.000
<v Speaker 1>defense has been bad. You talked about playing out the string.

0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:11.360
<v Speaker 1>They're playing out the string in down.

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<v Speaker 2>Rets Ret's and he give me a reason to watch

0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:17.399
<v Speaker 2>this game, give me, give me a reason to want

0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:19.000
<v Speaker 2>to sit on the couch and take this one in.

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<v Speaker 5>DJ Stroud will remind you why he was the first

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:26.080
<v Speaker 5>tape we wanted to watch every week last year.

0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:30.719
<v Speaker 3>And it just hasn't last year. I know, man, I know,

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:31.600
<v Speaker 3>and I.

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:34.799
<v Speaker 5>Know that he misses having Nico Collins out there, But

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:35.960
<v Speaker 5>you know, I.

0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:37.799
<v Speaker 3>Think is Nico back this week.

0:44:37.840 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 4>I think feel like it might be might be back.

0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:44.359
<v Speaker 5>I think, yeah, so we'll you know, we'll see if

0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:48.239
<v Speaker 5>that rekindles some of that explosive downfield passing attack that

0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 5>we loved from the Texans a year ago and just

0:44:51.080 --> 0:44:54.719
<v Speaker 5>haven't seen enough consistently this year. They've really been a

0:44:54.760 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 5>team that runs through the run game with Joe Mixon

0:44:57.640 --> 0:44:59.800
<v Speaker 5>and well, that's that's fine, and Dany I still I want.

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 3>To see some of that that's spectacular c J. Stroudness

0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 3>in this game.

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<v Speaker 2>To I Uh, I've got to go because I've got

0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:10.640
<v Speaker 2>a text David Carr now that I have his phone

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:12.640
<v Speaker 2>number after all these years, and find out if this

0:45:12.760 --> 0:45:14.799
<v Speaker 2>is really true. I've just never asked.

0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:17.640
<v Speaker 3>I gotta still haven't asked, all right, confirmation.

0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:21.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna find that information out. That's my goal. All right.

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<v Speaker 2>This has been a fun one. I do want to

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<v Speaker 2>remind everybody we've got a bunch more shows coming this

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<v Speaker 2>week where we'll dig into quarterback change with the New

0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:30.319
<v Speaker 2>York Giants, amongst other topics. So planning to get to

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<v Speaker 2>this week, but we appreciate you hanging with us today

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<v Speaker 2>right here on move Stick