Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Welcome to Move the Sticks. DJ Bucky
Speaker 2: ret with you on a recap Monday here, coming off
Speaker 2: a short night for me, Chargers home game, night game,
Speaker 2: a lot of traffic. Apparently we had the triple header
Speaker 2: with be was Clippers concert Chargers night game. So Inglewood
Speaker 2: was a little congested getting out of there last night.
Speaker 2: Uh don't know who was.
Speaker 3: In the concert.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody stayed to the end. Everybody stayed in. It
Speaker 2: was a great atmosphere. Yeah, I bet. And by the way,
Speaker 2: Jason's in my ear telling me it's Sabrina Carpenter was
Speaker 2: at the was A the LA Forum. So the KIA
Speaker 2: form is that what it is? Now? I don't know
Speaker 2: it's ah might I think it is?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's the key.
Speaker 2: Yeah, packed house. We're gonna get to that game. That
Speaker 2: second on the list. Today, we're going to start with
Speaker 2: what was, you know, literally one of the best matchups
Speaker 2: in the regular season we've seen in the last half
Speaker 2: dozen years. If you look at where Kansas City was
Speaker 2: coming into this game at Buffalo, a game that felt
Speaker 2: man Buffalo had to have this for a whole host
Speaker 2: of reasons, but just to know that this collision is
Speaker 2: coming again into the future. Fascinating game there, Buck, I'll
Speaker 2: give you the first word on this one on what
Speaker 2: your takeaway.
Speaker 1: Was, Look big time, and I'll say we've talked about
Speaker 1: Josh Allen playing at a high level before, but this
Speaker 1: was big time, a big time performance for him.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I won't do like the overreaction Monday where everyone is like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, he's overtaken Pat Mahomes is the best
Speaker 1: player in the league in those things. But what I
Speaker 1: will say is the Pat Mahome experiment that the Buffalo
Speaker 1: Bills decided to use, meaning take away some of the
Speaker 1: notable names, make it maybe a little more comedye on
Speaker 1: the perimeter, It has allowed him to really be the
Speaker 1: best version of himself. We're seeing Josh Allen do things
Speaker 1: that we've seen before, but he's doing it in a
Speaker 1: more controlled manner. The running, the passing, utilizing all of
Speaker 1: the weapons, managing the game, all of that shows significant
Speaker 1: growth and maturity in his game, where he certainly is
Speaker 1: deserving of being in the conversation as MVP because he's
Speaker 1: playing that well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, Look, I don't think it's hyperbole to
Speaker 5: say that Josh Allen was the more dangerous player in
Speaker 5: this game. When you look at the way that the
Speaker 5: Chiefs were still able to get pressure on and twenty
Speaker 5: six pressures.
Speaker 3: On Josh Allen didn't sack him once.
Speaker 5: It just it felt like they were the more explosive team,
Speaker 5: certainly down the field in the past game.
Speaker 3: I mean dominant really in that category of it.
Speaker 5: And for a Chiefs offense that at times has been pedestrian,
Speaker 5: you ran up against the team that had a lot
Speaker 5: of different ways to go at you, and so much
Speaker 5: of that has to do with the number seventeen leading
Speaker 5: the way a quarterback. So I was really a fan
Speaker 5: of the way that Josh Allen played this game, and
Speaker 5: you know, knew when he needed to take off and
Speaker 5: go get yards for his team, like you did hear
Speaker 5: on this incredible touchdown run that was just kind of
Speaker 5: the exclamation point on the whole night for a day
Speaker 5: in which you look, he was better than Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 5: on this day.
Speaker 3: Not to say that he is a better player overall.
Speaker 5: I'm glad we get to see these guys go at
Speaker 5: it each and every year, and I'm excited to see
Speaker 5: him go at it again in the postseason if that
Speaker 5: comes to fruition.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I want to start on the Allen
Speaker 2: side of things. You just look at his legacy, what
Speaker 2: it looks like if they don't have that miraculously Casey
Speaker 2: comeback with. However many seconds were left on the clock.
Speaker 2: Uh in that playoff game. How differently we view Josh
Speaker 2: Allen And this is literally it is peer. It is
Speaker 2: peers with him and Patrick Mahomes if they're able to
Speaker 2: finish off that game. But you guys talked about the
Speaker 2: athleticism watching the tape on that They were on a
Speaker 2: lot of empty runs with Josh Allen. Some of them
Speaker 2: are scrambled, some of them are designed runs. But man,
Speaker 2: that is deadly. It's like it's like high school football
Speaker 2: where you just gonna spread. You're gonna put your biggest
Speaker 2: best athlete at quarterback. You're gonna spread the field, try
Speaker 2: and you know, get as many defenders away from the
Speaker 2: box as you can and then let him just do
Speaker 2: his thing. That was that was impressive watching that. On
Speaker 2: On the Buffalo side of things, I do want to
Speaker 2: when we get to the Bears game a little bit
Speaker 2: later on, I do want to talk about scrambling quarterbacks
Speaker 2: and how maybe there's some negativity skewed towards Oh, you know,
Speaker 2: we need to play on time, play on schedule. If
Speaker 2: you're scrambling around, then you don't you know, that's not
Speaker 2: why the game's played. I've got some interesting stats on that.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that when we get to the Bears thing.
Speaker 2: But I do want to get to the chief side
Speaker 2: of things here. Patrick Mahomes last year sacked twenty seven
Speaker 2: times sixteen games. Patrick Mahomes been sacked twenty two times
Speaker 2: and ten games this year. Only sacked a couple times
Speaker 2: in this ballgame. But this is an offensive line that's
Speaker 2: deteriorating from what they were from as dominant as they
Speaker 2: were when he first got going twenty eighteen, those early
Speaker 2: Chiefs offenses, which we're averaging I want, I believe two
Speaker 2: touchdowns more than this team is averaging. And a lot
Speaker 2: of it we've talked about the weaponry or this, that
Speaker 2: and the other. This offensive line buck is nothing like
Speaker 2: it was early on. Here. The tackles are not good
Speaker 2: and it puts a lot of pressure on him and
Speaker 2: you're not going to have a vertical passing game if
Speaker 2: you can't secure the edges, and that's that's been a big,
Speaker 2: big problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a huge problem because you talk about
Speaker 1: they've tried to commit to it. So Wanie Morris playing
Speaker 1: on one side, Juwan Taylor who they paid big money
Speaker 1: for from the Jaguars to.
Speaker 4: Put at the other tackle, like, they have not been
Speaker 4: able to secure the edges.
Speaker 1: The interview three are solid, but the edges that's problematic
Speaker 1: because you're right, DJ, you can't sit in the pocket
Speaker 1: for long and push the ball down the field. He's
Speaker 1: always under pressure and the rest and so he never
Speaker 1: can get comfortable and even though he likes to improvise,
Speaker 1: it's still the big part of Pat Mahomes that played
Speaker 1: really well on schedule and they lose that part of
Speaker 1: the game. And so yeah, it's a big problem going in.
Speaker 1: And the Chiefs are different because they don't have a
Speaker 1: tie end that they can waste by leaving in protection.
Speaker 1: They don't have someone that can say, oh, we're gonna
Speaker 1: let you chip and do all these other things their
Speaker 1: best when all of the guys are eligible in the route.
Speaker 4: It's something that we know Andy Reid will address.
Speaker 1: It's been exposed and he'll continue to tweak and refine
Speaker 1: how they go about it. But it's a huge issue
Speaker 1: and as to one thing that could keep them from going.
Speaker 4: To making that three pet that some of us are
Speaker 4: pining for.
Speaker 5: Look, it does, in a way feel like where this
Speaker 5: team was when they ran up in the COVID season
Speaker 5: against the Tampa Bay Bucks and lost the Super Bowl
Speaker 5: because the locker Bucks absolutely got after him off the
Speaker 5: edges right and they went and that's when they went
Speaker 5: and made the addition to go get Joan Taylor. And
Speaker 5: then they went and made the addition to go get
Speaker 5: Orlando Brown, and then that was short lived. And now
Speaker 5: they're kind of recycling that process again, and I think
Speaker 5: we're kind of back to where they were before.
Speaker 3: Now here's the thing.
Speaker 5: Kingsley Suwamatilla is not the answer this year, and they
Speaker 5: figure out a way for him to be an answer
Speaker 5: for them at one of the tackles moving forward. I
Speaker 5: would say that's probably at least still a possibility. It
Speaker 5: doesn't feel like it's certainly the way that we'll find
Speaker 5: them success this year. So how do they minimize that
Speaker 5: moving forward? I think is really where you have to
Speaker 5: look if you're the Chiefs at this.
Speaker 2: Point, Yeah, Well, it's not the last time we're going
Speaker 2: to see these teams together. They're going to meet up
Speaker 2: again in the postseason and we'll see again. Only one
Speaker 2: loss separates them in the lost column, and now Buffalo
Speaker 2: has a tiebreaker. So we just to see how this
Speaker 2: season unfolds for both these ball clubs going forward. All right,
Speaker 2: let's get to the Senna night game that I was
Speaker 2: at Chargers and the Cincinnati Bengals. I'll start on the
Speaker 2: Charger side of things. You know, calling their games for
Speaker 2: seven years, I've seen the Chargers lose this game a
Speaker 2: dozen times, if not more, where things start going bad
Speaker 2: and they can't stop the bleeding. This was different last night.
Speaker 2: They get out to a big lead. Offense was really clicking.
Speaker 2: I mean, I thought you had a quarterback and a
Speaker 2: coordinator with Herbert and Greg Roman in sinc they were
Speaker 2: running the ball with the you know, just in terms
Speaker 2: of committing to the run. But then they were going
Speaker 2: heavy boxes play action and hitting shots Will Disley down
Speaker 2: the steam. You had Quinton Johnson getting another touchdown, but
Speaker 2: they were just loading up the box. And then they're
Speaker 2: getting a little pull from the second level off play action,
Speaker 2: and then they're letting Herbert attack vertically and then Herbert
Speaker 2: using his legs has been a nice component to this offense.
Speaker 2: So anyways, all clicking second half, they get out of rhythm,
Speaker 2: they can't find it. Herbert has a fumble on a run,
Speaker 2: he misses some throws, the defense has given up points. It's,
Speaker 2: you know, Joe Burrow's playing out of his mind as
Speaker 2: he has all season long, and just felt it slipping away.
Speaker 2: They get a couple miskicks, but then when they had
Speaker 2: to have a drive, you know Herbert can can do
Speaker 2: it within you know, two three plays. It's just really
Speaker 2: two throws to Lad McConkey, who's been excellent and who's
Speaker 2: someone I think is going to be a high, high,
Speaker 2: high end two, if not a lower one.
Speaker 3: But Buck.
Speaker 2: I was watching them, and I've said this for a
Speaker 2: few weeks now to Money up there in the booth
Speaker 2: is when I watch this Chargers team, it feels like
Speaker 2: I'm watching the Lions of like a year or two ago. Man,
Speaker 2: like they are. You can see where this is headed,
Speaker 2: and they're going to get some more skill around this group.
Speaker 2: But man, it's exciting to see. This is kind of
Speaker 2: the ground floor and it's it's going to be a
Speaker 2: playoff team when they're here on year one.
Speaker 1: So the comments that I heard after the game, I
Speaker 1: heard Joey Bosa talk about like their culture and how
Speaker 1: they believe that the work and the preparation that they
Speaker 1: do puts them in a position to win games, and
Speaker 1: they feel like something specialist brewing hearing the other comments
Speaker 1: from some of the other players saying that in the
Speaker 1: past we have lost this game, but we just know
Speaker 1: that we're so connected and so together that we were
Speaker 1: going to find a way to win it.
Speaker 4: To me, they are.
Speaker 1: All in on their leader, and that connectivity between players
Speaker 1: and coach is essential. The fact that they believe in
Speaker 1: Jim Harbor and he's done a really good job of
Speaker 1: creating an environment where they do buy into the work,
Speaker 1: the toughness, the physicality in those things. DJ, they don't
Speaker 1: even have the pieces of the puzzle yet, right, So
Speaker 1: you talked about, you know the guys they brought over
Speaker 1: lab McConkie.
Speaker 4: They got JK.
Speaker 1: Dobb and Gus Everards and all those guys, but they
Speaker 1: haven't upgraded. They've tried to flush out the salary cap
Speaker 1: situation and just win with what they could. So when
Speaker 1: this team is really constructed the way that they want
Speaker 1: it to be, It's gonna be a problem. And that energy,
Speaker 1: that attitude, that toughness that they bring it certainly is
Speaker 1: going to be a thorn in the side of the
Speaker 1: other opponents in the AFC West.
Speaker 5: And I would look at it as you know, all right,
Speaker 5: you've is you make the analogy with the Lions DJ,
Speaker 5: It's like, okay, well, how can you hold on to
Speaker 5: the majority of this and push it forward? And I
Speaker 5: think one of the big, you know, things that you're
Speaker 5: gonna have to hold on to is Jesse Minter, defensive
Speaker 5: coordinator for the Chargers, has just done a phenomenal job.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, he's got some great players back there.
Speaker 5: I get that, but man, he is who ordinated this
Speaker 5: this unit very well.
Speaker 3: I mean, like generated thirty six pressures.
Speaker 5: They generated pressure on Joe Burrow almost seventy percent of
Speaker 5: his pass attempts back there, Which kind of brings me
Speaker 5: to the point for Cincinnati, like they're not altogether in
Speaker 5: much different of a spot than the Kansas City Chiefs
Speaker 5: were after their Super Bowl run. Remember the year before
Speaker 5: the Bengals went to the Super Bowl, they kind of
Speaker 5: remade that offensive line made a bunch of those those
Speaker 5: free agent acquisitions, but now it feels like they're kind
Speaker 5: of back in a spot where they're giving up pressures
Speaker 5: all over the place, Burrows taking hits and he's got
Speaker 5: to be superhuman back there trying to complete some of
Speaker 5: these passes under duress.
Speaker 3: That's just not sustainable. And we're going to be in.
Speaker 5: A position here where you're getting your quarterback knocked around
Speaker 5: again and the last thing you want to do is
Speaker 5: see him, you know, have to miss time like he
Speaker 5: did each of the last couple of years. So you know,
Speaker 5: as you look at that, it's kind of like a
Speaker 5: cause and effect Chargers again, exposing where the Bengals are
Speaker 5: from a pass protection situation. And you know, the Chargers
Speaker 5: defense has just flat out really good and would be
Speaker 5: a big reason why they are a playoff team. But
Speaker 5: here's the thing that was a little concerning to me, guys,
Speaker 5: and I'd love to get your opinion on this. You've
Speaker 5: listened to all the comments from Bengals players after the game,
Speaker 5: Jamar Chase, maybe with some of.
Speaker 3: The most you know, explosive.
Speaker 5: It feels like a team that's unraveling, you know, and look,
Speaker 5: maybe some of what he's saying isn't wrong. But do
Speaker 5: you go out there and say it, like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: you paid McPherson go out and make the dang kicks.
Speaker 5: I get it, he didn't make the kicks. You know,
Speaker 5: you pay Zach Taylor to help get this team in
Speaker 5: a framework to go finish games.
Speaker 3: They're not finishing games right now.
Speaker 5: But it's not like you and you and you, it's
Speaker 5: it's us, and that to me feels like that's not
Speaker 5: the messaging that's happening in Cincinnati, and there's no way
Speaker 5: they recover from this if it keeps getting singled out, you,
Speaker 5: singled out you.
Speaker 3: All I got to do is worry about me. That's
Speaker 3: that is not one.
Speaker 2: So I wouldn't plan on going into this direction. This
Speaker 2: might take us a minute here, so I have to
Speaker 2: ask for some patience. But if we were talking on
Speaker 2: here the last couple of weeks and Buck, I know
Speaker 2: we've had this conversation about Ben Johnson and we've made
Speaker 2: the case that hey, unless he gets blown away, just
Speaker 2: just just make Detroit pay it, you know, head coach
Speaker 2: money to stay as the offensive coordinator because it's just
Speaker 2: so hard to find the right fit for you to
Speaker 2: be successful. And if you look at the jobs that
Speaker 2: might pop up, and we know who the where those
Speaker 2: jobs are, we know who the quarterbacks for those teams are,
Speaker 2: and there's some intriguing names. There's nothing like Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2: Burrow and seeing it in person. You mentioned those pressure
Speaker 2: numbers rhet He is an assassin. He is a stone
Speaker 2: cold killer to the point where as great as Josh
Speaker 2: Allen and his greatest Mahomes, both those guys are I'm
Speaker 2: not if you give me equal talent, I'm not. I
Speaker 2: don't know that I'm picking against Joe Burrow. So if
Speaker 2: i'm if, I'm the Bengals, and I'm never going to
Speaker 2: advocate for anybody to lose their job. And I think
Speaker 2: there's a lot of other issues with this team, but
Speaker 2: if they did make a change, to me, that is
Speaker 2: easily the most desirable job that would be available. And
Speaker 2: if I was Ben Johnson, I would call them before
Speaker 2: they called me.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, I thought they extended Zach Taylor
Speaker 1: where it would make it almost cost prohibitive.
Speaker 4: Knowing the Bengals, and that's.
Speaker 2: Not the way they normally do business, and that's that's
Speaker 2: not business.
Speaker 4: Will I will say this about what Red is talking about.
Speaker 1: And I would say the comments that come off as selfish, no,
Speaker 1: they are selfish from Jamar Chase. Here's what happens when
Speaker 1: you run the risk of not playing pain your players
Speaker 1: before you get into the season. So now all of
Speaker 1: those feelings of feeling disrespected and that stuff, you're seeing
Speaker 1: it not in their performance, but the body language and
Speaker 1: the actions of T Higgins and Jamar Chase. At some point,
Speaker 1: you want to try and keep the family together and
Speaker 1: keep the family happy. And I know we're talking about
Speaker 1: businesses business, but I feel like they're disjointed because of
Speaker 1: contract negotiations that have gone awry. And now you're just
Speaker 1: having them say, well, I don't really care. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get mine, I want to be healthy, I want
Speaker 1: to put up numbers, and then whatever happens to the
Speaker 1: team happens with the team. And that's not a way
Speaker 1: that a team can be successful in this eraor yeah.
Speaker 2: Look, look guys, I mean this is a situation for
Speaker 2: the Bengals. It's just man, they've lost so many close games,
Speaker 2: and you know, I think you're seeing some of the
Speaker 2: frustration that comes from that. Look at the Ravens game,
Speaker 2: you look at the Chiefs game. You look at this game.
Speaker 2: They've had opportunities, haven't been able to get it done.
Speaker 2: So I think that's why all this stuff is really
Speaker 2: starting to bubble up. All right, let's keep it moving
Speaker 2: here and let's get to another big time game, big
Speaker 2: time performance by the Pittsburgh Steelers. They take care of
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens in a field goal fest. For the Steelers,
Speaker 2: they didn't finish drives, didn't get things done the way
Speaker 2: they wanted to. But this is a game ret where
Speaker 2: they controlled the clock, They had the ball for thirty
Speaker 2: six minutes, twenty two minutes for the Baltimore Ravens, and
Speaker 2: Baltimore penalties twelve turnovers three. There's your ball game.
Speaker 3: There's really no other way to describe it.
Speaker 5: This was a mistake game, full of mistakes for the
Speaker 5: Ravens and uncharacteristic like mistakes. You would talk about the
Speaker 5: turnovers and the penalty shore, but how about the two
Speaker 5: misses in the second quarter for Justin Tucker, the most
Speaker 5: accurate kicker and NFL history, is now barely middle of
Speaker 5: the road in field goal made percentage so far this season.
Speaker 5: I mean miss back to back kicks, Sure not gimme's
Speaker 5: forty seven and fifty yarder, but those were I mean,
Speaker 5: in Tucker's landscape, those are gimmes and so he's had
Speaker 5: some misses now this year. And it starts, oh boy,
Speaker 5: there's a drop obviously concentration drop for Zave Flowers. He
Speaker 5: made up for it with a touchdown later, but it
Speaker 5: just it felt like from the jump Derek Henry fumbles
Speaker 5: on his second carry and it was like, holy smokes,
Speaker 5: you know that the onsought of negativity was just really
Speaker 5: hard for the Ravens to overcome, even though they went
Speaker 5: down and scored and we're leading at the half and
Speaker 5: just just couldn't find a way to take advantage of
Speaker 5: the Steelers kind of keeping them in the game and
Speaker 5: ultimately Steelers find a way to win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is frustrated for the Baltimore Ravens because this
Speaker 1: is a team that has been so good this season,
Speaker 1: but the issues that have hurt them in the games
Speaker 1: that they've lost are the dbos, don't beat ourselves, turnovers, penalties.
Speaker 4: Big plays allowed. When you do that, you're gonna lose games.
Speaker 1: Twelve pen is too many penalties, too many self inflicted mistakes,
Speaker 1: three turnovers plus two additional miskicks which we could really
Speaker 1: count as turnovers. It's just hard to win when you
Speaker 1: have so many mistakes. And they'll look at the tape
Speaker 1: and they're going to kick themselves knowing they didn't give
Speaker 1: themselves a chance to win because they had so many
Speaker 1: egregious errors that they have to eliminate. And so the
Speaker 1: next time they see the Pittsburgh Steelers, we'll see if
Speaker 1: they can tighten it up. But the Stealers feel so
Speaker 1: confident whenever they see the Baltimore Ravens and Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, they just have a hold over this
Speaker 1: team and the Bravens somehow have to get past it.
Speaker 2: And a lot of times it's games like this one.
Speaker 2: Remember remember last year all the drop passes that Baltimore
Speaker 2: had at Pittsburgh as they Flowers had to drop touchdown
Speaker 2: in that game last year. I mean they they just
Speaker 2: something about the Pittsburgh Steelers brings out some funky stuff
Speaker 2: from the Ravens. And I do think there is I
Speaker 2: think with Lamar Jackson and the rest of the league,
Speaker 2: or most of the league, I should say there's a
Speaker 2: fear factor. You don't see a lot of them, and
Speaker 2: when you do it's like, oh gosh, okay, hey, be disciplined,
Speaker 2: don't get caught out of your lanes. You're cautious to
Speaker 2: rush the quarterback, you know, you just there's a fear
Speaker 2: factor there. And I think familiarity buck, I know, I
Speaker 2: know your Dodgers beat my Podres. But the but the
Speaker 2: Potteries don't have any There's no awe, there's no fear factory.
Speaker 2: If they see him, they see them all the time.
Speaker 2: So like it takes away some of that. It takes
Speaker 2: away some of that when you have a team of
Speaker 2: foe that you're so familiar with.
Speaker 1: Well, now, yeah, because they go after him, they say
Speaker 1: in pressure they come after him.
Speaker 2: They don't, Uh, they're not scared on their heels like,
Speaker 2: oh what's he going to do?
Speaker 4: They're not at all.
Speaker 1: But I think the thing that stood up to me
Speaker 1: was uh, Mike Tomlin playing the motivational tactics, first sending
Speaker 1: Patrick Queen out for the coin toss and making sure
Speaker 1: he praised them at everything, talking about one man's trash
Speaker 1: is another man's treasure. You knew Patrick Queen was going
Speaker 1: to be on ten, and they come up with that
Speaker 1: big turnover, uh to rip the ball away and to
Speaker 1: make the play that he had to make to kind
Speaker 1: of seal the game is huge. And so when you
Speaker 1: get a motivated guy like that, that's exactly what you want.
Speaker 1: And so the Pittsburgh still is I have a young
Speaker 1: collection of playmakers that are emerging. Look, they people will
Speaker 1: not talk about them being the best team in the AFC,
Speaker 1: but man, they gonna be a tough team to deal
Speaker 1: within the postseason because they just play a stout that
Speaker 1: is so different than everybody else is they ugly up
Speaker 1: the game and they know how to win these ugly games.
Speaker 5: And that was the other thing I'll go back and
Speaker 5: just kind of clarify again. You know, you felt like
Speaker 5: the Ravens, despite all their issues early in the game,
Speaker 5: We're going to take the lead into the half seven
Speaker 5: to six after scoring a touchdown late. But then they
Speaker 5: get the ball back and they fumble deep in their
Speaker 5: own end and you give the Steelers a chance with
Speaker 5: just seconds remaining in the first half, a chance to
Speaker 5: kick the field goal from Chris Boswell, and then end
Speaker 5: up still having the lead nine to seven at the
Speaker 5: end of the first thirty minutes. Like that was so
Speaker 5: descriptive of the way this game ended. Up going for Baltimore.
Speaker 5: Like every time you'd find a way to generate some positivity,
Speaker 5: something would pull you back. They two steps forward, one
Speaker 5: step back, and it just ultimately it came back to
Speaker 5: bite him.
Speaker 3: So this was Pittsburgh's first.
Speaker 5: Division game of the season, so we've gotten much more
Speaker 5: of this still to come. But man, Ravens will look
Speaker 5: to turn the tide and they get him in Baltimore.
Speaker 2: And I don't know that it was a cruise to
Speaker 2: victory for the Green Bay Packers. It was definitely not
Speaker 2: a cruise for the Chicago Bears to defeat. But this
Speaker 2: was a game I teased this earlier, and I want
Speaker 2: to lead with this because I want to start first
Speaker 2: of all, on the Caleb Williams side of things. In
Speaker 2: this game they lose, Bears lose twenty nineteen. I start first.
Speaker 2: They if they make a kick in this game and
Speaker 2: they don't just completely flub on the Hail Mary against Washington,
Speaker 2: these are two signature comeback wins for Caleb Williams. Late
Speaker 2: drives to lead the Bears to victory. As a Bears
Speaker 2: team that's six and four. If that's the case, Man,
Speaker 2: the vibe is so different. It just shows you how
Speaker 2: narrow the line is here between being a hero and
Speaker 2: a goat. But Buck, I want to get to you
Speaker 2: on this point because this is a saucing nug for you.
Speaker 2: I was looking this up because I was thinking about
Speaker 2: just playing on time and the importance of playing on
Speaker 2: time and playing within structure, and how much we talk
Speaker 2: about that and how that had been. You know, it's
Speaker 2: a lot of discussion about Caleb. It needs to get
Speaker 2: more comfortable in that regard. So I said, okay, well,
Speaker 2: if we're going to kind of label guys who scramble
Speaker 2: around as maybe that's not the way you win games
Speaker 2: in this league, let me give you the top scramblers
Speaker 2: in the NFL who scrambled the most. Number one is
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels, followed by Brock Perdy, Bo Nicks, Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, Patrick Mahomes. Those are the top
Speaker 2: scramblers in the NFL. So, and all those guys, even
Speaker 2: with Bonix being a young player, they're all those quarterbacks
Speaker 2: are playing at a very high level. And if you
Speaker 2: were to go longer on that list, I could make
Speaker 2: a case that ten of the eleven are playing at
Speaker 2: a high level. Guys that are scrambling around. So I
Speaker 2: don't know that we need to remove scrambling from Caleb.
Speaker 2: I think what we saw in this game, which was encouraging,
Speaker 2: which was whatever you're going to do, do it, you know,
Speaker 2: don't get The worst thing you can do is just
Speaker 2: get stuck back there. So if you want to get
Speaker 2: the ball out your hands quick, get it out of
Speaker 2: your hands quick. If you don't like it, then go
Speaker 2: use your legs and make something happen. But be more decisive.
Speaker 2: And I thought that was a positive take away from
Speaker 2: me with this Bears game. I don't think you need to.
Speaker 2: I think there was some part of him maybe and
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're telling this or maybe just subconsciously,
Speaker 2: it's like I've got to put my feet and cement
Speaker 2: back here to prove that I'm something, you know, And
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's not the way the NFL plays anymore. Man,
Speaker 2: you don't have to do that now.
Speaker 1: What's interesting is his comments after the game when you
Speaker 1: talked about Thomas Brown in the Biggest Change, and he
Speaker 1: just talked about Thomas Brown's decisiveness, decisiveness with his play
Speaker 1: calls in and out the huddle, the.
Speaker 4: Way that he seeks the calls he just said.
Speaker 1: It was more up tempo, on pace in terms of
Speaker 1: just the operation in and out the huddle. Like Thomas
Speaker 1: knew exactly what he wanted to get to and it
Speaker 1: allowed him to be more decisive, which is my why
Speaker 1: you may have see him, why we may have witnessed
Speaker 1: a more decisive player inside and outside the pocket. When
Speaker 1: you take a player like Kayleb Williams, you have to
Speaker 1: take him knowing the player that you got at USC
Speaker 1: is the player that is going to show up in Chicago,
Speaker 1: and your job is to build around what he showed
Speaker 1: at SC and if he plays like he played yesterday.
Speaker 4: Then you continue to build it out.
Speaker 1: But it's about teaching him how to be decisive, making
Speaker 1: decisions fast and going with it.
Speaker 4: Don't make him something that he's not.
Speaker 3: Yeah looking, you know.
Speaker 5: On the Packers side of things, you know, they come
Speaker 5: up with a win here, remain within striking distance of
Speaker 5: the Detroit Lions. But the more I kind of watched
Speaker 5: you know, Green Bay and then Detroit, which we'll get
Speaker 5: to here in just a couple of minutes, it does
Speaker 5: feel like the gap is fairly significant there, especially you know,
Speaker 5: with the fact that Jordan Love can't quite get rid
Speaker 5: of these turnovers. He's now had an interception in every
Speaker 5: game this season, and it just happened to come down
Speaker 5: in the red area. Intercepted near the goal line, they're
Speaker 5: thwarting a scoring opportunity. And then actually the Packers turned
Speaker 5: it over on downs down in the red area as well.
Speaker 5: So for them to be a viable post season contender
Speaker 5: that you can trust, it does feel like they've got
Speaker 5: to find a way here to get this offense to
Speaker 5: finish with points on the board and not with those
Speaker 5: some of those costly turnovers in there where you are
Speaker 5: taking away the opportunity to score some points.
Speaker 3: So otherwise like it was a fairly efficient day. They
Speaker 3: didn't have the ball very much.
Speaker 5: Only twenty three minutes of top in this one for
Speaker 5: green Bay and just seventeen pass attempts.
Speaker 3: For Jordan Love.
Speaker 5: So they figure out a way to minimize those turnovers,
Speaker 5: and I think you'll have a much better opportunity for
Speaker 5: Green Bay to try to make a run at this thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I looked that they gave up nineteen points. I
Speaker 2: don't want to ding their defense, but Chicago was nine
Speaker 2: to sixteen on third down and this has been an
Speaker 2: offense that is obviously massively struggling. So that was a
Speaker 2: little bit of a concern on the on the Green
Speaker 2: Bay side of things that weren't able to get off
Speaker 2: the field and weren't able to get off the field
Speaker 2: late either bailed out by you know, the block field
Speaker 2: goal attempt. But that that you know, and we'll get it.
Speaker 2: This will get us into this next game here before
Speaker 2: we get into Jacksonville Detroit. But just go around the
Speaker 2: horn real quick, because I'll get both your takes on it.
Speaker 2: To me, it feels like NFC Detroit's in a tier
Speaker 2: all by themselves nobody. I think they're playing much better
Speaker 2: in a belt. I think Philadelphia is behind them. I
Speaker 2: think I don't think there's anybody close to Philadelphia. Is
Speaker 2: the point I'm gonna make, Like, I feel like it's
Speaker 2: those two teams, however much distance we want to disagree on,
Speaker 2: like how much difference there is between Detroit and Philly.
Speaker 2: That might be closer, like you said, but but I
Speaker 2: think after those two teams, it feels like there's I
Speaker 2: don't think Green Bay. I think they're significantly Minnesota.
Speaker 4: You don't feel like Minnesota.
Speaker 2: I don't trust Minnesota. We'll get to Minnesota. There's something
Speaker 2: there that I don't trust, and it really is more
Speaker 2: about their defense. When their defense plays the better quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: I think that that sell out, you know, way of
Speaker 2: playing defense against top tier quarterbacks is going to be
Speaker 2: a dangerous way to live. But that's my opinion there.
Speaker 2: But do you think those two are cut above everybody else?
Speaker 3: Buck?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the only thing I would say, I think those
Speaker 1: who are definitely there. I put Minnesota right there with
Speaker 1: Philadelphia because I would say that their defense being able
Speaker 1: to create turnovers in those things, and it is a
Speaker 1: Gopher broke style of play I'm more of. I think
Speaker 1: their postseason hopes hange on Sam Donald's play and watching
Speaker 1: him a week ago and then talking to some of
Speaker 1: the people around the building. They just said like, hey,
Speaker 1: if he plays within himself, we can win and knock
Speaker 1: off any team. He just has to make sure that
Speaker 1: he stays within the boundaries his limitations. If he does that,
Speaker 1: they can win. So I'm just more worried about Sam
Speaker 1: Donald in the postseason.
Speaker 4: Can he just continue to be the player that he was?
Speaker 1: The player there was Yesterday's certainly good enough to help
Speaker 1: them win against any team.
Speaker 4: That's the only thing.
Speaker 1: But I think Minnesota, Philly and Detroit, but Detroit way
Speaker 1: up there over the other two.
Speaker 2: RTT you want in on that just in terms of know,
Speaker 2: what do you think the pecking order is there? Real
Speaker 2: quick and then we'll keep it moving.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you guys are right on the Other
Speaker 5: thing that I would say, and it's a huge if,
Speaker 5: and it's a major caveat, is that there's gonna be
Speaker 5: a team out west in whether it's the Cardinals, whether
Speaker 5: it's the Rams, it is all of the are all
Speaker 5: there healthy, and then the Niners, Like I just don't
Speaker 5: know if I'm ready to count them out either. I
Speaker 5: feel like there's gonna be a team in the West.
Speaker 5: And man, when Matthew Stafford is on like he was
Speaker 5: with Kup and Nakua yesterday, that's that's some good offense
Speaker 5: out there in the NFC.
Speaker 3: I put that right up there with everybody else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And not just to put a bow on it.
Speaker 2: With Minnesota Golf and Stafford the two quarterbacks who beat them,
Speaker 2: And that's what I worry about, is those the type
Speaker 2: of quarterbacks you're going to run into in the postseason
Speaker 2: and you want to sell out and play that aggressive,
Speaker 2: They'll make you pay with really good quarterbacks. Jacksonville Detroit
Speaker 2: buck full disclosure when I you know, when I look
Speaker 2: at all the games and I'm trying to figure out
Speaker 2: what I'm gonna watch, and I prioritize I did not
Speaker 2: watch lick a film of this game, because I was
Speaker 2: just going to let you take the floor and tell
Speaker 2: me what you saw in person. I wasn't gonna subject
Speaker 2: myself to that.
Speaker 1: Okay, So what I saw was every year in the
Speaker 1: college football season, you put a game on the schedule
Speaker 1: where you're just trying to work through the kings. You
Speaker 1: know you're gonna beat the team, but you're trying to
Speaker 1: work everything out. I feel like Detroit put the Jacks
Speaker 1: on the schedule to do just that. The way that
Speaker 1: they attack the Jack wall from beginning to end.
Speaker 4: From beginning to in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is an old school a let's bring them in,
Speaker 1: we're gonna pay.
Speaker 4: Them, fly the way, give them a buffet, pre and post, or.
Speaker 1: We're gonna beat them down. That's how they did it.
Speaker 1: But in reality, here's what I'll say about the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 1: I believe the Detroit Lions are a perfectly constructed team.
Speaker 1: To be a title contender. On offense, they can play
Speaker 1: a variety of ways that gives.
Speaker 4: Them multiple paths to be able to win.
Speaker 1: They can run it, they can throw it, they can
Speaker 1: play with power, they can play with finesse. Defensively, they've
Speaker 1: really come on and the loss of eight and Hutchinson
Speaker 1: is significant, but they found a way to do. What
Speaker 1: we talked about last week is rush the quarterback by committee,
Speaker 1: but in the back end they are terrific.
Speaker 4: Brian Branch is everything that we thought he did.
Speaker 1: I don't know why he didn't go in the first round,
Speaker 1: but the guy plays like a first rounder all day,
Speaker 1: every day. And then Kirby Joseph who plays alongside of them,
Speaker 1: They may be the best safety tenem in the business
Speaker 1: because they do a great job of working off of
Speaker 1: one another.
Speaker 5: So the way that I look at this now is yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean you painted the picture.
Speaker 3: That's that's what happened in the game.
Speaker 5: The Lions far superior on paper and in this game
Speaker 5: right now, what do you do? What are we doing
Speaker 5: it for the Jaguars here? So how do we figure
Speaker 5: this thing out?
Speaker 3: Right? What do you build around?
Speaker 5: If you look at the pieces that you just that
Speaker 5: are must haves moving forward next year. Trevor Lawrence certainly
Speaker 5: tied to him after the big contract. Brian Thomas has
Speaker 5: proved to be a major player this past year. Is
Speaker 5: the first round draft pick. I think outside of that,
Speaker 5: I mean, you're hoping Anton Harrison can be a guy
Speaker 5: at tackle after being a first round pick in twenty three.
Speaker 5: But like and then on defense is Trayvon Walker and
Speaker 5: Josh Heines Allen mm hm am I missing anybody that
Speaker 5: that we must have?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: Here's my here's my question. Here's my question. So if
Speaker 2: you're the Jags and the highest you have, the two
Speaker 2: highest rated players on your board are ones a wide
Speaker 2: receiver and one's a corner? Who are you taking? Trick questions?
Speaker 2: Just one player? You're taking Travis Hunter? And now we
Speaker 2: have Travis with BTJ out there as well as we're
Speaker 2: getting him some work on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 2: What's that, Coach Belichick? What was that play called? Okay,
Speaker 2: I got it all of a sudden, Now, Jags, this
Speaker 2: sounds a little different and looks a little all sudden.
Speaker 2: Trevors there, that would be that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you, But here's what I'll say. I'll
Speaker 1: say this like with a little envy sitting on one
Speaker 1: sideline looking over the other. The complete buy in that
Speaker 1: the Alliance have had, from top to bottom, front office,
Speaker 1: coaching staff, the players that they have. There's a clear
Speaker 1: vision of how they want to play. There's a clear
Speaker 1: vision of the type of players that they want and
Speaker 1: their style. You feel, DJ, it's a rare opportunity where
Speaker 1: you get a chance to see the backups go in.
Speaker 1: I guess so when the backups went in, the energy
Speaker 1: and the attitude did not change. They were out to
Speaker 1: literally bust the clock. And I mean, I'm just mo.
Speaker 1: Gay comes in in the fourth corner, He's running. I'm like,
Speaker 1: who is this? And oh, by the way, as fast
Speaker 1: as you think Jamiir Gibbs is, he is that much.
Speaker 1: He might be the quickest running back I've ever seen
Speaker 1: in terms of on that turf.
Speaker 4: He is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Like that combination they have in the backfield with him
Speaker 1: and David Montgomery is tough.
Speaker 4: They are a really good team and they are locked in.
Speaker 2: All right, guys, let's get through a rip of games here.
Speaker 2: We can get through a bunch of more games here
Speaker 2: with the time we've got left Minnesota Tennessee RTT. What
Speaker 2: was what was your takeaway here?
Speaker 5: Vikings did enough, you know, Vikings did enough and found
Speaker 5: a way to minimize mistakes, you know, and got Jordan
Speaker 5: Addison going a little bit after he had a quiet
Speaker 5: spell for a couple of weeks, had a couple of
Speaker 5: big catches in this game. And look, I think the
Speaker 5: one other thing that I come away with here is
Speaker 5: Tennessee plays hard man, especially on defense. That is a
Speaker 5: good looking group. Jeffrey Simmons again is a game wrecker.
Speaker 5: But the Vikings found a way. And here's the thing, like,
Speaker 5: if you're the Tennessee Titans and you can't run the
Speaker 5: ball all and you've got a quarterback like Will Levis
Speaker 5: like we kind of been talking about, does not fit
Speaker 5: the bill yet of those of those elite passers that
Speaker 5: can find a way to make you pay when you're
Speaker 5: bringing that aggressive pressure that the Vikings do. So no
Speaker 5: run game, not yet a quarterback who can deal with
Speaker 5: that kind of pressure.
Speaker 3: You're in a lot of trouble. And that's what it
Speaker 3: felt like to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of trouble, a lot of problems.
Speaker 1: Sam Donald bouncing back after watching him basically keep the
Speaker 1: Jaguars in it the week before he came back, played.
Speaker 4: More discipline ball.
Speaker 1: That's the Sam Donald that needs to show up for
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings. If they do that, they're good enough
Speaker 1: to win and make a deep postseason run.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean one of the big concerns I had was
Speaker 2: with Darrisaw going down and missing Darrisaw button. You make
Speaker 2: a trade Cam Robinson, right, Cam Robinson's playing one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Cam Robinson comes over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, So that was and he's hanging on in there,
Speaker 2: and he's hanging on in there, so that was a
Speaker 2: good move. All right, Let's get to Seattle, San Francisco. Buck.
Speaker 2: This is a big win in a very clustered and
Speaker 2: crowded NFC West. But that's a g. I shouldn't say good.
Speaker 2: That's a great win for the Seattle Seahawks to go
Speaker 2: on the road and knock off the Niners.
Speaker 1: Yeah, great win for the series. But I'm gonna stay
Speaker 1: on the Niner side. It may be time to hit
Speaker 1: the panic button. This is a team where we knew
Speaker 1: that the Super Bowl hangover would probably be kind of
Speaker 1: in play. And look, they're five and five and a
Speaker 1: team that has been able to really kind of do
Speaker 1: what they want to do against most opponents. Offensively, they're
Speaker 1: not the same. They can't impose their wheel and the defense,
Speaker 1: which has always been like part of the formula, like
Speaker 1: run the ball, play great defense in those things, they're
Speaker 1: not getting the same kind of contributions from the defense
Speaker 1: that they've gotten in the past. To me, if the
Speaker 1: Noters are going to get back to being the team
Speaker 1: that we talk about being in the conversation to win
Speaker 1: the NFC, they got to get back to being who
Speaker 1: they are from an identity standpoint, physical run game, selective
Speaker 1: play make and on play action and in defense playing
Speaker 1: LIFs out. They're not doing They're not checking the boxes
Speaker 1: in any of those areas right now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, the one thing I'll say, DJ and
Speaker 5: I know you know you and I kind of talked
Speaker 5: about this and it just has not felt like the
Speaker 5: same forty nine ers run game for the last what
Speaker 5: six eight weeks of this season. And obviously this is
Speaker 5: just Christian McCaffrey's second game back, and you've get to
Speaker 5: play a game and won't play a game where you
Speaker 5: have CMC burning then I UK, Indebo Samuel all together
Speaker 5: all at once. Same with George Kittle, and it just
Speaker 5: feels like the pieces come in and out of the
Speaker 5: lineup and it's hard to find consistent rhythm here. So
Speaker 5: I'm not ready to press that panic button yet. On
Speaker 5: the forty nine ers, I feel like this team has
Speaker 5: proven that they find they can find ways to win
Speaker 5: when they get down to it, and I I think
Speaker 5: this division will allow them the opportunity to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, division's not going anywhere, that's the good news. It
Speaker 2: is all clumped in there together. Seattle did a great
Speaker 2: job living in big plays, just kind of put a
Speaker 2: lid on the on the forty nine ers, both run
Speaker 2: and pass. I thought that was the key. All right,
Speaker 2: Atlanta Denver. I'll start us off on this one because
Speaker 2: I wanted to watch the bo Nicks awesome game. You
Speaker 2: see the first rookie QB with eighty percent completion percentage,
Speaker 2: three hundred and four passing touchdowns in a game. So
Speaker 2: that's where I wanted to start, and I went to
Speaker 2: the entire game, watched every single snap of this one.
Speaker 2: For Denver's offense, I thought they did a good job
Speaker 2: of it was like a sandwich. Like they start. It
Speaker 2: was a run, The bread was the run, and the
Speaker 2: pass was the meat. They got into the game with
Speaker 2: some run game got them comfortable. Then they were able
Speaker 2: to throw it all over the place, and then they
Speaker 2: were able to run it towards the end. But everything
Speaker 2: was clicking. And look, I know that some folks, you know,
Speaker 2: we'll look at Sean Payton and oh, you know, he's
Speaker 2: cocky or he's their again, and he maybe rubbed some
Speaker 2: people the wrong way. The guy can the guy can
Speaker 2: scheme and call offense and there is no debating it.
Speaker 2: I mean, you talk about four strong buck hitting backside slants.
Speaker 2: He unloaded the screen game in this one. Every type
Speaker 2: of screen you can run. They ran it. They were effective,
Speaker 2: they ran they tight end leak got one wide open
Speaker 2: on that one. So they got a lot of scheme
Speaker 2: stuff that I thought bon Nicks benefited from. But then Bonnicks,
Speaker 2: you see his confidence soaring. He's ripping a seam ball
Speaker 2: between the triangle defenders, and it was just like textbook
Speaker 2: how you handle a young quarterback. You ease him into
Speaker 2: the game, then you kind of cut him loose, and
Speaker 2: then you don't ask him to do too much. We're
Speaker 2: still screening late in the game, we're running late in
Speaker 2: the game, minimal minimal risk involved with a lot of
Speaker 2: stuff that they were doing. I thought, buck to me,
Speaker 2: this was a masterclass by Sean Payton and bon Knicks.
Speaker 1: Look, man, he gets it, he understands it. He understands
Speaker 1: how to make the game very, very easy for the quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Just think about all the quarterbacks that came through New
Speaker 1: Orleans that had success, small sample sizes, but think about
Speaker 1: how James played for him, how Teddy Bridgewater play for him,
Speaker 1: what he's been able to do with quarterbacks outside of
Speaker 1: Drew Brees. He understands the position for bow Knicks. One
Speaker 1: of the things that excited me about the possibility of
Speaker 1: them getting together is bow Knicks has experienced the significant
Speaker 1: amount of snaps that he played in college, the high
Speaker 1: iq that he has, the leadership and the maturity that
Speaker 1: he displayed. You put that with Sean Payton, who wants
Speaker 1: to put a lot on the quarterback. You can just
Speaker 1: see how this is going to continue to grow. And
Speaker 1: just wait till when they get more pieces around the quarterback.
Speaker 1: You can see where the foundation is being built in Denver.
Speaker 1: And if you're a Broncos fan, you have to be
Speaker 1: excited about him.
Speaker 5: A couple of quick things there maturity, intelligence, accuracy. I
Speaker 5: think that's what you've seen from bow Nicks in a
Speaker 5: big way, especially in this game. I mean, DJ I
Speaker 5: haven't watched all those snaps, I'm sure you could see
Speaker 5: the way his head moves from right to left or
Speaker 5: left to right. And it's not just like he's trying
Speaker 5: to look somebody off. He is moving through what Sean
Speaker 5: Payton gives him to assess post snap, and that's been
Speaker 5: really impressive and again speaks to the experience and the
Speaker 5: amount of football that he has seen. The other part
Speaker 5: of it is like outside of the quarterback, you know,
Speaker 5: processing and all that kind of stuff, which is obviously
Speaker 5: huge and very important, especially early for a rookie. But
Speaker 5: I think the other part of it is you talk
Speaker 5: to folks in that building. They will talk about how
Speaker 5: he is beloved in that locker room. He has won
Speaker 5: those dudes over in a big way, how calm he
Speaker 5: is throughout game situations in timeouts like just low heartbeat player,
Speaker 5: not just in the pocket in a hostile environment, but
Speaker 5: even as you know situations are developing, even at the
Speaker 5: end of that Kansas City game, you know, before they
Speaker 5: went out and one against the Atlanta Falcons, this week.
Speaker 3: So there's so much to like.
Speaker 5: I'm just telling you, like, if if bo Nix and
Speaker 5: the Broncos keep ascending and the commanders keep stumbling, it
Speaker 5: might end up being more of a conversation about offensive
Speaker 5: a conversation.
Speaker 2: He's already he's already a conversation. You should already make
Speaker 2: that a conversation. All right, we're gonna work through three
Speaker 2: more games. But it's just a it's a speed round here.
Speaker 2: So it's one player, the one takeaway, one player, one takeaway,
Speaker 2: Buck the Indianapolis Colts knock off the Jets. I think
Speaker 2: there's an obvious one here, but I'll let you have it.
Speaker 2: One player, one takeaway.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give Anthony Richardson his props for being able
Speaker 1: to learn hard lessons over two weeks. Maturity, professionalism, all
Speaker 1: of those things that came out what they were talking about.
Speaker 4: I love the fact that he embraced it.
Speaker 1: I love the fact that he was vulnerable with his
Speaker 1: teammates and that he came back and showed out in
Speaker 1: a major way, played even beyond I would say the
Speaker 1: coach's expectations. And so if he can do that and
Speaker 1: learn the value of preparation and putting in the time
Speaker 1: and doing all those things that franchise quarterbacks are supposed
Speaker 1: to do are expected to do. Now he has an
Speaker 1: opportunity to realize some of that potential that made him
Speaker 1: the number four overall pick.
Speaker 2: All right, Rhett, you're up next here and we're going
Speaker 2: to I think this is probably another easy one for
Speaker 2: you Rams, New England Patriots. You can go win or
Speaker 2: a loser here, But what's your takeaway?
Speaker 5: One lot to love about the continued progression of Drake
Speaker 5: may too. I just think that when the Rams are
Speaker 5: healthy and they're still getting there along the offensive front
Speaker 5: and trying to figure out how to get the best
Speaker 5: five guys out there, they've been moving a lot of
Speaker 5: pieces around. But I'm telling you that triangle and then
Speaker 5: with the run game of Kien Williams, but Stafford Pooka
Speaker 5: and Cooper Cup, there's not a whole lot of trios
Speaker 5: that I take over those three right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. They feel like the old old man's
Speaker 2: team that shows up at the y MCA and somehow
Speaker 2: they just run through everybody, all these young college kids.
Speaker 2: That's what it looks like when you watch the Rams
Speaker 2: play offense. Cleveland, New Orleans.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, you get the I guess I could
Speaker 2: go fully. You know, jamis full Jamis Winston experience in
Speaker 2: this game as well as the the the perfect Taysom
Speaker 2: Hill experience in this game with what he did just
Speaker 2: making all kinds of plays. Aaron Rizzy's got him going, man.
Speaker 2: So they they're playing well, the Browns saw him in
Speaker 2: person a couple of weeks ago. It's just I don't
Speaker 2: want to say play out the string. That's probably insulting
Speaker 2: to a bunch of professionals, but they're playing out the string.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a that's a wrap one more buck,
Speaker 2: one more game, Vegas, Miami. Give me a takeaway on
Speaker 2: that one.
Speaker 1: Well, let's let's talk about Miami maybe finding themselves back
Speaker 1: into rhythm in terms of being able to get it done.
Speaker 1: And it's, you know, it's the offense is so different
Speaker 1: when to a tongue of b low is there, Like
Speaker 1: they're able to get it going, They're able to kind
Speaker 1: of play dink and dunk ball. They still do kind
Speaker 1: of like the lightning round running attack, but it's such
Speaker 1: a unique offense. So for them to get back on
Speaker 1: track thirty four points being able to kind of find
Speaker 1: their way. Not quite ready to say that they're back
Speaker 1: in the hunt of being a playoff team, but they
Speaker 1: have enough intriguing pieces offensively.
Speaker 4: That they can give you problems as we get down
Speaker 4: the stretch.
Speaker 3: Quick one, quick one, here, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you know?
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick gave all that money to Johnny Smith.
Speaker 2: Yeah he's back, baby.
Speaker 3: You know what why?
Speaker 2: He was a little premature found there he is. That's
Speaker 2: the guy. All right, there is one more game and
Speaker 2: it's time for the Monday night football preview. I can
Speaker 2: tell you this, uh story here real quick. I called
Speaker 2: the first game between the Houston Texans and it was
Speaker 2: against the Dallas Cowboys. And that was David Carr at quarterback,
Speaker 2: our colleague, I should say I called it. I spotted.
Speaker 2: I was working for ESPN right out of college.
Speaker 3: I was all right.
Speaker 2: I was up in the blue. I think bucks heard
Speaker 2: this before. I'm up in the booth. I'm spotting for
Speaker 2: Mike Patrick, Diisman and McGuire.
Speaker 3: And old Sunday night game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, old Sunday night. I'm right out of college. So
Speaker 2: I've got my binoculars on and I look, and I
Speaker 2: see David Carr's got a rubber it was like the
Speaker 2: first rubber wedding band that he had on, and it
Speaker 2: was except it was I think it might even have
Speaker 2: been just athletic tape, like they didn't even make those
Speaker 2: back then. I think it was just like athletic tape
Speaker 2: around his wedding finger. So I told I told, like
Speaker 2: Thimer one of them. I said like, oh, I think
Speaker 2: like this guy. You know, David Carr is such a
Speaker 2: good guy, Like he doesn't he wants to have his
Speaker 2: ring on. So it looks like he's either taped his
Speaker 2: ring up or he's got it and his thing. And uh,
Speaker 2: but I don't know this is true. He could have
Speaker 2: had a cut on his finger. So I just tell that.
Speaker 2: And then this is like my first game working out
Speaker 2: of college as a spotter, and they set it on
Speaker 2: the air and I thought, oh my gosh, I hope
Speaker 2: that this is true. I hope this is not. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna get favored. I don't even know. And I believe
Speaker 2: it was Stuart Scott on Sports Center ran the highlight
Speaker 2: and they close up on his hand and go, oh,
Speaker 2: he's got he loves les so loves his wife. He's
Speaker 2: got that. I'm like, oh, my guys, I know this
Speaker 2: is not I don't even know if this is true.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 2: I was a twenty twenty two year old kid scared
Speaker 2: to death that I was going to get fired because
Speaker 2: of the inaugural Texans game against the Dallas Cowboys. So
Speaker 2: that's not really the preview I think people listen to
Speaker 2: us for. But that's what I thought.
Speaker 4: So one thing I mean, that's that's a good job.
Speaker 2: That's a spicy g good guy. That is good.
Speaker 1: Good eyes that out because that's about the most excitement
Speaker 1: that we can talk about with this game, because right
Speaker 1: now there have no expectations on the other side when
Speaker 1: it comes to the Cowboys. Dak Prescott is out, the
Speaker 1: defense has been bad. You talked about playing out the string.
Speaker 1: They're playing out the string in down.
Speaker 2: Rets Ret's and he give me a reason to watch
Speaker 2: this game, give me, give me a reason to want
Speaker 2: to sit on the couch and take this one in.
Speaker 5: DJ Stroud will remind you why he was the first
Speaker 5: tape we wanted to watch every week last year.
Speaker 3: And it just hasn't last year. I know, man, I know,
Speaker 3: and I.
Speaker 5: Know that he misses having Nico Collins out there, But
Speaker 5: you know, I.
Speaker 3: Think is Nico back this week.
Speaker 4: I think feel like it might be might be back.
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, so we'll you know, we'll see if
Speaker 5: that rekindles some of that explosive downfield passing attack that
Speaker 5: we loved from the Texans a year ago and just
Speaker 5: haven't seen enough consistently this year. They've really been a
Speaker 5: team that runs through the run game with Joe Mixon
Speaker 5: and well, that's that's fine, and Dany I still I want.
Speaker 3: To see some of that that's spectacular c J. Stroudness
Speaker 3: in this game.
Speaker 2: To I Uh, I've got to go because I've got
Speaker 2: a text David Carr now that I have his phone
Speaker 2: number after all these years, and find out if this
Speaker 2: is really true. I've just never asked.
Speaker 3: I gotta still haven't asked, all right, confirmation.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna find that information out. That's my goal. All right.
Speaker 2: This has been a fun one. I do want to
Speaker 2: remind everybody we've got a bunch more shows coming this
Speaker 2: week where we'll dig into quarterback change with the New
Speaker 2: York Giants, amongst other topics. So planning to get to
Speaker 2: this week, but we appreciate you hanging with us today
Speaker 2: right here on move Stick