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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Welcome to Move the Sticks. DJ Bucky

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Speaker 2: ret with you on a recap Monday here, coming off

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Speaker 2: a short night for me, Chargers home game, night game,

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Speaker 2: a lot of traffic. Apparently we had the triple header

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Speaker 2: with be was Clippers concert Chargers night game. So Inglewood

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Speaker 2: Uh don't know who was.

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Speaker 3: In the concert.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody stayed to the end. Everybody stayed in. It

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Speaker 2: was a great atmosphere. Yeah, I bet. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: Jason's in my ear telling me it's Sabrina Carpenter was

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Speaker 2: at the was A the LA Forum. So the KIA

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Speaker 2: form is that what it is? Now? I don't know

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Speaker 2: it's ah might I think it is?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's the key.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, packed house. We're gonna get to that game. That

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Speaker 2: second on the list. Today, we're going to start with

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Speaker 2: what was, you know, literally one of the best matchups

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Speaker 2: in the regular season we've seen in the last half

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Speaker 2: dozen years. If you look at where Kansas City was

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Speaker 2: coming into this game at Buffalo, a game that felt

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Speaker 2: man Buffalo had to have this for a whole host

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Speaker 2: of reasons, but just to know that this collision is

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Speaker 2: coming again into the future. Fascinating game there, Buck, I'll

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Speaker 2: give you the first word on this one on what

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Speaker 2: your takeaway.

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Speaker 1: Was, Look big time, and I'll say we've talked about

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen playing at a high level before, but this

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Speaker 1: was big time, a big time performance for him.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I won't do like the overreaction Monday where everyone is like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, he's overtaken Pat Mahomes is the best

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Speaker 1: player in the league in those things. But what I

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Speaker 1: will say is the Pat Mahome experiment that the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills decided to use, meaning take away some of the

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Speaker 1: notable names, make it maybe a little more comedye on

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Speaker 1: the perimeter, It has allowed him to really be the

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Speaker 1: best version of himself. We're seeing Josh Allen do things

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Speaker 1: that we've seen before, but he's doing it in a

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Speaker 1: more controlled manner. The running, the passing, utilizing all of

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Speaker 1: the weapons, managing the game, all of that shows significant

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Speaker 1: growth and maturity in his game, where he certainly is

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Speaker 1: deserving of being in the conversation as MVP because he's

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, Look, I don't think it's hyperbole to

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Speaker 5: say that Josh Allen was the more dangerous player in

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Speaker 5: this game. When you look at the way that the

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Speaker 5: Chiefs were still able to get pressure on and twenty

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Speaker 5: six pressures.

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Speaker 3: On Josh Allen didn't sack him once.

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Speaker 5: It just it felt like they were the more explosive team,

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Speaker 5: certainly down the field in the past game.

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Speaker 3: I mean dominant really in that category of it.

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Speaker 5: And for a Chiefs offense that at times has been pedestrian,

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Speaker 5: you ran up against the team that had a lot

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Speaker 5: of different ways to go at you, and so much

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Speaker 5: of that has to do with the number seventeen leading

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Speaker 5: the way a quarterback. So I was really a fan

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Speaker 5: of the way that Josh Allen played this game, and

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Speaker 5: you know, knew when he needed to take off and

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Speaker 5: go get yards for his team, like you did hear

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Speaker 5: on this incredible touchdown run that was just kind of

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Speaker 5: the exclamation point on the whole night for a day

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Speaker 5: in which you look, he was better than Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 3: Not to say that he is a better player overall.

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Speaker 5: I'm glad we get to see these guys go at

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Speaker 5: it each and every year, and I'm excited to see

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I want to start on the Allen

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Speaker 2: it looks like if they don't have that miraculously Casey

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Speaker 2: comeback with. However many seconds were left on the clock.

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Speaker 2: Uh in that playoff game. How differently we view Josh

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Speaker 2: Allen And this is literally it is peer. It is

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Speaker 2: athleticism watching the tape on that They were on a

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Speaker 2: lot of empty runs with Josh Allen. Some of them

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Speaker 2: that is deadly. It's like it's like high school football

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Speaker 2: we need to play on time, play on schedule. If

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Speaker 2: you're scrambling around, then you don't you know, that's not

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Speaker 2: why the game's played. I've got some interesting stats on that.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that when we get to the Bears thing.

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Speaker 2: But I do want to get to the chief side

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Speaker 2: of things here. Patrick Mahomes last year sacked twenty seven

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Speaker 2: times sixteen games. Patrick Mahomes been sacked twenty two times

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Speaker 2: and ten games this year. Only sacked a couple times

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Speaker 2: in this ballgame. But this is an offensive line that's

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Speaker 2: Chiefs offenses, which we're averaging I want, I believe two

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Speaker 2: of it we've talked about the weaponry or this, that

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Speaker 2: and the other. This offensive line buck is nothing like

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Speaker 2: you can't secure the edges, and that's that's been a big,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a huge problem because you talk about

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Speaker 4: Put at the other tackle, like, they have not been

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Speaker 1: The interview three are solid, but the edges that's problematic

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Speaker 1: because you're right, DJ, you can't sit in the pocket

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Speaker 1: it's still the big part of Pat Mahomes that played

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Speaker 1: really well on schedule and they lose that part of

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Speaker 1: And the Chiefs are different because they don't have a

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Speaker 4: It's something that we know Andy Reid will address.

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Speaker 1: It's been exposed and he'll continue to tweak and refine

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Speaker 4: To making that three pet that some of us are

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Speaker 5: Look, it does, in a way feel like where this

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Speaker 5: against the Tampa Bay Bucks and lost the Super Bowl

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Speaker 5: because the locker Bucks absolutely got after him off the

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Speaker 5: they're kind of recycling that process again, and I think

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Speaker 3: Now here's the thing.

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Speaker 5: Kingsley Suwamatilla is not the answer this year, and they

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Speaker 5: figure out a way for him to be an answer

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Speaker 5: for them at one of the tackles moving forward. I

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Speaker 5: would say that's probably at least still a possibility. It

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Speaker 5: doesn't feel like it's certainly the way that we'll find

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Speaker 5: moving forward? I think is really where you have to

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Speaker 5: look if you're the Chiefs at this.

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Speaker 2: Point, Yeah, Well, it's not the last time we're going

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Speaker 2: to see these teams together. They're going to meet up

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Speaker 2: again in the postseason and we'll see again. Only one

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Speaker 2: loss separates them in the lost column, and now Buffalo

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Speaker 2: season unfolds for both these ball clubs going forward. All right,

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Speaker 2: let's get to the Senna night game that I was

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Speaker 2: at Chargers and the Cincinnati Bengals. I'll start on the

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Speaker 2: Charger side of things. You know, calling their games for

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Speaker 2: seven years, I've seen the Chargers lose this game a

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Speaker 2: dozen times, if not more, where things start going bad

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Speaker 2: and they can't stop the bleeding. This was different last night.

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Speaker 2: They get out to a big lead. Offense was really clicking.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I thought you had a quarterback and a

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Speaker 2: So anyways, all clicking second half, they get out of rhythm,

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Speaker 2: he misses some throws, the defense has given up points. It's,

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Speaker 2: you know, Joe Burrow's playing out of his mind as

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Speaker 2: he has all season long, and just felt it slipping away.

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Speaker 2: two throws to Lad McConkey, who's been excellent and who's

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Speaker 3: But Buck.

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Speaker 2: I was watching them, and I've said this for a

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Speaker 2: is when I watch this Chargers team, it feels like

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Speaker 2: like they are. You can see where this is headed,

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Speaker 2: and they're going to get some more skill around this group.

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Speaker 2: But man, it's exciting to see. This is kind of

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Speaker 1: So the comments that I heard after the game, I

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Speaker 1: they believe that the work and the preparation that they

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Speaker 1: they feel like something specialist brewing hearing the other comments

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Speaker 1: from some of the other players saying that in the

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Speaker 1: past we have lost this game, but we just know

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Speaker 1: that we're so connected and so together that we were

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Speaker 4: To me, they are.

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Speaker 1: All in on their leader, and that connectivity between players

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Speaker 1: and coach is essential. The fact that they believe in

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Speaker 1: Jim Harbor and he's done a really good job of

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Speaker 1: the toughness, the physicality in those things. DJ, they don't

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Speaker 1: even have the pieces of the puzzle yet, right, So

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Speaker 1: you talked about, you know the guys they brought over

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Speaker 3: That's just not sustainable. And we're going to be in.

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Speaker 5: you paid McPherson go out and make the dang kicks.

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Speaker 3: They're not finishing games right now.

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Speaker 5: But it's not like you and you and you, it's

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Speaker 3: All I got to do is worry about me. That's

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Speaker 2: So I wouldn't plan on going into this direction. This

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Speaker 2: just just make Detroit pay it, you know, head coach

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Speaker 2: and there's some intriguing names. There's nothing like Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 2: not if you give me equal talent, I'm not. I

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Speaker 2: i'm if, I'm the Bengals, and I'm never going to

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Speaker 2: if they did make a change, to me, that is

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Speaker 2: if I was Ben Johnson, I would call them before

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, I thought they extended Zach Taylor

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Speaker 4: Knowing the Bengals, and that's.

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Speaker 2: Not the way they normally do business, and that's that's

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Speaker 4: Will I will say this about what Red is talking about.

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Speaker 1: And I would say the comments that come off as selfish, no,

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Speaker 1: they are selfish from Jamar Chase. Here's what happens when

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Speaker 2: Look, look guys, I mean this is a situation for

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Speaker 2: They've had opportunities, haven't been able to get it done.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's why all this stuff is really

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Speaker 2: here and let's get to another big time game, big

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Speaker 2: time performance by the Pittsburgh Steelers. They take care of

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Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens in a field goal fest. For the Steelers,

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Speaker 2: they didn't finish drives, didn't get things done the way

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Speaker 2: they wanted to. But this is a game ret where

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Speaker 2: they controlled the clock, They had the ball for thirty

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Speaker 2: six minutes, twenty two minutes for the Baltimore Ravens, and

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Speaker 2: Baltimore penalties twelve turnovers three. There's your ball game.

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Speaker 3: There's really no other way to describe it.

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Speaker 5: This was a mistake game, full of mistakes for the

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Speaker 5: I mean miss back to back kicks, Sure not gimme's

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Speaker 5: you know that the onsought of negativity was just really

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is frustrated for the Baltimore Ravens because this

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Speaker 4: Big plays allowed. When you do that, you're gonna lose games.

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Speaker 1: Twelve pen is too many penalties, too many self inflicted mistakes,

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Speaker 1: three turnovers plus two additional miskicks which we could really

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Speaker 1: next time they see the Pittsburgh Steelers, we'll see if

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Speaker 2: And a lot of times it's games like this one.

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Speaker 2: If they see him, they see them all the time.

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Speaker 1: Well, now, yeah, because they go after him, they say

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Speaker 2: They don't, Uh, they're not scared on their heels like,

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Speaker 1: But I think the thing that stood up to me

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Speaker 1: And so the Pittsburgh still is I have a young

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Speaker 5: descriptive of the way this game ended. Up going for Baltimore.

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Speaker 5: Like every time you'd find a way to generate some positivity,

437
00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,720
Speaker 5: something would pull you back. They two steps forward, one

438
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,679
Speaker 5: step back, and it just ultimately it came back to

439
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:03,120
Speaker 5: bite him.

440
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Speaker 3: So this was Pittsburgh's first.

441
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,640
Speaker 5: Division game of the season, so we've gotten much more

442
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,399
Speaker 5: of this still to come. But man, Ravens will look

443
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,360
Speaker 5: to turn the tide and they get him in Baltimore.

444
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Speaker 2: And I don't know that it was a cruise to

445
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,639
Speaker 2: victory for the Green Bay Packers. It was definitely not

446
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,159
Speaker 2: a cruise for the Chicago Bears to defeat. But this

447
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 2: was a game I teased this earlier, and I want

448
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,880
Speaker 2: to lead with this because I want to start first

449
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,199
Speaker 2: of all, on the Caleb Williams side of things. In

450
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:41,359
Speaker 2: this game they lose, Bears lose twenty nineteen. I start first.

451
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 2: They if they make a kick in this game and

452
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 2: they don't just completely flub on the Hail Mary against Washington,

453
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 2: these are two signature comeback wins for Caleb Williams. Late

454
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Speaker 2: drives to lead the Bears to victory. As a Bears

455
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 2: team that's six and four. If that's the case, Man,

456
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,919
Speaker 2: the vibe is so different. It just shows you how

457
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 2: narrow the line is here between being a hero and

458
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Speaker 2: a goat. But Buck, I want to get to you

459
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Speaker 2: on this point because this is a saucing nug for you.

460
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 2: I was looking this up because I was thinking about

461
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Speaker 2: just playing on time and the importance of playing on

462
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Speaker 2: time and playing within structure, and how much we talk

463
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Speaker 2: about that and how that had been. You know, it's

464
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Speaker 2: a lot of discussion about Caleb. It needs to get

465
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Speaker 2: more comfortable in that regard. So I said, okay, well,

466
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Speaker 2: if we're going to kind of label guys who scramble

467
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Speaker 2: around as maybe that's not the way you win games

468
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Speaker 2: in this league, let me give you the top scramblers

469
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Speaker 2: in the NFL who scrambled the most. Number one is

470
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Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels, followed by Brock Perdy, Bo Nicks, Lamar Jackson,

471
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Speaker 2: Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, Patrick Mahomes. Those are the top

472
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Speaker 2: scramblers in the NFL. So, and all those guys, even

473
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Speaker 2: with Bonix being a young player, they're all those quarterbacks

474
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Speaker 2: are playing at a very high level. And if you

475
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Speaker 2: were to go longer on that list, I could make

476
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Speaker 2: a case that ten of the eleven are playing at

477
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Speaker 2: a high level. Guys that are scrambling around. So I

478
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Speaker 2: don't know that we need to remove scrambling from Caleb.

479
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 2: I think what we saw in this game, which was encouraging,

480
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 2: which was whatever you're going to do, do it, you know,

481
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 2: don't get The worst thing you can do is just

482
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Speaker 2: get stuck back there. So if you want to get

483
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Speaker 2: the ball out your hands quick, get it out of

484
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 2: your hands quick. If you don't like it, then go

485
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Speaker 2: use your legs and make something happen. But be more decisive.

486
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Speaker 2: And I thought that was a positive take away from

487
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Speaker 2: me with this Bears game. I don't think you need to.

488
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Speaker 2: I think there was some part of him maybe and

489
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Speaker 2: I don't know if they're telling this or maybe just subconsciously,

490
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Speaker 2: it's like I've got to put my feet and cement

491
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Speaker 2: back here to prove that I'm something, you know, And

492
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Speaker 2: I'm like, that's not the way the NFL plays anymore. Man,

493
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 2: you don't have to do that now.

494
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Speaker 1: What's interesting is his comments after the game when you

495
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Speaker 1: talked about Thomas Brown in the Biggest Change, and he

496
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Speaker 1: just talked about Thomas Brown's decisiveness, decisiveness with his play

497
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Speaker 1: calls in and out the huddle, the.

498
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Speaker 4: Way that he seeks the calls he just said.

499
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Speaker 1: It was more up tempo, on pace in terms of

500
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Speaker 1: just the operation in and out the huddle. Like Thomas

501
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 1: knew exactly what he wanted to get to and it

502
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Speaker 1: allowed him to be more decisive, which is my why

503
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Speaker 1: you may have see him, why we may have witnessed

504
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Speaker 1: a more decisive player inside and outside the pocket. When

505
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Speaker 1: you take a player like Kayleb Williams, you have to

506
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 1: take him knowing the player that you got at USC

507
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: is the player that is going to show up in Chicago,

508
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Speaker 1: and your job is to build around what he showed

509
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: at SC and if he plays like he played yesterday.

510
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Speaker 4: Then you continue to build it out.

511
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Speaker 1: But it's about teaching him how to be decisive, making

512
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Speaker 1: decisions fast and going with it.

513
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Speaker 4: Don't make him something that he's not.

514
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Speaker 3: Yeah looking, you know.

515
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Speaker 5: On the Packers side of things, you know, they come

516
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Speaker 5: up with a win here, remain within striking distance of

517
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Speaker 5: the Detroit Lions. But the more I kind of watched

518
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 5: you know, Green Bay and then Detroit, which we'll get

519
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 5: to here in just a couple of minutes, it does

520
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 5: feel like the gap is fairly significant there, especially you know,

521
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Speaker 5: with the fact that Jordan Love can't quite get rid

522
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Speaker 5: of these turnovers. He's now had an interception in every

523
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 5: game this season, and it just happened to come down

524
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Speaker 5: in the red area. Intercepted near the goal line, they're

525
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 5: thwarting a scoring opportunity. And then actually the Packers turned

526
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 5: it over on downs down in the red area as well.

527
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 5: So for them to be a viable post season contender

528
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Speaker 5: that you can trust, it does feel like they've got

529
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Speaker 5: to find a way here to get this offense to

530
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Speaker 5: finish with points on the board and not with those

531
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Speaker 5: some of those costly turnovers in there where you are

532
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Speaker 5: taking away the opportunity to score some points.

533
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Speaker 3: So otherwise like it was a fairly efficient day. They

534
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Speaker 3: didn't have the ball very much.

535
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Speaker 5: Only twenty three minutes of top in this one for

536
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Speaker 5: green Bay and just seventeen pass attempts.

537
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 3: For Jordan Love.

538
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Speaker 5: So they figure out a way to minimize those turnovers,

539
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 5: and I think you'll have a much better opportunity for

540
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 5: Green Bay to try to make a run at this thing.

541
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I looked that they gave up nineteen points. I

542
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 2: don't want to ding their defense, but Chicago was nine

543
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 2: to sixteen on third down and this has been an

544
00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 2: offense that is obviously massively struggling. So that was a

545
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 2: little bit of a concern on the on the Green

546
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 2: Bay side of things that weren't able to get off

547
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 2: the field and weren't able to get off the field

548
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 2: late either bailed out by you know, the block field

549
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 2: goal attempt. But that that you know, and we'll get it.

550
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 2: This will get us into this next game here before

551
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 2: we get into Jacksonville Detroit. But just go around the

552
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,479
Speaker 2: horn real quick, because I'll get both your takes on it.

553
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 2: To me, it feels like NFC Detroit's in a tier

554
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 2: all by themselves nobody. I think they're playing much better

555
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 2: in a belt. I think Philadelphia is behind them. I

556
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 2: think I don't think there's anybody close to Philadelphia. Is

557
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 2: the point I'm gonna make, Like, I feel like it's

558
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 2: those two teams, however much distance we want to disagree on,

559
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 2: like how much difference there is between Detroit and Philly.

560
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: That might be closer, like you said, but but I

561
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: think after those two teams, it feels like there's I

562
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 2: don't think Green Bay. I think they're significantly Minnesota.

563
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 4: You don't feel like Minnesota.

564
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Speaker 2: I don't trust Minnesota. We'll get to Minnesota. There's something

565
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 2: there that I don't trust, and it really is more

566
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 2: about their defense. When their defense plays the better quarterbacks,

567
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 2: I think that that sell out, you know, way of

568
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 2: playing defense against top tier quarterbacks is going to be

569
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: a dangerous way to live. But that's my opinion there.

570
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 2: But do you think those two are cut above everybody else?

571
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Speaker 3: Buck?

572
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, the only thing I would say, I think those

573
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: who are definitely there. I put Minnesota right there with

574
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Speaker 1: Philadelphia because I would say that their defense being able

575
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: to create turnovers in those things, and it is a

576
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: Gopher broke style of play I'm more of. I think

577
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: their postseason hopes hange on Sam Donald's play and watching

578
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: him a week ago and then talking to some of

579
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: the people around the building. They just said like, hey,

580
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Speaker 1: if he plays within himself, we can win and knock

581
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: off any team. He just has to make sure that

582
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Speaker 1: he stays within the boundaries his limitations. If he does that,

583
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: they can win. So I'm just more worried about Sam

584
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: Donald in the postseason.

585
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 4: Can he just continue to be the player that he was?

586
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: The player there was Yesterday's certainly good enough to help

587
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: them win against any team.

588
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 4: That's the only thing.

589
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: But I think Minnesota, Philly and Detroit, but Detroit way

590
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: up there over the other two.

591
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Speaker 2: RTT you want in on that just in terms of know,

592
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 2: what do you think the pecking order is there? Real

593
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 2: quick and then we'll keep it moving.

594
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you guys are right on the Other

595
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 5: thing that I would say, and it's a huge if,

596
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 5: and it's a major caveat, is that there's gonna be

597
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 5: a team out west in whether it's the Cardinals, whether

598
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 5: it's the Rams, it is all of the are all

599
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 5: there healthy, and then the Niners, Like I just don't

600
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 5: know if I'm ready to count them out either. I

601
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 5: feel like there's gonna be a team in the West.

602
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 5: And man, when Matthew Stafford is on like he was

603
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 5: with Kup and Nakua yesterday, that's that's some good offense

604
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 5: out there in the NFC.

605
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 3: I put that right up there with everybody else.

606
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, And not just to put a bow on it.

607
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 2: With Minnesota Golf and Stafford the two quarterbacks who beat them,

608
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 2: And that's what I worry about, is those the type

609
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: of quarterbacks you're going to run into in the postseason

610
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: and you want to sell out and play that aggressive,

611
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 2: They'll make you pay with really good quarterbacks. Jacksonville Detroit

612
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: buck full disclosure when I you know, when I look

613
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 2: at all the games and I'm trying to figure out

614
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 2: what I'm gonna watch, and I prioritize I did not

615
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 2: watch lick a film of this game, because I was

616
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 2: just going to let you take the floor and tell

617
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 2: me what you saw in person. I wasn't gonna subject

618
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 2: myself to that.

619
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Speaker 1: Okay, So what I saw was every year in the

620
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Speaker 1: college football season, you put a game on the schedule

621
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Speaker 1: where you're just trying to work through the kings. You

622
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: know you're gonna beat the team, but you're trying to

623
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: work everything out. I feel like Detroit put the Jacks

624
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: on the schedule to do just that. The way that

625
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: they attack the Jack wall from beginning to end.

626
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 4: From beginning to in.

627
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is an old school a let's bring them in,

628
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna pay.

629
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 4: Them, fly the way, give them a buffet, pre and post, or.

630
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 1: We're gonna beat them down. That's how they did it.

631
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: But in reality, here's what I'll say about the Detroit Lions.

632
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: I believe the Detroit Lions are a perfectly constructed team.

633
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: To be a title contender. On offense, they can play

634
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: a variety of ways that gives.

635
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 4: Them multiple paths to be able to win.

636
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: They can run it, they can throw it, they can

637
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: play with power, they can play with finesse. Defensively, they've

638
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: really come on and the loss of eight and Hutchinson

639
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,479
Speaker 1: is significant, but they found a way to do. What

640
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: we talked about last week is rush the quarterback by committee,

641
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: but in the back end they are terrific.

642
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 4: Brian Branch is everything that we thought he did.

643
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: I don't know why he didn't go in the first round,

644
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: but the guy plays like a first rounder all day,

645
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: every day. And then Kirby Joseph who plays alongside of them,

646
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: They may be the best safety tenem in the business

647
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: because they do a great job of working off of

648
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: one another.

649
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 5: So the way that I look at this now is yeah,

650
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 5: I mean you painted the picture.

651
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 3: That's that's what happened in the game.

652
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 5: The Lions far superior on paper and in this game

653
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 5: right now, what do you do? What are we doing

654
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 5: it for the Jaguars here? So how do we figure

655
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Speaker 5: this thing out?

656
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 3: Right? What do you build around?

657
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 5: If you look at the pieces that you just that

658
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 5: are must haves moving forward next year. Trevor Lawrence certainly

659
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 5: tied to him after the big contract. Brian Thomas has

660
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 5: proved to be a major player this past year. Is

661
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 5: the first round draft pick. I think outside of that,

662
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 5: I mean, you're hoping Anton Harrison can be a guy

663
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 5: at tackle after being a first round pick in twenty three.

664
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Speaker 5: But like and then on defense is Trayvon Walker and

665
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 5: Josh Heines Allen mm hm am I missing anybody that

666
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 5: that we must have?

667
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 4: Right?

668
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: Here's my here's my question. Here's my question. So if

669
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Speaker 2: you're the Jags and the highest you have, the two

670
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: highest rated players on your board are ones a wide

671
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: receiver and one's a corner? Who are you taking? Trick questions?

672
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: Just one player? You're taking Travis Hunter? And now we

673
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 2: have Travis with BTJ out there as well as we're

674
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Speaker 2: getting him some work on the defensive side of the ball.

675
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Speaker 2: What's that, Coach Belichick? What was that play called? Okay,

676
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Speaker 2: I got it all of a sudden, Now, Jags, this

677
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: sounds a little different and looks a little all sudden.

678
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Speaker 2: Trevors there, that would be that.

679
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you, But here's what I'll say. I'll

680
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Speaker 1: say this like with a little envy sitting on one

681
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: sideline looking over the other. The complete buy in that

682
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: the Alliance have had, from top to bottom, front office,

683
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: coaching staff, the players that they have. There's a clear

684
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: vision of how they want to play. There's a clear

685
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: vision of the type of players that they want and

686
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: their style. You feel, DJ, it's a rare opportunity where

687
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: you get a chance to see the backups go in.

688
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: I guess so when the backups went in, the energy

689
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: and the attitude did not change. They were out to

690
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: literally bust the clock. And I mean, I'm just mo.

691
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: Gay comes in in the fourth corner, He's running. I'm like,

692
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: who is this? And oh, by the way, as fast

693
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: as you think Jamiir Gibbs is, he is that much.

694
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: He might be the quickest running back I've ever seen

695
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: in terms of on that turf.

696
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Speaker 4: He is unbelievable.

697
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: Like that combination they have in the backfield with him

698
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: and David Montgomery is tough.

699
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 4: They are a really good team and they are locked in.

700
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: All right, guys, let's get through a rip of games here.

701
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 2: We can get through a bunch of more games here

702
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: with the time we've got left Minnesota Tennessee RTT. What

703
00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: was what was your takeaway here?

704
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 5: Vikings did enough, you know, Vikings did enough and found

705
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 5: a way to minimize mistakes, you know, and got Jordan

706
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 5: Addison going a little bit after he had a quiet

707
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 5: spell for a couple of weeks, had a couple of

708
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 5: big catches in this game. And look, I think the

709
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Speaker 5: one other thing that I come away with here is

710
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 5: Tennessee plays hard man, especially on defense. That is a

711
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 5: good looking group. Jeffrey Simmons again is a game wrecker.

712
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,959
Speaker 5: But the Vikings found a way. And here's the thing, like,

713
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Speaker 5: if you're the Tennessee Titans and you can't run the

714
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 5: ball all and you've got a quarterback like Will Levis

715
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 5: like we kind of been talking about, does not fit

716
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Speaker 5: the bill yet of those of those elite passers that

717
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 5: can find a way to make you pay when you're

718
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 5: bringing that aggressive pressure that the Vikings do. So no

719
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 5: run game, not yet a quarterback who can deal with

720
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Speaker 5: that kind of pressure.

721
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Speaker 3: You're in a lot of trouble. And that's what it

722
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 3: felt like to me.

723
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of trouble, a lot of problems.

724
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Speaker 1: Sam Donald bouncing back after watching him basically keep the

725
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: Jaguars in it the week before he came back, played.

726
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 4: More discipline ball.

727
00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: That's the Sam Donald that needs to show up for

728
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings. If they do that, they're good enough

729
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: to win and make a deep postseason run.

730
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

731
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Speaker 2: I mean one of the big concerns I had was

732
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: with Darrisaw going down and missing Darrisaw button. You make

733
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 2: a trade Cam Robinson, right, Cam Robinson's playing one.

734
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, Cam Robinson comes over.

735
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, So that was and he's hanging on in there,

736
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 2: and he's hanging on in there, so that was a

737
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: good move. All right, Let's get to Seattle, San Francisco. Buck.

738
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: This is a big win in a very clustered and

739
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,239
Speaker 2: crowded NFC West. But that's a g. I shouldn't say good.

740
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: That's a great win for the Seattle Seahawks to go

741
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: on the road and knock off the Niners.

742
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, great win for the series. But I'm gonna stay

743
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: on the Niner side. It may be time to hit

744
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: the panic button. This is a team where we knew

745
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: that the Super Bowl hangover would probably be kind of

746
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: in play. And look, they're five and five and a

747
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: team that has been able to really kind of do

748
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: what they want to do against most opponents. Offensively, they're

749
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: not the same. They can't impose their wheel and the defense,

750
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: which has always been like part of the formula, like

751
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: run the ball, play great defense in those things, they're

752
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: not getting the same kind of contributions from the defense

753
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: that they've gotten in the past. To me, if the

754
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: Noters are going to get back to being the team

755
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: that we talk about being in the conversation to win

756
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: the NFC, they got to get back to being who

757
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: they are from an identity standpoint, physical run game, selective

758
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: play make and on play action and in defense playing

759
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: LIFs out. They're not doing They're not checking the boxes

760
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: in any of those areas right now.

761
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, the one thing I'll say, DJ and

762
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 5: I know you know you and I kind of talked

763
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 5: about this and it just has not felt like the

764
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 5: same forty nine ers run game for the last what

765
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 5: six eight weeks of this season. And obviously this is

766
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 5: just Christian McCaffrey's second game back, and you've get to

767
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 5: play a game and won't play a game where you

768
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 5: have CMC burning then I UK, Indebo Samuel all together

769
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 5: all at once. Same with George Kittle, and it just

770
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 5: feels like the pieces come in and out of the

771
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 5: lineup and it's hard to find consistent rhythm here. So

772
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 5: I'm not ready to press that panic button yet. On

773
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 5: the forty nine ers, I feel like this team has

774
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 5: proven that they find they can find ways to win

775
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 5: when they get down to it, and I I think

776
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 5: this division will allow them the opportunity to do that.

777
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, division's not going anywhere, that's the good news. It

778
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: is all clumped in there together. Seattle did a great

779
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 2: job living in big plays, just kind of put a

780
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: lid on the on the forty nine ers, both run

781
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 2: and pass. I thought that was the key. All right,

782
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 2: Atlanta Denver. I'll start us off on this one because

783
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 2: I wanted to watch the bo Nicks awesome game. You

784
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 2: see the first rookie QB with eighty percent completion percentage,

785
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 2: three hundred and four passing touchdowns in a game. So

786
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 2: that's where I wanted to start, and I went to

787
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 2: the entire game, watched every single snap of this one.

788
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: For Denver's offense, I thought they did a good job

789
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 2: of it was like a sandwich. Like they start. It

790
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 2: was a run, The bread was the run, and the

791
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: pass was the meat. They got into the game with

792
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: some run game got them comfortable. Then they were able

793
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 2: to throw it all over the place, and then they

794
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 2: were able to run it towards the end. But everything

795
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: was clicking. And look, I know that some folks, you know,

796
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: we'll look at Sean Payton and oh, you know, he's

797
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 2: cocky or he's their again, and he maybe rubbed some

798
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: people the wrong way. The guy can the guy can

799
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 2: scheme and call offense and there is no debating it.

800
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 2: I mean, you talk about four strong buck hitting backside slants.

801
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: He unloaded the screen game in this one. Every type

802
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: of screen you can run. They ran it. They were effective,

803
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 2: they ran they tight end leak got one wide open

804
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: on that one. So they got a lot of scheme

805
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 2: stuff that I thought bon Nicks benefited from. But then Bonnicks,

806
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: you see his confidence soaring. He's ripping a seam ball

807
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: between the triangle defenders, and it was just like textbook

808
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 2: how you handle a young quarterback. You ease him into

809
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: the game, then you kind of cut him loose, and

810
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 2: then you don't ask him to do too much. We're

811
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: still screening late in the game, we're running late in

812
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: the game, minimal minimal risk involved with a lot of

813
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 2: stuff that they were doing. I thought, buck to me,

814
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 2: this was a masterclass by Sean Payton and bon Knicks.

815
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: Look, man, he gets it, he understands it. He understands

816
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: how to make the game very, very easy for the quarterbacks.

817
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: Just think about all the quarterbacks that came through New

818
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: Orleans that had success, small sample sizes, but think about

819
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: how James played for him, how Teddy Bridgewater play for him,

820
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: what he's been able to do with quarterbacks outside of

821
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: Drew Brees. He understands the position for bow Knicks. One

822
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: of the things that excited me about the possibility of

823
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: them getting together is bow Knicks has experienced the significant

824
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: amount of snaps that he played in college, the high

825
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: iq that he has, the leadership and the maturity that

826
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 1: he displayed. You put that with Sean Payton, who wants

827
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: to put a lot on the quarterback. You can just

828
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: see how this is going to continue to grow. And

829
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: just wait till when they get more pieces around the quarterback.

830
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: You can see where the foundation is being built in Denver.

831
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: And if you're a Broncos fan, you have to be

832
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: excited about him.

833
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 5: A couple of quick things there maturity, intelligence, accuracy. I

834
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 5: think that's what you've seen from bow Nicks in a

835
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 5: big way, especially in this game. I mean, DJ I

836
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 5: haven't watched all those snaps, I'm sure you could see

837
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 5: the way his head moves from right to left or

838
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 5: left to right. And it's not just like he's trying

839
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 5: to look somebody off. He is moving through what Sean

840
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 5: Payton gives him to assess post snap, and that's been

841
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 5: really impressive and again speaks to the experience and the

842
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 5: amount of football that he has seen. The other part

843
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 5: of it is like outside of the quarterback, you know,

844
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 5: processing and all that kind of stuff, which is obviously

845
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 5: huge and very important, especially early for a rookie. But

846
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 5: I think the other part of it is you talk

847
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 5: to folks in that building. They will talk about how

848
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 5: he is beloved in that locker room. He has won

849
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 5: those dudes over in a big way, how calm he

850
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 5: is throughout game situations in timeouts like just low heartbeat player,

851
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 5: not just in the pocket in a hostile environment, but

852
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 5: even as you know situations are developing, even at the

853
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 5: end of that Kansas City game, you know, before they

854
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 5: went out and one against the Atlanta Falcons, this week.

855
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 3: So there's so much to like.

856
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 5: I'm just telling you, like, if if bo Nix and

857
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 5: the Broncos keep ascending and the commanders keep stumbling, it

858
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 5: might end up being more of a conversation about offensive

859
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 5: a conversation.

860
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 2: He's already he's already a conversation. You should already make

861
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 2: that a conversation. All right, we're gonna work through three

862
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: more games. But it's just a it's a speed round here.

863
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 2: So it's one player, the one takeaway, one player, one takeaway,

864
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: Buck the Indianapolis Colts knock off the Jets. I think

865
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 2: there's an obvious one here, but I'll let you have it.

866
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 2: One player, one takeaway.

867
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give Anthony Richardson his props for being able

868
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: to learn hard lessons over two weeks. Maturity, professionalism, all

869
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: of those things that came out what they were talking about.

870
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 4: I love the fact that he embraced it.

871
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: I love the fact that he was vulnerable with his

872
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: teammates and that he came back and showed out in

873
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: a major way, played even beyond I would say the

874
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: coach's expectations. And so if he can do that and

875
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: learn the value of preparation and putting in the time

876
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: and doing all those things that franchise quarterbacks are supposed

877
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 1: to do are expected to do. Now he has an

878
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: opportunity to realize some of that potential that made him

879
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: the number four overall pick.

880
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: All right, Rhett, you're up next here and we're going

881
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: to I think this is probably another easy one for

882
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 2: you Rams, New England Patriots. You can go win or

883
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 2: a loser here, But what's your takeaway?

884
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 5: One lot to love about the continued progression of Drake

885
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 5: may too. I just think that when the Rams are

886
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 5: healthy and they're still getting there along the offensive front

887
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 5: and trying to figure out how to get the best

888
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 5: five guys out there, they've been moving a lot of

889
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 5: pieces around. But I'm telling you that triangle and then

890
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 5: with the run game of Kien Williams, but Stafford Pooka

891
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 5: and Cooper Cup, there's not a whole lot of trios

892
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 5: that I take over those three right there.

893
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. They feel like the old old man's

894
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 2: team that shows up at the y MCA and somehow

895
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 2: they just run through everybody, all these young college kids.

896
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: That's what it looks like when you watch the Rams

897
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 2: play offense. Cleveland, New Orleans.

898
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 4: Man.

899
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 2: I mean, look, you get the I guess I could

900
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 2: go fully. You know, jamis full Jamis Winston experience in

901
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 2: this game as well as the the the perfect Taysom

902
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 2: Hill experience in this game with what he did just

903
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: making all kinds of plays. Aaron Rizzy's got him going, man.

904
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 2: So they they're playing well, the Browns saw him in

905
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 2: person a couple of weeks ago. It's just I don't

906
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 2: want to say play out the string. That's probably insulting

907
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 2: to a bunch of professionals, but they're playing out the string.

908
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a that's a wrap one more buck,

909
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 2: one more game, Vegas, Miami. Give me a takeaway on

910
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 2: that one.

911
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 1: Well, let's let's talk about Miami maybe finding themselves back

912
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: into rhythm in terms of being able to get it done.

913
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: And it's, you know, it's the offense is so different

914
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: when to a tongue of b low is there, Like

915
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: they're able to get it going, They're able to kind

916
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: of play dink and dunk ball. They still do kind

917
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: of like the lightning round running attack, but it's such

918
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: a unique offense. So for them to get back on

919
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: track thirty four points being able to kind of find

920
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: their way. Not quite ready to say that they're back

921
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 1: in the hunt of being a playoff team, but they

922
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: have enough intriguing pieces offensively.

923
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 4: That they can give you problems as we get down

924
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 4: the stretch.

925
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 3: Quick one, quick one, here, go ahead.

926
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you know?

927
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick gave all that money to Johnny Smith.

928
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:57,439
Speaker 2: Yeah he's back, baby.

929
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 3: You know what why?

930
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 2: He was a little premature found there he is. That's

931
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: the guy. All right, there is one more game and

932
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 2: it's time for the Monday night football preview. I can

933
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: tell you this, uh story here real quick. I called

934
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 2: the first game between the Houston Texans and it was

935
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Speaker 2: against the Dallas Cowboys. And that was David Carr at quarterback,

936
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 2: our colleague, I should say I called it. I spotted.

937
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 2: I was working for ESPN right out of college.

938
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 3: I was all right.

939
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: I was up in the blue. I think bucks heard

940
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: this before. I'm up in the booth. I'm spotting for

941
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 2: Mike Patrick, Diisman and McGuire.

942
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 3: And old Sunday night game.

943
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, old Sunday night. I'm right out of college. So

944
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 2: I've got my binoculars on and I look, and I

945
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: see David Carr's got a rubber it was like the

946
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: first rubber wedding band that he had on, and it

947
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 2: was except it was I think it might even have

948
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 2: been just athletic tape, like they didn't even make those

949
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: back then. I think it was just like athletic tape

950
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: around his wedding finger. So I told I told, like

951
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: Thimer one of them. I said like, oh, I think

952
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 2: like this guy. You know, David Carr is such a

953
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: good guy, Like he doesn't he wants to have his

954
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 2: ring on. So it looks like he's either taped his

955
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: ring up or he's got it and his thing. And uh,

956
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 2: but I don't know this is true. He could have

957
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: had a cut on his finger. So I just tell that.

958
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: And then this is like my first game working out

959
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 2: of college as a spotter, and they set it on

960
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: the air and I thought, oh my gosh, I hope

961
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 2: that this is true. I hope this is not. I'm

962
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: gonna get favored. I don't even know. And I believe

963
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 2: it was Stuart Scott on Sports Center ran the highlight

964
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 2: and they close up on his hand and go, oh,

965
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: he's got he loves les so loves his wife. He's

966
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: got that. I'm like, oh, my guys, I know this

967
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: is not I don't even know if this is true.

968
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 3: I was.

969
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 2: I was a twenty twenty two year old kid scared

970
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 2: to death that I was going to get fired because

971
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 2: of the inaugural Texans game against the Dallas Cowboys. So

972
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: that's not really the preview I think people listen to

973
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: us for. But that's what I thought.

974
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Speaker 4: So one thing I mean, that's that's a good job.

975
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 2: That's a spicy g good guy. That is good.

976
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: Good eyes that out because that's about the most excitement

977
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: that we can talk about with this game, because right

978
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: now there have no expectations on the other side when

979
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: it comes to the Cowboys. Dak Prescott is out, the

980
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: defense has been bad. You talked about playing out the string.

981
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: They're playing out the string in down.

982
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 2: Rets Ret's and he give me a reason to watch

983
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 2: this game, give me, give me a reason to want

984
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: to sit on the couch and take this one in.

985
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Speaker 5: DJ Stroud will remind you why he was the first

986
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 5: tape we wanted to watch every week last year.

987
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 3: And it just hasn't last year. I know, man, I know,

988
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 3: and I.

989
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 5: Know that he misses having Nico Collins out there, But

990
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 5: you know, I.

991
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 3: Think is Nico back this week.

992
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 4: I think feel like it might be might be back.

993
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, so we'll you know, we'll see if

994
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 5: that rekindles some of that explosive downfield passing attack that

995
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 5: we loved from the Texans a year ago and just

996
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 5: haven't seen enough consistently this year. They've really been a

997
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 5: team that runs through the run game with Joe Mixon

998
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 5: and well, that's that's fine, and Dany I still I want.

999
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 3: To see some of that that's spectacular c J. Stroudness

1000
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 3: in this game.

1001
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 2: To I Uh, I've got to go because I've got

1002
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: a text David Carr now that I have his phone

1003
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: number after all these years, and find out if this

1004
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 2: is really true. I've just never asked.

1005
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 3: I gotta still haven't asked, all right, confirmation.

1006
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna find that information out. That's my goal. All right.

1007
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 2: This has been a fun one. I do want to

1008
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 2: remind everybody we've got a bunch more shows coming this

1009
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: week where we'll dig into quarterback change with the New

1010
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 2: York Giants, amongst other topics. So planning to get to

1011
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: this week, but we appreciate you hanging with us today

1012
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: right here on move Stick