1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up. 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: Frock you by the Fields Total Group, Jaguars Senior writer 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 2: John Osher, NFL network analyst and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks, 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: and Senior reporter J. P. Shadders bring you the latest 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: on your Jacksonville Jaguars. 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: Huddle Up starts right now and welcome in. 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 3: It is Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks Wednesday, November sixth, 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 3: and we've got a busy show ahead as the Jaguars 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 3: prepared to face the Minnesota Vikings in week ten, the 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 3: trade deadline in the rear view, the quarterback is on 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 3: the injury report. 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: This week. We'll get to that. 13 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 3: A final look at the Jaguars Eagles game because we must, 14 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 3: and a first look, of course at the Vikings Jaguars 15 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 3: matchup as the Jaguars get back into the NFC North, 16 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 3: the toughest division in the NFL. Huddle Up with Bucky 17 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 3: Brooks is brought to you by Field's Auto Group, Jacksonville. 18 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 3: See Fields First, Jacksonville's premier luxury auto group. Go to 19 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 3: Field's Auto dot Com. JP Shadwick with John Osier. We're 20 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 3: at the Honday studios of the Miller Electric Center. Bucky 21 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 3: Brooks is in Los Angeles, La Bucky, We love La Bucky. 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Bucky. How are you. I'm good. 23 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 4: What's going on, guys? 24 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: Well A lot? 25 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, obviously the trade deadline came and went. 26 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 3: Jaguars had no extra movement from after Cam Robinson's deal 27 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 3: and Roy robertson Harris. Those are the two in season 28 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: trades with the jagsus year. And then today when the 29 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 3: quarterbacks dinged up and is limited at practice, that's always news, Bucky. 30 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 3: So non throwing shoulder, we're told her upper body, I 31 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 3: guess is what came out of the game last week. 32 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 33 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 5: No, here's the thing, And I look, I thought there 34 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 5: was something to that when you're when you're sitting at 35 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 5: halftime and Trevor has to go get an X ray 36 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 5: and you don't know if he's going to start, if 37 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 5: mac Jones's gonna start. 38 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 4: He certainly had getting beat up a little bit in 39 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 4: that game. 40 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 5: And what you hope is at some point he's able 41 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 5: to come back and return uh to practice. But one 42 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 5: of the reasons why you signed mac Jones is so 43 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 5: we could avoid what happened last year where Trevor went 44 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 5: through a series of weeks where he couldn't practice, but 45 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 5: he played and it impacted his performance. If he's hurt 46 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 5: and hurt enough where you don't feel good about him playing, 47 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 5: you have a former first round in Mac Jones, You 48 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 5: roll with Mac Jones, and you kind of figure out 49 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 5: a way to win with Mac Jones as your quarterback. 50 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, this is the scenario. So it's uh, And. 51 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 3: They brought on CJ. Bethterard from the practice squad of 52 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: the Dolphins. That kind of was before all the talking today. 53 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 6: Well, and I don't think you bring in CJ unless 54 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 6: there's a real chance that Trevor can't play. So, you know, 55 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 6: I think the all we're gonna know this week is 56 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 6: that Trevor is tough. He's played through this kind of 57 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 6: thing or I shouldn't say the kind of things. I 58 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 6: don't know how the seriousness is, but he's played through 59 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 6: stuff before. He'll play if he can be out there. 60 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 6: But yeah, without question, this is why now you feel 61 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 6: less inclined to pressure or to say, hey, Trevor, we 62 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 6: need you to play. You're supposed to be able to 63 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 6: win with your backup quarterbacks a couple. 64 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: And this would have been the scenario last season, had 65 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: you know, maybe Mac or somebody at that level been 66 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 3: on the roster. 67 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 6: No, what you never know is, look, the starting quarterback, 68 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 6: if he wants to play and feels like he's ready, 69 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 6: there's a little bit of benefit of the doubt that 70 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 6: guy has to get. Yeah, But then Bucky, that's also 71 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 6: I guess that's the art of being a head coach, right, 72 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 6: of knowing how much a leverage isn't the right word, 73 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 6: how much leeway the quarterback should get versus Hey, I 74 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 6: get it, kid, but but we got to go a 75 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 6: different direction because you know, you can't protect yourself or 76 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 6: you know, whatever factor there is. There's no blueprint for this, 77 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 6: I guess to what I'm saying, I'm trying to say. 78 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 5: No, there's not a blueprint for it, but it is 79 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 5: something that you want to maybe do a better job 80 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 5: than you did last year because Trevor's play through injury 81 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 5: was detrimental to his performance last season, and a lot 82 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 5: of the stuff that happened at the end of last 83 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 5: season might have affected the way that he played this season. 84 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 5: Just from a confidence standpoint, you want to protect the 85 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 5: player from the player, and if you're Doug Peterson, you 86 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 5: understand the severity of the injury you had a backup 87 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 5: policy and Mac Jones. 88 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 4: You got him for a reason. 89 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 5: You got to trust the play and the plan is 90 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 5: get mac Jones in case I'm having to Trevor handleball 91 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 5: to Mac Jones if Trevor camp play. 92 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, JP. People have been trying to protect me from 93 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 6: me all my life, so I get it. 94 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: Hey you're stubborn. 95 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 4: Well, yea, it hasn't worked, certainly, it's not. 96 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 3: We got plenty ahead on the Vikings Jaguars matchup, presented 97 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 3: by CSX this coming Sunday in week ten CSX how 98 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 3: Tomorrow Moves. However, let's take a final look back at 99 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 3: the Eagles Jaguars matchup a game. Stop me if you've 100 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 3: heard this before. The Jaguars were in an early deficit 101 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 3: in the game. This time it was twenty two nothing, 102 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: and somehow found a way to stay in the game. 103 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 3: They finally got a drive on offense after thirty one 104 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 3: yards and one first down in the first half. They 105 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: got something in the third quarter, going got a touchdown 106 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 3: the improbable takeaway and fumble return touchdown from Trayvon Walker 107 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 3: on just a razor thin margin for air or play 108 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 3: that was so close to being down, but it wasn't. 109 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: It was a fumble. 110 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 3: And they had to talk to the poor reporter after 111 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 3: the game with a replay official. All that happened to 112 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 3: get the Jags back within one score and then of 113 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 3: course the third takeaway of the game on the final 114 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 3: drive on a first down play, I throw the left 115 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 3: side of the end zone ended it. So unfortunately a 116 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 3: little bit short by five points in the game. 117 00:05:54,839 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, and it unfortunately it feels like to me this 118 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 6: is what they are, meaning they've lost five games in 119 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 6: the last two minutes easily, you know, I say easily 120 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 6: could have been x, right, But also what the league 121 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 6: is is winning games like this in the last couple 122 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 6: of weeks. You know, I don't think I can say 123 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 6: either of the last two weeks that I walked out 124 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 6: of the stadium thinking the Jaguars blew that one to 125 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 6: a team they should have beaten. You know, they would 126 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 6: have been playing a little bit above what you expected 127 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 6: to win either one. So in that sense, you give 128 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 6: the players points for you know, Valiants, I guess, But 129 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 6: I'm also tired of that, right, I mean, I think 130 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 6: fans listening to this or tired. Well, they played hard, 131 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 6: they so I think they're a team right now. That 132 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 6: is when it's gonna take something unusual for them to 133 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 6: get over that hump, because they've shown us what they are. 134 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 6: And I wish that wasn't true, but that feels like 135 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 6: what this season has been, Bucky. 136 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 4: It has been that. 137 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 5: And when people show you who they are, you got 138 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 5: to believe them. And Bill par Sales will say you 139 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 5: are what your record is. And the Jaguars are sitting 140 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 5: at two and seven, and we can talk about them 141 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 5: having five losses by five points and fewer, but there 142 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 5: was still losses. Have been able to make the key 143 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 5: plays when you need to make him in the late. 144 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 4: Stages of games, so you have to own it. And DEEG. 145 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 5: Peterson was at his presso talking about accountability and how 146 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 5: to you keep the team playing hard in those things 147 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 5: you show them to tape, you talk about the little things, 148 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 5: you hold them accountable for doing the little things. I mean, look, 149 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 5: it's been a year and a half talking about the 150 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 5: same talk, right We've had the same conversation in some way, 151 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 5: shape or form since last year, and the team still 152 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 5: has not done it. He can continue to preach it, 153 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 5: but until the take the message to heart, it will 154 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 5: be the same result over and over and over. 155 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 6: Again, and Bucky, am I reading this right, it sort 156 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 6: of feels like to the Eagles, rightly or wrongly, it 157 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 6: kind of showed me they're a team that is Maybe 158 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 6: I don't know if matures the right word or experience whatever, 159 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 6: but Saquon Barkley makes some big time plays to win 160 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 6: that game. Jalen Hurts makes some big time plays to 161 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 6: win that game. DeVante Smith, they're big time players. The 162 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 6: DeVante Smith play, I mean, everybody's talking about the Saquon 163 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 6: play because it made headlines, but the Smith catch at 164 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 6: the end of the or on third and twenty two, 165 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 6: that play should have been a field goal, right, that 166 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 6: should have been three points, but Hurts threw it up 167 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 6: trusted and said, my guy can make that play. I 168 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 6: think the Jaguars have Brian Thomas Junior who can make 169 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 6: that play. Trayvon on defense is that level guy. I 170 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 6: don't know if the Jaguars like BTJ may not be 171 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 6: there yet in that moment. I think he's gonna be 172 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 6: that player going forward. But Bucky, it felt like the 173 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 6: big time players were the difference in that game on Sunday. 174 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 5: And I would say the Eagles won in spite of 175 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 5: the faulty and flaw coaching that Nick Sirianni provided them. 176 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: This was a game. 177 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 5: If I'm an Eagles fan, I'm upset because this was 178 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 5: a game that should have been forty to something. For 179 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 5: the Eagles, they had more than enough opportunities, particularly in 180 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 5: the first half, to knock the Jaguars out. 181 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 4: To the Jaguars credit, they fought and got back. 182 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 5: But for our team, yeah, they're not enough guys that 183 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 5: are making those gotta have it plays in those moments. Offensively, 184 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 5: Brian Thomas Junior is the number one receiver. He is 185 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 5: second to the second guy with rate as Evan Ingram, 186 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 5: and then I would say Tank Bigsby and Travis Etienn 187 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 5: and forth in terms of the pecking order in critical moments, 188 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 5: the ball. 189 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 4: Has to go to your best players. 190 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 5: I am disappointed at the ball somehow found this way 191 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 5: to Darrenis Johnson. 192 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 4: He's a solid player, he's a good player in his role. 193 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 5: But games should not be decided on whether we throw 194 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 5: fifty fifty balls up to the Dearnie Johnson. And so that's 195 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 5: something that has to improve. And whether that's a coordinator thing, 196 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 5: whether that's the Trevor thing, the ball needs to end 197 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 5: up in the direction of your best players, because those 198 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 5: guys are the most impactful players that you have on 199 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 5: your team. 200 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 3: Or if it's covered, throw it into the stands. I 201 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 3: mean that I lived second down. 202 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's also another good idea to understand situation to 203 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 5: make sure that you don't make a bad play. Yes, 204 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 5: that is something that you definitely want to consider and 205 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 5: probably execute. 206 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 3: All right, we've got plenty ahead. We'll come back in 207 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 3: a moment, and we're going to move it forward. The 208 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 3: Eagles game is flushed. We're done with it, complete with 209 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 3: sound effects. This is huddle up with bucket b. 210 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 7: I think the talent around him, you know, I mean 211 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 7: that helps, right, I mean just having having having the 212 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 7: run game of the defense, the way the defense has played, 213 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 7: you know, being in in coach O'Connell's system and in 214 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 7: the way he calls plays, I think is helpful. And 215 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 7: and look, he's he's always been. He's always been a 216 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 7: solid quarterback and whatever team or role he's on. I 217 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 7: just think now he's learning, maturing and and showing. 218 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 4: That he's capable of doing it. 219 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 7: And and that's what you're seeing on on film, you know, 220 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 7: taking care of the football. 221 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 4: That's a big part of this thing. 222 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 7: And and to yes, Justin Jefferson is a you know, 223 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 7: obviously an elite receiver in this league that you know 224 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 7: can can recavoc on you. 225 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 3: Said coach Doug Peterson today asked about Sam Darnold and 226 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 3: his effectiveness so far. 227 00:11:58,440 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: Welcome back. 228 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 3: It's huddle up with but he brookes j P Shadwick, 229 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: John Oser and Jacksonville Bucky out in La The full 230 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 3: press conference with the head coach at Jaguars dot Com 231 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 3: or the Jaguars YouTube channel. 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How Tomorrow moves, 237 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 3: Sam Darnald. 238 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 6: I have a question for the scout, okay, or for 239 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 6: the league analyst, and I know this is what we're 240 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 6: talking about, so I've jumped in on you JP. 241 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 4: Okay. 242 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 6: You know Sam Donald, is he part of a trend 243 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 6: meaning a second team guy. He's on his second team 244 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 6: right JP thir thirteen. Well even better, even better for 245 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 6: my point. 246 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: Fourth team? Right? Who is fourth team? 247 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 6: The league so much different, Bucky than the NFL in 248 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 6: college football? Are we going to see more guys like 249 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 6: the es who need time, who get given up on 250 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 6: at the quarterback position? And now Mayfield's doing it, and 251 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 6: I think we're about to see a lot of these guys. 252 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna see a lot of it because the 253 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 5: first teams aren't exhibiting the patients that you probably need 254 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 5: to with a young player. 255 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 6: But can then, right, I get why they don't do it. 256 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 6: The league set up poorly for these guys. Right now, 257 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 6: it is. 258 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 4: But then the other thing I would say, John, like, 259 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 4: when you take that it should be an investment. 260 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 5: And so rather than the rush to get guys on 261 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 5: the field, the rush should be to develop. 262 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 4: Them until they're ready to play. 263 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 5: And the best teams should draft a quarterback before you 264 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 5: need a quarterback. And so if you have a quarterback 265 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 5: that is nearing the end of his run, maybe two 266 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 5: years before he's done, you begin to bring into young 267 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 5: quarterbacks so you can develop him and give him an opportunity. 268 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 5: We have seen that model work multiple instances in Green Bay. 269 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 5: We've seen it work in Kansas City, Alex Smith and 270 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 5: Pat Mahomes. 271 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 4: There's a way that. 272 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 5: You can successfully prepare your young quarterback. And what executives 273 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 5: have to do is ignore the outside noise that are 274 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 5: telling you eight o'clock is running. We got to get 275 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 5: him in the super Bowl window during this rookie contract. 276 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 5: It should be when can we get him ready to play? 277 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 5: And we will play and when he's ready to play, 278 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 5: whether it's this year, next year, or two years from now, 279 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 5: we need to do what's right by the player as 280 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 5: opposed to trying to get the quick fix and do 281 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 5: it with a cheap rookie contract that quarterback. 282 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: I mean, same idea in Atlanta, right, except Pennix is 283 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 3: a little bit older than the normal rookie coming in 284 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 3: in a first round pick. I mean he's what twenty 285 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 3: six years old or something, But same idea with cousins there. 286 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look, yeah, he's a little older, but 287 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 5: not not like Brandon Weed or any of those guys. 288 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 5: I mean he's like twenty five whatever. But that's still 289 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 5: the same premise. You want to have him in the building, 290 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 5: you want to have him learn from the veteran. You 291 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 5: want him to make all the mistakes on the practice field, 292 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 5: so when he's given the ball, he feels comfortable. In 293 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 5: the nat Football League and we can talk about the 294 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 5: speed of. 295 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 4: The game and how you may be prepared or whatever. 296 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 5: The NFL is a different ball of wax than anything 297 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 5: that you've experienced as a collegiate player, and the teams 298 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 5: that you're seeing that kind of take a slow cook 299 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 5: process when it comes to the quarterback and having more success. 300 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 5: The other thing that you're seeing is because Baker Mayfield 301 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 5: and Sam Donald are cast off very early in their careers, 302 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 5: general managers will always give those guys two or three 303 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 5: bites at the apple because if you were a first 304 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 5: round pick, universally they viewed you as someone who had 305 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 5: enough talent to deserve multiple chances to see if you 306 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 5: can unlock it. New environment, new scheme, new coach, whatever 307 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 5: it is. You get those second and third chances when 308 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 5: you're a top pick. 309 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, JPI, had somebody asked me the O today, Oh, 310 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 6: Anthony Richardson, he's going to be done. 311 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: He won't be. 312 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 6: A chance, and maybe he might be a guy who 313 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 6: sort of fits into this too. I have no idea 314 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 6: what the cultu are going to do obviously, but he 315 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 6: goes to a team after this season if they happen 316 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 6: to do that through that route. Sobody says, yeah, we'll 317 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 6: take them, We'll sit them for two years, and we'll 318 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 6: let them because we can't. You say it's the Browns. 319 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 6: I don't know who would be. But the Browns can say, yeah, 320 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 6: there's no pressure here. None of our fans expect anything 321 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 6: from this guy, so we can take our time with 322 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 6: this guy, whereas in the Colts you couldn't. So it's uh, 323 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 6: but I don't know if we're going to see much 324 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 6: of a change bucket because I don't think most franchises 325 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 6: have the patience to draft a guy early and then 326 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 6: give them time. The ones that know what they're doing 327 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 6: do and have the patience to tell their fans, yeah, 328 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 6: we hear the noise, but you know, you go ahead 329 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 6: and make your noise. We're going to do it the 330 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 6: right way. It's hard, It's really hard. Yeah, it is hard, 331 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 6: but it takes complete buy in. 332 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 5: It takes buy in not only from the coach being 333 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 5: able to do it, but everyone has to be in alignment, 334 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 5: from top to bottom, ownership, front office, coaches. This is 335 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 5: the best player for us to take we need a 336 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 5: franchise quarterback. We're not going to play this franchise quarterback 337 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 5: into twenty twenty six. So I just need you to understand, Yes, 338 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 5: we use the top pick, but we're gonna ignore the 339 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 5: noise for everyone saying he has to get them to 340 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 5: the field and we're going to develop him the right way. 341 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 5: And if you do that and you're successful doing it 342 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 5: down the line, the owner saved millions on millions on 343 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 5: millions of dollars because he has a quarterback for the 344 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 5: next decade. You need to make sure that you're getting 345 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 5: the right guys and you need to have a plan 346 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 5: that really works. We're seeing too many young guys cycled 347 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 5: in and out of the starting lineup by this second year. 348 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 5: There's not enough time to full the evaluate if a 349 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 5: player could play or not. 350 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 6: JP remember the stink in Atlanta when they draft. 351 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: Oh no doubt. Yeah, people paying. 352 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 6: Them like they were idiots. And you know, when you 353 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:42,479 Speaker 6: really look at how you do it, yeah, the approach 354 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 6: makes no sense. 355 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 3: Two years from now and we'll find out right just 356 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 3: in Atlanta, you know what helps the quarterback really increase 357 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 3: their level of play. A guy named Justin Jefferson on 358 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 3: the outside right and a running game to go with it, 359 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 3: and other receivers who can play. Oh and maybe the 360 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 3: tight end's coming back this week too. When you have 361 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 3: those piece and offensive line that's really darn good for 362 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 3: the most part, they just had it Cam Robinson a 363 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 3: left tackle on an injury there. When you have Justin 364 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 3: Jefferson out there, you always have a chance bucket. It 365 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 3: feels like, what is it about Justin's game? And I mean, 366 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 3: what's is There's nothing lacking from their game? 367 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: Is there? 368 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 5: No, there's nothing lacking for the game. And I think 369 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 5: the thing that is remarkable. Normally when you see a 370 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 5: guy who is as decorated as he is, he was 371 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 5: someone that came in the first round who was would 372 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 5: have all of the tools that. 373 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 4: You look for. 374 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 5: I mean, he would be a top five or top 375 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 5: ten pick or whatever. Justin Jefferson is different because slender frame, 376 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 5: slight build. But what he is is a high level 377 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 5: alpha dog competitor who shows up in the biggest and 378 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 5: brightest moments. He's a terrific pass catcher, he has great 379 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 5: ball skills, outstanding right route runner. But beyond all of 380 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 5: those things, the one word that I was described Justin 381 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 5: Jefferson as clutch. 382 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 4: When the game is on the line and they need 383 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 4: a play. 384 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 5: Justin Jefferson is going to make that plays the time 385 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 5: and time again in his young career. 386 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, so hard to scout. Some team's passed on him twice. 387 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 4: That's amazing, right, that it is? 388 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 6: It is, I leave it. 389 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, And he's going against the Jaguars defense that has 390 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 3: struggled certainly to say the least in the passing game 391 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 3: this year and giving up big plays. We just talked 392 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 3: about it, big plays, big moments, you know down the field. 393 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 3: They give up seven plays at twenty or more yards 394 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 3: last week. 395 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 4: The Jags did all right. 396 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 6: And the striking thing in their JP is all the 397 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 6: third and longs, third, long, That just it's become a 398 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 6: theme this week. I know, third and forever. Bucky wrote 399 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 6: it and has always well done. Scouts take this morning, 400 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 6: but it's it's, uh, I'm not sure or see anything 401 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 6: like it, the not only what it does to you 402 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 6: on the field, but the crushing gut punch of the moment. 403 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 6: To feel like twice in that game the other day, 404 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 6: and it's been a season long thing. You feel like, Okay, 405 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 6: they're gonna get up three, they played good defense, You're 406 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 6: third and long, Okay, they got out of it, and 407 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 6: then boom touchdown, Boom touchdown. Not only is it eight points, 408 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 6: but it's just the feeling that you did your job 409 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 6: and now it's gone like it's it's crushing. And to me, 410 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 6: the two things that define this season are those plays, 411 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 6: you know, not being able to get off the field 412 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 6: on third and long and then the slow starts. I mean, yeah, 413 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 6: those things. It's not hard to believe you're two and 414 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 6: seven when you're playing in those situations like that. 415 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 4: Yeh. Look, it's a tough thing to talk about because. 416 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 5: In the offseason Ryan Nielsen talked about nothing cheap and 417 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 5: nothing deep, being able to have the awareness to keep 418 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 5: everything in front of the defense despite being a team 419 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 5: that leaned heavily into man to man. The thing that 420 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 5: is really frustrating to me when I watched the team, 421 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 5: I mean multiple times on third and forever, we talked 422 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 5: about forever being fifteen plus. 423 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 4: They gave it up. The first one they give up 424 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 4: to Saquon Barkley. 425 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 5: They run an inside running play, he doesn't get touched 426 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 5: on a nineteen yard scamper into the end zone, which 427 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 5: is crazy to think about that. 428 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 4: That should have been a field goal. And then this 429 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 4: is time to get off the field where you got 430 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 4: him backed up. 431 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 5: It's third and forever falls in twenty two and you 432 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 5: let him throw it over the top of the defense. 433 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 5: It's problematic. And the other part that is problematic about 434 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 5: that drive in particular, they started out on the nine 435 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 5: yard line. They have a ninety one yard drive where 436 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 5: they had three explosive plays. Saquon Barkley pops a big one, 437 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 5: Devonte Smith catches it deep over and then he seals. 438 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 4: The deal with a touchdown over top. 439 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 5: To me, the Jags would never be what they could 440 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 5: be on defense until they eliminate the big plays. 441 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 4: Just too many explosive plays for. 442 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 5: A team that talked about neutralizing the explosive plays all offseason. 443 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 444 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 6: And the problem there is you've got to the point 445 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 6: where you you're not surprised. 446 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 3: It's almost inevitable. Oh boy, they can play a good game. 447 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 3: So something's coming. 448 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: Well. 449 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 6: And the draw, frankly, a third and seventeen, third nineteen. 450 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 6: I hate to keep looking back, but third nineteen draw. 451 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 6: You're not trying to score, No, really, I mean you'd 452 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 6: like to score, but you're not calling that play in 453 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 6: the huddle thinking we're getting seven. 454 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: Here, We're going to get about six or seven. 455 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 6: That's found money for that team. So it's ah. 456 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 3: And so the reaction on the sideline when it happened too, 457 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 3: I mean, they weren't expecting, they were surprised, jumping around 458 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 3: pretty cool. 459 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 6: And in fairness, I don't necessarily think the play that 460 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 6: DeVante Smith made, I'm not sure that that was as 461 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 6: much of a lapse as it was a great play. 462 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 6: So if you're trying to be fair, that's an NFL 463 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 6: player making a big time play. 464 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 3: All right, Let's wrap up this Jaguars defense against the 465 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,239 Speaker 3: Vikings offense discussion. 466 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: With a big matchup this week. 467 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 3: Former Jaguars tackle Cam Robinson got a game ball last 468 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 3: week and his debut with the Minnesota Vikings, the first 469 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 3: game ball in the locker room on their website video 470 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 3: and all that for coming in on Wednesday and then 471 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 3: starting on Sunday and helping lead them to a victory 472 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 3: last week where they had to rally to get it 473 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 3: done on Sunday night against the Colts. So Cam Robinson 474 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 3: against Josh Heinz Allen Bucky, what's your scouting report with 475 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 3: this matchup. 476 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 5: Oh, this is the un where Josh Heines Allen has 477 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 5: a little book on Cam Robinson. 478 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 4: He's going to attack him. 479 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 5: To think about it, Cam Robinson has a better supporting 480 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 5: cast around him, and so they can do some things 481 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 5: to make it easier for Cam to win his blocks. 482 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 4: That can slide the protection to him. 483 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 5: He can overseet and make sure that he lures Josh 484 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 5: heines Allen inside. But I heard Doug talk about it 485 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 5: and he kind of seem nonchenline about Cam coming back like, yeah, 486 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 5: you know. 487 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 4: Probably be a little weird for him. 488 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 5: No, no, no, Doug, I'm gonna tell you Cam Robinson 489 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 5: is going to be on level ten. It might be 490 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 5: the best game that we've seen for him because it's personal. 491 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 4: He's coming back and everybody has that. 492 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 5: Emotion that they carry when you feel like you might 493 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 5: have been wrong by a team real or not, or 494 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 5: when you've been traded away. There's always some kind of 495 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 5: personal thing that you have that's gonna allow him to 496 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 5: play at a high emotional level. 497 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 4: That battle should be fun to watch though, between he 498 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 4: and Josh hindz out. 499 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 500 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 6: My thought on Cam and Cam I think you know, 501 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 6: I mean Cam JP, I think you know Cam better 502 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 6: than I do. You know the Bama guys. I know 503 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 6: you bonded a little bit with him over the years. Sure, 504 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 6: But my impression of Cam is that this game he 505 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 6: will play with his hair on, you know. And he's 506 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 6: the kind of guy who loves football, loves talking, loves 507 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 6: being in it enough that he'll play into that. My impression, too, though, 508 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,959 Speaker 6: is once this is all over, meaning his career, I 509 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 6: think there'll be a fondness and a connection for Cam 510 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 6: with the Jaguars as a whole. I mean, I don't 511 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 6: think he's gonna in fifteen years hate the Jags, but 512 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 6: I think he'll have fun with this in the moment. 513 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 6: And you know, and it's hard to describe, but Cam 514 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 6: is one of the guys. He likes the money, don't 515 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 6: get me wrong, but he'd play football. He likes playing 516 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 6: football and likes being involved with it to talk and 517 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 6: likes interacting with other players on Twitter, likes being in it. 518 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 6: So I think I think he'll love this moment and 519 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 6: I expect him to play well. 520 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, when he is. 521 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 3: In the past, we've seen it when he's had any 522 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 3: kind of extra motivation or need to, and he has 523 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 3: to crank it up. Then okay, he can go physically 524 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 3: move some people around. That's been at least in the 525 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 3: past around here. And you know, there were some questions. 526 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 3: I think this off season, end of the season, does 527 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 3: he really have that fire anymore? And you know, I 528 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 3: think that's part of the reason why he might not 529 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 3: be around here right now. And I think he'd be 530 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 3: about to go prove that again. So yeah, you've gotta 531 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 3: get ready because it's gonna go. If it goes to ten, 532 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 3: he might go to eleven. 533 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 6: It's kind of what makes football fun, right, That's what 534 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,719 Speaker 6: it's supposed to. This is what it's supposed to be. 535 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 3: It'll be good competition and you know, they'll there'll be 536 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 3: some chatter back and forth and then they'll play and 537 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 3: then they'll shake hands with the end. 538 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: That's cam. 539 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 4: So you think I love JP, I love JP dot com. 540 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 4: You are about this. 541 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 5: You know absolutely well that this is going to be 542 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 5: like one of those personal affairs and you talk about 543 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 5: there be some banner and all that. Uh, look, I 544 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 5: think it's going to be beyond that, just because of 545 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 5: the ending. And I know it hasn't been fully shared 546 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 5: or whatever, but I can tell you it was a 547 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 5: very contentious conversation UH that they had at that last 548 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 5: game that Cam was at UH. 549 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 4: I think that carries over and whenever a player. 550 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 5: Never remember we all have big egos and so we 551 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,479 Speaker 5: always feel like we've been wrong and we're always looking 552 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 5: for that one little nugget to prove people wrong. The 553 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 5: Jaguars have given Cam that nugget. I think he will 554 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 5: play at a higher level. And also remember this, he 555 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 5: would take on the culture of the Vikings. The Vikings 556 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 5: are winning, they have something to play for. He has 557 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 5: an opportunity to go into the postseason. 558 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 4: And do some stuff. 559 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 5: I would expect to see the best that we've seen 560 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 5: from camp in a little while. 561 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 3: And he's been the last couple of years, especially you know, 562 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 3: if you needed an edge on offense, he was the 563 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 3: guy that would grab another player's face mask and rip 564 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 3: the hell He got. 565 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 6: Ejected one time, Yes, in day one, he's done that. 566 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 3: He's kind of been that guy and we haven't seen 567 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 3: that yet this year. So well, this week might be 568 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 3: the week. We'll see what happens. It's gonna be a 569 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 3: great matchup. We're back in a moment plenty ahead. We'll 570 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 3: flip it around and take a look at the Jaguars 571 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 3: offense against the Vikings defense that takes the football away 572 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 3: and Jags fans want customized Jags furniture for your home. 573 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 3: Check out zipchare dot com to browse all customizable options 574 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 3: Zipchair Furniture for fans. 575 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,719 Speaker 1: Huddle up with Bucky Brooks. 576 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 8: We're running our base stuff. Yeah, we're just kind of 577 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 8: moving moving Bury when that happens. So you know, we'll 578 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 8: look at everything. We're gonna trust the coaches in the 579 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 8: plan they put together. So but yeah, we got to 580 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 8: continue to be great that we just got. We guys 581 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 8: improved our normal gone and distance huddle calls too, so 582 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 8: you can't just rely on that. We got to be 583 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 8: able to break the huddle call, different game plan plays, execute. 584 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 3: Its Evan Ingram with John Ozer lurking behind him in 585 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 3: the locker room today, welcome back. It's huddle up with 586 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks, Jay Shadrick and John Oser and Jacksonville. Bucky 587 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 3: Brooks in Los Angeles and Evan Ingram with one hundred 588 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 3: and thirty nine receptions since twenty twenty three, second most 589 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 3: among all tight ends and eight most overall in the NFL, 590 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 3: and he's been okay since coming back from injury, twenty 591 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 3: four catches two hundred and eighteen receiving yards since coming 592 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 3: back in Week six. But hey, the Jaguars this week, 593 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 3: we already talked about the question mark at the quarterback position. 594 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 3: That's obviously priority number one. We'll see what happens as 595 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 3: the week goes along with Trevor Lawrence and Mac Jones 596 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 3: and the reps and everything that goes into that. They're 597 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 3: going against the Vikings defense, Bucky. That is, they're the 598 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 3: number of the second highest blitz rate in the NFL. 599 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 3: Bryan runs the show there on defense. They're not scared 600 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 3: to bring it a bunch of different ways. They take 601 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 3: the ball away second most in the NFL, most interceptions 602 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 3: in the league. 603 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: You see it on your screen. The scoring defense, they don't. 604 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 3: They allowed seventeen or fewer in five of their eight 605 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 3: games this year. So this is a really talented defense. 606 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 3: But what makes them so talented, Bucky. 607 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 5: What makes them talented is Brian Flooryes is super aggressive 608 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 5: in terms of how he goes after the quarterback, but 609 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 5: he does it and what I call a safe fashion. 610 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 5: He has taken something that has been used like wildfire 611 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 5: at the collegiate level, and he has made it his 612 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 5: own at the NFL level. You were here Parkour football 613 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 5: people talk about what they call. 614 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 4: Them hot blitzes. 615 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 5: So what it is is a six or seven man pressure, 616 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 5: but you're playing zone behind it. The fear used to 617 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 5: be when you were bringing six or seven you would 618 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 5: have to play man demand. Well, what these guys are 619 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 5: doing is they're playing with their eyes on the quarterback. 620 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 4: They're bringing pressure and. 621 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 5: So the quarterback has to get it off and then 622 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 5: they're reacting quick to the throw. But they're adding layers 623 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 5: to it defensively by not only blitzing like that. When 624 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 5: there they're bluffing and disguising and falling into these eight 625 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 5: man drops where it's a three man brush, it's eight 626 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 5: guys in coverage, and so the quarterback and play caller 627 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 5: are playing a guessing game the entire night, and it's unusual. 628 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 5: It's unlike anything that anybody else is doing. It is 629 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 5: going to test the patients, the discipline and the overall 630 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 5: awareness of the quarterback to deal with the defense that 631 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 5: likes to do this stuff. 632 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 6: And that can be exhausting for a quarterback. You have 633 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 6: to do that mentally. The whole game. I can remember 634 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 6: the US to cover the Colts back in the day. Yeah, 635 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 6: And I can remember there were games after they played 636 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 6: the Ravens, for example, where Peyton would talk about just 637 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 6: being tired mentally because it took so much thought every 638 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 6: play to trying to figure out what's going on. So 639 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 6: here's the question, is, Bucky, how do you combat it? 640 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 6: What's what do offenses do? I mean, it's a way 641 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 6: to beat everything. What's the key? 642 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 4: You gotta be on your p's and q's. 643 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 5: Man, you got to dialog to Teams that have had 644 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 5: success have found a way to kind of stay ahead 645 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 5: of the change. They've been able to run the football 646 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 5: at that. But I mean, it's a guessing game. It's 647 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 5: a bit of a shell game that Brian Floyd's likes 648 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 5: to utilize against the quarterback and the play caller, and 649 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 5: so you have to be able to get into it. 650 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 5: One of the things that is an old school cap 651 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 5: tactic against it is to play a little quicker and 652 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 5: with tempo. Now it doesn't mean that you're going no 653 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 5: huddle up tempo right away, but it could be as 654 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 5: simple as here, go play comes in, huddle up, get 655 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 5: out the huddle, line up, first sound, go don't allow 656 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 5: them to do a lot of that bluffing and disguising 657 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 5: by going quickly on first down early to then give 658 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 5: yourself a chance to play against more of their vanilla 659 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 5: looks as opposed to the exotic crazy stuff. Final point, 660 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 5: can't get in third and long situations. If you're in 661 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 5: third and seven plus, you're playing right into the hands 662 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 5: of that monster. 663 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 4: You gotta stay ahead of the chains. This will have. 664 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 5: To be the best play calling performance of Press, Taylor 665 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 5: and Doug that we've seen today because his defense is 666 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 5: that good. 667 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 6: I have a final question before we move on from 668 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 6: the Vikings. Yes, and this is me just covering one 669 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 6: team and not being in depth with the rest of 670 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 6: the league as much as I'd like to be, But Bucky, 671 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 6: to me, the Vikings are quietly a really consistent, really 672 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 6: good franchise. I would necessarily say they're Ravens, Steelers, Packers consistent, 673 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 6: but they've been good for a while, even with different coaches, 674 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,479 Speaker 6: different personnel. What do they do right? Why are they 675 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 6: able to be so consistent? 676 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 5: Here's what I'll say about the Minnesota Vikings and why 677 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 5: they've been able to get it right. One to head 678 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 5: coach is really smart, really bright. Kevin O'Connell. Kevin O'Connell 679 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 5: played in New England, was drafted by New England. 680 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 4: He's taken dis and pieces of that. 681 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 5: He's taken what he's learned from Sean McVay and those 682 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 5: guys along the way. 683 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 4: So he's really good. 684 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 5: He written hired a really good coach and Brian Flores 685 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 5: and the coaches are really good in terms of developing players, 686 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 5: but really being on it when it comes to situational awareness. 687 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 4: The organization is a plus when. 688 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 5: You talk to people that work in the building, whether 689 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 5: it's on the business side or the football side, a plus, 690 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 5: first class and everything they do so they're able to 691 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,959 Speaker 5: retain good people because they treat them well. And so 692 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 5: it's one of those environments that we can talk about 693 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 5: the weather and challenges of bringing players up there, but 694 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 5: because they treat their people in such a good manner, 695 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 5: they don't want to go anywhere. And so when you 696 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 5: have a happy environment, you have more production, more enthusiasm 697 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 5: when it comes to performing. 698 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 4: That's what you're getting when you get the Minnesota Vikings. 699 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, they've been striking. They switched head coaches, yeah, and 700 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 6: again haven't gotten to the Super Bowl, so I think 701 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 6: a lot of people miss it. But they're a consistent 702 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 6: and I do rankings each week and with like every 703 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 6: week I'm putting them at for four or five, six 704 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,719 Speaker 6: years putting them at eight, and not really sure why 705 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 6: they're that good, but they always wind up being there 706 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 6: at the end and you look up in there and 707 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 6: they won five in a row. So an impressive organization. 708 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 3: They've had cousins for a little while, certainly before his 709 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,479 Speaker 3: move to Atlanta, and then now they've kind of fell 710 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 3: into Darnold and he's playing well. After they drafted a 711 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 3: quarterback or earlier this year got hurt in training camp. 712 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 3: Here's a big question. I don't know how it's a 713 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 3: little off topic. You mentioned Brian Flores, former head coach. 714 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 3: You think he'll get a shot again Bucky. 715 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 4: I think at some point he will. 716 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 5: Now the lawsuit and all that kind of clouds everything. 717 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 5: But let me know what I would say about Brian 718 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 5: Flores is he made some missteps the first time around 719 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 5: in Miami and that was related to relationships. In those things, 720 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 5: I don't think you can question how well they played 721 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 5: and how they performed offensively. He has to figure out 722 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 5: how to find the right coordinator for what he wants 723 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 5: because he went through a few offensive coordinators, but defensive defensively, 724 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 5: they're one of the tops in the league. They gave 725 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 5: you problems he coaches. I think he's learned from his 726 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 5: problems that he had, particularly with two tongue, by lowering 727 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 5: some of the other players there. 728 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 4: He'll be a much better coach the second go around. 729 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 5: But he might just be destined to be one of 730 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 5: those great coordinators that we always talk about it. I mean, 731 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 5: this team is like lights out. They're really connected offense defense, 732 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 5: special teams in terms of playing confidend and re ball. 733 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 5: I'll say it's one of the best situations that you 734 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 5: can find where you have a former head coach as 735 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 5: a defensive coordinator who gets the big picture that allows 736 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 5: the offensive mind to head coach to do what he 737 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 5: does really well, which is be the play caller and 738 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 5: the overall leader. 739 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,760 Speaker 4: They really have it going on in Minnesota. 740 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 3: All right, we'll come back with our final thoughts about 741 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 3: this Vikings Jaguars matchup in week number ten. 742 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: It is huddle up with bucking crumpts. 743 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 4: That's the goal I'm doing ever that can to be 744 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:56,919 Speaker 4: out there. 745 00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:59,959 Speaker 1: You know, and like it's in the past, I've gotten 746 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: thinged up in the past. 747 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 4: I've just tried to evering candy in the week, pre 748 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:03,720 Speaker 4: for myself to play. 749 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 8: Sunday and just as much time as possible into that 750 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 8: and getting healthy. 751 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 4: So that's the way my mind is right now. 752 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 3: That's the quarterback, Trevor Lawrence. We'll see how his status continues. 753 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 1: This week. 754 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 3: It's huddled up with Bucky Brooks. Brought to you by 755 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 3: Field's Auto Group Jacksonville. See Fields First, Jacksonville's premier luxury 756 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 3: auto group. Go to Fieldsauto dot Com. It's huddled up 757 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 3: with Bucky Brooks, JP Shatterick and John Oser and Jacksonville, 758 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 3: the Miller Electric Center, the Hundai Studios, Bucky Brooks in La. 759 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 3: Tough stretch continues Vikings this week at the Lions, the 760 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 3: bye week, and then the Texans come to town. That's 761 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 3: just the nature of it this time of year. We 762 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 3: knew that this five game stretch was going to be 763 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 3: a challenge. Certainly is with the Vikings six and two, 764 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 3: and they're right in the race in the toughest division 765 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,720 Speaker 3: in football, the NFC North. The Lions lead the way there. 766 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 3: Minnesota six and two, Green Bay six and three, Chicago 767 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 3: four and four. So you know Minnesota is gonna be 768 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 3: locked in and ready and because they need every game 769 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 3: they can get right now, Bucky, Yeah. 770 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 5: This is this is interesting because that division is the 771 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 5: best in bold and we just think about back to 772 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 5: back weeks. 773 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 4: I mean, just like I mean, this month. 774 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 5: Was was was not ideal in terms of like facing 775 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 5: all those teams. But when you think about the Green 776 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 5: Bay Packers and then back to back weeks the Minnesota 777 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 5: Vikings and the Detroit Lions, I mean, two of the 778 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 5: best teams in football, this is a tough little stretch 779 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 5: and what you're dealing with they talk about the Black 780 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 5: and Blue Division. The Jaguars are being exposed to the 781 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 5: rough and rugged physicality that these teams played with, and 782 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 5: so you got to get ready for it. 783 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 4: It takes it up a notch. 784 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 5: It reminds me of being with the Jaguars and playing 785 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 5: the old Pittsburgh Stillers teams. 786 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 4: In the past. 787 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 5: This is what it's like, and this is what it's 788 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 5: gonna be like the next two weeks because both of 789 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 5: those teams prefer to play pick football with their big 790 00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 5: boy pats on. 791 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 6: Yeah, what you worry about is Uh, you know, you 792 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 6: had a couple of games in a row where you've 793 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 6: really had to grind it out, play tough, haven't gotten 794 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 6: the results you wanted, laid it all out, played to 795 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 6: the last whistle if you will. You worry about how 796 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 6: long you can keep doing that when you don't get 797 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 6: the results. And you know, at some point, often when 798 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 6: you're struggling, have a couple of fight, fight, fight, and 799 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:31,720 Speaker 6: then you have one where it goes. 800 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 4: Off the rails. 801 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 6: Uh, I hope. I'm hoping that doesn't happen, goes the 802 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 6: other way. But that's what you sort of watch for 803 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 6: having seen situations like this is when it's just a yeah, 804 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 6: I can't do it again. 805 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 8: Uh. 806 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 6: Now I don't anticipate that because somebody actually asked me, 807 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 6: do you feel like they're quitting, giving up on Doug whatever? 808 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 6: And I'm like, if you watch the last two games, 809 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 6: you haven't seen that. 810 00:38:58,680 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: No way. 811 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 6: I found a silly question because I don't know. I 812 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 6: don't talk to players, but you watch these games last 813 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 6: couple weeks. This is a team with heart, isn't even fight. Unfortunately, 814 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 6: fight doesn't matter if you don't win, So it's there. 815 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 3: And with the injury bug, continuing. I mean at some 816 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 3: point that that attrition is gonna catch up. 817 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 6: It's hard to have, thank you, and I have to 818 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 6: talk about the stamina, you know, can you keep We 819 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 6: talked about it for the game. That's why I told 820 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,800 Speaker 6: him I was worried about against Green Bay. It's do 821 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 6: you have the stamina to finish when it's really hard 822 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 6: against a physical team and you're not in it that 823 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 6: it's hard to fight through that. I think it's gonna 824 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 6: be an issue again this or it's going to be 825 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 6: a storyline to watch again on Sunday. 826 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 5: But yes, I'm interested in storyline to watch. And you 827 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 5: talked about the competitive stamina and just being able to 828 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 5: kind of deal with all the things that you have 829 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 5: to deal with when you're. 830 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 4: An elite team. 831 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 5: Like one of the things that we talk about that 832 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 5: what separates good from grading the league is the ability 833 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 5: to show up each and every week and bring your 834 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 5: A level performance. It's never done where you can bring 835 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 5: your A game each week. But the really good teams 836 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 5: are able to play at a high level and even 837 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 5: when they're a little off, they find another. 838 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 4: Level to go to in a game to get a win. 839 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 4: We're seeing that right now. 840 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 5: With kan City, who we all feel like hasn't played 841 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 5: their best game, but yet they sit at the top 842 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 5: of the league undefeated. 843 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 4: It's the same thing. 844 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 5: That you look at when you look at Minnesota and 845 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 5: Detroit and some of those other teams. It's one of 846 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,399 Speaker 5: the things that the Jaguars need to learn once they 847 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 5: start winning games, how to kind of put that together 848 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 5: when you can run off six seven in a row 849 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 5: despite whatever adversity you may be facing internally. 850 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 3: All Right, that'll do it for the show today, Bucky, 851 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 3: have a great week. We'll see you here at the 852 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 3: Bank on Sunday. 853 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 4: Man appreciate it should be fun. 854 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,760 Speaker 3: Oh, it's gonna be fun. That's Bucky Brooks in Los Angeles. 855 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,879 Speaker 3: Sean Oser. I'm JP Shattercker. Thanks to David Choe, Brent Reaver, 856 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 3: Joe Fortunado, our entire Jaguars dot Com crew. 857 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 1: This is Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.