1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: We're on from one to four every day one to four, 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: and then you can hear all the show on podcast 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: Johnny kennon demand on the iHeartRadio app or on the 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: KFI website. Yes, and you can still win money. In 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes, another keyword will be revealed. Listen closely 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: to the word. John Colbelt repeats it, which is very 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: nice of him. And then no, no, no one tells 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: you to You do this because you want to help 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: people win. I also know that people are barely paying 10 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: attention to this whole thing, so so it comes up 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: around two twenty later on this hour, I'm getting another 12 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: response for the police union for LAPD officers to this 13 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: idea that well should respond to all traffic accidents, you know, 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: minor ones with mental health people, no cops with guns. 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: And of course this comes out of the death of 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: a man who happened to be that comes him the 17 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: co founder of Black Lives Matter, when he was acting 18 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: incredibly bizarrely and erratically and police just tried to restrain 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: him and that didn't go well, so they had to 20 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: teaze him and he died later at a hospital. So 21 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: this is the road we go down. We'll talk about 22 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: it coming up after the news at two thirty here 23 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: on the Johnny Kenchi all right, here are the steps 24 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: to oblivion. California passes a law mandating only electric cars 25 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: can be sold by twenty thirty five new cars, Yes, 26 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: new cars. Virginia copies that law. As soon as California 27 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: pulls that trigger, then that trigger is pulled in Virginia 28 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: as well. This is what the Democrats there did. So 29 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: now the people in Virginia are subject to the whims 30 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: of the California legislature. So Virginia automatically has the same 31 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: law we do regarding mandated electric car sales. The new governor, 32 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: Republican Glenn Yunkin, actually he's been in office for a 33 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: year now, said we've got to repeal this. The Democratic 34 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: Senate refuses to. Yeah, this was done when we'd had 35 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: the former Democratic governor, Ralph Northam. Wasn't he the one 36 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: with the KKK outfit or whatever, the black face guy. 37 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: The he was governor when this passed. So Republicans, along 38 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: with the Republican governor, are trying to undo these us. 39 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: So now the Virginia, the Virginia people are on the 40 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: road to forced electric car sales. Because of what was 41 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: decided by California legislators, whom none of the Virginia citizens 42 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: voted for. No that because they liked the idea we 43 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: like to copy California. At least the Democrats didn't. Virginia. Yeah, 44 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: it looks like they beat back an effort to strip 45 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: away those laws. Virginia Senate Democrats defeated several Republican efforts 46 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: to repeal the Clean Cars law. We're going to talk 47 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: about it now with the vice president of communications for 48 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: the Western States Petroleum Association, that's Kevin Slegel. Kevin, how 49 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 1: are you, Bill? Are you guys doing all right? We're good? 50 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: Is it even constitutional to force citizens to live under 51 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: the laws that started in another state with another state's representatives. Well, 52 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: each of these states, and it wasn't just Virginia, there's 53 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: sixteen other states. There's seventeen states in total that represent 54 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: about thirty five percent of the car sales in this 55 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: country that that follow California's laws automatically. So it's each 56 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: the legislatures and those states decided to follow California's regulators, 57 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: not even necessarily our legislators, the folks we vote for. 58 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: This is a regulatory policy that was put into place, 59 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: and those seventeen states follow along whether they like it 60 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: or not, or if the governor changes like you see 61 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: you know in Virginia this year. But I mean, is 62 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: that constitutional to tie well, the lives of Virginians to 63 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: whatever a California bureaucrat decides. Well, if I was in 64 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: Virginia or Nevada, or or Washington or any of these 65 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: states where this applies, it sure wouldn't feel that way. 66 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: But because each legislature voted to accept California's laws, it 67 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: is now. The problem is this might have been done 68 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: ten years ago, five years ago, well before some of 69 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: these tougher regulations at California is moving forward, these bands 70 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: and mandates have taken place. So so now if you're 71 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: in one of these states, you may have done something 72 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: you know nobody's paying attention ten years ago, But now 73 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: of a sudden, in three years, you're not gonna be 74 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: able to buy an ev'n You're not gonna be able 75 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: to buy the car you want. You're gonna have to 76 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: buy an ev And I think that's what a lot 77 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: of folks across the country are waking up to, and 78 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: even Californians aren't beginning to understand the bands here. I mean, 79 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: for example, in two years, you're not gonna be a 80 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: why or next year you're not gonna be able to 81 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: buy a power saw or a generator, things that helped 82 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: us get through these storms we had the last couple 83 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: of weeks, and most of we can't buy that. We 84 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: can't buy an electric generator because it's gas powers it 85 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,799 Speaker 1: does it's gas powered. In twenty twenty four, power saws, 86 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: power equipment like that, power generators will be banned by 87 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: by regulatory power of the California Air Resources Board and 88 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: Governor Newsom. But people need generators when the electricity goes out, Yes, 89 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: we do, and especially because if the electricity goes out 90 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: a lot when we have the storms like we had, 91 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: or sometimes over the summer when it gets a little 92 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: too warm and our grid can't take it. So these 93 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: are the things that happen that most folks don't have 94 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: time to pay attention to. But then all of a sudden, 95 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: there's a huge burden. And this is just the beginning, 96 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: and and I think that's one of the things we'll 97 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: start seeing this year as we get closer to twenty six. 98 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: And some of these twenty twenty four, where the power 99 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: tool equipment at bands take place. People are going to 100 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: start realizing what has been happening in Sacramento, what regulators, 101 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: the legislature and this governor have been doing to everyday citizens. 102 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: And it's it's not just costly, it's going to change 103 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: the way we live. Well, I don't explain something again. 104 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: How come these states that you mentioned have to follow 105 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: what California does on its emissions? Is it? Or yeah, 106 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: it's two things. Or it's either the electric vehicle policy 107 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: see or their low emission vehicle policy, so like hybrid 108 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: vehicles or whatever. They don't have to. They chose to, 109 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: and they chose to. You know, again, some of them 110 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: chose to do this five, six, seven years ago. Some 111 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: states came along a little bit later. But you know, 112 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: if you look, they generally have you know, one party 113 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: in control of the legislature at that time and the 114 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: governor that would sign that bill. And so as politics 115 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: change and people become aware of things, all of a sudden, 116 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: Virginia woke up and are committed to an EVY mandate 117 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: that was probably set back in place four or five 118 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: or six years ago when nobody was paying attention. Yeah, 119 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: that's that's the key to sneak these in when there's 120 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: no publicity surrounding him where it's not a hot issue 121 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: of the moment. What is going to happen, Like specifically 122 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: here in California, you know the wall that we're driving into. 123 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: We don't have an electrical grid to handle this, not 124 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: even close, and we're not going to get one anytime soon. 125 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: We don't have electric charging stations. How how are they 126 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: going to force dealers to sell cars that people either 127 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: don't want or can't use. Well, that's part of the problem. 128 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: There is no plan. But our best guests and what 129 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: economists are telling us is the way they're going to 130 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: force people in the EVS is to make internal combustion 131 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: engine cars even more expensive. How are they going to 132 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: do that? They could we could have vehicle miles travel 133 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: taxes on internal combustion engine cars that may not be 134 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: on EVS. We could have you know, the dealers may 135 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: be fined or you know, have penalties that they face 136 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: that forces them to raise the car the cost of 137 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: internal combustion engine so that more people will be driven 138 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: towards EVS. There's a lot of possibilities here and none 139 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: of them are good for consumers and there are no answers. 140 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: And you're right, not only do we have that huge 141 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: expensive problem, we have to you know, we need three 142 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: times electricity we have currently in California. We have to 143 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: build solar and renewable energy at five times the pace 144 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: that we have over the last ten years. We know 145 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: they're not going to do that because they still haven't. 146 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: They've been working on high speed rail for fifteen years, 147 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: so we know none that's going to happen. Then what 148 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: I mean, what is life going to be like when 149 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: you don't have electricity to ePower a car that you 150 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: were forced to buy. It's going to be a frustrating 151 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: life and one that's probably going to create a little 152 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: bit of political turmoil. Yeah, and I think that's what 153 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: we're again, we're going to see as we as we 154 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: start moving closer and closer to these fans and mandates, 155 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: people are understanding what this, you know, our current government 156 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: has done on the places they've put us in. So 157 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: it's either going to be extremely frustrating, costly, and you know, 158 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: sometimes dangerous, or they're going to have to back off 159 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: of all these standards and relook at what they've really done, 160 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: and hopefully what will happen. I mean, there is an 161 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: opportunity to sort of pause and say, Okay, look, these 162 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: were unrealistic goals. These were very political goals. They sounded good, 163 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: they were never attainable. So maybe we shouldn't put California 164 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: through this, and maybe let's step this back and slow 165 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: the pace of this energy evolution. But right, that's not 166 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: the way this legislature, that's not the way this governor 167 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: is behaving. They're moving faster forward, They're going too soon. 168 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: It's going to be too costly, and we're beginning again 169 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: to sort of feel what that's like. And you know, 170 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm going to buy an extra car 171 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: just to hold onto it too. I'll just I'll just 172 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: drive my current car for ten years and then uh 173 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: then go to the backup. Well that's my plan. I 174 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: think if there's many time where it's gonna be difficult 175 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: to find the vehicle that you need, so you know, 176 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: when the time is right and the cost is right, 177 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 1: get it now, and then then let's just hope that 178 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 1: the state government doesn't then make fuel so expensive to 179 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:33,599 Speaker 1: also try to be here. I just don't want I 180 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want to live like this, 181 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: and I don't I don't want these incredibly difficult days 182 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: of you know, no electricity being available and not being 183 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: able to travel what I want. I mean, nobody wants 184 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: that life, No, And I think that's what's really important here. 185 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes even our own industry does it. We 186 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: talk big numbers and economic impacts and jobs and those 187 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: things that are important, But what you're saying is really 188 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: what the issue is going to be. All of our 189 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: lives are going to be impacted in some way by 190 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: these regulations, some in very severe ways. I mean, if 191 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: you live in an urban setting and you live in 192 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: apartment complex, where you going to charge this car? How 193 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: is that going to work? If you live in a 194 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: rural or a part of the state, there's some there 195 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: are some counties in the state with one or two 196 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: fast chargers. Otherwise it's what you might have at home 197 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: or what you can find. It takes a long time 198 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: charge of cars. So yeah, a lot of a lot 199 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: of the public chargers are slow chargers that take hours. Yes, 200 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, you might plug in for thirty minutes 201 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: and get you know, another fifteen, twenty or thirty miles 202 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: depending on type of charger you're at. So, so this 203 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: is what we're facing, and you know, I think this 204 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: is what's important is that are the way we live 205 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: is going to be changed and less, you know, California 206 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: sort of speak up and say, look, hold on, we 207 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: don't want to live this way. There's a better way 208 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: of doing it. Which there are better ways of doing it, 209 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: but we're not on that path. Our governor does not 210 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: have us on that path. All right, Kevin, thank you 211 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: very much for coming on today. Yeah, you bet, all right. 212 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: Kevin Slagel's vice president Communications, Western States Patrolling Them Association, 213 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: talking about what's going on in Virginia, which may sound weird, 214 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: but Virginia, well, they decided under the previous Democrat governor 215 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: to follow California by forcing people not to buy gas 216 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: powered new cars and to buy electric vehicles in the future. 217 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: And it looks like the Senate Republicans, because the governor 218 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: is now a Republican, tried to overturn that and failed 219 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: in their first effort. More coming up, John and ken Kfi. 220 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: Oh the keyword, right, Johnny KENKF. I am six forty 221 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: Live Everywhere the iHeart Radio app. All right, of course, 222 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: a big story this morning nationally was that New Mexico 223 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: prosecutors did finally announce that they are charging several people 224 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: in the case of the shooting death of a cinematographer 225 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: named Helena Hutchins on the set of a movie called 226 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 1: Rust in New Mexico. This actually occurred in October of 227 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, so if it seems like an old story, 228 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: it is kind of an old story, and Alec Baldwin 229 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: is one of those being charged. Of course, Baldwin was 230 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 1: handed a gun. They were rehearsing a scene. This woman 231 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: was kind of standing behind or next to the camera, 232 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: Helena Hutchins, a cinematographer, and he fired the gun and 233 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: she was hit and she died. Also another person on 234 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: the set was injured. In the case, they are also 235 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: charging the weapons handler on the set, Hannah Gautiera's read 236 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: with involuntary manslaughter. The charges are punishable by up to 237 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: eighteen months in jail five thousand dollars fine, but the 238 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: jury could consider an additional firearm enhancement to the charges, 239 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: which could make it a five year sentence if they 240 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: go for that. Yeah. The third person involved in this 241 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: was the assistant director David Halls, who reached a plea deal. 242 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: He accepted a misdemeanor charge of negligent use of a 243 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:55,359 Speaker 1: deadly weapon, so he was not involved in today's announcement 244 00:12:55,400 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: by the New Mexico DA in this district, Mary Carmack 245 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: altwis he's the one. He's the one who took the 246 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: gun from Reid readloaded the gun. Hall's carried the gun 247 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: and gave it to Baldwin who then fired the gun 248 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: and killed Elena Hutchins Dan. I believe. I think Baldwin 249 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 1: did ask if the gun was hot or something like 250 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: that and was told no. He yeah, because well, Hall's 251 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: job is to say cold gun, cold gun, that's what 252 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 1: that's what you say. I heard um a guy in 253 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: this business, in the movie business, in an interview who 254 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: said that it is impossible for a gun like this 255 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: to go off by itself. What he said is, you 256 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: have to take two actions. You have to cock the gun. 257 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: You have to pull the lever back and cock it 258 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: and then press the trigger. And without taking those two actions, 259 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 1: it's impossible for the gun to go off. Now, the 260 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: gun could have been cocked when it was handed to him, 261 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: but he still had to press the trigger, and Baldwin, 262 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: who's kind of a dope, went on with George Stephanopolis 263 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: some months ago and claimed he didn't pull the trigger. 264 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: It's simply not possible according to people who work in 265 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: this business, and according to the FBI, it's impossible for 266 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: it to go off by himself. The DA did an 267 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: interview on CNN after announcing these charges. She said, yes, 268 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: Baldwin did pull the trigger, and they ran a fast 269 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: and loose set plagued with safety issues. There was such 270 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: a lack of safety and safety standards on that set. 271 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: There were live rounds on set. They were mixed in 272 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: with dummy rounds. Nobody was checking those, or at least 273 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: they weren't checking them consistently. They somehow got loaded into 274 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: a gun handed off to Alec Baldwin. He didn't check it, 275 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: he didn't do it he supposed to do to make 276 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: sure it was safe or make sure anyone else was safe. 277 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: And he pointed the gun at Elina Hutchins and he 278 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: pulled the trigger. So I probably thought it was empty 279 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: and just thought that'd be funny to do at me. 280 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: There was no reason for him to pull the trigger 281 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: because they were in the script didn't require the trigger 282 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: be pulled, and it's probably just his way of being 283 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: funny because it was a real It was like an 284 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: old gun, right, some kind of a yeah, because they 285 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: were doing a western yeah something something that looked at 286 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds. If he thinks he's gonna lie his way 287 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: out of this with a jury, that's not going to happen. 288 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: His only hope is they find him to be such 289 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: a charming yeah, because he's charming, ye, right, I mean 290 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: that's it that the facts of the case. He's kind 291 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: of a powder keg. He's not exactly charming. I don't 292 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: think people find him charming. I mean he can be, 293 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: but you know what, he's hosting something like the match Game. 294 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: But you know he's had didn't you have like a 295 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: talk show briefly on one of the cable networks that, Yeah, 296 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: he's had a couple of them. I think he's a 297 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: fired up wokester with all sorts of opinions. So yeah, 298 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: maybe he'll find a juror though that well, he's big, 299 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: he's big on woke left wing politics. So you get 300 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: a couple of those people on the jury, or you know, 301 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: maybe a couple of women who are smitten by his 302 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: celebrity and good looks. Yes, she said that, well, this 303 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: may have been an accident. That doesn't let you off 304 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: the hook, and it happened because of a lot of negligence. 305 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: And of course, as Hannah Goodierra was read, we've talked 306 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: about back when this was a story. She was new 307 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: to this business. I guess her father was in this 308 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: business too. Yeah, he was one of the best in 309 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: the business. But this was only her second movie, called 310 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: The Armorer for the Armor. Yeah, so she screwed up. 311 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: Remember the reports that people were just shooting the guns 312 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: off during breaks in the movie filming, just kind of 313 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: having fun with them, and guns had accidentally just discharged twice, 314 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: and there was there was a revolt by some of 315 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: the crew members that walked off the set. They didn't 316 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: think it was safe, right, Yeah, And he's the producer, 317 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: so ultimately he's responsible for all that. And he got 318 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: so many warnings from the crew that this is an 319 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: unsafe set and still ignored it and ended up shooting 320 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: Elena Hutchins to death. So he's he's got an impossible case. 321 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: He's that's going to have to rely on his celebrity 322 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: to get him out of this and he is. His 323 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: defense is going to be that it was the armorer 324 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: that was supposed to make everything safe, not me. Because 325 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: I was I was listening to Cable News today and 326 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: Brian Claypool and Mark Garrigos, both we've had on the 327 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: show many times, both said that based on the facts 328 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: of the case, Baldwin's out of luck. Oh yeah, yeah, 329 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: I think he'll reach a plea deal there or something. 330 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: That's what Claypool said, is like to go for a 331 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: plea deal, which is what David Halls did and he 332 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: got a six month suspended sentence. Yeah, so that's but 333 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: if he's going to fight a tooth and nail and 334 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: continue to lie that he didn't pull the trigger and 335 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: get the jury worked up, he could get the five 336 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: years instead of just the eighteen months. So I don't 337 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: know if that's really a good idea. By the way, 338 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: they're hoping to resume filming. Oh you want to hear 339 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: something weird? They made They made a civil settlement with 340 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: the Hutchins family, did yes, and Hutchins's husband has been 341 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: given a piece of the action on the movie. He's 342 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: officially listed as an executive producer now and is going 343 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: to participate in the profits or the or the revenue 344 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: that comes in. Yeah, well so huh only how yeah, really, 345 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: it's an interesting way of procuring her memory. I know, 346 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:19,959 Speaker 1: we killed your wife, but you want a percentage here 347 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: to all right, we got more coming up next. We're 348 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: gonna be talking to the union for lap D officers, 349 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: the LA Police Protectively about this tragedy that occurred recently 350 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: when LAPD officers were responding to a minor traffic collision 351 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: and there was a man acting really erratically and he 352 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: could not be controlled, and so finally they tasted him 353 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: and he died later at the hospital. Well, it turns 354 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: out he's the cousin of the co founder of Black 355 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: Lives Matter, and that has raised this bar significantly. And 356 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: we'll talk about all this coming up. Johnny Ken CAF 357 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: I Am six forty live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. We're 358 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 1: on from one till four. You can listen the podcast 359 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: right after four o'clock at the iHeartRadio app or the 360 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: CAFI website. The number is four. That's how many people 361 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: guessed the breaking news this hour. David Crosby. Crosby Stills, 362 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: Nash and Young has died at the age of eighty 363 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: one four is the number of people that correctly predicted 364 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: that in Googlepool twenty twenty three. I remember talking on 365 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: the radio back in nineteen ninety four about the liver 366 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 1: transplant that he was going to get because he had 367 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: had a life of self abuse. I guess you could 368 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: call it heroin cocaine paid I did, always paid for 369 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: by Phil Collins. I didn't remember that. Well you can. 370 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 1: You can go to a liver store and pick one out, 371 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: Phil Collins. You know I had good credit, NA bought 372 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: one for Crosby and got a doctor to put it in. Anyway, Phil, 373 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: would you go down and buy me a liver? So sadly, 374 00:19:55,080 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 1: the baby Boomeer entertainers, one by one seemed be fading 375 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: away again. Stephen Crosby eighty one has died. Let's turn 376 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: our attention to one of the stories we've talked about 377 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: several times this week, and that was the death of 378 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: a man who happened to be the cousin of the 379 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: co founder of Black Lives Matter. LAPD was called to 380 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: the scene of a traffic accident was considered a minor one, 381 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: I guess, and one of the people involved, well, it 382 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: was acting bizarrely erratically, I guess is the word, and 383 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: he did not seem to be complying, so eventually a 384 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: taser was used. His name's Keenan Anderson. It was actually 385 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: the third person who was shot by LAPD in just 386 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 1: the last few weeks. And so this is riled up 387 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: the usual and he wasn't shot, he was tased. Well, 388 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: he was tased, right, but they use the word shot 389 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: that gone, that shot by a taser. Yeah, right, But anyway, 390 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: all three died and so the usual suspects are yelping 391 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: and screaming in order to raise well, there were three 392 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: people who got tased that died. No, no, no, no, 393 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: two other shootings of car shoot actual shooting, shooting. Yeah, 394 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: I got confused by the way you were just no, no, 395 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: it's two shootings and a taser. All three dead at 396 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,479 Speaker 1: the hands of the lap D. But now there's all 397 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: this discussion about if it's a traffic accident, why can't 398 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: we send mental health people there rather than armed police 399 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: officers and you know the whole thing. But let's get 400 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: Jamie McBride on with the Los Angeles Police Protective League. Jamie, 401 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: how are you John kenn how are you doing thanks 402 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: for having me again. Oh sure, you guys wanted to 403 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: respond to all this. Well, there's this idea that mental 404 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: health units should be called to deal with these incidents. Well, 405 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: first of all, I just want to start off by 406 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 1: saying any loss of life is tragic. But now let's 407 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: talk about this incident here with this, Uh, mister Anderson, 408 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: if you will, you know, there's mark. You know, City 409 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: council member Marquis Harris Dawson and Black Lives Matter did 410 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: a press conference and quite frankly, a lot of stuff 411 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: they had going on in this press conference for false 412 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: narratives and actually some of the stuff they said was 413 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: actually just reckless. They want, you know, Marquise Harris Dawson, 414 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: he wants unarmed people to do traffic stops, and then 415 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: he doesn't want armed police officers going to traffic collisions, 416 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: like minor traffic collisions. Now, in my thirty two years 417 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: experience with LAPD, I can tell you there's been time 418 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: and time again where there's been a subsdect involved in 419 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: a violent crime like a murderer robbery, and as they're 420 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: driving fast a fleet from that location, they go through 421 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: red lights, they go through stop signs, and some of 422 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: them get involved in accidents. Now, to imagine, you know, 423 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: law enforcement unaware of that violent crime that occurred, and 424 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: you've got an unarmed person now who's tasked with doing 425 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: these traffic stops and traffic enforcement walking up on a 426 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: car of somebody who just committed a murder and robbery. 427 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: How do you think that's gonna end for that individual 428 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: walking up with that's unarmed, not very well? And then 429 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: the same thing applies for the traffic accidents. I mean, 430 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: I know, people, there's two hundred and ten plus officers 431 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: on our wall downstairs and been killed in the line 432 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: of duty. And some of those officers that were killed 433 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: line of duty were on traffic stops and also you know, 434 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: involved in the just walking up on the car and 435 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: they get shot and it's seriously injured killed. So I 436 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: think I think that's some reckless statements that you know, 437 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: Harris Dawson was saying that BLM was saying, but we 438 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: got to remember a couple of things that happened at 439 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: this incident. Here they're blaming the officer, Well, the officer 440 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: wasn't the one that was high on cocaine. The officer 441 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: wasn't the one that got into a car accident and 442 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: tried to flee on foot. The officer wasn't the one 443 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: that tried to carjack an innocent bystanders car. That was 444 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: mister Anderson. You know, everything the officers did was a 445 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: reaction to his actions. In fact, the motor officer did 446 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 1: a great job. He tried to de escalate the situation 447 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,959 Speaker 1: for over ten minutes that the suspect wouldn't comply with anything. 448 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: So at one point, you know, he he's wrestling with 449 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: the afscers. They had to use a taser, and the 450 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: taser was deployed exactly how it's supposed to be deployed. Now, 451 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: these same individuals who the small group of individuals like 452 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: the Harris Saucin and the Black Lives Matter, you know, 453 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: the small group the things alludest drum if you will. 454 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: They always say the same thing. Let's say there's an 455 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 1: officer involved shooting. What's the first thing they say, why 456 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: didn't they use a taser? Like then they use a 457 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: beam bag, like then they use pepper spray. Well, then 458 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: when we do use a taser. And by the way, 459 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: that individual diet four hours later, it didn't happen right 460 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: then and there. Now they complain that, oh, we don't 461 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: want tasers being used. I mean, it's just it's something 462 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: has to change. Just hit him with a pillow. What 463 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: do you do? Have a mental evaluation unit? What are 464 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: they supposed to do? What do they respond to? Okay, 465 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: so we have the m EU, which is called Mental 466 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: Evaluation Unit, and that's like a division, if you will. 467 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: And then out of there you have the smart cars 468 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: and those are the aufscers that respond with the civilian 469 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: personnel who are trained to deal with people's mental illnesses. Now, 470 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: you got to remember, the city council just last year 471 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: voted for this program to have these smart units respond 472 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: to these incidents, and one of those individuals was Councilmember 473 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: Marquis Harris Dawson. Unfortunately, they don't realize or don't know 474 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: what they voted for because in that program it says 475 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: they are not first responders, they are second responders. So 476 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: the primary responders still the officer in the black and white. 477 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: They have to render the situation safe before these smart 478 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: teams can come onto the the call. So in all 479 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 1: three incidents that happened mister Anderson and the other incidents, 480 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: they none of those incidents were rendered safe. Now. Just 481 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: the other day we had six smart teams for the 482 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: whole entire city of Los Angeles. And this goes from 483 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: Sampedro and Harbor area all the way to the furthest 484 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: north west area, which is the border of Simi Valley 485 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: for our city. Now, everybody knows how big Los Angeles is. 486 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: And now you have six units for the entire city. 487 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: Now you can call one of these smart units. But 488 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: anybody that lives and works in Los Angeles knows that 489 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: you can be ten miles away and that's gonna take 490 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: over an hour on these freeways. Nothing happens fast in 491 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: Los Angeles when the freeways are involved. So all these 492 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: false narratives and finger pointing, the bottom line is who 493 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: do you point the finger at. You point the finger 494 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: at the mister Anderson's family. Where were they when he 495 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: was out there using cocaine? Where was he when he 496 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: needed help for drug abuse? Where are they? They're nowhere? 497 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: Now that there might be an l a lottery involved 498 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: where they can win some money for a lawsuit or 499 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: a settlement, they come out of the woodworks, and do 500 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm getting disgusted with it. And this 501 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: whole council member Marquis Harris Dawson. I think he deserves 502 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: the officer involved deserves an apology from him, and I 503 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: want him to write accommodation for that officer on how 504 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: he performed during his duties during that call. And the 505 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: family and Harris Dawson and Black Lives Matter is asking 506 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: for a full release of that body camera and we 507 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: welcome it because the only reason why it was edited 508 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: down by seven minutes is because seven of those minutes 509 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: are from when that tenants the officer is trying to 510 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: talk him down. So but you know what, we're all 511 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: for it. We least the footage. The officers did everything right. 512 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: If Keenan Anderson was using drugs, could that have contributed 513 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: to problems with being tased? Yes, you know, when you 514 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: use drugs, something like met that phetamine, something like a cocaine, 515 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: these aren't rational people and they don't respond like a 516 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: rational person would respond when you're tased. I'm pretty confident 517 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: when the coroner's results come back, it's not going to 518 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: be any any alarm or any surprise that he's probably 519 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 1: gonna have very very high levels of cocaine on him, 520 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: because just watching the video from my thirty two years experience. 521 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: That guy was whacked out on his mind. And you know, 522 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: no matter how much we talked to that guy, no 523 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: matter what we did, he was on his own program 524 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: that day. But police officers, knowing that he probably was 525 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: on some sort of drugs, maybe avoided the taser just 526 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: because they could complicate things. Well, you know what, sometimes 527 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,479 Speaker 1: tasers do work. You know, that's the one thing when 528 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: you're on drugs, you just don't know what's going to work. 529 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,959 Speaker 1: I've seen some officers use a beanbag I didn't work, 530 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: but a taser did, and I saw it. Just the 531 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: opposite happened on people with drugs. Every individual is us 532 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 1: on drugs acts a little bit different than the one 533 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: before and the one after. So it's just, you know, 534 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: you just don't know. All right, Jamie, we gotta go, 535 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: but we appreciate you coming on and given the point 536 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: of view from LAPD's union, thank you, Thank you so 537 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: much for having me on again, and thanks for your support, 538 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: Jamie McBride. Los Angeles Police Protective League their response to 539 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: what happened recently when LAPD came upon a traffic collision 540 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: and a man by the name of Kenyan Anderson, who 541 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: apparently was on drugs, acted erratically and they ended up 542 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: using a taser and he died hours later in the hospital. 543 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: But because he's the cousin of the co founder of 544 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter, it's become a much bigger story. Obviously, 545 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: it's for fundraising. Johnny ken k IF I AM six 546 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: forty live everywhere the iHeart Radio. All right, you can 547 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: pick up the show if you miss it live. We're 548 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: on from one to four now. The podcast will be 549 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: posted shortly after we finished at four and listen anytime 550 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: you want the iHeartRadio app or KFIAM six forty dot com. 551 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: Mail in ballots will be talking about after three o'clock. 552 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: California really loves them. We've gone all mail in voting. 553 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: If you want, you can still show up in person. 554 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: As you know, we're gonna be talking about it after 555 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: three o'clock with PILF. I ever heard of PILF. John PILF, 556 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: no Public Interest Legal Foundation. They've released a report. The 557 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: headlines are that there are a massive number of ballots 558 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: that were never accounted for, that were mailed out, and 559 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,719 Speaker 1: there were over two hundred and twenty six thousand ballots 560 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: rejected by election officials. During the twenty twenty two primary 561 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: and general elections. So we'll get into this. Ten point 562 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: eight million mail in ballots are unaccounted for in the 563 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two elections that would be both the primary election. 564 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: It's the people who threw them out. People threw them out, 565 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: or there's somebody that's dead or not registered anymore and 566 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: they ended up at the wrong home and those people 567 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: threw it out. Or there's a bunch of reasons. But 568 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: PILF will no more. We talk about Jay Christian Adams 569 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: with PILF the President after the news at three o'clock. 570 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: Another update has come along concerning the horrible, horrible murder 571 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: of Deputy Darnell Calhoun out in Riverside County. He was 572 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: shot to death a week ago, almost last Friday, when 573 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: he was going on a domestic violence call in an 574 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: unincorporated area of Lake Elson or called Lakeland Village, and 575 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: when he got there, it wasn't long before he was shot. 576 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: Jesse Navarro was the man that they believe shot him 577 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: and shot him right from inside the house. He killed 578 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: Deputy Calhoun. Police officers eventually shot Navarro, who is still 579 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: in critical condition. So we've been hearing Steve Gregory report 580 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: has not a fishly been charged in the murder of 581 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: Deputy Calhoun. But a new development we have is it 582 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: apparently his wife was seeking protection against him. He's described 583 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: in court documents as a violent methodic who was once 584 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: ordered to turn in his gun. Does any of this 585 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: surprise you now that he's murdered a police officer, Well, 586 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: because that's that there's there's a connection. Who do we 587 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: have on yesterday? Oh, it's Chad Biancore. He said almost 588 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the time that when you have 589 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: somebody behaving erratically and getting violent, almost one hundred percent 590 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: of the time it's drugs or alcohol. That's why they're 591 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: acting that way. You know, there are there are bad 592 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: guys all the time, but they're rational bad guys. There's 593 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: a difference. Yes, you know a guy who calmly goes 594 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: into a bank and points a gun, says give me 595 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: all the money, and then he leaves. And then there's 596 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: a guy like Navarro who for no reason at all, 597 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: starts blasting away and kills a cop who was investigating 598 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: the fight he was having him with his wife. Yeah, 599 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: because it was a child custody issue. That's a really 600 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: wild way to react. The cop doesn't even come to 601 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: the door, and you shoot him dead. She requested a 602 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: temporary restraining order. It's a while ago. Two thousand and 603 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: four listed four children living at their home in Wildemar 604 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: a five year old, a four year old, seventeen month 605 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: old and a four month old. Wow, that's a couple 606 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: of kids close together. Seventeen months and four months. That's 607 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: nineteen years ago. Then she looked for another restraining order 608 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. Yes, here's what she wrote. He 609 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: has an addiction to meth and gets verbally abusive, loud, aggressive, 610 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: and intimidating. She sent back at oh four, he would 611 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: pull my hair and wrestle me in bed. He told 612 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: me I will pay for it. Trying to get a 613 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: restraining order, and also claimed he did point a gun 614 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: at her, threatened to do something to the family, and 615 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: they were still together seventeen years later. Or maybe he 616 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: was just visiting. I have a feeling I don't know. 617 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: We don't know was his residence or what. In twenty 618 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: twenty one, she wrote that he got upset when she 619 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't let him drive the kids to school when he 620 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: was high or hadn't slept in days. He got upset, 621 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: took my wedding ring off and smashed it with a tool, 622 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: and then the judge denied her request for a temporary 623 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: restraining order, citing a lack of proof what the smashed 624 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: ring wasn't good enough for a good judge. Neither a 625 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: husband nor wife showed up for a hearing on a 626 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: permanent restraining order, you know, And this is this is 627 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: why you feel bad for the cops. They have to 628 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,719 Speaker 1: show up at these events because somebody calls nine one one, right, 629 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: this is what happened, can happen to him? The people 630 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: from the Black Lives Matter scam. It pisses me off. 631 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: Complaining that Keenan Anderson got tazed. Keenan Anderson was on drugs, 632 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: maybe maybe something in addition to the cocaine. Since he 633 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: was acting erratically, I suspect meth. Usually when when you're 634 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: you're acting erratically and crazy, and um, he was speaking 635 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: gibberish in Apparently those are symptoms of meth. But we 636 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: don't have the narcotics report back yet to confirm that. 637 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: But here's the choices. You tackle the guy, you taze 638 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: the guy, or you shoot the guy. You got to 639 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: do something because look what can they can do When 640 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: they're armed and they're on the loose, they'll murder you. 641 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: This cop was murdered